/twg/ - Total War General

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>Gobbo Archers

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

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>>164001761
Rollan!

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Rock the boat!

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>mfw it's stabby time

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>>164001898
>>164001923
>>164002034
AAAAAAAAAAH!!!
Every FUCKING day with these STUPID fucking MEMES! I've had it up to HERE with stupid fucking memes! You guys make me want to KILL MYSELF! Is that what you fucking want? For me to fucking KILL MYSELF and write on my suicide note "Cause of suicide: Couldn't handle all of the stupid fucking memes, killed myself"? Because that's what it might as well fucking say!
You guys are literally, L I T E R A L L Y incapable of having even the SIMPLEST of fucking discussion without "MEME THIS, MEME THAT, PROBABLY PONTUS, HERE'S A POORLY SHOPPED PIC OF EPIC FAIL ANTIOCHUS FUCKING UP, LMAO TOMB KEKS NOT ANNOUNCED YET, LE EB 2 XD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA EBIN AMIRITE?" Fucking STOP IT you pathetic fucking FAGGOTS, you are such fucking cancer that I cannot even fathom how you fucking scumbags live your dumb gay lives. Don't you have a job to get to, schoolwork to finish or a family to attend to? Do you literally do ANYTHING productive with your lives other than post stupid fucking memes? You fucking people make me sick and you're damn lucky I don't have any of your fucking addresses you fucking pieces of shits. I'd spit in your faces.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH ROME

>>164001761
fuck you skarsnik, worst thread for quite some time you colossal faggot!

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Whew.
That was close.
Also I learned that AI has infinite ammo.
Or at the very least 40 crossbowmen can use the ammo from their dead brothers in the unit.

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Reminder that TWW is fucking good

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>>164002431
Hey hey hey!
It's about time.
Free upkeep time!

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>>164002127
STAAAAB

>>164001913
rollan

>>164001913
roll

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>>164002614
You'z da best, boss!

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>>164002570

Reminder that Call of Duty is fucking good

>>164002614
Why do I love Skarsnik so much?

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>>164001761

>>164002281
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH KARAK EIGHT PEAKS

>>164002127
Holy shit.

This, right here? This is autism. Not 4chan "lel autistic XDD" autism, no. This is legitimate, medical-grade autism. This is what mothers everywhere fear when they find out they're pregnant. This is what gets put up for adoption because parents "aren't ready for this type of responsibility". This is what Midwest American idiots think comes as a result of vaccination. This is what kills families. This is what kids think of when they hear "slow". This is fucking autism. You are so fucking retarded.

I can't believe you bring this shit in here again and again and again. You listen here you underaged, shit-dicked little cum-guzzler: THIS. ISN'T. FUNNY. It's not cute or charming or something that gives people a smile, it's a waste of time, a waste of space, and an eyesore. You make me worry, really really worry about the state of my generation, where the hell is our world gonna go if it's run by shit-stained cuntminds like you that have NO originality and NO creative drive AT ALL? You contribute nothing at all to this board, nothing at all to your fellow peers. You are worse than a dumbass, my asinine little friend, you are a black hole of faggotry and stupidity. You suck in the people around you and corrupt them with your cancerous posts. Your very existence is robbing this world of all things good. Leave this place, sell your computer, and give the money to someone with brains who can wisely use it.

I am legitimately mad right now.

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>build elaborate fort
>leave it to attack anyway

>>164002704
How is that relevant?

>>164001913
something good please

>>164001913
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>>164002792
Fort is for resting not fighting you dumb Nubian

>>164002727
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATHEL LOREN.

>>164002792
>fight enemy inside shiity fort
>
>they encircle you and wait for you to starve
>they hit you from all sides and attack vulnerability points you can't reinforce
>they siege it and lose half the army to panic
>encircle you and keep you inside your cuckshed fort while they raid and pillage every other town around you

pick one
you only fight inside a fort when you are inevitably cucked and outnumbered and wishing for a miracle

>>164003234
well the army I'm attacking decided to fort up instead of moving away

the previous turn I attacked and razed some dumpster town belonging to their vassal they happened to be outside of

>>164001913
alea iacta est

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>>164002704
>haha i'll use CoD as an example because they sell a lot too, right?

Meanwhile CoD is actually fucking dying to Battlefield, and Titan Fall

Best faction for first Attila run?

Day 219
Warhammer is still shit.

>>164004269
WRE

>>164004269
Visigoths.

>>164004269

Don't do Britain. It's really easy and really fucking boring.

Play as anyone in Europe, though. That's all action. Visigoths and Ostrogoths are fun too.

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>africans in charge of warfare

>>164003497
falling for that bait

anon...

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>>164004269

Franks

What's the most cost efficient way of defeating tree niggers as empire? These fuckers are pumping out stacks of exclusively T2-T3 units and none of them break until I kill 99% of them.

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Holy fuck chariots are good

>>164004814
knights of the blazing sun
bright wizard
luminark
sunmaker

burn them

burn them all

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>>164005015

>260 B.C.
>being a seleucuck

>>164005276
I'm having more trouble with the elf units because each one takes so long to route I get peppered to death by the others.

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Kharl! Take the Elector Counts, they're yours!

>>164005879
>tfw there will never be a VC RoR called the Skelegates
>tfw you will never plunge the Empire into 10,000 years of DARKNESS

>capture a town
>it has slums in it

Why are the Seleushits so shit?

>>164006081
>being a makeup wearing cat worshiping gyppo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3q1UhBdfnw

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What new mechanics do you want to see in Total War: Victoria?

I'd like to see the return of the Age of Charlemagne name changed for your faction when you take a certain amount of regions or Confederate with a faction. Going from Prussia to the German empire for example.

I'd also like to see a colonisation mechanic. I like the colony flags of the period and maybe when you colonise a place a faction emerges that is under your control/protection and has the colonial flag.

REDDIT IS TRYING TO DESTROY TOTAL WAR AGAIN

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/5ktyj2/tw_warhammer_has_ruined_all_other_total_wars_for/

REEEE, they are literally asking CA to "streamline" the next TW games.
If the next history total war isn't at least as deep gameplay wise on the campaign and in battles as Attila I will flip out.

>>164006356
>Imperialism meter: spawns an AI controlled friendly stack when filled

>>164006423
thanks anon, I gave it an upvote :^)
I'm serious, fuck you

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>>164006423
forgot pic

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G O B L I N S

>>164006356

I liked War Weariness or the idea of it at least.

No forced march outside of friendly territory. Or, at least have it like in Rome 2 where a forced march army gets ambushed 100% of the time if it gets attacked.

I think we will see it in Warhammer first but multi-map campaigns again. Not one map containing America and Europe scaled down, but a large-scale Europe and America on separate maps that you change between.

Governors for towns [again]. In Galactic Civs 2, you can create templates that contains buildings, priorities, economic focuses and shit like that, and when you colonise a planet, you can choose from the templates you've created and it does it all automatically. Gets tiring just hopping back and forth when you have >40 settlements.

More unit replacements. My favorite thing in Rome 1 and 2 is going from shitty army to the professional legions. It was cool having it in Attila but it wasn't large-scale like it was for Rome.

Multi-stage siege cities. Cities at that point in history are gonna be fuckin huge and a few streets and buildings won't cut it any more. You look at the cities in Warhammer and you are basically fighting in the porch outside and not the city itself.

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>>164006423
>Even the campaign map in Attila lacks the polish of Warhammer
>In fact, a unit of Empire Swordsman fighting a pack of Goblins feels more raw and visceral than Praetorians fighting barbarians
>Attilla seems like it requires a crash course on how the hell to use the UI and conduct empire management

jesus

and my favorite

>I don't know if its the animations or the smoothness or what, but watching a cavalry charge in Warhammer I get a real sense of the weight and impact damage, the physics are amazing; units go flying. In Attila, Calvary runs full speed then usually slows to a halt and starts poking infantry with spears.

Which is hilarious considering Attila is literally Impact Damage: Total War

>>164006423
What are you trying to do? Make me reply with my thoughts on how I think his opinion is stupid?

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>>164004549
they came back later with more armies, and funnily enough the only reason they won is because of the lone mercenary legionary defector they hired.

>>164007029

The impact damage from cavalry units in Attila is way too over the top.

The impact damage in TWW is basically non existant and watching 3/4 of a unit go flying just for them to stand back up really annoys me.

Is it that hard to find a fucking middle ground for CA?

>>164007029
Warhammer babbies think it's normal that people fly 8 meters away and 3 meters high when hit by a horse.

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>many years until the next historic total war
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH ROME

>>164006423

Well according to this >>164002570

The sales for Warhammer was really good so I wont be surprised if the next historical total war ends up being more dumbed down than Warhammer for that juicy casual dosh

>>164007029
>Get Warhammer. Even if you're not a huge fan of fantasy, Warhammer is far easier to play than some of the other titles

This fag is just shit at the game. Look at his post history he is also unironically a commie

>>164007398
>the next historical total war ends up being more dumbed down
I'd have no problem with that tbqh, I play TW for the battles and not empire management.
Attila is fun and all but balancing squalor, public order and a retarded food system distracts from the actual strong points of Total War.
I personally prefer Shogun 2 and Warhammer because they focus more on the battles than the campaign but that's just my opinion.

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>empire campaign
>wood elves attack a garrison of about 12 units, plus 20 soldiers more (miscellaneous stuff)
>easily win
>round two
>send arch lector flagellant group with witch hunter and militias to grind them into paste
>lose another full stack
>still barely fucking affected
I know my arch lector group isn't the best idea tactically, but that insane morale should have done something to them. The first was a balanced army of regulars, so I can understand that getting creamed.
But fuck wood elves. God dammit CA what were you even thinking? I'm only seventy turns in and I'm getting my shit pushed in. I just killed the vampire counts and was starting to unite the empire. But then the fucking knife ears and the short stacks from Angrund came after me.
What
the
fuck.
I can move back a few turns and throw literally three fucking stacks at the fucking knife ears at once, maybe. If I give up retaking two territories from Marienburg. But going that far back, the elves might not even war with me. What do I do then?

Like fuck, man. I'm just salty as hell.

>play attila on normal
>do well on sieges (defending + attacking), do okay on open field battles
>play on hard
>do okay on sieges (defending + attacking), get my ass handed to me in open field battles
Man I am shit at formations

>>164007707
most of the time someone fucks up in a battle they do it because of an army composition, what faction are you playing and who are you fighting?

>>164007707
you are probably getting memed on by enemy cavalry

>>164007707

triplex acies my nigga

works wonders until you decide to get crazy with it and try your own shit out to great success

>>164007676
Just because the game is called Total War doesn't mean that it has to have brain dead campaign mechanics.
A big part of the TW people like to have complex empire management paired with the battles. It makes the battles more meaningful.
I don't really care if I lose a city in Warhams because in the end most of the provinces are the same. There is also no fighting for resources to get access for better buildings or units.
It just more immersive because it feels like you are actually governing a kingdom with an actual population.

>>164007541
Revolution of the proletariat soon friend.

>>164007314
Fuck is this

>>164007985
>Just because the game is called Total War doesn't mean that it has to have brain dead campaign mechanics.
fucking this, I dont get this retarded argument, that ooh the campaign map has always been shit, so they shouldn't ever try to improve it

>>164008048
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Silence

>>164007676

If you play TW for the battles, play custom battles. Don't fuck it up for the rest of us who actually enjoy a campaign.

>tfw getting fucked in another Empire campaign

still can't work out what I'm doing wrong, I just end up with too many enemies around turn 30ish

>>164007985
>I don't really care if I lose a city in Warhams because in the end most of the provinces are the same.
Wasn't that exactly the same case for Attila too? To balance squalor/PO/food there was a 'perfect' solution to the jigsaw puzzle.

>There is also no fighting for resources to get access for better buildings or units.
FUCK THIS FUCKING SHIT, there's even a text in the manual of the limited edition that Vampire Counts need Iron and Wood to recruit Grave Guards, WHY IS THIS NOT IN THE GAME???

I'm not the biggest fan of complex empire management but there need to be places of high strategic value!
Making recruitment of high-tier units and building depending on resources is sooo fucking good, WHY WAS THAT REMOVED???

>>164008219
I want the campaign as a narrative but play TW mostly for the battles.
Fuck multiplayer desu

>>164008281
In attila that only occured because of the massive penalty for local food shortages. If that wasn't in the base game you would have had the opportunity for building specialized provinces. As it is in vanilla the global food supply is pointless as anyone with a brain is already making sure that every province is at a surplus

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>attila dead
>never even went to war with the huns
>never had a hun stack in my territory

2ez

>>164007889
slavs (sclavenians) vs all the hunnic fags

>>164009050
You are supposed to be abusing the shit out of your absurdly broken poison archers as slavs, otherwise the huns & co will faceroll you & your cav-deficient roster

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>>164008878
and soon after a living legend, and the last link between the burgundians and their germanic faith of old passes from our world onto the nex

can siege unit boats disembark with their artillery pieces or are they mounted on to the ship itself?

>>164008438
>the massive penalty for local food shortages
Maybe it's just that what made me hate Attila's empire management, what is the global food even good for except minor buffs?
I played too much AoC instead of vanilla Attila so I'm not even sure anymore why I 'disliked' it

>>164009325
;_;7

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>when you mass build a melee unit but they are actually skirmishers

>>164009340
I don't think siege units spawn at all as transports

Naval siege units are ship-bound

Why can't Chaos Raze and Sack in the same turn? Is there some kind of mod that lets me do that?

>>164009618
>tfw I can never tell what's going on in Attila screenshots

>>164004602
god dammit hentai has ruined that pose

>>164009212
Yeah I know that, still gotta git gud at using them, half the time I end up killing my own guys with them.

why the fuck does the AI stack 10 heroes to an army?

Ogre Kingdoms when? I want a horde that isn't Chaos shits.

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>>164010284
>he doesn't have 10 heroes in his army

>>164004549
lol when are africans in charge of anything other than vitamin deficiencies?

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Which game has the best vikings?

Mods included

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Man fuck the east we all look the same

>>164010527

Attila and Age of Charlememe for Jutes and Danes

>>164010527
Attila

The game with two official Viking DLCs.

Is there any way to fight wood elves on the battlefield at all?
Or do I just open my fucking asshole?

>>164009393
I believe if you're running both a global deficit and a local deficit, your armies in that province will suffer attrition. But if you have a global surplus and local deficit, they'll be fine.

>>164010285
They should have made Wurrzag a horde desu

>>164010869
Cavalry is the only thing that can save you.

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> Tfw playing warhammer
> Put easy mode battles and average campaing
> Hate anything but empire and maybe dwarves
> Save every move because i fucking hate when they ruin my cities
> Dont accept anything but victories so always come back
> Extremely frustrated when i want to get comfy and come hordes of fucking retarded beast man or stupid chaos homosex bears just roam my territory and never fight
> Stupid humans in the west get raped by vampires that at my door now
> Dont know how much armies i can field
> Money always short
> Stupid retarded rebellion system where i cant use all my armies to kill the stupid neighbors

I dont think this slurping semen game is for me guys

>>164011113
Sounds like you're a semen slurper if you can't even play on fucking easy like holy shit are you retarded?

>>164011089
Playable Bretonnia when?
Knife ears need to get rammed by a million horse cocks.

>>164011217
February

>tfw playing Attila as ERE
>showering the barbarians in gifts to keep them as my loyal vassal states
>they keep rebelling as soon as my armies move away
>reconquer and subjugate, shower in more gifts
>they rebel

why won't they love me?

What mods do you guys use for Attila? Is there an icon replacement pack? These building and unit icons are dog shit.

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>the fall of rome happened before the rise of rome

>>164011113
>plays on easy
>abuses quicksave
>letting hordes wander your territory freely
>doesn't help other states
>can't estimate costs
>can't manage money
>can't manage public order on EASY in WARHAMMER

Reddit, the player.

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>fortify at location that just happens to be near river
>game gives me river battle

I DON'T WANT A FUCKING RIVER BATTLE I WANT TO USE THE BARBARIAN FORT THAT ALLOWS MY CAVALRY MULTIPLE WAYS TO REAR-CHARGE THE FUCKING GREEKS

>>164010091
thats r2 dingus

>>164011242
Then I have until before February to beat my Empire campaign and start a Bretonnian campaign to send an unending tide of lances at the fucking elves.
Now to figure out how to get my third army with four two knights, reiksguard, and zintler's down to the elves. He's got the renowned cannons as well.
And Franz, built as an infantry hero and pretty beefy as a tank.
So hopefully I can do something against the wood elf army with that.

But I'm still salty. And I'll try it tomorrow, when cooler heads prevail.

>>164011113
You are probably overextending yourself too early. Sit back, get a great economy going, get the tech and high tier units. You can easily defend one or two provinces for 70 turns and then just go and exterminate everyone else.

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>>164011731
are you fucking kidding me

>>164011973

I take it your infantry can't stand any closer to that rock terrain? I hate it when the game forces you to have gaps in your formation due to terrain.

>>164011973
Barbarians BTFO by superior Roman tactics

>>164011343

Fall of the Eagles

>want to shitpost about Chosen
>don't have my folder on this pc

>>164011973
BTFO

>cpatcha considers deep dish pie a 'za

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is TWC gone forever? I wanted to read that guide on removing some of the mod added units but the page is down

>>164012328
Update never ever.

>want to play Vlad "Daddy" Von Carstein
>remember Durthu "tree Hitler" and the rest of the WELF reich exists
I just wish those fucks stayed in there """comfy""" forest.

>>164012328
I'm guessing Fall of the Eagles does nothing for AoC, right?

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>>164011973
"send in all of the men"
"w-what sir?"
"you heard me, all of the men"
"all of them?"
"yes, all of them"

>>164012572
It looks like it does fuck all but change battles anyway.

are goblin-dominant orc armies competent at all in multiplayer vs other players atm?
what would you try to even do with em?

>>164007226

I'd really like to see what's left of the horse after that kind of collision, too.

IMHO: at least 50% of his bones broken

>>164012467
>TWCenter as a whole has been down for about 2 or 3 days now. According to Facebook they suffered water damage at their data centre.

t. reddit

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>>164011573
Seconding public order. I managed to pacify Sylvania as the Empire. Beat Templehof, sat for three turns while corruption went down. Killed the guy with the one fort down south. Edict to beat corruption. Then killed Carl in his castle with a tide of flatulence and two stacks. Took the other two forts, loot and occupied, fought two separate rebellions for that. Eight total turns from starting war with Templehof and the counts were eliminated.
Five more turns sitting on the territory and building public order buildings.
Also built two shrines of sigmar to weed out corruption. When public order modifier was +2 without armies in the province, I moved them on to better things.

Now I've eliminated a major source of corruption and disorder in the empire. By default, just build up your cities and keep a couple public order buildings in the province, in the minor towns.

Public order is so not a problem that you literally need Chaos and Vampires to exist anywhere near you to start public order problems. You can have heroes sitting around making public order worse, and have enough positive modifier to not worry about it.

In order to have a public order problem, you need to also spend public order at every decision. And not build any bars. Or never host Festag in any territories.

And you still have two hundred points of public order for wiggle room before a rebellion happens.
You even have a tech to research to keep the public quiet. Characters can even specialize to keep the proletariat down.

You literally have to try to get people to rebel against you if chaos isn't creating problems.

And even then, you've got tech, characters provide static boosts against corruption without specializing. an edict, and you can specialize against it.

There are so many tools to passively deal with administration in Warhammer TW that the only thing there is to do in campaigns is war.

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>>164012357
C H O S E N
H
A__ S
O V E R P O W E R E D
S__ X
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>>164011973

>>164012676
And the last thing. With a capital and one or two minor towns per province, you can usually sit two or three armies in a province to quell or delay rebellions. The only time rebellions pop up is if you loot and occupy more than once in rapid succession. In the same province. In the territory you just conquered.

Enemies can be raiding your shit for several consecutive turns and you won't have problems. Enemies can lay waste to forts and you won't have problems.

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>>164013021
>be chosen
>get shot.

>>164012663
fug, all that autism, like tears in the rain

>>164013021
Thanks, m8. May you be as /fit/ as the Chosen.

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>>164001913
I DEMAND THE WARLORD OF KARAK EIGHT-PEAKS!

Skarsnik's like WRE in Attila or Prussia in Empire, I just don't want to play any other campaigns because they suck in comparison

>>164011973
Reminds of the Himyar heavy horse skirmishers I faced as the Tanukhids,none of my archers wounded them and Mavia's lancers did basically nothing.
What mods would you reccomened for atilla, and how good is Fall of Eagles for hordes

>>164013021

Looking at their armor makes you wonder how anything but a bullet or cannonball can actually kill them.

>instal Chaos Divided
>every new infantry unit is worse than their Chosen counterpart
>the only unit of note is Archaon's Varanguard

>>164013308

Too bad they nerfed the squigs to fuck in the last update.

>>164013356
>how anything but a bullet or cannonball can actually kill them.
But those two things are the only ones that could kill them. Except for Manlet.

GONNA S T A B

>>164013308
Belegar's glorious campaign > Skarsnik's easy mode adventure

>>164013559
Ok Begger Nohammer

>>164012572

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=598621992

This is from the same modder, really great reskin overhaul for AoC

>>164013597

t. shitsnik

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>>164012616
Its too bad the river won't literally run red with blood, I'd be interested to see what that looks like

>>164007029
>In fact, a unit of Empire Swordsman fighting a pack of Goblins feels more raw and visceral than Praetorians fighting barbarians

Well I kinda agree. While they toned down the chance of synced combat in Attila there is still some silly sliding and so on which looks pretty bad. I prefer the system of rome 1, medieval 2 and TWW. E.G a TWW infantry charge looks and feel way better than charges in Attila.

>>164013406
You also get whatshisface, the first chaos dragon. OP as fuck

>>164013597
I call him Belegay, but Beggar Nohammer is even better tbqh

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>>164013762
if you look closely you can see the exact location where 5000 greeks died

>>164013768
the combat might be better, but describing it in the manner that that guy does is ridiculous fanboying. raw & visceral should be used to describe what happens to that redditor's anus every night, not the combat of WH

>>164013768
I hope CA keeps the new/old system and uses sync kills in a very, very limited manner.

>>164013416
That sucked, yeah...

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>104 europes + tip for Total Warhammer

oy fucking vey

>>164013762
>>164014013
looks like confetti

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post carpets

>>164014076
You don't need all that. You will soon get brets for free.

>>164014229
Actually would like the whole game and not just parts of it

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ERE was very lucky I didn't have Large onagers, or else this would've been a very different battle

>>164014076
Beastmen & Welf DLC are way overpriced, CA just crammed half-assed mini-campaigns in so that they could justify the price tag

>>164014285

Unless you want to play as the factions, don't waste money until you've played the actual game and decided if you like it.

Chaos campaign is fucking trash. Beastmen are fun but overpriced. Wood elves are fun but overpriced. The rest is worth it, though.

Don't forget the free DLC on the Steam page once you've downloaded it.

>>164014285
Yeah, but unless Beastmen, Wood Elves and Chaos are the first factions you are going to play, then it's better to wait. You never know when there is going to be a sale. Even a small one is good.

The factions are still ingame without the dlcs. You just can't play as them.

>>164014076
>brother bought it on sale for me for Christmas
>grandmother gave me a seventy five leaf loaded credit card
>everything but Chaos (I don't care for Chaos anyway) for free

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>>164014076
not putting the DLC on sale is an unforgivable jew-move imo

>>164014510
>free
what is opportunity cost you dip

>>164014448
That shit is the worst cancer. Having to fight dlc without access to it. Fuck that. Especially the unit dlc. I should be able to turn non dlc content off completely.

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>this recruitment capacity

fucking hell

theres still some more I could get through some building upgrades too

>>164014629
>all those spears
get the burgundian axemen, they shit all over roman troops, you'll just need to shield them from archers

>>164014623

Why? You want the full game, right? It's not a full game if stuff is cut out :^)

>>164013883
He's fucking trash with how janky his combat animations are. He misses most of his swings.

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>>164014760
this is what my army comp is as of right now, I was only using the spears to demonstrate

>>164015265
>Not more barbed javelins

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>164015324
one on each flank is plenty

>>164014076
And its only around 1/3rd done :^)

>>164015497
YOU ARE BURGUNDIANS NOT WOOD ELVES REEEEEEEEEEE

>>164014076
I don't have much of a problem with that, TW's the last gaming series I'm playing.
I've given up on everything else, even Diablo and Pokemon failed me...

So spread your wallet wide since I'm sure there's still going to be at least 150-200€ of DLC coming in Warhammer

>>164014629
WHAT BUIDLINGS?!!!

>>164015704
try $400 if you include game 2 goy

>>164014285
You have the whole game, its just you can't play parts.

You can fight them fine.

>>164015265
I would replace two of the noble swords with burgundian axemen, they are much stronger than they seem on paper anon, just make sure they don't get javelined or charged by cav

What's the most pillage, burn, rape and smash shit up faction in Attila? I tried I think geats (whoever starts in Sweden) and they didn't really have that.

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>>164015265

>zero(0) burgy axemen

Literally one of the most if not the most cost efficient unit in the game

>>164016005
I think its visigoths, one of the barbar factions gets a huge bonus on sack income

>>164015913
This argument is dumb. Sure he has "whole game" but he's gated in what he can access in the game.

>>164016054
I replied to what he said.

>Empire campaign
>take marienburg pretty early and easy
>decide to preemptively attack elves before they confederate
>actions help me form Brettonian NATO
>raze instead of occupy brettonian settlements that were taken over by welves
>figure that my brett allies would be competent enough to go in and resettle them
>2 turns later moussilan, who hasn't done shit all campaign, zergs and gets all of them
>almost destroys 3 factions before I intervene

by the lady I hate the welves, while I got quagmired in Brettonia, the vampire counts go huge and now norsicans are knocking on my door.

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>>164016005

Vandals

>>164016005
>burn, rape and smash shit up

Check the migrating factions and Huns

Huns are literally just burn down everything and enslave people here and there so they have to pay you taxes

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>attacking Roman town
>tfw I send in my Germanic raiders
>tfw they ride through the town and throw fire on the buildings

this is what it feels like to truly be alive

>hear all this talk about FotE
>search youtube for a mod vid
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfLUAgUFqXg
>first comment is about mediveal kingdoms delays
>>164016436
Too bad the blood and burning pack didn't give rape animations
kek

>>164016030
Axemen aren't historically accurate, anon :)

>>164016436
I once won a battle I wouldn't have been able to, by running around with raiders, just outside of the archers range and burning the shit out of the town

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https://youtu.be/5IHWx2q5-Ng

>>164016156
>Expecting the AI to be smart

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Hellolads, member when Hannibal was black

>>164017008
Remember when Hannibal just wanted his tendies?

>>164017008
>member
you should be gassed

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>>164016732

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>>164017159
White boy scared?

>>164017270
>White
who says I'm white?

>>164017008
>>164017270
ah Hannibal, a great turk!

>>164016156
AI will mostly only resettle when there is no immediate threat. They will lose a lot of men after all.

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>>164017008
Remember the great black Aksum Empire? History books don't like to talk about it.

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>>164018004
kang of kangz

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>>164017619

>>164018437
who said I'm black?

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>>164018437

>>164018437
ah, the most glorious battle of colonial britain.
Where they won against literal spearchuckers, after losing to them.

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>>164018632

>>164018004
Every time I see a completely conquered map I ask myself if the person didn't have anything better to do.
How is there any fun left in destroying the leftover factions after basically winning the campaign?

>>164018739
I was just waiting for Warhammer to come out, so nothing better to do.

>>164018731
disgusting, I'm no fucking turkroach!

>>164018704
t. spear chucka

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>>164018437

>>164018704
>implying any other nation would have had the morale to not flee
WEW SOLDIER
>>164018739
BEADY EYES

>>164019050
french and germans would have charged them straight after shooting them.
>>164018949
not to mention, the other most important battle of imperial britain, where they abandoned their equipment and ran onto tugboats while the french covered their retreat.

Isis, Isis, lovely Isis.

>>164019170
>french and germans would have charged them straight after shooting them
Ah yes, because that's the right thing to do when you have guns.

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I'm pretty sure Attila is the best game ever.

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>>164019317
pretty sure you're wrong

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>>164019237
Pic related is best solution to this Moslem problem
>>164019247
I disagree with him, but one sign of american retardness was not charging after musket fire in their civil war, as that's how you save so many lives
>>164019317
That's not how you spell mediveal ;^)

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>>164019367
>>164019317

Into the book it goes.

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>>164019424
Go away, shortstop.

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Ancient Empires

>>164019317
I agree with you anon

>>164015782
lvl 4 farms give +1 capacity, the province has iron so the forge tree gives +1, will be +2 eventually, barbar smithing gives +1, so does the yellow chain for both cities & towns

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>>164019424

>>164019386
>someone saved my screenshot
T-this has never happened before

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>tfw members of your court are constantly badgered by horny old women looking for husbands

>>164019487
>horde icon
>city graphic

????

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>>164019539
Was this you?

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>>164019616
Greeks were hordes, didn't you know?

>>164019616
I'm going to guess that the city graphic is just how their encampment looks until they conquer the nearest city and actually have a civilization.

Of course, maybe this Horde thing might be some odd workaround AE did in order to have more cities and more factions without editing the map.

>>164014076
You can get the base game for about 30€ outside of Steam.

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I wish I had this level of confidence.

>>164019630
No, but I post my shitty screenshots in these threads quite often. It feels good seeing at least one person saving them.

AE fucking when?

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PIKEMEN
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>>164019785
>Of course, maybe this Horde thing might be some odd workaround AE did in order to have more cities and more factions without editing the map.
Probably

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>>164020014
I WONDER

HELP /TWG/
In atilla on the diplomacy screen it's just ugly pictures of the characters and not animated models like before, what should I do?

>>164020374
Go into graphics options, look for a "3D portraits" option.

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What exactly does Europa Perdita do to campaigns, and what exactly does Fall of the Eagle do to everything in changes?
Steam workshop pages for them are really brief and obviously TW center is down.

>>164019981

kek what is this? Hannibal the anime?

Here's to hoping FotE removes barb crossbows so I don't need that mod again
>>164020421
danke
>>164020884
Pullo?

>>164020923
Ad Astra.

>unsub from tonnes of mods to try out this FotE shit everyone is raving about
>Initally mod doesn't load
>then crashes when I click select all
>finally lets me load game
>mod didn't enable so have to relaunch
>background is sexy
>barbarians finally don't have crossbows
>THEY STILL HAVE FUCKING ONAGERS
WTF
>saxons also have nordic infantry
WTF I thought you guys said it was well designed

>>164003497
>Meanwhile CoD is actually fucking dying to Battlefield

That's a real travesty to be honest

>>164020356
the only bad thing about AE is that it uses those ridiculous Rome2 human models and not the much more normal looking Attila ones

>>164007226
Surely you mean R1 babbies?

>>164021707
its unfinished and abandoned

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I thought I was playing Atilla not kingdoms
>>164021915
unfinished in what way?

>>164022132
that he didn't finish what he wanted to do before he ran out of time / lost interest and moved on, thus leaving mechanics, factions, etc unfinished

>>164001913
Rollan!

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>>164008187
That's fucking cool as hell dude.

>>164007314
Their last dev team thing said they might make more DLC for historical titles

More Attila soon

Nothing is decided yet but I shjall make it happen through willpower

Great Lakes Shipping Total War when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vST6hVRj2A

>>164022725
Official AoC faction pack PLS

tfw no anime: total war

>>164022836
You can't just post any song and put "total war" in your post to make it total war related.

>>164023271
Jet Pilot Total War when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDIQ-PnPSUE

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Are they right /twg/? Should CA scrap campaign features for a more streamlined game?
Should CA cater to people who want battles nonstop?

>>164023271
Villain Total War when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1ZUVoTX1PA

>empire has tons of wizards
>need a level 5 city to build their recruitment building

For what purpose

>>164023459
Absolutely not.

>>164023271
>ignoring the great war between the 26,000 tons of iron ore and the edmund fitzgerald

shame on you

>>164023473
Bees: Total War when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6iN6VTL7v8

>>164023520
Well, guess which forum is heavily watched by CA to get feedback?

2hu Total War when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpz4G-qgH_8

>>164023459
Not really, but I think there are better ways to implement campaign complexity than what was done in Atilla, which wasn't really that interesting.

>>164023604
I don't get it, if people don't want the management part of the game why don't they just play battle after battle?

>>164023678
The AI should be made to deal with it first of all. Fucking starving AI in Attila.

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sucks that he swapped pikes for psears on the starting unit but what evs
>>164022371
damn, looked kinda interesting

relationship Total War when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkgP54FuvIM

>>164022132
>unfinished in what way?
some factions and units haven't been touched at all, which can make them severely over or under powered compared to those that are finished

>>164022725
rise of islam could be cool, but they will probably pussy out an AoC expansion with more units and buildings and shit and maybe even a bigger map would be amazing but they have the no DLC for DLC policy

>>164023784
Well, because they apparently want to have a loose "story" so that the battles are not meaningless.
which is stupid because deep campaign game play makes the battles much more noteworthy and important.

>>164023784
The campaign map was created to give battles context. I don't agree with these redditors when it comes to managment, but you don't need complex managment on the campaign map to give battles context.

>>164023459
>unpredictability and grand clashes
that guy is on point, warhammer has none of those, it plays out the same every single time, truly confederations were a mistake

>>164023271
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars

>>164023459
Eh, the campaign is mainly something that gives battles context, you don't really need all that depth for that. If I had to choose between being simple or convoluted I'd go with the first. The first TW games weren't bad for being simpler than the new ones.

>>164023489
>VC well known for dominating Magic phase in tabletop, constantly summoning more units and buffing them
>have to wait to lv 4 settlement to recruit vampires or necromancers
>can't summon if already have 20 units
>summoned dead don't stay into next battle

>>164023963
It helps alot though. Deciding if you should leave armies defending your investments, where you spent money and are actually important to your empire makes the battles to protect that region much more important, at least for me.

Plus the management in Total War is far from complex. In the R2 campaign I post here (the one about the Iberians or some shit) is actually being fun because I'm having to balance where the funds go to (for example, they're not going to Britain because after I conquer it I'm gonna leave it alone), I spent much money in Central Europe because the last clash will be with the Spartans and I need zones that replenish fast and where I can gather troops quickly, in Arabia I spent money on ships because I needed to defend against naval invasions.

I quite like these little complexities.

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>>164023459
Holy fuck this makes me mad.
Total War has always had a big emphasis on the actual campaign aspect seeing as it's half the fucking game, but these mouthbreathing ADHD autists need 'muh baddles' constantly in their first TW game.
If CA listens to these mongoloid fucktards I'm going to lose it.

>>164024214
Adding to this, in Empire: Total War knowing that you could get buckets of money from the Middle East and India actually made it fun to try to conquer those regions, so that you could upgrade everything fast.

In Warhammer I just don't get the same enjoyment (only have 12 hours in it though), it just don't feel right mang. I'm not saying it's bad, and maybe for ahistorical games they can make it more story focused, but "realistic" Total Wars should be a bit more complex.

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>>164023862
This is why you don't attack someone who can flee faster than you, they come back with a bigger army and crush your head against the sandstone for the carrion to eat out your mushy brain

>>164024010
>unpredictability and grand clashes
>Warhammer as none of those

But my TWW games are different every time though. Sometimes Bretonnia becomes big really fast and sometimes the dukedoms go into a stalemate. Sometimes the dwarfs/orcs wins the badlands and sometimes none of
them win.

In my second Empire game the orcs won the badlands and kept invading my shit in sylvania. I had huge battles there.

I had bigger problems with large clashes and so on in Attila because none of the AI factions grow strong enough, so the game basically becomes Settlers:Iberia edition

>>164024010
>he hasn't seen a Franz-Boris alliance been beaten Wissenland-Asterland alliance

>>164024354
>knowing that you could get buckets of money from the Middle East and India actually made it fun to try to conquer those regions

Well there are regions like that in TWW too. Capturing Wissenland is a great way to produce elite armies as the Empire. Taking Gold and Wine provinces can give you a lot of money.

>story focused

Would call it "battle focused", but whatever.

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>>164024339
Warhammer is the new norm my friend. It makes too much money for not influencing the newer titles.
Let the rage flow though you. CA is very active on reddit.

Hammerers or Slayers?

>>164024650
HAMMERERS!

>>164001913
its gona suck

>>164024579
My campaigns are always "battle" focused though. In the last thread you have screenshots of me in one turn taking on a city with 4000 men inside and then two clashes where the AI brings armies with 3000 and 5000 people.

When I was playing against Egypt I had a fight against 5000 horsemen, not counting the other battles against normal armies. The only Total War that doesn't have many battles is Napoleon and Empire, and only if you actually strive to be liked by every faction.

The management doesn't detract from the battles either, this just seems like (I'm talking about the reddit posts, not yours) people crying about actually having to think about what they can build in different provinces and having to balance happiness with money making or the production of quality armies.

>>164024650
They serve very different purposes. Hammerers are suited for more things though.

>>164024650

Great weapon longbeards > both, sadly.

>>164024650
they both get shot to death sometimes but at least hammerers are armored and might survive

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why is this allowed

also, post weird armies i guess

>>164024797
>The management doesn't detract from the battles either, this just seems like (I'm talking about the reddit posts, not yours) people crying about actually having to think about what they can build in different provinces and having to balance happiness with money making or the production of quality armies.

No I also like the management. I never agreed to the reddit posts. The reason I said "battle focused" is because there isn't that much direct story in TWW(so story focused would be wrong). You could say Napoleon has more of it.

>>164023963
>but you don't need complex managment on the campaign map to give battles context.
But you do get a bigger variety of possible contexts. More things can happen. It's more interesting.

Instead of two generals fighting over a town, it's a young prince trying to cut his teeth against an old, dying empire. It produces stories of vengeful kings, treasonous generals, rebellions, disease, natural disaster and tragedy. Long, epic wars that you can see through to the very end from start to finish.

The complexity of the campaign adds drama and it's so fucking worth it.

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Do these dwarf upgrade buildings only work locally?

>>164025001
>might survive
Not if your enemy has gobbo archers.

>>164025153
Unless stated "globally" or "all characters", yes

>>164025049
I agree with you.

>>164025120
But then you can't just send thousands of men against other men and watch them fight, because you have to figure out ways of making your Empire actually run. Why do you think Radious is so popular? People just want to build big armies maaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn.

>>164025153
Yup, it's province wide. It's like that in every Total War. In this case, any unit recruited in the Desolation of Nagash would gain the benefit, but not outside (unless it has a similar benefit, of course.).

>>164024405
>But my TWW games are different every time though
literally never happens for me, dwarves always win badlands, leouncour gets fucked by one of the smaller dukedoms, undead rolls over the empire etc

its always exactly the same, and I played at least 10 campaigns

>>164025120
I'm not disagreeing with you but you really don't need the game to tell you all that, you can come up with stuff like that by yourself if you like, like soldiers in xcom having just a name. Of course having mechanical bonuses/maluses tied to the narrative coming up in the game is nice, but again I put the first TW as an example of it being simple while giving enough context to battles.

>>164025314
Dwarfs almost always have a bad time in my games. They either get wrecked so hard I have to help them(if I am playing the Empire) or they go into this slowly losing stalemate with the greenskins.

Everything has happened in Bretonnia. Sometimes they unite, sometimes they go status quo, sometimes beastmen wreck almost all of the dukedoms and sometimes Estalia invades.

>>164025314

Sounds unlucky pham, typically for me Grimgor never loses his first army which allows him to steamroll the badlands with his 3 gold chevron doom diver which gets ~500 kills per battle. Grimgor himself not being 'dead' allows him to level up more, making him even more OP.

Typically, if he loses his first army, he's done for good. No black orcs, 5 turns of no XP (which also makes hiring RoR harder), no doom diver, no waaagh, nothing, allowing Dwarfs to take the badlands with relative ease.

>>164025120
>It produces stories of vengeful kings, treasonous generals, rebellions, disease, natural disaster and tragedy. Long, epic wars that you can see through to the very end from start to finish.
this, the trait system, the random elements, diseases, religion and starvation makes your campaign much more meaningful

notice how there are no >greentext stories about generals in warhammer, because its always some legendary twat with a predictable as fuck campaign

>>164023870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqScOIKDmUQ
America Total War when?

>>164025442
>>164025463
maybe its because I play on legendary, but I haven't seen orcs win once

>>164025482
There has been some. I did one with a lore character some time ago(renamed General of the Empire) and a OC arch-lector governor of Sylvania.

>>164025482
In Rome Total Warthe traits made characters much more interesting, hell, even those in Empire actually had more character than the ones in Rome 2 and Warhammer, for me at least. Almost everyone has the story about the bad heir, or the awesome young general that gets killed in battle, the cucked King, the son avenging the father and shit like that. The randomness actually helped you get immersed, you'd choose weak guys as governors and strong ones as generals and so on.

Warhammer just seems dry, though it is still a very good game. My worry is that they go further simplofying the game, until it's literally a risk map with fixed armies that you just move around and then do battle with.

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>>164024384
Still learning just how light this cav is

>>164025754
>no pikes
>only 1 bow infantry
>only 1 bow cav
>2 melee cav
>1 skirmisher cav
>STILL FUCKING ONAGERS
Very interesting design choices this guy has made

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Must have modes for empire and shogun, IF YOU PLEASE!

>>164026286
Darthmod Empire is probably the best mod for Empire, Shogun 2 I would recommend you don't get a overhaul but instead get small mods that change the game just a bit for it to be more fun for you.

>>164025482
>>164025672
What is the origin of the 'Secelcid bully not so tough after getting raped' meme

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>hero has almost no HP
>have to fight manually against 4 units or he will die when i use auto result

>>164025336
>you can come up with stuff like that by yourself if you like
but that shit's gay nigga, the game should do it for me. I don't want to maintain some kind of autistic head-canon, I want there to be complex, observable drama happening in the game mechanically.

The best way to do that is to add more complexity to the campaign side of things, with internal affairs, foreign relations, supplies and public order, religion, royal families etc while also adding complexity and fidelity to the tactical battles.

The best fucking moments in total war is seeing the drama of what you've done on the strategic map playing out in a tactical battle. The more fidelity on the tactical map the better, because you can see the face and garb of the man you've spent hours building up to be one of your best generals/faction leaders. The more complexity on the campaign map the better, because it means you can attach unique stories to the faces you see in the battles, characters become memorable.

There shouldn't be any compromise on either side, Attila fucking brilliant because of this. It adds complexity to the battles AND the campaign.

>>164026551
The Seleucid Empire, IIRC, was pretty much conquering everything around it when the bully, Rome, raped them. They were tough for the area, but then got fucked by ROME CONQUERS.

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jesus christ /twg/ is there a less comfy campaign possible than the greenskins one this is horrible with enemies in all directions and rebellions everywhere

>>164026612
>Attila fucking brilliant because of this

The trait system in Attila isn't that good to be honest

>>164026551
Antiochus agreed, but when they met and Antiochus held out his hand in friendship, Popilius placed in his hand the tablets on which was written the decree of the senate and told him to read it. When the king said that he would call his friends into council and consider what he ought to do, Popilius drew a circle in the sand around the king's feet with the stick he was carrying and said, "Before you step out of that circle give me a reply to lay before the senate." For a few moments he hesitated, astounded at such a peremptory order, and at last replied, "I will do what the senate thinks right." He then chose to withdraw rather than set the empire to war with Rome again.

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First time playing Warhammer. Wiped out the secessionists and took out Marienburg. What should i be doing now? Don't want to attack Middenland yet since they are allies with Nordland and i'm trying to complete the Runefang quest. Should i help out Wissenland and go after Skarsnik or do something else?

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>>164026286
>empire
this is a choose your poison situation, there is no perfect mod, as all the good ones are flawed in one way or the other. You have to choose from:
>Darthmod
ancient bugs solved by all other mods are still present, some questionable choices regarding naval movement, but overall a solid mod and the only mod I have ever seen that mostly adds good music
>minor factions revenge
a light mod that adds a lot of minor factions and units to those factions doesn't change as much as the others and is the closest thing to vanilla+, a big negative point is that it adds incredibly shitty music like two steps from hell into the game and commits the terrible crime of replacing the amazing battle loading screen music with shit, playing as a minor faction is a lot of fun BUT is possible in all other overhauls anyway
>imperial splendor
still a work in progress, has some cool features and good balance, but has an absolutely disgusting lighting scheme, like seriously it looks like fucking shit, see pic related, this is supposed to be the bloody middle east

>>164026286
I haven't played it for Darthmod for Empire, but the Napoleon mod was absolute shit, with especially bad morale balance

Other anons tend to recommend Imperial Splendour

>>164024650
ironbreakers my man

>>164026858
Napoleon should be played with La Montee de L'Empire or with no mods, in my opinion. And Darthmod should really only be used with Empire. The one for Shogun 2 is stupid as fuck.