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>Breach league
https://www.pathofexile.com/breach
>2.5 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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This year is gonna be the year Antalie Napora farts on my dick and calls me rude names
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just started mapping

do I go to the next tier immediately when it drops or wait to build a pool? how many do I wait for? I got 3 tier 2s in my first one
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anyone else meme when they trade
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>>164187643
>free
>>164212572
>free
>>164214705
>FREE
>>164223280
>free
>>164226086
>free
>>164244296
>free
>>164254345
>FREE
>>164255627
>FREE
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>>164272140
any ruski's that can translate his name?
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absolutely no pictures of cats or anime welcome below this post
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How do I become a ele wander
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>>164272626
what abt rad birbs

>>164272667
start off by getting a wand with crit on it
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>>164272626
Who do you think you're? Stop making such whiny demands!
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>>164272626
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>>164272626
what about doggos
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>>164273304
why is this a gif
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Guarantees me (You)s
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should softcucks always run unidentified maps for the improved quality?
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nobody cares what buttbirds do tobqhwyf
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softcucks should run a noose down their neck desu
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>>164273612
did a cat walk across your keyboard?
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>>164272626
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I'm playing flicker strike in hardcore
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>>164273775
i hope you have /oos bound to a macro
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doggos and rad birds are welcome above and below this post
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>>164272175
Happy new year, based Freeposter
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>>164272626
>>164273321
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mapping is piss easy desu
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>>164274196
You too anon
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>>164273857
I don't think I've used /oos for any character since they gave us lockstep
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>>164272626
Are snakes okay
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>>164274823
thats fucking cute
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>>164274823
Snake expert here
This hurts the snake and could be considered animal cruelty
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>>164275050
Better?
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Anyway to stop enemy hp from blocking your buffs? Sometimes I can't tell if I leap slammed too early and have fortify or not
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I hope you all had a swell NYE, poeg
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>mfw
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>>164275470
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>>164276449
I hate you
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>>164276449
FUCK
YOU
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>>164276449

Damn dude, how many streamers did you have to blow to get that RNG?
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>>164276529
?
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So many raiders buying int shit from me. Fucking howa
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>>164277313
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>>164277543
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>>164277573
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>>164276449
Nice RNG faggot how many shekels did you have to spend on MTX? Judging by your cosmetics, I'd say quite a few?
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>>164272017
terrible
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>>164277673
?
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>>164277698
i've spent 800~ dollars on cosmetics and tabs
i've never gotten this lucky
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>>164276449
A-almost min rolls

Wouldn't have wanted it anyway
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>>164277772
?
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how come i never get the punishment buff while i have it on blasphemy
is there some super in depth ultra secret highly classified game mechanic i'm missing here
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>>164277754

Oh my fucking god. How do you even do that? I've spent like $300 on Dota and that makes me sick even though I've played 6000 hours of that shit.
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>>164277813
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>>164277894
idk, video games are what keep me sane and i inherited a lot of money from my grandfathers death
i've spent like 2500 on league of legends
then got banned permanently, and spent about 1600 on a new account
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>>164277919
?
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nice general, poetards
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>>164277986
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>>164277967

Well if you've got money to burn then why not I guess. As long as it's not a problem for you, like people who spend their paychecks in slot machines.
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>>164278046
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>>164278107
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>>164278142
?
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>>164277754
>drop nearly 1 grand on a video game
>get excited when you get less than $20 back
?
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>>164278239
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>>164278328
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2 level 99 rips in an hour on HC

wew
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>>164278735
2016 ending with a blast
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>>164278358
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>>164278982
?
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Is this game the standard replacement for D3 or are Grim Dawn and some of the others worth looking at? I'm assuming it has the largest community outside of D3.
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>>164279731
Grim Dawn is OK, but offers too little content for its price.

This is f2p, and offers a good amount of content, especially if you play it for the first time.
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steyox can you stop being a retarded cancerous faggot in 820

ty
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These two memelords need to stop memeing this thread up.
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>>164279862
if you get it on a sale (like anyone should), grim dawn costs less than a stash tab bundle (the normal one)

and you can always just torrent the GoG edition

its a pretty complete arpg given that
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>>164279731
Its just a good arpg among several decent arpgs.

PoE just happens to have a healthy online presence thanks to relentless twitch and youtube shilling plus frequent fresh gimmick leagues that enable GGG to make mini "re-launches" every 3 months or so.
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>>164280912
> just torrent the GoG edition
well, yeah, sure

and yes, it is a good ARPG, and I certainly got my worth of fun time out of it after i bought it on a steam slae last year

I stilll think that PoE is is perfectly playable without ever spending a cent with zero drawbacks
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>>164281360
>I stilll think that PoE is is perfectly playable without ever spending a cent with zero drawbacks

it takes actual knowledge about this game to be able to play it comfortably with just the 4 default stash tabs right now.

there is a reason GGG's monetization model relies on people's frustration with the default amount of stash tabs
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desu I got the map called "the hall of the grandmasters" and I'm just getting raped
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>>164281505
>it takes actual knowledge about this game to be able to play it comfortably with just the 4 default stash tabs right now.
making three or four mules to just stash things is 'knowledge of the game'?
>there is a reason GGG's monetization model relies on people's frustration with the default amount of stash tabs
sure, but it still is one of the most beneficial f2p schemes out there
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Any newbie friendly witch builds out there? I like ice magic, typically.
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>>164281794
Just skip it like resident elite players.
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>>164281805
i said comfortably. muling to stash shit is retarded 90% of the time. few things are worth keeping. that is what takes knowledge, being able to progress quickly without getting boged down by inventory management and that means knowing what to pick up and how to get rid of it quickly if its sellable in any way

>>164281805
>it still is one of the most beneficial f2p schemes out there

warframe's is much better
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>>164281871
ice is pretty much shit, expensive to gear and not really good in any endgame content

google 'essence drain' for something that is newbie friendly, cheap and viable
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>>164281941
I didn't know it would be this difficult.I thought it would be an easy check for my atlas. I thought wrong.

;_; I lost a lot of exp
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>>164281871
Ice spells are overall the weakest atm. There are some outliers, like Vortex or Icestorm, but they either force you into melee range (!= newbie friendly) or are expensive (!= newbie friendly) to reach full potential. I guess you could try an old shool Ice Spear build but don't expect good damage. An alternative is using a lightning spell like Arc or Ball Lightning and using 3 Dragons for freezing.
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Anyone with arctic armor MTX+ yeti mask want to showcase that for me?
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>>164281952
>warframe
forgot your cat picture
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>>164281952
>i said comfortably. muling to stash shit is retarded 90% of the time. few things are worth keeping. that is what takes knowledge, being able to progress quickly without getting boged down by inventory management and that means knowing what to pick up and how to get rid of it quickly if its sellable in any way
That is what I consider 'advanced play' anyway, so new players would not be able to do it pretty much by definition.

>warframe
Never played that, the artstyle and setting are disgusting and uninteresting.
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>>164282072
>Ice Spear build but don't expect good damage.

Ice spear is fucking insane after that buff.

it's a sleeper skill mark my words. Mathil will pick it up and everyone will be bitching about how OP it is.
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>>164282092
unlike catshitter, i actually played it back in its prime (U9-U13) when the vg guild dominated the game
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>>164282151

And yet i guarantee you any newb picking that skill will uninstall the game 2 hours after.
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>>164282521
This is one of PoE's big problems, too many skills that only work under extremely special circumstances
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>>164283006
tooltip?
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>>164283409
4.9k average damage
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHATS IN THE BOX
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>>164283679

ashcaller
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>>164283679
WHATS IN THE FUCKING BOX
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>>164283679
queens decree
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>>164283743
>>164283730
>>164283727
>>164283679

>prophecy
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>>164282076

pls
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>>164279926
If you give me death doors with 16% ias enchant I will be busy mapping and not shitting your channel up
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>>164283804
which one is that?
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Any cheap/newbie ready builds that use melee? Or is melee usually harder?
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>>164284049
yeah but they're not "melee", only melee in name, shit like earthquake or cyclone
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>>164284049
max block blade flurry
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>>164272017
does the explosion on infernal blow scale with fire damage on your tree/gear?
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>>164284286

depends
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accidentally burned my left hand with boiling water, what's a build i can play one handed? absolutely no input from left hand required thanks
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>>164284325
on what? also does it crit?
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>>164284427
hands of memes and actions

t. shitcrow idiot who can do t16 maps with it
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>>164284325
help
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>>164284445

Depends on if you read the wiki or not.
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>>164284286
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Infernal_Blow
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>>164283679
how did you get that?
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Do T16 maps only drop from their adjacent locations even if you've cleared the T16s before?
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>>164285998
no
how do you get so far in the atlas without understanding how it works?
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>>164286083
I wanted to make absolutely sure before I start scouring shit off my atlas.
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>>164284501
post build
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blight cwc blade vortex is pretty fun
you heard it here first, poeg
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>>164287428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqz-kjjsxYY
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>>164284286
Yes, fire damage, elemental, area but thats it afaik
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hey i can't open poe on this temporary computer. can anyone tell me if you can have multiple trade chat windows open with the chat changes made a while ago? im thinking of making something to parse the garbage in multiple channels.
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Can you recommend me a build that clears faster than ED?
I'm doing t15s but I kinda got bored of ED playstyle even though I can do every map mod
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>>164289317
blight cwc blade vortex
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>>164289317
Vaal Spark.
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>using facebreakers
>pick up hammer for chisel recipe
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A six socket vaal regalia just happened to drop while leveling
It's iLvl 68 though. Is it worth hanging on to?
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>>164289498
sell it to some gullible idiot who doesn't filter by ilvl
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>>164289498

sell it to some sap, still highly priced though.
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Why is identification still a thing in ARPGs? Seems a bit useless imo, scrolls are dirt cheap and abundant, so what is the point?
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>>164289551
>>164289583
What, just in white quality?
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>>164289498
whys it worth less?
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>>164289662
>Everything is identified
>Literally filter everthing that isn't gg
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>>164289662
some uniques/items can be worth more unid than ided basically selling for the media with a couple divines std dev

inventory management by design

id scrolls are currency, the smaller you can break down currencies the better they can be traded with each other, this is needed because poe doesn't have gold
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>>164289417
>That
>faster than ED
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>>164289924
i mean there are several avenues you could explore to speed up ED itself, not all ED builds are comparable, depends on how much cast speed you can get

essence crafted gloves for faster contagion cast
onslaught
frenzy charges
vaal haste
etc
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Tier 8 shaping Atoll, Island or Cemetery?
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>>164290104
island and atoll
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>>164289924
Are you an Occultist? Because Profane Bloom is insane for clearing, if you're not i can see how ED can suck for you.
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>>164290165
Cemetery triple boss not worth it?
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>>164289487
>picking hammers for chisel recipe
>not knowing you can disable autoequip
you're retarded aren't you?
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>>164290104
Shore

>entire map is an open area with levels
>boss drops insane loot and is ez
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>>164290230
no
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What char should i level next?
I play softcore this league so i want to kill shaper for the first time

5 ex budget

No meta bullshit (flameblast bladefurry etc)
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>>164290291
summoner
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>>164290291
retard
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>>164290291
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzegU2UCpyk
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>>164289823
I can't recall the last time I bought anything with scrolls other than upconverting
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>>164272476
Barrel with pain inside
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Which microtransaction pet is best pet?
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How much strength would you need with pillar of the caged god to make it comparable to something like doomfletch's prism or facebreakers?
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>>164292148
black cat
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hmm yes very nice game poetards
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>>164292696
>PathOfExileSteam.exe
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>>164290345
you
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stable client fucking WHEN?
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>>164292696
Works
On
My
Machine
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Which hideout is the best one?
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>>164293123
Nessa's
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>>164293123
leo's
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can somebody explain to me why are acuity's so expensive when vaal pact exists?

and you are probably already speccing into that side of the tree anyway so it's not like you are saving a huge amount of points by unspeccing vaal pact

and 35% increased crit is like 2% more
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>>164293207
It's VP without the downside of VP (no life regen) which makes them BiS for some niche life attack builds
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>>164290189
>Profane Bloom is insane for clearing
Uhhhh it stops contagion from spreading...
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>>164293207
berserker and other classes have to take a shitton of points to get it
And the uber atziri fragments are pretty rare so running a run alone costs a shitton of money

and that it has to drop it and not the shitty mask
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>>164293429
it spreads Decay, which every ED build uses now, so it's actually fairly potent, not to mention in Breach where any % based damage is insane
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>>164293494
It doesn't spread the decay from a delirium weapon
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>>164293429
Your ED does fuckall damage compared to Profane Bloom's own damage + Decay it's spreading.
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>>164293559
Profane Bloom is an explosion
explosions hit
any hit applies Decay
so it spreads it in that sense
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>>164290226
I dont get how people can deal with cemetery, so much little allevated platforms that fuck yur shit up
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>>164293559
"i have no idea what the fuck i'm talking about"
-u
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>>164293207
There are builds that spend upwards of 10 points traveling to and getting VP. That's huge savings. On top of that, acuity have absurdly limited supply, because they only drop rarely from uber, and even now that you have the div cards massively inflating the supply, it still takes fucking 16 for a set.
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>>164293658
>>164293670
I've tested it and it only happens when YOU hit, not when something you do makes a hit
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>>164293705
either they changed it or you're lying because i remember it working in prophecy
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>>164293207
What others have said, plus it gives instant mana leech, useful for some builds
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>>164293764
essence i mean
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>>164293764
that's really weird, given that decay wasn't a thing in prophecy
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>>164293705
You're wrong retard, you just think it doesn't apply decay because Profane Bloom explosions aren't supported by the gems your ED is supported with so it's not as strong which makes you think it's not working.
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has anyone ever actually used the frostbolt and vortex/ice nova mechanic. or even used ice nova at all since vortex was added
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>pos12 on ladder ripped to bameth's vaal dd
I keep telling you fucks. Find a socket for vaal dd if you're going to run breaches in beyond maps. It's good unlinked so you can put it in an unset, and it's not a waste because % based corpse explosion is bretty gud.
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>>164294309
alternatively, don't run into 5000 bodies when you know you're running a beyond map and you see bameth spawn?
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>>164294124
>has anyone ever actually used the frostbolt and vortex/ice nova mechanic
No.

>or even used ice nova at all since vortex was added
No.
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>>164289679
It can't roll T1 affix/suffix
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>>164294309
do you get souls from enemies killed by vaal dd?
as in, could you theoretically clear a map by running sequences of vaal dd?
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>>164294481
>bameth spawns
>have no clue he's even around because there are a kajillion enemies around you and it's literally impossible to tell him apart from the background carpet of corpses covering the floor
>fps goes to 0 the instant he casts DD
>died
pretty much my experience with most beyond maps
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>>164294804
Yeah, in theory. In practice, 96 vaal souls is an absurd amount, especially when your damage is localized to where you've already killed stuff. VDD is really good in breaches, but not so great for general purpose clearing.

The good news is Vaal Breach is a thing, so you can Vaal Breach, then Vaal Cyclone, then Vaal DD a boss and laugh because this is what our queen atziri intended.
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>>164294903
There should be a vaal desecrate which creates a corpse of every targettable entity on the screen. I want to DD shaper with his own body.
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For my last three Chayula breaches, literally zero rares or hands have spawned in the entire fucking breach. Can this shit be fixed? I mean for fuck sake...
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>>164295148
>start new characters
>breaches have multiple hands sometimes 2 next to each other
>on my lvl79 char breaches usually don't have hands
really makes me think
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Whats the best way to craft boots
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>>164296019
poe.trade
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>>164295148
Why would you ruin the one thing thats actually worth money this league
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Bored of current build but still need 50 mil exp to level gems. Are breach lord rotas fastest way to level them up?
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>>164296347
normal atziri
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>>164296347
yup that or poorjoy
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>>164292148
froggos
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>>164296019
wisdom scrolls
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Does a dousing flask dispel the fire breachlord's insane damage over time effect he occasionally uses?
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>>164296862
can't dispel ash
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>>164296928
Well fuck. What's the proper way of dealing with it except for tons of leech?
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>>164296986
rotp + ruby + pof
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>>164296862
>xoph
>insane in any way
???
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>>164297095
Dot just seems hard to counter for my character. With everything else I instantly heal to 100% with the Berserker ascendancy and loads of cwdt.
Facetanking the lightning guy was no issue.
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>>164296986
killing him because he has literally no health.
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>>164297327
you can force cloaked in savagery to proc with doedre's if you don't have too much chaos res
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poopx's blight build is shit

bet he thinks he's smart too

fucking retard
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>>164297442
him: level in 95 in bhc
you: level 72 in shitcore

:thinking:
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>mathil made a howaa build
HOPE YOU STOCKED UP THOSE ITEMS
$$$
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>>164297442
By his own admission, it's literally just abyssal cry plus a meme to proc it. AC does all of the work in the build.
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>>164297573
I thought you cant trigger warcries
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is this worth anything ? I've had no bites yet
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>>164297657
Right. He still has to manually cast AC. But you need something to do damage initially to kill dudes to start the AC chain reaction.
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>>164297538
he's shit

i've won several HC demis
>>164297573
there's so much wrong with his build he should just reroll berserker and pretend he never made that shit character
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what's your new year resolution, poeg?
for me, x pushups per x map tiers, 5k map tiers = 5k pushups
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>>164298335
To finally stop playing this shit, find a job and start a family
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>tfw just unironically died to normal vessels of the vaal

2nd fucker just disappeared the moment he became active so i zoomed to the other side of the room, only he popped back up in the same spot. when i returned, he was in the middle of charging up a retard slam and i had no time to react. jesus christ that could not have gone worse.
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>>164298335
It would be better to do a whole set of squats, pushups and crunches per [insert arbitrary number here] tiers.

Since you want to keep it 1:1, perhaps 5x5x5 per 15 tiers would do.
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>>164298874
>no pull ups
>bodyweight shit at all
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>>164299121
>it would be better

Notice, there is no "perfect" anywhere in my post.
retart
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>>164298335
None obviously, because it's arbitrary. That's also why most people fail at their new year resolutions a week in, they aren't intrinsically motivated to change.
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>>164299537
I'm not most people
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>>164298335
Get in shape and get a gf.
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>>164299583
Good for you. But it changes nothing about the statement.
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>>164281952
Never played Warframe, so I'll just have to take your word on that, but it doesn't change the fact that in an industry where 'MTX' is nigh synonymous with 'Fucking your players over', the system that GGG uses is benign at worst.
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I would like to start this off by saying that this is in no way a post that is meant to talk about softcore vs hardcore in terms of which is better. Everyone plays PoE in their own way, and I totally respect that.

What this post does talk about however, is a middle ground player like myself who plays softcore but with a harcore mentality. What does this mean? It means that when I approach a build I am far more concerned about my character staying alive and having very low deaths, then I am playing glass cannon. Again this is just a playstyle choice.

Medium core players will have more life on tree, and opt for safer builds, also we approach the playstyle a little slower and we are not even afraid to logout just for good mechanical practice.

I have been playing PoE for 2 years (since late beta) and in that time I have never been able to play hardcore. I have always had unreliable internet, and for whatever reason PoE has FPS spikes on my computer. Additionally I have a family (3 young children), who cannot be ignored while playing. I have tried hardcore but have had too many deaths that were related to the above factors.

I wanted to reach out to other players who approach the game like me, and be able to share thoughts about how to play the "Medium Core" playstyle effectively.

So to get the discussion going, I would like to ask you how much room you give yourselves in terms of Survivablity vs decisions to use items like Abyssus. I am currently playing a Crit Reaver in Warbands, and I am trying to make Abyssus work while mitigating as much physical damage as possible. But I always find these kinds of things challenging because, I hate having my characters life spike. Obviously I dont play hardcore, but I watch hardcore streamers to try to see how they can both prioritize defenses while having good clear speeds. Thank you all!
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>>164298335
Go to the gym twice a week rather than once a week.

I'm not looking to get swole, just drop a bit of excess weight, and I've already taken a fuckton of steps to improve my diet so I figure I can actually make it this year.
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>autist get's good advice what not to do
>calls another guy retard out of the blue
>ends up looking like a fridge with chunky arms

kek
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>>164289662
there are arpgs without it

mh comes to mind
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>retard can't read and has to project his "superiority"
>gets called out, triggered, and makes another retarded post

kuk
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>>164299689
based reddit poster
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>>164298335
guess you should stick to running t1s or better yet, driedlake

LOL
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>>164297565
I made one for a couple ex before the build became a meme. Don't play that char anymore so looking forward to selling his gear for twice the cost.
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>>164299662
in wf the same currency used for "account features" and their mtx and consumables cash shop is the same de-facto player trading currency

this leads to a situation where its technically possible to start from scratch as a freefag and still end with 100% the stuff a f2p whale has just by getting gud at the game and the trade meta
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>>164298335

i start HRT this year
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>>164299689
Solution:
CI.
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>>164300369

stop embarassing yourself

pushups are literally the most useless thing you can do when you're a fatso. you won't last a day anyhow.

5k pushups in a month? lol

kek yourself
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>>164300435
someone's projecting
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why does poopx get duration nodes

why does he spend four points to get a fucking jewel slot

why did he go occultist

why is he using ascent from flesh

90% of his damage is abyssal cry and yet he puts his blight into his 6l and his AC into his 5l

why is he such an obnoxious brotard
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>>164300842
And perhaps that is why I was telling him not to do only pushups but a variety of exercises?
dummy dum-dum
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>>164301253
Duration extends the duration each stack lasts what are you retarded

idk lel

-chaos res, ci, and xirgil's + wicked ward is amazing synergy

idk honestly

abyssal cry helps with rares and shti not trash

living with zeno changes you
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>>164301253
>duration is not useful for blight, poison, wither, vaal discipline
get a load of this massive retard
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Hey poeg, do you have your demonic wings yet?
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The 80c or so I spent to unfuck my atlas were so worth it.
Instead of opening 50 doors on a map, I can just walk along a path and see shit drop left and right now.
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>>164301876
Atziri's helmet is a mtx?
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>>164301490
>>164301624
>URF DURF STACKS HRMPH

lol
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>>164302367
witnessing your confusion when a superior player uses a build/tree/gear you literally cannot comprehend is immensely satisfying
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>>164302343
first 50 to kill atziri

almost all of those people paid someone else for it which is why they don't do that shit anymore
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>>164302968
damn i want that limited edition mtx
very jelly
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>>164302670
talk to my demis because i'm not listening
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i was doing a blight+ac build as well and realized that i was way too reliant on my warcry to the point that the entire act of clearing was just managing my ac cooldown

so i switched to selfcast poison bf
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>>164303816
>keeping track of a 4s cd is difficult
poetards, everyone
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>>164303882
>buffing yourself every 4 seconds is fun

I bet you have buffs on movement skills too
lmfao
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>>164303882
it wasnt difficult. in fact i had it on a macro

but i still had to wait for it. thats like playing D3 stuff
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tfw you will never make money because loading into your hideout and back into a map takes 3minutes total
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>>164304470
Buy a fucking SSD, Jesus Christ.
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what's a fun scion build that is not totem something
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>>164304832
whats a scion
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Is any berserker build good on breaches?
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Just opened a rare strongbox with contained gems have experience and out popped an empower

GUESS WHAT FUCKING LEVEL IT WAS?

ONE. LEVEL ONE

FUCK YOU GGG
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>>164304871
yeah blade vortex
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>>164304923
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>>164305019
WHATS EVEN THE POINT IN ROLLING THE GOD DAMN THINGS. WASTE OF FUCKING ALCHS

I'm mad
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>>164304923
>Have experience
>Not "Gems have increased level"

Y'all aren't very in tune with the whole critical thinking thing are you?
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>cant play poe because i depleted my monthly data cap
>found titan quest on my laptot disk
>try to make a bow character
>the whole skill tree has one (1) active bow skill
>its the same as basic attack except it does more damage and costs mana
>mfw
>okay lets make a melee character i guess
>there is only one active aoe attack in the whole tree
>you have to grind 5 levels with your basic left click to "rush" it
>finally get there
>max 4 targets, 10 second cooldown
>mfw
>okay how about a spellcaster
>grand total of 6 offensive spells between 4 elements
>mfw

Autism Test: The Game, Default Attack Edition
This piece of steaming dogshit came out 6 fucking years after D2. What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>164304923
pretty sure empower can't drop above level 1
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If I use HoWA in one hand and The Scourge in another does the minion damage increase the lightning damage?
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>>164305528
why would you do that
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>>164305348
it didnt have any experience ass clown. IT was 0/xxxx experience and level one
>>164305359
thats some shit
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>>164305528
yes but why wouldn't you just use another howa the lightning damage isn't local to the weapon
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I heard rng is good in 2017
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I kind of want to try Pathfinder with Mbuguni's Flame.
Mostly for Dying Sun, with 3 extra projectiles.
I'm just looking at it compared to Raider, you don't lose much damage, because the frenzy charges (5-7+) are kind of an investment in themselves on the tree.
It only one thing that bothers me: going Pathfinder without Vinktar's leech feels ridiculous, even if I'll still probably carry it around for the sock effect.
Either way, I want to be CI.
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>>164306170
21/20 vulnerability
20/23 bv
JUST
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>>164306214
>Sock Effect
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>>164306214
So basically literally Etup's build
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>>164281158
PoE really figured out the best way to keep the game alive with the Leagues. Pretty much only MMOs could be considered to be in a similar state of constant evolving but PoE makes you start new characters which keeps the whole thing fresh for longer on top of constantly adding new ways to build characters.
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How does this make you feel?
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>>164284089
Well Cyclone is about as melee as this game gets.
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>>164307104
>not showing sockets

newshitter spotted
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>>164294124
I promptly tried that when they added the skills but then realized it was a fucking shit mechanic and stopped trying to do that shit.
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>>164305765
>>164305598
To go necromancer, I love necromancer
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>tfw your build requires a pair of unique boots with low +movement speed mod
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>>164300435
Hot damn there are some ugly people in the world.
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>>164308104
good thing shieldcharge and whirlingblades exist
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>>164308170
>build is built around a particular 2h weapon
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How difficult is vinktar square?
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is it worth grinding dried lake in a party until level 80?
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>>164308267
leap slam + lodda attack speed then
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>>164305350
It was a different time back then.
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>>164306573
Thanks, that was actually exactly what I was looking for, hadn't seen it before. I'm not being sarcastic.

I was just a bit sceptical if the damage was there, with so few offensive nodes.
But, I'm sure it'll work without headhunter.
I'll just use a crystal belt/fire-invitation.
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>>164308305
77
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>>164307905
If you're gonna do that you might as well dual scourge.

It's actually a pretty good option since the 70% global mod stacks and also double dips for poison
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>>164308339
>don't really feel like chroming my boots that have a spare socket I don't even use even though it would be a single off-colour and it would be easy as fuck
>could also just equip a shield in weapon swap but too lazy
I just can't win
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>>164307104
I'm a fan of simply speccing into Unwavering Stance myself. Being totally stun immune is slightly smoother than Valyrium. So I don't need that much resistance.
That in turn makes me able to use shaper's touch for 1100 Accuracy, and opal rings for what I think it just "strictly" better offences. At the loss of like 400ES from gloves.
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>>164308420

thanks
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Is there a single item worth chancing or are they all like playing the lottery, where statistically speaking you're almost guaranteed to never make your money back due to the sheer amount of tries needed?
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>>164308905
lottery aka tax for the poor
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>>164308905
the price would always go towards the price it takes to chance them
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>>164309023
>>164309050
better stop chancing glorious plates then
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>build doing fine so far
>cant kill arid lake boss without portaling to refill mana flasks

this is what disappointment looks like
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>>164309213
>build doing fine so far
>mana flask
:\
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>>164309468
nothing wrong with using 1 flask for mana, specially if you are CI, since it doubles as antibleed or antifreeze
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>vagan mission to kill dummies
>playing flicker strike
löl
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>>164309213
GULP GULP GULP
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Christ, this game is an unoptimised piece of shit. Are there any tricks that make the experience smoother?
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>>164309191
>chancing anything that is not sorcerer boots

baka desu senpai
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>>164310056
overkill specs
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>>164308419
You also don't need skyforth to make it work.

Headhunter is insane for that build because there's a lot of physical scale shit and generally every mod you can get is helpful, one of the few builds that really makes full use of headhunter, but it's entirely unnecessary its just a clearspeed item (also gives a lot of str and dex which is nice)
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>>164310072
am I not allowed to be a shitcrow now? ffs
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>>164310056
this worked for me:

cap framerate at 60 with vsync off
disable shadows
disable steam overlay (or use standalone client)
set all texturing options on your vidcard's settings to "high performance"
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>>164310056
smug pepe.jpg
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>>164310072
I make serious jewbux chancing uniques from white 6l early in the league.
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>tfw running out of maps
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Does Iron will works with ancestral protector?
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Ok let's get real for a sec: is there any build more FUN that flicker strike?
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mapping is a fucking joke

last night was my first night ever of mapping after starting playing a week ago and I got up to tier 11
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vaal temple can suck my fucking dick

>HEY GUYS YOU KNOW THAT ATZIRI TRIO THAT IS KNOWN FOR ONE SHOTTING PEOPLE ON UBER
>LETS GIVE THEM A SMALLER ARENA, LESS VISIBILITY, MORE DAMAGE, MORE HEALTH, A HIGHER LEVEL AND SUSCEPTIBILITY TO MAP MODIFIERS
>ISNT THAT FUCKING EPIC
>SIMPLY EPIC
>E P I C
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>>164311501
is ancestral protector a spell?
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>>164311638
nice dude

now go do twinned core, you fag
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>>164312012
Are totems considered spells? I have no idea really I tried checking the wiki but besides the article being pretty barebones it's also bugged as hell thanks to bad formatting.
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I'm thinking about an alternative HoWA build not using BF, thinking about Frost Blades or Lightning Strike. Would the added WED work on the projectiles?
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>>164312165
it says in the tooltip
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>>164312165
Look at the fucking gem tags you blithering idiot
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>>164312201
Yes
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http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Hand_of_Wisdom_and_Action
Is this a meme weapon or actually a t1 clearing enabling?
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>>164313129
all the gear for it already costs shit loads. ur like 2-3 weeks late
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>>164313129
Are we looking at the same unique?

Like, do people really need others to tell them if something is good or not? I can understand shit like Ngamahu's Flame, since nobody knew what 'Level 16 Molten Burst' did until they actually equipped it and saw the tooltip, but in the case of HoWaA, where all the information is right there on the weapon, how can you not know that it is amazing right off the fucking bat?

I don't get it. This is literally the Mathil effect, where people are unable to comprehend that something is good until somebody better than them says it is good.

Jesus christ think for yourself you fuck
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>>164313442
All you really need is a Vaal Regalia, duh
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>list item worth exalts
>instantly spammers invite me to party and send me 3 messages

god I fucking HATE these people

no wonder people list stupid shit underpriced and set themself to dnd/afk just to piss them off all the fucking time
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>>164313510
>>164313442
Gosh tell me you would KNOW this was good before it got popular, go ahead tell me something unpopular that's just as good...
Couldn't come up with anything huh? Thought so morans
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>>164314190
>buyer drowns you with party invites
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this bait is so weak it doesn't even deserve a (You)
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>>164314190
>boo i want to sell this item and i get buyers hoo!

wew lad
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>>164312332
Excuse me if I'm a distracted person
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Simply ebin
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>>164314610
>>>>>>>>>>>>>buyer
lowballers trying to scam new players you mean?


yeah ok
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>>164315208
you didnt say how much they offered
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why do people think vagan daggers are worth anything right now?
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what are your keybinds? screen cap them pls
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>>164315389
How much do you think dumbass
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>>164313442
>Sub 100 astramentis are being sold for over 2 ex.
>I bought a +103 astramentis for 110c
Fact: anyone that didn't see this comming was an idiot
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>>164315525
BiS for inquisitor

there's also apparently some secret shit build going around that uses a vagan dagger for BF on HC because all it needs is added chaos to do good damage
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>>164316160

but isnt that meme shield basically just the same for 1alch?
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>>164316023
How am I supposed to know that? Are you, by any chance, a woman?
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>>164316684
not for a ci char
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>>164316684
the shield has 0 es though
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anyone know prices for breachstones? I cant find them on poetrade
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>>164317092
they're in the currency section for some reason
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>>164312123
sell me the map and Ill go do it right now you little pussy
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What is The Shaper's goal? Are we the bad guys?
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>>164317390

he just wanted nice happy maps where all monster lived happily and strong

but then we started genociding his life's work
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>try to buy something for 5c
>it was listed 24 hours ago
>guy says LOL NAW JUST PUT IT IN THE 5C TAB RELISTING FOR 8C BUD

literally why
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Soo how much dps is acceptable on an essence drain on a non-LL build and is the consuming dark even that good with it's posion effect?
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>>164317845
20k will get you through most of the content in the game. Poison is valuable on enemies with huge health pools like guardians and shaper but it's a relatively late upgrade, shavs much more important.
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>>164317967
> non low life
Why shav's?
>>
Random question but is there a video or something that shows what an area in PoE looks like with all the monsters just standing around in it? Not really sure what to search for.
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>>164318028
Because going LL should be your next goal, duh. The only other long term alternative is a +2 skin of the loyal, and that's going to be substantially more difficult to get.
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>>164318036
atlas of worlds trailer had some shit like this
>>
>game latency jumps around 39 and 1800 ms
>ping router and its a steady <1ms
>ping google and its a steady 8-9ms

what do
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>>164318123
Ah shiiet my shekils... im always too greedy and sell most of my currency to the buyers. Eh, i guess i'll have to invest in the build at some point.
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>>164318216
Contact your free.
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How much e-shield is enough to be worth to sell?
>>
what happens if we just all start typing free in every message

how long is freeposter's message gonna get
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>>164319050
why would you want to humour discordfags?
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>>164316103
I was the one called that some threads ago
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>>164319194
humo(You)r a noose with your neck
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How do I get into the discord?
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>>164317762

why? because online you're never hold accountable for anything. normal conventions are thrown out of the window and if things get heated you just log out
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>>164319643
you have to be an elite HC player like me
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is it worth to help oak in cruel if you plan on using an abyssus or does the attack speed outweigh it?
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what single change or addition/removal in the 3.0 patch notes would make you drop the game for good?
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>>164320645
i've already played through thick and thin, don't think anything can stop me from playing except the game shutting down
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>>164317845
At about 25k+ dot I began feeling comfortable running red maps. This is only with lvl20 ed and lvl3 empower so i'm shooting for 30k for guardians and shaper.
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>>164320210
pls reponse
>>
Recommend me a FUN caster build.pretty please
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>>164320943
>>164320210
depends on the skill/weapon fagget
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>>164320993
pure blight
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>>164321075
face breaker shield charge bleed gladiator
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I'm gonna play Spectral Throw without HoWA
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what happened?
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>>164321153
i d get the phys
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Is there a build that's pretty strong and resilient to patches/nerfs besides totems?
>>
What are some good caster builds for someone new to PoE? I played a bit of D2 back in the day and liked Poison Necros, Trapassasin, and Bowazons.
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>>164321695
Righteous Fire
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I finally did it guys!!!
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>>164321695
Eq Jugg/Slayer/Berserker/Hierophant
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>>164322042
>le meta faggot

kys
>>
>>164321745
Blight
>>
>try to find streamer to watch
>vaal spark
>vaal spark
>russian
>vaal spark
>standard softcore
>russian
>vaal spark
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>>164322910
>watching e-celebs

may as well tell us what did santa bring you this christmas
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>>164322734
I'm level 97 on BHC as the build and started it before any of the streamers but I better reroll and respec because they're playing it!!!!
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>>164323046
'Don't Tread On Me' beer cozies and a dozen pairs of wool socks with double fabric soles.
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>>164321318
Pls can you fucking respond to me ree
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>>164322042
might morphan howa ranga XDD
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>>164322042
lend it to me mate
>>
>>164290403

That actually looks cool as fuck
>>
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1810213
>Massively increased average game performance (by triple for many users).

poetards?
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>>164323961
wow
what an unholy mess the client must've been back then
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>>164323961
>chinese release soon
yyyeeeeeeeeeeee booiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii here coms dat sweet RMT dosh
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>get a disfavour from the void last night
>wake up and drop a shavs from end of lab

SOMEBODY STOP ME
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>>164324436
I hate you more now
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>>164322042

Id rather keep the card set, farm up a second set, then get 'ead'unter.
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>people unironically berating people for playing builds that were proven to be good instead of their own shit noncrit nonshavs low life quintuple ele hit totem buildsâ„¢
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>>164320868

How the fuck are they so bad at tooltips.

>it says 10k dps at the top
>but it's actually 27k dps as it says near the bottom.

Who is doing quality control at their fucking office? I have done software testing before so give me a fucking job GGG, you guys clearly aren't capable of spotting this shit yourselves.
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>>164322042
buttbird
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>>164324436

Man get the fuck outta here.
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>>164325609
The skill actually hits and deals damage, you dumbo. Top is the projectile's hit damage and makes complete sense. Other tooltips are generally retarded though, I agree.
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>>164324436

You lucky sod. How much money did you sink into cosmetics to get this RNG, eh?
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thoughts on my skill tree?

it's a st non crit build
poeurl.com/Yuk
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>>164323215
why are you so slow then lying meta fag
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>>164326262
What?
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>>164325805

But why doesn't it add them both together? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to separate them anyway.
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>>164326018

I asked the same thing yesterday. You're gonna love the response.
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question regarding necromancer's beacon of ruin: If the caustic clouds of minions overlap, will it stack or just deal the damage of a single one?
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>>164327084
Damage of a single one.
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>>164326843
was it the guy who spent $800 or something like that?
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>>164326843
Did I ever respond? Some other guy said he spent hundreds of dollars, I've only spent about 100 dollars over a year, mostly on stash tabs.
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Why does the scourge double dip poison?
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>>164327595
because it makes minion damage count as just plain % increase damage, which double dips.
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>>164327595
Minion damage is one of the damage types that arbitrarily double dips.

It's down to tags.

A hit counts as minion damage. The poison from that hit also counts as minion damage.
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>>164327392
pity, read on the wiki it's affected by the %minion damage as well as linked gems to the according minion so that's something I guess
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>>164327595
scourge has shit dps so dont even think about it
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>>164327565

Ahh I guess I got rused then because there was a response that went like this >>164327513
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>>164326717
Because the DoT gets spread by Contagion, not the main hit and that is the pertinent information, not your consistent hitting on a single target which you probably won't even do anyways.
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>>164323961
>China
GGG has no shame crawling to such scum, at least I wont ever have to interact with them
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>>164327896
Imbecile
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If I really hate replaying the same zones (specifically act 1 and 2) should I give up? I got to level 45 but after changing difficulties I sort of lost interest. I thought maybe I'd have fun if I could find an interesting build but since it's my first time playing I don't know what skills are fun. I had a Reave build at the start which is the most sleep inducing build in the universe, then I found Blade Flurry which is kind of fun with the damage burst at the end.

I like the game except for redoing the first 2 acts. Also first arpg pls dont bully
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>first arpg

the fuck
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should i bother with a xirgils or stick with sword and board
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>>164329059
>lvl 45
>build

Most "builds" don't even come together until maps. Thats is 30-35 levels more and a fuckload of more gear. Just pick a skill you like and follow a guide that doesn't require you to go Chaos Inoculation and follow it through until you get level 80 or so.
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>breach with a soul eater rare
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>>164327513

For 800 quid that i wouldve spent, i would think its the very least RNG could do. For 800 quid i expect instant 6S/6L on the first jew/fuse, T1 uniques dropping like snow in Arctic, and good shit rolling in hard as fuck.

Considering that GGG does adjust droprates on the fly in general, and the "streamer RNG", it would not be surprising if those who sink in heavy cash and buy support packs do actually get RNG boost.
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>>164329349
Grew up with mmos and fps games instead of diablo 2

>>164329506
I was following one, I knew enough to at least do that. Its a reave or blade flurry ranger, guide said it was easy as fuck to play so I picked it. Basically comes down to walk in range, hold right click, move to next group, and resummon ice elemental when it gets low. Came here hoping somebody could save me from the nyquil with an interesting playstyle to use that's more...active. Though I admit the game might not be for me, I just want to try and enjoy it.
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>>164329459
if you aint leeching you are gonna need xirgils
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>>164330237
i'll have about 2k es regen a sec though
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>>164330179
This game is not for you right now.

Come back when Act 10 is introduced. The mundane crap you're talking about is supposed to not last more than a day to experienced player, I don't know how long you have spent leveling but you're definitely going too slow and steady and not killing groups efficiently.
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>>164330179

The issue I have here is that you're even using a guide on your first playthrough. I think it's best to just dive in and see what happens. When you hit the inevitable difficulty barrier that comes from your shitty beginners build you look at it and wonder why. Learning is the best feeling in this game for me because I realise something and think of a new build which tickles my autism even to this day having played the game (and genre) for so long.
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Noob here, if actually care about being "good" how many extra tabs do I need to buy.

Alternatively, how well can you play with only 4 tabs+mules
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>>164331007
has nothing to do with being good. It's just how many shit items you want to save and try to sell. If you don't care just clearout shit that doesn't sell and you'll always have room
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>want play game
>follow a guide that tells you exactly what to do and how and when
>complain the game is boring

the internet was a mistake
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>>164331007
One premium stash tab bundle and one currency stash tab are all you'll need, but inevitably you'll want more.

You can get one character to maps and map comfortably with just the default tabs. It's when you make a second character and you want to sell things off poe.trade that it becomes cancer.
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>>164331007
1 sell tab
1 red maps
1 shit maps
1 gear
1 currency tab
1 misc shit
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>>164329059
>>164330179
you can run through act 1 in under an hour, and through act 2 in under half an hour
just skip all side quests that don't reward you a book of skill, don't go out of your way to kill something, generally just run through everything and only start killing things once you are like 2 or 3 levels below the zone you are in
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>>164275219
hi snake anon pls post more snakes thanks
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>>164331118
What is terrible is the people here bullying new players just because they've played for years.
Almost like you want a dead game
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>>164326717
dps tooltips don't include secondary effects for consistency's sake, plus it's much more useful to know how much added damage you get from spamming ED for single target compared to fire and forget (also useful for calculating the benefits of poison)
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>>164330374
I have that problem where I fully explore a new map. I mean its probably normal first playthrough, right? I know there's tells for finding the correct direction to go but I don't know them yet and I usually just end up filling out the map because it feels good knowing I didn't miss anything. Steam says 30hrs but I don't know how much is actual playtime, I alt+tab a lot, like right now.

>>164330537
With that huge ass skill tree its wrong to use a buildguide the first time? I feel like if it wasn't for the guide I probably would still be trying to figure out how to approach that thing. I mean I still don't know what I want out of it or what most shit does, so it's not like I'm skipping much. The guide is basically "pick these traits and gems to make the most out of blade flurry."

>>164331118
I'm not shitting on your game, no need to get so defensive.

>>164331332
All right, like earlier in this reply, I did have that problem of wanting to full clear maps. I recognize the issue but I wasn't doing it on the replay of the zones so I feel like I might've solved that mostly already. I do need to figure out what quests besides the bandit one gives skill books though so I'll try that.
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there's literally nothing wrong with following a guide, there's so much to the game and so much to learn even an in depth guide for a build couldn't possibly hold your hand enough to make the game boring.

the only thing following a guide for your first playthrough does is eliminate that 20 hours of frustration you waste trying to do your own thing on your first character.
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>>164331007
the best thing by far is a currency tab.
apart from that, you don't actually need that much stash space. one or two tabs for maps are important, one tab for valuable items you want to sell, that's all you need. that leaves you with another spare tab that you can use to hoard shit like essences and divination cards, quality gems for the GCP recipe, and other random shit you want to keep around for whatever reason.
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>>164331595
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Quest_Rewards
wiki in general is a good thing, use it
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Is shaper stuff cheap as fuck because of elementalist golem summoner in softcore

>go into shaper
>suicide with 5 flame golems
>only thing that can damage golems is slam/autoattacks, and they have too much hp + regen to die
>repeat for each phase until dead

you know there has to be people in softcore doing this shit atm
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>>164331926
Sounds like something I'd do if I played SC desu
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>>164331926
>shit speed
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>>164331926
i dont know how it is in softcore, but in BHC the golem jewels are like 500-600c literally just for the jewels. For that budget in softcore you could easily make a character that could "faceroll" shaper after using 6 portals, unless you were actually brain dead and got hit by every slam.
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>>164331668
i would agree with you if this game was a final fantasy or bioware rpg thing

since what actually matters on those is the story you make the game tell you

but arpgs have no deep story or anything. its all about finding what works mechanically inside the game, and a when a guide just flat out tells you that, then what else is there to do to keep your brain from falling asleep?
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>>164331518

If you say so.

>>164331595

Wrong? No but I still maintain that it's better just to go ham on your own then look at resources as you'll be more familiar with what the guides are talking about and having played through at least the first difficulty without a guide means you'll know about quests and things they might reference.
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>>164332105
what i'm saying is there are so many mechanics at work simply having a skill tree, a list of uniques to get, and a list of skill gems to use could in no way make the game boring. there's simply too much to the game for a guide to list.
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>>164331595
check this out:
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Quest_Items#Books_of_Skill
that's all the skill books that exist in the game.

basically the only optional quests you should do are:
>the marooned mariner (act 1 fairgraves / get allflame from ship graveyard cave)
>the way forward (act 2 / activate seal in western forest)
>victario's secrets (act 3 / collect busts from slum sewers, warehouse sewers and market sewers)
>an indomitable spirit (act 4 / free deshret in the mines)

you should also do the medicine chest right at the beginning of act 1 because the quicksilver flask it gives you is super good, but you can also pool quicksilvers from other characters.
basically while leveling you should be using three quicksilver flasks, one life flask and one mana flask (if needed)

also remember that you can roll your quicksilvers with transmutes, alts and augs to get nice affixes like more total charges and longer effect duration.

another tip: you are likely picking up way too many items that do nothing but clog up your inventory and slow you down by making you portal to town all the time. for starters i recomment not picking up normal and magic items at all unless they have an RGB link setup (you can vendor that for a chrome), and only pick up rares if they are small (take up 4 or less inventory slots) - clogging up your bags with 8 slot axes is garbage and not worth the few alt shards you get from vendoring them. later you can limit the rares you pick up further to only belts (2 slots) and jewelry (rings, amulets, jewels - 1 slot only) - that way you still get a decent stream of alts and augs from vendoring rares, but they take up so much less inventory space that your clearspeed isn't impacted at all.
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>GGG only has 92 staff members

Holy shit
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>>164332718
>an RGB link setup (you can vendor that for a chrome)
I had actually just learned about this aspect of the game. I still pick up every yellow but it makes sense to just avoid the bigger ones so I'll start doing that. I found the loot filter thing as well which sort of helped me stop picking up everything.

Also 3 quicksilvers makes a lot of sense, I just kept the one and swapped out the HP flasks as they became more fancy even though I never used more than 1 HP flask.
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>>164333261

>ONLY 92
>they still can't make their game work properly
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>>164333261
>>164333698
>two are programmers
Really makes you think
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>>164333390
there's a ton of vendor recipes, many of which you can do while leveling, but not all are worth doing. you can find them all here: pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vendor_recipe_system

generally, in my opinion:
quality flasks for baubles is worth it
quality gems for GCPs is worth it
quality armor/weapons for scraps and whetstones isn't worth it

full rare set for orbs of chance isn't worth it, but once you get over level 60, you get an orb of chaos for this recipe (and from level 75 a regal orb), then it becomes worth doing if you are generally low on currency.

also, always pick up items with 6 sockets, they vendor for 7 jews each. and pick up 5link items, sometimes they can be sold to other players for a few chaos.
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Man, I love this game so much.

So much excellent fucking atmosphere and story. It gets me invested in it more then diablo ever could, and its story and lore is actually present in the mechanics. The fact that the entire plot revolves around the virtue gems, which are your entire character's build and growth throughout the game, is brilliant.

The fact that defensive items are actually supposed to grow and advance on your character based on your primary attributes is a nice change of pace to the more slapshod games wheres it's just based on stats. I also love how each primary stat type has a different and very fitting form of defense; if it be tanky armor, dodging with evasion, or mystic energy shield WHICH ACTUALLY ENCOURAGES YOU TO PLAY LIKE A WIZARD AND RUN AWAY

The fact that standard potion drops have been replaced with refillable flasks is great. It's just another way to spec out your character and while at low levels it seems silly at higher levels you can put in all kinds of flasks.

I love how without using gold the entire game has a real economy based on bartering. I love that a player can exchange some alteration orbs for a chaos orb, simply because they are useful at all levels of play and anyone can slowly accumulate or craft them. I love all the cryptic but actually useful vendor recipes. The first time I traded in a full set of rares for some good orbs I was blown away.

What a fantastic, great, awesome game. Not even being ironic, not shilling, I just think it's that good. It brought me out of my game-slump that I've been going on for a long time and I seriously dreaded working this news years instead of going to work, because I wanted to beat Dominus.

Thank you GGG for making an actual good, enjoyable, addictive game and keeping it up to date.
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didn't read your blog
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>>164333941
>So much excellent fucking atmosphere and story. It gets me invested in it more then diablo
tf
The diablo lore was much better
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>>164333261
>>164333775
>92 staff members
>chris wilson, two programmers, and 89 modelers who spend all day making cosmetics to sell on the shop
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>tfw been waiting to buy currency tab on sale, but my currency tab is totally full now
;_; maybe I'll cave
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>>164334125
>The diablo lore was much better

>Diablo lore
>Christian mythology but not really
>DUDE MY GREATER AND LESSER EVILS
>Angelic good guys don't do anything
>No indication of how these people lived before the evils started coming
>Evil has come to the world and *brave heroes*tm have to save it

>Path of Exile lore
>Exiled to an entire fucking forsaken continent, you realize why
>Actually Exiled for a reason though, for Piety's grand work
>Multiple societies of the past explain the ancient ruins and catacombs everywhere
>All have the same reason for falling, and your society is currently falling as well due to not learning from the mistakes of the past
>Your enemies are humans, not generic edgy demons, and you have to be powerful and skilled to actually defeat them and save the world
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The game is pretty good in contrary what uzbekistani goat shaving forum denizens say about it, but you cant have an opinion like that around here.
fucking GGGIDF reddit shill
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"kripp secret build" is just a fucking max block memefurry gladiator ?
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Will you guys run shit red maps if it's all you got, or go down to yellows?
I mean like not linear tons of backtracking shit type maps
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kripp? more like krapp
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how does profane bloom interact with AC?
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>Transmutation orbs
>only usable once per item unless scoured, not very valuable
>stacks of 40

>Alteration orbs
>Can be used many times per item and often are to reroll good item qualities
>Valuable in open market
>stacks of 20

Hmmmmmmmmmm.
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>>164335341
he said something like "effective hp" so i'm guessing its hybrid, so i don't think duelist is on the cards but who knows, it has become a meme at this point; it is the half life 3 of poe builds
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>>164335567
pointless
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>>164335883
>make players have little storage space
>make loads of items in tiny stacks
>sell extra space to players

really makes one think
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This non-CI flicker strike slayer build I got going is fantastic .. until I get hit.
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>>164334125

Up until the end of LoD, yeah for sure.
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>>164336303
whats your defensive set up?
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>>164336245

Well, Chris does have that BSc in Finance.

So PoE, appart from being the game they claimed to love and make and all that crap, is also their job. Business and pleasure combined.

And now that they are getting TenCent, and chinchong market, well, they live quite nicely. Shame about the game though...
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>standard
>half-decent leather belts 1c minimum
>new league
>90+ hp rolls 1 alch
A fresh start might not be that bad after all
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>>164335883
they decided these things like 5 years ago
and have not once considered revisiting these things

ggg is smrt
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What's the point of cloth belts?
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>>164336323
Yeah I don't know any of the lore post LOD, so that's what I'm referencing. I played through the campaign twice so far in poe and the lore just seemed sort of "meh"
Like it took a backseat
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>>164336303
Hey I am also playing a non-CI flicker strike slayer
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>>164335525
i'd rather go down to running tier 8 than run a single crematorium
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How do I play doomfletch inquisitor?
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Is everyone in the discord autistic?
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>>164337427
>Is everyone on vg autistic
yes
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>>164337427
>>164337484

Ofcourse yes, what did you expect?

I avoid it like plague.
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>>164337346
get maxblock with rearguard and maxdodge with hinekora's sight
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You guys realize that without bots the economy would fall apart because nobody bothers with the lesser recipes but wants to use that currency?
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>>164337658
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I really want to like this game, but I can't seem to get into the genre. I'm too worried about getting completely gimped mid-way through the game and having to restart if I use a build I make myself, so I always end up using a build guide. this usually leaves me with nothing to do except to grind, which is boring. should I give up on trying to enjoy these kinds of games?
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The returns tho
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>>164338620
I think the best thing to do in your situation would be to try to have some friends that also play the game. You then can ask them what would be good. Also just playing the game and reading guides will develop your understanding to make builds that are viable.
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>>164338620
go play stuff that isnt a skinnerbox
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>>164338620
Dunno man

The only advice I can offer, completely unironically, is to git gud. Theorycrafting is half the fun, but if you want the freedom to really push the limits you need to be able to do things for yourself.

I mean, half the point is to grind, but it comes with an aspect of catharsis, which is important. If you aren't getting that catharsis, at all, then yeah the genre might just not be for you.
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how the frickin frick do i obtain NEMESIS MONSTERS DROP ADDITIONAL CURRENCY. six gorrillion red sextants down the shitter and i havent seen it once. do people sell these? what channel do i sit in to find a seller?
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>>164338971
Get rid of useless mods using yellow/white nearby sextants to increase the chance
If a sextant is touching a map, any other map in the radius around that map is unable to receive the same sextant as a map can't be affected by 2 of the same sextant at once
You'll eventually get it and then be able to sell spots for like 25c per for a total of 375c
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>it takes Aids +4 gem levels, an entire tree and ascendancy built around it, and a dedicated 4l warcry to start feeling not utter shit to use

kinda shitty knowing i could have spent half the currency on something else that would have worked 10x better
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>>164338971
Only available with Master Sextant
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>>164279091
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>>164340293
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>>164340293
>anime
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>>164338971
got it on my first, git gud
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>>164340407
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>>164340720
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>>164340864
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>>164340919
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>>164340031
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>>164338620
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>>164340991
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>>164341187
?
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>animefaggot starts posting
>sub goes to shit

can you faggot weebs go five seconds without ruining everything you touch?
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>>164341356
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>>164341441
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>we have added alt tooltips that explain keywords
Thanks Chris.


>>164283679
>>164283804
Do you realize that quest reward jewels have item level of 1?
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fucking bladeflurry is so BORING, off to try my first facebreaker build, gl me
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>>164341524
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got bored of my flameblaster and tried leveling a shield charge facebreaker but holy shit the size of the AOE is horrendous.

This has been the most annoying leveling experience ive had in a while, and its not even slow.

is the only way to do facebreakers with slayer? i literally felt better using infernal blow and melee splash vs. cyclone/shield charge
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>>164341664
not until after i vendored.
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>>164316103
>using astramentis over a good rare

scrubs baka
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So I just did a non-beyond map and Tzteosh spawned. I'm guessing it was a voidspawn bloodline mod? Didn't even realize it until huge flameblast circles started popping up
How rare is that bloodline anyway?
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>>164341959
lots of people just do whatever guides tell them to
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>>164341736
?
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>>164342213
>I'm guessing it was a voidspawn bloodline mod?

yes

>How rare

not that rare. if you do bloodlines maps you are bound to find one every couple maps on average
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>>164331332
Rerolled into Shadow to get away from that Ranger build I had and to test this out to see if I enjoy it more. I'm going slow still right now but I feel like I might be ok with it. Took about 40m to get through act 1 and I know it can be done faster, now the test is whether I still hate act 2 doing this.

>>164332151
Also attempting to not look up builds even though it pains me not knowing whether what I'm picking is good or not. Going to keep trying out a bunch of different skills as I see them but these chaos DoTs seem like a fun option.

After getting passed the people thinking I was trolling, it might've turned out that you guys helped. I'm at least interested again. Thanks.
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This train just doesn't stop holy shit
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>>164342919
>shaped mud geyser
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>>164342919
why is sustaining red maps noteworthy these days?
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>>164343109
It has good breaches senpai

Tunneltrap hasn't been dangerous since like 2.0.0
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>>164342573
>now the test is whether I still hate act 2 doing this.

act 2 is super short if you know the proper order
>get to forest encampment
>go east, run through old fields straight to crossroads, get crossroads waypoint
>keep going east to broken bridge, kill kraityn
>tp to town, use waypoint to get to crossroads again
>go north to chamber of sins and clear it
>tp to town, go west through riverlands (get checkpoint) and on into western forest
>go to end of road, kill blackguards, activate seal for quest, then kill alira (camp is in the woods somewhere), then kill the weaver (cave entrance is surrounded by web wood, impossible to miss)
>tp back to riverlands, go north into wetlands, kill oak, get checkpoint
>tp to town, turn in quest shit
>tp back to wetlands, go through vaal ruins, go through northern forest, go into ancient pyramit, clear pyramid and kill vaal oversoul

and that's it
shortest act in the game, and all the bosses are easy, too.
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>mfw trying the labyrinth for the first time
Sure I'm a scrub but I have so many fucking problems with this, first there's the shitton of things you have to read before the fight to know what's going on.
Then there's retarded amount of health that Izaro himself has.
Then there's the "start from beginning" every time you die, which means you can't even practice fighting properly because it takes minutes to reach him.
Then there's the damage of his attacks, I got about 1.125 hp on normal and I still get instakilled by him.
Then as a cherry on the top there's the crowd of skeletons that he summons which just make navigating the arena a hassle.

If your build doesn't include an aoe attack you've basically hit an impassable wall.

Should melee character NOT run from him to prevent triggering his aoe ranged attacks?
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>>164343912
Your build needs to include an aoe attack to actually play the game.
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>>164343912
>If your build doesn't include an aoe attack you've basically hit an impassable wall.
you can get carried for the ascendancy points
but your build has way bigger problems in pretty much all other directions of content if you don't have an aoe attack.
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>only play the game hardcore league
>Finally get to Dominus the first time, never fought him before
>Manage to get through the first phase through the skin of my teeth and skill
>Having a lot of fun
>Second phase
>Be doing really well until EDGY DARKNESS ATTACK
>Mash heal and resistance flask
>Try to run behind cover
>Try to attack him
>Nothing
>Nothing
>Nothing
>Die

Fuck you.
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>>164343912
Melee does not exist in PoE
You either use a physical spell that clears the whole screen or a physical skill that clears half the screen
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>>164344306
you have to hug him :^)
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>>164344007
>>164344385
>duelist tank using claws
>can't use 90% of the strength aoe gems
>izaro summons don't drop bodies so detonate dead is useless
So what I have to use a melee dex skill? Traps?

So far I have been able to play using a tanky build without a problem, ancestral protector totem NORMALLY mows down everything in sight and I use dominating blow to deal with crowds.

Izaro is the only boss I'm stuck on, all the others have been a cakewalk.
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>>164344550
Oh yeah dominating blow ALSO doesn't work on his skeletons.
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>>164344550
play cyclone
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>>164344476

Yeah, I realized that after I spent hours upon hours on my hardcore character not reading anything online. It wasn't obvious enough that was the solution to that attack, and I paid the price for trying to play the game blind and not spoiling it for myself.

Now I'm salty.
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>tfw I caved and finally bought currency tab
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>>164344550
whats your level and how far into the game are you
izaro is pretty much the hardest encounter in the entire game, comparable to the final boss of act 4
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>>164344550
use earthquake or sunder or anything dude
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>>164344550


why do you need to do lab right as you unlock it? you can just skip it and do it later when you are more confident
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>>164344385
>>164344007
>>164344056
You see what makes me mad isn't even the fact that I die more than once to him, what makes me mad is WHY would they design a fight like this, why cull so much build variety in favour of retarded skill designs that you'd expect to see on diablo 3?

WHY?
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>>164344915
you're mad because you are having a hard time with him, and since you're new to the game, you don't understand just how many fun, diverse, and interesting builds there are that are completely different and equally viable.
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>>164344760
>buys a tab meant to store ginormous currency stacks
>has no currency

>>164344915

people are just telling what accomplished lab runs EASIEST

but any build can do lab. fuck i only run non-fotm shit like forever and i have no problem doing lab. JUST GIT GUD
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>>164344306
if you can't handle learning-by-dying then you should seriously just play softcore.
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>>164344550
>Duelist Claw Tank
>with Detonate Dead
>And Dominating Blow

You've taken the 'anything is possible!' thing too literally. Fact of the matter is, pretty much anything can clear normal up to A3, usually A4 as well, but Izaro is fairly difficult and often a speedbump that filters out the builds which are just meh or slow starters from the builds which outright won't work.

The build you are playing has hit a speed bump because it is garbage. This is natural and tends to happen on your first couple of playthroughs while you're still learning how the game works.

Claws are a fairly bad weapon choice for a first build, all told. Try using Blade Flurry or Reave, though, and pick up Whirling Blades as soon as you can. Izaro is more about being able to dodge his attacks than facetanking, because his anime swordwave is pretty lethal and isn't supposed to be taken on the chin.

Moreover, I think you have misjudged how the game works from the ground up. All builds are tanks, all builds are dps. There ARE dedicated support builds, but you need more mechanical knowledge to play them, and doing so also makes you a massive cuck. For a build to be considered successful, it needs to have good damage AND survivability - No real taunt mechanics or typical MMO party compositions. How exactly you achieve the two varies greatly, but those are the specifications.

Hope this helped.
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>>164345105
I had over 1 tab filled with just currency
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>>164344915
all those shitty adds during bossfights mainly exist to give you a way to restore flask charges.
they also have super low hp and barely deal any damage.
i can understand having problems with the lab, but if your build is having problems with the fucking trash mobs on normal izaro of all things, you might want to reconsider your skill choices.
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>>164344915
>why cull so much build variety
izaro is one of the few places in the game where single target melee damage isn't half bad
everything else in the game except for atziri and shaper favor range, aoe, and spells far more.
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>>164345054
No really I'm not mad because I'm having a hard time with him, I'm mad because apparently all builds revolve around aoe skill gems to the point where they all look like semi magic classes.

>>164345160
That's not my normal build, I picked detonate the dead literally to just test it on this boss. Dominating blow I picked because it has a low mana cost and I linked fortify and endurance charges to it so I normally have a huge damage reduction.

>all builds are tanks, all builds are dps
Where's the fun on that?
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>>164344915
Izaro is actually a fairly well designed fight that has a lot of variation day-to-day, and I think you need to rethink your opinions on what constitutes good design, senpai, because they're dumb

Just because you can't do it doesn't mean it is bad.
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>>164345581
>Where's the fun on that?

I don't understand the question.

As I said, where exactly your damage and survivability comes from varies immensely, but you don't just say 'I'm playing a tank' because a build that can eat hits but not kill anything is not a build, it's garbage. Likewise, a build that can deal infinite deeps but dies to a white skeleton mob is garbage.

Every build has the same goal: Kill stuff without getting killed. HOW they do that is where build variety comes in, and there are a great many playstyles that are available and viable, and a lot more which require a little effort but work just fine if you give them enough love.
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>>164345581
see it this way:

modern arpgs have all shifted towards a more arcade-y feel where the game encourages you to kill as many shit as possible in as little time as possible

this is the clearspeed meta people talk about. its not just poe. D3 is the same. the popular mods Torchlight 2 has turn in into a clearspeed arpg, and Grim Downs has an expansion just about clearspeed. etc

this is how the genre works atm. if you want more paused combat where single target skills matter more, youll probably find what you like on CRPGs or third person action rpgs like dragons dogma
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>>164345784
>fairly well designed
>hits his hp trigger
>stays around for 40seconds and throws out 5more onehit kill attacks before finally fucking off
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>>164345581
>I'm mad because apparently all builds revolve around aoe skill gems to the point where they all look like semi magic classes.

i'm gonna be honest with you - you won't like PoE at all. "melee" in PoE effectively boils down to some variety of player-based-AoE spellcaster whose spells are vaguely based on the weapons he uses.
the closest thing to actual melee combat that is viable in PoE is probably some variation of a cyclone build, or a flicker striker.

>Where's the fun on that?
the game isn't designed around intricate party play, but around solo play. if your build is gonna be viable then it has to be able to survive on its own and kill things on its own.
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Flicker strike is technically a single target melee skill
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>>164345784
>you can't do it
I could pick any of those cookie cutter builds play through the whole fucking game without a problem. The question is why would I want to do this, where the fun of that? If I wanted something pre-made pre-designed I'd just be playing diablo 3 which revolves completely around playing pre-made builds in the form of item sets.


I literally just had this mad idea, this mad impression that a game with with that huge ass skill tree and and a fuckload of active skills wouldn't be so restrictive on what builds are actually viable. Crazy concept, I know.
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>>164345581
>apparently all builds revolve around aoe skill gems to the point where they all look like semi magic classes
There are AoE skills that don't look like outright "magic", like Earthquake and Cyclone. Which are both very viable at the endgame.

But yeah, the main thing why AoE is king is that much more often you need to clear a ton of trash mobs and a well supported AoE skill is effective also for bosses. Hell, it can be as simple as having increased AoE for mobs and swapping it for concentrated effect when needing single target damage.

You will also want to have one single skill as your main damage dealer, at most two in some builds for the mobs/single target thing.

Since you mentioned fortify, link it instead to Whirling Blades, or to another movement skill of your choice.

>Where's the fun on that?
Because much more often you will be playing and doing all the content alone.
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>>164346056
if his green aoe oneshots you, you where simply underprepared for the fight or didnt bother to undo his buffs on previous stages

absolutely nothing forced you to do lab as soon as you unlock it.
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>>164346056
This actually annoys me desu.
Rest of the fight is cool
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>>164346136
>tfw the fotm cyclone right now is a fire mage build on the ranged character
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>>164346178
It isn't restrictive. You're just bad. You need an AOE ability to i don't know.... do bosses where you hit more than 1 target. If you want to limit yourself then don't cry about it
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>>164346178
>I literally just had this mad idea, this mad impression that a game with with that huge ass skill tree and and a fuckload of active skills wouldn't be so restrictive on what builds are actually viable. Crazy concept, I know.

literally EVERY build can do normal lab

you are just bad m8
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>>164346169
>technically
????
It only strikes 1 target at a time, there's nothing to discuss about that
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>>164346178
m8

Normal Izaro does not require a cookie cutter build.

It barely even requires a build. I wasn't even trying to be mean. Normal Izaro can be beaten by most players without assigning any skill points, using the default attack. That early on, the game isn't restrictive at all on which builds are viable, and that restriction doesn't actually appear until you hit merciless difficulty, maybe cruel A4.

>Why have options if some are better than others!

This is not an argument, this is idiocy that completely misses the point.
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>>164346385
>every build can do lab normal
How do they do it then?
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Is this still a decent build for a new player? I just want to be an archer.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1041989
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>>164346385
ok do normal lab with a Vaal DD + Riposte + Vengeance character
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>>164346520
Yeah it will be fine. Literally any build guide usually will be fine for a new player. It's only whne you start randomly using skill points you go full retard. Even if it's not as good as it used to be, it'll be fine
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>>164346495
>This is not an argument, this is idiocy that completely misses the point.
That entire argument is the reason for D3s design choices. People will tend towards the meta at all times.
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>>164346056
Got me there, I'll admit, but that's more due to outright limitations. He doesn't leave until all his mechanics have spawned, even if the fight finishes a fraction of a second after the last one spawns.
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>>164346178
>I literally just had this mad idea, this mad impression that a game with with that huge ass skill tree and and a fuckload of active skills wouldn't be so restrictive on what builds are actually viable. Crazy concept, I know.

that huge ass skill tree and fuckload of active skills result in thousands of possivle viable builds. at the same time it also results in millions of garbage builds that simply don't work.
PoE gives the player a huge set of pieces and tools and says "use these however you want". it is up to the player to use them in a way that actually works.

also, you are throwing in the towel a bit too quickly here. there are builds that manage to use dominating blow and be successful. there are uses for detonate dead. there are builds that use claws as their primary weapon type (blade vortex builds are super fucking good at the momend)

the skills are functional, there are ways to make them work. but being a claw-wielding dominating blow user with detonate dead as a secondary skill apparently isn't among them.
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>>164346178
It only gets restrictive around cruel or merciless, and especially so in higher tier maps. Cookie cutter builds exist because someone, often a popular streamer devised a build to do endgame content almost effortlessly.
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imagine being a new poe player in 2017 LOL
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>>164346518

1. make sure you are overgeared for it
2. make sure you have SOME form of defenses and your flasks are level-apropiate
3. make sure you dont let izaro get too buffed
4. just like, hit him until he leaves the room and shit

>>164346538

i could try that. but then, you do realize i could just kill him with autoattacks if it was a matter of proving a point? people have killed him on zero-skill point runs just to show it was possible
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Wasnt malachai beaten by a naked unskilled character except for a weapon
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A level 50 character can do normal lab with a white weapon, level 1 unlinked blight, or even literally never attacking and letting reflect from body armor kill him.
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>>164346804
It's only bad if you're a new player and come here for help
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>>164346520
i played this in perandus league and it was fine back then. since then they didn't change much about the skills that are involved, so it still works.

from what i remember, leveling was pretty smooth except for izaro and malachai, and mapping was easy too.
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>>164346949
this aint reddit

no one is harvesting upvotes so people will tire of you quickly if you are too dumb to take a hint
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>>164340227
still surprised they managed to get away with such depiction in a video game, even made better since it's never made a big deal of,
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>>164346717
Again I don't use detonate the dead, the main skill I use for damage is ancestral protector with attack speed and physical damage support gems. It basically mows down everything close to it, BUT I obviously can't target it at anything specific.

Besides one of the questions I made on my first post wasn't answered, do his normal attacks do a significantly smaller damage than his ranged ones?
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>>164347093
>take a hint

>poe wiki literally devoid of tons of information and when you ask a question everyone else knows since you've played for a week they'll tell you to fuck off or stfu
haha xd
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>>164346654
Still missing the point.

There are literally hundreds of viable builds. Not all of them are on the same level, but there are hundreds which will allow you to see everything in the game, even if you aren't getting 2 minute Shaper kills with them.

There are also builds which pretty much won't work, or will require too much investment to be viable on any reasonable level. When you have so many variables, the number of good builds is really high, but inversely, the number of garbage builds is equally high, and that's fine.
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>>164347261
99.99% of questions asked here could literally be answered by reading the wiki or simply the gem tags

we still have people asking if spell damage affects minions, etc. have you tried opening the tree and reading what different nodes do?
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Whats a good starforge build
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>>164346598
>Literally any build guide usually will be fine for a new player

lmao
most guides are completely useless for new players

>this is a cheap build, can be done with just ~3EX worth of gear, and only needs these two specific uniques to function!
>before doing this build you need level 75, then buy a bunch of ES gear and around 50 regrets to respec out of your leveling tree and into CI!
>totally a beginner friendly budget build!
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>>164347404
Animate Guardian
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>>164347261
Most of the questions that get answered with fuck off can be easily answered by common sense, are available on the wiki, or are literally stated in game.

Don't be a fucking retard and you won't get called a fucking retard
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>>164347418
>ok to level just pick up *completely different skill* and go through the game
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>>164347418
the good guides have options of budget gear on every slot that it can spare

build-enabling uniques cant be skipped, but they are often not that expensive (any "beginner" build that ask for a shavs or similar is simply not a beginner build)
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>>164347231
>do his normal attacks do a significantly smaller damage than his ranged ones?

no idea
when i last played a melee build the lab didnt exist

what i know that his special sword slash (where he slashes the air and shoots these short ranged air wave things towards you) does a fuckton of damage, so you probably shouldn't try facetank that. same applies to the hail of green fire bombs hat he occasionally throws at you, and to his leaping slam attack.
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why tf does my item filter always go nuts with 5links
they are always vendor trash
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>>164347418
Yeah, he's wrong about any build guide being fine, most of them are garbage.

Neversink's guides are usually okay though. Has budget options.
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>>164346804
right

this game has been out for five years
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>>164347645
Most bosses on this game have a ranged and a melee behavior, if you facetank their attacks they normally do reduced damage and only make their onehitkill moves very few times. It's the single reason why I managed to use a single target melee build so far.
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>WAAH WHY CANT I FIGHT SHAPER WITH ALL WHITE GEAR WITH NO LINKS
jesus christ the thread is going full retard right now. sorry your horribly thought out build with no thought put towards the mechanics of the game can't do everything in the game the moment it becomes available.
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>>164347820
pretty sure elementalist can do that right now
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>>164347418
The only thing to keep in mind is that what is presented in a guide, for whatever reason, in general much better than what you can expect to achieve as a new player. But if you're so new you can't fathom grinding 3ex worth of currency, you shouldn't get mad that a build guide explicitly tells you that should be the entry cost. There are a lot of guides that use 1 alch weapons and work up until maps with a 4-link though, so the claim that there aren't resources catering to true new players is completely false.
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>Running maps just to clear space
>Keep dropping more maps

Help
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>>164347820
fuck u
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>>164347612
just saying, most builds on the forums aren't useful to a beginner at all

when i came back for breach league i checked out witch forums, found this thread
>beginner friendly ignite flameblast elementalist
started reading through it
>btw don't bother playing this without doryanis catalyst and an eye of chayula :^)

i did it anyway and eventually made it work - got two lucky exalt drops in act 3 merc, then i could afford getting the uniques and a half-decent vaal regalia. but i'm a 3 year poe veteran, any actual new player would probably kill himself before reaching the point where he can make shit like this work
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>>164347956
stop picking white and yellows up you nig
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>>164347956
Run your highest tier map at any point available
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>>164347923
Some stupid vaal dd + vaal breach + vortex shit could probably manage to do enough damage to clear dried lake, barely. but anything harder than that would legitimately just kill you because you wouldn't have any defenses at all.
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>>164348059
>tfw running out of all red maps and now my highest map is like t9
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>>164348001
>most builds on the forums aren't useful to a beginner at all
>here's a cherry picked one that isn't
Just because one guide features false advertisement (knowingly or not) doesn't make it the standard. What about that Firestorm's beginner build? Advertised as SSF viable and actually SSF viable, because surprise, Firestorm deals great damage and only needs a 4-link to carry you into maps.
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>>164348214
i know that actual newb friendly guides exist
but the original claim i replied to stated
>Literally any build guide usually will be fine for a new player.
which is simply not true
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>want to play Scion
>go on the forums to look up for guides
>front page hasn't moved in 2 weeks
poptarts?
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>>164348384
Scion is fucking shit now
It's the "jack of all trades" So it will be worse than any other class at w.e build it is. You can play it for muh waifu but it will always be worse
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>>164348384
>want to play dead class
>surprised the dead class has dead forums
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>>164348384
The highlight of scion ascendancies is to pretend to be another class just without their actual ascendancy
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>>164348341
If it allows a new player to reach maps, it should be considered successful imo. At that point, a new player would have acquired a basic grasp of game mechanics, encountered some pitfalls they would hopefully try to avoid in the future. The expectation here being that they begin to start experiencing end-game content (maps), not that they reach the highest tier of content on the first try.
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>>164348384
There's a resident Scion autist that play life essence drain every league that's probably lurking in this thread RIGHT now.
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>>164348384
before ascendancy scion was ok
but ascendancy made everybody else super strong while the scion ascendancy is very mediocre
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welp my bf howa raider just ripped, what should i reroll?

animate weapon looks interesting or maybe ea pathfinder...
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How much money do we need to pay before the servers stop disconnecting me?
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>>164348642
>animate weapon looks interesting
gay playstyle, requires a specific loot filter and is generally annoying to play since it relies on momentum to start destroying content
>ea pathfinder...
cookie cutter and gay single target damage

play ignite vortex elementalist
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>>164348642
another howa raider haha xd
What skill did you use though? Was it a lot of fun/good?
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>>164348595
Scion was really strong when lab was released thanks to combining Berserker with something else
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>make a righteous fire abberath's hooves build
>expect abberath's hooves to still be the outrageous but doable 100-120c
>there's only one up for 600c
>all future boots will see this retards price and put it at 600c

fucking bullshit, why did GGG make these new level 12 boots seemingly T1 rarity.
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>>164348384
Ascendencies are incredibly powerful, and a lot of the late game content is balanced around them. All of the ascendencies have at least something they do that makes them really good for one type of build.

Except Scion. Her ascendency is basically "Some of the words are the same" for other ascendencies. Instead of getting premium travel nodes, she gets attributes or a passive point. She has to spend 3 ascendency points to get a benefit that's universally worse than any 2 point node that other classes get. Other classes have a bunch of options of nodes of varying levels of power that inherently change the gameplay in some respect. Scion gets stats.

Scion is a jack of all trades who is more of a deuce than a jack while other classes get to be aces at one thing, in a game that's designed around hyper specialization.
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>>164349198
rarity doesn't dictate market price, look at windripper or mjolner

it's expensive because supply < demand, simple
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>>164349198
Someone posted an abberaths VMS build on reddit that oneshot a guardian
So everyone tries to copy it now
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>>164349434
>look at mjolnir

I don't want to

It's too sad
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>>164340419
>>164341401
ban these anti anime redditors chris
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Whats the best build to kill shaper?
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>>164349712
BV
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Whats the magic behind BF CwC BV/BF
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>>164349839
poison double dipping
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>>164348059
but that's wrong....

Run all maps at the end of a white/yellow until you begin dropping the next level up. Once you've amassed enough of the next 'tier' vendor the rest.

don't begin running reds until you've got maybe 8-10 in the bag
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How many Grand Spectrums do I need until they're better than a yellow jewel in each socket? 11?
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>>164349536
it was VRF, and thats why its fucking bullshit, because people were doing the same shit last league and probably before that too, you can take literally any fire build and socket in VRF and one shot any boss in the game, the boots had nothing to do with it.
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>>164349267
>she cant hold W and win

i fixed your post
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>>164349434
but those WERE tier 1 uniques that went for exalts that both got nerfed into oblivion.

Nobody in my guild of 6 people have dropped them, I don't know anyone who has. I personally have played at least 12 hours a day every single day this league and I haven't dropped them. They are simply that rare.
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>>164350256
>all characters hold W and win
>except scion

pretty good test to conclude scion sucks in a game that's all about holding W to win
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>Starforge
>700dps weapon that drops from the currently ultimate boss of the game
>cheap as shit
why?
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>>164350453
>no elemental damage
take a guess
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>>164350453
>No elemental damage

I mean, it's good, but Disfavour is vastly better.
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>>164350653
because flaskslut has to be the best ascendency in the game at all times
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>>164350653
>ranger
>males
LOL
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>>164350070
depends, a yellow jewel can rack up like 30-40% increased damage with tri mods

4*x*x > y*x
4*x^2 - y*x > 0

where y = average damage per yellow jewel

<--
4*x^2 - 30*x > 0

5 grand spectrums are equal to 5*20% damage jewels
8 grand spectrums are better than 8* 30% damage jewels
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>>164350653
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>>164350653
Scion thought the secret to getting ascendency buffs was having short hair. She didn't realize it was all about the carpet munching
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>>164350764
by 2016 feminist rules, a lesbian getting fucked by a black man is actually a sublime effort against the evil white patriarchy so it's all good
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>>164350653
This isn't the Karui that I know...
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>>164350764
>>164350860
>>164350887
?
Are you guys implying that the ranger is a dyke
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>>164351024
No need to imply, she is a lesbian.
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>>164351024
she canonically is
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>>164351121
>>164351139
where is the proof
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>>164351272
in merveil's caverns, exiles are guided by apparitions of the opposite sex tempting them

witch and scion gets male apparitions
ranger gets female ones
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>>164351272
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>>164351272
>Witch on killing Mervil
"Poor Mervil, twas love that did this to you."

>Ranger on killing Mervil
"Poor fishwife, love for a man did this to you." (Or something to that effect.)
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does the explosion from infernal blow add any damage sources you have, like flat phys etc or is it just the health percentage as damage
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Padding silently through the dark forest, the lithe and stealthy ranger is at home. Long eschewing the company of men, she has turned her affections to the deep and wild wilderness, and she travels alone. Her time out away from the comfortable trappings of civilization has hardened her body and her spirit.
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duelist will never get to fuck piety
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>>164351653
>None of us will
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>try to buy an item
>in a map :^)

Fucking kill yourself if you do this shit.
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>>164352839
i do this shit
not gonna waste a portal for a 1c trade
if it's a 10ex trade then the buyer never has an issue waiting anyway
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>>164352839
are you by any chance a woman
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>>164352941
dont list shit if you dont want to spent time selling it
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>>164352839
If I've already left the map like 3-4 times I'll say I'm busy because I can't be fucked
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rest in piece
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>>164352839
I don't this shit because I just ignore you instead.
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>>164353001
i do want to spend time selling it but it doesn't mean I will lose a tp for it.
imo the worst thing is when you get a message to buy and item and you immoderately invite the guy and then tp out to grab the item so you can be back in your map in 10sec
but
the buyer spammed 20 sellers and ignores you so you have to relist your item and wasted a portal for nothing
kys
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If only there was a way to make it possible for people to buy items without forcing to seller to leave his map
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Do people really enjoy doing nothing but shaped strand
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>>164353095
The essence of an empire must be shared EQUALLY amongst all of its citizens
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hey guys, playing a HOWA ST build and for some reason I am always running out of mana, even with .8% leech from the tree. any advice?
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>>164353576
more damage = more leechj
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>>164353628
fair point, i'm sitting at 16k with GMP and 8 charges and still can't sustain it though. am I just too low?
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>>164353576
What level are you? if you're still leveling it should get better later
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>>164353392
Only people with severe autism, mostly
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>>164353678
are you still leeching when you run out?

if you are it's because you arent leeching fast enough and should increase your mana
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>boot up game
>run 5 maps
>bored
>close game

anime_girl_laying_in_bed_with_her_eyes_closed.jpg
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>>164353392
Your post reminded me that Zana has been standing around for over an hour waiting for me to go to Strand and kill some corrupted monsters. Thanks mate
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>>164353805
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>>164353685
75.

I'm about to get essence sap just for the mana on hit because i'm so tired of it.

>>164353790
yeah I am, okay thanks i'll try that. any good big notables for mana around witch/shadow/ranger to go for?
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>2nd atziri run drops a catalyst
>40 runs later its still my only one

What the fucks the drop rate on this goddamn scepter?
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>>164353909
I'm assuming you picked up mind drinker from the shadow area but there isn't much else up there, only good nodes to assist mana leech are in ranger or duelist
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>>164353576
>>164353909
just level as blade flurry desu, I went all the way til fucking 92 as HoWA blade flurry. ST is superior late game for the clear speed and just general advantage of a projectile but blade flurry is best for levelling.
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>>164354318
thinking about revelry in duelist (went there for unwavering), that should do it right?

>>164354485
yeah but bladeflurry is just so ugh. might use it for bosses maybe
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>>164354285
speaking of doryanis
whats the best build for dual wielding doryanis
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>>164354679
poeurl.com/Yw6

this is my current tree right now.
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>cycloned on abandoned dam boss

Mistakes were made
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>Maps show remaining monsters in upper right if you hit tab
>Regular game doesn't

GGG????
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>running fragments to try to complete a set
>3 in a row have dropped gems

Kill me, please.
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>tfw running nothing but yellow maps because I can't sustain red
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>greentext blogging no one gives a shit about
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when's the next league

>ES is still better than Life
>Armour and evasion are still garbage
>one-shot difficulty
>melee is STILL shit
>like 4/5 skills are complete garbage
>no trade system
>retarded drop system
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>commenting on greentext blogs nobody cares about
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Hey can anyone hook me up with a whispering ice witch skill tree? Just found one and I think I'm gonna try it out
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>>164355878
reddit: the post
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:^)
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>>164355965
under-fucking-rated post.
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there's like a 2 FPS difference between max and lowest settings, and no matter what I do I drop to 20 FPS when too much is going on on the screen. The fuck am I doing wrong?
1050 ti, fx8350, 8gb ram.
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>>164355943
poeurl.com/Yxf

Test mine for me, lemme know how it turns out.
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>>164355842
You do enough to reply :)
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>>164356109
What gem setup are you running?

I decided to paste it over my current WI build in path of building and all that happened is I gained 300 ES while losing over 2k damage. Is there any reason you don't take the jewel spot by unwavering stance?

If you tell me your gem setup maybe I can look at it differently since I run a +1curse ring and convert to fire ring while you take avatar of fire
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>>164356054
You could try poesmoother but the problem is the game.
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>>164356473
Gonna be running dual Perandus signets and a cold to fire gem in my WI as well as going elementalist with a cold and fire golem to double dip on liege of primordial. I didn't take the jewel at unwavering cause im fucking retarded and made this build after playing for a good 24 hours straight.
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>>164356696
Forgot to add my gems are probably gonna be Echo - FC - Fire pen - Cold to fire - conc/aoe - Ele focus, though im still thinking over how to go about this build.
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>Finally get CwDT Immortal Call Warlord's Mark setup

Holy shit this feels fucking amazing.
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>>164356696
Do you think you'll have trouble surviving? The difference between our builds is basically you have some more ES, while I have a lot more damage. While I also run 3 curses . I imagine it will be fine. I was just comparing to mine to see where I could improve mine
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>>164356696
Dual perandus signet isn't worth giving up a socket and taking (((Avatar of Fire))). Pathing to the scion duration wheel isn't worth it, and you don't need foresight.
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>>164357132
Assuming I drop all that shit, what would you suggest I put the extra points into? More jewel slots?
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Just ripped, looking to play a build that revolves around daggers, elemental is ok but i prefer physical\chaos dmg. Probably gonna run blade flurry unless u guys have another suggestion

Either that or some kind of necromancer build that summons a ton of guys on screen, but i havent really seen anything like that desu
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>>164357302
desu you could also take out your starting nodes into % spell damage and go up int first and then use those points elsewhere. You're only gaining 400 damage from those 4 points opposed to the 2 from int. Then drop a point into something like catalyse and look around the tree for more efficient nodes
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>turn on our guy zizaran's stream
>15.8k es at level 80
poetards?
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>>164357302
Not taking the radius nodes is boggling my mind, and the jewel socket by unwavering is a must. You could also take the jewel socket near mind over matter.

Your tree is pretty large as it is, the tree you had was a level 93 tree which is a bit ambitious.
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>>164354694
detonate dead shenanigans
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>>164357624
>>164357584
poeurl.com/Yxn

This one make slightly more sense or am I still pretty off base?
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>>164356546
It actually turned out to be windows defender, and it wasn't even scanning anything.
Thanks for your help anyways man.
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>>164357939
I think it's a bit better. Also get the program path of building and get your "ideal" or gear you will be able to obtain and see what the different nodes do to your stats. You'll find out what is best for you
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>>164357596
>amount of ES depends on your level, not your gear
based retard
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>>164358194
Aight thanks for dealing with my retarded bullshit for this long, I should be able to cobble together a decent build now.
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>fixes BV double dipping but not cold to fire
uhhhh poetards???????????????
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lmao dumbass doesnt know what passive points are
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>>164358318
Keep me updated, dawg. I'm really interested in WI builds because it's the one I play
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>>164358329
only works on ignite vortex right?
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>>164358447
what do you think about this build? poeurl.com/VlX

stole it off a youtuber, goal is tri curse tanky as fuck WI

not enough damage maybe?
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reminder

shitcrows are not allowed in poeg

poeg is an elite hc general that's strictly for elite hc players

shitcrows are NOT allowed
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>>164358329
one's a bug and one's an intended game mechanic you mongo, why do you think damage conversion is even in the game?
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in terms of boss hp, is there a map tier or specific map that's comparable to uber atziri's trio?
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should i play kinetic blast or blade flurry
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>>164359035
vaal temple
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>>164359035
doubt it, t15 bosses are an absolute joke. probably somewhere inbetween a t15 boss and a guardian.
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What do you WI anons think about the new CWC scorching ray WI build? I heard it might be better than standard WI.
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>>164358739
>I sacrifice dps for defense and it makes me hardcore
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>>164359294
wouldn't you have to link WI then?
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What's the best non-ci uber lab farmer?

Something that just doesn't give a shit about mechanics would be great
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>>164359419
AW juggernaut
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>>164359361
no

>>164359294
It's pretty gud man. Berserker is the best ascendancy for it
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>>164358706
It's definitely tanky, but damage is bad. Also the benefit of going elementalist is you can do reflect maps easily. This is the build I'm going after right now.

www.poeurl.com/V45

I haven't tested occultist so maybe it is good
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>>164359642

are you cold to fire? is there ever a point to not go cold to fire as WI?
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>>164359294
You don't need to build different to use SR/CWC at all. I use it. It just makes it much faster for map clearing. You will have little lower damage, but it's easier to cast and then immediately move instead of being stuck in a spell echo animation
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I finished my first T15 today

Pretty happy desu
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>>164359758
perhaps build isn't the best word, new WI setup I guess.
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>>164359361
Yeah but you only need to 3 or 4L it so it's not so bad.
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>>164359758
Honestly it's worth taking the small in deeps for the overwhelmingly large quality of life improvement cwc + scorching ray provides.
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>>164359757
yes I'm cold to fire. I use pyre ring for it
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>>164348642
>just died with x meta build I copied
>should I start new x meta build I just saw streamed and want to copy

its amazes me how you guys are mean to new players and yet the majority of people I see here are meta slave build copiers that just go around doing whatevers popular
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>>164359905
We're not mean to new players

Only retards
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>>164359863
>>164359814

I never said it isn't worth it :). I use it all the time except I switch back sometimes for certain bosses.
Also SR/cwc is amazing for maps with no regen. You could get fucked sometimes by miscasting an ice storm and then having 0 mana. Since SR is so cheap it makes those maps no worry at all
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