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The Holiday Spirit, sorely lacking in a certain server - edition

*****NEW TO THE GAME?*****
Tell us your server and get a referral code from a fellow /wowsg/ to get extra bonus credits/flags/XP and two free premium ships (one instantly, one after you research a T6 ship).

>Mostly updated guide (Awaiting German DDs):
http://pastebin.com/mAat47Cb

>5.16 LIVE
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/update-notes-0516/

>2017 Preview
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/whatsinthebox/

>Christmas Missions for NA + New Year Medals
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/runningouttaholidaypuns/
http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/108298-christmas-hidden-achievements/

>Christmas Luckboxes (Chance for premiums or show love for your favourite /wowsg/)
https://santa.worldofwarships.com/en/#/
https://santa.worldofwarships.eu/en/#/

>Leaked info on new Premiums, including Musashi and Mutsu
https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2016/12/22/wows-tap-insider-news-22-xii-2016/

>Graf Spee and Tier 6 camo+ship missions (Missions are not for EU)
https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/bobbarkersfaveship/#santa
WG EU addresses the outrage: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/69278-where-are-the-christmas-convoy-missions/page__pid__1516981__st__840

>Statistic tracker - Stalk your favourite /wowsg/!:
http://warships.today
http://wows-numbers.com/
http://www.wowstats.org/
http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/index.html

>In-game chat channel:
NA Channel: Search for '/vg/' channel by Antibully_ranger
EU Channel: "Official /vg/ channel", password is "vidya"
SEA Channel: /vg/

>Clans
[BOTES] on NA Contact Precisionista Full At the moment
[BOTES] on SEA Contact Benisquare :DDD
[HOTEL] on EU Contact Rex1121

Last Thread: >>163484863
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First for Lebe!
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Second for why people are still playing EU
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>>163540405
Sunk cost.
It's a pain in the ass to regrind out all your ships again, and especially if you have a number of premiums you're not in a hurry to just abandon them.
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WHEN
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Fifth for
>EU
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6th for best tier
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>>163540621
Y- You guys kept going after I stopped? Damn.
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Player of the day: NA server
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>>163540234
>The Holiday Spirit, sorely lacking in a certain server - edition
FY, I gifted a container to someone
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some anon post a ref code and ill use that because i have just given up on eu, at this point i will only play eu if i want to use my list of prem ships.
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>>163540517
Bald Kamerad. Unless you're talking about Aquila, in which case never.
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>>163540405
>Second for why people are still playing EU
Don't want to lose the manly friendships I built up on EU
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>>163541157
https://playtogether.worldofwarships.com/invite/aMkW2zX
Have fun :^)
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>>163540134
Not for much longer if they keep this up. :^)
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Any anon plays on two servers with one game client?
I installed the mod from Aslain's pack but when I try to get on NA account I get:
The currently installed version of the game is older than that of the server. Please update the client.
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>>163541462
the NA and EU versions are different because NA has convoys which EU lacks you gotta wait till the next update or download a seperate client
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What would a German battlecruiser line look like?
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like graf spee, probably.

their whole BB line is like a battlecruiser. wich is a pity becayse shinyhorse is a excellent example of it
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>>163541215
Gib Zep. GIB.
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>>163540134
Nah, it is actually the most profitable.
Yes NA spends more per person.
But EU has a lot more of those persons.
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>>163541827
The CV rework and Graf Zep can't come soon enough.
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>>163541667
>shinyhorse is a excellent example of it
Battlecruisers are thin armor and big guns. Scharnhorst is the exact opposite.
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>>163541667
>be KM
>don't explode
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>>163541960
Battlecruisers trade off some of the qualities of BBs in exchange for increased speed. Scharnhorst trades guns.
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First container yesterday
Came from the $5 crate.
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>>163541960
I guess you can say German cruisers kind of fit that, their AP is amazing if it pens.
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Great day senpai, 100%WR. Excelent games =3
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>>163542308
Hope she serves you pham

Seems I had the best luck when it came to buying crates yesterday
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First $3 crate. And you guys said buying crates were bad.
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well after the mediocrity of t7-t9 i think it was worth it as my first t10, i love the ROF on this thing
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>>163542574
I swear that you either get complete shit, or Gremyashiy after Nickolay after Atago.
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>>163542581
>sub 200k damage
>no kraken, no HC, no clear sky, no double strike
>couldn't break 10k xp

U N I M P R E S S I V E
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>>163542645
I got another Lo. I can't tell if this is good or not.
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Tell us your story /wowsg/.
How do you feel as of lately? What are you doing for Christmas? What are your wishes and hopes for 2017?
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>>163542968
I hope a bote gf will finally be besides me when i wake up
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>>163542952
doublons?
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>>163542936
thank you for your constructive feedback, your points have been noted and will be worked on :^)
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>>163543060
8000. Nevermind it on the good side. No, Grem, Nick, or Atago though.
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>>163543127
Let me guess this is your third box or so?
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>>163542968
>What are your wishes and hopes for 2017?
To find a friend to play botes with.
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>>163543127
GGGGAAAAAAHHHH
;_;
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Urge to buy another 10 $3 boxes: rising.
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>>163543175
My 6th
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>>163542968
I'm spending my Christmas with /wowsg/ because I don't have family or anything around this year.
I think you guys are neat though so it could be worse.
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>>163543249
STAPH, know when to STAPH
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>>163543298
>I don't have family or anything around this year.
Any particular cause? Are you studying abroad and can't pay the ticket back to home or something?
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>>163542968
Bad. I spent way too much money on crates.

I'm going to hang out and drink on 4chan. The waifu collage every year is great.

To have a stress free year.
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>bet it all on Nikolai
>Get Gremy, An-chan, Sims, Zucchini and enough gold to buy Cutuzov and fat stacks of dragon, ESCL and PP flags

I want to be mad but I guess
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>>163543249
>bought seven boxes yesterday for 180 days premium, atlanta, the t4 jap bb and the murmansk
>urge to buy more: INTENSE

but I must stop, the game just isn't that fun to play
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>>163543249
DO IT.
>DO IT
DO IT.
>DO IT
DO IT.
>DO IT

Nikolai is calling.
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>>163543381
I-I just know there's a MK and a Tirpitz out there with my name on it! I want to free them from their SC prisons!

Is the SC drop rate different between the $1 and $3 crates?
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>>163543249
if you are EU, don't
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>>163543225
Maybe you should visit /wowsg/ chat more often.
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>>163543535
>Is the SC drop rate different between the $1 and $3 crates?
Yes. More gold drops in 1. Ships in 3. Flags in 5
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>can't play game anymore
>just stare at Tirpitz with a historically accurate flag mod and skin sitting in the pool of London dreaming of what could have been.
>Ignore the fact that this image is impossible because it clearly couldn't fit through tower bridge.
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>>163543712
Acquire motivation, Hans.
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Indianapolis and a bunch of fucking camo from 5x$3 boxes
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>>163543692
I lurk here a lot, just too much of a pussy to post. Also I'm shit at this game.
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>>163543712
Do u have au
Tism
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>>163543390
Only family is on the other side of the country to where I'm studying and I just can't make it there.
Although they're working over the entire holiday so I'd barely get to see them anyway.
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>>163543859
Don't worry anon, we all are.
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>>163540234
how the fuck do I complete the tier 1 missions for grapsee?

theres only 2 missions but I need 3 triangles
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>>163544063
You can redo them and get another pin.
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>>163544063
Anon....
You can repeat missions for pins just like in the regular campaigns.
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>>163543664
I'm in the most beloved server, anon.

>>163543698
Uh. The SCs only drop ships, not gold or flags.

It turns out that between the ships I've earned, bought, and unwrapped from crates, I've actually gotten all the "regular drops" from crates as far as ships go, so I'm only interested in SC chance right now. And if each crate has equal SC chance regardless of cost, then I might as well spam a bazillion $1 crates.

>>163544063
You're a baka, anon.
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>>163544114
>>163544112
the fucks the point of that? replaying the same missions but get no rewards?
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>>163544160
To get the pins?
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>>163544160
Is brilliant game design tovarish )()(())))((()
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Cum in my pussy deidogu aha ~
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>>163544389
There's really nothing wrong with it besides that it confuses some idiots. You get the luxury of picking your path to the end. Either take detours for sub-rewards, or just keep doing the two easiest missions for the bare minimum. It's leaps above the regular mission system.
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>>163544620
>deidogu
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I'm probably buy 10 $3 crates late night, hope that the bonanza continues and not to be a server "error" (NA)
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Is something wrong with the EU server? Log in isn't letting me connect.
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>>163544823
too many germans cucks buying camo crates
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Gonna buy 15 $1 crates and see what I get.
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>>163544684
When the task requires three medals and there's just two mission each worth a single medal, yes it's bad design.
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>>163544876
Last time germany uncucked itself 6 million people died, i would be careful with my wishes if i were you anon.
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>>163545130
>people
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>>163545229
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>>163543996
That sucks. Well then merry christmas anon. Bless you.
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>>163543859
>I'm shit at this game.
Are you 48% WR?
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15 $1 container later:
>60 New Year camos
Worth ???
>6 Ocean Soul camos x4
Worth ???
>50 Zulu Hotel flags x6
Worth $9.
>50 Papa Papa flags x2
Worth $4.
>300 doubloons x2
Worth ~$3.

No SC. I am disappoint.
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>>163543712
Third times the charm Fritz
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>>163546041
>No SC
Why would you want South Carolina from your box? It's shit
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>>163545130
>>163545229
>>163545612
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>>163545842
Thanks anon, I hope you have a great Christmas too.
Honestly though /wowsg/ is pretty comfy, especially over this holiday season, so if I'm going to be spending it with any group of anons from around the world I'm glad it's you guys.
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>>163546546
<3
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>>163546546
:3
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>enemy CV autopilots right down the middle of the map
>one of our BBs keeps giving us shit for not changing classes to give him a fair game
>enemy Montana willingly offers his broadside to our BBs because "at least I won't go out by torpedoes"
This should happen more often.
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>Arpeggio of Blue Steel ending THIS DECEMBER!
>the hunt for graf spee is NOW!
>it is your last chance to get a free cruiser that gender identifies itself as a battleship and as much as 4 kongous!
>and you can do both at the same time!
>kraut DDs are DDone for, dual nerf and no invisifire until tier 10, plus no good guns
>skill rework incoming, prepare your pork
>new xmas cheevos, get them while they are chilling!
>WG has at last placed boxes for sale, invest at your own discretion
>H A I F U R I starting january!
>kancolle might not be next
>Warship girls might get the spot
>this really is your last chance for a arppegio ship
>the weeaboo port is gone for good
what are you gonna do when your tsundere kongou decides to leave for good without even saying goodbye?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN5ex0BGxx8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HSBhwpeLcg
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>>163547435
>H A I F U R I starting january!
I-Is this real?
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>>163547435
>decides to leave for good
U W0T?
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>>163547435
>what are you gonna do when your tsundere kongou decides to leave for good without even saying goodbye?

Check the ARP ship box to see her again
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Lexington battlecruiser when?
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>a clan with many autists and shitters kicked F22xRaptor, a bigger autist and shitter
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>>163547583
confirmed on a dev QnA thingie

>>163547592
>>163547616
i already knew of that

>a year from now some newbie will be asking about a fucking blue glowship on tier 8 that could heal
>all we will do is laught at him and tell him how much we love our 4 kongous and myokos
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>>163543664
I agree, today got nothing but camos and flags.

No more on the big spends, just get the odd box or 2 if you need.
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>>163547769
Makes sense.
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should we have a secondary social clan for those not autistic enought to be on the [BOTES]

reply with intention to join it
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>>163547769
I thought you were over this Raptor?

Haven't been picked up by an Elite Unicum clan yet?
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>>163547435
>it is your last chance to get a free cruiser that gender identifies itself as a battleship and as much as 4 kongous!
I'm trying to figure out what you're trying to say here. Are you talking about the Tsundere Heavy Cruiser? When does she gender identify as a BB?
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>>163547879
Clans aren't active yet.
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>>163540372
cute boy
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>>163542968
>How do you feel as of lately?
I hate a week long Christmas vacation from work >What are you doing for Christmas?
Chilling with friends, going to SJW Wars in the cinema.
>What are your wishes and hopes for 2017?
I hope a comet wrecks the earth on January 1st. Some of you are all right, but I just don;t see the point of humanity/ human life
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Suppose Tone gets released, and it has the ability to manually control one or multiple fighter planes.

How well do you suppose the average pubby will do with it? Conversely, will it be absolutely OP in unicum hands?
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Reminder we should be thankful for what Raptor did.

>OJeezums teamkills him
>/wowsg/ blows it out of the water and Raptor gets 50 more viewers which only lasts 2 days
>Raptor invites them to 4chan and we get Arlios, Haruna and many more
>Arlios notices Eurobeat vids and Raptor webms of devastating strikes at close ranged cruisers and starts uploading it on Youtube with songs
>Arlios manages to be more autistic than Raptor in this regard
>Arlios sets up a stream and everyone from Raptor's stream migrates to the new autistic kid in the block
>Even Haruna aka Spammist abandons Raptor

Let's all thank Raptor for giving us Arlios because without him, he would never have found us in the first place! =3
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>>163548442
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>>163545035
>yes it's bad design.
What do you expect, it's WG ?
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>>163545035
It's not bad design because it's designed to slow you down on purpose to make the last-week free grind more difficult and tempt you into buying a Graf Spee bundle early.
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>>163545035
It's not bad design that they only give you two freebies along the way. They could have given you none and nobody would be complaining because then they'd be forced to realize you aren't doing this for the appetizers. Would you have been happier with just one mission, or is it better than they give the option of dumping exp bonuses on to prioritize the post-modifier task?
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>>163548442
I remember the stream. He told them to lurk in /vg/ chat for divs and to post in the "gen" if they wanted advice repeatedly to get the message across.
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>>163548902
>>163548982
how hard was it to double the xp requirement of one of the missions and make it give 2 pins and the same reward?
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>>163547764

>more napkins

Out
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>>163549058
Maybe they wanted to show people that you could repeat tasks for just the pins in campaigns, and this is a good way to make sure that everyone gets a practical demonstration.
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>5x3
>Nick and Germ


Fug.
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>>163549438
Now get to clubbing anon
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>>163549438
So many new Grems.
No chance in hell I am taking my fabulous Kongo anywhere from port
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>>163549438
>tfw no Grem

And I even like Gnevny
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>>163549438
>>163549594
>>163549665
>>163549780
KYS, Ivan
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>>163549780
Gnevny wasnt bad, just had to get used to the awful traverse
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>>163549872
Cyкa Блять
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>>163549901
Gnevny is a great ship. The moment an Omaha or Furutaka showed broadside to me in smoke it was a quick exit for them.
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http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/108433-german-destroyers-impressions-discussion-and-a-look-at-three-that-will-be-heavily-used/


Is he autistic?
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Never planned to get an Atlanta but the crate gave me one with a 10 point captain.

How do I kit her out?
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>>163550582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF3x0aeoPhc&t=160s
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Can someone teach me how to get good with T6 CVs on NA?

Preferably a good player, thanks.
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>>163550941
Best CV player NA here.

You shoot the ship until it dies.
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>>163550941
Be better at strafing than your opponent.
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>>163550582
Upgrades go with Main Armament 1, AA 2, Damage 1, and Steering Gears 2

Captain I use BFT, EM, SI, AFT, and CE since it's actually my New Orleans captain.

You can swap out DE with AFT if you want for extra fires but I've found range to be better for pestering retreating ships.
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>>163549116
Not him but we do have the Amagi, so I don't see why not.

That and let's have Akagi as a premium as well.
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>get my first regular supercontainer in months
neat
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>>163553476
Grats for superior Chinese technology.
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>>163547982
graf spee, wich the bong and most of wowsg believed it would be a BB for having the same gun caliber of shinyhorse
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>>163553476
Congrats, anon.
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>>163553749
'The Bong' said it would be either some kind of gimped T4 BB or a T5/6 CA .
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>>163553476
>T6 Gremy.

Meh you could have done worse. Shit's still fine at T6.
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Is the hydro on the Lo Yang good?
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>>163553749
I'm currently playing the Graf Spee and she's pretty good. She's like the Inverse of Scharnhorst - a CA with BB gun. Pretty fun and not as bad as everyone makes her out to be. The 6 guns are pretty accurate and are quite nice with their traverse and shell velocity. Armor is not nearly as bad as Nürnberg. The only downside to her is her fairly low speed which can be somewhat offset with speedflags.
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>>163554616
>a poorly kept benson that can push any DD off its own smoke with hydro
gee

i duno
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>>163554616
It's equivalent to that of non-KM T4s. Its window of usefulness is quite small.
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Is there a chance to get a Flint from these boxes?
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>>163554826
Nope.
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Iowa Best BB
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>>163541667
Scharn isn't a fucking battlecruiser, or a battleship. It's something else.
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>>163554751
Scharnhorst guns dont even feel weak, they're able to punish both baBBies and surprisingly even baDDies for huge amounts of damage, not to mention all those cits on CAs.
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Has anyone been able to get a Prinz from crates?

I'm just curious. I loved Hipper, but I'd like to have my Roon captain switch back and forth if possible.
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>>163555474
Yes. From a $5 crate, I think.
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>>163555428
Scharnhorst is a real panzerschiffe, unlike Graf Spee.
A BB that trades guns for speed while retaining excellent armour.
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>>163555537
Shit, probably should have waited to buy some crates beforehand. Bought the 3$ crates and got more fucking camo.

Oh well. Gambling's not for me. Especially since I don't have the funds. Thanks for the info.
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>>163554760
Well I see people shit on anything that isn't Kraut hydro or radar, which is why I was asking

>>163554782
Thanks
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>>163555463
Yea, in the Graf Spee I'm able to punch Bayerns and New Mexicos reliably. It's really fun to surprise them with your guns. The 16km range on her is also really good, you can reliably snipe at ~13km and lay the smack on CAs and BBs.
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>>163542269

But this is fucking wrong. Battlecruisers, as invented by the British, is a Cruiser (the first class of BC's started as Armored Cruisers) built with Battleship guns and approximately on battleship scale to allow at-sea endurance. It is *not* a battleship with the armor removed. They sound the same, but the impetuous is very different. The Scharn is 100% the opposite of a BC as it was designed as a battleship, with battleship armor and battleship guns, then DOWN gunned to add speed. If you want the logical conclusion/ultimate BC idea its the Graf Spee as it's very much a cruiser that just happens to have a battleship's guns bolted to it. But the divisions between ship types are not based on armor values or gun sizes, it's based on rolls. A Battleship is a ship designed to fight the enemy's capital ships and overwhelm them with guns and absorb damage with armor. A BC is designed to be fast enough to chase down enemy cruisers and commerce, and outrun enemy battleships, and have guns capable of totally outclassing the ships it's designed to fight.
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>>163555362
Don't forget her sister Missouri anon

Best Burger Sisters
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>>163555674
But its not tiny, you cant fit that in your pockets unless you wear cargo pants.
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>>163556172
Battlecruisers as conceived by anglos are not very effective; see Hood for example ;^)
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>>163556556
Can you fit a 325i in your palm tho?
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Who is your favorite /wowsg/ e-celebrity?
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>>163556764
F22xRaptor
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>>163556764
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>>163556172
Wikipedia says otherwise kiddo
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>>163556834
Who is Luger's babysitter on EU now?
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>>163556587

Battlecruisers in general were a flawed concept, Anglo or not, which is why by WWII, there were only a few Battle cruisers in service in the world, and none were built and the few that remained were almost all sunk by 1943 (Hood, 2 of the Kongo's, Repulse). Only the Renown and the Haruna, sorta, survived the war. It was a bad idea because it's original idea came before UBoats were thought of as a real weapon of war, and MOST of the aspects that the BC concept was designed to fill, Subs do better (and cheaper), and as such, when subs came about, BC's increasingly became used as Battleships, and we all know how that worked out. Battlecruisers are one of the most flawed ship concepts ever, as they brought little to the table, were as costly as better armed and armored battleships, and eventually were no faster, their key ability, then the Fast Battleships that didnt have as many trade offs.
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>>163556983
>Bringing personal shit/drama into the game

I thought you EU Elites were above this?

t. NA
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>>163557151
Trying to calm Luger's butthurt is like attempting to freeze hell.
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>>163556838

> The first battlecruisers were designed in the United Kingdom in the first decade of the century, as a development of the armoured cruiser, at the same time as the dreadnought succeeded the pre-dreadnought battleship. The goal of the design was to outrun any ship with similar armament, and chase down any ship with lesser armament; they were intended to hunt down slower, older armoured cruisers and destroy them with heavy gunfire while avoiding combat with the more powerful but slower battleships. However, as more and more battlecruisers were built, they were increasingly used alongside the better-protected battleships.

The second sentence on the article disagrees with you. Pre-Dreadnoughts -> To Dreadnoughts, Armored Cruisers -> To Battlecruisers, not Battleships -> Battlecruisers.
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>>163555474
Got mine off a $3 crate.
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Should I stream myself opening 30 $3 crates?
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jake pls gib 3 dollar crate ;_;
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>>163557409
i also got nothing but im not complaining because im rocking 300+ days of premium

still want a grem. just wont spend money on it.
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>>163557373

Just tell us what you get, we'd like to know the odds.
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:thinking:
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>>163557941
really makes u fink
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>>163557941

Tactical radius and rudder turn rate are not the same thing if that's what youre wondering.
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>>163557941
It's outrageous, same with how big your circle gets after you fire. I think people thought German DDs were better than Soviet DDs and so WG nerfed them. Can't beat Russia.
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>>163557073
Ironically, the HSF's response to the British battlecruisers (what they termed 'grand cruisers') turned out to work rather well in their intended role.

They would've been just as obsolete by WW2 if they hadn't all been scuttled in 1919, of course.
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>>163557507
>tfw 450+ days of prem

Looks like I'm in this hell for awhile longer
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>>163558286

Not that well. They still took disproportionate damage compared to Battleships in the HSF. Yes they had better armor than Anglo counterparts, but they still didn't have enough. Put another way, in game terms, they took fewer cit hits, but alot of normal pens instead.
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>>163558175
WG is just loves knee-jerk nerfs to German vwhicles for 'balance reasons', which will then be half-assedly repealed after the whole line has a WR of 43% for half a year.
At the same time, Soviet vehicles are allowed to overperform continously in the name of 'historical accuracy'.

Just look at WoT. It'S hilarious and sad at the same time.
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>>163558694
Not surprising
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>>163558694
Because the battleships of the HSF were never in contact for anywhere NEAR the amount of time as the battlecruisers.
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>>163558846

Its not even just that, they idea of sacrificing armor or guns for that matter in a line of battle is not a good idea. Again, the BC's of the HSF were not supposed to face ENemy battleships EITHER, as they were really just trying to get a few Anglo ships off guard. That's why when the BC action was over, and the GF's Battleships came in the action (and crossed the T not once, but twice), the HSF were immediately put on the defensive.
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>>163557151
EU old guard is a bunch of players most of which are not in the Discord; all started to play together before Ohjizzinmymum TK'd that retard.
They are nice guys and divving with them is a pleasure, and while we often talk about political or personal issues, everybody is really polite, cool, fun and chill AF.
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>>163558832
And now we're getting another Russian DD line that will likely out preform all the other destroyers.
Watch this split actually be good while the IJN split sucked.
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>>163559176
So when y'all coming over to NA after WG EU's latest fuckup?
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When the fuck is the admiral hipper getting a heal?
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>>163559634
Not that anon but I already created an account on which I'm probably gonna go down the line I didn't went on EU.
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>>163559645
never

printz eugen, on the other hand, is overdue to a buff for a while
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>>163559769
Is there enough of a difference between them to justify giving one a heal but not the other?
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>>163557941
What's wrong with yours?
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>>163559974
>no propulsion upgrade on DDs

kys
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>>163559968
Compare Mogami and Atago and answer that yourself.
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>>163559968
doubloooooooooons

why the hell would atago get heal but mogami or myoko not?
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>>163558694
>Not that well. They still took disproportionate damage compared to Battleships in the HSF. Yes they had better armor than Anglo counterparts, but they still didn't have enough.
The German BCs (yeah yeah, I know, Große Kreuzer) had roughly the same amount of protection as the battleships.

Given the amount of firepower they faced, it's amazing that they survived at all.
They formed the van of the German line, when they performed their actual job: Driving off the British BCs.
Andthen they traded shots with the 5th Battle Squadron, and didn't just roll over and die.
That alone is incredible, the 5th BS was like the silver bullet of naval combat at that time, the only squadron of actual superdreadnoughts with 15" guns.
After that, they sailed into the deployed line of battle of the Grand Fleet. Twice.

And the result? They had to scuttle Lützow because she had taken on so much water forward that her screws were no longer submerged. Note that she wasn't even sinking, she couldn't move anymore and the increased draught forward meant she couldn't get into a port anyway.

>Put another way, in game terms, they took fewer cit hits, but alot of normal pens instead.
Yes.

The simple fact that they did not all die still shows that this type of ship was conceptually better than the Fisher-style battlecruiser.
Becasue those tended to do exactly that in the very same conditions, and they proved utterly incable of their intended role of 'doubling' on the van of the German line.
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>>163559634
I personally dont really care for that, although i think it's quite embarassing and stupid on WG end to have unaligned management teams for different regions.
I'd rather have an ALIVE server at the hours i play and good ping, i couldn't care the less about a couple more free goodies, but that's just me.
Also NA playerbase doesn't seem to really fit my mood or character.
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>>163559735
If you do the Santa convoy missions, you her a head start on a few lines.
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>>163560117
I prefer agility over sprinting.
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>>163560134
Theres a good amount of difference between the Mogami and Atagoy, primarily them being different classes, whereas the Gipper and Prinz are the same class.
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>>163560256
>Mogami and Atagoy, primarily them being different classes
Not if WG has anything to say about it.
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>>163560253
Well then, post your IGN so we can all see your amazing survival rate!
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>discount on buying ships 1-7
>no discount on 8-10
goddammit WG
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>>163557941
>Each shaft drove a three-bladed screw propeller that was 3.94 m (12.9 ft) in diameter. They suffered from severe cavitation at speed. The single semi-balanced rudder was chosen to reduce high speed resistance. It had an area of only 14.95 square metres (160.9 sq ft) and was moved by a weak steam-driven servomotor. On trials, the turning circle was measured at 800–850 metres (870–930 yd) at 25 knots (46 km/h; 29 mph). In service it took 25–30 seconds to turn the rudder to its maximum 32° at speed and the ship's turning circle was approximately double that demonstrated on trials. The ships were so unhandy that the captain of the Volta cautioned in his log that "great care was needed when operating in company with the battleship Strasbourg, because the latter ship was far more maneuverable."[5]
t. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mogador-class_destroyer
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>>163560512
Fantasque class when? Having a French Speedslut would be nice.
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>British Cruisers failed
>IJN DD split failed
>German DDs failed
Why keep giving them chances?
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>>163560884
Soviet cold war DD line will be perfect
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How much does the Atago and Tirpitz cost in doubloons
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>>163560256
>>163560329
Heal should be standard on every cruiser starting from T8, just let RN and Atago have a more effective healpot or more charges.
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>>163560985
check in the fucking client, lazy ass
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>>163561509
I already have those ships, fucking mouthbreathing retard.
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>>163561530
use the google then, lazy ass turd
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The detection bloom after firing for KSN DDs is to fight invisifiring.
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>>163560985
Atago 10.5k
Tirpitz 13 k
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Sup SEAmonkeys, apparently Eurobeat has started a giveaway event for Christmas. Simply shitpost in this video's comment section and win yourself 300 doubloons)))))))))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQXS4nzcaCc
Also
>"All you have to do is to post your best wishes for Christmas down on my video comment section linked above, and I will personally choose the winner after the event ends."
>Shekels
How long is it until this vid got shut down by Wargaming
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>>163560884
british cruisers are fine

IJN DDs were never good and solely relied on gimmicks

Lebrecht ass is the top 4 ship in the game atm.
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>>163561914
>Lebrecht's rudder and turning radius same as Moskva
>it's the top 4 ship in the game u guize!!!
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How is the Moskva balanced so that it having 15 to 20k more HP than its peers makes sense?
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>>163560884
British CAs fit a niche and are pretty good against DDs and very effective in some situations, especially at medium range in island cluttered maps.

Japanese DDs need a serious rework, the two lines need to be more focused on their alleged main strenght.

German DDs are by far the least inspired addition, but if they werent nerfed before launch they would have been cool.
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>>163562009
Please don't take my word for it and look it up yourself.

It's the second best DD in the game right after a......wait for it...... IJN DD
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>>163562037
historical accuracy
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>>163562037
Very big target tovarish)))
Lots of displacement))))))
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>>163561798
You could have told me from the start, instead of writing all that bullshit, thanks for nothing.
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>>163562037
She has worst side armor protection
Giant Citadel((((((
It's balanse comrade)))))))))))))
nevermind the fact that it can bow in bounce Yamato AP shells((((((((
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>>163562356
how, the bow is only 25mm thick
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>you will never be gifted presents
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>>163562351
That was my first and only respone to your post, what is your problem?
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>>163560884
>>British Cruisers failed
>>IJN DD split failed
?

>>163562351
Not him, but you sound like a complete faggot. Google this shit yourself next time, asshole.
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>>163561808
>Being this retarded
https://worldofwarships.asia/en/news/contests/christmas-giveaway-community-contributor-event/
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>>163562541
Go away troll, all you're doing is showing how retarded you are.
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>>163562356
>>163562486
This, people praise Moskva armor but the few i meet don't seem sturdy at all, DM is much better at bow bouncing.
Either all the Moskva i meet are bad players or it's simply an overrated shitty battlecruiser armor wise.
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>>163562928
Fasd post lewds of motel gettin impregnated
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>>163563007
Pls do not lewd the Hotel.
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>>163563007
No.
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>>163562928
>There are tiny notes on her rangefinder radar

QT
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>That one ship that always pulls off a fun game for you

Murdering Angel Gneisnau-chan for me. What's yours, QTs?
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>>163562928
>That retarded left hand thumb.
How an one make a good image and fuck it up with one mistake.
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>>163563163
ibuki is a gud girl that is absolutely vanilla and takes abuse from me on a regular base
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>>163563163
The 2nd best BB. She's just always so comfy no matter what.
Alternatively; Zao, who is also great.

>tfw rarely have fun in my favorite bote ;_;
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>>163563224
>ibuki
>absolutely vanilla
No, she is not. She does ALL the kinky things.
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>>163563163
Bismarck or Freddy.
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>>163563163
>>That one ship that always pulls off a fun game for you
Immoral Sniper Zuiho-chan
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>>163562769
You come here to be spoonfed, actually get spoonfed, and then complain?

You should probably stay on reddit.
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>>163563116
>>163563209
>be hotel
>anons show much interest
>anons look very closely at every part of me

T-thanks i guess!
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>>163563439
>Bullying noob DDs with Zuiho-chan

I know that guilty feel, anon.
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>>163563209
thumb is anatomically correct, it's just pointed towards the viewer.
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>>163563163
Iowa always gives me joy when I take her out.
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>>163563960
The thumb is fucked up, it's too short and stubby, it looks like clubbed thumb. Look at the other one in comparison, you can't even explain that with bad shading. And don't come out with the perspective, use your own hand and see how it looks from that angle.
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>>163562190
>>163562037
>>163562260
>>163562356
>>163562486
>>163562871
when will the Moskva reclassified as a Battleship
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>>163562928
Literally the QTest.
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Ugh I've already played Farragut, Ognevoi and Hatsuharu so I'm technically a reroll on the Anust Gayde but it's a fun ship if you yolo torp baBBies.
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>>163564249
When we get Alaska and Moetel B65 as tier X CAs ie. fucking never
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>>163564515
Don't give up hope. Graf Spee being a cruiser is the foot in the door we needed! Moetel soon, friend.
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>>163564601
>Graf Spee being a cruiser
Dunk and Scharn beat Graf to the battlecruiser line.
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Hey, I saw one.
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>>163564515
I want Alaska much more then I want the Motel tbqh

Alaska in the tech tree and Guam as a prem
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>>163564756
I saw one in my last match as well. And it was a competent player too. Still lost because of retards though.
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>>163564679
Graf is a foot in the "big-guns-can-be-cruisers-too!" door, I mean.
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>>163564846
Mine got 2nd place and we w on. He was pretty good.
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>>163564756
Absolutely rekted one last night in my Scharnhorst
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>>163563830
>noob
Don't use that word. Even experienced players are in a catch 22. They have to constantly keep turning or take my big fat shell right across the bow.
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>>163563538
They're here for the special after-show performance.
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>>163564238
It looks almost exactly the same

with the minor difference of the knuckle where my finger bends sticks out more than in the picture.
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>>163564756
I killed one in my last battle of the night. Blew up pretty nicely to my Gneisnau's 380mm rape cannons when he turned to torp me.
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That feel.
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>>163564881
But Kongou is a pocket battleship.
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>>163564679
Yeah, but Graf got classed as a cruiser at a point in her life, unlike Dunk or Scharn, and WG seems to be happy to put her in as a cruiser despite her gun size.
The Japs classified the Moetel as a cruiser too, so it's possible that she'd end up as a cruiser instead of a BB if she ever gets put in.
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>There are people buying Graf Spees
I guess after all the Missouris I've seen it's not surprising.
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>>163564960
A good DD player can avoid getting deleted by a two squad drop. At tier V a lot of retards don't even notice the planes coming.
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>>163565030
>Have both unlocked
>Not even enough credits for one atm

Feels bad
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I don't have Graf yet, but
>slower, less-armed, less-armored, worse-ranged Scharn
How to play her? My usual way of playing Scharn (i.e. tanking at medium-long range and then brawling when the opportunity presents itself) seems like it'd be suicide.
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>>163565030
That feel what? Don't free XP entire tech lines you mouthbreather.
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>>163565782
like any German CA, stay at range and deal 10k salvos to any ship that shows broadside
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>>163565841
>Don't free XP entire tech lines you mouthbreather.
I didn't but tier x isn't fun. I removed my commanders and put them back on Iowa and Fred because that's more fun than Tier X.
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>>163565001
Now I'm starting to believe you're being purposefully obtuse just to rile me up. 1000 hours in paint etc.
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>>163566132
Stop breathing through your mouth please.
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I want to start a Wrong Things NeoRussia Says Journal:
>Mikasa is overpowered
>Hipper is better than Atago
>a GK can do nothing to win against a Yamato
I forgot a bunch of others. Please feel free to contribute.
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Why are there anime girls designed with personas of ships

this is a brony-tier inject-your-cancerous-interest-into-everything type of autism

Like why can't they just be ships
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>>163565782
>slower, less-armed, less-armored, worse-ranged Scharn
It's the exact opposite of the Scharnhorst in almost every regard. I guess it'll take a few weeks for people to stop assuming it's Scharnhorst-lite.
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>>163566346
Ships have been female since the dawn of time. Some of these ships had dedicated pinup girls during the war. Go call a WW2 vet a brony for associating his death machine with a hot girl.
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>>163566346
Someone post the Nip paper from the 1900s with the botegrill
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>>163565782
>How to play her?
The best way to play ships like that would be in a game that gave a role to commerce raiders.
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>>163566504
Yea I bet they had anime girls all over the inside of the Iowa
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>>163566346
boats are girls not horses you normie
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>>163566346
>Why are there anime girls designed with personas of ships
It is traditional to do this in Japan.
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>>163566781
The only difference between anime girls and this girl is artistic style.
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>>163566346
DDs are little girls.
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>>163566205
>Bismarck is the best t8 battleship
>Atago with torpedo armament expertise is good because it can stealth torp
>German DDs is good
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>>163566945
Then why are some of the Kageros so fucking sexual?
>Urakaze
>Yaggy
>Storm

>Select all squares with street signs.
Will you fucking fuck off?
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>>163566346
>not liking both botes and cute botegrills
baka desu senpai
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>>163566860
>>163566781

A day in the life of a sailor aboard the USS Drum
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>>163567120
There needs to be more botegrills.
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>>163566860
except that isn't a sexualized version of an inanimate object
and sailors wouldn't go around arguing about who had the better sexualized inanimate object

there's a difference between having posters of girls and sexualizing something that isn't sexual

like just enjoy the boats for their technical, engineering and historical feats. not everything need huge tits and anime eyes to be interesting
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>>163567684
>and sailors wouldn't go around arguing about who had the better sexualized inanimate object
Unless you are a WWII navy vet I doubt you know this.
>>
Quite (somewhat) unimpressed with German DDs and their parachute guns so far

But I'm only at the tier 3
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What does a nigga gotta do for 5k doubloons?
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>>163567684
Uhm, first of all, shitlord, you have no right to call them girls, you do not know as which gender, if any, did they identify as. Second of all, it's up to a person to decide what is and what is not sexual. And lastly you should think before you post, your white privilege is showing and I would prefer if it would stop encroaching on my space.
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>>163567782
>you have to be there to know something happened

How do you know these ships even existed then unless you've been on them?
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>>163568014
Buy Santa presents :^)

>>163568076
Putting that Gender Studies to use are we Raptor?
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>tfw a bunch of friends gave me $1 crates today and I'm too cheap to gift one back

It's $1.. I can't throw that shit away at virtual pixels.
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Guess the ship.
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>>163567684
Sexualizing and sexualization is purely subjective. You can't sit there and tell me those sailors didn't jack off to those pictures.

I like botes and I like huge tits and anime eyes.

Why not have both?
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Hello /wowsg/ I am happy to announce my first release of my shitpost generator to the public, now known as the Shitpost Paster! Because I love you guys I decided to release it to /wowsg/ first, and not can it generate shitposts on 4chan, it can be used anywhere where you can paste text, including in game!

You can download it here, along with instructions on how to install and use.

https://github.com/robotnikthingy/shitpost-paster

if you like it and want to show thanks, feel free to buy me a Dunkek or some crates

Merry christmas /wowsg/ and happy shitposting!
~robotnikman

i dont think its underrated, i just think that its a big lumbering target when I didn't knew about Hitler's Birthday Guns Perhaps there will be updated early next week working in a fast bote do ok who the fuck Plus the enemy BBs actually coordinate we've gone over this, the tech tree like atago/atlanta by June ish raptor i know ur here fgtlets do a new account Lmao, nice citadel not very good, especially now that WG changed the MM so she's just going to need some major rebalancing There's just not very lucky You're not allowed to play IJN gunbotes manual secondaries Grinding Bisk Too many cruisers are around, and makes the enemy flank thins out, you're supposed to play IJN gunbotes Add SEA plz ok 6km uh, ok dude Boring how gt 980 or gtx 980 If your a girl, then liking dicks is your autism How to git gud at DDs Now take a step further and change the general voiceover to the whole time Damn, i'm good Always read the previous thread too if you play literally anything other than it being called the best brawlers but germany is a degenerate weeb Why ask when it's done even if he doesnt play the DD, you also control friendly CAs right grinding Nagato because you carry hard better = lower number Skill™ and Statpad™ will be updating the list destroyers and cruisers Until you queue for a common cause due to immense shitposting and false flagging others here, Benis
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>>163568312
Amagi?
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>>163568312
Colorado
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>>163568312
Vasa
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>>163560139
Because Myoko is T7?

>>163561914
>Drawing implications from pre-release stats

>>163564756
I saw plenty tonight on EU. Stuff like that makes me lose hope.
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>>163567946
nearly every youtuber apologized because the kraut DDs got double nerfed

just avoid them and wait for ))))) cold war line
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How did our team lose this hard? All our DDs were dead within 7 minutes, without a single DD casualty on the red team. I also think their Saipan targeted me exclusively, but he didn't land a single hit.
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Gneisenau makes me happy!
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>French BB line still not announced
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>>163568667
The sight of the German Battlecruiser/Battleship that possesses fast speed and torpedo armament brings me immense joy.
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>match starts
>fortress is already shooting at me
>enemy Yamato already has his guns on me
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>>163568678

>still no Italian ships at all
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>>163568312
Dunkerque.
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So I just got into this game but-

Did Wargaming REALLY make the Atago instead of the Takao, despite the Takao being the flagship of it's series, JUST so they could include the Takao as a weeb bait neon blue ship?
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>>163569174
WG is greedy as a motherfucker and does not give a single fuck about historical accuracy unless it benefits Russian lines.
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>>163568449
>>163568482
>>163569025
>>163568515

Incorrect.
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>>163569174
She originally WAS the Takao, her model is actually a Takao model, but for whatever reason during alpha/CBT they just changed it and called it the Atago instead.
Although it makes sense as she's the Premium, they seem to like putting the lead ship as the tech tree ship, so I suspect it's because they're planning to have her in the tech tree at some point. I doubt the ARP stuff had anything to do with it.
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>>163569174
Yes, that's why the Kongo and the Myoko aren't in the game.
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>>163569485
""""""""Anon"""""" pls.
You should have just gone with it, we weren't going to bully you.
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>>163569095
>>163569485
Lmao, everyone seen that, bub.
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>>163569485
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>>163569802

delete this
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>>163565204
THATS JUST SO FUCKING CUTE
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>>163562928
>>163563108
>>163564319
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>>163569607
>>163569626
>>163569802

I should have known deleting it would have just made it worse
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>>163568431
Jesus christ please no. /wowsg/ already has enough shitposting as it is.
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>>163569989
>tfw no tall Yamato gf
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>>163570135
>tfw no nice Hotel to spend Christmas with
;_;
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>>163569510

That doesn't even make sense since the resources for the Takao have been in the game for over two years now. Switching the fairly well known Takao for the 'literally who' Atago just doesn't make a lot of sense.
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>>163568219
You can throw it away at kindness towards your friends, anon. You're not buying a box. You're buying friendship :^)
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>>163557236
>By 1911 Germany had built battlecruisers of her own, and the superiority of the British ships could no longer be assured. Moreover, the German Navy did not share Fisher's view of the battlecruiser. In contrast to the British focus on increasing speed and firepower, Germany progressively improved the armour and staying power of their ships to better the British battlecruisers.[51] Von der Tann, begun in 1908 and completed in 1910, carried eight 11.1-inch guns, but with 11.1-inch (283 mm) armour she was far better protected than the Invincibles…
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>>163570132
I promised a release a few months ago so might as well follow through with my promise. Also iit will be fun to use in game
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>>163570248
It does though.
For whatever reason they didn't want her in the first version of the CA line, but they probably wanted her in case of some other line or expansion, so therefore they took the Takao model they already had, called it the Atago (so they could still call the tech tree version the Takao in the future) and sold her as a premium.
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>it's a "your team is a bunch of autists and snipe at max range when you already outnumber the enemy"
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>>163570080
It's ok, anon, we're all friends here, except for raptor, fuck raptor.
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>>163570190
>tfw you are spending christmas in a hotel

It's not the Yamato Inn but I can dream dammit
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>>163570431

But then they never did anything with her except to release her as something that should be decorating the walls of a German night club.
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>>163569802

>he actually deleted it

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>163570550
emphatically this
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>>163570550
this tbqh.
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>>163570550
Unironically this.
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>>163570550

desu one of the first things I saw that was /wowsg/ related was raptor getting his shit pushed in
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>>163570818
which time?
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>>163570876
Everytime
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>>163570407
>Naming your battlecruiser class
>The class known for trading armor protection for speed
>invincible
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>>163570876

iirc he was bragging about how he was going to kick someone's ass then got murdered humiliatingly

that doesn't really narrow it down I know
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>>163570928
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And "people" from here unironically throw a fit of autistic rage when you tell them lemming train is shit.
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>have a spare acceleration upgrade lying around
>mount it on a BB to try it out
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>>163571418
>Hiding your name
We are all friends here anon
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>>163571418
>Hides name
>Posts a shitty score screen
>Acts all smug about it
???
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>ABQY
Fisher will defend this
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Aside tiering, is there any difference between Gremyaschy and Anshan?
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>>163571804
One can train captains for a line and the other can't.
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>>163571804
http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Gremyashchy
http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Anshan
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>>163571691

Did the Arab ever adopt any of the Japanese designs that their shipyard churned out? The Kongos / Fusos seemed to stay in use a lot longer than most of the WWI vintage RN designs.
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>>163571418
>487 exp
>8132 damage

So... what're you trying to prove?
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>>163571645
>hides my name
Sorry, don't like to get stalked not like I already am.

>>Posts a shitty score screen
sorry for being diagnosed with autism if you can't pick up any the cue(s) from that picture, I'm sure you'll get a nice handler!

>>Acts all smug about it
again, sorry for the diagnose! Hope you get well.
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>>163571804
Gremy
>better shell damage
>better fire chance
>better maneuverability
>faster reloading torps
>slightly better concealment
>trains RU DD captains

Anshan
>faster torps
>faster turning gun turrets
>slightly faster speed
>more HP

The fact that Ashan is a decent T6 while being a heavily nerfed Gremy should tell you a lot about how broken Gremy is.
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2 weeks in and got my first 100K+ damage game. Just a little bit less of a shitter now.
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>>163572046

>Arab

Meant Royal Navy, goddamn phone.
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>>163572046
The Queen Elizabeths and the Hood also stayed in use for WWII. While the designs were usable, the fact that they stayed comissioned had more to do with cost issues and the treaty designed to stop an expensive arms race from happening.
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>>163572102
>Sorry, don't like to get stalked not like I already am.
Are you familiar with the Streisand effect?
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>>163572181
how even
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>>163572134

The Nagato is a really underrated boat
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>>163572046
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Tiger_(1913)
'smouldering affection, dear'
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>>163570550
ayo dis
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>>163571691
It looked really cute in QM until she exploded.
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>>163572328
I feel like it's because it's the first boat in the line they force you to be in for a long time between the amount of XP you need to reach the Amagi and the extra upgrades being non-optional if you want to perform well enough to ever get that 135000 xp to research the next stage. The sheer number of games you have to play in it means you either git gud or give up.

She's definitely a boat I've become attached to, gonna be the first one I don't sell Immediately after getting her successor.
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>>163570935

they were intended to real life wasd hack to doge fire.
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>everyone says this ship is shit
>when you get it, it's actually good

What's her name, /wowsg/?
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>>163573237
Colorado
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>>163573237

Colorado
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>>163573237
New York
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>>163572261
Are you randomly looking up Wikipedia articles again?
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>People getting prinz left and right
Fuck me sideways. I wish I could have their luck.
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>>163573397
>>163573413
>>163573503

>all USN BBs

What did WG mean by this?
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>>163573596
Yeah keep gambling, maybe you'll get a worse cruiser than it's free counterpart.
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Last Stand for T2 Kraut DD skill?
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>>163573397
>>163573413
It's not the same when the ship was legitimately shit for the longest time until it finally got much needed buffs. It's like saying Furutaka. Their reputation precedes them, and in some cases you're just hearing straight up outdated information.
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>>163573237
Colorado and Yorck
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>>163573696
get TAE you baka!!
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>>163573657

dude 20 knots LMAO
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>>163573512
Haha, no. I'm not some kind of Dunning-Kruger!
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>>163573697

I'd argue it counts because you have people still spouting the meme about it being horrible currently.
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>>163573697
>Name a ship you heard shitty information about
>Goodship
>No no no, that's not fair! You just heard shitty information about her!
What did he mean by this?
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>>163574063
This, if someone says the Colorado is still shit then I consider them a shitter

t. 73% WR in Colorado
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How do I level up in the tech tree guys? Been playing for weeks and i'm still barely into T5. It takes almost a hundred games to go from T4 to 5, how do you do it?
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>>163574680
Stop baiting shitter.
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>>163574720
>It takes almost a hundred games to go from T4 to 5
Are you playing fucking co-op?
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>>163574720
By gitting gud

But no, really. As you get better you begin to get more XP. Also, don't forget that more HP doesnt mean more XP. XP is counted by % of HP. So taking 100HP off a DD is worth more than taking 100 HP off a BB.
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>>163574680
Tbh I feel the same way about the Nagato.
t. decent winrate in the Nagato
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>>163574798
No but it only gives like 500 xp on a win. Where I deal out over twice my ships' hp in damage. That's 50 wins to go from 4 to 5 alone.
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>>163570407

I don't think you understand how ship design works... Like you've read some stuff on the *history* of these boats, but not the actual methodology of designing them. Let me put it like this, if I started with a battleship, a finished one, with full sized guns (lets say 14") and armor capable of beating the guns it carries, so a BB in all true senses of the word. And it went... 23 knts, and decided I wanted to turn it into a BC, and removed the armor (lets say I could do this hypothetically) down from where it could defeat a 14" shell down to where it could just barely handle an 8" shell (as most BC's were designed). If I did all that, I would *not* have a battle cruiser. For one, it wouldn't magically go from 23 knts to 32 knts. In fact, I'd wager you'd gain less than a knot or two. Probably less. Ship design has more to do with shape of a hull, amount/size/type of power pant, beam to length ratio, things like this. Battlecruisers are NOT battleships that have had armor removed. Their Cruisers built to battleship scales and guns. This is a HUGE difference in design. Like I cannot even begin to really emphasis how different this makes the design process. And this was true for EVERY COUNTRY'S Battlecruisers. US, British, Jap, and yes, German. They are CRUISERS, built like battleships, not battleships with some armor plating removed. Weight, (aka armor) plays less of a roll in speed in the real sense then length and number of boilers does. That's why the Hood was LONGER than the Yamato (and faster). The real reason why you don't pile on Armor, has less to do with saving speed, as it will increase draft, and result in a ship you can't build, fit out, or port. I could build a BB with 18" of armor no problem, and still have performance like one with 14" but it'd have a 40 ft draft and wouldn't be able to dock anywhere or fit through any channel.
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>>163574865
>No but it only gives like 500 xp on a win.
That means that you are not doing your part and so are getting poor xp. What line are you going up right now?

The most number of battles I've needed to progress through tier 4 was 26 battles through Myogi.
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>>163575029

Nip Carriers.

I'm averaging about 2.5 destroyed per game, with a minimum damage of 30k in 10 games. Usually I hit about 60k unless I get killed off early. I even broke 100k damage dealt once. But still the most I've gotten is about 950 xp.

The fuck am I doing wrong?
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>>163574875

Holy shit man split that into some fucking paragraphs. Just looking that that jumble of shit is giving me a headache.
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>be a baBBie
>never shoot at targets with lots of health
>hold fire
>wait until something is at low health
>shoot
>repeat
>avoid getting into a battle to not get your paint scratched
>baBBies do this so WG will keep buffing their class
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>>163575229
playing cv's
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>>163575229
>Nip Carriers.
Oh, that explains it. RIP CV economy. It's not you, it's the game.

Just make sure that your team is winning more often than it's losing, and you'll literally have done as much as you could.
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>>163574817

wat

Is this true?
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>>163575384
Oh. Well...t-thanks....

Really lame though. I carry a lot of games I'm in by crushing the enemy CV and playing support-bro for my BB.

But oh well, back to playing battleships myself and losing because our CV is a potato.
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>>163575272

t. krooza invisifiring HE every 3 seconds
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>>163574875

That's pretty interesting anon. Where did you learn that, I'm curious myself.
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>>163575325

>pick nip CV
>send my planes at an isolated BB
>none of them come back
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>>163575453
completely.
XP is based off % of total HP dealt. along with a % bonus for getting the kill medal.

If memory serves the kill medal is worth 10-20% of the kill's total HP but I could be off on the %.
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>>163575728

>tfw all those times you decided not to fire on a DD or CA because a BB with more health was nearby

I'm so fucking retarded, thanks anon.
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>>163574817
So shoot at everything, gotcha.
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>>163575852
>>163575921
Yes. Plus, overall, it is more useful and safer to remove guns from the field of play than to go for huge numbers.

Some people may cry "killstealing" but you can never trust randoms to actually kill something sitting at 600 health. I've had enough experience on either side of this situation to know that "almost dead" is still "fully alive".
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>>163575256
>>163575660

I can answer both of these at once:
Im not a writer, I'm an engineer. I have a B.S. in Chemical (which started me at GE designing ship's engines) and then got a M.S. in Nautical. I'm incharge, in simplest terms, of picking the right engine for the right boat. This is kinda why I know how designing a ship, where you start from at least, works. Battleships are to battlecruisers the way a Cruise Ship is to an LNG carrier. You can see how they are similar, big, heavy boats, but the design process is night and day apart. To build a BC you have to start with a cruiser hull and configuration and scale it up. If you tried to start with a BB and "lighten it" you'd just have a slow, unarmored Battleship. Basically a Coastal Defense ship or monitor.
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>>163576350

Is there any reason you counselor mate a battleships armor and equipment to a cruiser shaped hull? Why are those mutually exclusive
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>>163576457

*couldn't mate
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>>163576116

>in t5, Konig, I think
>enemy Kongo takes a beating and is down to something like 300hp
>I hold fire and instead fire at a CA, which all overpen
>Assume teammates will finish off Kongo
>he makes it behind a island and starts to repair.
>later in game it's me vs the last enemy BB, the fucking Kongo who manages to win.

learned my lesson that day.
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Hey NeoRussia look at your client ok
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>>163576457
Not him, but cruiser hulls were designed for maximum speed and minimum drag. Battleship hulls were designed for displacement and stability.

And once ship engine design got advanced enough, they made huge ships with overall cruiser-like hulls but enough displacement to mount BB-tier armor, and we call those "fast battleships", i.e. USN BB tier 8+, IJN BB tier 5+, KM BB tier 7+, etc.
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>>163576457

What makes a ship go fast is the size of it's plant (how much sHP it puts out that is), prop design, shaft design (this is the biggest thing holding speeds back now), and Beam to length ratio. Notice I didn't mention weight. That's cause, for speed sake, weight *functionally* doesn't matter (it does, but in a MUCH more complex way then you care about). Here's a fun thing. The Admiral Hipper class could go ~32 knts. So could the Bismarck class. The Hippers DWT was around 16k tons, and the Bis was 41k. More than double the displacement. However, the Hips had a draft of 24 ft, the Bis had one of 30. So despite weighing more than double (almost triple) the size, being similar in length but MUCH thicker (and this is the key part), and of course, carrying SIGNIFICANTLY more armor, it was only a few feet deeper. You can't just bolt armor onto something and expect it to work. You'll make it sit SO low in the water it can't dock, and you don't build ships in the middle of the ocean (and nor do they refuel/load there). Think of a barge. I can bolt 24" of armor on a barge, and make it big enough that it can still port, but it's gona lose speed dramatically for the obvious reasons. NE is a balancing act, and is not for the feint of heart.
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>>163576457
Also, if you want to see what happens when you try to bolt way too much stuff on to a wholly inappropriate hull, go check out the IJN's mishaps with their DDs and cruisers in the interwar period. :^)
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USN BB split when?
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>>163576836

cont'

History buffs look at ships and instantly look at them as at sea, in the ocean, fighting, but, and I need you to own this thought, when the *engineers* are designing the thing, that's actually secondary to making it float and dock.

When I get an assignment to build a new carrier (LNG, not CV) I usually get two constraints: DWT and where it's got to port. EVERYTHING else is up to me and my team. Warships work similar. Usually it was a DWT, Panamax, and either a gun sizes OR speed. Armor thickness usually was the last thing considered. Armor schemes came in at the END of the design process, since armor is usually what you can get away with, not what you want.

An analogy is, ship design, is the opposite of german tank design, where you end up with the Maus and Tiger II. They demand a certain amount of armor and build a tank around it seeing what speed and power you can get away with. Ships start with a power and see how much armor you can bolt onto it before it sits so low in the water it's either swamped in 2 ft seas and/or can only port in LA.
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Chat server down again

DE or AFT for Prinz?
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>>163577190

Weren't deep water ports pretty standardized even back in the 30's and 40's?
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Thanks for coming, phans. My client crashed after that last match on Estuary ended. Have a Merry Christmas!
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>>163577559
Who is this cuteposter?
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>>163577370

To be clear, a deep water port is like, 30 ft. And you dont want your ship, at deep load, sitting at 29 feet. Bear in mind the Hipper as mentioned has a draft of 34 feet. So we're talking DEEP water ports, like in the US you're looking at SD, LA, Boston and the Naval bases. That's about it. And, if you make a ship SUPER deep, where it can only dock at a select few ports, what happens if it's damaged at sea and needs repairs that can't be completed underway? Now you're talking about scuttling. There's ALOT to consider with this stuff. Again, LNG's are what I mostly work on. If I want it in Boston (a Panamax port) I can give it a 32 ft draft. But I am NOW making it impossible for that ship to dock in NY, which is a bad idea.
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>>163577648

woops that was supposed to be 24 feet for Hipper. But you get the point. Warships were built to VERY close the limits of the infrastructure surrounding them. The Tillman battleships come to mind here. They basically asked for the maximum you could make one, as big and bad as possible AND STILL they had to limit them by depth and length. Think about that. One of those had a belt of 18 inches and 15 16 inch guns, and the STILL were worried about draft. Cause you got to dock the fucking thing.
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>>163577190

But hull shapes for dreadnoughts / battleships didn't drastically change from 1906 - 1930 when the adoption of clipper bows became universal. Before that you still had big gulfs in the speed differences of these hulls anywhere from 20kts to nearly 30, and it's hard to believe that countries were willingly putting weaker power plants in their ships.
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>>163577761
Bismarck.
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>>163577806
Because weaker engines = less weight and hull space taken up by engines = more weight you can use for armor and guns
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>>163577790

Thinking more, I can, on paper, design a battleship, capable of 37 knots, with a 18 inch belt, and 12 18 inch guns, VERY easily, but back of the napkin math says it's gona be over 400 meters long, like 135 meters wide, and most definitely a draft of like 75 feet. Which is cool but you can't build that. I mean forget docking the thing, there aren't ship yards capable of something that massive.
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>>163577648
i figured deep water ports were much more plentiful in the US considering the no name tiny ass 3 ship port near where i live is good to a 45' controlling depth with a 450' wide channel leading to it with the same depth. you hardly ever see container ships use it.
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>>163577842
close
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>>163577761
>>163577842
>>163577972
Freddy
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>>163577761
Tirpitz
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>>163577935

Why do 18" guns seem to be the upper limit for naval artillery? Is there something about 20-22" shells that just makes component manufacturing impossible?
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>>163577806
>and it's hard to believe that countries were willingly putting weaker power plants in their ships.

This is gona get hard to explain without math but suffice to say yes they did, because power plants, until recently, are the hardest part of the ship to make work (and its specifically my field). Right *now* the issue is that we're being limited by one of two things, prop design, and shaft design. You can make a ship faster (from the engine standpoint) in two main ways: spin the prop faster, or get more torque from the prop. We've reached the limit on speed of the shaft. Once you get over about 70k RPM they start to warp and break and we're outa ways to make something that massive, stronger. That's why prop design is becoming the big deal that it is, because its the only way we're gona get to the magical 40 knt carrier.

To answer the question specifically, why you had dreadnoughts going from 15 to 23 knots all at the same time is yes, power plant designs and controllers (this is where my CE degree comes in handy). It's important to remember the very first PID controller was installed on the USS New Mexico (fun fact) and that in a huge ways made controlling engine RPM's monumentally easier and thus, consistent speed.
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>>163578009
yup

on a side note, is the Blysk good/fun? I got her in a $3 crate, but I don't really play DDs
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>>163578110

Not my field but knowledge of that aspect says that it's a logistics issue. Gun barrels are hard to make enough, and wear out fast (like 2-3 hundred shots max per barrel) and a 22" gun is probably cost prohibitive to operate. Even the 1 US 18inch gun that was made was considered Cost Prohibitive and IIRC was only fired like twice.
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>>163578110

The guns would literally weigh like 2000 tons apiece. And the turret like 10000 tons. The shells would be so massive loading them would take years. Turret rotation would be like 5 minutes. And big guns just aren't a thing anymore.
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>>163577930
I'm pretty sure BBs mostly got top-shelf engines because speed and maneuverability = being able to dictate the terms of a surface engagement. We're not talking about DE shit.

Most BBs got their boilers and/or turbines upgraded several times over the course of their service life.

>>163578195
But that's not really relevant to the current discussion, no? We're talking CCs and BBs back when they were relevant. We're talking 2x knot vessels, where propulsion design was still MORE RPM/SHP IS BETTER.
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I dream of a day when potatoes won't launch torps behind me
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>>163578356

What I was trying to say is the reason for the vast changes of speed despite lack of noticeable change in hull design, was the rapidly advancing changes in power plant design. Shifting from coal to oil, the ability to get the boilers hotter, boilers and metulagy technology allowing higher steam pressures, PID controllers for both rudder control (less speed loss while cruising) and later PID controllers on engine RPM. I mean it's worth remembering that no BB ever had a DE engine, which is fucking astounding they were able to do what they do without them. Evening shifting from staged gearing made a huge difference. That's why the speeds varied from design to design so much.

Think of it like storage medium today. In one decade (1998 to 2008) we went from floppy (magnetic) still being commonly used, to optical, now to primarily RAM.
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>>163578624
>get torped twice in one game by the same friendly DD at close range
>"I'm drunk"
very ebin
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>>163578258
Yes. Pretty much the META DD for T7 ranked.
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>favourite Jap DDs nerfed
>no interest in cruisers
>no interest in US/RUS/GER DDs
>up to tier 8 in JAP/GER BBs, so no point going US
>fuck Carriers
>only ship I can stand playing now is the Bismarck since they took my Minekaze away

Not much left for me in this game desu
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>>163579620
>no point going US
Yeah you should just quit desu
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>>163579620
Try working towards the Zao it's lots of fun.
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>>163579620
>tfw still play IJN DDs and being a huge burden for the team
Feels good.
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:thinking:

maybe one day i'll actually get a kill and set something on fire
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>>163579620

Don't have the Kamikaze? It still works the same.
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>>163579819
I don't

Maybe I should just wait for the next BB line
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How I get good at Tripz
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>>163579858
I would help you but I ain't giving away God tier advice for free.
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>>163579858
You buy a Bismarck
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>>163579858
>he can't do well in the tirpitz
I literally don't understand
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>no longer chat banned
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>>163580047
Raptor should be perma banned from Discord, 4chan, and WoWS.
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>>163579813
Even though wave played 99% of the games displayed there in divs, it's still depressing to see those stats. How do you even manage to attain average ship kills like that?
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>>163580110
you should kill yourself if you care that much
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>>163579946
I don't play this game.
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>>163580273
Because NA seem to have retards that doesn't shoot DDs.
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>>163580407
I get those same teams, and while I perform solidly in those ships, I can't rack up such numbers. I am the only constant. It's depressing. Seeing your numbers is depressing, wave. ;_;
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>>163580110
The world would be too much of a better place.
And Santa aint that generous.
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>>163580327
>owns a tirpitz
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>>163580545
But I'm not wave.
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>>163580110
Raptor should self ban from life.
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>>163580648
Maybe you're not but >>163579813 are wave's stats.
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>>163580720
Then you just have to do more damage and not die.
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>>163580273
>>163580545
The ship is bad. I'm not getting any DDs to shoot at (on average 1-2 DDs per battle) and a shitty German DD is not going to secure kills on cruisers/battleships + I'm drinking and struggling to keep my eyes up
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I hope you're having a good holiday season /wowsg/!
Have fun celebrating it with whoever you're spending it with, and if you're just spending it on botes with /wowsg/ like me then good luck in your matches.
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>>163580569
I got it from a $3 crate my friend gift to me.
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>There are people who haven't gotten Prinz for Christmas
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>>163581051
Merry christmas fellow anon.
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So how'd Wargaming get Martin Freeman to dress up as Santa Claus for their Secret Santa event?

Does he play?
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>>163579858
>>163581221
You should play other BB's first. It's all about finding the right timing and balance between leading pushes and not getting promptly sunk by focused fire.

Division with fellow anons and follow them around.
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>>163581256
>Asanagi

Please stop
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>>163572046
Warspite
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>WG is planning to add IJN BB prems
>stock Nagato and stock Amagi
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>>163581850
why
Did too many people complain about Prinz having nothing over the tech tree variant except training and credits?
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>>163582098
The only nation and class missing high tier prems is IJN BBs..
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should I invest in akizuki or go for yugumo
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>>163582146
But why not just Nagato-C with more credits or more free XP like the Anshan? Nobody likes the stock hulls on any of the CCs turned BBs. Are we going to get one of the Kongo sisters as the removed A hull too?
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>>163582313
they're free..

>>163582562
Why would there be a free Nagato and premium Nagato..
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>>163582585
Why is there a free Hipper and a Premium Hipper?
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>>163582686
Prinz is Prinz and Hipper is Hipper..
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>>163582723
Nagato is Nagato and Mutsu is Mutsu
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>>163582723
>Prinz is somehow not a Hipper-class cruiser
Okay anon.
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>>163582585
Why would there be a free Hipper and a premium Hipper?
Why would there be a free Iowa and a premium Iowa?
Why would there be a free Gnevny and 2 premium Gnevnys?
Why would there be a free Kirov and a premium Kirov?
Why would there be a free Scharnhorst and a premium Scharnhorst?
Why would there be a free New York and a premium New York?
It's not like they'd really have to change much to make people want to buy a Mutsu that was just a C-hull Nagato with minor differences and premium benefits.
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>>163582803
Mutsu never received the hull you see on the Nagato-class battleship Nagato in-game
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>>163582858
And half the russian ships in the game never existed in the first place
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>Get 3 $3 crates from a friend
>Get a ship crate
>Get a Marblehead

RUSED
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>>163582858
Pretty sure neither did Nagato technically.
The tech tree ships are rarely exactly like they were in real life, so much as a mash up of things from their class.
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>>163582858
She got the B hull in 1936 with the pagoda mast
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>>163582972
I'd say that's pretty decent. Literally got a ship for nothing, and Marblehead herself is pretty fun.
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>>163581390
Ok. I'll go level my BBs line then.

>Division with fellow anons and follow them around.
This sounds scary.
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Nice
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>>163583853
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>>163583169
It's not. It's nice to have at least 2 ships with you on a flank
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>>163583853
>>
goodnight wowsg
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>>163585002
g'night bud
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>>163585002
Night.
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ded
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>>163586202
It would be a bit more alive if you were pouting less and playing more, anon-dono.
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>>163582313
Depends. Do you want a tree that goes somewhere or just ends? Akizuki should lead back into Yuugumo but WG is dumb. Go Yuugumo.
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Should I go full secondary build with Freddy?
I kept sexpeced Bisko
Also is there any reason to pick 420 over 406?
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>>163586816
I went Secondary build with Freddy and it's t he most fun I've had in a BB.
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>not having a whole lot of success in fully upgraded Mahan
>Decide to dump the AA hull and regain the amidships gun mount.
>Immediately start doing significantly better

Why does this game have trap options? I'm not playing 3.5
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>>163587523
>ever taking AA hulls on gunbote DDs
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>>163587692
I kept being permaspotted by aircraft. It seemed a good way to deal with it.
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potent
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tankyness
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it's just constant, constant
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ded again
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enemy DeeDee
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>>163588898
Every time you pout, a redditor dies

Stop redditor abuse today!
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>>163589228
How is that not a good thing?
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>it's a "enemy Balansov holds a flank all by himself"
Shell type instead of HP% based fire damage when?
>inb4 stalinium shells filled with dragon's breath
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>>163589268
All human life is precious and valuable. As a follower of the bible, I cannot depreciate the value of a redditor's life, regardless of how stupid they often may be.
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>>163589268
I want to fug her sexually and you know what I mean.
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My Shiratsuyu isn't Shiratsuyu, she's Yamakaze. Do you do the same?
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USN cruiser line split when?
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Fuck cairns is such a fucking shithole I just wanna head back to SC reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Buff Midway
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>>163589964
Cairns is actually fucking good, get some taste you shitter

If nightclubs aren't your thing, go look for the cafe strip along the seaside
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>>163589390
No, what do you mean?
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>>163590569
I mean that I'd like to put my benis into her bagina.
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>>163590738
How do you put Benis into a bagina?
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>>163590768
Hard
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>This is how SEA keeps the thread up
I think I rather it die.
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>>163590908
but I'm EU
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>>163587692
I put DF on my Floocher tho
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What is the Graf Spee's role? Long reload time and only 2 guns make it unsuitable for murdering DDs, and I sure as hell won't be going near BBs to use the torps.
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>>163591342
>he thinks a prem German CRUISER is going to be any different from it's tech tree counterparts
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>The new Udaloi gun sounds
God I thought this ship couldn't be more fun to play
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>>163590908
But I'm NA
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>>163590908
But I'm RU.
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>>163591489
I'm going to bully you, Chou.
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>want to have fun in Cleveland
>forget it's a cruiser
>a CL at that
>also public enemy no. 1 due to former glory and HE spam
>try finding a comfy island to hide behind and lob some shells
>all islands are either too high or low enough for the enemy to shoot back
>spotted
>devastating strike
Should've kept playing DDs
>>
Reminder that baBBies are to blame for the demise of German DDs.
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>>163591463
>your_CA_gets_spotted.gif
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>>163591568
DDs are also public enemy no. 1.
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>>163591656
But much harder to hit and spot.
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>wait for discount to buy my first tier 10
>ask in clan if discounts if there will be a tier 10 discount this weekend
>">EU discounts"
>okay
>buy said tier 10
>wake up today and its 15% discount

die
>>
should I buy the Yugumo?
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>>163591978
You tell me.
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>>163591978
if you play on SEA, yes
if you play on NA, no
if you play on EU, yes
if you play on RU, no
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>>163592021
Slutty DDs are the best.
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>>163591978
It's a good bote with 8km torps
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>>163592046
Why no on NA? Doesn't the BBs there sail in straight lines?
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>>163591463
>Kitakami_torps_inbound.gif
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>>163591456
I've never played German Cruisers, I don't know what they do.
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>>163592063
Only if you get the upgrade which I don't have. Thought about it since I spec'd her into a gunboat.
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>>163591463
I've been on Tashkent for so long. Only 40k away, should I just finish it and move on? I was starting on KSM DDs but since they're letdown of the century maybe going back to Soviet DDs is better.
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>>163589935
After Vodka CV
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>>163592235
Naganami a pure.
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>get your first t9
>finally no low tier matches
>finally I will consistently get competent teams
oh I am like a little baby
>north
>all enemy team at A
>my team went D
>they kept chasing 1 (one) cruiser to the blue line
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>>163593370
You expected competent random teamm8s?
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>>163593471
Well, I assumed that people who get to t9/10 are somewhat familiar with the game.
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>>163568565
Gremyaschy))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>163571691
>tfw when we probably won't get Lion (1945) with autoloaded 16 inch guns that have 20 second reload firing superheavy shells, but instead but some N3 Frankenstein monstrosity.
>>
How's crate opening going /wowsg/?
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>>163592336
Tashkent with rudder mod 3 instead of concealment is kind of like a slightly better Kiev with way worse MM but the Udaloi is definitely worth it and since the Khaba got nerfed probably the most fun ship in the game.
I don't know anything about KM DDs but I wouldn't start playing them just yet because they might get buffed.
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>>163594284
>KM DDs might get buffed.
They need it and seeing the outrage on the forums this might be another instance where WG caves.
>Fucking Westerners
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>enemy CV is autistic starcraft veteran
>ours can barely turn his PC on
evrytiem
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>>163594459
>Enemy CV bitching at our CV for being a Saipan at the start of a match
>Wallet Warrior
>Pay2Win
>Saipan does literally nothing, has 0 kills and we lose
Every time.
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>>163594459
>enemy is balanced ijn cv
>our is usn strike
I fucking already know we're fucked.
>>
What DD line should I get into? I'm a bi-curious baBBy.

USA looks pretty cool with their big fucking anti-DD guns, but how do they fare against CAs?
>>
What is some nice ship that doesn't get insta focused by everyone?
>play Bisko
>everyone wants yo ass ded
>play Pepsi
>everyone can smell your wet citpussy from the edge of the map
>play Atago
>bounty placed on my head
>play any high tier BB
>dmg pinata for HE spammers
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>>163594882
Play the IJN torpedo line.
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>>163562105
>good against DDs
>bounces everything off ass of squirming Kagero
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>When that cash flow kicks in
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>>163595008
>What is some nice ship that doesn't get insta focused by everyone?
Bogue
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>>163594459
>>enemy CV is autistic starcraft veteran
Hey, that's me! How did you like the battle ?
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>>163594351
>They need it
Please git gud, The only problem is the absurd power fantasies of players that weren't fulfilled by the good but not broken new dd's.
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>put torpedo launchers on a fishing trawler
>call it a destroyer
why is this allowed?
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>>163594459
>Strike indy vs AS indy
>Strike indy manages a kraken
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>>163595776
I'm the best DD player in this thread and I think they're pretty terrible compared to USN or Soviet DDs. Even IJN have at least low detection and torps.
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>>163592142
>I've never played German Cruisers, I don't know what they do.
Well, Eugen, Graf Spee and Emden arent exactly better than their same tier sisters. That should tell you enough.
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>>163591342
Murder BBs and CAs. The guns are pretty accurate and you have BB-tier alpha damage to scare off cruisers. You have the highest HP pool as a T6 cruiser and also healpot. The only downside is speed which you can offset with flags and DPM. On the bright side, you get to bully BBs.
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>>163587692
>>ever taking AA hulls on gunbote DDs
If you want to be a one-man Bermuda triangle, then yes.
Only seems to work on Farragut though.
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>>163595852
At least don't bully V-25 and G-101 They know their sisters are bad, but they are tring their best.
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>i'm not going to buy Bismarck, i'll hopefully wait for christmas discount on high tier ships
>Remember that i'm on >EU
>Proceed to acquire Bismarck to start retraining

The very next day;
>wake up
>CAN'T WAKE UP
>check WoWs launcher
>15% discount on tier 8 ships and 50% on modules

Wasted a couple of millions, w/e i still got 43.
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>>163596209
You, me, same ship and the same fuck up. At least I feel somewhat better now thanks.
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>>163595846
Looks kinda like the minesweeper which my grandfather commanded.
>>
How has your Christmas holiday been so far, /wowsg/? Having a fun time?
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>>163596209
>tfw don't even get T8 discount
At least I can buy my Shchors for cheap I guess.
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>>163596370
I'm always having a fun time with /wowg/
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>>163596370
>had a bunch of fun bote matches with friends
>got some nice new botes
Pretty good so far desu.
I hope you're all having a good time too /wowsg/!
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>>163596370
>Having a fun time?
I haven't killed myself so you could say that
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>>163596370
If i go to Japan, will i get grills like this thanks to my gaijin appeal?
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>>163596607
It would be extremly rewarding.
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>>163596607
You definitely won't get girls like Kashima, because Kashima is a good girl.
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>>163596370
I quit my job and now I'm an unemployed neet until I find a new job after New Years. I can't complain.
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>>163596370
>Having a fun time?
With Cleveland, yes
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>>163595852
>pretty terrible compared to....
Worse than Gnevny, Tashkent ?
>>
>People complain wanting Kitakami back
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>>163596714
>Big-tittied grill in slutty semi-naked outfit
>Good girl

That's the kind of grill you could get for a dinner in a pretty restaurant, or with a nice car.
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>>163597291
It's a cosplayer as Kashima dressed as Shimakaze. Real Kashima is a good girl.
>>
> personal offer 7 days premium for 1000 doubloons
>only have 1075 doubloons from containers
>Not really planning on playing that much this week
Should I take it or keep saving for Kutuzov?
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>>163597273
Some see it as the ultimate special snowflake ship that only good players like myself can do well in, kind of like the Atlanta. But it's just fucking awful. A Kuma at tier 8 who can't even stealth torp. The smokescreen they eventually gave it barely helps when its guns are so outclassed. It's not an exaggeration to say all it has going for it is 40 torps, and if it wanted to launch both sides it was basically committing suicide. The teamkilling was just players being bad, but it's by no standard a good ship.
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>>163597357
I wouldn't be sure about that.
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>>163597291
Rude! She's just trying to earn a living in the naval base by doing the admiral's photoshoots!
>>
I just remembered I had to compliment a kiev that saved my baBBy ass yesterday with a nice smoke but the rest of my team played like shit so I started shittalking them and we lost and I forgot what I was supposed to do

Anyways thanks kiev player you did well
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>>163597357
Kashima just wants to wish everyone a Merry Christmas!
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>>163597820
>yfw we're never getting her
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>>163597850
Looks like they just used her model for Haku.
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>>163597820
>Tier 9
>27 knots
>48 planes
What could go wrong?
>>
I want to slam my torpedo into Fubuki's weak spot.
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>>163598164
No you don't.
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>>163598202
Okay, fine. I want Fubuki to slam her weak spot onto my torpedo.
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I WANT HIBIKI TO TIE ME UP AND ""PUNISH"" ME!
captcha: hotel Rue
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>>163598303
We got a huge pervert right here.
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>>163598346
m-make this pervert atone for his sins with your feet!
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>>163598720
Useless trash doesn't deserve feet.
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Merry Christmas, fellow SEA friends!
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>>163598791
anything! punish me with anything! please!!
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>>163594087
Six $5 crates netted me...nothing but camo.
>>
>>163599220
Impressive goyimery. Truly a dedicated goyim.
>>
>>163599220
>10x$3 boxes
>camo, dragon flags and ships I'm never gonna use
>gifted $3 box
>warspite that I'm never gonna use
>>
>>163596307
>>163596209
Anons, I am sorry, but.
ARE you idiots?
We had T2-5 discounts in week 1
T6 -- week 2
T7 -- week 3
Couldn't you wait for a bit?
>>
>>163596307
>>163596209
A piece of advice.
NEVER buy anything at Thursday-Friday. Wait for Saturday in case WG will do a discount.
>>
>>163599051
Merry Christmas to you too fellow anon.
>>
>Over half my health gone due to fires
When will WG get their heads out of their asses and fix this shit.
>HE does less damage than AP
No shit, WG, the damage isn't in the HE, it's in the fires caused by HE.
>Working as intended. No reason to change where the the fire is to how much damage is taken
Amazing how if my stern is on fire it does as much damage as if my tower where all the people are is on fire. Nice work, WG. Really knowing your history there. If you knew anything you would know ships don't burn like kindling, you communists pig fuckers.

/rant.
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>>163576350
>Implying engineers don't have to write reports and shit
Paragraphs next time, you faggot
>>
>>163599928
kek, learn the basics
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>>163599928
>Really knowing your history there.
Remember Tsushima, comrade!

>If you knew anything you would know ships don't burn like kindling, you communists pig fuckers.
Well, that is where they sort of do have a bit of a point.

Ships do get set on fire by hits in battle.
But most of that damage was very superficial, because pretty much everyone had realized that fighting fires rapidly was an absolute priority.

The cases where fires got out of control and caused lots of damage were mostly related to Really Bad Things happening, like avgas tanks rupturing or ammo detonating.
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Kill me.
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>>163599928
>No shit, WG, the damage isn't in the HE, it's in the fires caused by HE.
What damage is easier to heal AP or fires?
Who deal more damage on average BB or CA? What do they use?
>Amazing how if my stern is on fire it does as much damage as if my tower
Because for game all fire is the same as it deal damage not into part of ship where fire is, but into ship hp itself.

Though IMO it is kinda annoying that fires damage doesn't saturate.
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>>163600703
Good goy.
10points cap, is still 10 POI captains, if this makes you feel better
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Skills and equipment for Blyskawica?
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>>163600847
You don't play DD, do you?
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>>163600847
BFT
Fire prevention
torpedo armament
Manual AA
Jack of all trades
>>
>>163600907
>>163601043
I've gone
BoS
LS
SI
not sure if to pick ship hp or DE
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>>163591537
Chou plays on EU though.

>>163591747
>He didn't wait until the weekend
>He didn't take into account WG-EU spoiling us with secret discounts)))))))))))))))))
Well, you know for next time now.

>>163594087
>Really want to buy some crates
>Way too salty about the absence of 'Raid Santa's Convoy' campaign to consider it
Just kill me now

>>163595436
>Reward: 1,000,000 credits

>>163597372
I know I'm too late, but this is how WG tricks you into spending more money than you intended.
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>playing botes on Christmas morning
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>>163601319
>implying I have anything better to do
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>>163601482
But you do.
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>>163601568
fap?
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>>163601568
Like what?
I don't have any family or friends around to spend it with. At least with botes I have /wowsg/, and you guys are pretty neat.
>>
>>163600703
I like her.
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>>163601698
I won't be here on Christmas, you're on your own. I have friends and family to be with. People who love me.
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those decimals
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>>163601868
Then I hope you have a great Christmas and enjoy your time with them anon.
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>People trying to sink a knife deep into people's feels
>Right on Christmas
Literal trash.
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>>163601868
>>
>>163602052
>>163602107
Don't get me wrong, I'd invite you guys too. No one should be alone on the holidays.
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>>163602161
We're never truly alone when we have each other.
And our favorite Botes.
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>>163596607
They will become aunties or men when you get close to them
>>
>have 10 dragon flags
>30 restless fire camos
>100% more exp bonus
getting my 15 pt captain is gonna be made a lot easier, takes a load off my mind
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>>163603003
>10 dragon flags
You are like a little child
>>
I bought a 1 euro box for myself an hour ago, I still haven't opened the game. Do I need to let it stew longer to get something good out of it?
>>
>>163604438
You need to have premium account for better chances.
>>
>>163604598
I have that. I'm gonna go check my medium rare box now.
>>
Which is the best T10 cruiser?

I'd jump and say Hindenburg
>>
>1 nikolais per side for 3 games
> they're not mine

I wouldn't be surprised if people threw money for boxes just so they could score a Niko
>>
>>163604618
Don't forget to open/buy next while listening to Russia national anthem
>>163604728
I thought you wrote the best, not the worst
>>
>>163604438
>>163604618
Protip: don't sell any premiums.
The boxes take into consideration which premiums you have when they generate their content.
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>>163604765
I knew I was forgetting something. a-at least I'll get the Missouri soon
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Who needs HE anyways?
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>>163604728
That really depends on your play style
Des Moines>Moskva>Zao>Hindenburg
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>>163605036
That's an accurate list, but where's the minoturd?
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merry christmas shipfuckers
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These teams this morning... just unbearable at times
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>>163605149
im muslim tho
guess who
>>
>>163604231
what the fuck
>>
>>163605125
In best T10 citadel lists
>>
>>163605125
I completely forget about it :^)
I'd put it between Zao and Hindenburg
>>
>>163605030
What ship?
>>
>>163605450
Fiji
>>
>>163604825
Not really. I've gotten 3 repeat Anshans. But you get the doubloon cost back for every repeat, so that's nice.
>>
>>163604825
That's probably why I never get premiums. Own most of them anyway. Still wish I would get loads of free xp.
>>
>>163605517
Did you buy those containers all at once?
>>
>>163605530
I think it only works out what ship you're gonna get once it decides that you're gonna get a ship at all.
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E-even without presents at Christmas, things like this make me feel good
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>>163605508
Damn, I hate my Fiji.
>>
>>163605601
Yes.
>>
About to start the stock grind on the Amagi, how big of a shaft in my rudder am I about to take?
>>
>>163606259
That's entirely consistent with what I said earlier then. You didn't have an Anshan when you bought the containers.
>>
>>163605864
>tfw the most money I've ever got in one battle, not counting missions is 324k
;_________;
>>
please send me some santa boxes, ign: casual_scrub on EU
I feel so cucked not being able to do the santa campaign T_T
>>
>>163606468
So it's true that Christmas is haram in EU.
>>
>>163606793
we even have the achievements in the EU client and nobody on the server will be able to do them

It's a sad joke
>>
>>163606860
All you have to do is get a Tirpitz camo.
Only 19,99 for achievement )))))
;__;
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>>163606793
Christmas is VERY haram in Europe.

You might offend the Religion of Peace and have your head removed.
>>
>>163606468
>Please reward WG-EU with money
Stop this you incorrigible cucks
>>
>tfw accidentally opened my Honor to Heroes box
Fuck. I've been stockpiling it since September.
>>
>>163607143
show screenshot then
>>
>>163607318
Of what?
>>
>>163607318
It's already fucking gone. What is it that I can show.
>>
Do you use any flags (flags, not signals) on your ships?
>>
>>163607438
>Not saving screenshot
>>
>>163607503
Military month flag on everything. They really fucked up by giving only one benefits. Two really, but the alpha flag is objectively worse.
>>
>>163607503
military month
>>
>>163607503
Military Month.

It's sad because it's the ugliest flag, too. And it feels silly to fly it on my non-FREEDOM vessels.
>>
>>163607503
Alpha on grinds ships
Kure on IJNs
Hawaii on keeper USN's
Military Month on USN grinds
CBT on russian ships
Either Alpha or the new german flag on german ships.
>>
>>163607503
Pirate flag
>>
>>163607503
I fly the Blue Steel flag on my ships. I don't use the ships themselves but I liked the source material well enough to use the flag.
>>
>>163607503
black rock art flag
>it is an art to set ships on fire
>>
>>163607939
I only fly that one on my Zao for bonus cheekiness.
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Friendly reminder that using smoke is for plebs.

reload booster is about 6 million times more useful.
>>
>>163608090
Most people seem to play their Yugumo as a gunbote, though.
>>
>>163604231
I have 111 flags.
>>
what's the best tier 8 that doubloons can buy?
>>
>>163608717
prinz
>>
>>163608717
tirpitz if you are a noob
atago if you are experienced
>>
>>163608717
Atagoy
Kuteusov
>>
>>163607503
Jolly Roger on ships with 15 point captains
Scharnhorst on Scharnhorst, Kaiserliche Marine ships and Umikaze
Wilhelmshaven on Kriegsmarine ships
Pearl Harbor 75th Annivesary on ships present at Pearl Harbor
Midway on other WWII USN ships
1 Year Anniversary on VMF ships
GNB May 2016 - Sea Dog on other ships
>>
>>163607503
Alpha flag on every ship
>>
>>163605296
I think I got about 100 when they were introduced, then another 100 in a SC and a few more from PTs, campaigns and the like.
>>
>430 kfXP
>Missouri to the left of me
>NCar, Mogami, Udaloi and Izumo stock grinds to the right
Fuck it, I'll probably have moved to NA by the time I accumulate enough for Missouri
>>
>>163609842
>grinding two battleship lines

kys reroll
>>
>>163609842
>tfw 510k free exp

With that amount I can get Montana, Kurfurst, Mogami, Cleveland, Nagato, and Farragut.

Or I can just continue and get the Missouri instead.

Decisions decisions...
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Is shima usable with stock torps or do I have to free exp to f3?
>>
>>163610351
F3 is still shit considering all that someone has to do is pop radar and you're as good as fucked.
>>
>Musashi, Mutsu, Yamashiro
All these nice IJN prem botes and so little money.
I'll definitely get Yamashiro as playing Fuso was the most fun I've ever had in this game.
>>
>>163610202
>grinding the same class more than once

kys reroll
>>
>>163610143
>>163610790
You seem upset?

Also you are misusing the term "reroll"

made me reply/10 kys
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>>163611008
>playing a class twice with accumulated experience

kys reroll
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>>163611078
>You must pick one line of each ship class and stay within that line for your entire time in the game till the end of time
>>
>>163610351
Usable with the second torps.

>>163611534
>Playing more than two ships
Holy shit kys reroll scum
>>
>>163611819

>playing more than one ship

Nice try reroll faggot
>>
>>163612073
kys seal clubbing shit
>>
>163611819
>163612115

Stop anytime Manko
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>take stock Bayern into a tier 8 heavy match
>everything goes better than expected
>>
>>163612802
Click on the post number itself next time newfag. Also I'm willing to bet it's Raptor shitting it up because he's bored.
>>
Merry Christmas!

First 10 to reply gets the three dollar crate, time to spread some joy.
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>>163612884
Even managed to cap the base.
>>
>>163613065
MrZ211
thank you
>>
>163612942

>Deny them (You)s and they get really salty

Stay mad :^)
>>
>>163613065
ZerryXii. I have no friends, thanks ;__;
>>
>>163613065
Big_Spud
>>
>>163612884
ducky stronk
>>
>>163613065
ZeroWolf01k
>>
>>163613065
NA?
>>
>>163613065
Merry Christmas
RoflSeal
>>
>>163613065
XxPhoenix006

Thank you very much.
>>
>>163613065
Morriak
>>
>>163613098
>>163612884
>playing stock Bayern when you have Bismarck

Why?
>>
>>163613065
SarkanArkhas, NA
>>
>>163613065
Hit me with that good shit

AntonNizhny
>>
>>163613065
Boogbot
>>
>>163613065
chain_chomp
>>
>>163613398
And thanks, in advance.

And the rest of /wowsg/, stay tuned because I'll be doing a giveaway tomorrow myself
>>
>Go to listen to some music instead of browsing /vg/
>Moment I walk away a crate giveaway happens

Fug
>>
Omg another giveaway missed. Fuck this general.
>>
>>163613760
I can buy you a crate
>>
>>163613950
Really? I'd appreciate it dude. LordMotochika

Oh and I'm listening to The Cure at the moment. Good shit.
>>
>>163614052
Don't buy this shitposter anything, fucker has been begging for a crate everyday and probably received 10.

He's also a redskin and on welfare IRL.
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New Thread!

>>163614550
>>163614550
>>163614550

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9jbdgZidu8
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>>163595008

Domisk, Moskva. For some reason those two get ignored.
>>
>>163595846

It's actually a good little gunboat. Love that all the guns can go 360, so you never don't have all guns available.
>>
>>163606793
ironically it isn't in SEA where you've got the largest Muslim population in the world in Indonesia.

When will EU stop fucking up?
>>
>>163614551
Sup Raptor? :^)
>>
>>163602313
Nope, i'm pretty good looking although, ok maybe a little bit underweight but good for asian standard.
My dick is also above average.
>>
>>163604728
Moskva>Zao=Hindenburg>DM>Minoturd
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