One Piece Games General - /opgg/

first for DR

Oh boy, first for KILL YOURSELF
I hope this thread gets deleted because of the op

3rd for a thread with no nigger babble and homosexual autism

>>163259891
second for Orbs!

DRfags on suicide watch

>>163259953
U can't believe Thatch is fucking dead....

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I want Sugar to sit on my face while calling me pathetic and disgusting.

This thread is giving me violent emotions

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ded game, ded thread

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>ywn lick Sugar's juicy little feet

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Reminder Red Force soon.

DR fags on suicide watch.

Anyone here roll for a Christmas unit? Did you get one? Or how many tries did it take you to get one?

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>>163259908

>you will never lick jewjulies stinky ham feet

>>163260914
Why did you become such a bad namefag all of a sudden

>>163260825
>>163260176
>>163259782
>never watched One Piece
>see a better version of Schierke/Tatsumaki

Now I'm interested

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CHECK 'EM

>>163261196
shes actually 2000 years old

>>163261452
delete this

>>163261305
Summer Baccarat when?!

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>>163261196
She only appears on chapter 680 something though

>>163260796
tBh Corazon is so cool of a character I hope Brook awakens his fruit in the future and becomes able to resurrect people and Law asks him to resurrect Cora

>>163262365
I'm still in Baratie arc before they meet the rest of the crew. I still have not fapped to Tatsumaki

>>163262497
Fuck no.

>>163262645
fuck off

>>163262497
He will use his awakening to channel the spirits of the rumbars through the sound dial that he keeps in his afro to sing for Laboon one last time.

>>163259782
Shitter here, just started playing on JP with a rerolled Kizaru account. Where does he rank among the legends?

>>163262917
He's trash!

>>163262917
He's great!

so who's gonna fight who on the eventual BB crew vs Strawhats?
Luffy - BB
Zoro - Shiryu
Usopp - Van Augur
Chopper - Doc Q
Robofranky - San Juan Wolf
Sanji - Burgess?
???

>>163262497
Pretty sure Brook being able to move his soul around and out of his body, is his awakened ability.

>Can't login for shit

What the fuck is going on

>the minks will never garchu you
why live

>>163263336
Franky vs Burgess
Giant Robin vs Sanjuan Wolf
Nami vs Katarina
Brook vs Laffitte
Franky vs Vasco Shot
Caesar Clown vs Avalo Pizarro

>>163264610
>Franky gets 2 fights
>no Sanji

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>>163264691
>Sanji
>Strawhat

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You will never have Robin blow you with a mouth full of tongues and lips.

You will never penetrate Robin anally through a gauntlet of 20 tight assholes

You will never sleep on a bed of her lush breasts.

why live?

>>163264610
>not Jimbei vs Burgess

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>>163264830
>Robin
Wrong choice

>>163264953
but Robin is literally the only person that can do that due to her DF

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A happy Carrot is a cute Carrot

We full /a/utism now

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How is your Marguarite doing?

>1 skillup needed
>fucking 3/2 sockets just kill me

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>>163265746
Finished skill up, and I'm 5/2 bind/autoheal on her, dont really feel like finishing her up

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>>163265746
I got my final socket today, she is done.

Also got 30 books today too with no gems spent, kind of surprised. Now I don't know if I should gem twice so I can level to grind some more.

>>163263336
>>163264610
How

BEDLAMITE YOU FUCK FIRST YOU FUCK ME OVER WITH THAT SHIT ENEL YOU TOOK FOREVER TO SOCKET THAT STILL ISNT DONE AND NOW
FUCKING NOW YOU ARE PUTTING DR ON SW SHANKS I SWEAR GET IT TOGETHER

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>>163267934
>falling for the orbs meme

>>163268420
that's baccarat preemptive faggot terrible bait 0/10

>>163268420
>sw shanks not that gay nigger
shut up

>>163267862
how what

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Best scene coming through.

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>>163269016
shit translation

>>163268517
I don't think it is, based on the cooldowns it looks like it's 7 turns in.
Assuming he cleared every stage in 1 turn that would be his first turn attacking Dice I think.

>>163269016
Makes me want click the center

>>163261196
Shes in the latest arcs. You need to read most of it to meet her.

>>163269154
>speedrunning with a team that REQUIRES stalling on tesoro's special in order to beat Dice in case of bad orbs
that makes it even worse, he's fucking stupid

>>163269289
I mean yes, but the point was just that wasn't due to Bacarrat's special. He also could have been going out of his way to make sure he only got bad orbs to take the screenshot, which is why he cropped out the fact he was in a training forest or some shit.

all these units in the new Hannyabal FN look like meme units
maybe the Bulgori is fine to farm a bit since he removes BLK

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>>163268420
Lv 2 is pretty gud

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>>163269154
correct.
this was on Dice's first turn.

>>163269289
you do not have to stall with this team at all. just take all 3 turns to kill Dice because you will due to lv 3 orbs being a fucking lie and his special is ready after baccarat's preemptive.

>>163269935
mabel exit the premises

>>163269541
>1.3x conditional boost
Super situational, but pretty good, don't underestimate.

>>163270305
ye I guess you are right, but I don't have many things that poison
I should look into that

>>163267934
I said you could delete me if my Enel wasn't up to industry standards by this point though.

>>163270897
>tfw this new years is the first time you'll actually be good enough to farm Enels
soon I won't be one of those 20+ turn Enel shits

>>163271136
>90 enel in
>just halfway done with socket and skillup

no you wont

>>163270897
listen here bedlafuck dont you dare give me permission to trim up my own friends list i will slap ur shit round twice over

get that fucking DR off your shanks and get orbs on it ASAP

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>Everyone waking up to how shitty orbs is and how better DR works on units like Tesoro on Shanks
>Only one angry autist remains spamming his obsolete understanding of the game
Feels good being right

>>163271254
well I have 160 gems
I'll farm at least 60-70 Enels, will hopefully get me some skillups, don't expect to finish sockets with that though

>>163271304
If it makes you feel any better, I won't put DR on SW Ace if I ever pull him

>>163271772
>someone who doesnt own shanks telling people what to put on shanks

>>163271897
putting DR on SW shanks is fucking worse you retard what are you reducing? you never ever get hit by anything and if you do you lose all your damage what are you saving yourself from 400 dmg you still lose all your damage

how can you be this fucking stupid

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>>163271921
You are alone.
Everyone has been converted.
There is nothing you can do to stop progress.

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>>163272032
>what are specials
>healers don't exist
>being this bad at the game

>>163272260
If you're using a special to heal, the DR isn't going to matter you idiot.

>>163272260
>ever taking non preemptive damage on a SW Shanks team

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>>163272729
DR is for stalling you goddamn ape, not for survival.

>>163272793
Stop posting.

>>163272979
>DR for stalling
That's what autoheal is for. DR isn't helping you fucking stall you idiot.

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>>163273035
>Taking less damage doesn't help you stall
Can't believe I'm actually having this discussion.

>>163273148
>taking 3% less damage helps you stall
I can't believe you actually think that. Yes, stopping that 60 damage off the 2k hit from the creep really fucking helped.

>>163273239
Check your brain, it's 10% if you didn't actually go for orbmeme on Shanks and Tesoro.

>>163273336
if you're in a situation where 200 health saves you, you just need to level your units

>>163266190
Are you me? Those are my exact stats for her as well.

I am not finishing her sockets as I can replace any member of the dream team with a completely unsocketed character and still have max bind/despair/ah/CDR

>>163269935
>not just slam fisting the entire fortnight with SW Shanks + level 3 orbs and never seeing anything but dat golden orb pussy

how will DR frags ever compete?

>>163273402
What part of "It's for stalling" don't you fucking understand.
You're a fucking SW Shanks team with 10k HP and you have to stall 14 turns with fodder hitting 4-5k every turn because it's a colosseum. If you don't think DR will be useful in that situation you seriously have brain problems.

>>163273336
>SW shanks
2x captians who boost psy orb rate,

this added with level 3 orbs makes your psy orb rate so dank it's near full board every round.

this added with red force makes your golden cock so hard it fucks the asses of DR faggots till they puke matching orbs from their mouths.

and faggots unironically would get DR on a legend who's whole existence is to stack that matching orb pussy so he never needs a manipulator.

lmao dr fags.

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>>163273825
You have to be over 13 to post.

>>163272260
>thank god i blocked that 600 damage now i can pop my heal that will save me thanks to my 15 sockets of DR
>thank god healing is only possible if you fully socket DR
wooooooooow
>>163272979
>literally has no argument
yeap average DR shitter
>>163273336
>names two units that will have 6% total claims itll be 10%
>>163273614
>saving yourself from 500-400 damage is going to save the run
lellllllllll
>>163273825
this guy knows

>>163273825
I like your way of expressing yourself anon. You paint word pictures.

>>163273614

if your on a SW shanks team you:

a. Don't fucking take hits to stall
b. Have level 5 autoheal and don't fucking take hits to stall
c. have RR marco/Mansherry to give you 100% hp and don't fucking take hits to stall
d. want matching orbs so you never risk taking a hit from trash and you don't fucking take hits to stall.
e. use a damage reducer and don't take fucking hits to stall
f. use a delayer and don't fucking take hits to stall

the highest cooldown you will ever fucking use on a shanks team is raid boa at 14 cd, reduced to 12 cd with sockets.

if you waste sockets on 10% dr because you can't stall 10~ turns you should fucking kill yourself.

>>163273614
>being this mad
you're NEVER going to be in a situation where shaving off 400 out of that 4k hit is gonna save you (yeah yeah not literally save you as in not killing you, but actually needing this hp to stall for specials)
level your specials or don't use shit units with max splevel 19+ turns

>>163273986
>lord no argument strikes again
post your mabel so i can delete you

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>All these orbfags mad that their shitty socket is dissapearing from the global meta
Who needs a Sugo when there are plenty hot-red posters in this thread already.

alright i know you guys need to shitpost once in a while to relieve your autism, but ease off the pedal just a tad, speedracer.

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ok fuck this argument, I want to hear your theories on whats gunna go down in the Big Mom arc, how are the strawhats gunna get out of this one?

>>163274376
this is for game discussion not anime discussion you fat sensitive nigger

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>tfw you started the DR vs Orbs meme

>>163274376
random ass pull

>>163274376
I like the theory that no one actually likes Big Mom and there's gonna be some sort of rebellion against her

>>163274503
>anime
>manga

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And as the orbaby fad died, everything orbabies could do was scream and shout before dissapearing forever.

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>>163274503

>Zeeni is resorting to uploading literal hearthstone videos now
kek

>>163274606
I like the theory too, it was kinda foreshadowed when she killed that dude, that they are all just living in fear of her so if luffy can show she can be beaten shit will hit the fan real fast

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I dont think SW ace needs DR since shooter CDs are so low it wont matter, but between Red Force Tesoro and SW shanks theres no reason to go past lv 1 orbs, youre just wasting sockets at that point but its not like you have anything else to put intoget ahead of the curve and get poison and map damage on PSY Marco

everyone else benefits from DR in some way because it works with maxed autoheal. it lets other teams stall on things they couldnt and makes more teams viable.


>stall on hits that do 5000
>can already heal for 4500
>DR make the hit only do 4500
>I can now stall on things i couldn't before because I maxed DR and Heal


but hey these are probably the same dumbasses who said autoheal was a meme socket so I wonder why you folks waste time arguing when you dont lose or gain anything from either socket on those teams.

>>163274880
This isn't his first time, he did a 100 pack opening like a year ago

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>>163275179
>DR on SW Ace
I fully support DR on Tesoro/Shanks, but this is going full retard. SW Ace is a unit that actually needs matching orbs to do damage, you can have Kizaru or Heracles sure but those won't work on awfully hard Colos or Forests, where you need to burst several units one after the other, and matching orbs are an absolute necessity. Plus, he reaches up to 40k HP which means he can tank a lot of shit.
Please do not socket your Aces with DR, or Fujitoras or Jimbeis.

>>163275179
>wasting sockets
kys

If I had the option, I'd have 30 Autoheal, 30 Bind, 30 Despair, and 30 CDR sockets on every single team. None of those would be a waste.

>>163275603
>up to 40k
if you have the ship, an usual SW Ace team has 60k hp

Why. Can't. We. Have. Both?

>>163275794
Not enough sockets.

>>163275179
Name one situation where your need 10% DR to stall on anything.

[spoilers]You can't because it's shit[/spoiler]

If you weren't a cuck you'd realize SW shanks doesn't actually use Red Force, Shank's best boosters aren't Cerebral.

You never take hits on a Shanks team, if your taking damage on a shanks team to the point where Autoheal level 5 can't recover the blows. you've fucked up the run.

Ace doesn't need 10% dr to stall, ace teams with striker have 60k hp, and any stalling ace team uses legend marco.

there is not a single instance where 10% dr is nessisary to let a team stall longer than it could normally, and the only Legend you could justify it for is Whitebeard, solely because he doesn't want auto-heal sockets.

>>163275794
Because you can't. DR requires more investment than orbs, which is why orbs is the better 5th socket. You should never throw Orbs or DR on anyone with less than 5 sockets.

>>163275952
What's the general SW Shanks team?

>>163275986
Name one situation where you need Level 5 Autoheal.

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>>163276119

>>163275986
>and the only Legend you could justify it for is Whitebeard
I definitely think that you put DR on Whitebeard just because you can't afford to always have AH active, but I am finding myself moving away from the never ever AH on WB mindset.

I think Autoheal is either negligible or useful for him in a lot of situations.

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>>163275986
>Name one situation where your need 10% DR to stall on anything

apparently you did not read the post because i said theres no point in either socket for them.
Watch me put DR on Enel,Marco, WB and Fuji because past lv1 once again is a waste and plenty of subs can take care of that. almost every driven sub has 4 slots you could easily get both if you wanted to

>>163276085
>max DR is 15 points
>max orbs is 20 points
>DR requires more investment than orbs

>>163276312
Jinbe forest,
Shanks forest
Enel forest
Doffy Forest,
etc

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You guys are misunderstanding Shanks.
He's not a "hard-content" unit, he can't do Colosseums, he can't do forests, and he can hardly do raids too.
You don't get DR on him because all you're going to use him for is fortnights and story content, he's just a straight out garbage captain and all he is worth is clearing fortnights fast with lots of matching orbs.
There is no point in taking DR on Shanks, because you will never take him with you on actually hard content.

>>163276402
The general consensus for both Croc and WB is to have a little auto heal on the team, not a lot though.

>>163276402
Lots of japs actually started running 2 whitebeards, one with Autoheal and one with Enviromental

>>163276435
Except Shanks can't do any of those so Autoheal is useless there

>>163276424
If you don't max DR, it's worthless, so yes it requires more investment than orbs.

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I swear you fuckers dont even try

>>163277036
I mean it requires 5 fully socketed rr units, with one being a legend, potentially two being legends, but I have to admit I'm impressed.

>>163276424
Orbs is a always active RNG reducing element where DR is a redundancy on auto heal that is never needed.

Orbs at level 1-3 is always a added benefit

How many times have you gotten a bad orb roll and taken hits from trash for it? Lost a forest because of bad orbs, etc.

I've never had a single occurance in any content where I thought:
"Man that 10% damage reduction would have helped me out there"

>>163276717
>autoheal is useless because shanks can't do some forests

yeah sure faggot get orbs instead of autoheal on SW shanks then.

Max autoheal on any team allows you to use Whitebeard ship for the HP bonus which is more of a net benefit to HP pool you would ever see from DR.

>>163277348
I run every possible colo with Enel and being able to shave 1k off of a 10k per 2 turn hit where i heal for for 4500 has made things so much easier

meanwhile in forests i run lv 3 orbs and still get fucked by bad rng on stages 17-19. the problem is that the increase in orbs is just too small to make a difference, not that DR is any better when it comes to forests but everywhere else it works because its not as redundant as you think.

>>163276484
Doesn't that work both ways? Since you're not using him on harder endgame content then having anything higher than lvl 1 orbs is still just added luxury and therefore ultimately doesn't matter

>>163275179
>theres no reason to go past lv 1 orbs
if you dont own SW shanks why bother to give your opinion with lvl 3 orbs your board is full of yellow almost every turn

with lvl 1 orbs and double sw shanks you dont even get half the board full half the time just fuck off

also the only thing you will heal with on a SW shanks team is 3d2y chooper who heals for 5k so gratz you reduced the hit from 5k to 4500 then healed with a special for 5k what a fucking idiot

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>>163277731
So you're basically a f2p plebian who depends on double enel for everything?

lol well no wonder your opinion is shit.

>>163277036
>Caesar and Fuji
>perfect

>Doffy
>okay

>Trebol, Diamante, and Coby
>scramble to get every garbage socket possible

I'll pass.

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>>163277782
because when i run lv 1 orbs with a shanks friend, my board is nearly full almost every turn, sometimes i run lv 2 with a buddy and get garbage the whole run because thats how RNG works you double nigger.

and for the last time i said DR wasnt useful on shanks learn to read nigger.

>>163278193
like i just told you
the only way you get full board of orbs almost every turn is with lvl 3 otherwise your damage is highly reduced

>>163277782
>with lvl 1 orbs and double sw shanks you dont even get half the board full half the time
But that's wrong you walnut
And when Red Force comes it's going to be even more wrong. Shit, double sw shanks with no orb sockets still gets you half the board at least half the time

>>163278096
>he doesn't want to optimize his build
well alright have fun with not having complete sockets

>>163278193
>I had rng bad one run
>the next 100 runs with increased rng won't matter

lol.

>>163278324
>muh dream team fag
As if you know anything about "optimal".

>>163278320
no it fucking isnt SW shanks was barely usable until i got lvl 3 orbs

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>>163277036

>>163278320
>SW Shanks
>Red Force

you don't use red force on SW shanks team you fucking nigger

Shank's Subs aren't cerebral except Monet.

>every fucking time someone posts about DR vs orbs you guys sperg over 100 posts arguing without reaching a conclusion
please be more original

>>163278532
>I have shit luck so I had to counter it with less shit luck and that's why I'm right
Well I'm glad we cleared that up

>hardly any croc books dropped during the skillup week
>terrible luck with the skillups from the ones that did drop
>now they're dropping like crazy

Sure do love getting cucked out of 30 box space for another 2 weeks, thanks bamco

>>163278281
the argument is toward SW shanks, not my own setup(which is not losing or gaining anything because i honestly dont run psy teams that arent double goku). double SW shanks with even just level 1 orbs is gonna be enough to outdo my PSY lead + buddy shanks + lv 2.

>>163278532
you either dont actually run double shanks or you just have shit rng

>>163278765
and momonga
and tesoro
and T Bone
and usopp doesnt matter
there are probably more.

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>>163278632
the damage output

>>163278765
Oh sorry I forgot you could only use one team per Captain and that we were suddenly talking about Legendile :^)

>>163278853
we reached a conclusion long ago DR is shit and very situational where orbs is way better and more consistent

>>163278940
>Ussop doesn't matter
>2x booster for psy
>No orb booster
>Orb manipulator for a shanks team with Redforce LOL
>HP cutting special on a shanks team

ok just stop talking retard.

>>163278940
>i dont run psy teams that arent sengoku
>proceeds to give his shitty opinion on SW shanks
just shut the fuck up you sperg

>>163278632
>not optimizing for friend captains
>wasting slots on extra CD and AH

>>163279034
>we reached a conclusion long ago
Well obviously we didn't
>Orbs
>rng more consistent
Holy shit kill yourself

Is story Lucci needed if I have Thatch?

>>163279028
Post your Full Cerebral SW shanks team that does more damage than >>163276320

I'm waiting.

>>163279238
YES

>>163279238
sometimes you don't want to rely on chance
and preemptive orb shuffles exist

>>163279238
Yes because sometimes it's nice to have a sure thing rather than an increased chance
No I am not implying what you think I'm implying shut up

>>163279169

What would you want more than extra CD and AH?

DR? lol fuck off retard.

>>163279125
i was just listing psy cerebral subs not if they were optimal but thanks for the (you)

>>163279161
>he cant into facts that his shitty legend has enough boosted rng to function, not like its gonna clear much anyway
who is the one sperging out here, friend? (you)

>>163279491
Map damage, clearly.
what? you want to clear Enel forest, right?

or get a sub with 3 sockets, get lv 3 DR and not waste sockets

>>163279715
DR is wasting slots, i'd rather have overlap than waste sockets on DR.

>>163279517
SW shanks doesnt reach his potential without lvl 3 orb thats a fact anyone with a SW shanks that they regularly use will tell you

then theres you who runs sengoku you theorize that you can get by with lvl 1 orbs you cant now shut up

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>>163279840
>orbs on fuji team
since you're already wasting slots, might as well max resilience instead of orbs.

but no you're pretty dumb if you'd rather take extra slots with 0 benefit than a socket with almost 0 benefit, at least you have a chance for an outlier with the latter option

>>163280032
because if one shanks with lv 1 orbs gets by then two shanks with lv 1 orbs will be supreme. its not like you're gonna be doing hard content with him anyway.

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Merry Christmas OPGG and Happy Holidays. I hope all your yolopulls reward you with your white whales and may all your fortnight farming yield legend manuals, posters and RR manuals you're in need of.

>>163280494
>more theories
brainstorming is fun seriously but you can not run SW shanks without having a full board of orbs every turn and the only way you get that is with lvl 3 orbs

>>163280661
Galko is the cutest!

>>163280269
You know why orbs is great on fuji teams?

because without matching bonuses double fuji is fucking painful to farm with/or clear trash, that why most teams use split fuji/doffy captains to speed it up and provide 2 turn boosting.

>>163280661
Thanks anon, I hope your yolopulls go well too! Don't yolopull though

Who else /doingasinglepullforKizaru/ here?

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>>163280753
I was just memeing with that part but I dont see a situation where double fuji is ever viable over fuji/cesar,trebol,doffy, or even diamante
its kinda wierd to arrange the sockets of staple drivens without ruining their captain viability for someone else. to max DR you'd have to put it on trebol or ceasar. im sure i could come up with a very oversaturated socket setup if i add Barto in there

>>163280661
>>163280905
First pulls in two sugos. I will probably just do one or two depending on my luck. Gunning for Kizaru, tashigi or smoker. Gl to all and hopefully we get a kizaru in here at least.

>>163281915
Double fuji is a better single turn burst

It also has a higher HP pool.

Diamante actually isn't as good as he seems for Driven because he special doesn't stack with Fuji special.

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>An extra 2.5% gets me a full board every turn
Gee, I don't know who I'd rather believe, the gamewith guy who has hard tested the game and has tangible data, or some mad autist's opinion.

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>>163282362
I chose diamante due to him being a delayer, im sure there are some stages where getting both specials out is viable like forests
since i dont have fuji myself i guess i could see where that would be pretty good, the extra HP i mean.
anyways i think the autist left so imma go, have a meme image

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Why would you want full orbs every turn? I mean you can easily clear off fodder stages which are seahorses, crabs and lowly pirates with a 2x boost. Why even need the matching orbs?

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>>163277036
I really hope this triggers you faggots, but this is objectively the only right answer.

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>>163283631
It's not really about wanting full orbs every turn, it's about beep-boop optimization
The idea is there are more situations where potentially having more matching orbs will be more beneficial than 3-10% reduction for this particular case.
The problem is that since SW Shanks is primarily a captain, then somebody having an unfavorable socket on him potentially hurts other people who might need to use it.
The short argument is Shanks gives orbs so doesn't really need matching, but at the same time damage reduction may not be the best aslternative

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>>163283294

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>>163283989
DELET THIS

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>>163276320
What is a situation where you would need to deal 7.3 million damage? You could still beat any INT content with only 3 matching orbs, so why even take matching orbs when you'll still be doing lots of damage?

>>163284405
Why, does the practicality and effectiveness offend you?

>>163284201
The way I'd describe it, particularly for Shanks, is that Orbs is like swimmers shaving their legs to gain a marginal advantage, and DR is giving a band-aid to a terminal cancer patient.

Neither is the most impactful thing, but DR is literally as good as not having a socket at all.

>boris using SW shanks
>doesnt have lvl 3 orbs
>hes not even getting half a board of matching orbs

>>163283631
when you get a full one turn roll of a 6x mob stage in a 60 stam that hit for 5k a pop and because you fell for the DR meme and can resist 10% of each hit you die with slightly less HP than normal the dude who rng rolled 3-4 matching orbs and cleared the stage

After having taken these conflicting accounts into consideration, I have decided that I made the wrong decision and will work on putting orbs back on Shanks. Don't expect that for a while though.

>>163284679
It's a shanks team
>fall for the DR meme
>only roll one matching
>wipe

yeah i'd rather have all the RNG

>>163285178
Yeah, I'm doing the same for Tesoro eventually, but I'm not even going to bother with it until I save up 5 orb socket books when we get more of the individual ones.

kegs or jars?

So now that skill-up had ended Marguerite is actually dropping. At least it's not long until the next one.

>>163285178
>>163285353
im keeping DR on my tesoro since my psy team has enough 4 socket units to have both lv 3 orbs and DR

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>tfw you finally become awakened to the true game saviour, Damage Reduction

Half the raids and enemies have orb shuffling.
You don't need the matching orbs against fodder.
Being able to stall for specials is key for clearing content, you won't get anywhere with matching orbs alone.
And most importantly, something people have not mentioned at all. If you get a full board of matching orbs every turn, you will get NO meat orbs, which mean NO healing at all for SW Shanks, which means your damage only gets lower and lower as the stage goes on, because you will need to stall.

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>>163286114
My nigga
Except the most patrician choice is level 3 Damage Reduction then level 1-2 orbs. Just because level 3 is hot shit

>>163286114
>you will get NO meat orbs
thats not how orb matching works

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>>163286114
I like your picture

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>>163286114
Dumbass

Lets see where Level 0 ORBS gets ya

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>>163286114
The fact that someone took the time to make this bothers me

>>163286574
>Lets see where Level 0 ORBS gets ya
Not him but it got me pretty far

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>>163286114
Im Pl 396, have every legend minus Cavendish, max/max/max every raid and colo unit woryh having, and have cleared every forest and i've never found a single situation where Damage resist wad needed or wish I had it.

Pick related me rng

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>>163286574
>tfw completed literally all content with 0 level orbs

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Japan player here, just a heads up for future content.
The latest INT raid is Magellan, you're poisoned from the start and will take X damage every turn. Then he heavily poisons you on his stage for even more damage every turn, while also paralysing and blinding you, forcing you to stall out until all the debuffs run out so you can burst him down.
All in all, it's a stage where you just take damage upon damage, Auto-Heal will obviously be paramount, but matching orbs will get you nowhere because you have to play it smart above all. It will be really ironic if SW Shanks, a PSY only legend will not be able to clear a 40-stam INT raid because you went all-in on damage and matching orbs and refused to use your head.
Just saying, it's not all about speed.

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>missing red and green crabs
>can't evolve my Xmas Tashigi until Friday

>>163286965
How has orb ever carried you either
You have every option available
DR is better for those without those options

>>163286965
Fuck you

Damn dirty whale

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>>163286965
>I have 14 legends and I've never needed Damage Reduction haha
>It's definitely not because I have the best legends available at any time fully maxed, but because I'm such a good player!
Jesus christ fuck off faggot

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>>163287156

If you have less options, why would you ruins your potential socket sets ups with shit like DR

if your F2P or only have 1-2 legends, you want to be less restriction in sockets and subs.

Hell my fastest team to clear 60 stamina Gild Tesoro was Pic related.

Bad Orb luck + 1 round rolls on round 4 could fuck me on the trash before I got to gild.

My croc will run level 3 orbs + Red force at the end of the month and i'd never consider wasting any cerebral units sockets on fucking DR.

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>>163287738
>Reddit spacing
ignored

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>>163287738
>I used a team that I knew could easily lose
>because I wanted to be fast
>I had to rely on RNG not be fucked

Holy shit your opinion put it in the trash
This whole post is the reason why DR > Orbs.
You dont run shit thats dependant on orbs. Ever.

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>>163287738
I grabbed the wrong Robin used 3d2y. kek

>>163287521
>14
DR is good because I can properly count.

>>163287521
ok well i have two legends and ive only ever needed damage reduction once and that was with whitebeard just one time did i need lvl 3 DR with him just once ive never needed it other wise ever

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>>163287893
>one of the most experienced people ITT tells you that you are wrong
>YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHILE FAPPING TO HENTAI I THEORIZED THE BEST DR SET UP

>>163287738
>Bad Orb luck could fuck me on the trash
So you willingly took a team that got fucked by rng then claim orbs is good because you don't get fucked as hard.
Glad to see you're a complete idiot, thanks for keeping the game alive I guess.

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>>163288129
>THE MOST EXPERIENCED PERSON IS A SCRUB WHO DECIDES ITS BETTER TO LEAVE IT TO RNG THAN JUST GO THROUGH WITH AN ACTUALLY GOOD TEAM

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>>163288129
>Orbtards cannot literally think for themselves and just spout whatever they've heard from whatever player
Pretty much this whole fucking debate in a nutshell. Orbatrds are literally just circlejerking each other on how many matching orbs they got while their PLvl 400 player DIES TO TESORO BECAUSE OF """"BAD ORBS"""".

>>163280661
Thanks. Christmas units pulled until I got a dupe
1st was Christmas tashigi
2nd was Christmas Rayray
3rd was base Coby
Stopped pulling
Decent haul for 15 gems

DR vs orbs depends on your priorities. Whales want speed since they have more options in teambuilding so they'll get orbs. Gamewith likes DR because they put together poverty teams that suddenly can do content because of DR AH combo. However, powercreep is going to fuck orb users eventually as content gets so stupid that even legend teams get fucked without everything aligned.

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>>163287893
>>163288168

>Easily lose

when did I say it could easily lose?

I never failed any runs with this team, but the potential was there if round 4 spawned with 5 cannoners at 1 round and if I rolled all bad orbs, but that never happened. I did around 40~ runs with it.

when I'm speed running something 1 failure in 20-30 runs ain't bad when your doing a run in 2-3 minutes.

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Finally have something whenever some boy says Orbs > DR

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>>163288719
The sequel

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I don't think even the AH meme had this much concentrated autism

After taking into account the further debate, I decided to keep my Tesoro as is instead of switching to orbs.
DR seems like a better choice now.

>>163288417
>his boa isnt maxed
if i hadnt of had lvl 2 matching orbs i wouldnt of been able to farm boa

but i did

lvl 2 dr wouldnt of allowed me to farm boa kill yourself

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>>163289141
In other words
You relied on RNG, because more RNG helped your RNG-dependant run

>>163289141
Jesus christ read a book before making another post please. It's honestly hurting to read you at this point.

>>163289212
>relied on rng
no i increased my chances of farming the orbs i needed to kill her by having lvl 2 orbs

where as if i went with level 2 DR i would of just failed ill be deleting every single one of you DR shits anyway ive seen your units you have nothing complete no raids no legends worthless

>>163278632
what's up with fags starting this hannyabal meme

hannyabal is shit

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>>163289338
Which you couldve farmed anyway
Or just used a better non-rng dependant team
>>163289446
Hannybal's okay, not shit, not amazing, he's okay

>>163289446
conditional boosters are pretty good because you can stack them with other boosts
assuming you have space for them in your teams after orb controllers and other boosters

Reminder that there were people a couple months ago who SWORE on their lives that matching orbs was way better than Auto-Heal. Yes, this actually happened, and it's happening again right now with people arguing that orbs are so much better than taking less damage.

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>>163289268

>>163289446
IF you have Caesar, he's good. But Caesar has no books, so who fucking knows.

>>163289905
the people arguing that AH was worse than orb were fucking trolling obviously just like the DR idiots are now shaving off 200 dmg doesnt do fucking anything anyone with a brain can see this

>>163288859
>>163288417
You know hes talking about speed farming the 60 stamina right?

most of you DR fags probably barely made it though 60 stamina once for the crab.

The 4th Stage hes talking about would have wiped your DR meme team also if you rolled bad orbs, the 5 cannons do 10500 damage each.

>>163289905
it was all shitposting to meme newfags. orbs vs dr is closer of a call. I would say orbs on shanks, dr on tesoro.

>>163290214
Nah, I used an actually good team and farmed 60 stam for tomes and candy

>>163289905
Wasn't it also not too long ago that people were condemning orbs as the current "worst socket of the month"?
I bet next it'll be CDR

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>>163290214
>most of you DR fags probably barely made it though 60 stamina once for the crab.
Dude I accidentally went into 60 stam instead of 40 once and it still wasn't even a huge difference I'd even go as far as to say it was disappointingly easy

>>163290720
>>163290439
Yeah sure post ye meme teams then

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>>163290720
>mfw I just farm waifus while the rest of you pointlessly farm da strongest manly characters

Thank god Oda never makes women relevant outside of fanservice. No waifu will ever be raid exclusive.

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>read through the general after some time off
>6 hours
>200 posts
>It's all autists waving their arms like retards, shouting DR vs Orbs.

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>>163291208
Yeah you're gonna wanna maybe give it a day or twelve

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>>163291208
>game discussion is now bad
This at least is fun, I'll take this over our thread 404ing due to lack of replies any time.

>>163291536
>This at least is fun
Shitposter pls
When's even the last time this general 404'd

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>>163291671
newfag pls, it used to happen all the goddamn time.

>People still arguing between DR vs orbs.
>As if you can't have both.

Please. PLEASE. PUHLEASE Kill yourselves.

>>163291827
You can't on alot of the weird meme teams people use for Colo

>>163291208
this fight has been going on for what,10 threads?

>>163291671
WEW

It happened all of the time earlier this year. People were shitposting saying that the game is dead blah blah blah

>>163291771
>it used to
Exactly
USED to
A thread held afloat by shitposters like you is a thread that deserves to die

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>>163292171
This is my thread now, try and stop me fuccboi.

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Reminder that the reason DR fags prioritize stalling over speed is so when their Wife's son plays their account there is less chance he will die and lose gems.

>>163292781
This is honestly getting sad, just leave and save face while you still can.

what's the best driven team I can make without a driven legend? Shiki, doffy, caesar, trebol, and smoker?

>>163292953
If you're taking Shiki no need for Caesar, one or the other.

>>163292953
Shiki/Fuji teams are meta in Japan right now for FTP content.

>>163287738
>this reddit spacing
what a surprise, a namefag is also a redditor

>>163292781
Can you please leave /v/ out of /opgg/

Thanks.

>>163292781
Don't you ever talk to my DR sockets or wife's son again.

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>>163293076
>>163293174
Yeah, Im thinking something like this. Swap caesar for shiki if you need the health.

>>163293565
You actually will need the health eventually, Young WB gets him low

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If someone could add me and put one of these as their captain I'd be really grateful, thanks!

746 133 015

>>163294717
added

>>163290720
>>163290869
>>163290439

wheres the teams man

>>163295372
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of5RNXRDCJA&t=329s

>>163262497
Hm. can kinda see this as a way to bring WB, Ace, Cora and such back for a finale. though prolly only be temporary... and frankly borderlining Naruto stuff.
>>163263731
Non Zoan awakenings are described as affecting surroundings.

>>163296078
No, Doffy's was described as affecting surroundings. There's a bunch of abilities that don't really make sense if you consider that as the rule. How would Brook's fruit affect surroundings without just becoming Big Mom's fruit?

>>163296078
We've literally only seen Doffy's fruit being awakened, and none other.

I GOT LUCCI THAT SON OF A BITCH

HAAHAHAHHAHAH

>>163295265
Thanks lad but it has to be an apprentice, shell island is currently on half stamina luckily

Theres going to be a Legend Ivankov coming. Boosting Fighter and Free Spirits by 2.25 for his captain. Special is suppose to be the Hormone Trreatment overdose from Marineford, Healing a large percent of Max HP, Reducing damage by a large amount for a turn, and raises both damage and slot effects. the following three turn reduces your attack, and locks random characters on your team.

>>163296813
>Legend
>2.25 boost.

Are you having a giggle?

>>163296813
Next legend is Kuma protecting the Sunny.

>>163296412
Big Mam cant bring back the dead.

frankly her powers kinda infringement on Moriahs if you wanna look at it like that.

>>163296968
Uh, Akainu is a 2.25 rainbow lead

>>163296774
apprentice up, refresh your game

>>163296991
we don't really know enough about how her powers work yet just that she fucks with souls and lifespans

>>163296968
sorry. didnt say whole thing. boosts attack by x2.25. when 50% or above health deals 5x damage to enemies. when below 50% heals 5x rcv.

but yes im having a giggle.

and Cav only doubles crew

>>163296991
I'd go out on a limb and assume that animating objects with the souls she takes is Big Mam's awakening. Stuff like Law's miracle surgery thing is almost guaranteed to be his awakening.

>>163297141
She can take Lifespan, via Soul Energy. she can then use that Lifespan to increase somebody elses or herselves, or put the Soul Energy in inanimate objects to give them sentience.

>>163297357
can you show my the panel were its shown/said she can increase lifespan?
I don't recall it being shown she can expand peoples lifespans only taking them away so far

>>163297209
Law's is the tricky one to think of if the "Affects Surroundings" rule does apply, as his power already does that.

I think A) It be the Immortality thing, but also think not as thats an overly specific usage of the power, and Devil Fruits often considered to differ vastly by the user who uses it and how he chooses to use it. so more liekly i think B) it'll be a transformation where he absorbs his ROOM field and becomes able to use his powers without the ROOM limitations and borders, freeing up his ability. Be sweet if he called it Archimedes or Asclepius

>>163297034
Thank you! You are very helpful.

Awakened Buggy will be able to split his atoms and create nuclear explosions at will.

>>163297894
he already has Muggy Balls for that.

his Awakening prolly just be a lesser version of Laws normal powers.

>>163297628
cant remember when i think it was, but wasnt there mentioning that she like extremely old, but uses souls to keep her going. I mean, she has little kids, but also quite aged looking kids as well and still doesn't look overly old. she have to keep some sort of form of youth to manage that.

>>163297027
God Buggy laughs at you.

>>163297710
>law fights with a regular sword instead of a huge scalpel or even a caduceus looking staff
Missed opportunity

Awakened Luffy will be able to stretch time giving him nigh infinite speed

>>163298785
I think Luffy's is one where he's able to rubberize the stuff around him. See: Rubberizing the air to make his fist bounce around in Gear 4. Seems logical he'll eventually be able to rubberize more stuff.

whew these kid book drop rates were rarer than croc's

>>163298656
he's not Dr. Faust. and still learned to fight the old fashion way before he really effectively became a doctor.

>robin's awakening lets he dupicate other people's body parts
>she can dupilicate someones cock infinite times to fill her infinite vaginas.

Ivanka is a shit character and nobody likes 'her' or whatever it is.

She's shit as a fighter as well, she got completely decimated during the war of the best. Jinbe too, he spent all his time having holes blast into his body but at least Jinbe is a good person with a cool history.

>>163299548
>you will never fuck a million robin pussies with your million dicks

Why even live

How is Sanjuan Wolf so fucking big?

>>163299631
first) Ivankov rant been ten times funnier if you kept alternating between he/she/its as you reference shim.

second)
>Jinbe shit?
>One Shots Gecko Moriah, whom took the whole Straw Hats crew to beat before
>survives having a chest cavity blown open by magma.

>>163300695
4U

>>163300695
Giant Zoan Devil Fruit

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Is there another full board combo for powerhouse besides the specials of Colo Ohm and Pica?

Powerhouse needs a buff.

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>>163300695
Giants, which seems to be Oda's next major plot point, along with hybrid beings.

>>163299631
Don't really care about Ivanka, but I swear to god if you ever talk shit about Bon Clay, we will have problems.

Also, Jinbei is cool. He literally wants everyone other than himself to be happy and safe.

>>163300985
Lucci and level 3 matching orbs.

>>163301245
u wish

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>>163301245
>orbs

>>163301064
I would never insult Bon-Chan, don't you dare insinuate I would say such rubbish!

>>163301498
I am seriously amazed at how Bon Clay is actually one of the coolest characters in the entire series.

>>163300695
Better question is how does he live on just saltwater because there sure as hell isn't anything big enough for him to eat around.

>>163299631
Literally the shittiest opinion ever stated on this website
I bet you don't like Bon Clay either you raging faggot

>>163301064
machvise, Dellinger, theres options out there that are powerhouses and can change the board

>>163301617
the difference is that Bon Clay is literally a Jim Carrey character like Franky

Iva and the newkamas are just forced homo jokes.

>>163301245
why is his cd so high for an rng special?

>>163302351
Are you fucking stupid. Bon Clay is as fucking gay as it gets.

But that doesn't matter, because he is a fucking bro who doesn't let his sexuality and identity define his personality. The same can be said for Ivankov, though I would agree with you on the rest.

>>163302402
Because its rainbow orbs

I really feel like taking a break until they release the manuals of the Doflamingo Family otuside of the movie fortnites. Just gonna make it to Marineford and use the free gems I get to lv up my box.

>>163302539
I guess that kind of makes sense. I don't look forward to farming his manuals.

>>163302351
Ivankov is Tim Curry

Post comfy honeyball teams

>>163303310
honeyball?

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POST FIGHTER DREAM TEAMS

>>163303573
Hannyabal

>>163304867
Hannyabal is a meme

>>163304154
log luffy

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>>163304154

>>163305574
>Sengoku
>Not Koala

Any hope for World to come out? I like him a lot.

>>163305889
Well that was more an OVA and not a proper movie so probably?

Who should I give my Rcv candies to? Rocinante, Mansherry, Enel, Colosseum Moriah or Psy Marco?

>>163306843
Enel.

Roci is a niche pick for some colos.

>>163306843
Rocinante. Immediately.

>people actually feed candies to boosters/evolvers instead of just feeding them in blocks of 5 to the units that need them

What, you don't have the Beli to keep up with that?

>>163307767
Im doing it cause I dont have units I want to put them on, other than Doffy I guess, but even then I dont feel like it

>>163307767
How do you not know why people do that?