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/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #400

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/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #400

Spirit Stones You Don't Need Edition

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.com2us.soccerspirits.normal2.freefull.google.global.android.common

iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/us/soccer-spirits/id808137814?mt=8

FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wNX2ME3E
Friend list: http://ofo.jp/j/OgjO

The following players will have a boosted rate during the following weekend(s):

Dec. 16th - Dec. 18th.
> Yuri, MX87 Lukia, Evylin, Elua, Lindberg, Khirel, Jibril

Dec. 23rd - Dec. 25th.
> Sharr, Z077 Cashlove, Shanti, Black Ivy, Jheet, Valkyrja Beth, Aiolos

Current events:
Teddy Rival Match: 11/27 - 12/11
Hyun Rival Match: 12/4 - 12/18
Alkyde Boss Match: 12/3 - 12/4
14 Days of Miracles: 11/24 - 12/9

More info can be found in-game

Previous Thread >>162354857
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>scouted pome
>free fts

thanks BB!
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>IC

My, that's actually useful.
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I got prey's sentence
I wanted calm icicle but I didn't have a PS so I'm quite happy
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>2nd ps
i-i'll scout ass this week so she can use it, right?
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POME #2

1.4% DR substat at level 12. That could have gone better.
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Wanted EBM
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>>162519375
Having multiple ps is very good
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>get prem tickets from CoT
>time for mileage
>pray for miho
>it's fucking shanti
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>>162519475
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Should I scout Dense Magma?
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>>162519725
theres literally nothing wrong with best horns chan
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>tfw you got a EoG
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>wanted BE
>got BE
nice
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>>162519884
Yes
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>have only 4 uniques
>dupe TW
Just wow.
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>Encompassing Soul

So who actually uses this? Guinevere? Malcolm? Asakura?
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>>162520808
You want a TW in every line anyways
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>>162519984
Beatrice is better than the Moose.
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Is Meiran worth using in League past Diamond?

Got a PoL from today's box and there is a dupe in scout. It feels like a sign.
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>>162521209
I put it on Malcolm
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>>162521503
Any girl is worth using if she's your waifu
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>>162521654
Beatrice is my waifu, anon!
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Who should I transfer my points to next? Duran, Meiran or Alice?
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>>162521803
haru
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rate my team /ssg/
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>>162521917
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>>162521792
Then probably yes

>>162521917
Ugly WW/10

>wrong skin on kiki
>wrong skin on linmay
>wrong skin on shanti
>wrong skin on meiran
>wrong skin on nera
>wrong skin on silk
>using males
Shit
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>>162521917
You're lacking an important defender.
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>>162522095
what defender anon
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>>162521917
>his team doesn't break 15k
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>>162521917
Cute

Absolute cutest
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sometimes miracles do happen
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>>162522503
does the legendary ball sound different
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>>162522558
Yes
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>>162522558
I was playing with sound off, I'm not sure. But I think it might.
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>>162522503
too bad she's used goods
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>>162522503
fuck you
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>>162522503
i fucked her man
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Should I power up my stone now or will there be a power up event soon?
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>>162522503
Welcome to the club, brother. Enjoy your free ride to galaxy now.
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>>162522673
you fucked presty's husbando malcolm, anon?
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>>162522558
In in the sounds zip :
https://mega.nz/#F!o1UBhBaD!HDwT2jivkR6nE31WIxhwmQ!Q8swBLhB

It's snd_card_special2_fly.mp3
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what unique/stones for gaphyl?
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>>162522980
cute
but forgettable since I won't even draw the legends I want
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>>162521917
>tfw always loses to willi ace mono ardor teams
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>Free Ermaltion
>can't use it on anybody
+1 for balmung forced combine though
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>Matched up with the person who beats me in league 3 times
T-thanks BB.
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I love Linmay!
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>tfw got SHit
Kill me
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>>162527203
>35/35
>shit
they're gonna keep buffing it til it's 50/50
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What's the answer
knowing BB it might be O because they didnt check the quiz after the update
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>>162527560
x
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>>162527560
o
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I love Uriel!
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>>162516701
It's a bit late, but I can try it out if you want. I have Khirel, Aslan, AS, and a pretty strong Rudiel.
But don't expect too much, since I already tried Aslan EE on the day it came out.

I have some shit to attend right now, but I will post the result in some hours.
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JUST GIVE ME MY FUCKING UNIQUE YOU DUMB STONESTORAGE
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>earn 25000 GP
>your reward is Gaphyl
fuck this game
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Can you see nickname of person, who send you crystals for event? I rushed and deleted letters without thinking. Maybe it was some dudes from my club and i cant see who it was now.
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>my Sharr gets debuffed to 0% crit by a Jin line
>still win with 1.5k non-crits
Thank god I have the chemo for this cancer right here.
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>>162534107
>4000 non-crit solo shot vs Isillia
Again: thank fucking god for Sharr. I don't need those crits anyway.
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>>162527203
I got fucking Star Tears, and I only have like 2 thunder slots in my team.
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I fucking hate these chinese whales who use uniform silla and retard kiki, such shit taste in skins.
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>>162536334
tfw I use them both

tfw """retard""" kiki doesn't bother me and is actually objectively very cute
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>>162535938
Same here. It's useless for me.
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>>162531356
This is the closest thing I could build, since I don't have rakshasa. I forgot in this pic, but later I used Meiran as Ace.
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>>162537451
This is what Rudiel looked like in a PvP match with Meiran Ace. I tried to use what you based and added as most defenders/attackers I could. The problem is that most attackers and defenders in WW are shit.
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>>162537635
why not enthia's ace
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>>162537665
Oh shit, I thought he asked for Meiran Ace because of the extra speed, but it wouldn't be much different with an Enthia Ace. More crit, but less speed.
Rudiel should have around 76 speed, but it was reduced by Troublemaker skill.
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>have use for basically any other stone beside IC and Star's tear

>get IC

uanghghgghhhhhhhh

guess i can use it for an unique i may want later, but the suffering was quite big
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>>162537842
Just thought enthia's ace + khirel would give a hefty 56% + 25% teamwide crit damage.
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>I didn't get the unique stone that I wanted!
>Uwaaaa Uwaaaa
Must be nice to be a newfag.
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>>162539084
glabanon? are you alive?
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>>162538389
I really wish they just gave IC bonus starting spirit alongside the action bar, so it would at least have a more impactful effect
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>>162538389
IC should really be remade to a self quick start skill that doesn't stack with similar types of skills or make the pass effect 40% or higher to be significant. Its so shit even Glabaris looks better.
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Considering playing this game, is it any good?
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>>162539932
Its so shit it makes Devil Maker: Tokyo look good. Go find some other game to play.
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>>162539932
No, leave and don't look back. It's for your own good
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>>162539932
that depends. do you like borderline hentai games?
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>Bond of Silence
I-is it good?
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>>162529426
Same here brotha man
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>>162539932
Download and try it out, it is pretty fun, but not the usual mindless mobages out there, the learning curve is pretty high.
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>>162540070
Meh, poorman's SC
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>>162540479
How long does it take to get any good at it or have a good team?
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>>162540070
If you already have an EBM Elaine, and SC passer, and wants to use Milky, it is a decent stone.
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>>162540560
a year for f2p.
about 6 months for whales.
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>>162540070
The buff to it's action bar boost looks better, so I guess you can cheese it with Valkia/Silla/ quick start memes more.

But as a unique for a passer? Meh
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>>162540560
It depends on how hard you esports. If you aim for the best since start, you can make into the highest levels of PvP in a year.
Of course this time can decrease drastically based on how much money you spend on it, and rerolling also helps for esports.
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>>162540070
If your passer is fast/recovers atb + high reflex this stone is good. Otherwise, its shit.
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>>162540516
How is it related to SC?
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>>162540636
>6 months for whales
You mean small fish who buys the special deal packages. Whales should have a pretty strong team in a couple months.
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>>162540743
>>162540636

Thanks for the tips, I think i'll try it out and see how the gameplay is, at least the art looks interesting.
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Best way to use this slut? In both situations where Vann is the striker and not.
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>>162540829
>couple of months
You can now drop money to have a hypermaxed totem cancer with Silla ace right now. Literally buying wins with money as BB has intended.
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>>162540794
It increases pass effectivity and and recovers your atb
its more of a selfish SC because SC buffs the lines Crit Dmg for a like a 3% difference in pass effectivity.
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>>162540926
On top of my dick
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>gives out a unique
>doesn't put an discount event
Casuga, BB
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>tfw I got a Earth's cry for the 7 star patch event
>got ANOTHER one from this slut
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>>162519104
ShoT or TB for a Vann?
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>>162541448
EC is really good. What's your problem?
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>>162541561
I don't have anyone to use it
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>>162541552
Before I would've said TB but Ace burst giving a shitload of attack power now and SHoT being a little buffed makes it a toss up for me
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>>162541552
yes
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>>162541552
WoM
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>>162541609
reroll a stone slot

now you can use it.
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>>162541609
You can always reroll your slots :^)
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>>162541634
I'm thinking of using guin ace and ShoT.

>>162541638
Thanks

>>162541662
Maybe when I become a rich fuck a shard of balmug would be good.
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>>162540914
Just a warning, you will probably be overwhelmed by the amount of information it will show. There is a game guide on the top right of the main screen, but even that is far from complete, if you have any doubt, just ask here.
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>>162541795
shard got nerfed
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BUFF POL YOU FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>162541903
>t. I just got PoL
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>>162540926
missionary
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>>162540958
Well, with an infinite amount of money, yeah. Most whales I knew from other mobages would spend a couple thousands per month, and I don't think you can get an endgame team with just a couple thousand. Especially since stuff like ds shop have limited purchases, and packages outside of special deals have terrible ratios.
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>This cupie match

what the fuck.
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>>162542278
what what the fuck?
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>>162537635
>The problem is that most attackers and defenders in WW are shit.

The original post never mentioned using a single attacker (let alone 3 of them). Aslan is there to buff a few key defenders on any give team.
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>>162542572
Its just needlessly time consuming thats all. The black hole swirly one is too so I don't know why i got surprised.
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>>162542662
>key WW defenders
You mean Kiki and Duran? Because that's it for WW defenders. Jade got her shitty skill upgraded on Evolution, so she will need a rework to be decent, and Xing really needs something more for his EE, because his only "totem" is not all that good.

Most of WW key players are Leaders, like Magnus, Silk, Meiran, and Miho.
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>>162542812
>got startled
>read enemy skills and prepared a team
>Renee Ace+Ari+IC Lia+WoM Irin
>start with the ball
>enemy mid only got to move twice
>enemy back only got to move once
>finish the match still confused if I should be prepared for something horrible to happen
I got caught in your anxiety train but you can't be too sure with BB.
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>>162543658
I just went in with my average team since it has 3 times the match TA. The stamina cost is low enough to not warrant a thorough investigation into anyways.

But when i was only hitting 1 on these fucks with no information on how to actually get through i started getting anxious about not having any long passer on my team. No sign of debuff getting applied over time or with my hits helped that feeling.

I started letting them suicide on my units, but they started just blocking so I had to go in the attack again. It was when I saw the 100% hp debuff going up the match made any sense at all. Now it was just a question of letting go the auto button and penetrating with everyone on the GK like you do on the black hole swirly match.

It was interesting as a first time thing, but will get boring soon, as these space time continuum matches are.
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Is this who I think it is?
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>>162544398
>there is more than 1 noautist
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>>162544527
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Should I get Balmung for Sharr or EBM for Elaine?
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>the best option gave +3
why is she so perfect?
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>>162544968
>Noautist is a flip
Time to stalk you in CoT / League faggot
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>>162545049
EBM Balmung got nerfed got nerfed
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>>162545139
Presty porn when
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>>162543429
>You mean Kiki and Duran?

Rainbow teams that run Aslan now are really only using her to buff Meta+ Vic. You don't need to buff a lot of players, just the important ones.

The problem with WW is they have no WW version of metatron, or no real CM overall. If Xing EE turns him into a capable CM it would fix a lot of problems. A 2-defender WW midline would make Aslan shine.
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>>162545410
Never ever, too qt for porn
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Going to wait until the next stone discount to change my Ravian's slots, should I go with FTS or essence of greed in the meantime?
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>>162545154
>not having him added already
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>>162545278
Thanks, will get EBM
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I can understand his new GK not being fully developed yet, but I'm not sure what is up with his William (Maybe he just unlocked level 70?)

Looks like it will be a scary team when complete, but for now it was a free OHKO and I'll take it.
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>>162546702
More like generic team #12938192(...)565
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>>162545545
>just the important ones
Kiki and Duran are far from being "the important ones".

>2-defender WW midline
Kiki and Duran are the only ones worth using, and they are not midline players.

>Xing EE
If his EE just changes his stacking passive into simply a better version of it, he is going to be shit. Jade has more chances than him, since all she needs is for them to rework her evolution skill, or move Spiritual Harmony to II, and give something good in exchange for Dash of Plains on EE.

WW has a long way to go before Aslan becomes useful for them.
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>>162545410
Presty porn when (2)
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>MW ace lost 12% reflexes
how will i recover from this loss
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>>162546134
FTS
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>meta cooperative defense 3/4 times I pen through mid
>CAd 2/3 times when attacker and Meta both had 2kish reflex

Nice rigged game, BB.
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>>162547048
Never ever, too qt for porn (2)
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>>162547048
Presty porn when (3)
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>>162547494
>How to nerf meta
>AB and Hp recovery when attacked in position, not for all the team
Hire me already BB
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>no reward from returners ever
>suddenly 3 of them in a single day
What happened?
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>>162547604
Never ever, too qt for porn (3)
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>>162547494
Metatron doesn't coop so much for me, but fucking Kevin and Duran coops all the fucking time, especially when I would solo, or I would active.
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>>162547919
>>How to nerf meta

She is maybe at #5 or lower on the nerf priority. Choi is way more of a problem than Meta ever was.
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>>162548379
>ever was
Now that's a bold statement.
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>>162548379
>Choi is way more of a problem than Meta
???
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I'm gonna laugh so hard once ardor gets nerfed next update
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>>162549216
>nerf Choi & Angela
>I don't even run them
Nothing will change for except if they buff Shu or Lucian
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>>162547919
>implying BB wants to nerf meta
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>>162549186

If Jesus was a playable light Legend in soccer spirits he would be still be weaker than Choi.
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>>162547492
Just get that manager from the club matches.
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>>162549439
Let's be honest anon, do you really want Choi on Shu's level?
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How do I turn Freyja into a backline penetrator?
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>>162549580
>do you really want Choi on Shu's level?
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>>162549439
Well, of course. I don't see anywhere in the bible where Jesus could shoot laser or raze cities with a kick.
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>>162549637
You don't, but if you have to then just use FTS
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>>162549580
>looking at the entire opposite side of the spectrum
They could all be on the same level as Bell, Beth, Leventor, or Baltheon.
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>>162549926
How do I make a mono or dark/thunder backline then?
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>>162550203
Altair/Nerua/Nikita or something I don't play thunder, and for dark you'd be better off without any thunder at all. Thunder and Dark don't like to share their teamwide totems with each other
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Battalion Jury CM y/n
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>>162551172
sure
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>>162551172
Only if she gets a good EE
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>have to pay 21k gold everytime I have to switch uniques
Th-thanks BB
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>>162550102
>They could all be on the same level as Bell, Beth

Choi is just so far beyond those other midline legends (and way beyond Duke). All of them have a very good chance to pen through unopposed. It's what happens next that is a problem.

Choi is the only midline legend that super chargers the front line when he gets there. The 50% speed buff he gives to the front line is the reason Elaine and William get to move first. The 75% attack he gives to the position is part of the reason WiIliam flattens people when attacking or being attacked.

Choi essentially turns Elaine cancer into super cancer, and William cancer into "end of the species with no hope for a cure" kind of disease.
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>>162551628
Seriously, they should just get rid of it. No real reason for it to be there
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>>162551651
>Choi is just so far beyond those other midline legends (and way beyond Duke)
Well Ardor has Shu, it's balanced between super strong (Choi) and super weak (Shu)
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I got pozzed. thanks presty
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>>162552348
What is with this retarded logic? Shu and Choi don't share resources.
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Legend player change ticket when?

So I can use Shu for something useful
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>>162552937
>Trading a 3* for a legend
Yeah nah
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>>162552348
>Choi
>super strong
What? He is literally free pen and can't get 2k+ reflex without sacrificing too much damage. Do you use WW base or something that you find a free pen unit to be invincible?
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>>162551651
Choi is a problem, sure, but in no way more than Meta.
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>>162552937
i wish
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>>162553235
>He is literally free pen

If he acted once and got his stack going (or god forbid used his active) he becomes one of the most dangerous players in the game to pen through. It's even more obscene with TB.

Players explode after breaking out of the back and running into him. It's worse than running into Battalion Duke.
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How many have been cucked by Duke? He's a beast.
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>Leventor and William got an excellent Ace for themselves
>Vonchi still with that total situational ace, even it's Ace Burst is shit
Ebin
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Got ES from Presty. Any ww players that can make decent use of it?
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>>162553952
>his thing is being fast
>ace doesn't have AP
Bullshit.
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>>162554043
I meant AS, derp.
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>>162554043
>>his thing is being fast
Any backline with slow debuff alter his crit and AP, if anything Vonchi is probably the legendary striker with most defects unless you have a team that allow him to keep shooting
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>>162554043
>Wanting Vonchi to get AS with Ace
His ace is to help against Presty, who hinders any amount of speed useless because of paralysis. With Silla and Milky, chances are high that Vonchi will have shoot with 0 speed, his Ace will at least help him take off what Presty heals.
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why is silla so ugly
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>>162555146
Fuck off.
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>>162555146
Renee is worst
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>>162555146
She's literal perfection though.
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why is your waifu so ugly
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>>162555738
because he is a bird and birds are pretty in their own ways
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lucid and the pussy cats
long tails and ears for hats
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This was a weird frontline. I had no idea black Ivy was so capable up there. They all had 110+ action speed and I was slowed. They had almost unlimited turns for a while there.

When I finally broke out it was an easy OHKO at least, but that took like 20 minutes to escape that trap.
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>>162537635
>1.5k steal
I need this. Thanks for testing it, m8.
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Would you pat DQ's head?
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>>162556439

That is without using her active as well. Add another 60% steal buff if she really needs to get through.
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>>162556476
With a wooden club
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Holy shit Encompassing Soul is so bad. Thanks for nothing, Presty.
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>>162557821
>tfw I got that shitty thunder stone giving reflex/spirit
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Miho or Gaphyl for a ww/ardor team?
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>>162558484
Gaphyl, obviously. Unless you are a masochist.
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I applied to the club Denk!
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>>162559126
Why are you saying that to a dead person
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>tfw I betrayed Denk's club
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FUCK MY MONEY I DON'T CARE ABOUT SHITTY DISCOUNT EVENTS NOR IRENE
I'M
SPENDING
IT
ALL
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>>162559507
don't do it
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>>162559396
You did good anon
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>>162559396
She'll never forgive you
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extra early nighty night /ssg/ were you happy with the stone presty gave you got a tb which was pretty nice now i dont need to swap it around as much for cod/cot
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>>162560358
What did you get, cutie?
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>>162560474
teranoxs blood which was one of two ardor stones i could use so yay for not another ebm or ic
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>Blow 800 st in red elemental match
>Only 2 littres
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::flies into the room and quickly tucks his dark leathery wings behind him, his eyes glowing red behind shaggy black hair that covers his face::
i reached galaxy league today nerds
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>>162560673
>i reached galaxy league today nerds
>only now
Too late for the Galaxy train boy, you faced the weakers
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>another fucking ebm
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Well shit, scouted Ass before and now this guy pops. Now I wasted my luck on scouting legends I need.
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>>162560720
::scoffs::
it sounds like youre jealous but oookay
::unfurls his wings and flies away::
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>>162560772
be happy you're seeing any at all.
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>>162560673
>i reached galaxy league today nerds

What was your team? If you used Elaine it doesn't count, by the way.
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tfw random gook 10k TA willy oneshots your senpais 13k TA angela

what wnet wrong?
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>>162560772
Well, at least you can use them for chains.
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>>162561817
gook magic
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>a wise man's trail
but elise doesn't have a green slot. . .
her ace is so god damn broken
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How can a WW team defeat an ardor team?
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>>162561817
>what wnet wrong?
Senpai let enemy do full combo i guess?
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>Have a 3.8k hp BT
>Gets OHKO'd by Sharr
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>>162562381
Two solo shots in a row.
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>>162563015
leventor does the same to light gks
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>>162563015
>have a 5k hp jin
>get 4 shot by sharr
Stop using a shitty turtle anon.
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>>162563271
I'm not gonna use that old fuck
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>spent 200ST
>no littres
I quit
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>spend 8ST
>no littres
I fucking hate this game
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Puffy robot vulva
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>>162564642
Posting superior Luka.
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Dark nerfs when?
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>>162565000
This. They went full retard with it.
>>
I'm not doing 10+1s until that stupid cunt turtle gives me luck
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>>162558018
Put it on Sky CM
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>>162565732
Give me a reason as of why I should use Sky over Sammy
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Yo /ssg/! How are your stone boxes coming along? I hope you got the stone you've been aiming for. If not, then we know that luck has been saved up for a GREAT day for draws like today.
>>
>tfw already at a 40% win rate in club matches
i'm sorry for letting you down
>>
Do suits only have an effect during club matches? It says it gives a def bonus in club matches, but players are still wearing the suits in every other kind of match.
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>>162566196
>tfw 100%
Matchmaking is fun again and i can keep bullying shitter clubs
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>>162565161
They deserve it, Let them roam a little.
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>>162565000
It won't be long until WW starts to whine and bitch about dark as well.
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>>162566185
:^)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48x_7pH-ikc
wow.... so.... thi is the power of....monodark....
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>Less unique spam compared to last time
So the game really is dying, huh?
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>>162562381
It can't. Literally.
Like Dark can't beat light. The rest can compete against their stronger element.
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>>162568937
buffs when?
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>>162565946
>Speed
>faster Active Passes
>Spirit Gen with Lightning Speed/Double Yellow reflex
>DR/Reflex when attacked/Stealing
>smug
>Witch Sky

Been using her for awhile and she's been the best non-legend CM I've had since my 1.5 years of playing this game.
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>>162569646
I'd use her, but she's off color, so it wouldn't be too good, and I refuse to become a rainbow faggot.
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>no hp/reflex light/ww ace
Fuck this shit
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>>162568937

I have never seen a team carried so hard by Elaine in my life.
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Dark = lolis
Ardor = traps
WW = furfags
Thunder = robosexuals???
Light = ???
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>>162570958
NTR
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>>162570958
Semen demons
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>>162570958
>
>>162571039
>>
>>162570958
goddesses
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>>162570958
>Dark = lolis
>barely any loli or good loli
Only good women of dark are mature looking
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>>162569469
Light has no chance against thunder.
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>>162570958
>dark has 3 lolis
>1 is a legendary gk
>1 is the best super boss in the game
>1 is an endgame striker with a unique gimmick
ITS NOT FAIR
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>>162571537
>implying Vonchi doesn't rip apart thunder back lines because thunder has no damage reduction totems
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>>162569998
But Elaine did literally nothing vs Efjun. He almost got that whale dude but prestys paralyze is retarded.
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>>162569094
This is what I thought too.
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The answer that makes the most sense for her character is completely obvious, and I guarantee you it's going to be -1.
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>>162572547
i'd love to slap her
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>>162572718
-1
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>>162572547
Ignore her. She loves being ignored.
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>>162572547
>>162572809
Nope. The +3 option is the second option.
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>>162572547
>Official art has an ahegao face
Why is this allowed
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>>162571837
It doesn't matter, if Ass gets an active off Kei and Isillia are dead.

You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>162572035

>Ravian shot without Elaine
>360
>Ravian shot after Elaine touched ball
>1800 to 3k
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>>162573476
>what is Shura debuff
>>
>>162573378
>implying Virgil doesn't single handedly drag out the match for over 30 minutes
>>
Kirin or Rudiel as ace on WW team?
>>
Were we dualfags the most fucked by this update?
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>>162573758
In galaxy any Leventor team using a pen ace will easily one shot Kei or Isillia. It's the worst it's ever been right now, especially with Ass all but guaranteeing a kill.
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>>162574342
you were too powerful before, so yes
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>>162574362
>trying to argue with thundercucks
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>>162573820

No reason to ever run Rudiel ace on a mono WW team.

Rudiel
>conditional 68% attack buff (over 50%hp)

Kirin
>unconditional 64% attack buff plus 32% reflex

Meiran
>unconditional 64% attack buff plus 32% action speed
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>>162574362
Elemental advantage is too high. As much as Light is killed by Thunder, WW eats Thunder just as much.
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>tfw you will never spread your germs to Bell
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>>162574342
how did you end up with a dual team in the first place
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5amj00g8FI
Thunder is balanced guys, stop arguing.
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My striker is the cutest.
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>>162574958
You're right, I forgot about Ace Burst since I still have 2 thunder players in my team. I also scouted Meiran today, should I go for the reflex or action speed?
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>playing soccer
>come across a crippled limping rabbit girl
WHAT DO YOU DO?
>>
Take advantage of her
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>>162575849
touch fluffy tail
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>>162575547
>should I go for the reflex or action speed?

I don't know enough about modern higher end Kirin frontlines to comment on it specifically.

I would look at what your overall team needs. You know your team better than anyone.
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>>162575849
>come across a crippled limping rabbit girl
End her suffering

by giving her the D
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>>162575373
is just willy and guin having penetration ace now or theres one for each element at least ?

either way seems 100% pen is gonna be a more regular thing from now on
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>>162577730
willy, guin, and leventor are the only ones with penetration aces.
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>>162577730
Just Ardor and Thunder. Every other element can go fuck itself.
Thanks, BB!
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>>162578096
>>162578085
The worst is the striker himself with such good ace. Saw a rainbow team with just Elaine, William and Angela as ardor. Guess what was his Ace? Yeah, William ace because he would wreck people ass with MW + that Ace bonus.

He can pretty much build his team at any way he want because the ace is with his most important unit anyway
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Are there any 4* players worth keeping if you don't have many players MSPU'd? I've got a shite ton that I'd like to sell.
>>
Is Guin worth investing in now? Is her ace better than Neura's?
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>>162573378
This is an equal situation, whoever gets to frontline first wins. Light frontlines, as fast as they are, they have good chances of getting a second Vonchi shoot off, and if they don't, Leventor also needs his entire setup to Oneshot.
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>>162578485
4* that aren't rivals worth for CoT:
>Eden, Mira, Valkia and Ari
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>>162578563
If you don't need to rely on reflex/hp, sure.
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>>162562381
Use Shanti or Kirin
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>>162562381
>
>>162579036
SoB Kirin and SoB Shanti should do it
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Now she has Saramir with her.
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>>162578598
The issue is that if the light team is using Vonchi then they have 0 team totems whereas thunder will have 2 on top of the elemental advantage.

With Leventor decreasing their backlines reflex the ball is likely to be lost to thunders mid anyway.
>>
So I've downloaded and installed the game. How long on average would it take to reroll a legendary? I've heard it greatly improves the game to start with one.
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>>162579036

The biggest obstacle in mono WW vs mono ardor is clearing the Choi/Lia/Victoria midline. Even without element advantage ardor mid >> WW mid.

Up front Kirin or shanti can definitely score a win, and the WW back with a proper Jin can soak up a few William shots. it's just the WW mid that is so badly outmatched.
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>>162579591
It would take literally forever. As in, there are people here who've been playing for two years and have seen maybe one or two legendaries total in that time.

You get a legendary automatically once you progress to a certain point. It'd be faster to just play up to that point and then restart if you don't like that legendary.
>>
>>
>>162579591
>How long on average would it take to reroll a legendary?

Most people just race to level 30 and get the free legendary, and reroll if they get a bad one.

Rerolling for a legendary through draw right at the start could take days/weeks. It's a 0.01% kind of thing, or worse.
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>>162580021
>>162580110
No other reason to reroll at the start, right? Just race to level 30? What are the good legendaries?
>>
>free spirit stone today
>Calm Icicle
:(
>>
>>162580283
It's good to get a 5-star striker at the start, but it's not all that important. You're not gonna know which color you're going to play until you get your legendary anyway.

Pretty much all the legendaries are good. If your legendary is a striker, keep it whatever color it is and build your team around it.
>>
I've been running dual Ardor/WW but from what im hearing I should specialize to only one color now?
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>>162580626
How do you get new players normally? Is there a gacha?
>>
>>162580283
>What are the good legendaries?

There is a balance patch allegedly ocming soon, so that question is tricky.

At the moment you can't go wrong with metatron. She will be the core of your team for at least a year or two if you get her. She works for any color and is the best "rainbow" player in the game.

There is a balance patch coming soon (allegedly) which could shift the legend priority. Most other legends are color-specific and currently ardor is the favorite (Choi and William).
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>>162580676
Either specialize or go rainbow. Dual is kind of in this middle ground where you don't have ace boost, but you're not using all the best players since you're limited to two colors.
>>
You guys are such crybabies. Rerolling for a legend isn't that hard, you know?
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>>162580773
Yeah, two main ways to get players: You earn Crystals which you can spend to randomly draw players. You can get from story mode and completing achievements. You can also buy them from an ingame store. When you buy Crystals you also get things called Dimension Stones which can be used to purchase specific players.

There's also a Scout menu, which shows random players. You can refresh it 3 times a day for free to make it show different random players. You buy players from Scout with GP, which you earn from Galaxy Tournament and Coliseum modes. You can also get GP by selling players you don't want.
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>>162581013
And no one said it was.

>>162581046
>3 times a day

I don't know why I typed that. It's like 3 times per however many hours. Maybe like 5 or something.
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>>162581013
How many tries did it take you? Did you cry when your level 30 legendary was trash and you had to start over?
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>>162581046
>>162581216
Thanks for all your help, I'm going to get started.
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>>162580787
Indeed i don't have any good rainbow leads. Best I have is people like vermillion bird. Should i try to roll for Silla then possibly?
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>>162581334
Have fun anon!
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I don't understand why dual element aces don't get ace burst.
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>>162581334
You're here forever now.
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>>162581489
Because fuck you
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>>162581489

Because they were the dominant aces at the time of the ace balance patch (Silk for WW/Dark. Milky or Elaine for Light/Ardor. Meta for dark/light). These were some of the most used aces so they were punished for it.
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You have 5s to explain yourself why aren't you using MW William with William Ace, the top striker.
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>tfw everyone suicides into your Vonchi
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>>162581768
I don't use sluts and ardor cancer.
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>>162581768
poor
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>>162581768
He's not cute.
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>NB is ahead of every /ssg/ club
>Mamuru is in second
Niceboat dominates again!
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>>162581768
I only use waifus.
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>>162581706
>reflex aces were the problem and were dealt with
>no benefit for all the hirofags still existing
>>
niceboat a shit
>>
>>162579591

A couple days on average. Could be your first roll or your roll 3 months from now. Rate is like .15% iirc.
>>
Mamuru best club, bitches. It has the best name and best celebs and best dick.
>>
What should I be spending my ST on when there aren't any specific matches available?
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>>162582193
What if you factor in the chance of my level 30 legendary not working with the starter roll one?
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Fucking smashing event, BB.
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>>162582023
NB is the best club and always has been.

No surprise
>>
>>162582339
Saber even admitted this event was dogshit on stream
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>>162582293
Not a big deal at all, you get loads of 5* players.
>>
>>162582270
progress through story mode
replay story mode missions for crystals
play the boss/rival matches for points that you can spend in the season scout and event scout menus
do the element match if you need materials to evolve players
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>>162582023
>>162582351
>riding on the achievements of two players
How pathetic
>>
>darkfag population is now 10x as before
Dark cancer is catching on please nerf it.
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>>162582476
I'm saying that if the two don't work in the same team, then it isn't really any better than leveling to 30, because you only really have one either way.
>>
>>162582508
I've done 100% of the first difficulty in story mode, should I try to get the 3* missions or just skip them in challenge?
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>>162582591
>two players
If everyone had to wait for "two" players cooldown we wouldn't be ahead bend over bronzie!
>>
>>162582670
>10x as before

so still about half the size of light and ardor then
>>
>>162582670

Dark strikers are not reliably OHKO angela yet. They still need more buffs to bring balance back to the game.

Only after people are too afraid to even consider using angela will the game be fixed. Until then dark has a long way to go.
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>>162582774
i just do the ones that give crystals, since you get so much gold and FP in other ways.
>>
>>162582670
Worst are monodark with Alice+Serestia with high reflex. Fucking Ravians are build for damage but they have 2k reflex and the entire team getting debuffed by two whores
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>>162582737
You mean drawing a legendary through the free draws you get with a new account? I personally wouldn't rely on getting a legendary until level 30, unless you want to spend an absurd amount of time downloading data and starting again.
>>
>almost half of the club has no club points at all
Oh, c'mon fags! Don't you want Irene?
>>
>>162583454
That's a good thing, it'll be easier to get the ranking rewards at end, it's a really stupid system.
>>
Generally speaking, is it now better to have a mono team with a few mediocre positions, or a rainbow team with all ideal positions?
>>
>>162583575
>club allows like 40 people
>teee-hee! only top 5 will gain stuff! ;)
Fucking BB, at least give rewards to 10~15 people
>>
So, at the end of the season it'll become a race to see who spends more crystals to achieve the first place?
>>
>>162583227
That's what I figured
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>>162583990
If you want the crystal of top 5, it would be a stupid thing. But if you want the club points, it would be worth.
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>>162583710
the only perk of being in a ded club
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>>162583990
Reminder
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>>162584039
As long as you don't spend 500, maybe it's worth it?
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>>162581768
>me
>having useful legendary
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Also say no to faggots.
>>
>get kevins teamwork back to 0 from -1's
>the hp bonus is gone
did it reset unintentionally?
>>
Reminder that only redditer leaders will kick you if you are ahead of his bronze-ass.
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>>162582339
is it random which one you get?
>>162582427
kek
>>
>>162581768
You have 5s to explain yourself why you are such a faggot.
>>
>>162581768
because im using sharr with elise ace
>>
>40 days until reset
are you telling me I have to maintain my number one spot in club matches for 40 fucking days?
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>>162585038
Well, that's more cancerous than William. Good work.
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>>162585041
Yes. Good luck, but I'm not holding back, fag.
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Make sure to finish building your mono team before next pvp season or you'll be stuck in gold, /ssg/!
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>>162585665
What did he mean by this
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Would backline pen beth work in aslan place work? And what about beth in silla/elaine place as wall?
>>
ded
>>
>>162582427

>>162582339
Have friends, shitters. I got ~1.5k crystals thanks to anon. And going to take that Littre. Real life is real life
>>
>>162585665
>climbing to Galaxy consistently with hybrid team
Yeah how about no
>>
>>162587816
Friends? Are you stupid?

You need to be on a returning account from last month
>>
>>162588640
>this event just shows that no one is returning
>>
>>162589301
Not enough are.

You have to be on a return account from last month
>>
>>162589301
Yes. Obviously.
Why would anyone come back with such outstandingly disgusting shit that this game has become?
We're here only because we hope it'll be better soon.
I swear, if next two patches are total shit without fixing anything, I quit.
>>
>>162589548
No one cares
>>
>get fucked by defender and leader ai suiciding against metas/victorias/chois after stealing from enemy sharrs/williams/vonchis
Nice game
>>
"Lia says she's going to go talk to kiki and asks if we have any questions"
>ask if she wants to be our lap cat gives +3
Why did Kiki become such a slut
>>
>Walking with Saramir and then Sammy appears
>>
>>162586110
Beth's main use is in PvE
you don't need to bother with beth since your team's rainbow cancer anyways
>>
Who here /stalker/? I get so mad when I come across people who're better than me stats wise
>>
>>162582023
>Mamuru is alive again

Based jksmithy
>>
How much xp is required to level a character from 1 to 70?
>>
How do u increase this?

I have lucid Balth yuri front, and with Balth skill after one pass from lucid, the most I've gotten is 3.5k pass.
>>
>>162594664
Get yourself a fucking WoM, fuck
>>
>>162594779
She already has that and two receive pass stones...
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>>162594896
>receive pass stones
Enjoy your 400 dmg on angela
>>
>>162594664
Get more pen and crit damage.
>>
>>162595016
What's a better build for lucid then?
>>
>>162594896
>2 receive pass stone

Nigga what.
>>
>>162594664
If you are going for raw damage, then you really need more pen.
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>>162595241
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>>162595365
>He's serious

Alright Im done with /ssg/ for today
Good night have fun with the 500k gold reward in 6 hrs
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>>162595365
>shit taste
>too retarded to know what does damage in this game
I thought it was a joke
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>>162595365
Literally the worst Lucid art.

Change the dark rec. pass to dark dribble
>>
Best stones for Alice?
FTS/Ardor crit damage/thunder crit/Dark Pen?
>>
>>162586110
Should i bandwagon Bora and become metastatic cancer? team on quote by the way.
>>
>>162596170
Dark AS would probably be better than Dark Pen
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>>162596152
Thanks for actually helping unlike the other faggots.
>>
>>162596474
>he thought that was good advice
Damn, you sure are retarded
Dark crit/Dark critical damage/WoM/scorching inferno
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>>162595365
You don't do damage because you both can't crit, and doesn't have enough pen.
Critting is a good way to effectively more than double and sometimes even triple your damage.
While pen is a good way to make sure that you get most of your damage through.

As an example, with that much crit damage, if you had only 2400 dribble, but managed to crit, you would have effectively the same amount of raw dribble you have right now.

Or if you were to face a GK with 80% DR, if you managed to get an extra 30% pen, you would only need 3k dribble to do the same amount of damage you would do with 5k dribble.
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Presty users, I need your personal experiences.
How has she been? Is she able to resist ardor strikers?
I've only encountered two in league, but they were shitters literally one shotted, so need to know.
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>>162595365
Don't worry, Anon! By making mistakes one learns.
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why is the anti-player stacking still allowed
no way in hell should my units be getting counterattacked FOUR TIMES IN A ROW with <200 reflex difference and 40% CAR
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>>162596597
Wait what? Dark critical red critical wom and what for the other dark slot?
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>>162598128
Dark crit
Dark crit dmg
WoM
Scorching Inferno
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>>162598128
reroll light slot for glab
blue rec pass in prism
dark crit
dark crit damage
seems like the best way assuming you arent poor
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>>162598128
http://soccerspirits.freeforums.net/thread/154/guide-apocalypse-player-spirit-stone
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Impressive.
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>>162598626
This is the third gayest team I've seen yet.
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How exactly do power transfer tickets work?
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>>162598846
They work transferring power
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>>162596851
Oneshot material if monodark. Equal to Angela if rainbow backline. Can't be said to be better than Angela only because Angela is already immune to damage.
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>>162598626
That's either a faggot or a fujo
Most likely a faggot
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>>162599000
No shit. Does it delete the unit you're transferring from, or just turn it into a fresh version of itself?
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Ive had 21 day login going for 2 months how do i get motivated
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>>162599000
Trips Speak the truth
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>>162598626
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Every fucking tournament with this guy.
>menu
>quit
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>>162599764
sorry bruh but I need my gold
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>>162599764
Forgot picture out of autistic anger
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Reminder that NiceBoat and Snowball are the only relevant clubs
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>>162601041
>forgetting about lolibutts
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>>162599969
I don't know why they thought that reducing it by 7% was enough. They should have reduced her ace by at least 15%
It is retarded when simply adding the best players available is a good strategy.
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>>162599969
they should've made it 20%
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>>162601041
>NiceBoat
>relevant
literally the only relevant club is snowball friendo
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>>162601395
>not loli butts
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tfw clearing the last few CoTs is way harder now with the Silla ace nerfs
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>>162601352
>do 45% more damage than before against silla aced players
that's a bit harsh considering the buff pretty much has no hope of coming back online on anyone other than the GK
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>>162601179
>>162601621
more like cuckbutts
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Slot rerolling was a mistake
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>>162601869
There's nothing wrong with that. How else am I supposed to beat the WoM Williams/Leventors?
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>>162601869
he'll get pretty sad when it's 100 pen absolutely everywhere again
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>>162601869
>STAngela
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>>162602208
More than! STIsillia
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>>162601869
wow ST is garbage, Angela already heals and
>defense
dense magma is still better, that guys are retard
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>>162602950
>whales
>smart
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>>162602950
It's a bandwagoner. What else were you expecting?
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>rerolling for 3 days
>FINALLY see a red flash
>it's Dook
YAMEROOOO
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>>162603336
I'm guessing you're reading old guides. Duke is good now. Or were you going for a waifu?
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>>162603036
>It's a bandwagoner
are you trying to tell me ST Angela is a popular build?
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>>162603484
No, I'm calling him a retard.
And it's obvious he is
>bandwagons angela
>bandwagons the ST on every gk trend
>doesn't know how any of those two work
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>aslan and orses in the same line
How does this make you feel /ssg/?
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>Niceboat is the highest ranking /ssg/ club
Other clubs btfo
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>>162603456
Aiming for any dark legendary, then hope my lvl 30 legend is also dark element.
if not then i'm probably rerolling again unless my starter legend is Presty
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>>162603795
Thankful for the free win.
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>>162603804
>i want to be esporty!
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>>162603876
This tbqh.
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>>162603801
Club ranks don't mean much when not everyone in a club is active and doing it.
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>Elemental disadvantage means my team deals 30% less damage and takes 30% more
>Also 20% less reflex for me and 20% more for them
So i'm just supposed to lose every match against the opposite color?
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>>162604081
>making excuses

Don't reply to me unless you're in the top 25 fucking heathen.
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>>162604239
Only if you're ww or dark.
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>hit galaxy with my monodark team
Would have been easier with Presty instead of having Ronald get one shot sometimes.
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Is it worth adding Jacob to pvp team for his ace?
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>>162604346
Only if you use Bora, she would need both those stats, while mid is already Reflex-stacked
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>>162604346
Don't ask us, experiment anon
Like im about to do with Crocell for my monolight team
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how many on color 6* pengs do i need for 1-70
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>>162603971
anon you can't play dark without its legends
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>someone actually using her
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>>162605026
Problem is
>using her with vonchi, a player with no active cd
Pretty useless in that sense
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>>162605345
This

She's only useful for Strikers with longer active CDs like Hiro/Uriel
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>>162605345
What about the pen, fuccboi
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>>162606196
>pen
>on crit damage meta
It's like you haven't played the game in months.
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>>162606397
>28% DI
>GKs DR doesnt move, or goes up
yep
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EBM or SC in the frontline?
There's no room for both.
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>>162607189
>no room for both
Shit line.
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>wanna try ww/light
>no Sky
FUCK
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>>162605026
She's cancer if you use her correctly
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>>162607393
>not having sky
look at this fag
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>>162607553
The game won't give her to me, man
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>>162607446
she's probably worse than elaine
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>>162603336
>>162603804

Hey, if you don't want the account and haven't thrown it away yet, I'll take it. I always bet on Duke.
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>>162608869
Why is the art in this game so rad?
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>>162604081
>being in a dead club
Rest in piss in piss
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>>162608869
i accidentally chose guest account when i binded dook to one of my account, so i overwrote it, i'll call you out around this time if i get another duke account in the meanwhile
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>Use clubmates Choi in club matches
>He can't even ohko Duke
Overrated much?
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>>162609564
Only unit I see consistently ohko a Duke is a Cynthia that procs her passive.
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>>162609550
Appreciated, Duke's always been my favourite character, just above Malcolm. I'm about to start rerolling myself for a bit and see if I get lucky.
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What's the difference between the Galaxy Server and the Global server?
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>>162610357
Only release date, Global was Q3 2014, Galaxy was a few months ago
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>>162610452
But why add another server in the first place?
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>>162610568
Because people play on it
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>>162610568
My guess is it's for new players who want to whale. It would take a lot of whaling for those people to catch up to existing whales on Global if they started today.
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hi, this is my underdeveloped thunder team
should I st eden, is it worth it?
I know I have to replace a lot of the units
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>>162611165
nigga wat r u doing
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>>162611994
don't be mean, I am missing a lot of units I need so this is temporary development until I get them
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>use club members beatrice
>she's actually good
Why did you lie to me, /ssg/?
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>>162611165
>Vann
>Robin
>No Hilde skin
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>>162612354
Post full team, stones, and I'll tell you why it isn't Beatrice that is good.
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>>162611994
>hi, this is my underdeveloped thunder team
>I know I have to replace a lot of the units
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>>162612267
Put Haru on defense until you find someone better. Cynthia on mid. Veronica up front. Invest in Cynthia now.
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Nice Boat has another spot we hit level 82.
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>>162612552
I like both vann and robin
also I wasn't even alive for the hilde skin

>>162612651
thanks for the advice. cynthia has two superbs already so that's good
I'm never replacing haru
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Should I replace Baltheon with Shura as my friend ace?
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>>162611165
>using any Hilde skin other than unevolved
Walking shit taste
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>>162613154
>he missed the event so now he can't get her cutest skin
I am lmaoing at your life
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>>162613260
Nigger I have her bedtime skin. Base and Evolved or go home.

I bet your retarded ass uses the free Kiki skin too
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>>162613367
Your taste is so shit you can see the stench from Mars.
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>>162612809
The kill yourself ace is better
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>>162613759
t. Williamfag
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WoM Ravian?
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>>162614351
DBone / Teranox Ravian
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>>162613367
This. I got the event skin but use E art because it's awesome.
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>>162611165
You may as well go full retard and put Butcher on that team too
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Presty's last gift will be a free legend
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>>162618203
It's a stat exchange ticket so you can go mono.
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KEK
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>>162619774
Giggled
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now that Bell ace > Nerua ace, should I replace Nerua with Altair
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Are Kyoko and Xing good cards? Do they have the potential to be top-tier with EE's?
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>>162620530
>WW EE
>potential
No.
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>>162620530
Kyoko if her last passive gets upgraded on EE, otherwise no theyre both shit
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>>162619774
For more giggles you shouldve Beth and Vitos both in team.
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I honestly thought 10%+ will be possible. This is very disappointing. Might as well try tb get crit/crit damage/pen/AP.
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Selena just gave me a Cupie
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>>162621834
>forgot the image
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>try out my old Griffith under her own ace
>active combo
>230% crit, 170% critdmg
>70% pen and 3k dribble
goddamn
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Serestia please
I giggled when 2.2k reflexes Ravian failed stealing ball from 0 reflexes Kei.
But then when debuff gone and Kei got his 1.6k reflexes back Ravian succesfully did 3 steals and he was almost dead.
How does this shit works?
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>>162604496
Like 30
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like pottery
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How much reflex should I have on my mid line players? Does reflex cap at a certain point?
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>>162626113
iirc the cap is 600 more reflex then the opposing player which gives you a 50% chance to reflex steal. Just remember elemental advantages aren't visible when viewing their reflex in a match
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>>162626294
Are elemental DR totems visible?
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Who should I replace Iggy and Jury with? I have Guin, Freyja and Nikita on my bench. Are any of those three worth investing in? I'm 150 stones away from Ass Salad so Nikita would be obsolete soon anyway. I was thinking of dropping Iggy and switching to 4 man defense if I can draw Altair.
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>>162626672
no
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>>162627323

Guin for Iggy. Maybe Freyja for Jury until you get Askeladd

I don't know about 4 man defense since mono Thunder backlines are pretty hopeless. I think you should just either go 4man front or mid.
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>>162621910
You can't get pen or crit damage. You can get 12% crit though.
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based
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>>162626294
Unless they changed later, it is capped at 65% max chance of CA. And since every 100 reflex you have over your opponent gives you 10% chances of CA, There isn't a reason to go over 650 than your opponent reflex.

The problem is that everyone stacks reflex on mid, so if you want to not be raped 65% of the times, you need to stack your own reflex as much as you can(doesn't have any sort of cap, I remember someone posting a 12k reflex meiran once).
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>>162627893
Will the stat change if I deliberately decrease the friendship points back to 30/60?
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>>162628110
No
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>>162628110
Yes. Most people here do that to get the stat they want.
>Get +1 on superior teamwork
>check stat
>If good, keep increasing
>If bad, get a -1 next to reset the counter
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Anyone else here dual wielding both servers? How's your galaxy server team looking? Do you regret having to spend twice as much time on this game to manage both teams?
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>>162628072
it was changed from 65% to 50% in I forget which patch
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>>162628668
They did it before the patch. Now bb fixed this.
>>162628940
In patch where reflex loss on increasing level was fixed
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>>162630216
>Now bb fixed this.
Fuck. I still had to reroll half my team substats. Funny how they didn't fix the part that says that you get crystals for maxing a player teamwork when you go back to 30 though.
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Do a poll!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11866660
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>face jksmithy
>mono ardor erica ace team
>no kevin in backline
>no stones at all on jiho or erica
>doesn't matter because angela and choi are so fucking retarded broken
I like the part where Choi does over 3k dmg to defenders trying to steal from him.

Nice ardorball, I hope you get nerfed to shit.
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>>162632734
>No William
>No DI strikers in general

Shit poll
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>>162633292
That's my guild leader ;_;7

Mamuru is back
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>>162633396
He's welcome to do mono ardor with only girl characters

That would be more balanced, maybe I could win in 20-25 shots ;_;
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this goes on a GK right?
i still dont really know what the fuck i'm doing, i've never seen a unique stone before
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>>162633292
>>162633510
yeah thats what I'm working on atm hence why so many missing stones, Choi's just there to fill till I've properly maxed Renee. If you pinged me here earlier I coulda swapped him out for something else
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>>162634006
Pretty good GK stone if you can use it, hope for upgrades on the damage decrease one and it'll be amazing
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>>162634006
yes
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>>162634006
Not with those ghost stats it doesn't
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>>162634006
Yes.

>>162634089
You're an idiot.
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>>162634006
Yes, it is one of the 5 GK stones. Each color has one, they all have a primary stat and 25% crit resist.

>WW: 20% DR
>Ardor: 25% pen resist
>Thunder: 50% def and 15% HP recover on being hit
>Light: 35% HP
>Dark: 35% crit dam resist

Even though straight 20% DR sounds better than just 25% pen resist, DR has diminishing effects, which means that the more you stack it, the less each stack is effective.
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>>162634059
Yeon has such a silly face in her base art. It looks like she just did something bad and she's trying to pretend like nothing happened.

Still, it looks good. Erica ace is very strong
>>
>>162634348
Yeon does look a bit silly there, I like her EE art though. Not sure who I want to use more between her and Yuri, might play around with Nari somewhere as well just not sure where would be best. Ardor has a lot of good girls so the team can be pretty interchangeable, made abandoning Ravian a bit more bearable, I swear though if dark get a cute girl healer I'll tilt off the face of the planet.
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santa eve purchase event when?
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>>162635543
Me in the middle
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>>162635543
probably december 20th
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>>162635949
>during Jheet weekend
Awesome.
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>1200ST
>Perial
>+900 clovers
>0 Littre
I hope Supreme leader nukes worst Korea.
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Even in-game lore confirms no one wants to scout Beatrice.
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>>162637923
>+2m in scout
>2 neris
FUCKFUFUCKCKCUDUFUIICCKCUFKCUFUFJDJFJFUYFDFUJDFJFDJU IN MADDDDDDDDD
>>
>300k in scout
>only a black swirly
How will I recover from this loss?
>>
>referral event so forgettable and useless I forgot to do it and literally no regrets
Bravo BB, you got me to lose my interest in your shit. An achievement
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>tfw this would be the perfect stone to give to my waifu if it had some pen
Oh well.
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>>162640585
>perfect
>it's only good stat is crit damage
SHiT
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>>162640585
>waifu
>+12
Your waifu does not deserve this.
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Anyone knows why my Droid4x gets stuck in "reading information"?
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Ravian or Lucid for monodark?
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>>162641880
if you can stack reflex on the front line, ravian
if not, lucid
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>>162635094
I thought Yeon was a magical girl(male)
>>
What is critical damage resistance? I can't get it, is it whether additional damage resistance when a players gets critted or decreasing critical part of the damage (like, if a player X crits with 1k dribble and 200% crit. dmg a player Y with 25% CDR, 1k+2*0.75*1k=2.5k dmg will be dealt) or straight decrease of critical damage of enemy player?
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>>162641973
>ravian
>stacking reflex
KEK
She only needs Balmung now.
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>>162643457
>Nerf of Balmung
KEK
>>
>>162643565
>thinks that makes much of a difference
Balmung was broken. Now it's balanced, but still strongest stone if your striker can crit reliable
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Reminder to get your 30 crystals from the player book
>>
You guys are okay, don't come to Galaxy League tomorrow.
>>
>>162643565
SoB is still strong but not as retarded as before
>>
>>162643824
Thanks anon, had forgotten all about it
>>
>>162644028
w-why?
>>
When is WG coming?
>>
>>162644187
Next year
>>
Good night ssg, I'm flying to the US tomorrow morning so I won't be here for a while. Gonna miss y'all :3
>>
>>162644158
:unzipsMWWilliam:
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>>162644028
What did he mean by this?
>>
>>162644352
If you wanna rape me with MWilliam, get on the line.
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>>162644352
oh yeah, that guy
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>>162644327
sleep well and good luck on the flight
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>>162644327
Fuck off back to your shit country
We're full
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>>162644187
Did her EE turn her good anyway?
I haven't seen anyone running her yet and I'm pretty sure her boss fight was one of the easier ones before
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>tfw not sure if I remove +120 from Kiki to Sam or complete the last +80 Shanti need
Decisions, decisions.

captcha: berg 6200
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>>162645043
I have seen one with MetaVic, she was a literal wall so I had to re-position my own Victoria. Other than this, nothing to report.
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>>162638403
>let's give her some advice

Become Buttrice again duh
>>
Does power-up actives affect any player other than the caster?
I was wondering if i should level up the active on a totem guinevere.
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>>162645796
>I was wondering if i should level up the active on a totem guinevere.
Guin active is clearly a self-buff anon. It's good if you believe your Guin can go nuts stealing from people
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>>162645796
Only caster
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>>162645874
Except I do not.

>>162645879
Thanks
>>
>monodark, ravian+lilith+serestia+shura
>shura buffing a lot ravian crit rate, lilith debuffing a lot my backline def and ap, serestia disabling crits from my backline
how the fuck am I supposed to deal with this shit
>>
>>162645239
?
How do you transcend Sam?
>>
>>162647345
You needed to have him max superb before the 7* patch to get free 5 TPU. tfw I didn't

Got one from the weekly match, scouted one and Selena gave one this morning
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>>162647345
the new red evo material cupie does that
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>>162645043
Very gimmicky. She can't be penetrated as always, but now you can't penetrate at all if she coops. I found a guy with her in CM, and I didn't her to coop at all, if she wasn't already near death, my Khirel wouldn't be able to go through.

I rearranged my mid so that Silk and WG could play being immortal forever, but since her AI is retarded, she is also going to try and steal, which easily kills her.
>>
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I'm so confused!
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>>162648321
I have no idea what to answer on some of these new questions
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This training material stacking is bretty good!
>>
>>162649521
>farm gold match like a madman
>still take forever to max out because the only thing slowly filling me up is 2-stars
New inventory is amazing
>>
>>162649690
I was going to say the same, I just spent 400 stamina on weekend matches without having to go back and sell shit every now and then. I also won't need to sell leftover elementals.
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>>162648321
Genderswap skin in the future.
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which one is the right answer
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>>162649892
"Just" was a bit of a stretch, but you get it.
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>>162649521
Share some of those littres senpai
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>>162650001
Whoever at BB made the teamwork options for Alkyde has no idea who Alkyde is. All of her correct answers are objectively wrong.
>>
>>162648321
focus on passing the ball dear vonchi
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>>162650115
Not all of them, one of the questions was about raining and what would you do, if you let her steal your umbrella it gives +3.
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>>162650001
>>162650115
So the point is that you "play along" with her supposed nice nature then?
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>>162650001
She's "very sadistic", so I'm guessing the sadistic option is -1 and the happy positive non-sadistic option is +3.
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>>162650523
Correct, though both 1 and 2 are pretty much the same thing. I don't know which one is +3, but the third is -1.

>>162650507
That's a nice way of phrasing "Do the exact opposite of what BB described her as on her Story tab." Also it's not consistent, as >>162650295 said.
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Anyone has an old galaxy server ID to refer me with? I need it for the event.
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>>162540017

Devil maker Tokyo was God tier fuccboi. RIP
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>>162651360
Ign?
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>>162539932
it's really good desu
>>
Is there ever a reason to do rival matches?
>>
>>162652664

Character chains?
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>>162652762
I never really figured out how chains work, but don't they have to be on the same team for the buff to come into effect?
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>>162549439

Choi is literally MC. He gotta be the very best
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>>162652872
Or the opposing team, depends on the chain. The big reason to do them is for the dstones you get
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>>162553235

> t. Im in Bronze league btw
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Anyone wants day 2 reff on global?
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>>162652872
there will be incoming chain reworks but its BB. Can't expect much of it.
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How do I use the pig?
>>
>>162653132
mBellAnon

thanks!
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>>162653010
Ah, I didn't realize that you'd get dstones from completing all the chains. Guess I'll start doing that.
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>scout a second ebm
>team is finally complete
feels good
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>>162653250
If you can ref me back on galaxy it will be appreaciated, if not, whatever.
ALCG
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>>162653559
>tongue
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>>162653635
Thanks a lot! And I would, but I don't have an account on galaxy, sorry.
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>>162652405
IGN: Guilcard. Thanks in advance!
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>>162653559
Why are you posting dogs on a mobage thread?
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Why is Lindberg so perfect?
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>>162649521
What the hell is that bear thing next to the littre?
>>
Who should I be looking for to use as a WW CDM?
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>>162654784

Shushu
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>>162654808
Evylin
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>>162655045
Anyone else? I just passed her by in scouting because I wasn't sure if she was any good.
>>
SHoT or Calm Icicle Lynia?
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>>162654761
>dark skin
>white hair that doesn't look godawful
>fit
>nice, firm tits
>delicious healthy ass
>muscles big enough to be noticeable, but don't look bad on her
>lickable belly
>precious thighs
She just is
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>>162655525
SHoT I guess, Lynia is quite fast and maybe extra crit dmg will be better
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>>162655525
Either is fine
SHoT recently got buffed
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>>162655232
Yeah, meta.
Linmay and Nera are suffering but you can try them
>>
id love some ref on Global too

ign:Antiman

didn't try yet but should very well be able to ref on galaxy if needed
>>
Who's the best helper to pick in standard CoD matches? Whichever matches your element?
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DR or Crit resist for gk?
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>>162657237
dark
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Where do I put Enthia in a WW team?
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>>162657237
Dark by far, Long pass and spirit gen is so good in colo, and the speed and car on pass is sweet too
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>>162583227

> downloading data

... anon what
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>>162657237
phil the dark clown,

lots of times doing cod i wondered how wonderful would it be if elizabeth had a long pass
and it kind of happened
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>>162657384
depends on the gk and the backline
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>>162657423
>>162657570
Shit, I've just been using Elizabeth since I'm WW. Guess I'll start trying dark.
>>
>>162657674
Was I using a shitty method? I thought you had to re-download the data every time to reroll.
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>>162657750
Angela.
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Should I stop doing the daily XP matches after level 85? I feel like there isn't much incentive to level after that point and you'd level more slowly for PvP.
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>>162658434
at 100, don't you want a unique stone
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>>162658434
After a certain point, it doesn't matter much.
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>>162658535
I'm almost level 90 and I now have a single unique stone, probably should grab that one as well.
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>>162657237
dark if you're new, light for doing ohko runs imo

he's speedy and debuffs AS with a pass, midlines in later CoD get really fast and starting AB rng is a piece of shit that works against you most of the time, so it helps a lot
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>>162657903
They added a log out button recently, so nah the method is
Play as guest->roll->decide to keep> if not ,log out->repeat
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>>162659182
oops, i forgot kiki ace is old news now :^)
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Hey guys, i'm thinking of getting the growth packadge and the daily one, should i get them, are they worth?If not ill just buy a humble bundle or some games.
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Buff WW.
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>>162659710
No.
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>>162659182
6 star lvl 77? what
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>>162656619
Ref me >>162653635
Ill ref in a bit.
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>>162660043
On galaxy, ofc.
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>>162659974
It's a CoD helper anon
>>
Presty is for ____?
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>>162660405
headpats
>>
>>162660405
bullying
>>
Someone please tell me how critical damage resistance works
>>
>>162660778
>critical damage resistance works
Example:
Noa has 50% crit dmg on shoot vs a 50% crit dmg resist, her critical damage won't deal any extra damage because the crit dmg was totally negated.
>>
>>162660778
Ill tell you that once you explain to me how defense and steal works.
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>>162661019
defence - second part of damage resistance, as well as chance of coop-def, not negated by penetration power
steal - any damage player deals without the ball
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>>162660978
Okay, i understand now, thanks
>>
Pen/Crit ace for my WW/Dark team WHEN?
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>>162661625
Yeah but whats the ratio how much 1000 defense is worth?
Does steal influence/is affect by reflex? How does steal damage work?
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>>162662129
Steal is exactly like dribble. Depends only on AP, no relation with reflex. It's numbers are set for each character just like dribble but proprtions do change.
As for defense, though, i don't really know numbers. I keep facing different formulas so i am bit unsure about this. I have seen some sort of guide on reddit about defense but it's half year old and might be outdated although there was the most believable formula i have found: y = 1 - ((x/(x+700))*0.9)) , where x - def stat of a player
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Irene is cute! Can she be scouted at some point?
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Yo what even is 'Mark of the bond' like I just threw it on cb Erica; 6% coop activater doesn't sound that great to be honesst. What if i put it on my cm lia?
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>>162662916
lol
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>>162662916
Take a look at your club scout
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>>162662916
She'll be scoutable with GP once they introduce a new manager whenever that'll be.
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>>162660043
"this user has received all the gifts available for the day"

guess you have 3/3 on the first day soz

guess i can still help some poor soul on galaxy server for the first day
>>
>>162662916
When new manager is released the previous will be available in scout
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>>162663201
>took 1.5 years to release a new free manager
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>>162662956
Best used in the backline for those Co-ops cockblocking shots.
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>>162660043
>>162663359

BUT
i'll make sure to ref you tomorrow if the other days are available,

actually we may keep doing it every day if is ok with you
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>>162665161
Yeah, i have two reffs on global :^) Im missing 1 ref on all other days tho.
>>
>>162658535
hom much time do i have to purchace the growth pack? and how long does it last if i get it?
>>
>>162663817
They will probably add a new manager every club season.
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>>162664520
After hearing about WG, I think Mark of the Bond would be great on a WG CM.
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Should I? She'd at least give Ronald some extra HP.
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>>162667846
MoB Jury + MoB WG mid.
Good luck.
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>>162668143
>wwdark
>no silk
Unsure if based or fubar
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>>162668404
>Using Silk
>After her ace nerf
She's garbage now.
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Heh DEAD GAME
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>>162669218
i watched this anime last week
it was really bad
>>
>>162666919
nice, i found a dummy account on bluestack on my old pc so i can get 1 ref on each day at least,
so i guess is ok if we keep going referring eachother,

also can still refer someone on galaxy server DAY 1 if soemone needs it
>>
>>162668256
Sauce please?
>>162669447
The mc is a betafag with shittaste, the main female bitch is a second class whore
That's enough to make a serioes shit to be honest
>>162668143
Yes
Dump VB, use Saramir in his place, and use Lindberg in your backline. You won't regret it
>>
>>162669539
tfw no cute anon to share referrals with
>>
>>162669025
>using her as ace
Im talking about muuh ebil CR
>>
>>162649521
>Still has 116 ShuShu

Do you even play?
>>
>>162669539
Deal, ill reffer as soon as the event resets
>>
Im actually confused by MoB

does it mean that the one using MoB has higher chances to join other players in the line with coop

or that the players in the line have higher chances of joining the player with the stone with coop ???

or perhaps just flat out increase of coop happening on the whole line regardless of who has MoB or not

?!?!?!??!?!???
hope i was somewhat clear
>>
Should i wait for sharr(and others)draws week or yuri(and others) week? 5 tickets and 11 draws, light/ardor team with choi,vonchi,lucia,black ivy.(dont hate, im just using what i got(no rerolls went with whatever i got, and it was shit for a month)
>>
Thoughts on new evo materials?
>>
>>162672543
Pretty nice, all got their use and since we get a match every weekday its much easier to EE new stuff
>>
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Why is Virgil allowed to be the best healer in the game and also be a Bell-tier breakout player that can pen through co-op defense all the way to the front (healing people as he passes)?
>>
>>162673149
>Bell tier
not even close
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>>162671136
awesome,
having to travel a bit im not sure i'll be able to do it right away after reset, but
you have my ref
>>
>>162673334

Bell can be stopped by CM meta. Virgil cuts right through her (if he doesn't stop to heal with his active).
>>
>>162673149
because apparently you have nothing that can resist a character with +40% attack power with mediocre power/technique
>>
>>162673149
>t.Darkfag
>>
>>162673456
>2k reflex
>can't be stopped
Bell can reach 3k, 1600+ dribble, 130+ crit/critdamage and if she's in the backline she'll probably have some CAR too
he's shit, and if your front lets him get through on the first try, you're shit
>>
>>162673468

Other than Elaine not many front line players can survive a hit from virgil (besides silla with silla ace).
>>
>>162673149
I think you tried to spell Gaphyl.
>>
>>162673960

He is just red virgil. A different flavor of the same cancer.
>>
>>162673801
because frontline positions don't give defensive buffs and only a select frontliners are defensive, big deal

one of these days people will start crying about +attack power in general
>>
>>162673721
>Bell can reach those stats

In a shit thunder team she could. Aka OHKO their goalie team.
>>
how do away teams work
does the other guy see a mirror, or is it lined up and reverse? does my cm change if I run 4 man mid, does the support player go on the right of left on the other guys screen?
>>
>>162674497
Yes
>>
what good is a powerup transfer ticket to anyone who likes their team
why not make it a +160 powerup ticket
>>
>>162674873
You're a moron.
>>
>>162674873
Because it's made for people who made terrible decisions as in, investing in Hiro to have a chance to redeem themselves as in, reinvesting in sharr
>>
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Want to build Ravian... should I pick Balmung for her?
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>>162674182
>only a select frontliners are defensive

This is why Virgil and Bell have equal breakout potential. They will both clear that first frontline player in one hit. It doesn't matter if bell crits for slightly more damage than virgil at this point because they both break out successfully.

The very next obstacle they hit is the CM when they reach midfield. It is a wounded metatatron 95% of the time. Virgil can cut through her easily due to elemental advantage. Bell has a better chance of being stopped. Backline bell is not going to out-reflex most modern metas. (Gaphyl is not easily getting past meta CM either).

While breaking out Virgil is also doing amazing things for the team in terms of healing and spirit gen. Bell is giving them nothing.

This is one of the reasons most rainbow players dropped bell for Virgil so many months ago. He can take over her role on the team even though he is just a healer.
>>
>>162675101
Yes
>>
>>162675052
so because im not a retard or bandwagonner I dont get a 7th gift
>>
>>162673960
Gaphyl is just better because he is oncolor and synergizes better with Angela, if Angela was shit, Virgil would be more used.
>>
>>162675121
watch the same people complain about not being able to steal from a striker or Renee/Elaine because +40% attack power is not fucking enough
>>
>>162675530

Elaine stops virgil because her cancer is somehow even more cancerous than his cancer.

People complain about Virgil because he is the total package. His +40% attack buff alone would not be remarkable if he was not also a source for limitless healing and spirit generation.
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>>162675873
Can't wait for this balance patch to nerf all of this cancer so my dark team can finally rule.
>>
>>162675873
>His +40% attack buff alone would not be remarkable
It's not remarkable to any degree
It's only amazing to the people who didn't think hard enough about the numbers in the game and end up with horrible results like thinking Nera is actually good at fighting
>>
>>162675496
Virgil needs to recover spirit for each light unit in the backline so he's no longer good on rainbow.
>>
>>162676369
dark is cancer now you dumb shitter
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>>162676459

One of the few frontline assists that can brawl is Baltheon but virgil has the obvious element disadvantage bullying him comes naturally.
>>
>>162676790

Dark frontline is not cancer yet. The only dangerous ones I have seen were carried by Elaine. Shura/Ravian alone is so-so.
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>>162677157
>Dark frontline is not cancer yet.
>Shura/Ravian alone is so-so.
Hello false flagger/dark apologist.
>>
>>162677157
Balth and Shura is enough to hit galaxy
>>
>>162677262
Pretty much anything is good enough to reach galaxy
>>
>>162677369
And yet the darkfag still complains
>>
>>162675873
the point being, there's really no reason in talking about Virgil's damage when he 1. doesn't do a fucking lot if you bother to look at his damage/DR buffs and compare it to what your mids and your frontlines stack up, and 2. frontlines die because they don't give a shit about not dying

and it gets extra sad when there's any virgil users complaining about him not doing any damage to a character who has basically no base health and nothing but 25% DR, ie. Elaine, when they gave up an actual damage dealer for literally everything else that Virgil does
>>
New thread when, nerds?
>>
>>162677369
Needs at least 11k TA
>>
sweet dreams /ssg/ who are you going to use your ticket on im going to use it on beatrice but not sure who to give the stats to maybe meiran or ravian or some random cutie
>>
>>162678603
sky
>>
Every time I draw something I get the fucking "Did you know" screen.
Is there any option to avoid this?
>>
>>162677249

>Balth wastes his active before either Shura or ravian ramp up
>550 damage
>Y-you better watch out for next time!
>39 minutes later you barely win despite element advantage

Dark needs a version of Elaine, or Elaine and Angela need to be fucked over and made obsolete. Dark cannot yet bully ardor the way other elements do to their weak element rivals.
>>
>>162679019
>no time to ramp up
>hey dark needs a ramp up unit
Baltheon is better for ohko anyway, you should be using sexy vitos
>>
New thread:
>>162679741
>>162679741
>>162679741
>>
>>162679819
delete
>>
How retarded would it be to convert my 2nd Batallion into Presty's so I can use Presty?

I put IC on Elaine :^)
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>>162673149
Hidden stats like Alice's 200% atk power+ 50%DR, He's good to go with 1000 reflex and 0% CAR, he won't lose the ball.
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