/lidg/ Let It Die General

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first for best grill

>>163914509
So is it a coincidence that she shares a last name with one of the Hater Arcade cabinet characters?

Can't work up the energy to climb today ¦ 3
I'm too comfy and can't be bothered with the stress.
Spent too long farming for Dod and Milk greens and only got 1.

>>163914509
Every time she stretches I think she's taking her top off.

>start leveling the nail gun because you want a cool DOD 1handed ranged and have like 9 spare dod blacks
>IT USES WAR ENSEMBLE BLACK

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http://vocaroo.com/i/s1LYGxKpmKY6

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MUAHAHAHA!

>>163915426
You can upgrade welding gun instead.

Just started the +4 of the T4 Katana R&D'ing.
Here's hoping none of the other weapons I like are that asinine in the quantity of boss metals they require.

>>163914950
buy dod green from the secret shop, it will save you lots of trouble

The rotation today has a dead end on floor 3 with 8ish scrap metal if people still need to farm those. Forgot about the name of the place.

>>163914509
Va is fucking bad

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>>163914368
Reminder to anyone posting helpful guides etc; Watermark that shit since reddit fags like taking stuff that isn't their and rebranding it.

What is a good invasion weapon?
I tried using dual hammers and tried to invade someone but they had 5x lv50 characters and I could kill 3 of them but the last two end up killing me.

>>163918653
i had a guy on 23 using only claws. acted very hit and run. when i got him low hp, he ran away full speed and then did a turn and burn
rapiers are typically good as well
snipers can be pretty OP, i believe they bring in good money when they kill a bunch of NPCs, but i wouldnt expect many player kills

36 expeditions 21-29 later and still no slowmungus. is there a specific floor to get there more often?

>>163918774
It seems that slow/high damage weapons are not good for fighting haters and invading.
It seems that quick weapons like the dagger and machete are the best weapons.

>>163918845
I stick to 21 constantly and I have about 20

guys, is it worth it getting past bronze rank in TDM (+1000)? Any good rewards or is it just a waste of time for now? I have tier 3 fighters and rapiers soon.

>>163919074
its good money/spl.

>>163919074
the money is worth it, but dont tier up fighters too quickly
try to maintain gold (1500+) before getting 4* fighters, as you'll run into rapier defenders constantly at that point

>>163919151
>>163919236
thanks though I'm not sure if I can reach 1000. I'd need to do it in one sitting because getting invaded is a -50 and most people on my list are 500-600 and give fuck all points.

>>163919645
expeditions and raiding. it sounds like youre in the 700 area, so just refresh the list constantly until you see someone around that space. i noticed 3* people with low money typically never set up defenses, though that was a few weeks ago. if money isnt a concern for you right away, just go for the easy points

>>163917624

Hey anon, ever kiss a girl before? Probably not. K bye, emo.

Are the two handed weapons really as shitty as I think they are ? or should I just git gud ?

They just seem so slow

>>163918116
like some anon just stole that original material guide from reddit and just added a pic of dsp?

>>163921128

they are really good if you abuse shrooms to make up for the slow speed.

>>163921128
>>163921224
the pickaxe you can charge it up with mastery, its often better to just have it at the ready, and when they get to close you drop the hammer on their asses, same with running back and charging up the motor psycho

>>163921128
No. There are shitty 2h weapons just as there are shitty 1h weapons. Use the L2 attack for virtually all of them if you're not though.

>>163921401
axe pretty much use the l2 attack for something that doesnt take billions of years to swing

When do raids become worthwhile? 2k gold per raid is meh after having to wait on load screens

Serious question? Does the combat ever get good?

I played for a few hours and the combat is barebones basic. Almost mindless compared to similar controlling games. Don't want to spend another minute playing the game if it never gets good.

>>163921551
sounds like you already dropping the game nigga, i dont think this game is right for you

>>163921551
no

>>163921634
>>163921638
Thanks. I figured it wouldn't change much after the first few hours, but I wanted to make sure since some people seem to keep playing it.

I should remember there are people that play Runescape still too, lol.

>climb from hyakudori to daneda blahblah kill everything
>from the position the hater spawns in hyakudori, he kills 3 screamers by the time the "step off escalator" cutscene even finishes
you know, i'd be all for hater kills nullifying the quest if it was a mechanic you could plan a route around problem areas to secure a win, but this is literally impossible. knowing f2ps it probably wont ever be sorted out, too

>>163921738
lol yeah, funny how people have different interests eh?

>>163921738
lol xD

>>163921471
climb the tower and your rank will go up, which matches you against players who tend to have better banks/tanks.

favorite california and scroll through the list real fast, watching the thousands digit place for the resource you want to catch any 4 or 5k banks

keep in mind that raiding increases your rank, and a high rank waiting room attracts people looking to boost, so if you grind them too much early on (like me) there comes a time to reap what you sow and get trashed down to 300s very quickly

im only on 16f so im sure the guys who've cleared the tower are making way more a raid than me

so is the verdict in that lucky star doesn't affect kill coin drop value?

>>163922470
Not sure where you got that from.

>>163922530
some random post where someone compared kills while on a striker to kills while on a lucky star and used a large enough sample size

he came up that the drops were the exact same on the two different classes with a ~60 luck difference

>>163922626
ive heard lucky stars on expeditons bring back mroe money, but no confirmation

>>163921738
If this is barebones basic, as you were comparing it to "similar" games aka dark souls obviously, then Dark Souls 3 is just barebones. There's like 7 weapon classes in that game and they almost all share the same movesets and weapon arts, and the ones that are unique, the boss weapons, are usually trash. Ooo look me nigga, I can parry you with a dagger and hit yo ass back by flying through the air with a big-ass sword but do no damage. Even though there's not like "variants" of the same class(like ricards rapier and Crystal mage rapier), only upgraded versions, with the exception of like the jackal sword, all the weapon types have their own gore, rage, and moveset.
While I do think they could make the combat more fluid by allowing different attacks to combo, this is by no means THAT simplified compared to Souls. You want to be Crowley or something and have (useless) spells?
And as someone who has played Runescape for like 10 minutes, your analogy is bad.

is there a softer jackal alarm that sounds before the loud one does? it swear i hear the music change or here this soft dwoop

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>>163922767
I hear random breathing sounds moments before a jackal comes.

No, its not my fighter, everything is dead and sometimes its a woman's voice or a man's when I'm the opposite gender, either I'm going insane or I'm scared I've killed everything

>>163921738
All soulslike games have barebones combat with souls itself being the worst offender
>muh Nioh
It does have something resembling combat system but it doesnt matter much with majority of demons not giving a shit about your fancy moves and half of the remaining enemies being defeated more easily by typical souls way

>>163922470
Luck AFFECTS coin drops, LS gets like double the money
Luck DOESNT AFFECT metal and equipment drops, don't farm bosses with it ever

>lose 5* striker like a retard
>go make my second 5* because i have enough snails for it
>she drops a 5*+2 katana
ayy

>>163922959
yeah even if i clear a floor in 5-7 mins it still feels like im taking too long, i often level stamina last, so having shitty sprint duration makes me clench my ass

>>163922767
yes.

also the gun jackal says c'est la vie when he spawns

Why doesn't Mother Barbs talk during the U10 tape?

>>163923164
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>163923273
It's supposed to be a mysterious thing even meijin hasn't seen before or something like that

Whats a kill everything quest exactly?

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>Just killed 10f boss
>now on a new tier
>All this uncooked M food on 11f with no enemies

muh dick

>>163923276
Literally make one and try yourself, coin difference is seen with the naked eye, i didn't get 170 coins per mk1 tuber kill and 300something per kawabe chest screamers on the level on my collector and shooter
for drop chance ask >>163922626, i personally didnt notice any difference, if anything it's worse on lucky star because it deals like half of the damage to bosses making farming longer

>>163923559
Kill everything yourself. Don't have haters kill screamers for you.

>>163923654
haters spawn there after a point, be careful senpai

>>163923654
There is a hater around, and the M food won't do you much good very soon.

(Do jackals start showing up during this phase, they were out of commission when I got here?)

>>163923654
you should have unlimited amount of food thanks to expeditions anyway

>>163923815
Currently there's a theory that midboss counts for jackals so until you kill both it and hater nothing spawns
Hope it's true, hate speedrunning through this place

>>163923972
Oh that's right, there is a boss there.

Never had any encounters while a mid-boss is "active" so I'd say its true, if so anon is safe to enjoy the scorpions

>>163923805
>>163923815

There was a naked hater yeh so easy enough. But how can you be certain there will be all the time? I thought haters were people sending there chars on expeditions, so its not gonna be 100% right?

for my newfriends stuck on jindie 16

get a t3 striker maxed out, a 2* machete with 20 mastery, and a stingshroom. bring 3-4 rage gauges, cause your machete rage move stuns the bitch out of anything she's charging up, including pukeray

should be a cakewalk if you land them quick enough. dont miss

>>163924290
Haters will always be around, a hater is a players "dead" character and pops up where it died last kinda like a lingering phantom.

If no one in your rank range has died then a dev hater spawns there instead and they can be quite annoying on later difficulties.

>I thought haters were people sending there chars on expeditions
You get a warning when someone sends one, players have to manually choose a target, they chose the player and see which floor they're on, otherwise its a corpse/dev hater

>>163924496
Thanks senpai

Question
[Spoiler] whats the quickest and most efficient way to make webms [/spoiler]

>>163924578
Fuck oh well on the spoiler. Didnt work right from mobile for some reason

>>163924684
remember that if you're using spoilers, it's "spoiler". Your phone probably autocorrected and capitalized the first one.

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>I take a tad bit to clear a floor because I ran out of curatives and im low on life, so I'm playing it safe
>Finally fisted everything to death, time to get the lo-
>Flashing lights
>Suddenly a fucking jackal with a katana comes in and walks towards me slowly
>Remarkably slowly, as in giving me the chance to get the fuck out of there
>I'm an idiot and charge in while thinking of evading his attacks and see what he can do
>1,6k on one single hit

HELLO DARKNESS MY OLD FRIEND

>>163924419
that or rape her with a red hot iron, use a rage attack between the 1 2 combo

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>find first skillshroom
>oh cool, this prob gives me new decals
eat it
>read the mail when I get back in waiting room
>gotta trade them in

>>163924890
>looking for he exit
>its right around the corner
>alarm goes off
>run face first into a jackal with the escalator in sight and he kills me

what 26 floor is jindie in today.

>>163925158
>uncle death tells u not to eat it
>eat it anyway

>>163925283
nobody told me that

>>163925158
dont worry, you'll get plenty.

>>163925325
read ur mail senpai

>>163925356
you can get them from expoditions so dont worry

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>>163925378
>read the mail when I get back in waiting room

>>163914509
>Sends her friend pictures of her snoogling the friend's boyfriend for her birthday then pretends she did it on accident just for shits and giggles
>Sends another friend a picture of her snoogling her crush for shits and giggles.
>Is generally mean to everyone except Uncle Death
>Proceeds to complain about how she's always sad and how she's having a terrible day.
Best grill is mushroom-chan.

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>>163925439
>not reading the mail as soon as it comes

How to unlock dev raids?

>>163924578
Get Webm for Retards, then it's just about autistically going frame by frame to make sure you get it just right without awful starts and endings, and having a good resolution + bitrate.

Bitrate > Resolution, always remember that. You do not need a 720p or 1080p webm if it's going to look like a blocky mess, the same applies for 480p and even 360p. Unless your webm is 40+ seconds long there is no excuse for blocky video.

>>163925573
high rank in tdm, man i wish there was a monster hunter like mode with jolly co-op aganst a super boss.

>>163925573
10 5* fighters in locker + join team cali.

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> chokufunsha had the rogue armor chest and head piece
> only have enough for one or the other

>>163925671
Chest piece

>>163925558
The last time I opened the menu on a floor I got surprise anal

>>163925671
chest, the head piece gives negative strength

what's some good looking armor

>>163925704
Ok, the safest time to read mail is as soon as it comes, which should be as soon as you step off the elevator/escalators.

Enemies are never as soon as you enter an area, least until you walk a few steps to trigger them, if in doubt standing on an escalator but not using it and no "engagement" music means you're safe, also applies to elevators.

Enemies don't wander too far around anon

>>163925789
The purple steel tribe set is cool looking

>>163925846
i'll check it out, thanks for the recommendation senpai

>>163925843
enemies actually have home positions they wander back to as seen when you use a death metal.

>>163925895
haters also have fixed spawn locations on all floors which can be a number of places but only those places.

>>163925694
> grade 1
Damn. Why the heck do I see enemies using around Crowleys area. Weird

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Some screamers starter glitch out at times becoming topless like haters.

How come there are no Tuber Mk.2 quests?

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The damage drop off on the tier 5 weapons is absolutely absurd.

is raiding the only way to get enough splithim to upgrade your shit to t4

>>163926589
It's either that or waiting a couple hours for expedition rewards from the 30+ ones since they give you around 1k each.

Spending the day grinding my R&D's to 3 stars to kill time before the tower changes to give the shortcut to bypass 23F GOTO

A little bored with the game but the grind is kinda fun for what it is

>>163926554
It really is
Also what chest armor is that

>>163926767
The real trick to goto beside shrooms is to bring spears, and level them up so you can use R1/L1. That move hits like a truck. Bring lotsa sting and slowmungous shrooms. Katana works too.

>>163926907
Texas Slasher Coat t3. It's +2 so it has 1243 defense, got it from a 30+ expedition.

>>163926907
>>163927043
Texas slasher drops in floors 1-10 lol. You'd have to upgrade it so much to get that Tier 3 one.

>>163926979
>katana
>23F
literally how? i thought it only drops on 31+

>>163927170
haters will sometimes carry it. Although you may need to get 3 star bodies first before those kinda haters show up. So yeah, you'll need to find the skip to floor 25 lol.

>>163927152
Frontal pic pls, will supply tier 3 rogue in return.

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>>163927448
You caught me in the middle of farming Goto.

>>163926554
damage drop off gets less bad by +3 on muramasa blade

they're only bad on +2s so people cant abuse em as badly

game will never drop +3 and +4 though

>>163927740
I happened to get a +4 from either an expedition or silver chest yesterday, I knew I should have saved the damn thing. It wasn't that much better than the +2 there, it was around 500 or 600 if I'm remembering right.

Any reason why I can't name one of my mule collectors anything with the word "Metal"? I mean it's not like that's any form of profanity unless its on the level of Disney censorship.

>>163927873
only one real way to get a +4 is through a successful TDM defence

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> have to go back to 31+ but have no more death sheckles
Even if I prepared properly I wouldn't die much as I didn't before when I had the sheckles, but damn not having any just in case sucks

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>>163927670
Yeah still not into the noose.

>>163928473
nice does doctor drill HENSHIN?

Do collectors level up their death bag space when you actually take them into the tower? Or is it just Grade dependent?

>>163927886
Well for one it doesn't allow spaces for some reason yet it gave me a random name that had a space. It was "Big eater," very strange.

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>>163927945
Might have been a Hunter sent after me now that I think about it. Sold the thing off though, I don't keep the tier 5s unless absolutely necessary due to the damage falloff. You're lucky I have a Hornet Saber +4 on me though. Even a +1 tier 4 saber has less damage falloff than a +4 tier 5.

>>163928685
the later

>>163928724
so use 5 star for bosses/jackals
and 4 stars for everything else

too bad it doesnt apply well with those whos max is like 3/4 star

how do you overcome floor 23 when you don't have any black metal shit to get newer and better weapons and you don't do any fucking damage to the boss

>>163928995
mushroom

and realizing that goto 9 is a dumbass piece of shit even with his new following body slam

>>163914368
Are quests ever going to be fixed?

I'm missing out on tons of free spook metal

>>163928724
Grade 5 is primarily for defenders I guess. Pretty fucked up I wasted so much time getting a +3 Muramasa Blade and it just sucks.

>>163928928
>so use 5 star for bosses/jackals
It's not worth it though. One rage attack from any of them will drop the damage down to worse than a tier 4, and if you use it normally it'll be worse than a tier 4 within 10 or so attacks meaning you have to switch out. As of now it would be smarter not to bother with grinding out tier 5 weaponry, no clue about armor though.

>>163928995
You farm Kawabe's metal chest for black material and you abuse Slowmungus.

>>163929024
>and realizing that goto 9 is a dumbass piece of shit even with his new following body slam
Wait half a second when you see him jump and then roll.

>>163928995
just farm golden chest in 22 till u get black metals

>>163929137
>It's not worth it though. One rage attack from any of them will drop the damage down to worse than a tier 4, and if you use it normally it'll be worse than a tier 4 within 10 or so attacks meaning you have to switch out. As of now it would be smarter not to bother with grinding out tier 5 weaponry, no clue about armor though.
thend dont use the rage attack

unless your stacking buffs

>>163929024
i can't seem to get any good mushrooms in expeditions (have been trying for four days now, never get cloak or slow)

>>163929137
i hate the idea of going to kawabe because i really don't do damage on my all-rounder but i guess i gotta

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I was over complicating my life by farming haters for Spears, Axes and Katanas to fight JinDie when this entire time a 2* +4 Iron did the job just fine. 1 sting shroom, 1 invisibility shroom and 1 Iron its all it takes. You can kill her faster if you dont fuck up like I did in this webm. Farming her is now a whole lot easier.

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>>163925158
>find bronze skillshroom
>it looks quite similar to crushrooms it you don't pay much attention
>eat it off the ground like i always do with crushrooms
>realise what i'm eating halfway through animation

Why don't they fucking localize the floor names, I can't relate to some dumb romanized Japshit name

>>163929313
just pretend you only missed out on some shitty discount sticker
>>163929368
what's the romanization for "Tokyo"?

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>people who use shrooms during raids

All consumables need to be disabled during raids. Guardshrooms last long enough for you to kill every defender.

>>163928685
Death Bag space is only improved by improving the grade of your fighters, or by using an express pass.

>>163929237
The point is that it's only useful for a rage attack when at full durability, and at that point you're better off just carrying another tier 4 due to it not dropping damage like crazy after a handful of attacks and you can use it way longer. Like the other guy said, it's probably better off for Defenders than actually using it yourself since it'll never lose durability once you research it.

>>163929257
Stop using the All-Rounder, it's not worth it at the 20s. Striker from now on if you're climbing, Collector if you really want to abuse shrooms or gather stuff.

>>163929313
dont worry they arent that rare

>>163924419
Who wants to play a game where you need to do all this shit a certain way to kill a boss, and there's no room for error because if you die you can't attempt it again for 10 hours?

How do you even figure this out without dying a dozen times first? This game does not seem fun at all.

>>163929451
>The point is that it's only useful for a rage attack when at full durability, and at that point you're better off just carrying another tier 4 due to it not dropping damage like crazy after a handful of attacks and you can use it way longer. Like the other guy said, it's probably better off for Defenders than actually using it yourself since it'll never lose durability once you research it.


its more key about oneshotting any of the area 4 midbosses in one go though

atleast my Katana rage does

>>163929451
i have all maxed out rank 3's of attacker, collector and all-rounder. i really don't want to grind a rank 3 striker before i unlock rank 4 on level 25.

>>163925843
>Enemies are never as soon as you enter an area
Literally wrong, some floors at area 1 at least feature screamers/haters in line of sight from elevator

>>163929557
Then use attacker or collector. Collector is more than enough for anything you're facing right now, long as you're not stupid.

>>163929557
Attacker is fine if you can handle how brittle it is, I personally just stick with a Striker even at tier 5.

>>163929405
>>163929458
They are but holy shit it was annoying, especially with how poison eater costs 4 of them and i really wanted it. Never ate a crushroom without looking at it first later

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100 hours later my first Treasure Tuber spawns. It dropped a shiny golden chest with nothing

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>Waiting room was attacked last night
>oh great, let's see how I got fucked
>Wait, the music is still playing
>why is there a bloodstain and clothes on the floor
>check the tetsuo log, dude died to second defender in 30 seconds

I'm so proud of my kids

>>163929671
attacker is fucking awful in that you can't make one mistake against an enemy that can combo easily. fuck attacker

>>163928724
So is the consensus that you just don't bother making T5 weapons?

>>163929557
>not using striker aka best fucking fighter class
will u scrubs ever learn?

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The solution to every problem in this game seems to be "grind more" or "farm this"

Are you guys serious right now or is this thread just one big meme and nobody really play this

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25F here, what's the best way to find MILK black metal and DOD Red metal?

>>163929708
>extremely rare enemy
>it drops nothing

Why have it in the game then? Its so discouraging.

>>163929557
You can use a side floor to unlock a grade 4 striker during one of the rotations or you can just use enemy dropped spears/axes or an iron + abusing either feeding GOTO crushshroom/stingshrooms or using slowmungus/transparungus + stingshroom.

>>163929767
Only grind out tier 5 for defense if you're getting serious about grinding for it. Armor is by far the most important thing for that though.

>>163929708
>83 KC
That's just the cherry on top of the shit sundae there

>>163926554
can you make screenshot of the coat from the front?

>>163929815
22F trap chest for the MILK black, only way to get it
Red metals aren't until you get into the 30's though

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>>163929710
>see this happen twice
>on both occasions the buttmad shitter attacked a 2nd time to attempt to prove a point

>>163929751
Well, in his situation he just needs to clear 23 so it could be fine enough for that since you just Slowmungus/Transparungus the fight anyway.

>>163929767
Pretty much. Tier 5 weapons are only good for a handful of attacks before they become so underpowered you'd be better off with a tier 3 weapon. I brought two tier 5 katanas to my first Jackal fighting thinking they'd be enough to kill them all and instead I just barely killed X with both of them.

>>163929972
See >>163927670

>>163929815
>MILK black metal
Kawabe 22 chest
>DOD Red metal
Coen 34, you also get one off a piss easy weapon quest when you hit 30 something

>>163929807
No, it literally is "Grind moar" and "Farm moar". Then you have your fun.

>>163929708
>100h
>4* fighter
???

I'm guessing that I should make sure I have T3 weapons for the late 20's and Crowley?

>>163930020
>>163930086
thank you senpai, I'm going to kawabe now

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> been upgrading special forces pants for the heck of it
> finally get the grade 2 to +4
> next grade is Captain's pants
Now we're talking, except, where do I find war essemble red metal? Does anyone know of any gold chests 30+?

>>163930138
Where is Candle Wolf Green?

>>163930138
I honestly only think there's a need for farming when you can't make the weapon you want. Maybe I'm just not getting things yet.

>>163930070
Holy shit why do they have to spoil all the cool jackets with some stupid stuff in the front

>>163930070
where do you get slowmungus/transparangus tho

expeditions aint getting it for me

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>>163930139
I enjoy grinding and evolving what I can before moving up. Currently working on the welding gun and kamas.

>>163930172
u dont have one yet? shit first thing ive done was getting rapier recipe at 21 then farming 22 to upgrade it

How bad is Jin die on 38F?

Is death burner iron enough?

>>163930232
yataka-cho is probably the best
although you're probably better off farming jindie if you get a good weapon off expedition, t5 katana kills her in like 3-4 hits

>>163930275
Transparangus randomly shows up on the tier 2 floors, kinda rare

Same goes for slowmungus on tier 3 floors

>>163930275
Send expeditions to 16+ for a higher chance at Transparungus, Slowmungus is a bit rare but it's not hard to find. If you're going to farm Kawabe then you'll certainly find one every once in a while there, otherwise send people to 23 and hope.

>>163930372
>Is death burner iron enough?
Get yourself a Katana or Pork Chopper if you can. Death Burner's okay but I wouldn't recommend it for her.

>>163930372
> ANOTHER jin die
What the fuck. I thought it was just Coen, GOTO, then dosukoi. The final area is all fucked up with its shortcuts

Are the blueprints in psn store like the KAMAS AR store exclusive or can I still find it in game?

>>163930495
You have to go a shitty roundabout way through yataka cho - 37 - ebata - harasomething (visit shop while you can) unless you want to be cockblocked

>>163930549
lol

>>163930549
They're in the base game and they appear relatively quickly after the first don.

>>163930495
You have to fight every previous miniboss including U-10 every two floors on 30+. U-10 on 32, Coen on 34, Goto-9 on 36, Jin-die on 38, and Dosukoi on 40. They do give you elevators after U-10 and Coen are beaten, then before Goto-10, and then I think it was before Jin-die as well.

>>163930549
Everything they give you in the store can be found in-game.

>>163930549
All store shit can be found in the game, and usually really early and with barely any problem

>>163930642
Oh so it's not the usual get around. I've already beaten U10 and coen so I think I've opened the higher elevators. Thank

I killed a hater with a crown by their name. What does that mean?

Also nearly killed myself by rolling through a poison snail smoke lol

>>163930778
>with a crown
premiumfags maybe

>Did my Katana +4, doing well
>Kill U-10
>Some shitty MK-4 tuber charges at me and throws me out of the Tower right after
>170k to retrieve my character
Kill me

>>163930930
Looks like the tuber did that for us.

>Finally got around to fighting Jackson
>Dude just wants his fuccboi back and none of this Tower of Barbs bullshit
>The entire "fight" could have been saving a gay nigger from suicide
>If it wasn't for Jin Die coming in to fuck things up (holy shit that head ripping scene)
>In death he appreciates the fact that you finally took him out of his misery

Was I the only one who almost felt sorry for Jackson?

Also, tower of barbs be some scary shit if you think about it. Imagine having to spend almost an eternity being nothing but a body less power plugin for killing machines made out of corpses.

On the other hand this just popped up in my head. What exactly is reviving the bodies in the tower? Was it the Dons or the Fungus in the tower?

Why do Haters and Screamers occasionally decide to run away from you only to turn around and fight you like normal

>>163929708
>83 KC
I'm dying

>>163930365
I've been a bit lax in farming, is what it is. I should probably go heavy on the 22f chest since rapier seems really good and I just got that BP.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11974401

how premiumfag is /lidg/

>>163929807
just slowmo/invis your way through the game its ez.

snail room when

>>163930930
One time I drove the motorcycle right through the like 4ft gap in the wall in GOTO 36's boss room. Luckily I had a death metal because I felt like a retard. Even though it was my fault, still don't think it's as bad as getting fucked by a scratch tuber

>>163931129
you should be able to get through the game without needing to buy anything other than the 5 for 30 dm for storage.

>>163931267
It was a bone tuber with that electric charge shit though.

>>163931013
I think the AI tells them to flee to see if they can't lure the player into a trap of some kind or to claim a weapon of some kind. I THINK I've seen a hater heal before. He was fighting a group of screamers, dropped into a river and I saw green numbers and he was back in fighting form fighting them off.

Haven't seen anything like that since.

>>163931249
Tonight I think

>11F Nokejiri gold chest drops a blue metal
what the fug man

>>163931284
yeah i bought both booster packs for 19 bucks, a great price for the product imo and i've almost maxed storage. after that all metals are gravy. im looking forward to it.

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>The next up coming floors are going to be mythology themed

But what kind of mythology though? Asian?

>>163931350
My was definitely worse then. Didnt think much on "charges at me"

>>163931353
Hater AI will try to find food if it's close. There were probably some fish in the river.

>>163931350
That move does 0 damage through block. I feel like nobody understands how good blocking is.

>>163931481
>kabuki noise when entering bosses on zone 5
>kabuki mask + fan weapons.
Im excited.

>>163931284
I've beaten the entire game just with the DMs they've handed us, but I think buying the $5 deal and using the DMs solely for storage is what everyone should do. 150 slots is nothing to scoff at, especially endgame, and usually you'd go after this deal if you liked the game anyway. It's completely possible to F2P the whole thing though if you don't want to pay.

>>163931481

The new enemy they showed has a medusa head. Probably that. Titan Quest mythlogy.

>>163931705
ain't it great? the five dollar booster pack is a gem imo, i hope they make a ton off that

>>163931705
Yeah, the model is fairly solid as far as f2p titles go. The Premium service is the iffiest part of the whole thing, but still I'm pretty chuffed with how well they handled it.

Now if only they could fix the jank.

>>163931692
That sounds more traditional Japanese than mythology and traditional Japanese is already kinda covered by candle wolf and that sumo boss.

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>>163931481

>eating mushrooms doesn't stop hunger

this is retarded

>>163931570
I always dodge it but this time I got fucked. Oh well, I guess I'll take a break, wait for my characters on expedition and go TDM raiding later.

>>163931705
I beat the game with 0 express pass use and 0 dollars spent. I have 10 fuckin passes available right now.

>>163932210
I see Greek and Indian Mythos there

anyone see anything else?

>>163932210
>dragon chest
>dragon pants
>medusa
>griffon boots

Oh boy we going into Dragons Dogma territory.

tell me about the scorpions

why do they sasasaori?

>>163932310
the wings and talons look kind of egyption to me.

>>163932308
I'm at 7 passes myself, never used a single one or a DM for revival, DMs were strictly for storage. Frankly, it's amazing they chose this kind of F2P method and it works well, but at the same time it has a chance of hurting them if more people play like we do.

>>163932383
sassassassoriiiii...

>>163932383
they're very apologetic

>>163932383
it's the equivalent to how we think our cats say "meow" and dogs say "bark" when they don't sound too much like that. so they made it so they are actually saying the word.

>japan memes

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I sure fucking hope the February update adds a better way to get metals. Fuck these chests.

>>163932308
I use the passes just for elevator girl.

>>163932417
I would be open to more stuff being purchasable with DM for sure. I want to be able to spend like $20 on this game and feel good but with my storage at 400 already I don't even see the need to buy the $5 pack but I still plan to when they release the first content update.

so i got to floor 33 where do i go from here and when its the earliest i can get 5* characters.

So, how come the quest counter girl is so skittish when talking about the Yotsuyama group?

>>163932623
You kill U10. F35.

>>163932623
kill U10 katsuma 32F then keep climbing up to 35 for tier 5 fighter.

>>163932757
so u-10 is on floor 32 right also do i need to do coen as well

>>163932723
How would you imagine will an average dumb girl behave if some weird ass gamer loser creep will suddenly come to you and ask weird questions about corporations you never heard about?

>>163932815
how hard is u-10 what do i need to know

>>163932914
I fought him by accident, wasn't even expecting it, used 2 Guardshrooms.

>>163932881
Yeah, but everything else you ask about she seems to be very confident and sure about.

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>tubers

The golden chest on Floor 22 mentioned by the guide is Kawabe, right? just making sure.

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Apparently going to 36F+ and killing GOTO-9 disables the music in the game

>>163933078
Yes.

>>163933078
Yes, just run past 21 and then find the trap in 22. On 21 the path that's the farthest is the one that leads to Kawabe.

>Beat game
>Can't climb anymore
>Okay I'll just play other games
>Nothing good came out recently
>Maybe I'll just have a new run in the tower
>There's no option to start from scratch so I can pick a meme weapon like in Souls

FUG

>>163933086
Same with coen 34, every time i kill this cunt my music is done

>>163933130
the escalators are color coded

>>163933130
really goto 23 is better for candle black metals as guard shrooms are common

I wish I could have pets in the base. Fill it with scorpions

>>163932914
U-10 isn't that hard with the right shrooms, but for the love of god DO NOT FIGHT IT WITH A MOTOR PSYCHO THE HITBOX IS FUCKING ATROCIOUS

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>Silver skillshrooms are rarer than Gold skillshrooms

that doesn't make any sense

>>163933179
>no option to start from scratch
it's called making a new account
and no one forbids you to make a new lower grade character, buy the meme low grade weapon and do it

I'm about to start climbing into the 30s now. Give me your best advice, dudes. What kind of weapons/armor should I be using? Is it okay to still be running rank 3 shit?

>>163933214
Yes, but if you run more than one "section" of the map when you get to the two hallways that's the correct one. The incorrect one will always be a hallway into the escalator.

>>163933246
so pork chopper then

>>163933237
>come back after a long climb
>stingshrooms everywhere

>>163933237
They'd kill each other.

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>>163932383
>>163932441

>>163928473
What legs are those?

>>163933297
New account thing fine, but if you climbed to 5* characters those dev haters aren't going to like your 1* meme weapon character

>>163925843
It's entirely possible to arrive on a level and be within aggro range of a screamer. (Uncommon, but possible.)

>>163933391
Delete them all then, dev haters seem to be based off your highest tier

>>163933380
Dark Rogue, same as the top.

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>mfw Rank 5 defenders with rapier and flamewand

i dare you to find a better setup

>>163933661
Rank 1 All Rounders on expeditions.

>>163933228
>Goto-23
>TRIGGERED
That fuck made me waste an absurd amount of death metals because I didnt know the mushroom trick.

>>163933661
Together? I don't think so. Rapier alone seems like the true and honest best defense.

>>163933661
Well, considering the Rapier is fucking bullshit on AI Haters, I can't.

>headshot damage boost sticker
Is this only good with the sniper rifle?

>>163933661
And yet it still loses to the Iron

>>163933732
pork chopper and sting shroom waste him fast. its not even fair for the boos hes dead before he can even go red.

This game has a serious problem with the upgrading system.

There's no fucking reason why there should be +5 in each upgrade tier, and 5 different star variations of every weapon... it's completely asinine, as you can finish the game without any upgrading whatsoever. It's a timesink trap, a piece of bait dangling in front of people to trick them into wasting their time.

What the fuck?

>>163933661
9 defenders with nailguns is actually better for armor destruction, imo. I've seen that twice and I noped both times, had no shrooms.

>>163932383
sasori in japanese means literally scorprion

>>163933838
Yeah, if you time it right. If you don't time it right it'll either put you both recovering at the same time, or you'll just eat the combo anyway, and if you do time it right they'll already be recovered by the time you run over to them. Not to mention if you dick around with the iron on them you'll just get a second one with a rapier.

>>163933961
Wouldn't be surprised if you can buy upgrades with death metals at some point just for more freemium shekel-making

>>163934004
so its making fun of the American Pokemon dub right

>>163933753
It's best on AR

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>>163933961
Hey I played Warframe. I can take this abuse too.

Can you respawn a golden chest by moving on an escalator or do you gotta go back to waiting room?

>>163933246
I used 10 guardshrooms and only got him down 1/6th of the way with the motorpsyco.
>>163932914
just find a couple 5 star weapons and repair them.

any good floors for farming bullet metals? secret shop sounds alright but the fact that its appearance is RNG and the price is 20K per metal is retarded

>>163933961
It makes it easier. You know, sorta like leveling in other games.

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>>163931481
I'd be down for some Greek/Roman Mythology if it means I can deck out my fighters in some sweet tunics or senator's robes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAltBiow9Js
>man i am a sucker for this shit
>KIMI NI TODOKEEEE
>KIMI NI TODOKEEEEEE IINA
>i wonder what the other lyrics are
>attempt to google translate by ear
man this some gay shit

i still play it in my waiting room

Maybe the floors all look like shit because they plan to release 20-40 floors every content update.

>>163934701
Oh is that for real? Like how finished is this game?

I predict the first content update launches in February with the Japanese release.

>>163934768
its a f2p, dude, content updates are essential to survival

>>163934787
They said we'd be getting new weapons at the end of February. Hopefully this means a new section too

>>163934301
Waiting room. Only things that respawn floor to floor are mobs and haters. chests, mushrooms, and beasties will all need to be reset from the waiting room.

>>163934768
Well the whole theme is climbing the tower. Right now there are 41 floors and none of them take place in the tower. We are making our way to the entrance of the Tower. Next update we might start climbing the real thing.

>>163934553
Does a new area and new theme mean a new gear brand as well? So having to grind up all those metals in the 40-50 range...

>have a friend who doesn't send his fighters on expeditions
>Doesn't set fighters to defend
>Doesn't raid

He just climbs. I can't tell if he's better than me at this game or not.

Why are all materials rank 1?
its annoying to remember what zone each thing is in.

> p master ninja, ninja, and p ninja
> 200% damage suplex increase
Damn only if the suplexes did damage late game

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>>163934949
>and none of them take place in the tower

>>163934297
>played Warframe
what even for

>>163934949
Spoilers, dude.

>>163935138
>just climb the fucking entrance to the tower senpai

Is stacking mosquitos and vampires a viable idea? Cause on paper it seems like you're getting 20% health per attack. Am I wrong for thinking it works additively instead of multiplicatively?

>>163934914
Source?

>>163935236
an ounce of prevention is better than a cup of cure.
double damage output is better than healing.

>>163935236
You get about one hundred health back with p mosquito, mosquito, and vampire w a tier 4 fighters damage output. Havent tried t5

>>163932723
She works for them

>>163935236
I think the main thing is that there are better decals you can equip for damage purposes, and that by late game you shouldn't be getting hit in the first place
You're never going to be scraping by with health, you're either basically invincible or two hits away from dying at any given moment

>>163935193
I hate myself.

>>163935090
It's not hard to remember if you play enough

>>163934949
The tower is just outside man. You do reach the top but in the intro they say it "grows every year."

where is can i find iron bolts

>>163935448
do you not wear armor? Because this isn't the case for me and I wear the Hell slugger set

>>163935592
Nonokura

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>>163935138
>he thinks you even started climbing the tower

>>163935656
Maybe if you wear +4 final tier armor and it becomes worse with every hit
I weared a full set of recovered 1k+ defense armor and 39 screamers could easily do like 700 damage per hit at least

Just a warning, don't send people to 41. They just come back with a single KC drop and a single SPLithium drop.

>>163935138
>sewers
>outdoors(?) sandy place
>some kind of amusement park
>???? (havent gotten that far yet)

Yeah doesn't seem like much of a tower to me.

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>there is no storage option to sort by item name
>sorting just mixes all the materials

Night Scout set fucking where? I've been all over the second area but still find nothing but nailgun, longsword, and assault set BPs.

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>>163935138
The real game hasnt even started. These 40 floors are just the tutorial.

>>163936206
maybe, but consider that the tower of barbs is basically a city unto itself- it takes up the entirety of the island of South Tokyo, and there's no proper "tower" shown in any of the art or cutscenes

>>163936206
The last one is a bunch of rooftops and skyscrapers above the clouds

So to win should I be using my money to buy stew and get the decals? its a lot of money.

>>163936206
final is rooftops
it feels they just picked the most developed parts for current tower and left anything else for addons

>>163936383
I love looking up at the tower like that. Are there areas further up where you can look down and see your progress?

>>163936424
until you reach floor 20-30 and really need armor to get by, your KC should be dumped into stews and maybe a weapon

>>163936424
Yes. KC to progress is buying good weapons from your shop and mushroom stew.

>>163936424
Yes, the premium decals are always worth your money since purchased gear will usually last several trips if you're not using them on fully armored enemies.

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>>163936391
I hope we enter some nice office buildings at the top. The jackals are too well dressed for this shit.

>>163936496
No you just see grey mist as a warning to not jump down there

Time to fuck off now because of all the spoilers.

>>163935886
where is that

>>163936424
your money should go to
buying needed weapons/armor>upgrading backup fighter tier>equipping defenders>mushroom stew

>tfw the narrator is voiced by Mark Hamill
>Jackson is voiced by Billy Dee Williams

>>163936714
This game has a narrator?

>>163936647
>equipping defenders
This is completely pointless until tier 4 at a minimum and you shouldn't have a giant amount of KC or SP on you at any given time anyway.

>>163936515
>>163936531
>>163936537
>>163936647
Wait so stew is last? im on floor lv maybe 6 or so and I never bought a stew yet
the decal dont go away right?

Fuck base defending. I get nothing out of it. Spent money on gearing them up and it all goes to waste because they stop nobody and when they get kidnapped they lose all the stuff I bought them.

>>163936012
The hell slugger only goes down about to 650 when it's about to break, especially with a t5 fighter they only do mediocre damage pre-mk 5

>>163936898
Stew is always the last, do you really want to waste all your money to get a shit decal and be left out without money to buy needed equipmant and elevator fee?

>>163936647
>Equipping defenders before you even get rapiers
>Equipping defenders when you get 5x as much back as you will ever lose from expiditions

don't listen to this faggot.
Buy a weapon, then buy stew.
Buy armor if gearing up for a boss, otherwise just use hobo armor

>>163936926
This, I'm not gonna start this until my defenders can be 100% OP

Anyone know what Chemo-Synthesized Oil is used for? I've got some of it laying around from my secret shop runs

>>163937127
Jackal gear. I think one of the shirts or weapons required it specifically. You need like 40 of them.

>>163937127
Some level five stuff
Jackal gear

>>163937180
well the requirements sure are retarded for Jackal gear. Be honest, does it worth it at all? are they really so super good, or is it just fashion?

I mean, after I kill them for the trophy, should I even bother farming them?

>>163936926
There's literally no reason to give your defenders anything other than leftovers until you hit T5 and can afford to buy them high level gear without it costing you much, since you'll have more KC than you know what to do with by the endgame

>>163937356
Basically fashion

>>163937356
No one knows because getting even one weapon requires a ridiculous amount of ultra-rare mats and upgrading will probably take even more

>>163937356
It's just fashion. No stat benefits and 300 defense for the first level, we have no clue if the defense bloats later on.

>>163937356
It'd be worth it if the jackal shit had unlimited durability, but as of now it's just aesthetic

>>163936714
Does everyone here just browse reddit now

do you get more staff if your goons kill people on expeditions?

>>163937371
but even than, people can just abuse shrooms, or outsmart the ai and still has the win, on top of that, they can take one of your defenders, with all their stuff. Seems like a pretty bad deal to me

>>163937468
>>163937540
>>163937549

That's kind of a letdown. Do we know anything about uncle deaths golf club?
honestly making perfect stamps sounds cooler than even more farming for jackal shit

>>163937616
You get more KC and SP but not by much.

>>163937616
yeah, just send 1star ungeared level 1 bald people, it's the best world for everyone

>>163937645
supposedly scythe is for all stamps (don't need to be perfect)

Doers GOTO-9 on floor 11 drop Candle Wolf Green? Asking because JIN-DIE dropped me a War Ensemble Green every time I fought her, but he didnt drop Candle Green the first time I farmed him.

>couldve been pay to play
>wouldve probably received much better funding
>release with all 130 supposed floors
>come out with more content all around, some of the current balance problems fixed, and some other polishing such as the combat
>so much GOTY potential if they had recieved better funding and went on a pay to play model
It hurts deep down.

>>163937768
just bought 9 rapiers though

>>163937645
Uncle Death's stuff is like half the requirements of Jackal gear and it's still something like 300 or 400 damage from the BP picture we've seen.

Perfect Stamps just aren't worth it, a single mistake is essentially a death for your character or you have to redo everything, and you have to do it over a course of days because some stamp machines aren't accessible every day. The scythe BP is also just for basic ones, not perfect.