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What depth of lore are we dealing with here edition

Abandoned Dream: >>162945171

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
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where the fights at
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PURGE FILTH
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>>163064147
Isz mane
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man ludwig is kicking my ass with this new character

I'm using an underpowered saw spear and I have to be basically flawless just to get past his beast form. I can do about 1300 damage to him when I stun him and use up my whole stamina bar doing transition attacks to his sides. The stomping combo is what usually kills me.

I still have fun even losing like this - especially since the walk from the lantern is so short - but I wish I didn't run out of potions. I should probably just grind in the regular game and come back later, but I need some of the weapons from the DLC
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>>163064310
I've found that ludwig is really hard, unless you use beast blood and paper.

If you want a more satisfying challenge, do it without, but if you're mad enough to want to crack him wide use the buffs.
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>>163064310
Just grind vials/bullets/echoes from the two Executioners before Ludwig, they can be chain backstabbed to death. There's the little bloody guy who always drops 5 Vials too. Runes that give bullets and extra echoes from viscerals are useful.
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>>163064207
how interested are people in a fightclub stream from a drunk blasting vaporwave
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When and where is the absolute earliest that I could get a blood gem or weapon that uses arcane?
I was thinking about making a pure arc build, but I don't want to flounder through most of the game because I can't deal damage.
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>>163064207
ain't got a fight yet, is 120 too high?
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So out of pure autism because I have fucked up my ability to focus on one character I deleted every single one of them.

So now i'm making a new guy and refusing to make another.

What build should I do?
I'm thinking of
Kirkhammer/Beast cutter strength build.
Cleaver/Saif Skill build
Bloodletter / ??? blt str build.
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>>163064857
after beating the blood starved beast in old yharnam you can get a waning fire gem
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>>163064857
Grab the Saw Spear, use BB Pellets and Fire Paper all the way up to BSB. After that, get the Fire Waning gem near the Brainsucker below the workshop and 2 Hotdog fire Radials after running Pthumeru twice. It'll get you through the game easily as long as you pump Vit and Arc along the way. There's a guide in the OP.
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>>163064965
strength think of the gains senpai
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>>163064965
50/50 Str/Skl to use almost everything. Or Str/Blt for Bloodletter, Chikage, and Bowblade.
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Is there anywhere that has all the exact slider information that NPCs have?
Or are all the NPCs "custom made"?
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>>163064582
>There's the little bloody guy who always drops 5 Vials too.

wait you mean the poor dude banging on the gate? I didn't know that. That's extremely helpful, considering I usually die to Ludwig after using about 5 potions and bringing him down to like 52% health

The executioner thing wouldn't really work for me; it takes me like 3 backstab+visceral+jump-attack combos to kill just one of them, and the first one I can kill has the cannon and just gives me quicksilver bullets anyway. For health potions, I just go to the lecture hall and kill all the slime students as they crowd the doorframe, then I blow all the echoes on more vials

>>163064461
I want to beat him fair and square. I feel like I know all his moves and how to counter them for his beast form, but I'm not too sure on the moves for the sword form. I have to completely school his beast form just to even make it to his second form. Lowest I've gotten him is like 10% health
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Last three or four FCs have lasted 6 or more hours. Really good fights, glad we have some new lads showing up consistently now.
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What is a good weapon to compliment the saw spear? It needs to be big and have physical damage.
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REMEMBER TO SIGN THE OFFICIAL PETITION
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>>163065513
Depends on your build. If it's Skill and you have at least 16 Str, Ludwig Blade. Church Pick and Burial Blade work too.
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>>163065595
Falseflagging should be a bannable offense. Here's your pity (You).
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>>163065479
2nd Executioner drops around 8+ Vials and each kill gives a good amount of echoes. Clawmark Runes to add a bit more damage to viscerals. The 2nd won't notice you if you don't visceral the Cannon one too close. I find them to be preferable over the students.
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>>163065479
I found second form easier than first but now I get too distracted by how dope his theme is.
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>>163064859
It's just very late
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>>163065739
25/25 str/skl for NG, no tinge or arcane.

Used Ludwig's Blade on a different character, same with burial blade.
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>>163065479
>but I'm not too sure on the moves for the sword form
All you really need to know about his second phase is to stay close to him; dodge to 11 o' clock and 1 o' clock and try to stay either at his side or at his back.

He has one really gnarly attack that cuts from his 7 to 11 o' clock and passes right by his side that's incredibly hard to see coming. Besides that, he's quite consistent.
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>>163066626
Are you staying at 25/25 or gonna aim for 50 in one/both? If you're going 50 Str/both, any Str weapon. If 50 Skill, Church Pick.
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>>163066613
Should I head to isz next week for da fights?
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>>163065513
>>163066626
hunter axe is pretty good with saw spear.
it is long range, stuns enemies, and is and super versatile. Jump attack is great, and charged r2 is one of the best
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Bored and drunk. Looking to do coop
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>>163066881
SRRC or wait for someone here to ask for help.
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>>163066801
Depends on the what people shill in the thread before hand
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>>163066095

>Actually wasting time learning Ching Chong PING PONG

No thanks
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>>163067597
You don't have to speak Japanese to recognize a gem.
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how far do you guys usually get into the DLC before you kill Rom? I've hit a road block, so I think I'm just going to do the regular story and come back to the DLC after I've leveled a little more. But my primary weapons I want to use for the main game are only available once you reach the lamp before Orphan

I dont want to cheese or summon against the DLC bosses, though. This is a predicament
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>>163068140
If you've already beat the game once without summons, what's the issue summoning a second time around?
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>>163068140
>how far do you guys usually get into the DLC before you kill Rom?
No farther than Research Hall unless I'm making a concerted effort to get something in the DLC before I play the rest of the game.
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>>163068140
I usually kill Orphan before Shadows. It helps doing dungeons and getting decent gems to carry you. Once you kill Maria you have access to 22.3% Physical droplets which are enough for Orphan and the rest of the game.
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>>163067597
>people this retarded actually exist
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>>163067597
This
I learned French so I could talk to dirty Quebecois trash on rare occasion in my country.
Why would I be a retard and learn a language that is common within a hobby of mine?
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>>163068515
That can't feel balanced. The rest of the game would be a total cakewalk after beating the DLC
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>>163068515
If you get 22.3% gems before shadows, you just trivialized the fuck out of the entire game.
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>TFW you suck at Bloodborne but you defeat what you were told is a decently difficult boss on THE, FIRST, GO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbaaI5xf4y8

I feel like a god right now.
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>>163068515
>Kill Orphan before Shadows

HUH? I mean it's pretty easy to speedrun to kill Shadows but how in the fuck did you manage to speedrush and kill Orphan of Kos before then?

Even with a +6 weapon and Beast Pellets + Buff AND 30 VIT at least

pretty ballsy to take on Bosses from DLC
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>>163068828
>>163068903
I'm aware, I don't really care about having an easy time after Amelia to be honest. The DLC is the toughest part of the game already, so anything else besides FRC dungeons would be a cakewalk regardless of the gems.
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>>163068919
What boss?

Maybe the boss is easy and you only heard shitters calling it hard, meaning the fact that you beat it means nothing.
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>>163069137
+9 Saw Spear with decent early gems and BB Pellets+Papers. Done it with BL4, so it's not that hard when I'm using a leveled character.
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I'm going to do a bloodtinge build and I'm wondering at what level should I go for the bloodletter? I want to get the bloodletter as soon as possible
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>>163069279
Every boss is hard for me, don't ruin my moment. Just make an assumption and you'd probably be right.
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>>163069435
Depends on how well you can manage the DLC, 65+ is a common recommended range. At least 30 Vit and a +9 weapon should be fine.
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As mediocre as most of DaS3's content is, Archdragon Peak really stands out being probably the strongest area. It's as well designed and polished as a Bloodborne area and I really like the enemies here. Unlike most of the enemies that resort to that shitty autistic flailing about, the snekmen here are well designed, look cool, and are genuinely a fair challenge to fight. Other than the occasional bullshit that the Chain Snekman can pull with the ghost chain-axe, they are my favorite group of enemies in DS3.
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>>163069672
I like the Peak, but I feel like the dual dagger dragon mobs do just a bit too much damage. Otherwise I tend to agree.

I think the area where Miyazaki's influence shows the most, and is therefore one of the better, is the Archives.
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>>163069672
Man I forgot how shitty DS interface looks after all my time with BB.
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>>163070831
>Go back to DaS3 just to finally finish that ring trophy and get plat
>fucking interface fills up half the screen
There isn't a single aspect of the game that doesn't feel awkward and clunky after BB.
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>>163071497
I'll tell you hwat, after playing BB, DaS3 feels very easy.
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>>163070831
>>163071497
>all the UI mods on PC are either shitty minimalist crap or DaS1 and DeS UI
>nothing to make it smaller or less hideous
Does the nightmare never end?
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>>163071626
DaS is easy. With the exception of maybe two bosses it was far and away the easy Souls game I'd played. Not one took me more than 3 tries, and most only took the first.
Nameless King, Spin Doctors, and LoC, though...
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>>163071792
I'll give you nameless king but Lord Of Cinder?
meh

What are Spin Doctors?
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>>163072087
>What are Spin Doctors?
Twin Princes
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsdy_rct6uo
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>>163071792
Fuck, I meant DaS3 is easy.
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>>163072318
What build do you use because I don't think I've ever had a problem with them.
tbqh, none of the bosses are particularly hard, even nameless king isn't too bad
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>>163072484
They are actually more annoying if you try to fight them with spells only.
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>>163072484
I think a lot of it was that the rest of DaS3 being easy as fuck lulled me into a state of complacency that those bosses just woke me up from. I was using HMLS (we're talking day 1 so before it buffed, of course) and I think I was level 70 when I got to Princes. They pushed my shit in for literally 5 hours before I finally overcame them.

After that, Nameless having two health bars as well just pissed me off, and LoC doing it again almost made me quit the game.

LoC isn't too difficult anymore, and Princes have become pretty easy, but I don't mind to say that I have never solo'd Nameless, and do care to ever try.
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>>163072658
>so before it buffed
got buffed*

>and do care to ever try.
Don't* care. Definitely don't care.

I need more coffee.
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>>163072658
to be fair, I first beat NK with a fire infused dark sword and rolling so that was basically easy mode.
Right now, i'm using the Lothric Knight Set with Greatshield, both of which have terrible lightning resist, and a claymore. That means fat rolling my man. 2nd phase is basically a hard counter for me because even with a block, I take a lot of damage and I dont have the stamina to take his consecutive blows either.
I've stopped for the night because work in the morning but I'm probably gonna have to resort to lighter gear so i can just roll again.
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Is FC still happening? If so, glyph??
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So whats the best boom hammer build? I want a strength build and want to use the hammer, but what are the best stats??
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>>163064857
Do you mean Arcane scaling on a weapon (EG fire/bolt/arcane) or actual specifically arcane conversion?

The first is easy, right after BSB is chalice dungeons which have easy to obtain fire radials, and church workshop for a guaranteed fire Waning. You can also reach Himtertomb for fire triangles if you need. This convert a weapon's physical damage to fire and switch it's STR/SKL scaling to ARC.

The second option is much harder. There's an Arcane triangle in the woods, and the Ayy's drop them as well. Or the Brainsucker boss on layer 1 of Lower Hintertomb drops a flat arc gem. You could probably farm mob-Brainsuckers in Lower Pthumeru root dungeons for radial flat-arcane gems. Or get a super-rare Arcane % drop in Pthumeru from a Watcher or Knight (don't count on this, it's rarer than an offshape).
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>>163074206
50/25 Str/Skl. 1 Heavy Abyssal and 2 27.2% Phys gems, or full 32.6% Blunt gems to get the most out of it. Could also work on a 25/50 Str/Arc build with Nourishings.
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>>163066095
Is that a Cold Abyysal? Or a Heavy?

If it's a Cold it's not that impressive, +15 of Fire/Bolt/Arcane isn't too ridiculously rare.

If it's a Heavy though it's a pretty cool perfect offshape, but ultimately useless since nothing you pair with Heavy Abyysals (tempering, or adept) can only be found in Pthumeru, so you arnt really freeing up a spot, like say a 27% Arcane radial would.
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>>163068903
> he doesn't have a +10 Burial Blade with 24% gems before Shadows

You havnt played the game properly buddy.
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>>163074560
It's red so it's most likely a Heavy. Useful if you don't feel like farming Isz Watchers for a 27.2% Phys Triangle (or 32.6% Adept). Not that amazing either way.
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>>163074734
The most impressive gems I've seen are the 32.6% Bloodtinge Triangle dropped by Isz Watchers (notice how I said "the", since I think only one has ever been recorded). Followed by 23.6% Nourishing gems Watchers drop every once in a while (estimated 1/10000).

My personal weirdest drop was a Lower Pthumeru Chalice Knight dropping an Arcane gem.
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>>163074560
重い = Heavy
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>>163074920
Yeah I've seen the vid of the 32.6% Blt Triangle. I found this screenshot before the video so it ain't the only one ever found, ironically both builds had low Blt iirc. Farming for 27.2% Triangles on my new character, only managed to get one after getting a +21 Dirty, a 32.6% Kin, 31.5% Beast, a 31.5% Thrust, and a 32.6% Thrust with decent curses. Not all too rare but it's funny that I haven't gotten another 27.2% after getting those yet.
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>>163067597
You have to read the numbers not the text you dum
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First time playing BloodBorne.
Hoarding Madman Knowledge like a madman due to past experience with humanity and embers. Is there any reason to hoard Madman Knowledge? Or do I just use them? I have like 23 and currently @ 21 insight having just beat shadow of Yharnam
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>>163075993
Use them when you need them.
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>>163075993
Don't pop em, cap is 99 and you'll rack up a good amount from bosses and areas alone. Once you kill the last required boss you'll be able to buy Rocks for 60 Insight to +10 weapons.
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>>163076250
That is the problem. When do I need them? What is insight for? I never noticed a need for them unless i want to buy shit from the insight messanger
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>>163076306
Insight is consumed when you want to summon other players in your world for co-op.
It's also useful for buying stuff from the messengers, mainly blood stones and ritual materials.
Insight also reveals certain secrets in Yharnam early in the game, but even without insight you won't miss them.
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>>163076405
>No PS plus
So Co-op is pointless plus who co-ops in a souls game.

So mostly buying stuff and secrets I guess. First blind run so I think I will miss those secrets till my second run.

Is there any penalty in stacking insight vs keeping them as madman knowledge?
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>>163076526
Yes, insight greatly reduces your Frenzy resistance.
It will make certain areas a lot harder.
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>>163076553
So keep them till I have to pop them. Alright. I will keep that in mind. Great game so far but the bosses have been a little easy. Only boss that took me over 5 tries was Matyr and DarkBeast
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>>163076635
Have you tried the DLC? Aside from Chalice Dungeons that's where the hardest bosses are
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>>163076703
I just beat the shadow of Yharnam @ forbidden woods. That is where I am currently. Looking forward to the DLC bosses them. I heard a lot about Father G and BSB being hard but I beat them first try. I actually died 1 time to Vicar.
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So im thinking of making a ARC/something build (It's a friends character, and she said she wanted to have skill with ARC) But am i wasting points in skill if the weapon is going to have Elemental gems in it? (I made a build what i think looks good but i dunno if it's good or not, please tell me if i've wasted points into something)
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>>163077034
I'd lower Skill to 25 and End to 15 and put those 10 points into Arc instead desu.
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Trick weapons were a mistake.
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>>163077497
Alright, thanks
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>>163077726
Actually the opposite of what you said is true.
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>>163077896
>16 weapons
>9 are only available before late game
>a lot of them are very similar
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>>163078146
>26 weapons
>90% of them are available after Amelia
>only a couple of them are similar to other weapons
>each weapon has two distinct movesets
>they're all viable, none of them is directly outclassed
Sounds good to me.
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>>163078692
>kirkhammer and ludwig's are half the same
>threaded cane and beastcutter are almost the same
>saw spear, beasthunter saif, and saw cleaver are mostly the same
>meme weapons like parasite, whirligig, stake driver, and wheel are mostly useless
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>>163078962
>whirligig and wheel
>useless

ummm
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>>163078962
>threaded cane and beastcutter are almost the same
Not even remotely close.
>saw spear, beasthunter saif, and saw cleaver are mostly the same
Saif looks like the other two but its moveset is entirely different.
>meme weapons like parasite, whirligig, stake driver, and wheel are mostly useless
Whirligig is the most broken weapon in the game, Wheel is amazing, Parasite and Stake Driver are fine.
Am I eating bait? Are you genuinely dumb? Your next post will probably settle this.
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>>163078692
>>each weapon has two distinct movesets
Boom Hammer, Tonitrus, etc

>>163078962
You forgot one Bro. Moonlight sword is the same as the holy blade too.
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>>163079886
>Boom Hammer
The swings in the tricked form are different.
>Tonitrus
Only weapon with a single moveset.
>etc
No such thing.
>Moonlight sword is the same as the holy blade too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7uZa0ZKkec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6HRxN468vU
Watch these and feel silly.
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>3 months since i sold bloodborne
i think im gonna buy it again
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if i go to NG+ i don't have to do more CDs than pthumeru 1-3, ailing loran and defiled before great pthumeru, right?
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>>163079998
Caught you!
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I just beat Forbidden Forest. Do I go to nightmare Frontier now?
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>>163081879
Yes.
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>>163082059
What the fuck?! How the fuck do I kill those brain thingy without taking massive damage
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>>163082408
You don't Just kill them quick, then pop two healing vials.
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>>163082589
Reeeeee.
>These brain things
>Poison swamps
>Shit throwing rocks at you
I think I found the worst area in Bloodborne aka Blighttown
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>>163082652
Yeah, it is the worst, if you don't count the chalices.
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>>163082408
Parry
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>>163082701
I haven't done any Chalices. Do explain chalice mechanics to me. I think I got one from beating DarkBeast? I am not sure
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>>163082408
Bait their grab
Parry them
Visceral so you don't take damage when the frenzy bar fills up.

or

Runes and sedatives, low insight optional.
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>>163082776
The main chalices are basically part of the story and aren't too bad. But playing through them, you unlock root chalices. Root chalices let you make random dungeons that can be total hell.
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>>163082952
I kill them fast enough. It is the frenzy build up that is dumb
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>>163082776
Don't do any root chalices yet, it'll be a waste of materials. Even better, don't do chalices unless you want to PvP or get trophies. There's a guide in the OP, read it and ask for more specific questions, there's way too much stuff to explain.
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>>163083068
They bar is already full, it just takes awhile. If you time your parry iframes with the bar hitting the top, you can cheese your way through the activation and take zero damage.

>>163083126
Do them before talking to Gerhman after fighting the Wet Lawnmower.
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>>163083068
While doing a visceral you don't take damage. If you parry them at the right time the bar will fill up but you'll be fine.
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Do you guys ever restart a character because you don't like something about the way it looks? I'm already at rom and I can't help but notice one detail I neglected in the character creator process that I've only recently started to notice.
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>>163084045
Oh yeah. I completely remade my last character after getting all the way to BL70 because I decided I wanted a different hairstyle (I just can't stand my waifus not having a ponytail). Fun times.
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>>163084045
I reset my character three times right before Gas Can every single playthrough since my second one. I didn't think I could be this autistic.
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>>163084360
I can't help but have that thought in the back of my head about that one detail isn't right and how much I want to change it. Why couldn't they do something like they did with DS3?
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>>163084938
>>163084045
I have never deleted and restarted a character ever. Your first characters imperfections are what make them so perfect for me. My first guy is always my favorite because he's the most natural, I usually end up having a plan for my next ones but my first one is just so dynamic.
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What is the cosmos in BB and why is Ebritas the daughter of it? Is it really the same generic term we use for the cosmos in reality or is it a Key Word?
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>>163085161
It's the Cosmos of course!
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>>163085379
The sky and the cosmos are one.
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>>163085161
The cosmos and the sky are one... Just above our heads...
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Is there a large difference in storage space between the base game and the DLC? I'm getting a 500gb PS4 soon and while I'll probably end up replacing the HDD manually later for the time being it might be better to get a BB disk that has more content on it. So I'm thinking it might be better to get a GOTY edition instead of the standard (which I already have).
Please tell me if I'm wrong or crazy. Thanks.
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>>163085950
[x]crazy
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>>163086091
Try the other tab, my /hsg/ friend.
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>>163086175
Yeah my bad.
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>>163086979
A beautiful battle
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anybody looking for some co-op or want to help me kill the amygdala in defiled chalice?
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ded thread
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>>163068515
>>163069202
do you at least take the gems out or switch to less-upgraded weapons after you finish the DLC? It can't be fun killing every boss (from Shadows on) in like 30 seconds of R1 spamming + viscerals
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>>163085545
>>163085492
I thought Ebriatas was from the labyrinth, though, which was supposed to be below Yharnam?
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What is the most based quote in the game and why is it "fear the old blood"?
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>>163090691
Tonight... Gehrman joins the hunt

Man the fade to black as he says it. Gets me every time
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>>163090691
The confederates will always have my blessing. And each other. Always.
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So everything was fine but Laurence fucked it all up? How did Moon Presence start interfering with the world?
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From the fc last night. not the most exciting finish, but I found it very entertaining since I rarely use hunter's tools like BSE.
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Ooh! Majestic! A hunter is a hunter, even in a dream. But, alas, not too fast! The nightmare swirls and churns unending.
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>>163091370
Maybe Moon Presence just had a beef with Oeden or Mergo or Mergo's wet nurse or something? Maybe it considered their presence on Yharnam - or Mergo's mere existence - to be abominable? Who knows the social dynamics exist between the Great Ones?

The MP seemed to only care about slaying beasts that never should have been in Yharnam-land to begin with. I don't see MP as a bad guy. I can only assume that if the player kills MP, then the player - as a Great One - will continue the work that the MP was doing (with the culling of the beast scourge that'd been introduced to Yharnam), but maybe not with the same hunter's dream system
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Where is a spot to farm tomb mold (5)? I just need a few more before I can start running FRC chalices
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>>163092198
Lower Hintertomb, 3rd layer, farm the beastmen right after the ladder.
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>>163092198
Isz Layer 1 rats just outside the first lamp.
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>>163092198
don't listen to>>163092358
but listen to>>163092620
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>>163092198
Can't you just buy that shit from one of the baths?
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>>163093050
not unless you're in NG+. But looking at the current state of this general maybe I should assume everyone is braindead
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>>163090691
I think it's because there's so much wrapped up in it. Willem, bastard that he is, is still aware of the potent dangers of this stuff they found and it seems to be at a rather charged time in Byrgenwerth's life after the Fishing Hamlet massacre, which I think caused the split between Willem and Laurence, creating the Healing Church.

It's not just cool dialogue, it MEANS something.
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>>163093340
Don't forget that it completely changes meaning when uttered by healing church fanatics
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>>163087765
I'll help you
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wat
Just used fulled charged R2 on transformed MLGS
The follow up literally just went through HMPH, doing no damage.
HMPH did not dodge or anything. Literally just walked through it.
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>>163094018
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>>163094018
it's honestly the only boss I never fully mastered. I have to resort to chain backstabbing him in the second phase
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What's unique about the PC's hunt that leads to the snatchers to start appearing and assaulting and grabbing people in their homes and replacing them with eerie stand ins that give you tonsil stones?
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>>163095136
Snatchers work for ______ who's part of the _______ ______ to ______ a _____ one
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>>163093447
I wonder if it was always a church, did Laurence go in to found a religion, or did he set it up as some charitable organization? He was a Byrgenwerth scholar after, he knew the truth and had seen some of it. Was it that as the decades/centuries wore on, the blood came to be worshiped because of its miraculous properties and the mystery surrounding it and the people who doled it out? Churches like that grow over time, I wonder where the cultish aspects of it all started. Maybe Laurence was a fanatic ever since he saw the Labyrinths.

I suppose there must be an element of that, since he's the First Vicar, but that too could be a posthumous title bestowed by people way after him.
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>>163095326
Snatchers work for Gehrman who's part of the Hunters Dream to Fuck a Great one?
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So, after I stopped playing bloodborne a couple of months ago Because I got witcher 3 and wanted to finish it Today was the day I finally decided to come back into the game.

Last I played I was fighting Maria. Today I played about 6 hours, the first 45 minutes I spent getting back into the groove of things and beating Maria.

The next 5 hours were spent trying to kill THE TWO GIANT ASS SHARK MOTHERFUCKERS IN THE WELL. HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

That was probably the most painstaking and sadistic form of torture i've subjected myself to. My reflexes were on fire, I was feeling my hands and eyes starting to burn by the end. One was not so difficult, but both at once was actual hell. But damn if I didnt scream my lungs out when I killed the anchorless fucker.

Next I made it to Kos, but Only tried fighting him once, I hope by 2017 I'll beat him.
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>>163095450
Tonight... Gehrman fucks a octopus baby.
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>>163095497
orphan isn't that bad, he'll just fuck you royally if you mash roll after getting hit. take a few rounds and try to figure out his moveset and how to avoid it, i guarantee you'll find big openings.
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>>163095136
Tonight's no regular hunt, something's up, something big. Even folk hiding inside are going bad. Hunts have always ended, but this one won't end well.

Tonight, SOMEONE is beckoning the moon, throwing the beast scourge, which Yharnam has been dealing with for centuries, into overdrive.

Snatchers are undead Pthumerians from the Labyrinths under the city, sent to grab people as fuel or materials. Oh, and that 'eerie stand in' isn't something they left behind, it's someone else. Chances are you haven't met him yet if you're asking the question.
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>>163064090
Why do certain hunters become beasts and others don't? We probably killed more beasts than Gascoign and we don't turn to beasthood, is it like a mental fortitude thing? Does it have something to do with the dream?
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>>163095856

"A hunter who goes drunk with blood is said to be taken by the Nightmare, destined to wander forever, engaged in an endless hunt. It is a fate that no Hunter can escape"
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>>163095856
Honestly, who knows. Some people probably use more blood than others. If you're on the blood, though, chances are, you'll become a beast, it's not just hunters. Anyone is susceptible. That's the nature of it. Those big werewolves we fight were once regular Yharnamites. I suspect there's probably a good many people who go their lives never turning, though.

Gascoigne popped like he did because he was going for a while, and during our battle, he finally lost it. His wife had died, too, so he wasn't doing too well anyway, mentally. He was also clergy, and they always pop worse than regular folk. Vicar Amelia exploded into a full on Cleric Beast in front of us.

The reason our hunter doesn't turn is because something, an outside force, burned our beasthood away during that first blood transfusion. That werewolf that gets set ablaze before it touches is very symbolic, that's the beast, born of the blood, burned away, to be replaced by Nightmare denizens claiming us.
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>>163095497

So was Bloodborne actually popular? I see a lot of Art but I guess that's the niche audience that was for Demon's Souls as well

>MFW every americunt I talk to asks me what I like to play and don't know how to react when I say Bloodborne
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>>163093659
still here? i was in the shower, am booting up again
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>>163096530
For a lot of people, Bloodborne was the only reason to buy a PS4. Hell, I know it was for me, but I'm in Ireland, which in fact may speak to how popular it was since this asspit of a country would look down its nose on it.
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>>163096895
>>163096530
Definitely was for me. I bought my ps4 I think sometime during the spring of 2015. It was a gaming bundle deal, A ps4 with Bloodborne, The last of us remastered, and Order 1886 all for 300something euros. Pretty sick fucking deal at that point, and bloodborne alone was the whole reason why I got it at the time. Id have paid the same amount for just bloodborne and a ps4
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>>163090691
Apart from Ludwig's, Fear the Old Blood, Micolash awooing and his "Majestic (...)" quote, the one that stung with me the most is the dialogue that you get by giving the hairpin to the doll.
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>>163097171
I literally only own bloodborne on my ps4
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>>163096530
>souls game
>ps4 exclusive
>no lmao prepare to die:DDD maymays like Dark Souls

Nah not that polular
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>>163097243
Same here, though I plan to pick up Nier: Automata when it comes out.
I've milked so many hours out of Bloodborne. 600 and counting. I don't know how I find so much to do in this game. Most builds never take more than two weeks to complete, about 30 hours each (even my BLT build was only about 40).
I guess I just spend time spelunking, PvPing, co-oping. I'm genuinely confused as to how I'm not sick of this game yet.
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>>163095326
Micolash whos part of the Mensis Ritual to summon a Great
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>>163097243
Games that I own are
>BB TLOU and 1886 from the bundle
>W3
>God of War 3
>Uncharted Collection
>Uncharted 4
>Bioshock Collection
>Dishonored definitive edition
>Dishonored 2

Im excited for nier:automata and some other games, but these should keep me busy for a while.
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>>163095856
>We probably killed more beasts than Gascoign
Anon, Gascoign has been in Yharnam long enough to have a wife and kids there. the player just arrives. Gassy has been on hunts for years while it is the player's first hunt
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>Have dream where the opportunity to get laid pretty much drops itself right in my lap three times
>Turn down every time just so I could shitpost on dream 4chan
Oh-ho! Pathetic! A neckbeard is a neckbeard even in a dream.
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>>163097523
>>>163097640

>>162990507
There is a difference between fucking up some small werewolves and the occasional big beast and killing beasts, mad hunters, ayys and great ones.
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>>163097784
Why do you keep linking/replying to weird unrelated posts anon?
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>>163097979
Because I fucked up
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>>163097784
AFAIK, using blood and turning into a beast as a result is somewhat separate from gaining insight and going batshit insane. We see characters go batshit in BB without turning into beasts.
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>>163097773
you did the right thing anon
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>>163097784
Eileen and Djura both had dreams, Eileen even tells us to say hello to the doll for her after she kills us, presumably they both also killed Mergo.
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>>163098179
Just because they dreamed doesn't mean they succeeded in doing what the player does
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>>163098306
But anon, if you choose to die at the end your gravestone will be in the dream in the ng+ cycle, it just keeps repeating itself over and over with hunters. The only thing we do different is kill the Moon Presence.
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>>163098449
Those are from previous hunts, not the same hunt you did. Your hunt is unique for several reasons.

Old yharnam is another night that was a hunt, where the moon loomed high.

The hunts end when the moon presence says they end, and for some reason he is not ending the night on the hunt the PC takes part in.

As
>>163096464
said, someone or seomthing burns away your beast-hood, the PC is unique for some reason. Outsiders such as yourself, gacgoinge, and the dude by the first bonfire are possibly dudes being influenced to come to yharnam (which in and of itself is trapped in some kind of time loop by the moon presence) until someone can kill mergo.

Why the MP has beef with mergo is unsure. Mergo is likely queen yharnams baby.
MP clearly hates rom, so its not too much of a stretch to imagine he just hates competition.
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>>163098179
>presumably they both also killed Mergo

Where are you getting this from exactly? Djura was a dreaming hunter during the Old Yharnam burning and we have no idea what Eileen did while she dreamed. Djuras hunt was a special hunt, Eileens maybe too, maybe not but ours is as well.

>>163098449
This isn't Dark Souls, there are no cycles. There are probably gravestones for Djura, Eileen, Henryk and all the others in the dream, that doesn't mean that they all had to fight great ones etc. Your hunt is special because of the Mensis ritual that transforms almost everyone into a beast. The last time that happened and we know it happened was when OY burned down.
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>>163097171
>A ps4 with Bloodborne, The last of us remastered, and Order 1886 all for 300something euros

Fucking hell, I paid something like €415 for just the console and some shitty Star Wars Blue-rays. Had to buy Bloodborne for a further €70.
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>>163097452
>The game sold 152,567 physical retail copies within the first week of release in Japan,[95] ranking first place within the Japanese software sales charts for that particular week.[96] Bloodborne debuted at number two in the UK software retail chart, behind Battlefield Hardline by 22,500 units.[97] In North America, Bloodborne was the second best selling software in March, despite being released at the end of the month.[98] By April 2015, the game had sold over one million copies,[99] and by September 2015, the game had over two million copies sold.[100] Soon after release, Sony stated that the game's sales exceeded their expectations.[101]

>Bloodborne was awarded the 2015 Game of the Year by several video game review sites, including GameTrailers,[102] Eurogamer,[103] Destructoid,[104] and Edge,[105] along with being awarded the "2015 Playstation 4 Game of the Year" by IGN.[106] Bloodborne was nominated for eight Golden Joystick Awards, including Game of the Year, PlayStation Game of the Year, Best Original Game, Best Multiplayer Game, Best Storytelling, Best Visual Design, Best Audio, and Best Gaming Moment.[107]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodborne

Yeah basically an unknown game.
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>>163096685
no matter, i did it all by myself
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I have two questions for the lore buffs here.

First is about vermin. As I understood it, the vermin is those disgusting centipede-like parasites and they're contained in all old blood, basically. The more blood gets around and gets accumulated the bigger vermin becomes. First it's not visible, then you get Loran Silverbeasts that spawn the fuckers and in the end you get shit like the headless Bloodletting Beast. Is that right?

And second is Bloodlickers. The hell are those? Did they use to be people or are they something else entirely?
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>>163099842
The things that pop out of silverbeasts aren't vermin, just worms.

Bloodlickers are transformed pthumerians and vilebloods, same goes for the gargoyles.
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>>163099842
>for the lore buffs here
no
BB lore is a pandora's box that should never be opened ever again
But to answer your question those aren't vermin and everything used to be human at one point except for the crows and rats
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QUESTION

One of my weapons has a waning slot

I know watchers can drop a 27.2% offshape but that's not going to be anytime soon

The second best is 23.1% dropped by Loran SilverBeast HOWEVER, it has an extra secondary and a negative

It usually comes Bolt/Fire (Flat)

Is it still alowed to be buffed with paper and such?
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>>163098449
The ng+ cycle is just a game mechanic. Otherwise the player would not go to ng+ if s/he chose to die.
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>>163100452
nope, bolt/fire/arcane weapons can't be buffed with paper or the slime thing
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>>163099842
Those two anons say the gutworms from the silverbeasts aren't vermin, but there's one sjust crawling around Cainhurst and under Iosefka's Clinic in a poison lake. I've always thought of them as vermin, especially since they look like smaller version of the colossal ones inside Bloodletting Beast.

Bloodlickers are Pthumerian beasts, along with Gargoyles. Cainhurst has them because we wuz pthumerians, they were using Pthumerian-derived blood. I guess they were trying desperately to maintain some semblance of royalty after the Church started growing big.
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>>163100612

Okay, I thought that Bolt/Fire% does negate any Phys. DMG as well as making it unbuffable

I thought however, if it was flat you could still add the buff but now that I think about it it would be stupid as BoM Burial Blade and Amygdala arm exist
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>tfw fucking terrified

s-someone hold me
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>>163100817
note that beast blood pellets don't work with them either, which is a damn shame even if it would be "broken" or whatever.
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>>163101013
You better be.
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>>163101013
There is literally nothing to be afraid of, clown. Are you a hoonter or no?
Quit trembling in your boots.
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>>163101013
Remember that if you find an undead giant on your way it's not worth to continue, it's time to reroll
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>>163090691
>I am a doll, created by you humans. Would you ever think to love me?
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>>163090773
>>163090925
>>163093340
>>163102106
All wrong.
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Why is the Saw Spear recommended over Cleaver for Arc? Am I wrong in thinking that once it's converted to elemental damage, the R2s are no longer considered thrust?

Also, what is the point in Arcane gems? It seems to do less damage than Fire or Bolt against pretty much anything. I heard it was better against Pthumerians but when I tried an Arcane Kirkhammer against Elder it did less damage than the physical version.
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>>163102324
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>>163102324
>Why is the Saw Spear recommended over Cleaver for Arc?
Serrated in both forms, rather than just in untricked like the Cleaver.
>Am I wrong in thinking that once it's converted to elemental damage, the R2s are no longer considered thrust?
That's right. There is no longer thrust when it's converted, as thrust is a form of physical damage.
>Also, what is the point in Arcane gems?
Kos Parasite, mostly. Generally, people go either Bolt or Fire for conversion weapons, as those two will do you just fine.
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>>163102435
So is the Cleaver.
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>>163102592
cleaver is not serrated when transformed
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>>163102592
In BOTH forms, clown. As in, tricked and untricked. The Cleaver is only serrated when untricked.
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>The voice speaking during the Tonsil Stone monologue is of Patches the Spider.

Why does Patches replace every town generic npc after you enter FB woods?
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>>163103195
He only replaces one person, but that person happens to be the first one you talk to
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Arcane/fire/bolt abyssals or 27.2% elemental damage on a cane?
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>>163103195
Probably to make getting the stone a bit easier compared to a certain window after the woods
Plus it really spooked me on my first playthrough when my main man Gilbert got replaced

>>163103278
Nope, he replaces every window until you hit the next loading screen after picking up the stone
You can find him in the cathedral ward, walk to the hemwick and he'll be at that window too etc. until you load or warp
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Why cant we find any major glitches, the most recent one was the music box in personal effects thing which was completely useless, is Bloodborne flawless or are we just playing the game wrong?
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>>163104163
chalice dungeon bosses glitching into the wall is a pretty major glitch imo
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>>163104163
There are glitches all over the place. Not necessarily major, but plenty of glitches.
>Shadow of Yharnam at Byrgenwerth during co-op
>empty Pthumeru root chalices
>misplaced ladders in big swamp rooms
>overlapping layers in chalice dungeons
>Pthumerian Descendant/Elder boss with switched names
>that one anon's completely fucked up game with Loran Darkbeast as Abhorrent Beast
>Gehrman going out of bounds during the boss fight
>Keeper of the Old Lords glitching into a wall during a visceral attack
Just off the top of my head. There was also the memory leak bug, but that was patched out long ago.
>or are we just playing the game wrong?
You need more insight.
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>>163104163
What happened with the Music Box in personal effects?
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>>163104163
>is Bloodborne flawless
No. It is close but with no PC release the game is doomed to obscurity.
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>>163104163
I've seen rats glitching into the ceiling in chalice dungeons and I've seen minor bg graphic flickering virtually anywhere
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>>163104846
kek, you have a funny idea of obscurity when most games sell more on console than the PC vers sell
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>>163104805
A /bbg/ poster found a hostile tomb prospector in a Pthumerian Elder boss area.
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>>163104846
Bloodborne is far from being obscure, see >>163099643
The only people who missed it are underage platform warriors from /v/.
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>>163105061
Kek, source? Sounds hilarious.
>>163104805
Forgot one of the biggest ones, too.
>Living Failure left alive after the fight
pic very related
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Hey /bbg/, on what level should I stay to "always" get summoned to help with bosses?

I discovered that I enjoy tremendously to fight bosses and shit on coop, but Im afraid that if I overlevel I will not get summoned anymore.
Im level 88 atm.

Also which are the bosses that most people summon for help?
Rom? Orphan? Amelia?
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>>163105359
Your level is fine. 100 is good too.
Orphan and Ludwig get tons of co-op. And even at your level, you'll see plenty of activity in SRRC, though you'll be seeing a lot of defiled Amy and Hotdog.
Put on a Hunter of Hunters rune for shits and giggles while you're at it.
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>>163105359
50 or 100
88 is fine if you want to stop now.
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>>163104809
You placed the music box in the personal effects tab, enter ng+, then picking up any item (NOT consumables) would replace the empty slot inside the personal effects tab with the item you picked up, this only seemed to worked with weapons and key items. However they cannot be used which is why he called it useless.
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>>163105641
Eh, it's an interesting little glitch.

Was it tested with blood gems and ritual materials?
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when I use a weapon that does blunt damage like the hunter axe, does that mean that every swing I perform does the damage number listed under "blunt" in the weapon's stats? Or do certain moves (like the dash-attack poke) just count as generic "physical" damage, and that is the number used to calculate the weapon's damage on actual the stats screen?

If this is indeed how it works, how many of the axe's attacks count as blunt?
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>>163106262
Pretty sure standard swings are blunt. Almost the poke is a thrust though.
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>>163106262
Physical damage is completely irrelevant on blunt weapons
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Need 2 guys to farm cold abyssals.

Glyph bigkr99w

We create, run through it and then we help each in the layer 3 so we have 3 chances of getting a good one.

Need 2, who's in?
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>>163106262
Why is an axe a blunt weapon anyway?
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>>163106439
If you back up your save, you get infinite tries at getting the gem you need.
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>>163106720
I don't have an USB, nor PS plus on my account (I have it on another account so I can into multiplayer)
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>>163106685
It's a JoJo reference
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Do a lot of weapons and enemy attacks do generic physical damage, but not blunt or thrust? Do any of the singular physical attacks in the game do a combination of these three (or two?) types of damage? How does that work out with the numbers?

>>163106405
the hunter axe doesn't have a number listed under the "Thrust" stat for damage, so it can't ever do thrust damage as far as I can tell
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What are the best weapons for a str/arc build? Thinking 50 arc and 25 strength
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>>163106262
Certain attacks are blunt, these use the blunt number. Others use the physical number, or if relevent the thrust number.

The only weapon that's 100% of its moves are blunt is the Beast Cutter. Kirk in tricked mode is all blunt as well. Axe is weird, in untricked only a few moves are blunt, but tricked the majority of them are. Even though it's the same axe blade.

You can check damage types in the spreadsheets in the OP. It lists entire moveset with attack modifiers and colour coded for damage type. White for Phys, Green for Thrust, Orange for Blunt, Red for blood and blue for Arcane.
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>>163107386
Wheel, Moonlight and infused weapons.
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So whats the story behind upper cathedral ward?

i just got there and it's pretty eerie . I dont mind spoilers
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Can I put my save on a USB then accept Gehrman's offer and then reload my save to kill him to get both trophies?
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>>163107776
Yes.
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>>163107736
the Healing Church wanted a place to keep Ebrietas hostage for her sexual fluids.
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>>163107494
So if i start with the axe and throw some fire gems in it or something I'll be good for awhile? I just started the character a few mins ago
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>>163105061
>A /bbg/ poster found a hostile tomb prospector in a Pthumerian Elder boss area.

Like, as well as the boss, or the boss was placed with just a prospector?
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>>163108052
If you put three fire gems on the Axe its damage will be converted to fire and it will scale from arcane exclusively.

>>163108083
The boss was there, but there was a hostile NPC as well. He posted a screenshot a while ago but I don't have it.
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>>163107447
oh wow that's useful stuff, thanks. Not sure why I never checked before.

the only non-blunt attack of the 2H Hunter axe is the jump attack, strangely. It's also 20% serrated when in 1H mode, like the saw cleaver.
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>>163107736
The Choir keep Ebrietas up there, she's the source of their blood, at least the stuff they dole out, or it's the raw shit then bred through blood saints and stuff. Also probably some gnarly ass experiments, considering you find the Celestial Emissary up there. It's just a general hive of mad science and eldritch horror, where the Church keep their dirty secrets.
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>>163108216
nevermind I read that wrong:
>20% serrated when in 1H mode
is incorrect
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>>163108190
>The boss was there, but there was a hostile NPC as well

Absolutely just fuck that
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>>163108339
She's not the source of the blood
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>>163108339
sounds spooky. dont know who or what ebrietas is but i cant wait to find out now
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>>163108216
> the only non-blunt attack of the 2H Hunter axe is the jump attack, strangely.

Did you even read the chart? The dodging attacks and running/Backstep R1's attacks are also physical. But the point still stands, Blunt gems on a tricked hunters axe is viable and extremly good.

> It's also 20% serrated when in 1H mode, like the saw cleaver.

Yeah, that's not true.
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>>163108486
Who is then?
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>>163108486
>And deep within the Cathedral Ward is the old grand cathedral...the birthplace of the Healing Church's special blood, or so they say.

She is A source of blood. Not the only one, because not everyone is using the same strains. Cainhurst has uniquely Pthumerian-bred blood. The stuff they're currently using in Yharnam should be coming from Ebrietas.
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>>163109496
Ebrietas isn't in the Grand Cathedral.
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>>163108486
> The Old Grand Cathederal
> The birthplace of the Church's special blood, or so they say

There's also a few more dialogues/descriptions talking about how Grand Cathederal is source of the healing blood.
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>>163090691
Ahhhh, you were at my side all along...
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>>163109598
Yes she is. She's actually right behind it. You know where you pick up A Call Beyond? Look down over the railing. That's Amelia's boss room. The Grand Cathedral.
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>>163109598
The Upper Cathedral Ward is literally located right on top of the Grand Cathedral + Cathedral Ward.
In fact, on the way to Ebrietas's fight, past the broken window, you can look down onto the Grand Cathedral.
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Why isn't skl/arc a thing? Couldn't you just throw some arc gems in a rakuyo and go 25/50 ir something? Seems like most arc hybrids go with str
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>>163109757
Because BoM and BB aren't actually arc weapons, and throwing arcane convertible gems onto a Rakuyo isn't skill/arc. It's just arcane, with the minimum requirements for a skill weapon.
What would be the point of going 25/50 anyways?The skill requirement for the Rakuyo is only 20.
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>>163109598
> Church hides in the basement because they don't want people finding her
> it totally doesn't count as the Cathederal even though Amelia's and Eribritas's boss rooms practically share a wall.
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>>163109691
>>163109735
>>163109930
Is my backyard also my house simply because they are close to each other and share a wall?
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>>163108486
>>163109598
AWOOOOOOO
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>>163110157
Yes? You fucking clown, do you not consider your backyard to be part of your house, your property?
Here is the quote again:
>And deep within the Cathedral Ward is the old grand cathedral...the birthplace of the Healing Church's special blood, or so they say.
The Cathedral Ward also includes the Upper Cathedral Ward, which is where you find Ebrietas.
And the old grand cathedral does include the upper echelon of it, the part that literally leads to Ebrietas upon breaking the window.
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>>163109926
I'm not sure, i was just curious. My first char was pure skill, now i wanna do an arc build but I'm not sure if i should go 50 or 70 arc. If im gonna pick a weapon and throw arc gems in it should i just get the minimum reqs then pump arc? Are the tools actually useful?
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>>163110157
Ah, semantics. Do dungeons and oubliettes not count as parts of a castle since they're hidden away? What about that secret room in Cainhurst behind the bookshelf you use to access the ladder to Logarius? Surely doesn't count as part of the castle.

You wanna get technical? Directly up past the railings above Amelia's room, you can walk right to the elevator and down the shaft to Ebby-chan's room. Literally not a single barrier between Amelia's room and Ebby's.
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Anyone interested in helping me kill the Ringwraiths? I can kill headless Bloodletting Beast without taking damage but these guys fuck my shit up for some reason.

Ring by the fog, password: derp
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>>163110157
>Is my backyard also my house
Anon...
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>>163110453
>If im gonna pick a weapon and throw arc gems in it should i just get the minimum reqs then pump arc?
Yes, generally. Unless you're looking at the Logarius's Wheel which benefits from 25 (STR)/50 (ARC) as well. But if it's pure physical, then yeah, you just meet the minimum requirements, pump arc, and throw some arc/fire/bolt gems on it, whichever you prefer.
>Are the tools actually useful?
They're great, for the most part. You'll find yourself using some more than others. Tiny Tonitrus is pretty useless, situational if anything. Gloves, BSE, and Brew are all fantastic. They scale well past 50, too.
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>>163110642
Sure m8, lemme boot up my Commodore 64
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Hey guys, This guy's on pace for world record bb all bosses speedrun, hop on in.

twitchDOTtv/elajjaz
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>>163110821
You're the real deal, anon.
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>>163106849
usbs are cheap. You'll need one eventually so I'd invest in it.
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>>163110962
Ringadingin

Make sure ye are on the stairs, bell doesn't work otherwise, it's weird. If there's a little X through your bell symbol under the health bar, move back a tad.
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>>163111251
Found one, still I need 3 colds abyssals, even using it it would be faster with a farming group.
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>>163111348
Ok cool. I'm beckoning at the stairs.
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Instead of a meaningless title like Daughter of the Cosmos, they should've called Ebrietas "Source of the Blood"
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>>163111556
>Source of The Blood
>What is the Bloodletting Beast in the Japanese release
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Need help against ptumerian elder, can someone help via srrc?

Pass bbg
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>>163111750
please explain
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>>163111556
But anon, it just allows for more goddamn lorefagging, like the little slug babies being baby Ebby's being groomed as future blood sources, or methods of contact, or the name 'Daughter of the Cosmos' kind of being a little indefinite, is she THE Daugher or A Daughter, it's all good.

Not that I'm complaining, it's why I love this general, have had some very comfy nights discussing lore bits here.

>>163111750
Should we take Japanese names as absolute gospel? I suppose so, but I have to wonder, what do the names translate to in other languages? What is Micolash's German title? Or Celestial Emissary's Spanish name? One Reborn's Afrikaan's designation?
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>>163110918
We were bad luck
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>>163112075
Fucking shrimp man.
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>>163102324
It's like I'm in a time loop
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Thanks for the help, anon. That was a proper stomping of those three.
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>>163112190
I have no idea what this image references, but it cracks me up every time I see it
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>>163111750
The Japanese name for BLB translates to "host of the Beastblood".

I have no idea why people thought this was such a revelation, people got so excited they started calling it "source of the Beastblood" when it's not that at all. He's a host of Beastblood, as in his body is ridden with vermin.
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>>163112239
That was a right bollocking it was. Glad to help, anon!
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How do I beat Vicar Laurence?
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Can I get help with logarius?

I'm at cainhurst lamp, rang my bell but nothing's happening
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Pls help ptumerian elder
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I have no clue how to beat Orphan of Kos
I consistently die when he's at 20% health
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>>163112845
Pass is bbg right? SRRCing
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>>163112632
Sure, anon, what's the pass?

>>163112845
Lemme kill Loggins with anon and I'll be on me way, what's your pass?
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>>163112946
>20%
then you're doing SOMETHING right
I've never gotten past the 75% mark
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>>163113025
Pass is 888
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>>163113012
>>163113025
Just killed him solo, I almost cried.
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>>163113395
Let those HMPHs flee your dreams now, anon
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>>163113473
No, I need 3 more
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>>163113640
rip in piece
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Thanks anon
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>>163114214
Glad to help!
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ded
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>>163113640
Idk what your build is, but if you have 50arc bse stunlocks him to death from around 25-35% health
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>>163115903
It does it from fifty, provided you go in with blood bullets and none of your shots miss.
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How come there isnt any porn of anon fucking the wet nurse?

I mean its so obvious.
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About to savescum Elder for Cold Abyssals in kkvk8gsj. Will ring for a minute between tries. Pass is cold
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Speedrunner's doing it again. Come give him your energy. Maybe with enough hype he can get past shrimp man.

twitchDOTtv/elajjaz
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tfw blasting yharnam queen with augur so hard she fucks off into the wall
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>>163116896
Is he open for invasions?
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>>163116963
wow it even killed her
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>>163116896
well fuck my ass, run just died. Guess who looks like an idiot now.

Screw you guys, you guys are SHIT luck.

>>163117006
Dont know.
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The wiki didn't tell me much and google gave a bunc of different answers so

Best place to farm twin shards?
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>>163117051
Hippopotamus Gaoo
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>>163117245
The snatchers?
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>>163117276
Yes, the two near the lamp
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KILLER QUEEN
DAISAN NO BAKUDAN
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>>163116679
Rerolling
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>Arcane scaling+65
noice

>>163117948
>WPN durability UP+5.8
Noice

>HP gradually depletes-4
Fuck you too
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>>163117948
I mean, beckoning again
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>>163118006
Just put a pulsing gem in you gun, it completely nullifies the HP depletes. You're an arc build anyway, you'll be using your tools for ranged damage.
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>>163117858
BITES ZA DUSTO
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>>163118006
50 scaling is not enough, beckoning again.
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how do I cheese the Orphan

also, is there any porn of him with a snail lady
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>>163110747
Nice, thanks for the info m8, I'm really leaning towards 70ish arc but i don't wanna be doing shit damage until i get the gems.
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>>163115903
I found a way to cheese him using the executioners glove
>>163118083
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>>163119241
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>>163118083
Still farming?
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>>163118878
>scaling +35
>hp deplete
And not a single abyssal was gotten on this day...

Beckoning again
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>>163119394
Kos here, delete this right this instant.
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>>163119394
Get fucked lmao
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>>163119624
Jesus

Ringadingin
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>>163119624
Can I join via srrc?
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>>163064090
Do I have to do the chalice dungeons to have a strong character?
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>>163119394
That's the first phase though. You don't even need to cheese it. The 2nd phase is the true casual filter and much harder to cheese
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>>163119748
I'll wait for you both
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>>163119889
Pass is cold rite?
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>>163119790
For Str/Skl/Blt builds, 22.3% Phys Droplets from DLC Lanterns are more than enough for the whole game. For PvP and Arc builds, you'll want to go into dungeons. Unless you're Twinking or mainly stick to Hunter Tools with high Arc.
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>>163119876
This skips the 2nd phase.
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>>163119876
He'll die in his first phase if you keep doing that.
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>>163120027
Alright, i'll power through them before next fight club. Thanks senpai
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>>163119889
>cursed
>35
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>>163120332
Oh, it was 50, still shit tho
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>>163119670
>>163119947
>Arc scaling +65
>dura up +6
>increase stamina
Got a good one. This is all for today unless you guys are also sacescumming
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>hp depletes -7
Why is this even a thing?
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>>163120615
I was just in it for the co-op, glad to help a brother arcfag get his gems
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fuck, I really want to finish another build for the FC but everytime I think about the fact that I'm going to have to slog through the CD's then spend hours farming for gems I get really discouraged and just load up one of my finished characters that I can continue to farm/co-op/pvp on.

I know this topic has been done to death but why couldn't they have made some way to reroll your class, maybe a once per new game consumable like in DaS2?

It just blows knowing that (especially since I'm a shitter) I'll have to spend hours and hours to make a new build that I might end up not enjoying as much as my current one and just deleting.

What do you guys do when you feel like this? Do you just grit your teeth and suffer through it? Or are all of you good enough where you can complete the main game + CD's in a single day?
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>>163120615
I am also at his door on my character, other Glyph.

Can you guys help?

If so pass is cold and ring thought srrc.
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>>163120749
Main game + CD's are easy to complete in a day without distractions. Farming for gems will take a while. Just grab some Lumpy and madman gems from Lower Pthum and Lower Hinter and breeze through the game with them until you have DLC 22.3% Droplets. Or the early fire gems if you're an Arc build.
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>landing a fully charged R2 Stake Driver hit on Orphan of Kos
I have now landed it on every boss, except Laurence and Moon Presence. Feels like ejaculation.
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>>163120834
Oh shit, you still ringing for him? There was a Father Ted thread on /tv/, had to lurk out of national duty
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Still trying to get a cold abyssals, is someone is interested pass is cold ring via SRRC
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>>163120749
I just play like normal without rushing and while taking my time. It usually takes a week for the character to show up at the fc.
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>>163120749
>kill Amelia
>do the first 2 cds
>finish the game
>farm mensis lanterns for one anti beast and one anti kin set
>breeze through the cds

All that can be done in roughly <15 hours and that's when you take your time and don't speedrun.

>farm gems
That's where the real bullshit starts but on phys builds you can still win with 27s from watchers and just farm for the rare gems over time.
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>>163119243
Don't worry, anon. You won't. The earliest fire gem you can get is the one guarded by a Brainsucker past the Abandoned Old Workshop. You can also run the first Pthumerian chalice and farm Hotdog gems.
Gilbert gives you a Flamesprayer after you kill Gascoigne as well, so there's another source of good damage.
And you'll find better gems as you run through the games and go through the deeper chalices. The Tonitrus you pick up from the Hypogean Gaol/Yahar'gul is an absolute nuke for bolt damage, but if you don't want to invest the extra point or so in strength to be able to wield it, you can just wait till Nightmare Frontier or Ailing/Lower Loran to get a half decent bolt drop.
Arc builds are very easy to get going, as most of the resources you need are available early on. So, don't fret over it too much.
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>>163121937
Did it knock him to the ground?
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>>163122959
Staggered him but no visceral.
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So I got 34 strength so far, +7 beast cutter.

It feels kind of weak though. What should my second weapon be? I was thinking kirk or ludwig.
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>>163123524
Aim for 50 Str, 25 Skl for a bit more damage. Ludwig is pretty boring, Kirk is better in terms of fun. Saw Cleaver is good paired with the Cuttah. Whirligig as well. Maybe Axe.
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Ringing again for cold abyssals, pass cold
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Played DeS, DS1/2, but never really got into parrying, but found I'm having fun with it in Bloodborne. What's the notable differences between the parry-centric guns?
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>>163124030
how long are you going to be farming for? Can I join through the SRRC?
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>>163124061
Hunter's Pistol is quick and long ranged, the Blunderbuss has a very wide spread and is basically a guaranteed parry, but has shorter range

Various other guns are simply variations of this, I never really understood the reasons for choosing anything else other than for fashion. Evelyn can do really good damage, cannons and chaingun are for damage, Rosmarinus/Flamesprayer for damage
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>>163124246
Yup, Ringing.
Pass cold
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>>163124030
>>163124246

I'm booting in right now, hope you're still going to be ringing.
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>>163124061
Hunter Pistol is quick and has decent range. Blunderbuss has a shorter range but staggers better with a slight delay. Evelyn is similar to Hunter Pistol but does the most damage per bullet with high Bloodtinge. Repeating Pistol does more per shot but uses 2 bullets, does okay damage at base Blt. Ludwig's Rifle is a shittier Blunderbuss with more range but longer recovery, babs use it to stagger from a safe distance if they didn't get a parry. Piercing Rifle from the DLC goes through enemies but has a longer recovery, does a bit less damage than the Evelyn with high Blt.
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>>163124510
>>163124246
Are you guys Ringing?
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>>163124509
Okay ringing now
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>>163123870

I'll probably do kirk for the neato aspect. That or
go strength/arcane and use boomhammer. that could be fun.

Or would boomhammer be more of a mostly strength?

50 str / 25 arcane for boom?
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>>163124509
Fuck, I'm not getting you through the srrc for some reason
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>>163124865
Pure str for Boom. It's a fun weapon but not that good
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>>163124865
50 Strength is fine for Boomhammer, no need to up Arcane if you're gonna stick in Phys/Blunt gems. For a 25/50 Str/Arc build Nourishings would be better for it.
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How do I parry the OoK
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>>163125313
You have to shot him with the right timing
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I bought a PS4 2 months ago just to play Bloodborne (having a blast so far), and since then I've playing sparingly mostly because of work and haven't finished it yet but I think I'm nearing the end of the game.

I have some questions:

Will the game restart automatically to proceed to NG+ after I beat the final boss?
I ask this because I want to continue my progress through the DLC after I beat the main game (if possible)

How good is the Kirkhammer?
I feel like it's way too powerful (in PVE) and it's the main reason I've been breezing through the bosses, or at least that's what I think, but then again I have always preferred heavy/slow weapons in Souls games, maybe I'm just used to them.

What weapon/build would you recommend for a second playthrough?
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>>163124030
Are you still ringing? It's not finding you for some reason
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>>163125569
Do the DLC after defeating Wet Nurse. Kirk is good, not as OP as other weapons like Saws. Arcane or Bloodtinge, Str/Arc, Str/Blt are common hybrid builds. Skl/Blt is a meme and Skl/Arc doesn't have any weapons that scale with both stats effectively together.
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Fug
I've been on Orphan for like 3 hours now and I'm about to kill myself because I have to keep going to farm blood vials. Fuck my life
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>>163127323
Stop being afraid of him. Just get up in his shit, on his right and your left, and wreck havoc. Attacking him like a crazy retard like he does works.
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>>163125994
I started the DLC right after I got to Mensis' Nightmare.
Just defeated Maria 2 days ago, cool bossfight, parrying her made it a little bit too easy, Living Failures was shit.
Ludwig is imo the pinnacle of Souls/BB boss design along with Artorias, O&S, Fume Knight and Nameless King.

Thanks for the reccs, is Skl that bad of an attribute?
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>>163101703
>make my first frc isz root
>metal dreadlocks giant is the FIRST boss
i deleted it immediately
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>>163128403
CASUAL
A
S
U
A
L

No need to waste materials, just take dying one or two times.
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>>163128493
or fifty
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>>163128403
Well at least now you can use other peoples isz root chalice.
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>>163128403
Cannon giant is worse imo
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>you will never have a bell summon that can just beat the Orphan for you
I just want the parasite, man
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>>163128317
Not at all, it's just that hybrid builds with Skl (except Quality) aren't much different than a normal Skill build. 25/50 Skl/Blt is just a Blt build with extra visceral and Chikage/Bowblade untricked damage, which will do mediocre damage. And 50/25 is just a Skl build with extra bullet/arrow damage. 15/50 for Blt or 50/10 for Skill is better, 50/50 is alright but you'll have to ignore End and keep Vit around 40 if you don't wanna go past 120. 25 Strength on a Skill build would be a better investment.
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>>163125569
>Will the game restart automatically to proceed to NG+ after I beat the final boss?
Yes, go into the DLC after Micolash. Don't kill Wet Nurse if you want to listen to some Doll dialogue after defeating some of the DLC bosses.

>How good is the Kirkhammer?
Very good but not the easiest weapon to use. Good taste.

>What weapon/build would you recommend for a second playthrough?
Pure Arc or Str/Arc. Wheel is fun.
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>>163128317
Fume knight is a overhyped garbage boss
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>>163128765
I'd do it for you, but I'm not home now. Set a password and someone else will help, surely.
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>>163128792
>Yes, go into the DLC after Micolash. Don't kill Wet Nurse if you want to listen to some Doll dialogue after defeating some of the DLC bosses.

Fuck man, I already killed her, thanks for the recs tho.
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>>163128765
>>163128869
Ringing at the nightmare fog entrance to the Orphan; password is kosm
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>>163128854

Fume Knight is much harder than any boss I've encountered in BB.
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My sliderfu is super weak, does anyone have any tips to improve it? I've never been very good with making faces and it makes starting new characters a huge hassle.
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>>163125113
Even better I wanted to stay strength for this guy.
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>>163131216
Kos will skullfuck anyone to death at least once. Fume knight is piss easy by comparison.
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>>163128614
You don't have to make a root chalice to use glyphs from other people.
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>>163131249
Use other people's sliders, either copy them and make some tweaks or use them as reference.
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>>163132108

Kos = lol mash roll OP iframes, parrt, parry, parry
Fume = properly time your rolls or you dead

BB is my fav Souls game, but it is the easiest game in the series by far.
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>>163132406
>BB
>easier than DS3 or 2

Sure.
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>>163132406
Orphan punishes wrong dodges very badly, and is designed to fuck with what you think you know about dodging.
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>>163131216
Being a good fight is more important than being difficult. Otherwise the Bed of Chaos would be considered the best boss out of all the games.
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>>163132513
>>163132406
I had a harder time with DaS2 DLC and old hunters than any other part of the 5 games. Fume knight's second stage is way harder than OoK though.

>>163132406
DaS3 is the piss easy one and I genuinely don't like DaS so I never finished it.
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Is 40 of vitality too low for a lvl 100 character?

At the start of the game I messed up some points in stats that I don't need now and I can't reach the 50 kill and 50 vit on lvl 100 like I wanted.
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>Playing Bloodborne for the first time
>Having loads of fun with the combat
>Never really dived very deep into the Souls games so it feels like an extremely new experience.
>Game looks stunning.

I think I found another game to waste my time on finally.
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>>163132953
USE
THE
PLANNER
https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne

Jesus Christ, it's so fucking easy to come up with a build and maximize it's efficiency with this shit.
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>>163133070
Im sorry if that upsets you that much, but you didn't even answer the question.

>Is 40 of vitality too low for a lvl 100 character?
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>>163132953
Nah, it's the minimum most people recommend. Slap on 2 Clock Runes and you're good.
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>>163133218
Yes, go make a new character, 50 is the minimum
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>>163133035
I've officially wasted a year of my life on it, not a second of regret
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>Beast cutter
I know you guys said this was EZ mode but god damn that is an understatement.
It's moveset is sexy and damage is great. All blunt damage so it benefits from more damage with the adept gems.
All around great.
I'm guessing in PvP it's a beast too?
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>>163133915

When you are 62 and on your deathbed, you'll regret it.
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What should my main weapon be on a strength build.

Wheel, Hunters Axe, or boomhammer
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so this is paced nothing like dark souls, right
is it more like god hand?
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I have 50 skill and 50 bloodtinge. I am doing a bow blade build, did I fuck up? I haven't played bloodbourne in like a year and im.coming back to an old save file
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Why does the beasthunter saif do such crappy damage? It's moveset is fucking radical but whenever I try to use it I feel as if I'm hamstringing myself, as much as I want to like it.
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>>163134107
If you can hit with it yeah it's alright for PvP. Full 32.6% Blunt Adepts for max damage, 50/25+ Str/Skl. It's okay for Arcane builds too.
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>>163134187
Wheel or Axe, Boomhammer has low Dura and a small moveset. Axe will probably be easier to use.

>>163134468
Nah, the blade scales only with Skill and arrows only Blt.

>>163134515
Get better gems, 50 Skill or Arcane if you're converting it. 25 Strength on a Skill build is good for it. 50/25 Str/Skl could work too if you slot a Heavy.
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>>163134167
What, regret having discovered one of my most favourite pieces of media that has kept he constantly entertained, interested and helped fuel my own creative endeavours in various ways? I guess.
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>>163134468
>I have 50 skill and 50 bloodtinge. I am doing a bow blade build, did I fuck up?

USE
THE
PLANNER
https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne

Jesus Christ, it's so fucking easy to come up with a build and maximize it's efficiency with this shit.
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is uncanny the best version of moonlight blade if im focusing on arcane over physical? im not knowledgable about the gems available in each shape.
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>>163134926
Lost, a Gargoyle/Rom Radial, Amy Triangle and an Amy Waning Nourishings.
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>>163134831

Imagine your entire life flashing before your eyes when you die, do you seriously think you farming OoF Blunt Adept 32.1% Radial Waning Combo Fusion Stam Down Dura Up Gem will be one of your memories?

Live life. Games are fun, but they never more fun than actual life itself.
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>>163134107
I remember the first time I touched the Beast Cutter and played around with it. I absolutely fell in love with the weapon. Everything about it is so perfect, from the look and feel to the sound effects and how satisfying it is.
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>>163135040
I've actually only been farming for gems in any kind of Korean manner very recently. My year spent playing this game has been on various characters and NG+ cycles, really.

I'm a writer, in the sense I have published stories, and a decade-long Lovecraft fan, as both of these things, Bloodborne actually means quite a bit to me as a creative endeavour. It takes something I'm deeply fond of it and treated it with respect and care, while doing its own thing wonderfully and originally. Not only is it incredible to experience and discuss, it helps me with my own writing. Just walking around, looking at the world, the items, the monsters, it's all very stimulating. And co-op and late night discussions with this general of madmen has been just an overall really pleasant experience. It's just a good, positive thing in my life and I wouldn't ever begrudge that just because it isn't trekking across Europe or getting smashed at night clubs with strangers. I've had various injuries culminating in a car accident as a young teenager, been diagnosed with a life long illness, have all kinds of anxiety issues, sometimes I have different priorities when living life is so much fun. One of them is fondness for a very impactful videogame that 100% lived up to all of my expectations.
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>>163134107
>>163135502

I don't like it. Feels clunky at best and the dash attack is lacking.
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anybody want to fight the infamous HMPH?
password bbg
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>>163136716
on my way
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>>163136716
>>163136885 here
how does SRRC even work? I'm not connecting and can't even tell if it's because I don't meet the requirements or just not connecting
Which chalice? What's the glyph and layer?
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>>163136885
im ringing at the lamp if that matters
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>>163137170
it's the story chalice, the last one with queen yharnam
you have to have the chalice made, but im not sure if you need to have beaten it
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>>163137301
Just realized I didn't have the last story chalice made
brt switching characters
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>>163137403
>>163137301
i think you just need to have made it at least once and you can remove it and itll be fine
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almost got him, ringing again
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Can't decide if I should do a BL4 run for added skill/pressure or a fist run.

What sounds like more fun/heartache/enjoyment.
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>>163137301
>>163137579
>>163137170
>>163136885
>>163136716
>story chalice

LOL!

Implying that the repetitive OPTIONAL game mode that literally copied Diablo 3 drifts and go no dialogue, cut scenes and reused bosses (even unique bosses like rom, making the lore make no sense) is canon.
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>>163138072
nice post
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>>163138000
thanks for ringing, but i gotta go do something at the moment, ill be back in an hour or so if you're still around
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>>163138008
BL4 is funner, fists will do shit damage until you get Kos Parasite. You'll mainly rely on viscerals, and you can't parry/backstab everything.
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>>163135040
>Games are fun, but they never more fun than actual life itself.
This is not my reality. I envy you.
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>>163136580
Use the untricked mode more. Give it a try before shiting on this beautiful weapon.
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>>163138072
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>>163138072
The roms in the chalices are simply other vacuous spiders
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>>163135040
>Live life. Games are fun, but they never more fun than actual life itself.

What >>163139434 said.

Not all of us have a great life outside of games. Some people play games / read books / watch movies to escape reality. Don't know about the other anon but I've got a really fucked up disease that severely inhibits my quality of life. I'd rather spend what moments I have playing, because then I at least get immersed into whatever game has my attention in the moment and forget about the pain.

If someone tries to tell you you're wasting your time doing something you enjoy fuck em. We're all free to live life however the fuck we want to.
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>getting fucking nuked by bloodletting beast so hard you clip through the universe
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>>163142859
>that fucking stamina bar
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>>163144012
AND I STILL DIDN'T BEAT HIM

I have never PVP'd with that character, he is PVE only for funsies
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Anyone want to kill frontier amy? Im in ng+ and i cant even lawrence so im trying to find other stuff to do.
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Would you a female Living Failure?
She can be in a cute dress if you want.
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>>163144930
Sure, pass and lamp or fog?
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>>163145284
I'll be at the fog wall with pass amypls
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>>163145343
On my way
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>>163145508
im so bad
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>>163145731
It's fine, ringing again. How much Vit you got?
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>>163145773
Fitty
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>>163145773
Thank you so much!!!
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>>163146114
No prob ;)
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Does anyone need to kill Queen Yharnam? I have the chalice and im ready to help if anyone needs her dead... i love that fight...
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ok so i've never tried the parry trick on logarius and i want to give it a shot. what gun is best? ludwigs or blunderbuss? what should my bloodtinge level be?
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I might get a PS4 soon, I remember hearing that Bloodborne had a decent amount of FPS dips below 29-30fps when it came out, has it been patched since then to run at a more stable 30fps?
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>>163149515
yes and no. its definitely more stable than launch, for sure. but i still get occasional drops during boss fights.

of course if you're co-oping there's waaay more drops, but that's just souls games. also there is no ps4 pro patch and no plans to patch it for the pro, if that helps at all.
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>>163149506
No need to level Blt if you're just parrying. Hunter Pistol is quick and has decent range. Blunderbuss staggers better due to spread but has a shorter range.
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>>163149656
i'm thinking blunderbuss. you shoot the scythe when he throws it in the ground, and basically spam parry when hes fighting you right
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>>163149515
I've only really gotten huge fps drops in the chalice dungeons, but it's still pretty rare. Not something I would really worry about.
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>>163149632
Thanks for the info, If I get a PS4 it won't be the Pro, most likely that recently discounted Slim bundled with Uncharted 4 which I could care less about.

I normally never summon on 1st playthrough unless I'm on my 20th+ try on a boss or hard area so I think I'll be fine, as long as the majority of the game runs at a stable 30fps I think I'll be happy. If it runs similar to Demons Souls I can definitely handle it, Demons has some drops but somehow by virtue of its design still feels responsive when the FPS drops and I'd hope BB is the same, I've been on a Souls tear lately going back and doing MLGS runs through all of them again, glad to hear that apparently it's good again in BB.
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>>163149779
Better to learn the timing than spam but sure. Remember to backstab him when he starts to buff himself, it'll cancel the buff and your bullets won't go flying off him. I prefer Hunter Pistol for the range and speed.
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>>163150046
Not him but Bloodborne is pretty much the same, I don't really notice the FPS drop much unless it's a specific boss, even then it's manageable. MLGS is really fun in Bloodborne, the best version in my opinion out of the whole series.
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>>163150046
that description of demons souls sounds like BB to me. i've yet to play it (BB is the only souls game i've played) but i really want to; considering buying a ps3 for it. still unsure about dark souls, i've heard only the first is good. but apparently Demons souls is much closer to BB than dark souls is. other thing is i don't know anything about demons souls, whereas i know pretty much the basic summary of the dark souls story.
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>>163150239
Souls games are like MGS, they are all amazing in their own ways although 2 is nearly universally considered the weakest, either way they are all worth a playthrough. Dark Souls 1 is great, the world design and progression are great, DS2 felt less inspired but was addicting and had the best gimmicks with NG+ and PvP covenant shenanigans, DS3 felt more like 1 but with more polish and less scope, and DeS is the most archaic but is the most eccentric and weirdly interesting with its design and tried concepts that didn't make it into the other games.

I would argue that if you love Bloodborne there is a very good chance that you will love all the other Souls games if not at the very least be totally satisfied with having completed all of them.
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Why is Chalice Abberant Beast the hardest 'boss' in BB?
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>>163151624
Because you don't know how to punish him back. Let him come to you, dodge his attack, get a few hits and back off. Just watch out for the tornado slam. One of the easiest bosses on my BL4 run to be honest.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoyevcAnbb4
Still one of the best themes in the entire game.
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>>163151847
His range is just insane though, much better than mine
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>>163153173
That's why you dodge in, toward his right side (your left). 1-3 hits, back off, wait for his next attack to dodge in and repeat.
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What is it about Darkbeast Paarl's death that leads Djura to become potentially friendly?
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>>163064461
> mfw kill Ludwig on the second attempt without using anything but my weapon and a summon
> tfw learning that he was apparently really fucking hard
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>>163102106
> OF COURSE I LOVE YOU~~~~~~
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Need help at ludwig, password bbg.

Near hill where eyeball witch is.
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>>163155487
On my way
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>>163094018
New to bb. what is HMPH?
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>>163155546
Thanks for the help bud.
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>>163155749
No prob, nice seeing ya again ;)
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>>163155731
just a guy my guy
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>>163155731
Pthumerian Descendant. HMPH is not an acronym, it's the sound he makes.
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>>163153738
Not just death, seeing him is enough. Don't remember the exact lore details and I'm not going to look them up so I'll just give you a quick tl;dr off the top of my head and hope another anon fills in whatever I missed.

If Djura knows that you've witnessed the "beauty" or w/e of the darkbeasts, and sees you make your way up to him without killing any of the beats of old yharnam, he can view you as someone who shares the same perspective as he does on beasts and preserving the sanctity of their life.
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Anyone want to start chalice dungeons with me?
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> always been awful with parrying
> mfw trying to beat Lady Maria with my fucking sub-par parrying skills
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>>163157728
Which ones?
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>>163157814
I'm starting from the first one. Haven't really done them before
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>>163157898
Alright, first few will be a breeze but I'm up for it. Drop a pass and I'll ring through SRRC.
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>>163157967
Pass is 888

Ringing bell now outside first boss door
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>>163158015
Ringering
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Well I beat DS3 again. I replayed this after finally playing Bloodborne so i could compare the two myself. I'd say Bloodborne really does blow this game out of the water in just about every way but DS3 was still really fun and I'm looking forward to final DLC. It's still my least favorite Souls game overall though.

If playing through DS3 has made me realize anything, it's that I really hate bosses with multiple health bars, among this games many other flaws. That's why my 3 favorite bosses from this game are the Dancer of Boreal Valley, Dragonslayer Armor, and Champion Gundyr. Before beating it tonight, I did the 1st DLC. Ignoring the fact that Sister Friede is shameless reskin of Lady Maria, the boss was probably the most tedious fight in the game, the only satisfaction I felt from finally beating her was that knowing that I didn't have to fight her again.

Its weird how ds3 ultimately feels like step down from not only Bloodborne but from previous souls games in different ways. Oh well, that was fun while it lasted I guess. The hunt calls for me once again...
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that was ez

I'll just keep waiting at the next bonfire if you want to keep going
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>>163158225
Before I forget, don't make any dungeons with "root" yet. Those are random, next should be Central Pthumeru.
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Thanks for the help bud I'm gonna hop off for the night
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>>163159234
Ah okay, no prob ;)
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>page nine
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>>163160173
>want to play BB
>Only build I have left to try is my Amelia cosplay idea (which is just Beast's Claw/ Embrace and Chior Bell)
>Can't even fathom going through the chalice grind to get the claws, or the choice of embarking on task of once again treating Ludwig like an unenjoyable hurdle merely preventing me from my build, and doing the same Laurence, or playing the game organically without the Embrace until I can beat them myself
>Instead just lurk in /bbg/ waiting for someone to need help, the FC to roll around
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>>163158186
I didn't really feel like it's a step down from previous Souls games, but I admit I haven't played any Dark Souls game as long as BB and DeS.
Anyway it sure is a step down after Bloodborne.
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>>163160945
To regain that first time playing the game feeling.

Being bad and getting wrecked but still having a challenging fun time.

Now I just pvp and resonant bell bosses while I work on my newest guy.
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>>163161765
>Only play Bloodborne to FC and to make new builds to FC with

It's a vicious cycle i'm in but I can't stop stomping kids
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>>163160945
>amelia build

thanks for the idea i'll be stealing from you
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>>163161834
I mostly camp mergo and cathedral on lower levels. I get quite a few 2 v 1 fights this way and it's challenging and annoying.

I need to use numbing mist more often.
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wow FUCK this shit

I just lost like 500k blood echoes (NG level 80) 100k at a time in the research lab. One time I forgot my weapon was tricked and I pressed L2 to shoot something but I lunged forward with a horizontal swing and fell to my death. I come all the way back up and my blood echoes have been attached to a fucking super patient (one of the ones with the metal poles). I try to fight him and he just knocks me off the edge too
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>>163162187
Sorry? Don't forget to untrick next time.
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>>163162187
those super patients are brutal
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>>163110157
Maybe not, but your basement surely is
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>>163162187
>500k
You know nothing of loss.
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Anyone up to help kill Orphan? PSW: kosm outside the fog ~110
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>>163163256
Omw
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>>163163256
I'll come too if you guys still need help.
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>>163163332
>>163163483
I'mma ringin' my beckoning bell
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>>163163332
>>163163483

shit lol Forgot to take off that damn rune...
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Thank you both! Much appreciated.
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>>163163697
Poor little Orphan...
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>>163163867
Happy to help
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Welp I finally beat every boss. It's been fun fellows. See you again when Bloodborne 2 is released, unless there is no more doll. I'm off to play my moe games.
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>>163164171
Level-up ladies have never made a second appearance so even on the off-chance Bloodborne 2 does happen, Doll probably won't be in it.
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I prefer DeS, BB, DaS2 "go off on tangents" level design more than "everything is interconnected" DaS level design. I don't get why people love the level design in DaS over BB.
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>>163164758
I feel that BB hits the perfect middle-ground. You have Yharnam which is pretty interconnected, and then you have tangents from it and entirely separate locations like Cainhurst.

That said, I still prefer DeS's completely separate locations to the cramped labyrinth that is Lordran. Every location in DeS leaves an impression of a truly huge, impressive place and I really missed that feeling of scale in DaS.
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>>163164758
I think it's because Dark Souls feels like you're on an adventure in one little area.
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>>163109496
>>163109686
>>163111556
Healing Blood is red, Ebrietas has paleblood.
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>>163167037
Ebrietas spits red blood, when you break her head she gets covered in black blood and her tails contain greenish blood.
It's literally all but white.
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>>163167037
That's because they don't give pure blood to everyone, they mess with it somehow and it's given by blood saints.
Besides, Ebby-tan's blood is multicolor.
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is there a trick to beating pthumerian descendant that doesn't involve backstab chaining or parrying? he hits me whenever i'm close to him without fault. luckily you can dash out of the combo quickly but still.
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>>163167271
Hit him and don't get hit
If he hits you try to heal
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>>163167271
High arcane hunter tools or git gud
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>>163167271
Use the Augur to catch his boomerang and throw it back at him.
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>>163167271
For phase 1 his blindspot is your 2 o' clock. You should dodge that way and get a hit or two in in response to almost everything he does.

Phase 2 is a little more complicated but dashing to 2 o' clock will work a majority of the time.
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>>163164758
>>163165153
>>163165214
Retards.

>>163167304
>>163167372
>>163167403
Shitposts.

Coincidence? I doubt it.
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>>163167810
alright, i was going for my right with some success. problem is that he's got that attack without a tell but i guess i have to either guess when it comes or eat the damage and get the punish.
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>>163160945
You don't have to grind anything to get the claws, just reach Loran.
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>>163167959
Yeah at point-blank range he has at least one attack with very little startup. What you have to do is stay at about medium range so that you bait his wading in overhand left; close enough that he does that, but not so far that he throws the sickles. It just takes practice and familiarity.

If you want help I'll boot up. I hate that fucker so much.
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>>163168169
Doing the chalices is a grind.

And there will be a grind at some point for a Heavy or two and however many 26-7%s.
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>>163168291
You don't even have to do Pthumeru to use the Loran chalice.
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Holy shit this game is dead as fuck.
What a shame, DS3 sucks dick.
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO BROS
I GIVE UP, IT'S JUST TOO HARD. I CAN'T DO IT. I CAN'T BEAT THE ORPHAN OF KOS
I WANT TO KILL MYSELF RIGHT NOW. FUCK ME. I HATE MY LIFE.
I'LL GET HIM DOWN TO 25% AND THEN I'LL RUN OUT OF BLOOD VIALS AND DIE. FUUUUUUUCK
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>>163168189
thanks for the tips, i already beat him but it was such a disgusting fight that i felt like asking for pointers for future encounters with him.
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>>163168354
It's not though.

>>163168382
Post a password instead of whining.
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>>163168423
>It's not though.
In what sense? You won't invade people outside of PvP hotspots like Mergo's, frontier or FC.
It's pretty dead I'd say.
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>>163168414
Ah, cheers then.

>>163168423
It's a couple retards shitposting anon.
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ahh kos or the people I hate
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>>163168478
That's because BB invasions are awful. The reason you can't invade people outside of hotspots is because anyone who doesn't want to pvp can just kill the chime maiden and be completely safe.
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Where are the webms from Saturday
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>>163169707
It's among the top dumbest things about this game, up there with the healing/ammo system(which I honestly don't have too much of a problem with myself) and the fact that you can't rest at the lamp to regain vials/bullets or whatever.
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>>163169772
>the fact that you can't rest at the lamp to regain vials/bullets or whatever
That's a good thing.
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>>163169754
I think I saw some posted in the last thread
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>>163169832
Of coarse
I love going back to the hunters dream just to get stuff out of storage and then teleporting back to wherever I was. I love PS4 loading times
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>>163169967
That's what you get for being shit at the game.
There's a time for stocking materials and a time for going out and fighting enemies.
If you run out of materials when you're in a level, perhaps it's time for you to git gud. That's the reason why the HUB exists in the first place.
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>>163170040
>defending console loading times
really makes you :think:
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>>163170074
>defending casualization
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>>163170119
i too enjoy waiting to play my game
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>>163170180
I'd rather wait than play a game that cathers to shitters.
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>>163169967
What stuff from the storage do you mean?
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Anyone care to share their experience first time running Chalice Dungeons?

Loran:
>Madman looking safe to approach since he moves slow~ GYYAAAAHHH stunlock hard to parry
>The Witch that keeps spawning red spiders across the map that detect you and is guarded by 2 or 3 Wolves
>Abhorrent Beast and Loran DarkBeast shenanigans with huge HP pool

Isz
>That one room with 2 snipers and Wolves+Brainsuckers sentries

Pthumeru
>Giants randomly Lurking
>sometimes you get that RARE monster that appears once in a blue moon and have to be careful since you don't know how it's going to move
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How come bloodborne is kinda scary despite not being a horror game? It is scarier than most horror games.
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>>163171240
Nice blog
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>>163171554
what's scary about it?
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>>163172640
Not him and dont know about you, but the first time I played and went past the first lantern over the bridge, the motherfucker in the barrels made me jump so hard I tossed my controlled and cracked the l2 button.
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>>163171554
The atmosphere does it. The corpses in the sewers bugged me.
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>>163171554
It's very atmospheric.
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Looking to do some extended co-op play with the same person but I will settle for doing any area with someone.
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>>163171554
For normies I can only imagine that the game is an assault on all sensibilities. You spend 90% of it soaked in blood, trudging through blood, injecting yourself with blood; walking over bodies on bodies; enemies and especially bosses screaming at you, trying to kill you; many of them move quickly and erratically; and they all used to be people. The psychological weight of all of that is almost beyond reckoning.
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>>163173146

>That pic

Yeah fuck you too Sargeant
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>>163173391
Who?
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>>163173428
Moot
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>>163173445
Who?
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>stuck on the Orphan of Kos
>reminisce back to when I first played Demon's Souls a year or two ago, and how I gave up on it because I literally could not get past the first enemy for days
I've come so far, anons
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>>163173549
https://youtu.be/0TJrw5gwx-o
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>that feel when you're ill and you don't have a bloodsaint gf that gives you a transfusion and you're back to healthy in moments
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What outfit should I wear for a /m/ themed build?
> Cannon/Gatling
> HMLS/???
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>>163173285
For example, for me, the couple moments that really did it were:
The way Amelia screams at you throughout the fight. Whether it's anguish at what she's become, fear (whether of you or herself), blind animal rage, or some combination thereof. You as the player, if you didn't already realize that these things all used to be people, you've just witnessed the transformation and are now locked in combat with this gigantic monstrosity, and beyond that she just won't stop screaming.

Then there was the understated horror of discovering Byrgenwerth. You come through these secluded woods into the place where the sickness seems to have originated, to come upon what used to be people now nothing but moaning hostile globs, that have just been here subsisting as shadows of humanity for an indeterminate amount of time.

And last but not least, fighting Ludwig, and more than that, his boss room. He himself is this giant, twisted monstrosity that screams at you throughout the fight, evoking all the same wonder and horror as Amelia, but now you're in a room flooded ankle-deep with blood, surrounded by people that are alive, groaning in what is insurmountable, inconceivable agony for having no skin.
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>>163173146
I've just been fired and want a Co-op buddy to pass the time with, will be starting a new character tonight/tomorrow and will be 100%ing(ish) the game including story chalices. You up for that anon?
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>>163173950
Absolutely, I will be checking the thread regularly for whenever you are ready.
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>>163173803
Cainhurst pieces, dunno what for the chest. Stake Driver secondary.
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>>163154163
>summon
lol, you're quite the pro, aren't you?
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FUCK ORPHAN OF KOS I CAN'T DO IT BROS
I CAN NOT STOP CRYING RIGHT NOW FML
HOW DO I TIE A NOOSE?
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>>163173729
If this is your definition of healthy, sure.
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>>163171240
>Isz
>>That one room with 2 snipers and Wolves+Brainsuckers sentries
the one time I was forced to use a blue elixer
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>>163175692
Bruh the online function exists to be used, summon someone
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So I accidentally cheesed Amygdala on my first try by accident. Was that the honorable thing to do?
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>>163172640
It's hard and intimidating when you first play it, especially if you're new to Souls
There are also a lot of jump scares, and if you are afraid of spiders or snakes this game will make you shit yourself
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>>163176804
only honorable amy kill involves whacking her tail until she dies
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>>163176804
Story Amy is ez, the real fight is in the dungeons.
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>>163176891
Which was what I did. She was doing those insane fucking attack so I ran into her legs and I discovered that she could only fucking jump and if I didn't move, the attack won't hit me. And since I reached that phase with 10+ vial, I could heal in the rare occurrence that it did. Felt cheesy mang.
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>>163177019
I killed Amygdala fairly on my first try. Ever since I just cheese it because I can't be bothered to care. I think you should at least kill it fairly once
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>>163177158
She is already dead. Maybe in the Chalice or another run.
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which one is better on a 50str/25skl build with saw spear?
>2x HAs with Attack up secondary, 1x 27.2% physical
>1x HAs with Attack up secondary, 2x 27.2% physical
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>>163158186
Considering the whole game was pretty much just "hey guys, remember how we made DaS1? You liked that, right? Well here it is again!" they should have just remastered DaS1 and saved some time, comfy 'Burg PvP at 60fps in 1080p would be nice.
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>>163178650
1 abyssal
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>>163178650
The latter. Scaling doesn't exactly stack well so only one is needed.
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If it was up to you, what new covenants would you put in a sequel?
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>>163178879
>>163178930
that's a relief
I wont have to grind another HA out
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>>163178997
Old Hunters

Mensis

Choir

Byrgenwerth

Healing Church
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>>163178997
Rom fanclub.
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>>163170040
The problem is that if you use items while PvPing, you either have to die to regain it, or go back and forth from the hub.
The fuck does it have to do with "lol git gud XDD"?
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>>163178997
pthumerian transformation
please give pyromancies
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>>163179637
In this case the problem is the fact that items don't refill after an invasion, not the lanterns.
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>>163178997
>Mensis
>makes Hunter Tools use less bullets

>Old One transformation rune
>increases frenzy resist and combines with a weapon for an Old One style moveset

>Shadow of Yharnam
>increases poison resistance

>Pthumerian transformation rune
>increases rally potential and gets a different moveset for HMPH style swords
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>>163179264
All of these, but I have a few of my own.

>Powder Kegs (beast protectors)
>Kinhunter
>Descendants (something something fishing hamlet surviors)
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How do I kill the hunter in the Grand Cathedral?
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>>163181028
I got him by charging up my tricked hunter axe R2 as he was walking towards me. I hit him almost every time, and he doesn't shoot usually unless he just dodged or is getting up so I just backed off after every hit

I heard it works with other long-range melee weapons too
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>>163181028
git gud

Parry the fuck out of him
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>>163181028
Parry him, don't get parried, don't get hit by numbing mist, be patient, use poison knives or wait he lose live for the chikage if you want safer strategies, go to the stairs if you want him to miss more.
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what the fuck is the point of making djura friendly if he becomes hostile again the second you defend yourself from one of the beastmen in Old Yharnam?
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Okay /bbg/ I need your advice. Pic related is my planned PvP build. But I'm also role-playing as a Diablo 2 necromancer as close as i possibly can...
>1/2
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>>163181289
>>163181303
>parry him
>miss one parry and start over
>implying you didn't cheese him when it still worked
kys yourself
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>>163181451
I started playing bloodborne 3 weeks ago and fully patched, I defeated him with the reiter on my skill build, and then with the evelyn + chikage on a new blood build. It took 5-6 tries each though, and easier with reiter than chikage.
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>>163181435
Arc skill is bad. If you want to be a neceomancer go str50 arc 25 and use the wheel. Literally enshrouded in souls of the dead, which are similarly fired by executioner gloves. Also use the cursed head from fishing village.
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>>163181451
I've killed him twice, both without cheesing. Latest one. Wasn't the most glamorous fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYAUl_8Vhf4
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Why is it that hunters are more dangerous than most bosses?
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>>163181435
>30 Vit
>6 Blt
>Skl/Arc

Get 40-50 Vit. If you're trying to use non-convertable Skill weapons on an Arc build go 50/50 instead. Or 50/20 for Exe Gloves, it won't do good damage but it'll stagger fine.
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>>163181435
I posted the wrong image, I've settled on BL98, with a few extra points strewn about.
Pic related is my loadout, plus a hunter pistol for parrying and major use of the hunter tools that fit the theme (gloves, brew, etc.). Not decided on my armour yet.
The BoM will be a rapid poison Gemmed lost variant, and I'll most likely be using Uncanny BB as you can get it mid game.

Any constructive criticism for my roleplay PvP build?
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>>163181941
They can do anything you can, use the same weapons, spells, items, dash and roll and everthing.
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>>163181969
>>163181854
Yeah sorry I took so long with my second reply, I'm going for a themed roleplay build, not a minmaxed one.
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>>163182390
Go 50/12/11/50/5/20 instead, puts you right at 98. You can take some points off Vit and put em somewhere else, just don't go below 40. Weapon damage matters more than Hunter Tool damage. 11 Strength for the Loch Shield.
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Vicar amelia is kicking my ass. Anyone willing to give me a hand?
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>>163183398
I summoned a bot to tank and beat her on my first try.
This is my first playthrough and the only times I've struggled so far was against hunters and Rom. Will the game get significantly harder?
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>>163183398
Where you ringing and what pass?
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>>163183648
Ringing at cathedral ward password Frank.
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>>163183581
Main game not really. DLC and further into the dungeons is the toughest parts.
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So what's whole deal with Kos, the Orphan, and the Fishing Hamlet?

It's made out to be some big secret, but I'm not even sure what's even trying to be hidden.
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The One Reborn is really an awesome fight, it's a shame it is so easy

Are there any cool videos out there showing someone fighting him all risky and making the fight look cinematic and hard? Maybe by being under-leveled, not killing the spellcasters, and mixing up the movesets / camera lock-ons?
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>>163183739
Frank with or without the period?
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>>163184150
Without
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>>163183581
if you want the game to be challenging, then don't fucking summon

summons are there for when you absolutely cannot handle the boss in a fair 1v1 fight. You are only cheating yourself out of having challenging and rewarding boss battles by using summons
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>>163184231
Doesn't seem to be working. You're at the cathedral ward lamp, yes?
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>>163184103
It's still pretty easy on BL4 if you don't get hit more than twice without healing. Maybe without BB Pellets+Papers it would be kinda difficult.
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>>163184334
Yep. What's the max summon count?
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>>163184461
2 summons are max I think.
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>>163184562
I've only got one summon now.
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>>163181328
>Promise to spare the beasts
>Break your promise almost immediately
>Act confused about it on 4chan

You are dumber than fuck.
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>>163183805
gehrman and maria killed the entire town to get to kos i think and they both regret it or something
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>>163184348
It would look cool if the player had a huge stamina bar + a weak weapon and was always comboing until dodging at the last possible nanosecond, for every one of The One Reborn's attacks.
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>>163183805
Remember when Micolash said 'Ahh Kos, or some say Kosm...do you hear our prayers? As you once did for the Vacuous Rom...grant us eyes'?

Kos was the turning point for Byrgenwerth, an encounter with the Eldritch Truth, the Truth of alien beings on higher planes, the Truth of evolution, aspiration to a greater existence. One day, the corpse of a Great One washes up on the Hamlet beach, and villagers begin to worship her and farm her parasites. When Byrgenwerth got wind of this, they took the first hunters, Gehrman and Maria being among them, and massacred the villagers, rummaging around inside their skulls for evidence of 'eyes on the inside'. They found them, too, and they desecrated Kos' corpse for forbidden knowledge. It's believed they took an umbilical cord from her, and her child.

This cosmic sin caused Kos, or her Orphan more likely, to curse the hunters who killed the villagers and helped desecrate Kos to an inescapable bloodlust and never-ending hell inside the Hunter's Nightmare. It was shortly after this, Byrgenwerth was split asunder, and Laurence founded the Healing Church.

The Fishing Hamlet is the turning point for the whole story of the game. It began in the Labyrinths, kicked off in the Hamlet, and was ended in the Nightmare.
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Was Kos a benevolent entity?
The way everyone who worships her refers to her seems to me like there's some kind of loving relationship, plus how they all call her Mother Kos.
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>>163184723
Kos was already dead. Gehrman killed Orphan I think

Why are all the people of the hamlet now fish monsters?
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Reminder that Moon Presence is the good guy. He just wants to cleanse the abominable beast scourge that his fellow Great Ones have allowed to infect Yharnam
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Sup /bbg/? I haven't played Bloodborne since I beat it when it came out. Looking to play again, what's a good arcane build, since it's gotten buffed since I played it last.

Thanks
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>>163185326
To add to your question about hamlet people:
Why are hamlet people and the Research Hall patients in the Nightmare at all? They're victims, aren't they? Are the fish people there specifically to torture hunters and get their revenge?
And what about the patience? Did the entire Research Hall fall into the Nightmare like School of Mensis did?
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>>163185162
Well, she was dead when they washed up. Just a corpse. The villagers probably perceived her and the numerous parasites within her as a bounty, so they worshipped her.

>>163185326
No, they, along with the other old hunters, massacred the villagers for Byrgenwerth.

And I think the parasites they farmed transformed them, part of why Burgertownwanted to experiment on them.
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>>163185162
Great Ones are sympathetic in spirit. They are just trying to help us the way they can but since they are incomprehensible it doesn't work well.

Kos granted eyes to Rom.

Rom is hiding the ritual because it's retard and believe that true enlightenment need not be shared.

Mergo tried to ascend Mensis but fucked with their brains in the process.

Moon Presence wants you to halt the source of the spreading scourge of beasts because it was beckoned by Laurence to do so but traps Gehrman in the dream to be it's surrogate child.
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>>163179787
Nah, that wouldn't make sense, that way you could just get to a boss, having wasted all your vials and stuff, invade some idiot and win, then face the boss with all your shit refilled.
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Post webms
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I kinda wanna get this game but I dunno about justifying an entire console for it.

The movement is interesting, as I think hopping around looks better than rolling, but how does the gameplay hold up to souls?
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>>163186826
A idiot with two passworded friends that can kill you in two swings and that pulls the plug when one of then dies, all the while you are less prepared to face them having just gone through the whole level with death meaning respawning at the lamp.
The way it is now we have to use a bolt hunter mark, go to the dream and back with two loading screens in between. Truly a wonderful mechanic.
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>>163184657
Its almost like agreeing with him is a dumb idea and should be sent hurdling off the top of the church right away
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>>163187389
I'm not arguing against that, I'm just saying that getting a refill for winning an invasion is stupid. The bonfire resting thing would work much better.
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>>163187192
I bought the console for bloodborne alone and I completely felt like It was worth it. Many anons here are in the game boat. The gameplay is top tier, better than souls game imo but its honestly up to preference.
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>>163187085
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>>163187587
Failing on a invasion brings you back to the lantern with the enemies restored and yet, it doesn't refill your stuff, the same with hunter marks. The bonfire thing is whatever for me but I agree that sucessful invasions should not refill your itens.
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how good is ATK vs open foes UP versus ATK up on a heavy abyssal gem?
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>>163187085
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I need me some help at ludwig he's tearing my beast cutter up.

Password is bad
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>>163188561
Gimme a minute and I'll be there.
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>>163188561
Give me about 2 minutes and I'll be there
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>>163188660
>>163188621
I'm at fog door
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do you guys frequent other FC's ? i went to a fb one with mostly 140's and got 2 shoted almost allways, i love fighting you guys, but saturdays are not a good day for me
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>>163188814
Ringan. Took me a sec to find a character that wasn't at the beginning of NG+.
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>>163185789
50 in arc if you dont want to use tools that much
70 if you want to do heavy damage with tools
45-50 vit is good for CRF dungeon grinding and pvp
minimal requirement in str and skil for the weapons you want to use
chose a BL cap and work arround it
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>>163188660
>>163188621
Thanks for the help boyos.
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>>163185113
They worshipped Kos before she died, and she provided them with the parasites.
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how do you guys get good with the pick ? i tought it was god like but its moveset is like the axe
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on the bridge with the turret guns in the hunter's nightmare, there's a villager standing on top of a pressure plate with a turret pointed right at him. He refuses the step off that plate because the turret will fire and kill him if he does. This is something really neat i just noticed after like 10 playthroughs
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>>163189497
i asumed it was like a suicide booby trap, if you attack him while he is hiding the button by standing on it you trigger it
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>>163189576
ah right, that makes more sense
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>>163189736
old blood is one hell of a drug
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Anyone fancy helping me out with maria and failures. Im Bl 68
At Failures fog now, pass is bbg
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>>163189384
the axe has a great moveset, especially two handed
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>>163189269
No problem!
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>>163190086
i can never hit with either of the vertical swings, are you supesed to lock on on the last posible frame to land those ?
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How do I fight the humanoid trio near the 2nd Lateran in Yaharghu? I'm doing virtually no damage andeven one easily kills me. This game was a breeze until this.
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>>163190386
Unequip all light sources (torch, hand lantern), drink a blue elixir and walk casually into the chapel, backstab naked beastclaw boyo, then try and draw them back outside the chapel steps, use the environment to your advantage.
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>>163190386
you can pull a visceral on the one on the center on the room by being sneaky, having a quick weapon really helps, you van also cheese the fight by leading them out of their area, then provoking only one with gunfire
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>>163190386
Visceral the first one, then alternate between retreating and hitting that one. Even if you die later, hunters don't respawn.

You can also run and open the shortcut on the left (exitting) the chapel so you don't have to fight them.
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>>163187085
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>>163190386
Run into the room to get them to follow you, then run back to the 2nd lamp and as soon as you enter go to the right. Their pathfinding usually gets them stuck in the entrance, and you can hit them from the wall. Sometimes one will run through instead of getting stuck but it'll at least be a 1v1.
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>>163190386
Same guy. Still stuck. Claw guy is down but the other two still won't die as they take very little damage. I've 25/25 in STR/SKILL. Are my stats the problem?
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>>163191745
if you have low hp that could be it, what weapon are you using ?
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>>163191919
30 VIT. +7 Ludwig
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>>163192073
you can allways cheese them with the untricked r2 hen they give you the chance,
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>>163192073
>Ludwig
Found your problem.

That aside, try kiting them and focus on one at a time.
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>>163187530
>Hurdling
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>>163188975
bump ?
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Why DID we kill Rom?
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>>163193490
Don't we kill everything because is not a vanilla human?
Isn't that the basic premise of a hunter? Kill all the inhuman freaks?

If it's not human then probably is conspiring one way or another against humans, kill them all for safety.
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there should've been a hunter tool that inflicts frenzy
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>>163193490
Killing Rom gives us a straight shot at getting to Nightmare of Mensis and stopping the spreading beast plague, Rom hid the ritual from prying eyes and with her gone, nothing stands in our way.

But of course, by that point, it doesn't really matter, as is the tragic nature of the game.
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>>163194328
Bloodletter?
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>>163194328
Rapid poison is basically the same thing, it just doesn't have the delayed build up.
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>>163194328
Would be too strong in pvp.
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Total shitter here

why not just level every stat to soft cap?
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>>163194996
PVP meta level restrictions are literally the only reason not to
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>>163194996
There are online level ranges, if you go to level 200+ you'll only randomly meet with other level 200+ which is fine, but probably no one from here.
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So i'm at a crossroads with my build.

Vit: 30
End: 15
Str: 50
Ski: 9 or 10
Arc/Blt: 7-9

He's in the 70s but what do I do now.

Put points into blood for bloodletter?
Arcane for Wheel/magic gemmed beast cutter?
Or just soft cap skill and use strength weapons/gems.

I'm at a point where I havent' farmed gems yet.
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>>163195150
Bring skill to 25.
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>>163195150
>Put points into blood for bloodletter?
You won't be able to get 50 BLT, and transformed scales only with BLT not STR.

Going quality with some skill is probably better, besides more vitality.
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>>163195072
>>163195120
so if im into solo pve content only then im good

is there any point into investing into a stat beyond softcap?
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>>163195789
leveling arcane to max isn't bad if you want to use hunter tools 2 da max
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>>163195789
You can still summon anyone if you're using a password, so you can summon people from here for co-op, but no PVP.

You get very diminishing returns after 50 in strength and skill, I think goes the same for Bloodtinge. 99 arc is for squeezing damage out of hunter tools, not for damage out of elemental weapons.

You get absurdly diminished returns in Endurance after 40, but all you ever really need 20end at maximum, unless you just want to spam R1 forever.
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>>163195879
>>163196216

ok thanks anons
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>>163195260
>>163195404

skill/vitality it is.

I want to make a good arcane build but too much farming for my tastes.
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What hair goes well with pic related?
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The great ones are sympathetic in spirit. That's why Amygdala tries to kill you. He's actually just trying to give you a big hug
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>>163197987
Anything that has a ponytail.
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So is the Bloodborne PVP scene still alive?

Just hit level 120 and I know that's the "meta" max level for PVP but so far haven't encountered a single invasion in the current game and haven't seen any summons.

I'd like to PVP but is it even a thing anymore?
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I beat chalice abhorrent beast, but had to go to Ludwig's Holy Meme to do it. Truly its moveset is more complete than the Holy Moonlight Sword
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>>163198421
It's still alive. Go to areas with bell maidens, like Nightmare Frontier and Mergo's Loft (Middle). That's where most of the PvPers hang about outside of organized events like fight clubs.
You can also try regular invasions in the DLC areas, or call for an improptu FC in the thread.
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>>163198530
Is that the only point of the bell maidens? To signal that PVP is allowed in an area?
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Ringing at the entrance to the OoK fight, password is kosm
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>>163198907
Not really. The bell maidens are automatically spawned in the Frontier and Mensis, not necessarily to signal that PVP is allowed, but just to encourage more invasions in those areas in general.
You can PVP anywhere, but you'd have to go through the effort of ringing your own sinster bell to spawn a maiden, and hope that you can invade someone else. It's perfectly fine for normal invasions, but if you're looking for duels, most people will be at either Frontier or Mensis.
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Can someone please post the away away pic?
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>>163199483
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>>163199541
Meant the real close up of the hunters face, cheers though.
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>>163199483
YOU PLAGUE RIDDEN RAT
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>>163198947
Anyone?
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>>163200175
Cheers.
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>>163200393
Sure, I'll help. Be with you in a moment, booting up.
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>>163200467
Thanks mang
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>>163181028
>>163181451
I beat him my first try, didn't even know he was infamous over here.
It's literally abusing AI and knowing how to space.
Have a weapon with thrusting attack and you'll have plenty of health vials to burn through the few times he hits you
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>>163200526
Alright, ringing at the fog, anon.
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>>163200813
I've never actually done this before; how long does it usually take to connect?
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>>163200797
Crowsteel's infamous everywhere because he's so ridiculously powerful and fights differently to other AI hunters.
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>>163199483
>>163199541
>>163200175
YOU ARE NOT WANTED 'ERE
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>>163187085
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>>163187085
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>>163201554
>YOU! ARE NOT WANTED 'ERE
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i just made a root FRC isz, anybody want to go spelunking? ill be ringing with password iszbbg
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>>163202492
What's the glyph, friend?
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>>163202791
h4m8b4eu
I'm still creeping about on layer one
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>>163202905
Neat, I'll start ringing at the first lamp
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>>163201997
Is this from last saturday?
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>>163203112
it's from the FC a couple days ago, yeah
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What's my next step dudes?
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>>163203072
I'm not getting anything, should I take the password off?
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>>163203565
I had the password as bbgisz instead of iszbbg. Ringing now with the correct password.
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>>163203564
Level skill
Level vit
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first layer: literally nothing
ringing again at second layer lamp
also good to see you again segalt
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>>163203995
Sorry about that. Ringing at the second layer as well, anon.
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Kek, got a bit careless there. Plant arrows in my brain, Kos, and cleanse me of my beastly idiocy.
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>>163204698
ooh dang that queen bee killer depleted my vials, restocking ringing again
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I don't want to be alone anymore
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N E W THREAD
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>>163205675
>>163205675
>>163205675
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>>163203905
He's sexy just as he is.
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Dear oh dear
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