Eve Online General /eog/

First for Gucci

thanks kevin

Daily reminder that the moros is the worst dread and the nag is better than the moros in every field of the world

Nth for AFs

>>163273156
How is the moros worse than the rev or the phoenix?

tfw can't resub until tomorrow and stuck as a dirty alpha

>>163272886
>op pic
typical amarr female

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That picture makes a skeleton look sexy op

>>163272730
no you're poor

>tfw I get the most satisfaction out of the game when someone buys my stuff and I look at their name

I feel like such a jew

>>163273591
There's two different types of dreads

High damage active tank dreads like the moros and nah and high buffer tank lower damage dreads like the Rev and pheonix

Comparing the two high damage dreads the moros is worse than the nag in literally every Stat way. Blasters are worse than autocannons in every fashion and the autocannons get selective damage so technically they do more damage

As an explorer would any part of my income actually be affected by corp tax?

>>163258194
>gallente
>buy gnosis
>make fit
>430dp/s
>100hp/s armor repair

most l4 missions are easy, some are tricky, skipping burners

>>163274252
I don't think you could do the level 4 mission the blockade in a gnosis that's super hard core dps and tank compared to the other ones

>>163274615
I did, it was tricky but manageable (warped 3 times out or something)

with hardeners you get some decent resists

>>163274615
last time i did mission running i used tank+dps=1000 'rule of thumb' for l4s

How to rep bum?

>>163274202
no

>>163276037
What about selling your loot

>>163276240
that is not affected by corp tax

>>163274202
join a 0% corp or create your own

saves fuck ton of monez

>>163276447
Is 3% even that much of a bother?

>Miltary hat
>green and grey camo
>IN FUCKING SPACE.

>>163277045
Could be designed for ground troops ala Dust 514.

Wow did those chinks think CCP games is an affiliate of the chinese communist party? Why would you gift ccp fucking earbuds?

>>163278065
huh?

>>163278065
he made them

>Join fresh null corp
>Getting ready for a PvP roam with alliance
>Some guy opts out
>Only 3 are on TS including myself
>Ship spinning and clearing belt rats for an alpha venture while everyone gets ready
>The guy that opted out is solo mining ice in a rorq
>Gets bubbled
>Doesn't join TS, just mentions it once in the public chat
>I watch as 15 people try to organize and run a fleet in text
>https://zkillboard.com/kill/58434187/

>>163278447
these people cannot fit rorq for shit

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>tfw I spend more time trying to barbie my capsuleer than mining

What the hell is wrong with me!?

>>163274194
It's still better than the low damage dreads, desu.

>>163279431
It isn't because more tank means you get to live for longer and keep doing damage for longer, and so does everyone who gets primaried after you. The moros is shit.

Why do people have multiple characters? Especially those not paying to train multiple ones at once

Is it just a case of always having them in the location you want them or something?

>>163279725
I keep one in Jita just to look at prices

>>163279725
Usually either station traders or miners who've gotten bored

>>163279679
Can't the phoenix be speed tanked by titans?

>>163280123
Yes, the phoenix does not apply to anything other than a citadel. The revelation and naglfar are the only good dreads.

>>163280328
>webs and painters are too hard for me

>300 AUR directly fed to your wallet
>not market-tradeable 300-AUR token unpacked from a box
They learn! How quick!

Reminder that next to none of the alpha players shitting up exploration even know what a safe spot is

Kill them all

>>163281367
>you can still buy and trade skins

>>163280328
>using rage

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How should a newbie get into combat?
Super newbie Omega, bought a sub after 6 days of playing after it went F2P.

I went right for mining barge, then trained drones to 5, then skilled probing/data/relic hacking, and I figured out something.

Living in hi-sec with no corp and trying to scrape pennies SUCKS ASS.

How do I get into combat? I've been a fuggin' carebear for so long, the only combat I did was the agent intro missions and the SoE arc in some shitfit Thrasher.

Mining is sucking due to alpha ventures out fucking everywhere, same for gas, same for exploration which is total shit now. Can I get COLD HARD ISK by doing combat?

>>163281605
So only <301 AUR skins can be abused instead of the whole fucking New Eden Store doing down in flames. Fair.

Also the item ID for the AUR-token containing box exists in the game files, so it was planned all along to distribute AUR tokens in boxes.
Except the booster fiasco happened, and they decided that people stocking hundreds of thousands of AUR for minimal effort would ruin their business model.
They do learn.

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>>163272886
Whos the best race to AC with?

>>163282612
Join a corp, first of all.

PVP doesn't make ISK though. Unless you mean shooting red triangles instead of players, which is easy money.

>300AUR
>100 less than any skin

Holy shit what a bunch of fucking assholes.

>>163282743
Only small and large autos are good

>>163282831
Nice lie you piece of shit. 20 skins and some apparel for 240 each

>>163282831
skins got discounted ya tit

>>163282816
Well since I have 0 experience, red things will work, how do I start?

What ships are quick and easy to train but still not shit? I prefer Minmatar but I know their ships are ass, don't really care what ship I use. I have Minmatar Cruiser to 2, and thats as far as I have any ship skill.

I heard FW was good isk but that sounds way over my carebear ass for now.

>>163282853
>small and large autos
>good

>>163282906
>skins

Skins are trash lad, I could wipe my ass more with the god damn christmas booster than I can with selling a skin

lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqpOjy0XJX8

>>163283110
you could pretend ccp didn't give you anything, if it would make you happier kys____

>medium autos
>bad

>>163283087
I'm a nullsec guy, so my response will be biased towards that.

Step one: join a corp, get the fuck out of highsec.

Step two: exploration and/or salvage while you train for a vexor navy issue

step three: get a fit for said VNI from one of your new corp's ratters or off the forums or whatever, run anomalies, die, repeat.


>>163283110
>he didn't get one of those 200 mil caracal skins

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>>163283243
Honestly, I'm kinda doin' that.

>>163283413
you're also moaning

>>163282853
>tfw there will never be a ship fitting both large and small AC at the same time
Why live

>>163283365
Still have the 300 smart arse. Not gonna bother with it. Until, I get some nice market runnings. Need to still get an odin eye, and let arm camo

How do I have fun in this game?

>come back after a year and a half of absence
>no corp
>run missions for a while to make ISK or something
>want to move back out to null
>no idea who to join

Please send help

>>163283558
Don't play to make enough for PLEX, just take some ships out and blow them up

>>163283576
join tengoo

>>163283528
...m8. day three. glacial drift cruiser skin. caracal was worth 200mil this morning.

Skins are good money.

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>>163283508
?

>>163283615
I did that, joined a null sec alliance and went out on fleets 3x a day. Was pretty boring, couldn't fly anything except tackle and I'd just die instantly. Either that or we'd roam around for 1-2 hours and go home empty handed
The idea of wormhole space sounds fun to me but it takes like 2 years to train into one of the ships that you need

>>163283508
Why would you want to do that?

>>163283930
Kill you are self

>>163283965
Which null group did you join?

>>163284040
pandemic horde, people said that's a good alliance for new players

>>163283365
>VNI

Why is it so based guys? I don't wanna fly a floating booger.

>>163283930
maelstrom has so much grid, and asb uses no cap, so you may as well fit lasers

>>163284284
Drones are OP as shit.

>>163282612
>>163283087
>What ships are quick and easy to train but still not shit?
*T1 guns*
>Thrasher, Catalyst, Dragoon, maybe Algos (but I haven't flown it, and it doesn't get a neut bonus), Talwar for volley..

T2 scales well from there. Cruisers are in another league for price/performance, as the above can go for 2M vs their 15-30M.

My main flown frigates are the Tristan and Imperial Navy Slicer, for range.

>>163283756
Well, shit what the hell do I do with the aur now, seeing as I could've made a killing and bought the shitty arm, and have a portion down

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>pandemic horde, people said that's a good alliance for new players

>>163284412
Sit on it for a while I guess?

>>163284193
Horde are just a bunch of bullies. If you're a miner it's like middle school all over again

>>163284040
>Why would you want to do that?
Versatility. It just feels good to have just the answer for the situation.
It's also kinda like larger sci-fi space ships are meant to be, larger ones carrying all means of armament instead of being specialized one trick ponies.

I know it would never work in a sandbox mmo game.
Would be either a useless gimmick or a specialized (read: not at all versatile) cookie cutter.
That's why it's sad.

>>163283365
Thanks, I appreciate it, I can definitely buy a VNI after a night of high sec plagio mining, but it is fairly expensive for me, training would take about a day which is nothing though, so that is nice.

>>163284383
I like these T1 options, I did the SoE arc mainly in a Thrasher, didn't love it, but it is cheap, as you said.

I guess the best bet is to train toward the VNI, I only have 211m ISK but it's meant to be spent.

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>>163282853
>>163283108
>>163283508

>AC

I was referring to Alpha Clones guise :\

>>163272886
looks like someone I know IRL

>>163284926
so what should I join?

This is an omega-only thread.

>Go to wormhole in VNI
>releasethehounds.avi
>Drink margarita and watch Netflix as all my drones fuck up rats

Thanks for making drones super OP CCP, now I just rat and watch movies.

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>tfw it's finally happening

>>163286254
when will ccp end the afk drone meme

>>163286384
What is?

I have 1050 aurum times two (on two accounts)

Would it be a good idea to buy something now during the sale and make ISK?
What are some good things to buy? I looked at things like rattlesnake skins, vargur skins etc. but they only sell 1 every few days. Very low volume. Great ISK ratio though.

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>>163286786
The day of the rake has come. Merger soon.

>rattlesnake skins

>>163283087
Fit a venture with stabs and tank and defensive plex your heart out. Google all the terms you didn't understand.

>try to learn solo pvp
>roam in a frigate
>noone wants to fight except people in better ships
>lose frigate to a game camp because too bored to check if there is gatecamp
>finally find a good fight in a novi FW plex
>lost and don't even know what to do to improve
fucking eve
Btw any tips are welcome, i was in Kestrel and he was in kiting tristan, i couldn't get close enough for my rockets and he didn't fall for my slingshots. At least i saved my ship lel.

stabbed plexing is the worst thing in the entire game prove me wrong.

>>163287942
fly in a gang. I don't know why people keep telling new players to fly solo

slingshotting is something of a meme, it's harder to catch people than to be the kiting guy. I assume you had a mwd, if you had ab then there's no point even trying you're already dead. I guess shoot the drones while you try, tristans don't have many

>>163287942
>rockets

Found your problem.

>>163288139
you learn a lot by going solo
more than blindly following some FC anyway

>t1 frig
yea boi suck dem suitonia's benis

>>163288374
yeah you learn that you can't do shit and you get fucked nonstop and there's nothing to fight

>get podded in a wormhole
>idiot didn't even let me loot the data site first so he could get it

What is the average intelligence of EVE Players?

Okay let me ask another way: Is there a site that shows isk/aurum conversion rates to show profitable ones like the site that shows which LP items are currently the most profitable?

>>163288556
plex=3400aur

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Okay, how the fuck do I fix this, and anyone know what causes it? Tried reinstalling, no change.

>get 300 free eve bucks
>top tier Moa skin is 250

I can't even complain.

>>163288514
>get podded

you tell me

>Be Minmatar
>Be using Minmashit ships due to liking aesthetic
>Train for a VNI in a day
>Suddenly a beast

CCPLEASE.

>>163288004
For who?

>>163290376
>flying anything but eye sex amarr

why

>>163290678
Everyone.

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>undocking

>>163288514
Wormholers tend to run combat sites and leave exploration sites for bait. Also, why do that when he could open it and not have drop chance involved.

I'm reading guides on some of the basics the tutorial doesn't cover and this one's mentioning binding a hotkey for refreshing directional scan.

But I'm confused because V seems to already do that.
Am I confused or are the guides old?

>hotkey
lazy tard detected

>>163288437
maybe this clown is right and i shouldn't try to learn in t1 frig

>>163288514
Just go to the help channel and see. It's filled with nothing but complete and total retards who have never googled anything in their idiotic lives.

>>163291614
Rookie Chat is awful

There's usually about one person asking reasonable questions (like scanning because those tutorials are awful) and one person answering them

But in between those two responses is about 10 entries of absolute bollocks that even the shitty tutorials explain

What can I do in a VNI?
What level missions?
What ratting?
Can I do wormhole combat sites?

>>163291808
you can do anything at zombo.com
anything at all
the only limit is yourself

>>163291749
Not even talking about that channel, I'm talking about the actual HELP channel, where people aren't even rookies anymore.

They are STILL completely fucking retarded.

>>163291614
Its only gotten worse since Alphas were added, the amount of third worlders asking inane bullshit questions in broken english is maddening

>>163291749
I asked for an overview in there yesterday with a two minute old character, and got flamed for not being more specific than 'anyone have an overview to share'.

Fucking /v/ bros is more helpful.

>>163292195
>/v/
>helpful
it can't be that bad

>>163292271
I was given an overview pack in /v/ bros. I was flamed in rookie help.

>>163292393
>not being able to type "eve overview" in google
I am sorry, but you are the retard here, anon.

>>163292195
I think I was there at the time unless it happened again

There was one person asking something and another telling them to stop trolling and be more specific, then a reply of "I don't know enough to be more specific"

>>163292574
You can't drag from google into game.

>>163292574
That doesn't give me a button in game to push to have a working overview though?

>>163288762
Anyone? I'm still getting this problem.
>Reload
>Reinstall
>Change install folder location for a fresh install and try again
Only thing I haven't tried yet is restarting my PC. What gives?

>overview packs

why don't you just make your own overview? are you not able to decide what things you want on it?

>>163279352
>mining
There really is something wrong with you.

>>163292704
Is that the advice you want to give in rookie help, among questions like 'how do i undock' and 'how I shot guns????'

>>163292645
>>163292639
>not being able to find an overview pack you can install in game after googling for 2 mins

>>163292651
I don't know, the launcher is an annoying and probably unneeded point of failure when it comes to starting the game.
It usually fixes itself eventually, but I haven't seen that particular bug.

>eve online has the hatconomy now
unusual hats when?

Maybe people just don't expect this game to be point and click adventure.

>>163292887
why would you answer questions like that?

and with overviews, someone has given them the impression that they should download one rather than setting it up themself, so I don't know why they know that but haven't already gotten one of these casual premade overviews

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Skins are super cheap, what are the current popular doctrine fleets I should buy skins for?

>>163293110
surely you would already know what meme fleet doctrines your group flies

>>163293110
talwar

>>163293208
Currently alpha returning player, dunno what the current doctrines are since I've read drakes are now shit

>Start mining
>Everyone tells me it's not fun, no isk, etc.
>Start exploration
>Get fit and ship, follow all safety rules, spam d-scan, etc.
>Get podded at first relic site
>Go back to mining

Now I'm 2 days behind thanks to that lose you fools.

I'm making an alpha with the referral code and using the 250k SP to get him in some dumb frigate fit, anyone want to make a corp where we whelp frigs on alts? I'm hoping for a 25% awox rate.

>>163287757
KANE?

>>163293579
How did you get podded if you were following all rules?

>>163293003
I vaguely remember a way to sidestep using the launcher, could you remind me what it is please?

>>163293610
>whelp frigs on alts

join pupper

>>163293932
they disabled it iirc

is pupper and all the other retards in the alliance actually a fun bunch of people to play with?
Are they from /v/?

>Some shitstain cornered the entire market on small ancillary armor repairers and is selling them a fucking stupid price

Fair play.

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>>163294393
>armor tanking

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>>163294085
>they disabled it iirc
Fucking why?

>>163294495
Because CCP.

>>163294484
Sometimes I get tired of playing Caldari master race and I just want to burn towards someone like a retard.

>>163294224
Precursory glances show more or less they're /v/ + /pol/

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>>163294529
I wish this wasn't an acceptable answer.
I wish I didn't understand it perfectly.

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>>163293579
>exploration ship sets you 2 days behind

>>163293920
There's always one faggot in a cloaked astero waiting at the sites

this tutorial doesn't half teach bad habits.

>>163290376
>>Train for a VNI in a day
literally how? doesn't it take like 5 months to train into a VNI

>>163295128
m8, it's a fucking T1 cruiser.

>>163295128
>

>>163295128
uhhhh.... no?
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Vexor_Navy_Issue

>>163283576
Join Pandemic Horde and figure out what to do next from there.

>>163295128
If you wanna make 2 mil ticks then yeah, but that guy is retarded.
Mining in a proc is more profitable per hour if you lack the correct drone, shield and cruiser skills which likely takes 2 months at least with a remap.

>>163277045
It's for the massive amount of American troops that play eve in their bases

>>163295219
>>163295237
>>163295304
>flying a ship with minimum skills required
>not getting core up to IV-V
>>163295526
this guy knows

>>163295526
Uh huh. And just exactly what are you mining in a fucking proc that is worth going back and forth to drop shit off that is anywhere NEAR the profits of even a MINIMALLY outfited VNI?

You've lost your god damn mind.

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>>163295219
>>163295304
>le ebin if you can fly the hull you can fly the ship meme

>>163281514
Do they drop their loot when they die?

>>163295675
Crok :^)

>>163295675
Prime Ankor in my comfy null system, with a hauling alt so I don't need to leave the ore anom.

If you are in a position to rat with a VNI, there are almost always better ways to make isk if you are not full trained.

>>163295914
>Paying for another account to haul shit off
>Being in some shit nullcorp that takes all your ISK and makes you mine in groups

What a fucking cuck.

>>163295759
Nah, alpha clones have asset safety like citadels. When they die their stuff gets delivered to their home station.

>>163295669
>sitting in station for 6 months because muh skills

kys holy shit

>>163288514
>getting podded
rofl
i know ur average intelligence is like 60

>No good way to make ISK in hi-sec

Should I kill myself?

>GO TO NULL
>JOIN A CORP

Suck my ass I don't wanna do any of that bullshit.

Why the fuck is the tutorial teaching people to stop their ship constantly, autopilot around, and not actually bothering to explain how to set a destination or warp to something?

CCP I thought you updated this thing.

>>163296257
EVE is not a single player game, if you don't want to play with other people then you're not going to have an easy or fun time of it.

That said, highsec incursions till shit isk all over your face, assuming you can fly a t2 fit battleship.

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>>163296084
>he doesn't have a PI and hauler alt to allow him to mine more efficiently while he trains pvp skills
>implying I still don't make profits a magnitude higher than possible with any other form of mining regardless of tax
>implying there is something wrong with mining in a big group of people bantering and watching movie streams together

Pleb.
You should probably play this game some more before making these assumptions.
>nullcorps are for cucks
>VNI is best isk making with no skills
>a ship with low skills is similair to a ship with high skills
>hauler alts are unreasonable to have

>>163296275
Yeah, while they did update it, it's still shit.

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my laser crystal can is full

>Have to make isk
>Train for a way someone says to make lots of isk
>Read it doesn't make isk
>untrain
>Repeat until I just go back to hi-sec mining.

>>163293579
>2 days behind
???
you make 500k/day mining?
i make that from a single fucking can exploring

>>163296650
Use some then, you hoarder.

>>163296257
Going to null is the solo option, you can't not take it and then complain about corps

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>>163296932
don't be ridiculous

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>>163296836
He should be making that from 1 and 1/4 of a venture load. It's not a lot of money by any stretch.

Also, 500k a can is not worth exploring for, get out of highsec.

>>163296257
then get fucked and come back to complain about it later so we can laugh for a bit

>>163296650
>noscorch

>>163297030
>Also, 500k a can is not worth exploring for, get out of highsec.

highsec is like 50k a can, retard

>not making 1b per can
get out of high sec

>>163297109
459 scorch actually

>>163296417
I'm a newbie, would take a long time to get one.
Is there a good T2 Minmatar battleship?

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>>163297138
>implying you are only making 500k a can anywhere else than highsec

If this is true, and you are using some kind of algorith to calculate this (profit-loss/number of cans) per can, you are ban and you should feel bad.

If you mean you are just getting 500k per can in low/null/WH, you are the unluckiest bastard to have ever played Eve, and are unlucky enough that your can isk is in the realm of nigh-impossible.


(Although, I am still sure you are a highsec shitter)

>>163297363
T2 battleships are only for faggot shit m8

>>163297453
i didnt say i was only making 500k a can

i said i made more than he made in a day from a single can

read a book, nigger

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ccpls

>>163297363
t2 fit, not t2 battleship. A maelstrom should be okay.

>NPC corp has someone sperging out that EVE is "not nice" and "that's why I'm gonna stay alpha, as it will cost CCP money"
fucking lol

>>163297696
whats the issue

>>163297575
You're also kinda bullshitting because you can make 500k in about 10 minutes mining the asteroids right outside the fucking university spawn points

>>163297970
>implying i know how much mining makes

how the fuck would i know that?

>>163297787
why isn't that 28m buy order being filled, and why is 21m the highest immediate sell price? shit's all delayed or showing nonexistent orders or I'm retarded

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Daily reminder to not use the OP link for your referral, he will keep the PLEX and you will get nothing.

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Today's gift is: another glacial drift skin and a hat

>>163297787
Place a lowball buy order for any loot that drops in level 1-3 missions. Its a great way to make isk. New players will always make the immediate sale. So if you have a buy order out for 100 units of X item at 20,000isk, but the market average is 100,000isk, you can stand to massively profit from every time a newbie offloads their loot. Even if they do look at the market details they can't choose to sell their stuff to the person with the highest buy order.

If there are standing buy orders for a part you should be able to choose the highest one you want to sell to. Buyers have preference, sellers don't. Thats bullshit.

>>163298342
They could be scamming

>>163298381
...there's a plex? I just wanted the 250k skillpoints :3

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>>163297575
>>163296836
>"I make that"

Mmhhmm

>>163297970
They are both bullshitting, the original guy for saying it takes him two days to make, and the second guy for saying he makes that on average per can.

I remember when /eog/ was not full of shitters. When people would actually call me out on game mechanics.
Where have all the non-alpha shitters actually gone?
They have left this thread to be full of
>hull skills is all you need
>mining makes 0 isk
>exploration is only 500k per can in low/null/WH

Fuck why do I come here.

>>163298381
Did he scam you?

>>163298446
if that was the case, wouldn't I be able to do an immediate sell for 28m, which would then fail and cancel his order? it won't let me

margin trading is the dumbest shit they should remove it desu

>>163298732
The game doesn't let you. Buy orders are filled from the bottom up. It lets people skim from new players, intentionally disadvantaging players unless they set their own sell orders.
Its the worst part of the market system, and CCP should have their faces shoved into it like a dog in his own shit.

Its not a strictly free market system.

>>163298381
Eh if I referred myself I'd just end up with 30 days of gametime on an account I don't want to play

Let him have the PLEX

>>163296257
>I don't want to engage with other players in an MMO

Yes, you should probably kill yourself.

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>>163298409
>Buyers have preference
they dont, you always buy from the lowest sell order. you're just free to overpay
>sellers don't
you always sell to the highest bid that covers the item location

>>163299153
In their defence some people are playing EVE because it's the only good trading game out there rather than because it's an mmo

>>163298395
Not even a Santa hat.

>>163298568
are you black? because you read worse than niggers i know

>>163299257
If you are buying an item, you can choose to buy from literally anyone selling. You can choose the lowest price, you can choose the closest item. You have preference.

If you are selling an item in an immediate sale, you are forced to sell to the lowest buyer. If you want to ensure you get a fair market rate you have to put out a sell order and wait for someone to buy it from you. You have no preference, you have no control.

This is buyer preference. You. Are. Retarded.

>>163299534
>If you are buying an item, you can choose to buy from literally anyone selling. You can choose the lowest price, you can choose the closest item. You have preference.

this is not how it works. when you 'choose' the more expensive order, all you're doing is buying from the cheaper order, but for the more expensive amount of isk

>>163299534
i hope you're just baiting, senpai
https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203218932-Buy-and-Sell-Orders

>>163299708
no it will make oyu pay for the cheap one

>>163299837
You're a fucking idiot if you purposely choose the more expensive option down the list you'll get the item from the cheapest order except you'll just give him more money than his order is set for

>>163299837
no, I just tested it

>>163299958
>>163299987
if yu pick the 28m order and theres one for 21m you will pay 21 and get the 21m order

ive tested this

>>163299708
Are you a fucking Brazilian or something? You'd have to be in order to be this ungodly dumb.

>>163299826
Educate yourself.
Common faction dog tags have average prices of 7,000isk to 500,000isk depending on their level. There are standing buy order for most of them around 100isk each, massively lower than average selling price. If you try to sell them in an immediate sale you are forced to sell to that low ball buy order.

You as a seller do not get to choose to sell to an individual player.
But if you are buying something you can do just that.

>>163300073
>if yu pick the 28m order and theres one for 21m you will pay 21 and get the 21m order
No if you pick the 28m isk order you get the 21m isk item and you pay 28m isk

>>163300085
what did I say that was dumb

>>163300073
if you're talking about the gistii mwd, the 28m order is broken or margin trading or something, as is the one below it

>>163300352
no i was just making an example

>>163300214
No you pay 21m

>>163300567
No you pay 28m for an item that costs 21m

you're an idiot

Well this is the definition of asinine

>>163300708
No you pay 21m, dumbass

>>163300924
I'm literally logging in to prove you wrong

so who's right faggots i am waiting here

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>Finally explore in a wormhole
>Get awesome relics
>Get destoryed
>mfw

Looks like it's back to mining azure plagio in high sec for me.

>>163301930
I made the classic pirate/unsecured mixup and died immediately losing all my beginner probes

>>163301930
take what you learned here and go back to the wormhole

>>163301915
It was actually 23m all along

>>163301915
I am, as I described here:
>>163300085
>>163299534
>>163298409

I see people selling PLEX on ebay for like 10 bucks.

Whats the catch? Super highly rated and all that, why wouldn't you just buy from ebay?

They also just sell ISK, how is that even legal.

>>163303641
Probably got some Chink kids to ISK farm for it for pennies a hour or something

>>163303641
You can buy PLEX from irl game stores

They probably escape sales tax by selling it on ebay hence the lower price

Plus regional pricing

>>163303865
Yeah but like, that's a fuckin' steal.
You can get 2 of them from ebay vs one from CCP.

>>163304062
They do not make PLEX cards or sub cards anymore because CCP is filled with a bunch of fucking morons.

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>>163303236
>>163300924
ok shitheads

observe

two orders for the same station for gas cloud harvester I

one for 2.099m, the other for 2.1m

I will buy the 2.1m one with 5 units.

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>>163304370
ok here I am buying 1 of the gas cloud harvester for 2.1m even

>>163304370
>posting irrelevant garbage

This has literally nothing to do with buyers having market preference. There is only one standing buy order there.
If you tried to make an immediate sale it would go to him regardless.

If there were a dozen other buy orders at 2mil isk, and you made an immediate sale, you would be selling to the guy asking 1,560isk. You don't have a choice in the matter. You cannot pick someone wanting to buy at a higher price.
As a seller you have no preference for who you sell to.

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>>163304546
and here it is

I purchased from the 2.1m isk order, paid 2.1m isk but bought from the cheapest order

Notice how the picture in >>163304370
features 20

then the picture here features 19 even though I purchased from the more expensive order

this means I paid MORE money for an already cheaper item

Protip: buy from the cheapest order, don't give the cheapest seller more isk than he lists

>>163304720
it works the same for sell and buy orders there is no difference

>>163304857
Thats dead fucking wrong, you retard.
If you're buying an item you can buy from anyone you want.
If you're selling an item you cannot.
If someone places a low ball buy order it skews the immediate buy option towards them. You are forced to sell to them first and foremost. You cannot choose who you sell an item do, you can only choose who you buy from.


I can only repeat myself so many times. Get it through your malformed autismal brain.

>>163305146
>If you're buying an item you can buy from anyone you want.
NIGGER I JUST PROVED IT WRONG
>>163304370
>>163304546
>>163304728
you CANT choose from who you want for the same order in the same station

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>If you're buying an item you can buy from anyone you want

>>163305221
You didn't prove anything except that your IQ is sub 70 and you can't retard.
This is irrefutable fact. Lowball orders skew the market because you cannot choose who you sell to.

If an item have an average selling price of 100,000isk, and 1 guy comes along and puts out a buy order for that item at 100isk, the immediate sale item price will be 100isk. You are forced to sell to him.
This happens constantly. It is a base mechanic of the market that is manipulated specifically because it works. New players selling mission loot will hit that immediate sale, and they will sell to lowballers who turn around and relist it at a higher price later.

>>163305221
you fucking retard he means you can't choose a BUY order you want to SELL TO

>>163305516
>gets shown proof
>YOU DIDNT PROVE ANYTHING
>spews the same falsehood again

>>163305582
>I can't read
>all I do is greentext

Autism

>>163305558
Yes we always knew that you can't sell to what ever buy order you want and you can't buy from any sell order you want for the same orders in the same station

>>163305675
no u

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>I put up a buy order for estamel's invulns for 1 isk
>everyone is forced to sell to me

Even tho this general is low-tier I still love it.

>you can only pick who you want to buy from
>gets proven wrong that you can't pick who you want to buy from
>throws a fit, changes the subject then calls everyone else retarded

>>163305717
>Yes we always knew that he was right
>I'm just trying to argue with him for no reason

Autism.

>>163305836
It happens, and it works. If the item drops in any mission where newish players have access to it, you can guarantee they will be selling it in an immediate sale.
The only warning you get is the little pop up that says that its -99.9% below average.

>>163306154
>It happens, and it works.
Only works if you set your buy order sort from least to greatest and if you have that (which means you fucked with the default) you're retarded and deserve it

>the only warning you get
should be the warning that tells you you're about to fuck up big time

>>163306154
You can choose who you sell to in an immediate sale though, you just hit the advanced button and change the isk amount on the sell order to the same isk amount as the highest buy order.

Fucking russians man

You guys are stupid as fuck.
What is a good cheap PvE ratter or early 1/2 mission runner?

>>163306469
Caracal

>>163306469
any frig or destroyer

>>163306539
Then what for 3/4/5?
I really just wanna rat but it seems like a lot more trouble than it's worth.

>>163306154
>It happens, and it works. If the item drops in any mission where newish players have access to it,
>estamels

weew lad

>>163306678
a cruiser should be able to do level 3's for which >>163306513
is correct although a battlecruiser will be better and faster and so will a battleship even further than that.

for level 4's are pretty exclusive to things like battleships, T3 cruisers, etc

Level 5 missions require carriers

>>163306678
Any BC for 3s, Any BS for 4s, get a carrier or some shit for 5s

>>163306678
>3
your battlecruiser of choice or faction cruiser I guess
>4
your battleship of choice
>5
carrier, but you need to find a way to not die because 5s aren't in babby highsec

I recommend not doing pve, it's gay as shit

>>163306782
>>163306786
Thanks dudes.

>>163298342
if you put up a buy order with price that exceeds matching sell orders then it will auto buy stuff from the cheapest seller with your proposed price

if your immediate sell order doesn't match the highest buy order price then it might be margin trade scam, or/also minimum volume limit where you need to sell say 50 5MN MWD to that guy to get the 28m price but again margin trade scam will prevent you from doing that as he doesn't have enough ISK to buy.

>>163306279
sorting doesn't change who you are selling to

>>163306819
Need to make ISK and this sounds best since Alpha's can't shit it up.

>>163306953
yea it actually does

>>163306994
No anon, pls stop embarrassing yourself
You also cannot pick who you buy from, only the station where you do
t. trader

>Finally got enough to PLEX as an alpha
I'm actually going to cry guys.

>>163307093
>t. retard who thinks a 1sk buy order will automatically be sold to when there are a plethora of buy orders more expensive than his

Where do explorers sell their shit?

Do they fly back to high/low sec to find a station?

>>163307182
no, a 1isk order will only ever be filled if it's the highest in the region (happens rarely outside hub regions)

>>163307259
yes. pls don't sell your stuff to shitty scam prices, i.e. significantly worse than trade hub prices

>>163307259
Yeah, then either make a courier for the loot to Jita, or go there yourself

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>>163297696
>>163298342
yep, just checked it ingame, it's margin trade scam + minimum volume

>>163307303
then why are you bitching about such a sleuth here? >>163306154
>It happens, and it works. If the item drops in any mission where newish players have access to it, you can guarantee they will be selling it in an immediate sale.
The only warning you get is the little pop up that says that its -99.9% below average.

I haven't played in 3 years. What should be my top priority if I get back into it?

>>163307259
Unless there's some Corp setup they usually fly all the way to Jita

>>163307475
depends what do you want to do?

>>163307458
oh thanks anon. I think I had the min volume column hidden or something, didn't even occur to me

>>163307259
I stockpile them and wait for a wormhole that lands me near Jita or some other trade hub

>>163307448
>>163307383
Cheers

It was the one thing missing from the guides I read, presumably because it's obvious

>>163307463
not me

>>163307586
I want to have fun in my spare time.

>>163307786
Well what do you like to do for fun?

>>163307858
Shitpost about things I know nothing about

>>163307475
buying plex and finding a corp, the usual

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>>163307153

>>163307475
You can have a shitton of fun whelping ships as an alpha, meet some people and socialize. Not being Omega forces you to experience different content and not worry about scrambling for plex

How does Faction Warfare work?
Can I pick any ship or just racial ones?
Does it make good ISK?

>>163309084
>scrambling for plex
nigga i just pay sub

>>163308384
That's not a lot of ISK, why are you even posting this?

>>163309319
>How does Faction Warfare work?
it doesnt

>>163309375
>That's not a lot of ISK
That's the point, it's easy to get a few bil as an alpha if you aren't retarded.

>>163309084
I seem to have had 3 accounts running simultaneously for some reason. Is there a way to check what I was doing on them and which one I should be playing on without resubbing?

>>163309320
>>163309084
This. Don't get me wrong, I'm really cheap when it comes to things like this, but it's easy to put things into perspective, I mean the sub is like a third or fourth of what a night out drinking would cost, and it's only once per month, and I never say no to drinking. So, uh, the moral here is that alcoholism and eve go well together I guess.

>>163309538
just log in

>>163309818
Neat

>>163309538
Now that there's f2p you can just log into them all and have a look in game

How does wormhole work now? Does static wormhole automatically create the K162 exit on the other side without needing anyone to warp to it?

>>163309648
Drunk fleets are best fleets

Rupture or Stabber for ratting?

Where the hell do I get 1/2/3/4/5 missions from, I dunno where to start.

Do I just go from station to station looking for a level 1 Miltary NPC?

>>163310405
E > Business > Agent Finder

Is Eve University any good, assuming for a newbie?

>>163294224
>>163294790
Pupper is from /ss13g/

>Tfw you get a Caracal skin

>>163309468

it may be a good idea to teach alphas about skill injectors until they hit the alpha cap,


then show them how to ishtar in null to plex themselves each month and get themselves to 50m SP in under a year.


unless they realy don't like blue sec or are horridly anti-social.

>ishtar ratting
>good
>social
wew lad

>>163311192
How do I get in null? Should I make a fresh new character so people don't question why my 1 year old character was stuck in NPC corp?

>>163311726
No one will care.

>>163311812
Where do I start then?

>>163310641
They seem pretty good but I've never dealt with them. If you're the type that can do your own research alongside what they teach you it should be better, I think.

>>163311859
Apply to pandemic horde or brave newbies

>>163311941
>Brave Newbies

Gross.
PH are cucks, but at least they have content and actually win wars.

>>163312146
Not that guy but I started in BNI and I've never had a greater time of my life in EVE, I fucking adore their leadership. Good people all.

>>163311941
Thank you good anon, but man I hate making choices like these.

>>163313014
You gotta make a choice about what corp you join man, it'll really define how you enjoy the game.

>>163312146
I'm really enjoying BRAVE desu

>>163310641
yes, they're a good corp to check out everything the game offers if you don't know what to do yet

Think about all the hours you've wasted playing this game. Imagine a life where you did something productive with just 20% of those hours instead.

>>163314438
wasting time thinking about how you waste your time. very meta, anon

>>163314438
Is it really wasted time if you're enjoying yourself?

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>>163314438
I estimate that I have spent over 8000 hours in MMOs. This game will just help to grow that counter.

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Redpill me on Planet Interaction
Do I just train an alt in planet management/customstaxes, ship him off to a no-traffic dead end nullsec system and have him play space farmville for 10 mins a day and make isk hand over fist?

>>163315156

Pretty much, yeah. You can also rat with the alt, I suppose.

>>163315397
too easy to be true, what's the catch?

>>163315576

Boredom and you have to haul the goods out of there.

>>163315156
>>163315397
don't factory planets need a POCO otherwise you'll just be collecting the base raw materials?

>>163315740

I kinda assumed someone doing PI would have the sense to put one down.

>>163298395
eve can't even do hats right

>hat is just a hairstyle
>men and women go bald just by putting on a hat

can't make this shit up

>>163316271

Eve is a game about:

>spaceships
>pew pews in space

It is not a game about:

>hats
>barbies

Even though they did a stab in that direction and missed by a mile.

>>163316498
character customization is a big part of video games now, even if they have 0 effect on gameplay. even pokemon has it now.

>>163316604

It's a neccessary evil to get past and into the actual gameplay, nothing more. CCP is infamous for implementing new shit nobody wanted and leaving it unfinished.

>The Drifter controlled Force Auxiliary ship in the tutorial has had its salvage amounts updated (all races).

What's this? Did it give insane amount of vage or too little?

>>163316604
>character customization
>in a game where you never see your character

Pilots in EVE might as well not even exist. They could let you upload any profile avatar you wanted and it would still be the exact same game.
For all intents and purposes you're nothing but an AI in a pod.