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Fuck you edition.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX?
Yes of course!


>I just started, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using a referral link.

If you're too lazy to make a spare account, just use this link:
http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=310b178d-f7c4-4a5f-b357-ef84bb63d764&action=buddy

or beg for one in the thread.


Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.


Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy

Future:
Dec 14th-25th everyone will get a daily christmas gift from ccp! only redeemable for 24 hours per item.

Past:
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Sep 12: CSM 11 first summit
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 26: AT prizes announced (blood raider variations)
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 18: Billboards submissions open
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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gallente is cuckrace
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>army
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thanks for deleting your first post so I could spread the truth about gallente further, bro
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>there are unironic welfare queens playing this game
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daily reminder that fozzie did nothing wrong and OP is a faggot
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>>162528969
>still being this butthurt
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>>162529118
>implying I claim welfare when I have a degree

Ever think that maybe the stereotype fed by a liberal media could be incorrect?
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>>162529158
>still being this butthurt
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>>162529260
is this picture autism or schizoid personality disorder or both
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>>162529260
O-oh.
Is this from eog?
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>>162529260
Why would you continue replying without saying anything to counter my last reply?

>>162529501
It's /R9K/, chances are a healthy helping of both, with some more issues thrown in.
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>>162529594
Because I don't care what your reply is you frogposting turbosperg
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>>162529632
Have a good day then bud, I hope life turns out okay for you.
Chances are from this interaction, it won't, but I still hope it does.
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>>162529720
k
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>be alpha
>be amarr
>ships look pretty, loving the laser aesthetic
>hear amarr is basically shit for alpha characters
Help
send help please I live in Jita
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>>162530396
Just go Omega, Amarr have some of the best big ships
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>>162530678
>tfw she squirts all over the place
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>>162530678
I need the source video of this
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>>162528741
hmm...i was looking for that image .

also, if you need a referral link newbis, here is another if you want one other then op's
http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=7759338f-91aa-4573-84e1-fb2c8e3f6737&action=buddy
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>>162532631
>spreading malware
>2016

tisk tisk!
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>>162532694
...what...
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>>162532708
you literally just hacked my computer bitch!
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>>162532773
well atleast i didn't hack your face..whats even going on...beside my meds having kicked in.
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>Amarr have some of the best big ships
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>muh level 4s
>muh cap stability
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>7 lows
>I know I'll shield tank it
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>>162537226
blobber pls
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oneiros
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jesus 10% of ships in this game look like they were deliberately trying to make it look as ugly as possible
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>>162540902
More like 20%
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Now that it's been confirmed that the stabber is shit with ACs why aren't you flying beams with it?
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>now
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>quad light beam lasers
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coming back to the game after having not touched it for 6 months

what the fuck should I even do.
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>>162543628
Give me all your money.
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What do you eat while you mine for your CEO's Titan /eog/? I like pic related with some extra butter on top
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>>162544660
>K-space
lmaoing at your life
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>wh
>pvp
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>>162528741
havent hung in the threads or played for a long while. Just saw an article saying CCP are thinking of selling off Eve Online?
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What are those npc miners in belts for? They weren't around when i used to play.
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>>162548175
Killing, you kill them for lumps of extra loot.
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>>162548175
fun I guess. you can shoot them then they hotdrop you
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>>162548463
Is it just ore?
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>>162548463
The barges ar shit. You only want the hauler.
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Should I rush cruisers and battle cruisers or are destroyers fine for a noob?
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>>162537453
wew lad
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>>162548772
There's a hauler?
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>>162549340
Yes, there are barges, haulers and combat ships. They can be combat probed, they show up on dscan with a small diamond icon before the name XX's faction Mastodon (for example.) Add them to your overview in the settings.

Btw the npc DSTs have the same warpstab bonus as the real ones lol, so double scram or faction point.
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>>162544660
I hope you're getting something in return for that.
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>>162549553
Would a gank catalyst with 2 scrams do it?
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>>162549669
you will die. you can't do these things in fun ships
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>>162549709
Yeah but it's a catalyst so it's not a problem if it dies so long as it can kill the hauler before it does.
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>>162549923
you probably won't, fun is not allowed
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>>162549596
He's gonna bridge us around once he gets a Titan. We're just mining tons of ore to get everyone with the skills to fly one into a super.
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>>162550161
lol
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>>162549669
probably not before the help shows up and the help would fucking nail a catalyst. For real the stuff that warps in is no joke, full fleets of either frigs or cruisers or bigger with full EWAR and Logi. If you are in highsec it's supposed to be less retarded but I had a frig fleet warp in on my hurricane in 0.0 and kill it, mostly because of the neuting. I still killed the hauler and got a skin out of it though.
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>>162550161
don't do this. why would you give free stuff to people who have bought some skill books?
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oneiros
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Are lvl4 missions profitable for a newbro? I keep reading they are better than mining or exploring, but those posts are usually years old.
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>>162552007
Yes
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>>162552007
no
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>>162550845
So our corp gets stronger. We're paying rent at the moment, if we have supers we can join another alliance and don't have to pay LadyScarlet.
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>neuts and webs aren't ewar
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>>162552234
But you do realize once your CEO cracks under the pressure of expectation when you're in a real null alliance, he'll just take all the shinies and leave you to rot. So really, you're getting fuck all in return, you are saving him the isk while getting nothing for it. Anyone with a titan would bridge you if you're in their alliance, regardless of whether or not you helped build it.
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>>162552363
they dont affect electronics in any way so no they arent ewar
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>>162552873
>it's not ewar even though ewar ships get s bonus to ewar which are neuts and webs
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>>162552873
>TPs don't affect electronics therefore aren't ewar
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>infinite blueprint
>5400 runs

what
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>>162552007
As an alpha you would make more Isk/h belt ratting in a destroyer in nullsec. With a low SP omega account blitzing L3 missions would probably be better than running L4s.
L4 missions only really become worth running once you can fly a BS/T3/HAC with half decent skills and even then they're not that great compared to other stuff you could do with the SP invested.

To make decent Isk with missions requires a shitload of min maxing and very specialized setups. If you can't blitz them and fly a BS with low SP you'd only make a couple million an hour.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1knVqZEH8qFY0eT44nMEFwcKd3t4PbgcZeuv58SVUxsI/pub#h.1y810tw
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>>162553336
I think that means you can only make that much at one time
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can someone explain the economy aspect of this game? i've only played about 20 minutes or so in the past, and i understand this game isn't about combat, so is the goal to have the most dosh in your bank account?
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>>162553617
no, the goal of the game is to do whatever you feel like. you can make money your goal if you like if you're an autist
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>>162553592
oh just saw that copie has "runs remaining" and orignials "max runs"

thanks, still confusing
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>>162553617
It's a society simulation
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>>162553617
How do you mean combat exactly? PvP is a core aspect of Eve, it's what drives most of the industry/economy.
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>>162553089
those ewar ships also get bonuses to the actual ewar related to their race

>>162553282
signatures are obviously electronics related
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webs are tackle not ewar
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>karmafleet hasnt evaluated my application from last night yet
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>>162553617
>miners mine minerals from asteroids
>some minerals are only found in nullsec
>industrialists buy tech 1 blueprints from NPCs
>tech 1 ships and modules get built with minerals using blueprints
>nullsec/lowsec people run structures that mine moon minerals
>industrialists invent tech 2 blueprint copies
>tech 2 ships and modules get built with minerals + materials made from moongoo
>wormhole dwellers supply materials for tech3
>industrialists invent tech 3 blueprint copies
>industrialists build tech 3
>market jews trade
>space truckers haul
>everyone else PVPs and blow up ship causing demand
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>>162555256
Tackle is not a category merely a player derived moniker
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>>162555202
>signatures are obviously electronics related
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Except they're not
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>>162555978
stiletto is my favourite ewar ship, look at all those ewar bonuses
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>>162555604
>want to get out of my shitty dead end corp
>most of the alternatives are affiliated with reddit or SA
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>put autocannons and plates on a ship
>it has now zero signature
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>>162556246
Stilleto doesn't get ewar bobuses
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>>162556293
>"if you make a reddit account just to join we'll know"
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>>162556246
5% bonus to Warp Scrambler and Warp Disruptor optimal range

80% reduction in Propulsion Jamming systems activation cost

Looks pretty electronic to me
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>>162556529
looks like propulsion jamming to me, not ewar
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>5% to warp scrambled and warp disruption strength per level
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neut and web bonii were only added to ships because TDs and TPs sucked ass compared to SDs and ECM

neuts and webs are still not ewar
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>>162556574
What is jamming?
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>>162556867
propulsion jamming? it's a thing everyone has to use in all forms of pvp and is not related to ewar at all
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>>162556908
The fucking icon for ewar category is point.
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>>162556447
>wanting to be affiliated with them
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My goal in this game is to become part of Hotline K162.
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>>162557259
gaaaaay
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>he actually joined a nullblob fest guild where he is gonna be treated like cattle
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>>162557171
yeah they should probably change that
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Newbro here.
If I join FW as Caldari, spend some time fighting and then leave FW, will I be able to access Gallente systems, or will I get hunted there by police like a fuckboy?

If I join some pirate corp and attack some ships in low sec for no reason, will I still be able to go to highsec or will CONCORD fuck me?

Can I earn ISK in FW solo after a couple of days of getting educated, or should I just join a corp? I'm autisctic and I don't like joining communities if I can't offer anything (e.g. my skills)
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>>162557337
You'll be gay too after you get fucked by The Clown Car :^)
>implying you are not a faggot already
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>>162557830
gaaaaayer
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>>162557686
>will I get hunted there by police like a fuckboy?

some very weak NPCs will spawn where you go and attack you if you aren't just travelling through, yes. that is if your standings are low enough, which they might not be

>If I join some pirate corp and attack some ships in low sec for no reason, will I still be able to go to highsec or will CONCORD fuck me?

you only get attacked by concord when you have a criminal timer. being in highsec with bad security status means you get attacked by the police, which are like the rats you get from bad faction standings except they are more likely to tackle you. you can pay to fix your sec status though

>Can I earn ISK in FW solo after a couple of days of getting educated, or should I just join a corp? I'm autisctic and I don't like joining communities if I can't offer anything (e.g. my skills)

I don't know, but join a corp anyway
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>>162558001
thanks
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>>162556447
Just join one of the non reddit corps if you want to get into TEST. The same works for GSF, Karmafleet isn't the only corp that recruits pretty much everyone.
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>>162557686
You will not have anything to offer besides being a grunt for a couple of months, might as well join a corp asap for quick profits.
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sergaljerk
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>>162555658
sounds like a good breakdown of it all
>>162554507
i wasn't aware you could loot players in pvp
>>162553790
virtual shekels is the game of asspies but i could get down with it
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What's the best corp for me? I'm interested in Pandemic Horde or Karmafleet and maybe Brave.

I'm in EU timezone and I'd like to keep my options open, so if I want to do some missions or mining or wormhole exploring or whatever it won't be a problem.
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>>162557686
>Can I earn ISK in FW solo after a couple of days of getting educated, or should I just join a corp? I'm autisctic and I don't like joining communities if I can't offer anything (e.g. my skills)
There are some shit tier FW blobber corps that recruit anyone with a pulse and spam invites in local. Even joining something like them is better than being in NPC corps because some jew will sell fitted ships on corp contracts so you don't have to fly to Jita and dodge gatecamps all the time.

You'll learn more in one of the better corps though. I'd check Zkillboard for corps active in your TZ and see if they recruit new players or have some feeder corp.

>>162560389
If you just want to make Isk I'd say Karmafleet is the best option. BRAVE is very casual and full of people that have no desire to get good at EVE. PH is probably the best corp if you want to fly in fleets all day.
Joining any of them means you won't be able to run missions in high sec.
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>>162560389
Goonswarm :^)
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I am still upset this is /eog/ and not /eveg/
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I'm planning to solo C2 WHs in a Gnosis, what stats would I need to clear and survive those semi-comfortably? Minmatar alpha at the moment.
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If I blow up in a Tengu, is it going to jew me out of a caldari subsystem skills or will it take a subsystem randomly out of all races? Wouldnt mind training all the others to lvl 1 to get some skillpoint safety.
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>Make 11m an hour in high sec mining semi-afk
>Decide to make the big bucks
>Spend 20mil on fit for Venture to GAS HUFF YA!
>Spend one day learning about WH and scanning
>Spend half a day scanning
>9/10 sites are relic sites or other shit
>Scanning is the biggest piece of fucking shit in the game
>Finally get one
>It's about to collapse
>Don't care waited to long for this fucking thing
>Wormhole closes

Never fall for the gas bullshit. There are only 2 ways to make a lot of isk in this game, scamming and trading, PERIOD. Think you'll ever afford a Titan by mining or exploration? LOL. CCP says go fuck yourself.
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>20M venture
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>>162561774
Are you that retard from yesterday? Jesus Christ.
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>Find two citadels unanchoring in high sec space
>Timers show ~4 hours
>Camp out for 4 hours, to try to ninja them
>Timers turn into vulnerability timers
>Look up what I'm doing wrong
>>Please note that the timer visible on the structure indicates its normal vulnerability cycle, not the unanchoring process, as that timer is not supposed to be known.
>mfw

I stayed up until 6AM for nothing.
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why do we not have a 4chan corp
i want to get out of reddit
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>>162561774
11m in highsec? May I ask what are you mining and what fit are you running?
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>>162562365
you sound autistic enough to start one
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join tengoo
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>>162558905
But then you would be in TEST. Why would you want to do that to yourself?
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>>162561774
>11m an hour in high sec
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>>162562380
Plagio, Retriever, Strip Miner x2.

By the time you are done scanning and finding and searching for gas bullshit you could have already made 22m ISK.
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>>162561774
Are you mining with civilian beams what the fuck
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>>162562481
if i wasnt a newbro, and had a decent amount of autist to take some nullspace or Wspace then i would
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>>162563034
>It takes him two hours to scan gas

Considering that you can fly a barge, you're not an alpha. Get yourself a Covops to scan with. And if you're really ballsy, take that retriever into the wormhole and mine ABC until you're full or caught.
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>People willingly join the gigantic nullblob alliances/corps that don't give a shit about the individual pilots unless you can fly a capital
I admit I've never actually been in a corp with over 100 people, so I might be a bit judgmental, but I just don't see the appeal at all.
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>10+ gas sites in 3 systems
>finally found 2 guristas shit
>lost 5 million in wormhole after finally finding non sleeper data/relic site
Fug.Got my ass blasted at 1km while I'm stumbling to find my safe bookmark.
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>>162562365
There's several small, insignificant ones.
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>>162561418
maybe this helps senpai
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17cNu8hxqJKqkkPnhDlIuJY-IT6ps7kTNCd3BEz0Bvqs/pubhtml#
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>Get all the shit I need
>Spend days learning scanning and WH
>Scan down a site
>Enter wormhole
>Have to scan down another site

Hey fuck this shit 100%
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>>162563380
but you get to be THE BEST AND NOONE CAN FUCK WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE BIG AND POWERFUL AND STRONG AND DADDY WILL LOVE YOU WOW
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>I probed an eol wormhole

everyone sell your prospects this is bullshit
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>>162563859
scanning is easier when you have high skills and good equipment
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>>162564040
Bullshit. You just have to be not retarded
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>>162563678
Maybe its time to unite the 4chan people under a single flag.
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>>162564093
everything is easier with job experience, duh. But skills help too.
When I was just starting out scanning sites was a fucking pain.
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>>162563065
Strip Miners, Plagio.
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>>162564262
round them all up and make an alliance
then we can go get some space for ourselves
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So you have a countdown to find the gas AND mine it until the sleepers come? 15 minutes?
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>>162565002
once you warp into the gas site you have 15 minutes until the sleepers show up
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>Look at Rookie Chat
>"How do I save the game?"

Just fucking end me.
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>>162563951
>"wormhole reaching the end"
>cool! Im good
>wormhole dissapears
>stuck in another low sec region
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>>162565184
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>>162565141
So I'm """""""SAFE""""""" until I get into the gas site?
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>deliberately entering eol wh
>omg it collapsed this game sucks
You are fucking retarded
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>warp in low sec in Ibis
>see gate camp
>maybe they'll let me through
>wrecks.webm
why tho
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>>162565358
you are never really save in EVE if you are not docked senpai
other than safe spots in deadspace fuckwhere
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>>162565457
Why not. You can be a dirty scout for someone. Better to kill you and not let you sit nearby, feeding intel.
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>>162565457
It just happens.
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>picked up Barghest for L4 blitzing before I quit playing for a few months
>remember it being pretty ok/fun
>resub after Alpha status baited me back in
>Barghest is shit, gets raped to death if theres more than three ships on field

Did they nerf this thing or something? Why the hell is it so shit now?


>inb4 buy a Mach
My Projectile skills are shit because >Minmatar
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buy a mach
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>>162565831
Buy a Raven?
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>minmatar
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>>162565831
TENGU
E
N
G
U
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>>162566108
>eve online general shitposting image v1.5
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What makes the most ISK? Gas huffing, relic, or data sites?
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>>162566379
Relics if you're lucky tbqh
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>>162566379
trading shit sitting in a station. Just like every other MMO
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>>162566304
How is the Tengu for L4s? I can fly one but I never thought to do L4s with it.
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>Unironically mining
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>>162566467
How does that go? Put up buy order then put up sell order?
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Hey guys lets play the mining bingo
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>>162566765
is this what CODE. does when not suiciding and hauling in red frog?
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>skill books needed to fly a rorq are more expensive than the damn ship

Nigga what
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>>162567042
The fuck are you doing, buying them in trade hubs?

Go to a school like everybody else.
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>>162566578
>>162566765
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>code
>hauling
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>>162566765
>tfw I did one of these
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>look at karmafleet join application
>low effort applications will be rejected...

It says so in very big letters.
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>>162566740
>place buy order on item
>when you start getting stuff place sell order
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>>162567564
Don't forget doing missions for trade hub station owners, so as to reduce the tax to as little as possible
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>>162567105
what you mean
>>
How strong are these Autothysian Lancers? Is there any point at all to killing them?
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>multiboxing
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>>162568243
they're renamed seekers aren't they? if so, just ignore
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>come back after a long break
>game is f2p

Yep, not playing this garbage anymore. Why the fuck would they make it f2p? Fucking pieces of shit. This was the only game I liked, I hate 2016
>>
>>162568665
>being this autistic
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>>162568665
>not wanting more losers to shoot at
?????
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>>162568153
Some people will take advantage of less knowing and lazy people and list books in trade hubs for higher than they actually cost, sometimes 100x more.

Look for stations that are labeled 'school' or 'academy'. They'll usually all be the same price, and have a weird amount for sale (like 3,333 or some shit) and those are NPC seeded.

>>162568665
It went F2P, along with an upgraded NPE, since a week trial isn't long enough to get a grasp on the game. Especially since a week of training might barely get you a prop skill and a shitfit frigate. It's F2P like 2006 Runescape; 80% of the content is gated behind a subscription, but it's still playable for free.
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>>162568843
>>162568848

The EVE community is cringy and cancerous as it is, there was no need to allow 50 iq monkies into the game
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>>162568665
good thing that nobody cares if you play the game or not
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>>162569136
Holy shit
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>>162569228
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>>162568947
easiest way to see which orders are from NPCs is the time frame
players can make 90d orders, NPC will be 365
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>Exodus

stopped reading there. fucking disgusting
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>>162569531
I never realized that. Today I learned.
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>>162568947
evepraisal has capital ships skill books at 400m
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>>162569136
>>162569448
psssh.... nothin personnel.... alpha....
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Where is the "jita" for gallente side?
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>>162570978
Which is their school price. Huh. How much is a Rorqual anyways?

>>162571270
Dodixie
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>>162571270
dodixie
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>>162571270
sadly it is (((dodixie)))
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>>162571410
>>162571483
>>162571559
Thanks.Damn, to think Im currently in bumfuck verge vendor.Guess I'll make a pilgrimage to see whats up in the big space city.
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>>162571756
>Verge Vendor
Like bumfuck nowhere, it'd appear. Might be worth it to look into doing hauling/courier work out there for profit, if the values are cheap enough.
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>>162571410
I have no idea how to find their school price, hell I dont even know where a school is.
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>>162573569
>search for thing
>look at the list of sell orders
>if there's like 30 different orders all for the exact same price with thousnds of units and 365 days, that is the price
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>>162563825
It does. I guess its doable after all. Thanks.
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Returning player because of alpha
which corp will help get me get the 500mil I need to buy a plex the fastest?
>>
tengoo
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>>162575050
Probably a large nullsec alliance that will allow you to run their relic sites.
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Is there any way to search wormholes by statics? Or is it just a spitball and hope to get lucky?
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>decent BS, cruiser, BC skills
>was working toward carrier skills
>loved going fast in interceptors
>quit
>f2p now
whats the point if I can't t2 anything
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>>162575819
Resub?
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>>162575819
get good
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>>162575819
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>162576028
The jews win again
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>Raptor
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>caldari interceptors
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>attack frigates do not exist
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>Attack Frigates
>In their current form
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>he can't undock without his sig bonus
>being this much of a scrub
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>>162565831
>>Barghest is shit, gets raped to death if theres more than three ships on field
>Did they nerf this thing or something? Why the hell is it so shit now?
No they didn't
>>
>get tired of getting undercut constantly by bots making me unable to sell my stuff
>move to amarr
>unable to sell my stuff because anything besides Jita is basically dead

This is an abstract kind if hell
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>>162577680
Try Hek. I always have good luck, and it's fairly active.
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>>162577680
just bot yourself senpai baka desu
>>
Fuck, thought the free catalyst with some fit would be a breeze doing 4-6 rats than droning it with tristan.How the fuck do I play it? Dont use antimatter?
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I'm currently running level 4s in a Mach using autocannons but I kinda dislike the relatively low range. If I were to get another battleship for fucking shit up at longer ranges what would you guys recommend? I was thinking either give artillery a try on my Mach, doing railguns with a Rokh, or getting a Raven Navy Issue with cruise missiles.
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>>162578919
Arty Sleipnir works wonders on L4's. It's faster than my AC Maelstrom, that's for sure.
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>Making your own rounds because everyone is a megajew

Feels good
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Is there a way to loot all nearby containers at once or do I have to continue opening each one individually and then spamming the 'loot all' button for each
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>>162578919
>If I were to get another battleship for fucking shit up at longer ranges what would you guys recommend?
A rokh works well because it gets optimal range, not falloff

The Machariel excels at rapid fire high damage autocannons that do reach out very far but if you're looking for max damage long range a Railgun Rokh works wonders
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>>162579251
buy a mobile tractor unit
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50m sp player thats been gone for a long time and coming back soon here

what corp should I join? I hear all the /v/ corps are fucking dead or objectively garbage. I'd like to learn how to git gud at pvp again. Is RvB still the best meme corp for learning to fight?
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>>162579558
thank
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Hey so I'm a fucktard, how do I fit a sunesis, like this thing has no cap and no cpu.
>>
Would i get ganked moving 50 mil worth of stuff around high sec? Whats the lowest amount of isk someone would probably gank me for?
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>>162582350
The general rule is that the ship you're using to haul in high sec should have at least 1 EHP per 3000 isk you're hauling.
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>The general rule I made up is
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>>162582571
Sorry to burst your presumptuous bubble but I actually got it from several other people who have posted it in this thread or in in-game chats.
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>training skills for days
>nothing to do
>get into a Heron
>start scanning shit
>hack the fuck out of data and relic sites

why did no one tell me this was so comfy?
>>
>Dec 14th-25th everyone will get a daily christmas gift from ccp! only redeemable for 24 hours per item.

why? i thought it started on the 12th

time to kill myself
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>>162583471
because it has been posted at least 3 times per thread, plus the times I havent bothered to read those posts
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40m sp returned because of alpha

hory shit just need to suck a dick or two and I'll be back in business!
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Theft never felt so comfy.
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how much damage do the lowsec gates do
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>>162585521
about 350 dps
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>>162580687
There are no /v/ corps. Your choices are either /r9k/ or reddit led by a mentally unstable mexican manlet
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Thoughts on Valkyrie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TypyL7luGIA
Does this give any confidence or are we hoping for it to fail
>>
>>162584127
that is a weird looking spreadsheet
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>>162587726
i thought it was cool
not gonna buy a VR for it though
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>>162587726
It always looked nice, it just has boring repetiive gameplay
This doesn't address gameplay at all from the bits I skipped through
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>>162588212
Talks about what the gameplay options are and everything, it doesn't show off gameplay but goes over in pretty good detail what the modes are going to be. About 10 min in is where it starts discussing all the PVP stuff.
>>
>decide to try pirating in low sec for the first time
>check map to find systems with some people
>check sites and belts
>fucking noone
>spam dscan midwarp
>detect avatar and some sub caps
>try to find them for giggles without probes, eventually give up and fly away
>still zero kills after like 2h
What am I doing wrong?
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>>162589285
go to FW Lowsec, you're in bear Lowsec
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>>162589605
but i want to gank ratters and miners, not people who come to actually fight :^)
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>>162590081
then you go to nullsec not lowsec.
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If i warp to stargate within 100, why can't i immediantly warp to stargate within 0?
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>>162590081
there aren't any ratters or miners in lowsec. you might find some newbie ventures if you go to an isolated lowsec pocket, but they also generally have shit-tier faggot pirates looking for elite venture frags
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>>162590210
Because you need to be 150km away to initiate warp.
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>>162590210
You can't warp to something that is closer than 150km. For what you want to do you need a bookmark at least 50km behind the gate so you can warp to it at range.
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>put some ammo up for sale
>get a notification that 2800 units of it sold
>check market a little bit later to update my prices before dinner
>2800 units listed at .01 isk less than me

What the fuck is he trying to accomplish here?
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>161 hours ingame
>120kk isk

should i kill myself?
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>>162590436
>kk
Yes, you should.
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>>162590436
Is that 120 000 isk?

You can do more than that in a single L1 mission, have you been staring at your screen for 161 hours?
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>>162590383
that's a market bot retard
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>>162590124
>>162590221
what's the point of lowsec other than FW then? okay i'll try nullsec, but i have a feeling i'll just get into some big alliance territory on accident and get rekt :^)
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>>162590305
>>162590328
Thanks, I thought I read somewhere minimum is 50km, guess there was a typo.
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>>162590543
>he doesnt know what a thousand thousands is

maybe u should be doing the killing self
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>:^)
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>>162569136
What is it with Germans in EVE? Why are they always awful renter nullbears or the worst kind of highsec miners? What happened to the people that were in G-Alliance and Ev0ke?
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>>162590568
>market bot that gives you a net loss

What
>>
>>162590893
Germans are autistic to the maximum
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>>162590931
it undercuts by .01 automatically

it works the other way with overcutting too
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>>162578919
Fit an MWD and blitz missions. The Vargur might be better if you're clearing missions.
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is plex stil 1kkk isk?
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>>162591038
Okay, maybe I'm just a bit dense or something

What in the hell is the point of a bot that buys something and then immediately puts it back on the market for less than you bought it for? Do you hope that everyone gets into a .01 ISK slapfight and drives the cost way down?
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>autistic enough to wait for an answer on /vg/ instead of checking eve central
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>>162591153
>1kkk isk
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>>162590610
>what's the point of lowsec other than FW

not much desu. plain lowsec with no FW doesn't really have any interesting big meme features to draw player activity
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>>162578919
Something with Pulses so you can use scorch.
Actually moving to long range weapons is very slow, that or go Marauders.

Still, nothing will beat a proper mach in mission clear times, remember very few missions should be completely cleared, you just want to get the checkmark to turn it in ASAP.
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Someone podded me in lowsec and I now have a killright on the guy. What should I do with it?
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>>162592987
sell it for isk
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>>162592987
hunt him down and make him regret living
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>>162592987
Find out where he lives IRL
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>somebody is controlling all of jita regions 5mn quad lif warpdrives.

for a day now they have gone from 22k each to fucking 180k minimum


stop it
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>>162593327
no
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>>162592987
why would you let him do that?
and to answer your question, you're gonna put it for sale and forget about it because kill rights are a meme and nothing will happen.
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>>162592987
kill rights on people who are outlaws are pointless
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>>162577680
You need to do regional hauling and open shop in an area with medium traffic andre competition and start making dosh. It is the slow way but it is the smart way.
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>>162593327
>buy 1 unit
>look at transactions to get his name
>keep him on contact list and watch list to find out when he logs
>undercut as soon as he logs and capture all of his overnight sales.

It's autism but it it's a smug kinda feel.
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>>162590893
>germans
>being good at anything other than salvaging
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>it's a guy that has been in SWA for 8 years is telling newbies that all player corps are shit episode
>>
>jump to high sec system
>5 sigs
>scan them down
>all wormholes
>jump though the last one
>scan all the sites
>all of them have rats

end my life.
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>>162596386
hes not wrong
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>>162596415
go
deeper
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>>162596561
do they still have rats the further you go?
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>>162596415
All sleeper wormhole sites will have rats, period. Pirate sites will not have rats.
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>>162596983
>sleeper
>pirate sites

explain these terms
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Look at all the mothafugga figga niggas in this thread. Amarr whitebois better watch out, I'm about to steal their women's virginities and make them a slave to my Minmatar Brutor BBC.
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>>162597125
"Sleepers" are what we capsuleers reverse engineer into Tech 3 gear.

Pirate sites are what they say on the tin; Angel, Sansha, Serpentis, etc. sites. Anything else in a wormhole is going to be a sleeper site.
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>>162597390
so to remedy the rat problem i either have to kill them or just fuck off to a deeper wormhole?
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>>162596827
they can, think it's mostly just sleeper holes that have lots of sites with rats
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>>162597814
how would i tell the difference before wasting time scanning?
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>>162597740
Kill them. Though they do a fuckton of damage and are tanky af. Please consult the spreadsheet in >>162563825 for how much damage you need to put out and how much you will have to tank, per site.
>>
are there any ships alphas can use for l3 missions
or maybe l4s?
>>
>>162599051
I had no trouble clearing lv3s in cruisers like Vexor or Caracal. You might be able to do lv4s in a Gnosis but it'd be slow.
>>
>>162599051
btw im caldari so no VNI
>>
>>162599143
why caracal over moa?
>>
>>162582350
nah just dont autopilot, 50m is worthless
>>
>>162599891
moa is hot garbage
>>
>>162599996
do i use HAMs for the missions? or can i use lights?
>>
>>162600385
RLML
>>
>>162600452
thanx
>>
Trying to build a minmatar cruiser as alpha for L3 missions and from what I understand they don't have anything that can survive above level 2.
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>>162599996
kys
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>>162601141
that's what you get for being a nigger
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What happens when you mail Wexa Tion?
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>>162601738
you die irl
>>
>>162601503
How would you rig up a nig to run L3 missions cruiser-wise as a piece of shit alpha
>>
>>162602848
get a gnosis
>>
>my first wormhole relic site
>fail 3/6 of the hacks

why am i bad at hacking?
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>>162604115
read more eve uni
>>
are destroyers viable in small gangs
>>
>>162606803
only if theyre t3
>>
>>162607019
or bubblers
>>
Have you praised James 315 today, /eog/?
>>
>>162610947

who?
>>
>>162611203
Anti-cozy niggers mostly in The Mittani's pocket
>>
>undock
>guns are in target mode for some reason
>click the building i undocked from
>lose 50m to concord and have to spin for 15 minutes so i dont get instablapped

wow this sure is a good game
>>
>suddenly realize this game is 98% preparation and the only ways to die are 1) being retarded 2) being willing to fight and die because you are fucking bored 3) random ass gatecamp
disappointing
>>
anybody that wants a referral email me at [email protected]
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>>162613839
sent :^)
>>
>>162612851
>He turned his safety off
>>
>>162613592
>only way to die is to fight/retarded/gatecamp

I take it you have never tried to undock a freighter. When you have 20+ retards bumping you off of jump alignment there is not much you can do.
>>
>he uses safety
>>
>>162614268
maybe you should just switch to hauling in an interceptor, friendo :^)
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>>162614223
>he hasnt turned his safety off

hi carebare
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>want to do some dicking around in low-sec

>"with a sub-2 second align time you're untouchable, the warp bubbles are only in null sec!"

>get to 0.4
>mobile warp disruptor
>drake warps in
>first volley misses and make it to the jump gate
WTF THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SAFE
>>
>things that never happen
>>
>with a sub-2 second align time you're untouchable, the warp bubbles are only in null sec!"

>he fell for this

the guy that told you that probably was also the one in the drake
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>haha yeahi can bypass the game and deploy bubble in low because im lmao xddd
>>
Should I work towards a Jackdaw?
I still need a couple weeks to reach one of the requisite skills.

I haven't played in a while, I'm still relearning pretty much everything.
>>
whats the best thing to mine in hs as an alpha
>>
>>162616627
other players
>>
>>162616627
the trade hub
>>
>>162616627
https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ore/
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>>162616627
just join some meme megacorp and mine in null
>>
>>162617679
but then id forever be marked as a miner

im embarassed of it
>>
>>162617679
whats the best one
>>
So if people gank haulers with bombers, how much would I reduce incoming dps by popping strong x-instinct?
>>
>>162620965
take the cost of that shit and spend it on on a hauling contract

you literally cant lose
>>
>>162620740
The one I like.
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>>162621042
I won't build anything from a collateral.
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>>162620965
Your effort would be better spent on not getting caught in the first place.
>>
Why
https://zkillboard.com/kill/58165555/
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>be alpha trying to find whatever corp will give me the most money
>join wh corp
>they require 24/7 teamspeak
>leave because i dont really like using voip
>try to join a bunch of other corps
>ts3 required
>mumble required
>decide to look at mining/indy corps
>surely these wont require constant comms
>ts3 required
>ts3 required
>mumble required
>find one that doesnt mention voip
>"ok hop on for the ts interview"

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

SHOULD I JUST QUIT NOW
>>
>>162621694
He's in LEVIF, cut him some slack.

Anyone who sides with PL is probably not the sharpest tool in the shed.
>>
>>162622209
>alpha
>join wh corp

That right there is a fuck up.
VoIp is required to really do anything worthwhile in Eve, get over your autism and at least listen in.
You will quickly get lost in fleets/ganked in system without it, because most people don't bother to say and type all information.
>>
>>162604115
the number you see when you uncover a node is how far away you are from a tool, a white node, or the system core

any node that is surrounded on all 6 sides by other nodes is a safe spot that will never have anything in it (but if it does, then the system core is right next to you)

so simple
>>
>>162622330
>get over your autism and at least listen in.

i understand why theyd want me to listen, but everybody ive been with refuse to let me just type my info in fleet chat, even though if i have any fucking info its insignificant because i truly have no idea what the fuck im even doing yet
>>
>>162622209
........given the nature of eve, not being on ts is spectacularly dumb.
>>
>>162622330
Its not a bad choice since the gas can be a decent source of income for someone that's just starting.
>>
I mined for 2 weeks. Tried to into gas huffing, pain in the ass.

Bored. Regret buying two months of autism: the game.

What can I do to make this bullshit fun?
>>
>>162622540
stealthy covops shit

learn yourself into a bomber or do exploration
>>
>>162622412
Yeah that's kinda odd, but just say your mic is broken right now then.
By the time a few weeks have passed you will want to be talking and can just say you "fixed it".
>>
>>162622412
Do what I do, join the corp of a language you want to learn.
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>>162622521
>gas meme

In a proper wh corp you will quickly get bored of sitting in a gas cloud on 2mil sp while everyone enjoys their 50mil sp flexibility, flying every ship in the game for lols.

Choose a corp that is at a similair level to you, wh is pretty elite and generally a bad choice for people starting out.
Either a big corp that needs bodies and is willing to teach, or a small corp with very similair goals to your own, are probably the best rookie bets.
>>
>>162622412
nigga just get over your autism and start talking to them on comms, they'll tell you what you need to say or do
>>
>>162622807
its more than just autism

probably over half my playtime people are sleeping in my house and i dont want to wake them up
>>
>>162622718
Never waste isk or time on gas huffing.

There is no good way of earning isk in this game.
>>
>>162622887
just listen in then, if they scream at you for typing info in fleet then just dont type info, their loss
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>>162622209
VOIP is almost mandatory for EVE. Some places require you to be on it as you are logged in (because spies are a real thing) but most chill places just have it to talk while ratting/mining. Interviews are best done through VOIP since not everybody has the ability to hit 60GWAM and interviews would take too long.

If you're going to look into any territory-holding corp/alliance, odds are good that the demand for a VOIP is high. TS2/TS3/Mumble are staples of EVE since the need to call targets and manage over a thousand people at once in these fleet battles would not be possible with just text chat callouts.

For another view of it, think how different CS:GO would play without voice communication. Without someone making calls quickly, you can focus on what's at your crosshair rather than having to read a chat box at the same time. Sure PVP in EVE may not be as fast paced, but the ability to rapidly call targets takes the need of you to focus on HUD elements and focus on fighting. FC's do the lifting to make sure people attack properly.

LPT: If you find an industrial corp that doesn't require VOIP interviews, or is really lax with letting people in, you can be sure that it'll be open season for gankers and griefers to pop miners and haulers.
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>>162623354
>Some places require you to be on it as you are logged in (because spies are a real thing)

can you explain this? how does being in voip make you less likely to be a spy?
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>>162623026
There are many good ways of making isk bud, don't let the gas huffing meme get you down.
Ratting in null is good, easy, money that an alpha can make.
Easily able to plex within a month or two of playing (won't even cap the alpha skills)
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>>162623452
If you're in their TS3/Mumble and talking, you're likely not talking in an enemy TS3/Mumble talking. If you mute yourself, that's usually a red flag to CEO's that you might not be legitimate, even if it's to leave the computer to go eat food.

Nullsec is a war of information. If you know where the Tech moons are, or where the CSAA's are (Especially ones that have baby titans in them) then the enemy can make a surgical strike on the alliance wallet instead of just roaming around. If the alliance calls for doctrine X for an OP coming up on Saturday, the enemy will know what's coming and counter appropriately. This is why OP's are usually announced with very little to no time for planning, telling members to "just have these ships for doctrines on hand at all times" instead of letting people have time to fit up what's being called for.
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>in GSF
>zero requirements for any external communication such as VOIP or discord

c o m f y
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I'm high sec mining in a Retriever. Should I take my Procurer with EC Hornets somewhere low sec? Would I make more isk? Right now I make around 3m isk every time I dock the Retriever mining Plagio.
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>>162623789
why not explore????
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> If you mute yourself, that's usually a red flag to CEO's that you might not be legitimate, even if it's to leave the computer to go eat food.

but thats retarded and only harms legitimate players

do you think a guy competent enough to get to a significant position in an enemy corp is too stupid to set up two different ptt keys?
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>>162623906
Spies have been found because they failed to do exactly that, because they logged in to the ts of the corp they were spying on with the name of their main character, and other equally stupid reasons.
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>>162622540
>I did the most boring thing in the game and I'm bored
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>>162623846
People say this but I don't know what that means. Relics? Do I need to be in null for it to profit? What do I explore in as an Omega? Is that really any better than mining in high sec?
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>>162625273
Exploration in null and wormholes is pretty lucrative, but even low is better than mining in high sec. You want to use a tech 2 covert ops frigate if you can fly one, and one of the tech 1s otherwise. You can recognize them by the bonuses to scanning and virus strength.
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>>162623906
Usually if you're a legitimate player, the CEO will call you out on it. Once or twice isn't that bad of a thing, but if it's a regular occurrence that you're either muting the TS completely or muting your mic, can cause suspicion.

Also on some of the older clients (TS2 and Ventrillo) having two clients open at the same time might cause problems. Like I said, Nullsec is a war of information. When I tried to get back into Cobalt Edge after being out for a while (and having most of my stuff locked in the local stations) I appealed to the local industrial corp and had a voice interview. He legit thought I was a goon spy from my past involvement with Northern Coalition (When it was Morsus Mihi, R.A.G.E., Majesta Empire, Fidelas Constelas, and RAZOR), but when I went into detail about my times and when I left it, my story collaborated with my work history and I was welcomed on. Trusting people is a hard thing to do.

>>162625273
Scanning sites in systems. You can do it in all spaces, but doing Relic sites (requiring a Relic Analyzer) can get you salvage and other goods. Data sites can be a little tricky, as some of the highsec sites can be guarded and pop your frigate quickly when they make the can blow up, but are usually full of datacores and rarely blueprints.
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>>162625395
>Tech 2

Ya nevermind. I'm not training for 2 months for this shit.
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>>162625603
>one of the tech 1s otherwise

You don't need to fly a covert ops, it's just easier if you can.
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>>162625603
You're not me.
I haven't trained in them at all but I can.
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>A cargo scanner can analyze the scatter cans to see what's in them before you hack them
WHY AM I LEARNING ABOUT THIS NOW
HOLY SHIT
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>cargo scan
pleb cherrypicker faggot
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>>162625501
Do I need to be in null or low to make relic sites and data sites worth anything?
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>>162625712
Preparing my Probe shitfit to get blown to kingdom come. Sounds better than mining.
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>>162626030
Relic sites, maybe. Since the amount/quality of the loot varies based on the level of can, and highsec usually spawn only the easiest of cans. You'll get the occasional blue loot from medium cans, but mostly relic sites will have scrapmetal, carbon, or absolutely nothing.

Data sites will have the occasional guards that show up when you initiate a hack on a can, but the easy cans can have somewhat lucrative decryptors in them that you can sell, or Datacores. Granted, FW is the place to be for datacores in large amounts, but the occasional few from data sites is nice. You can also find Pirate Faction ship BPC's and Tech2 Implant BPC's in data sites.

tl;dr Relic sites are easy, unguarded, and usually aren't that great in highsec, but can be worth getting a start on. Data sites have the chance of you getting shit on, but higher jackpot chances.


Extra: Pirate Relic sites in wormholes are fantastic, if you can do the medium/hard cans they spawn.
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i wanna fly a tachyon oracle
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noobs get out
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>19 minutes
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>>162627197
>24 minutes
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>>162627197
>>162627445
It's a patch night, remember?
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>>162627472
i dont give a FUCK

I WANT TO PLAY MY VIDEO GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>162537090
Wouldn't fly this.

>>162537453
Probably would.
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900 MB.
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>New sounds on menus
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>sound
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923 Nitrogen Fuel Blocks for 27k

This has to be a scam somehow, right?
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>>162625603
astero is a 1 day train
covops cloak is a different story
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>>162626264
>Data sites will have the occasional guards that show up when you initiate a hack on a can
NO. THEY DON'T.

only special 'ghost sites' have npcs. data sites are identical to relic sites otherwise.

>Data sites have the chance of you getting shit on, but higher jackpot chances.
data site 'jackpots' ARE STILL GARBAGE
best thing you can find in a data site are POS sticks and those are getting phased out so their price has tanked.

>Extra: Pirate Relic sites in wormholes are fantastic, if you can do the medium/hard cans they spawn.
NO STOP

wormholes are SHIT isk/hour, and the pirate relic sites in wormholes are identical to null
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>le isk/hr
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>get the answer right
>accuracy goes down

project discovery sure is a great minigame
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>>162628913
>data sites are identical to relic sites otherwise
Tell that to the two cheetah wrecks of mine. At least in highsec, they can spawn drones that pop the can for near-lethal damage to frigates. That's why I do data sites in my Loki now, since that can at least take a hit if shit goes awry.

>Best thing you can find in a data site are POS sticks
So Pirate BPC's are worthless? Tech2 Implant BPC's are worthless? Sure there's a lot of other useless and worthless junk in them, but the value of the stuff in them can be higher than in most mid-low relic sites. The best I got out of a high grade relic can was about 20m in blue salvage, when the average amount is loosely in the 5m/site for relics.

>the pirate relic sites in wormholes are identical to null
While they are identical to null, they're a fantastic find for a highsec alpha to stumble upon since they're usually not guarded by the local alliances. In and out, ezpz.

Or are you one of the fuckers that tell new players the best isk/hr they can get is to mine omber?
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>>162629431
>Tell that to the two cheetah wrecks of mine. At least in highsec, they can spawn drones that pop the can for near-lethal damage to frigates.
my first question is why you are even doing data sites in hi-sec at all. like holy shit, you pilot a loki and trawl hi-sec for exploration....

>So Pirate BPC's are worthless?
yeah, basically. I've got a hangar full of 200 t2/pirate BPC's and on average they are worth 5-10mil.
> higher than in most mid-low relic sites. The best I got out of a high grade relic can was about 20m in blue salvage, when the average amount is loosely in the 5m/site for relics.
again, please get out of high-sec.

>While they are identical to null, they're a fantastic find for a highsec alpha to stumble upon since they're usually not guarded by the local alliances. In and out, ezpz.
npc null is dead empty most the time and has the most lucrative relic sites

>Or are you one of the fuckers that tell new players the best isk/hr they can get is to mine omber?
I've never done mining in my life so I would never recommend it. I've done exploring since my first day in EVE and have been doing it for 3 years.
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>>162629684
>Implying the Loki is viable for anything other than being a blingy Huginn/Rapier, or a blingy Cheetah
I guess you have a point there; I was going to get into a lowsec system to set up a safe haven for newbros to mine and explore, but I seem to hit a power struggle in this one. Might still set up that corp for newer players to come away from the over-mined belts near trade hubs.

>Pirate BPC's worth 5-10m
Gee, I wonder how much this Daredevil BPC is worth. Contracts put it around 52-54m. Sure the T2 Implants may be worth crap (since unless you have a full set of Slaves or Crystal implants) but they're still nice to come across. Also that 20m in one can was a WH pirate relic site. Most of the relic cans value at less than a million per can in these higher sites.
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tfw retarded
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So are minmatar are immune to bombs now? Rupture, Stabber, Hurricane and even rifters and slashers can fit the defender launcher, looks like bombers bar will be closing down.
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>>162630478
fuck me didn't reach the whole notes.
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>>162630583
read*
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>try gallente, get to cruisers, easily hit 200dps on vexor
>try amarr, get to cruisers
>67 dps
Holy shit amarr REALLY isn't for alphas is it
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>>162630748
>200 dps

holy shit, my cormorant does only 105
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>>162630126
>Gee, I wonder how much this Daredevil BPC is worth. Contracts put it around 52-54m.
relic sites drop BPC's more often and more valuable than data sites. consistency.

>Also that 20m in one can was a WH pirate relic site. Most of the relic cans value at less than a million per can in these higher sites.
you wanna talk one-can jackpots? my record is 80mil from a sansha ruins can. and I've gotten more 50+mil cans than I can count

I ran 35 relic sites in gurista space and recorded the value of each can. The average value of a full relic site is 25mil. it's pretty easy to find and run 4 of those an hour in null. 100mil/hour? it's good money.
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>>162622330
>>162622412
>>162622807
what if teamspeak locks your computer up windows 7 actually has this problem no I won't change because autism
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>>162630992
>Relic sites drop BPC's
Not since December 2015, if I read the patch notes correctly. Unless there's other BPC's that drop in them.

>Too many 50m cans to count
I can't even count the 5m cans on one hand. I've yet to see any actually be all that decent.
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How likely am I going to get my shit pushed in flying a Gnosis around dicking about combat sites?
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>>162630748
>>try amarr, get to cruisers
>>67 dps

>arbitrator has the same drone bonus of the vexor
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>>162630748
yeah dual damage system of the vexor, and gallente ships in general, make them superior to amarr
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>>162631551
>Not since December 2015, if I read the patch notes correctly. Unless there's other BPC's that drop in them.
See:
>As of December 2015 patch, Rigging and Encryption Methods skill books, Blueprints for Micro Jump Drive, Shield Booster, Armor Hardener, Spectrum Breaker and Armor Repairer have been moved from Relic to Data sites. The drop rates of those Blueprints has been lowered too. The most commonly looted items in Data sites have had its drop amount halved.

Also you might be doing drone relic/data sites, which is why you saw drone rats. drone exploration is worse than any pirate faction.
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>>162631982
No, it was angel drones. They popped the can I was hacking and blew up my first cheetah. The second cheetah made it out with ~20% hull.
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>>162632047
You did a ghost site you retard
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>>162631568
the vexor has 75 bandwidth to the arb 50
the vexor has damage bonus to turrets, the arb has no bonus
the vexor has 4 turret slots, arb has 2/2 layout

HMMM
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>>162632102
...Pretty sure it wasn't a ghost site. The site said "Angel Local Virus Database" or something.
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does anybody else want to kill themselves after playing this game
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>We would like to inform players that it is now considered an exploit to repeatedly acquire Mini Skill Injectors for any purpose other than for the use of a new character running through the New Player Experience released in Ascension.
>It is further specifically an exploit to transfer this item to any other character from the new character acquiring the Mini Skill Injector in the first instance.
>Farming and trading of this special purpose NPE item, whether for personal use, free transfer or sale, is an abuse of the NPE system and will be actioned as an exploit under our suspension and ban policy.
I feel bad for the anon who did it. He spent hours on this useless shit and now will get banned for it.
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>>162632421
>it is now considered an exploit

that means from this point forward
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>>162632421
>Bought one off of a contract for a hauling alt
I-I'll be fine, right?
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>>162632421
>>162632589
i hope >>162632578
is right otherwise theyre going to lose a bunch of those new players they hooked into their pyramid scheme
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>>162630748
you only get maximum DPS because of the drones in the drone bay. In my myrm, i have upward of 600DPS. doesnt mean i can use it all at once.
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>>162632421
Should've never made that mini injector or just make new character to start with 1m SP or whatever the limit is for that injector.
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>defender missile overhaul
Fuck yea easy bomb removal
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>spend 5 years scanning down a wormhole
>enter wormhole
>spend 1 hour scanning down a gas site
>Huff gas and warp to bookmark
>killed instantly

Best game.
I'll be going back to high sec mining, thanks. Anything to do with scanning is pure cancer.
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>lowsec
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>>162632421
>>162633776
how fucking difficult is it to make it an untradeable item, jesus christ on a corn-cob, CCP.
LITERALLY JUST A SINGLE FUCKING FLAGGING ON THE ITEM ITSELF.

Also the phrasing 'It is now considered' means that they know they fucked up, but won't tolerate any more abuse of their fuck-up, because otherwise... hoo boy, bye bye half of everyone.
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>>162636328
This is the difference between them making a judgement call of "We fucked up" instead of a coding error fucking off and making unintended gameplay happen.

Like when PL dropped capitals and supers because they could jump to a covert cyno being lit in a cynojammed system.
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>>162636328
>what if
>the real exploit is injecting stacks of mini injectors to break through the 1.5m SP cap
>CCP doesn't want people to know about it
>CCP can't fix it because of legacy code
>it also works when you stack normal skill injectors to circumvent diminishing returns
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>injectors
>legacy code
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>CCP
>Not Spagetti
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>>162634824
Don't jump to Perimeter or whatever it's called, it has 4 or so sentries that instakill any Venture.
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>>162634824
hi again
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So if I wanna PvP, which ship do I want to aim for? I'm Omega Minmatar. I wanna be the broest of bros, the ship everyone says THANK GOD when I show up, I wanna be THE GUY.

Thanks in advance. Leveling mining skills and drone skills atm.
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>The only ships I can manufacture in my area that actually give a profit are battleships

help
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>>162637398
vigil is god tier in blobs, people seem to like all the minmatar logi ships in shield gangs and slasher is good gang tackler. if you just want to fly alone or with a couple of people, breacher is the best minmatar fightan frigate
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>>162637398
Scimitar would probably hit that role. Everybody loves Logi on a roam, and if you can logi well you will be well loved.

Otherwise, just work on your core skills and racial ships to 4, 5 if you want the Tech 2 variants. Your FC will make the call of specific ships to bring, and unless you're in something specialized (Huginns for Raven fleets, HIC/DIC, or Logi) you'll bring the doctrine.

>>162637494
>What are modules
>What is ammo
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>>162637575
lol
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>>162637650
you
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>>162637398
double resebo augoror with 1 remote rep/cap rest beams/rails/arty whichever fits.
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>>162637632
>>162637726
>mfw r/eog just shits all over the newfriends
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>>162637632
Been trying to make modules and antimatter, I mean it's profits but it's small. My antimatter rounds give back about 20k ISK per batch I make.
Though maybe I'm not Jew-y enough about the prices.
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>keep training skills I don't really use just because they fit my remap
>addicted to 2700 SP/hour
>can't bring myself to remap to balanced attributes
>can't even fly the ships that would be optimal for my Isk making activities
>feel bad for jumping into HG slaves to bully alphas in FW because they're only +4
What's it like to train at 2200 SP/hour?
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>>162638008
no implants no remap master race, enjoy your nofun
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>>162637398
If you're flying with a somewhat big fleet, then in my experience these are interdictors and interceptors. Both are always welcomed.
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>>162637853
Money makes money; You can't turn 10$ into a million overnight, but you can turn a million into two. Just keep sizing up your production.

>>162637807
>Giving advice to stick to core skills instead of specialize in a ship that might fall out of meta with 'balance passes'
Considering that T1 Cruisers have been on the block for balance passing for a while, I think that focusing core skills for a newfriend instead of directing them into something that may in a few months turn into a flying bag of nails.
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>caldari gets a blue UI and gallente a green

Is it completely faction locked or you can change it with some setting?
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>>162638182
>>Giving advice to stick to core skills instead of specialize in a ship that might fall out of meta with 'balance passes'

the only advice I saw was to not undock until you can fly meme-tier T2 cruisers, instead of giving your entire fleet +100% tracking from ridiculous range
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>>162638308
You can change it in option menu.
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>>162638308
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>>162637853
Try selling your hybrid ammo at mission hubs. Antimatter might also be in demand at the highsec gallente FW npc corp stations people where people trade it in for Fed Navy AM.

>>162638308
Omegas can change UI looks
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>>162638350
...Fair point, I'll bite my tongue and admit defeat there. Though I was always someone that tried to get Vigil/Bellicose fits to work, but always got primaried off the field before my EWar could land.
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>>162638389
>>162638410
>>162638417
Nice, there are some really good looking ones.
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>>162638182
>>162638417
Yeah they sell fine where I am right now, I guess it just isn't as tempting when I can make and sell an apocalypse for 105 mil profit each if I've calculated it properly for the local market.
mountains out of molehills, I guess.
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Hello friends. While exploring I found a capital nanobot accelerator 2. Does anyone know what it's approximate value is?
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>>162639909
0 isk.
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Will I regret training for dreads and carriers on my main? I still have like 2-3 years of subcap ships to train and at the moment I'm in a FW corp and mainly fly frigs and cruisers.
I'd like to give sovnull a try eventually though.

And are level 4 skills with JDC5 good enough to pilot a dread or do big boy corps expect me to have T2 siege/T2 guns too if I want to get SRP? Is carrier 4 with level 4 fighter skills good enough?

I've already finished the navigation skills but maybe I should just extract all the SP and train a dedicated cap alt?
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>>162640002
t-thought I struck gold
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what tool should I use to find a corp to play with? the forums look like fucking cancer, and the corp finder tool seems equally useless.

Should I just play solo until I come across someone worth playing with?
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>>162640584
At least half of those BPs are worthless. Because half of the rigs are more or less worthless.
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>>162640367
It's definitely worth it to have a cap alt. Same for WH exploration. You may be stuck in a wormhole for a while, so it's good if you have another account you can play on in a meanwhile. Same with capitals. Cap alt can be docked, until you need it, while you play on another account. It gives you flexibility, you have more choices.
>>162640617
https://www.reddit.com/r/evejobs :^)
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>>162640617
>eve-o forums, r/evejobs
>find corps/corps in alliances that do what you want to do on zkillboard/evewho/dotlan and ask if they're recruiting
>small corps that do everything are usually awful
>small corps that do one thing often do it really well
>recruitment channels sometimes have decent corps recruiting but it's mostly just shitters
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>>162640584
A lot of the capital blueprints are worthless, that is one of them.
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>>162638593
bellicose doesn't work as fleet TPs, vigil does. look at that range and speed. it's something like 100km optimal 100km falloff
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>>162640367

Most alliances will accept T1 siege and JDC 4, especially after the recent increase in cap jump range.

You probably won't get into PL or NC. but you need a vouch for that anyway IIRC.
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>>162644094
more like most alliances will tell you you're a scrub if you don't have jdc 5
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>>162637398

Depends on the size of the fleet, but in most fleets a really good interceptor pilot will get the kind of recognition you're looking for.

Any other role, while useful, kind of fades into the background on large fleets, but if you're scouting, burning pings for the fleet and getting clutch tackles, everyone will see that you're the shit.
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>>162622209
>interview, like it's some job
Does karmafleet require a voip interview?
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>>162644782
when it's 2 big gangs blobbing each other the interceptor/tackle frig becomes a bit less useful imo. it's when you're moving around that it's really good
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Do you pilot manually, anon?
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>>162646185
I have my chessur photo right above my screen
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>>162646185
I manually press approach
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>>162645626

No doubt, but the chances of getting personally recognised/congratulated by the fleet and/or the FC are highest in an interceptor. As part of a logi or ewar wing, your individual accomplishments are much more difficult for the rest of the fleet to see.

Scouts and tackle get the fleet kills, so good ones are highly prized.
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>>162647848
yeah but who cares, are you looking for handouts or something
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>>162647848
So do HICs and DICs. HIC's especially with being the only ships that can hardpoint a supercapital.
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>>162647948

The guy I originally replied to was looking for a ship that would make

>everyone says THANK GOD when I show up, I wanna be THE GUY

In large alliances, I've only ever seen this with god-tier interceptor pilots. Most idiots can sit in a logi/ewar ship and use their modules on the correct targets, so nobody is going to get hyped when logi pilot #25 shows up for the fleet.
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>>162647848
>getting personally recognised/congratulated by the fleet and/or the FC
Lol what an attention whore. Eat shit retard
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>>162648438
I guess. being useful is probably better than impressing idiots. vigil master race
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>>162637398
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>>162649313
no
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>sanshas radio m
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What's a good budget mic? Does karmafleet do voip interviews before accepting?
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>>162649465
zalman zm-mic1

>>162648510
the easiest way to get recognition is to FC
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I bet I can take any of you in my Kestrel. 1v1 in Jita or no balls.
Paying out 500mil if you can defeat me in a duel. Look for a Kestrel at Jita M17 you fucks.
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>Jita
>balls
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>>162530678
Shield capitals are better than armor capitals
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>le hisec duels
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>>162595865
Doesn't work
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>>162650581
>>162650570
lil bitch boys can't even fight a t1 frigate, eh? Already cucked a svipul here btw
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>come duel my HG snake Kestrel with logi alt on standby
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>>162650575

lolno
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>>162652736
>in new player space where pvpers can't go
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>>162651935

Which t3c did you dock and reship into when he accepted the duel?
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>>162652770
>>162650575
>want to train for capitals
>by the time I can fly them with half decent skills CCP will have rebalanced everything
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dat new wallet flash sound
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My game is stuttering like fuck. Perfect fps for about 2 second and then it will lock up for half a second. This is the first time its done this. What the feck is wrong?
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>>162655210
It's been doing that for me recently but only on startup for like 30 minutes
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>>162652770
Elaborate
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>>162655691
Not him but armor capitals are preferred because they use way less cap than shield Mods. Cap fidelity on fax machines is a huge deal since all the new cap mods are super cap hungry
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>>162654454
It should scale. Getting a sweet bil should sound differently from someone getting few thousands.

But yeah, its cool.
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>>162656674
>thinking cap is important in super blob fights
lmbo
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Hisec stations now tether
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>>162657070
>lasting through triage doesn't matter

A fax in triage with no cap is literally fucking worthless. It does matter
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>>162657070
Almost every single capital mod will cap you out alone. The network support units use so much cap, the capital reppers, the capital neuts, the capital prop mods are all able to cap you out by themselves with no other mods running. It pretty much forces you to run cap boosters no matter what ship you fly
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>check courier contracts out of curiosity
>"deliver 1.000.000 m^3 of stuff for peanuts over 20 systems and collateral of 1.2b"

yeah whatever, what de fug
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>>162657070

It matters a lot, especially with the introduction of capital neuts, the new cap hungry capital mods, and the nerf to capital cap transfers.

Most competent groups with supers are using passive tanked armor supers because if you're primary its almost guaranteed you'll be neuted dry and all your active hardeners will be shut off.
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>>162658303
>thinking e-war matters when the servers are dying around you and you need 30 minutes to activate your neuts
weow
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>>162658514
You've never been in a cap or super cap fight
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>>162658303
>Still no EANM equivalent for shields
CCPlease
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>>162658514
neuts arent ewar
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>>162658724
>still no adaptive invulnerability equivalent for armor
No the rah doesn't count its a piece of shit that doesn't work
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>>162658645
I actually have multiple times
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>>162659003

Guess you and/or your alliance are just bad then.
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>>162655210
have you ticked "download everything" in the launcher?
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>>162659786
what does that do
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What roles do I give to the 2 alt slots?
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>>162659003
>I was an interceptor in a cap fight and I just watched.
>I was totally in a cap fight guys
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>>162660632
The freezes come from the game downloading the shit from today's patch and will freeze until the download has been completed. You can figure out the rest.
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>>162660771
PI alts, market alts, alts for more science/manufacturing job slots
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>>162635801
>freckles anywhere but the cheeks
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>get on for a short amount of time
>just want to have fun, relax and do something simple
>log on
>corp channel flashing like crazy
>GET ON COMS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>get on coms
>they're just discussing politics

anybody else got corps like this? ugh
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How the fuck do some people go their entire PVP career without ever having to worry about isk?
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>>162662997
why is one of my characters in that pic
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>>162660891
>implying a cap fight isn't just more watching

Wew
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is there an efficent way to fix damaged MTU?
repping it's structure takes ages

inb4 buy another
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>>162663843
nvm, figured it out myself - had to move it from ship to hangar, then it showed on rep window
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>>162663843
>>162664336
ur a goofball
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>>162664336
player owned stations repair my ship and drones when you are near them, dunno about the mtu
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What's going on in Jayneleb with a keepstar?
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>mini skill injectors can no longer be traded

good thing I made 3 bil off them as a newb
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How big was the fucking update yesterday? Apparently im downloading 45000 files (2.00GB), but ts been downloading for way longer than it would take to download 2GB
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>join corp fleet
>spend some time traveling
>shoot at a structure
>it explodes
>travel back home
almost as much fun as mining
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Do we know how big is wspace? It seems to me that finding a decent, empty hole to farm must be a bitch these days...
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>>162667491
blame the gas huffing meme
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>>162667463
they added some new skins you can't get yet, and aura says some new annoying things
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>>162667491
Enters holes from Low/Null

Anything with a HS static is going to be taken.
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were any gifts release today or is that tomorrow?
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>>162667738
Oh I have a cerberus and a covops ready in a null npc station. Its just ... the holes have been around for so long, my pessimism is getting the best of me.
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I haven't played in 2 years and don't remember much. Is 0.5 space safe? or is that where the ganking begins?
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>>162668110
You can be ganked anywhere my man
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>>162667880
Find a C1 with a NS static.

Farm out the hole and then farm anything that wanders into you.
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>>162668110
Nowhere is really safe, but .5 is still highsec and you will get a concord response if agressed.
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>>162668401
>>162668663
okay thanks guys.
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were gifts released today or is that tomorrow?
they flip flopped the dates a few times
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>>162671273
You dont deserve anything anyway...

I recall it being on 14th, but not 100% on that.
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>>162671432
Wow that was really rude of you.
shaking my damn head to be quite honest family
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This game would be more fun if there were no gate camps y/n
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>>162673229
No, it would be more fun tho if players could deploy their own stargates, it would decrease gatecamps in the process and allow for more access to pvp intensive systems.
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>wow some fag build a jita-tama gate
>let's camp it
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>>162673602
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>>162672395
>20M isk fragile ship
>2B isk in expensive ass officer mods
>Retarded storyline mods
>Using Caldari Navy torps instead of Dread Gurista
>NOT EVEN THE RIGHT TYPE OF TORPS FOR SHIP BONUSES
Every time I see stuff like this I die a little inside. But judging by his zKill this guy has to be just trolling or something.
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>>162673229
I'd rather just see huge nerfs to tackle range shit and logi. solve many problems at once
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>buy a Tengu for L4s
>they suddenly become enjoyable
>>
>Tengu

kys
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>running missions on T3Cs
It's almost like you dont want to make isk
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>>162673602
>using the jita-tama gate when you could be using the amarr-tama gate
pleb, you deserve to die in a gatecamp
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>>162666646

Provi and Goons just drunked one of Lenny Kravitz's Keepstars.
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oneiros
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twoiros
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>>162678110
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>>162678193
threeiros?
>>
_moros
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>>162673229
>>162674068

>nerf everything that causes non-consensual pvp
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>>162674068
I'm not sure what you mean about logi nerfs but a "huge" nerf to tackle range would kill lowsec pvp.
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>>162678193
delet this picture

doggos are not for bullying
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>>162678597
how do you figure
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>he plays minmatar

pfffffffthahHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAhhaeeaeaehee
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>>162678412
non-consensual pvp is a form of rape
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>>162678849

You wouldn't be able to keep anyone on grid to kill them.

Without long range points from lachesis/arazu etc, fleets won't be able to hold anything past 24km. That instantly kills any fleet setup involving long-range weapons in lowsec, meaning pvp will be even more dependent on armor brawling at 10km.
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>>162678925
I call my psychologist everytime I get venture ganked.
It triggers vicious flashbacks of the time I was abused by a mysoganist in GTA5.
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>>162679183
but that's a good thing if you want to be a noncommittal range fag with no skill

>10km

I didn't say remove warp disruptors, I just would like them to maybe not have 100km range, because that's fucking cancer
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>>162678849
The whole 1v1 frig meta is defined by the ranges on points and scrams. If you make a big cut to said ranges most strategies/ ships/ fits would break and we'd be limited to only the few that can operate in the new, smaller range. Even in small gang situations, lower tackle ranges would make escaping far easier. Easier escapes would mean that actually engaging an enemy would require far less commitment and risk, which imo is a bad direction to go in.
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>>162671273
> "these holiday gifts will begin to appear in your redeeming system"
> "your redeeming system"

Seriously though, what did they mean by this?
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>>162679396
check your redeeming system in 15 minutes
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>>162679387
not reducing base ranges, reducing range bonuses

>make escaping far easier
>less commitment and risk

maybe if you want to be a kiteshitter and rely on 1 silly tackle ship you need a better pilot, or you could bring more tackle or something. if you think 40km hic scrams and 100km recon webs/points are fine you are a horrible person
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>>162679625
why 15 minutes?
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>>162679625
What is my redeeming system? How do I find out what system it is?
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>>162679349

Think of all the ships and fits that can hit out past 24km. Your change would make them all useless for fleets in lowsec.
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>>162638008
this is what I've been doing for 2 years
learning all Int/mem skills before moving to Per/will

I still have less than 1mil in ship/weapon skills, the other 30mil is all in fitting/nav/drones/scanning
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>>162679660

>what are damps
>what is calling primary on the ship with the point
>what is bringing my own HIC or Lachesis
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>>162679787
Spotted the rookie.
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>>162679872
but that isn't true. pro tip: it is possible in eve pvp to not have all of your fleet anchored on each other in a dumb blob. you could take the shorter range tackler ships closer and have your longer range ships further away if they want to get the most of their range
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>>162680035
>move the tackle ships closer (further away from logi) to get blapped

Any other nuggets of wisdom bud?
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>>162680034
Woah man you got me. Are you gonna answer my question or are you too elite for that?
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>>162680267
>oh no I have to use some skill, think of all my anchor f1 doctrine setups :(

making rangefagging a little more difficult would be amazingly good for the game
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>>162679787
This is an old picture but gives you a rough idea.
You go to this inventory tab and look down the list for "redeem items"

You really should have done the newb tutorial
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>>162680527
I did do the tutorial, if you mean career agents and the works.

Do you mean the "new" tutorial thing? I didn't do the new tutorial since I didn't create a new account after alpha clones popped up.

Thanks for the help anyway.
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>>162680779
the newest tutorial has one part where they tell you to redeem some items.

no problem.
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GET YO GIFT NIGGAS
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>>162680035

So why don't you use your tacklers to tackle the ships with long points so your brawly ships can kill them?
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>>162681353
THEY BETTER BE THERE NIGGER
ALSO HWY IS IT EARLY
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>>162681552
because server time
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>>162680390

>everyone should orbit at 500m and shoot each other with blasters
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>zoom in using the right mouse button
>view is fucked until I relog
what the fuck did they do to the camera? It wasn't like this when I last played.
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stupid ass me lit a cyno to move my thanny not realizing I had 15 minutes of jump reactivation timer
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>>162681353

ITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENING

11 DAYS OF FREE SHIT MY NIGGERS
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>>162681678
because that changes FoV

To unfuck it, zoom out again
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>>162681704
Can people with free accounts get these gifts?
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>>162681895
Yeah
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>>162681704
>everyone gets the same skins
its a shit event
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>>162681468
why bother doing something skillful or original when I can fly another ranged f1 anchor blob

>>162681675
>the only 2 ranges are 1km and 100km
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>>162682041
stay mad jew
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>>162682141
already made 2bil selling them to dumb idiots
shame, this could have been an event that requires undocking and risk
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>>162681820
Thanks, not sure why I didnt try that
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What is the max volume haulers working for a pittance can fill? I'm already paying low enough so I'm guessing that if they have to do more than one trip nobody will take it.
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>>162682273
>What is the max volume haulers working for a pittance can fill?
take an iteron mk5 and fill it with cargo expanders thats how much you can fit
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>>162645613
>he thinks eve isnt a second job

you're in for a fucking shock, newbro
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>>162682227
You mean like the santa event that is already/going to happen?

quit bitching
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>>162682273
>more than one trip

this isn't how it works. you get a container when you do a courier contract. if you open the container you fail the contract
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>>162682049

I really don't understand your problem with bonused points. There's plenty of room for interesting options and counterplay.

If your opponents have a kitey long range gang and you have a slower, short range gang, HIC points are a great counter, as are damps, weapon disruptors or MJDs.

They're also a very useful tool for keeping enemies on grid in bigger fights where its impractical to use interceptors.


Why should frigates/interceptors be the only way to keep someone on grid?
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>>162682660
Right, I realized that is how it worked just after posting that, forgive my newbrotry.
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>>162681954
>>162681954
NEET
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>>162682453
try and stop me poorfaggot
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>>162682890
>calls me poor
>he has to scam people near christmas for money

kek
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>>162682952
>has to scam
>not always looking for ways to make money
>poorfags wonder why they're poor
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>>162682708
>HIC points are a great counter

hics fuck up short range ships just like they fuck up kiters m8, don't fall for the meme

in the same way you could be saying long webs are an anti-kite thing, when you know they aren't

range damps do specifically fuck up long range fags I guess. weapon disruptors can fuck up short range people just fine, and MJDs I'd argue are easier to use for evasion than for catching people

>Why should frigates/interceptors be the only way to keep someone on grid?

I didn't say they should be. I think you probably think the only options are meme recons or interceptors, because they're so highly bonused they're the only ships you ever see. frigates are naturally good at going fast and avoiding damage, and having them be more useful and not just totally replaced by bullshit would be nice I think
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>drag the christmas gift to my undocked guy
>its not in my ship hold
>i dont see it in my personal assets
>its not on my alt character

did i fucking lose it? should i submit a ticket?
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>>162683453
did you try your item hangar lol
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I'm just starting out. What's the most useful role to get into a corp easy?

I recon I should specialize in something, because it'll be long before I can do mroe than one thing in a corp.
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>>162680326
There is literally a redeem tab in your neocom.
Use google next time you shitter.

>>162680390
>skill
>flying tackle into a wall of battleship fire

You show me how it's done bud, you need the logi support otherwise tackle is ggwp as you get blapped in 0.5 seconds, because you are tackle.
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>>162683835
spy for hire
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>>162683835

>inb4 mining

Everyone needs a logibro.
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>>162683925
>you need the logi support otherwise tackle is ggwp as you get blapped in 0.5 seconds

this is the problem I'd be looking to solve m8, rather than just having every 'usable' ship be a massive pile of ehp and every fight being muh logi. maybe it wouldn't be ggwp if you didn't get webbed by unbalanced ships whenever you land on grid
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>>162683648
alt+y? yeah
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>>162683835
Assuming you mean corps that do fleet combat: If you don't mind being a basic bitch train for basic t1 frigs + prop jamming so you can be tackle bitch. If you wanna be a slightly less basic bitch you can train for ewar or logi.
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>>162684194
ewar and logi is significantly less player skill intensive than tackle
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I redeemed my first christmas item but I can't find it anywhere in my character's personal assets or inventory

please help me
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So I have the options for
>>162683997
Bitch that betrays corporations and generates a bad rep straight off the bat
>>162684037
A miningbitch or a haulerbitch
>>162684194
Meat on thurstersbitch

Oh wow. Guess I can do space haulin' if it pays.
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>>162683362

I'm just struggling to see how removing options from the game would make for more interesting pvp.

You agree with me that HIC points, bonused webs and weapon disruptors can be used by both long and short range gangs. Why is that a problem?

It seems like your problem is with kiting rather than long points desu. A 70km disruptor on a recon doesn't stop your mwd, it doesn't shut down your guns or your ewar, and you can just as easily use your own recon to keep the kiters from warping while you shoot them with long range guns.

Also, frigates still have a niche, they're decent tacklers and can kill highly specialised interceptors which have shit tank and damage, but more expensive and specialised ships should outperform them in their specialisation.
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>>162684073
>nerf logi
>nerf tackle

Yep, that will definitely help tackle take more of a front seat in fleet battles.

>webbed as soon as you land
When tackle stays relatively hard anchored to logi it is pointless wasting a tackle on them when there are kites memeing around.

This game is only unbalanced if you get caught by larger/better composed roam than your own.

I assume you lost a shiny ship to a blop or something similair that tackled you on warp in.
Tough luck, that's what intel channels are for, it doesn't make the game unbalanced.
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>>162684392
same BRO
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>>162684598
>removing options

this is just a really retarded way of phrasing it. do you think giving everyone infinite range would be 'adding more options' or something?

>Why is that a problem?

well you brought them up as a thing you can use to fuck up long range people, a counter. they aren't a counter, they fuck with everyone

kiting is a little different to rangeblobs, which is what we were talking about before. both have definitely gotten way too easy in recent years. so many ships have such crazy high ranged dps and all the tools to use it with no effort. short range doesn't even do more dps than long range anymore, it's pointless, you just get fucked

>>162684783
>I assume you lost a shiny ship to a blop or something similair that tackled you on warp in.

not even close, kys. this isn't about interceptors being op at all
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>its a /dog/ makes their retarded suggestions public episode
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>Join a wormhole pvp corp
>Refuse to train t3c skills
Thank god I trained logistics 5 before I took a break just in case I'd need it.
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>>162685159
>"maybe 100km webs and 40km scrams are a bit OP"

>everyone thinks this is insane and I'm a massive retard
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>>162685319
>>Refuse to train t3c skills
shitter
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>>162684984
>implying I meant interceptors

>blop
>Black Op (Battle ships)

Or some other class which had the speed to warp in, dps to rekt your carrier, and tackle to stop your warping out.
As this is the only real reason I have seen for people being mad about tackle in 2016.

Not sure why you even mad that "non-tackle" ships in your opinion are fitting tackle, as that is inefficient if there are cheaper/easier to fly ships that can tackle just as well.
So you could FC a more efficient fleet and fuck them on average.

That said, you probably can't as you appear to be a whinging nullbear who is confined to ratting and complaining on /eog/.
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>>162685330
>fleet takes their time to bring a dedicated ship that can web at long range, a fleet to support it and a ship that increases the range of the webs
>I prepare nothing and just bring T1 lel
>die
>WOWOOOW SO OP WHY IS MY CONDOR DYING
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>>162685497
They just don't appeal to me man. I've always found specialist things to be more interesting than generic good stuff.
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>>162684984

Clearly we're not going to agree, but I will say one thing. I don't think any ship should have speed + range + damage + a bonused point (ie. the mordus legion line). That's basically an entire small kitey gang in a single hull.

I don't have too much of a problem losing to a well coordinated kitey gang, each of whom has to do their role well in order to kill me or my gang. But if one guy in an orthrus can just orbit at 40km and activate all his modules to receive a killmail, its a bit much.
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>>162685663
This as well desu.
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>>162685737
t3s are specialist in being good
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>>162684392
Its in a container named Y-to8 or some shit in your stations ineventory
>>
How do you make the perfect waifu?
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>>162686036
short hair
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>>162685552
>As this is the only real reason I have seen for people being mad about tackle in 2016.

don't care about what you've seen or whatever

>there are cheaper/easier to fly ships that can tackle just as well

aids logistics blobs make cheaper more fun ships not actually more cost efficient because they die 10x as often and make you lose fights

and literally nothing I've said has anything to do with catching ratters or anything, it's about damage mitigation in fights and the pointlessness of fitting for short range. pls kys

>>162685663
oh yeah real original there bringing a ship with +999% web range bonus along, what a clever and niche situational choice you've gone with there

>>162685752
yeah mordu's are fucking cancer, even if you forget the rapid bullshit giving them like 10x proper application
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>>162685954
I redeemed it on the character select screen while in space. Where might it be then?
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>>162686112
>oh yeah real original there bringing a ship with +999% web range bonus along, what a clever and niche situational choice you've gone with there
better than yours clearly
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>>162686234
Homestation maybe.. I dunno
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>>162686112
>oh yeah real original there bringing a ship with +999% web range bonus along, what a clever and niche situational choice you've gone with there
Then bring a fucking keres you lazy shit player.
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>>162686552
bringing my own silly long range bullshit ship isn't going to help
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>>162686832
nice mentality, keep piling up the shitty T1 ships that can't do anything correctly and dying to better groups, everyone loves those free kms
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>>162686832
spoilers
>damp long range ship
>he can't do anything anymore

wow
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>>162686931
I don't think copypasting the fleet comps everyone has been using for 10 years and failng to see very obviously overpowered things makes you a good player

>>162687112
>damp
>recon

lol
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>>162687350
I would like to introduce you to bonuses damps ships with -52% damps

>>162687350
>I don't think copypasting the fleet comps everyone has been using for 10 years and failng to see very obviously overpowered things makes you a good player
so OP that they die everyday to other fleets, I don't see how using anything not T1 is copypasting a fleet, can't you faggots understand T1s are supposed to be limited.
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>keep being told to just mine in a venture and get 5mil/hour

>grab a cormorant
>get into an empty low-sec system
>kill a rat
>drops some tracking computer thing worth 38mil
woah
why doesnt everybody just do this?
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>doing L2 security in high sec caldari space
>barely remember how to do anything
>missions giving paltry rewards, but the bonuses, bounties, and scrap are adding up
>finally get one mission with a decent reward
>250K+250K bonus
>bounty value from all the kills was easily close to a million
>next mission after only rewarded 80k

My standing with the agent is 4. I was kind of expecting to start really raking in the ISK after a while, but apparently not. I'm piloting a Corax so I have no problem keeping these low level pirates and drones at a distance to kill them, but its not fattening my wallet nearly fast enough. I think mining condensed scordite I was pulling in like 600k~ every 20 minutes, it was just boring.

What should I make the leap towards so I can afford fancy tech II gear?
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>>162663309
>camp gates and loot
>be super risk averse and only take fights you'll win
>be PERUNGA
>be CEO or director and skim from corp/alliance wallets
>have alts that do industry or trade
>have moongoo reaction farm on the side
>be in corp with great SRP scheme
>have nullbear renters
>actually spend endless hours doing PVE on alts
>sell PLEX
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>>162687684
That stuff doesn't drop all the time, and new players think low sec is spooky.
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>>162668110
>>162668663
CONCORD is worthless, it takes 24 seconds for them to arrive. Gate guns are worthless too. You're safer in low and nullsec than in Uedama thanks to broken bumping and aggro mechanics.
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>>162687626
>maybe a ship shouldn't have a +700% web range bonus, it makes entire ship classes unusable trash

>no anon T1 ships are going to take over the game they're so overpowered, my huginn is literally useless
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>>162687915

>be in CVA and get 100% SRP for flying faction frigates in FW space

Life is good
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>>162688287
I'd probably need to be paid at least 100 mil per hour to be stuck in FW space
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>>162685954
>>162684392

I was in a pod in space, dragged the giftbox to my pod in the login screen. It said that the item has expired and poofed. Did I fuck up or is this just CCP being competent as always?
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>maybe a ship shouldn't have a +700% web range bonus,
>700% is now 300%~
nice logic pal

>it makes entire ship classes unusable trash
its almost like how countering is supposed to work GASP

>no anon T1 ships are going to take over the game they're so overpowered, my huginn is literally useless
like it or not this game is partially balanced by cost, you're flying a shitty 30mil ship, and it cannot compete with a 250mil one
learn to deal with this, this game has worked like that for 14 years
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>>162688378
Always redeem your shit in game and docked in a station.
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>>162688479
you aren't supposed to counter like 50 ships with this one ship you use literally all the time because of range control being super useful anyway

>this game has worked like that for 14 years

it has had shitty balance for that long. they like to say they do diminishing returns on a lot of things, but they really dropped the ball with recons, and I guess some of the recent power creep. but even forgetting the cost, even if there was a very cheap cruiser that had only half the web range bonus, that wouldn't improve the game somehow, we'd just have easier access to being mired in faeces
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>>162688357

I'm not forced to be there, I'm just enjoying some solo pvp. In fact this evening I jumpcloned back to provi and killed a PL keepstar in Jayneleb.
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>>162688935
>
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>>162688981
you didn't kill a keepstar
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>>162688713

So what happened to the box then? If it says "expired" while in the login screen, this is just usual level of ccp incompetence.
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>>162689065

Obviously not by myself you pedantic tit.
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these free christmas skins are sexy
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>>162689917
youre sexy faggot
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>>162689917
>mfw shitter blobbers complaining that they aren't getting supercapital and black ops skins
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>>162689985
n-no u!

>>162690005
You never know, theres 11 more days! and christmas day is a more special gift
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What is worth more, three thousand killmails or a three hundred billion isk killmail?
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>>162690614

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0_d2_Sm90c&feature=youtu.be
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>>162690614
neither, they both arent worth shit
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>reinstall EVE after like 10 years
>BURN EDEN went from being a corp that killed alliances with 4 Ravens and a Sabre to being yet another bunch of blobbers in what is essentially BoB 3.0
>their CEO is ex Xetic/ASCN
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Hey Faggots,
My name is Johnny, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures and playing internet spaceships. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.
Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than “jack off to naked drawn Japanese people”? I also get straight A’s, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch
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-0.5/10, get out.
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>>162663309
They don't. Unless you are mega jew that always flys something cheap and races for loot and salvage every kill.
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>>162692040
burn eden alts just killed the qfc with broski/n0fun. their still good and doing stuff and they have basically all of ncdots good fcs.
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>>162687684
you have to realize a lot of people who play Eve have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to ISK. It is a regular occurrence that T1 items are below mineral value because since they mined them the minerals are *free*.
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>paying for minerals
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>>162695495
>mining

I'd rather fuck a cactus thank you very much.
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>>162695538
>not blowing up haulers and stealing the loot
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>>162695819
What is your threshold for deciding whether to kill haulers?

10 mil?
100 mil?
1bil?
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>>162695819
>not having an alt that's CEO of a nullsec renter mining corp full of divorced middle aged men that not only hand you half a Nyx worth of minerals each month but also pay corp membership fees and fuel your reaction farm while your directors do all the work
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Just lost connection to the server in the middle of a group of nigger slav pirates. Meanwhile my internet connection is just fine. Spent the last 15 minutes watching things happen on screen while none of my input was registering in game.
Probably lost my ship and got podded.
Fan fucking tastic.
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>>162696365
owned
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>>162696365
lmao scrub
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New thread

>>162696779
>>162696779
>>162696779
>>162696779
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>>162696365
And now I can't log back in either.
I'm probably having everything stolen out of my hangers right now.
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>>162696336
I believe it's something between 'we're bored', 'that guy doesn't have a webbing alt' and 'we've ganked this guy before and he got very upset'
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>>162696890
oh
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>>162696871
HO HO HO MOTHERFUCKA
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I swear if I forget to pick up my drones one more time, I'm going to throw my keyboard across the room.
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>>162697192
>breaking your shit
What are you some kind of caveman?
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