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purge gamers edition

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/700
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://www.opendota.com/ (formerly yasp.co)
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/

Previously on /d2g/! - >>163089665
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First for Soe who is a good Christian and the love of my life
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tfw suck shit at tinker
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>>163124446
soe belongs in a dumpster
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QoP pulled out of the dumpster when and how?
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DUDE
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>>163124539
never

she's an initiation hero that's made of wet paper
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>>163124539
But Reddit told me win rate doesn't matter
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>>163124446
damn cap looks like a guy out of an early 2000's children's television show
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>>163124539
she's the direside puck
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>>163124590
750 MS
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>>163124703
>tfw no handsome Cap BF
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>>163124713
puck is better than qop because puck can leave an initation if it goes bad, and he has a silence built in
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>>163124847
wrong
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>>163124847
right
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>>163124893
more like rite
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>>163124837
>pretty good clothing taste, some decent charisma
>settles for gypsy sjw gf
Why...
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>>163124514
THAT'S NOT HER

DELETE THIS
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D U D E S I X T R E A N T S L M AO
LUL
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>>163125000
post pics of his gf
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>>163124703
Holy shit he does
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>>163125104
that's what

an extra 75+ gold for the enemy team

good stuff
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>>163124847
she can actually kills other heros and puck can't. So puck is worse
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>>163125000
it's a the most obvious beard in the world bro
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>>163124483
Just practice. Hes a really fun hero once you get the combos down to muscle memory and start BTFOing the enemy team in 10 seconds
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>>163124539
BLINK MANACOST REDUCED FUCKING WHEN
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>>163125104
why does everyone keep spamming this like a forced meme

is this supposed to be really good or laugably bad


i literally dont get it

explain this NOW
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>>163125303
at the point you get it, it no longer matters
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>>163125303
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So is there any way to set your map to different ones without owning them?
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>>163125360
>+6 treants at level 25
>can't even summon the 11 with a single sprout
gee i wonder
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>>163125440
That's stealing, anon.
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>>163125374
THATS RIGHT
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>My next hero for the all-hero challenge is Meepo
>I've never played him even once in my 2k hours invested into the game
>I'm just a 4.2k plebeian
How do I practice with Meepo, guys? I don't want to just pick him and lose game after game and have my team bully me.

Should I play bot games?
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tfw ywn be part of the dreadzstack
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>>163125497
If Valve would just let me buy the damn things now I would, but they locked them behind battle passes and compendiums I can no longer get.

So I don't really have any other options.
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>>163125689
What terrain are you thinking about?
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>>163125606
>Go in unranked game
>Select all units
>Tab + W until you win
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>>163124254
by not caring about SJW Wars
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>>163125606
custom games
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REMINDER THAT GRINDING MMR IN SOLO QUEUE IS LITERALLY AND CANONICALLY THE PRISONER'S DILEMMA
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/f/f1/Slark_rare_02.mp3
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>>163125606
after Meepo's latest buff, he's actually pretty easy now.

With virtually no micro other than spamming tab and poof, I've manages to win like 3 games with him.
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>>163125732
Immortal Gardens would be the main one, though desu I'd probably buy them all if I could.
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>>163125606
Just figure out how to do his blink+poof combo in an an empty lobby. The rest is straight up micro (like stacking with another unit, which you might be familiar with if you played HotD carries last patch) or earth bind skill shots, neither of which you will learn without just playing anyway. If you can farm stacks and do blink poof you'll be fine(ish).
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>>163125606
make sure you do it in ranked and dont even think about practicing first

that is literally 90% of my games
>MUH RANDOM
>MUH ALL HERO CHALLENGE
fuck off and die if you do this
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>>163125884
i'm familiar with the prisoner's dilemma
please explain how dota is even remotely like the prisoner's dilemma because I'm not seeing it
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>>163125620
Manliest with out this guy? Don't make me laugh.
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>>163125956
Desert terrain + music pack is the underrated/unknown GOAT
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HOW
DO
YOU
BUILD
TREANT
NOW
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what is his endgame?
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>>163126252
I just wish I could try them out ;_;
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>>163126127
mirin traps
even oracle is ripped
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our girl
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>>163126127
ugh can we not?
I'm tired of seeing all this toxic masculinity in dota
why can't a more gentle man be a hero too? They are reinforcing these hurtful stereotypes that you need to be a violent mound of muscle to be considered a man, let alone a hero
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>6 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

6 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

>6 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

6 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

NYAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

DOTURDS >:3
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>>163126468
who
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>>163126268
phase mom basher echo sabre bkb daedalus
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>>163126579
It's pronounced CHRISTmas you stupid little qt. ;)
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>>163126468
>Frilly bra
>Choker
>Giving her chest the focus of the webcam more than her actual face
I dunno why people give Sheever shit.
She doesn't do any of this.
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>>163125541
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>>163126565
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>>163126684
>X
this letter is pronounced "cross" you stupid fucking ameritard
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>>163126565
y-you called? *blushes*
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>>163124471
Anon when you mean cancer badNaga do you mean

>a worse Naga that is usually picked as a replacement for Naga when she got banned?
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>>163125112
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>>163126843
no
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how ar you enjoying goodEarthshaker?
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>>163126892
does cap really have a mtf gf
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>tfw you instapick monkey king
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>>163126684
UHM u stupid qt tard xmas is short for cross/christ
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>>163126892
What is Cap doing dating Jessica Rabbit?
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>>163126892
looks even more dykeish than megan kelly with that fucking haircut and the fucking color, jesus christ have some respect for yourself cap
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>>163127005
did you think we were joking when we were saying he was our guy?
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>>163126120
five players

if all five players pick cores they lose

if one person picks support the one person has a shitty game and the rest of the cores do their thing

if two people pick support the game is normal

basically people dont trust each other and just pick core
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>>163126934
then what did you mean?
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>>163125303
DUDE ITS AN UNDERPOWERED TALENT LOL BULLDOG SAID IT WAS SHIT :thinking: XD
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>>163126581
5k MMR arab cumslut
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Considering I'm maining Treant and tearing the enemy jungler new assholes with my lvl 1 orb of venom, what should my Steam handle be?
>WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE
or
>A tree
for the sake of
>A tree pwned RussianCykaBlyat's head for 436 gold

Also I love trashtalking Monkey King
>You climbed the wrong tree motherfucker
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>DEATH IS MY BITCH

what did he mean by this?
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>>163127313
faggot
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>>163127012
But does it feel better than getting +6 treants?
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>>163127313
idiot retard
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>>163127401
he fugged necro
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>hud STILL trash
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>>163124539
Make Dagger a rightclick orb.
Balance her skillst so Max Scream isn't the mandatory build to avoid falling off in laning.
Rework her ultimate, into something that isn't complete shit for the cooldown.

>>163124713
We are long past that era.
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>>163127313
>A tree pwned russian...
anon... ;_;
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>>163125620
>manliest line up
>no Axe
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>>163126714
shes showing how short her hair is after she cut it dude

and what a surprise a sheever fan is a raging misogynist...

not everything a woman does is about men you know
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why are male heroes so ripped?
a bunch of them have abs

how do I get as much gains as they do?
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Why did they rename all of Slardar's abilities?
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>>163127770
take meth so you don't eat
then take steroids and start lifting
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Give me a build order for Ursa this patch
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>>163127770
the unfair male beauty standards forced on us by the matriarchy
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>>163127861
do that in the other order tardo
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>>163127805
because they're were the worst names for abilities in game
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>tfw just got back from my morning run

Which hero should i play dotards
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>>163126268
Treant is a REALLY strong hitter early game and an excellent roamer, but falls off later and is NOT a carry.
2-3-0-1
starting items: tango, orb of venom, 1 ward. Either courier or another tango
Get arcane boots and mana talent at lvl 10, you're going to need them more than attack speed. Spend the early game ganking motherfuckers. Roam enemy jungle if they have a jungler.
Skill build: 3-4-1-1 (value point armor)
After arcane boots, get aghs, then ward their entire jungle.
Lvl 15 talent: Gold per minute. Lvl 20: Reduced CD. By the endgame, you should have owled their entire side of the river, and use the vision to kill any enemy who leaves their base.
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>>163125303
1. Sprout caps out at like 7-8 out of 11

2. Doesn't affect aghs

3. Its fine in 1-3k pubs, because its another +20-30 DPS against towers/raxes and buildings

4. Its the worst ability buff in Dota, but its still better than some level 25 like Troll Warlord
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>>163128127
dark sanic
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>>163128127
fuTA
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>pick lone druid
>buy items
>hit towers
>go negative
>win anyways
>average 8k tower damage
I'm really liking this hero.
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>>163128127
>5 at night
>morning
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>Get Monkey Kings that shit the bed on my team all the time
>Pick him to try him out
>Get 4 stacks
>Press Q on enemy hero
>Accidentally kill a KotL that was coming to help the target i was assaulting
>Kill the target 1 auto attack later

How so many retards manage to fuck this up? he is braindead mode
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>>163128308
time is a social construct
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>>163128127
Witch Doctor
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>>163128273
build?
which talents dude
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Can't wait until Monkey King isn't flavor of the patch anymore so I can finally play him. His skillset looks actually fun.
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>>163127595
>Make Dagger a rightclick orb.
I like it

>Balance her skillst so Max Scream isn't the mandatory build to avoid falling off in laning.
100% necessary

>Rework her ultimate, into something that isn't complete shit for the cooldown.
I thought Aghs cooldown by default, and then a better Aghs, might be a nice idea.
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>>163128435
cuck
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>>163128161
dude 3sec whirling axes is pretty good
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d2g what do you call monkey king
le balanced simian monarch
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>>163128308
>waking up in the morning
>hur dur im such a le normie

>>163128435
>>163128257

how so? he doesnt run
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>>163124539
When magic damage becomes relevant past minute 45.
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>>163128312
He is fairly squishy, and surprisingly easy to gank since most ppl don't skill his jump early.
His ult packs a real punch, though.
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letting valve develop dota 2 was a mistake
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>>163128529
le ursa of free win and no cooldown
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>>163128446
I just follow that one guide near the top desu
Talents I like to go 70 damage 200 attack range because memes with rabid but 200 health and bear damage is probably better
Get anything at 20, snare at 25
Go offlane, use bear to bring the creeps out of the lane behind their tier 1 and bring them through the jungle to your tower first wave to get free exp and gold
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>player on your team chooses razor
>lose

waow
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>>163128520
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What would things be like if Viper was never in the game and got added today?
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>>163126984
More like Badshaker
>Doesn't scale as well
>Only strong earlygame
>Can't do the same completely bonkers chain stun
>Current itemization is basically "lol, i need to get my bonus damage going, fuck HP or damage items"
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>>163128529
lemon key king
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>>163127159
mid hero that rushes naga items and falls off
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>>163128529
KANG
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>always try to learn TA
>always shit at it
>this match i couldn't handle an axe mid
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>>163128529
WEWUZ KANGS AND SHIET
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Any tips for a position 4 roaming/maybe jungle Slardar? 2-2-0 build seems nicer, that extra sprint movespeed is so necessary. Tranquils, blink, force, consumables as needed.

Also, what other heroes like to GO FAST? Clearing half the map in a few seconds is fun. Already play a shitton of SB, and hate playing bloodseeker.
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>>163128830
who needs lategame when you completely wreck the laning phase?
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>>163128972
>jungle slardar

end yourself
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>>163129032
>shit lane presence
>needs farm
yeah
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Am I meant to constantly push the lane as Dark Seer
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>>163128782

All his numbers would be 4 times higher and people would complain about how OP he is
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>>163127770
Depends on your height/weight. Diet is 75% of your gains.
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>>163128840
So he's weak currently?
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MK currently is pretty much in the same situation as Bloodseeker before his nerfs. His early game damage is completely fucking broken and allows him to snowball.
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>>163128972
wrong. You go iron talon into stout into midas. Steal all the bounty runes and shrines. Other fast heroes are troll, luna kotl ck puck am alch np
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>be shitter
>calibrated way too early
>got 500 MMR
>suck it up and practice
>finally have a decent sense of how the game works since a month ago
>finally able to 1v9 through 80% of matches
>60% winrate on visage
>was on huge winstreak right at the end of 6.88

>7.00
>every match is snowbally as fuck
>every retard tier match has at least a few players that feed 1/17
>games are now decided by the matchmaking server
>solo queue is flooded with literal 1 MMR retards, autistic cancerlords that reinstalled after their LPQ expired and 2 stacks of memelords that don't care about party MMR
>that fucking retarded monkey cunt is impossible to win against because he is PERFECTLY designed to exploit how retards play the game
>lose literally every game against him and win literally every game with him on my team
>-200 MMR gone in a few days
>ranked will stay like this because said 1 MMR retards are in every game and they can't get any lower
>cannot even resign myself to unranked because MK every match
>try him myself and he is the most grossly imba bullshit ever

valve

why
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>>163128481
>>163127595
Even better
>Merge 3 abilities into 1
>Keep/change blink
>Give her 2 new good abilities
>Fancy non shit Aghs to capitalize she is ranged AM
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>>163129153
>500 MMR
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>>163129081
>Slardar
>either of those

retard
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>be psg
>still come to observe d2g sometimes
>people still posting about this has-been game

why tho? i mean rlly

video games are over desu
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Quick reminder that Monkey kang is literally badUrsa
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>>163129153
gotta sell those arcanas my man

i had some dumb retard chink you had an mk arcana and he was abslute fucking trash at the hero
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>>163128529
King Weewuz
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This isn't dota anymore.

Nice fucking job valve, all 10 players having over 400cs, all full items in under one hour game... nice meta, game totally ruined

monkey king is dogshit op and my fps, well, its like someone is kicking my gpu all the time... i had to turn on freaking v-sync so my screen doesn't tear apart like Yugoslavia
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>>163129120
no. I don't think people will build radiance on him anymore so he's strong now

>>163129153
play omni, visage and cm and spectre if you wanna carry. These heroes will win if you're lucky and keep cool
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>>163129153

You do realize all your issues would be solved by abusing MK, the more people abuse it for MMR the quicker he will be toned down
>MK nominated for ban every single game
>Never, ever, ever gets banned
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>>163129313
Why are people blatantly lying now.
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>>163129021
I don't want to play against that.
>Monkey swings his club from tree
>Leshrac/ES follows up
>Leshrac/ES follows up again to reach 9 seconds of chainstun
AND THEN MONKEY KING: RAMPAGE
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A-GOD STREAM FUCKING WHEN?
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reminder that valve hates us
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>>163127805
Regarding Slardar, do you get 10% more Bash or the 20 Strength? Mind you both are decent for Carry AND Offlane Slardar
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reminder that valve is okay with us
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>>163129153
>lose everything
>"why"
>be shitter
I love it when people answer their own questions.
Timbersaw counters Wukong to some extent. I like Treant though. Destroys Wukong in lane, and Treant's aghs allows you to spot Wukong in trees.
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>>163129501
i don't think artstyle will ever stream anon
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>>163129567
bash is too OP a mechanic

>>163129608
they call us entitled pricks.
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reminder that valve likes reddit better than us
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>>163129567
Its basically "oh, i need to think ahead"
So you get Blink
maybe Force
and then.... do you go for AC + Moonshard for permabash, or do you become a supportcock?
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thank fuck posogo doesnt flood this general anymore

100% upgrade
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>>163129672
>they call us entitled pricks.

citation needed
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>>163129501
fear said tomorrow
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>>163129697
>reddit
>9000 players

>d2g
>barely 150 and losing members fast
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>>163129650
Only ranged heroes can trade against Wukong in lane.
Even Dragon Knight can't really do that.
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>>163129723
what are those
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>just lost game because pos 1 carry was shit despite so much space created for them

This is why supports should stop over valuing themselves, you're going to win a fuckload more games from good carries over supports.
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I just hope Artour doesn't play the same fucking german rap songs over and over again
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>>163129789
>barely 150
yeah right
>losing members fast
yeah right
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>>163129860
i feel like i havent heard them in months though
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>>163128901
you dont learn a hero by spamming him every game
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>>163129829
>Treant
>Hit from invis, stunning Wukong and dealing 100+ damage with early -3 armor orb
>Leech seed for another 150 dmg
>Orb of venom so he can't run away
literally FREE
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>>163129959
did someone just say free?
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>>163129339
visage was the ez-win spam hero though, microing his birds is not nearly as hard as everyone implies

what i'm whining about is how literally every game has at least a few feeders but this was easy to deal with in 6.88. not anymore.

>>163129356
at my moron rank, i can't afford to lose any MMR by gambling it because every -25 makes it more likely i'll be paired with the 1 MMRs

yeah, i know, i am objectively horrible at the game, but even by these standards they are bad. i have seen some shit, man. smurfs don't even play this far down because it's not funny, it's just depressing
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>>163129903
Because he hasn't streamed in a while
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>Can't select talents for some reason
Thanks volvo
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>>163129950
yeah I do
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>>163129959
What if...
Wukong has a Stout Shield, and stays near creeps? Or pays attention, and changes the side of the creeps he stands?
Or he isn't completely braindead, and buys a Orb of Venom?

Treant Bash is okay, but it
>Whenever you are within 265 range of a tree for 6/5/4/3 seconds
To hit Wukong once, even if you just get a value point, you need to AFK for 6 seconds.
6 seconds of Wukong lasthitting.
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>>163130140

What region do you play?
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How often do you get matched with pros /d2g/?
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>Ability draft glitches out and I get 2 ultimates instead of just one

Uhh... Dotards?
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>>163129650
thing is, it's never me that dies to him in lane, if i have to lane against him i just back off like a pussy and steal runes for xp. what happens is my team feeds him (even when i drill into their fucking heads that he is missing), he snowballs out of control and i either die with them or have to watch them die because he gets a triple kill on them with his bullshit crit thing before i can even physically respond

seriously, these people will run in there and die ten times in a row and see nothing wrong with what they are doing. i think. i can't read spanish.
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>>163130607
>ad
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>>163130657
just pick omni
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>>163129650
>>163130657
Wukong is a odd hero
Literally countered by Orb of Venom and Quelling blade
Countered by positioning and higher turnrate in laning
Yet stupidly feed because people forget to do the math on his gigantic dick slap
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https://nhentai.net/g/82499/
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>>163130786
>dude just dont go in lane against him
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good streamers to watch to learn?
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>>163131045
>Dude just ward his 20 foot monkey dick
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>>163131045
Whats stopping you from picking a ranged hero?
ANY ranged hero`?
You don't even need a real escape, you could just buy a Orb of Venom for that -4% movespeed slow and 7 second disable of Wukongs Tree Running
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>>163131198
purge
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>>163130313
USE. i tried yurup once and it was a lot easier but i couldn't handle the ping

>>163130756
that honestly sounds more painful than losing

>>163130786
>>163131217
like i said, he is perfect for exploiting how shitters play, down to every little detail. getting memekills in lane every game was a big part of how i won so much in 6.88, actually.

aside from the ridiculous raw numbers on Q and passive i might like his hero design except for how the meta has made snowballing viable
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>>163131198
purge is a shitter. Watch
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How do you manage against slark as a support player? No matter what, he is going to feed off of you. That fucking ult allows him to kill you unfettered.

Shadow blade means you have to buy sentries out the ass in order to defend against him. Even then it doesn't matter.

Why is he allowed to use his purge while stunned and shit?

or maybe I don't understand the character. I just hate how I am basically food to "core" heroes as a support player.

How to deal with slark?
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>>163131608
>purge while stunned
just fake out a stun or something to bait his purge then stun
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>>163131608
glimmer cape
euls
ghost scepter
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Why the fuck did they change the damage type on sun ray to magic? It use to be pure damage. Why would they shit on phoenix like that?
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>>163131753
>ghost scepter
nah
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>>163131608
>Why is he allowed to use his purge while stunned and shit?
He isn't, the purge is delayed so he has to cast it before he's stunned.

Aside from that, he's a great pub stomper because he feeds off supports and then gets so farmed he can roflstomp carries before they can catch up to him in farm/agi stacks.

Buying sents, ghost scepters, force staffs, glimmer capes, and picking heroes with non-targeted spells and more than one disable (I like KotL) helps.
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>>163131834
alright friend stay 1k for all i care
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>>163125019
Obviously it isn't, but it's hot af
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>>163131608
just stand under your fucking towers
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>>163131608
start farming lanes solo you dumb shit
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>>163131810
Phoenix got a shit ton of buffs in 7.00. The pure to magic damage is actually a buff to Phoenix since most people buy veil on him anyways.
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>>163131914
>pop scepter
>dark pact hits 600 dmg
>leashed for rest of duration
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How do you deal with nonames in th /vg/ chat?
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>>163131810
>>163131981
its a huge buff, I used to buy blademail to counter that fucker but now he can just buy pipe and laugh off my blademail
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R8 me

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/72413521
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>>163131608
1. Get better at communication, so its possible to walk to a tower, plant a single ward, and then kill Slark because his fish genes demands he initiate 1v5

2. Do better in lane

3. Build items that allows you to survive. I.E Glimmer is the new hot meme, which also allows TP, unlike Ghost Scepter

4. Nothing stops you from building a early Bracer or HP items, so you can just TP out if you react well

Seriously, most of what Slark do, is a midgame version of what Monkey king do.
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>>163132040
ghost scepter only lowers your magic resistance to -5% you fucking 1k subhuman

>don't pop ghost scepter
>dark pact still hits for 225 dmg
>leashed and killed before leash is over
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>>163132045
you're the noname loser
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>>163132314
fuck you noname retard

youre nobody
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>>163132262
>don't pop a useless item vs slark
>use something smart like euls or glimmer instead
>live
hmm
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>>163131045
not mandatory but it's easier when you are supporting
roaming being good now is one of the best changes

>>163131608
oracle
>W for when he tries to farm you for stacks
>ult should give you enough time to run if you spam yourself with heals
>nuke combo can fucking melt him
>movement stop great for if your team is nearby
>buy atos/euls/orchid and meme him if he tries shit again
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>>163132262
>only lowers your magic resistance to -5%
Is this bait?
>>
so is pugna finally a good hero now?
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>>163132262
>only lowers your magic resistance to -5%
that doesn't even make sense. you are still taking much more damage from a strong nuke
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>>163132557
>i don't know how dota mechanics work
please never give advice in this thread
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>>163132382
thx 4 the you, nerd
>>
>watch madoka
>gyro's ult and sf razes sound every fight

nice game dot*rds
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>>163132617
>muh mechanix
You're retarded
post mmr so I can laugh at you
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>>163132715
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Magic_resistance
educate yourself
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>>163132787
>post mmr so I can laugh at you
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>>163132830
3k
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>>163132830
>get proven wrong
>m-muh mmr
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>>163132905
>say stupid shit
>get called out for having low mmr
>>m-muh mmr
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>>163132830
I'm a different anon but please laugh at me. It excites me
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>>163133056
>too scared to post mmr
i'm 6k and i regularly play against merlini and fear on stream

fucking troglodyte
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Reminder, there is literally nothing wrong with buying the monkey king arcana and you poorfags making fun of people for having disposable income is really pathetic.
To be quite frank, everyone should buy more cosmetics. It adds extra flair to the game.
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>>163133283
I did post my mmr
I'm
>>163132889
Now tell me how awful I am. Tell me I'm a worthless slut
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how does it feel to learn you're posting along with literal trashcans that don't know about basic mechanics like magic resistance dotards?
glad i stopped playing this shit game a long time ago
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>>163133380
Fuck off and revert the UI already
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Echo Saber
>New item for melee heroes
>Strength-based
>Earlygame item with good effect but no upgrades
Aether Lens
>New item for spellcasters
>Intelligence-based
>Earlygame item with good effect but no upgrades
Dragon Lance
>New item for ranged heroes
>Agility-based
>Earlygame item with good effect, good stats, and an upgrade
Umm... DOTARDS???
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>want to look for visage games to watch
>don't even have to search because the top two games are visage
We have entered a strange dimension.
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>>163133472
>revert the UI
valve can't do that because they don't want to pay money to the devs of scaleform (the system the old ui used) anymore. they only 'rented' scaleform, now that they have their own UI, they can maximize their profits.
get used to it.
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>>163133472
The new ui is designed specifically to allow ease of access to information instead of drowning a newer player in it.
If you want to pretend like you're actually calculating something, then hold alt. The new ui is a blend of artistry and cutting edge modern design. The old one isn't coming back. But to help yourself get acclimated to the new one, maybe try some of the new HUD skins.
>>
why did they remove the levelup hotkey?
>>
>tfw no christmas event
>not even a winter terrain
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>>163133621
sure but what if they made a good UI instead?
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>>163133696
to make you mad
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>>163133492
Don't forget

>You'd be literally stupid not to build either of these three items on melee carries, supports, and ranged carries respectively
>Because their stats are stupidly good and good efficient compared to literally every other early game item in the game
>Hell meepo builds the same one three times because fuck it
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>>163133701
Valve giving all Christian nations the finger for Chinks.
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>>163133714
how would they make more money with a better UI? all they need is the game to be 'playable' and an easy to use store.
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>>163133701
There will be a winter compendium right after the fall one, with exciting new skins and a seasonal terrain. Be patient.
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>>163133654
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>>163133492
NEW ITEM: AETHER SHARD. Requires: 2x aether lens
+550 Mana
+18 HP regen
+9% Spell Damage
Cast Range Increase: 350
Bonus daytime vision: 325
Consume to get the effects of a regular Aether Lens
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>>163133492
how has echo sabre received zero changes since creation
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>>163133701
What's his endgame, dotards?
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>1 Forge Spirit
this kills the Carl
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>>163133654
>The new ui is a blend of artistry and cutting edge modern design

It's shit
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>>163134004
good, invoker is cancer
>>
>playing lycan
>necrophos on my team
>dazzle on my team
>finish the game with more healing than both of them combined
la may yo
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>>163134225
nice reddit formatting kys
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>>163134225
Valve should just cap the fps to 30fps
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>>163133939
gonna be honest it's not a terrible idea but consuming should only give the mana and range not the hp regen
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>9"
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You have 12 seconds to justify the existence of this item.
>Bad stats
>Bad aura
>Bad active
>Passive completely obsoleted by BKB
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>>163133982
The slow duration was increased to 1s recently I believe.
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>>163134453
why not? it fits the spirit of power creeping the game has
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>>163134004
He's been good for like a million patches, he can sit one out.

Though honestly he's still probably OP as shit.
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>>163134517
Centaur
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>>163134517
Surviving AoE nukes in teamfights.
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so has anyone min maxed talents yet? i hate thinking for myself
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Monkey king does NOT need a 2 second stun and he does NOT need 80% lifesteal.

Refute this.
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>>163134517
zeus also exists
just remove both from the game 2bh
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>>163134484
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>>163134713
Monkey king DOES need a 2 second stun and he DOES need 80% lifesteal.

ur move
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>>163134713
Monkey needs a 60 second stun and 1000% lifesteal plus the ability to keep divine rapier after death
>>
nice frames per second dotards ;D
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>>163134713
You're a faggot.

Refute this.
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>>163134738
stop bullying me u fking anime sluts
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=129kuDCQtHs
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>>163134902
I suck dick. Big whoop.
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>>163131217
what if hes safelane? then what?
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So I've only played a couple games of 7.0, is Wukong actually OP or is it just the same group of retards as those who whine about Ursa being OP because they keep trying to 1v1 him?

I played him once and he didn't feel particularly strong, played against him multiple times and I still didn't feel like he was too much of an issue.
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>>163132040
if slark has to stick on one hero in order to kill him for +4 seconds, then he cant commit to it
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>Make MK's Q slow instead of stun
>Remove lifesteal from Dindu Stick
>Make it do a bonus 200 damage ministun for 4 hits
>Passive still applies on Q
>Passive now has a short cd after all charges are expended
What would be the impact of this change? Im just a little peeved they made him not have a minibash despite his item having a minibash.
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>>163135049
MK is actually fine, his passive + Q are bullshit in lane, but he tapers off somewhat as the game goes later and is easy to burst down.

It's generally dumb to listen to /d2g/ about balance, especially since most of the people complain about Slark lel.
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>>163135049
You probably went against shitters. All the monkey needs is an echo saber and basher to rape ass. The copies in his ult share his attack so they can bash too.
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>>163134954
>implying sucking dick is gay
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>>163135049
problem is fucking NO one can touch him in lane 1v1 at lvl 1-5, and if he's safelane with a support or two around him most typical offlane combo lanes can't fight him either because of that fucking heal
ursa doesnt have 300 range, and his clap is a small aoe AND he doesnt get 3-400 hp worth at lvl 2-3 with his combo
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>>163134954
what kind of dick
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>>163135220
good lemon key players go shit like phase echo into straight bkb, since it allows him to just go balls deep in fights and get of good ulties into 4 charges into WHACK 500 crit on anyone
his ult soldiers proccing on echo and basher is so bullshit really
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>>163135049
He's OP and will 100% be nerfed, he relies on snowballing a bit.
You probably went against a retard who simply first picked it because its a new hero or because of being tired of losing against a competent MK whilst being ignorant about his skillset and then not knowing how to use him
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>people play mk as anything but a 3
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>>163135240
>>163135329
'''feminine dicks'' do not exist you fucking homosexual faglords
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is Crystal "Maiden" the most horrible title given to someone in dota land?
this "Maiden" doesnt look like a maiden to me , hell Lina the Slayer is more of a maiden compared to this slut.
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>>163135049
He actually is OP. Garunteed 200% AoE crit, 50% lifesteal and 200 extra damage after 4 hits. (Which also improves Boundless Swing) You need flying vision to see him in trees, meaning he's as good at ganking as stealth heroes.

His ult actually kind of sucks and requires people to stay in it for the entire duration. But with a little bit of support or a good position it can kill.

>>163135292
I played a WR against one once and absolutely annihilated him from start of the game to the finish. Unfortunately it's WR.
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>>163135049
merlini went 0 - 5 against mk yesterday, see >>163129021
that should answer your question
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>>163135517
>Can't just give his buddy a blowjob without worrying about it being gay
It might be you who's the gay one
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>>163135517
you just dont get it shitlord
i bet you're the same gender as you were born as fuckign wierdo
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>>163134004
He's still basically an ace of all trades.
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>>163135647
mk has 50% wr in 5k+
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>>163135049
he is OP as fuck and will probably get nerfed to shit next patch
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>>163135790
earth spirit had a 35% winrate when he was released.

your point?
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>>163135647
with stan king
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>>163135863
>global wr
vs
>5k+ wr
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>game crashes while i'm spamming tinker's march to defend HG
>come back to ancient being blown up
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>>163135647
>that should answer your question

It doesn't answer anything, Merlini is not that good of a player, he's just good at analysing.
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>>163135636
>I played a WR against one once and absolutely annihilated him from start of the game to the finish. Unfortunately it's WR.
in the midlane maybe, but if hes safelane and has +1 hero to force your regen/windrun its gg
yeah you can say that about many safelaners, but I honestly cant think of any offlaners that can man up against him, even combos. he beats ursa, timber and many more in lane, thats fucking saying something
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>>163135795
>How to balance MK
*Change Stun to a slow
*Remove Lifesteal from Jingu Mastery
*Let any kind of wards see him in trees, not just those on high ground
*Reduce Strength Growth to 1.8

There. He's now a strong melee character that can catch people unaware, but not able to manfight, folding to stuns and strong damage.
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>>163135927
>5k+
>good players

you always have to look at the top players, not the masses of scrubs.

look at these winrates and tell me he's balanced again.
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>>163136175
I'm pretty sure those people have 90%+ winrates on other heroes as well.
>>
>play like your life depends on it
>lose

>play drunk and hardly serious
>win

why even play this clusterfuck that is 7.00. i mean its kinda fun to see everyone not knowing whats going on, but still
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>>163136175
can you post that shibe avatar thanks
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>>163136175
WTF SNIPER IS OP AS FUCK??? NERF WHEN???
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>>163136234
whatever you say, my man.

look how this guys winrate went up after he started spamming mk
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>>163134194
reckon it works in calibration?
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>>163136175
>>163136397
WTF TROLL NERFS WHEN???
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>>163136494
>>163136338
upset MK spammer detected. your toon WILL get nerfed and your arcana WILL be worthless. deal with it.
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>>163136554
WTF???
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>>163135969
>he's just good at analysing
And he's saying Wukong is OP as fuck. Since he's a good analyzer, he just might be right. He gets visibly upset every time he has to lane against MK.
>>
Remember when people tried to convince /vg/ release arc warden was balanced if not underpowered? good times.
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>>163126127
them juicy delts
lmaoing @ bitches saying vidya proposes unrealistic standards for female physique
literally lmaoing @ they life
>>
>>163136763
I'd be interested to hear what he thinks should be changed on him.
>>
>>163126782
that letter is not pronounced "cross" you fucking mongoloid. the term x-mas comes from the greek letter X (chi) which is the first letter in Χριστός (Greek for christ)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas
>>
>>163136842
his first few nerfs balanced him
everything after those was throwing him into the trash
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https://oddshot.tv/shot/UzqronryrolA15GYsxa-kagy

>b-but he's balanced you guys
>just don't 1v1 him XD
>>
>>163137121
Maybe if he had gotten a stun off. The only thing that can handle him, right now is perma stunning him.
>>
>>163137121
I legitimately believe /d2g/ doesn't play DotA, if they would have they'd know that any monkey king above 2k just roams the entire game and almost never actually bothers lanes.
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>>163137121
https://clips.Bitch.tv/merlinidota/ImportantArmadilloVaultBoy

:^)
>>
>>163137121
Quite frankly, any hero can GUARANTEED kill you from above half health with a basic fucking ability has some kind of problem going on. Never before have I been 3 minutes into the game and gone "Gee I sure hope this hero doesnt 1 shot me from 1200 range away."
It just isnt right
>>
>>163136554
>be new hero
>no one knows how to counter you yet because people are retarded and haven't figured out how you work yet
>people honestly believe that their kneejerk assumptions on balance are valid
Stay salty and keep losing, faggot.
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>>163137121
>level 7 hero kills an underlevelled supportcuck
huh
>>
>>163137387
>Be a late game support
>Get one shot
>Don't even get to use any of my abilities
It's fun.
>>
>>163137387
He can't guaranteed kill you from above half health. He has to proc is passive and use his singular damage ability on a 25 second cooldown. Learn how to kite you faggot.
Or play veno or viper and watch mk cry
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>>163137439
watch the match, merlini was 1v1 against monkey king and went like 0/5. with time walk.
>>
>>163135049
Surprisingly yes, but not because of his damage. It's because of his stealth ability, which requires flying vision to see him, and he can move around a shitton while he uses it with no mana cost.
>>
http://www.twitch
.tv/dota2vods247?sr=a

Last day of ti 3 just started
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>>163137478
>jumps in front of you
>has damage charges saved
>nothin personnel kid
>obliterates you before it's even possible for you to respond with CC
>memelords that want easy MMR will unironically defend this
>>
Nice dotards, game.
>>
tfw MK, a fun hero, is going to get nerfed because reddit can't handle him and will join arc warden in the sub-40% winrates
meanwhile centaur has a 57% winrate but it's okay xDD
>>
>>163137745
I have yet to see a MK buy BKB, but I know if they did, I would cry. There would be zero way to stop him from getting his stacks and obliterating someone in a teamfight outside of being Sven or Jugger or something.
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>>163137552
>1v1
you mean 1v3 with stan king on wisp until they abandoned the lane
>>
>be supportcuck
>be too stupid to ward
>be too worthless to use your cc
>allow mk to proc his passive and kill you
>wtf? I died do to my own stupidity? NERF!
>Unironically call melee huskar op
pretty pathetic desu.
Literally draft
Lina
Lion
CM
Oracle
A not shit slardar
Timbersaw
Venomancer
Viper
Oh wow, suddenly he becomes useless. It's like magic
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>>163137817
Monkey King is so fucking easy for
>Silencer
>Troll Warlord
>Rod of Atos
>Shadow Shaman
to deal with it's actually kind of silly.
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>>163137937
?
did euls, scythe, atos, ghost scepter, glimmer, orb of venom, skadi and shiva's all get removed from the game while I wasn't looking?
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>>163137817
>swaths of completely new players are installing the game and trying him out in unranked pubs with no idea what to do
>still has 50% winrate
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>>163137745
He doesn't even have to be fed to do it either. Both are level 7.
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>>163138101
>Euls can go through BKB
>Scythe can go through BKB
>He cant just wait out Scepter with his BKB then slam you from 1200 range away
>He cant just slam where you last were with his girthy 1200 range nuke when you Glimmer
>OOV is gonna stop him from running you down with Phase, Echo, Skadi, a 1200 range stun, and his ult bashing and applying everything on you
>Shiva is gonna stop him from murdering you with a Q
You seem to forget he can initiate whenever he wants from the trees, and not many spots have cliff vision to actually see him. A smart MK would never let himself be seen or caught out.
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>>163138170
how many completely new players go straight to 5k+?
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>>163138275
>If you just play the hero perfectly you can't lose
I feel like the same is true for fucking Venomancer.

It means nothing.
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>>163138026
>>be too stupid to ward
>wards give flying vision in more than a few very easily avoided areas

behold: carryfags
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>>163138242
>a single damage ability
>on a 25 second cooldown
Yeah, he better obliterate people with that shit, otherwise he's trash
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>>163138026
>draft Lina
>make another hero useless
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>>163138361
You haven't played Lina this patch yet, have you?
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>>163138320
>See enemy from treetop
>Pop BKB
>Primal Slam him from 1200 range away
>Lul invulnerable to disables
>Smack them 4 times
>Q
>Literally anyone is dead
Woooow that was so hard to press a button before I jumped out to make sure I won that fight
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>>163138324
I like how you ignore my bit about using your cc
Behold: the power of reddit supportcucks
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>>163138345
It's a normal, non-ultimate ability. What other kind of ability could take an enemy from 100% to nearly dead in one hit?
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>>163138426
>play viper
>mk can literally do nothing
wow
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>>163138345
Well then Finger of Pain should be fucking 15 sec cd at all levels and only cost 75 mana because I dont see that shit blowing up as many people as MK does
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>>163138509
but it's clearly 2 combined abilities?
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>>163138403
>See enemy from treetop
>Leap down
>Think you're immune to disables
>Get buttfucked by Spirit Breaker
>Find out how squishy you really are
I've gotten 200 MMR today picking moocow against the monkey. Spirit Breaker maintains vision on him while he's jumping around trees, and he's so fucking squishy that if you have Echo Sabre there's nothing monkey king can do unless he has help.
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>>163138426
>burning a whole BKB charge to kill 1 support

What did she mean by this?
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>>163137048
(You)
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>>163138509
a non fed mk isn't one shotting anyone. He has to hit you first and proc his passive.
Keep him from hitting you.
Draft viper, draft veno
Get people with slows and roots. Hell, you can even get silencer. Stop being a cuck
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>>163138463
>MK waits until you are turned away from him
>hops down, hits Q, whacks you to death
>you L I T E R A L L Y cannot respond

you are the kind of retard that types "gg no wards" in chat after running alone into enemy territory
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https://www.twitch tv/merlinidota/v/108123164?t=08h20m49s

how the fuck is THIS balanced?
>>
Has this gen finally realized that new Techies are better than old Techies?
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>>163138426
>see enemy from anywhere
>pop bkb and overpower
>blink on them from 1200 range away
>earthshock
>smack them 7 times
>earthshock again if not dead
>repeat until dead
woooow

>see enemy from anywhere
>waveform in
>use eblade and adaptive strike as a wave in
>literally anyone is dead
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>>163138679
You have 4 hits to respond. I'm not the one losing to mk like a retard and then blogging on 4chan about it.
Use the tools in your arsenal, autist.
Move around, when he hops to a tree near you, it's telegraphed. Pay the fuck attention.
His leap has a channel time, be less bad.
Also
>>you are the kind of retard that types "gg no wards" in chat after running alone into enemy territory
Confirmed supportcuck who doesn't bother to ward.
Your losses are your own fault, now go back and whine on reddid
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>>163125606
learn to press tab and w four times in 2s and you've learnt the hero
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>>163138727
nah, people are too upset about wukong, visage, fps issues and the new ui
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>>163138585
Lion has unlimited cc and has more than one option for damage
mk has a single damage option with a minor stun.
Go be a retard somewhere else.
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>tfw you trying to get back to 4k and this is your mid.

1-2k shitters playing on smurfs,soo frustrating swear it happens almost every game.the dude even randomed i dont even anymore
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>see enemy from fog
>tab w tab w tab w tab w tab w
>blink on them from 1200 range away
>turn them into a pig
>poof poof poof poof poof whack whack whack
>literally anyone is dead
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>tfw people say necro got nerfed
>is actually absolutely OP now

doturds?
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>>163138617
People still don't seem to realize what a glass cannon mk is. Whatever the case, I will enjoy the salty tears of people who pick him and don't understand his weaknesses.
And when I play him I will enjoy the tears of people who don't know how to stop him.
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>>163139108
What's the difference between dotards and doturds
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>>163139108
i ban him everygame i dont even care about monkey,necro is absolutely broken atm
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>>163139113
>>163138910
>>163138026
>i spam mk for literally free mmr and i am scared that my broken toon will get nerfed after they sold enough arcanas to the kids

lol
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BUILD ME
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>>163139113
So far, roots and bashes. I tried Disarms but you can't halberd through BKB.

What have you noticed that's a thorn in your side when playing MK?
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>>163139168
dota retards
vs
dota shitters
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>>163139308
honestly, slardar.
The bashes get me every time.
Also viper. He kites hard and it makes me very sad.
Any type of ranged nuker.
Or, people like sniper can get annoying, especially if he builds mkb
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>>163139283
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>>163139308
DoTs and slows make him utterly useless
veno ruins his shit so fucking hard
>well warded
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>>163139249
>whine about the new hero
>get given advice on how to shut him down
>scoff and whine instead
Have fun in the trenches, faggot.
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>>163138517
>Being Viper stops MK from just going to another lane and murdering someone else
>Poison attack goes through BKB
>Viper Strike damage goes through BKB
>Any of these stop him from Primal Leaping ON TOP OF YOU

>>163138627
>Not killing the support, the 2 carries behind them coming to fight you, and the guy off to the side with your 3 other dindu charges

>>163138850
>Implying Ursa isnt a shit hero everywhere else
>Implying he can do that to multiple people, lifesteal back to full, and summon clones to permabash people
>Implying people cant just Force Staff away from you, and now you dont have a 1200 range nuke to deal with
>Implying you wont see Ursa or Morphling coming because they dont hide in trees and dont require flying vision to see them

You guys are really bad at defending MK
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>>163139417
So exactly what I thought
Kiting and bashes. I'll try Viper next time I'm against MK, see how that goes.

Thanks anon.
>>163139492
I noticed that today, I randomed Veno and Monkey King had an extremely hard time. Leaping away did nothing to prevent damage dealt from Veno's abilities. I had the monkey dying in the trees so many times.
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Are certain "supports" not viable. For example, I love playing ancient apparition but he is farm dependent and level dependent and can't farm quickly or effectively. He is slow AND fragile.

What are his options? Should I bother playing him as a support? I just don't know anymore.

I hate supports like Lion because I get this feeling he is supposed to just go in, use all abilities and die. I don't like playing like that.

I just want to hide in trees or out of sight and cast spells that can impact the battlefield. Any advice on who I should be playing?
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>>163139575
>AA
>lion
>''supports''

try playing them solo mid
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>>163139562
He's not really a direct counter. But I've found pugna to be an absolutely infuriating annoyance. Especially if he times decreptify on himself properly. It negates the damage of boundless strike
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>>163138585
>A single damage option
>800 total bonus damage from his passive, can use echo sabre very well, deso, Primal Leap deals damage and slows on a combined 2000 range gap closer, his ult gives bonus damage, applies on hit effects, and can stunlock you permanently for its duration
Ya
One damage option
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>>163139562
he shouldn't even be able to leap anywhere if you get a gale on him since it works like blink dagger
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>>163139714
Becoming Ethereal blocks Boundless Strike?
Would that make Necro a good pick?
>>
>mods actively abusing their power to silence dissenting opinions AGAIN

honestly 4chan mods should be shot
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>>163139731
Meant for >>163139007
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I play a lot of fucking CK. Ask me anything.
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>>163139793
Yes, ethereal form negates physical damage. Boundless strike is physical damage. You'll still get stunned but it will not deal damage.
I haven't found necro to be an issue unless the team is helping him.
I have found pugna quite annoying, even 1v1
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>>163139736
It does? He was always out of my los when he died so I just assumed. That helps a lot anon, I usually let MK go when he left my vision assuming he just skipped away.
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>>163139873
why
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>>163139873
aghs?

>>163139905
yeah any kind of damage disables his leap for 3s
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>>163139731
>hmmm, I see this incredibly telegraphed ult being channeled, maybe I should interrupt it
>or run away since it can only hit one person at a time
>nope, I guess I'll just stand in it and die
great plan
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>>163139873
what do you think about support ck with aghs
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>>163139968
what if he rushes bkb
and no, thats not a 'no dmg build'
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>>163139562
I've found morphling to be quite good against him.
He's pretty squish so the eblade combo just fucks his shit up
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>>163139968
>hit one person at a time
???
The entire point is that he can just pop BKB and jump through the trees into the backline onto people who can actually stun him. He goes on you, initiates with the stun, gets off his ult, and now you have to run through THAT to escape while they all proc bashes, skadis, and sabres, while he is also now hitting you.
You act like this is an unrealistic situation.
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>>163140048
>what is bash
also, yeah that is a no damage build. Do you know how bad he is without echos saber?
Alternatively, just. y'know? Step out of the circle since he can't perma bash you in it since he rushed bkb.
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>>163139943
He's fun to play, ever since I first played him. Illusion game is stronk.
>>163139963
Having tried aghs yet this patch, haven't looked for opportunities to use it on teammates.
>>163140030
It could work. CK works pretty well as a roaming support. Picking up Midas helps to farm that aghs. The item is still situational, since you want a good hero to make illusions out of.
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>>163140048
The "Rush BKB" mentality is what makes me pick Troll Warlord against Monkey King.
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>>163140149
>>163140048
wait so are we rushing bkb or is it a ultra late game MK now
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>>163133757
>either of these three items
>using a comparative word with more than 2 objects

kill yourself :DDDD holy HSIT IM SO ACTUALLY MAD ITS FUCKERSM LIEK YOU THAT RUIN MY DOTA GAMES WITH YOUR SHITTY ENGLISH SMPAMMING "taco taco LJASJAJAJAJ" AMND OLOSUING M,E MMR
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>>163140149
>be on a not retarded team
>mk jumps on all of us while his team are a few meters away
>bash him and stunlock him to death
>nuke him down
wow, that was hard
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Redpill me on Queen of Pain.
I want to become good at playing her, but I am currently baddy as fuck.
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>all these baddies complaining about mk
nigga just play wraith king
>>
So, /d2g/, what's DEGGIES like now?
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>>163140216
>100% going to land a bash on MK before he can stun you
You are literally leaving his death up to chance

>>163140282
Really, you only need Sabre and BKB to do damage with MK and be safe, and this is early-mid game if you're doing well. All the other shit I said about shiva and basher is just things that he would eventually be getting and you would have to deal with, but the point stays the same. He's immune to stuns, you're stunned, and he's getting 280 damage from his passive and ult.
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>>163140421
shut up retard don't let them know about the OTK
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>>163140338
sumail build.
>>
>hitss q
>does half yur health
the complaints are warraned
>>
is there a good video that shows how TA is played by good people?
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>>163140493
>rush bkb
>have no way to keep people in circle
>they walk out of circle
>ult is wasted
Stop making excuses for YOUR bad plays
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>>163138692
poorly
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>>163140338
>sumail build.
What is it?
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>game goes back to having heroes divided in Radiant and Dire

how does this affect the current meta and/or general gameplay?
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>>163140639
oops, meant to reply to >>163140519
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>>163140627
>Completely disregarding what I said about Sabre
Even then
>Pop BKB
>Primal Leap in
>You are now slowed
>Collect stacks
You also forget the built-in stun, if they so choose to use it.
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>>163140561
watch some of dragonfist's vods. he's a ta mainer who reached the top of the NA mmr leaderboards

dragonfistdota is the channel name
>>
reminder to make sure your home is up to fire code
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>>163140769
>you are now slowed
*pops glimmer cape*
psh...nothing personnel...kid
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>>163140769
>being so stupid you can't tell when mk leaps to a tree near you
It's telegraphed as fuck, open your eyes and stop being shit at the game
>>
>>163140639
veil blademail octarine maelstrom linkens. forgot the order.
>>
https://twitter.com/EternaLEnVy1991/status/810278824109871104

weebs you have 10 seconds to explain this
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Is Heaven's Halberd officially the worst item in the game?
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>I lose mmr and get the blame for the game as the offlaner when i attempted to help my trilane safe that's fed 9 kills to the enemy offlaner
>>
So
Does Monkey King's debut mean that we'll be back to the era of players suggesting heroes?

Because I really want that shit to come back
>>
>>163140935
nope, that would be SnY, HotD, or MoM
>>
>>163139108
What's a good 7.00 build for Necro? Dagon+Aghs and just delete people?
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>>163140830
>Pops dust because you build efficient items and have inventory slots to spare
What now???

>>163140839
>Implying seeing him in your vision matters because he has a 2000 range gap closer
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>>163141000
>HotD
>worst item
It's literally what drums used to be, with a better active.
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i finally figured out how to beat monkey king 1v1 with any hero.

basically you have to play like a total pussy. don't go for last hits, because he will kill you in 4 hits at lvl 2. just leech exp and hope that your team wins the other two lanes.
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>>163141086
drums never had a FREE AS IN FREE BEER 8HP/S REGEN AURA
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>>163141141
Why don't people just lane Necro against him?

>ranged
>heartstopper to annoy him
>heal
>if he jumps on you / tries to start stacking up his passive just use your new spoopy ghost ability that slows him down and makes you invulnerable to his Q and right clicks.
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>>163141141
just play zeus against him, he literally cant kill you and every time he tried you hit him with lightning. ya you can literally never stop him from farming but at least you wont get 1 shot probably assuming no one ever ganks mid
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>it's a "wah you guys didn't provide me with INFINITE SPACE and win the game for me" edition
>>
quick: should i play treant or undying? i'm rushing midas
>>
>>163141141
or you just pick veno or viper and bully him out of the lane
>>
wtf is necrophos good now?
>>
>>163141443
undying
>>
>>163141443
undying
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Quick: what hero should I sexualize?
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>>163141556
pugna
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>>163141527
>>163141540
ok, i'll go for it.
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>>163141632
good luck anon
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>>163124446
>Soe
>a good christian

top o' the meme to you, lad
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ONE
FUCKING
JOB
>>
>unit panels overlap with the kill and creep stats
one fucking job holy shit
>>
>>163141141
I absolutely shit on every mid monkey king as storm, I always kill them in lane because they think they can trade with me at lvl 2. I dumpstered one just yesterday as Arc warden too. When I play mid I make it so the monkey king has to play passive, don't play like a bitch.

Git fucking gud, he is so dogshit late game if you refrain from feeding him your carry will beat him lategame. Also if you're a cuck support you can forcestaff him outside his ult to cancel it but you're probably a 2k shitter that didn't know that.
>>
>>163142212
He has to be pointing the right way for force staff to work.
>>
What if there was an item that cost 6000+ gold and made it so items put into your backpack didn't become inactive, and if the item itself did nothing and took up a full slot on its own?
>>
>>163142212
>everyone, including pros agrees that mk is pretty stong right now and is a tough matchup

Ok, seems reasonable so far

>Basically every person on /d2g/ "shits on" MK every time they play against him no matter what hero theyre using

Yeah totally, youre definitely not 500mmr or anything
>>
>>163142212
>forcestaff
this was the first thing i thought of as a monkey player
its funny how nobody builds it
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>>163142482
Storm, Tinker, Zeus and Arc warden take a massive shit on his chest in mid, he can't even lane mid against someone playing these heroes well.

Stop making excuses for yourself just because you lost against le new OP curahzy hero

>>163142394
No shit? I bet you don't build forcestaff against void
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>>163142482
>everyone, including pros
top kek
nice reddit spacing btw friend
>>
post hero concepts so I can steal them

>Nedra (Cave Vagrant - INT)

>Dig: Digs a tunnel under the earth, rendering herself unable to attack or be attacked, at the cost of halving her movement speed and being struck with extra damage by ground area of effect spells. While underground, Nedra can still cast Grub Soil and Worm Food, but using her current position as area target. Recasting Dig causes Nedra to burst out, dealing damage in a small area around her.
>Headbutt (Autocast): Headbutts an enemy on Nedra’s first attack, dealing bonus damage and stunning them. Recently headbutted enemies have a chance to miss attacks.
>Grub Soil: Causes underworm grubs to come out of the ground in a target area looking for food, slowing and dealing damage over time to enemies who step on them.
>Worm Food: Calls a Worm Matriarch to the surface, dealing area damage in both the cast and target locations. Enemies caught in the starting area will be carried with the creature while it jumps, thus being dealt both the starting and landing damage.
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>>163142417
sounds stupid

it'll be in the next patch
>>
is monkey king the biggest abuser of the 100% movespeed slow of echo sabre?
>>
>>163141438
I guarantee you that most 'me ooga, team booga' posts are heavily exaggerated to shift all blame off the person making it.
>>
>>163142758
>tfw no graboid hero
>>
nice pathing dotards
>>
Is Anti-Mage autistic?
>>
>>163143146
rule 3 faggots
>>
>>163143039
yes
>>
>>163143441
no rule 3 is the one that says no niggers allowed
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>>163142758
>Kain (Zealot - Melee AGI)

>Q - Rend: Deals damage over time and reduces healing/regen by 50%.

>W - Chalice of Blood: Passively collects stacks of blood every hit on an enemy hero. Stacks are consumed when the active portion is used, healing per stack.

>E - Circle of Wrath: Marks a target, reducing their armor and magic resistance for a few seconds.

>R - Enrage: Increases an ally's damage and resistance greatly. Only lasts for a short time. The same target cannot be Enraged more than once for a few minutes.
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>>163141000
Mom is great. Good dmg + huge attack speed buff for a measly 5 armor and silence is amazing on some heroes.
>>
>our literal and undisputed guy CLQ is fast approaching 30k subs

based
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>>163124539
QoP is amazing.

Play the fourth position and max dagger, she is the strongest level 2 hero in the game with a blink dagger, 200 magic damage, 20% slow and 60 right click damage, I've solo killed the offlaner many times at 4.5k mmr.

Buy a mek, mana boots, blademail. Pick up aghs when you get level 25 and take the spell-lifesteal talent.

if you play mid or somehow get a lot of farm never buy aghs, orchid is way better, blademail for survivability.

---this book belongs to the half blood prince.
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>>163142817
it's mostly team, not people in here really.

My carry monkey king has died 14 times, more than EVERYONE in the game. he is blaming his supports
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>>163134517
It's an aura, Supports won't get flamed for getting an Aura Badkingbar
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>>163126127
>Can't have fat Storm Spirit
>Can't have ugly Lion
>Now have Enigma, who doesn't even need muscles and had no players asking for them, swole
I don't get Valve.
>>
>>163140740
Radient is fucked
>>
Should I spam SF or Jug for easy mmr ?
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>>163134517
t. sub 1k shit-stain who has never used Pipe to block 400 AoE nuke damage on his team during a team fight
>>
>>163137737
no one cares old fag
dota pre TI5 may as well not exist because EG wasnt around then to kick everyones asses
>>
>>163141000
>SnY
debateable
>HotD
Literally Olddrums. You're fucking high
>MoM
Don't build it on casters you fuck
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this guy comes to your lane and slaps your carry on the ass.

what do you do?
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>>163144921
>my carry
we'll i'd probably put my support on him
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Nice UI, dotards.
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>tfw no streamer is streaming games with monkey king because everyone with high mmr instabans him every game
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nice frames per second, dotards.
>>
Why the fuck are MKs doing first item Vanguard
And then proceed to never build deso or build early game items, and never do damage
Holy shit how can people not understand that all he does is shit damage, just build damage and get BKB at some point
>>
When is the next UI update? :^)
>>
>>163145829
hang on just tweaking the final bits
>>
I have over 2200 hours in dota 2. And still.. I only ever play support for the most part. No other role makes any real sense to me. I honestly hate farming and just want to fight enemy heroes all day and push. I hate farming. Core positions though are basically farming positions.

fuck.. I just want to do something else but the role just isn't there. I also hate like 2/3 of the fucking hero pool. The only hero I actually did enjoy was old elder titan and old earth spirit. New titan and earth are kind of shitty.
>>
https://www.twitch tv/2gd

Reminder that our guy is streaming
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>>163146474
james is an ass
i'm glad he got blacklisted
>>
/d2g/ friends
http://www.strawpoll.me/11908873/r
i need you to vote soraka for me
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>>163125606
play against hard bots and use your numbers above qwer to control the individual meepos
>>
Hey brehs
If Rubick steals Skywrath Mage ult while Rubick has scepter, does tele and fade bolt have the double cast effect?
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>>163146645
start a bot match to test, I actually don't know.
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>>163146547
>wanting to fuck a literal goat
>>
Just think about how many hours you have in dota and how long you have devoted to it

probably less than 10k hours?

just think that career airforce or airline pilots have 10-15k flight hours

does that not just blow your fucking mind
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>use Naga Song
>find all enemies behind their T1
>Monkey King sets up his Ult
>Treant Protector Ults
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>>163146846
>People who do thing as their job clock more hours than a hobby
>>
>>163146846
Sure, if I dedicated even half of my time spent on my computer on something useful I probably wouldn't be so miserable all the time.

But video games are so much fun!
>>
>>163146769
>the literal goat is better than mf
>I want to get fucked by the goat
>>
dude teamfights

dude everyone 25 at 40
dude carries on track to 25 at 30
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https://www.twitch.
tv/dota2vods247?sr=a

Navi v Orange Game 3
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sex?
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>>163146645
Just tested it

Nope. Only skywrath's ability does.
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Why don't you buy me anon? I'm now the best item in the game after all...
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>>163147059
FUCK
OFF
OLD
FAG
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>>163140149
they do not proc sabres
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>>163147179
maybe that axe is out of range
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>>163147332
I still forget it exists
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>>163147332
nice bait but 7.00 atos is God tier
>>
YAMES IS STRIM
>>
How do you counter lc now?
XP comes way too fast.
Jungle is way too fast.
Once you hit level 25 you autowin
>>
>>163147608
Did he cancel his game already? Why isn't he streaming that
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>>163147663
Eul's
>>
if mike pence tried to shock storm spirit would storm get hurt?
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>>163125884
Play Chess

It is the game of kings, philosophers, and geniuses.
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>>163148020
What's the move where two allies units can swap positions in the one turn? I think it's two specific pieces. I always forget what it is though.
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>>163147038
Futa soraka is so 2014 though
She's too cute to keep being some weird deformed futa goat. She is now for loving, rewarding for supporting, and rape.
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>>163148141
Castle Kingside. Only valid if neither the rook on the king's side, and the king haven't moved yet.
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>>163148020
but dota is literally chess but with 4 retards, a fantasy setting, a gold system, infinitely spawning troops, more than a hundred pieces, experience system, damage system, graphics, a chat system, and a few other things
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>>163148168
I disagree. There's enough rapebait supports already with Sona, Janna, Nami .....
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Let's get this going
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>>163148265
>Kingside
I bet your first move on White is always E5 too, you pansy.
>>
How many ladyboys does it take to satiate him

https://twitter.com/TobiWanDOTA/status/810713802878484480
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>>163147663
tanky heroes with shitty auto damage

timbersaw
axe
ogre magi
tidehunter
centaur warrunner
alchemist

doom and alch are not really good since they have -666 armor at level 25

on the other hand, but not so importantly, heroes that can delay a death or interrupt duels

beastmaster
dazzle
bane
winter waifu
oracle

you are welcome
>>
How do I win games with people trying to throw it as hard as they can

>offlaners who beg for help that they aren't getting farm
>supports who refuse to support, afk farm/feed
etc.
>>
So Im not sure if this is a bug
But I think Wukong's ult can hit Slark during his ult
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>>163148694
Lastpick heroes that require niche counterpicks to be stopped.
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>>163148020
that greek gift though
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>>163148694
I usually pick an offlane that can both gank and transition into carry effectively, not only no one fights with me for my lane pick, i literally win the games on my own by winning all my allied lanes after i hit lvl 3
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>>163148779
Slark doesn't actually disappear, right?
I mean, the tooltip says he goes invisible but can't be revealed.
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>>163148898
He can actually be revealed through Bloodseeker's Thirst.
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>>163148779
slark ult just puts him in invis that can't be revealed by any means
only AOE/point click ability work on him including cleaves and whatever the fuck you casted on him before his ult
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>>163148996
But that's a bug, I assume.
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>>163149043
Does he get hit by Sleight of Fist and Tricks of the Trade?
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>>163148694
>>offlaners who beg for help that they aren't getting farm
Around what MMR do people figure out what the offlane is? (not that it matters now with +GPM/XPM talents up the ass)
>>
Thoughts on antimage this patch?

I think the skadi change is substantial. How the fuck do you kill an antifun with a heart and a skadi, especially once he hits lvl 25 and gets his 3s blink? You have to go through close to 4k hp during a stunlock, and he can manfight damn near anything because the only hero that can get farm faster than him is alchemist.
>>
i finally fixed my fps
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>>163148779
Stealth Assassin ult can dodge MK Q though.
>>
Guys what if this remake for wraith king aghanims:
>when in wraith form, you can go into negative HP
>if you go above 0 HP during wraith form, you go back to being alive
>if you are still at negative HP after 7 seconds, you die
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>>163149176
>How the fuck do you kill an antifun with a heart and a skadi, especially once he hits lvl 25 and gets his 3s blink? You have to go through close to 4k hp during a stunlock, and he can manfight damn near anything because the only hero that can get farm faster than him is alchemist.
I usually just Delete Local Content...
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>>163149260
>literally infinite lives if you have satanic
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>>163149241
>Phases out of the world while striking every enemy from behind in a 500 radius once per second.
>Phases out of the world
>out of the world
no shit
>>
so what is the monkey king build?
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Our guy is streaming
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>>163145829
I think valve went on vacation

prob said fuck it
>>
AEGIS
DENIAL
ORANGE WILL NEVER RECOVER
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>>163149597
redditlaide?
>>
>>163149597
TU TU TU
TUTU TURUUUUUUUU
>>
>>163149597
avatarfag?
>>
>>163149597
analaide?
>>
>>163147038
Soraka's unfuckable, I'd rather go as far as coughing up that $2.95 a minute if it meant I didn't have to fuck her
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>>163149706
>>163149747
>>163149787
>>163149820
Adelaide
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>>163149954
I report you every time you post you avatarfagging cunt.

Hope you get permabanned.
>>
>play viper
>lose lane
>but win game
ehm???
>>
>>163150236
Someone shoved a remote up their ass, and then someone else also shoved a remote up their ass and fought between each other until they lost
>>
>post pony garbage (ponified hero, actually dota related)
>get a fucking PERMA ban
>continuously avatarfag as anime character
>never even 3 day banned

dotards??
>>
rat status?
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>>163150318
read the rules newfriend
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>>163150331
on the way to your door
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><163150390
yes they clearly state that avatarfagging is not allowed either
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Is windrunner shit?
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>>163150318
how are ponies related to dota? I mean seriously how?
>>
>>163150552
She is totally fucking okay
>>
>>163149557
pms,phase,maybe roa,echo,maybe sb,deso,maybe bkb,linkens/basher/skadi/bf
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>>163150552
Not particularly.
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>>163150552
She still has a dog shit 42% win rate
>>
>>163150552
i wanna insert my tongue inside her tummy
>>
Do we hate adelaide?
>>
>>163129840
Wards, I know you've never seen them in your games before.
>>
has anybody else experienced really bad latency since the new patch. I played for the first time in a week and my ping hovers around 800.
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>>163150767
yes
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Opinion on the new techies?

I was hesitant at first, but having played some games with him now I'm pleasantly surprised at how fun he is, especially the new suicide ability.
>>
>>163150552
that's a male isn't it?
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>>163151005
new suicide is OP
>100 mana at level 1
>35 second CD at all levels
>denies yourself if you're sub-50% health
>Silence
>Jump
>Damage

>Old Suicide was 160 CD at level 1
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what did he mean by this?
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How is Doom in the new patch?
Is he viable yet or still in the void of forgotten heroes along with QoP, Lina, and Leshrac?
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>>163151407
wtf lmao
>>
>>163151554
+2% infernal blade damage!
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>>163149325
they can just chain stun you or kite you
is shallow grave a 100% save tool? no you die after it all the time

this would be worse than shallow grave because you ALWAYS survive with minimum 1 hp during grave, this would need you to lifesteal back any damage you took
>>
>>163151554
I use him as an aurawhore

soulring into hotd into other auras. you can replace soulring with drums or anything else
>>
>>163151554
just play pitlord
>>
Is LC dear I say too strong?
>>
Give me ideas to make money of dota youtube.
>>
>>163152095
become sunsfan
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leave Monkey King to me

>chasing me for jingu stacks?
I got boars to kite him
>chilling in the trees?
unleash hawk and chop the trees with my axe
>he got 4 sec stunned because he fell from a tree?
don't worry family I can extend that stun by shouting at him
>>
>>163152095
>make money of youtube

you're ten years too late
probably too late for twitch too
>>
>>163152236
Dota youtube is pretty untapped territory, I mean there are only very few big dota youtubers.
>>
>>163152170
Reminder that using a shit hero to counter a strong hero rarely works out.
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>>163152330
>implying enchant doesn't counter him well
>>
is singsing playing with bamboe
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BAHAHAHAHA!!!!

D EA D

FUCKING

G A M E

7.0 WAS A ***COMPLETE*** AND UTTER FAILURE

IT'S TIME TO ABANDON SHIP BOYS
>>
Ok, apparently I was wrong. WK's ult doesnt hit Slark during Shadow Dance. I also tested to see if Chilling Touch buffed them. It does not. Which was weird to me, since Mana boots, Mek, and Greaves affect them, but to no consequence.
>>
>>163152579
I just uninstalled. Not even kidding
>>
>>163152354
Ench is even worse than Beast.

For some of the strongest heroes the reason they're strong is because their counters are weak heroes.
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>>163152579
>7.00 increased DOTA 2's minimum spec requirements
>1/3 of the playerbase disappears
It's almost as if poor 3rd worlders play this game
Really makes your brain's neurons transmit electrical signals really fast.
>>
>>163152610
wRAITH king
>>
>>163152717
ench isn't that bad, but both her and bm are micro "intensive" so they inevitably have bad stats
>>
anyone else feel like shit
>>
why the fuck is no one casting ig vs wings? where is bts
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>>163152875
Not true, you just need to look at winrates in the 5k+ bracket

Meepo, Lycan, Visage and Arc Warden have high winrates, but Beast, Ench, Brood and to a lesser extent NP have sub 50% winrates.

Ench and Brood especially having an atrocious 42% and 41%.
>>
>>163152832
Vampiric Aura has no effect on them
>>
>>163152579
>2am
>early morning for Euro's

WHY ARE THERE NO PEOPLE ON

erik
>>
dota has gotten way too easy with 7.00.

the only way i have fun now is rushing midas and damage items on melee supports.
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>Undying suddenly feels great again

What happened dotards?
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>>163153106
It feels like since everyone gets gold and exp so fast, fighting is pretty inconsequential early game because either way, youre gonna get what you want. Then its just a matter of team vs team to see who fucks up or gets caught out. Feels pretty thoughtless desu
>>
>>163152170
>>163152354
>>163152717
You don't even need special ehreos to counter him

You just need vision and a bit of intelligence to not feed him 7 kills in lane so he snowballs for the rest of the game.

Make it so Jingu Mastery only lasts 20 seconds after activating and either remove the bonus damage from his ult or stop the soldiers from procing modifiers and he is balanced.
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uhm dotards? wtf happened?
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>cant play WW until memeking's jingu gets nerfed

Anyone else feel like the main reason WW does badly is because cold embrace is shit. Her ult is fine with a co-ordinated team but the fact you have to stun your own allies just to heal them is just too much of a penalty
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>lose game because of braindead legion spammer who rushed shadow blade and didnt get any damage items for the rest of the game
>queue again, determined to win a game tonight
>the same braindead legion picker is on my team
>try to dodge
>you can't dodge games without getting an abandon now

Fuck you, volvo.
>>
>>163153245
>implying wings delaying the TI curse only made it stronger and more inevitable
>>
>>163153245
>already TI winners
>giving a shit about some honeypot tournament
>>
>mfw hit level 25 as legion and get my FREE two rapiers by the end of the match
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>>163141000
>7.00 MoM
>bad
trips got wasted on this retarded post
>>
>>163153260
Build Eul's or Glimmer Cape. The heal is idiotically strong.
>>
>>163153094
Don't forget that it's a weekday. Some people here have jobs or lectures to attend
>>
>>163134004
Wex Quas is fine assuming someone rotate to help you, you get deafening blast and icewall earlier and the new CD on invoke is a bless. Main concern right now is mana pool. Can't handle all those spells without arcane boots, so get the damage talent.

He works as a pick now if mid and can even support (#4) if given bounty priority
>>
>>163149176
You end the game before 30 minutes because its a 4v5
>>
>play lycan
>finish game with 35k hero healing
>10/10 supporting on the score card
epic, simply epic
>>
>>163143758

Isn't him Grant?
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post em
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>>163153697
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>>163153697
>>
>>163153661
no

grant doesn't even have a good mic lmao
>>
>>163153149
>game became fast
>hero is good in fast games
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>>163153697
This is my bottom bitch right here.
Luna's getting picked more frequently; I hope she's not going to get nerfed soon.
>>
>>163153914

But CLQ uses a modified voice
>>
>tfw doturd is literally and unironically dying

i'm glad desu. without dota i'll have plenty of time to reconnect with my faith and do charity work. i even went to church for the first time in 7 years this morning
>>
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>>163153697
>>
>>163154113
yea but he has a really nice mic he also has streamed without his voice doesn't sound like grant
>>
>>163154184
>7.00 was an act of God to get this anon to go back to church so that his soul may be saved

G-guess I should get on with my life as well
>>
>>163154184
feels good
started playing in 6.81 and have well over 4000 hours of play time in 2,5 years
i hope i have more time to exercise from now on since this shit is unplayable
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I thought PA was it... but they've finally released a hero that literally any half brain-dead third world shitskin waste of life can get a rampage within 15 minutes into any pub game. Incredible.

When will the arcana sales start to decline?
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>>163153448
Doesnt the eul purge the heal though? also should I get shadow amulet as way to set up curse ambushes
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>>163153697
This game was hell.
>>
How often to buy wards? like 1-2 every x minutes?
>>
>>163154361
It only purges debuffs when used on allies, so even if Cold Embrace wasn't undispellable, it wouldn't.
>>
Seriously if you're a good storm or tinker player you should just play them when you see an enemy monkey king. I've yet to lose a game against that nigger with those two

If not then tough fucking luck you shitter
>>
>10 game winning streak
>Party with friends
>We get crushed

just kill me
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>>163149597
Is this you adelaide?
>>
>>163153245
it wasn't even played, wings forfeited all their matches. probably focusing on ESL in january or having internal issues as the curse takes hold
>>
>>163154819
that explains it, thank you.

>saving strats
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rofl doturds
just rofl
>>
https://www.twitch.
tv/dota2vods247

game 1 TI3 Finals
>>
>>163144030
Why would you do this if you can just pick treant and do the same without having to play a (wet paper) goldbag the rest of the game.
>>
>Alive game generals constantly have dedposting
>Dead game generals constantly have aliveposting
It's almost as if shitposters are everywhere!
>>
>>163154285
This fucking retard on the enemy team picks MK and his two friends from his stack start complaining about how broken PA is. Like, that was one of the few times I was just disappointed and sad at the human race, and thought to myself that some people just don't deserve to live.
Like, you pick a broken hero that's super easy to just take over the game with, and the second it doesn't go your way you complain? Holy shit, don't take up any more of my air and water, just dive headfirst into a volcano.
>>
>>163154285
>When will the arcana sales start to decline?
probably after a month or more
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>>163153697

I still remember, this game, i had to farm, push and kill faster than 3 of my allies could intentional feed and won
>>
>>163153697
16k with manta CW. Imperial had a really good thing going, I'm certain they could've at least reached a major if they kept the strat under wraps, but they blew it all on some shitty qualifier for a honeypot lan. Not even the real thing, but the qualifier which paid 20x less.
>>
>>163153697
Where do you find these?
>>
Skins more in line with LoL, edgy and "cool".
Disable duration indicator visible in game to be more in line with LoL.
Blink dagger mana removed to be more in line with LoL.
UI changed to be more in line with LoL
So many runes and shrines on the map you can spam all day and never be out of mana, to be more in line with LoL.
Newest hero follows the generic LoL template for new heroes; disable, gap closer, steroid, big AoE damage. flavour passive.
Faster levels to be more in line with LoL.
Skilltrees ripped straight from HotS.
Jungle offers more but less often and is easier to invade, encourages early teamfighting for that territory instead of using it as an area for farm. Instead of enemy having to punish greedy junglers, greedy junglers are no longer possible and need to now go be active and gank or risk falling behind, all to be more in line with LoL.
Scoreboard more in line with LoL.

None of this is even touching upon what a buggy mess of a game this still is over 7 years down the line. All this "LoLification" to compete for the Chinese/GenX market. Disgusting.
>>
>haven't played or even looked at dota in 7 months
>look at sings stream

what the fuck happened
>>
will ixmike and OUR GUY BSJ save NA dota?
>>
>new patch
>start playing unranked
>playing with people who have literally played 50 games of dota 2 in spite of playing with 3.5k average players prior

what is going on?
>>
>>163155656
dotabuff player records
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>>163154731
I wear stuff like this while playing dota :3
>>
>>163134484
Source?
>>
>be me
>be puck
>busting my ass trying to control the game
>we're winning but our "carry" keeps dying and pinging and bitching on the mic
>it's tilting me
>i tell him if he pings me one more time i'm selling my items and going afk
>"you're not gonna do shit, pussy"
>i sell my items and go afk
>we lose
>mfw he would've cracked 6k if we won
>instead how he has to play two more 5k games and probably low prio since i reported him

feels good man. talk shit to me? fuck you.
>>
>>163156353
>Look guys! I let a retard get to me! Aren't I clever for being equally retarded?
>>
>>163156029
You think that's bad. I queued at 2am and one match had each team has one player with a silver icon badge along with 4 lower skill randoms with 50, 100, 200 games. My mid was 5.7k. I was on a new account to see if the framerate was really bad (it was), game fell apart when people just started leaving.
Next game I queued for had 5 randoms vs a 5 stack. What the fuck.
>>
>>163156353
you have issues
>>
>>163155848
Stay away, this from someone who hasn't been near dota in 9 months and decided to come back for patch 7.00.

Don't bother, valve is continuing down the slippery slope of casual gaming, you know, the one everybody likes to yell "SLLIPPERY SLOPE FALLACY!="!" at when it gets mentioned, but the game continues to slip down that very slope every patch nonetheless.

The balancing is reaching Izzy from Guild Wars levels of retarded.

Worst of all is that nothing is going to change for the better because valve's source for change is A) The largest target market (i.e. the people who also play LoL) and B) The very vocal "in the spotlight" minority community of reddit filled with valvedrones who would suck dick before admitting to any possible faults in their beloved holy game(devs). Because you don't think they care what the people here think, or the CIS community etc.

No, the MO for the longest time has been "appease reddit. try to draw in the asian market (like LoL)"
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>>163156353
>thinks a single report gets anywhere
>is a tilted fuck and ruins games

off yourself my man, you are the cancer killing dota
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>>163156172
What role do you usually play?
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>>163156496
I haven't played in over a year and I too looked at sing's stream a few times lately and despite reinstalling, I haven't had the urge to play again. I only wanted to Techies again.
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>>163156353
>not chain feeding couriers or performing genuinely team crippling griefing

amateur
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>>163156353
>>163156353
>>"you're not gonna do shit, pussy"
Telling me what I will or will not do is the quickest way for me to find the most ingenious way to troll you the rest of the game.
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>all my friends who play League decided to try Dota now that they changed the HUD

Well I guess it worked, Valve got what they wanted
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>bts starting +4 minutes
>missed 2 (two) series
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HOW DO I GET OVER MY RANKED ANXIETY
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>valve doesn't even release patch notes anymore because they know their reddit drone cucks will datamine and do all the writeup work for them

incredible.
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>>163156540
Support!

A few of my faves are SS, Jakiro and Veno
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>>163156675
>not CM
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>>163156496
nah the games actually fine. sorry but the fact that you havent played in so long only devalues your opinion on the new patch
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>>163126268
Same as always. Tangos stout sentries, rush scepter. Get boots if you have freefarm, skip them if you don't. Spend rest of game enjoying infinite gold as you kill every creepwave and camp simultaneously.
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>>163156673
There was a thread saying that the guy who looks at all the changes and posts the log should be paid.
No you fucking retard, he's literally working for free. And they're all laughing to the bank
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Do you build Dragon Lance on Troll?
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>underlord first pick

reminder that atrophy aura is op
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>>163156786
He does it.... for... free?
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>>163156845
memelance is shit this patch
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>>163156753
I've played her a bit more recently as she's gotten better. Good for getting first blood depending on your lane partner.

Your pic related, its me
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performance patch fucking when
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>>163156960
after christmas

i mean newyears

i mean after chinese newyears

valve needs vacation time too
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>>163156960
it's just a beta lot's going on behind the scenes don't be so entitled it's a free game :^)
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why does aids monkey get a faster and stronger fissure?
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>Death is my BITCH

what did he mean by this
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>support ck
>offlane underlord

yes pls
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>>163157091
Because it's on a 30 second cd
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>>163156562
A trash hero now, he used to be my favourite and most played.

Instead of getting kills with cheeky mining you now have been given mines whos sole purpose is to farm waves with so you can get aghs and then start placing remotes. Not only does this go against the cheeky cunt nature of the hero, like placing mine stacks behind their T2 when all towers are still up to catch some jungler, but it is also completely impossible. You have to stand in the creepwave to place the mine to farm it, since you have no suicide anymore you will then feed a death. If somehow you do survive you just pushed the lane so hard you will not be able to get the next wave unless you want to go stand under their T1 to do so. You can also not place a stack on a prehorn junglecamp anymore to get a quick level 2 for a level advantage in lane. Stasis traps are now garbage, assuming you do the normal thing and max landmines first, by the time you max stasis mines the enemy will have itemized against it. The talenttree is a joke and the only time something is a choice is between 120gpm and -60 respawn, depending on if you want to be splitpushing with basically a 0 deathtimer or need more items.

So you can't really farm a lane to get and aghs, and you can't get kills with landmines to farm the aghs, and you really do need the aghs since after 25 minutes you need at least lvl2 remotes with aghs to be relevant, so the only thing you really have left is to roam around and try to gank and get kills with your new blast off skill while farming jungle camps and empty lanes with landmines in the downtime.

The only plus to any of his changes, is that if you do manage to get slotted and reach the endgame with a decent team that has some good disables, the new talents allow you to actually participate in teamwights. Aether lens + the bonus range talent + octa + the bonus CDR talent allow you to shit out remotes from an incredible range (even stasis get a huge placement range).
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>>163155824

if the game is going to turn to shit, we at least need custom skins
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>>163157568
"Techies was a mistake" - Icefrog
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>>163156765
hi plebbit.
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man this new pit of malice is much op than the old one
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>>163157568
You're stupid.

You're supposed to gank the enemy with your 600 dmg nuke/7 second aoe silence, not idle farm waves.
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>>163157568
You're garbage at the game
Techies is fucking godlike now
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>>163157091
You forgot to mention the part where it also gets late game scaling and is a free full heal when Jingu Mastery is activated
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>>163157568
STOP PLAYING THE HERO THE SAME FUCKING WAY

all you need to do is place landmines all over the place and status with a couple of them and follow your team when they're fighting. I dont even level remotes anymore
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>>163157636
hi whiny baby. look at reddit right now and they are complaining just as much as you are. the gameplay changes this patch are great.
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I spent years of my life playing dota and I hate 7.00 more than any patch in history. What do I do with my life now.
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Reminder Techies new Suicide is 10x better than his previous version.

>35 second CD
>up at all times
>still same mana, 100 at level 1
>reliable damage
>fucking AoE silence and initiation or to run away

>>>denies at sub-50% health

Pretty much guaranteed to deny yourself if you're not stunned or silenced with a HUGE parting silence effect for your team.
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THE MADMAN
WHAT THE FUCK WAS HE THINKING
WHAT IN GODS NAME HAS HE DONE???
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>>163158350
its pretty much MORE damage anyway

>500/650/850/1150 (260/300/340/380 partial).
>dealt physical damage, so usually reduced by 50-60%
>if you missed by even an inch, you shaved off about 170 hp
>meanwhile new suicide deals 600 magic damage + 7 seconds silence to its FULL aoe
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>>163158286
adapt to change or quit? does the baby need me to feed him his bottle too?
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>26 minute chink GG

yeah i'm done with this game
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https://webmshare.com/play/EgXaw
dotards?
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>>163158353
>have enemy WR
>expect that any team WITH WR on it will win
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>Monkey King still isn't nerfed.
>HUD still isn't fixed.
Are Valve taking the piss.
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>>163157713
>You're supposed to gank the enemy with your 600 dmg nuke/7 second aoe silence, not idle farm waves.

I said exactly that, so no, you are the actual stupid one here.

First of that isn't techies anymore. Secondly unless you silence everyone that is present, you are now dead. Thirdly if you want a hero for "long disable and big damage" you pick something like lion who offers far more, much more reliably and without having to put himself in the middle of the enemy position with lamo 400hp. Lastly you have two skills that the enemy can manta bkb etc. out of, your stasis and your silence. So again, after 25 minutes you are going to be relying on aghs remotes.
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>>163158507
>christmas week
>working

nobody that makes over 50k does this
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>>163157568
watch the turk guy sing plays w/ for tips instead of blog posting ur bad opinions
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>>163158161
>STOP PLAYING THE HERO THE SAME FUCKING WAY

I don't, I literally say so in my post, but the "new way" is garbage both in the sense that it isn't the fun techies cunt playstyle anymore, and also in the sense that it is just bad and easily countered/ignored.
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why does the caphcha always say CALLE
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>>163125884
Grinding solo is just all about learning how to play a good position 3.

Get your farm but also make sure to buy wards and detection. Always have a tp (no excuse now with backpack) and fight with your retarded team.
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This son of a bitch strolls up to you like he owns your god damned lane and slaps your carry on the ass with a purge
What do you do?
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>>163158431
Suicide's prime purpose was exactly that, to suicide, you are a hero that gets unusually long streaks and amount of kills considering how squishy you are, so suicide was there to prevent you from feeding away over 1k gold every time anyone gave you a funny look. That you could use it to get kills in the right situation was just a bonus.

Now it is a high risk high reward skill that is techies' sole way of having any sort of impact on the game preaghs. It is also in no way whatsoever a good way to deny yourself anymore, the old suicide was already tricky to pull of when you got jumped on, and it often was a case of spamming it while praying to god the disables would get stacked imperfectly so you got the chance to deny yourself, goodluck with that now.
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>>163159002
lets not forget the part where techies hits level 20 and with his bloodstone he has about 5 deaths in a row with 1 respawn timer and then after that its like 5-10 seconds once he's down to 1-2 charges
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>>163125884
agreed. thats why i quit trying to grind mmr and just casually play unranked. reminder theres literally no reason to care about your mmr unless you're a complete loser or trying to become a pro. which one are you?
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>>163129153
How?

My friend and I tried to get our party mmr to 1 by feeding rapiers and there were games we could not lose. In one of them there were two rapiers on the ground and their team refused to buy them.

Seriously, that low you can just snowball any lane and win.
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>>163158562
You got that in reverse buddy, anyone who earns big money doesn't give a shit about "christmas week".
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>>163158581
It isn't an opinion, it is fact, if you aren't playing a roaming blast off techies now, you are doing it wrong and should maybe even neck yourself.
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lumi is so stupid he doesn't know what a parrot is?
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>>163158990
Devour him and slap the enemy carry on the ass with a purge
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>>163159189
>>163159189
>>163159189
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>Icefrog has been working to make Agh's upgrades actually unique rather than just simple damage boosts/cooldown decreases for several patches
>in 7.00 he removes what makes Necrophos' Agh's upgrade unique and changes it into a simple cooldown reduction

Hey.... Dotards?
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>>163159279
autistic anime watching children are literally so sheltered and retarded they barely qualify as sentient life forms.
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>>163158990
ignore until it is a chen harpie at lvl 1, lightning spamming my carry, at which point I panic and/or leave the game because I cba to deal with that shit.
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>>163159304
being dead for a long time and not being able to buyback is antifun and toxic, adhd children cant sit still for 2 minutes.
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>>163159002
>suicide
>tricky to pull off

not really. All you had to do was press e and then die in an instant. Very easy to pull off, with the only difficulties being mana and silence/hex (or Omni repeling you, which he cant do anymore as an enemy)

I really like the changes. It forces you to take more damage to properly deny yourself, but it also gives you an option to jump over cliffs to escape if you have enough HP. Also, the shorter cooldown makes it viable more often, and the silence makes it a pretty good teamfight initiator (or to save someones ass when an enemy is chasing them)

I like that it has more function now
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>>163159087
Which is why I guess they added the -60 timer to the talent tree, but you would be giving up on a potential 120gpm. I personally prefer the -60, if I don't have my items by the time I hit 20 then it is usually a downhill battle anyway and the bonus 120gpm isn't going to help a lot to remedy that. Also -60 allows you to be on the map all the time, TP boots and you can push a lane 24/7, whether they manage to kill you or not.
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>>163159483
>not really. All you had to do was press e and then die in an instant.
maybe in trench brackets, in regular brackets techies gets disabled because people are well aware that trying to kill him otherwise is a pointless endevour.
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>>163159483
>techies jumps in
>hit him once and he dies
great initiation
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Fresh bread
New thread
>>163159189
>>163159189
>>163159189
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>>163159483
>Very easy to pull off
Maybe when you're playing at 2k where they don't buy wards and have no ability to chain stun, but that's not the case above 5k shitter, people know how to kill a techies before he can suicide, they know to build a scythe/orchid and not rush aghs on every support like your trench ass.
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>>163159715
>techies jumps in with less than half health
>dies instantly
>whole enemy team is silenced

dotard
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>>163159814
If the whole enemy team clumps up like that I would rather have a blackhole initiation than lose a teammember to silence enemies. Also great way to fall behind massively and get no farm since you won't be around for any of the exp/gold even if your team does follow up and gets a bunch of kills. If this is how you play techies you better net an advantage so large in the first 20 minutes you can finish then and there or at least an advantage so large your team can win 4v5 as you will be a deadweight.
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>>163158353
>WR
>QoP
>PL
>Clock
holy fuck how do you fuck up a draft that bad, Io is literally the only good hero in there.
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>my playstyle is farming and carrying 4 retards
>new patch fucks up the jungle
>neutrals spawn as slow as turtle
>definitely fucked up my playstyle
>from 4k6 to 3k6

???
im gonna play my favorite mmorpg instead, have fun with your patch

see next patch dotards
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>>163159171
What MMR was that?
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>>163126565
>this toxic masculinity in dota

What?
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>>163133492
Aether was GOOD TIER when the "recipe" was a 550 cloak.
Now its just good if you need the extra cast range.
And its still worse than building Glimmer Cape or Sange.

>>163134517
I can justify it, because its a cheap upgrade of one of the best items in the game.
It also leverages to be worth its price, unless the enemy team is 100% physical/pure burst damage.
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>>163165868
We got down to like 500-700 and the only way we could lose was by explicitly feeding. Before we'd go prophet brood and feed treants and spiders while farming rapiers.

Some games we'd push straight to their ancient uncontested.
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>>163153697
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So, I had 2.9k and now I dropped to 2.4k
how can I get to 3k+?
Should I spam Drow/Sven/MK/Sniper?
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