Alicesoft/Rance General

If anyone still wants to vote in the poll just ask me for the link.

Already got 46 votes so I think most people have voted.

>>164279272
>Miracle is from Zeth.

Oh yeah I forgot. Then make that Hubert I guess.

>>164279453
Rolex is the strongest living person from Helman.

Though Patton is stronger than Hubert as well

>>164279480
That works then.

>>164279384
I'm waiting until I've actually finished to vote, but I still have it in a tab, personally.

>>164279384
Can I get that link? I just finished.

What does Serious Mode in VI?

>>164279384
I haven't voted because it's manual text entry and I cannot be fucked with that.

>>164280018
Eats all your SP in exchange for a buff.

That feel when chugging along, making good progress against a fight, just about to win, and suddenly.

Time Up!

I didn't even know I was on a clock. fml

>>164280512
I'm not sure if the "Time Up!" battle ends are actually timers or if they occur just before you'd win so that the people you're fighting can get away in the follow cutscene.

>>164279384
How long are you keeping it open? I'm still partway through 6.

Are the poison items in 6 ever worth using?

In Rance VI how do I turn off the lightning fast text skipping? I'm not even sure how I turned it on and CTRL or A do nothing to stop it.

>>164280728
You might use 'em on Rocky since he hits his cap really fast and it's a little while before it gets raised. They do raise stats but unless you like grinding you should probably only use it on people who hit their cap.

>>164280770
You probably pressed S which enabled text skipping.

>>164280591
It's time, you can beat most of those fights and one post-game "boss" has that as a mechanic as well, which makes it fucking retarded
>Random tiny chance to appear in a random encounter
>You need to kill it in a few turns or the battle ends

Just fuck that shit.

>>164279384
I haven't yet since I didn't finish VI yet

>>164280728
Yea since most characters have level caps. Use the + attack ones on Maria since she deals most of your damage in fights where it matters.

+ magic is for Shizuka since she's the only mage with instant aoe
+ health is for Caloria since it also buffs her regen and she's important to keep alive in most boss fights, if you have enough you can effectively make her immortal
+ defense/resist/eva are either for Rance or Caloria.

Don't give poison items to Rance though, give the poison ones to Caloria.

>>164279384
Still slowly chugging along VI, haven't voted yet.

Just got Shizuka, so it's probably going to take a while.

>>164280512
>tfw tried to chase Magic up the tower after blowing on her face, beat the two guardian things easily, but the game still acted like I ran away
;_;

>>164280841
Fuck, I use WASD to move around, guess I need to stop that. Thanks for the fast answer.

>>164281040
WASD is probably the best way to move around anyway since you can use Q and E to sidestep. If you use the arrows then I don't think you get a good sidestep shortcut

>>164280671
For a few weeks if people want to vote

>>164279895
Start of the last thread

>>164280034
You can vote for less than ten characters if you want.

Your number one ranked vote will still get 10

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Tell me your story

>>164282984
I miss Quest, but don't want to restart after losing my save.

>>164282984
Some people in that room were fucking.

>>164282984
No more SP Bullshit in Quest?

>>164283209
Limited moves are worse than SP

>>164283229
Don't forget the limited amount of character swapping as well

>>164283209
Quest works like Wizardry in that you have limited uses of attacks and character swapping in until you rest. So not really.

>>164283229
I actually like it this way. In VI you had so many dmg skill to use and only one or two useful ones.
In Quest there is a reason to use all of them.

Does Urza have any more events / sex after she joins at end of the game?

She's at 3 FR. I'm not sure if I want to use like 20 presents to boost a pointless character

>>164283518
>pointless character
I'll fight you mate

>>164283513
Except you either need ridiculous grind to have everyone have relevant weapons/levels or everyone has 1-2 attacks and then stat boosting passives.

>>164283427
That's not how Wizardry worked

>>164283709
The spells did, and character swapping is more or less summoning magic.

>>164283513
>there is a reason to use all of them.
You'll never get because you pick and choose which you get in limited amounts or you don't and they are weak as shit because you didn't grab stat boosting skills.

>>164283741
The spells used 1 of 6 mana-pools, and how much they used of it was dependant on the spell itself and the level you cast it in.
You don't have N uses of the spell and you can rest anywhere to regen mana, so how is that like Quest?

>>164283647
I just want to know if she's going to keep being a prude bitch, at least she puts out as a cripple

>>164283749
You can swap the skills inside the dungeon though.

>>164283923
You only get a limited amount of skill points anon.

>>164283886
You have N uses of any give level of spells and you can't use anymore until you rest. It's not 1 to 1 but how isn't that similar?

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I like how Rance despite his own dislike of men, is perfectly able to point out the hypocrisy of the non-mages discrimination against mages.

>>164282984
I'll probably replay Quest soon

Still haven't beaten world 3

>>164279895
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdteXi3YSqolYkuaibY5pVY8AOrMrGXE8c6lfLKrwmYn9zgEA/formResponse

>>164283953
Some characters have a lot of active skills, you won't equip them all at once.

>>164284018
>Dislike = discrimination
He can't fuck men so they just get in the way, how is that discrimination?

>>164284018
Rance never says he likes men though, how is that relevant?

>>164284073
It's not, that's why I didn't use discrimination against men.

>>164283984
You can either fire a high level nuclear blast draining your whole fire-pool, or you could cast multiple low-level nuclear blasts.
Also, draining your fire-pool with nuclear blast spell(s) will prevent you from using any other fire spell.

Using a skill in Quest won't cost you the uses of other skills.

>>164283209
There is something alike to it, limited moves. Both have their up and downs. With SP you fight limited amount of battles but can use the best moves of every character. With limited moves you can generally have characters stay for longer on your party, but while needing to only use weak moves every battle.

By the end you can use characters for long in Quest because at higher levels you can have many uses of many skills.

I really wish Quest had a small group of 12~15 people that always get full EXP from the active team battle like in 6. Farming extra battle team members is a big hassle in Quest.

>>164284210
I said it's like Wizardry; not it is Wizardry man. I know about the limited mana pools, and variety of the spells you can cast. Characters in Quest functionally though, and they all have limited uses per attacks. Yeah, you're right there's no degree of use, overlap of use and the resting mechanics are different but they're definitely similar.

>>164284412
>I really wish Quest had a small group of 12~15 people that always get full EXP from the active team battle like in 6.
If Quest had something like that then it'd probably be held in much higher regard than it is now

Do Rance able to stick it inside Bloody Angel?

I just met her

>>164284560
Not probably; definitely. It'd cut the grind in half. That's pretty fucking huge.

Do Maria and Sel get a S level weapon?

>>164284412
*Levelling extra battle team members is a big hassle in Quest.

>>164284642
Sel does; Maria is A only.

So basically

Maria, Uzra, Magic, Rizna, Caloria and Sel confirmed for not fated girls

>>164284560
It would. It is my main issue with it.

Would actually make Aten useable as well

>>164284412
>>164284560
>>164284603

It does though, in Magnum inactive partymembers get some exp as well, just not full. The main issue you'll run into is all the characters with a sub 35 level cap (most of them) which you need to feed forbidden talents to get higher level, which you then need to grind for.

Money and equipment is probably the bigger hurdle in Quest, since every threshold you need new equipment for all characters at that point if you want them to be relevant, and loot is so fucking random or costs a small fortune in gold, not even using Copa everywhere helps much.

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>>164284412
>I really wish Quest had a small group~
What they needed to do was let the player choose a core set of characters to put in the top box (maybe 15~20) and all of the characters get shared exp like in VI and allow the amount of characters to be able to be placed in there increase with each World difficulty you go up.

>>164284727
>Aten
No Sorceress without Fast Casting is good to use

>>164284743
A big Tomato fan I take it

>>164284771
PS:
Except Torako

>>164284729
Yes on magnum / later patches, that was added, but it's way too little. It's useful for getting most to level 35 for scenes, but the level gap between then and you main party will be too little for them to be useful as members you can switch and use in battle.

>>164284678
Makes sense since she's already so strong.

Anything special I need to do to complete Sel's character? She's the only one I still need to complete.

>>164284810
She has useful unique skills

>>164284810
Tomato needs a lot of levels to be good and you'll bring her everywhere for her unique skill.

>>164284827
Torako is great

>>164284846
Do you visit all the churches with Sel yet? That's the only special thing I remember for her.

>>164284810
Tomato has great skills about treasure hunt

>>164284810
Her skills in Quest are great for item farming. I didn't really get to use my favorites as much as I wanted due to the grind, I mean look Magic is at a higher level than Lia and Maris.

>>164284924
Do you even have Maris?

Can you get Rockys skill upgrade outside of the prologue? It's not popping up.

>>164284958
>It's useful for getting most to level 35 for scenes
She's at level 35, you simply just get her too late in Quest.

how important is plot?
I want to hop on the bandwagon with everyone and jump straight into the newest rance
Is this ok or no?

>>164284995
Poor Patty

>>164284995
>Miru
>14

>>164285024
VI doesn't really need the games before it.

>>164285009
I just couldn't see her in your image

Why rance hate loli

>>164284729
>inactive partymembers get some exp as well, just not full.
It's so small that they might as well not have bothered

>>164284889
Just visited Italia, Disposal Dungeon, Haniwa Plain and Autumn Forest.

Was there a church I missed in another map?

>>164285024
The Rance Series features an on going plot with lots of recurring Characters

Each Game does have a self-contained Story tough and the consensus is that starting with Sengoku and then go back for the older games if you are interested is fine

For those wondering why VI is getting much less attention than Sengoku, here's a few propositions:

1) VI is only playable if you've played the Rance games before it, Sengoku has no such requirements.
2) Sengoku is popular because it's popular, on more than one occasion I've seen "recommend me some h-games" met with "Sengoku Rance, Kamidori, and Daibanchou". Virtually everyone who is into h-games had played Sengoku.
3) Sengoku gets praised for just about every part of it, particularly if you add the qualifier "for a h-games". VI does not get that praise even from this thread, it's more generally seen as awesome in some areas but poor in others.

>>164285443
>For those wondering why VI is getting much less attention than Sengoku, here's a few propositions:
I'd put it under "it's not as good a game" but the fact that it just came out while everyone and their mum knows Sengoku doesn't help.

>>164285276
I'm pretty sure the last one you're looking for is in 3rd test site.

>>164285024
it's not entirely necessary as there's often callbacks to previous moments and most are capable of functioning as a independent story, but you'll enjoy it and the characters far more if you know them from previous games.

>>164285046
Yea that's her scene in Quest

>>164285443
>1) VI is only playable if you've played the Rance games before it, Sengoku has no such requirements.
Neither does VI

The real reason is that there isn't an easily available torrent.

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>>164281932
>I found 01 to be really fun and a great remake
I personally hated the whole chip shit mechanic. Would have liked it more with the standard gameplay from 02.

Rance 03 skill system is decent though, I like how it shows a lot of people on screen thanks to it.

>>164285443
1) wrong
2) Those 3 got recommended since they were translated titles focusing on gameplay. There was less competition back then when you were looking for that.
3) There were people who preferred VI oder Sengoku though.

>>164285443
VI was made to be a modern introduction for Rance. It's pretty standalone.

>>164285629
You should get rid of Sill. Sel is the only healing skill you actually need. Shizuka is far more useful.

>>164285540
Yeah, you're right. It's hidden behind a green door that I probably only visited once so I couldn't recall it.

Thanks anon.

>>164285629
All 03 needed was the ability to swap characters/skills mid combat.

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>>164284995

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I just maxed FR on Urza to see if she will have sex, but nope. No events, nothing.

wtf I hate her now...

>>164285813
you will get them

>>164285779
With limited use of course,

>>164285629
>TFW finished 03 without learning what the items did
>Never used any of those slot windows
All that grinding to beat Noche, and I thought it was like this to be reminiscent of III

How come you can't have sex with the men to raise their level limits?

>>164285813
Since when were sex scenes tied to FR?

FR is just for battle bonuses. Sex scenes are tied to events and story progression, sometimes items.

>>164285854
that is what you get for machine translating

>>164285984
I machine translated your mom last night!

>>164285984
I didn't even do that, all incomprehensible gook.

Do you actually get something for doing all the hanny houses 10 times, or is that just bullshit? Not sure if I should bother to grind enough keys to try it.

>>164286024
What is the point then?

>>164286062
Keys are cheap as fuck to buy

>>164285930
You need 15 FR with Kanami to be able to H her for level-ups, though that's technically not a scene.

>>164286107
Yeah, I guess now it does occur to me it might be faster to buy them rather than use sand lances if I need them in such bulk...

Did i fuck up on doing the colmic quest first or can i do the other quest later on?

>>164286072
Scenes themselves managed to convey a lot of the information and I already played III translated.

Gameplay was also fun, didn't really have much difficulty even with just the 4 slots until Noche basically stonewalled me for a bit.

And the music was pretty fucking great.

>>164285551
It should be younger though. Seeing how she first got fucked by Rance in II/02.

>>164286161
There are supposed to be other quests? Just got to this point myself and only see Target: Colmic

>>164286245
No, it should be older since she physically wasn't her age

>>164286062
the Haniwa plains are actually not that bad of a place to grind once you get access to the Haniwa village

You get easy battles and if you do the underground you can collect 6k Gold each time as well

>>164286245
Physical Age

And yeah Mill is an exception but 14 is the youngest she was when Rance decided to have sex with her knowing she is 14 so I added it.

>>164286245
That bit is fairly nebulous since she was clearly older when they fucked, even if magically made to be so.

And it wasn't just her appearance, her personality as well.

As such the youngest he fucked her she was 14 I guess.

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Anyone got cute pictures of Yuzuhara and Naoe Ai?

>>164285709
Not my game, picked it from Google.

I'm currently at the part of the game after using the Tank against those enemies and beating a posesed Leia.

>>164285854
I'm currently machine translating it too, but I found out about the marks with more skills because of the screen I just showed you, so I looked up on the wiki and found you get one after a couple of special encounters.

how many people are working at Alicesoft, i'm curious

>>164286402
check the booru

>>164286424
Here? 0

>>164286324
>>164286337
>>164286338
I would contest that while it did start with her older, she reverted back while Rance was still in her, so it should count as him doing the younger version of Mill.

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Is this the objectively best battle party for VI?

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Ask someone who played every Rance game anything.

>>164286512
KR should be higher than VI

>>164286512
>Kichikuou and 6 below Quest

>>164286512
You got some weird taste.

>>164286616
Quest had better graphics

>>164286424
at least 5

I've been to all churches but Italia's and 3d Test Site's have no events for Sel. Why?

>>164286636
So?

I keep getting this in 5D
>システムデータの保存に失敗しました
I know what it means but how do I fix it? I can play the game it's just that the prompt appears twice each time I move and is pretty annoying.

>>164286708
Are you sure you've gone to all of the locations I mentioned here?
>>164285276

I'm stuck on the part after you defeat Magic but she blows you away with White Destruction Beam.

I'm in Papaya's tower but have no idea how to advance through this stage. An elevator and several doors are blocked off. I even finished the monster challenges but that didn't help me get through the stage

>>164286763
Nevermind, for some reason Windows 10 set the folder to be read only.

>>164286906
Invisible wall by elevator; look at the mini-map

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Abert did nothing wrong.

>>164286937
oh, thanks man

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>>164286970
oh fuck my I_ button is not working anymore

>>164285264
It's 5% of the EXP gained by the member on your active party who got the lesser amount of XP.

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>>164286512

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guy would probably be dead if not for time over.

Wasn't Paris Academy in Leazas? Why's it in Zeth all of a sudden?

what's a good spot for orbs, I just wasted 20 minutes in the 3rd test site

>>164286970
>Cripples Urza and sets back Zeth progress years
>Turns the nicest of the 4 lords into a psycho
>Ruins Rizna life
>directly responsible for the death of his own son

Abert couldn't be a bigger piece of shit if he tried.

>>164287151
It is in Leazas.

>>164287162
Nearby forest Beginners route.
Just go along the way and kill at least 1 encounter for the guaranteed red/yellow orb.

>>164286970
He ate Sieg, so he can go burn in hell.

>>164287231
thx m8

>>164287162
If you just want red and yellow, Autumn Forest. Run north, take second exit to the right, get points, go back, go north, get points, escape. Very fast, especially if you just go with Rance alone and retreat from every battle.

If you want blue orbs then I go to nearby forest, complete left and then right branches fighting all battles as they come then go to the center and fight the remaining 5-6 you need for the blue orb.

>>164287087
>VI higher than decent
nice meme

>>164287257
thx

>>164287264
>why do people have different opinions from me?
Especially with a game with so many different aspects to it for someone to like/dislike you really can't come in and say there's a "correct" opinion on how to rate it.

>>164287320
Don't bother, he's basically just trolling at this point.

>>164287087
>Sengoku not on the highest tier
Shit taste

>>164287360
I put Sengoku on Shit Tier because I just don't like strategy games.

>>164287151
It has branches all around the world

>>164287320
SP and orbs shit alone makes the game not great by default.

>>164287360
Sengoku's gameplay is great but I can't pardon weaker character interactions and the weak plot.

>>164287423
I actually like both of those, I prefer them over quest's garbage system.

>>164287373
You can off yourself anytime.

>>164287423
I actually like the SP mechanic. Especially compared to the limited actions mechanic you see in later games. If they hadn't had any limiter whatsoever there'd have been no real motivation to use most of the characters at all and you'd just use the same party all game. (Something that bothered me a lot in IV, especially considering that game basically forced 3/5 slots on you most of the time.)

Though I agree orbs were largely unnecessary and should have been reserved for bonuses and skills and stuff.

>>164286503
Your missing out on Cessna's Full power attack DPS so swap her out with Rizna.

>>164287473
VI has much worse character interactions than VII.

>>164287529
Hahah, No.

>>164287542
Yes.

Patton and Sanakia were the only ones with good interactions with Rance.

>>164287423
The SP system is fine, The orbs are a little bothersome but nothing too troubling considering how easy they are to get. Although the blue orb skills needed to be spread out better, there was many times I got a blue orb from a chest when I already had 3.

>>164287529
Let's not go full retard anon.

Can't we all just get along?

>>164287373
I like grand strategy games, but don't see SR as particular good at it. For instance, the paradox games are way better gameplay wise.

>>164287687
Paradox games are the same garbage everytime.

>>164287687
>comparing a turn based strategy game to a real time strategy game

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So, is Sieg like Kesselring in he thinks humans are bastards and deserve to get ruled over by demons?

Then again, he was turned during Gele's time, so maybe he's just used to that way.

>>164287684
We would if people stopped acting like their opinions are objective

Why can't you back through doors?

>>164287778
Nobody said anything about their opinions being objective, boyo.

Stop getting so defensive over internet arguments.

>>164287684
People will mellow out in a couple weeks.

Ignoring the obvious bait.

>>164287684
It'll settle down after people get bored of trolling.

>>164287929
When /vn/ leaves?

>>164287891
Suck my cock, dude

>>164285443
>VI is only playable if you've played the Rance games before it, Sengoku has no such requirements.
Utterly false. There's only a few returning characters and they're briefly reintroduced anyway. It's like saying that you can't play Sengoku because you don't know Rance and Sill or the character called from reinforcements.
> Sengoku is popular because it's popular
???? Okay? Great reason.
> Sengoku gets praised for just about every part of it, particularly if you add the qualifier "for a h-games". VI does not get that praise even from this thread, it's more generally seen as awesome in some areas but poor in others.
VI does get praised. There's just some people that don't like it. There's also people that don't like Sengoku as well.

>>164287953
>having an opinion that I dont like is trolling.

>>164287320
Remember to ignore the hatefag shitposter.

>>164287772
He probably sees Demons > Humans as the natural way I suppose.

>>164287087
desu I definitely like Sengoku more than Rance VI.

Rance VI feels like a longer game and the story is probably better, but I liked the gameplay in Sengoku the best.

>>164284743
>Atago on trash list
What are you doing?

>>164288193
>calls those with different opinions shit taste
>acts like his opinion is objectively true
>not trolling

>>164288160
The people that dont like Sengoku are a minority.

VI has been a mixed bag so far.

Does anyone know where is the key for opening the hideout in the "defeat the females bandit quest" ?

>>164288621
So? Thats my subjective opinión.>>164288652

>>164288652
The people who don't like VI are in the minority here.

>>164288613
Atago isn't very good. Definitely not worth the time to raise her.

I personally hated gameplay and story in VI but I don't expect everyone to share my tastes.

I'm at cube with 30 FR, A weapon Sill, puzzle solved but door don't open. Someone know why?

>>164288660
Go to the base and see the event, then look around the forest outside the base for the green star; bam.

>>164288715
It hasnt been as well received as Sengoku.

>>164288613
She's certainly fuckable but she's a civilian and not a good one.

>>164288756
okay thanks

>>164288750
There are four puzzles and three doors. One door per character (Shizuka and Kanami also go there) and you need to solve all four puzzles every trip.

>>164288720
Her skill is absolutely fantastic, and she gives boost to EXP. And I'm amused by the idea of her cap getting forcefully raised and being brought along to all the dangerous dungeons.

Just started 6, is it better to pick % attack up or SP on FR bonuses? I assume XP is a waste.

>>164288824
>Her skill is fantastic
Not really, and it doesn't compensate for bringing a weak character along in your lineup unless you're doing shit dungeons, in which case the exp bonus is worthless.

If you want exp bonus there are better characters for it, Atago is mostly useless though admittedly that last part is amusing.

>>164288763
Disliking aspects of the game isn't the same as disliking the game. The game's still considered good by a majority here.

>>164288885
Character by character basis.

>>164288885
Does your unit have below 7SP? Pick SP.

>>164285443
1.) I doubt that. I've played only the translated Rance games but even if I hadn't, I think I'd understand VI's plot just fine. Everything is explained in explicit detail and many of the characters are unique to Zeth anyways, like Rocky and Kaoru.

2.) Sengoku Rance is popular because it's a good game. That's also why Kamidori and Daibanchou are popular.

3.) VI is a good game. IMO it's just not as good as Sengoku. However, that's only to be expected considering it's an older game with a more roguelike approach to gameplay.

I don't believe Sengoku Rance is mainly a strategy game btw. I feel like it's more like a well designed turn based RPG with some very light strategy elements.

I hope Quest and IX get translated. Those look great.

>>164288885
SP bonuses are a waste, don't bother with them.

>>164288958
Forget this.

6 is plenty for most characters. Toss FR bonuses into better effects. There are more than enough characters/SP to go around. I only found things particularly limiting when a character had 5 or less and more than 10 was often unecessary, though 12 is nice barring anything more useful, like Sanakia.

>>164288885
It really depends on the character but generally it's:

Really low SP? Take SP; usually a point is enough
Special upgrades if there's a specific move you really like.
Damage if you don't see anything else noteworthy

>>164288998
Quest and IX are almost universally agreed to be worse than VI though.

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>>164289075
>>164289004
>>164288958
>>164288950
Alright, thanks

>>164289276
There goes my hope for this general

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>>164289276
Well... I actually really liked VI at least.

>>164289326
The dude is exaggerating
Quest is a better game than VI, it just took a while to get there as vanilla quest was insufferable, but with the addition of Magnum both the story and gameplay overall are better. The skill system is worse than SP, but you have more freedom in how you build characters, which characters you use and how you play the game.

IX is... I dunno man, I didn't like it too much but I'm playing these games with 0 understanding of moonrunes without any kind of machine translation so all I have to go by is the gameplay, which is a decent TRPG but there's some shit that's really irritating (namely missions where you're forced to bring all of your troops while half of them are useless and do nothing but get in the way)

>>164288998
>VI
>roguelike
You cannot be serious.

>>164289326
Quest's plot and gameplay are weaker but if you love the characters in the series then you'll enjoy Quest even with it's faults. IX is in the same category, although instead of being bad like quest it's gameplay is just bland. It's art is also much better than quest's

>>164289276
Certain aspects sure, and maybe on the whole a better experience but Quest and IX both have some nice things going for it.

>>164289326
Fuck off then.

>>164289326
>General
It's not just in this general, it's almost universal in the Rance fanbase who have played the games.

>>164289460
>with the addition of Magnum both the story and gameplay overall are better
> I'm playing these games with 0 understanding of moonrunes
Then how can you say that the story is better.
Also, IX is the only Rance game that is almost a visual novel with a little gameplay. Playing it without knowing moon is a complete waste of time.

>Quest is worse than VI
>IX is hardly even a game
They're never going to top SR, are they?

>>164289276
>universally
>both are rated higher than VI
Ayy lmao.

>>164289708
If you're an SR fanboy? No, probably not.

>>164289708
SR never topped VI so it's alright.

>>164289326
That's Japans opinion as well.
>>164289708
Hopefully X will.

>>164289769
Well memed.

>>164289723
>rated
By who? Vndb?

>>164289708
SR isn't the top though, VI is.

>>164289723
VI is at 86, and Magnum and IX are at 85 though.

Vanilla Quest is at 76.

>>164289837
Yep

>>164289831
>everytime someone says that VI is better than SR he responds with "LOL meme".
Is this the average intelligence of people that shit on VI?

I know we need to shill VI so MG translates more AS games, but can we not hate on Quest and IX please?

>>164289913
Nobody is shilling mate, Quest and IX are good in their own ways but they aren't better than VI.

>>164289889
Japs have dogshit taste.

>>164289898
>trusting vndb ever

>>164289976
It a lot better than vndb scores though. Which is usually based on CGs alone.

>>164289913
Quest got ire before english VI released and IX has always been called on it's meh gameplay too.

Mangashills are in full force today.

How do I get Copandon back after she broke her leg?

>>164289913
Quest and IX are good games. They're just not better than VI.

>>164290048
Keep playing.

>>164290017
t.Japcuck.

>>164290048
You don't until post game.

Can't wait till the mods wake up, the shitposting is starting to get out of control

>>164289913
The common opinion has always been that Quest is a poorer version of VI though. Magnum saves it but vanilla Quest one upside to VI is the newer CG.

IX gets a lot of love it-hate it with the gameplay, mostly because it's a weaker version of Mamatoto.

>>164290063
Spoken as a true Mangashill.

>>164290092

Then why would I do the event?

>>164290162
Now you replaced "well memed" with Mangashill huh.

>>164289650
Unless the general here has been feeding me bullshit about the events I'd say the story is better, but then I don't have a particularly high opinion of VI's story.

>IX is the only Rance game that is almost a visual novel
I'm aware, hence I made no comments on the story on that one as it isn't as easy to digest as Quest was, also I have a habit of playing Rance games based only on what is visually presented and for the most part it's not too difficult to keep up with what's going on, I played VI before it got translated as well (and fuck some of the more obscure parts man)

>>164290159
>mostly because it's a weaker version of Mamatoto
You better mean in pure gameplay mechanics only as in IXs are dumbed down because Mamatoto is absolute fucking garbage and the only Alicesoft game I actively regret playing.

>>164290162
VI didn't magically get shit between 13 years ago and two weeks ago.

>>164290184
Don't reply, it's no longer worth it once someone brings up vndb as a legitimate form of an argument.

>way back when years ago
>Sengoku was considered the best game, got picked up for translation
>Kichikuou is suddenly considered the best game, gets picked up for translation
>VI is suddenly considered the best game, gets picked up for translation
>Quest and IX are now suddenly considered the best games
Right

>>164290217
the entire Kalar Plot of Quest is horrible boring

once it gets to Magnum's Plot about the Al Church it got better but i still wouldn't call it terrible interesting

>>164290223
I thought that was clear, but guess it wasn't.

Personally, I liked Mamatoto, but from a gameplay perspective, yes IX is a weaker version of Mamatoto's gameplay. The lack of Kids really left something to desire.

>>164290301
Sengoku, Kichikuou and VI have always been considered the best games depending on who you ask.
Quest and IX have maybe some people who like them better, but it's not the common consensus at all.

>>164290397
Haniho isnt the majority.

>>164290301
The thread has expanded/shrunk and changed over the years but SR, KR VI have always been considered the best 3

>Quest and IX are now suddenly considered the best games
Nope, they are an entire tier below the 3 above. Hell Quest was part of the reason why Alicesoft entered it's dark era

>>164290217
Magnum's story is passable but only due to it's lore connections, the story itself is lackluster

>>164290432
I'm not talking about Haniho, but you wouldn't know if you don't read moon.

>>164290432
The majority is the Japanese and they've always liked those 3 the best.

>>164290397
Whenever a game gets translated there's a wave of people who claim it was never good and that another, untranslated title is truly the best. Not people disillusioned by hype, people claiming no one thought it was good in the first place.

It's just people acting elitist. Japan, which can actually play each game when they come out, has had Sengoku as undisputed king since release.

>>164290432
Yes, the Japanese fanbase is the majority and they rate KR/SR/VI as the best 3 with IX/03/magnum tailing a few points behind them.

>>164290432
Isn't there supposed to be a VNDB for the japanese people?

Why don't we take a look at that? After all there's probably more Japs that play Rance games.

>>164290456
Japcucks have shit taste

>>164290518
>>164290506
Specifically they go SR>KR>VI, they aren't equal
>>164290550
It's called EroGameScape.

>>164290550
I just did, it's >>164289889.

The zethan capital is the worst maze in the game and it's supposed to be a fucking city where people actually live

>>164290550
Multiple different versions actually but they all have their own separate issues and shouldn't be relayed on as the definitive response of the fanbase. EGS is the one that english users normally refer to

>>164290340
Meh, I enjoy the introduction of the balance breaker concept and the attention it gets, but I do agree most of vanilla story was trivial nonsense of Rance hunting down strong women to fuck while dealing with Kalar bullshit it was all well in character for Rance.

But it's really Magnum that makes it better than VI, Am is great, the whole pope race is pretty good stuff, Feliss was good stuff etc.

I also like how things went down with Kanami and Suzume in Quest, though most people will dislike what happened to the latter.

VI to me was just dull though. In SR, the game ends with Rance accomplishing something grand, in VI he just fixed some shit that was broken for rather stupid reasons to begin with. If say Urza had just gotten her shit back together or Gandhi wasn't such a useless piece of shit they could have easily mended Zeth without Rance's involvement, the implicit accomplishments of subjugating Camilla and thus postponing Kaybliss overrunning Hornet isn't really a part of VI's story.

Camilla was also a shit villain with no presence that absolutely pales compared to Xavier in every capacity, and character interactions were done better in SR than in VI.

In fact, I'd love to actually hear people explain why VI is supposedly so great, it was a solid 7/10 for me but nothing close to SR which is a firm 9/10

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savage

I can only enter Magazine tower with my mages ? Well looks like i'm done playing

>Japs
SR > KR > VI > Magnum=IX

>West
SR > IX > 03 > Magnum > VI

>>164290704
Put IX after VI for me and I'd agree.

>>164290695
#Notallforeheads

>>164290682
relied*

>>164290686
Gandhi is hunting for a hero because of a prophecy he was told by the apostle in the Zeth capital and her prophecies are never wrong.

>>164290704
>West
SR = KR = VI > IX > Magnum

FTFY

Reminder that japanese majority likes Magic more than Urza

>>164290686
>Camilla was also a shit villain with no presence that absolutely pales compared to Xavier in every capacity
I don't agree but I can understand your other points but this is one I don't.
Xavier is a shit villain that has no character beyond "revenge! hate Nippon!".

>>164290686
>In fact, I'd love to actually hear people explain why VI is supposedly so great, it was a solid 7/10 for me but nothing close to SR which is a firm 9/10
I could easily see people preferring VI if you didn't like Sengokus strategy gameplay and preferred a more classical RPG, but if you like both about the same I can't see anyone preferring VI.
>>164290704
I'm western and my opinion is exactly the same as the Japs.

>>164289650
>Also, IX is the only Rance game that is almost a visual novel with a little gameplay.
This meme.

>>164290696
You pass through with mages and then get the non-mages back into the party.

>>164290704
Source: Anon's ass. Or Vndb, which might as well be an anon's ass.

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>>164290784
Except they don't

Why do people care about what 'majority' likes more? Do you guys have no opinions of your own?

>>164290781
>SR = KR = VI > IX > Magnum
The only people who say that are VIfags trying to make them all on the same level.

>>164290753
>>164290781
Im talking in regards to the databases,not hanicucks opinions.

>>164290896
VNDB is not a creditable source of information.

>>164290781
>Gandhi is hunting for a hero because of a prophecy
That's fair enough in retrospect, but in VI he's garbage because this is never brought up, he just talks about the Hero as a tool to ward off the impending monster army.

Also remind me who this apostle is, I keep forgetting that one.

>>164290807
He has presence and character, his actions are felt and a lot of characters have direct interactions with him which lead to some pretty great scenes. Compare Kou talking to Xavier on the battlefield to any conversation in which Camilla is involved. Say what you will about Xavier's simple motivations (which make total sense given what we know about him) at least he has clear motivation. Camilla is only really "I wanted to get as far away from Kaybliss as possible after he kicked my ass"

Hell, even Albert bails on her for being such weak shit.

>>164290840
You just click on the events of the chapter until you saw them all and move on to the next chapter, with some of them maybe having a battle. You can like it better or worse, but games like SR, VI, Quest are not like that. They are actual games.

>>164290889
I think people started talking about the majority because of this post
>>164290432

>>164290865
They did in VI

>>164290927
And your opinión is?

Sure thing.

>>164290973
VI's polling was different.

>>164290889
Because the discussion moved to what was the common consensus.

>>164290865
>Cessna that high
Does she have another scene in VI after her initial one? I need more Sleepy Murderer.

>>164290889
Haven't you noticed? If you talk about your own opinion you get told off with just "shit taste" or "Well meme'd"

>>164290959
>but in VI he's garbage because this is never brought up
but it still happens, he left his position almost as soon as he got it as he was told the prophecy right after becoming king. If he doesn't find this hero then humanity is doomed

>Hero as a tool to ward off the impending monster army.
Because that's the immediate threat, for all he knows this could be the start of the humanity vs Demon war. We as the reader know it's not but he doesn't

>>164290865
>Sill that low
Surely AS has to know how unpopular Sill is by now and will stop favouring her so much.

>>164290892
Says the massive Sengokufag.

>>164291103
That's unreasonably high for Sill. This is Quest, the game where she was an ice block for most of it and had only one scene.

To the anon in the previous thread who was wondering about scripted gameovers, I'm not sure if it counts precisely, but I just got a gameover after surviving the Time Up battle vs Seizel while Rance had a dicksicle. I was just using Caloria to Harden but forgot she only had 1 SP, so after the fight she retreated and with nobody in my active party, and Rance unwilling to Return Bonsai, it was curtains for me.

>>164290971
Then do you consider almost any tactical RPG with a story the same? IX is the same format of most TRPGs, you see some story and can do character events, then comes a gameplay map, rinse and repeat. Some of them, like half of the FE series, don't even have maps you can use to play at any time to farm and such, so in one playthrough you're limited to the X amount of battle maps that is part of the story.

>>164291095
I mean I concede that Gandhi overall is a reasonable rounded character but the way VI presents him he is downright insufferable, which I'd say is a flaw in VI and that was kind of my point, Gandhi comes off as a bag of dicks for no real reason, Kichikou did a better job of it.

>>164290861
the fight is kicking my ass, I thought I grinded enough, what level should I be around ?

>>164291103
She only had one scene in the entire game and still got 27th. Wasn't playable either. Bitch is still popular.

>>164291162
IX has way more text than those games, hence why I say it's like a VN. I'm not saying it's bad, just that it doesn't feel like a game like the rest.

>>164291103
>27th in a game she's essentially not in
>low

>>164290959
>I keep forgetting that one.
ルーシー・ジュリエッタ , she's highly respected by the mages of Zeth and Everybody takes what she says seriously.

>>164291103
Sill barely appeared in Quest, she polled alright in IX

>>164291173
Yeah, I get that. I'm just saying his actions are justifiable to due to the importance of the situation.

>>164291179
The one with the two guardians? You're supposed to run away.

>>164291103
In a game where she barely had any lines. She scored 5th in 03.

>>164291179
You just call allies during the fight though? You only need to walk through and can use Rizna, Sill, Shizuka and Maria to do so, then just add in Rance and Rocky or something, also note you can walk back out even with non-mages still in the party.

>Can't make Rance wear the mage clothes to walk through
Missed chance here though.

>>164291103
Sometimes I think I'm the only person in this general who doesn't rabidly despise Sill.

>>164291103
I think that was partly the reason Sill got frozen in the first place. Oversaturation is never a got thing

But since she's back in action for X after a two games absence i expect plenty of scenes with her

>>164291283
>>164291274
okay, I outbrained myself thanks a bunch

>>164291284
not at all, i actually like her, i just don't partake in the retarded Waifu Wars of /Haniho/

>>164291284
Nah she's alright. Rance makes her cute. I definitely thought two games without her was good though.

>>164291284
I don't hate Sill but with the amount of focus she gets they should at least try to develop her character in a meaningful way

>>164291284
People don't despise Sill, it's mostly just her being bland and one-note while she takes up too many scenes, she never really does anything of substance which is really cemented in VI, where despite being from a noble mage family and other characters with connections to Zeth acting on them, she does nothing.

>>164291309
>I think that was partly the reason Sill got frozen in the first place.
She gets frozen in Kichikuou as well, they just decided to bring it into the main line. It wouldn't have been because Sill was unpopular, this general is literally the only place that dislikes her, but because her character arc is that she's in love with Rance and starting to get really uncomfortable with his womanising so they postponed finishing it to X since there's only so much you can do with it.

And they still put her in Quest and IX anyway.

>>164291284
I like Sill, I hate how Alicesoft repeats the same Rance and Sill get separated by "event" and haven't done anything interesting with her in the series

>>164291284
She's okay, but gets more focus than she deserves.

>>164291284
I think she's okay, best when we see her snarking at Rance in her mind. Disappointed when she didn't do anything in Zeth despite her backstory and hometown being in Zeth.

Pink Mask better come back in X though, that was some awesome stuff.

>>164291446
>this general is literally the only place that dislikes her
See
>>164291495
>>164291469
>>164291386
>>164291379
>>164291373
>>164291367

>>164291147
That scene was added with Magnum, this is vanilla Quest only.
Though the iceblock had some scenes.

>>164284743
How did you get Lia to level 47? I can at best put her at 30 with the +10 boosting item and that's not enough to get her to 35.

>>164291446
Nobunaga basically straight up gives you the reason they froze Sill, to make Rance get over his massive attachment issues and learn that losing something is still better than never having had something to lose.

>>164291592
You can take the 10+ item off and the +10 still applies.

>>164291284
The ending of 4 and 5 are two of the highlights of the franchise for me because of Sill and her relationship with Rance. It's true that she never effects the actual main plots much though.

>>164291592
you put 3 times levelcap +5 items on her, fuck her once, and then a levelcap +10 item.

>>164291592
You can give her more than one of those boosting items, just override the previous one, the boost is permanent.

>>164291592
Once you use the talent item the bonus is permanent, even if you replace the item. If it wasn't like this than any character below 25 would be useless

>>164290704
There is no indication that is the West's prevailing opinion at all

>>164291854
He's judging based off vndb, who mostly give scores based off CGs.

>>164291228
Main character

>>164291929
Rance is the only actual main character. And the polls are for that game specifically, and Sill hit the top 30 despite being a background ornament. It would be like if Sanakia made it into the Sengoku Rance poll.

>>164291903
Well vndb is a pile of shit.

Among people who can actually play the games there definitely is no consensus that IX and 03 are better than VI.

If anything it is the opposite.

And a guy who just played VI for the first time in the last few weeks can't really say anything about Quest or IX or 03s worth.

Also if VI is too easy as he likes to complain then I have no idea why he likes 03 which is even easier.

>>164291903
Source on those claims?

>>164292045
vndb scores

>>164291645
I loved IV's ending as it's one of the few times (in the early games anyway) that we see Rance crack his tsundere shell. It was kinda there in 02, but that was brief and more general bravado.

Honestly, there's a lot I like about IV that I'll hate to see get messed with in 04, mostly the combat system, the Magic Visions and the sprite work.

Seriously, give Rance his expressions back, Remake Team.

>>164279384
>tfw busy over the holidays because of family and still haven't finished it

W-wait for me ;_;

>>164292083
So nothing?

>>164292104
>not busy over the holidays and still haven't finished it

I take it slowly

>>164292024
Sill, Shizuka and Kanami are main characters and will always have a fanbase they carry from game to game. You can also see that with a lot of other games.

Plus you know other characters in that poll like Cessna had literally nothing in Quest either apart from being an early game characters who is quickly made redundant. That poll was vanilla quest so there wasn't even the foursome scene.

Uzra and Rizna didn't get a great deal of attention either, Shizuka had no sex scenes and Tomato, Yulan and Noir had fuck all.

>>164292103
IV is basically the first game Rance starts developing as a character, it was really great playing that ending. The gameplay getting up to it though, not so much.

>>164292147
Hence why everyone call him bullshit.

>>164292179
It's not that surprising in the case of Quest though considering it's a game for fans of the series as a whole

>>164292197
I was talking about where does he take that opinion from.

Dont put words in my mouth, peasant.

>>164291103
Sill isn't rabidly unpopular. She just isn't particularly popular given her status and the attention she receives

A few mainstays are more popular than her plus a few new heroines each game

She'd definitely be in the top 15 most popular girls and a decent chance of being in the lower half of the top ten.

>>164292296
Well yeah I didn't say otherwise.

>>164292179
All those characters are still there, interacting with people and doing things and showing off their personalities and liked points. It's normal Quest so Sill literally did nothing. Sill is one of the main girls but that's it, she shares that spot with half a dozen other people while Rance is the stand out main character.

That's the poll for who you liked the most out of the girls who appeared in Quest and what they did in it, and Sill got on it despite essentially not appearing in Quest and doing nothing in it.

>>164292319
>>164292147
Not him but if you've had the displeasure of using the VNDB forums then see why people say that. It's certainly not as bad as it was a few years back but it's not like VNDB admins delete ratings except for obvious trolls

>>164292028
03 is a lot more enjoyable than VI

>>164292408
Im still waiting on that source

Is there a limit to the non-Level Cap increasing power-up that Rance gives other characters? Been pumping Cessna due to the abundant of Monkey Orbs.

>>164292423
I loved 03 and I prefer VI.

I did prefer 03 to Evenicle though which I also enjoyed.

>>164292560
Lvl 50-51.

>>164292408
you can see why people say that*

There's also some major issues with the site like being able to score a game before it's even released

>>164292484
I'm not subjecting myself to those forums again for the sake of proving general knowledge correct.

>>164292560
There's no real limit, but the increase is utterly negligible.

Also give it to Maria instead you fool.

>>164292560
roughly around level 50

>>164292386
No they literally have fuck all for the likes of Cessna
Scraping into the top 30 doesn't really indicate anything in terms of popularity or lack of popularity.

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As someone who actually played all the Rance games, this is my personal ranking:
Sengoku
Quest Magnum
03
VI
IX
01
5D

Kichikou is dead last to me because it's unplayable, by modern standards, it aged horribly, unless you cheat or read a guide there's no way to know what you're doing, the system is also primitive as hell and it's full of bugs.

The older ones like 1,2 and its reskin,3,4 suffer from the same problem, but worse.

>>164292573
Good for you I guess.

The lack of orb bullshit and Sp makes 03 a lot better to me.

Does the old 2.0 translations site still exist? Or is it gone for good since they have all been hired by MG?

There was some hilarious stuff on there, it would be sad if it was all gone.