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AZW Edition

(Looted) thread: >>163288518

READ THE PASTEBIN BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS.

LATEST BANNERLORD INFO/VIDEOS:

Gamescom Siege video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv2qb66PbUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rq-fEc1N0

Interviews with Armagan at Gamescom '16:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZcBAGtXvpk

Last blog:
https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/16

OLDER BANNERLORD INFO/VIDEOS: See Pastebin

PASTEBIN: http://pastebin.com/WaB1BTBJ

M&B Wiki: http://mountandblade.wikia.com/wiki/Mount_and_Blade_Wiki

NOOB GUIDE: http://imgur.com/a/FMAqV

M&B VERSION ARCHIVES
>ftp://ftp.taleworlds.com/

>Anon's mods and upstab guide:
http://pastebin.com/agwZu9Df
>/mbg/ Steamgroup
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/mountandbladevg

Module Recommendations :
>Undead Calradia
http://www.moddb.com/mods/undead-calradia
>Gekonewer
https://mega.nz/#F!itxViDAT!PhBfJWsjATkdqN28V2kZ5g
>Dickplomacy 4.3.0.7b
https://mega.nz/#!mQQmBQ5a!tomenTON1qzCZ-kiVG9vlHz7LqoY1Hmwi-kQrq43Hhw

>"I made a mod recently or updated it. Wat do?"
Link to the OP in your post so that it might be easier to find for the one making the next OP (also for regular people).
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Stop using cavalry
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>>163933287
OOPS. Actually (Looted) thread is this >>163694875
No bully faggots.
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where the
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>>163933386
When you stop killing people and burning churches, snownigger.
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>>163933386
>being a rank and file spearman
>not being an important general who has the privilege of riding a horse into battle like Wotan himself
Varg Vikernes everyone.
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I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the original Cao Cao poster until we get a good Romance of the three kingdoms mod.
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>>163933804
forgot to say that i'm posting this every thread until the ginge sees it and realise that at least one of /mbg/ died without playing bannerlord. and to honour the anon's dying wish.
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>You will never have a pure steppe waifu

Why even live?
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good saxon = dead saxon
same goes for danes and other northern filth
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Gaelic waifus only.
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>>163934163
charlemagne pls go
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VENI VENI EMMANUEL
CAPTIVUM SOLVE ISRAEL
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>>163934163
What about the Anglo-Saxons?
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>>163935098
Some of you are alright. Don't come to the feast tomorrow
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>>163935098
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>>163935098
>Anglo-Saxons
>Saxons

I'm triggered, mate.
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>Capture all kingdoms except Nords and Rhodoks
>Have six vassals
>Give each vassal 3 Towns, 5 castles, 10 villages.
>Vassals begin to hate me for giving the other a village
>Leave me to join the Nords who are about to get conquered by my army
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>>163936341
Many of the preachers under Charlemagne were Anglo-Saxons, some even helped convert the Saxons.
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>>163936782
>Anglo-Saxons
>Saxons

There's that word again!
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>>163935076
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvuukZfZi1o
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>early game hobo phase, in need of income
>march towards enemy village to raid it
>it's full of bandits
>kill the bandits
>villagers are grateful
>can't bring myself to raid it
>head towards other village
>intercepted by Lord Assrape and his massive fucking army

fuck you nietzsche
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>it's a 24 horseman fucking brawl in a tiny arena episode
Why the fuck do the khergits do this?
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>>163938131
They want their wives to fight alongside them.
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>>163938131
Why not? It's the easiest tournament, I always win.
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>>163933386
>being so poor your commanders don't have horses
literally a nigger
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>>163936586
>having your own vassals
loll
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>>163933386
I play Rhodoks because cavalry is mad boring
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>>163934249
What mod?
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>>163940126
Viking Conquest.
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>>163940221
I was really hoping it wasnt. Does it still crash and perform like a bitch?
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>>163940652
For me? Crash, no. Perform bad, yes for big battles.
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How do i order my troops to pike-brace on 1257? Also the tactics menu is the boring native one without proper formations, is this normal?
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>>163940652
they fixed long time ago with the "reforged edition" it doesn't have game braking bugs (or any) like it used to.
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>>163941270
Forgot to add that the 1257 in question is the modded one from the pastebin.
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How hard is it to make weapons that are actually unique in their use? Do you think Bannerlord's modding tools will allow you to make unique weapons?
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>>163942080
unique weapons as in "name your shitty ass sword that you'll drop because of some masterwork pick you found 2 hours after"
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If Bannerlord doesn't release 2017 I'm gonna do something drastic and maybe even radical
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>>163942201
>he's actually going to play Bannerlord's native
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Is there any good pornographic art of M&B?

would love to see harlaus railed in the ass with a solid stick of butter
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>>163942756
t. installed floris or pop for first warband playthrough
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>>163942879
Nope. There's a reason to play Warband native, but there won't be for Bannerlord. The best thing about Bannerlord is that the depth of modding will be improved, and I assume you won't need script extenders for complex features.
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>>163942864
Wew lad
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>>163943078
>There's a reason to play Warband native, but there won't be for Bannerlord
ebsplain
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Anyone play Blood and Coin? Multiplayer was dead last time I checked.
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>>163939916
It's boring but the most effective.
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>>163942201
someone asked in one of the PC gamer videos if you have to wander towns looking for masterworks, and the ginge answered that you will have to wander to look for armour not weapons if you have a crafted one.
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>>163943430
I did. Most mods for Warband are just native but with new items, possibly a new map, maybe some features from a better mod, and one or two unique features that serve mostly as a gimmick added on top. Very few are distinct and unique in their implementation of things, and very few set themselves apart from the rest, even graphically. Compare some generic low-fantasy mod with another generic low-fantasy mod and you'll see they're roughly the same. With Bannerlord, I expect the Native will be like a regular mod for Warband, save for a few new features to show off something they've added to the engine.
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>page 10

Does fucking lords in diplomacy affect your relationship with them?
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page 10
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Is the warband 1866 version better than the original 1866?
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>bitch ass mongols hiding behind invisible walls
Shamefur dispray. Also fuck 1257 sieges, Jesus Christ what a clusterfuck it was.
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i'm getting burned out on warband, what do i do?

i've played a fucking shit ton of various mods and all of them get boring for various reasons, such as gekokujo not having diverse amounts of troops and it ends up being pike and bow spam, PooP taking fucking forever to get to the point where you are building up the kingdom of pendor and the game is actually fun, finding out Nova Aetas has a serious bug and i can't produce calradic empire troops in cities, which makes me quit the game immediately, etc.

i just want warband to be fun again and i don't know what to do
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>>163947020
play MP

After a couple thousand hours I can't even play SP anymore because I've done it so many times. MP is starting to get old for me too because there's only shitters left.
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>>163934249
I wanted to keep her as a waifu but she disappeared after some time :'(
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>>163946860
Warband 1866 is multiplayer only so they're not only comparable
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>>163947020
Native got boring too?
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>>163947645
i have absolutely no interest in native mp, so the only mp i've been playing is napoleonic wars and Full Invasion 2

i've already put probably 200 some hours into NW multiplayer and i am not as good at bayonets as a lot of those other people, and FI2 is full of people who exploit and constantly vote for the same small handful of factions when the game has like fucking 40 to choose from.

I'm also 32 years old so gittin' gud just gets harder for me, i don't have the reflexes i used to, and i can't block those people who rapidly feint and then slip an attack in
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>>163947645
Will I need the Napoleon dlc? A lit of the active servers are just for that module.
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>>163947973
Napoleonic Wars is memey trash and not at all required
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>>163947912
>tfw you're only 19 and you can't even handle native MP because of reflexes
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>>163947912
>the only mp i've been playing is napoleonic wars and Full Invasion 2
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>>163941270
Press f4 for formations menu
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The last character you played in any other game has to fight your Warband party.
Who is more fucked?
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>>163933963
Should try the Dynasty warriors mod, my dude
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>>163948928
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@163948737
(dotted line)
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>>163948737
>main character of Corridor 7 vs my warsword conquest sylvania party

he'll be fine, one shot from the alien disintegrator would kill everything
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>>163948737
>My Sith Lord fighting my 100+ strong Nord Warband

Given the fact that he can just use lightning storm to wipe everyone out I'd say my Sith would win.
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>>163948737
My sims 3 character, a Vice president who can cast fireballs vs my Warsword party, a Chaos warband filled with Chosen and demons

I think my VP will be raped
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>>163948737
Dragon's Dogma low level warrior
He'd probably fuck some of my knights up but he's screwed beyond that
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My name is Rofl, son of Rofl, of the House of Rofl
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>>163950603
t.Rofl
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>>163948737
My warband is going t ge demolished by the Kingdom of Flanders' army.
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>defending Lundenwic from filthy wessexes
>this is our defence line

Fucking what. At least I could easily backstab them.
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>>163948737
>Fighter/Mage CHARNAME vs 80 polish shitters

>Horrid Wilting
>Battle won! Press tab key to leave...
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I got 1000 hours on this game but still havent git gud.

What is the plan with companions? I have artimenner, the fratricide ginger, and that weak kitchen girl with healing stats. Playing vanilla.

How do I upgrade them? Do I have to let them see combat? Will trainer work on them? Do trainer stats stack with any companions trainer stat?
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>>163951968
trainer works, and companion trainers stack.
fastest way to level them up is combat, having them kill stuff.
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>>163946958
File name alone deserves a (you)
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So the end of the year is coming /mbg/

are you going to kill yourself if the bannerlord doesnt come out?
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>>163952632
>bannerlord coming out in four days
very unlikely
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>>163933616
>>163933764
>>163939365

>swadian manlets mad they have to ride a horse to be knee level with the nord master race
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>>163953041
>when a nord woman kills your king
how can swadcucks even compete?
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How do I prevent my companions getting their shit pushed in with every battle?

I currently have them all assigned to a Bodyguard group that always follows me, but I keep them on foot because otherwise they charge with my cavalry. Should I give them horses anyway?
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>>163953291
Give them 30 STR and max power draw. Then just plant them somewhere and let them do their thing.
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Can't help but share this bit of wisdom from another thread
"This is why I'm actually glad (TW) is hiding a lot of content, and why I hope they don't listen too intently to the community. Keep an ear open in case any good ideas or legitimate problems show their head, and for the most part ignore everything else."
Reading Steam threads (or 578 posts for that matter) is truly frightening
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I wish dickplomacy anon hadn't gone berserk, I wanted to ask him to let as export/import all characters, I fucked up and don't feel like restarting, I think I am going to drop dickplomacy alltogether now
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>>163942080
Well first will come the grind to get the weapon parts to make the weapon I want. Don't care yet if it ends up.being useful
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>>163953392
Should I just make them archer medics?
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>>163953258
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>>163953830
What are the best 578 and Steam forums ideas?
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>>163954426
Delet
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>tfw loads of elite spearmen
>tfw holding shield wall with my niggas
>tfw on thot patrol 24/7
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Jeremus or Artimenner???
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>>163954783
>tfw can't pay for my shieldwall niggas
>tfw my villages arent paying taxes
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>>163954867
Tough choice
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>>163954878
>have two villages on the border with a faction we're at war with
>whenever I'm not near, it's burning 24/7

Alternatively
>have a village on the other fucking side of the border of the country I'm at war with
>instead of burning the villages closest to the border, they go all over the continent to burn mine
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>>163954878
>>163955219
Just how many men are you dealing with? post army and weekly budget
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>>163953041
Oh, so I guess you're just waiting for an eight legged one, right?
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>relationship with Christians at -100
Welp
I'll never be friendly with anyone but the vikings.
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>>163956454
>burn one monastery
>literally everyone is now mad
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>playing VC sandbox after story
>Reginhard becomes an adventurer
>Bodo becomes an adventurer
THEY FUCKING DIED
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>not owning warband before any major mods were released
newfags...
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How many items need to be in an addon like the ones in the pastebin for it to be considered releasable?
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Holy shit blood and steel is so much fun. When I first saw it, I thought it would be another piece of shit with stolen assets, but I don't think I've ever enjoyed playing a mod that much since Swedish mayo or 1257. It's so satisfying training your troops from medieval shit, to full renaissance troops, and not having to wait forever like nova aetus. It's lit
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>OI, YOU THERE
>STOP

What do you do?
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>>163957894
Isn't that mod dead though?
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>>163958339
I don't actually know, I just noticed I downloaded it and spent 5 hours playing it. Incredible fun. Great if you wanna make a mercenary army and you don't want to play the buggy Europe in flames
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>>163958994
I'm pretty sure Blood and Steel has more bugs though, like items being invisible and large bright flashing ribbons near rivers.
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>>163958225
I'll give you nothing but cold steel, you scum!
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>>163958225
Beat one of them with the stick
Collect his weapons
Murder the rest

ez pz
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>>163958225
If it's VC or Gekokujo I'm fucking out of there
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>>163960165
>spawn with a fucking staff while against 5 people with a 200 reach spear

thanks obama
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>>163959162
You right, but it seems to have more depth. Idk, but it's a ton of fun
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do I kill those kids in VC? I picked justice as a trait so killing kids seems odd
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Anyone have an up to date DL link for Morgh's editor?
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>>163961047
You can kill kids and still be just. I mean, they probably harass old people and tip cows! Surely they shall meet the sword.
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>want to play ACOK
>remember it's shit
>also remember that old versions exist and can be Morgh'd
>mfw
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>>163963450
I don't follow the Gay-me of Thrones shit much, isn't the Song of Ice and Fire mod supposedly better than ACOK?
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Why is my relation with my castle constantly falling down, even though I even set the taxes to low and constantly trying my best to do as many quests as possible?
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>>163963872
*World of Ice and Fire
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>>163963872
ACOK is muh graficks and immershun

AWOIAF has better gameplay but looks terrible/terrible atmosphere
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>>163964581
i have a toaster and have never played either

how is awaifu better gameplay? and how is it bad atmosphere?
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is there a guide for which enterprise to put in each city?

I cant tell from the guild master how profitable each will be. I dont understand the numbers of the shortages
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>>163964581
>ACOK is muh graficks and immershun
So that's why it's so popular with those shitty Mount and Blade Jewtubers. Still don't know why Pendork is though.
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>>163963872
technically ACOK is better but it gets worse every patch and cozur is a giant faggot
>>163965967
pendor is muh hardcore audience when it isn't actually that hard
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>>163965573
You will probably be able to run ACucK but will have to keep battle size low.

AWOIAF lets you turn off tripping and static diplomacy. It also uses Brytenwalda as a base so its sea battles are vastly superior to ACOK's. Unfortunately, that also means a lot of its scenes look like they're in the Dark Ages.

I wish the powers that be could fuse the two and create the perfect mod.
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>>163966343
>turn off tripping

are there any Acocks without tripping worth looking at?

otherwise awoiaf it is
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At last, I truly see who is my friend
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>>163948737
>Markus Kruber from Vermintide
considering how crazy the knockback from that warhammer is my party will be eliminated before even getting in range after he sniped all my archers with his repeater
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>>163966760
Well fuck
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>>163956636
Did you at least nail the abbess on the alter?
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>>163966964
>not using the handgun to snipe specials
baka famalam
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>>163967834
I used to but I think you'll agree that an orange repeater is better than a green handgun and till I get a better one I'm stuck with this
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should I just do weavery then dyeworks every othertown alternating?
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>>163965693
the ingame economy is a joke and your enterprises won't affect anything, so just buy the one that profits the most.
might be different in some mods, but on like 99% this is the case
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>>163964581
Why hasn't anyone stolen the ACOCK assets and put them n awoiaf yet?
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>>163968759
because got is trash anyway
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>>163968759
which "assets" would actually be worth stealing in that pile of shit?
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Wait a minute. Hol' up.

What happened to hyperweave? Did they also remove bullshit vancidium from EPOE too? What about advanced components, how does all that advanced stuff get made now?
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>>163968632
so if a city has a shortage of dyes and silk, does that mean i should set up a dyeworks, or no?
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>>163969515
anon i dont know what you're on but i want some
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>>163968982
All the ones that look better than the awoiaf assets.
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>>163969515
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>when all the cucks get mad at your fort and crossbow
>when they start claiming they don't want you glorious merchant cities even though they're always camped out on the walls with their stupid dumb horseman scum and shitty little infantrymen

rhodoks are literally gods of the battlefield and everyone's jealous of the fact that their shitty horse can't survive a bolt to the face
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>>163969556
sure if you want to roleplay
you should set up whichever option gains you the most income/week, usually dyes or wine (i think)
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Can I get a link to the pretty females mod so I can make the women in 1257 not look fucking godawful
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Total Mount and Blade newfag here. I'm currently playing the original Dark Souls for the first time but I'm kinda trying to plan ahead a little bit while Steam's holiday sale is still going and these games are dirt fucking cheap. Anyway, should a new player start with the original, or Warband? I have a friend who tells me he preferred the original but I mostly see Warband talked about on 4chins.
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>>163971108
Warband is a standalone expansion of the original game. It's a straight improvement with more content and the only reason to play the original would be for the one or two mods it has that haven't been ported to Warband.
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>>163971108
warband
original is only good for mods that didn't get ported to warband that are still good, and the only one really is 1866
your friend is either an idiot or a retard
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>>163971108
Start with Warband with /mbg/'s very own Dickplomacy mod. It's the way the game was meant to be played.
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>>163971334
>>163971367
Cool thanks dudes. As for my friend, he said they did something with lances in Warband that fucked up his shit and he didn't care for it. But yeah I didn't realize they were the same shit. Will I need several dozen micro-packages of DLC for Warband to be complete like you do with all of Paradox's other games? I love CK2 and EU4 but they sure do get on my nerves with that.
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>>163971676
>As for my friend, he said they did something with lances in Warband that fucked up his shit and he didn't care for it.
probably got used to lance couching being automatic in original M&B and manual in warband, though there is an option to set it to automatic
it's better on manual anyway
>Will I need several dozen micro-packages of DLC for Warband to be complete like you do with all of Paradox's other games?
no because it isn't a paradox game
only DLCs are Viking Conquest and Napoleonic Wars anyway, the former being a historical mod with a dead MP that's worth getting and the latter being a MP only mod that isn't worth getting if you don't plan on playing MP
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>>163971676
>Will I need several dozen micro-packages of DLC for Warband to be complete like you do with all of Paradox's other games?
Recovering Paragoy, I see.
Both DLCs are optional. VC is an überautistic history mod and Napoleonic Wars is an MP mod for underage kiddies.
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>>163971879
It literally says Paradox Interactive on the cover, anon.
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>>163971990
He could be either of the other two members of the autism triumvirate. Both are currently getting assraped.
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>>163972071
Developed by Taleworlds, Published by Paradox.
That means they aren't going to try to jew you out of 100 dollars for the game to be playable, relax.
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>>163972071
they used to be published by paradox but they haven't been for years
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>>163972153
>>163972171
Ah, 10-4, thanks for clearing that up. Just bought Warband, then, for five digeridoos.
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>>163972391
Good for you, anon. Remember to join god's chosen people for your first playthrough.
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>>163970389
I never understood why people say that the crossbows aren't good at attacking or on the field, because they do seem really, really powerful compared to bows. They're not powerful enough in game though: they should be more powerful, and there should be bigger artillery crossbows/ballistae pulled by horses and operated by crews. Why modders haven't made bolt throwing field artillery is beyond me, how hard could it be for the good ones?
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>>163972391
just play native to start off with, be sure to turn on basic formations (steps in pastebin) since native commands by default are pretty barebones
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>>163972538
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SUFFER NOT THE ELF
MAKE ELF TWINKIES OUT OF THE NOLDOR
S O D O M Y
someguy2000's playthrough of PoP is GOAT
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>>163972634
Begone, sarranid.
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>>163972943
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>>163972943
>>163972667
It's fucking over, butterniggers. Feast on this.
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>>163973872
Are you playing on an actual toaster?
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>>163972667
>shilling
>for some random fag playing on native battlesize
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>>163973979
Yes, why?
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>>163974331
>93

sweating man.jpg
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>>163974183
>not playing on native battlesize
Fuck stuttering in battle I'll take small skirmishes over that.
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>>163974595
wew lad
even my 6y old shitty laptop could handle 250+
small skirmishes are babbymode autowins if you have any amount of elite troops.
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>>163974183
noldor pls leave
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>>163974595
actually what mainly causes stuttering is formations mods
on native you can run pretty high battlesizes because of the lack of anything like that
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>3 hour long siege
>last 40 minutes were me as a kurwa archer sniping mongols behind a invisible wall
that welsh demon story was fucking right
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>>163974331
Still better than some of the other anons' third world tier trashboxes i've seen around here.
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Has weeb adventure gotten any updates since the skeltal dude stopped working on it?
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>>163974331
>3.20GHz
Still better than
1.6GHz
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>>163978794
It's going to get an update the same week Phantasy Calradia gets updated.
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>>163971676
>Paradox
mountain blade isnt a pair of cocks game
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>>163936867
Such a good track. Reminds me of AoE2.
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>>163982382
>facing direction
thank fuck
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Is it possible to make it so that a castle or town can be besieged with either the ladders or the tower, rather than just the ladders of the tower?
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>>163984730
THE TOWER IS SUPERIOR
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WHERE THE FUCK IS THE TAIGA BANDIT LAIR REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>163985726
>get a contract to kill a group of bandits around ribe
>spend over 40 ingame days searching all over the fucking continent for them, eventually just slaughtering every group of bandits I come across
>some groups up into the hundreds
>still nothing
>give up and travel overseas
>they're on ANOTHER FUCKING CONTINENT
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
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>>163985313
It's slower though, both to make it and to use it in battle. Ideally there should be a better way to assault a castle than the tower, but the tower should stay as an option. There should also be more flat sieges in mods that don't take place on castle walls but rather behind the walls, where actual fighting can be had.
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>>163994737

Khergit special forces?
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/mbg/, what is best in life?
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>>163995779

To crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of the women.

That or Banner lord released before the end of the year.
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>>163995779
to actually finish working on a fucking mod reee
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>>163995779
The greatest joy for a man is to defeat his enemies, to drive them before him, to take from them all they possess, to see those they love in tears, to ride their horses, and to hold their wives and daughters in his arms.
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>>163995991
is that you amazonmod anon?
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>>163995779
The hope that things will get better, but they never do, never get worse either. Though I've been playing Prophesy of Pendor recently, so maybe I'm just used to nothing actually happening for long periods of time.
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>>163996474
no
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>>163996737
what are you working on upstab-kun?
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>>163996785
aside from the submods i need to update/1257 stuff i'm working on a dumb native mod i'll never finish
at least i got throwing knives to flip properly
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>>163996713
Poop triggers me.
Why are the Noldor such special snowflakes? I wish I could kill them all.
Was the Empire troop tree designed by a schizophrenic? Roman-style legionnaires, pikemen clad in plate, and armored crossbowmen. What the actual fuck is that supposed to be?
And don't tell me to read the fucking "lore." I don't care if it's explained, it's fucking stupid.
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>>163995991
I know that feel too well.
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>>163970389
>>fort and crossbow.
>gods of battlefield.
kek
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>>163997058
Noldor are special because they are elves from Tolkien's universe.
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>going though VC quick strings with winmerge to check for changes
>this is literally in the code
kek
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>>163997246
I still thirst for a knife-ear holocaust.
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>>163997601
Another fantasy mod was going to include it, but Gsanders stopped it.
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>>163997058
If we really, really wanted to we could go on for ages about inconsistencies and plain rubbish in Prophesy of Pendor. The funny thing is, if any of these things were fixed, and new features were added, Pendor might be a decent mod.
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>>163997896
Excuse you, can you stop insulting the masterpiece that Saxon's dead friend created????
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>>163997896
I know.
I've thought about this, and I'm pretty sure it's been talked about at length.
Fortunately the PooP team knows what's best for us, and as such does not allow anyone to publish modifications to their mod.
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should've just fixed all the issues with the VC submod, just uploaded it
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do you guys have any advice for starting out in VC? I'm really shit at it and my usual early game strategies don't seem to work.
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>>163999384
Friese sells jewelry and wine for fucking cheap. Go to Friese's capital, buy the jewelry and wine, and sell it basically fucking ANYWHERE and you'll get rich.
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I don't understand why L'Aigle exists, seriously. The only things the mod has to show are the graphics and sounds. Wouldn't it be much better to just use Napoleonic Wars base game instead, then? Why make a mod like this from scratch, even more so when you know shit about coding, are doing it alone and refuse any kind of help?
It's been 3 or 4 fucking years and the mod is barely playable. I just had a "Track down bandits" quest fail on me because another party killed them. The thing is, they were very well alive and right in front of me.
>arena fights don't work
>AI commands/PBOD doesn't work, which makes the mod useless without the line battles
>balance is terrible
>soldiers never hit anything, unless they are aiming at you, of course
>cavalry is OP since soldiers can't hit them with volley fire
>unless it's your or your allie's cavalry, then they just stay put or run around in circles when you tell them to charge

If someone can put the uniforms, firing effects (fire, smoke) and sounds from this mod on Napoleonic Wars then I'll drop this mod and never look back.
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>>163999384
I'm almost 500 ingame days into my VC save and I still only have one fief.
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>>164000035
I made my starting fortune on mead.
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>>164000762
>>arena fights don't work
last time i played there was a pugilism system that worked ok
ironically WFAS did it better since it disabled kicking so you couldn't cheese it
>>AI commands/PBOD doesn't work, which makes the mod useless without the line battles
funny thing is mods like that would make it worse for line battles, WFAS actually does line battles well even though it's set in the pike and shot era
>>soldiers never hit anything
the "blackpowder guns are incredibly inaccurate" meme is awful
>If someone can put the uniforms, firing effects (fire, smoke) and sounds from this mod on Napoleonic Wars
you could it'd just take a bit of time, and it'd still be MP only
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>>163948737
doom guy gonna slay
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>>164000936
The firing effects is what I'm not sure how to port. The rest I can do.

Is there any decent Napoleonic Era mod?
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>>164001151
there's some NW enhanced mod that does a similar thing but it isn't l'aigle assets
>Is there any decent Napoleonic Era mod?
none i'm aware of
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>>163948737

>26 elite XCOM operatives armed with flying suits, plasma weaponry and blaster launchers have to fight a Hakurei miko and her 130-strong army of youkai exterminators armed with flintlocks, spears and swords.
>Alternatively, they have to fight Boyar Alan of Reyvadin, a psychotic asshat hated by all Calradians, who is armed with a big fuck-off sword and a boner for murder. and his 75-strong army of Vaegir bastards, armed with various medieval weaponry.

XCOM would win due to the tech advantage, but may possibly lose a man to an incompetent move out of the Avenger on the first turn putting an operative within charging range of Hakurei, swinging her tachi around her horse in a bloodrage. Knowing my luck, probably the Major General.

Against the Boyar, perfect mission. 76 kills, zero losses.
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>>163948737

A regular rifleman from the game Squad, or a 1082 man warband in Perisno kept together through morale based witchcraft.

He doesn't have enough bullets.
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>>163933616
Mad civilized cuck lmao
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>>163948737
>Legend of Eisenwald vs 1257AD
A minor tech advantage and low fantasy magic doesn't account for the major discrepancy in warband sizes.

11 (max, Eisenwald) vs ~200 (minimum, 1257AD)

Eisenwald dude is going to get wrecked.
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>>163995997
Stop glorifying rape. Nigger.
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fuggin satan
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>There will never be a Conan the Barbarian mod

Civilization! Ancient and wicked. Have you ever seen this before?
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>>164004263
>When I was a fighting-man, the kettle-drums they beat
>The people scattered gold-dust before my horse's feet
>But now I am a great king, the people hound my track
>With poison in my wine-cup, and daggers at my back

I really hope Conan Exiles is decent.
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>>164000035
Holy shit, you weren't kidding.

Wine for only around 150 dollarydoos.
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>>164000905
Mead is alright, but jewelry and wine is the real money maker in Viking Conquest.

>>164005270
That can sometimes go for around 70 peningas or whatever the currency is in VC and come sometimes be sold for over 700 peningas. Enjoy your easy profits.
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>>164005415
Wine usually goes for something like 764 at first sale.
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>>164005619
Depends on location, and if you constantly use the same location over and over (like Ribe, for example), the price will drop to around 400-500, even if Ribe has no wine in their market.
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>>164005705
Yeah, that's what I meant about first sale. That's the price of the very first drop you make.
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>>163934249
>tfw just want a red headed Irish waifu
>but then my kids would be fucking irish
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>>164006585
would that be a problem, sassenach?
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>>163947645

I am stuck in Australia and there's no one good enough to fight most of the time. The game's nearly dead here :(
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>>163948737
the nigger german sniper from BF1

I don't think he even brought enough bullets, so we'll be fine
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>>163977945
yeah the spawn areas in sieges/villages are horrible.
if you play with ~300 or more battlesize they clip through god knows where.
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What the fuck is the difference between Sands of Faith and AD1257
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>Party Size 104
>10.8 movement speed
>Can run atop water
why don't we ride bulls rather than useless fuck horses
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>>164007838
Sands of Faith focuses entirely on the Holy Land, Egypt, and Anatolia.

1257AD includes more of North Africa and Europe.
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>>164007838
>what is the difference between perisno and floris
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>>164007995
what is the difference
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>>164008015
One doesn't allow Elf genocide because of Gsanders and the other doesn't have elf genocide because when they were adding every OSP they could find into the mod they missed the elf one.
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>>164007983
Oh, so the only difference is the map? Guess I can just play Floris then :)
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>>164008282
how hard is it to go on the forum page and read it
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>>164008282
Sure, have fun.
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>>164007838
>>164008282
are you retarded or just retarded
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>>164008358
t. mad

>>164008316
it's more fun to get interesting answers from my favourite general on /vg/ :)
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The only acceptable way to use vermin
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>>163966251

Pendor is easy as fuck. Pretty much every faction battle is an automatic win because no faction fields any decent number of knighthood order troops. As soon as you get any knights yourself the enemy factions evaporate.

No, the unique spawns aren't hard either. After the first wave literally all of them are just groups of trash units.
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>>164008687
>Needing Knighthood Order troops
go away swad.. I mean sarleon
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>>164008757

Meh, I went pendor culture, and peasant pendor culture is shit. But the same shit applies if you just get kierguards, rangers, berserkers, armoured crossbowmen, hero adventurers, scorpion assassins, pendor bladesmen, Mettenheim troops or a few other decent troop types.
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>>164008757
>not using knighthood orders
may as well use one of the only unique features to the mod
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>>164000035
that worked great, thanks anon.
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>>163948737
>Kholek Suneater
Well, that was a good run
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>>164008687
>As soon as you get any knights yourself the enemy factions evaporate.
this
even with 400 battle size, when you get 150+ good troops every single battle becomes a "everyone charge" autowin.
only way you can lose at that point is fighting 100v1000 , or going full infantry on open field vs horse archers with significantly less units than them.
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>>163992762
mod?
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>finally buy Stronghold and AoE2
>find out I'll probably love the Total War games as well
>planning on buying CK2
>still haven't tried Sands of Faith, Swedish Mayo, ACOK, VC and Caribbean
fuck
am I entering the golden age of gaming?
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>>164010312

That's viking conquest.
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>>164010991
are you 12 years old?
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>>164010991
you are
2010+ was a mistake
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>>164011150
>projecting
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>>164010991
>CK2
Have fun. CK2 is my #2 after Warband.
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>>164010991
>>164012158
how do I get into CK2? it seems so daunting, I don't really want to read a bunch of guides
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>>164012565
Just play it, you'll either get used to it or you'll never be able to grasp the basic concepts.
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>>164012565
Play the tutorial?

I'm sure there is a video guide on youtube or you know just the play the game and learn as you go. If it is sonething Paradox gets right it is the tool-tips.
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>>163947020
This is why we need bannerlord now more than ever, or a completed l'Aigle.
Which will come out first lads?
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>>164012736
>>164012732
another question, I know that everyone says to just pirate the DLC, but does that actually work? is there a risk of steam just banning me for it?

even on a sale it costs 66 bongs to buy all the dlc
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>>163948737
Enforcer from Risk of Rain with 15 barbed wire and other stacks vs. My day 1 barbie doll from l'aigle who I used cheats to give a fancy uniform

Willem Prendergast is fucked
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>>164013278
No idea I bought the DLC that interested me.
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>>164013606
there are literally 66 pieces of dlc, fug, I guess I'll have to look through them to pick one by one, its hard to choose when you haven't played the game yet, I guess I'll just pick whatever seems to add real content
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>>164013887
Just pirate that shit
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>>164013980
you mean the whole game? ok, apparently gsg has links I'll go check it out
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>>164013887
just pirate the skidrow one with all dlc and buy the game if you like it and buy the dlc's you deem worthy afterwards.
or are you steam achievementwhoring or something?
also no, steam has no way to detect your pirated dlc.
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>Dec 29
>still no Bannerlord in any shape or form
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>>163933386
>he fell for the "vikings didn't use horses" meme
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I sure hope we'll be able to launch rotten cows with a catapult in Bannerlord during sieges
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>>164012565

Watch some LPs on Youtube
Play as Ireland since its pretty much easymode

Arumba if you want to go full autism
Quill18 is also nice to watch
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>>164011812
>just discovered Total War, CK2, AoE2, and Stronghold
>hurr projecting
end yourself lad
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Hey guys, I've got some coding experience and I've been wanting to make some mods for M&B for a while now. Any ideas on how to start? I'd really like to make my own version of Dickplomacy. Is there any way i'd be able to edit the files?
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>>164018267
I would tell you to wait for Bannerlord but I'm not sure if it's ever going to come out.
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>>164015121
the ginge said that was less likely when someone asked him.
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>join swadia
>harlaus declares war on the nords, rhodoks and khergits
>all I have is 30 sergeants and 30 sharpshooters
t-thank you butterfaggot, but I think you need to go.
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>>164019326
>30 sergeants and 30 sharpshooters
>not 30 knights and mamelukes
do you even hammer and hammer, you looter?
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>>164019750
I'm playing discount rhodoks.
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the fact that in dickplomacy the battle is over the moment most of the enemy force routs is so good, I am playing VC and having to wait until all the enemies have fled, or are chased by the handful of pony riders I have is a fucking pain
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>>163998053
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,359788.0.html
I don't know how this one hasn't been shut down yet, but they definitely know it's an improvement and are going about implementing it(read: taking it for themselves). Certainly there's a limit to how much you can fix the damn thing, so it'll always be bad, just slightly less bad than before.
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>>164020332
I could easily end the battle when people are routing in VC though
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>>164020889
it counts it as a retreat and not a victory
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>>164021080
No. But it has to have everyone routing, not some faggot still throwing javelins at you.
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>>164021142
fuck, I guess I had missed one, I thought they were all running, but it ended up counting it as a retreat to me
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>>164021630
Also sometimes they're not even retreating but just backing off to create distance to shoot at you, but it may look as if they're retreating.

>tfw one-shooting picts with my sword and destroying the fucking Albion
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>1257
>equip bow
>shoot nigger
>0 dmg
>0 dmg
>4 dmg
>0 fucking dmg
A better experience than the 50% HP damage arrows in native i suppose.
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>>164019104
He said what was less likely?
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>>163933386
Git gud using polearms then or go play chivalry
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>>164021750
>not using javelins

For what purpose
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>>163947973
>>163947645
>>164006898
>>163948192

Napoleonic Wars MP is great and has lots of players. Didn't test the singleplayer tough,
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>>164022007
I'd use them if my aim wasn't absolute dogshit and if i knew how to reset skills jesus christ power draw was a mistake
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>>164022454
>he tried to make a bowman in 1257 AD
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>>164021750
>1 power draw

Look at this milksop.
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>>164022454
To be fair power draw/throw only starts being really good once you go high in it, otherwise it may just be a fun thing to do once in a while.

Then again, my aim for javelins is also shit but with high power draw the aiming is better. And very often I do fuckhueg dmg with each throw.
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>>164022535
its actually entirely possible, you just need power draw >5 and you can fuck shit up, most troops wear shit tier gambesons and you can drop them left and right
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>>164022535
Bows are OP as fuck in 1257AD once you get high power draw
>oneshots dudes
>breaks shields in 2 shots
>bullet like speed
>laser accurate
the better question is, why would anyone ever use crossbows
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>>164022710
>>164023753
>>164024125
What's a good bow for it then? I remember that one story with the welsh bowman that murdered everyone, are their longbows the best?
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at last
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>>164024251
cuck
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>>164024251
>putting whores on the throne
At least you're a sandnigger, good riddance.
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>>164024251
cuck
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>>164024251
go git 'm
>>164024315
>>164024336
I plan to ditch her after raking in the cash from my 2 cities and 8 or so settlements, taking my land with me to become king instead
jewish money making scheme basically to get rich easy from the muzzies
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>>164024251
>not becoming the Sultan yourself
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>your relation with sultan hakim has increased from -7 to -2

i'm surprised he's okay with this
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>>164024432
>random nordcucks wandering over to take my sandcastle
fuck off
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>>164024969
>Rhodoks and Nords together
They must really hate you.
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>>164024969
now to celebrate my hard earned victory with a tournament
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1st person or 3rd person?
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>>164025186
I am at war with literally everyone except the khergits, so the only troops I can get is khergits since pretty much all of the sarranid lands are perma looted
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>>164025282
Depends what I'm using and what I'm doing, if I'm sieging I like to go first person, same with ranged and lancing, third person is superior though especially with 2h and polearms, and is pretty much required in MP
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>>164000762
Now this: there is no prison door in most cities.
I spent half an hour checking every single door on every single building and there is NO FUCKING PRISON DOOR.
If someone doxes docm I swear I'll kill that faggot no matter where he is in the world because I'm never getting that half hour back.
The retard had the gal to spend 4 FUCKING YEARS making this absolute joke of a mod and he couldn't be assed to put the prison doors in? Or even test his own mod for 5 mins for god's sake.
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/fa/ as fuck
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Rhodoks: The Manga Ookami no Kuchi: Wolfsmund finally had its last chapters uploaded.
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>no more (You)'s

well /embeegee/ what will you are first weapon in bannerman be?
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>>164027308
Just use 4chan X.
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@164027308
>no more (You)s
>still begs for (You)s like a thirsty faggot
Neck yourself, pham.
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>>164027616
>@164027308
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>>164027868
I'm not sure if this is clever bait or your IQ is below 140
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What do most modders use to make the overworld map in their mods?
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>>163982382
>>163984203

>facing
>spacing
>pacing

hnnnnnnnnnnggg
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Why aren't mounted crossbowmen popular?
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>No news
>No blogposts
>No good new mods coming out since everyone is waiting for Bannerlord

Taleworlds truly have forsaken us
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>>164031039
Hey at least the ginge stopped sucking dick for 30 minutes and coded invasion mode for us!
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>>164030878
large crossbows cant be reloaded on horseback

mounted troops tend to be higher leveled, so some points can go into power draw instead of athletics
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>bannerload hasn't even came out yet mods are being made for it

http://www.moddb.com/mods/bannerlord-realistic-mod
http://www.moddb.com/mods/mount-blade-ll-fire-in-the-steppe
http://www.moddb.com/mods/ghal-maraz
http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-witcher-the-war-of-margim
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>>164016501
>just discovered
nobody said that.
what's the matter with you, kid? are you American or something?
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>>164021806
less likely for the game to be released in some shape or form this year. and no new "likely date". so bannerlord never ever ;_;
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>>164027868
>>164028057
it's probably just Aspergers, they don't understand irony
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>>164031498

>Idea guys
kek, you should have your shit removed if you have nothing to do show

>Those two actual modelers
>What they think
>Hey we can start making the assets ahead of time
>Reality
>Oh no nothing fits with the base game and now the vanilla assets clash and our troops make no sense
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>>164031039
>No good new mods coming out since everyone is waiting for Bannerlord
they announced bannerlord to early, all the modders dropped warband, because they kept thinking that new game was just around the corner
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>>164033684
Game is being pushed back :/
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>>164031039
What do you mean anon? Prophesy of Pendor 3.8 is coming out and it will have so much more perfect lore. SaxonDragon is truly the best developer of any mod ever.
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>>164034885
N-no
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>>164033168
at least our favourite memer has a mod

http://www.moddb.com/mods/end-him-rightly
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Release date when.
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>>164036842
never
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>>164036919
But I have cancer. I don't have long left.
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>>164036958
Now you have cancer AND the knowledge that bannerlord isn't going to come out.
You will be remembered as one of many anons that died along the way.
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>>164022346
>Napoleonic Wars MP is great
it gets old fast fighting an entire server that doesn't know how to manual block, but yeah it can be fun for a bit
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>>164037990
only fun if youre a sapper and make the server laggy as fuck for everyone
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Warsword conquest is a really annoying mod to play, probably more so than any other I played.

It's a pain in the arse, but the entire mod is balanced around ward-save and dodge, which is implemented in the most retarded way possible. If a unit dodges, or rolls a ward save, it will take 0 damage from your attack, and the attack it is currently doing will not be interrupted. This completely fucks up combat with any troop that has this modifier, as interupting attacks becomes relegated to a dice roll.

Regardless, in the late game this is a pain in the fucking arse. It's like the maker of the mod doesn't even understand how combat in mount and blade works. I am going to finish the mod anyway though.
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Nords are literally the best faction
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in nomine patris, aaaamen~
in nomine patris, aaaamen~
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>>164039802
No crossbows, they're shit.
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>>164039802
Maybe high-tier units of those factions without horses like Nords or Rhodoks do rek anything, but what about early game? Bandits on horses bully me hard.
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>go crusading in the baltic because how tough can a bunch of knuckle dragging pagans be lmao
>entire teutonic army gets turned into a fucking pincushion

some of these fucking niggers just have three sets of javelins and a shield with no side arm wtf
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>>164040052
>voices in soundtrack
no, just no, after so many hours this shit is burned into your mind pretty much forever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpuH6ij_MQk&hd=1
ffs
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>>164040305
stop going in khergit and sarranid land then
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>>164040305
>bandits on horses
Why the fuck would you do early game shit on Sarranid/Khergit land?
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>>164040305
You need more crossbows.
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>>164040370
>mfw sieging a baltic fort the first time
5 seconds after loading the battle my shield was shattered
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>>164040305
If you want to level and make money easily in the early game, get a fast horse, a flanged mace or rhodok warhammer and snag taiga bandits. They ransom for almost as much as sea raiders and are super easy to defeat

I like to farm sea raiders for equipment for my companions after that
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>>164041230
Don't listen to this fag. Watch this video and you'll learn how to make it big in almost any mod for Mount and Blade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa182cCzzCI
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>>164041508
>raiding villages
golly gee I sure love losing honor and making almost every lord hate me before even meeting him
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>>164041065
Just grab a shield off the nearest corpse, it's fine.
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>>164037058
>torturing canceranons
Not white
Not based
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>>164041670
then just raid villages of a faction you dont like, sarranids for example
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>>163948737
This is a hard one:
The full might of the Qing Empire VS a Warband of 120+ Norse Warriors.
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>ITT
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>>164041793
You lose honor anyway. Some lords hate that shit and they'll always hate you
besides raiding doesn't level your shit up
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>finally catch up to that faggot who keeps burning your village down
>Lord Fuckface managed to escape!

You son of a bitch
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>>164041795
>The full might of the Qing Empire
The Qing would literally just breed the nords out of existence.
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>>164041795
the Qing could literally wall in 120 warriors with bodies so they'd starve to death
brutal
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>>164041670
No, those are the worst Swadians, the Swadians without crossbows raiding Glunmar, the villagers are very brave, but they forgot their crossbows. You're supposed to save them with your army exclusively composed of mercenary crossbowmen, Rhodok and Swadian sharpshooters. When it comes to pin-cushioning units from afar, accept no substitute.
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>>164042023
>>164042136
Not a gook enthusiast here, are the Chinese post-Cow Cow really this dumb/brutal?
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>>164042370
Perhaps.
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>>164042935
What's that in your character's hand, anon? Looks like a bow to me.
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>>164042782
>post-Cow Cow
Wow, just made some research and it's really fucking post-Cao Cao, 1400 years later. I'm really not a chinese enthusiast, don't know shit about them.
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>>164043326
A rare and expensive crossbow with an invisible piece of wood. Fools everyone.
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>>164026560
>literally mountain jews: the manga
mein neger
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>>164044228
Anon, I don't think the Swiss or the Genoese were Mountain Jews.
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How exactly do the piety items in Nova Aetas Work?
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>>164042782
It's not about being dumb. The Manchu literally don't exist anymore and their language is basically extinct. When you physically and militarily invade China (successfully) the Chinese will literally breed you out of existence and melt your culture. They don't suffer from the former see, because Chinese isn't an ethnicity.

>really this brutal
The harshest Imperial Chinese punishment by law is called the Extinction of the Nine Clans. The way it works is that someone has done something really fucking bad, for example, slept with the Imperial Princess or risen in revolt. If the Emperor were so inclined, he could order that punishment (there's limits to when you can actually use this). The punishment entails tracking down all your relatives to within nine degrees of seperation and killing them all, then killing you.
Also, whenever certain steppe tribes, whether from the mongolian or from the turkic steppes, started getting too annoying to withstand, they'd literally just walk in and kill everyone. "Everyone" generally entailed numbers on the order of one hundred thousand.
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I've been browsing the bannerlord discussion on steam it truly is a remarkable place reaching peak autism levels never seen before, how can /mbg/ compete?
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>>164044656
the Genoese wasn't but the swiss definitely was.
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>>164045562
The Swiss peasants or the royalty? Because the Rhodoks are based upon, among other things, Swiss peasant rebels like William Tell.
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I think I broke something
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>>164046039
there were no peasants in switzerland, only craftsman, bankers & some nobility scattered around.
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I just bought Viking Conquest.
Any hot tips?
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>>164010991
Just remember TW gets progressively worse as the series goes on and caters to larger audiences.
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>>164036958
are you THE cancer anon, or are you meming?
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>>164047734
Refund.
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>>164047734
recently started playing it myself, its pretty fun, just be careful because EVERYONE has javelins
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>>164047734
>refund VC
>download floris
>play game its meant to be played
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>>164048687
>floris
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>>164048687
I think you mean Prophesy of Pendor probably too hard for you tho you nub XDDD WHAT UP REFORMERS XDDD.
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>>164047734
SHIELD WAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL
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>>164011069
is there beheading in vc?
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>>164041917
you don't lose honour if you raid while being in the opposing faction, literally go as a mercenary, raid shit and once you have enough money leave the faction you're being a merc for and live your life happily

fucking hell
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Man, swadian crossbows do suck major fucking ass.
Dumb goyim can't aim for shit, smdh.
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>>164050031
Yes.
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>>164050031
More or less
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>Have a big army of huscarls and vaegir archers
>Go against khergits, thinking we got this easy
>They have a shitload of lancers
>Huscarls getting lanced left right and center
>Lose 1 huscarl to their 3 troops
>It still sucks
I swear it takes me forever to get a sizable army but the AI breeds them like rabbits
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>>164050709
khergits are a fucking pain to fight. lancers suck dick in an actual fight but they'll always wound or kill a dude with the lance
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>>164050996
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>>164050184
Because you've got a bunch of useless infantry in front of them, blocking their view.
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>>164050889
Yeah they take forever to all chase down when you're all on foot and they get to your archers super easily.
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>>164050996
see ya new years.
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>>164050996
wow you really exceeded yourself
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>>164050702
prkl
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>>164050996
well okay
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Never looked anything up online and this is usually the formation I take when fighting in a field. Try to use a height advantage if I can but not many hills where I usually fight.

I usually run my cavalry in one once their forces hit my infantry and it works pretty well, but is there anything better? I offset my archers to the left (their right) since the enemy hold their shields in their left hands and they can shoot around it easier.

also r8 my paint skills
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>>164049215
isn't that guy shit at warband anyway
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>>164050996
>The ejaculate volume should be 25 to 100 milliliters, but may be as great as 300 milliliters
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>>164041984
>not using tweakMB and setting escape ratio to zero
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>>164051581
I fixed it for you

t. Harlaus
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>>164050996
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>>164050184
>native crossbows
nords have a better aim with their throwing weapons lmao
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>>164051581
>infantry
>not using spearmen with javeling

lmao 0shield
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>>164051581
Yes.
Position your archers at the left flank, with your cavalry in front of your infantry at the front.
Your battleplan should be as follows:
-Your cavalry is sturdier than your infantry, therefore they should stay at the front of your infantry, tanking the enemy charge.
-After the enemy makes contact with your cavalry your infantry must be ordered to charge, as they will be joined with your now forcefully dismounted cavalry and engage the enemy in hand to hand combat.
-While all of this is happening, your archers should be advancing past the enemy until they are directly behind them, where the enemy are most vulnerable because their shields only protect the front.
-This usually kills the opposing army.
Trust me on this, I'm a /his/ military tactics expert.
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>>164051930
? native crossbows have 99 accuracy
problem's more with proficiencies/stats on troops being so low in native
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>>164052005
By infantry I just mean any unit on foot. I have spearmen, huscarls, infantry, etc.

>>164051879
fuck that guy, I love lancing him at his shitty tournaments though
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fuuuuuuuuck, who is the genius in the VC team who thought to add give 3000k gold to companion in the first screen was a good idea, I just wanted to give him different gear

fuuck
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>>164052093
yeah l meant native crossbowmen, try shooting a siege crossbow with 150 prof. in crossbows and you'll see how bad it is
"sharpshooters"
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>>164052035
Usually I fight forces larger than mine, wouldn't the archers get torn apart while trying to get behind them?
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>>164052035
w-what am l even reading

why must you be like this mbg ;_;
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>>164052431
The enemy will usually be too dumb to switch targets to your archers, and even if they do that's where you come in to act as a decoy with your horse.
Here is a graphic representation of this extremely effective /mbg/ tactic.
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>>164050889
I killed off the entire vaegir faction with 200 lancers and ended my campaign with 124 left, AMA
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>>164052374
spread's pretty tight even then, and this was with 30 proficiency
if anything they'd only be inaccurate because they're so accurate: AI only aims at the head of the enemy, which means with vanilla crossbows they may hit way less since they're aiming at the same place with no spread
in a lot of mods crossbows don't have perfect base accuracy, which means they have a better chance of hitting certain targets due to that spread
for example it's completely impossible for vanilla crossbows/bows to hit a character who is crouching, since the AI aims for where they would be standing and doesn't take into account the crouching
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>>164052260
can you please tell me how did you amass 3 million pennings?
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>>164052675
Ah, the nailgun and hammer-anvil tactic, i see.
>>
>mbg and their very special strategies
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>>164051690
>>164051357
>>164051313
>>164051304
>>164051117
what did they say
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>>164052663
You should play some Total War, anon. It really gives you an expanded perspective on military tactics.
>>164052860
Indeed, my friend.
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>>164052921
hit the road jack
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this is the only tactic 2bh
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>>164052675
What do you do about the archers standing behind their group?
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>>164052921
just a little horsing around
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>>164053054
You shoot them from behind with your own archers, of course.
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>>164047734
Tell your units to hold fire at the start of battle so they don't waste their javs, stopping twenty feet in front of the enemy shieldwall and ordering a big roman pila toss is a great way to make sure you win the charge every time.

The AI will always waste their javs at max range so have a small, separate trash unit of peasants spread out 3x and walk slowly into their jav range to absorb most of their volley.

Then march your shieldwall up slow, fire at will, stand closer x1, advance into the enemy wall, and order charge.
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>>164052780
>playing on 1/2 damage taken
lmao
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>>164052921
pic of a woman sucking a horsecock with her mouth full of the horse's cum

>>164052956
bruh you don't even use the cavalry's charge momentum how the fuck do you expect to win the battle
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>>164053123
>how the fuck do you expect to win the battle
With superior tactics.
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Who should I use besides rhodoks, swadians, and vaegirs? I've beat it with those 3. I kind of want to go sarranids but their archers seem so shit.
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>>164053104
using rows may be more effective than formations since you don't have to reform after a charge, just tell them to hold and they'll go back into their rows
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>>164053432
Khergits
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>>164053432
khergits and listen to throat singing everytime you play
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>>164053492
Really? They seem really bad in a siege and it frustrates me that you can't tell your horse archers to circle enemies and fire at them.
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>>164053583
play dickplomacy
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>>164053703
????????
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>>164053896
dickplomacy uses the same formation AI as 1257 which includes horse archers circling the enemy when you tell them to charge
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>Playing floris
>All the troops are named retarded shit
>Idk what I'm upgrading to
>End up with a bunch of random horse archers and shit
fuck this mods tbqh. Any other good mods?
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>>164052675
>>164051879
You guys don't know shit about tactics, here's the real deal.
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>>164053250
You call this a superior tactic ?
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>>164054173
>Infantry, cavalry and archers charging at the same time
This is how you Vaegirs.
>>
does playing as a woman in VC change anything?
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>>163998271
Welp, thanks for that, it doesn't crash, animations work, but my game must be autistic, cause dialogue just stopped working. When I tried to speak with a lord, there was a red error, something like "cant_find_script:lord_as_suitor", he started the dialogue with "The Chronicler said that you're prophesied to capture all the cities of the North", and instead of using my nick, he used random strings, like for example "What is it, You need to bash few more heads in before I let you recruit on my lands?".Ofc, all this happened on a new save, started with the submod

I feel bad for reporting all those bugs, sorry :<
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>>164054108
You got a video of this in action?
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>>164047734
Just bough Viking Conquest too. Already having way more fun with the storyline than I ever did with vanilla. Unit commands still suck, though.

I-Is something wrong with me, /mbg/?
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Here's a good video displaying the sorts of tactics you should use. Excuse the German autist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZPjiS0lgw
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>>164054568
try using the original conversations or quick strings till you get a proper response
shouldn't feel bad for telling me shit is wrong, if it's wrong it needs to be fixed, i wouldn't know otherwise
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>>164054889
Ok, will try with either of those and report back soon
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>>164054827
Just do as that other anon says about telling your spearmen to hold fire, be a bit narrower and put them in a shield wall.

Don't forget to get your power throw to 10 for maximu memetic javelin force
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>playing VC
>do the train peasants and kill bandit quest
>don't feel like fighting in the water as usual with this mod
>get them to hold position behind the village
>turn around
>they all fucking retreated
>lose 30 morale and the village hates me then it explodes
fuck this stupid fucking mod.
btw have any of you had any luck playing from scratch at level 1? this mod is the equivalent of trying to sell real estate in Detroit
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>>164055205
might be better to start with story since the first bit basically starts you off as the events lead to you getting a ship
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>>164055205
Story mode, or easier settings. VC has very customizable difficulty. If you really want to go from level 1 sandbox mode, you are going to have to actually work like a peasant and do some really un-fun poorfag shit to get off the ground
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>>164055295
yeah, i expected story mode was less stupid.
I tried the royal sandbox mode and you don't even get a single ship, not to mention pleb-tier income, and shitty troops (as a KING)
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>>164050709
>fighting cavalry in a plain field
You asked for it
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>>164055810
suspected*
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>>164054889
Ok, tried it without conversations, and now it all seems to work perfectly. Animations are correct, no red errors when speaking with anyone, new weapons are in(Just the icon for secondary mode of those TwoHanded/TwoHanded axes is wonky, but except for that, they work flawlessly)
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>>164046039
>The Swiss peasants or the royalty?
>royalty
>Swiss
They got the axe Fairly quickly.
We got a shitload of protestant families that were exiled nobles.
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>>164054889
Still the same guy, is it fine to start a new game without that file, or should I wait for you to fix that before starting anything serious?
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>>164056086
Sorry, meant nobility.
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>>164055962
must be the wrong conversations file
>Just the icon for secondary mode of those TwoHanded/TwoHanded axes is wonky
yeah it was intentional to signify swapping to secondary mode, if i set it to what it is by default then it's just the weapon mesh so i need to find something to better signify that i think
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>>164055050
Will do, anon. Thanks.

If you've played through the whole VC storyline, could you tell me about how long it takes?
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>>164033168
Tbh with a LOTR mod or a Rome one they would have to do an entire new batch of assets so it's not that big of a deal.
Scale, clipping and animation issues are something else
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>>164056472
Depends. It can take a while to gather your army to not be fucked by certain battles and one forced naval battle can take you a few tries because it tends to bug out quite a lot. Not entirely sure how long it took me, but around 100+ in-game days. Good thing you can go into sandbox mode right after that.
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>>164056750
Yeah, for sure. I'm having a lot of fun with it so far, looking forward to seeing how it goes.
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>>164030878
In a 16th century setting, sure.
See "Cranequiniers"
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>>164033168
>>164056569
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,357303.0.html
tfw it gets cancelled before they even announce release date
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>>164056862
there's even a suitable reload but no model to go with it
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>>164055810
I wouldn't expect many high tier troops in VC, even kings with armies of 6-800 only have 50-80 noble/veteran level troops. Most of the fighting is done by levies and army regulars.
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>>164056856
It's surprisingly good and has a lot of aspects I missed from the base game, really. Economy is rather good too, you don't see slightly less gay sword for 30k shekels, and probably the most expensive things are horses, which is reasonable.

Not sure how the storyline ends if you betray the Danes though.
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submod just got updated again and should now be OK
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>>164057205
do heads really just bounce off like that irl
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>>164057371
yes i am isis i have seen this
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>>164005415
>jewelry and wine is the real money maker in Viking Conquest.
>not just making money by distributing litteral salt at 250+ while buying it at 30-60
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>>164057371
yes
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Has there ever been a mod with dungeons? Not like the bandit camps you find, but actual dungeons with hallways, passages, corridors, traps and treasures? The closest thing I can think of is the ruins and jungles in Nova Aetas, and they're a bit rubbish.
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>>164057907
There are a few in brytenwalda
no traps tho
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>>164057054
I found myself actually caring about my companions! Something of a shock after vanilla. And I like that there's some austerity to it, so I actually have to work a bit and appreciate good gear.

I'm just about to go to the prisoner exchange to get my mother back.
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>>164057907
CoMM, brytenwalda/VC
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>>164057907
Off the top of my head only CoMM and VC come to mind.
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>>164057907
There was that mod that tried to make warband into a regular RPG
Light & Darkness was the name IIRC. I may be wrong tho
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>>164058051
>>164058290
>>164058353
Never actually played much Brytenwalda or VC. What are the dungeons like in both? How complex are they?
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>>164057205
Cheers, now everything works perfectly :>
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>>164058637
they're each unique scenes with decent length
in story mode for VC some are story related, they're mainly the same scenes
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>>164056256
Idem. I think one noble family stayed Fail late in Kaftan Bern but then became regular burgers
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>>164058637
Not that complex, this is still mount and blade no matter what you do to it
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>>164058176
All I can say about the storyline is - trust nobody.

Also I put all my companions in shieldwall as spearmen, gave them javelins, good armor, an axe and a spear. They're not so useless after all
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>win tournament at Elbing
>wait some time
>another tournament
>wait some more
>another
>this doesn't happen anywhere else
This is borderline cheating. At least the hobo phase is over.
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>>164059257
I'll keep that in mind. I just got spanked by Sven's brother, so I guess I'll need to do some troop upgrading, which is slow as balls.
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is it worth accepting marshalship friends, should l lead the jews to victory
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>>164060247
Yes.
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>>164060247
Get ready for that tasty controversy.
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>>164059871
Did you set the troop leveling to normal? If you do, training them takes a ridiculous amount of time.
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>>164061479
Yeah, I did. I wanted to go with the designed experience, and I guess I don't mind... but since I'm limited to 30 troops for that encounter I'm gonna have to get creative.
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>>164061867
make sure you move all your best men up in the list
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>>164061867
I played like that for a while but it got so fucking tedious and losing even one elite spearman made me mad as fuck I switched it to beginner and now having more fun than ever.
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>>164050702
>svenskefaen
>den grafikken
cuck
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>>164062031
Will do.
>>164062047
I may do the same. I enjoy the austerity of the game, but I really don't want it to get to the point that it's frustrating.
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>>164062231
Håll käft norrbagge
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>trying to raise money for a fifth oak busse but good mercenaries keep visiting your mead halls

When this ship gets ordered and finished my fleet will hold 528 warriors, enough to sail into the port city of Aileach by night and take it by storm. We're at peace with all kings now, money flows through Dublin and my 3 lords have respectable forces built up, bandit patrol is getting a little old, but I'm okay with building up a war chest and letting one of these Irish kings make the first move.

>>164061867
>>164059871
Pull your troops behind the walls of the farm for that encounter, also for a non-lord who isn't running armies of 100+, mercs are cheaper and more efficient than faction troops. Don't pay for a t2 levied "soldier" who isn't going to survive first contact, get the svear warrior who pays for himself week after week.
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>>164062047
yup
90% of "immersive" difficulty settings are pure bullshit that waste your time.
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>>164062430
Greit :^) Hils Mohammed fra meg!
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>>164062436
the fuck is this
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>>164062361
That's exactly the reason I switched it. Early on you may not feel it but when you're up against some fagboys with 100 men, some of them elite, you will feel it.

>>164062528
Basically all of that immersive difficulty shit is more tedious than fun, no point in turning it on at all.
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Why are all the popular mods such utter shit?
>PoP
>endless tedium and boredom
>Nova Aetas
>endless tedium and boredom but you think it'll get exciting but it never does
>Floris
>Floris
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>>164063034
you've only played those three mods and people call them shit all the time
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>>164063034
have you considered that maybe it's just mountainblade
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>>164063034
Nova Aetas is a popular mod?
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>>164045431
Asians are sociopaths.
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>>164063173
ribbit module hall of fame
Prophesy of Pendor
A Clash of Kings
Gekokujo
Nova Aetas
Floris
Anno Domini 1257
L'Aigle
Floris Evolved
Perisno
Brytenwalda
some of these are good, but rebbit's odd attraction to gaudy fantasy shit is sickening
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>>164063496
>Nova Aetas over AD1257
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>>164063623
>anything over 1257
smdh
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>>164063034
>floris is bad
more like
>mbg posted about floris for so long that they got bored and now are calling floris shit
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>>164063116
Played quite a bit more though. Those are the only 3 that I've played at all recently.
>>164063496
>some
Literally only three though, Gekokujo, 1257 and Brytenwalda. The rest are either absolutely generic, or shit.
>>164063816
Floris really isn't fun. I've heard Silverstag is better, but I haven't tried it. I prefer Native Expansion to be quite honest.
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>>164064235
PoP at least has some unique features to it though, the knightly orders would be great in a different mod
>geko
>not incredibly generic
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>>164062436
Thanks for the advice. I've got about 40 T2 troops plus companions right now, so maybe I'll scour Danmark for some mercs before heading back to Ulf's Farm and trying the tactic you suggested.
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>connachta and laigin were in an alliance to defeat me just a month ago

Odin bless the debauched lords, it's time to go full divide and conquer
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>>164064392
How is geko generic? All the dialogue is rewritten, the entire setting an dmap is different, there's ashigari and samurai troops, capturable neutral things, firearms
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>>164064392
The knight orders isn't good though. From what I understand they're just elite troops that you have to have an absurdly high amount of renown to recruit, and the custom ones are just customizable troops, something that a couple of other mods have. I've never gotten into a knighthood or even interacted with them beyond taking one or two bounty quests from them, because I've always been bored to death by the time I even get close to enough renown.
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What's the main menu song in anon's modded 1257 AD?
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>>164065046
he probably means le different colored spear man or sword man meme
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>>164065157
*knight orders system
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>>164064392
Gekokujo.'s unique feature is having sieges that aren't a fucking torture.
Can't argue against that. More so if compare it with "two ladders instead of one is disrespect of the original work LOTR fanfiction donut steel"
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>>164065162
it's not a meme if it's true
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>>164065519
Memes define reality
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>>164065467
>he wants more than 1 ladder on a siege
reread the lore... all of it
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>>164065160
it was unused in the mod, it's part of the album portals of grace apparently
>>164065157
meant more for the troop customization really, few enough mods have a system in place for it
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aesthetics or 1 bonus body armor /mbg/ ?
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>>164066627
1 armor isn't worth being ugly
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>>164066730
this anon knows the way, the truth, and the life
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>raid connachta caravan to break up Laigin and Connachta
>You're trespassing on the lands of the Laigin! Prepare to be punished... by the Laigin! We're Laigin soldiers! ...Laigin! Did you get that? I hope you got that we're Laigin.
>You have lost -5 relation with kingdom of Connachta. You have angered them.
>Kingdom of Ireland is at war with Kingdom of Connachta. The fighting has begun relatively recently.
>the fuckers are beelining toward my lands already, 900+ strong
>visit their king in Cruaghan
>he doesn't see it as being in his best interest to pursue peace
>check diplomacy notes
>Kingdom of Connachta was recently provoked by Kingdom of Laigin, there is basically zero chance they'll actually go to war though because fuck you, sucker
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>>164065160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMrmnB2LjjM
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>>164066730
>>164066774
thanks anon, the armor was very ugly so l kept the one l had on myself
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>>164064557
Why are the armors so different in your game?
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Can someone tell me why when I kill a whole platoon of bandits in a village, they still loot the village and get away from me?
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>>164065160
actually this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1cy1MNmaEo
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>>164066969
I'm using Dark Age submod, it overhauls item balance and replaces textures, I'm liking it.
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>>164067282
i must have an older verison or something because mine is this >>164066906
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>>164067226
usually it goes like this :
>bandits infest the village
>player helps village and chases bandits away

or

>bandits infests village
>player loses to bandits
>village is pillaged

or

>village is infested with bandits
>hero doesnt do anything
>bandit infestation goes away after a while
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>>164063496
Nova Aetas is a bit fine. It just needs a fix for game breaking bugs.
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Is Medieval Conquest any good?
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>>164070536
no it's 1257 but full of stupid shit
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>>164070604
Please elaborate. What stupid shit does it add?
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>>164070921
would like to know too, was about to try it
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So after i finally beat Pendor(took me months because of how hard it was) I decided to try 1257 immediately turned it off and switched to floris haven't looked back but need help im struggling need floris tips ASAP, my army keeps getting mucked, of course I vary my troops from differen't factions to get the most multicultural army (strongest) but i keep getting mowed down by swadian horsemen, I also can't lower the difficulty anymore since i play on the lowest.
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>>164070921
>>164071430
imagine 1257 but with an ugly enb and a bunch of half-finished features that barely work, and with worse troop trees.
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>>164072365
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>>164072461
so normal 1257?
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>>164072365
maybe you could try more khergit troops?

horse archers are well known to be fierce on the battlefield and useful for seiges
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>>164072461
did medieval conquests even change the troop trees
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>>164072365
floris pro here, unless you have 10(+4) surgery don't bother doing anything but archers + infantry and camping on the side of the map farming forest bandits until you get rich af
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>>164073934
Thanks man I tried that for 10 minutes and got bored so I just cheated my character and boosted his stats to 10 and gave him billions of shekels, got bored soon after that ganna hit up chipotle and chat up some girls
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>when you get the mountain
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>>164075430
did you get the blade though
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>>164075430
"Its over i have the low ground"
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>>164075929
With a mountain like that, how could we not?
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>>164076551
we the mountain blade now
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>>164076869
all we need now is a warband
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>>164077750
No, all we need now is a bannerlord.
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What matters more if you're a two-hander wielding warrior, speed of the weapon, your athletics, damage dealt, your armour or the health you have?
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>>164054865
>26%
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>>164077750
Is it possible to get out of that situation?
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>>164079659
always have a shield with you if you're 2hing a weapon so you can have protection from projectiles
even in a mod with firearms, if a gun has to go through a shield to hit you it'll deal a lot less damage
>>164079880
well the AI slowly comes closer if you out LoS them and they have a ranged weapon so yeah it's pretty easy with vanilla AI anyway
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>>164079659
Your own movement speed is king, because you will have range on most guys. Armor is also good though because if someone gets too close you can full reverse, run right into/past him and turn his staggering hit into a glancing blow while setting up your own hit.
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>Try to download Floris
>torrent link doesn't exist
>moddb download has timed out
>nexus requires you to make account
>pastebin is under heavy load
Guess I'll just fap.
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>>164080580
>Try to download Floris
for what purpose
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>be konungr
>invade the crannog episode
>finally have lords bringing free troops to die in my sieges
>they bring tons of levies and peasants, reducing the number of elites I can field at once
>redshirts falling/dying in the dozens as they get crammed into the heavily defended breach
>occasional merc/elite also gets killed because his shieldbrothers weren't beside him this day
>mfw my assault team could've broken through and begun the slaughter by now

It's still cheaper for me in the end, I guess. Just wish I could separate control of my troops and those of lords subordinate to me, or give them back command of their men so the human wave attack doesn't have to involve my own men.
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>>164081326
Hey listen buddy i know you just got warband from the steam Christmas sale and its your first time posting on /mbg/ so you think your a hot shot who knows everything but do us all a favour and lock your keyboard next time you wanna bash floris, its /mbg/ mod
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>>164081550
Make your units separate group and keep them in the back until you get enough of them to make a difference.
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>>164080357
So I reckon a great big bardiche with high damage and a speed of 89 is worse than a sword with lower damage a speed of 93 or more, would I be correct?
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>>164081832
Ok Floris user
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>>164081915
If you aren't sure, take a bastard sword and a shield. You can 2h the bastard sword as well as use it with a shield. Makes you pretty flexible

Speed is a preference. Sometimes low speed weapons are so good they outweight the penalties, like 2h hammers. But enemies with high weapon proficiency will swing so fast you might run intro trouble
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>>164015487
>Vikings don't use horses
>Danes known for lighting raids using mounted infantry
why has this become a meme ;_;
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>>164082096
I'm pretty sure two hand/one hand swords swing much slower when used with a shield, just swing it in the tavern, it feels a bit slower, might be wrong though.
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>>164013887
just wait for the super collection all in one bundle to be on sale for a nickle and a pretty snail shell. probably around $40
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>>164082231
*swinging it in the tavern
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>>164047734

If you want to be a ranged character, use javelins instead of bows. Power draw is almost a wasted skill point.

Trade is a really powerful way to make money. Frisia sells some goods, but selling goods from villages to towns also makes a lot of money.

If you play the story mode rather than sandbox, stick with the story. If you get sidetracked, you can only take over castles, but it doesn't let you take over towns before a certain point in the story.

Upgrade costs are massive, save yourself money by massing up village relations.

Purchase recruitment rights from as many villages as you can before you go evil. You can still recruit after. Going evil can be worth it because you can sell at face value to bandit hideouts.

>>164050709
Infantry do better against cav if you spam the order stand closer a few times. Alternatively you can bait the enemy cavalry to follow you and then slow them down dodging their lances. Charge your infantry after they come to a complete stop. But regardless, if you have decent trainer, a decent surgeon, and a few villages with 100 relations, army recovery is really easy.
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>>164082231
They're slower but having a shield really helps out against ranged attacks
Something I like to do is
>have a mostly ranged army
>let enemy army come to you
>when they're in range, attack 1 guy and start circling around the enemy army with your shield raised
>native AI being quite retarded, their entire army will try to kill you
>which means their shields dont face your rangers
I'm astonished in how many mods and different Ai settings this works
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>>164081915
again, it goes back to your personal style and how you can play. The big bardiche can kill a guy in one blow, great for popping into combat real quick, taking a guy out and backing out while a shield fighter distracts the survivors and you get ready to strike again. It's also your better option if the enemy is a bunch of knights in plate armor.

but a faster greatsword is a big deal too, if you're fighting guys who won't go down in a single blow either because they're good fighters or tough enemies. you can only react to a guy once you actually see him slip up, and having a faster weapon in that case could be the difference between getting the hit that staggers him or getting blocked.

>>164082231
it is, there's a penalty.
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>>164081915
>native
Doesn't really matter
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>>164082780
Trust me anon, it does. One missed swing with either an unbalanced or a slow weapon and you'll be absolutely unable to block your opponent.
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Is there any mod where spears and pikes are not complete garbage?
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>>164084115
upstab
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>>163946958
>marty's last stand
>1000 English fall to one welsh longbowman
whose got the screencap?
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>>164082231
don't remember the exact numbers, but these are all the penalties in game from least penalizing to most penalizing
>bastard weapon penalty (1hing a two handed/one handed)
>2h on horseback penalty
>polearm with shield/polearm on horseback (these penalties do not stack)
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>>164083235
>native
>slow weapons
hue
the only "slow" weapons in native are the hammers and they aren't even that slow
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>>164086235
I got you, serf.
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just as keikaku. This is as all offensive sieges should be.
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Did SaxonDragon fuck some anon's mother or something? We've always rightfully made fun of him and PoP has never been overly liked here, but lately I'm seeing an unusually high amount of butthurt about it.
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>>164088312
saxondragon killed my family and raped my dog
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>>164088312
every time i've tried PooP i just get bored by it, i'm willing to give it another shot when 3.8 comes out
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>>164088312
Butthurt over modders comes in phases and people just dogpile with memery
I think there's a lot of newfags around too so they weren't really around when the last wave of butthurt happened, they just know CUNTZUR is a CUNT and GABBY is an AUTIST but don't really know why.
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>>164088312
SaxonDragon fucked my lore.
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>>164088572
Probably won't improve much, just more graphical shit. I reckon it's like a car with a lot of gaudy looking shit that's used to distract someone from all of the dents that it has. Problem is, even if you buy the car you won't be able to fix the dents because the current owner likes the dents and will bitch and complain at you if you try to fix the damn thing.
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>>164089157
>improve much

Are you saying that PoP isn't perfect already? You are literally a waste to the M&B community! I don't see you making any mods with fantastic lore and gameplay elements like Saxondragon did with PoP! Those who won't mod aren't allowed to talk poorly about one of the best mods ever! The lore was written by his dead friend!
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>>164089726
Don't forget
>MUH KNIGHT ORDERS
>MUH CUSTOM KNIGHT ORDERS
>MUH MINOR FACTIONS
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>>164089726
>>164089862
There they are, the guys who apparently got anally raped by SaxonDragon or something.
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>>164090298
Prophesy of Pendor isn't good, it's actually quite bad, even with the upstab modification it's incredibly bland, boring, and just not fun.
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>>164052921
>>164053123
why do i always miss all the fun stuff...
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>TLD has working ballista
fucks sake
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>>164090621
>muh two ladders
ass ravaged as you may be POP is still a solid mod.
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>>164091836
the only good thing PoP has is custom knight orders, that's it
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>>164091836
it doesn't deserve the hate it gets but its pretty meh teir at best.
also,
>saxdragon pls go
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>>164051581

If they're charging me with a large amount of cavalry I do this. My own character rides out ahead of my own cavalry and baits the enemy cavalry in to slowing down. If the enemy is passive rather than charging, I position my cavalry with my horse archers. This will generally make the enemy turn their shields, walk slower (as they're walking backwards, and overall take a shit tonne more damage. If you hold off killing the leading infantry troop in the formation, they can take a lot of ranged damage.

The shock infantry are specifically troops that have 2 handed weapons or polearms. In warsword conquest it includes giant units. In native there are only really a few units that fit this (vaegir guard, sarranid guard, some variants of huscarl, and rhodok veteran spearman), but it's really good in mods to have them on a separate control group.

Horse archers can dismount if they're a unit type that's shit at combat. Some mods have horse archers that can fight, and those will often stay mounted. They can also gain aggro on a large part of the enemy force, so it's good to micro them with backspace and remount as necessary.
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>>164075430
What mod is that? I really like that axe and helm
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>>164094243
looks like boringblanda
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>>164094389
you sure?
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>>164094969
considering the UI, the dark age gear, and the stamina meter, yeah
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>>164094243
it's dark age submod for viking conquest
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>>164091836
>LITERALLY
>PERFECT
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so what awoiaf mod shoudl you use?

a good question and i will try to explain why this mod is different. Do you want a game thats more realistic or has extra survival aspects? Do you want to explore the world of ASOIAF without being tied to the story or being limited with the same outcome we all already know about? Do you want to be able to kill the lords and other npcs for good changing the story for yourself? Maybe your fed up of constant crashes and want to enjoy a game without the needless tweaks to accommodate for poor optimisation? Possibly you prefer a true gritty representation of the world in A Game of Thrones? Or you just want to join the Nights Watch, Dothraki, the Wildlings or create an army of the Unsullied? Or even maybe want to create an army dedicated to the Lord of Light or one of the many other Gods in the Game of Thrones universe?
If you answered yes to at least one of these then you should try this mod and see how fun it can be. I look forward to hearing your feedback, positive or otherwise. Have fun!!
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>>164095173
It didn't look quite like Boringblanda to me.
>>164095197
Thanks. Is that mod any good? How does it hold up to anon's modded VC?
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>>164095197
dunno why you'd want that, just makes the game uglier imo
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>>164095173
The UI is 100% different from Brytenwalda.
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>>164088312
>but lately I'm seeing an unusually high amount of butthurt about it.
Response to some fags defending it.
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>>164088312
>Did SaxonDragon fuck some anon's mother or something?
Re-read the lore...all of it.
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>>164098648

But his dead friend has already written down the story, there can't be a Poop2. It is written that all peasants should have a powerstrike of 0.1 and everyone else should have armour ratings of 114. It's just the lore, you know?
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>>164099120
>It's just the lore, you know?
Really?! Your going to ague about this, with ME?
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>>164087320
kek. I remember when he made that first post. I didn't stick around to see the end. /mbg/ are pretty capable memers when they put their mind to it.
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>>164098478
There isn't anywhere near as much defence of PoP in this or the last few threads as there has been on /mbg/ in the past. People used to post screenshots of their playthroughs and talk about the mod without much reaction at all. I don't know how many of you are actually posting, but there are clearly some tryhard newfags in the thread desperately trying to show that you fit in.
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>tfw you listen to music that makes you emotional right before bedtime
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>>164099845
http://webmshare.com/play/OV9Bb
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reminder that bannerlord's ost will be GOAT
https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/11
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Hey, guys. I just started this game. Who could I have the easiest time siding with and is it worth it in the end?
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>>164102128
My ass
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>>164102128
Rhodoks probably, they don't get assfucked from all sides like Swadia and they don't have King Ragnar bestowing on King Ragnar
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>>164099685
With 120 posters there are definitely at least 60 newfags desu
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>>164102128
I say Sarranids. If you want to eventually start your own kingdom, they're the way to go. Aside from a tiny border with the Rhodoks, their only border is with the Khergits and you'll mostly be at war with them. Their towns and castles are SUPER easy to take because Khergits can't into combat without their horses and one of their towns (Narra) is the wealthiest in all of Calradia, so it'll be good to start a kingdom with. Plus Sultan Hakim is a bro and Mamelukes are some of the best field troops in the game.
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>>164102128
Easiest? Rhodok. Side with Swadia if you like to DEUS VULT and aren't a shitter though.
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>>164062436
>>trying to raise money for a fifth oak busse but good mercenaries keep visiting your mead halls
>That pic.
Is this some sort of VC overhaul?
Gimme.
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>>164099685
I'm getting the feeling that there are a lot of new fags that are bashing Gekokujo for
>muh bland troops
Even though it's the only mod that sorta gives a good pike and shot experience, good sieges. And pretty consistent all around. More so of you compare it with shit like warsword (wich also had some following back in the days)
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>>164062436
>When this ship gets ordered and finished my fleet will hold 528 warriors,
Try getting to 578 Nordic warriors.
I want to see what happens
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>>164105268
>>muh bland troops
completely valid complaint
may as well play WFAS instead, at least the factions are different
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>>164102128
Spam heavy for Ez land battle win. Works well with sarranid mamluks or swadian Knights.
Rhodoks is the go-to faction for sieges. Does bretty gud in land battles
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>>164105389
PoP being a pseudo artistic smear shit of a mod is also a valid criticism. Doesn't stop people from jumping to its rescue.
Though they made the early grind a bit easier (read: not stupidly tedious and hard anymore) with the latest update, and changed some models so even I must admit that they sometimes go in the right direction with it
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>>164105596
never said anything good about PooP, but geko is very overstated here because of weebs when it's an incredibly bland mod
albeit some of that can be attributed to the setting, which isn't for everyone, but mechanically the mod is pretty basic with a lot of mechanics other mods have, and not much else on top
considering the info the PooP team is posting it looks like it's only aesthetic changes from now on anyway
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>>164105596
That are plenty of much more valid criticisms of PoP that never come up because you faggots can't get past muh difficulty, muh aesthetics, muh saxondragon and muh angry about elves.
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Which one of the GOT modes are better? ACOK 3.0 or A World of Ice and Fire 9.9?
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>>164106061
bump
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>>164106198
Kill yourself
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>>164105986
for the times i've tried to play PooP a major complaint (which might seem actually minor) is that i think the mod has way too many troops
this could also apply to a number of mods like 1257 but there's specific reasons as to why it works in 1257 but not PooP
in 1257 you have a fuckhuge map with 42 factions, and the names of troops clearly dictate their role
i've noticed in PooP that the mess of units you can accrue while starting are pretty random as to what their role is which gets pretty annoying
i would like to give it a proper playthrough though, but i'm still waiting for 3.8
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Summoning the Ginge
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>>163937887
I know I'm responding to an early fucking post but why the fuck would Lord Assrape even notice you if you just started and couldn't even raid a village.
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>>163937887
>nietzsche
???
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>>164108190
>>164108498
Anon is idiot. Probably got jumped by 12 mountain bandits and is trying to look smart.
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>>164046039
Why do people always say this, just because they live in hills, seem far more like the Flemish tbqh
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>>164111404
The crossbows.
Also the little bit of lore that Kastor of Veluca tells is highly reminiscent of the Rütlischwur
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>>164101604
>that empire theme
The only right choice. Vlandia as a close second.
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Reminder that Vlandia and Empire will be the pleb and reddit filter for Bannerlord just like Swadia and Rhodoks are for Warband
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>>164112580
Read the dev blogs namefag
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>>164112625
t. dirty battanian savage
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>>164112625
>suspiciously not mentioning the dank Vikangz /rush/whatevernord as the fav faction of steam and forum fags.
I've seen very few people outside of here actually supporting the Empire.
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>>164113229
Pointing out the Sturgians as the retard filter seemed redundant
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>>164113229
>rush
Rus*
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>>164112625
Reminder that the Wiccan Battanians are the /mbg/ supported faction.
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>>164113723
>Reminder that the Wiccan Battanians are the /mbg/ supported faction.
Wrong.
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>>164087320
Fucking brilliant
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>>164113723
The Khuzaits will dominate the world.
Behead all battanian fucking shits.
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>>164113723
Whichever one has crossbows or two handed swords(read: not axes), I'm with them.
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VLANDIAN PRIDE WORLDWIDE
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>>164114774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98
My man
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>>164115956
>desperate rhocucks are still trying to claim Vlandia
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>>164117005
>swadcucks in Warband
>"WE WUZ IMPERIALS N SHIT"
>swadcucks in Bannerlord
>"W-WE WUZ VLANDIANS N SHIT"
Well, which one is it, swadcucks? :^)
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>>164117881
Both statements are correct
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WHERE IS MUH BONNERLORD
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>164119185
Prophesy of Pendor is the real Bang Her Lord.
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>>164119349
I WANT MY BUTTERLORD
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>164119451
Just play PoP, I told you, it's the real Ban Their Lore.
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>>164120437
SHUT UP CUNT
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>>164120830
I dont get it, he's only talking about B Noldor?
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>>164117881
>rhocucks and swacucks fighting over whoever has the better army while sultan hakim is fucking their wives
Truly pathetic
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>>164122672
This. Mercenaries or bust.
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3rd fucking time where I got to the finals of a tournament and then lost because they gave me a fucking crossbow/bow vs horsemen. Thats fucking impossible to win, who made this random bullshit.
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>>164123052
Are you retarded?
>bait them into a corner
>get behind them
>headshot
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>>163974331
I dont speak computer, how do I stack up to this? Cause my shit looks better when I play it.
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>>164123249
>start in the middle of a field
>they get multiple passes by the time I get to a corner
>no shield or weapon to dodge anything
Im an archer/int bot in game Im not used to dodging. Also its PoP so they kill me in 1 hit.
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>>164119451
are you the one who commented pic related on the ginge's steam profile?
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>>164123728
>not using the lowest quality so you can have 1500 battlezie

go play thesisms
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>>164123954
No, but I should do that too
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>>164123960
How do I set it to 1500? Max is like 200 some if I remember right.
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>>164124121
Real easy, just do this:
ACCESS DENIED: YOU MUST HAVE 4CHAN GOLD MEMBER PASS TO SEE THE CONTENT OF THIS SPOILER
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Is there a program for making scenes outside of the ingame editor?
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fug
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>>164123027
>people unironically fight for someone else in this day and age
they're the real cucks desu
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>>164063137
have you considered that maybe it's just mountainboring
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>>164123728
you'll run warband easily senpai
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>>164124275
There's no reason not to scour across the land looking for mercenary swordsmen in taverns whilst capturing and recruiting simple farming for your army of mercenaries.
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>>164124470
*simple farming folk
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>>164123728
wtf is wrong with your cpu
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>>164124587
Nothing, you just cant open the computer to clean it out so its probably full of dust after 4 years.
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>>164124470
>employ nothing but mercenaries
>have massive army of mercenaries
>create kingdom of mercenaries
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>>164124751
Ive done that in POP, just maxed training on all companions then just used heroic adventurers. Got tons of money hunting Noldor. Walked around with an army of 600 of them late game.
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Is there any way I can win in PoP being evil?

I hate the noldor.
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>>164125808
Modify it till you enjoy it, then post it here. That's the real victory in Prophesy of Pendor.
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>>164124751
I thought I did something like this in M&B but then someone told me you couldn't go independent in the original so I can't trust my own memory anymore
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>>164125808
Ebony gauntlet
And you can always be evil, unless you want to loot your own villages. Hell just become a multi millionaire by trading at first, put dyeworks in eveyones shit but sarloen and the empire, then take over Ethos and you get like 2k troops in 1 month. put 100 size militias in everything. Find which nobles are evil looters and capture them and release 10 times then bring them over.
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>>164125808
It's not evil to want to kill the elven cunts
>>
man, tournaments in VC made me realise just how bad I am at the game, fuck
>>
>bring an army of 200 crossbowman to a siege
>automatically win against everyone but nords
Nerfs when?
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>>164127198
>vanilla
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>>164127474
Nords is just a faction, every mod has it. Im playing POP right now so its the whatever they are.
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>>164127198
l never had problems against nords in a siege, literally just lay your crossbowmen in a line and wait
>he doesn't have 10(+4) tactics
>engages siege with 1 to 5 units
lel
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>>164127862
No its just that with nords you have to suicide your troops a few extra times so when youre going against 600 with only 200 its not as easy as every other faction.
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>>164128025
>suicide your troops
desu you should avoid doing this at all costs unless you have 10(+4) surgery skill, otherwise the morale is gonna be so fucking low your freshly recruited troops will leave
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>>164128201
I always play int archers so its not a problem.
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>>164128634

It's more fun just to kill everyone yourself. Screw intelligence characters. Most campaigns I don't even both getting enough intelligence to read books, maybe the 7 intelligence leadership book at most.
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>>164130080
I enjoy playing archers, and I modded AGI out of the game so INT went to weapon master and riding so with 12 str I get a good bow and when I hit 400 archery Im doing a good 50-60 on low tier elite troops.
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>>164131208
>I modded AGI out of the game
what the fuck
why
>>
>>164131265
I just mad STR the combat stat, CHA the people stat and INT the know things stat. I never get AGI, I hate the stat, and it doesnt really do anything.
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>>164131419
sounds terrible
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>>164131419
So is it fully modded out, or is it still there just not tied to any skills?
>>
GINGEEEEEEEE WHERE'S MUH BONNERLORD
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>>164131419
AGI is for riding ebin horses.
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>>164131845
Still there and not tied to skills, Im nit spending too much time on it just changed that and let things max at 15 instead so books go above and beyond
>>164131697
>>164131931
It doesnt affect my game play other then letting me pick different starts for rollplaying. You can get 4 riding from the start so I never put points in it.
>>
>win game
>join new game
>torb and symmetra duo queuers on attack
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So I'm attempting to improve Prophesy of Pendor, what makes minor factions unable to take territory?
>>
>take over town right after coutry takes over fortress
>wants to give me fortress
>if I take it I doont get the town
>if I refuse it I cant get any land for a while and wont get the ton
Fucking hell.
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>>164133381
Wrong general, overshit kiddie.
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>>164131419

>Agility does nothing

It seems like someone never touched crpg.
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>>164134908
Dont know what youre talking about but it does nothing in the base game or in the mods I use so it does nothing. I ignore it every game if I can get 4 riding.
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>>164134997
>this is what retarded INTbitches believe
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>>164134908
>crpg
>>164134997
>it does nothing in the base game
but it does
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>>164135164
Then what? You can ignore it and play fine, I have every single game. Its a waste of points. If I want cash I can jusst trade, which I do before the start of the game. I dont even join a faction until I have 200k. Renown spam with a mace and soloing groups of 30 raiders is possible at level 1. That gives tons of money too. Everything else can be thrown on a AGI bot companion.
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>>164135429
you can ignore anything and play fine, that's what a build is anon
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>agility is worthless
>which is why I cheated to give myself the benefits of agility without investing points in it
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>khergits attempt to take shariz
>"rhodok republic and khergit khanate made peace"
>khergits still fighting for shariz
>they take shariz and l can't even join the fight to defend the city
what the fuck khergits
>>
>>164136153
Like I said I got rid of agility so I can do something other then the 4 riding on the start of the thing and I dont waste 2 companions on agi. Because it is worthless it does nothing for you but you have to keep people for pathfinding (how is being more lithe the same as learning the routes in an area) Looting (how does being more lithe give you more shit from the end? I want to disable that altogether) I think spotting, which is more of a be smart enough to use god damned scouts and weapon master which should be in str or int since I gutted everything else in AGI. Weapon master is the only real on belonging there.
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>>164133545
>Storm London and retake it from a French garrison
>Ask nothing
>Get nothing
>Lead an attack against French held castles in southern England
>Ask for one of them
>Get nothing
>Conduct a brutal campaign in Normandy taking the major city and freeing Henry III from prison
>Demand I get the city
>Fortify it against French counter attacks and hold off several attacks
>Gets given to some turncoat
Savescummed the game there not gonna lie I planned from the start to make Normandy my own, and I won't have my plans ruined because a few fucks voted for some random cunt out of pity
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>>164137096
>path-finding and spotting are AGI skills
Not even gonna bother
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>>164137238
Arent they? Its been years since I modded it out. I just remember weapon master being the only one making sense. STR should be shield, its about how long you can hold on to it as someone beats an axe into it.
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Whoever made put AGI in this game is nothing but an idiot, when l get up in the morning and get on my high horse to shitpost on mount and blade l don't need any agi at all so can taleworlds please delete this gotdamn useless stat like for real fuck agi whenever l look out the window to look for potential bandits l can see really far even though i'm to intelligent to look, this is clearly not an agi but an intellectual skill, if i find whoever put the stat in the game i'll flip my shit how could tw even think that it was a great idea to begin with fucking dumbos literally what does weapon master even mean you don't need agility to master a weapon you need agility to do gotdamn yoga like those dumb sandniggers lower in the map with their weird horse tricks the only time l leveled agi was when my girlfriend asked me to do a split in dickplomacy so she could fuck me with her strapon more easily and l think that it's a waste of stat because l could do a split using my brain and moving my legs with telekinesis fucking turks can't make a game no wonder butterlord will never come out retards are taking too long to add agi in their pussy game

also how l do fix the one shot javelin problem l'm already on 1/4
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The most sensible way to look at it is that STR is, as the name implies, strength and AGI is basically dexterity and general physical skillfulness.

Both are about as useful, with most of the skill choices being really situational to how you build your character, what weapons you want to use, your playstyle, etc. Weapon master and power strike are probably the most universally useful out of the two attributes.

The split between them makes sense since the necessary attribute point investments makes it less viable for your character to be both an absolute killing machine and a genius.

>>164137353
>STR should be shield, its about how long you can hold on to it as someone beats an axe into it.
When durability hits 0, your shield breaks and you drop it. Shield skill has no effect on shield durability. Shield skill reflects your ability to wield your shield, deflect blows and cover your body effectively.
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>>164138245
>getting hit by projectiles
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>>164138646
it's them goddamn agility cunts
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>>164095262
thx
now i know theres a new verson
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>aserai
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>>164139467
>>164139467
>>164139467
>>164139467
new bread
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new bread when?
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