scg/edg/ Star Citizen/Elite:Dangerous general #115

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Thank you

That was one bloody mess.
>tfw away for the holiday and can't play SC
How's 2.6, everyone?

damn, I hadn't noticed the edg-hater tried again

>>164222695
Star Marine is pretty fun in small doses.

>>164222789
It's funny to hear troll argue against a planned feature that is in their best advantage

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14354-Letter-From-The-Chairman
>We’ve put this post together largely in response to backer questions about the Carrack. The specific answer to the ongoing question is that yes, you can operate a Carrack by yourself using the control system outlined below… but that we believe that it will be significantly more fun for users of such larger ships to take on the galaxy with friends

> You, the fans, expressed an interest in being able to fly your multi-crew ships solo as well as having the option to invite friends to man the various support stations and turrets. Therefore we decided that you should be able to fly a multi-crew ship solo,

https://youtu.be/pigtF3Xxjfg?t=1393 [Embed]
> They are all great questions and the happy answer is YES. We plan for the NPCs to completely man a ship that you own or multiple ships. They'll work just like the contract system for a human player that is going to be flying your ship but they'll simply be NPCs and so.

>>164222789
Holy shit is this real life?

Did you actually make this?

Just get friends and you won't have to worry about your solo Javelin lmao

>>164223129
Solo capital ships are confirmed. >>164223110

GG no re.

>>164223183
>Solo capital ships are confirmed.

Where? Carrack has five crew.

>>164223183
Not only has Roberts himself mentioned that the NPCs still need to be ordered around (good luck managing all those NPCs at one time while being attacked)

>2015
>Implying CIG hasn't and won't constantly change balance and gameplay when it comes to these systems

>>164223283

In this case it looks like the whale is right, they are saying that NPCs will be able to fully crew ships without mentioning a restriction on this.

The limitation is that NPCs are just an extra expense on an already expensive ship. Players lookup for fun will want a cut of whatever the ship makes, but NPCs will need paying on time, every time, regardless of whether you are making money or not.

Running anything larger than a Carrack/Retaliator with NPCs is going to be a money hole, mark my words. CIG will let people do it, I don't see a reason not to, but these people will get shafted hard by people who are actually playing the game and not just managing NPCs.

>>164222789
Must be weird to be this adverse to playing with other people in an MMO.

Like why wouldn't the guys on the left just do what the guy on the right is doing 10 times?

Good luck with your multibox dreams I guess.

>>164222695
>How's 2.6, everyone?

Baby steps towards an actual game.

>>164223787
"Fucking elitist go back to WoW you're stopping my fun", etc.

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Assuming this guy is legit
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/56z5ew/random_things_i_learned_from_chris/
> Capital Ship NPC Crews
In the long term, you should be able to fly the larger ships without other players using just NPCs; it just will be very limited in efficiency and quality. Obviously, NPCs will be far less quality than humans since they will be able to plan and react instantly to your commands. This gave me hope concerning the numerous multi-crew ships I've pledged.

>>164223283
>using the data from the store that give Idris 10crew (it's 50 in SQ42)
>keep pretending that they wont make the capital ship flyable in PU just like they will be in SQ42
The Carrack would rate at least for 10 since it's barely smaller than the Polaris 13-24

>>164224368
Let's be honest here.
NPC crew for ships is gonna be a necessity down the line anyway, since the active population might fall so low, you won't find players interested in manning your ship any more.

>>164224368
In one of the posts from the last thread, Roberts says in video that NPCs won't be "aware". As in, they'll man a station and basically stay in that station.

>>164223110
>that letter
>2014

uhhh does any of that stuff even work yet? Wasn't 2.0 supposed to be the big multi-crew release?

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>>164223837
> Must be weird to be this adverse to playing with other people in an MMO.
Must be weird to be incapable of conceiving the idea of optional coop features and npc-crew, a little sad too

I guess Star Citizen is too innovative for some people,
Kids can't understand game design more complicated than WoW raid or CoD

anyway I'll be leaving you, the new year is coming here

>>164225286
This. WoW has shaped people's understanding of games.

>>164224518
>active population might fall so low, you won't find players interested in manning your ship any more.
You think SC will have that little longevity?

>>164226089
I think it's good to plan for the day when it will happen.

>>164226175
Ideally that day will be a decade or so after release. Many MMOs have remarkably long lifespans. It doesn't make sense to prep that far in advance.

>>164225286
Exactly, solo ships must die.
I see the light now.

>>164226089
>You think SC will have that little longevity?
I think SC will be like any other game.

10% of the players who bought it will never install it or log in.
30% of the players will get bored in the first 3 months.
30% of the players will treat it as an average PC game, play it on and off and switch between Dota 2, Overwatch and Battlefield 1.
30% will stick around for the whole lifetime of the game.

How is Fractured Space as far as space games go?

>Lumberyard
>Not recommended for MMOs

lel

>>164228697
Decent fun. Arena style gameplay, good visuals, cool looking vehicles. Got boring for me though.

>>164228737
>repeating memes rubbished a week ago

(You)
(You)
(You)
(You)
(You)

Now go away.

you guys think SQ42 will release in 2017?

how do they release it when they don't have jump points and multicrew stations and NPCs working yet

>>164229202
Nope. Q2 2018 for Sq42 imho

>>164229202
We don't know the status of Squadron 42, how far ahead that is compared to SC.

>>164229202
Heavily scripted.
Also I really don't get the problems with getting jump points to work.

>>164229202
>don't have jump points

Going from one map to another is not going to be a technical hurdle

>multicrew stations

What for? You play as a fighter pilot right?

>NPCs working yet

Sure they have. See both swarm modes.

>>164229402
you're supposed to be on an Idris or something and getting to know NPCs and having convos with them and stuff

they could cheat on the jump points but you'd think they'd want it to look really cool at least as a minigame when you're traveling to other star systems

>IGN lists Squadron 42 on upcoming games for 2017
>wikipedia lists Star Citizen on games coming out in 2016 list

when will they learn lmao

>>164229719
There's only a minigame for exploration of uncharted jump points.

>>164229719
>you're supposed to be on an Idris or something and getting to know NPCs and having convos with them and stuff

Yeah, so you mean like the Morrow Tour?

>>164230035
that was just a scripted mocap demo

the NPCs are supposed to have their own schedules on the ship and you can initiate convos and stuff

you'd think they'd put a couple functional NPCs on arccorp already if they were really working

>>164230428
>that was just a scripted mocap demo
>you're supposed to be on an Idris or something and getting to know NPCs and having convos with them and stuff

>>164229089
>star citizen
>not a meme

kek

>>164230624
>CIG demoed it so it must be finished!

uhhhh star marine? multi crew? planetary entry?

call me when it's actually a game

Should I buy Elite Dangerous?

>>164231148
Generally the answer is no.

>>164231013
>uhhhh star marine? multi crew? planetary entry?

Don't need for episode 1 of SQ42.

Do you have any other concerns?

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>>164226089
The risk of a low active population is far to be the only reason to justify full npc-crew on capital ship
You can easily have X friends, but it's much harder to get 4 friends willing to play the game
-at the same time
-on your ship rather than theirs
-for as long as you (and if you leave, they can't stay on the ship)

The game would be unplayable if npc-crew couldn't make a ship work.
-you need npc-crew so other player can agent-smith in them rather than fly and board in.
-you'll have to explain to random players what you want them to do (a solution would be for them to read the order you gave to npc anyway)
-players can disconnect at any time (if you insult him for not getting your shitty order), so the npc need to replace them
-your playtime isn't 100% interesting so you can't expect players to do npc job while you idle (ideally you could send a distress signal, players smith-in your npc & earn their combat-bonus then leave).
-player might want to be paid more than npc, you might disagree. Many goods game simply duplicate the loot for all players, but here you'll need proper pay grade

Nobody will deny that having other player on your Idris is going to be interesting, but it will be because the npc make it possible at all. If I get my 4 friends to crew an Idris I'll ask them to do stuff that npc can't do, they'll not man station, they'd manage the npc manning the station, leading npc meat-shield team, leading the wingmen.

If you want to roleplay a nameless stormtrooper dad that's your choice, but it will be easier if your employer have 20 soulless npc for you to feel at home

>>164231280
I meant that CIG demoed those things years before they were actually anywhere near playable

still no NPCs walking around anywhere in game

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>>164231598

>>164231280
Not him but if SQ42 didn't need features like docking or 80% of the ship it will feel half-assed, even for episode one.

...or they need a very very good script to make you forget all about it

>>164231648
so I am doubtful that SQ42 will really be done in 2017

>>164231720
Okay.

>>164231693
am I the only one that would be okay with scripted(faked) docking, boarding etc just for 42?

>>164231926
No, I'd be fine with it. The question becomes: would Chris Roberts be okay with it? The answer to that will be "no, I won't release it until it works."

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>>164232172
>I won't release it until it works

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>>164232172
holy shit guys! it's a New Year's miracle! it's like a double rainbow!

>>164231454
If full npc crew of ships are allowed, it will make multicrew gameplay effectively superfluous. The utility of more fully NPC-crewed ships outweighs the slight increase in effectivity of human-crewed ships. I don't know why you guys are pushing the full-NPC thing so hard, capital ships are meant to be very situational and aren't supposed to be particularly easy to operate. Fully NPC crewed ships would eliminate all need for cooperation and allow whales to essentially buy power. Just because you're autistic and don't want to interact with other humans in-game doesn't mean gameplay and balance should suffer.

>>164231454
>The risk of a low active population is far to be the only reason to justify full npc-crew on capital ship
No it's one of the reasons, not the only reason.

Giving people options: good
Forcing your shit narrow-minded preference on others: bad

>>164231454
>>164232457
can we not start this thing again?

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>>164233146
It's proven to be popular for creating a shitstorm, so it's not going away any time soon unless people stop fucking replying.

>>164233146
What he said

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are grenade fuses too long? or too hard to see? it feels like wandering a minefield right now.

>>164233891
The issue is that there's no way to know if a grenade has been thrown, which is not good for a video game.

>>164233891
>2016
>not having delay fuse / impact grenade customization
I guess I'm centuries ahead of my time.

>>164234019
>The issue is that there's no way to know if a grenade has been thrown
Grenade indicators are for console gamers and children. Literally get good.

>>164234139
yeah but let's have a 3D radar on your face and red arrows where the enemies are

there should be indicators like with missiles

>>164234139
No, actually they're for game balance. Ironic that you're telling me to get good when you're arguing in favor of a free I win button.

>>164232457
>multicrew gameplay effectively superfluous
What if: People play multicrew because it's fun and fulfills that Star Trek fantasy rather than it being optimal?

>>164234631
so bad game design that only close friends and hardcore RPers will bother with

no I want it to actually work well since they should have been thinking about it for years

>>164234247
I agree. Radars should be a 3D holographic overlay interlinked with your squad like in Ghost Recon, and should only have useful information on it like sound locations and noted coordinates and spotted enemies. Also it shouldn't bounce up and down while moving.

>>164234319
>No, actually they're for game balance
Grenade indicators are for little babby, so you can move your avatar away from an explosion. Get good. If you were a PC gamer you'd have surround sound and spot them being thrown and hear them hitting the floor. Get out of my games REEEEEEEEEEE

>>164234631
I don't understand, why would anyone do anything like that?

>>164234868
too bad you can't hear shit with the overbearing music

>DOOO DOOOO

>>164234631
Why not incentivize that sort of gameplay? Multicrew wouldn't occur organically between strangers or acquaintances, or in dedicated orgs trying to squeeze efficiency out of their assets. That leaves only casual players and RPers to multicrew.

>>164235130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzPpWInAiOg

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>>164231926
That depend if you are supposed to have fun doing it. Myself I can't imagine how you would script it without essentially making the feature

>>164232457
You really don't understand innovative gameplay do you? I wish you are a troll and nobody is as closed-minded as you.
Your understanding of gamedesign is laughable, multicrew isn't a goal you force unto other, it's a feature your offer as a choice. It has always been meant to give you lever for your crew play with, not force it up your ass.
Everybody will play their Endeavor & Javelin solo if they want to. Fun-nazi like you don't have to tell them how they should play since it will make no difference for you. Want only human aboard your ship? As explained full npc-crew is the only way to make it work.

You don't even understand the powertrip at play, whales would love to forbid npc-crew because they already bought a LTI Polaris and have others beg them to crew theirs

>>164233045
True, I just want to emphasize that full npc-crew for capital ship is necessary at every level.

>>164233146
This shitstorm is more constructive & interesting than the usual whining because someone's pledge ship have been nerfed. Or maybe you want to talk about the obvious presence of aimbot in SM? Or maybe explain clearly why SC pledge is more ethical than EVE Online PLEX?

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is this a regular occurrence for anyone else

>>164234868
>Grenade indicators

I never said grenade indicators. I said there's no way to detect that a grenade has been thrown. Especially necessary for a game as casual as Star Marine

>>164238350
>that
>netcode

people really call every glitch, bug or wierd occurance "netcode" these days won't they

>>164238350
Star Marine is very bugged and there are aimbotters shitting it up too.

You're just supposed to be testing it and giving feedback, technically. Yet they still release things as products to make money, so yeah.

>>164234868
>spot them being thrown
game is darker than Doom 3
>hear them hitting the floor
as anon said, music, and they're buggy as shit and don't always even visually fly, let alone make noise.
currently the combination of long fuse and difficulty in seeing them makes grenades omnipresent death with little way of avoiding them. personally what I think they need to do is -make them more obvious (give them a glow or a hiss or both)
-increase bodyshot TTK (making instakill grenades less of a go-to since the wind-up actually takes longer
-add sprint limit, slowing down gameplay in general and making run and lob less of a standard strategy

do even one of these things and grenades cease to be such a shitshow.

>>164238887
when the devs say the netcode is causing frame drops I believe them.

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Anyone want to autistically/pointlessly ponder on the various possibilities of small towns on desolate worlds?

I'd want to frequent a lightly populated congregation of merchants in a deep crater, selling to passing groups of anyone interested. Ideally with a crucible willing to repair ships :3

>>164235712
Best way to encourage players to crew other player's ship is if those already work a 100% with npc-crew and more player would bring them to 110%.

An Org who need 10 players online but stuck in an Idris for hour just to move it would stop using them because it isn't worth 9 members in solo ship and it would be extremely limited without scout, escort & repair ship.

However if you give its member the ability to cruise solo with the Idris, each member can take their turn patrolling, other members can use specialized ships to scout, refuel it or gather money, and every members minding their own business could smith-in through the npc-crew as soon as they receive a call for help.

You have to open your mind,
Full npc-crew will improve every combined-arm aspect you want.
It's even the only way to make possible the mass-scale cooperation between players who have other thing to do than play stormtroopers for you

>>164239953
ok, will join you

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>>164240120
ayy

what kind of setting would you want in the universe, and why?

>>164240317
fuck is that?

>>164240601

ur moms ass seen from orbit lmao

>>164240601
space engine pictures

>>164240829
aw shiet. I was hoping it was SC.
why doesn't my space engine look that good

>>164240884
SC has good ones as well, but they aren't as numerous or varied

>>164240959
yet

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ED FM is light years better than SC. Never see a single complaint about in the ED forums. Plenty of other complaints but never about the FM. You know why that is? Because it revolves more around speed management and positioning, then instantly getting guns on target. So yeah if SC adopted ED style FM I would be over joyed. Because it isn't mouse commander, if CIG wants even competition between mouse and joystick, well thats the closest I've ever seen it in a space sim. This right now is freelancer with cockpits. This is arcadey bs.

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>>164241174
>Never see a single complaint about in the ED forums

>>164239451
I didn't know the guy meant a reminder to the thrower that the grenade has been thrown. This is a valid criticism, the animations and netcode are broke at the moment.

>>164241174
No, there are plenty of complaints, like not having the ability to yaw. ED's flight model is basically fly in a circle while keeping gun on target simulator. Occasionally ramming.

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>newfags fuck up everyone's filters with their shitty OP
>call them out and utterly humiliate and assblast them with no recovery, they just stop replying and slink away in shame
>instead of looking inward and reflecting on the nubbly little dipshit behavior that led them to this crushing disgrace, they choose instead to double down on their own newfaggotry
>lie in wait for days and make a new OP with the same shitty mistakes and a "f-fuck you f-f-f-f-f-filterf-f-f-feg" just to broadcast to the entire world until the end of recorded time that they are still literally sh-sh-shaking with rage even days after the fact
>a few days later they do it again, even when there's a perfectly good OP, just to demonstrate before god and all gathered witnesses that they will actually, literally, never and have no hope or chance of ever recovering from the sweeping, all-encompassing totality of rectal devastation they have been forced to endure

feels okay i guess

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>>164239953
Are we talking of npc-town or player-made town ? procedurally-generated settlement or famous (among players) location

Myself I would privilege handcrafted npc-town, think Tatooine.
Since it's not on a city-planet there would be no reason to prevent player from landing all around the city to propose their service like you.

To ponder : the advantage of a crucible is to be able to repair ship anywhere, so to compete with a settlement you'll have to give better price or unique service.
If the settlement can't repair ship at all however it all good.

Who know, if the last homestead demo is any indication you could spend a lot of time in a desert, living a mix of Homeworld, Dune and Madmax (and maybe some Starship trooper).
I like the idea of needing to protect yourself from a planet environment as well but I hope CR don't lose track of other priority.

>>164241421
no, I think it should be for everyone. maybe a HUD indicator for friendlies, but it still needs to be more visible for enemies than it is now.

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>>164241495
Why don't you fuck off you faggot shitheel literally nobody gives a shit about your oldfag horseshit

>>164241690
No because grenade markers make them pretty useless. They reduce kills by like 90%. It's not my fault shitters don't have any awareness.

>>164241495
>le mad oldfag is mad XD

>>164241495
Fuck you nigger

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>>164239953
>>164241573

>small towns
>desolate worlds

you faggots aren't even trying
Being stuck to a planet is for scrubs. AsteroidBaseMasterrace reporting.

>millions of places to hide
>constant navigation makes you a better pilot
>can hop from rock to rock
>can jump to any planet without effort
>no atmosphere to slow you down
>settlements to buy/sell all throughout the belt, if you know where to look

how can dirtfags even compete?

>inb4 >space turd

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>>164240317
You got your answer, >>164241573
btw, should have said your pict was from Space Engine. Heretic!

>>164240884
Actually I find the Planet Demo we saw more interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdCFTF8j7yI
If the editor is any indication they can easily make crazy mountain range like that, but myself I fail to see the point if only a ship can cross those.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKCDRyYzLtM&list=RDvKCDRyYzLtM#t=2
I would gladly ascend a mountain using a rover. (I hope they find good reason for us to not use spaceship for that)

>>164241174
Not the slightest interested in E:D flying-turret FM.
Freelancer's (game) FM was extremely limited but Star Citizen current FM is much more interesting, it create much more chaotic combat.

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Having fucked around in the Vanguard a bit I feel like the weapons are a little awkward.

Setting aside the fact that the Combine Ballistic goes through ships 99% of the time and does no damage, the Revenant Gatling seems to do really middle of the road damage for a S4 as well.

Compounding this issue is the fact that the quad-S2 lasers in the nose are so tightly packed, and have a different projectile velocity to any other S4s, you end up almost always just using those to murder shit.

Anyone else feel the same way? Don't think the nose gun has much of a punch for the ship. Maybe its just the balance of the guns themselves.

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>>164241812
>>164242141
>>164242380
Thank you for the mad that you feel. This is the best New year's gift I could have hoped for.

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>>164241573
I like the free-for-all setting that SC could present in those locations. Sitting around a small settlement with my crucible and repairing would be the life desu. Apparently the Crucible can restock ammo and fuel as well, so that would be a godsend if possible

>>164240301
Source? Name?

>>164242630
the cables in game now are so much less interesting than this. I hope the ones around shubin are more planetary-industrial grade

Happy new year from yurope star citizens

>>164242630
Stop being Jealous that my space-rock is bigger than yours.

Avoiding space rock in 0G is child play, here we fight against gravity, storm, invisible weather hazard and giant worms.
Yes you hear it right, we have worms bigger than the space can you live in.
Here when we look for a settlement it come with a (mostly) breathable atmosphere and mountain range to speed in with a Dragonfly.

You space turd can't be that hard to find, I only have to look at the only one with IR signature, but good luck trying to find all our underground city.

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>>164244487

>the dirtfag thinks he will be able to scan through 3km of rock that encapsulates my hideout

You aren't even trying. Your overpopulated geo-ditch is begging for attention from raiders and the UEE. I bet you can't even purchase what we have in the belt at our prices. Everything you've ever seen on your cratered mess of a planet has been in the belt for weeks before the leftovers drifted into your smog of an atmosphere

>atmosphere
>oxygen, among other chemicals
>dust storms
>worms

enjoy your constant hull weathering, worry, and repair costs.
>dirtfags will never know the comfy of quiet space
why even come to nullsec 2bh

>>164242827

Latest round of changes has hurt a couple of ships which have limited weapon options: Vanguard, Avenger and Gladius.

Hopefully they will finally fucking fix gunnery this year by aligning points of impact on gimballed weapons.

>>164246468
>nullsec
take your autism back to your containment forums faggot

>>164247545
>Hopefully they will finally fucking fix gunnery this year by aligning points of impact on gimballed weapons.

Thats intentional, they specifically said so

>>164247727
It's a term commonly used by the SC community to refer to areas with no real security. It's not just an EVE term. I've never even played EVE

>>164244350
that pic was from Shubin. The current pirate base thing isn't close to being as large.

Moslty EDfag here, but just got an Oculus so I'm kinda curious about getting back into SC (I have the ship that has 300i in it)

Is there any info as to what the final overall game is going to function like? Is it going to be more like a really, really big MMO-like world with lots of specific locations or is it going to be huge and expansive but with less unique locations?

>>164248463
>Is it going to be more like a really, really big MMO-like world with lots of specific locations or is it going to be huge and expansive but with less unique locations?

100 systems eventually, all hand crafted to a degree, with some procedural generation to round things out and make throwaway locations

I bought a Super Hornet two years ago, played AC for like a week and then promptly forgot about this game. Currently updating my client.

What have I missed?

>>164248463
lots of handcrafted locations dotted on/orbiting procedural planets. 100 or so systems, not 400 billion

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>>164248590
a lot

>>164248035
>It's a term commonly used by the SC community
by people with autism.
>I've never even played EVE
cool story

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>>164248590
a lo-
>>164248738
goddammit

>>164247781

It's fucking bullshit, and I'd be interested see see a source for that to see what their reasoning is.

If they make this simple fucking change it solves so many problems with AC.

>Can have interesting mixed loadouts without gimping yourself
>Suddenly more than just monoboat Super Hornets and Sabres in AC
>Mixing fixed and gimballed guns for ships is now viable
>Gimbals serve a purpose for people with sticks or whatever
>Default loadouts for ships aren't total garbage any more
>Balancing ships is actually possible, as they do predictable DPS

Fuck anyone who doesn't want this, up to and including Chris Roberts.

>>164247727
y so salt

>>164242827
I feel the same. Not only that, but for a heavy fighter its armor is quite shit when a real player is in it. We need an S5 ballistic cannon, similar to the tarantula. Basically a tank rifle

>>164248590
a shitload. I don't know where to begin

>>164248971
>I'd be interested see see a source for that to see what their reasoning is.
>If they make this simple fucking change it solves so many problems with AC.

I really cannot remember the source, but I do remember them saying that they didn't (at the time at least) plan to because it "added skill to gunnery" to have to think about 2 pips.

I don't think it would fix a lot of problems, and people with sticks would almost certainly just use all fixed, but it would be a positive change, sure.

>>164248971
>>164249134

I saw something quite recently on the forums that said they were looking into this, so maybe there is hope.

>>164248923
>>164248738
Did they ever confirm a hardware partnership for flight controls?

>>164249334
Nah.

>>164249334
Saitek, so everyone with a functional brain is staying as far away from it as possible.

>>164248617
>>164248567
Ah, gotcha. I was having trouble understanding the scale. Thanks boys

>>164249334
they showed a mockup of a fucking madkatz m+kb+stick, everyone shit on it, then they got bought out by logitech so it's either dead or was thrown out to start again.

>>164249334
Since Logitech bought out Saitek the deal is ded and a HOTAS ain't coming.

>>164249419
>he doesn't know saitek doesn't exist anymore
laughinggirls.jpg

>>164249489
>>164249518
>>164249419
Yeah just Googled it, looks like shit.

Guess I'll have to buy a Thrustmaster after all.

How's VR support now that it's sort of catching on?

>>164249134

>it "added skill to gunnery" to have to think about 2 pips

This is the worst argument ever because nobody actually uses two pips, they just monoboat Tarantulas or whatever is good in whatever patch.

>people with sticks would almost certainly just use all fixed

Stickfags are normally insufferable but even they should get a working fucking game. Right now the Vanguard, Avenger and Gladius are broken because there are no combinations in 2.6 that match velocities. Aurora and a few others are borderline because of the huge gaps between the sizes now. The Buccaneer will be in this camp in its current configuration.

>>164249692
>VR support

lmao zero

and I don't expect it to happen for a long time since everything is designed where 3rd and 1st person animations are exactly the same. and performance issues and physics and animation bugs

>>164249981
That's fucking lame. I was beginning to think this game had matured to a playable state based on what I've seen on reddit.

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I really want a massive 3D city, like that one racing map but even bigger. Some place where not only can you fly your ship around, you basically have to.

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>>164246468
> overpopulated
It's called a desert planet for a reason boy, Raider only come here to die and the UEE wouldn't know what's good for it even if we plastered it into their face.
I sure can't match the price of your worthless rock, but you'll be begging for our spice, sand-cat & unique crystal.

I keep repairing my hulls that's true, that why we are better repairer than you. Like that one guy living in his Crucible, he turn wreck into something better than it was out of the factory.
Yours ships on the other hand choke their engine as soon as you touch the ground.

I should thank you, your kind are our most common customers, skinny boy who never saw a swarm of soulsucker bee.
Join me at the bar, I'll make you discover the drink the Vaandul find too strong for them.

>>164249692
there actually was native IR and VR until relatively recently, but it was buggy as hell. I think they do intend to have it but it's back burner right now.

>>164249552
Precisely one of the reasons that everyone stayed away from it when it was announced.

>>164249852
Part of the problem is that there is no need to do anything but monoboat.

Having two pips would be fine if combat actually required you to think about ballistics vs armor and lasers vs shields rather than "throw everything until it sticks" being the optimum meta

Okay supposedly this thread is also for ED so should I get a vulture and fully outfit it or wait and get FAS?

Have fully outfitted Viper mkIV and like 11.5 mil atm

>>164250835

>Having two pips would be fine if combat actually required you to think about ballistics vs armor and lasers vs shields rather than "throw everything until it sticks" being the optimum meta

This would arguably make things even worse because now you have to field ballistic and laser on each ship regardless of the hardpoint sizes available. You could easily end up with 3, 4 or 5 pips.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see more depth to combat, but without aligning points of impact it is just going to be a mess.

>>164251161
>now you have to field ballistic and laser on each ship regardless of the hardpoint sizes available. You could easily end up with 3, 4 or 5 pips.

I can't think of a ship that has three different hardpoint sizes all slaved to a pilot.

>>164251079
Vulture used to be better. Who the fuck knows now with the engineering garbage.

>Gladius

there's nothing stopping you from monoboating 3x of whatever you want on that thing though

>>164250835
>Precisely one of the reasons that everyone stayed away from it when it was announced.
the buyout was announced after the sc hotas... thanks for playing though faggot

>>164251775
The reasons being that Saitek was a dumpster fire of a company that was being driven into the ground, not the buyout specifically.

Why are you mad?

>>164251760
Meant for
>>164249852

>>164234880
>Who could look at that thing and think it looks alright?
I dunno, an alien designer maybe?

>>164235130
>He still has music turned on

>>164234019
>>164239451
>The issue is that there's no way to know if a grenade has been thrown
>darker than Doom 3
>don't always even visually fly
First off, the fact that you have your brightness turned down too low is your own damn fault. Turn up your gamma/brightness, or buy a monitor that has an actual contrast range.

You do know they beep right? Clean the jizz out of your ears.
As far as them "not actually flying" no indicator will help with that.

That said, I do agree with increasing TTK and having a stamina limiter. But not by just increasing player HP pool, but by fleshing out wounded states: IE aside from headshots you don't instantly die, but instead fall down IE Left4Dead.

>>164253138
>That said, I do agree with increasing TTK and having a stamina limiter. But not by just increasing player HP pool, but by fleshing out wounded states: IE aside from headshots you don't instantly die, but instead fall down IE Left4Dead.

Should probably do us all a favour and kill yourself

>>164253138
>Turn up your gamma/brightness

wow let's make the game look shitty to powergame star marine. It's supposed to be dark in places

>>164253138
>First off

First off, why did you quote me with that other anon? I never said anything about darkness stop being a faggot. My brightness and contrast levels are perfectly fine.

>You do know they beep

I need a citation for this, I've never heard them beep. Even while cooking them. I've never heard them beep while landing next to me or when I've thrown them.

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can you not? i just can't even

>>164253276
This feature is all but confirmed already anyway. They plan to make it so crippled limbs will in fact disable you, and described how you could be dragged by a friend and shoot your gun while being dragged.

>>164253361
If you have so much trouble seeing people throwing grenades, maybe there's something wrong on your end, because even if I can't make out the pretty little textures in the dark, I can still pretty clearly see the animation for throwing a grenade and know that, oh hey, there's probably a grenade around here.

>>164253506
>I need a citation for this, I've never heard them beep.
I don't know how to give a citation for something that just is. I guess I'll record a video with audio for you when I get home from work.

>>164254278
>This feature is all but confirmed already anyway. They plan to make it so crippled limbs will in fact disable you, and described how you could be dragged by a friend and shoot your gun while being dragged.

Thats not raising TTK, which is a moronic suggestion.

Its already extremely obnoxiously long with medium armor.

>>164254258
Fucking use REC you retarded motherfucker.

>>164254278
>Record video

I'd appreciate that. Even the footage I've seen where people die from grenades and throw them I've never once heard a beep.

>>164254372
>grind rec to rent weapons when the game releases

>>164254278
>If you have so much trouble seeing people throwing grenades

uhh, people do not always stand in front of your view when they are throwing a grenade. And the fuse is a few seconds long

>>164254424
>when the game releases
Once the game releases, just buy the damn things with in-game currency. The fuck are you smoking?

>>164254258
Stop making this baitpost

>>164254258
They are priced so you won't fucking buy them with UEC unless you are fucking retarded. Use REC like a not retarded person.

You're not getting any sympathy because no one is stupid enough to spend UEC.

>>164255132
>baitpost
It's not bait, I think it needs legitimate discussion. Charging $70 (more than a game) for 2 missiles is not ethical. It's on par with EA's "Charge people $1 to reload ammo" scandal.

>>164255859
>Charging 70 dollars

I don't see any dollar signs there.

>>164255859
You post it every fucking thread saying the same thing every time, if nobody gave a shit then they don't now so fuck off

>>164251301

Hornet can have a mix of S1, S2, S3 and S4 and the Buccaneer will be the same.

>>164251760

In 2.6 PTU Gladius could not swap the nose gun, I am assuming that is still the case.

>>164255859
THEY ARE TRYING TO KEEP YOU FROM BUYING IT BY PRICING IT RIDICULOUSLY HIGH.

THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO BUY $70 MISSILES.

DON'T BUY THINGS WITH UEC.

Why is this a problem?

is f7c's best loadout just a bunch of gimballed tarantulas?


and three point oh when

>>164256174
>THEY ARE TRYING TO KEEP YOU FROM BUYING IT BY PRICING IT RIDICULOUSLY HIGH.
Lol. This is hilarious. Good meme.

>>164255993
I've posted it twice, and it's triggered you quite badly. Please calm down.

>>164255970
70,000 UEC is roughly equivalent to $70 USD, since the conversion rate is currently $1=1000UEC. However, this doesn't excuse the guy's blatant misrepresentation of the necessity of buying anything in Voyager Direct with actual cash. As many have said here, you'd be a goddamn moron to use UEC pre-release.

>>164256025
>Hornet can have a mix of S1, S2, S3 and S4 and the Buccaneer will be the same.

Wing/Nose guns are the same size, Turret gun can be a S4.

Two sets.

>>164256203
I have fun with a Renevant and 3 GT-220s. It's pretty brutal

>>164256240
>triggered
nice. You're concern has been sufficiently addressed multiple times. You are the only one upset about this.

>>164256240
Well it was twice too many please stop

>>164256260
>However, this doesn't excuse the guy's blatant misrepresentation of the necessity of buying anything in Voyager Direct with actual cash

Dammit anon. I wanted to point that out if he replied to me, in a more crude way of course

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Why are we getting baited so hard today? First it's fully NPC crewed ships, then it's $70 missiles.

what the heck is the Prowler supposed to be?

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Guise, we have to talk.

They are selling game packages for more than you can actually buy them for.

Something has to be done and I'm glad you are with me.

We are going to go to the officail forums and raise unholy heck.

This has to stop. Someone could accidentally spend $10 more than they would have to.

When are the CIG Nazis going to get back to work and quit ripping people off?

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>>164257095
Bro, refresh your page. You're welcome.

>>164257095
I feel bad for the niggas who have to buy SQ42 separately.

and they say pre-ordering doesn't pay

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Scammedfags B T F O

>>164257408
Man, I'm so glad they came around. CIG is so great. Anyone who criticizes them in any way is a Smartie.

>>164257475
I was going to wait for the outrage from the starter packs to die down, then bring that up to stir shit up again. Way to fucking ruin it, anon.

>>164257408
>Cutlass black for 11 dollars

I wish. I would do it.

>>164231148
I mean if you're just looking for an okayish space sim to pass the time while you're waiting for SC, you could do worse than ED. The MMO features are weak, and the gameplay is mostly about grinding for ships and upgrades. There are technically sandbox features, but they're pretty shallow and not very engaging. Just don't expect too much from it and it's not THAT bad.

>>164253138
yeah I actually meant decreasing TTK

>>164257959
Hands off my Cutty. She's too much ship for you.

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>>164258204
I only bought the Cutlass because I have a M50 ccu. I wanted to check out the Cutlass while I had it because I wasn't otherwise interested and figured I would not see it again.

Boarded the ship for the first time and thought it was pretty cool. I saw the rework and knew I was keeping the Cutlass.

I still want the M50. I swear it's the last one, after the last two last ones.

>>164258647
This is going to change everything for the ship though and I'm really frustrated we have so little information on how it will change.

Losing those thrusters on the sides along with extra mass will probably drop her handling into the toilet, and what will happen to the Red/Blue variants with those doors? No place for the clinic or cells anymore.

>>164258647
>tfw want some of these ships but don't want to spend hundreds of dollars
>Haven't been able to win any either

>>164258369
Look man, I know you are really concerned. I'm trying to help you here, please listen and understand that I am not attacking you personally by saying this, this time.

That price is not relevant and here are the reasons why.

Voyager Direct is completely broken and should not be used for anything. I don't know the exact story how this happened, maybe an oldfag can chime in and fill us in. This store was so broken that a new way had to be created for the mean time to allow players access to gear without binding it to their account permanently or fundamentally breaking the game before it begins

REC is the intermediate stopgap measure meant to bridge the gap from alpha to a time when you can buy a permanent ship with UEC.

Until we know how much starter ships will cost with UEC, there is no way to gauge if $70 really is too much for access to a pair of missiles. If, in the final game where capital ships costs millions of dollars (in value) the current price is not so extreme.

The REC system is what we are intended to use as long as aUEC exists. Until the final economy is set up and the final pricing for things are established, spending UEC now is basically betting against yourself.

Please ignore UEC prices until we know more about the final value of UEC. REC is what you want to use. You risk nothing with Electronic Access and can access more than what Voyager Direct offers.

>>164256025

It can now, I'm running around with 3x M4As right now famalam

>>164259112
Clinic and cells face the side doors. This was mentioned. It should still handle a little better than a Freelancer.

>>164259238
Just race, it really doesn't matter what ship you have. If you can complete a lap, you can earn good rec pretty quick. If you can complete a lap without crashing, you will win a bunch of races.

A M50 is 10,000 REC. Excluding Vanderval, completing a lap should get you at least 1000 REC per race. You can earn a little more with the M50 if you can fly not totally shitty.

You can literally have any guns you want and the best power supplies and coolers available for your ship with REC. My F7C loaner has full rental gear and the current setup is 16.5k REC. That takes a couple of hours in the rental M50. I wasn't planning on grinding for both, but the M50 is that much better than a 350r and it really doesn't take that long.

>>164259545
I know what you're saying. But are you saying CIG is so incompetent that it can't price these items and ships at the right values against cash but are perfectly capable of doing it via rental currency?

I don't really have a problem with REC prices apart from for the Glaive. But why are the cash items so expensive? You can't seriously suggest that they intentionally price them too high for people to buy. If they hated getting money they wouldn't have a web store.

The glaring differences between UEC and REC is suspicious. I think REC is just a "see it's not really expensive" stop gap measure and then they'll remove REC from affecting the PU and keep the current UEC prices.

>>164260829
>Why are the cash items so expensive

To bait dolphin and whale

>>164260829
My unsubstantiated gut opinion tells me that their lawyers have told them that Voyager Direct exposes them to serious trouble if this thing blows up, but they can't shut it down either with having it blow up in another way.

The biggest problem is they need Voyager Direct eventually, but they released it too soon. They are probably on pins and needles hoping this thing doesn't go off, and the only thing they can do is try to price it out of the market without expressly doing so.

Like so many things in this project, Chris blew his load a little too early and this is a thread that could unwind the whole thing. The price variances are so wild on VD (appropriate short name) that no one can take them seriously. It will be at least beta before VD is relevant again.

>>164261035
How much do I have to spend to be a dolphin?

>tfw just a plankton

>>164262296
More than a Tuna, but less than a Beluga.

Scam

>>164260829
>>164261557
Who else is reading both these posts, looking at the spacing and language use and going "that's literally the same guy, why is xer replying to xerself?"

>>164257019
Boarding craft, it says so right in the brochure.

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>>164266493
Wrongfag is wrong.

>>164266726
Oh please, you're not fooling anyone Sir/Madam/Whatever.

>>164257019
Prowler is one of the better ships in the game. It's more like a covenant (Halo) tech ship. Stop whining.

>>164266493
Why would I reply to myself from 2 different sides of the argument?

>>164268403
Star Marine and Arena Commander have rampant cheating. Why would you care?

>>164268403
>count of
>sum of

What?

>>164261557
Why would VD open CIG to legal trouble?

>>164270702
It's internet lawyer stuff, you wouldn't understand.

>>164270702
I not totally clear on the specifics, but it has something to do with the distinction of buying a game package or ship directly for dollars versus buying something with UEC which you have to purchase first.

CIG gets really defensive about VD in a way that stood out to me, given their other actions with regards to melting and upgrading when it's directly for dollars.

I contend that they would not take such a unusually harsh stance on VD unless they were being told to by their lawyers. You can't even melt bought items back into UEC yet, there is a reason for that. It is in their interest to let people do what they want, like ship packages, as long as they can't get value back out of the system. CIG is acting directly against their own interest for some reason.

>>164271305
>CIG is acting directly against their own interest for some reason.
Let's just use Occam's Razor here, buddy.

>>164271305
That is very convoluted logic.

They'd love you over on /x/

>>164271305
???

>>164271305
>I not totally clear on the specifics

Do you have any actual facts? Anything you can refer to? Some kind of law perhaps?

>>164271672
He can't because this isn't new. Look at companies like Gaijin and their reliance on people spending money for in game currency.

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>>164271305

>>164271386
>>164271590
>>164271637
>>164271672
I'm open to a counter point that explains why you can melt thousands of dollars of ships and not get a refund, but instead you get "store credit". You can spend the credit any way you like including buying ships you can melt later, but UEC is a one way street for some reason. It's a one way street that Ben got really defensive about, but I don't have the screencap of him talking about why they don't refund UEC.

My best guess is the things bought for real money directly are not an actual good but a pledge that CIG could get out of. UEC is a virtual good which is not refundable for some legal reason I can't explain.

>>164272049
>I can't explain

That about sums it up.

>>164272049
We issue store credit, which can only be used at the store, at my work place all the time.

>>164272049
>My best guess is the things bought for real money directly are not an actual good but a pledge that CIG could get out of.

That's retarded. There are no 'pledges', just purchases.

>UEC is a virtual good which is not refundable

In game currencies purchasable with IRL cash is totally refundable. Hundreds of games do it.

The fuck is wrong with you, have never played F2P games or something? Or Korean MMO?

>>164272154
>>164272170
>>164272452
Jesus fuck. This thread is retarded.

From the TOS:

VII. Fundraising & Pledges
You may select one or more of the pledges offered on the Website, or through RSI’s customer service, and pay the indicated amount(s) (“Pledge”) in accordance with the following terms agreed between you and RSI.

For the avoidance of doubt, in consideration of RSI’s good faith efforts to develop, produce, and deliver the Game with the funds raised, you agree that any Pledge amounts applied against the Pledge Item Cost and the Game Cost shall be non-refundable regardless of whether or not RSI is able to complete and deliver the Game and/or the pledge items.

XI. Virtual Goods
Virtual Goods are game elements such as ships, characters, or attributes (such as “reputation” or “citizenship”), items such as “ship insurance,” points, and credits (collectively, “Virtual Goods”). All Virtual Goods remain the property of RSI at all times...You acknowledge and agree that you have a limited license right to access and use Virtual Goods which is governed by the RSI Terms, and that Virtual Goods are not redeemable for any sum of money or monetary value from RSI at any time.

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>>164257019
>what the heck is the Prowler supposed to be?
a blatant cash grab by cig

>>164272967
>This thread is retarded.

Just you bro.

TOS mean jack shiat. A company could call purchases Fuzzy Dice if they wanted. Doesn't stop them from being purchases of a digital product.

>>164266493
this faggot has been doing this since /scg/ started. just wait for the shit webms he makes and the danposting

>>164273319
So he's a schizo

Not uncommon on 4chins

>>164273127
The original point was that VD is horribly broken and no one should spend money on it because we don't know what will happen. CIG is free to change the price or delete anything from the store and they don't owe you jack shit if you lose out because of it.

Trying to stop the daily shitpost about why torpedoes costs so much has turned into a big pain in my dick.

>>164273319
>>164273568
Look, just because you can't read posts that are longer than a sentence or two doesn't mean that all long posts are all by the same person.

It might help if you got a note book and made some notes along the way. I'll be here if you have any questions.

>>164273915
>I'll be here

We know.

>>164273915
>Trying to stop the daily shitpost

You're the retard here you know that right? I'd go so far as a to say that your posts count as shitposting too.

>>164273915
>Trying to stop the daily shitpost about why torpedoes costs so much has turned into a big pain in my dick.

Then stop. /scg/ doesn't need you to be its Knight in Shining Armor.

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>>164274026
You can count on me, anon.

>>164274112
Probably.

>>164274216
Don't you worry punkin, there hasn't been anything here worth discussing for days. I'll leave the thread dead next time, just for you.

>>164274502
>I'll leave the thread dead next time

Good. Don't be a self important arse.

>>164260829
Consider the following: A couple hours doing Com sat reboots would buy you those missiles if aUEC were UEC.

>>164273915
>big pain in my dick
your imaginary dick i think you mean

>>164274559
>self important
You know this is anonymous right? Who am I going to share the accolade of being correct with? The entire idea of an anon board is that identity plays no part, ideas have to stand on their own merit. What difference does it make if I am correct or not? Does it make you feel good to talk down to someone you will never know?

>>164274729
>Trying to figure out if I have a dick or not.
This is why I keep replying.

>>164275076
>Does it make you feel good to talk down to someone you will never know?

Yes.

Now fuck off.

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>>164275207

>>164275416
And tigger too

Go on, git

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>>164275467

don't die

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>>164278608
That is not dead which can eternal lie.

>>164279118
And under strange eons, even Roberts may die

anyone use VoiceAttack? is it good? bad? at least worth the cost?

>>164280667
4, maybe 5

>>164281071
out of ten? troubles with it understanding you?

>>164281271
two weeks

The music in 2.6 is pretty godlike. Is this the same guy who did the earlier music for the game? I remember a couple years ago there was some kind of music preview and it got a really lukewarm reception.

https://youtu.be/WzoN1hQmxO8?t=14m12s
This shit hits the spot

>>164280667
It's a retarded piece of shit that is slower then just learning keyboard commands and the only people who use it are lonely faggots who want their ship to have an irish robot waifu personality

>>164266493
>two people use mostly correct english and punctuation as well as double spacing between sentences

Why no magnetic boots in SC now?

>>164283637
Speaking of shit that used to be a thing, what the fuck happened to their whole new zero g movement system where you would be able to grab things and propel yourself along and push off things and etc?

>>164275076
>Trying to figure out if I have a dick or not.
There is no try, here. You don't have a dick, or a life. That's why you reply.

>>164284249
Sandi would rather spend funding on coke than employ someone with enough talent to program that.

What ship should I aim to get with REC from an Aurora LN?

Aurora or Mustang package?

How long will the holiday deal last? Till a certain date or till the copies run out?

>>164285464
Mustang worths 5 dollars more in upgrades, always get Mustang.

>>164285378
None

Get in your aurora, do one ICC mission, do the corvalex mission, congratulations you have fully experienced all of the content in star citizen

>>164285464
Mustang. Then +$5 CCU to Aurora LN.

>>164285552
>>164285570
How much time do I have till the price goes back to standard?

>>164285464
>>164285562
please stop samefagging to keep the thread alive you insufferable gimp

>>164285783
A few days, maybe.

>>164285889
Thanks

>>164285797
The only posts of mine in this whole thread are
>>164281651
>>164281723
>>164284249
>>164285562

See a psychiatrist

>>164286060
ok, what's the name of the one you go to?

>>164286453
Sandi Gardiner.

She tells me everything will be okay if I just upgrade my pledge package a bit.

give me 3.0

rrRRReeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
obligatory:
dead thread for a dead game

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>>164239953
>>164250315
>>164246468


ok if I was in a place similar to these anons and I had crates of guns and components inside of a Caterpillar, will I have to sit around until a player comes and wants to buy my products, or will I be approached by NPCs willing to buy stuff as well?

>Someone mentioned ED somehwere
>was wondering if it's still alive
>OH SHIT IT IS
>oh it merged with SC
makes a lot of sense I guess. ED on it's own couldn't stay alive. is the game good yet or do they still make you grind like a bitch and disrespect your time?

also: Kinda ironic considering how everyone in /edg/ used to shit on "star shitizen"

>>164289885
E:D has not had a single useful improvement. I uninstalled it a while ago and kept up with dev progress to see if it's worth reinstalling. That time has not come, and will never come.

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I enjoy Elite Dangerous.

>>164290327
I enjoy staring at walls too.
o7

>>164269157
No evidence of it being "rampant".

Or any at all of AC having hacks, either.

>>164289885
> is the game good yet or do they still make you grind like a bitch and disrespect your time?

The latter, but thats apparently what a lot of dad unironically enjoy.

The game is a vertical upgrade grinding simulator, so they can never remove the grind.

When are M50s going to be available for purchase again? I want a ccu.

>>164290327
this is bait

>>164269302
I assume it's a mistake. it's just how many of each ship are in top 50.

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>>164290167
I was angry right from the start.
>people are using tools to look for profitable trade and making dosh that way!
>shut it down and tell them we're gonna bring them API for that instead! (never came)
>people are making money running rares
>nerf it to the ground
>people are running trades like crazy because nothing else gives even close to enough money to buy any of the upper half of ships
>nerf trading instead of fixing the money gain from other activities!
I get that it's a simulation to a degree but fuck me I don't wanna play ED as a fucking JOB. This ain't fucking EVE. Even Euro Truck simulator knows that to keep a simulation fun you have to scale it down A BIT, and it doesn't make a 500km track take 8 hours you know what? Because ETS2 is your friend. because SCS-S respects your fucking time. They should be ashamed to be outshined by a shitty indie trucking game.

>>164290850
Aye dads are big time on the "If I agree that there's a flaw in the game then my buyers remorse is gonna set in. everything is perfect, everything is fine, you don't need anything over a Viper MK3 anyhow! That's fine for all the content in the game!!! DON'T TOUCH THAT DUCT TAPE IT KEEPS MY MIND TOGETHER"

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>>164291396
jesus christ
is there a tl;dr?

Director mode is GOAT tier. When we get 3.0 and a few planets this shit will be great.

>>164268403
>mfw I'm one of those Avenger pilots

>>164291916
The Leaderboards are total shit anyway

>>164291618
tl;dr ED devs are worse than indie devs.

>>164291618
fuck off retard

>>164291916
do you actually use the EMP? you should lure fags into the debris and rock clouds, slam on the brakes, and trigger that shit. would be lols.

>>164292105
Oh yeah, I end up walling people all the time. When there's a group of them fighting at the edge of the map, I just zoom up, lock on missiles on my target, EMP + Launch. Kill my target and laugh as the others go zooming away uncontrollably into the boundry. Grab the missile pick up and repeat with any that don't get walled.

I almost feel bad, since it's kind of anti-fun for my targets, but at the same time, the rec gain is amazing.

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>>164289759
You are supposed to be able to sell stuff,
There was a talk about a Endeavor activating a beacon and npc starting to appear for medical request + players respawn

So it sound probable you would have a trader beacon, the question is how should expect npc appearing, also if CR perfectionism kick in he might waste time making sure the npc walk don't appear out of nowhere then correctly visit your stuff and go away with his purchase.
That's how most people expect the Banu Marchantman to be used.

We are all wondering just how crazy he will go with npc complex movement.

>>164291396
Avoiding the nerf hammer and finding exploits is the metagame. It would inironically be less fun without it.

>>164292438
banu looks small af in your picture due to the human scaling.
>>164292025
sit down nigger

>>164292438
this ship definitely grew in size. It couldn't possibly stay this small. I say the BMM is going to be 140m. Just from the looks of that picture, some of the crates we already saw in the Starfarer won't be able to go in there.

>>164292654
scale's not off, it bigger than most houses, you're just a retard and as mentioned before should fuck off.

>BMM
>5017.6 Cargo units
>$250

>Hull D
>20736 Cargo units
>$350

So the Hull D hauls 4x the cargo for $100 more? What is the appeal of the Merchantman?

>>164293824
it's in the same boat as the caterpillar thanks to cig's pre-alpha concept pay to win; completely outclassed by things that came well after it, but before it made it in game. this game is going to end up with E:D tier vertical progression, I know it.

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>>164293824
The BMM, at full load, can land on planets and will apparently be able to sell its goods anywhere. Like >>164292438 hinted at, you may be able to broadcast your shit at an outpost of sorts in which people will buy them at your prices. You can unload your goods there and exchange the currency.

Fully loaded ships like the Hull C, D, and E cannot go planetside with their materials. They're bulk sellers and will most likely always have to dump large quantities of materials at shipping hubs, and given the quantity of the materials, it probably won't be your own. BMM are also told as being tough. They're most likely more maneuverable as well.

They're 2 different ships that cater to 2 different playstyles in the career of trading.

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>>164294319

>>164253506
>You do know they beep

>I need a citation for this, I've never heard them beep. Even while cooking them. I've never heard them beep while landing next to me or when I've thrown them.

http://pastebin.com/FryvyNz8

Threw this together real fast. I equalized the audio a little, because admittedly, they aren't that loud. So basically they just need to make the audio for the grenades a little louder and stand out a bit more.

Fucking spam filter

>>164295108
There is no way you're hearing that over the sound of you shooting or even running about.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if you could only hear it because you're holding it next to your face, and the audio is 3rd/1st person unified.

>>164295108
secret for you
http://puu
.sh/t7FgI/015d751516.mp4
still copies and pastes fine. also, you could have cross linked from /wsg/.

>>164295108
I literally can't hear anything. even when alone in a secluded room I can't make out a beep from the background noise.

The elite dangerous subreddit triggers the shitposter in me. It's full of people who know nothing about video games.

>>164295725
>It's full of people who know nothing about video games
Like all the ex-WoW players in here who think Star Citizen has to have grind and a gear treadmill.

>>164295812
kys

>>164295108
I hear it now. Much more noticeable now that it's been pointed out, but definitely not enough just yet. Sound seems to completely die even when thrown just a few feet from you.

>>164295725
Any time something is posted from that place, it bothers me, because I never want to have to see anything from that community. That community helped kill my interest in a video game and I cannot forgive them for that.

>>164295231
Except I hear it just fine. I know what I'm listening for. That's how I knew there was a grenade at that door.

>>164295357
What the hell, it wouldn't let me post.

>>164295621
>I literally have hearing problems
Look, it does need to be louder/more distinct, but don't blame the game because YOU can't hear it.

>>164295920
I know a lot of people don't play games while using audio cues. I'll never understand those people personally. I played way too much CS1.6, and knowing where people are based on footsteps was critical.

>>164296375
>Except I hear it just fine. I know what I'm listening for. That's how I knew there was a grenade at that door.

Yeah, when nothing else is going on and you're stationary, turbonigger.

Learn to read.

>>164296459
No, I hear it fine even when there's a gunfight. A grenade doesn't sound like a gunfight, it sounds like a grenade.

I'm sorry you can't make the distinction between a gunshot and a beep. Maybe you should get your hearing checked?

>>164296543
Maybe you should get your literacy checked?

>Heres a "proof" video where it doesn't actually involve the shit we're talking about

>>164296592
Are you just shitposting or literally retarded? Anon said grenades didn't make noise, I posted a video where it was very clear that they made a noise.

Somehow this progressed to cunt nuggets like you crying about how they have shit hearing.

Yeah, the grenade audio needs a bit more polish. That doesn't make you any less of a cum rag.

>>164296737
They don't make enough noise for it to be relevant.

I'm sure hearing grenades when nobody is firing, and you're not moving is super useful lol

>>164296814
>hurdur I can't hear it because I don't have my hearing aid in so no one can hear it lol

Christ, do you even have a point you're trying to make?

>>164296874
>Christ, do you even have a point you're trying to make?

I'm sure hearing grenades when nobody is firing, and you're not moving is super useful lol

pretty self explainatory there champ

>>164296375
>Audio cues

I use open back headphones specifically to hear audio cues. It lets me get the drop on people in various games constantly. That doesn't apply in this situation though, as it took you even equalizing the audio for me to hear it.

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just finally being able to fly around an environment with basic missions will make this alpha worth playing to be half-honest famalams

>>164297451
how dare you have an opinion.
cultist111!!!!111!

>>164295108
>>164295357

>Why can't you hear this cue?
>I mean, I literally edited the sound playback for it to be audible, why can't you hear it naturally?

que

Theres also the fact the sound system for this game is FUCKED. In multiplayer you can regularly have sounds delayed by a good 5-6 seconds.

>>164297615
>>164294932

>>164297693
Yes, the sound system is fucked.
Yes, the grenade audio needs worked on.

Aside from that, I'm just hearing excuses. But fuck it, believe what you will, I'm just making shit up when I say I've avoided grenades by hearing them.

>>164290793
Cheat engine works in AC the same as Star Marine, cultist.

Enjoy the trigger bots you fucking retard.

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>>164298209
Nah, I just think nobody gives a fuck if it works on your machine

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>>164298258

>>164298267
>My hearing isn't bad, it's your machine that's special.

>>164288224
you put it in seperate posts like this:

GIBV ME 3.0 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>164298368
Hey, if thats what you want to believe was said then more power to you. Continue shouting at pigeons

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>>164288224
ded

Why is there a general for a game that doesn't exist?

>>164298584
its executable

>>164298584
Why has anon already sucked so many dicks in 2017?