/domg/ - Dominions General

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Also your obligatory disapproving kitsune

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Monstergirls

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Monstergirl degenerates BTFO

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>when a commander who commanders japanese demons with a dieased item fights a blind headless vampire for ownership of a holy artifact

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>>164112361
Also nice bless helheim

Hey admin, are you going to do anything about Ys staling for the third time in a row?

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Today_Local_Domg_Man

JOIN THIS MA GAME PLEASE I NEED TURNS OH MY GOG

>>164110980
Wrestling is just like anime, based wwe

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>>164115317

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>goons

>>164110980
Literally just shao kahn.
Mortal Kombat mod when?

>>164117801
Fuck off, Nuclearmonkee.

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>>164117801

>>164117801
>>164120021
remember when that SJW cunt everyone was girl-fellating in IRC turned out to be cheating and got driven off

>>164120995

You mean the one that got triggered on a regular basis and pretty much drove off any new players? Maybe it'll be worth to play with the Goons again.

>>164120021
No Nuclearmonkee, no Nuclearmonkee, you are Nuclearmonkee!

>>164121903
Yeah that one. The one that got drunk and deleted games she was hosting presumably while looking at other players turns.

Problem is her fanclub are still core members of the community as far as I know so the potential is still there.

>>164122220

Last I checked, half of the playerbase pretty much loathed her, but had no real power to kick her out. What happened?

>>164122337
she got caught cheating and it turned out she'd been doing it in every game she was in. Plus apparently she ended up even more psycho than usual for a bit. It's kind of weird though where they draw the line, she was already shitting up chat constantly, especially after her female representation in Dominions thread on desura didn't get universal support. (because literal goddesses aren't enough, half of my chaff has to have little spritely tits)

>>164122457
But there is tons of girls in dominions.

>>164121903
Dont you have to pay to use something awful or something?

>>164122457

She was clearly mentally unstable. Glad she's gone though, unless she has come back under a different username of course. That's something I wouldn't put past these sort of people.

>>164122718

Yes, an account costs :10bux: , I got mine way back, playing Dominions 3. The community is mostly ok. Got some amusing threads at times.

>>164122457
>>164122751
>>164122220
What was her username?

>>164122998
Man I would not be here if I had to pay for it. I'd probably be out doing something productive with my life or something crazy like that.

>>164122636
She was mentally ill and self medicating with booze, don't expect rationality. Only thing that seemed reasonable there was maybe more chicks for Sauromatia since they're based on the Amazon legends.

>>164122751
If she did it'd be pretty noticeable but I never went back to check. Finished up my games that I couldn't get subs for and got the fuck out when I realized how cancerous the community had become.

>>164122718
Yeah and I've never regretted spending 10bux more in my life.

>>164123106
She changed it a lot. Only one I remember was modpud. She played Arco in one of their LPs.

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>>164123168

>Not paying for 4chan gold

>>164123213

>That feel when there are communities worse than 4chan

This is a strange yet unexpectedly pleasant feel.

>>164123430
4chan split with SA for two reasons. One was Moot wanted to be able to post about his underage anime waifus without shame. The other was SA was getting too faggy even for him.

>>164122457

How was she cheating and how did she get caught?

>>164123430
Dom4 community is pretty chill in general. /domg/ might be retarded, but at least it's good-natured and retarded/

>>164123565
Hosting games and checking other people turns with master-password.

>>164123695

How'd she get caught?

>>164123545

I only have experience with Goons from two communities, EVE Online and Neverwinter Nights.

EVE they seem like a chill bunch of people who are mostly trolly, though their leadership seems fairly shit.

In NWN, they were the special snowflake club, who'd come into RP servers as their own private groups and conspire against everyone else. Instead of actually roleplaying, it always became "goons vs pubbies", which was highly disruptive for actual roleplaying servers.

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>>164123695
Didn't she also use her own mod, buffing the nations she was playing?

>>164123565
What the other anon said. Don't know how she got caught actually. Must have been pretty blatant for her to have actually gotten called on it though.

>>164123785
Goonfleet was the last bastion of golden age SA for a long time. Not sure what it's like now.

>>164123824
Yes. It was a pretty good mod besides that though desu from what I remember. There were some players in the goon community that knew a shitload about Dominions so could keep that in line to an extent.

>>164123785
>In EVE, they were the special snowflake club, who'd come into the server as their own private group and conspire against everyone else. Instead of actually roleplaying, it always became "goons vs pubbies", which was highly disruptive for actual roleplaying servers.

>>164123937
>were
>knew
Oh boy.

>>164124193

They knew too much.

>>164124237
this

Wait have they still not found The Demon and Flavahbeast's bodies?

>>164124345
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>>164124843
Get in chat.

>>164124935
I am there.

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Year 2017 of Ascension Wars soon.

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>>164127034
JESUS CHRIST IMLERETH GET BACK ON THE BOAT, I ONLY RENTED IT FOR THE 12 HOURS

So, where's that one guy that wanted to start an RP match?

>>164128980
Dead, avenged for the death of my brother

>making us send the turn on new year
What a monster. Why don't you give us one more week?

>>164129339
*teleports behind u*
sigh..wrong, kiddo

*casts souls slay with 900 pen*

>>164128980
Here but not much time now. Anyone that's interested pipe up, maybe talk about settings, age, and mods among yourselves. I'm leaning towards vanilla withworthy heroes myself. No strong preference for age.

Also thinking that since it's a dumb autistic rp meme game a pretty map is probably better than a balanced one. So if anyone has any recommendations for map porn feel free.

Later tonight or tomorrow I'll try to be less a piece of shit and actually do shit on my own.

Why is CoE4 so... basic?
Might just be because I'm playing Dryad Queen, but aside from having some depth in magic, the game is really barebones. I'm essentially just ferrying freespawn around and watching fights. It's like the game is still in beta.

>>164130296
ILLWINTER GAME DESIGN
I'm confused by it too, they likely wanted something simpler than dominions to play with but they also stripped out everything that isn't acquiring resources, ferrying stuff around and using magic rituals.

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>>164130296
>>164130464
it's simple
>make original game for turbo autists
>lets make it casual
>surprise surprise the game is so basic turbo artists won't play it but still obscure that normal autist won't touch it

have a anime picture too while we are at it

>>164130464
There's so much stuff that's just not there. Even if they wanted to simplify things, I can't understand why they haven't included stuff like post-battle reports.
I just don't get what the main draw here is supposed to be.

>>164130889
They actually did, and they're enabled in MP by default. In SP you had to RUN THE GAME WITH -b command line command. There are also --autosave and --rename.

>>164131024
>In SP you had to RUN THE GAME WITH -b command line command
Illwinter quality game design.

Dear Arco,

Midgard is helping to remove spooks. Please do not get Malakaled into stopping them from helping to remove spooks.

Love,
The Living

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Dear Bogarus,

u wot m8.

Love,
Arco

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>>164133705
>dear Bogarus
>mesanger from Midgard

>>164133897
refer to
>>164132905

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>so many freespawn satyrs that i don't even know what to do with them
>stop trying to upgrade them and just make a giant horse of rapegoats
Maidens beware.

>>164133705

I don't even border Lemuria

>>164134017
Is this some sort of CoE Pan/Ermor crossover?

>>164134017
>Grand Necromancer casts Soul Drain

>>164134139
This is the apathy that lets Lemuria destroy the world

>>164134404
I am but a humble shopkeep. I just want to develop items and ever more powerful artillery and sell my Battlespace Solutions to the highest bidder.

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>>164134148
Yes, but with more rape.

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1300 Rapegoats and their Forest Friends against 400 Jewish Giants.
Of course, since you barely have input at all in CoE, this isn't even exciting.
Especially since I have so many units that none of my archers or mages will ever come in range of the enemy.

>>164050110
It'll be better.

>>164130068
Story events on, unironically
Common events
Everything else default
EA?
Vanilla with WH works for me.
And Ragnarok Comes for the map

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>>164137473
>Ragnarok Comes for the map
please not this shit with bad starts again

>>164138664
t. TNN

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>>164139915
Won't even deny it.

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>>164140137
>thank you for playing summod

>>164140137
That's less than 50 gold per turn. What are you even bitching about.

>>164140486
it's a pretty big deal in the 1st couple turns of the game

>>164140486
It's the second turn. It's like -2500 - 4000 gold if you count the whole game.

>>164140137
>Literally getting mad that people don't want to live in creepy elf town

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Just found some old folder:
*opening the box:"

>>164140618
Kind of. Barely. I don't end that many turns with less than 50 gold left in my treasury. Some very specific expansion strategies might sometimes be delayed by a turn which sometimes results in one province less in total expansion. More than likely that small amount of gold will be eaten up by the pile of small but mounting inefficiencies that build up over the course of a game.

It sure it a bad event to get on turn one, sure. It's worse than nothing. But I don't know that it warrants 4 g's in fug is all.

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<---Epic

>>164137473
Ragnarok's starts aren't the best. Maybe Valanis, or Glory of the Gods?

Also, I would highly recommend magic enhanced for muh immersion.

>>164142264
nice

As Caelum, do I take an awake, or a rainbow for national summons?

>>164142572
Glorious. Dominions needs more drawfags, if only so I can have more variety when it comes to backgrounds.

>>164142671
I'd assume the calculated autism required to enjoy dominions keeps away most artists.

So only a special kind, a rare breed of autistic artists will make their way here.

>>164143025
But some exists: the map artists

>>164142572
>>164142264
>>164142671
this looks like pymous map style drawing

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>Dispel successful
Phew. No need to thank me, world.
Also did Ermor teleport his capital into space or something? Why is it so hard to find

>>164145173
I fucking know right?

>>164142490
I'd go with this man's suggestion. No real preference about age.

>>164143702
It is.

>>164142490
Valanis suits me fine. Voting for EA

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Today_Local_Domg_Man

What has local /domg/ man done today? We'll find out if you join this game! All skill levels welcome

>>164146186
Man, you know a map's shit when fucking Valanis is rec'd over it.

As an aside, Valanis is also a shit imbalanced map. Just not nearly *as* shit.

>>164149875
funny enough one of my favorite games was on Ragnarok
Where my bizarre boys at

>>164150402
I still regret attacking china

>>164150634
Which one were you?

Congrats Vanheim you still found a way to stall even after all the extensions

>>164151380
The one with a stupid bless

>>164150634
Land war, asia, sicilian, etc.

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Cirno does it again!

honestly if he had tri-bless eagles and not tri-bless jags he probable would have won

>>164152137

No it actually went just as we expected it to go, well within our predictions and expectations considering the pd expenditure and income reinforcements.

He just lost half his army.

>>164152137
Huh.

I should probably open up that turn. I'm surprised I'm still alive.

>>164152137
So does this mean it will take Malakal's team around 3-5 turns longer to win the game then?

>>164152137

>equal numbers of sheshai and jaguars
>half the sheshai die

god you lost more gold in sheshai than his entire army is worth

>>164153598
It's Tribless against 1.5 bless. I'm doing what I can, but I'm on my last legs, and all anyone else is doing about it is taking my border provinces.

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Hang in there, Mari, I believe in you

>>164153992
Is he getting attacked by Ragha? Ragha is looking pretty scary.

>>164154589
Does it have the shark demons?

>>164154589
Changes?

pls tell me its TNN

>>164154589
>>164154646
I saw the devil rays on discord. They're sick

>>164154646
[GASHUNK INTENSIFIES]

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in other news elves got BLACKSTEEL'D

>>164154397
Not yet, I don't think. Ragha sure got big.
But C'tis has retaken basically all of northern Mari in the last turn or two

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How's this for the upcoming RPGame map?

>>164155390
Looks gloomy

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Latus Lemuria here.

If there are any people in this room who still think that we should continue this game, raise your hand.

Patala, it's been fun, but let's be real here, okay.

>>164155590
Give that monkey man a medal

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>>164155740
He clearly wants to win this stupid game.

>>164155330
Man I have no idea whats been going on. I really should have invested in scouts.

>>164155524
Well, given how fucked the world is during the average ascension war, it's a rather appropriate setting.

Perhaps a post-apocalypse set after the pre-EA ascension war?

>>164153790
Your left flank got surrounded by jags and shredded, which was where most of your losses happened. I think that preventing that flank would have reduced your losses significantly.

Not that it'd matter long term, nobody seems to care about mictlan and jotunheim running away with the game.

>>164156329
>The team of two experienced players, including one of the winningest players, picked two late game nations
>No one rushed them
HMMMM

>>164156424
>The team that did received no support, and was backstabbed while doing so.
>>164156329
I would have loved to prevent that flank, but I can make an anakite every turn. I have two provinces. Send help.

>>164156191
Gath lost his cap but hasn't gone AI (a real American hero).
Replacement Utgard rolled over replacement Abysia. Funny how that works.
Mari and I have been fighting C'tis for like half the game, memeing one another with assassins and assassination spells. I think he might be out of empoisoners now...

>>164156329
>>164156424
what do you expect the vanheim player is Polish, they are all in cahoots

>>164156424
Yeah, might as well call GG now. Their amazing lategame picks have 2x the land of anyone else and no gank is happening.

>>164156503
You had enough, just most of them were on the other flank or behind your line.

A line or double line would have helped, I think.

>>164157109
Noted. Starting to think I should have been the Kouhai in this.

>>164155390

Goodness that's a pretty map

>>164142502
Caelum expands extremely well with Spire Horn Warriors, with alpha strike from even a modest group routing most indies instantly. Despite having troops that are actually good in pitched battles (Raven Guard) LA a bit less so since LA indies are stronger against lance charge from those low-res troops, but LA Caelum expansion isn't bad either, certainly not bad enough to require an awake.

Dormant (or even imprisoned, since you probably won't be delayed much if at all in your ability to cast Daevas/Yazatas, although you probably want dormant for site searching) seems like a fairly natural choice, although there are other reasons to make the pretender wake up earlier than getting a decent expansion (for example, Caelum raiding is second only to bats and they can get thunder strike batteries up early, but there's a brief period of weakness in your ability to fight pitched battles that an enemy might try to exploit and pretender can be used to fill that gap).

>>164155390
That's fucking gorgeous, but also probably unbalanced as hell.

>>164155390
It looks nice, but I can't really tell what's supposed to be what. Therefore, it's perfect.

>>164157195
Considering Cirno has 2 wins, I figured all the Sempais would have at least 5-6 wins under their belt desu.

>>164154589
Can't wait for Oceania to be buffed, then C'tis will actually be the worst EA nation in summod.

With Hinnom providing close competition.

>>164142502
In general, it's smart to default to either a major bless or an awake expander unless you have a specific midgame plan that requires your pretender to pull off AND isn't available on an awake (eg - Soul Contracts for Abysia or thug summoning diversity for MA Ulm). This situation doesn't really come up for the Caelums.

Taking an awake Azi lets you get access to national D summons for EA Caelum, and I consider it a default unless you want your pretender to do something specific that an Azi can't. You do not have native astral site searching for the good summons, and the Azi helps you get significantly larger.

MA Caelum also can probably benefit from an awake, since you can easily afford all the scales that you want with an inexpensive monster, and MA Caelum is a midgame nation that needs to snowball to actually win before nations with better blood or SC access pull ahead. An Azi or a Shedu will work for giving Evil or Good summons, respectively.

LA Caelum already has built in access to the 'evil' summons, with F random Harab Elders, but is like EA Caelum in that it also lacks astral mages to site search for the good summons. Personally, I'm fond of taking a bit of blood on a Maneater for Bloodstone access, but I can see the use for a Shedu to break into astral after you've finished expanding and then forging crystal gear to give you easier access to big battlefield spells (and, if the game drags on for a rather long time, some national summons).

In all three cases, you can still get strong scales with an awake monster, and none of them really relies on sacreds. Backloading your power with a rainbow is almost never a good idea, especially when you can already get a bit of added diversity with an awake god.

>>164159090
EA Pelagia will probably be worst, desu. All of the other UW nations will have new toys to beat them with.

>>164158973

Cirno only plays Sauromantia tho.

>>164159497
Pretty sure Atlantis doesnt get anything new. Then again they dont really need anything new in EA.

>>164159639
Ah, that's true. EA Atlantis was already good.

I actually think EA Pelagia could be cool as a coastal-looking mage nation (they have 75g 2 path coastal mermen mages), but while they can research well they can't do anything particularly cool with their magic and their amphibious troops suck.

>>164159823
MA Atlantis could use a little love though.

>>164159823
>and their amphibious troops suck

having recruitable shark tritons isn't bad at all m8

>>164160041
Yeh. They have the same thing as EA Pelagia in that they have efficient coastal mages and expensive sea mages, but both suffer from really shitty troops

>>164160156
>amphibious

>>164160156
>shark tritons
>amphibious
Pick one anon.

Sideraspists are decent, actually, but they suffer both from requiring that Pelagia be on land in the first place and from having high-ish res cost for EA and being, well, coastal. The coasts tend to mean fewer land connections, and EA Pelagia doesn't even get recruitables out of inland provinces.

I think that the quick-dirty fix would be making all of their current coast-recruits into land-recruits, especially the mages. I mean, they're called Explorers.

The other problem with Pelagian Explorers is that while they're good lab rats, only 1/4 are good battle mages.

Mermages are even worse, costing 20 more gold, losing adept researcher, and trading the chance at astral for a chance at W2.

>>164156814

>funny how that works

I tried to get a NAP from him the first turn in and he immediately invaded. I even tried to parlay with him after he was in my border, but he was pretty intent to either get my shit or die trying.

I can't really blame him though. It looks like he jumped into a pretty tight squeeze and he just wanted to make a hail mary at whichever neighbor he thought was weakest (so naturally the guy who just staled for three turns). Either that, or he was suiciding with style.

>>164160506
>>164160673
EA Pelagia's just generally shit.

MA Pelagia's real claim to fame is its "rush anything UW" sacreds. EA Pelagia not only doesn't beat R'lyeh UW (even in vanilla), but MA Pelagia has much better stuff for fighting on land.

If you look at MA Pelagia's toolkit, all of the stuff that they rely on most is stuff that's missing in EA - useful battlemages in their mystics, triton wielding amphibious guys and sacred amphibious infantry that, while expensive, CAN actually fight, and as many acid evokers and green lion summoners as you can gear up to take onto land. EA Pelagia trades this for... H3 on their king dudes and N1 on their Pearl Mages - and even then, their price reflects both of these additions that, in most cases, don't even help.

Got 8/30 needed.

Summod 0.73 will be used once it comes out, as well as Worthy Heroes. Game is still EA, unless someone gives me a similar looking MA map that accounts for all the nations.

Thrones are 6/15, and yes, 40% throne requirement is sufficient for a game this size.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=FourthTurning

Lets try not to have people AI year 1 without due cause (Xibalba flying a dragon on your capital turn 3 is fair).

>>164163181
Thoughts on including ME?

>>164163732
>[Nether Thing spam intensifies]

>>164154589
Will Retaus and Theurgs for pythium get special cult powers as well in this one?

>>164164356
It got nerfed, though

>>164163181

Is that 15 level 1 thrones?

>>164164764
level 2

>>164163732
The next one is a certain possibility, but for the current one I simply want to make sure that the throne configuration allows the game to end in a timely and orderly fashion, instead of seeming to require a global concession.

For that I want a minimal amount of mods. Summod is a must because acquiring an Oceania player otherwise would be fucking impossible.

It occurs to me we might want to see how many people are actually interested:

http://www.strawpoll.me/11995847
http://www.strawpoll.me/11995847
http://www.strawpoll.me/11995847

>>164155390
I fucking love this even though I have no idea what it is but not sure about others.

>>164169147
Votes are coming in faster than I anticipated

>>164169298
>autistic fags like to roleplay autisticly
Big surprise Still deciding who I want to be

>>164155590
>>164155851

Are you ready to surrender spooky man?!

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>>164169819
And our game is still relatively lively. Check out my other monkey game. I skipped my six months of singleplayer, but now I get a chance to make up for it.

>>164155390
How many provinces is this? I like the idea of post-post apocalypse being explicit.

>>164172742
http://steamcommunity.com/app/259060/images/

This is the source. I would tell you the exact number of provinces but I'm about to pass out.

>>164174191
Fucking hell steam and your URLs.

It's at bitly, address of1QQ0Rem

>>164174191
>>164174406
There are some nice maps on there.

>>164169819
>>164170092

A new challenger approaches... anyone with that much autism is someone to watch.

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WIZARD AID

>>164177930
Wizards are great and all but you probably need more than 5 guys blocking for them.

>>164177930
>tfw dead snek waifu

...I've already designed my hopeful pretender and we're nowhere close to starting yet and haven't even agreed on settings. Help.

https://github.com/sum1won/summod/releases/tag/0.73

Adds AI norec

Fixes xibalba bug, Therodos bug, LA Pythium bug,
supayas don't get mrnegates easily spears, don't fly underwater
making isle of saos give the correct units,
making seasonal thrones not UW
Creeping Doom castable UW (there you go, oceania fans)
Skeletal Legion actually diseases, but it is also actually mrnegateseasily, and Alt 6->5
Army of Rats now actually causes battlefield fright, and it now 3 gems instead of 6

Capricorns 360 gold->330

Capricorns get blood magic

New summons:

Angelfish: A1W1N3, 100%AW, +1A on land, +1 W on water. Conj 7, N3W3 caster requirement, 40 gem flying summon, UW only

Devilfish: W2E2B3 demonkraken, UW only, Blood 7, 50 slaves, B3W3 caster requirement, uw only

Demonshark: Berserking 3 attack amphibious demon summon, research 4, 13 blood slaves

>>164180934
Uh, how many demon sharks are summoned?

Is there a scaleable version? Because 1 for 13 slaves is pretty awful if their stats are similar to Se'ir or Ozzies.

>>164181257
It's 3 per 13 slaves and their stats are similar to ozzies, with a very high damage bite attack. They have higher att/def underwater than on land.

>>164181743
Do they have a scaling summon later on? Because if Mict/Xib only had the Blood 4 version, Ozzies wouldn't be used nearly as much into the lategame - since it would be outclassed by demon knight/storm demon scaling summons.

Well, double bless ozzies would win out, but at that point it'd be hard to argue for the double bless. And iirc, you've stated before that the sharks weren't going to be sacred, meaning later on Oceania's land army likely just transitions to demon knights.

>>164182361
>meaning later on Oceania's land army likely just transitions to demon knights.
I think it's fine either way, but a scaling version could be cool to see more street sharks.

>>164182361
Oceania will also be able to get storm demons if its god can make an A booster. which can already be worth doing with summod, since half the sirens are A2 on land and Angelfish with an A random are A3, meaning fog warrior casters with a booster.

wait what Desura doesn't exist anymore? Where do people negotiate their 50 turn NAPs?

>>164182625
>street sharks.
Holy shit they DO look like street sharks.

They look bugged at the moment, though. They're available at Blood 0 for only 2 slaves per set of three. Also, they get -3 def, -1 str, and +3 enc on land.

>>164183387
The cost is a bug. Sum1 said he shipped the test version of that spell. The stat loss on land is intentional, but iirc they were supposed to have the same strength and just lowered attack/def and added encumbrance.

>>164183315
On steam. Just message the user named 'Malakal'

Ahh crap... I think the street shark artwork got bugged when I shrunk the original image file, and it discolored the purple shading color thingy.

I'll work on a fix when I get the files back.

In the meantime, I hope you all enjoy the angelfish waifu I designed.

>>164185523
Toss them up.

Opinions on storm demon?

>>164192624
It's shit. Even a pack of wolfes can tear half of a dozen of them apart. Well, after applying some buffs they may be worth fielding.

>>164192624

In terms of amount of bang for your bloodslave, Storm Demons and Demon Knights are pretty much the best options for summonable troops, unless you've got national summons like Ozzies or Se'ir.

Commanders are a whole other ballgame.

>>164192624
They're great if you have the paths to summon them. The mass version is a high research level, and the single version needs a lot of B2A2 mages.

If you can mass them they are very hard to deal with, especially combined with good mage support. Lightning attacks are difficult to protect against and they're capable melee fighters as well as having strong ranged attacks.

>>164158973
Only 3-4 domg players have over 5-6 wins. I have 4 wins :3

t. Me

>>164193334
Demon knights are worth summoning even for nations with ozelotles imho.

>>164195253
>fear on troops
hnngggg

>>164194760
>Only 3-4 domg players have over 5-6 wins.
I doubt the number is that small, even if you ignore games played outside domg.

I almost have enough wins to be among that number (just gotta win the game I'm leading in right now) and I play a lot fewer games at once than most people here.

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>mfw castle arcanum 2nd turn

>>164195590
Most people only played like 10 or so games

>>164196229
7th turn***

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>almost 2017
>there are still people that take less than 6 dom

>>164196291
What are you basing that off?

>>164169819
Here you go.

>>164196706
In general

>>164197030
:^(

Did you have admin rights all the time while those other guys were having their 30-turn stale streaks?

>>164198272
I emailed llama, wished him a merry christmas and happy new year, and asked to send me the admin password.

>>164198352
the real armageddon spell

Motherfucker put BoT up again
Found his cap tho, 92

Godspeed Gath, you will be missed.

And Ragha, thronerush is a thing. You have powerful flying raiders. You are far and away the largest nation in the game. You can easily roll over two or more nations in an alpha strike and take enough thrones in quick succession.

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>Me dicking around in SP.

>Send this guy to an almost abandoned
province 15 defence mostly militia no casters.

>He keeps getting hit for 1 damage and almost wins.

>Suddenly a peasant hits him for 10 and he dies.

I have no idea what happened. How does natural protection work (This summon has 15)? And how can i fix this Thug?

>>164200331
If you don't have an N9 bless at least, you probably shouldn't bother trying to use malakhs as thugs
invulnerability works the same as regular protection if I remember right (just does nothing against magic attacks), so a random militia can quite easily just roll high against the protection roll, 15 is not a lot especially for a thug. If it had a vine shield it would do a lot better, also shadowbrands are considered overpriced and frost/fire brands do almost the same amount of work for less valuable gems.

>>164200331

Invulnerability functions as an addition to base prot against non-magic attacks. 15's decent, but unspectacular. What bless are you running?

In terms of thug gearing, I'd say in general there's no reason to use a Shadow Brand over a Frost Brand. It's ten gems more expensive, and the AoE 5 on it means the thug'll keep hitting themselves with the spash damage. Other than that, give him a Vine Shield and you're good. Maybe a fear helmet if you really feel like splashing out, as fear stacks up nicely with Awe.

>>164200810
>Invulnerability functions as an addition to base prot
Wrong. It isn't added to base prot, it simply replaces it (provided it's higher).

>>164200990
Wrong. It's added to base protection for non-magical attacks.

>>164201050
Wrong, it depends

>>164201105

Wrong, maybe test it?

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>>164201050
I'm sorry, anon, but that's bullshit. It's obvious how it works for anyone who can read the description, but feel free to test it in debug mode. Take an E1 Virtue, have her cast Ironskin and see what happens. Spoiler: total protection vs mundane attacks will still be 25, not 45.

I'd really like you to stop confusing newbies.

>>164201379
How about you go to ACTUAL battle, press 3, and see ACTUAL protection calculations, my boi?

Sum1Won, fucking make Man's sacreds recruit anywhere
LA and MA

>>164201457
Fuck off.

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>>164201428
No problem at all.

>>164201662
First of all, I think you should give her some armor to see if invulnerability stacks with it or not, second of all, damage values >20 don't stack linearly, so you might've gottent like +2 from ironskin, but you used an AP weapon for example, which is retarded because it cuts prot in half, so we can't even see the actual calculations result (13x2=26? Or was it including DRN etc. etc.).

>>164201785
>damage values >20
I meant prot values, obviously

>>164201662

Huh. That's weird. It shouldn't even be possible to get a prot result lower than 22 after casting Ironskin.

Unless the weapon's piercing or AP, at least.

>>164201831
>xbow

>>164201662
Ironskin gives +2 prot if overall prot is higher than 20, you double nigger, and xbow cuts prot in half as >>164201785 said.

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>>164201969
Virtue's prot is 0, friend.

>>164200770
So basically I should look for something with more health (and/or regen) since you can't rely too much on protection.

Is there also a random number involved when you take damage from a a spell?

>>164202142
The main argument was about whether or not Ironskin stacks with invulnerability. You didn't prove or disprove it because if invul stacks, the prot value would be vague (25 prot from invul +2 from itonsking) and if it doesn't, then the highest value will be used (25), so you basically have +-12 from DRN and those +2 from ironskin wouldn't even register.

To make things worse, you used an AP weapon to prove your point, which completely invalidated the test in the first place.

Step 1) Get her some armor with high prot.
Step 2) Use normal non-AP or AN weapon.
Step 3) Ditch Ironskin because we can't even say if it registers in actual prot calculation (bonus is too small to not account for DRN)

>>164202229

All damage (and protection) is rolled.

>>164202142
Prot 0 still has DRN roll, even without invulnerability.

>>164201785
>>164202428
>Get her some armor
Are you guys retarded?

How would giving her armor help in testing whether n a t u r a l protection and invulnerability stack or not?

>>164202979
How would you test whether natural protection stacks or not with +2 bonus?

Just use a fucking cyclops with high natural prot and give him a robe of invulnerability.

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>>164203109
It's not a +2 bonus. It's just 20 natural protection. Are you memeing?

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>>164203286

>>164203286
Do you really thinks that protections stacks linearly or something? Do you think Ironskin + Invul will be 45? That's not the case, and I explained why. I'm done.

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>>164203419
>Do you really thinks that protections stacks linearly
Natural protection does, yes.

Check out this big guy.

>>164203732
Protection from earth magic is NOT the same as natural protection, and it indeed stacks linearly. That's not the same as prot from ironskin.

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>>164203109
>Just use a fucking cyclops with high natural prot and give him a robe of invulnerability.
Like this one?

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>>164204090
Invulnerability has no effect on him, as expected. Regular natural protection is higher, so it simply replaces invulnerability in all cases.

>>164155390
Looks really good. I wish there were more maps with a side/angle perspective instead of just top down.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Today_Local_Domg_Man

Someone join as Vanarus so we can be MAXIMUM ELF

>>164204280
Only problem is there's almost no sea provinces so if we end up with people wanting to play UW nations it'll be pretty rough.

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>>164204184
Javelins' (piercing, which means -20% protection) damage also seems to be calculated against 30 protection, ignoring invulnerability.

Anyone ever make a full Dominions world map for every nation?

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>>164204439
Nothing unusual in melee either. There were some exploding dice which resulted in prot rolls around 50, but vast majority were around 30.

>>164204751
Check ArchaEA.

FUCK YOU XIBALBA REEEEE

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>>164205097
Pretty. Does it actually have fixed starts or something?

>>164205464
Yeah, all nations in EA get one. There's also a new MP game on that map recruiting here
>>164163181

>>164205464

Yep. I don't have a clue how balanced it is, but it felt pretty cramped while I was trying out SP with Berytos.

Also, for some reason, Machaka doesn't have a crown over its start space. I guess they wuzn't after all.

>>164205620
>There's also a new MP game on that map recruiting here
Damn. Was thinking it would be good for the RP game but if it's already in use people might be bored of it.

>>164205775

A 30 player RP game sounds overambitious to me. Call me a pessimist.

>>164205898
Does it have to have 30 players?

>>164206046

Archaea is designed for all 30 EA factions to play at once. I guess you could play it with less, but it has fixed starts, so intended balance goes out the window a bit.

>>164206215
damn.

I just want maps that make sense for MUH LORE, is that so much to ask?

xmas edition
Berytos 2h file received
Fomoria 2h file received
Marverni 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received
>Yomi Waiting for 2h file

>>164209392
In Yomi Santa is called Annual Gift Man and lives on the Moon.

>>164209702
I want my turns as a gift

ddd
ded
ddd

Get out of chat

Tell me about Ekishnugal! Why does he wear the jade mask?

>>164216942
Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a skeleton before banishing it.

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oi i'm signing up in standard ea. I warn you though: I want to play elves / TNN but I'm going in blind.

are they too advanced for a noob, or I should consider another nation? If no, what pretender do you recommend?

>>164217809
At least you can use mage support!

>>164218110
They're fine,

Run an N9E9S9 tribless, go for cons 4 asap for frost brand/vine shield, then go for alt for mistform, then go for ench for cloud trapeze. Expand with sacreds, then use your ponymen to go raiding. They will be extremely difficult for most other noobs to deal with

>>164218154
Who are you?

>>164218242
>N9E9S9 tribless
That's pretty saucy
Better hope that nobody knows how to counter vanheres

>>164218353
It doesn't matter who we are. All that matters is our innovative strategy.

>>164218537
How do you counter Vanheres?

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>>164218643

>>164218537
He's TNN, so his sacreds are tuatha. They're much easier to counter. The bless is REALLY for the thugs, though.

The thing is that it's a total meme strat, but you need to be able to counter all of its memes - overblessed sacreds early, overblessed thugs mid, and then a monolith drop.

>>164218643
Mage Support

>>164218242
Do I have other options than bless army? I know I can shit nature gems like there's no tomorrow with TNN

aren't elves master stabbers? I have now idea how to efficiently use stealth, never tried it before.

>>164218741
so my army is based around super units? mmm.

>>164219107
TNN's thing is actually cheap A2 assassins. Like, your main t-strike mages are also assassins

>>164201457
That was a really shit idea in cbm

>>164219227
t-strike? you mean thug raiders?

>>164220630
Thunder-strike.

>>164220630
Thunderstrike
You take one of your A3 mages, cast storm with it, then have all your A2 mages cast >Summon Stormpower and then >Thunderstrike
Thunderstrike is a really strong evocation, especially when massed, so it's a primary tactic for heavy air nations.

>>164220780
summon stormpower? Ios that one of the path buff spells? Can't i use an item to do it in first turn?

>>164221273

You can use a Staff of Storms to put the Storm up on turn0, which lets them Summon Stormpower right away, but the Air boosters are way too expensive for mass production.

>>164221273
Summon Stormpower is conjuration 2, storm is Evo 5 and thunderstrike is Evo 4
Because of unit ID fuckery, you won't necessarily get your stormcaster to be able to cast storm before your A2 mages, which is a small problem but you only miss one turn of thunderstriking. There isn't an item that lets you use summon stormpower immediately, but you can get an item that casts storm at the start of battle with does the same thing, essentially.

>>164221273
you can, but 20 air gems multiplied by however many A2s you want casting it will be too expensive. 5 turn 1 thunderstrikes is less valuable than 50 turn 2 T-strikes

>>164221725
I understand. I'm using to use mages for buffing/debuffing which from my experience is heavily dependent on casting it as fast as possible.

>>164221692
the complexity of the spell puts you lower in the cast queue? shit, just how complex is this game?

I really need to finish reading the manual

>>164222016
>the complexity of the spell puts you lower in the cast queue?
No, units get assigned an ID when they are recruited and that determines their casting order, and you can't change the casting order afterwards. It's one of the annoying things about this game that probably shouldn't exist, but it would make some tactics much less risky to pull off and potentially more abusable.

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There are a lot of contiguous fort chains in this map.

Also, sorry for playing on the oldest and crappiest monitor.

>>164222370
so the first mage gets to cast the stronger spells

>>164222508
No, casting order doesn't have anything to do with the strength of the mage or the spells they are casting. As far as I can tell it's purely to do with unit ID.

>>164222508

No, but if the first mage doesn't cast Storm, then the second mage won't be able to cast Summon Stormpower.

so, here's the thing: TNN pretenders. What do you recommend? I'm thinking teleporting hooded dude with 2bless, but i've got half a mind to make it an expander

Just warning I won't be able to send my turn until tomorrow

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Would something like this make an interesting map?

I'd imagine that there are programs out there capable of shitting out something similar.

>>164222923
they struggle to expand in my experience

>>164224325
Okay Lukas'd it for you

>>164185523
>>164181257
0.74 is out. Fixes the issues people discussed.

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>>164226713

>tfw live 5 mins from the green line

Could be interesting playing on a map of the area I live in, though.

>>164230048
Whats new other than Oceania?

>>164226713
If you're using rails as province connections then you'll have trouble on the outskirts of the map where there are less connections per station. It's a nice idea, though.

>>164226816
should I do scales? what does TNN benefit from?

>>164231351
O3G3C3 take sloth, drain and misf as you see fit

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>>164188882
Yeah sure, here are some of the sprites I've made for some of the Dom4 Mods, eh... I'm not the best artist around. Note that not all of them are in use yet.

I think Raijin is in the Magic Enhanced Mod, and for summod, the Manta Ray waifu fish and the water form of the street sharks just made it in. I don't think shark mage is a thing yet.

>>164231768
Those are some purdy sprites you got there anon. Certainly much nicer than anything I ever mangled together. Considering the name you ever do any gundam mech sprites?

How do I learn to diplomance?

>>164233567
offer erp to the player you want NAPs with

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>>164231768
That's one cute fish!

>>164232957
A lot of those already exist.

>>164233567
I'll teach you if you'll give me money and fight my enemies for me.

>>164232957
>>164233815
Ah I'm just being somewhat public by hinting what people know me as in the steam community.

DESU, I haven't sprited Gundams in a while. That needs to change.

Hype for replacing Agartha's golems with sacred Zakus!

>>164233567
learn how to convince people to do what you want them to

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>>164235736

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Today_Local_Domg_Man

/domg/ man looking for Vanarus to reach maximum elf

>>164230307
Adds AInorec
supayas don't get mrnegates easily spears, don't fly underwater
making isle of saos give the correct units,
making seasonal thrones not UW
Creeping Doom castable UW (there you go, oceania fans)
Skeletal Legion actually diseases, but it is also actually mrnegateseasily, and Alt 6->5
Army of Rats now actually causes battlefield fright, and it now costs 3 gems instead of 6

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ok let's start from here: is this bless ok for elves? or I should consider regen? I've been told they aren't very good at expanding, so I should add scales?

>>164239241
nigga change your goddamn scales, there is literally never a reason to take a dormant god with neutral scales in favor of an imprisoned with good scales

>>164239241
idk how good the bless is, test it in SP. If it kills indies, it's ok, if it doesn't, try something else

I ask 24h extension for PuerSkill, not sure if I have time to do turns today/tomorrow

How do I play ME's version of Jomon?

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HAPPY NEW YEAR FAGS.

>C'tis's cap is an ichtyid province
How'd this happen? I thought capitals didn't have any indie recruitment or sites other than the national cap sites.

>>164243743

When someone else takes the cap, it gets an indie poptype.

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Happy new year /domg/

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>>164243862
>tfw you take MA Caelum's capital and it has a Raptor pop type

>>164244471

My most memorable one has been taking Ashdod's cap and receiving blood amazons.

>>164239241
Taking W9 isn't gonna suddenly make Tuatha killy ya know.

>faggots delaying their turn because they are partying
I hope you die

>>164248543
I'm doing my Lucky13 turn drunk and there's nothing you can do to stop me

>>164243591
Happy new years queer.

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>>164242692
Summon TENGUS

>>164239241
Elves want regen and reinvigoration. Glamour makes them tanky and frost brand makes them killy

>>164239241

Go W4E9N9. It's a thug bless rather than a sacred bless, since Tuatha are nothing special. A Sidhe Lord with that bless can thug reasonably safely ungeared before you have Mistform, and can DEFINITELY thug ungeared once you do.

>>164248543

You should try being a normie anon, it's quite uplifting :^)

>>164253224
reeeeeeeee

Thanks to /domg/ diplomacy, I can't take high fantasy seriously anymore because all the gods and kings act even more retarded than the average Dominions scrub

What's the chance of celestial rainbow preventing hostile spells?

>>164254234
There needs to be more fantasy series where someones god is just a big cool guy who goes around kicking the shit out of people.

>>164254234

And lo the Titan xXxInnovate69xXx did stride forth, and he cast about him with his Rune Smasher, and spake in a voice of thunder, "elf retard=hitler", and his voice shook the heavens.

>>164254234
>A message has arrived from Sauron

Hey dunno if you know but the elves have like three magic rings. Seems like a pretty big deal, wanna team up on them?

>>164254630
Or just a big rock.

>>164254791
Imagine all the stories about Zeus but replace Zeus with a monolith.

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>>164254996
That's actually not too far off.

>>164254630
Malazan Book of the Fallen

>>164256621
Pretty sure that's already required reading for Dominions

/domg/, how do I cope with being completely unable to make decent sprites? I can't even frankenstein something properly. Do I just end it all?

>>164254630
>>164257093
Malazan seems to be a pretty accurate example of what a meme game looks like

>>164257439
>everyone is dicking around settling 10000 year old grudges
>"I just feel like fighting. Let's fight this empire over here."
>One smart person who understands the magic system goes around claiming thrones
Yeah

>>164257390
Assuming that by 'end it all', you mean 'try again', yes.

Why is TC AI?

>>164258582
Arco has elephants in his cap circi guess.

>>164258641
You're thinking of Midgard