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/nosg/ - Nostalrius General

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>What is this?
This is the Nostalrius general. A private server for vanilla world of warcraft. We're currently waiting on the new nost server release:

NEW NOST WILL RELEASE THE 7TH OF JANUARY!

Alliance:
https://discord.gg/qJHXHvz

Horde:
https://discord.gg/qJHXHvz

>Server homepage
https://elysium-project.org/
>Vanilla WoW database
http://db.vanillagaming.org
>Leveling Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-Z2vplxWZACKmCpw1B8vexKQ2vwjRqFRjcJhHjAxxJg/edit
>Nos Pre-Bis
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j81TgG0p_HrYKajiUiQfYIoSUx1culzy2u_Fc4wtiS8/edit#gid=329725463
>Leveling Specs
http://imgur.com/a/aNm8V#0
>Big Addon Pack
http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/3573-vanilla-112-addons-download/
>warriors
>not top DPS

tags: wpsg vag wowg world of warcraft nostalrius

Old thread: >>164157167
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>>164188432
!! ATTENTION !!

If you are planning to play on FRESH, please vote in this poll:

http://www.strawpoll.me/11996818

!! ATTENTION !!
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>>164188493
>captcha

no thanks
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reminder if you got banned you deserved it
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<MAGRAM CLAN HS FOOTBALL>
OR
<GELKIS CLAN HS FOOTBALL>
Thank you.
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>>164188432
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xth for cute undead girls
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>>164188718
/our guy/ is so alpha. gonna get some puddi
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>>164188716
Stop avatarfagging you waste of oxygen.
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Rank 1 Rockbiter gives 29 ap.

Wtf is this busted shit, why would you replace this with flametongue?
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Anyone want to level upand ERP with a qt Femgnome :3?
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>>164188961
I'm not about to work out the exact numbers but flametongue probably does more dps anyway and fire damage isn't affected by armor
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Guys I'm thinking of rolling PVE even though I've always played PVP and am good at it on retail.

I get like 350ms ping to the server which is way higher than retail (I'm an Auscuck) and nothing I do lowers it or makes it more playable... I've tried PingZapper and other stuff like that and also addons like FastCast and nothing really works.

I only started considering this by sheer luck because I started a character on the PVP server just to fuck around. I made a caster and when I got into duels with melee they would of course dance around me in melee range so that I would get the "You are not facing your target" error and my spell wouldn't go off even if by my view of things I was facing them. So it's bad enough that I literally have to guess where players that are trying to kill me are. The thing is I like PVP and ganking and even don't mind being ganked, but it's not just a gear/level difference with this ping it's like the other players have a permanent buff against me that I can never get rid of.

So here's why I'm thinking PVE.

>I get to skip PVP which is something that I have begrudgingly accepted that I cannot win at
>I can start playing on the PVE realm immediately
>PVE timeline is behind the PVP one so I'm not too late for most of the end-game content
>Vanilla racial and class balances still exist but are less significant (e.g. if I roll Horde then I won't feel pressured to never roll UD/Orc over Troll, if I roll Alliance then I won't feel pressured to never roll a lock because of WoTF)
>general comfiness

Talk me out of it please.
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why are you waiting on a new vanilla private server when there will be an official one soon?
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>>164189264
pve server is better anyway. you won't regret it, literally better in every way.
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>>164189264
*to always roll
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>>164189274
blizzard will put the warcraft franchise to rest before releasing legacy servers
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>>164189264
can people stop making retarded posts like this

no one fucking cares if you want to be a retarded carebear

just play your babby mode server and shut the fuck up about it
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>>164189354
have you followed the recent news?
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Anyone else need a shotgun
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>>164189330
can you still buy the original epic mounts on PVE?
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>>164189264
>I'm not too late for most of the end-game content
I don't understand this logic at all. Wouldn't you rather be getting quickly geared up through MC/ZG by a competent guild before moving on to BWL, than stuck fighting everyone else in your class for mundane loot in MC for months on end?

Also from aus, btw. I know your pain. I'm glad I picked a hunter, because even with 400ping you can still get occasional juicy aimed shots on stunned targets.
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>>164189401
yeah, best they'll do is 'pristine' servers. that's not vanilla as you claimed
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>going trough the filtered message list
>gookinator
oh that's a good one
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Reminder that High Elves are NOT Blood Elves.

Sylvanas is a high elf.
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>>164189412
Currently leveling in Duskwood, are you on Alliance?
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>>164189498
I thought sylvanas WAS a high elf
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noob here

what's some essential wow lore
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>>164189542
Yes
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>>164189476
you have to believe anon because private servers are always absolute garbage
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>>164189674
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>>164189674
Literally okay with all of that
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friendly reminder the character creation screen is the most important part of playing wow
dont make any mistakes
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>>164189674
>Say goodbye to your pets. All of them.
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>>164189746
That's the most obvious sarcasm in the world.
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Do you think these people will ever get what's coming to them in life, /vg/? Because this is not just incompetence anymore, this is being deliberately fucking evil.
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>>164189674
Bye
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>>164189767
I once leveled a character to L20 before deciding that I didn't like its haircut, then started again from L1 with no regrets. You're not entirely wrong.
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>>164189772
>that image
i hate how poors capitalize "important" words
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>>164189786
Well, he posted a shitposter and I replied with a shitposter.
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>>164189674
These are all positive changes
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>>164189767
>gave my Gnome Mage the facial hair option thats gives +1 Strength, - 1 Intellect
>already level 25

FUCK
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>>164189809
stop getting phished/keylogged like a fucking twat
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>>164189674
>Say hello to your pets. All of them.
ftfy.
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>>164189809
private servers are always like that, it's their server devs are always going to make money off the chink gold mafia.
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>>164189661
Do we meet up somewhere? what's your toon's name?
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>>164189841
glad I'm not the only one
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>>164190007
I don't trust meetups anymore. I'll send it in the mail to your CHARACTER

Give me your name!
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>>164189883
w-what
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>>164189498
>"Blood elves are, biologically and physiologically, high elves." -The Warcraft Encyclopedia: Blood Elves
wew lad. >>164188327 Still holds true.

>>164189372
>Between the events of Vanilla and BC, Kael'thas returns to Silvermoon and gives his people the demon blood to satiate their magical addiction. He then fucks back off to Outland.
Wrong. He stayed in Outland. He sent Rommath an some other magisters back to Quel'thalas to teach the rest of them how to drain magic from living things and sate their addiction. It didn't change their DNA or shit like that though.
>"Ultimately, it is a matter of time before the fel-power induced green glint reverts back to the blood elves' regular high elven eyes. This process, however, may take a fairly long time." -Ask CDev Answers -Round 2
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>>164189047

If you don't mind my strong, virile, male Human Warrior muscles getting in the way.
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Who chink free /fresh Server/ here?
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>>164190174
>hammer and not claymore

BASED
A
S
E
D
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>>164190116
Oh okay cool

just message Doritonun he's the toon I'm on now
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>>164189880
Nah, Aehl isn't a shitposter, just stupid.
During the debate/shitshow about flying in Draenor during WoD, he posted literal novels arguing about how he was going to quit if flying wasn't in the game, how he shouldn't have to complete achievements in pvp zones, etc.
Some people are just weird professional forum warriors.
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So how much am I fucking myself if I don't take Tailoring on my warlock for fresh? I really wanna go herb/alch.
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>>164190116
>>164190007
>they want to meet up
>they can't because they refuse to tell each other their names
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>>164189627
Warcraft 3
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>>164189157
O..

mb
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>>164190265
>how much am I fucking myself if I don't take Tailoring on my warlock for fresh?
No bloodvine gear.

...that's about it. Not exactly the end of the world.
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>>164190265
not at all. tailoring is a huge moneysink up until you learn a few select recipes. herb/alch is more consistent but you'll have to fight tooth and nail against the xiaos for nodes.
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>>164190342
How long is bloodvine bis? Just til AQ? Is it a tremendous upgrade over other options?
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>>164190286
^this.

Know everything that happened in the WC3 and WC3:TFT campaigns? You're completely up to speed.
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>>164190161
How is Sylvanas a Blood Elf then?

She was killed and raised at a time when Blood Elves didn't exist, and didn't drink the demon koolaid.
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>it's an i-forgot-my-cat-in-the-oven episode
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>>164190423
>Just til AQ?
Pretty sure you'll be dropping all of them by BWL tbqh.
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>>164190589
>50 priest
>52 warrior
>just need a tank and healer g-guys!
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>>164189264
Honestly if it were me, I wouldn't even fucking bother playing. I can just barely deal with how shit the server is in every other way, there's no way I'd deal with shit ping on top of it all.
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>>164190589

>Invite.

>We just need dps

>Invite...warrior DPS
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>>164190589
m-maybe he was just trying to set up a group for a friend or something
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>>164190694
but warrior deeps is big dick you cuck
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>>164190589
What's wrong with th-
>just need healer now
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>>164190589
>just need a healer
>group is full
>he is a priest

kill me
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>>164188432
wait this cuck is on the pve realm lmao
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>>164190743
Warrior deeps isn't anything special until they're decked out in epics.
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>>164190743

>No CC.
>No buffs that main tank doesn't have.
>No utility.
>Rolls on all of the main tanks gear.

Whats not to love?
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>>164190174

It hurts when I pull on it.
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>>164190874
They're a fucking warrior and thus have the biggest dick?
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>>164189883
This isn't actually a thing, is it?
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who are ALL of /nosg/'s guys?
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>>164190743
9/10 your tank is gonna be a warrior and you never wanna have two of the same class in the dungeon. Shit like that makes it very likely that one will drop out cause loot competition. Also less buffs n utility n shit.
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>>164190998

>Miss
>Miss
>Rolls on main tanks gear

*DPS Warrior smacks lips*
So you be sayin I get dem tank loots?

WE
WUZ
DEEPS
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>>164190863

Even in blues it's competitive, especially if you're Hordeside for that sweet, sweet Windfury.

All you need is Edgemaster's Handguards + Orc or Human + 6% hit for bosses and you've eliminated misses and glancing blows which are the biggest detractor for Warriors until threat gen becomes an issue with gear scaling.
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>>164191075
just me
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>>164191128
>All you need is Edgemaster's Handguards
>All you need is an item that easily costs hundreds of gold
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>>164191197
That's only a few days of running 2man DM:E
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>be alliance hunter
>an entire armor class dedicated to you
>need the leather items instead because all the mail that drops is shaman gear anyway
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>>164191383
>DM:N farm is made impossible for hunters
>half the other classes can still do DM:E farm just fine
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how do i go about gearing up my ret/reck specs? heal and pray for t2 drops? grind pvp for marshal set?
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>>164191517
bruh
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>>164191557
Start saving up DKP
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>walking down ashenvale
>hear something go in stealth mode
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is this /chink/ general?
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>>164191197

>He doesn't know how to farm gold

Farm Essences. Sell them. Essence of Fire (Ungoro Volcano) and Air (Silithus, zone wide patrolling spawn) are the most valuable.

Farm Living Essence from the slugs in EPL, healers NEED these for the cloak craft (Name escapes me, but it's BIS pre-raid for Healers).

Farm Thorium. There's a circular path on Azshara's northern peninsula with (IIRC) 11 separate potential Rich Thorium spawns. Sell Thorium as bars or ore (whichever market value is currently higher). Convert Arcane Crystals to Bars if you can, sell bars. Otherwise sell Crystals as-is.

Azshara's northern peninsula is a literal untapped goldmine of potential farming. Easy Runecloth by the hundreds (Blood Elf camp). Easy Herbs (Dreamfoil fucking EVERYWHERE) and easy Thorium/Arcanite.

Getting gold in vanilla was easy, all it took was a small amount of time invested.

>t. Vanilla Raider with Naxx 40 kills
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is playing this private server for hundreds of hours a good idea?
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sorry if noob question but how do I join BG chat?
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>>164191826
try it for an hour or two. is it fun for you? there is your answer.
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>>164191197

Hundreds? They sell for 1000-1500 chink shekels.

They are BIS warrior dps hands random world BoE purp for a long fucking time.
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>>164191826
i have a 60 on nost and a 60 on K2 and i don't regret either
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>>164190580
Blood Elves are simply High Elves who renamed themselves and left the Alliance
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>>164191685
if it was by splintertree its probably just the nelf mobs
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>>164191826
>>164191950
>tfw have lv60 on rebirth, scriptcraft, k2, and nost
wow is the best worst game
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>>164191517
Isn't it still possible to solo the last mara bosses as hunter?

>>164191820
Hide of the Wild
You mean Larval Acid from the slugs, Living essences are also required but dirt cheap from DM:E farm
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>>164191685
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Friendly reminder, it is currently 5:30pm in beijing
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>>164191517
didnt they nerf dme drop rate?
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why is ironforge the most comfy city
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>>164191932
>1500 chink shekels
thats like 180 dollars
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>>164192120

Yeah that was it. I knew it was a drop from them but for some reason I was thinking it was the Essences.

ty senpai
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>>164192185
I wish Blizz actually went ahead with the second level of IF just purely for having available space
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>>164192120
>Isn't it still possible to solo the last mara bosses as hunter?
Yeah, but that doesn't net you a hell of a lot of gold, and you pretty much need to respec as BM to do it efficiently, (or at least already have great gear, or bring mana pots, if you want to do half the bosses).

Princess herself is easy enough to solo, but it takes a long time to bring her down as MM spec, and a couple of fuckups will get you killed.

Goblin is really out of the way and not worth it imho. Croc is too hard for a fresh non-BM spec 60 to take down without pots.


Basically it's only worth farming if you're going to dedicate many hours on end to re-running it over and over.

>>164191820
Thanks for the advice, anon. I'll try some of those things out.
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>got overdosed on Nostalgia
>remembered Athene
>he's still around, but doesn't even do GAEMZ anymore
>all his new videos are some weird metaphysical stuff
>poked around a bit
>apparently he's now a literal cult leader, living in abandoned hospital somewhere in Germany with his "followers"
>even fucking Reese and Tania are on this shit, I always thought they were the normal ones
What the fuck happened? I'm genuinely curious if this is one of those elaborate trollings Athene used to be known for, or did he seriously lost it?
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>>164189264

I'm going to roll a priest on PvP and enjoy every terrible moment. And you're right, there is absolutely no way to reduce ping to EU under 300. Any delusional emu faggot that says you can hasn't done a proper tracert to the server IP.
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>>164192714

Remember Reckful?

Now he is a balding yid kike who plays card games.
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>>164192714

>still believing anything athene says

How does one stay retarded for over a decade?
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>>164192887
he got surgery to try regrow his hair lol
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You don't understand, but if you live in NY or DC get out now! I love you all.
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>>164192993

Are you saying some of us guys are altright?
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illidan was a druggie cuck
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>frostbite
Is this a meme leveling guide? What's the proper build for Blizzard AoE farming?
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some of you guys are alright, don't go to ashenvale tomorrow
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>>164192714
BEST PALADIN IN DE FUCKIN WOURLD
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>>164192714
>>164192896
Nah, apparently he's now friends with some strange "scientist" guy who is the brains behind his "cult". Also Athene effectively killed off his channel when he started with his Logic shit so I doubt it's a publicity stunt. Also it started years ago with the God is in neurons video.
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>>164192832

Where is Elysium hosted?
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>>164193094
skip frostbite for permafrost, and get imp. blizzard asap, going back for ele precision/ice shards later.
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>>164193243

France.
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>>164190589
>just need a healer now
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is this a gud ret build?
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Now that Alex has proven to be a shill and a fraud, who is officially /ourguy/?
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>>164193459
STAY
SAFE
TV
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I stopped watching alex when he said on a stream that if he had voted, it would have been for trump.

how dumb can you get
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>>164193416
A good build for what? Leveling? PvP?
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nice false flag, alex still a faggot
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>>164193556
wpvp/battlegrounds, raid healing
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>>164193416

Don't level as Ret. In fact, don't actually spec any further down the Retribution tree than it takes to get Seal of Command unless you have leftover points.

31/8/11 with a floater point is the best levelling spec you can possibly have.

Holy Shock, Guardian's Favor, Command + whatever extra you decide to get. Get actual Paladin gear with Strength and Int allocated (Lightforge is going to be your best Pre-raid, Soulforge if it's available).

Keep a 1h + shield on-hand for AOE farming (Consecration + Ret Aura + heal yourself as needed).

Don't be a faggot. Vanilla Paladins were built to be healers, but if you embraced the Holy Tree you could also put out semi-respectable damage while having a mana-free full heal in your pocket that isn't called Lay on Hands.
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>>164193703

Correcton:

It's 31/8/11 + 1 floater if you get Precision, 31/7/11 +2 floaters if you go Favor.
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>>164192714
>remember watching OGFurious' other channel where he would talk about philosophy or some shit
>he hasn't posted a video in 3 years
>look at his twitter
>it's just a wall of anti-trump propaganda
>look at his video list
>realise it's just teenage entry level philosophy
>realise how retarded he actually was
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Guys I'm literally so excited for fresh. I literally don't know what race or class i'm going to play but it literally doesn't matter because it's literally going to be a literal once in a lifetime experience. I literally can't wait to play it with all you literal wonderful people and make so much literal gold.
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>>164189674
.... good?
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>>164193459
safety man
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Is there a list of relics and librams in vanilla?
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>that poll

no one wants to raid with /vg/ hahaha
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>>164193459
>>164193476
>>164193941

safety man is based
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Help me /vg/ I can't fucking decide what roll on new server. Horde priest or Warrior? Priest have the most shittest grind but 60 value is going be great or comfy tauren warrior.
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>>164191386
>hunters call all mail shaman gear
>WTF WHY AM I RUNNING OUT OF MANA?????
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>>164194148
>priest
>shittiest leveling grind
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>retarded priest didn't get shackle because he thought it was useless
>we're doing RFD
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>>164194226
>one mob
>one water
>one mob
>one water
>not the shittiest
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>>164189552
Sylvanas is dead, dude
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>>164194315
>priests
>needing to drink

have you ever actually leveled as a priest?
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>>164194315
nice shitter opinions bro
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>>164193981
http://db.vanillagaming.org/

Database=>Items=>Armor=>Idols/Librams/Totems
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>>164194315
>using spells
>as PRIEST
>while leveling

what the fuck is wrong with you? just go tailoring + enchanting and use those wands you can craft with enchanting and wand shit to death
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>>164189674
He forgot the selfies.
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>>164194203
Except hunters don't need any more mana than what they happen to get from agi focused gear anyway.

Even if you run out of mana as a hunter, you know what you do? You FD -> drink.

int/spi are great for hunters while they're leveling, but they're basically useless in dungeons/raids.

If a hunter actually complained like that to you then they're retarded.
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>>164194438
>wasting time with crafting professions while leveling
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>>164194315
>I play my class in a needlessly slow and costly way therefore my class must suck at leveling
Sure, and hunters suck at leveling because I need to bandaid after every time I tank a mob and raptor strike it to death.
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>>164193703
it's a nice thought, but i think paladin base healing is so strong you dont need any talents to boost it until you enter BWL
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>>164194438
I don't think going enchanting would be worth it. Just buy the two starter wands and get everything else from dungeon/quests.
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>>164194438
Another shitter opinion, your levelling will be slow as fuck only wanding. Use mindblast, sw:p, and shield.
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Shit token generator still doesn't work. What do?
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how many more years til fresh?
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>>164194353
yes in tbc takes twice time than any other class
>>164194378
you could share knowledge with me
>>164194595
>mindblast and sw:p
>will do all the damage to mob
Great tip I want to kill mob not sleep in the process
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>>164193291
Do I get imp blizz before Cold Snap?
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>>164194749
>TBC

This isn't TBC faggot.

Priests are very fast levelers. You're a fucking retard.
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>>164194801
Nah priests are fucking garbage. Just roll warlock
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what the fuck these assholes banned me
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>one week remains
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>>164194801
>tbc and vanilla in priest talents are different suddenly
and he calls me a shitter
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>>164193094
>he thinks he'll be AoE farming

hahahahaah
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>>164194879
guys I'm worried. I've made ~2g on my level 15 character but I want to try another class out. Can I safely trade the gold/bags to my alt without getting fucked over?
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>>164194938
retard
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>>164194879
>buying gold at level 26

why?
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>>164194879
maybe you shouldnt have bought gold, senpai
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>>164194879
What did you do then
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Why are ausfags so insecure? I used to PvP and PvE on 320ish ping for years on vanilla.

And I played a rogue lmao
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>>164194942
I'm not playing with you Nostcucks because I don't hate my life.
>meme numbers
>chink loving mods with heavy and free banhammers
>GMs that ban you because your account was hacked without repeal but allow repeals for legitimate gold sellers
>database leak and website being translated into chinese
>no anticheat and VPNs are not banned
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So I hear there's a fresh start server coming out in like a week. Should I hold off on getting back into vanilla until then?
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>>164194967
>Can I safely trade the gold/bags to my alt without getting fucked over?
I've given my alt gold and bags and haven't had any problems.
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>>164194967
Are you chinese? Of course.
Are you anything else? Lol hell no, enjoy your ban without repeal
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>>164195170
Up to you, leveling is going to be hell on earth for a while though
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>>164194967
I would imagine they wouldn't give two shits over gold transfers within accounts.
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>>164195103
>implying one insecure ausfag speaks for all of them

>>164195170
>Should I hold off on getting back into vanilla until then?
You can always use the spare week to work out what character you want to roll (faction/class/race/appearance/names) and coming up with a strat for leveling early. I'm staying on old pvp, but fresh will likely be a total clusterfuck in the best possible way.
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>>164194720
1 year
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>>164195170
I just used this time to set up all my addons and get everything sorted out and ready to go on release, even though release will be pretty much unplayable.
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>>164194879
BTFO
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>>164195135
oh well in that case, watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VglDVzxUcLQ
go to 3:57

good luck senpai, I hope nost dies soon and we all move to crestfall
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>>164195436
dumbfrogposter
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>>164195248
>implying I won't need that dose of leveling rage in between studying for college to keep my sanity

>>164195304
Good point. I'm going to be doing it with a buddy so the week will help us figure out our leveling roles at least. Neither of us are min-maxing-gotta-hit-60-realm-first types, so the chaos will probably be entertaining for us to some degree.

>>164195467
Luckily I already had my client and all my addons configured back from when I played on the old Nost before Blizz fucked it.

Do we know which level of content it's starting at?
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>>164194879
awful interface
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>>164195542
>I'm going to be doing it with a buddy
Immediately grouping up and grinding on L5 mobs will be an option then, though I still think questing/exploring are both better.
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>>164194879
>takes a screenshot with inventory closed so we can't see money or items
Yeah you can fuck right off, cunt.
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Why are the Horde a bunch of spergs?
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>>164195649
exploring is a meme and gives shit exp designed to get other people to do stupid shit so they don't compete with people questing

questing in the starting zone will be difficult. there may even be competition for level 5 mobs, but I tested leveling a character on level 5 mobs and I got to level 4 in an hour which is when you can do quests outside of the starting zone. I don't know about you, but that's what I'm doing, provided I can actually farm on level 5 mobs at the start of the server and not have to compete with a dozen other people who had the same bright idea.

Don't fucking tell anyone. I figure it's safe to say it right now because it's like 4 am and only aussies will see this and autists who read through the whole thread, and you faggots in Australia won't be competing with me and other autists are probably already going to be grinding level 5 mobs. But if any of you faggots tell the rest of the first worlders here in America, I'll find you through my old navy seal contacts and shit fury down your throat.
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Is it true the elysium team are in cahoots with the chink gold mafia?
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>>164194112
Stop shilling yourself you ratfaced vegan manlet. Nobody unironically likes you
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>>164195869
people have suspected it for months and months now.
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>>164195859
>only aussies will see this
Greetings from burgerland, your secret leveling plan is no longer safe
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>>164195869
yes
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>was extremely excited for Nost return
>counted down the days for server release
>finally it comes out
>server is a shit
>as overpopulated as fucking china
>"english" official language isn't enforced at all
>GMs are literally fucking insane
>people already saying "crestfall when" so server has high chance of dying

Fuck, why can't Blizzard just release fucking official servers. Private server community is fucking poorfag AIDS
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>>164195959
>browsing reddit
Holy hell kys
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>>164195939
but elysium didn't have nost before december???
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>>164195943
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>164195869
>>164195959

>>164196014
t. ivebeenon4chansince2012
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>>164196030
the old nost team is working with elysium for the most part. at least that's what I heard
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>>164195859
I know you think you're smart for coming up with this, but a LOT of people are going to be doing this, myself included.
Unless this was a bait in order to distract people from the main plan. If such, kudos
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>>164195968
>>>server is a shit
>>as overpopulated as fucking china
>>"english" official language isn't enforced at all
>>GMs are literally fucking insane
Don't you remember old Nost? Or didn't you play on it? It was exactly the same but people's view of it was a bit more optimistic because we thought they might not be as insane and they might fix the issue some day, but now it's obvious that the issue is there by design.
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>>164196127
Not anymore. They haven't been in contact with the elysium team since the 17th
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>>164195859
>questing in the starting zone will be difficult. there may even be competition for level 5 mobs, but I tested leveling a character on level 5 mobs and I got to level 4 in an hour which is when you can do quests outside of the starting zone. I don't know about you, but that's what I'm doing, provided I can actually farm on level 5 mobs at the start of the server and not have to compete with a dozen other people who had the same bright idea.
I've tried a few tactics, and I still think that actually doing most of the quests (and corpse-camping mobs) is actually the fastest strategy overall. I managed to hit L5 in sub-53 mins on the pvp server shortly after it launched playing as a gnome by mainly questing (but also killing any and every mob I could tag along the way), but obviously it'll be even harder on fresh to stick to such a tactic. Some people claim to be able to hit L5 in an hour exploring, and while I think that's somewhat dubious, I can see that as a semi-viable option for players who are lagging too hard to even accept/hand in quests.

>Don't fucking tell anyone. I figure it's safe to say it right now because it's like 4 am and only aussies will see this and autists who read through the whole thread, and you faggots in Australia won't be competing with me and other autists are probably already going to be grinding level 5 mobs.
Based on the test servers, plenty of people will be doing just that either way. I tried grinding crabs after hitting L2 in durotar, and it was sort of okay, but nothing worth keeping secret.
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>>164196051
>mfw midnight burger and I hear all the secrets only meant for aussie shitposters
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>>164195837
JUSTICE DEMANDS RETRIBUTION
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>>164196158
:^)
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>>164196176
>Not anymore. They haven't been in contact with the elysium team since the 17th
Dude, 99% of the GMs from Nost are on Elysium. And the only way why the "devs" aren't working on Elysium is because they don't want to state it publicly due to possible legal issues.
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>>164196182
>hit L5 in sub-53 mins on the pvp server
What class were you playing as?
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>>164195959
>>164196063
wow, this is very damning evidence. why hasn't anything been done about it???
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What is the best class for leveling and why is it paladin?
>set up autoattack and seal
>shitpost and refresh seals every 30 seconds
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>nobody knows the best Alliance leveling plan
>everybody is spouting nonsensical bullshit like "exploration xp" or "grinding level 5 mobs" or a mix of the two
>nobody (or very few) is going to be competing with you in the best possible leveling route, getting you to level 6 in 50 minutes
HAH, enjoy the starting zone.
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>>164196297
stop telling people
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>>164196269
Rogue. Rogues can spam sinister strike at mobs while they respawn, which gives them an edge in tagging.
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>>164196335
Fucking knew it
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>>164196312
If you're not exploring or grinding then you're questing.
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>>164196312
If you're rolling human,
>start
>get quest to go to goldshire
>go to SW after
>do quest to go to wine shop
>do quest located in tailoring shop
>take tram
>get to Karanos
>should be level 4 by now, pick up the quests there and start before everyone else in the noobs zone arrives
>tons of mobs in dun morogh to grind on
>leave dun morogh level 11 and go straight to loco modan, do initial few quests, hit 12 or 13 depending on if you did the 2 elite yeti quests in dun morogh and the quest at the bunker to kill the bear between them
>go immediately to westfall, skin got her quests and group up to kill harvest watchers, defias etc

Goal here is to get to the later stages of the defias chain ASAP so you can escort the traitor which will be impossible day 2-4 and have the DM quest for those sweet, sweet blues

oops, sorry anon :^)
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>>164196435
>level 4
2
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I'm thinking of being a dps warrior or rogue on fresh (will go as a human for swords or mace skills either way). Which is more fun and less of a pain to get prebis for?
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>>164196435
>>164196312
>alliance
>fast leveling
Lol
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>>164196503
>dps warrior
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>>164196503
>Which is more fun and less of a pain to get prebis for?

neither
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>>164196435

>>should be level 4 by now

kek every time this tickles me
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>>164194559

You're missing the point. It's not so much about needing raid-level healing ASAP. it's about levelling versatility too.

Levelling Ret gives you 2 buttons to push, 3 if you're fighting undead. Levelling Holy gives you 3 minimum, 4 vs undead. Holy Shock does decent damage for how short it's CD is and on top of that Holy has ridiculous recovery skills meaning if you overpull/get pathed into/etc you have the healing output to survive damn near anything so long as your mana bar holds out.

Plus it lets you heal in dungeons with zero issues whatsoever (You can literally flash spam the entire thing and never need to drink unless the tank is hilariously undergeared) or - if they already have a healer - you can actually do not-insignificant damage while having the offhealing capacity to prevent wipes on bad pulls.
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>>164196531
I want to finally top that dps chart dammit.

>implying I wouldn't tank instances either way
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>>164196503


If you're going to be a DPS warrior, go Horde or go home.

The axe itemization is unbeatable until you're in a position to farm Kel'thuzad.

Also Windfury, because 2H Fury in Vanilla had better output than DW fury with less itemization requirements (2H had a hitcap, DW didn't have a realistically reachable one)
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>>164196435
>should be level 4 by now, pick up the quests there and start before everyone else in the noobs zone arrives
every time
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Who /mulgore/ here

>orcs and human fags will have to compete with a thousand xiaos for wolves and boars
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>>164196687
>The axe itemization is unbeatable until you're in a position to farm Kel'thuzad.
?
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Alright, so we all agree that leveling is going to be a nightmare. How is the AH going to look for those brave souls willing to fight over resource nodes?
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>>164196601
>pressing buttons

hello anon

I am speaking to you from the prot tree with 25 points allocated

I do not push buttons and I grind mobs faster than you or ret pallies, and I can kill people 10 levels higher than me in wPvP

I just thought you should know that any post-34 leveling spec that isn't 5/5 reckoning is wrong
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Anybody want to be my love partner on fresh?
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>>164196803
Don't worry, the staff will have it completely packed from day 1. Be sure to hit up the totally non-elysium endorsed gold selling vendors.
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>>164196786
M I G H T O F M E N E T H I L
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When's alex next stream?
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I keep getting counterspelled against Shazzrah. Any timers/tips on playing around the counterspell?
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>>164197096
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>>164197035
I will be rolling horde btw
Will be your fantasy please just play with me
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HEY WHAT THE FUCK (YOU)S ARE BACK
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>>164197205

count the fucking time you retard
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Dwarf priest or orc warlock and why?
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>>164196786

Arcanite Reaper/Spinal Reaper -> Drake Talon Cleaver -> Dark Edge of Insanity -> Severance

Spinal Reaper vs Bonereaver's Edge is the last time Axes aren't the top DPS weapons for Warriors and even then Bonereaver's just barely wins out vs Spinal. After that its Axes all day every day until you can get your hands on a Might of Menethil.

DTC's proc is affected by Enrage AND Impale (so +25%, or a 300 damage proc that can crit for 220% or 660 before armor) and it's proc rate is fairly decent. This puts it above Ashkandi in terms of raw damage output for Fury Warriors (Sword Spec vs Axe spec is irrelevant because nobody specs Arms for DPS in Vanilla).

KR's proc is too infrequent to edge out DEoI's superior stats and top end.

Severance is the best Vanilla Axe available. It's also the best 2h Weapon available until you can get your hands on Might of Menethil, which requires killing Kel'thuzad and getting a 17% drop.
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>>164197209
What does the box drop from?
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>>164197341
When's his first cast and how long is the cd?
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>>164197205
It's quality Nost-code. On retail it would have a cooldown, but not on Nost.
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>>164197423
w-wait, these are 2-handed weapons!
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>>164197439
its called [Box of Nothingness] 0.5% chance to drop from KT.
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>>164197509

Fury with a 2H was a Warrior's best damage build available in Vanilla by leaps and bounds. It had less +hit% requirement (DW never caps out, 2H caps at iirc 6%) and if you're Horde, those sweet sweet Windfury procs ensure you are forever doing your best to Slam and Heroic off excess rage and doing absolutely insane amounts of damage. All you have to do is watch your threat.
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>>164194967
no
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>>164197000

Here's the problem with Prot:

All it can do is level. The gear doesn't exist for Prot to actually tank as anything other than a novelty in MC once you ridiculously outgear it.

Holy can level, it can PvP offensively or as a healer, and it can heal.

What's Prot Have? A capped reckbomb and no survivability.
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You can get second level by just travelling, there is an quest to delivery to nearby inn at 2. What else I could do to farm fast in new server?
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>>164197858
Search the vanilla database for quests in each zone and figure it out lad
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>>164197858
Just b urself
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>>164197587
>Slam

Lmao stopped reading there.
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>>164197587

Oh, and it lacked the -50% offhand handicap that DW Fury had.
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>>164194464
You're an idiot. Feign Death and drink fucking murders your DPS.
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>>164197858
buy a fishing pole and learn to fish as fast as possible. Nobody can take your fishing away from you anon. While everyone murders each other over tagging mobs and chasing down crafting resources, you can be comfy getting max level fishing.

Once you hit level cap for your particular bracket, just pay your way into some tryhard leveling groups with your profits to reach the next bracket.
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>>164198001

It functioned as a rage dump and literally nothing else. If you've got Windfury you care significantly less about AA Rage gen because you get a hilarious amount of procs and each hit in the WF Proc generates AA rage.

As a Fury Warrior with Windfury you will find multiple instances where if you DONT use slam you'll be sitting at 100 rage if you aren't mashing the hell out of Slam between BTs before Execute phase.
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>>164198068
SHUT UP. THE SHAMAN GEAR IS MINE
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>>164198103

Oh and not only did Heroic Strike not spend that excess rage fast enough to avoid capping, it also has a threat modifier attached which makes it prohibitive to use on any threat-sensitive fight.
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>>164197509
Don't listen to the shitters lmao. Only reason you would go 2handed is because of drops. Nobody can use good 2handers so you spec so that you can make good use of them.

Usually 2handers are given to Paladins and Shaman. And Ashkandi is a Hunter weapon.
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>>164198264
Damn anon you really proved them wrong!! Nice work!
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>>164194226
i want to hatefuck panzer :3
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How's this for leveling/being able to defend myself? I heard shadowguard can proc blackout, which is why I specced into it.
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7 DAYS LEFT
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>>164198231
>Heroic Strike is prohibitive on threat-sensitive fights

Lmao. To use Slam you would actually have to waste 5 points in Imp Slam which is far from a cookie cutter Fury build.
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What should I name my healslut priest(ess)?
slutty names only
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>>164198767
Puddi
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>>164198767
ClickerHeal
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>>164198767

kate
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>>164193703
can you post this build please ?
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What should I name my ret paladin?
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>>164198648

Nope, don't even need the points. Pre-Execute phase you have no other buttons to hit besides BT or WW. If they're both on CD, 2 slams is all it takes for BT to come off.

You cycle it in or out of the rotation depending on your current rage (e.g above 60, use Slam).

And during Execute phase you drop Slam completely.

>>164198987

Sure hang on.
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>>164198792
>tfw no puddi gf
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How do you know someone plays 2h fury? Don't worry he'll tell you haha
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>>164199205
Kek
>>
What class is good at soloing dungeons and carrying people when at 60?


I have a friend I want to help out way later.
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Is it worth taking +hit talent in resto tree for shaman enh build?
I mean they say enh has problems with hit and it allows you to reach hit cap easier for the cost of less powerful shocks.
Also, can I make hybrid enh/resto build to not be absolute shit lvl 60 solo, or it'll have to be mana tide totem no matter what?
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>>164198987
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sAxuMxotxhZVf0z

Is the link for it. The 1 floater point can go in either Divine Strength or Improved Wisdom.

If you prefer the CD reduction on Freedom/Protection, take Guardian's Favor instead of Precision but that hit% you don't have to itemize for elsewhere kind of hurts.

On the flipside if you take Guardian's Favor instead of Precision you can finish Divine Strength. DStrength actually gets you more per-point than Imp BoMight with Rank 7 (Tome) BoMight, which gives you ~220 AP.
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>>164198481
mind flay plus range are really good for leveling. Improved mana burn is a waste.
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>>164199374

Alternatively, you can empty out Divine Strength and max Imp BoWisdom for the extra mp5.

Just avoid improved Might, it's a trap talent that doesn't give very much per-point return.
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>>164199374
>>164199491
thank you
>>
Heard a bit about the 'hybrid' shammy leveling process (lb till melee range, auto down) should I be picking up 2h weapons once I unlock them via talent (20) or should I stick with 1h and shield the whole way?
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>>164199630
it's only 2h man
shield is wasted dps on shaman
you have WC staff and corpsemaker afterwards
it gives fucking INSANE damage from right click
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>>164199586

NP, also if you plan on doing any PvP with this build, 300 Engineering is a requirement.

Iron Grenades (cheap and easy to make, go for more rare mats if you want more damage/area off the frag). Death Ray, Net-o-matic.

Targets disoriented by Grenades take double damage from Judgement of Command.

Unstoppable Force from AV is the same way, and doesn't DR with Grenades OR Hammer of Justice stun and allows another opportunity for double damage JoC.

Get a swing timer addon too.

Enchant for Spellpower where you can and Strength/AP everywhere else for PvP.
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>Join AV
>See this
What do?
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>>164199749

Oh and keep Rank 1 Seal of Command bound for PvP as well to use against Shaman/Priests. They'll try to dispelspam you to keep seals off and Rank 1 Command costs less than the dispel.
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>>164199795
u still have 6 days and 11 hours to go.
so go buy some food snacks n drinks.
>>
Anyone else having trouble transferring their character from old nost? Been trying the last two days and keep getting "We are encountering technical difficulties regarding the token generation procedure. Please try again later."
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what do i do with all my gold that i'm never going to use after fresh
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>>164199882
I know Elysium disabled transfers for characters they deemed suspicious, or whose name where offensive. Stuff like that.
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>>164199371

To begin with, yes. Stuff like reduced healing cast time, totem mana, increased totem range, and that hit is fantastic to start off with. You'll only transition to full ele/enh once you have all of your hit gear and you're doing serious PvE where your only invested focus is damage. Pretty much, you'll only have to respec once. It works out very nicely.

I'm not sure what your last question means. The most important talent is the reduced cast time one - so long as you have int/spirit gear, then you can heal any dungeon. Don't go for mana tide unless you're a full healer.

>>164199630

If you have the right weapon, you can time LBs between autoattacks, but casting knockback even further screws that. Either spam LB no matter what, or take 2h if plan on right clicking.
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>>164199897
give to me to make my life easier

t. Dumbbankalt on pvp
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>>164199897
Sell it?
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>>164199929
Yeah definitely does not apply to me. Name is not offensive in anyway and I've never been involved in RMT. Would really like to get my character back had a tier 2 geared warrior.
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>>164200048
To be honest with you though, the token system hasn't been working for like a week and there are no signs it'll be fixed anytime soon as the former nost devs are in control of it and have been unresponsive since the 17th
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>>164199882
The token generator stopped working, look it up on the official forums. They will maybe fix it at some time in the future but maybe not. They're fucking retards.
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>>164200124
Here's Suzerain's post on the matter https://www.reddit.com/r/ElysiumProject/comments/5keo20/regarding_nostalrius_tokens_transfers/

He deleted it for some reason, though
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>>164190617
are you retarded? lol
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>>164200124
>>164200126
I just saw the sticky on the support section of the froums. Really not surprised probably going to wait a month or two before bothering with the server sounds like things are totally fucked at the moment.

Blizzard legacy servers when seriously I'd pay to not have to deal with this garbage.
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Why aren't you playing an elemental shaman?
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>>164200287
Because I like playing tank and Warrior is the only viable tank.
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>>164189674
>filename

What did he mean by this?
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>>164200248
To be fair though, it's not their fault the nost devs dropped off the map completely.
>Blizzard legacy servers when seriously I'd pay to not have to deal with this garbage.
Me too ʃam
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>>164200287
because mage is the master race
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>>164189674
Wow after 8 months Aehl finally got from level 104 to 110.
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>>164200427
>Blizzard legacy servers when seriously I'd pay to not have to deal with this garbage.
>Me too ʃam
Its funny I don't browse the general much but its hilarious seeing all the anti-nost blizzshills on /v/ anytime nost is brought up saying people only play on this server because its F2P. Yet i have talked to many players on old nost who said they would have paid for vanilla servers and seen many posts on the general with people saying they would.
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>>164200439
this desu

http://www.webm.land/w/TAhE/
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>>164196601
my argument is that you can heal dungeons and entry raids without issues as consecration into retribution.

the choice is where to put the remaining talents

Holy:
12% Healing
20% Blessing of Wisdom increase
100% mana back on heal crit
1 heal crit 2 min CD
5% Spell crit
Holy Shock

versus

Retribution:
6% 2-handed weapon damage
50% retribution aura increase
15% damage for 8 seconds on crit
8% movement/mount speed increase
5% melee crit
Repentance
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>get ganked by someone with a red name
>kill them

fuggin easiest game of my life ggez
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>>164190617
you're a fucking retard
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>>164200584
isn't one of those a blocked shadowbolt?
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Alright guys the great debate, best way to level a warrior.
2 Handed
1 Handed ; Dual wield
Fast 1 Handed W/ Shield
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So what is the power list of good to shit?

Warrior>mage>lock>???
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Do priests use mind flay instead of wand once you get it to rank 3?
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>>164200971
2h unless your dual weapons have better stats combined
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>>164199943
>I'm not sure what your last question means. The most important talent is the reduced cast time one - so long as you have int/spirit gear, then you can heal any dungeon. Don't go for mana tide unless you're a full healer.
It means can I raid as healer obviously since no one needs shams in other roles with hybrid enh/resto spec and appropriate gear but without 31 talent in resto tree and hence mana tide?
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>>164200971
dual wield
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>>164200971
always 2h, dualwield gives you a giant misschance on your auto attack, which you do not have the +hit to compensate for.
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>>164200971
2h because arms is the pvp spec and has both dps and tanking talents.
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>>164200753

You can drive a car with your feet if you want to. Doesn't make it a good fuckin idea.

Retribution doesn't offer anywhere near the improvements that Holy does to the base toolkit. Less mana, less mana sustainability, less healing power, less spellcrit.

Retribution is not a raid-viable spec in Vanilla. That's just the simple truth, man. Nor is it worth a damn in PvP when put up against the versatility and healing power of a Holy Paladin. DF Holy Lights are literally a mana-free full heal every time you use one unless the recipient is MS"d, and even then it's still 2k+ healed for FREE.

But just to humor you:

>6% 2h weap damage
>15% damage for 8s on crit

Holy Shock outweighs these both combined.

>50% ret aura increase
Useless. You demolish Rogues already as Holy, you don't need Ret Aura to do it.

>8% move speed
Doesn't stack with Boot enchant which is also 8%.

>5% melee crit
Holy has 5% crit for all holy spells (which includes Shock, Judge, Command procs).

>Repent
Grenades exist. They do the exact same thing as far as Judgement of Command is concerned, while the grenade itself also does damage.

As a Paladin in Vanilla if you wanted to succeed you unfortunately had to embrace Holy as the only viable talent spec. But that doesn't mean you automatically have to relegate yourself to being a healslut only.
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who else checking out next year if fresh turns out to be shit
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>>164201058
He might be onto something with this

>>164201078
Why?

>>164201125
The miss rating dual wield gives you is a good reason not to, but isn't the miss rating only there because you are attacking 3 times as fast?
Also 1h & shield don't take the hit penalty.

>>164201192
That's a good point.
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>>164200971
sword+shield, dont listen to any other idiots
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>>164198481
Don't skip improved fortitude.
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>>164200971
>dual wield Dark Edge of Insanity

Looks legit.
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Can i be boomkin or will everyone dodge me like the plague?

also is it good for pvp and pve?
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>>164201381
its not good in pvp
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>>164200971

DW has a serious hitcap requirement before the miss rate isn't crippling. It also has -50% offhand damage until you spec to reduce it to just -25%. Bad for levelling. Gear dependency rules it out.

Protection has insane survivability but in Vanilla Revenge did almost zero damage and Shield Slam was close to none. If you have a dedicated group to just repeatedly slam out instances it's doable but solo you'll kill way too slowly.

Arms with a single 2h is the best way to level. The miss rate is only 5% and the game showers you with 2h weapons early on so getting upgrades isn't a huge factor.

Plus the Whirlwind Weapon - which you get the quest for at 30 - will easily last you from whenever you get it to approximately level 45 or higher depending on your luck. (Protip: Get a friend to help you get it at 30. you will NOT be sorry.)
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>>164200971
>leveling
>dual wield
>1h+shield

Lmao. There's only one way to level which is 2handed. At 60 it's a different story and mostly has to do with how lucky you get with drops. But you're still using the same gear, only difference is your weapon.
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>>164201494
And this is just further proof that CC is blatantly overrated, people don't see this shit coming most of the time.
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>>164201381
>>164201524

The first ever Grand Marshal on Bonechewer was a Balance Druid named Darkmech.

I only remember this because he fucking oneshot my warrior while I was levelling with a 4200 Starfire in WPL.
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Are chinese players that bad? I played nost a lot back in summer 2015 and didn't witness any problems. Don't even remember ever seeing any chinese characters in chat.

Have things changed that much, or are people overblowing things?
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>>164201616

Dagger rogues got destroyed by Warriors and Paladins unless they knew how to stunlock and bleed kite.

Sword Rogues that knew how to stunlock could kill ANYONE except a skilled Mage.

Vs Clothies, go Ambush spec.

Vs leather and above, you want Swords. And not Hemo swords. Combat swords.
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>>164201627
I kinda like druid but i don't remember if they were good in classic

i only played mage
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>>164201328
Why?
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>>164200969
i dunno desu, i just spam my ice block script
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Leap of Faith quest is bugged
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>>164201686
it's a meme, chinks are based
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>>164201693
>Dagger Rogues get destroyed by Warriors

Rogues don't get destroyed by anybody. If they get a bad fight they just vanish, sap and reset cooldowns.
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>>164202012

>Vanish

And this is why a Warrior's first attack on any Rogue at any point in time was Rend.

Vanish didn't have a safety net window in vanilla. Any damage instantly yanked the Rogue out of stealth. Combined with Deep Wounds from Overpower and the Rogue had 2 separate DoTs on him ticking fast enough that even a Vanish -> Cheapshot was bound to fail unless you were insanely lucky.

>Vanish Sap

Berserker Rage -> Demoralizing Shout. Rogue is in combat, combat ends stealth in Vanilla. Rogue is now visible. Rogue is now dead.
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>>164195859
You can get to level 4 in an hour from purely exploration XP as fucking HORDE. Alliance have it even easier with all those Stormwind quests for literally free XP.
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>>164202149

All these perfect hypothetical situations. Gosh.
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>ok melee group, take out the healer quickl-
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>get to lvl 52
>everybody wants full 60 groups to BRD
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>>164188432

>Started out day 1 no gold sellers
>Few days in get whispered, get invited to group etc.
>Spamming starts to intensify over the week; notice gold spammer names are also starting to be "real" names and not just gibberish like Xbchavgwh
>Which would signify that RETARDS STILL BUY GOLD FROM CHINKS IN ALMOST 2017


How fucking DENSE can you be!? These fucking gooks you buy gold off of are just gonna scalp you of your account in a few months

WHY ARE PEOPLE SO RETARDEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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we could have had a new years release. it would have been so comfy.
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>>164202307
This meme is /b/ tier

sniper threads are aids and this one is in the same boat.
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>>164202241

No perfection required. It's Vanilla Warrior v Rogue 101.

You DoT him to nullify vanish escaping or vanish CS.

Dagger Rogues had to 5-8 bleed kite warriors in vanilla because if the Warrior got ahold of him for even a few seconds, the Warrior would fucking END him.
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Is it a bad idea to skip fishing entirely? I like training cooking because you just get the mats from questing, but sitting their fishing is boring. Collecting recipes is also fun.
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>>164201693
Whats wrong with hemo swords?

And what combat build are you talking about?
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Much love for you /nosg/

Though all the shitposting and drama there's always room for enjoyment at times. May you find comfort in the new year as I will.
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>>164202347
I buy gold because I have a job, so I don't have the time to farm it, like any responsibly adult, I can't spend 12 hours daily on a computer game
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>tfw died several times before level 10
retail has made my playstyle incredibly lazy
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>>164202487

>I buy gold because I have a job

honestly not quite sure how you landed that job being clearly so financially irresponsible

Doesn't matter, the gook you bought gold from will get your account soon.
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>>164202450

Hemo Swords just didn't have the burst power to deal with plate. You relied too much on luck and time, and time meant you could be bursted down.

Combat Swords had Adrenaline Rush, which meant you could basically just go full on AR Blade Flurry Evasion Rushdown vs Warriors and unless the gear gap was MASSIVE (I'm talking blues vs AQ40 massive) you would win.

I distinctly recall burning down a BWL geared Warrior with my Sword rogue using the ZG swords and ending the fight over 50% HP. Didn't even try to stunlock because he got a lucky Dshout on me and popped me out. Just went balls out and burned the guy to dust.

if I'd been daggers or hemo swords I'd have been dust.
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>>164202487
I think you are foolish dog for buying gold when you do not need to. You DO actually have 12 hours to play if u so chose to. You do not require said time to play. You can always make gold on AH but you choose to spend money on gold than food. You are dog.
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>tfw have an absolutely nigger tier ping because of all the faggot kids on christmas break watching lets plays or whatever presumably
>dont know if its going to chill the fuck out in time for launch
presently xiao and feng have better pings than me.
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>>164200971
2H, I did a few levels as dual wield to test it out since I had leveled a warrior on retail vanilla with 2H and its is pretty awful. You are constantly rage starved because getting the hit needed while leveling is basically impossible.
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1-5 Roll mage
6-0 roll rogue
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>>164200971
on my level 16 warrior so far i have +5% parry and 10 rage retain when changing stances and it is awesome. I love not dieing.
i want to get 5 points in anticipation to see how much impact it has
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>>164202395
Lmao you forget how Rogues actually have good damage and survivability. You don't need 100% stunlock to kill a Warrior unless you're naked.
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can alex be /ourguy/ again?
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>>164202702
if he ever grows a thicker skin and can handle the bant
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>>164202654
fuck you, Paladin all day erry day
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>>164202654

Watch this video. see what AP Fire can do in terms of raw damage output. Also, you get to laugh at just how bad people were at WoW PvP 12 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLEhudSh51U
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>>164202596
>Implying I didn't buy it from a reputable vendor on a reputable forum

all he knows is my character name

>>164202618
I'd rather just buy the gold, at $6/100g, I earn enough to buy 3000g daily(not that I would naturally)
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>>164202757
Just because he doesn't let little shits like you treat him like a faggot doesn't mean he should grow thicker skin.
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I want to try healer out, any suggestions? I'm leaning towards Paladin, Shaman is out of the question since I have a 60 Warrior I would be using for gold and if I choose Paladin crafting gear since my warrior has max armorsmithing/mining with almost all recipes.

I would like to play a more bulkier healer since I am used to tank. My only previous experience with healer is a few dungeons of retail vanilla and up to about level 30 dungeons on FFXIV.

It also seems like a simple entry level healer, I am obviously aware of the headache pallys have to put up with managing seals.
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>>164202927
You are litterly going to get banned.
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>>164202675


Their damage was greatly reduced by plate in vanilla.

Armor was actually a factor then.

Their survivability centered around Dodge.

You apparently forgot what Overpower did in Vanilla. It was a guaranteed crit on a 5s CD. The Rogue was guaranteed to have Deep Wounds on him the instant he hit Evasion.

As Daggers, you won't last long enough to actually kill the Warrior because you won't be able to get his back for Backstab (unless he's retarded) and the Ambush will do at best 1500 on a crit with BWL level gear.

You'll be left toe to toe fighting Plate and getting crit every 5s for 20% of your health, plus whatever manages to RNG it's way through Evasion. Plus Deep Wounds ticking as a percentage of the Overpower crits. Meanwhile since you can't get the Warrior's back (You're Hamstrung or PHowled, so 50% move) you're left using Sinister Strike with a Dagger.

Meanwhile as AR Swords, positioning is irrelevant and with AR running you can literally SS on CD and not run out of energy. The Warrior doesn't have the avoidance or mitigation (barring Shield Wall) to survive the full duration of Adrenaline Rush.

And if you get the drop on him and get a full hardlock? He's 40% before he can move.

Daggers were for fighting cloth. Swords were for fighting Warriors.
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How useful would leatherworking and skinning be on a rogue purely for lvling purposes?
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>>164202391
this has nothing to do with sniper mem-
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>>164202978
Alex why do you continue to post here
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>>164202391
don't even think that anon knows about cand
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>>164203231
LOL

like pottu locking threads right after posting in them, fucking clockwork
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>>164203231
>Ignores
>Immediately tries to send a message

true autism
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>>164203087
You can make some gear for yourself, but the AH is typically saturated with gear from professions anyways. I think alchemy potion would be more helpful. On the normal server at least, herbs and leather are super cheap, so you could go leatherworking/alchemy. Or heres an idea: go skinning/herbing for like 30 levels and bank the mats you save, then switch over.
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>>164203052
>Evasion is instant death against Warriors and shouldn't be used
>I don't use my abilities because I need ALL of my cooldowns to beat Warriors

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=26540
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>>164203231
there's no better feeling in the world than when someone tries to pull shit like this when you btfo them in an argument
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The only reason gold sellers continue to exist on nost is because people keep buying from them.

Which is why perma bans for buyers is more than justified.

If they can get some IP bans going somehow, even better.

Fuck gold buyers. How degenerate do you have to be to pay to not play a free game. Shit makes no sense.
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>>164203231
what am i looking at here?
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>>164203405

Evasion isn't instant death vs Warriors. It's the only way to delay instant death.

I don't even need to open that to know what it is. Mute was a meme and Maydie was trash tier and carried by his healers.

By all means, try fighting a competent warrior with equal tier gear on Nost 2.0 and use daggers.

It doesn't matter if it's blues vs blues or AQ40 gear vs AQ40 gear. If you're using Daggers and the Warrior isn't a complete idiot, he will destroy you the instant he gets his hands on you and there will be absolutely nothing you can do about it.
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Operation Falun Gong has begun. This is our last resort, our final solution to the Chinese question that the cucked frogs refuse to answer. We did not want it to come to this, but it is gruesome...but necessary.
The goal?
- Have the Chinese government intervene and round up and eliminate all Chinese wow players on our western democracy non communist servers.
The method?
- We report the server to the following list of Chinese security and intelligence agencies and tell them the Chinese WoW players are using the server as a method to exchange anti communist propaganda and to practice the communist regime banned religion of Falun Gong using code words like "Black Lotus" means "Falun Gong" and "Devilsaur Leather" is code for "Tienanmen Square Martyrs". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong The result? The communist Chinese locust plague that has infested our western democratic game server shall have their organs harvested and their families tortured and interrogated. They will not return to our servers and they will not DDOS us any longer. Come Home Nost Man. Report https://elysium-project.org/ to the following Chinese government agencies :
- The state council for the People's Republic of China http://english.gov.cn/
-The national congress of the communist party http://www.china.org.cn/english/China/33982.htm
-The Peoples Liberation Army which houses the internet intelligence agency http://english.chinamil.com.cn/
I did not want it to come to this final solution, but our hands have been tied. The die have been cast. When we awake tomorrow, it shall be to a fresh new communist free private server golden dawn.
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>>164203584
It's true Warriors are the only class that can beat Rogues but that isn't saying much. Since it's still a close fight and only if the Warrior is in Rank14 gear.
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>>164203557
>alex gets assravaged
>tries to ignore the guy then talk shit to him while hiding in his safespace
>you cant whisper people you ignore for this very reason
>drops the ignore real quick
>sends a really awful comeback
>quickly reignores
Its the classic move of someone who got severely BTFO and cant handle it.
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>>164203803
>only class that can beat Rogues
>mfw
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>>164203826
how do you know it's alex?
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>>164203803

Doesn't need to be in R14 gear. BWL tier is the point where Warriors are simply too much for Dagger Rogues to handle.

Sword Rogues scale well enough that they can rush down an equal geared Warrior at any tier.

Again I reiterate, Daggers are for fighting cloth, Swords are for fighting Leather+.
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>>164203834
>Rogues can also beat other Rogues
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>>164203863
>newfags
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>>164203595
Post this on /pol/ and /b/, the retards on here arent gonna do shit
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>>164203595
Also you arent allowed to bring more than 50,000 yuan out of china. Tell them Nost is a money laundering front for the Falon GOng
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>>164203863
Because picture is taken from a video where he gets killed by a level 17 hunter.
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>>164203386
Thanks for the advice. I will modify that by going skinning/mining and then switch to alch or lw/engineering for the late game.
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>>164203383
Pottu needs to hang himself, one of the biggest cancers on this server.
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>>164204107
First whisper of Redditor btfoing Alex.
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Some people are claiming that the difference between a good hunter and a bad hunter is huge in terms of dps. A really good player pulls decent dps in raids meanwhile a shit one sits at the bottom.

What part of a hunter rotation requires a good player? I thought that most you did was auto attack.
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>>164203026
oh please, they can barely manage their own server, do you have any idea of how many people buy gold DAILY on nost? and this is just ONE marketplace
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>>164202609
so you go fully down the combat tree, do you put the rest into sub or assassination?
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>>164204310
Yeah, hunter raid rotation takes the most skill.
Timing aimed/multi is what makes hunter dps, though in the end it's just easy but boring.

Don't listen to 4chan though, they think hunters are supposed to afk autoshoot.
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>>164204310
I already explained this to you.
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>>164194879
>x4 16 slot journeyman bags
you bought gold faglord
So did I but I got away with it
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>I farm gold myself!

So your time is worth equal to that of a 12 year old chink in a sweatshop?

Jesus christ, this general is literally full of manchildren

Gold selling is capitalism at it's finest, there's a clear supply and demand for the service. If you don't like it, go make your own private server
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>>164204356
Grimone cares about all players in the community, I just dont want to see you getting banned then coming back crying because it happened, They are cracking down on the buyers more than the sellers at the moment.
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>hating on /our guy/
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>>164204862
But we love /ourguy/
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>>164203863
https://youtu.be/4wjGLiLAa_g
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>>164203231
oh so alex is one of those plebs who has to get the last word in an attempt to feel superior?

what an insecure little fuck
>>
>someone lists 10 stacks of herbs on the AH for 10g over the asking price
>people coincidentally buy them

I just bought 100g, you can't prove it though, so how are you gonna ban me for it?
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>>164204998
>>164204815
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>>164204995
He has his mods ban anyone in his stream chat who talks against him.
He then proceeds to insult and bitch about them for a good 5 minutes and they cant say anything back.

Literally tumblr the streamer.
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>>164204995
Insecure is the perfect way to describe him. Also instead of actually putting forth arguments he just attacks the person, not the argument.

It's frustrating to watch.
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>>164205096
he said in a stream a couple weeks ago that he's a trump supporter

probably visits the_donald
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>>164205157
Hell he attacks people who try and help him because how dare they assume he needs help and doesn't know everything about vanilla. HE PLAYED BACK IN THE DAY.
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>>164204995
the funniest part is he is trying to subvert the whole 17 hunter meme by using it as the label for his patrons. Yet you still see his jaw clench up everytime someone brings it up.

he tries to go with the bants but ultimately fails
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>>164205194
>supports banning muslims based on empirical statistics
>doesn't support banning the chinese based on empirical statistics

he's a kike
>>
>where is the healing dude?
>>
I actually did it.
I managed to get my IP range banned for 6 months from their servers by messaging them and politely stating my reasons.

Finally I'm free, no more 1-60 leveling....
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>>164196435
>should be level 4 by now,

The steps previous to this are not enough to be level 4. Do it over, post again
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>>164205279
>>164205291
Sasuga /ourguy./
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>>164205346
>by messaging them and politely stating my reasons.
Can you elaborate?
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>>164205368
Wait what the fuck? He's a gm?
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>>164205360
the funny part is how close that list is as a viable strat if he just adds the removed steps. now it's just bait to fuck people over though
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>>164194879
>lvl26
>4 traveler's

Yes you bought gold, don't play innocent.
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>>164204496

Split. Rogues REQUIRE Relentless Strikes to function so minimum 11 in Assassination. The rest of the points are discretionary, but I highly recommend Master of Deception 5/5 at Minimum.
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>>164205408
I told them how WoW is ruining my life again and everything. They sanctioned my account for 6 months and I can't create new accounts right now.
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>>164205446
in the reddit thread he claims his guildie hooked him up. which if true is probably why he got banned.

pottu says no trading between accounts
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>>164205291
>17 hunter meme

what is this? I dont follow him closely enough to know. does he makes a lot of hunters?
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>>164205446

Glad I wasn't the only one that caught that.
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>>164204310
It's about timing your aimed shot. While you cast Aimed Shot, the amount of time until your next autoshot still counts down, yet that autoshot cannot fire until the Aimed Shot finishes. The idea is to start your aimed shot immediately after an autoshot, while using a slow enough weapon so that the 3.0 second cast time of Aimed Shot doesn't delay your next autoshot too much.

Not 100% sure since I haven't played hunter since retail, but I don't think you can autoshot for 0.5 seconds after using any other shot. That means that you can delay your autoshot if you just multishot at the wrong time.
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>>164205550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG1-lu-2E24

Guess who's the druid
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>>164205542
>pottu says no trading between accounts

damn, imagine all these new people who got bags from 60s

they're FUCKED
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>>164205346
see you on the 7th crying about how you can't get in
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>>164205550
he, a 25 druid (with a trash spec without charge or cat speed) lost to a 17 hunter in wpvp on K2.

promptly raged and then quit the server and now has a huge stick up his ass about it/the server in general
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>>164205594

Bingo. Also can't fire while moving. Hence why hunters in Vanilla had swingtimers so they could stutterstep out Autoshots while moving in PvE or PvP.
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>>164205446

making money on nost is incredibly easy, i had 4 travelers backpacks by 22 and im >>164205329

all you have to do is fish and herb while leveling, is owning the best bags so early really some major concern for suspicion?
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>>164205542
>no trading between accounts

...

so no trading or selling any item in the game at all?
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>supports trump
>is against gold-selling(capitalism in its purest form)
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>>164204310
you need exact timing between autoshot, multi-shot and aimed shot. every millisecond off has a direct impact on dps since their cooldowns will all affect one another in an endless cycle. its very simple on paper and impossible to pull off flawlessly in practice
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>>164204107
>Feral
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>>164205737
how much gold did you buy from the chinese?
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>>164205838
Wasn't trumps entire campaign based off of the Chinese stealing jobs and money from America?

I'm not american so I don't know a lot about him.
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>>164205838
Goldselling is mostly a Chinese industry. Most of the gold buyers are Chinese. They need their own server to shit up with their goldselling "culture."
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>>164205737
KATE CONFIRMED GOLDBUYER

REPORT HIM
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>>164205895
>retailfag enters the thread spouting his retarded bullshit
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why does my camera freak out when using mouse look?
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>>164205870

literally just herb and fish everything on your way to a quest

its like killing every mob except you get gold instead of xp

most of my money came from herbing / skinning while waiting for BG queue to pop up at 29

>>164205895

whats wrong with feral? its the best spec for leveling in vanilla
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>>164195875
Lndi mad
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>>164205838
>americans in charge of understanding their own candidates talking points
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>>164205929
true, but not all gold sellers are chinks, far from it.

Most trump supporters are "Le free market will fix it" cucks, but now they want to implement left-wing economic rules and regulations
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only one more week until we can kick this shilling fag from discord
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>>164205481
so something like this then?

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fhe0oZGoVbbVzxfoxM

is sword spec good or should i swap it for riposte?
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Clean Up,

https://github.com/shirsig/Clean_Up,

is making items unusable until relog. Any ideas / other addons?
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>>164206150
>but not all gold sellers are chinks, far from it.

Wrong. An Anon looked up where every single gold selling website that was being spammed was being hosted and every single one of them without fail was from China.

Try again.
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>>164206306
Wow what a slut. Typical Legion player with low IQ. Only women play that game.
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>>164201494
UI? Looks like elv design or something, is there one for vanilla?
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KTL threat meter only works with people who have it installed too? Is this correct or am I doing something wrong if it doesn't seem to do anything?
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>>164205838
You mean
>supports trump
>loves the chinese and ignores how theyre shitting up the server just like how they shit up the world
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>>164206456
pfui is an elvui knock off i think, and there's one more somewhere
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>>164206464
That is correct.
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>login
>disconnected from server
for what purpose?
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I want to PLAY fresh right NOW
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>>164189767
>40+ hrs to level 20
I would pay for a recustom.
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>posting in elysium genera discord
kill yourself, redditor
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>>164202225
>purely exploration quests
>3 stormwind quests that reward 100exp each
>level 4 in an hour
Meanwhile I'll hit 5 in under 30 minutes.
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>im now receiving fake gold selling mails
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Guys I'm worried

Suddenly I can't speak on any of my characters, when I whisper /say anything it doesn't show up

Whats going on?
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>>164206702
chinked!
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>>164206906
>lvl 5
>sub 30 minutes
>on the fresh server launch

glhf kike
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2018/09
JUST
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>>164206252
just sort your own fucking bagholy shit
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>>164206976
see: >>164206980
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>>164206514
Aight, thanks anon
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>people find out I'm a girl
>they start fighting each other over me and ruin their friendships by trying to impress me
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>>164206256
there are independent gold sellers though, I guess a free market cuck like yourself would suck up to the coorporate gold sellers
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>>164207114
wtf I never did that...how do I fix this?
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>>164207140
LONDON
O
N
D
O
N
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>>164206183

Looks good to me. Happy Hunting.
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>>164207140
>questing with someone i suspect to be female
>finish questing
>she says thanks and starts leave
>tell her to wait
>open up trade
>give her ALL my boiled clams
>she accepts trade
>says bye again and quickly leaves party
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>>164206183

Could dump a point of Reflex & point of Malice for Improved Kick to be unjukeable.
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>>164207214
Should I write a GM do they read this?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JGxIrlDE7w

is this alexensual? it sounds exactly like him
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1-2 priest
3-4 warrior
5-6 hunter
7-8 rogue
9-0 druid
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>>164207140
>girls in my guild find out I'm a boy
>won't stop sending me creepy pics of food and their dogs

What do I do guys?
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http://vanilla-wow.wikia.com/wiki/Warrior_builds/Level_60

why are all the talent links ded
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>>164207593
send the girls to me
I'll take care of them
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>>164207140

>make a male character
>has a male name
>do my best to act like a guy
>people still somehow find out

I don't fucking get it, how do you people do this every time? Do you just assume someone is female when they play slow / badly?
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>Goldbuyingbull is fucking my wife again

HOW DO WE STOP THEM NEETBROS?
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>>164207421
i need the point in reflex to go on the next tier, its either that or deflection

i could do 1/2 kick though
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>>164207676
hey (you), this is pretty good bait
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>>164207593
>>164207673
PLEASE
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>>164207140
s'all good
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>>164203052
>As Daggers, you won't last long enough to actually kill the Warrior because you won't be able to get his back for Backstab

aw man, i really wanted to go daggers too! if only there were abilities that rogues could use in order to stun or incap their opponents, so they could use backstabs! such a shame these abilities do not exist!

> BWL tier is the point where Warriors are simply too much for Dagger Rogues to handle.

i could have sworn that i've seen dagger rogues shit on warriors but i must have been mistaken! they are obviously too much to handle!
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Human or Nelf priest?
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>>164208276
if you're not going dwarf priest its because you want a cumdumpster priest, fem nelf is the best choice for this
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去吃大便 :^)
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>>164208276
Human is the objective best PvE priest. Don't let retards try to sway you with the dwarf bullshit. Alliance tanks need to l2p.
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le aunt poisoner
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>>164208369
>implying chinks can read white devil scribes
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>>164207314
>>164207421
what about this instead?

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fhj0oZG0EdrVz0roxM
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>>164208369
do you think they give a fuck?
as soon as they find out these gold sellers are playing on a Western server where people are spamming about Taiwan etc they'll be mad as fuck
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>>164205737
>all you have to do is fish and herb
fishes have to worth their weight in gold then considering how little herb stacks go for
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>>164208291
wow rude
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>>164207676
>make a female character
>name it [girls name]
>play a support class (other mmo)
>people are very nice, helping out leveling and with items
>woah, community is great
>realize why
>never login again
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>running around barrens
>shit draw distance + chink horde and lots of players in general
>no nodes of any kind to be seen
>cant find mobs until you bump into them, provided they aren't already dead
>every single remotely clustered quest mob is being camped by at least 4 niggers

please tell me these french cuckold retards have something in place to mitigate this shit on the fresh server.
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>>164208506

a single wild steelbloom flower is worth 1g on nost pvp right now

fadeleaf goes for 50-70 silver each

swiftthistle is 30-70 silver each

wildvine is 1g each

stack of briarthorn is 1-3g depending on the time of day

stack of kingsblood is 1-3g depending on the time of day

none of these are rare herbs in any way, i constantly bump into clusters of 2-5 herbs everywhere i level

fishing is a lot more straight forward in the sense that you are guaranteed to always find pools in certain zones so you dont have to run around at all usually

oily is 20-70s each depending on time of day

stonescale is 50-1g each depending on time of day

firesnaper is usually cheap but its everywhere so its easy to get a stack of 20 and that sells for 1g+ usually

you get tons of stranglekelp from fishing which always sells for 1g for a stack or more

people love buying up rumsey rum black label despite not being able to use it, goes for 2-5g a stack

sagefish delight stack goes for 5g+ and you can get one in 3 minutes of fishing in STV since there are pools literally stacked on eachother

if you are not swimming in money on nost you are doing something seriously wrong

i mean shit if you are feeling REALLY lazy just sit in the AH and buy up any wild steelbloom that goes for less then 1g (retarded retailbabs put it up for joke prices all the time) then simply relist it for what the current price is and enjoy your free profit as it sells instantly

you can do this with any high price herb, I made 60g from just buying up and relisting fadeleaf for example
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>>164208802
I did that on K2 accidentally. Was wondering why the guild gave me preraid bis boes/crafted items using the gbank funds when some of their core had worse gear than me.

then i logged on discord and used my mic. lol's were had as a few said they thought i was a chick, I just laughed as it all clicked into place. the officer who organised all my gear never really spoke to me again even though we ran tons of 5mans.
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>>164208490

Looks good too. You'll quickly notice Riposte hits hard as hell and is absolutely devastating vs any Rogue or Warrior not using a weapon chain. Most swords builds have the same core talents with a few preferential ones (Riposte, Imp Kick being the main 2).

I preferred Riposte, DESU, but Imp Kick does bretty gud vs healers in particular.
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>>164209145
hey man everyone lies on occasion there's no need to double and triple down like this
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>>164208427
>he thinks you only fear ward the tank
>he doesn't realize tremor totem is essentially an AoE fear ward
nice bait
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>>164209296
Fear Ward makes Nef P2 cake vs Tremor usage.
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>>164209145
kill yourself
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>>164209296
go back to retail, newfriend
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>>164209296
>he doesn't realize tremor totem is essentially an AoE fear ward

it really isn't
FW is so great because it prevents the tank from getting feared for even 0.5seconds

with Tremor even if you time it perfectly there's a chance that while the tank is feared for 0.5sec the boss will cleave into the raid
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Is he right?
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>>164209690
kek i'm aussie and plan to roll pally on fresh
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>>164209654
Lok'thar Ogar, friend.
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>>164209690
Not really. I'm Swedish and played a Shaman in Vanilla. Wasn't good at it, admittedly.
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>>164209805
i don't speak orcnigger
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>>164209690
I'm a slut from Europe and want to play priest, wow.
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>>164194464
You don't FD&Drink, you fucking spam runes and pots on CD you dumb mother fucker.
Confirmed for never having done serious raiding as a hunter.
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>>164209874
t. hunter falseflagger
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>>164209874
got to get that big shaman dick
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>>164210045
Nice binds, Yak.
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>>164210045
>lvl 60 mc gear warrior
>can't one hit a fucking durator scorpion
tauren "warriors" everyone
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Is Thrall the moses of wow?
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>>164210045
>2017
>people still uploading webms to "test quality"
just open it in a media player or browser you retard
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>want to play hunter
>dont want to play stunty dwarf or gay nelf
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>>164204974
talking shit and ignoring, jesus fuck thats faggoty. Ive done that many times.
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>>164210203
Yes, he's nigger Moses. Med'an is mixed-breed Jesus.
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>>164210203
Thrall is the cuck dad of WoW and everything wrong about the Horde.
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>>164201247
How does that build (31/8/11) play in PvP, do you still swing a big fucking weapon and shit?
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>>164210424
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>>164202347
9/10 people that buy gold are chinese themselves.
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>>164210424

Yep, 2h all the way. You keep a 1h + shield as a fallback for turtling up vs Rogues (macro it to equip and selfcast Blessing of Light for OH SHIT situations where you need a massive self-heal without DFavor), but you use a 2h with Command. Your main damage sources are Seal/Judge of Command and Holy Shock. White damage barely matters beyond just being a bonus (even though it'lll still crit in the 800-1200 range depending on gear and target).

The Grenades are to create openings to bring your healing power to bear in a fight or to create extra opportunities to Judge command for the x2 vs stunned.

Death Ray and Net-o-Matic have obvious uses.

If you want to go full on tryhard, you can sub Iron Grenades out for Arcanite ones for the silence but that shit'll get expensive REAL fast.

Iron Grenades are cheap, easy to gather mats for (walk around Alterac Mountains for a bit, you'll be drowning in Iron) and offer enough disorient time to get a Holy Light cast off.
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>>164210517
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>>164210517
Hows this.
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>>164210517
>>164210845

>ret
>pvp
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>>164210517
>>164210845
Do like this dude instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD01NG2-HVo
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>>164210664
That actually seems fun, having some holy smashing power while being able to dispel and heal competently. Suppose you'd need some spelldmg gear for it to be viable though; t2 at least?

If I wasn't going Horde to play with friends I'd definitely check that build/playstyle out.
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>>164210778
>>164211134
Please stop posting Big Daddy in this manner.
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How do I get around the token system not working?

I'm too burned out to level my warlock to 60 again
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>>164211471
1. You don't.
2. That's all there's to it
3. Deal with it
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>>164211289
I can't fucking believe people are still posting videos from vanilla to try and show how "viable" a class in pvp is.

It has been 13 fucking years. The average player who is still playing this game is a lot better than the average player back then.
And wpvp is now full of engi tryhards.

You won't do shit as a paladin against someone who knows how to play the game. If you actually get close to winning they'll just run away unless they're a warrior.
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What race+gender has the best rogue animations?
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>>164211651
Human Female
Undead Female
Dwarf Male
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>>164211594
>people are good at the game now

Yeah because level 110 can one shot level 60s.
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>>164211651
undead male
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>>164211471
all your characters are belong to zhang
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Strength or Spirit for a levelling Paladin?
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>>164211904
Golden Coif armor.
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>>164211892
So what you're telling me is that there is no point in playing since everyone gets hacked?

Think ill just wait for blizz vanilla
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Guys I'm going to into Priest and I was thinking of speccing into Healing focus over both Spirit Tap and Wand Specialization.

Here's my reasoning:

1. Wand Specialization is great but looking at quests and stuff it's unlikely that I'll be able to even get a wand until mid-teens so they will be wasted points.
2. Spirit Tap isn't as important as on a low pop realm where you can constantly kill one mob after another after another, because everything is going to be camped to hell I'll likely only be able to kill one or two mobs before I have to wait. In other words even if I spec into it I will still have downtime. Also regen is pretty gud at low levels anyway.
3. Because competition for mobs will be fierce it's a good idea to be able to tag two or three mobs as soon as they spawn, the problem being that this is likely death for a lowbie priest. Shield helps a lot but it's on a long 15 second cooldown and it's also far less mana efficient than a heal, so here having mad heals is probably a good idea and Holy Focus provides that.

Thoughts?
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>>164211651
Undead female is without a doubt the best.
Sucks i have to be male UD cause i cant have a bunch of u n iggas trying to fuck me.
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>>164212128
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>>164212128
Lesser magic wands are a dime a dozen on the AH, and you can use those at level 5. Hell, if you are on the PvE server I'll mail you one for free for being such a huge faggot.
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>mfw people are unironically waiting for new
>mfw people don't understand basic economics
>mfw people don't realize chinks are saving money to fund their payless two-week new grind
>mfw people think it's a good idea to wait for mobs or get exploration XP
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>>164212231
I mean on the new realm. Who is going to have Enchanting at such an early date, and how could I even afford the wands with no gold anyway?
>>
>it's that time of the day where the Alliance discord is great because the circlejerk is asleep

comfy times ahead
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>>164212291
The wands are literally just "DE some green weapon and find a stick", you can make then at enchanting level 1
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>>164212362
>you can make then at enchanting level 1
no you can't
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>>164212362
Also pretty sure the patch it starts on ench wands are garbo and still white items.
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>>164211651
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>>164212405
Still pretty fucking early on.
>>164212578
Oh, wands are OP as fuck even as shitty white items, because guess what. You don't have to MB every .2 of a femtosecond
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>>164212619
That underhanded spin for special 1h really suits Rogues desu.
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>>164212626
level 10

how quickly do you think people are going to be able to get 10 green items to disenchant? not until partway into the second zone. and they are going to use those mats to make their friends wands, or sell the wands, only nobody has any money.
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>>164208427
Is Feedback good? Seems shit to me.

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?spell=19275
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>>164211346
Judgement is the preferred gearset, yes. Grand Marshal gear works just as well though. Realistically obtainable BiS weaps are Herald of Woe or the Grand Marshal's Spellpower 2h Mace.
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>>164195495

I fucking love this video, I remember watching it back when it was on those shitty warcraft movie sites back in '07. Thank you for linking it.
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>>164212949
So it's going to be shit on the fresh realm for 6 months or so until the proper gear can be attained? Meh.
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If I start streaming Nost and spamming my name here will you guys call me /ourguy/?
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>>164213062
I would consider it if you aren't a manlet.
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>>164213062
didn't work for staysafe

and people do it ironically for Alex
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>>164195135
>someone gets sent gold
>banned for gold buying
>streamer gets sent gold
>free pass
>>
/nosg/ status: BTFO
https://www.reddit.com/r/ElysiumProject/comments/5l9lp9/can_we_take_it_easy_with_the_accusations_and/
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Would grinding rfc with the same group over and over for some levels be faster than questing/grinding considering the huge population on fresh?
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>>164213047

It'll work in Lightforge, just not as well.

Pretty much the same as every other PvP build.
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>>164213251
>btfo
>no proof of innocence while the chinks keep getting unbanned

lol
>>
why isn't P banned from the alliance guild or every other guild yet
>>
Who's better at 1-shotting squishies out of stealth, a feral druid or a sub-rogue?
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>>164213507
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>>164213507
Night Elf Hunter

:^)
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>>164213468
>stop talking about me in thread!
>talks about himself in the thread all day
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chinks don't sleep
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you don't even want to know what happened next :^)
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>>164213379
Cool. Leveling a Paladin seems chill as fuck so I'll just do that if my friends flake out on me.
I assume playing two different accounts at the same time that aren't helping each other out is prohibited?
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>>164213715
Why are you drunk so early? it's like 8am.
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>>164214058
Because he's a failure in the eyes of his father and fills the empty void with alcohol.
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>>164213634
>(You)s are back
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priest or warrior?
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>>164214412
>lndi posting other /cgl/ sluts
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>>164214412
>I will never get my sister to pose naked with a /nosg/ sign to get billions of (You)s
Why do we have to hate each other so much?
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>>164214412
disgusting, you're a disgrace to your father
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>>164214412
Is that a guy?
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So I got bored, and tested out that discovery leveling idea. Did it with the orc/troll starting area, and was somewhat surprised at how quick it was. From what I could gather, this is the route I setup myself.

http://pastebin.com/VmLjfjTd

It can get you to level 3 in ~35 minutes with no comp. It takes it a bit further than that, but only if you want some extra FPs and a better ending grind zone. Lemme know if I missed anything worth adding, since I somewhat want it to hit a little more exp without effort to get a clean level 4. Also disco=discovery exp, SR=spirit res, and rest should be easy to understand.
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>>164214412
Show face. I need to see if I could distinguish him from a woman.
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>>164214412
the perfect amount of thicc
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>>164215306

When it comes to trannies you can usually just look at the hands and that'll tell you all you need to know.
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>>164214412
i wanna be slutty too
and have fun and have jelly autistic haters
but I'm a permavirgin instead
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THEY ARE ADAPTING, THE CHINKS ARE USING NEW TACTICS!
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>>164215285
Heh, thanks for the inside scoop moran. Now you'll have to compete with ME in this route.
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kek tranny btfo
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For the launch chaos, is it better to have a group or just two people, running out of the starter area asap to grind to 5 or so?
I guess for humans at least, the mine discovery quest and the delivery to goldshire are guaranteed, but everything else will be a shitshow in the little whatever-its-called starter territory. northshire? i forget.

Also, on the NE side of elwynn where all those gnolls are, do any quests even send you there?

thank you and god bless you
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>>164215559
You think I'm new to this game? I left out 1 crucial part of the plan that makes it crumble, unless you pay me 3 silver ingame for the last piece.

Yeah but really, it's impossible to "fuck someone over" with this, the entire server can do it, and not really affect others. The only problem lies afterwards with grinding.
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>>164213965

Levelling early on is kind of slow. It's autoattack for years and judge on CD. You'd actually want to get Command before starting down the Holy tree for levelling. SoR just doesn't cut it with a 2h.
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>>164201989
pottu....
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>>164215760
grouping isnt efficient but if you do group do it as two max because the xp you get as more than that becomes so unworth the extra players. obviously this is only for grinding and not for kill named mob quests, ect
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>>164203803
>what is a free action potion
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is there an addon that shows raid frames only? i dont like player and target changed by luna addon
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>>164216021
it sucks a lot, yeah. I actually go for guardians favor first for pvp but not sure how smart that is. I just hate getting kited and i feel like as soon as i get into a contested area every skeleton wizard is going to want to fuck my butt.
i could be a moron tho. Either way the build the dude linked above is really great in my opinion. Maybe redoubt instead of devotion but not sure it matters that much.
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>>164216269

Devotion is to dick with Rogues/Hunters/Warriors a bit more. and that was me.

Aura Jockeying is pretty central to how you respond to threats in PvP.
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Is devouring plague really that good? It seems to have a really high mana cost and typically you kill people before the dot has much use anyway.
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>>164216247
You can configure Luna to do just that...
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>>164215784
Wouldn't it be easier to do the discovery leveling route while on the way to a place like Mulgore? Somewhere without as many players as Orc/Troll or Undead starting zones, but still have decent starting quests?
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>>164216391
if i disable them from luna they dissapear completly. I wanna have the classic UI, just need luna for showing raid frames so i can mouseover.
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1 (one) week til fresh
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>>164216391
>>164216527
ok nvm i found out. im retard sorry
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>>164216527
You have to disable the Luna equivalent, then enable the Blizzard one. Two different settings in two different categories.
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>>164216357

DPlague is AIDS if you can't remove it. It's a big part of why UD Shadow Priests were so popular. Literal facemelting.
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>>164212949
does judgement armor even has +spell damage?
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>>164216453
That's exactly the guide I made. You can either hearth back to Razor Hill if you hate Mulgore, or stay in Mulgore. If you want to stop right at level 3, then you end up at Razor Hill.
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>>164216342
hey nice, thanks for that build. It's similar to how i was leveling a paladin before but I was too lazy and real life got in the way.
Yeah, i switched auras a lot - was neat coming from retail and suddenly having a fuckload of keybinds to play with, made me feel like I had "something" for almost any situation.
Also like you said earlier, can confirm how essential engineering was. Obviously I'm not an expert but I rushed to at least have iron grenades and net and that helped immensely. I didn't go out of my way to fuck with people but being a huge nuisance to kill made leveling a lot smoother.
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>when you're leveling warrior without gear and you're getting 1v1'd by same level mobs
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Best professions for my mage?

Thinking about tailoring +skinning
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>>164216734
+201 Damage/Healing if you have 8/8.

And that's before enchants.
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>>164216743
Oh, I didn't even read it. That's how much I care about your guide, fuckboy.
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>>164216891
tailoring/skinning for maximum profit
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>>164216891
Herb+tail.
Can also make a lvl 5 alt for DE anything later on to sell as chant mats.
If you're wanting to be tryhard pvp, you'll need eng.
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So if youre a shadow priest how exactly will you get gear?
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>>164216357
Yeah. A second DoT is amazing, though it scales like shit so it does a little less damage than SW:P. It heals, and then heals you extra with vampiric embrace. I use inner focus when I want to use it so it's free.
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>>164216969
Cared enough to respond though? Thanks for the free (you)s I guess.
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AHAAHHAHA
HAHAHA
>HAHAHAH
HAHAHA
>HAHA

FRESHKEKS KEKED BY TBC!!

CALL MEER
>CALL MEER
CALL MEER
>CALL MEER

WE GOING TBC BOYS!
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>>164217090
>shadow priest with 8 debuff slots

kek

just heal and take the spelldamage gear nobody else wants
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>>164217090
Like anyone else, PvPing and raiding. Though you'll be last to get loot.
>>164217161
With enough warlocks, you can actually take a shadow priest with 8 debuff slots. But yeah, a healing shadow weaving specced priest is far better.
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>>164217153
<Video Games> ww@

A fresh hg will unironically be the best BC server in years, its pretty much to bc what nost is to vanilla in terms of quality
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>>164217153
>NOO I WAITED 1 MONTH FOR MY FRESH REALM AND NOW NOBODY WILL PLAY IT AND GO ON POLEGROUND
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>>164216357
Yes it's amazing as the other anon said if you can't remove it you are fucked.
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>>164204974
LOL WHAT DID I JUST WATCH

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>164217153
NOOOOOO
Why now you dumb poles!!!
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>>164217153
>xp x2
nice fun server
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>>164204974
I can't fucking watch this stupid fucking moron and his dumbass donation bar.

>MOAR MONSTER ENERGY LOL
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>>164217153
>every player will loose his character

That's not how you spell lose. Also, what about the girls? Shouldn't it be his or her character? I'm loosing all faith in that server.
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>>164217153
HOLY SHIT HYPE. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS REAL. Also they fucked up because they needed to hype this more. It's all about how many people you can pull day 1 or the server will die.

>XP: 2x
Gross
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>>164217153
Anything un-blizzlike will invariably ruin the leveling, questing and gear experience.
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>>164217161
>>164217260
But I dont want to have to respec everytime I want to pvp. Can I just stay shadow spec and not tell anyone?
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>>164217153
plsno
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>>164217153
Is this a legitimate threat to fresh population?
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>>164217153
seriously considering to roll
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>>164217472
>Can I just stay shadow spec and not tell anyone?

You sure can!
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>>164217472
not as a priest since casters will be lining up for your PI
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>>164217507
>>164217451
>>164217361
>NOOOO I'VE WAITED SO LONG TO PLAY VANILLA NOBODY WILL ROLL ON FRESH NOW REEE
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>>164217590
fuck off /v/, memeground is never taking off
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>>164217472
Yes, my guild on old PvP had a dedicated shadow priest before 16 debuff slots. He just mind blasted off cooldown. There was even an anon that pugged as a shadow priest with 8 debuff slots. The thing is, with like 4 warlocks shadow weaving makes up for your shit DPS. Also MC+BWL are easy so guilds want to have a shadow priest around for when the debuff slot is increased to 16.
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>>164204974
>he-he's lucky i dont-he's lucky i don't have daash
THIS is /ourguy/?
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>>164217153
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>>164217725
nope
we don't have an /ourguy/ right now

looking for a new one
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>>164217725
>responding to a 3 hour post
autism
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>>164209849
Sid?
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>>164217507
its shut down for 2 weeks right at the launch of fresh and its a majority polish server with gummy tbc releasing soon™.

it might get 2k or something but its not getting a nost-tier pop
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>accidentally invite the hot chick i was trying to inspect

i just wanted to look at dem titties. do human females have the biggest rack in all of azeroth?
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>>164217837
Nah
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>>164211289
>isn't using an aura the entire first fight

yeah no

this doesnt prove anything
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>>164212128
>>164212754
>level 10
Don't get spec until that.
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>>164217841
yes
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>>164217813
What are the requirements?
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>>164217841
Proportionally it would be Gnomes/Goblins. Overall size would be Tauren.
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>>164217839
>gummy tbc releasing soon™
honestly I'd rather this than hellground, but I doubt gummycraft will be out within the next year or two if at all. I'm fucking sick of playing with poles and their stupid language.
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>>164218051
be handsome
single
good at the game
don't use roids
tall
stream
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>>164217507
Not really. Hellground's population is almost exclusively Polish. It has some of the worst swings in online count out of any private server.

When /vg/ was playing there, we would go from 1.8k at peak to about 100 online 7 hours later.
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>>164218163
Sounds like you're after a boyfriend
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>>164218194
>>164217839
>wrathbabies that don't know there was a time where it had always 2k+
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>>164218051
So far the requirements have been:
>genuinely bad at the game
>pretending about mmo experiences
>scamming people
>making shit up constantly
>raging butthurt about "virgin nerd gankers" followed 10 min later by attempting and failing to gank a hunter 8 levels below you
>HGH
>balding
>below 5'9" is probably a requirement as well
>lives with parents
>lie about going to law school

There could be other important qualifications for /ourguy/ but those are probably the big ones.
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Alliance guild on fresh: name has not been voted on as of now

add one of these to get an invite to alliance guild discord.

Erlik#4852
qlurf#6906
Infamy#5916
Madti#7077
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>>164217153
>mfw
I loved tbc. class balancing was better and i really liked the addition of blood elves and draenei
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>>164218378
>class balancing was better
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>>164218163
I'm not handsome just average, but I'm single, good at the game, don't use roids, tall, and I don't stream.

What class does /ourguy/ play?
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>>164188493
PvP and premade BG sure but raids lmao
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>>164218247
what if I am!?

>>164218458
>and I don't stream.

into the trash your application goes
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>>164218446
it was a little better if you are an Hybrid
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>>164218503
We're looking for /ourguy/ not your guy
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>>164218378
TBC > Vannila > LK > Shit > Rest of xpacs

Only problem with lk was Lfg and cross realm pvp battle grounds. Quit around mid cata.
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anyone else writing down the names of all the normies that won't be in discord today? I'll try my best to avoid them on fresh
fuck normies
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>>164218615
define normie
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>>164218615
yea honestly
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>>164218702
definition:
celebrating NYE instead of being on discord
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For raiding/dungeons would it be better to have a wolf do howl near me and other range dps to increase dps output? or send him out to do dmg?
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>>164218378
I feel like the classes got a lot more fun in TBC. A lot of iconic spells were added, especially for Mage.
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>>164218378
Is that a guy
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>>164218818
no
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>>164218818
Does it matter fag
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>>164218615
Can you write down the names of all the people in discord? I want to make sure I avoid them all, as they're actually so stupid they have a second guild chat for no reason other than to cause more cliques to form.
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In light of the recent debate, I have taken the liberty of renaming all dungeons by the new naming-convention where they are to be named after their last boss. Let's see how many of them YOU can guess in this new system that makes all the sense in the world!

Ragefire Chasm is no longer RFC, it'sB
Deadmines is no longer DM, it's VC
Wailing Caverns is no longer WC, it's MTD
Shadowfang Keep is no longer SFK, it's AA
Stockades is no longer Stocks, it's BT
Blackfathom Depths is no longer BFD, it's AM
Gnomeregan is no longer Gnomer, it's MT
Razorfen Kraul is no longer RFK, it's CR
Scarlet Monestary has 4 wings:
Graveyard is no longer SM:GY, it's BT
Library is no longer SM:Lib, it's AD
Armoury is no longer SM:Arm, it's HTSC
Cathedral is no longer SM:Cath, it's HIW
Razorfen Downs is no longer RFD, it's AtC
Uldaman is no longer Uld, it's A
Zul'Farrak is no longer ZF, it's CUS
Maraudon is no longer Mara, it's PT
Temple of Atal'Hakkar is no longer ST, it's SoE
Blackrock Depths is no longer BRD, it's EDT
Lower Blackrock Spire is no longer LBRS, it's OW
Upper Blackrock Spire is no longer UBRS, it's GD
Dire Maul has 3 wings:
Dire Maul East is no longer DME, it's AtW
Dire Maul West is no longer DMW, it's PT
Dire Maul North is no longer DMN, it's KG
Stratholme has 2 wings:
Stratholme Live/Scarlet is no longer either of those, it's B
Stratholme UD/Baron is no longer either of those, it's BR
And finally Scholomance is no longer Scholo, it's DG
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>>164218926
As you can see, in this new system noone will ever be able to confuse Dire Maul and Deadmines again, so it is clearly superior and non-contradictory.
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>>164196754
>implying I wont be running to mulgore as an orc which takes a whopping ~10 minutes along with the ratchet, crossroads and camp turajo flightpaths

epic my friend simply epic
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>>164218926
Congratulations, you are retarded
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>>164218895
Yeah, if that was a guy it'd be hot.
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You have 10 years to tell me why PoM pyro is a bad pvp spec

>can 1 shot almost anyone every 3 minutes
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>>164219104
Why? I'm just following the "Deadmines is shortened to VC" argument to its logical conclusion.
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>>164219143
no iceblock
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>>164219143
>every 3 minutes
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>>164218338
Does alex really live with his parents? He looks like hes in his mid 20s.
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>>164219465
>mid 20
>living with parents
thats normal in murrica
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>>164219465
Yes, he's like 24 and lives with his parents while going to college. He also has no job and just streams so he can "save money to rent his own place."
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>>164219346
Yes, presence of mind and arcane power cooldown is 3 mins

>>164219275
Iceblock is an ability used to save your life. Instantly killing the threat is a lot better.
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>People laugh at me because I'm going for Full D1 set as Priest
>Still able to heal everything without problems

Why did people become so "UH MUH GOD YOU'RE NOT BiS NO INVITE FUCK OFF"
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>>164219572
Really?
I graduated with a 4 year degree in 4 years, like you're supposed to, and moved out a year later.
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>>164219645
>"save money to rent his own place."
Not even his mother believes that shit
>>
I know half the people here are probably 18-20 and live with their parents, but it's unbelievably eye opening once you have your own place and move out how stunted your development is living with family.
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>>164219680
youre not instant killing anyone, especially if you dont crit. I can just rocket helm you and theres nothing you can do about unless you use impending doom, but a shitter like you would never be able to.
then i just proceed to first aid pot or whatever to reset fight and you are there with your one shot card nullified
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>>164219572
no it isn't, most kids move out when they are 18 to go to college

if you live with your parents in your mid 20s you're a certified loser
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>No one has asked me why the devs turned the queues off during "Chinese daytime", I'm happy to ask if you would like.

>As for the rest of my defensiveness, it's more bemusement/exasperation because people keep coming up with pet theories about how we're profiting off gold (absolutely not true, we banned 300 gold selling accounts in one day), or are somehow favoring the Chinese when in reality it's solely because we do not wish to punish an entire nation of people at the behest of a vocal minority who are demanding something without seeing the big picture.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/comments/5l6hm6/elysium_devs_are_making_a_chinese_and_russian/dbtyhrx/
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Who /shitpostingtheirwaytomidnight/ here?
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>>164219781
>Wasting shitload of money because _______
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>>164218763
Anyone?
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>>164219781
This, its why people like Comfy are so fucked up. Living with your parents and having them take care of you when you're adult is completely harmful to your development as an individual.

Like these kids don't even know how to do their laundry or apply for a job, those parents are breaking their children doing this sort of thing.
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0-4 rogue
5-9 warlock
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>>164219915
I'm /sickwithstrepthroatandcanbarelymove/ here
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How does it feel knowing that this general is even worse than /wowg/?
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whats some games like second life where guys can fuck me?
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>>164219932
You're still wasting a shitload of money if you live at home. Your parents just feel bad and you're crippling them.
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>>164219809
>3k damage guaranteed as a non-crit

I would use it only as a last resort. Basically you cant win since I can easily take out the initial 1-2K extra health you have with fireblast, frost nova and CoC.

gg kid
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>>164219845
Chinks are fucking animals and deserve to be banned. They're all little rice farmers
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>>164219943
>Like these kids don't even know how to do their laundry or apply for a job, those parents are breaking their children doing this sort of thing.

That shit is completely inexcusable.
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What''s a relatively cheap way to get my engineering to 100?
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>>164219645
He's taken some classes but he's isn't going to shit right now. He's said like three different things about his school, including saying law school.
Translation: he is lying and not going to college.
Which is fine, just lying is weird.
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>>164219932
>building credit and working on a mortgage is wasting money

Rofl.
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>>164218926
>someone typed this out
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>>164220021
yeah, i can just see you backpeddal when your 10% hp, try to pyro and the opponent uses bubble iceblock or whatever
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>>164220172
>someone worked that out
Powerful shit
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>>164220076
Blasting powder and bombs
You can mine all the mats you need to easily get like 250
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>>164218926
This is one of the most autistic post I ever seen here.

Congrats !
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>>164220004
>You're still wasting a shitload of money if you live at home

>no need to pay rent or extra bills
>wasting money

American economists everyone, tell me is you dick also chopped up?
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>>164220087
Why do you care so much about what some random youtuber does with his life? You autists are fucking strange obsessing over him so much.
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>>164220087
All he fucking does is lie.
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What expansion was it where Hunters had 5 yard longer range than casters?
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>>164220263
>American economists everyone, tell me is you dick also chopped up?

You don't pay your parents to live with them?
You know utilities cost money, right?

What the fuck kind of person are you?
You do pay for your food and gasoline, right?

Where the fuck do you think that money comes from?
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>>164220205
Activating pom and arcane power takes all of 1 second, next second the pyroblast is in your face. Good luck having the reflexes to stop that especially considering you never expect it since no one uses the spec.

Your move kiddo
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New year new thread
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>>164220263
Most people who live with their parents live with them because they aren't economically independant.

Living on your parents health insurance, them paying for your phone, doing chores for you, feeding you, etc are all extremely detrimental to you as an individual. You're missing out on crucial life skills and are only hampering your development as an adult by getting taken care of hand to mouth.

Living on your own, developing credit, getting a mortgage, and starting your career is far better for you than sitting at home playing video games all day long 7 days a week because you're lazy and your parents enable you.

You think because you're not paying for anything you're somehow not a drain economically on your parents?
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>>164220280
Yea he's a big fat manlet BALDNIG liar
But he's our liar
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>>164219845
>or are somehow favoring the Chinese

Someone ask why they blatantly allow the chinese to ignore server rules and do not take measures to prevent rule breaking to begin with, Mainly to do with the servers """"official"""" language, and are exceedingly harsh with "more easily moderated"/english players. I highly doubt they have an army of gook fluent GMs reading chinese PM logs and interrogating chinese gankers and banning people for violating safe spaces.
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>>164220087
If he wants to go to law school he better stop playing fake wow servers and get on that shit.
He'll be in law school for awhile.
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>>164220076
All the mats are pretty easy, just need to mine a lot. Look up some mining stuff, there are a few pretty solid spots - the cave in wetlands is a great one for getting a ton of mining levels in a short amount of time from mining the whatever-its-called quest ore that respawns fast.
Also i've found on packed servers mining tin to be rough, if you can solo the first 2 rooms of deadmines (like if you're a paladin, for example) there are a few nodes in there you can keep resetting.
A ton of other decent spots that no one seems to go, like silver in western ashenvale along the mountains (no quests there, also a shit load of animals to grind on).
Once you get to mining iron there are a lot of nice spots, especially caves, where you can grind and mine.
Then with all that mining you'll have a really easy time getting eng up.
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>>164220448
No, he isn't. He doesn't even care about Vanilla or Nost. He uses it to make spending money.
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>>164220329
>You don't pay your parents to live with them?
No and nobodies does this in the rest of the world you amerifat

>You know utilities cost money, right?
You know these "utilities" would cost much more by living alone?

>What the fuck kind of person are you?
Not a brainwashed amerifat

>You do pay for your food and gasoline, right?

No and yes.

>Where the fuck do you think that money comes from?

Their pensions and my job.

American parenting everyone, making brainwashed retards since the 900's
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>>164219943
What if you moved out at 15 and moved back in with them 10 years later because it's much cheaper to live in a space that has paid mortgage and no rent, while working enough hours to pay for bills + sustenance?
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>>164220478
The LSAT is heavily logic based, someone like Alex will never get through it. He is delusional if believes he can get into law school, let alone finish it.
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>>164220564
You're totally fucking wrong. I use to pay my parents 250 dollars a month to live with them, and most respectable families require that too.

>You know these "utilities" would cost much more by living alone?
No they wouldn't. There are plenty of apartments that pay utilities.

So you live in europe? I guess it's different over there.
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>>164220625
>No they wouldn't. There are plenty of apartments that pay utilities.
Yes and they're usually expensive...
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>>164220690
What city you living in? Try moving.
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>>164220589
You're an idiot for not commuting then, paying for a mortgage is way better for you economically long term than it is living with your parents.

Save your money, buy a place.

>>164220625
>250 a month

I pay that just going out to dinner a month, jesus christ you kids need to get out and live on your own.

>There are plenty of apartments that pay utilities.

Yeah and they are expensive as hell, have you never lived on your own?
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>>164220267
>saying an obvious liar is a liar
>ROFL Y U CARE OMG LOL AUTISTIC MUCH?
Come on, it's not like I'm camping him, just saying he's kind of a weird liar. Why even go out of your way to defend that?
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If you don't live in a green area I pity you.
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>>164220394
>doesn't have ice barrier
>doesn't blast wave
>HURR I WONDER WHAT SPEC HE IS

retard
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why the fuck should i have to take care of myself?
it's my parents fault for giving birth to me

>>164220625
kys normie
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>>164220690
>Yes and they're usually expensive...

... When a city is too expensive for someone to live in, they move.

>I pay that just going out to dinner a month, jesus christ you kids need to get out and live on your own.
You spend 250 eating out a month? Holy shit do you have no concept of money? I can spend 250 for an entire months food budget on groceries and I cook myself.

>Yeah and they are expensive as hell, have you never lived on your own?
My apartment is 785 a month plus 100 in utilities, flat fee. I'm not sure where you live but it must be New York.
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>>164220797
>>164220797
>>164220797
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>yuropeon mommysboys
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>>164220625
Your parents don't love you? I'm 24 and don't pay my mom a dime. She works 2 jobs to afford this house, and still doesn't ask anything of me. Maybe if you were a better person, your parents would actually love you.
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>>164220618
It honestly doesn't matter, he's not going to law school, he made it up.
I'm sure he's taken some classes but he's not currently attending shit no matter what he says.
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>>164220835
>She works 2 jobs to afford this house, and still doesn't ask anything of me. Maybe if you were a better person, your parents would actually love you.

That's really fucking sad...
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>>164220824
holy fuck, what is wrong with europe?

that is actually sad
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>>164220741
>paying for a mortgage is way better

Spotted the indoctrinated murfat.
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>>164220909
So your parents didn't get a mortgage, they bought their house outright?

Spotted the dumbfuck European.
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>>164220434
I know that better than you retard, what you don't understand because you've been heavily brainwashed by consumerist surroundings (and your parents definitely failed in educating you) is that you move out only when you are going to share the house/apartment w/e with someone, maybe them be friends, a gf or wife or w/e you want, nobody outside dumb amerifats is stupid enough to put such a burden on himself especially with nowadays economy nor historically speaking when people lived with their family until they died out and inhered the properties.

It's extremely funny seeing idiots like you two globbing up everything you've seen on tv shows.
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Looking for a leveling partner in mulgore
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>>164220956
It's incredibly easy to get a two bedroom apartment and share with a friend.

I'm not sure what you're smoking, but you're a retard.
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>>164220804
When you work in business dining out is apart of the job, I work in aircraft supply and constantly have to wine and dine clients and even my boss sometimes. 250 is a drop in the bucket compared to what you can spend on a big night.

Like I said, once you finally get your own place and a real job you'll understand the concept of money and resources a lot more, as it stands it seems you've never held a "real" job that pays a significant income, let alone one you could survive on alone.

You're paying rent, not even a mortgage, aka you're pissing away money. Save your cash and buy a place. I got my first property when I was 22, if I can do that anyone can.
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>>164220751
>EU
lol
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>>164220938
Old farm with outlying buildings was bought cheap with cash in hand. Buildings renovated and used for race horse breeding.
No mortgage required, m8.
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>>164219707

>i am actively putting in effort to get shitty gear that's worse than anything you can get in a dungeon
>wtf why do people keep calling me a shitty player
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>>164221010
>When you work in business dining out is apart of the job, I work in aircraft supply and constantly have to wine and dine clients and even my boss sometimes. 250 is a drop in the bucket compared to what you can spend on a big night.

You ... Wine and dine and it's not paid for by the company? What the fucking shit?

You work for a big aircraft supply company and wine and dine clients and your boss... and go home to mommy and daddy every night?

You're a fucking idiot. You're talking to someone who has a 3 bedroom townhouse in a cheap city, I've never had issues. You're the only one fucking lying here.

I can't get a mortgage for another couple of years, and you're an idiot. Paying rent is not pissing away money, it's building credit and reliability when people check my payments.
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>>164221010
>Save your cash and buy a place. I got my first property when I was 22, if I can do that anyone can.

Didn't you just say you were living at home?
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Suzerain admitting they don't even have the Chinese speaking staff to support Chinese population:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/comments/5l6hm6/elysium_devs_are_making_a_chinese_and_russian/dbu8k41/

Also, they were lying, BG chat isn't public chat apparently:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/comments/5l6hm6/elysium_devs_are_making_a_chinese_and_russian/dbu8hqa/
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>>164220909
You think paying rent is better than paying a mortgage and owning your own assets?

I can't even comprehend that level of stupidity, it doesn't even make sense m8. Most mortgages are cheaper than rent would be, how do you not know this?

>>164220956
Yeah I'm an idiot building my credit for the future and paying for my own property and not someone else's mortgage.

>>164221120
We are a Boeing subsidy, only a certain percentage of dinners are covered by the company budget and it is usually capped, hence me paying out of pocket. Wine alone can get over 1k easily depending on how many you have.

Paying rent is NOT building credit and reliabilty compared to getting a mortgage, I don't know what kind of fucked up shit you did to yourself economically where you can't get a loan to buy your own place, especially if you claim to be able to afford a 3 bedroom townhouse in a city. That doesn't even make sense economically.

>>164221183
No, I never once said I was living at home, there is a lot of people talking so you probably mixed up my posts, I moved out when I was 18 when I went to university and never moved back in, you know, like most normal people lel.
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>>164219845
>vocal minority who are demanding something without seeing the big picture.
and what is the big picture? if the chinese are not supporting the server financially then how the fuck is the community benefitting from their presence?
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>>164221316
You don't OWN anything as long as you're paying mortgage. The bank owns your place for as long as you're paying it off.
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>>164221316
I wasn't eve narguing wit hyou, dumbfuck. I was arguing with the morons who think it's fine to live a t home with mommy and daddy until they're 30.
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>>164221391
Paying my own mortgage is far superior than paying someone else rent. How do you not understand that concept? This is like homeowner 101 lol.

>>164221397
Yeah and those kids are morons, like this idiot who genuinely thinks having a mortgage is somehow worse than paying rent (??).
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>>164221316
>Most mortgages are cheaper than rent would be, how do you not know this?
A house costs more than just rent, both in terms of additional expenditure and taking on risk levels people can be averse to. The limits it puts on your mobility can also be detrimental to an individual's career.
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>>164221484
The one paying rent has the economic freedom to move out with a 3~ month agreement of termination. Anyone who is in debt (i.e. paying off a mortgage) can not claim to be economically free.

Not sure why you're arguing this with me, though. I paid rent when I lived on my own because taking a big ass loan when your economical and social situation is unstable (studying, not married etc.) is fucking retarded.
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>>164221697
Who said anything about a house? Buy a condo and work from there, that is what I did. And yes, my condo was cheaper than renting would be by almost $300. Not to mention it is my place and I'm not paying someone else's mortgage.

You don't start big, you start small and accumulate your networth over the years, my wife and I are working on buying our second property once this mortgage is up.

>>164221879
>what is moving out and renting out your property

This is what most people do when they have multiple properties under mortgage, its called "rental property" and can generate significant income due to the fact rent in most urban cities are significantly more expensive than a mortgage would ever be.

You're argument makes sense if you're in your late teens, very early 20s and still in school, then yes, rent a place, but if you're in you're mid 20s (the original argument) you should have your own place by then and not paying someone else's mortgage. That shit is just economic suicide, you're literally pissing away your own money by not investing in your own future.
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>>164220824
38% of Americans age 20-30 live with parents
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>>164221331
>and what is the big picture?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Coudenhove-Kalergi
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>>164222079
Stop assuming that everyone lives in a country with your exact housing situation, m8.
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>>164222205
Then why bother arguing if you live in a shit hole where you can't even afford to move out?

You're irrelevant to the entire process then, lel.
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>>164222297
>hurr if my argument is invalid you live in a shit hole

nice one fgt
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>>164222347
I mean it is, you literally just admitted you live in a place where you can't afford to be economically independent, if that doesn't scream "I live in a shithole" I don't know what does.

I'd suggest moving, lol.
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>>164217153
count me in ladds, sorry i can't go through ranking again, not that autistic
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>>164222423
You can be economically independent without taking loans, which is quite the opposite as you are not free or independent as long as you are indebted.
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>>164222519
I mean you can, do you not understand what a mortgage is and how its different than paying rent?

You're building your own wealth, not someone else's.
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>>164217268
im in senna
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>>164222719
In both situations someone else owns your housing (landlord, bank). In one of the situations you are free to change housing if you so please (with a small window of termination), in the other you are not.
If you are 100% sure that you will use the same housing for the 20-30 years that your mortgage will run for (and have to pay increasing amounts due to interest rates), then taking a loan could be beneficial.
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>>164223062
Once again, you can move properties and maintain a mortgage if you have a decent income. You're acting like a mortgage is a death sentence economically when its really the complete opposite, my mortgage for my condo will be paid for via third party renters for the rest of its lifespan generating me income that exceeds the monthly accounts required by the bank.

I'm sure once you get your own place and go into the process of acquiring property you'll figure this shit out.

Rental properties are like cheat codes to life m8.
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