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Alicesoft/Rance General #571
Last thread: >>164007098

Karma Edition

FAQ: http://pastebin.com/8EkUMikP
Previous Version of FAQ: http://pastebin.com/SEA97RAu
Read the FAQ before you ask questions.

>Useful Links (More in pastebin)
Wiki: http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/AliceSoftWiki:Main_Page
Alicesoft Image Booru: http://haniho.booru.org/
Rance Game Translation Chart:
http://haniho.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2536
Rance World Notes (Translated): https://mega.nz/#!nRESUJYZ!ZqoypfshkozVBFpeFGI3Oi5xBtU22SjnrnfjIo2SUGY

Check pastebin for FAQs, downloads and General Hints

>Just Released

Rance 5D and Rance VI (English and Decensored) - Released
Orders open at $34.95 for bundle
http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=1004

>Upcoming Games

Heartful Maman (MILF Eroge) - January 27 2017
Rance X - Announced. Delayed to 2017
Beat Game - Presumably some point in 2017
Two other games by the Evenicle and Rance 03 teams (New IPs)

>Released In Last Year (See FAQ for downloads and info)

June 2016 - Tsumamigui Extra (JAP)
January 2016 - Tsumamigui 3 (JAP)
August 2015 - Rance 03 (JAP)

>Current Events
Rance Birthday Drawfag Weekend (7th of Jan) - Draw your best Rance

Remember to use spoilertags when discussing and posting images of plot elements, especially those of untranslated Rance games. Ignore and report any blatant shitposting, including nameshit.
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She better have a scene in X.
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>>164089640
Doubt she will appear to be honest
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What does this do?
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>>164090367
It's a joke that does nothing.
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>>164090254
Doesn't Alfra still have an skill that Alicesoft are deliberately keeping censored for some reason? That could be relevant and Karma could appear with her if so.
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>>164090510
Alfra has.

Karma doesn't live with the orphanage anymore but if Alfra does appear I'd expect Karma to.
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>wanting to dick alfra and karma

What the fuck is wrong with you people? You deserve to be burned along with your loli brothel
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>>164090783
Karma will be 15 in X
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>>164090783
They're not staying Lolis and Rance already mentions in VI he'll wait a couple years for Karma to mature.
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>>164090783
Not Alfra. Just Karma.
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>>164090783
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Finally finished the game. Last boss was pretty frustrating but I did it with barely any huge grinding. Most of my characters was just around level 50. Great game overall. Took a hella long time to beat. Took me around 50 hours.
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>>164090783
>raping 16 year olds is more morally valid than consensual sex with 12 year olds
Protip: Don't take moral advice from Rance.
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>>164091136
Done Post Game?
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>>164091136
You're not finished until you beat all of these
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>>164091280
Yeah... I'm not even gonna bother. I'm way too burnt out now and I have other games to play.
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>>164091324
There's still more plot in the postgame though. The game is not over yet.
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>>164091324
If you're cool with leaving the story unfinished that's fine I guess.
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This fucker one-shots both of my rows, which is obscene, even compared to that other stone fucker that was in his room that was actually beatable with minimal casualties. I guess I'll have to clear his red orb when I inevitably revisit the tower, then...
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I'm in love with Rance games's OST.

Especially Sengoku's Rebirth the edge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj_2y22KB44
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>>164091374
Spam Calorie and Kanami stun procing.
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>>164091361
>>164091280
Not him, but is there anything I have to do before post-game? Like say a character or an optional boss that can't be maxed/fought in postgame?
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>>164091434
I can't rely on 1 in 5 activation rates, or whatever the bullshit chance to stun is. Not when it unstuns the same round more often than not. I'll just take him when I'm more appropriately levelled.
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>>164091374
Only possible with stun really. I don't remember if you even revisit Magic's tower later on.
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>>164091715
Hmm, fair enough then. Good thing I actually got control back after the interlude with the study session. I guess I'll have one stun front, one stun back, and fucking Tamanegi on deck or something. Will report back later, hopefully victorious.
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>nigganegi fucked sill

WHY DOESNT RANCE KILL HIM
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>>164091864
I used Kanami and Caloria earlier today and he only got 1 attack off. Stun is absurdly necessary for lots of fights in the game. Get used to it.
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>>164091324
Post Game continues the plot though.

FInishes off all the plot loose ends

>>164091412
There is a reason our soccer team uses it
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What's the easiest way to get a bunch of blue orbs? I have about six skills waiting to be bought and no orbs.
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>>164092363

Training forest, or just buy with coupons, im in postgame and I still have 32 unused coupons.
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>>164092363
Nearby forest, do the left and right paths then fight monsters on the easy side until you hit 40 points
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>>164092363
Go to Near Forrest.

Do a loop of the medium path then do the easy path and while still in the easy path search for monsters 5 times (press M).
Gets you to 40 achievement points.

That whole things gives you 2 red orbs, 2 yellow orbs and 1 blue orb
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>>164092363
Coupons
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Shit.

What do I do?
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Can anyone of you guys please share your save file if you got all the CG?
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>>164092258
Yeah, putting Hanny Zippos on my stunners and only bringing out Shizuka after it was stunned seems to have made all the difference. Thanks, sorry for being initially hostile about it.
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>>164092858

Chase that semon demon
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Is the cherry blossom walk a FR boost to whoever you go with or something?
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>>164092931
No. Just for fun scenes
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>>164092859

This is the full CG save
http://sagaoz.net/savedata/yarawa/rance6_kei.LZH

This is to max all stats if you want to play through the story without any trouble.

http://sagaoz.net/savedata/yarawa/rance6_tori.LZH
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>>164093174
I don't think that would work with the english version of the game right?
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>Copandon attempts to murder my whole party three turns in a row.

I think I don't like this skill.
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>>164093458
Yeah, I determined early on in 5D she was benchjuice, and only use her for the Increase Fortune XP buff/Tactical Retreat in VI. Dire Luck is just no thank you.
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Reincock's a guy?!
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>>164093458
>>164093541
Give her two lucky cards and you never get Dire Luck again. Copa has been great my playthrough.
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>>164093545
Kamilla doesn't like girls
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>>164092858
>>164092882
do you get anything if you keep chasing?

I picked stop since most of my party got taken out by seizel
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Where's the Maginot keycard?
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>>164093545
>cock
no hints there
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>>164093545
You didn't play kichikuou?
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Does rance quest not have character models or graphics in battles?
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Should I upgrade Snow Laser?
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Man what it's up with the lolita house quest? It is like a huge tonal shift. TADA really hates pedophiles.
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>>164094282
Sill is good for healing and triggering Maria support shots. Leave the lasers to Shizuka.
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>>164094119
Too many characters
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>>164094282
If you want to use snow laser at all, then yes.
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>>164094282
You will never use it
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>>164094295
Is there anyone that doesn't really hate pedophiles?
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>>164094295
Rance has fucked many underaged girls though. It's probably more set piece to drive home how fucked up first class treat second class. Human trafficking is seriously disgusting.
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why does Camilla's army sound like Ghandi's theme?
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>>164094587
pedophiles?
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>>164094725
I've done barely legal sex tourism before. It's not as bad as people make it out to be. It's a fairly comfy job that's better than begging.
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>>164094882
>It's not as bad as people make it out to be
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>>164094882
I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. Self-prostitution and Human trafficking is very different.
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>>164094725
Rance hasn't really fucked 5 or 6 year olds and basically mentally broken them
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>>164095124
No, these were definitely human trafficking brothels. The girls were forced to work there. The point is they're often greatful to their captors, adjust to sex slavery very well and happy to work because they're spoiled compared to peasant, third world life. They get to wear pretty clothes, be well groomed, live in comfy rooms and eat well and all they have to do is lie on their back for a few hours a day. Beats plowing the fields or churning butter for 12 hours and it's not much different than being sold by your father into an arranged marriage.
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>>164095292
How old was Athena 2.0?
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I beat albert in mansion but game still reacts in ending like he live. I miss something?
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>>164095292
Yes, I know. I was trying to see what Lolita house was doing is whole another beast.
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>>164095416
Some hours.
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The unlocked CGs need a hint of what they are, I'm almost done with the game but still missing a bunch.

Also there's a fuckton of galmon CGs to collect in this game. But at least they have hints
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>>164093403
Can confirm that it does.
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So I just beat the game and wonder what story is left in post game? Is it worth it? I kinda lost all motivation to play after I beat the game.
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>>164095738
>cheating in an easy as fuck video game
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>>164090783
It's not the same. Nowhere near the same.

Karma came onto Rance really strong, if he went with it that would've been perfectly fine.

If Rance however went to rape Karma, that would not have been fine.

lolis + consensual = ok
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>>164096131
Grind is tedious and unfun, nobody wants or likes it
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>>164096273
Not really. Rape is either fine as well or both is wrong.
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>>164096358
Speak for yourself, my D&Dolls and Widenyo saves say otherwise.
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>>164096358
If you want to skip the grind give yourself infinite orbs or something

I haven't come across a need to grind for levels yet and I'm almost done with the main game
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>>164096498
There is no need to grind at all except for orbs which is easily the biggest flaw of the game.
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>>164096358
You don't really need to grind in VI except orbs if you want to the all events. I just played normally and I'm almost done with no major chokepoints.
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>>164096397
You rape a loli, you damage them before they know how to deal with being damaged. See Alfra. Adults can deal with it far easier.

Lolis are for tender love and care only.
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>>164096632
Creepy motherfucker.
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>>164096632
Tender platonic love and care maybe.
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>>164096570
I can agree with that, especially lategame where I am now. There's just so many events that need a red+yellow orb, and the 5 or so minutes per trip to get some really starts to add up
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Man this was Rance december for me. Almost 4 runs of Sengoku Rance, Rance 5D, Rance 6 and now I will finish Kichikuo Rance another time. I won't stick around in this general but this was a great month either way.
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>>164096675
Creepy is loli brothel.

>>164096784
Not when they want it as bad as Karma did.
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>>164096861
Yeah and adding to that orbs for raising level caps. Also eagle orbs are already annoying to get in nearby forrest but in endgame when you don't have access to nearby forrest they're an absolute pain in the ass.
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>>164097015
Oh yeah, they yellow orb tax every 2 levels is a bit annoying as well. I really love this game but I wish they thought about the orb system a bit more
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Always sad that there aren't nude version of the character portraits of the female characters. Would give me often more than a CG in terms of fap quality.
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>>164097118
Are in IX.
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Hey Anon, Saskia and I are off to go liberate the Kingdom of Zeth. Are you coming with us?
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>>164097118
In IX they have them
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>>164097783
Can I fuck you if I join?
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>>164096008
Do you want to fight Abert?
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>>164097918
So I did the premature ending and it says something about Papaya, Neo Pentagon and Albert. I guess this is all the story related post game content there is. I'm just gonna assume they resolve Papaya's madness, defeat Albert and crush Pentagon fully and call it a day since I can't find the motivation to play further after beating the game.
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>>164094119

Dragon Quest never had it before 8
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>>164096358

The only thing i cheated in was gold so that I could buy weapon/armor upgrades easily.
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Should I raise Magic, as expected? Or give her more survivability?
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>See Annis in the refugee camp
>first thing she does after remembering Rance is almost cast white destruction beam
I see.
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What is the downside of abusing Kimchi event (the H-scene with 1 monkey orb) to increase her FR? Will I miss future events if I get her FR capped too soon?
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>>164097118
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>>164099476
Definitely more defense or resistance.
>>164100142
There is none.
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tfw can't capture wasp girl because full health, and can't deal damage to wasp girl without killing it...
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>>164100847
>what is mercy attack
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>>164101016
5/5 attempts were miss, ran out of meat shields so I had to kill it or loss papaya challenge progress.
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that's gay, bro.
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>>164101090
Abert is fucking based and the true hero of the game.
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>>164090510
>>164090605
And then Karma has the Kaijuu User skill that sounds like could be useful. And then that thing about being descendant of an ancient and mysterious clan that makes her being strong underwater may come to play.
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>>164101264
Hooked up Rance with Kamilla, Uzra and Rizna
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Insect users are a pretty cool and creative idea. Would like to see more of them but too bad they are almost exterminated.
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>>164094295
Not really, It's just part of Rance's character. And the reason he doesn't do too young girls isn't even a moral standard, but because he doesn't find them sexy plus he finds it annoying that they tend to just feel pain and cry more than anything.
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>>164101779
More importantly he not only saved Rance when she was close to killing him and his party but he also gave Rance a legit chance on defeating. Without him they would never have reactivated the maginot line so he possible not only saved Zeth but the entire world. Honestly, he did barely anything bad too.
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>>164102210
>Saved Rance
>His intervention actually healed Camilla right as I was about to deal the finishing Rance Attack
No, fuck off.
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>>164096632
Raping can also be damaging for the rest of the life for teenagers and even adults.
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>>164102434
Did you cheat or did you abuse stun locks?
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>>164102584
I didn't cheat nor had I grinded at all, it was mostly Maria blasting the fuck out of her and Rance attack, with Caloria stunning and Sel healing, Sanakia with her buffs makes her damage trivial.
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>>164100321
It's funny to see the difference on each girl. Pig is clueless, Sheila and Kanami are embarrassed, Shizuka is just "if you're doing it then get done already" and Tillday is just standing loud and proud.
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>>164102694
Missing Miracle though.
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>>164102672
How? Charge attacks aren't even viable against her since she has a great chance of killing charge and she can stun, making normal attacks more effective and the fight less based on luck.

She is also fast as fuck and will often attack first. Did you 100% all maps? There must be some kind of autism going on here. Which level was Rance when you fought her?
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>>164102764
It's understandable she doesn't have one, Rance always have to force her clothes off.
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>>164102884
She has a charge cancel attack but you can just equip an item that makes it impossible to get interrupted (special specs or w/e it's called) which you get in that dungeon. Even not using that, she never uses the charge cancel twice in a row so just use it strategically. Rance attack will do much more damage and also stun so it's definitely better to use.

She also really isn't all that fast, Rance is almost always faster.

>Did you 100% all maps
No, only the ones available post-game and all of them after the fact.
>Which level was Rance
Around 55 I believe, I had him with two ocarina's as soon as they became available.
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>>164102764
And Sen
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>>164103212
She actually completely ignores charge items. Even with ignorance glass he removed charge almost every single time. Level 55 is pretty high though and it explains it well, I was only 45.
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HEIL MM RUNE
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>Fight Seizel
>Kanami spamming accurate slash
>Urza spamming precession shot
>She literally never attacks once
that's absurd
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>>164103620
Yeah they completely fucked up stunning. Shit is broken as fuck if you fight against a single enemy.
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>>164103820
At least the hanny king would have been basically impossible without it;.
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>>164103974
Speaking of it, there was literally no enemy in the game that required a specific strategy. I guess having literally no status conditions in the game removed an entire layer of strategy.
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Can't believe some people actually dislike king Gandhi
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>>164104284
What's likeable about someone that literally does nothing but screw around while neglecting his duties and bitching at others to do his work for him. He became irredeemable once he started bitching at Magic for not doing her job, like fuck off you retarded hypocrite, practice what you preach.
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>>164104284
He was a mediocre king to be honest.
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>>164104495
>>164104531
He can't fix the country by himself and he's more worried about finding the hero than fixing the country.
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>>164104593
No, he's more worried about playing superhero than doing any fucking work, he knows what is needed to reform his country but he just leaves it to others. He leaves his duties to Chizuko, he leaves reforming Zeth to Ice Flame all the while he plays around at being a hero.
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>>164104593
He could have done a lot. The 4 generals and the 4 lords were all incredibly talented people that were on the right side except for Nagi maybe. He never even used them. Instead he waited for some resistance to do all the work while he did this retarded punisher mito shit.
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>>164104495
>literally does nothing but screw around while neglecting his duties and bitching at others to do his work for him.

One of us
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>>164104284
Gandhi is a funny and amusing guy but is a pretty shit king.

The Lia/Maris combination is the only competent government there is
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>>164104890
Interesting how Lia and Gandhi are basically opposites but both are loved by haniho
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>>164104996
haniho love everyone. Even Rocky
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>>164104996
>Gandhi
>Loved
No fuck off, he's probably the biggest pos in VI and he's just downright insufferable, his only redeeming quality is that he doesn't get in Rance's way.
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It seems that Chizuko wanted to assassinate secretary Radon when she let him borrow Annis to get his daughter back from Rance. Thoughts?
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>>164105174
Not impossible, since Annis is widely know to kill both ennemies and allies
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>>164105130
Gandhi was always popular here.
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>>164105251
Just his name is enought. Who wouldn't like Ragnarok Super Gandhi ?
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>>164105251
Just some vocal faggots liked him, same with Camilla which was perhaps the most disappointing villain in the series.
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>>164105312
>everyone agrees with me
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>>164105130
>downright insufferable
I honestly can't understand how anyone can't believe that
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>>164105380
>Gets told the same thing he tried to say
>"N-no it only works when I do it!"
Like pottery.
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>>164105312
Camilla was never a good villain, she's just a women haniho likes
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>>164105380
he's pretty disappointing, they could've handled his punisher mito story better
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What is Rance's status in the free cities? He pretty much has full support of Leazas, Zeth, Helman and Japan but how is it in the free cities?
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Where is this arios person, is he ded or just old & busted?
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>>164105551
Due to Lia's influence most people don't know of him. He's only really affiliated with Custom and the Keith guild, and most people that dislike him hang around the free cities.
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>>164105551
He's feared by the citizens of some of the cities via reputation, some of the leaders of the free cities know him and would help him if he asked but due to the nature of the free cities his influence isn't too high due to lack of public social status.

>>164105613
The last hero who was a failure.
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>>164105613
Retired since he lost Hero status with 20.
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>>164105613
Last I heard he was trying and failing to train himself up to being relevant again, but he's still around somewhere.
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>>164105613

Old and busted, a JRPG hero that lost his JRPG powers.
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>>164105551
>>164105643
>>164105665
I think at this point it's obvious that Rance will gain full support of the free cities trough Copandon and her Copa empire.
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>>164105845
If a demon invasion happened they'd help regardless
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>>164105941
The point is uniting the world under Rance, not just a general alliance against the demon army.
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>>164106015
This was already pretty much lampshaded in the ending of the Isoroku route in Sengoku Rance, which makes a point of Rance having united the whole world against the demon army.

And that's basically what X is going to be about, and the one big thing I'm hoping for is they have that same moment they had in Big Bang Age when you enter the chaos route, where Rouga calls up all his allies and everyone you character cleared shows up for the call to arms.

It'll probably be something along the lines of Rance doing whatever the fuck he does at the time, learning that Kaybliss faction (is about to) beat Hornet faction and Rance wanting to do something so he can fuck Hornet.
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>>164105845
Well Copa isn't given Princess treatment like Lia, Sheila, Magic and Kou.
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>>164106283
I wonder if Rance will change his attitude towards Copa and Lia at all now that he's mostly over his attachment issues.
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>>164106357
Rance's attitude to Lia changed back in Quest
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wtf is this shit

quality game
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>>164106357
He changed back in Quest towards Lia
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>>164106283
The free cities are based on capitalism so the biggest jew will eventually reign over all of them.
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Nice revolution.
How can you fuck up this hard?
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>>164106554
And then he already has influence on most of what is important on the region.
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>>164106682
A mixture of Aurora, Urza's doormat mentality, Pentagon's own blatant incompetence, and Rance's desire to whatever he feels like.
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>>164106682
Mainly Aurora making sure all of Pentagon's actual members weren't able to coordinate with the rioters so everything was pure chaos.
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>>164106682
Because the leader of Pentagon is ignorance on the level of intelligence of a Zeth second class citizen.
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>>164105665
Arios wasn't a failure at all. Don't forget the heroes job isn't to save people, it's to prevent humanity from being wiped by the demons.
Humanity is prospering, so he didn't fail at his job at all (Even though he didn't need to do shit for it)
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>>164106682
Pentagon doesn't even deserve the cool intro they had for what fuckups they turned out to be. In cases like this I wish Rance had more than just third rate erogame standard writing to give Pentagon more depth as they were nothing but fuckups.
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>>164106554
>The free cities are based on capitalism
citation needed
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>>164106808
The hero is completely irrelevant as long as humanity is not actively in danger. I don't even know why the gods didn't make it so that the Hero only appears if 10% of humanity is wiped out since he is fucking irrelevant otherwise.
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>>164106902
>The Copa Empire
"A new nation founded by Copandon Dott. While Copandon is not the officially recognized leader of the Free Cities, she indirectly controls most of the cities that form it due to the large amount of power and influence she has"
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Are Genjis supposed to be stupidly fucking bulky, or am I just underleveled somehow?
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>>164106921
Arios was still really fucking strong though, and had a shot at killing Miki but just decided against it.
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>>164107000
That whole event didn't make much sense to begin with, how did he beat the demons without the hero sword?
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>>164107051
He did have it at that point?
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>>164106921
They made the hero system to ensure the protagonist race can win in dire scenarios, then have a chance to re-build. The main goal of the scenario is to cause suffering, and humanity dipping below 10 percent the normal population would lead to extensive change and suffering even if the Archfiend/Demon King is dead.
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>>164106978
Where is the capitalism in that?
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>>164107085
He didn't if I'm remembering the timeline correctly?
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>>164107147
Wait, am I miss-remembering? It thought Arios turned 20 when he was just about to kill Miki and that's what stopped him.
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>>164107196
No, that's another hero and Xaiver last time he was awoken.
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>>164107196

He backed off because he couldn't kill a young girl, You're probably mixing it up with the hero that fought Xavier and turned 20 in the middle of the fight.
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>>164107128
Copandon is a fucking nobody that controls most of the free cities trough money alone and you ask where the capitalism is?
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Does Shizuka or Rance ever realize or acknowledge that Rance is her father? Or has it not been mentioned again after the one scene where it's hinted at?
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Is Rance VI the best selling Mangagamer title ever?
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>>164107335
What the fuck are you on about? Shizuka is in no way related to Rance.
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>>164107348
>Buying porn
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>>164107348
Well long-running titles probably sold more over time. It may have had the most successful launch ever though, not sure.
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>>164106978
She controls most of the cities in the Copa Empire.

The major cities are pretty independent.

>>164107248
Dominating a city economically doesn't make you capitalist.
The Soviet Union controlled a lot of client states through its economy and the USSR wasn't capitalist.
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>>164107380
Rance is Shizuka's father due to time travel shenanigans. Neither of them know it yet as of SR though, haven't gotten to play the later games so not sure if it gets addressed later.
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>>164107348
Not sure. It may end up their most successful release that wasn't released on steam.
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No charge earthquake is the strongest Shizuka upgrade right?
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>>164107435
Again, what the fuck are you talking about? Shizuka's father was Souzou Masou
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>>164107348
Not even close, but it should be doing good for their store exclusive titles.
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>>164107460
yes
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Is Dark Rance going to be the new hero? he's young and he's pretty much Rance
I hope it's some little kid that Rance ends up exploiting to get shit done desu
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>>164107418
Actually the entire continent is capitalistic seeing how Zeth companies are based in the stock market.
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>>164107497
That was just future/past Rance's alias.
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>>164107460
The only spells you will use is that and the basic fire magic, so it's best to just put every FR boost into the earthquake, sp is mostly pointless.
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>>164107497
You need to get a better bait detector.
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>>164107565
Right, right, and future/past Rance was somehow also a talented mage instructed by Mysteria.

Anon, start explaining yourself because you're just suddenly going off on some retarded tangent that has no fucking basis whatsoever.
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>>164107541
Devils aren't human so can't be the hero
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>>164107662
Rance starts studying magic after having his body crippled in the great war, his eventual goal being to perfect time travel magic and go back and prevent Sill's death. But he screws it up and goes back too far and eventually becomes Shizuka's father.
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>>164107541
If the hero would be actually useful Rance failed at his job already so hard it wouldn't be funny.
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>>164107541
I think the hero needs to be at least 12 years old anyway. But I think it's very possible that the hero is a time travelling child of Rance.
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Whats your favorite soundtrack in VI?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Xme4JD9EA
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>Suddenly get access to a load of powerful characters
>Try them out in a red coupon battle
>Decide Alex and Magic are weak shit so decide to bring back Maria and give Rick a spot
>Coupon battle
>Decide Rick is weak shit and bring Sanakia back
For a bunch of late joiners who are supposed to be strong, they sure are shit besides Gandhi.

Rick doesn't even have enough SP to be used in a clearing team for long. I'd rather have Cessna.
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>>164107783
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjLobQvbz7M&list=PLAB58639E5752DEE7&index=17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLoOl8DGsro&list=PLAB58639E5752DEE7&index=11

Though I think the soundtrack is mediocre as fuck.
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>>164107768
>find the hero
>tell him that the hero is supposed to do fuckall
>make him collect gold for you by sending him out to do minor tasks like killing bandits
>don't let him do his actual hero task
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>>164107916
It's their fault you overleveled?
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>>164107940
Hanny songgets grating when you hear it for too long though.
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>>164107783
Corpses everywhere, Rance's great adventure, Battle with Zeth/Demon Army, Battle 17 times, Magic Bureaucracy, Pentagon Love, Kamilla's army, Albert's scheme. It's not the best soundtrack in the series but there's still enough good stuff
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>>164108021
It appears very rarely. Only if you fight against more hannies than normal monster I think.
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>>164107963
My team is only around 40 besides Rance. Magic joins at 42, Alex is 44, Rick is 48. They're all higher level than the ones I tried to replace them with.
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>>164107916
>Rick is shit
Is this bait?
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>>164108121
Rick has a huge aoe attack, similar damage to Rance, an aoe version of Rance Attack and 100% physical damage reflect passive. What the fuck happened that you determined Rick was weak?
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Alright /haniho/, which had hotter scenes, 5D or VI?
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>>164108162
>>164108212
He was hitting less than a 44 Sanakia outside of By La Way without providing any of the useful party buffs. By La Way is strong but with my new A team being Shizuka, Sill, Maria, Gandhi, Rance, Sanakia, I have more than enough 1 turn aoe.
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>>164108243
5D is probably the shittiest Rance in terms of sex scenes while VI has glorious Tamangi gal monster training.
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>>164108301
>A team has no stuns
??????????????
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>>164108328
I've only used a stun team once. Outside of the bosses that'll just wreck your entire shit if they get a single turn, it's not worth it.
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>>164108328
Rance attack can be upgraded to have stun and it's not like you have much else to upgrade for Rance.
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>>164108301
>Sanakia better than Rick
This must be first rate bait. You must grind the fuck out of her for he even come close to Rick's damage. He has absurd damage, absurd speed, a first rate passive with guaranteed counter damage and one of the best abilities in the game with By la Way.
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>>164108452
yeah but you have to charge it
Kanami is a fucking monster
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>>164108492
Rance is a bigger monster.
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I actually like 5D art more than VI
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>>164108665
I certainly didn't.
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Can I remove Sel from party postgame? Hate her so much, I'd rather look for Tamanegi FR events.
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>>164108665
I think VI can be better but when it's worse 5D is. 5D is ironically pretty consistent in terms of CG's. A blessing to how small it is I suppose.
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>>164108484
She joined at 40. Assumingly because I got her to 20fp before she joined. Then I upgraded her attack.

In the smokey sewer she's hitting the green monster army things for about 1400, Rick is hitting them for about 1600. Sanakia buffs the team with 30% attack, 10% defense, 30% resist, Rick buffs nothing.
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>>164108894
>ssumingly because I got her to 20fp before she joined.

Well if you deliberately invest massively in one character of course they will be good
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>>164108894
How much atk does grinding her FR beforehand gives her? Post your Sanakia and Rick stats.
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>>164108990
Not him but I just had lots of extra yellow orbs to spend and she had one of the best H-rewards. Not hard to get to 20 fr before she joins either. She joins super late.
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>>164109095
He means he spent her FR points on buffing her attack damage (20% each) and yea Sanakia with all her buffs is more useful than Rick, the real issue here is having Gandhi instead of Rick, since you want either Gandhi or Rick with how little SP they have.
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>tfw you can play rance 6 with a controller
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>>164109225
We are not talking about general usefulness but actual damage output. And in that way Rick is pretty much at the top together with Rance. I think he even has the same ridiculous atk gains per level like Rance. Urza is way better than Sanakia anyway.
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>>164108315
>5D is probably the shittiest Rance in terms of sex scenes
>worse than I and 02.
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>>164109442
>implying 02 isn't better
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>>164108452
I just kept upgrading his basic attack because I never used Rance Attack because people would keep interrupting it
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>>164108990
I wouldn't really consider fighting her a dozen or so times a massive investment. It's just a handful of 1 minute runs to the forest.

>>164109095
Here.

>>164109225
I think it's only 10%, but it adds up a lot. I learned from her that I should've focused more on % upgrades for my other A team characters.
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Regarding the supposed Haniwa Village secret cave that you hear a lot of creatures talk about all the time, do you actually need to have a mission to open it? Because I've been killing those 4 hanny spawn locations continuously for the last hour and nothing is happening.
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>>164109563
A bit different from mine. Well I never found the war books anyway for Sanakia so she was completely useless to me.
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>>164110029
no you don't need a mission
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Why did they even bother with Rizna's support buff spells? They're completely outclassed by Sanakia and Urza's passive buffs. I felt cheated investing in this shit since it was completely useless at that point.
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>>164110429
So you can rebuff if they get removed?
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>>164110310
Then I must be doing something wrong. It's those 4 pairs in 4 houses, right? 1 unlocked, 3 with a key. Do that 10 times and the dungeon opens.
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>>164110498
Which applies for like 1% of all fights? Yeah, great usability.
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>>164110562
I believe you must have killed every house an equal amount.
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>>164110562
Not ten times.

Just make them even.

So you have killed each one the same number of times.
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>>164110429
They stack and Rizna can raise magic which nobody else can.
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>>164110668
>>164110673
Oh jesus, I honestly don't remember how often I've killed every house. The first times I entered the Haniwa plains I entered houses at will and skipped others because I had no idea what was going on.

Any way to see where I'm at?
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>>164110771
Jesus Christ. On the house is a fucking big ass sign that tells you how often you killed them.
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>>164110771
Check the boards next to the door of each house
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>>164110891
>>164110873
Ah, that shit. Still can't make messages appear beyond a mere flicker when I run into them, that's apparently also the reason I couldn't figure out the hanny thing.

Well, thanks for the help lads. I'll figure it out somehow.
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>>164107241
What a fucking way to go.
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>>164111284
This must be bait at this point. Turn skip off by clicking on it in the menu bar.
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>>164111284
turn skip read messages off
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>>164111463
>>164111673
Well, I guess it doesn't just skip messages you've already read. Cheers mates.
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>>164111463
It is really annoying how skip text can turn itself on by itself.
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:(
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>>164111929
Shizuka also seems like a good dicking could fix her attitude but it never does.
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>>164110673
There's definitely a comment somewhere about doing it ten times, but I haven't bothered to see what happens.
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What is this Serious Mode that Rance has?
Is it just a normal skill or some kind of easy mode?
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>>164111992
Rance never went about it the right way until IX
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>>164112093
You get stronger but will lose all your SP as a trade off.
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Is there a point to defeating the z guardians a second time?
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>>164112157
Oh. I didn't notice because I still hadn't got Rance Attack.
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>>164112392
Rance attack doesn't use SP.

You lose one SP every battle and then a character can no longer take part in that dungeon run
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>>164111992
To be fair the last few times she had interacted with Rance were

Rance 2 - Rance prevents her from saving her fathers life and rapes her
Rance III/03 - Rance spergs out and refuses to help the war effort unless he gets to fuck her.
Rance IV - Shizuka manages to do a ritual to upgrade herself to an Annis level mage but Rance intervenes and rapes her during the ritual, thus preventing it from being a success.
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>>164112093
>>164112392
Also, everybody has it, not only Rance. Always use it against bosses or when you know it's the last fight in a dungeon and it's a tough one.
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>>164112428
Ah, I see. I understand the game now. I thought that him tiring out was somewhat arbitrary. Have to pay more attention to the fucking game I guess.
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>>164106283
She's basically in the same ranking.

Also, confirmed for X, so there's that.
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>>164112650
And that image is a perfect illustration of her not being treated as the same ranking.
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>>164112498
Last one was comeuppance though. Sees your friends and allies fall down a pit, escape your captors, and hole yourself in a library to gain powerful and doesn't give a shit about anyone else.

Greets said friends with disinterest and doesn't help with fighting people that will turn said floating island into a battle weapon to terrorize the Continent.
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>>164112650
Magic looks like she lost her major forehead, kinda sad.
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>>164111992
Haven't played IX but as far as I know she's still stubborn bitch. She should just drop it like Kanami. Look at how happy our competent ninja is now.
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>>164112329

Also how do I get pass Magic?
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>>164112836
I thought it was someone else.
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>>164112982
Brown hair and glasses, all the other girls in the front are queens/presidents/princes so i assumed it was her.
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>>164112962
You need to go to the other tower first.
>>164112836
>>164112982
Same here, didn't even recognize her until anon said that.
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>>164113029
I figured it was her because the discussion was about princesses, so she was the only fit. And the glasses too.
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>>164112927
Sure looks stubborn here
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Wtf is Compadon? Super weak AND 4 SP?
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>>164113390
Needs an H-scene in X
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Say Rance never had access to a contraception spell.
How many kids would he have by the end of 9?
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>>164113694
>Super weak
Stop being unlucky
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>>164113729
Fucking degenerate. I bet you're ok with rape too.
fucking kys
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>>164113828
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>>164113737
If he didn't give a shit, fuckton.
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>I love all women equally
>this is not true rance
Man the series is fucked with Sill being the canon love interest.
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What should i upgrade on maria?
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>>164113737
A lot

>>164113729
sister threesome
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>>164113915
They are all canon love interests
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>>164113943
With Maria the answer couldn't be more definite. Support shot.

Though she is the most annoying unit for monster gal hunting because of that.
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>>164113852
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>>164114045
But Sill is always more than the other ones which is annoying as fuck. SIll seriously just needs to die. She is the worst girl.
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>>164114046
Just withdraw her
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What I am supposed to do in the calculator cube? I'm guessing getting the same number in every corner but I don't know the number.
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Does anyone have a screenshot of the Avatar saying he's the Avatar?
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>>164114110
I'm still mad that certain endings in the Rance series are not canon.
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>>164114346
The number is told at the selection screen, you can't step on a number plate more than one time.
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how do I get there? its post-game Capital mission
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>>164114110
Jessica?
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>>164114512
No Demmonking Archfiend Rance and Satella.
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>>164113852
Its not rape if Rance does it
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>>164114561
Fuck, I never read those. Thanks.
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>want to play Rance Quest and Rance IX now
>don't know japanese
Just fuck my shit up.
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>>164114119
She isn't more anymore.
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anyone know what the having equal amounts of hannies killed during the nun mission does? i tried visitng her before that and i got tentacle rape scene, but what the shit does killing the hannies an equal number of times do?
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>>164115008
let you go downstairs.

Its got nothing to do with Rose
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What figurine would you like from VI?
I'd like a cute Prima one
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>>164115008
opens a door in the ground where there are 4 concrete squares
there's a red door, green door, and blue door down there that each need a key.
To open the door, the numbers need to turn the same during that dungeon run. Once you leave the dungeon, the stairs in the floor disappear and you need to boost the hanny rooms to be the same again.
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>>164115090
Cessna
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Any significance to Autumn forest being completed only 86%?
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>>164115090
Kamilla

I know they made a Shizuka one
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>>164115313
Later there is a special event on that map where they remove the fence.
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>>164115090
Sieg.
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>>164115090
Uspira or Elizabeth rape
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>>164115470
oh ty
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Why is Rance such a fucking manlet?
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>>164116071
So the hyper weapon can look big compared to his body while it's actually average.
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>>164114567
is this mission impossible? why are there stars in a place I can't enter?
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>>164116146
His hyper weapon is completely inconsistent in size and form anyway. Sometimes it easily doubles in size for no good reason.
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Has anyone ever counted how many girls Rance has fucked over the course of his adventures?
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How come Rizna tells Rance he should use a condom, and he seems to agree, but in the CG you can clearly see he's not wearing one?
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>>164114925
She should still be the one at the top, even if there are now others he also cares about a lot.

I think the most important change is that he is now willing to take responsibility for the girls, instead of just wanting to have sex with them while he is around but then alter getting bored and going away only taking Sill.

You can see that on 5D. When the girls told him that he had to choose one, if Rance really wanted he would choose all and make it work somehow like he always does. And then another big change is he getting the Castle. Back in 5D the excuse to not taken them all was that his house wouldn't fit them all. But now he has a place able to fit comfortably a huge harem.
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>>164116305
He slipped it off when she wasn't looking.
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>>164116281
Technically only one, but to explain why would be spoilers.
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>if Rance would be like us he would be the strongest man to ever live
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>>164116281
Separately or collectively?
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>>164116281
Someone once made a webm of all the girls he fucked
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>>164116430
That doesn't make sense. Wasn't it in the anal scene where he was like "yeah, better not get shit on my dick"?
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>>164116281
Pointless. There is tons of unnamed generic in the games that he fucks, plus many in between games that we never hear about.
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>>164116536
>like us
So not manlet? Yeah, probably would be pretty strong.
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Am I the only one who liked all the early interactions Rance had with Maria in the second game, like calling her his second slave or sexually harassing her or whatever?
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>>164116801
I meant masturbating every day. I would have hit 999 strength aeons ago.
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>>164116865
No

I loved in 03 how he did the same with Kanami and Feliss
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How do I find the password for Papayas Elevator?

I'm stuck and losing my mind
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>>164117016
Next to the elevator, the two walls marked with red are illlusory walls.

WELCOME TO DARK SOULS
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>>164117059

Jesus christ, thanks.
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Man I just beat the game and the maps seriously sucked till the end of the game. They are always really small and straightforward with lots of empty rooms. The map designer needs to be burned alive to be honest.
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>>164117294
>small and straightforward
>bad

Naw you're full of shit.
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>>164117294
The game was very lacking as a dungeon crawler. I gave it a 7.5/10 because of Rance and the story being great, but holy shit, if it wasn't for that and because of all the orb and SP bullshit, it would have sucked hard.
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>>164117294
You can't really use the SP system and make large complex maps.
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>>164117412
It's you that is full of shit. That goes completely against for what the genre stands. Tada seriously needs to git gud. He played dungeon crawlers and he seriously developed the idea that the complex maps are a problem.

It was never satisfying beating a map in this game. Just go trough an easy as fuck dungeon and beat some easy boss. Most of the time there wasn't even a legit boss, just some pushover or a cheap task like beat three of those normal monster type.
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>>164117698
There's a difference between what an Etrian Odyssey enthusiast and what a Rance fan wants.

Dungeon crawlers like Etrian sure as fuck aren't for everyone and TADA's aim was to make a game that any eroge fan could enjoy. That's why Rance VI's maps are good, because they serve as entry-level.
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>>164117551
Build in rest points in the maps that recover SP. There, now you create big maps. Also fucking make it so that you can create a default party. It was annoying as fuck to always create your party every single time you went into a map.
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>>164117698
The simple dungeon design is fine enough imo, because the game is built around going through the same dungeon for orbs or SP.
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>>164117839
Kinda bullshit when you look at Sengoku Rance.
>>164117867
And going trough the same maps over and over for orbs was seriously the worst thing about this game. Tada needs to get his shit together.
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>>164117698
>the genre
Rance VI isn't a dungeon crawler
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>>164117839
It's not just Etrian Odyssey. You weebs have seriously never played the classics from the old days.
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>>164117842
Then you'd just sit and grind since there's no MP system stopping you from having continual sustain. You just remove the weakness of SP system by introducing rest points. If the maps were large and everything else was the same then you'd complain it doesn't mesh well. Which it doesn't. Sure titles like Wizardry and Ultima have complex dungeons with rest points for mages, but the mechanics are really different.
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>>164117867
>because the game is built around going through the same dungeon for orbs or SP.
Which is why the game was garbage.
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>>164118428
Make it so that you can only use rest points once per map visit. There now you have literally the same as now. Seriously stop excusing the bad game design. I fucking hate shit like this where people need to justify the existence of their favorite shit game.
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I don't see myself ever replaying Rance VI even though I liked it.

The orb system gave me legit PTSD.
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>>164118626
I needed to listen to podcasts or watch something on youtube to bear trough grinding orbs. But the game has no replay value either way.
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>>164118551
Single use per visit rest point basically defeats the point of rest points and all you doing is turning small 4 maps into 1 big map, except you have to walk through all 4. You're calling it bad design but the solution you offer is just paramount to making more busy work. It's like doubling the orb space and orb per event requirements. What does really change except add more tedium?
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What's the next game that is likely to get translated: Sengoku Rance or Rance Quest?
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>>164119057
Sengoku.
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>>164119057
Quest is supposedly partly translated already by the 5D translator, so I assume they'll go with that but who can really say what they do next?
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>>164119057
Rance Quest, it was 50% (iirc) done before Rance went to MangaGamer
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Damn, i want more dungeon crawlers with stories and shit. Any good ones? I tried Fafnir knight but the FOE system really pissed me off
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>>164119057
01 or Quest
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>>164118823
Make the maps 4 times bigger and add 1 rest point. Now the map is actually challenging.
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>Rance 02 Kai
So, it's worth a replay if I already played the original Rance 02 or is mostly the same shit?

Also, what gameplay changes does the gameplay have?
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>>164119057
Probably something that is not Rance. If only among the series, I don't know, even the remakes are a possibility. Let's just hope for Quest.
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>>164119197'
>>164119159
Think they'll include Magnum in that?
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>>164119250
Why did they need to kill Suzuma? Those motherfuckers.
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>>164119389
She was too good for this world.
Lv 3 Kunoichi too strong.
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>>164119212
No gameplay changes

>>164119250
Its been translated for years
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>>164099476
A few points of evasion will matter more than a few points of all of those, and only items can raise it.
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>>164119426
It was fine. Rance nerfed her by never allowing her to do any kunoichi shit ever again.
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>>164119426
Meanwhile Am is effectively immortal
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TADA made the right choice, you can already see anons in these threads who are literally too bad at games to play Rance VI. If he put in some Wizardry shit people would have lost their minds. You can't make games in a series like Rance for hardcore fans of one genre.

>>164117994
Sengoku is also entry-level for what it's worth, I don't know why you're acting like it's a grognard game.
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>there is no known level 3 ninja because they do their job as ninjas too good
Thoughts on this theory?
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>>164119715
What if some random farmer secretly has a lv 3 skill but it's never known because he's just a random farmer?
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TADA is gay
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>>164119672
>Implying people are complaining about Rance VI being hard

People are bitching about the Orb and SP bullshit (which is objectively speaking fucking horseshit)
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>>164119389
She was overshadowing Kanami too much so they had to get rid of her.
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>>164119804
Different complaints.

Many people have gotten stuck a lot.
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>>164119672
>Sengoku is also entry-level for what it's worth, I don't know why you're acting like it's a grognard game.
Sengoku Rance can't even be compared to anything else, it's too unique.

Also you're intentionally missing the point. Sure they made Rance 6 easy because it needs to be easy for the eroge market but right after made Sengoku Rance which is way harder. You're full of shit.
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>>164119975
>Sengoku Rance can't even be compared to anything else, it's too unique
KR.
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>>164120029
>KR
The inferior prototype version.
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Why do people hate sill
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>>164119975
Sengoku Rance isn't hard at all and Kichikuou Rance (1996), Daiakuji (2001) and Daibanchou (2003) were massive successes for Alicesoft.

Daiakuji and Daibanchou are much harder games than Sengoku
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>>164118626
>>164118814
You guys know you can just buy Orbs in the Store right?
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Kichikuou pepe was fucking great game
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>>164116467
>Technically only one
Hmm... reminds me of someone.
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>>164120196
With (limited) Red coupons.
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>>164120161
Compared to Rance 6 it's way fucking harder which is the entire point and debunks your retard argument that Rance 6 needs to be easy.
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>>164120248
alright*
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>>164120443
Sengoku is piss easy though. Especially since it has difficulty settings you can pick at the start.

its only 'difficult' if you pick five star
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>>164120571
>Sengoku is piss easy though
Your first playthough of the game is harder than Rance VI which was the point, you stupid cocksucker.
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>>164119804
People can't even into binary, what do you expect?
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>>164120680
>a game where it is pretty much impossible to lose is harder than Rance VI
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>>164120391
Thats not really an issue, given how frequently you get them. It's not like you need that many Presents
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>>164120571
Sorry but you're retarded. Sengoku Rance is downright sadistic in your first playtrough without save scumming. You can make it impossible to win which says a lot. You say it's easy after playing it tons of times. Yeah in retrospect the game looks easy as fuck because of the nature of the game of being a beginners trap and once you finish it and know what happens you can play ideally and at that point the most fun is min maxing.

But Rance 6 is literally never hard.
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>>164120805
>But Rance 6 is literally never hard.
Not to want to stir up you guys more but plenty of people here have bitched about the difficulty of some fights in VI
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>>164120680
The first playthrough is easier than VI though.

I mean fucking hell the game even weakens bosses for you if they're too strong and even gives you free territory if you're taking too long

>>164120805
It never ever becomes impossible to win. The event comes in which gives the player all the DK territory bar the original four and then you've won the game.
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>>164120805
>You can make it impossible to win which says a lot
How? you can maybe stalemate yourself into getting nowhere, but after a while you'll just get an event that gives you most of the provinces and any difficult demon fight can be lowered in difficulty by losing points.
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>>164120881
Nothing wrong with that because the game is retardedly easy but has some random spikes in difficulty every once in a while. If the difficulty was more consistent the complains would be less.
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>>164120926
>>164120906
The point when you can't progress is a game over practically. If you stick around you are just the fat otaku who bought the game to masturbate, not to play a game.
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Are those "check how XX is preparing" events supposed to be only for Patton, Alex, Maria, Uruza and Rick? Why them exactly?
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>>164121046
Except it's not the ending doesn't change at all.
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>>164120805
>make it impossible to win
Nope.
And if you're referring to the Little Princess part, that's possible to win without cheating. I've done it my first game.
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>>164121270
I didn't even know this was possible because I'm not a casual shitter like you guys.
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>Rance "stun their shit up" VI
>hard (unless you run away from battles)
Ayyyyyyyyyyy
Lmao.
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Reminder that Rance should fuck Hunty in X. He stole Magic from that Alex guy, why not Hunty from Patton? Also, just got an event where Patton tells Rance he has the feeling they will have to fight each other seriously over something in future. If it hasn't happened in Quest in IX, Rance fucking Hunty would be a perfect reason in X.
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The only hard part in Rance 6 for me was the last event before Adam Fortress where you needed to fight like 5 fights after another and there was this demon lord fight with Seizel where you could lose your best troops trough one hit kills. Other than that the final fight was more challenging than the rest of the game but not really hard.
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>>164121571
That event was about Sheila.

Rance wanted to fuck Patton's sister.

Even in IX Patton says that while he respects Rance and doesn't want to fight him, if Sheila didn't want Rance then Patton would fight Rance to protect his sister.

Which is why Sheila initially hides her identify from Patton

In the end Sheila loves Rance so Patton doesn't have an issue.
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>>164121653
So you found Kamilla the hardest?
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>>164121571
Alex was a fucking cuck. He had the chance to date Magic for years but he never did anything. Magic even borderline crushed on him at some point. If he was more active like Rance he easily could have Magic but he was reserved because she was the Princess.
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>>164095427
no one answer huh...
fine, several hours later, i get true end.
if somebody don't know how, you need clear all post game mission (except cherry blossom) and clear all game characters. Clear character is must have special event after that you get boust for one stat this character. Don't miss Kaoru clear, she in roaster exchagable members.

I have another qustion. Who knows what CG in seven page right after magazine CG. It my last CG, except pair chalange badge
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Kamilla taking Abert in her room? Whaaat? Wasn't she into shotas?
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>>164121761
I literally wrote that I find the last event before Adam Fortress the hardest and Kamilla the second hardest.
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>>164121779
That is the point. Alex never had the courage or the guts or the drive to do anything about it.

Its why Gandhi doesn't fully respect him and its presumably why Miracle doesn't rate him.
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According to the wiki, Bard was kicked out of Genbu Castle by Genbu. But how did Genbu get back to his castle if he was sealed away before the events of Sengoku Rance and he was killed during them?
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>>164121845
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>>164121859
Reincock is the favourite

>>164121845
The one immediately after the magazines is a Sill one.

I'm guessing its from the Cherry Blossom thing
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>>164121912
Genbu got unsealed in Sengoku Rance and then popped in to visit Waka and then beat up Bird and returned to JAPAN
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>>164121845
last thing...

Game is cool, story is awesome, gameplay is ok, difficulty is not easy, not hard - really good.
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>>164120805
>Sengoku Rance is downright sadistic in your first playtrough
It's literally impossible to lose. You can stumble your way through getting fucked up at every turn and never take any territory, but the game will let you cheat and beat any enemy by lowering their level, and automatically conquer territory for you.
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>>164121969
Reincock is my favourite too but why not fuck him instead for Abert?
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The best scene in the game was when Abert beheaded Reincuck. Man Abert was the best character in the game. How he slowly started to doubt Kamilla and how he began to test her should have been longer though.
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>>164121959
>>164121969
thanks guys, i get it
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>>164122102
Yeah people mentioned this failsafe already twice. It's easier to "beat" the game this way but the game is still harder if you're not a nitpicky little bastard.
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>>164122232
Harder than what, VI? Honestly I've game over'd far more times in VI than SR but that's only because I got too greedy when trying to grind for orbs and got surprised and OHKO'd by something.

Here's the thing. In SR, if you lose a battle, the game isn't over. Only if Rance dies is the game over. In VI, if you lose a battle, it's instantly game over. Now in VI you can retreat, but if your retreaters are dead, or you got too greedy and thought you could win, then RIP you.
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>>164122125
Abert's been missing for 80 years
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When/how can I get Kaloria into my team?

Also when does Rance get the Protagonist skill?
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MG just announced they're doing Rance Quest + Magnum next
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>>164119943
owo
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>>164122130
The whole thing with Kamilla's getting tested sets her up for X if they want.

>>164122232
How is that hard?

The point is that both games are easy enough that people who play because they are Rance and or eroge fans will still be able to get all the scenes they want.

You feel Sengoku Rance is better because unlike Rance VI there isn't really any obvious comparisons.
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>>164122232
I actually hated that, I was only a few territories away but going slow due to wanting to pick up all the events as I went, and then it kicked in and I felt cheated.

I guess they want to prevent you from just grinding endlessly before the final boss though, so the "failsafe" actually makes it harder in some ways too.
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>>164122485
Its a FR thing for Rance

Kaloria comes later in a mainstory quest.

>>164122564
No they didn't. They'd only announce it in a convention.
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>>164122427
Well, we should have at least seen the scene. I mean, the only thing besides Rance fucking women is Monsters or some faggots raping women. Kamilla with one of her subordinates, Uspira with that guy that was around her (just an example, not that it is good), maybe even Chaos getting some action like in Sengoku would be nice change of pace.
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>>164122485
>When/how can I get Kaloria into my team?
Automatic after finishing the first insect village quest, though you may have to do another event with her name on it before she actually joins your party.
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>>164122643
Nah its because you were slower than they expect a good player to be.

They're not worried about you grinding because you can just reduce Xavier's level if he is too strong.
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>>164122421
Seriously why do you judge the game so piss poorly? Sengoku Rance isn't even designed for game overs, the game goes on even if you massively fuck up.

In Rance 6 it doesn't really matter if you get a game over. You lose close to no progress, the dungeons are short and easy so it doesn't matter if you need to restart them. In Rance 6 knowing the map is all the difficulty there is. You just need to find the quickest way to the goal and that's it.
>>164122604
You miss a shitload of scenes if you activate the failsafe though. In 6 you just need to grind orbs to get all scenes. It's way fucking harder to get all the scenes in Sengoku Rance and you even need multiple playtroughs no matter what.
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What do the buildings do in KR?
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>>164122667
And, by the way, I'm really disappointed they spent so many cgs on pointless monster girl scenes. Could have done much better than that.
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>>164122667
I'd have liked Kamilla/Reincock as a scene.

>>164122693
No. Its automatic after the second quest.

First quest is to get the antidote for Kaoru.
Second quest is to rescue Karma.
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>>164122821
Oh right, for some reason I merged them in my mind
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>>164122804
But the monster scenes are a staple
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>>164122804
Collecting the monster gals was literally no fun too. They could have at least made it enjoyable to hunt them.
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>>164122753
Yeah but the point is that Sengoku Rance isn't any harder than Rance VI and that neither game is particularly hard because Alicesoft didn't want the games to be hard.

You are obvious a big fan of dungeon crawlers so I can get why you are disappointed. For those of us who aren't really big players of dungeon crawlers it is nice fun.

>>164122804
If I recall correctly Galzoo Island was in development at the same time so Min was already drawing Gal Monsters.

>>164122801
Depends which one.
Hospital is vital for some characters and for some scenes (you might need it to impregnate Isoroku).
SM Tower unlocks some sex scenes and lets you impregnate Hauren and also recapture Anasel
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>>164122753
Yes, neither game is that hard. I'm glad we agree.
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>>164122984
>Yeah but the point is that Sengoku Rance isn't any harder than Rance VI and that neither game is particularly hard because Alicesoft didn't want the games to be hard.
But Sengoku Rance is way harder and TADA even admitted in alice mansion that they made the game very challenging.

TADA just removed all he hated in dungeon crawlers and that's it. He never got gud.
>>164123076
Sengoku Rance is very hard in your first playtrough. That you got your shit beat in and just waited for the failsafe just speaks volumes how much of a casual you are. Probably got stuck in Rance 6 and cried because there was no failsafe, That's why you think they're about the same in difficulty.
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>>164122903
Did 5D have gal monster scenes? I never managed to get any though I captured quite a few.
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>>164123197
I never got my shit beat in and waited for the failsafe though, dummy. My point is that even if you DO, you can't fucking lose. It's as easy as it gets. Rance VI is harder by default because you can actually lose and have to redo things because you got a game over. In SR it's near impossible to game over and even if you lose battles all the time the game wins for you, so the game is easier. But neither game is really that hard. What don't you understand about this?
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>>164123197
Nobody get kicked in and waited for the failsafe.

You probably shat yourself at the first Demon Army blitz and restarted
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>mikan watches you masturbating
>"is masturbating that fun?"

my dick
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>>164123302
I already explained how Sengoku Rance is not designed for game overs. Playing the game legit and trying to get a good score is really hard. You also need to put in some effort to get the scenes while in Rance 6 they're handed to you on a silverplate.
>>164123394
At least Sengoku Rance always tried to make the game challenging for you. They never let you get used to things or gave you lots of time to prepare. You always needed to deal with shit you were forced to. In Rance 6 there is literally no pressure.

The day I need to argue why Sengoku Rance is a harder game than Rance 6 is seriously the day haniho completely went down the shitter. This general can die for all I care.
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>>164123197
Just about every Rance game is pretty casual though. None of them are really all hardcore except for the porn.
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>>164123629
The point is that that they are both easy games.

Yeah Sengoku Rance had more learning on the spot and yes it's a more enjoyable game but it's not difficult.
Especially since you can just play easy mode in every playthrough if you want

I don't even know what this argument is about. The point is that both games are easy so that any Rance fan can play it and still get the scenes they want.
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>>164109563
Literally two bells vs. 1
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>>164123197
The games aren't designed to be super difficult, they're meant to be fun (usually, i don't think the early ones are that enjoyable)

They switch genre with every other game, so it's probably not as easy as you think to just make a mind numbingly hard game while allowing people that enjoy the series to continue playing.

Difficulty does not always equal fun, Sengoku isn't very hard once you get over the initial learning curve but it is still a very fun game
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>>164123629
>>164123820
>>164123930
Point people forget is that people who bought Sengoku Rance legitimately had a manual which explained a lot of shit we took time to figure out when we played
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What's so fun about the walks the fortune teller takes?
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Rance event?

I might partake with a shitty doodle. By the way, which moment in 6 is the best so far?
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>>164123820
Kamidori Alchemy Meister also had the deadbeat option for the casuals but if you didn't pick the option it was very challenging. But I would never argue that the game is easy just because there is the casual option. Saying a game is easy because it has an easy mode is probably the most retarded thing I have ever read. Hey, Doom is fucking easy because the game offers "I'm Too Young To Die" mode. Doesn't matter that it offers Ultra Nightmare. You can see the entire game on the easy settings so it's easy as fuck.

The people in this general are mostly non gamers and underage people. Otherwise there is no explanation for this kind of braindead opinions.
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>>164112006
Haven't actually tested it out either, but here's the relevant text.
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Who is best girl in 5D, objectively speaking?
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>>164124229
Oh yeah, we were meant to doodle something for christmas weren't we

Did anyone do that?
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>>164124238
Eh, Kamidori's difficulty depended a lot of how much grinding you wanted to do. And the game really encouraged you to grind with all the events and recipes that you needed to get shit for.
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>Attack with weapon
>Sash
So, she strangles people to death? Seems inconvenient in the heat of battle.
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>>164124375
She wacks people with her fist
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>>164124375
Whip people.
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>>164124375
The power sash buffs her strength which she uses to throw people.
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>>164124375
>tfw Kaoru had some of the best CGs in the entire game
Too bad she loves that cuck Ghandi.
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>>164124348
No because we were too busy playing.

But because Rance's birthday is the 5th of January I decided to make it a draw Rance event instead.

>>164124229
Rance showing Kamilla his dick.
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Are the poison items worth using, or are you better off with the levels than the stats you'd get?
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>>164124238
No. That isn't my point.

The point is that the games are designed so that someone who only wanted to play because they are a Rance fan would still be able to play.
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>>164124727
The poison items are better because you can just level back up later
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>>164124727
There's an item that lets you negate the poison.
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>>164124348
Too cold. I was able to doodle a fairy cheering about 6's release, but that doesn't really count.
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>>164124727
Levels are capped, stats not so much. It's best to give the poison items to other people than Rance though, I gave the +attack to Maria for obvious reasons and magic to shizuka, everything else went to Caloria since her health regen makes her an insane tank if she gets enough defense/evasion and she's often crucial against bosses.

Normal items all go to Rance except for attack and magic, since def/eva/res don't increase with levels.
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So now that the dust has settled what's the verdict on Rance VI? Is it shit?
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>>164124375
I imagine itcs like Iku from 2hu with her shawl minus the drills.
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>>164124942
Is there a limit to how high you can raise the caps with sex?
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>>164125014
Yea, 50/51.
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>>164124972
Its good fun.

>>164125014
Hard cap is around 50 odd
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>>164124717
Kaoru is not married to Ghadhi.
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>>164124776
Do you think a total casual wouldn't be overwhelmed by Sengoku Rance? Like he would feel the pressure all the time and probably had a pretty bad time. Why would he even go trough this if he is just there for Rance? In Rance 6 you have no pressure at any given time so you can take your time to explore the game. The game is truly designed so that even the biggest casuals can tackle it and their own pace.

Sengoku Rance can be really frustrating though. Why would a casual even put up with it? Only someone who is there for the game would show the willpower to try further. Sengoku Rance has a learning curve, to begin with a learning curve in an eroge is already something that is the complete antithesis of designing a game like an eroge intentionally.

If you read alice mansion in 6 TADA downright admits that he removed everything he found to be tedious in dungeon crawlers. He made the game easy because he didn't like the hard parts of the genre, not because he wanted to make something easy for the eroge market.
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Sanakia has a surprisingly good end scene.
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>>164124972
Yeah, so far I'm having a blast with it. I'd give it an 8.5
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hmm, any of this bestow XX actually useful? seems like you might as well smack the enemy instead of wasting a turn on a power up. Magic maybe?

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>>164125274
Don't pick it. It becomes completely obsolete once you get sanakia's passive buffs.
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>>164125274
Bestow attack is really useful for me, the boost seems to be significant

It's like Rance hitting for 500 without it, and 700-800 with it.
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>>164124972
It's fun, but was super overrated. Sengoku is still easily the best game in the series.
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>>164125391
It's good early game and Rizna is bench tier later on anyway.
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>>164124972
Gameplay is mediocre and it has a slow start gameplay and story-wise. Orb hunting is extremely annoying. Porn is good and the story is enjoyable.
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>>164125487
I think Rance Quest was the best
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It's a shame that the name Kamilla just makes me thing of old hags, it kind of ruins her for me.
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>>164124972
Still at the Paris Academy mission, but so far it's been great.
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>>164125621
Good thing she is an old hag then
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>>164125621
Could be worse. Camilla reminds me of Camilla Parker Bowles.
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>>164125204
Sengoku is the entry point for most people in the serie.
I started in total casu and enjoyed it. All games don't need to babysit you.
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>>164125423
>>164125425
>>164125391
ty ill just go with attack 20% i think.
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>>164125590
Sengoku > IX > Quest+Magnum > VI > Quest.

In my opinion.
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>>164124972
Best game in the series
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>>164125703
A hot old hag so I'm fine with it
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>>164125621
I mean, she's about 5000 years old
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>People are complaining about VI grinding
Can't wait to see people constantly whine about Quest's grind
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>>164125774
t.Mangashill.
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Do you think Rance actually understands what he's doing when he rapes someone? Or does he just think that they don't really mind that much and it's not a big deal?
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>>164124972
It's a slog, with little to redeem it. People keep saying it'll get good 40 hours in or so, but I've yet to see it. (Currently in Jump Tower.)
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Is Feliss even in VI? I feel lonely without summoning her yet.
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>>164124972
Best in the series

>>164126028
Yes but you don't summon her.
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>>164125957
The latter.

Its only after VI that he starts realising he can fuck people over.

>>164125890
fuck off /vn/
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>>164126013
Maybe you just don't like dungeon crawlers? I have been having a blast with it so far. Hit all the right buttons for me.
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>>164125885
Quest has better porn, more memorable characters . a cool soundtrack, cleaner and simple interface and a more enjoyable dungeon exploration system though.
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>>164126028
The whole family is
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>>164126078
Naw, dungeon crawl is legit my thing. I've 100% all the main EO titles, etc. VI isn't good dungeon crawl, not even close.
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Caloria is such a fucking alpha
>needles with chance to stun
>weaker needles with a very high chance to stun
>aoe needles
>auto regeneration each turn
>Harden for situations where you're about to be hit by high damage attacks
Felt really fucking good using her for timed fights like against Seizel and Camilla. They couldn't even touch her, or they managed to touch her on the first turn only and she'd regen the damage away with harden
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>>164126095
Yes, No, No, Yes, No
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>>164125957
I dunno, some of the early in VI scenes made me feel a little bad. Like the first time with Urza when she seems so disappointed that you betrayed her, and when he forced Sill to suck his cock in front of all those people just so he could brag about enslaving a mage
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>>164126137
Do we know what happened to the devil was pregnant with after Rance killed her guards and Dark Rance took her away?
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>>164126078
Rance VI is a mediocre dungeon crawler though.

t. Guy who has played Etrian Odyssey and 7th Dragon.
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>>164126261
>>164126196
Well you guys shouldn't have expected it to be the next EO or whatever. It's still an eroge at heart with only a fraction of the budget of those games most likely. Still I found it fun for what it is.
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>>164126224
Sorry for your shit taste my friendo.
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>>164126078
I think it's more the hardcore dungeon crawler fans that are disliking it, looking at the thread.

Only game I've really liked in the genre before this was Strange Journey so I thought VI was really good. If you went in thinking it would be a really complicated dungeon crawler for some reason yeah you'd probably be dissapointed
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>>164126379
Quest isn't that good at all, it's just pretty looking garbage.
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>>164126325
The game is poor because of a lack of talent and not because of a low budget.
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>>164126095
>memorable characters
Don't see it

>cool soundtrack
eh, around the same level as VI, both aren't stellar in that area

>more enjoyable dungeons
How? VI's dungeons are much more fun and have way more interaction. Also the grind for Orbs is nothing compared to the grind for level permits and Gems
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Rance VI is the bad parts of Sengoku, but instead of lasting for only a little bit (unless you challenge Orochi) and being a nice little side gimmick, they last for 50 hours.
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Eh, I like the fact that Rance is a bad dungeon crawler I guess.

I've bought that PS Vita dungeon crawler made by the same guys that made To heart 2 and that game was so boring and such a pain to go through.
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So has Rance fucked Sel in IX or Quest? If not, it should happen in X. Also, she is a good candidate for Kayblis rape scene.
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>>164126325
Eh, I'm making the best of a it by self-imposing challenge. Not using any of the 15FR upgrades.
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>>164126619
>Bad
It's a casual dungeon crawler, Alicesoft rarely makes games that go above the casual level because it's eroge.

>>164126681
No, Sel is "historically" known for not getting fucked by Rance
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>>164126537
My problem with Sengoku dungeons was just how each attack used up an action and then the character was switched out.
The combat was great in VI except for the charging part. I would have preferred if shit like Rance Attack was instant, but had a rest turn for Rance the next turn.
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Are people really that bothered by grinding for orbs? I mean you only ever need to get a handful at a time, and it's very quick...
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>>164126690
Removing one of the few customization elements in the game seems to be more like downright retarded.
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>>164124375
Kaoru's suppository CG, muh dick.
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>>164126803
Yes, the funny thing is that VI's grind is one of the easiest and quickest in the series.
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>>164126524
>Don't see it
Reset, Crook, Alkanese... It also has Satella, Shizuka and all the good Sengoku characters too.

>eh, around the same level as VI
No fucking way. Rance VI only had a single good track that comes to mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrRGQ0mCONQ&t=144s

Quest has way better tracks.

>How?
3D movement where you can see where you are going is more fun than dungeon crawling.
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>>164126803
they probably binged the entire game so I can see a lot of things annoying if you play the entire game in a few days.
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>>164126803
The only time I'm ever bothered by orb grinding is when I unlock a bunch of skills at the same time and have to get like 3 or 4 Blue Orbs.
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>>164126858
Were can I see it? Got an imgur link?
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>>164126456
I like dungeon crawlers and still like Rance VI
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>>164126881
>Quest has way better tracks.
What? Quest is easily the worst soundtrack in the series
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>>164126803
There is no point to it. If I grind I get stronger but I need to waste time as a trade off. In Rance 6 the orb grind was for story shit all the time so I was forced to grind, it wasn't optional. It's a completely unnecessary game element with zero thought put into it.
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>>164126803
I didn't like how you barely needed any for characters and had to waste them on repeatable character stat boosts, and then after you completed a main story mission you suddenly needed a shit ton for each character. 'i spent a lot of time running Haniwa Plains or Nearby Forest just to see some of those stupid events. I ended up getting sick of it near the end and spent my red coupons on orbs
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>>164126947
The panda.
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>>164126752
>It's a casual dungeon crawler, Alicesoft rarely makes games that go above the casual level because it's eroge.

I don't actually mind the gameplay in Rance VI at all. When I said bad I was trying to refer to the hardcore dungeon crawler people in here.
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>>164126905
Yeah, that's true. I've been alternating it with a PS3 RPG I'd been meaning to finish for hella days so it never starts feeling like a chore.
>>164126907
That can be mildly annoying but it's not that bad. Just run both sides of nearby forest and then fight 4-5 easy battles and you got a blue orb.
>>164126994
Valid I guess, though if they let you stockpile them most people probably would have never had to worry about them after the first few hours.
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>>164127020
Lackluster would be a better word to use then, no?
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>>164126973
Not true at all. Quest, like most Shade soundtracks, had a few fucking amazing tracks with the rest being okay. In VI it's all on the okay side, nothing really out of the ordinary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BkcuEz5ivo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP9ItLQGV2c
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>>164126681
Just anal and her Quest epilogue says that she becomes famous as the girl close to Rance who managed to keep her virginity.

Unfortunately she's now a pretty redundant character because Crook is the main AL church contact and Cafe is the Chaos girl,

I would love her to get a sex scene in X though
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>>164126973
Nah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BkcuEz5ivo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPzf_Pavnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YycCutK3fb4
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Do buffs/debuffs in VI stack?

Also how long do they last? Is it the whole battle?
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>>164126995
Someplace other than panda maybe? I kind of don't want to bother making a new account on eh.
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>>164127091
It just shows that the game lacks polish.

Why do I always need to set up my party at the beginning of deployment? Why can't I set a default party? Why do I need to go to italia to get to the red orb shop? Why can I only buy 3 presents at a time?

The game is just full of this small retarded shit.
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>>164127164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YycCutK3fb4
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>>164126973
I like VI much more than Quest, but I'll disagree on this too. Quest had some really great tracks.
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>>164127164
>>164127239
Yeah, I'd rate some of VI's music over those. Well except Sentou Amu
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Copandon bullying is good.
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>>164127346
Sorry for your shit taste then.
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>>164127164
>>164127239
VI has many decent tracks but lacks a really standout one, Quest has maybe 2 standout ones with the rest being mediocre. I'd put VI over Quest but neither of them are that good
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>>164127448
Suck my cock, dude.
>>164127492
SR had some good tracks.
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>>164127492
Quality > quantity.
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>>164127448
Nobody cares.

>>164127560
SR is leagues above both of them
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Okay, so, wasp girl is at 1 HP, and still not getting captured. Is she like Lucky Can Can and Master Gecky in that she literally cannot be caught?
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IX is better than VI
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>>164127560
SR and KR have probably the best soundtrack in the series.
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>>164127640
You tried using Caloria?
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>>164127612
We are talking about a soundtrack not single songs so No.
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>>164127492
I can forgive it since it has a remix of Trns beat, which is easily one of the best battle tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKSzx6Q4w9s
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>>164127640
She can you just are apparently extremely unlucky. It is tied to level so you could always come back later.
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Do I need to play KR before 5D and VI?
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>>164127764
Well memed.
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>>164127773
I still hate how in both 5D and Quest, the battle always ends before it gets to the past part of the track.
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>>164127763
Caloria doesn't have the Capture skill, does she? Both Rance and Tamanegi have failed.
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>>164127828
It might be even more enjoyable if you play it after it.
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>>164115090
Karma or Sieg + apostle
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>>164127773
The original is better

>>164127828
No but you'll miss some references
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>>164127828
No.

Is a pretty mediocre what-if story anyway.
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>>164127937
KR is the best Rance game hands down.
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>>164127965
Whatever you say, kid.
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>>164127828
No, but you should play it eventually.
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>>164127965
I agree with this
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>>164127794
Ugh, well Tamanegi is capped, and Rance is Lv 46, which I would have thought would be enough, but apparently not. Do they show up outside of Papaya's challenge? If so I'll just progress plot, because I'm bored of trying to hunt her now.
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>>164127937
>mediocre
>when it has a good soundtrack, Kayblis turning into a pimp Sephiroth, some options to be the biggest dick you can be as Rance, and watching Satella get stronk as fuck
Eh, opinions.
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Does Rance 03 uses 01's gameplay system?

I fucking hate the whole chip bullshit.
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>>164127937
No greater bait has ever been spoken in this thread. If anything it's the best what if story in the entire series and X will pretty much readapt it into the canon. For Rance fans it's a godly game for all its lore and character elements which no other Rance game ever came close to.
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>>164128162
The same dungeon system, but the battles are different.
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>>164128132
They're in the immediate area of the nearby forest.
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>>164128195
Nice shilling.
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>>164128195
Does it spoil the later games, or is it different enough that it won't really affect your experience? I remember reading a while back that when TADA thought they were going bankrupt he just kind of tossed his ideas for the rest of the series loosely into that game.
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>>164128229
God, i hate that Dungeon system, i take literally everything over it even 4.x

I really hope they change this for 04
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Okay.

Bit early but I can just leave it open for a long time. Seems like a lot of people have finished the games anyway.

Same ranking system as with the Sengoku and Kichikuou polls.

Rance 5D has two polls. One for girl and the other for gal monsters.

Rance VI also has two polls. One for character, male and female, and one for gal monsters.

Using google documents this time because I suspect people publicly posting their responses in thread influenced later votes.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdteXi3YSqolYkuaibY5pVY8AOrMrGXE8c6lfLKrwmYn9zgEA/formResponse
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>>164128283
Is KR even offered for sale anymore? It's old as fuck now.
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>>164128283
>Shilling for a freeware game
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What does serious mode do exactly?
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>>164128323
I actually kind of liked 4.x dungeons. It was kind of chill and worked for a short game like that, and the little conversations about each room and Athena drawing the map as you go and Rance later shittily drawing the map were fun
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>>164128290
I wouldn't say it spoils much. Like it touches on things, like a revolution in Helman happening, or some of the characters in Zeth, but it doesn't go as in detail as the actual games focused on those countries do.
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>>164128406
Increases your stats a lot but burns up all your remaining SP in this fight.
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>>164128260
Those are Bee Girls.
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>>164128162
Dungeons are the same except 03 has maps.

Gameplay is different. You get skills slots. At the start you can use 5 in battle but that later increases.
Each skill shot is filled with a characters skill - if you give Rance 4 skills lots and Sill one then you will be able to use all of Rance's skills in the fight but only Rance and Sill will take part in the fight so you will have less HP.

Its pretty hard one allrounder characters like Sill because with your limited slots you'd rather use a Shizuka magic attack and a Sel healing spell instead.
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>>164128290
It will the make the later games just better because they pretty much used Kichikuo Rance as the blueprint for lore and characters for all later games. The later games just will add way more to the world since they will go more in depth. It's great to play Kichikuo before the other games since you will get a nice rough network of all Rance has to offer and can fill the details in with the later games.
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>>164128351
No. Every game up to Kichikuou has been free for a while now.
>>164128290
You can definitely see how he reused those ideas in the games if you play Kichikuou before, besides some references, but the plot plays out very differently so it's not like you'll be spoiling yourself by playing KR first.
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>>164128423
I think the 4.x games would have gotten a better reception if you could reasonably getting them to work on anything beyond XP
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>>164128351
Nah, you can even download it for free legally.
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>>164128479
Oh I didn't know wasp/bee had variants.

It's probably like the other variants then. My bad.
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>>164128339
>Don't remember the names of the monster girls
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>>164128339
Oh shit, top 10 favourite characters in VI? That's going to be tough
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How old is Kentarou? Can he be the Hero?
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>>164128689
I only put 3 girls and 5 people in total, not a single monster girl at all.
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Was the Rance series well known in the English speaking community before SR got translated
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>>164128798
He is over 20 and he is a demon anyway.
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>>164128798
Too old.

The hero is someone who turned 13 in LP 4

>>164128689
You don't have to answer all the polls and you can just do what >>164128852 did
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>>164128798
Kentarou is just one year younger than Rance. He turned 20 before Arios did.
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>>164128909
no
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>>164128909
No. I'd like to know what else might be a cult classic eroge in japan which we don't even know about. Though there is probably not that much seeing how Rance is probably the biggest eroge series in japan.
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>>164128909
No.

Nobody talked about Kichikuou and nobody is talking about Rance VI either, People are waiting for Quest.
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>>164129136
The English community now is massive compared to 2009
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>>164129205
Also a lot more people speak Japanese now so can get into that stuff, back then it was very rare.
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>>164129205
I wanted to learn japanese already back then and I still only know that hana means flower.
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>>164128689
>not remembering Captain Vanilla

fucking scrub, thats why we need Galzoo Island
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What do I miss by playing Quest without Magnum?
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>>164129443
Most of the story from what I hear
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>>164129443
Why would you possibly do that?
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>>164129443
the better half of the game
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>>164129443
You'll have to grind twice as much and miss half of the plot.
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>>164129430
>twin tails
This is why Valkyrie is superior.
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>>164129443
40% of the CGs including both Shizuka sex scenes, pretty much all the good parts of the plot, some real series relevant shit, Feliss and a whole bunch of gameplay improvements.
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>>164127640
It it the one from Papaya Tower challenges? I don't think it can be captured.The regular wasp girls are much weaker and can be captured in nearby forest.
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>>164127640
Yep

The ones that can't be caught are variations of normal gal monsters.

Wasp girl is a variation of Bee Girl
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>>164129443
A better question is why do you want to play just Quest?
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Ahh... Mister
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>>164128595
You can
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>>164130149
I like her more and more.
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In some way it must kinda suck to fuck hundreds of girls. First time sex with someone is always kinda mediocre. If I was Rance I would only fuck girls that would definitely be in my harem meaning girls I could fuck on a regular basis. Speaking of it, I hope the harem option from Kichikuo Rance will reappear in X.
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Is 04 cancelled?
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>>164130939
No. It wasn't even announced yet.
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>>164130939
No. Just not a priority right now.

Probably after X
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>>164131370
There is no point releasing it after X to be honest.
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Are they going to do a simultaneous release in English and Japanese for X?
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>>164131478

Just like there was no point releasing 03 after ix right.
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>>164131529
No

>>164131478
To make money.
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>>164131478
You can milk the Rance name more. Also, helps to reassure that there's possibilities of other Rance game post-X.

Releasing it pre-X would just show that X will be the final Rance game ever. Also kind of impossible with the remake team on something else.
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>>164131548
There is a difference between IX and the game that will literally finish the series.
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>>164130019
I kind of want to see for myself what AS was thinking with vanilla Quest. I might even like it(my taste in games is shit) and its not like I can't play Magnum later.
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>Monsters in a church
God, the 2nd-class citizens really have some shithole of a church.
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Forcing Rance 04 out would just delay X even further which is pretty bad since its their big release.

And unlike III, IV doesn't need to be updated for X because all the plot elements from IV are resolved in IX
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>>164128195
KR is interesting but because it goes too wide in just one game things get shallow everywhere. It's lore ideas brainstorm the game. It's understandable why it turned that way though.
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What translated non rance alicesoft games are worth playing?
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>>164131795

Those are just pet hanny's and dogs(?) guarding the church!
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>>164131740
But to play Magnum you will have to replay all of quest you can do.

And the Quest ending is still available in Magnum
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Will X really be the last Rance game? I kind of don't want it to end.
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>>164131740
Vanilla quest was clearly released in a unfinished state
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>>164131478
How? Even if the final game is released, it isn't going to suddenly mean there's no one that'll play 04.

It's especially good for people that get into the series later and don't have to deal with games from the early 90s and before to get the entire story.
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>>164131834
The other Rance games, Daiakuji and Galzoo.

I enjoyed the Pastel Chime games but I wouldn't recommend them either

>>164131851
Last canon game
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>>164131851
Yeah. I'm pretty sure it was said in the VI's Alice Mansion that they wanted to end it in X and that was over a decade ago.
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How the fuck are you supposed to do the rescue decoy mission in Rance 6? I just keep getting roasted by the first boss fight
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>>164131834
Daibanchou, Daiteikoku (about 1/3 translated but the interface and gameplay elements are translated so it can be played completely fine). Mamatoto has an amazing soundtrack, gameplay wise isn't as good as the other translated but it's playable and it's not that long either. Toushin Toushi 1, 2 if you are okay with them being outdated. And that's it, isn't it? Basically all of them are worth it depending on your likes. Oh, there was also Dungeons and dolls and one more that was like widenyo, both translated by Maria's guys but they are probably the only ones I wouldn't really recommend. They're just plain bad.
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>>164131834
Mamatoto, Toushin Toshi II, Big Bang Age

Also i really liked Dungeon and Dolls but this is an aquired taste
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>>164132160
Keep everyone in reserve except Rance. Run away from every battle.

Bring the other characters in for the boss fights.
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>>164132049
He said translated, anon.
>>164131834
Daibanchou, Mamatoto and Toushin Toshi II.
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>>164131834
Wait. I'm >>164132049 and thought you meant untranslated.

Toushin Toshi II and Daibanchou should definitely be played
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>>164131834
Toushin Toshi II is probably the best one. Daibanchou is good too.
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>>164131851
There will probably Rance X-2 at the very least.
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>You actually get attacked for stealing the Church's goods
That's a nice addition. I only realized it was the Church's offerings after taking it and wonder if nothing was going to happen.
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>>164131478
The point of the remakes for TADA is for people to be able to enjoy the full Rance series. While the early games are avaible for free, he is aware they're too old for many people to want to go through.
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>>164132515
Will he eventually remake KR as well?
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>>164131740
Vanilla Quest and Magnum are basically the same game, people are exaggerating the dfifferences way too much. (Gameplay-wise, Magnum adds a lot to the story and CG-gallery)
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>>164132725
Technically, that will be the Dream Rance game TADA was thinking of. So, probably not.

It would be fun to see a theoretical remake of KR though. Like which designs would they go with and how the stories would play out.
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>>164132725
Doubt it. He just said he wanted to remake up to 04 and then make a proper 02 remake since the one we have now is just a graphical update.
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>>164131851
TADA is getting old, I doubt he has it in him to make any more games after this.
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>>164132725
He mentions that up to 4 needs remake, that 4.x may not even be worth of it, and that from 5D onward he think it isn't in need of a remake. KR wasn't even mentioned.
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>>164132782
Actually there is a lot of changes to the gameplay on Magnum, although most of them are also avaible to Quest with the 1,5 patch released together with magnum.
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>>164133521
How old is he? Lot of guys keep making games into their 70s
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Abert and Rance seemed like they could have gotten along. In fact, Nobunaga seems to be an attempt at a genuine Abert.
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>>164133785
We don't know, but he's been on Alicesoft for 30 years now, so he's at very least on his 50s. What fun is it to make porn games if soon you won't be able to get it up anymore?
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ok what the shitfuck is the tell in pentagon for the ceilings to know where the pit falls are, i DONT FUCKING SEE ANYTHING and its driving me fucking bonkers
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>>164133964
look at the lights
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>>164133964
There are lights on the ceilings. The lights that aren't on are above the fake floors
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>>164133964
Lights on/off.
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Can I move to Japan and work for Alicesoft?
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>Not falling down each one for the 100%
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Rance IV was objectively the best Rance game
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Is there a limit to the number of party members you can recruit like in sengoku?
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>>164134263
subjectively*
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>>164134263
3 and 6 have better story for me. I like 4 a lot though.
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>>164134715
Yes, but you can change them in the base, so it doesn't matter.
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my problem is i keep falling down the same ones because it doesnt mark them on my map
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>>164134202
No
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Do I have to write down the rules in Magazine tower?
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>>164134956
Only one of them is relevant.
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>>164134956
Nah, just remember to only have mages in the active party when going though barriers.
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How c ome Rizna is considered a mage when she fights with a naginata?
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>>164135184
Because she can use magic.
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>>164135184
Because she has skills for both?
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>>164135184
Because she can use magic

It's not that hard to add one and one together
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>>164135184
Same reason Maria is considered a mage even though she fights using a gun
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>>164135268
Rance can use magic but he's not a mage though
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>>164135361
He can't.
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>>164135124
>>164135142
What about the password?
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>>164135361
What magic can he use then?
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>>164135361
5D doesn't count
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Just checking, but Crane Orbs are supposed to be hard to get early game right? The game isn't really assuming I'll grind Achievement Points all the way to one right?

Saberknight mission, to be exact.
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Do you think MangaGamer will censor the next Rance game due to pressure from SJWs?
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>>164135538
Yeah, they become easier to get as soon as you can handle the left path in the nearby forest, since doing both sides gets you almost enough with just a few more battles needed to get one.
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>>164135538
Yeah they are meant to be rare
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>>164135361
>>164135457
He's piss-poor at it though. Technically, you could do Magic without even a Level 0 in it, it's just that it's utterly worthless.

Actually, not that sure, is not having that skill at all and Level 0 around the same?
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>>164135538
There are Crab orbs, Monkey orbs and Eagle orbs.
The hell is a Crane orb?
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>>164120906
>It never ever becomes impossible to win.
SR? Actually it can, although there's no practical way that it can get that way in a first game, the IF routes are easier to render unwinnable, particularly if you're only using an autosave.
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>>164135414
In Rance 1 he could learn magic.
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>>164135768
Properly retconned in 01.
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How many times do I have to order Sanaki to clean the toilets before the option disappears? Unlike all the other orb-taking choices it doesn't appear to actually do anything.
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>>164135768
In Rance 1 there was a country east of Leazas
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What should I upgrade on Patton?
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>>164135923
Ally guard
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>>164135923
Counter Attack

>>164135886
In Rance I Leazas wasn't called Leazas
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>>164136043
What was it called then?
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>>164136091
Can't remember but I do remember that it wasn't Leazas
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>>164135727
Pretty much from how I understand it, yeah

You'd barely be able to do anything with level 0 magic, but if you studied you could do little tricks I imagine
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>>164136258
Wasn't it called red country or something like that?
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>>164134846
So can you miss an event or person because your party is full?
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Guys, make sure to nominate Rance VI for the Import Only category!
https://2016.vidyagaemawards.com/
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>>164136763
Your party generally hovers around the amount that you're allowed to take into a dungeon anyways.

But no, you can't miss a recruitment like that. If your party is full someone is put on the bench, and you can switch people in and out of the active party
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>>164136763
No. Buy that time Cessna/Prima/Bernard etc don't have events anymore
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>>164136881
Nope
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when are you able to H Rizna? I'm halfway through and still wasn't able to.
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>Cessna doesn't go above 76 EXP at Level 2
Does overflow EXP have a cap to it? That kinda bites for bigger explorations.
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>>164137260
You're not supposed to do bigger explorations
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>>164137197
Alright, then nominate it for Syria Award.
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>>164135538
You can buy the Eagle Orbs in the shop in Italia

I know it sounds like a waste of coupons, but you get plenty enough of them during the game, so spare yourself the grind
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>>164121284
>And if you're referring to the Little Princess part, that's possible to win without cheating. I've done it my first game.
That's a lie. You can't enter the Demon King route on a first game. Pic related.

>>164122643
>I guess they want to prevent you from just grinding endlessly before the final boss though
I doubt that - if they wanted you to not have unlimited time before fighting Xavier, they wouldn't have made that infinitely repeatable event where Suzume delays that youkai's growth.

>>164123302
>and even if you lose battles all the time the game wins for you, so the game is easier.
Not 100% true, losing Owari is Game Over. If you're really sucking against the Demon Army, you could lose there, although that's unlikely to happen provided that you've still got your Permits and the Shimazu blitz has already happened.

>>164124087
>Point people forget is that people who bought Sengoku Rance legitimately had a manual which explained a lot of shit we took time to figure out when we played
To this day, I have still seen no evidence that a manual for SR even exists but either way, I'd love to see it translated, I hate it when shit like this makes games harder outside of Japan.

Trying to tailor any parts of the Wiki towards noobs has proven nearly impossible, I'd like to see how Alicesoft went about it. Personally I wouldn't know where to start when it comes to explaining SR.

>>164124238
If I'm not mistaken, your argument only works if you can choose the difficulty of your first playthrough, which you can't.
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Is there any negative side effects to continuously doing the FR events for Shizuka and Maria?
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>>164137395
NTR later on
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>>164137260
Yes but it's only ever an issue at the really low levels
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>>164137260
You need so much experience later that doesn't matter much.
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>>164137395
Nope
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>>164137395
You cap them too early and their events in dungeons become useless. Other than that no.
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Man I must been playing this game wrong. I'm playing 6 since release and I'm only half way thought.
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So is rance technically the new king of zeth.
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>>164134263
Nah

It's a contender for best Music tough
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>>164137925
As far as Gandhi is concerned.
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Am I the only one who thinks Ragnarokarc Super Gandhi is kind of a silly name?
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>>164138138

Yes
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>>164138138
No, you're the only one in the whole world who thinks that
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New thread? We're over the bump limit.
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>>164138331
Nah, this should just be our last thread.
Ever.
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>>164138523
New Thread
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>>164138138
its a wonderful name only slightly below Super God
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