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Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/
The next expansion, Rise of Bahamut, will be released on December 29th.

Official reveal site:
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/riseofbahamut/

Compilation of all cards revealed, including leaks:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh
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All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor :

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872
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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

Get your iDOLM@STER Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152390648098880643/
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Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
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Old thread: >>163601447
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5 reasons why arisa is the best

>She is cute
>She is not a dyke
>Her class is fun to play
>She is the star of the show
>She is perfection

hsg back in the op fuck yeah
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>>163624662
>not a dyke
wew
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POST A CARD YOU WANT TO FUCK SO OTHER ANONS CANT FUCK HER

I start with dat ass
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OFFCIAL CUTEST LEADERS POWER RANKINGS

1. Luna
2. Arisa
3. Vampy
4. Erika
5. Forte
6. Isabelle
.....
90000001. Eris
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>>163624765
claimed
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>>163624765
My wife and only mine
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>>163624774
>trampy
>cute
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>>163624662
>not a dyke

She wants to fuck that albino elf harder than Erika wants to fuck the Princess
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>>163624765
mine
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>>163624531

Yeah I meant Elana Seraph. Who runs Elana without Seraph anymore?

Why do I find it gross? Because it can regularly beat decks that outplay it.

If you get the amulet and you get the heals they are done. Even if you don't get the amulet, if you get the heals you will still probably outlast most aggro decks except maybe bat aggro with perfect curve.

And then on top of that you have the most overpowered win condition in the game that's faster than everything but Dshift basically.

But more than anything I hate decks that rely on getting a specific amulet. For me it puts decks like Elana, Banner Sword, and even Old School Guardian Sun haven on par with meme decks like Titania's Sanctuary that everyone can plainly see are absolute trash.

It's one of the reasons I refuse to play PtP or Dshift as well.
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need a concede
36869
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This Unleasher sat on the board since turn 4, hitting face every turn
Why not kill him when you had the chance
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>>163624765
My wife and pet
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>>163624931

is the albino elf a card?
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Help me with my daily please.
64174
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suggestions for this deck?
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY FUCKING SLEEVES CYGAMES.
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>163625212
Deleting it
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>>163625126

I want to marry Mimi and make Cerebrus my pet.
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>>163625212
Instant deletion
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>>163625153
Nope, but I understand why Arisa wants to fuck her.
Dem tits look really good.
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>>163625212
Seraph instead of Lucifer
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>>163625212
Dust Lushitfer to craft Seraph.
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>>163625094
thanks
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>>163625212
ditch luci for 2 seraphs, replace 3 unicas with 1 more dogma and 2 healing prayers
pure elana is a tier 2-3 deck
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>>163625306
I want to cum on her face, force her to wait for the cum to evaporate, and leave the stains on her face
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Learn to e a clean girl for the concedes no one wants a stinky concede
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>>163625091
>win condition in the game that's faster than everything but Dshift basically
It's called Phantom Howl, AKA if you have 11 or less HP on turn 6 then the game is over.

Honestly I want to go into depth about this but I won't be able to change your mind. I will say that anyone that just adamantly refuses to play other decks is retarded because playing with those decks gives you a greater level of insight into how they function than what can be inferred by simply facing them. This in turn makes matchups against them easier down the line. Elana Seraph, while strong, is entirely beatable and it's generally through extreme early pressure because against enough aggression, dropping Elana on curve is actually suicide and generally playing around specific threats like Themis isn't very difficult either.

I've never understood how self-righteous players get about what decks they or other people play.
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>>163625460
I just concede with whatever their flair and emblem shows.
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>>163625247
L-lewd.
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It's probably me being a shitter but holy shit banner seems so much easier to play than storm haven. I'm winning so much more and easier since I switched.
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>>163625615
Yes it's actually a very straight foward deck and there's no difference in the mulligan or the early game.
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>>163625615
Do you perchance play against haven the most?
Because banner is literally anti-haven
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>>163624530
http://www.strawpoll.me/11948518
Checking on the average /svg/ player since almost everyone has been playing for a bit, no bully.
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REMINDER to open your packs today on Christmas for Santa's Luck and increased drop rates!
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>>163625696
I swear the rates are up I've had 4 leggos in 5 packs now.
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>>163625615
Because contrary to popular belief, Banner is actually more straightforward and consistent than Storm Haven is. Storm Haven makes up for it with explosiveness and greater flexibility. Banner doesn't have to adjust too much for matchups and just wants to go for the throat right out the gate and close the game out ASAP before the enemy can stabilize.
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>>163625696
>Open pack
>Seven bronze, 1 silver
Y-You too.
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>>163625696
IT'S FUCKING TRUE i just open this and more legenderies
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>>163625091
>I can't faceroll every deck

The whining in these threads about everything is delicious. None of these decks are problems.

Bitch when this game has reliable 1st/2nd turn win combos or cards that are so brainless they go in every single deck no matter what. Because right now, all you fags are whining about are people building around cards that combo well with others. Thats how CCG's work.

None of these cards are winning games on their own with no other support.
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>>163625615

Mid Sword over banner all day, every day.
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Is midrange blood gonna be viable? Mastema looks pretty annoying if you don't have hard removal and Iceblade Friend looks pretty solid.
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>>163626101
Fuck you.
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>>163624765
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>>163625539
>comparing getting out aggro'd to lel auto win card
Just kill yourself already.
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Free packs?
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>>163625819

The main reason I prefer Stormhaven is all the broken haven removal cards.

In terms of pure smorc potential I think just about any other aggro deck can outdamage Stormhaven.
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>>163625539
>phantom howl
>win condition
>requires an evolve and doggie to hit 11 damage
>cockblocked by wards
That's not a win condition retard.
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>4 dragoncraft or shadwcraft wins
I didn't want to play for an hour
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>>163625887
JUST KEEP OPENING PACKS SEMPAI

YOU CAN DO IT
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I can now relax completely and wait until everyone arrives for Christmas.
Ya'll faggots should be ashamed if you don't have your favorite card's flair or emblem.
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Onwards, ho!
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>>163626113
ccgs have disruption and playable counters

this is a hs clone with titties
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>>163626113
Fucking this.
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What do i do svg.
I wanna play shadow but i also dont want to play aggro shadow because there are alot of the midrange cards i like playing. At the same time i like having a decent win rate.
Ive just been throwing my head against ranked and ive gotten stopped at A2 and i cant win against the sea of havencraft. Should i just quit shadow and rank up with something else?
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>>163626271
Dragoncraft is easy for me, and I'm just using my fun deck
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>>163624765
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FAAAAIRIEEES~
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so what pre-constructed decks are we not seen yet?
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>>163626391
play tempo forest
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>>163626271
t2
>>163626391
Ive just been throwing my head against ranked and ive gotten stopped at A2 and i cant win against the sea of havencraft. Should i just quit shadow and rank up with something else?
Yes or wait for RoB
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>>163626265
>>163626229
>A burst combo using a specific sequence of spells is not a win con
Phantom Howl, Enstatued Seraph, and Dimension Shift are all combo cards that require setup and multiple cards to kill off someone. These decks can win without these cards but their general end game is to win matches using them.

>>163626263
That's because Storm Haven is an aggressive midrange deck, it's not pure aggro.
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>>163625212
kill yourself
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>>163626463
We have all of them as of the Runecraft deck.
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>>163626391
wait and see if the expansion saves it
else drop it
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>>163626518
Not that guy you were arguing with earlier about elana seraph, but phantom howl still isn't a win condition.
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>>163626462
Dumb dubcuck
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>>163625212
It's fine just give a try to odin and execution instead of lucifer
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>>163626113

The point is that Elana and Dshift push the entire meta towards aggro decks. Control is dead. Mid decks are dying. It's mostly just Elana and Dshift or their aggro counters which usually ends up being Tempo forest played as an aggro deck.

But even then Elana still beats those aggro decks all the time.

Isn't anyone tired of the elana/dshift/tempoforest meta?
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Have you bullied an Elana shitter today?
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>>163626391
I was stuck on A0 as Midrange Shadow for a bit but I had a breakthrough and climbed to AA at something close to an 80% winrate.

I do think the craft is in a bit of a weak spot but I'm expecting Rise to make it better, a lot of people think the cards it got are weak, but every archetype's gotten a card or two that'll definitely see play which is better than most better archetypes can say and that's usually enough alone to push win rates up in other card games. Shadow by nature just takes a lot more building and match up effort than most crafts, I honestly think it's one of the most straight forward to pilot but getting to know your opponent's decks and adjusting your own went a loooooong way for me.
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Hello anon, i dont hate you for what deck you are playing as long as you are having fun with the game

also merry christmas
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>>163625212
It's fine but if you're replacing lucifer with seraph get more count down reduction cards.
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>>163626518
>Still comparing a card with multiple counters with cards that straight up win the game upon being placed on the field.
Can you just out right say Gilgamesh is a win card because it has storm faggot?
>put opponent to 5 hp
>win
>it's a le win card because of le setup
Faggot.
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>>163626787
>elana fault
kys
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>>163626789
>turn 10
nice, you beat a pure elana tard
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>>163626891
>implying his seraph wasn't petrified.
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>>163626816
T-thanks.
Merry Christmas to you.
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>>163626789
post dick
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Any sugestion for my first deck?
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m-merry Christmas /svg/
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>>163626975

Sword is simple and powerful
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>>163625696
Fuck you, nigger. I should have waited for the Seraph Lapis post.
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>>163624765
>you will bever get doubled teamed by a thick busty ninja and her shadow clone
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>>163626975
>unga bunga = play sword
>high IQ = play other classes
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>>163627016

Which titty mage is that?
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>>163626789
Yes, and I bullied dirt eating tards too.
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>>163626787
>I've never played a CCG in my life

That is literally HOW meta's evolve. One deck thats good gets made. Decks to counter that deck get made. Then counters to the counters get made.

Then this sits for a while. Then a new set comes around. Then the meta shifts a bit to take into account new cards.

Then a new deck emerges. Then new counters emerge. Etc.
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>>163624765
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I WANT /tg/ OUT OF MY BOARD
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>>163627241
no
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>>163626854
>>163626681
I guess Rhinoceroach isn't a win condition either since it requires being set up off of other cards. Oh man wait until I tell people that cards like Grapeshot aren't wincons because they don't have "You win the game" in their rules text.
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holy shit this is the worst time to play
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>>163627241
I'd rather have hsg go and stay go.
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>>163627241

Alchemist?
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>>163626789
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>>163627241
/tg/ is fine, /hsg/ needs to fuck off.
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>>163626970
I'm surprised by how well I'm doing actually.
I was afraid to take it to ranked for the longest time but I'm getting 5-7 win streaks in A2 which is more that I could get with my Shadowcuck/Bats and Midswords decks.

I do lose to other meme decks here and there but I don't mind because at least it's fun for both players. Lost to queen Rose deck today.
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>>163627295
>I guess Rhinoceroach isn't a win condition either
No fucking shit you retard. A follower with storm isn't a win condition. Holy shit just kys.
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>>163627241
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May anyone concede for the private quest?
19873
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>>163627346

that must feel good
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>>163627443
Sorry i was late for the concede. Was getting read for you
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>>163627295
And whatever the fuck is grapeshot? Is this some hsg shit? Fuck off back to your shitty game if you think storm is a wincon.
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>Storm is not a wincon
>Storm into the face
>Win the game
>"Not a wincon"
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Is it Thursday yet?
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>>163627610
Ever heard of tyrant?
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>>163627432
Actually yeah, the roach is a combo wincon.
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>>163627691
>Goblin is not a win con
>get opponent to 1 hp
>hit to face
>not a win con
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>>163627432
The endgame of Aggro Shadow is killing the opponent with Phantom Howl by turn 6, this is something it aims to consistently do, much like how D-Shift aims to consistently boost the spell so they can shut down the opponent. The deck isn't like Banner Sword or Aggro Bat which are just "hit face until the other guy dies", Aggro Shadow specifically wants to get its opponent in kill range before they assemble their combo pieces and just blow off the opponent in a single swoop. Phantom Howl combos can do up to 15 damage in a single play. Gilgamesh is something that can simply close out a game, it's not a card that you build a deck around. Death Tyrant is another example, it is a STORM FOLLOWER that you build a fucking deck around.
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What if RoB gives us a more cancerous meta like Gadgetzan did?
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>>163627610
Storm is totes a wincon.
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>>163627610
It's a MtG thing.
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>>163627443
Thanks Vampy-chan!
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>>163627692
I wish.
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>>163626812
Adjusting as in deck choices or choices you make while playing because yea there might be some tech choices i could change in the deck.
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>>163627804
Maybe if Nephthys and Discard Dragon are the top tier, and even in those cards only if their best builds turn out to be more swingy than not.
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>Wake up
>RoB is not out
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refusing to play more than two cards at once is not a viable strategy against mid sword
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Post decks
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>I'm gate keeping anyone around 10k points from the top 1.000 while conceding to people at AA3

Merry Christmas, /svg/. :^)
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>>163627989
Maybe you should sleep a little longer.
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I love Jeanne!
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Which craft would be the best for neutral deck? Neutral deck actually looks quite promising with 2 PP banner. Sahaq summon Gilgamesh for 6-8 face damage on turn 7 looks promising.
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>>163628058
Fuck you no wonder I keep going into 7 games lose streak every time im 300pt away from my rank up.
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>>163627129
t. Has only played Hearthstone
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>>163628045
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>>163628045
NOTHING HAS CHANGED
And nothing will change until the expansion arrives.
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>>163627346
50% of this general would've fucked that up
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>>163628196
Holy shit these Chuu2 names.
Are you 12?
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>>163627872
>>163627812
Oh I only played mtg casually back in the day.

>>163627751
Yea sure you need to "buff" the roach but it's still not a wincon. You might as well say master of the canopies is a wincon as well.
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>>163628045
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Do not respond to Nerffie posts
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>>163628125
Wait, how is that my fault?
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>>163627106
Honestly looks like Millia from GG
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27122

plz hlp
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>>163628213

> <Eagle Noises>
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>>163628302
They're song names
Please don't bully
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>>163627794
Every shadow deck uses phantom howl and cerberus. It's not a wincon, it just summons ghosts with storm.
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>>163628123
Dragon for ramp?
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>>163628362

Kind of looks like Magisa too if she put on something more comfortable.
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>>163628045
n-no bully

>>163628318
who?
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>>163628303
Roach usually wins when you play it unless you're forced to waste it as removal.
>>163628402
Fucking hell, just how new to card games are you people?
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>>163628402
>Every shadow deck uses phantom howl
This is false
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>>163628213
Nice
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>>163628462

True.

There are idiots who still think Playful Necro is better than Phantom Howl.
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>>163628450
Avatarfagging shitposter stuck in A0 that thinks his opinions matter for some reason
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>>163628045
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Reminder to bully this shitter any time you get matched against him
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remove elf
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>concedes at 19 hp just because his turn 3 dogma and turn 4 baldy play didn't auto win him the game
haven shitters are fucking pathetic lmao
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>>163628379
Here my concede skellei
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>>163628379
thx vampy
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>>163628523
Playful Necro and Phantom Howl are wildly different cards. Midrange and Control Shadow do not use Phantom Howl because they have to leverage their shadows for board control and opt for other cards such as Foul Tempest, Death's Breath, Charon, Deathbrand, etc.
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>>163628579

DinoT is like the only North American person in the top 500.

Once he's gone it'll be nothing but character names.
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>>163628460
Aggro decks don't have wincons, they just rush face whenever possible. Dshift is a wincon. PTP is a wincon. Followers with storm that get cockblocked by wards are not wincons.
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>>163628045
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>>163628665
Get trip pls, thx
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>>163628665

>Both four drops
>Both summon ghosts
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>>163628460
Also
>roach usually wins when you play it
>any follower that hits lethal wins when you play it, must be a wincon
Please.
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>>163628620
Quite possible he just had a hand full of countdown amulets, in which case I would concede as well, since there such a small chance of wining that it would not be worth playing out.

Sometimes people concede that early because they are salty, but some times they are just realistic.
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>>163628690
Holy fucking shit you're autistic, Roach is a wincon that happens to be a dude with storm or are you gonna tell me that Tyrant isn't a wincon?
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Can someone explain to me which decks should have Sledge Exorcist and which should run Cudgel Priest?

I'm honestly torn here.
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>>163628879
>no ancient alchemist
>dragonbond mage
start with that
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>>163628845

Storm cards aren't win conditions because wards and HP exist.

It's that simple.
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>>163628858
Don't ever use Sledge Exorcist. Always go Cudgel.
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>>163628836
t. haven cuck defence force
shoot yourself
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>>163628858
all should run baldie
heavy control can run sledge
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This is djeannu
She will be the next shadowcraft leader
Say something nice about her
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>>163628858
Everyone should have cudgel. No exceptions. I run Sledgehammers in Pure Seraph, and that's it. You can put them in Elana seraph if you want I guess? But they have no place in storm at all.
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>>163628858
Sledgehammer Exorcist is a tech card you use when the meta is throwing out big followers

Priest of the Cudget is a staple almost guaranteed 2-for-1 trade that should be in almost every deck.
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>>163628879

>Not running ancient alchemist in Dirt deck
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>>163628045
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>>163628845
>implying aggro's aggressive and cheap board flooding during the early turns isn't the actual wincon of an aggro deck
You're fucking retarded. The wincon of aggro kill them before they can stabilize the board. Storm followers just help do that but are not specific wincons.
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>>163628110
>France doesn't
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>>163628690
Flame Destroyers get blocked by wards too you fucking idiot.

>>163628858
Sister Sledge is a tech choice, Cudgel is a staple.
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>>163628963
Dimension shift and storm are basically the same.

Death tyrant decks run the card that lets you ignore ward.
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>>163628986
>>163628993
>>163629010
>>163629018

Ok thanks. Sledge seems really clutch for some situations but it makes sense that Cudgel would be the all-around better card.
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>>163628963
Flame Destroyers getting DShifted are really just storm cards tho

And PtP can't be a win condition either because execution exists
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>>163628963
If a deck has no win condition, how does it win?
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>>163628879
I would Sack price of magic for the draw card 2pp amulet. 3pp is too expensive.
Ditch one RemiRami.
Get some Ancient Alchemists instead of goblinmounts, preferably 3.
I've never tried it but I'm pretty sure dragonbond mage does nothing most of the time.
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>>163629178
dirt rune problems
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>>163629124
but you can play two at once to do 12 damage xD
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>>163628963
That's not how you define a wincon in any goddamned cardgame, Nether fucking Spirit is a wincon in ancient Pox decks in MtG and all it is as a reccuring 2/2 dude that hits the opponent while you deny them resources, or if you want a more modern version fucking Insectile Aberration is a wincon because it's a flying 3/2 that you keep alive while it hits the other guy in the face 7 times
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>>163629114
Come talk to me when you have a storm card that can summon 5 other storm cards and deal 63 face damage.
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>>163628858
Cuckgel in absolutely anything no exceptions.
Sledge in Sun Satan decks mostly.
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>>163629001
She overcame her despair and became a Beacon of Salvation
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>>163629030
>>163628950
no bully but thanks
>>163629195
Are you talking about teachings creation?
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>>163629237
dirt rune's wincon is for your opponent to be so bad that they can't clear your followers and then hope they don't have removal afterwards
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Is it me or does Aiefa look like a dude?
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>>163629052
>into free

THE WIND IS PUSHING MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>163629409

Aiela is my wife
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>>163629313
dealing 63 damage is no better than 20
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>>163629416

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiindstorm.
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>>163629001
>>163629318
inferior dark Jeanne.
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>>163629363
>Are you talking about teachings creation?

Yes. being able to combo it into things 1 turn earlier is better most of the time and the card draw can really help you not to brick if you don't draw any spenders/sigils.
It might be tough to squeeze in but maybe consider some Fate's Hand too for card draw.
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>>163629509
i bet she is getting that dragon dick every night. what a slut
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>>163629509
You can't date my daughter.
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>>163629591

Well I mean she didn't become a Dragon Knight for nothing.
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>>163628665
Bro, I've never seen a serious Midrange or Control list that didn't run at least 2 Phantom Howls. It's a flexible removal tool and leaves the Cerberus combo open in the case that you run up against DShift and Seraph.
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>>163629509
That loose armor piece and the one sided dress is a cute get up
She looks very young.
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>try to complete dailies in unranked
>get bodied 5 games in a row by full netdecking tryhards
uhhhh is it time to start sandbagging?
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>>163625679
>tfw the only reason I'm Masters is because it's physically impossible to play that many games within the time frame I've been playing this game.
It's not fair that these Masters shitters can have free reign of shit talking just because they have a rank that's not even obtained by skill, but by time.
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>>163629608

Me and your daughter. We got it going on.
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Okay fuccbois since you are all confused about win cons here is a tip. There are varying degrees of the win cons. For simplicity there are hard and soft ones. Regular aggro pressure and smaller combos is a soft win condition if that is how the deck actually achieve victory . Hard win cons are usually things that end the game within a short amount of time due to extreme power combo or value and usually hard to stop when they are played. Like double ptp, dshift, seraph and tyrant with ward ignore.
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>>163628665
I run a single copy of phantom howl in my midrange necro deck and it won me more games than i'm willing to admit
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I love it when the elf gets aggroed while in "spawn fairy and call it back to acquire shadows" phase then disconnects
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>>163629806
I will find you, and I will make you my wife!
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>>163629793
I meant not masters
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>>163629745

So it's ok for her to be a literal human sacrifice for an extra play point orb but it's not ok to fap to her?

Shadowverse morality in a nutshell
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>>163629793
>Frogposter
>Good enough for Masters
Pfft
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>>163629178
Decks like those win with follower pressure. Why do you think people talk about decks with no specific wincons yet they can still win with it? It just means there is no specific wincon, you just win by killing shit and smashing face.
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>>163629732
This is true, that was a pretty dumb statement for me to make in the first place. It's important to establish that Aggro and Midrange/Control Shadow use Phantom Howl in pretty different contexts however. It can be a win-con in any instance, but only Aggro has that specific card as its endgame, whereas the others have options.

>>163629834
Same, which makes my previous statement that much dumber in hindsight.
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>only 500 rupies for Bahamut packs.
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>>163629915
It was less of a "too young" thing and more of "she looks just a bit older than a loli"
You could confuse her as a man if she didn't have such a feminine hair style is what i'm saying.
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>>163629793
>>t. A0 blogposter
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>>163629283
>this mtg comparison again
>when we're playing an entirely different card game
Why don't you go back to mtg if you want to play it so much?
Your wincons in mtg are not the same as this game, you can't compare stupid shit like that.
There is mtg influence but it's still not mtg.
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>>163630037
same here i need to inject packs dayli or i die
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>>163630037

Bullshit.
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>>163630095
>t. A1 blogposter

FTFY
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>>163630037
tfw Dragoncraft so i don't need to bother saving up because they only introduce 2-3 playable cards and they'll all Silvers and bronzes.
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coming from jewstone here, what's the closest thing shadowverse has to buff paladin and token druid? those were my favorite type of decks
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>>163630016
Aggro doesn't have a specific card wincon. You just win with early game pressure. You can win the game without ever drawing phantom howl. It's not a wincon.
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>>163630037
>5k rupies
>will end up pulling 0 dorothy so I still have to spend 11.5k vials
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>>163630260
Bannermeme
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>>163630235
Tfw Shadowcraft got a shitload of good cards and they're mostly silvers and bronzes.

>>163630267
>You can win the game without ever drawing phantom howl.
Well no shit. The vast majority of your wins however will be with that card.
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>>163630260
Elana haven try to roll for it and you don't will need to spend a shekel in the game.
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>>163630348
Uh SC got literally shit tier cards.
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What did Moon Al'Miraj do to get kicked out of heaven?
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>>163630348
>The vast majority of your wins however will be with that card.
Wrong. The vast majority of your wins, or rather all of it, is because of early game pressure before the opponent can stabilize. That's every single aggro deck's wincon, early face rush.
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50014
need a concede pls
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>>163630424
She didn't pound that mochi hard enough.
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>>163630405
Only idiots and people with gross victim complexes think that Shadowcraft got only bad cards.

>>163630486
Well yeah, that's how it would win without Phantom Howl. The whole point is to soften the opponent up so you can pull that finishing blow though. It's not a necessity by any means and I'm not saying that early pressure isn't important, that's the entire point, but the PH combo is what you want to pull.
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>>163630157

MAn autism really sucks, I thought he meants they were 500 a pack. wew
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>>163629106
Flame destroyers aren't a wincon, dshift is you retard. You blow removals and then drop your flame destroyers with multiple dshifts.
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>>163630638
Pray to your nethergod.
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>>163630638
Can't tell without knowing how many outs you have left in your deck.
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> Fast (8 - 10) Win Conditions by Class
Forest - Path to Purgatory, Rhinoceroach, Silver Bolt
Sword - AGGRO
Rune - Dimension Shift, Pascale
Dragon - Phoenix Roost
Shadow - Mordecai, Deathly Tyrant, AGGRO
Bloodcraft - Bloody Mary, AGGRO
Havencraft - Seraph, Elana's Blessing

Any I'm missing?
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>>163630638
Roll a dice, wish you had Khawy.
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>>163630562
>another player
Sorry to be late
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>>163630638
I hope you beat that D SHIT FAGGOT.
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>>163630807
Fortes to the face
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>>163630807
Phantom Howl
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>Turn 1 pass
>Turn 2 draw 1pp minion
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>>163630642
The PH combo is just part of face damage, it isn't a specific wincon, it HELPS the wincon which is early game face pressure.
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>>163630807
>Fast (8 - 10)
???
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>>163630807
Face Dragon wins turns 6-8 or busts.
>>
This thread has made me Wincon Agnostic.
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>got matched versus the #1 dude on ladder few minutes ago
I didn't knew I could be matched versus him from down here.
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>>163630064

All I see is a beautiful woman but when you describe it that way I guess I could see how some people might think she looks a bit masculine.

But pure femininity isn't he only kind of beauty.
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>>163630638
POST RESULTS.
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>>163630638
Pray to the underworld for a storm bug and go for face
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>>163630825

are /a/ posts acceptable in these threads? have I been nedlessly holding back on the /a/ memes this entire time?
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>its a elana cuck makes le clutch heals all game just to win with seraph episode
if this shit doesn't get nerfed i am literally quitting the fucking game
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>>163630638
Depends on what's left of your deck >>163630759
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>>163630807

You forgot Rose Queen.
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>>163630807

Santa is basically a win condition.
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>>163630642
Understand that what you're saying is basically that any aggro finisher is a wincon, IE Alwida's, Implancer, Demonic Storm, etc
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>>163631103
I don't post on /a/
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I should stop conceding with all the meme leaders nobody uses.
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>>163631120

I just caved and made a Seraph deck today. Gonna ride this gravy train to MASTER.
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>>163631120
>Not playing Rune and farming free points off Haven
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>>163631242
die in a fire retard
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Blue Liza

Y/N?
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>>163629828

Goblins are a win condition.
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The only class that got bad cards this expansion was Haven. They got fucking nothing, but shit cards and a Skullfane 2.0
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>Forest and Haven got tech options at best for their current builds
>DShift didn't get a single card in direct support
>Midsword got Albert and Amelia
I don't look forward to Rise meta.
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>have game tabbed out so cant reshuffle hand
>still win because brain damaged haven cuck didn't have his turn 6 get out of jail free card
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>>163631368

>those gigantic, adorable, green eyes
>"no" even being an option
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?
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>>163631348

I'm a retard for wanting to get in on this before it gets nerfed?
>>
What logic is there behind Dragonewt Charlotte being a sword card instead of a dragon card?
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>>163631559
Floral nigga
and princess vanguard is a 1 drop
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>>163631559
Left unless ur a c u c k
then pick right
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>>163631559
Floral Flurry!
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>>163631596
you're a little bitch thats what you are pussy.
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>>163631441
Good
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>>163631605
She's royalty, I believe.
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>>163630638
Simple calculation really. Look at how many cards are left in your deck, then recall the match and, if you know your deck well enough, how many cards can do 3 to face on turn they are played. Obvious ones here would be Phantom Howl and Cerb, but you may have others. If 1/3 of your remaining deck isn't lethal, then you play LotF and pray, otherwise you run your widow into a minion.
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>>163631605
She is a dragonewt charlotte
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>>163631671
so is Vampy
Vampy in sword when
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>win 5 games as shit class a or b
xDDD

Expansion can't come fast enough, because right now it's being not much better than Hearthstone.
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>>163631723
>Whenever an allied Officer enters the field, deal 1 damage to the enemy leader.
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>plays avant blader
>loses
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>>163631605
there are dragons in literally every craft
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>>163631559
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/2.2.5-Hb2.625lm.625kC.625kg.628AI.628AS.65vtC.61Le4.625kq.5-K1I.625k-.628Ac.628Ac.65vtq.626Sw.5-Hbg.625l8.65vtg.626T4.659nO.5-K1S.625lw.62D36.62BLa.62BLa.65922.65yJm.65yJm.61NLc.65-ls

How many wins?
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>>163631831
make it happen Cygames
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>>163631660
Is he a bitch or a pussy?
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>>163631841
>deathchaser
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>>163631887
0-5
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>>163631660

You know you could play dshift.
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>>163631983
>becoming part of the problem.
UH?
>>
who plays banner in unranked? just kys desu
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>>163631660

Ok, I'm a bitch. Enjoy your AA rank.
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>>163631947
http://usamin.love/card/deathchaser/e_effect.wav
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>>163631348
>>163631660
>whiny faggot pissy he got trashed and by some inane sense of "justice" refuses to play a deck he "thinks" is OP
This is why you'll never be meta.
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>>163631983
Why would reccomend the boringiest shittiest deck of existence 4400?
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>>163631831
Oh god the cancer,
Evolve: Summon a knight
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>>163632007
What problem? The fact that you get triggered when you lose? That's YOUR problem.
>>
I wish they'd hurry and update the official spoiler page with the remainder. I know what the cards are but it bothers me having to check back in with them for reference while building lists.
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>>163632083
kys
>>
>People say Dshift is keeping control decks down
>When Seraph exists
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>>163632379
>Seraph
>Run Odin

>DShift
>?????
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>>163632379
Petrify you fucking retard.
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>>163632309
Adding them to shadowverse-portal before release would be even better.
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>>163632379
I just want a neutral answer that ain't Odin. One of those discount enhance cards would've been nice, 6pp spell to banish follower or amulet, 10pp to get Odin body or something.
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>>163632379
dshift keeps both in check
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I got a question guys. It's your turn, you have bloody mary on the field, enemy has a last stage seraph, if you break the seraph on purpose do you still lose?
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>>163632645
seraph doesn't deal damage so bloody mary does nothing
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>>163632504
>give everyone cheap easily accessible all purpose banish
>kill every single control deck that uses amulets
Yea no. You gotta pay the price if you require banish.
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If you destroy an Amulet it shouldn't trigger the effects, Fuck this shitty banish mechanic.
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>>163632684
Just wanted to confirm it, thank you.
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>>163632743
It works just fine.
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>first legendary in a while
>it's Soul Dealer

At least it's vials
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>>163632998
fuck off haven slag
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pathetic elf cunt
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>>163633083
Sorry anon, but I am a midcuck.
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Would it be fair if haven countdown amulets required the count down to expire to trigger instead of just destruction?
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>>163633231
yes
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>>163633231
I would love that.
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>>163633231
Then countdown amulets would end up being earthrite bricking your hand or your board.
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>>163632123

Because it beats Seraph
>>
I've been doing a "Win 5 games as Shadowcraft/Dragoncraft" quest for an hour now at AA0.
Fucking kill me, I want to play my comfy combo, midrange and control decks.
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>>163633390
Any aggro deck too
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>>163633449

Seraph can easily outlast aggro with good draws
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>>163633410
I don't think there's a win 5 with 2 classes mission, but I suggest trying out aggro shadow and see what it's like.
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>nerf aria to 4 pp
>nerf elana to 5 pp
>nerf themis to 7 pp
there, haven is now fixed wow that was hard
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>>163633410
Do you have real decks for those? Aggro shadow should get the job done before long in unranked, just concede if it's a bad matchup or something.
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>>163633231
The ways for reducing cd are way too good honestly. Dogma draws a card on top of reducing cd by 2, and I don't even need to explain what's wrong with Garuda.

Although contrary to everyone here, I'm okay with Storm Haven.
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>>163633410
okay t2
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>>163633387
I thought that was the intention. You get a discounted effect on a delay.
The problem with their triggers being last words is that it makes most amulet removal terrible, since it helps the opponent. If you made amulet removal not awful, then Elena would also be easier to handle without any changes.
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>>163633524
actually that doesn't fix it, it makes it shit. Balanceing is for balance, not gutting. This is Shadowverse, don't make it trash like YuGiOh.
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>>163633524
>haven is now garbage
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>Forest PtP concedes with 13 health, t6

Feels so fucking good.
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Can I build anything nice without crafting more legendaries?
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>>163633387
It stays the same shit expect now Execution does something useful.
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>>163633645
No.
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>>163633537
I don't think those cards would be an issue if there were accessible counters to them in every element. Odin isn't really an answer to Aria or Plea.
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>>163633645
Zirnitra is such a stupid broken card.
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>just opened an animated olivia

doesn't feel as bad having no chance at the ranked rewards anymore

So, any decks that actually use her?
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>>163633645
You need one more Forte.
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>>163633654
It already does.
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>>163633645
Face Dragoncraft. Forte 'em up, anon.
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I hate fighting Garuda, the noises he makes when you hit him makes me very uncomfortable.
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Fuck haven in general. The only shadow deck that will ever not be the laughingstock of shadowverse is aggro. Even then it will still be shit.
>hurr 11 jillion damage turn 6
yeah if you set up, you can deal even more as forest the turn before if you set up as well. Same goes for banner and bats. The worse part about it is that svg will always meme about dragon being the worse even though it isn't. Discard is shit but I don't see anyone saying forest is shit because "return to hand" meme cards like rose gardener are trash. How the hell do you even defend an instant loss against 50% of the ladder?
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>>163633645
Buy dragon starter in a week for your third forte and you are in a decent spot.
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How do you guys deal with the burnout from the game? I don't feel like doing anything, not even my dailies.
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>>163633614
>>163633617
t. haven defence force

fuck off shitters
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>evolved olivia has short hair

blasphemy
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>>163633497
Yeah, it's the 4 win one. Aggro Shadow is too much of a pain with this much haven around.
Also hard matchup against Swordcraft too.

>>163633527
Yes, I have the top decks of all classes.
>unranked
Not bringing me closer to my ranked rewards, so no point. Although I guess it would be fast to do it in normal and then grind those with good classes.

>>163633561
Should have done so from the start.
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>>163633884
Just login for dailies and don't play ranked. The game the meta is pretty shitty right now.
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>>163633884
Change my main deck.
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>>163633884
You probably just went too hard for a while. I'd try to do the dailies if you can, but if not just wait for RoB launch.
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>>163633884
I don't feel burnt out. I'm having fun playing this game. Plus new shit is coming. Plus there are multiple crafts to play.
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>>163633767
>Execution
>useful
No.
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>>163633645
>30 fps
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>>163633764
>>163633780
>>163633861
What about Zinitra? Can you make anything decent with her? She seems like a fun card and I have 3. Maybe some ramp shit with Olivia so I can evolve her?
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>>163633524
here fixed
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>>163633760
Control Sword does and you can stick it into pure Elana and Dirt Rune too. You'll lose to DShift and Seraph, sure, but you'd lose to those anyway - may as well strengthen your strong matchups.
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>>163634039
It's sekrit tek against Discard Dragon, we have to continue making them the meme that they are.
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>>163634039
>5 point kill any follower
>not useful
spotted the d shitter
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>>163634084
Can you stop forcing this shitty picture?
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>>163634084
>5pp so they have to choose between this and Avant Blader
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>>163634084
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>when you lethal on turn 5 in Take Two
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>>163631956
Well you're wrong so far

Give me your Christmas energy /svg/
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>>163633830

I've heard this control shadow deck has a really good winrate:

http://game-ai.jp/18629/
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>>163634259
>atomeme in t2
You're absolutely bonkers, my lad.
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>>163634216
no up until they fix the game

>>163634227
Nice no card draw when the game has become longer and your legendaries aren't good enough to just drop them and auto win

>>163634258
Nice no argument
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I only run blader as 1 drop and 2 pompous princess (no avant bladers though). I haven't failed to fetch banner by turn 4 once in the last 10 games and the princesses are good because they put a storm follower on the field from the deck and give maid even more use when you already have a banner in hand.
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>>163634259
And therefore this bird was known as the one being memed to death
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>>163634393
>Nice no card draw when the game has become longer and your legendaries aren't good enough to just drop them and auto win

This is a loser's mentality. I plan to win my average game before we are both at 10pp and topdecking and wishing I had Avant Blader to recharge the batteries.
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>>163634150
>using Execution instead of Dance of Death
Stupid shitter.
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>>163634523
This is the average shitter mentality

>I should play muh waifu legendaries and auto win
the only reason those decks dont have avant blader is because of alwida and otohime filling the board
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>>163634393
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>>163634259
>he skipped 2 turns
>you had the nut draw and went first
haha oh wow
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>>163634639
o look another no arugment

a retard calls other retarded when he himself realizes he is incapable of evoking a rational thought
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>>163634446
>theorycrafting for a fucking unga deck
hilarious
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>>163634620
I don't run it because _______it's bad
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>>163634393
I'm starting to suspect this guy might be serious.
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>>163634617
>implying you can execute amulets with dod
d shitter confirmed
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Could I get a concede, please?
59243
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>>163634354
He's not so bad, won me 2 out of 4 games I won, once by getting him out on turn 4, once by just dropping him when we were in a topdeck war and received no answer
My fifth was against a sword taker of two that went second

>>163634703
He only skipped turn 1, and would have btfo my board but if I didnt go all in on atomy hoping he didnt have answer
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>>163634872
I HAVE GOEITA MAGE KIDDO.
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>>163634734
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>>163634872
>implying executing amulets is worth a dam in this meta
Nice job proving me right kid.
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>>163634734
>posts bait
>expects serious arguments
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How mad will /svg/ be when this guy floods ladder with another Haven deck?
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>>163634905
Sick tech against that fucking Forbidden Ritual.
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>>163635039
what does he do
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>>163634804
No you dont run it cause otogarbage an dalwilda fill the board so you don't have to use the cards in your hand

they give so much value you dont even need to play other cards

>>163634862
Im starting to suspect someone has been found out and doesn't know what to reply

>>163634953
>Post arguments
>retard post picture of master thing anyone can get if they play long enough
>ask for actual arguments
>retard has none
>retard insist on acting like a retard
>o wait he is actually retarded
>Retard acknowledges he is retarded but he still tries

fucking retards
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>>163635039
I think he's been seriously overlooked, his deck is going to be frustrating as hell to run up against.
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>>163635039
What card is that?
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>>163635039
DoD
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Remember friends to filter and report Nerffie posts.
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>>163635050
>>163635072
5PP
0/5 evolves to 0/5
Can't attack or be attacked.
Auto evolve at the start of your turn.
Evolved: Destroy all your amulets at the end of your turn.
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>>163635063
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He posts his shit in every thread.
Why are you even engaging him in a conversation?
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>>163635072
Idol of Madness, new Haven Leggo
Destroys all allied amulets on end of your turn
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>>163635050
>>163635072
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/card/eidolon-madness

>>163635085
Not so fast.
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I literally want to kill myself when I have to think of daily quests/login rewards and such.

How to I quit games with those shitty mechanics?
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>>163635152
O look he actually admits in a post he is retarded and that people have to deal with his retardation

thats not how the world works you retard
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why did these stupid japs not give us anything for christmas
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>>163635148
>>163635205
>>163635223
Looks shit.

Am I missing something?
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>>163635204
I mean, I'm literally just shitposting cute pictures.
I'm not going to engage in an actual argument with someone who is either baiting or is the magnum opus of all dumb motherfuckers.
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>>163635039
>skipping your evo turn
>playing a 0 tempo thing that gets removed by themis AND other removal
it's gonna be miserable in mirrors and I want it to be good but come on
it's satan tier
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>>163635042
He started emoting like crazy when I started putting more stuff on the board
Then was kinda silent when Atomy dropped
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>>163635362
Yeah, fuck those BM'ing assholes.
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>>163635063
>"c-calling people retards means I'm right!"
uhhh shadowbabs?
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>Lose a game because of my singleton Avant Blader fucking up my Maid Leader draw
>Think about removing her
>Win my next game because I draw Avant Blader in a grind game
Jeeeeeeez.
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>>163635042
>>163635362
kek

fuckign disgusting haven shitters
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>>163634898
Thanks, Kankokubro!
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>>163635303
Because Christmas in Japan is about having sex (no kidding, look it up) and they couldn't find anyone willing to have sex with you.
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>>163635331
Doesn't this make Hare of illusions viable? Also pure amulet Haven.
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>>163635230
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>>163635442
>Gets called out for being retarded and not posting a single argument
>They are calling me retarded (which you are) therefore i will keep posting no arguments
Fucking retard
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>>163635567
>japs
>having sex that isn't on cam for money
nice meme
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>>163635331
a bone thrown to Countdown Haven
Maybe it will crawl into low t2 with it
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>>163635039
well, if neither elana or aria get nerfed i wont be playing this game so not mad at all desu
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>>163635575
Is that the facial expression you have now? Literally hte face of a retard who is confused in his retardation
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>>163635572
>pure amulet haven
Yeah bro, just play amulets for 4 turns with a dead turn 5 drop while the opponent bashes your skull in. Foolproof strategy.
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>>163635608
It's the only day where couples actually do it while eating KFC, hence the terrible birthrate.
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>>163635442
>implying I was the first guy
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>>163635723
Kinda why the deck is like t4
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>date masamune

Explain this, shadowbabs. Why the fuck do I need a 7PP 5/5 with Rush and Bane?
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>>163635109
>>163635109
>>163635109
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>tfw love granblue and shingeki no bahamut designs but hate card games & mobage
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>>163635934
lmao granblue is the biggest trash I've ever played

fucking scam rates
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>Get perfect curve Banner against DShift, think for sure I'll win
>DShift player happens to have teched hard against aggro and has perfect answers
I've never seen a list with 3 Emmylou's and Angelic Barrage before.
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>>163635934
Platinum Games are making open world Granblue rpg.
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>>163636001
I heard about this. But I won't buy a ps4 for this
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>get to masters yesterday
>lose any motivation to grind
I guess I will aim for 5 free packs
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>>163635039
>>163635148
I don't think he's going to be great. Dies to removal. Also you won't be filling your board with only amulets and if that's the case you won't be able to make full use of him.
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>>163636097
How close to the 5 packs are you? Must have been some serious laddering this month if you are close to that.
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Post em
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>>163636097
I mean what would you grind for? I got to masters couple days ago myself and there's simply no way you get near the top 1k because it requires around 12k points right now.
I enjoy gate keeping people from getting there though.
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>>163636097
You could just take a break.
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Reminder to always let Dragoncucks think they've won before dealing the final blow
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>>163635875
They forgot Siegfried existed
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>>163636186
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Will this guy make Howl a 0 net shadow cost? Also seems good with Playful Necro
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>>163636261
You only BM haven or Rune retard.
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>>163636315
In a way, net +1 since Phantom Howl itself is a spell.
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>>163636261
>Elana Sleeve
>Bullying Dragonbros
Why are you such a faggot?
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>>163636315
+1. Problem is keeping him on the board for those plays.
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No freebies for christmas?
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>>163636315

+1 for casting howl

Still kinda hard to slot him in since we got Shambler and Shadow already has some solid 2-drops
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How many wins do I need to go infinite in take two?
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>>163636315
Free ghosts, but haven will definitely remove him as early as possible.
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>>163636302
>3150 crystals
>gayrena
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>>163636474

Not Christmas yet.
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>>163636315
Yes and yes. He also gives you 3 shadows with Voices.

It's great because if you manage to do that, you'll save your shadows for something else later, like zombie wall or Charon evo.
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>>163636474
Holiday sale was the freebie, ya jew
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>>163636515
4 wins.
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>>163636315
Yes but he also blocks the 5th ghost
Better with the new summon 2 ghosts card desu
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>>163636315
Sexton's real good, even if it isn't clear how his effect works. It's clear that his fanfare will persist on followers that get hit by it even after he dies, but we can't say for sure that it'll be the same for his secondary effect. E.g., if you play Sexton, then a Mordecai, then Sexton dies, then Mordecai gets banished, will Mordecai still be protected by Sexton? Even if in this case Mord would be banished Sexton is an extremely versatile card, and won't be just anti-haven if shadow becomes meta, since rune will be prevalent and people may even start teching Odin. With Phantom Howl, Playful Necro and Voices of Resentment this guy will net you way more shadow profits than Spartoi Sergeant in a midrange deck. Definitely going to swap out SS for this guy ASAP,.
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>>163634058

Bottom line is most nuetral legendaries are too general and gimmicky to synergise. buy some packs and dust those and make some fortes
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>>163636351
t. elf cuck
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>>163635457
glory to avant blader

she really holds the deck together
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>>163636315
>effect works like a ward instead of just fanfare like liza
its fucking shit
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>>163636565
>>163636620

>charon

It's sad, but the bae won't be relevant when Feena is around.

Not sure about Voices of Resentment, but that protection on even a carrot is what you need to ruin haven's day.
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>>163635875
They were aiming to make a 2 drop for Ramp's early game that can actually do something on its own mid-late game instead of being a dead draw without an evolve but they overcost it a bit. It's still not nearly as bad as people meme about (not unlike Dragon in general).
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*chu*

/svg/ you are the best
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>>163636674
>>163636793
It's pretty clear to me that it works as both a fanfare and an effect that is attached to any card that's played when sexton is in play.
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>>163636674

That buff will only apply to that one version of morde that is played when he's around. When both are removed, the next Morde will be vulnerable to banish.
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>Pegasus Sculpture
>Amulet 3pp
>Countdown (4)
>At the end of your turn, restore 1 defense to all allies.

Isn't this really good with Elena? Why does this exist?
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>>163636585
thanks, anon

harder than going infinite in cardstone
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>>163636883
Unless you change quests from "win x" to "play x" you can go fuck yourself.
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>>163636674
Ok, no confirmation but the effect on followers played with Sexton on the field should persist after Sexton leaves the field. In the case for Mord, if Sexton is still on the field after getting Mord banished, Mord should still receive the buff. If they're both banished at the same time or Sexton is removed before Mord is banished, the new Mord will not have the buff.
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>>163637020
>waste 3pp to do nothing for 4 turns unless you want to waste countdown reduction on it instead of just having a healing spell/follower instead
It's shit.
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>>163637020
No, because you lose a fuckton of tempo to put it down and waste a board slot in the process when you could easily just cycle through heals like Elana's always done instead.
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>>163636908
no, if you destroy (or banish) the card the effect is gone

besides the useless phantom howl play it is nothing but a ward against haven
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>>163636908
The thing is, there has to be a reason they'd separate how Sexton affects followers in play with his Fanfare and followers that come into play afterwards. Otherwise they could have very easily written his effect as "All allied followers will be destroyed instead when being banished." and made it a persistent Sexton aura, no Fanfare necessary at all. The way it reads right now with the Fanfare is that if you play Mordecai and then Sexton right after, That Mord will be immune to banish regardless of Sexton's future existence (obviously the mordecai that gets summoned from last words won't have the sexton effect afterwards).
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>>163637121
>every card is do nothing if you aren't immediately rewarded with it's effect
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>>163637020
>>163637135
I swear this general must be filled with retards from /hsg/ to think shit like this is actually good.
>niggas all flipping out over extremely worthless cards thinking they're any good in the first place
It happens all the goddamn time.
>>
>you will never scorch everything a scarlet red.
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>>163637239
I remember a shitter or two flipping out about Frog Cleric just because it healed. Fucking FROG CLERIC.
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>>163637234
Are you stupid or can you not read? I'd rather have an actual follower or spell with healing than that worthless amulet.
And yes, it does nothing and take up a board slot for 4 turns, just for 1 shitty healing trigger which you can get instantly from a follower/spell instead. Educate yourself faggot.
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>>163637239
I don't even think hearthstone players have anything to do with that, that game is mostly follower combat and it should teach you what tempo is one way or another.
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>>163637234

In a deck like Elana, yeah.

Elana shits out followers that have heals tied to them, so the sculpture is just kinda redundant when you could be playing an Angel/Rabbit/etc, or drawing cards with holy water
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I need a concede, will concede back if you need it.

Match ID: 59109
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>>163636539
But I did what you told me le happy businessman.
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>>163637418
Good concede for you
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Marry Christmas /svg/~
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>get to b0
>elana
>elana
>storm haven
>elana
>storm haven
well it was fun till it lasted. back to hearthstone. this game actually sucks.
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>>163637506
T-thanks anon.
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>>163637334
>play follower
>it doesn't have storm
>wow I did fucking nothing

That's how you retards sound with your "do nothing" analysis.
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Been spending around a week trying to build this deck and it just carried me through b1 in 4 hours, mid range shadow is WORTH IT!!!!
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>>163637550
Yeah go back to piratestone.
and get your pareidolia with you
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>>163637068
Have you tried getting good? Take less than 30min to do all the daily quest unless its the 7 rank win one.

If it was just play X, then people would just concede you fuxking idiot.
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>>163637234
No time for you, slugs
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>>163637608
Hope you're having fun, anon.
I want to play some mid (or any really) shadow when the expansion hits, hope it becomes more viable than it currently is.
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>>163637550
Why is it always B, /hsg/?
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>>163637608
Just wait till you meet your first Elana/Seraph deck.
It's literally unbeatable with Mid Shadow.
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>>163637334
It heals 4 times my duder, think Dire Bond. It would say Last Words if it healed once.
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>>163637568
Nice bait retard.
>play 3pp amulet it isn't even a follower, it has countdown 4 and it takes up a board slot
>wow I did fucking nothing
KYS D rank.
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>>163637782

ive killed lots of them by just going full aggro, its about 50/50
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>>163637779
It where the sandbagger are.
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>>163637782
Not really, a good Midrange with 4 PH/Cerb can get off to an aggro start and burst them down before the heals start piling. If the game lasts past turn 8, it's time to concede.
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>>163637796
Or you could just drop a follower or spell each turn with heal and get other effects at the same time.
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Say something nice about Monika!
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>>163637953
She is ADMIRable
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>>163637826
>play Elana
>it's a 3pp amulet it isn't even a follower, it doesn't even have a countdown and it takes up a board slot
>wow I did fucking nothing

Cards don't fucking exist by themselves moron.
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>Forte mirror
>Ignores 4/2 Mushu
>They drop and evo Forte to buff it again
>Mushu swings lethal on 6
I think we both won that game. Merry Christmas!
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>>163637953
Her outfit is super cool.
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>>163637953
Name sounds like a space NEET. Cute!
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>>163637953
short thick jojofu
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>>163637953
Would have been sweet in the current meta. We'll see how things fare come next month.
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>>163637953
She's super flat.
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>>163637929
It's a fucking shit amulet that's almost as bad as Front Lines, but that doesn't change that you're misinterpreting what it does.

That being said,

>>163638003
Pegasus is a fucking garbage amulet almost as bad as Front Lines, stop wasting your time trying to defend it. Save this shit for the next time people fling shit over Avant or something.
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>>163638003
>block up 2-3 slots on your board
>you lose tempo cause you played an amulet instead of a follower
>your followers are now all dead cause of tempo loss so your amulet buffs nothing
Real smart fucktard.
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>>163638095
>saying shit about frontlines
This card is actually useful
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>>163638141
Only when you drop it on turn 1 in T2.
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>>163638095
>but that doesn't change that you're misinterpreting what it does
It's still shit regardless for the reasons I already listed.
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>>163637953
>Monika
Is she a slav?
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>>163637656
>Have you tried getting good? Take less than 30min to do all the daily quest unless its the 7 rank win one.
Gitting gud doesn't cut into the equation when you get the shitties two classes, which get completely countered by the current meta.
>If it was just play X, then people would just concede you fuxking idiot.
Yeah, I'm the fucking idiot when you can't think of the simple condition of having to complete the game to make it count.
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>>163638195
I literally agreed that it was shit twice in the same post. What the fuck are you even responding to me with this post for?
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>>163638098
>tempo loss
>when Themis exists
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>>163637953
That coat covers a lot of her body.
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>>163638289
>complete the game

You mean win?
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>>163638296
Just reaffirming. Don't get so triggered everytime someone replies to you.
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>>163638304
>you do nothing but react for a whole turn
>your opponent has the tempo again unless you evolve
>which might not be enough if he played more than one creature
wew lad.
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>>163638296
Want someone to relief your stress?
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>>163638382
>I'm just pretending to be retarded
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>>163638304
>implying you'll always have it in your hand to save you when you play such a shitty card as pegasus sculpture
>oh then just don't play it until you have themis? good job your just got a dead card in your hand
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>>163638476
>relief
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>>163625091
>>163625539
>>163626113

So I'm the guy who made this angry post about Seraph at the beginning of the thread. But since you all insisted that I'm just another dumb Smorc who's angry that I can't faceroll people I decided to make a Seraph deck just to prove a point.

Anyways here's a pic of what a typical board has looked like against literally anyone except Runecraft and the few blood players who can outdraw me.

But you know it did feel good to start climbing again. I will ride this filthy deck to master unless they nerf it soon. So I guess thanks for helping me become part of the problem?

I still think it's an absolutely disgusting deck and playing it for myself only confirms this.
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>>163638337
not every card needs to be lewd
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>>163638581
He should have played around it desu
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>>163638581
>Blader
>loses
No surprises here.
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>>163638652

I'm kind of surprised but there are a lot of /a/ posts in this thread. I'm a longtime /a/ poster and first time /vg/ poster and after how much /a/ demonizes you guys I thought the hostility would go both ways.

But I guess /a/ memes are cool here?
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>>163638581
you're basically forced to make a haven deck if you want to get anywhere, don't sweat it
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>>163637953
MONIKA-SAN!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-SjRnNW3io
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>>163638476
Not the same guy but sure.
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>>163638581
Why didn't he just kill you on turn 4?
Why didn't he just played around your heals and huge followers I mean just remove them, it's easy. :^)
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>>163638678
>>163638757

He had me down to literally 1 hp on like turn six and the next turn I played two heals and he ran out of burst.

He had solid draws, turn 2 oathless, turn 3 ascetic, turn 4 floral and turn 6 alwidas but it didnt matter.
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>>163638759
>/a/ hivemind
>/vg/ hivemind
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>>163638581

honestly you're probably just in a low rank where people dont know how to play around haven. save your removals and go full aggro, dont put out all your followers though. it just takes experience. its still much harder to work around then most decks and op i agree but its not the egyptian god deck yall seem to think it is.
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>>163638825
>>163638759
I"m not the proper person to help in it but just cool down my lords
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>>163638503
Let me just afk until they concede xD.

I complete the game guys!!11
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>>163638581
>play against a baddie
>win
>this deck is op guise
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>>163638581
>Even the image quality has become cancer
W-what?
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>>163638890

>get lord of the flies
>get storm beetle with bane
>doesn't matter because lol seraph decks

Balanced Haven gameplay
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Where did that "Blader is bad" meme came from?
Is it the same guy who tries to force unga bunga on everyone?
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>>163638943
How can I cool down when you're showing that body to me?
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>>163638890
>Miofag
>Elanatumor
So much cancer condensed into one image
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>>163638759
>anime hearthstone
>there's so much anime here!
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>>163638987

>too dumb to have decent quality screencap
>not too dumb to play seraph

I'm winning guys
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>>163639023
As in Avant Blader? It's not a meme, it's truth.
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>>163639023
From some argument about putting blader into banner decks
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>2.5 hours later
>I still have a daily quest open
Fuck this game, I'm going to sleep.
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>>163638817
wtf why did she got flat on that card art?
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>>163638971

This is the reality of A3 man. How else am I supposed to climb?
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>>163639215
She was originally flat in RoB, GBF made her a tittymonster for some reason
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>>163639178
I can understand why Avant is poor in banner, since you want 100% consistency with Maids, but why is everyone saying Avant is horrible in midrange and shit?
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>>163639215
Granblue Monika is a cow. Bahamut Monkia is a pseudo loli.
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>>163639023
Avant should be fine in control but is too slow for mid-range and fucks up banner pulls from... banner. It's not a bad card but it is out of the meta and is probably not coming back once Albert arrives as another strong five PP drop.
Completely not a meme, sorry anon.
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>>163633747
Zirnitra is highly overlooked since Face Dragon is more popular, but I find her and ramp dragon to be so much fun. I just had this game and managed to flood the field by the time the opponent was at PP 7. Not the most consistent deck, but it feels so good when things go your way.
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>>163638918

I'm at A3. Trying to get master.
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>>163638901

You literally can't post a /vg/ image on /a/ even if it's basically an anime character without everyone foaming at the mouth and usually a mod deleting your post.
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>>163639061

I literally only picked this game up because of the anime girls.
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>>163639332
Because in Midrange it is absolutely essential that you set up for a strong turn 6 and 7, Fencer and Aurelia do that in different ways, refreshing your hand with an under-statted minion on one of the most vital turns on the board for your entire deck is shit.
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5 more days and I got like 5000 rupies saved as well. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
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>>163639410
>literally

Are you sure it was the image, and not your autism?
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>>163639309
>>163639340
I see, thanks anons.
I hope the evolved art gives her boobs for shits and giggles
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1 blader in a banner deck will win you more games than it loses
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>>163639364
>A3
well there you have it
enjoy getting wrecked by unga bunga and aggro blood that are rampant in that bracket though
your ride is going to end very soon and you will find some excuse to go back to aggro again
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>>163638918
>>163638971
>>163638987
i wonder which deck these dudes main :^)
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>>163639562
removing banner from your deck will win you more games than it loses
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>>163639585
stop posting, thanks
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>>163639309
Big monika is best monika
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>try to climb as shadow
>Elana/Seraph
>Elana/Seraph
>literally non stop haven
>switch to a Rune deck to specifically make these fuckers miserable
>get every fucking deck imaginable except Elana/Seraph
>switch back to shadow
>Elana/Seraph again

Why does this fucking game keep doing that?
I've played like 20+ matches with rune and only 1 fucking match up was Elana yet when I tried shadow before that I've got 7 Haven in a row.
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The number 1 ranked guy's stream that got linked is offline now.

I just had it on my second monitor and didn't pay that much attention, but his master points increased from 64k to 70k today and he had multiple ~10 win streaks.
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>>163639332
Turn 5 is for saber
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>>163639663
>Monika's qt friend when
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>>163639654
slit your wrists, thanks
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>>163639693
Yeah, he tweeted that he gained 6k MP. Was it mostly Midrange Sword today?
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>>163639664
Were you on a win streak? I have no proof, but I think matchmaking tends to place you against your deck's counters after a win streak.
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>>163638918
>play around Haven

I absolutely love this fucking meme you Haven shitters keep pushing. Can I hear how you're supposed to "play around it". Please enlighten me Elanacuck.

>just save your removal and take hits now because I might buff some dudes later :^)
>don't play all your followers and let me set up my amulets please :^)
>ok now you can go full aggro but only if I have Themis and a billion heals in hand :^)
>oh and you should run 3 copies of Odin for my Seraph too so it can occasionally fuck up your starting hand. Thanks :^)
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How many hours till it's Christmas in Japan? I assume they are late because I don't see any free packs yet.
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>>163639664
>try to climb as elana seraph
>rune
>rune
>rune
>aggro blood
>unga bunga
>aggro blood
>aggro blood
>rune
>FUCK YEAH SHADOW wait what is this why am I dead on turn fucking 6
>elana mirror where I go second and lose to seraph
and it doesn't get any better
RoB can't come soon enough
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>>163639498
That's the point. This game is full of anime, it shouldn't be any surprise that the thread is also filled with it.
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>>163639858
>the matchmaking actually analyzes your cards to match it in such a way that it fucks you
Yeah, nah.
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>>163638759
/vg/ isn't really a board with a coherent identity, it's a myriad of generals, that's why.
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>>163639846
Yeah the last few hours it was all Mid Sword.
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>>163639858
Dude, I'm playing fucking shadow, there are no win streaks.
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>>163639604
I'm not an autist, I play everything, I have one in each class.
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>>163639879
Just hit them in the face, ez
Haven has no early game after all :^
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>>163639894

Holy shit you retards.

Japan celebrates Christmas as an evening for couples to spend together, not as the western tradition of gift-giving and charity.

Fuck off.
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>>163639879
See haven? Go aggro. Wow that was hard.
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>>163640075
Stop being such a weeb c u c k
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So why do people complain about Rune policing game length when fucking PtPelf can pop their "late-game" wincon up by turn 6?
>"b-but you can interact with amulets!"
barely, and even then the damage is already done and all they need to do is drop more PtP/Roach your face in
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>>163639550

I don't post /vg/ images on /a/. I'm an /a/ poster.
Just came to /vg/ because of this waifu game.

You guys are pretty cool.
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>>163639785
Probably whenever they do a Granblue expansion. I think she is an original character.
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>>163640018
>aria into dogma
>turn 3 and your staring down a fucking 4/4 and a 2/1

I wish I had no early game like that
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I only need one more game as Banner to finish my fucking Sword daily, but I've been having awful luck for the last hour, holy fucking shit. It's not usually anywhere near this bad, but the game decided to fuck me today.

Hurry up and come out Rise.
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>>163638918
>save your removals and go full aggro, dont put out all your followers though

You just told him to do three different things at the same time. You CAN'T go "full aggro" AND hold back on spitting out your followers. That's called not playing aggressively.
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>>163639663

lolis >>> titty monsters
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>>163639585

I'm a noob. What does unga bunga mean?

Fortecraft?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Alrc98fQlc

One more time
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>>163640106

Stop being completely ignorant of cultures that you are presently interacting with, and in your case, making demands of.

Go find a nice length of rope to rest on.
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>>163640094
>banish
>2 for 1 removal
>storm bird of removal
>heal
>heal
>themis
>themis
>heal
>hit into face for 23 damage

And if you somehow manage to survive and clear all their board

>lol Seraph into 3 countdown reduction next turn
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>>163640235
It means "forced meme by the resident shitposter"
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>>163638759
This is essentially Weebstone, so of course /a/nons would relate to this. Now, try posting some game exclusive, not anime-ish thing on /a/ and they will spam >>>/v/ at you. Some retards don't tolerate anything at all, though.
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>>163639928

Makes sense. That also explains why /a/ hates generals so much.

My dirty secret is that I post in a general on /a/. Maybe that's why I gravitated over here.
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>>163640235

It means that someone is trying to force an unfunny meme.
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>>163639921

I'm just surprised /vg/ is so tolerant of anime at all.
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>>163640235
first you take the most basic class possible (dudecraft aka sword)
then you play a banner of command that gives +1 attack to their shitters
then you go face
that's unga bunga in 3 steps, you can now easily reach AA with enough games because your games wont last beyond turn 8 at which point you either win or run out of steam so you can play a hundred games a day
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>>163639879

This is why I made a Seraph deck.
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>>163640348

shoot yourself

/a/ generals are a cancer that has been fucking culled on multiple occasions, just to show up again a few years later
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>>163640256
>i watch japanese cartoon on Christmas and now im an expert in japan culture

Kys
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>>163638759
>/a/ demonizes
People who demonize /vg/ or want it gone have no idea what /vg/ is.
/vg/ has some of the best threads on 4chan but also some of the worst and people tend to know of just one side of it unless they are long time browsers.
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>get enemy elana cuck to 2 hp despite his attempts to come back in the game with his le epic heal spam
>drop an imp lancer
>do nothing but spam emotes until he concedes
this shit feels good
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>>163640535
Don't get down to their level.
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>>163640331

Yeah that's what I'm saying. The /a/ hivemind is ridiculous.
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>t6 win against elana brick deck
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>>163640469

This general deserves it.
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>>163640497

Notice I said "completely ignorant"

This is pretty basic shit, like understanding that the Irish and Scottish hate each other despite being the same thing or that India's caste system is so unbelievably fucked that it defies comprehension.

Ignorance isn't something to be proud of, twat, especially when that ignorance leads to you outing yourself as a goddamn retard in public.
>>
when I play haven, I let every turn time out.
its shadow's most effective strategy :^)
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>>163640367
>>163640272

There's always one.
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>>163640535

Seraph player, can confirm that I have nightmares about turn 6 Imp Lancer
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>>163640409
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>>163640691
>he didnt denial he is a fucking weeb

Haha
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>>163640535
Stop bullying Elana fags, it's not their fault their deck is cancer.
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>this is arena
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>>163640827
Why no one can sub this thing already?
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>>163638581
>It''s not like I w-wanted to win and h-have fun, b-baka.
Nigga just shut up and enjoy yourself damn.
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>>163640846

Why would I? I'm in fucking Shadowverse general

My favorite thing is when retards do something like play a mobage with big anime titties, then turn around and call someone else a weeb

That said, me being a weeb doesn't change the fact that you're a trog, my advice would be to find a cute iron barrel to pucker up for.
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>>163640409
Resident shitposter detected.
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>elana cuck starts emote spamming because he thinks hes outhealed my lethal
>top deck a razor claw and kill him next turn
retarded cunt :^)
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>>163640389
>I'm just surprised /vg/ is so tolerant of anime at all.
Japan has games. Those games are often in the same subculture as anime.

/vg/ is a board of isolated communities that usually don't suffer from a conflict of interests the way /svg/ gets /hsg/ and /tg/ being triggered by japanese culture shock.
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>>163641181
The possibilities are endless.
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>>163640130
She was in Bahamut.

http://rageofbahamut.wikia.com/wiki/Sky_Fighter_Lecia
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>>163641158
>le shitposting samefag boogeyman
careful, you might come off as a delusional retard
>>
Forget Spellboost Aggro, I'm going to play Burn Rune.
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who /notcancer/ here
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>>163641471
I see one game of haven, dismissed.
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Need help with a concede.

46226
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>>163641471
well aren't you a special snowflake
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>discovered a way to make matchmaking fail if i am matched versus haven
>never use it because i dont get butthurt about facing haven

plus constantly dcing would look super suspicious
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>>163641370

It's real cute that you want ungacraft to catch on, but if you keep pushing it, you're gonna sour the joke
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Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Haven Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Play Dudes And Go Face Like Nigga Just Stop Trading Haha
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>>163641471
Blood is cancer though.
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Why don't ramp decks run Ethica?
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>>163641531
thx m8
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>>163641637
>wasting evolves on shit stats
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>>163641637
because ramp decks don't exist
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>>163641471
Unga bunga eek ook.
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>tfw all you'll get out of the blood precon is an alt art and third mary
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>>163641574
are you retarded?
unga bunga is banner and banner alone
midrange and control can stay
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>>163641214

Thanks Vampy
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>>163641723
>>163639363
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>>163641831
i need those golds too, gonna buy two of them and make a control blood deck
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>>163641840
It's still a retarded meme that's not funny anymore. You overdid it.
>>
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/card/valkyries-spear

Did they make this card shit on purpose or what?
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>>163641723

Was ramp ever viable?
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>>163641574
He pretty much already did for me and I'm the one that started the shit.

>>163641840
It was meant to address the whole class because Sword is the most rudimentary class and is explosively effective despite how simple it is. I just got tired of people calling it "honest" and other dumb shit when Sword has dirty shit like every other class. People just have the mindset of "it's not combo so it's fair" because combo decks in general make people saltier than other things on average.
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>>163641471
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>>163642007
Ramp kicks my ass most of the time we meet up. (Midsword close to top 1000 masters).

Not sure how it fares overall though.
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>vs Elana
>miss lethal on purpose with apocalypse deck and act like I fucked up with the question emote
>he puts me at one
>kill him instantly next turn with top decked Din's and taunt
>he dc's

MERRY CHRISTMAS YA FILTHY ANIMAL
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>>163642012
>combo decks in general make people saltier than other things on average
what?
unga bunga takes no skill EXACTLY because it doesnt matter in what order or on what turn you play your shitters because you have a single objective: dump your shitters on board and hope they dont have removal
at least combo requires more than one card to reach the same bullshit levels and you cant be mad because he prepped those cards for several turns
>>163641971
nice strawman but unga bunga is mentioned 24/7 so your samefag theory is debunked
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>>163641471
>Tfw Shadow and Haven are the most fun and stylish classes in the game
I pity the fool that can't have a blast slapping people with birds.

>>163642080
Well Mid Sword thrives on creature value almost exclusively so I imagine when the enemy just starts dropping bigger dudes and and earlier than you can there's only so much you can do outside of situational removal. Also 9/11.
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why is dragonnewt charlotte flashing her dirty panties at me all the time?
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>>163642240
>forced meme
>it's fahnney guise
Naw, it's not.
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>>163642007
It was top tier during Standard.
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What's going on?
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Whoever tries to say that Shadow is good in T2 is a fucking liar

Shadow is garbage in constructed, garbage in T2, garbage everywhere and it will continue to be garbage for the forseeable future. Cygames should just remove the class as it's obvious that they fucking hate it.

>meanwhile Sword gets to have guaranteeed 5-0s because it's literally impossible for them to get bad drafts or bricks
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>>163642348
Poor foresight.
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>>163642240
>unga bunga takes no skill EXACTLY because it doesnt matter in what order or on what turn you play your shitters because you have a single objective: dump your shitters on board and hope they dont have removal
That's actually not entirely true. You know what deck that does describe though? Moreso than Banner Sword? Face Dragon.
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>>163642240
Oh btw I never said it was samefag, I said your meme was retarded. Learn to read nigger.
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>>163639717
Even if they don't have a board?
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>>163642401
Take your avatarfagging elsehwere
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>>163642394
i just went 4-1 with it earlier today, only game i lost was a constructed-tier elana's prayer deck

maybe you're just not good at playing shadow, anon
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FUCK YES I'M FINALLY OUT OF A-RANK

Now I can play whatever the fuck I want and test the new cards while sitting at 33000, without a care in the world if I win or lose
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>>163641471
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>>163642451
Well if they dont have a board you can still put saber since they will most likely either trade it with an evolve or use delance of death or similiar. If they put more than 3 fellowers you can drop another saber. If not you can drop otohime and use sage commander.
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>Three fucking Themises in a row
>Against Storm Haven
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>>163642568
>necromancy are just glorified fanfare that aren't even that good for how hard they are to pull off
>legendaries are complete shit besides Cerberus
>golds are complete shit besides Mordecai
>sword and dragon can just UNGA BUNGA through your board

Literally the ONLY good points that Shadow has are Cerberus and Mordecai, and by the time Mordecai comes out the game's usually already over.

Shadow has no fucking win conditions and no aggression, and since half of their cards are complete garbage it's really easy to get a complete shit draft that's a guaranteed 0-5 against somebody who isn't a complete mouthbreather.

Fucking Rune is better than shadow, at least they have removal and reach
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>>163642597
>AA
But that's not masters.
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>>163642801
>golds are complete shit besides Mordecai
Stop reading there
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whats the best site for decks?
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>>163642890
Better build up that 20 necro for Tyrant amirite :^)
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>>163642801
We don't even need to give arguments to this type of shitters.
Shadowcraft is not even the worst class right now.

Kys and use thd arrow to sau some implying fedora shit.
Grow up and learn to play the game
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>>163642394
>>163642801
You sure are mad

btw Shadow is one of the best classes in t2
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>>163642929
Wow, never seen Phantom Howl, Death's Breath or Foul Tempest in T2 before, bro?
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>>163642935
That guy is a stupid shitter but Shadow is totally the worst class right now. It's got the poorest performance both on ladder and in tournaments.

None of the classes, including Shadow are actually bad though.
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>>163642801
>>legendaries are complete shit besides Cerberus
Lord of the Flies is strong and Lord Atomy is entirely usable. Nepthys COULD be a thing, only time will tell.
>>golds are complete shit besides Mordecai
Mordecai is trash and Phantom Howl, Death's Breath, and Foul Tempest all exist. Honestly the fact that you think Mordecai is worth shit just kills any patience I had left and I'm not even going to bother replying further, fuck you.
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is angelic barrage really good against anyone but forest? I'm low ranked so I hardly see any forests and its usually just sitting there for me
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>>163642982
>>163643036
Weight King is good too guys, pls
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>>163643064
Good against bats and banners.
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>>163642946
>y-yes go play Shadowcraft, it's the best class!
>don't mind me, I'm gonna go roll Sword go 5-0 off of shadowshitters :^)

>>163643036
>inironically thinks Atomeme is good
>glorified Angelic Barrage is t-totally worth it!
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>>163643064
It's good against blood as well
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>>163643029
>worst class
Not and not, the only thing bad about the class is the haven counter overall is really good against all the aggro decks and things like control sword,aggro blood and dragon.
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>>163642929
>Phantom howl - good burst and clearance mechanic
>Foul tempest - Can clear otohime bodyguard
>Death Breath >3 wards for with 2/3 stats
Stop spouting stupid shit retard. The only thing that make shadow seems bad is because of the large number of haven players.
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>>163643128
hsg pls go and stay go
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>>163643128
Post your taker of two flair with the sword thing.

Sword in t2 is reliable for 3 wins but more than that is better GO with rune or forest
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>>163642312
Because she wants you play discard dragon anon. Now go build that deck and do it for her.
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>>163643310
anon...
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>>163643183
>j-just build up 6 shadows I swear your face won't get totally raped by then

Meanwhile unlike Sword Shadow's regular followers are also complete garbage and Shadow has the worst 4 drop evolve matters, Playful Necromancer is garbage

Shadow has bad followers and no win condition outside of fucking memes
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>>163643128
>THE SHITTER ADIMITS THST COME FROM /HSG/
We cant make it guy
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>Open Vindi's stream
>Discord group card reviews
>Some of them haven't even seen some cards on the set yet
Gross.
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I still have no idea why did they gave discard mechanic to dragon of all classes
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>>163643398
Did you forget that shadow have the best evolve 5 drop? A perfectly good card tha is almost best than Neptune alone?
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What's the best deck I can make with these?
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>>163643128
>Completely slam dunking the opponent's board is worth it
Yes, a 3 damage, one-sided board wipe for 3 mana is fucking savage.
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>>163643398
>Playful Necromancer is garbage

It's arguably better than Wardrobe Raider.
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>>163643523
A Lot of good thing but you can start making a aggro bat
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>>163643398
>Shadow's regular followers are also complete garbage
>Playful Necromancer is garbage
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>>163643523
By the time you can use 6 shadows on turn 6 your face is already getting raped because you can't put anything actually substantial on board

>>163643513
>gets removed
lol
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>>163643523
Make a midrange sword deck and dust stuff that's unrelated to sword. Easy climb to master.
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>>163643640
>>163643589
Don't waste your time with crybabys they think that they are the worst thing in the world and can't see good things about them
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>>163643640
oh shit a 6/5 for 4 that's totally better than Floral or Cudgel
>>
>>163643665
>le stick to one deck meme
>>
>>163643640
Compared it to cudgel/dragonwarrior/floral it's pretty bad though.
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>>163643640
I'm not a fan of Playful Necro personally but that guy is still retarded.
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>>163643310
you dont get her, dragons cucked again
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look this fucking shit card shadowcraft is so bad that need wards to surive past turn 6 we need to buff it guys i can't sleep well at night because of my tears
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>>163643748
But how am i supposed to hate the other classes then?
>>
>>163643728
>>163643765
>it's not as good as two broken cards so it's bad
lol
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>>163643765
>>163643809
Its still savage in Take Two tho
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Have face
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Deathly tyrant should cost 5 pp and only neeed 5 necromancy to be fair and balanced i need to cry to my shit class in this thread pls resbond
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>>163643850
>When you drop a boosted, Death's Breath, 2 Zombies survive the next turn, and you drop another boosted Death's Breath.
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>>163643850
>>163644000
Luna go away we're not giving you back to your ultimate cancer level
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Hold on.

Is the flavour of this card just that it collapses under too much weight, dropping a bunch of followers onto your enemy?
>>
>wake up
>Still no Christmas packs

Shadowverse was a mistake.
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>>163644000
>it's an EU shitposter
lmao
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>>163643850
>Demonic Storm
>Themis
>le cudgel man of seeing weaknesses
>any other AoE removal
toop
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>>163644074
its 3am in eu tho
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DEATHBRAND IS FUCKING WEEAK this can't target anything relevant pleasse cygaems make my class op like everyone oasjdoajsd
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>>163644096
>Loses to his counter
>Somehow this makes the entire class shit
stop
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>>163643850
Can't wait to wipe this out with the new Bloodcraft 2 drop.

The tears and salt will be delicious.
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>>163644180
>>163644000
You're right anon, Shadow is clearly the most OP class right now, on par with PtP Forest and Midrange Sword.

It's the terror of every tournament and every opponent ffs as soon as they see Burial Grounds on the field
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>>163643982
What card is in the middle?
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>>163644096
1 for 1 on their aoe spell? seems fine to me
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>>163644180
BLAAACK
ROOOCK
SHOOOO
TAAA
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>>163644180
They should just try playing tempo elf and midrange sword against control shadow that doesn't brick then they will know why haven actually did a great job to shut down these fuckers.
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>>163644297
HARDER ARMOR
STRONGER ARMOR
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Andra is a 9 drop do nothing why shadowcraft don't have a card that is like seraph i want a auto win deck with 50000000000% of chance to win. PLEASSE I'M JUST A SHITTER AND WANT TO BALANCE THE GAME FROM RANK Z3


WE should nerf all the haven card,sword cards to 1 pp 1 1 minions do nothing the game will be more interesting
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>>163644305
Except it's not 1 for 1 because you wasted resources (Shadows) to play that
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>>163644297
Evolved Steelclad Knight
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>>163644314
Goddammit
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>>163644327
>m-my class is good as long as this deck that isn't half bricks doesn't brick!
I bet you think dirtrune is T1
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>>163644403
>>163644403
>>163644403
new thread
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>>163644346
accurate depiction of a shadowshitter desu

just with 1000% samefagging
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>>163644361
Then dying refunds half of the Shadow cost dingus. At which point they'll probably be able to just drop another. It's not that big of a deal.
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>>163644361
And you get 4 of the 6 you paid back. Whats the problem?
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>>163644423
>5 posts early
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>>163644361
and the spell itself and the 3 zombies give 4 shadows back

2 shadows isn't that big of a deal
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>>163644361
Yeah the valuable resources of shadowcraft is litearally impossible to play cards since everyone have banish and my MORDECAI can't autowin everyting
>>163644279
It's nice how the how stats inbattlefly tourny show how rune and dragon win less than 40%
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>>163644346
>>163644180
>>163644000
t.Swordshitter angry that other people are complaining that their class is less powerful
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>>163643597
I'll give this a shot. Thanks.

>>163643646
Do you have a better idea on what deck I could possibly use? Pretty much still a noob to this.
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>>163644505
?????????????????
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>>163644490
It's still a net loss
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MADAME LICH IS SO UNDERPOWER she should give sotmr and more 10 attack to all followers too
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>>163642801
>>golds are complete shit besides Mordecai
you couldn't be more wrong, the classes best fucking deck doesn't use this card at all
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>>163644663
The fuck is wrong with you? Are you also going to complain how shit Front Lines is?
>>
>Nigger is this mad about shadow
How long until people complain about discard dragon?
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>>163644663
Madame Lich is actually pretty bad family
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>>163643398
>Worst 4 drop evo
Everyone forgets Rose Gardener
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>>163644895
Demonflame Mage is just as forgotten, but they have Merlin so who cares.
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>>163644663
Spok Nozomi is pretty useful in arena
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