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first for kos

first for Kosm

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AHH, KOS

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>want to do strength build
>get sick looking Kirkhammer
>swing at enemy
>29 damage
???

can i wear a fursuit in this game

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>Kosm

>>164235342
Beast-Possessed Soul really is a fuck, you're not alone, I hate him myself. Something about his string of attacks just fuck me up, no point parrying him if you're anything but a skill build, and he dodges backwards after every single fucking hit on him, he's a right bollocks, no doubt.

MARRY THE DOLL
HOLD HANDS WITH THE DOLL
LOVE THE DOLL

>>164235560
Brador's set

>>164235551
>upgrade kirk
>pump strength
>jam any physical or blunt gems you get into it
>???
>profit

How the fuck are you even meant to kill bosses on an arc build
>most bosses are primarily weak to physical
>can't use viscerals
>can't use beast blood pellets
Am I just supposed to chip my way through 40k HP 300 damage at a time?

>>164235560
Beast's Embrace rune

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I read all things about chalice dungeons, yet I have not even a bit of a nerve to farm like in an mmo for all these materials.

Is there a super fast way to do this?

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>>164235691
Sleep with the doll

>>164235750
Elemental weakness and Hunter tools.

>>164235750
its all about exploiting weaknesses, you need to do your research

most bosses are either weak to bolt or fire - as well as additional effects like serrated, or righteous. The early game is actually pretty easy on ARC if you know what you're doing. Level the fuck out of flamesprayer, dump a load of arcane, then throw bone marrow ash on it. You'll fucking melt Amelia in seconds.

>>164235750
Elemental gems, nigga

Saw Spear and waning fire gem from Cathedral Ward, pump arc. Once you've put an elemental gem (arc, fire, bolt) on a weapon, that weapon now scales exclusively off of Arcane. The more elemental gems, the more damage. Don't forget to upgrade the weapon itself. You'll find bosses tend melt under their particular elemental weakness, such as fire for any beast boss and arc for later stuff.

Arc builds start off rough but get better once you open chalices and can get nice fire gems early on from Hotdog.

>>164235965
>Elemental weakness
Not every boss has one
>Hunter tools
Only useful as a primary damage source if you have really meme tier levels of arc, if you stop at 50 you might as well not bother
>>164236010
>>164236023
I didn't have any issues with the early game, it's late game and DLC that's been a pain for me. A +10 weapon with 20% gems should not be hitting for 200 per swing.

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>>164235594
>Kos

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I don't understand what killed me here.

>>164235917
Unfortunately, no. You want the good stuff, you work for it. But you don't need to go total autimsal Korean unless you want the squeeze out a few extra points of damage for PVP. You can farm the Winter Lantern enemies in Mensis and the Fishing Hamlet until you get some decent stuff that can carry through the game and NG+ easily.

>>164236023
i didn't even farm chalices on my arcane build because i still dont understand them

flamesprayer and bone marrow ash will carry the vast majority of the game

also getting kidnapped early and grabbing tonitrus helps you deal with bosses like Rom, One Reborn, Amy, who are weak to bolt.

i was considering making a kinda guide for early game arc since people seem to have so much trouble with it

>>164235750
Well, if you folowed our nice meme guide and you're assuming you just skate through end-game content with a +6 saw Spear with any ~10% Fire gem shoved into it, you're in for a rude awakening. Those "guides" are "don't get hit :^)"-tier.

However, most, if not all bosses, have cripple-able limbs that will take bonus damage once broken, and at least one substantial elemental weakness.

Phys+BBP+Paper will always be the best way to annihilate bosses, but Arc is more than adequate.

>>164236125
>not rolling with 99 arc
Only yourself to blame.

>>164236125
You need to switch out gems a lot and use the right versions of weapons. Lost versions of weapons are best for getting the most out of elemental gems since they have one each gem slot.

>>164236350
Then what about bosses like Orphan that aren't weak to any element?
Even on Ludwig with a fire weapon and 50 arc I did less damage than a level 4 character with fire paper and BBP.
What the fuck is the point of this?

Why are 90% of the gems I get either ATK down or health gradually depletes?

FC WHEN

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>>164236243
There's already an arc guide available from the OP

Start with that and go from there

>>164236217
Invisi-vomit it looks like

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>>164236440
>Even on Ludwig with a fire weapon and 50 arc I did less damage than a level 4 character with fire paper and BBP.
That's because BBP increases your damage by 20% at least, and Paper has 50 or 80 base damage.

>What the fuck is the point of this?
Having ARs comparable to a phys weapon, but targeted at an enemy's elemental weakness, while only needing to put points into one scaling stat.

FC WHERE

>>164236514
yeah that guide looks pretty good, pretty similar to what i did except chalices since i dont know how the fuck they work, who to farm and so on. I really need to look this shit up and get it figured out

>>164236497
IT
SAYS
IN
THE
OP

>>164236440
Orphan has a fire weakness, though.

Arc builds are dependent on gems, you need gems in each slot to benefit from levelling up arc, not just levelling arc alone. The more gems, the more damage. Cathedral Ward and twice through Pthumeru should net you some good stuff for the mid point of the game.

Arc builds are not good for beginners, Bloodtinge even more so. They require planning and time to get powerful.

>>164236762
Ask me any questions about chalices you have, and I'll answer.

>>164236762
That first OP link really does have a ton of info in it, check it out. Further questions should be asked in the thread.

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>>164236762

>>164236721
Okay, so what's the point if you're only getting "comparable" AR, at the cost of not being able to use viscerals or BBP?

>>164236840
i get the general idea of how the layouts and such work, i dont get how using glyphs works, how people know what to farm and stuff like that

I think that if i just start with the chalice from BSB i can gather the materials from within them to keep doing all the chalices in the pthumeru line without having to leave? And each chalice has 5 floors?

If i return to the dream and go back in are all the enemies still dead or do they respawn? If they're dead, how do i farm them? By recreating the chalice with materials (meaning i have to grind them?)

What is the point of root dungeons, i get they just randomise things, but is there loot exclusive to randomised dungeons and you just have to keep spamming them until you get lucky?

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>Going through the chalices a second time
>L3 Pthumeru, see this guy for the first time
>Seems chill
Is he like a scurrying beast, but passive? Or is he more of a lick-it-and-die enemies. Genuinely shocked I haven't seen this guy before.
Before someone asks, Hitler, Strength, Amyg Arm 50/20/50/13/6/10

>>164237105
He's innocuous unless you attack him.
He can cast powerful spells and drops lots of items.

>>164237105
Chalice pinatas.

>>164237015
I'll give you a hypothetical.

An enemy has 100 phys def, 70 fire, and 20 bolt.

You can either pump strength to 50, Skill to 25 or less, use a 6-700AR phys weapon with BBPs and Bolt Paper, and there's your build.

Or, you can pump Arcane to 50, Str and Skl to <20 each, have a 6-700AR Bolt damage weapon, and access to Hunter Tools, all at a potentially lower BL.

>>164237250
>Arcane to 50
>access to Hunter Tools

>>164237105
Completely harmless, called Pilgrims. Drops 10 bullets upon death.

>Summon someone for Laurence
>they're wearing literally 0 armor
>dies immediately

Thanks

>>164237429
Hunter Tools are spells, you get access to everything at Arc 50.

>>164237250
So you end up with a build that's worse in both PvE (no BBP) and PvP (no visceral damage).
Tell me exactly what is the point of this again?

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>>164237105
He also makes a bell sound when he turns around

>>164237092
With Roots, you can make them harder by either making them Cursed, Rotten or Foetid with extra materials(One of the main Pthumerus are Cursed)
This in turn it means that absolutely beastly cursed gems drop, such as +27.5% and more-better runes, chunks and different gem slot weapon variants. At this point, if you want to go to fight club, you need some gems from a FRC Pthumeru Iryll, Lower Loran, or Lower Isz dependant on your build

>>164237540
>you get access to everything at Arc 50
Not if you want them to do anything resembling damage.
Or do you consider those 200 damage blacksky eyes a worthwhile use of your time

>>164237670
right so all of the good gems are in the random ones, since only the random ones can be cursed?

so the only reason to bother doing the premade ones is to unlock the root chalices for the various levels?

Is there ever any point of doing root chalices of anything but the hardest level 5 ones, since thats where the best gems drop?

How much harder does hemwick become after Amelia? I'm debating which to do first, the witch boss just looks like aids

>>164237561
>worse in both PvE (no BBP)
You use BBPs to damage ramp to overcome an enemy's physical defense because their physical defense is usually their highest. Elemental builds don't need that kind of help.

>and PvP (no visceral damage)
Arc builds can do what Bloodtinge builds do: use a fast strong attack (like the Chikage's unzip) on an interrupted enemy.

And Tools are a huge boon in PvP. I'd take Tools over visceral damage any day.


But that's the paper-rock-scissors you're getting to now: Phys builds can ramp damage and possibly visceral, Blood builds can't ramp damage but have tremendous ARs and although they forgo viscerals, get interrupted and unzipped once and you'll see they're not missing it any; and Arc builds forgo both ramping and viscerals as well, but gain access to targeted elemental attacking and Tools.

They're nowhere near as bad as you make it sound.

>>164237885
Not as aids as Hemwick Charnel Lane overall after you've beat Amelia. Demon faggots all over the shop

>>164238035
>And Tools are a huge boon in PvP
Not at 50 fucking arc you mook. And sure as hell not in the wide open arena of a FC.

>>164237561
Hunter tools don't stop scaling at 50 and have no hard/soft caps. If you are dedicated, 99 Arc Auger attack can lock on OHKO most, if not all enemies you come by, and can easily take out a PvPer who isn't prepared-and you have AccBrew and BS eye on top. Add the S-Rank scaling Kos Para/ Milkweed rune, and you have a dedicated, unique and hard to counter build at the cost of very little Vit -A glass cannon through and through
My character with this build is called Gandalf the Gay, I gave him lipsick, shadow-the works

>>164237686
Hunter tools are meant to be used as just that: tools. You use them to augment your playstyle and help in situations that are appropriate for certain tools. Your weapon is still your main source of damage.

Using tools as your main source of damage is a fool's gambit, and on top of that the damage is perfectly serviceable at fifty arc. I'm saying that as an arc build with fifty arc, mind you.

>>164235917
You don't have to farm for chalice materials, you just DO chalices and you end up with the loot to make all the regular dungeons EZ.

If you have online you can join root dungeons for free forever after making one of your own

If not, you could just go to NG+ and be able to buy even the rare chalice materials for Insight

The only korean farming is for 'muh 5 more damage blood gems' which don't matter at all and you shouldn't care about because it won't change how many hits you take players down in and will save you 1-2 hits against bosses tops

>>164238163
Anon, here's you (You), now please fuck off.

>>164238253
At this point I think he's trolling.

If he doesn't understand the benefits of the pressure, stun, and damage creep they offer I say his loss for being such a caustic faggot over it.

>>164237092
>What is the point of root dungeons
THE POINT IS INFINITE TOUGH PvE CONTENT BECAUSE HARD BOSSES ARE FUN

YOU UNSIGHTLY BEAST

>>164235917
>>164237013

WAIT WHEN DID (YOU)S COME BACK? hail Redditoshima

>>164237561
>So you end up with a build that's worse in both PvE

I see you've never played an Arcane build before.

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>>164237853
Some weapon varients/ runes are exclusive to certain chalices. Want an uncanny saw cleaver?-Pthumeru Root
Want a Logarius Lost Wheel?-Pthumeru Iryll root. Exclusive, rare ring of rejection which gives you +10 lonliness when not worn by your queen?=Pthumeru Iryll
It's ironic how the Executioners are the more Vile ones. Vileblood> Hunter> League>>> Executioner

But if you want them phat gems, furthest down depth of each variant of chalice is what you want. If I remember correctly
>Pthumeru=Radial
>Loran=Triangular
>Isz=Waning
>Hintertomb=Useless after the Short chalice change

Usually an anon here will announce that they are doing an FRC with a password, as not only are they harder, cost more overall to do the ritual, but helpers get to roll the dice of gud gems with the host-its just an case of I scratch your back, you scratch mine at little expense to the host

I accidently srrc my way into reddits fight club, and lo and behold, it's all the same people from our own fight club. Getting some practice in before we start proper I suppose.

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>>164238251
>My character with this build is called Gandalf the Gay, I gave him lipsick, shadow-the works

Ian McKellan would approve.

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>>164239059
>Anything more vile than the literal murdercucks

Get out of my thread.

>>164239059
i see thank you.

Do enemies respawn when you head back to the dream? I got a fire radial off watchdog (10%) but i removed the chalice to make the Central one

That was probably retarded, since i could have gone back in and killed watchdog again for another fire radial right? Or do you have to remake the chalice to farm bosses?

Speaking of weapon types, i know Uncanny wheel is best, but what versions of Saw Cleaver and Tonitrus should i be looking for?

>>164239167
Who did you see there?

>>164239050
What?

>>164237092
Sorry anon was lost in the arcane discussion.

>i dont get how using glyphs works
Glyphs are passwords that allow you direct , free, access to a specific chalice dungeon. You can use them to open a chalice of the type (X Pthumeru, Hintertomb, Loran, etc.) and Rite (Fetid, Rotted, and/or Cursed) that you yourself have made before (so you can't use a glyph to access an Ailing Loran dungeon until you've made an Ailing Loran dungeon; or a Cursed Pthumeru until you've made a Cursed dungeon of any kind). The exception to this is Root dungeons. All you have to do to access any Root dungeon of a specific "region" (Central Pthumeru, Ailing Loran, etc.) is have the Root Chalice in your inventory; you don't need to have made a Root dungeon.

>I think that if i just start with the chalice from BSB i can gather the materials from within them to keep doing all the chalices in the pthumeru line without having to leave?
Not quite. Some ritual materials have to be found in the single player parts of the game, and can then be bought. But yes, most will be found in other chalices (refer to >>164237013 )

Chalices are between 3 and 4 Layers deep, and you have to leave the chalice and return to the Dream to start the next one.

>If i return to the dream and go back in are all the enemies still dead or do they respawn?
All the normal enemies respawn on death, exit, or Mark, just like in the main game. Bosses stay dead, just like the main game.

>If they're dead, how do i farm them? By recreating the chalice with materials
Yes, be recreating the chalice.

>(meaning i have to grind them?)
No, this is where glyphs come in.

>What is the point of root dungeons
Root dungeons are the real meat of the game. They offer the most difficult content and the best loot. The reason you need glyphs s to visit specific Root dungeons.

>>164239391
Mercure, Walter Allgood, and some others I recognize from last couple of weeks.

>>164239391
No Grumpy Pete or Cranston though

>just started NG+
>doing the the thing where you see how long you can last til going to the dream
>am an arc build
>fire weapon breaks before gascan

Fuck

>>164239693
so if i type in a glyph code to create a dungeon i dont need to have the required materials?

So say Uncanny Wheel is in Cursed + Defiled Pthumeru root chalice - i dont have to have ever made a Cursed + Defiled Root chalice, just have the chalice itself, then use a glyph code to make the right seed so i can find it? And i wont need the correct materials such as Ritual Bloods or whatever?

What's the difference between 40 bloodtinge and 50 bloodtinge? Is it that big a deal?

>>164239876
>>164239167
is this sevric?

>>164239991
What's the glyph?

Grumpy Pete wants to poison some reddit fools.

is anyone doing pvp around mergos loft?

Is there a bloodtinge guide in the same vein as the arcane one?

>>164240257
Yup, been doing adversary srrc in my spare time in the attempt to git gud.

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>>164240495
Why don't you guys just read the OP resources.
There's a document that say "read this before asking questions". Both Arc and Blt are there

>>164240251
Yes it's a big deal.

No point in going 40, 25 is good enough if you just want good guns.

>>164240495
get to cainhurst or get to brador, level vit until you get to either then start leveling bloodtinge, use a saw spear/cleaver
it's not complicated
>>164240513
Stick to NF and mensis, the fights aren't great but they're better than srrc invasions

>>164240495
Level Vit, level Blt, get Chikage, level more, farm offshapes for the rest of your life. Done.

>>164240159
>so if i type in a glyph code to create a dungeon i dont need to have the required materials?
>just have the chalice itself, then use a glyph code to make the right seed so i can find it? And i wont need the correct materials such as Ritual Bloods or whatever?
Exactly.

> i dont have to have ever made a Cursed + Defiled Root chalice,
To access a dungeon with an additional Rite you do have to have made a dungeon with that Rite.

It doesn't matter what "region", though. So you could make one Cursed Lower Loran, and now you could go to any Cursed dungeon that you have the chalice for.

Having made one chalice with the Rites is the game's way of knowing you're "ready" for that type of content.

>>164240412
i mean the middle

>>164240332
cvxae7ws

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>tfw got my first no damage ludwig kill
feelsgoodman

>>164240656
>farm offshapes for the rest of your life
Is that actually necessary?

>>164240251
The difference is obviously 10, anon.

In actuality it's will take you from 71% saturation to 85%, meaning you'll be using 71% of your potential scaling instead of 85%.

>>164240665
He can't do any cursed dungeon to access all glyphs, it has to be fetid, rotten and cursed besides being a depth 5. Basically, create a FRC Isz.

>>164240886
Not really, 27s are still pretty good but offshapes are ridiculously good.

Personally I think it's worth it, full blood chikage is amazing.

>>164240886
Necessary!?

Is it "necessary" for me to drink my own urine?

No, but it's sterile and I like the taste.


It is absolutely not necessary, but anons frequently want to to push the build as far as it can go

Anybody want to fuck up the camera beast with me?
Pass is wish

>>164241031
SRRCing

>>164240990
>He can't do any cursed dungeon to access all glyphs
That's not what I said.

Once you make a chalice with an additional Rite (let's say Fetid), you can then enter any Fetid dungeon you also own the Root chalice for.

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>join another persons world through sinister bell
>session lost
:^)

>>164241020
So how long would it take to get these?

>>164241220
>pvpfag
well deserved

>>164241369
Can take anywhere from a day to a month.

>>164241369
only a few hundred runs

>>164241165
FUCK
It's been a while, forgetting its moveset and radii

>>164241392
git gud

>>164241413
>>164241418
That's less than I expected. I'm used to 2000-3000 runs for a drop.

>>164241567
well then you'll have a great time autismo

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>>164241556
>laggy as fuck pvp fight where anything could happen
>""""skill""""

>>164241567
What the fuck do you usually play

>>164241209
You are correct, I was just explaining so he doesn't waste materials creating one at a time. A Root Isz with all rites let you access all glyphs except sinister chalices as long as you have the root chalice of where you want to go with less material costs.

>>164241706
>excuses

>>164241723
>I was just explaining so he
Well maybe try replying to him then. I was just telling him how they work, as he asked.

But yes hopefully his takeaway from that wasn't "I made a fetid, so I should be able to open an FRC because it has 'fetid' in its name.

>>164241706
>where anything could happen

You could also get hit by a bus tomorrow, but there's no reason to be a fat bitch because sit-ups don't stop busses.

It's about mitigation of margin for error, anon. Just like the rest of life, and it is a skill.

>>164240159
See >>164240990 and >>164241723

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>>164241165
T H A N K S

We doing Isz tonight, lads?

WE DOING ISZ TODAY
GET IN HERE SO I CAN VISCERAL YOUR FAGGY ANUS

>>164242180
>>164242364
>video games
>on New Years
HAHA atleast I'm not alone :^)

> see what this reddit fight club is all about
> first guy is using a Saif, buff it's with Empty Phantasm Shell
> walks straight into a Beast Cutter R2 > R2 and is left with 5 HP
> spend the rest of the fight spamming guns at eachother

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>last fight club was on Christmas eve
>this one is on New Years eve

>11pm
>everyone else is at parties etc
>im ringing a sinister bell in mergos middle

how do you know which version of a weapon is best for your build? like uncanny lost whatever?

>>164242823
>being a fucking normie on new years
>not being in the comfiest place on the internet, /bbg/

>>164242837
Read the fucking OP.
HINT: Chalice Pastebin

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HAPPY 2017 TO EVERYONE IN THIS GENERAL!

>>164242837
IT'S IN THE OP MY NIGGA

NORMAL FOR PHYSICAL-BASED
UNCANNY FOR ARC DAMAGE-BASED
LOST FOR ELEMENTAL-BASE

post more cute doll

>>164242837
RRT for physical builds.

Lost for fire/bolt weapons, Lost or RRT for arcane and split damage weapons.

>>164242823
>tfw here in Miami visiting family before the new college semester begins next week
>am bedridden with intense allergies due to a combination of dust, pollen, and pet dander
Happy 2017, I guess

>>164243021
Where you at, m8? Western Europe's Potato Island here, an hour to go of this miserable year.

>>164243193
Italy

>>164242180
>>164242364

is this going on rn? I'm down to do some FC but only if there's a a good amount of people

Just got a circle shaped physical attack up
Is this an offshape?

>>164243061
> NORMAL FOR PHYSICAL-BASED
UNCANNY FOR ARC DAMAGE-BASED
LOST FOR ELEMENTAL-BASE

That's not even accurate you beastly simpleton.

Normal and Uncanny are different for different weapons. Radial, Radial Triangle is best for Physival damage and Arcane damage. Radial, Triangle, Waning is best for Fire/Bolt damage and anything with a Circle slot is best for pure BLT damage.

Exceptions exist if you are doing stuff like dedicated Beast/Kin hunter weapons though.

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>>164243067

>>164243491
d-delete this

IM DISREGARDING MY FAMILY YET AGAIN TO FIGHT YOU FAGS IN ISZ WHERE ARE YOU PEOPLE

>>164243125
so i want a lost saw cleaver for fire, and for tonitrus i want either lost or uncanny?

>>164243657
I'm eating. How many people are in there?

>>164243882
LITERALY 0 you guys are a buch of normies

>>164243707
Yes. Tonitrus is probably best Lost, but it depends slightly on preference. That being said, unless you're farming for the absolute most perfect gems possible, the difference between RRT and Lost on Arc and Split damage weapons is pretty small, and you can just go Lost for all of them.

>>164243657
coming. going to play a bit on my skill character (I'm really shitty at skill weapons so I expect everyone to shit all over me) and then I'll switch to my str/arc character once I'm tired of getting my ass pounded

well thanks for all the advice on chalices and gems and shit guys

its all a bit overwhelming but i'll do a bunch of reading and stuff and hopefully get the hang of it

happy new year hoonters

>>164243956
just kidding change of plan. got a call so I'm going to go out with some people. happy new year's bbg, I'll see you all at the 2017 FC

>>164243657
I'd go but my controller is fucking up.

>>164243707
Toniteus you always want Lost,

Because Waning Nourishings can have Bolt as a secondary, which is useless on Wheel or HMS, but perfect for Tonitrus.

Is the kos parasite even useful for PvE?

>>164239391
The Discordfaggots usually troll the Reddit FC before the /bbg/ FC

Alright Killian what the fuck happened there?

You walked right into Amy Arm follow up, but it did no damage, and somehow parried you? But then my attempted visceral was just an R1 that also did no damage.

>>164243440
Well then I was lied to by some other beastly idiot, I'm only telling what I've been told.

>>164244584
I dodged the r2 followup which somehow ended up backstabbing me, I dunno if it was lag for the charged r2 before hand but i-framing charged r2s to the back still give backstabs even if it doesnt hit
you tried to go in for the visceral but were too slow so I dodged out
if I had to sum it up, I'd say netcode

Gonna come fightclub and give you all the cum.

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Anyone wanna do a nightmare Mensis run with me? Pass is men

>>164244790
Did you not use common sense?

Uncsnny Saif has RRT, Uncanny Kirkhammer has RRW. Did you really think they would both be suited to the same gem setups?

which dungeon is the fc in? the isz one?

>>164245124
Yes.

So far I've only fought the same two people. Please more join.

>>164245005
I'll come

really gave me the cum there with your beast cutter

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What weapon requires the highest IQ to master?

>>164245420
damn it grumpy pete stop fucking me

>>164245547
>tfw too smart to use the cane

>>164245547
Reiterpallasch

>>164245547
rakuyo :^)

>>164245005
Are you by the lamp?

>clear the entire game up to BSB
>running back to cathedral ward
>immediately combo'd to death by AWAY AWAYs

And so ends my no death NG+ run

How many people are in the FC?

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>all moves of all trick weapons can be parried
>except for jump attacks but those can be cancelled by pistol shots
>no backstabs to punish parry spammers
who the fuck thought it's a good idea

>>164245547
Beast Cutter

I can't believe how fucking slow it feels, it doesn't seem to have much tracking, and it doesn't have huegdamage charge attacks like other slow things. Only a master could utilize such a strange weapon imo

>>164245660
>spelling too correctly

poorly meme'd my man

Well i cant be in the fc anynore, happy new year to all of bbg, you guys are great, i hope 2017 is full of good things for all of you

>>164245820
I'm at the 2nd lamp

Gonna change the pass to bbg now so try join now

>>164246032
later mysterious poor spelling anon

BoM or Saif, which one gets the first rock.

>>164246126
BoM, Saif is too ez to use

giving everyone the business (except grumpy pete) with my rakuyo memes

>>164245592
>>164245420
>>164246028
> tfw on a 6 win streak with the Cutter

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TFW playing bloodborne instead of new years party.

I'm ok with this.

>>164246126
BoM for Eileen.

Does the FC welcome shitters?

>>164246436
Yes, considering that I am there.

I need to learn how to use this thing, man

>>164246340
ok someone finally gave me the cum

>>164246592
stop being so fucking gay, faggot

I'll be at the fog.

>>164246696
stop being gay

My sides

To the guy who fell off try join again

>10 minutes until new year
/bbg/ is my home

Where's the fight club at tonight boys?

>>164246909
the isz one

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>>164246857
already 2017 here britfag

it sucks already

>>164246810
Are you at the lamp or fog?

>>164247062
Lamp

Unlocked the other shortcut

sorry angelo i forgot to blood bullet thing

Anyone want to help first time scrub? I got raped by witches twice and now I'm at a ton of blood echos and I don't want to have to runback/lose them. I rung my bell and i'm on the stairs leading to fog. Any holp?

>>164247308
>Witches
LMAO

>>164247308
be there in a min, password?

>>164247308
Unreal

>>164247308
password m8?

>>164247397
I don't comprehend the fight. I end up like getting their health to half then stop doign damage and get swarmed by tons of dudes.

>>164244382
Kos Parasite is beyond garbage. The only redeemable factor is the tricked L2 which takes 259 seconds to charge and nothing will ever stand still for that long.

Even at 99 ARC it doesn't do much damage to justify the long animation.

HMLS nukes everything st the same stats with charged R2 at point blank.

>>164247283
He fucked me over in the 2nd stage with that bullshit

But yeah I'm ringing

>>164247549
cant do ass to help without the pass

also just it 00:01, happy new year fuckers

>>164245547
Memehunter Saif.

Not even joking.

>>164247424
>>164247538
bbg

>>164247571
Really? That's seriously disappointing.
What happened to the /bbg/ "there are no bad weapons" meme?

>>164247692
are you at the lamp at the very start or at the witches?

>>164247847
at the witches, my japanese pal who i summoned sacced himself to take out a giant axe man.

Happy New Year from western Yurop, /bbg/

>>164247836
Every weapon is viable, doesn't mean some don't suck at PvE or PvP compared to others.

Is FC already ded?

>>164247847
should I summon from lamps in this general? Or from boss doors?

>>164247836
He's being a faglord

What the parasite lacks in raw AR it makes up for in modifiers, some attacks do more damage than others and this isn't represented into stat screens. It also demands good gems to get the best damage. It has good range, good stagger and the tricked L2 hits through walls, it's quite useful.

>Playstation Network is currently undergoing maintenance

reee

>>164247969
>doesn't mean some don't suck at PvE or PvP compared to others
Then why does everyone who's being realistic and admitting there really are only about 3-4 relevant weapons instantly get shot down?

>>164248057
there with you now

>>164248057
If people are SRRCing into chalice dungeons lamps are faster.

>>164248025
Kind of

>>164247836
Kos Parasite is fine. The only problem with it is getting gems for it is such a pain.

It should have two Triangle slots.

>>164248025
I'm about to get in please stay alive.

>Playstation Network is currently undergoing maintenance

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>164248113
>What the parasite lacks in raw AR it makes up for in modifiers, some attacks do more damage than others
So it's one of those weapons where you only abuse one move with a stupidly high modifier, like HMLS?

>>164245547
Rakuyo and Stake Driver

>>164248128
Because those people are using those 3-4 weapons and don't want to hear that they're using a crutch.

>>164248057
>Story Bosses
Either lamp or fog. Just say which one you'll be at before ringing
>CD bosses
Lamp. Most people need to use srrc which is a piece of shit at the best of times

>>164248252
No, Kos Parasite when in Milkweed form has like a 2.0 or higher ADM on every attack. Its AR is low to limit how strong it is when used as a fist weapon without the Milkweed rune.

>>164248128
Because you don't have to play optimally? Who cares what anyone says, most of it is just bantz

That was close Pete.

>>164248252
>like HMLS
I think you're using HMLS wrong friend.

Anyone need help with anything?

>>164248129
thanks mate, what the fuck happened at the end there? a 2nd hp bar popped up then they both depleted. cheers

>>164248416
My taxes

Fuck micohlash with that bullshit

Took 10 years to stay in a room for the 2nd time just to spam that broken attack

>>164248542
Awoooooo

>>164248338
>Because you don't have to play optimally?
You do in PvP

>>164248431
id been doing back stabs on the 2nd one the whole time aswell

>>164248334
Right, so is there any reason to use it over a gemmed saw in PvE or saif in PvP?

If anyone needs help on a boss i have fuck all else to do

>>164248804
>he thinks the saif outperform saws
This is how I know your opinion on this game should be discarded

>>164248542
It also doesn't help that my connection with you is shit.

>>164248679
>being a optimal viable build fag
>needing clutches to win
Just have some fun and relax

Cathedral Ward boss coop

I'll start ringing outside the chapel by the carriage with the 1 white enemy guy. PW is bbg

>>164248921
I use the saif when I want to have fun in PvP and the saws when I want to win
>>164248939
There's no such thing as a "crutch" in PvP.

>>164248804
If you prefer its moveset.

>>164248679
If you want to increase your chances of winning sure. But I'd rather have fun doing it than taking the easy route.

>>164249057
There is no personal preference, only objectivity.
>>164249065
>losing a fight before it even started is fun
I will never understand you people.

>>164249000
>There's no such thing as a "crutch" in PvP.
Then why do you use it?

>>164249153
>caring about winning over having fun
Lmao

>>164249176
You can't call it a crutch when everyone can use it. You're just leveling the playing field by using it yourself.
>>164249247
Winning is fun.

>>164249153
>There is no personal preference, only objectivity.

OK, in that case every weapon other than Saw Spear is shit I guess.

>>164249376
So is doing it with whatever weapon you want to use, even if it ain't a meta weapon.

>>164248542
Lost my connection.

>>164249415
I know you're trying to be sarcastic, but you're not wrong.

>>164249153
>>losing a fight before it even started is fun
>implying

Marie, where are you from?

>>164249579
R2 land in the losing region

>>164249579
probably the fucking moon with that lag

>>164249579
USA, why?

>>164249478
Lmao you're not winning shit with your garbage ass Cane, shitter

>>164249502
Ringing again

>>164249839
(You)

does the chikage on a bloodtinge build have any benefit over using a tonitrus on a arcane build?

Something I never got is
Since everyone seems to use saws to farm the shit they need for other weapons, or just until they can get their weapons of choice
How do you not just feel disappointed when your new weapon is worse than what you were using?

>>164250064
saws are boring to use

I'm doing a skill build for my first run and I'm level 36 with only 10 str. Should I level up my strength six times so I can this Ludwig's Holy Blade?

>>164249978
or to reword that would a bloodtinge build based around chikage be better than an arcane build with tonitrus for pve?

>>164249721
Am I really lagging, How bad is it?

How imbalanced is Bloodborne really?

>>164250327
>>164249978
Chikage has a (slightly) better moveset and more damage. Edgy unzips. You don't have to constantly be L1ing to make sure that the hits you land actually do damage.

>tfw i killed the micolash fag but died at the same time

Mannn

>>164250408
Chikage moveset is great are you kidding me, roll catching with it is amazing.

>>164250391
Is way more balanced than any dark souls and that's for sure

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Are there any metafags worse than Soulsbourne ones?

>>164250391
It's not. There's just some guy here who's basically saying "Saw Spear is 0.1% better than the next-best weapon, so therefore everything else sucks and you should never use it."

>>164250734
NO
STOP IT
STOP USING WEAPONS OTHER PEOPLE USE. YOU CAN'T DO THAT. I DON'T LIKE IT. STOP

>>164250734
They rival League of ASSFAGGOTS players.

>>164250391
Some weapons are ez modo and people blow it out of proportion. Most of them rely on one move and end up being boring as hell, given you can get similar results with other weapons of your preference.

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>this fucking Canefag this assblasted he gets ZERO wins in PvP after he wasted months farming for gems for his shitty weapon

>>164250391
Not really, Rakuyo is the only weapon that's just a league above the rest.

Everything else is manageable.

>>164250443
Did you kill him?

>>164251565
Nahh, got slappee by the worm hand

>>164250734
>Soulsbourne
Go and stay go

>>164251505
The only thing going on for it is the moveset (even then one of easiest to parry) and broken hitboxes.

I recommend a Skill or STR weapon for my NG+ run that isn't the Whirligig. Considering the beast claws but I am considering my options.

>>164251505
Rakuyo user today simply could not beat a guy using a Beastcutter. It's not as cut and dry as "X weapon is good, Y weapon is less good" how people play determines effectiveness much more than a standalone weapon.

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>>164251764
You deserved it

I'm supposed to do Cathedral Ward first and then Old Yharnam, right? I entered Old Yharnam and some guy told me to leave. Just want to be on the safe side, there's so many things I fucked up in DS3

>>164252002
After you beat Gascoigne you arrive in Cathedral Ward. You find the lantern, then take a left and go to Old Yharnam.

After you beat the old yharnam boss a path will open on the right side of the Cathedral Ward lamp.

Don't buy the chieftains key or whatever the shit is called, you're supposed to do Old Yharnam first.

>>164250327
An arcane build around tonitrus (str/arc) would have a lot of variety, tonitrus, wheel, amygdalan arm, boom hammer, hmls, kos parasite and any single damage weapon in the game besides tools.

Building for chikage would allow you to use the chikage and bowblade, besides bloodletter if you level up str a little, guns with proper damage and a single hunter tool.

>>164252002
fucking play the game, anon. go explore all the areas

>>164252002
Your only options are to go through Old Yharnam and beat the boss there or buy the key item from the messenger and open the gate leading to the grand cathedral.

>>164252002
There two ways to progress into Cathederal Ward.

1) Buy the 10k key and open the main door

2) go through old Yharnam and open up a door to go into Cathederal Ward the back way. Getting a bunch of useful stuff along the way and opening up an optional area which I'm sure you'll find for yourself hehehe

I'd do Old Yharnam now.

>>164252002
Don't worry about it on your first playthrough. Just play the game.
The beasts you hunt are human and only defending themselves, so leave them be.

>>164252298
>are human
Were human. Past tense. They were humans once, but now they're not. It's still a moral grey area though.

>>164251909
Beast Cutter.

>Following up the glove with an auger, knowing I would i-frame through the glove
gg Patrick, that was a nice play

>>164250262
Please respond. Not sure if I should stick with this cane or grind so I can wield Ludwig's. I hear the cane isn't actually that good.

>>164252520
>I'm doing a SKL build, should I break that and do a quality build?

>>164251764
Are you still ringing?

>>164252520
>Being a LHB shitter

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If you're losing to the rakuyo you should get better

The rakuyo destroys people at Reddit/PVPskillz level, but that's about it

>Rakuyo users like to mash -> parry them
>Rakuyo users like to overuse combos -> space and punish them
>Rakuyo users like to trade -> smash them with higher AR
>Rakuyo users usually go for 27.2% physical gems because they have a poor comprehension of gems -> farm adept, bloodtinge, arcane or
elemental gems that are better
>Rakuyo users rely on catching rolls and dashes -> unlock, roll properly and space properly

The rakuyo is no different to clowns using gimmick weapons in DaS3: they can beat 80% of the community, but the remaining 20% who understand mechanics properly dominate them

Any Christmasfag getting upset at the rakuyo shouldn't worry

>>164252379
They're turning into mindless flesh-eating beasts and are only going to get worse over time as their fractured minds fall apart more and more, it's very much not grey.

>>164252520
The cane isn't fantastic for PvE, especially for a first itmer. That said, stick with your skill build. Ludwigs is literally easymode.

You'll find a really good skill weapoin in the DLC, the Rakuyo, or if you finish crow bitches story line you end up with an okay skill weapon.

>>164252646
I'd probably end up dropping it once I get that blade of mercy anyway, but using cane all the way to that point sounds hard.

>>164252520
If you are doing a SKL build why don't you use Saw Spear or Rifle Spear? You should have picked both up by now. Later on you'll get Saif, Rieterpallache, Church Pick, Rakuyo and eventually burial Blade. You shouldn't need more than 10 STR

>>164252817
The best thing you can do is git gud

or just use the saw spear

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>>164252657
>Rakuyo users usually go for 27.2% physical gems because they have a poor comprehension of gems

Or they don't feel like spending 8 hours farming for an extra 6 AR.

>>164252818
I do have the Saw Spear and upgraded it a few times. It has pretty poor scaling so I assumed it sucked.

>>164252928
it's bait my dude

GG Pete, Amy Arm R2 follow up too stronk

>>164252928
And that 6 AR gets reduced on any move that has a >1.0 multiplier.

>>164252963
>so I assumed it sucked
The saw spear/cleaver is one of the best weapons in the game nigga, both for pve and pvp

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can anyone recommend a good stat distribution for an arcane build that can use tonitrus and possibly hms effectively in pve and pvp?

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do FCs happen on Sundays too?

>>164253686
Just use the planner

https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne

Jesus, why to people constantly ask "how do I make _______ build" when planning a build is about the easiest thing you can do?

>>164253871
Read the OP

how the fuck do i keep rakuyo memers away

>>164253686
25/25/50 Str/Skl/Arc. If you wanna stay at a lower level take some out of Skill, don't go below 12.

>>164254137
Try not using BMA in the FC like a shitter.

>>164254192
uwot

>>164254169
ideally id like to stay by the sl98 meta

anyone need any help with bosses or areas? got some time on my hands

>people who invade in mergos middle

how much of a fucking casual do you have to be?

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>>164251062
>ASSFAGGOTS
You're a dotard, fellow hunter.

>>164254519
try and git gud then

>>164254635
i did
i fucking killed him

after he spent 10 minutes trying to backstab me whilst i fought winter lanterns

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>>164254519
>1v1 me in 4-1 fag >:(

Want to try a STR build, since I'm already going to use the beast cutter and beastclaws, whats another fun str weapon?

>>164254945
kirkhammer
duh

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>>164254945
Just about every weapon in the game is a strength weapon with heavy abyssals

That being said, Kirkhammer is one of the funnest weapons in the game.

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>>164254570
No, I just refer to MOBAs by their rightful name

>trick attack of kirk takes the same amount of time as the charge attack of amy arm
I learned something new

>>164255034
>writing on kirk isn't even futhark

>>164254945
Kirkhammer, 1H Wheel, Pizza Cutter, Axe, Steak Driver

What do these jumbled letters I keep seeing on the wiki pertaining to chalice dungeons? are these like passwords or something?

>>164255246
They're glyphs, used to access specific chalice dungeon roots. Many of the gem-farming ones are FRCs, fetid, rotted, cursed roots.

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>>164254945
Amy arm

>>164255116
:^)

>>164255246
they are modifiers that make the dungeon harder but increase the chance of finding rewards

F = Fetid - Enemies hit harder
R = Rotten - More enemies and traps
C = Cursed - Half HP and gems found become cursed (better stats but negative effects too)

Usually you stack them all together and you will find the rarest shit, but everything oneshots you and it's unstoppable rape

You use materials to make chalices, and use extra ones to add these modifiers

do nourishing gems affect elemental weapons?

like is a +15% nourishing better than a +10% bolt on my tonitrus?

How do I record a fight? Do I double tap the share button and then do save video clip?

Being that the game is in patch 1.09 and there hasn't been a patch since, did From patch any of the bosses from release day to 1.09? Were any of them harder before?

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>>164255961
Just tap share once and click save video, it should have saved the past 15 minutes of gameplay, you can then trim the footage in the capture gallery.

Now go anon, make more webms for the thread.

>>164255338
>>164255423
what? like one i found on fex is

6q77zr9h

There are no F R or C in that.

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>>164239357
If you are still alive (Sorry went spelunking down the normal Lorans) and had a drink for New Years.

Yes, you need to reset a dungeon entirely to get new bosses. If you liked the layout of the prevoius root chalice you did, remeber the Passcode/Seed and re-enter it again when creating a new build

For weapons in general, 2 rad 1 trig/2trig 1 rad/ 3 rad is best for normal Str/Skl builds. For the BLT sandwich builds, the Chikage has a varient with a gun stone on it-take it.
Arc builds are bastards to think up. 1 Rad, 1 Trig , 1 Wan is normally good enough to get you through, however work with what your weapon can offer and customise accordingly.

Tldr
>Str/Skll=Radials, maybe one Trig
>BLT=Bloodtinge Slot Chikage. Unsure about Bloodletter and Reiterpallasch
>Arcane=DIY

Also for any of the DLC weapons (assuming you have it), the quickest way to get all varients of all weapons you can find are in the Bath Messengers from the Main room of the glyph 8i29rqz3

Happy New Years /bbg/!

>>164255906
Yes, that's the entire point of Npirishing gems: Weapons with multiple damage types.

>>164255968
There was some sort of memory drain glitch at launch that would cause bosses to constantly repeat the same attack over and over again, that got patched out but other than that the bosses stayed pretty much the same.

>>164221992
What the fuck? I was able to replicate exactly this for a couple of seconds just two minutes ago. Not sure how I did it.

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>>164253876
>Jesus, why to people constantly ask "how do I make _______ build" when planning a build is about the easiest thing you can do?
The most popular post types are:

1. What weapon is fun? Is weapon x fun?
2. How do I build for x?
3. Where do I go next?

None of this should surprise or bother you after 4 Souls games.

>>164256208
ah that's a glyph, it's essentially a seed. You enter that glyph code and you will get a version of a 'random' dungeon (a root dungeon is a random proceduraly generated dungeon) that someone has spawned that has a certain piece of loot in

it's basically just a seed.

> accidentally chug the lead Elixor I was saving for the Rakuyo I encountered instead of Roaring
> end up poising through Kirkhammer attacks
> still lose

Ah well.

tonitrus has a shit moveset, shit durability, is a huge pain in the ass to keep rebuffing but i just cant quit it after i see it fucking tear through wet nurse/rom/one reborn