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~ Hotdogs Edition ~
/aog/ is a place to primarily discuss Attorney Online but also Ace Attorney in general.
Whether you want to talk about your favourite cases, your favourite characters or anything else AA related, it's all welcome here.

>Recent Updates
- AOV Christmas Event is now on: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OOw-YfY6A3h2nqqBBot2zDW-w3KgSflqdiowZ9PrIog/edit
- AO2 is still in development. For more information and downloads check: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UdQOegcjhWNgR2qg5RZA9DsmlP2JztGIh_5HAsQzJJ8/edit
- Ace Attorney: Apollo Justice has been released on iOS and Android devices.


>What is Attorney Online?
In short: It's multiplayer Ace Attorney.
AO is a virtual chatroom/courtroom mix which we use to perform improvised AA-like trials, Civil Cases, Class Trials, Jury Cases and more! Choose from a wide selection of AA characters (and guest characters), pick a position (Defence, Prosecution, Judge, Witness, etc.) and dive into a whirlwind of logic, banter, theories and memes.

Come join us on our server:
Attorney Online Vidya (Dedicated)

>The Main Reference Doc (contains AO downloads, rules, FAQs, polls and more):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ihsVxLVarPMPgGcU4W81CQyv3gPkLvS63GK7k0N78Qw/edit?pref=2&pli=1

>AO Quickstart Guide (joining the server, using the client, etc.):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gwg1AVZPlPAFy3aWAW28e9lH1vjIk4d8jOt3mChoy74/edit#

>Gameplay footage?
Streams typically run in the evening, US time. You can also check out recordings of previous cases via guardlytheguard and lawfuldickish on twitch.

Alternatively, you can look through our Case Archive to find completed documents and recordings of cases:
http://ace-attorney-vidya.wikia.com/wiki/Case_Archives
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First for Kirigiri
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First for Maya
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>>162450223
>>162450219
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>>162450386
git gud
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I NEED IMAGES.
IMAGES OF CASES.
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>>162450627
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>>162450627
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>>162450219
>>162450230
I can accept this, as long as it's AA.
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>>162450627
Anotha one
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>>162450627
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>>162450627

http://imgur.com/a/zwJ8L

I'll make a sequel to this album one day.
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>>162451784

And by one day I mean RIGHT NOW.

Will take a bit, though.
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>>162451784
>that old Greg
wew
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Bump.
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>>162452523
The emotes in the album are now improved.
http://imgur.com/a/8bkVu
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>>162451784
>>162452010
>>162450627

http://imgur.com/a/t3kbn
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You can have my favourite memecap, anon.
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Case building in area 2
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>>162455278
who cares?
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>>162455927
People who want to case.

But it's Sunday so ehhhh
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>>162454113
Thank you, Mememan
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>>162427592
>Adachi and Rise can't even move their jaws in the zooms.
That's because they don't move their jaws ever. There's no reason to make their jaws move, when the games have the jaws as static. Their jaws only move in anime.

>but only have two lip flaps (possibly more in Rise only due to person who created the third lip flap or all of them).
All of them have at least four, some have more than four. I recall some being comprised of only unique frames of flap animation. I didn't do Adachi, and I can agree that his flaps are terrible.

>but I had to put in 50 or 60 frames in an emote to make sure that the lip flaps and the blinkings are consistent
I can appreciate that it took a lot of time and it's good that you put hard work into things, but that was time better spent elsewhere. The flaps weren't very good. Rather than making many frames of animation, and adding blinking simultaneously, you should have perfected the flaps first, and then made a stand alone noflap blinking sprite, and then merged the two. You have to do some basic math to fit them - ie, the lipflaps take 300ms to run their course, and the blinks run at 500ms, so you need 3 sets of blinks overlayed for every 5 sets of flaps in the sprite. The flaps ought to have taken many hours, not the jiggling around of frames. When I find myself toying with scripts more than actually drawing, I always take a breather, and then stop. You only add more frames when you must, because you can't draw to that effect in existing frames.

>(since you were very pushy),
I do apologise if that seemed aggressive, but I had the impression you weren't being very receptive to criticism.

>>162428143
How Adachi got in is beyond me, but if I didn't take up Rise, she would have never got in, because the original anon's work was really bad. If you recall when she was being polled, the work that was done was of a really bad quality, and it wasn't finished. I'm convinced they were meming and never actually wanted her in.
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>>162458885
>How Adachi got in is beyond me
Was Adachi actually polled or was he just put in>
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>>162459882

polled
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>>162459882
I think he was polled, but I can't remember. This must be the doing of the dark age of the law.

I started to do his flaps from scratch two months ago, but redoing someone else's work is soulcrushingly boring, and it doesn't provide any utility as new content does.
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>>162458885
Huh, thought this was ended already. But thanks for your input.
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>>162460579
I went to work right after posting the wall of text saying the sleeve holders looked out of place and Elizabeth looked off. Some other guy posted after that.

But yes. Do keep on making more things, and improving.
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>>162460579
Sorry about before. Hm... I should post in thread more for improvements.
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>>162461412
>>162460859
Oop, wrong post. But yes, Prison Godot's sprites are fixed.
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Does anyone remember that chart we had of all the defense/prosecution characters along with a short blurb about what the people who play them are like?

Can we make a new one?
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>>162465117
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>>162465367
Not those, it was a huge list from Phoenix, Apollo, Greg, etc onwards.
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Meme case may be dying in area 2, sign up!
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>>162466570
No
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>>162464001
I want Mia to sit on my face
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>>162465117
I remember what you're talking about but don't have it saved.
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I think the best way to handle any and all new Content from here on out is to have a strict rules for any non-AA or AA crossover characters.

Honestly I would straw poll that every non-AA or crossover related character should be repolled with current standards but that would require the mods and lewdton to be competent and to actually do their jobs on tip of the people here not throwing a massive bitchfit over having to follow to rules.
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>>162470394
>I think

Ok, make a poll for it.
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>>162470394
It would just let to everything to be rigged and nothing accomplished.
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>>162470394
The % required to be added goes up, which will normally prevent characters unless they are good enough quality.

Re-polling anything would be pointless.
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>>162470394
The current rules are fine, peole just need to ask for feedback more.

Making the rules stricter when we only have like 6 people making things is surely going to end well.
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Rest In Pieces
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>>162473632

>we lost to an even deader general
>it wasn't even a close loss
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>>162473632
Are the Paynes animated ingame?
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>>162473985
Reminder lawful said he would ban himself if we lost to 5N@F
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thicc casing in area 3
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>>162476538
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>>162474812
oh right I did say that, didn't I
Let me just get on and call a mod to get that sorted out
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>>162476941
We were just kidding you mememan.
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>>162478058
I know you're kidding, that's why I'm doing it.

Get meme'd on kiddo
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>>162479221
aw shit son I got meme'd real good damn you memelord
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T H I C C
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>>162480674
Thicc?
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>Witness has 50 lines of textimony
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We're going to have the Pikmin of cases. 30 witnesses at once, all organized by color.
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>>162483934
no.
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>>162484863
You're right, organized by HAIR color
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>>162484995
[Loud Screaming]
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>>162464001
THICC
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>The detective adds 10 new pieces of evidence

REQUESTS WERE A MISTAKE.
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What's AO's GOAT Asspull?
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>>162490696
Burger Grease
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does anyone still play this game?
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>>162493592
There are 2 cases going in our server right now.
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>>162490696
Winged Kurain Lions
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When I was playing about a year ago everyone was an asshole. Has this community changed at all?
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>>162494823

>liking a garbage forced meme that was perpetuated by a garbage player

>>162495589

nope
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>>162450627
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@162495631
>A good nitekrew meme that Names never forced

Fuck off yourself shitposter-kun. No (you) for you.
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>>162450627
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>>162495957

Fuck off Names, go give up somewhere else.
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Would you get Cammy's cummies?
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>Detective perfectly indicts himself completely by accident
wew
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>>162480674
did someone say thicc?
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>>162490696
not GOAT but a goodie
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blackquill was british the whole time
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>>162501758
more
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am I case?
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>Ginamod constructs one of the most elaborate theories on AO
>Nothing in it is wrong
>The ENTIRE prosecution defects to her side
>And it was all as Mia, solo.

Was she merely pretending?
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>>162506003
>She
Names is a dude.
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It's been 6 months since I last played. Is it worth updating or should I just delete and re-download?
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>>162506173
Gina mod is a cute girl! A CUTE GIRL!
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>>162506284
At this point I'd say redownload
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>>162506003
>Blackquill was played like a damn fiddle
So good
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Dead?
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>>162509789

Game
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Should I beat AA6 before coming to play AO?
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>>162511831
If you care about spoilers, maybe not. There's casual spoilers in the form of character animations, and there's nothing stopping discussion about it. Otherwise, come on in
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Here's something AO2 should have:

The ability to have text scrolls start DURING the preanimation, so that people can talk during breakdowns
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11857605
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>>162515687
Nah.
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>>162515902
Thanks anon.
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but what about the memes
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>>162519506
how dank?
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is there still a wiki for AO gen?
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>>162451784
>I'm a big fan of magic acts. Mr. Magic Cock is one of my favorite actors
>He really brings out the -D- in magic
holy shit
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anyone ever think the piece of paper evidence icon looks like a wrapped stick of gum?
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Whoever uploaded the BQ/Apollo/Leifa/Trucysoj link to the suggestion doc. You forgot Trucy and Leifa. It only has BQ and Apollo in the zip.
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Would anyone care about me redoing adachi's flaps or does it not matter
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>>162521572

Yes. It's in the OP.
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>>162526714
I've already got them half done, so yes.
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>>162527101
Well then I'll fuck off.
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I learned something today.
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>>162528201
What's that, Anon?
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>>162528343
the shortcut bar for emotes.
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>>162506003
>Ginamod
>Smart

Pick one and only one.
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>>162506003
>complex theories
>as Mia DA
>Ginamod in general
dude, it's fucking names
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>>162529564
>Ginamod is Names
>They don't give up
>Aren't whiny and passive aggressive
>Actually use other characters.

Anon there's a few holes in that theory of yours.
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>>162529564
>Anyone who uses Mia is Names
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>>162529635
>Names didn't give up at his alter months and even then, Gina has given up a few times
>Gina IS whiny and passive aggressive, he's just more subtle about it
>Names also used other characters
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@162530517
>I'm going to lie to prove my non-existent point.

Bad shitposter-kun. Try harder.
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>>162530780
Where is the lie?
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>>162530830
>Gina gives up
>Gina is whiny and passive-aggressive

Are we seeing the same person?
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>>162530890
Yeah, I've seen this shit firsthand. Gina is a fucking asshole.
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>>162530967
t. banned shitposter
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>>162531023
>banned
I'm in a case right now. :^)
Besides, someone has to say it.
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>>162531084
Okay shitposter-kun.
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>>162531134
>spamming shitposter-kun to dismiss me
Dude, come on. How well do you even think you know this mod?
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>>162531312
More than you shitposter-kun.
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>>162531421
Sorry, man, but that's wrong. I swear that I've seen this kinda crap myself.
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>>162531534

Fuck off Frozen.
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>>162531581
????
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>>162531581
Try again. My point still stands.
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>>162532243
>My point that I haven't backed up with evidence still stands.
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>>162532374
The problem is that you're denying my firsthand experience, and implying that I'm making it up to mindlessly shit on someone.
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>>162532529
Then give us your firsthand experience of how Ginamod is an asshole, you haven't done that for several replies now.
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>>162532620
I've had several friends tell me about separate instances in where Gina directly lied to them about something to their face, whether it be about straight up server information, or about how they feel about someone. Along with that, apparently they lied to me too about a case not being open, and I later find out it was.
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>>162532740
What a bunch of vague shit
>My friends tell me

How come I never hear about this from anyone on the server itself, but apparently you have multiple people with this issue
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>>162532740
>Says he has firsthand experience
>Proceeds to give secondhand information that amounts to hearsay

Fuck off shitposter-kun.
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>>162532976
I did say I was lied to, too.
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Say it with me!
Mia is _____!
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>>162533704
shit
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>>162533704
smart!
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>>162533704
thicc
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>>162533704
FAT!
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>>162533704
Names!
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>All the shitposting happens during Yuro hours

Makes the brainmass go ブーム, ブーム
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>>162536890

Hrmmm, really makes you think.
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Shittleup
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>>162533704
Dead!
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How do I present evidence?
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make me laugh
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>>162541576

Join a case.
Laff your night away.
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>>162526273

There is two mega links, the latter contains the full 4 characters.

Unless even that one doesn't contain it, which makes no sense.
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Almaz was the only good player.
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>>162506003
>HURR DURR GINA IS A GRILL GUISE, LETS SUCK HER "FEMININE COCK"

>>162552565
>Almaz
His apollo was just ok, and his grammar is shit.
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lmao
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>player worship/hatred

kill this meme

just play the game
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>>162558474
lol
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>>162561857
hahaha
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>there are people in the server who go to VLS
ban when
They are probably the same shitters who are always namedropping IC
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>>162562428
spoilers: people can go on multiple servers
see: every other multiplayer game ever
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>>162562572

and i've noticed that the worst players come from other servers or not from 4chan at all
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>>162562971
spoilers: people can be part of multiple communities instead of associating with a specific one
see: most people on the internet
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>>162563052

and that doesn't change what i said at all
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>>162563052
>>162562572
t. VLS cuck who came from reddit
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>>162563145
>>162563176
I'm just saying it would make things easier (and you more mature) if you didn't slap stickers on people for no reason.

And yes, I've only been on AOV since ~March, so what do I know.
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>>162563750

I'm pretty sure that guy is just baiting, best not to give him his (You)'s

He's probably from DeadLS anyway
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>>162548126
I checked both earlier, same content in both, unless I somehow messed up downloading.
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>>162564018

I checked both and it was fine, but I pulled Leifa from it and put up a new download since the other Leifa in the suggestion doc was better as it had more sounds.
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Reminder that if you namedrop or worship/hate specific namefags you are the problem. Even ironically, Descartes was fucking right, it caused the current cancer we have to deal with.
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Jacques Portsman - Is Lupa here?.mp3 when?
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>>162565442
Fuck off Verin
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>>162565552

>Even ironically, Descartes was fucking right
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>>162565442
One year in, most people are going to have some form of name to go by in-game, it's inevitable. So it's not the worst thing in the world if people reference them by said name.

It was name/tripfagging in the thread that was - and still is - a no go.

As for worshipping/hating said namefags, some people get a reputation which results in this. If people are fun in a case, people will like them. If they leave mid way through or only serve to shit it up, people won't like them. Compliments and criticism are not a form of cancer.

Obviously there are some who "worship" or shit on specific people for shitposting purposes, but you're free to ignore them, as most already do.
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Nameworshipping? Nameshitting? Namedropping?
Is Lupa here? Is Lupa here? Is Lupa here?
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>>162566056
Fuck off Verin
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>>162566082

keep OOC names in OOC, keep it out of IC even during pre/post case.

this is what people did during the first few months and it was a lot better
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>>162567579
People normally do, outside of shitposting or talking to a mod, anyway.
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Is this what this comes down to
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>One year in, most people are going to have some form of name to go by in-game, it's inevitable. So it's not the worst thing in the world if people reference them by said name.

It's not the worst thing in the world, but it implies that their OOC name matters during casebuilding or anything else. If you're discussing players specifically, sure, but precase fuck off with that and keep OOC to OOC. It seems ridiculous but when we had this mentality back in when we first started things were MUCH better in terms of namefag hate/worship.

>It was name/tripfagging in the thread that was - and still is - a no go.

Yeah, and you used to be ostracized for namedropping IC. Look where we are now. If we're not vigilant it's only a matter of time.

>As for worshipping/hating said namefags, some people get a reputation which results in this. If people are fun in a case, people will like them. If they leave mid way through or only serve to shit it up, people won't like them. Compliments and criticism are not a form of cancer.

Except this goes far fucking beyond that and you know it. Names left months ago and he's STILL shitposted about. The pure meme-hatred/worship players receive is far greater than just compliments/criticism and that's why it's cancer.

>Obviously there are some who "worship" or shit on specific people for shitposting purposes, but you're free to ignore them, as most already do.

I tried that months ago, and again, look where the fuck we are now. Things are much more cancerous BECAUSE we thought ignoring it would make it go away. It doesn't, it just multiplies. These things naturally trend towards circlejerks and the only way we can prevent it is actively correcting it.
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>>162566443
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>>162568252
>Monday night
>Case

Not even hardcore NEETs will help you on this one lad.
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>>162568793 meant for >>162566082

If you want the purest example of the slippery slope we've slid down, just look at the memes. Used to be all in good fun and case-based, with dogs and shit being added to evidence, 32 non-lethal stab wounds, etc. There's still residuals of these memes but the far more prevalent ones are just ironic cancer shit like namedropping, "fuck off X", and general namefag specific barbs.

It's fucking cancerous.
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>>162570726
People thought adding meme evidence was cancer too.
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>>162570898

So? It was objectively better than the shit we have now. Primarily it displays how the mentality went from case-focused - evidence-based memes, testimony memes, whatever - to player-focused - fuck off X and namedropping.
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>>162571020
>>162570726

While the namedropping shit is cancerous, it's a result of cancerous players.
It's hard to avoid posting about people who actively shit up or leave cases.
While a lot of it may be exaggerated, it comes from stuff that has actually happened.
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>>162571996

Except that's still not what I'm talking about. If people shit up or leave cases, yeah, criticize them in game and talk with that person. But

>I want to X with Y!
>Who is the best confirmed Z?
>Fuck off Q

Is pure cancer, pure shitposting, and needs to go and stay go. This shit is happening in-fucking-game, it's no wonder this community is dying. If you people won't change anything, it affects all of us, because then this game will die for certain and we'll all be fucked based on the actions of some idiots.
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>>162572487

this

took a break near the end of summer and things were relatively well, came back late october and noticed a massive drop in quality.
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>>162569019
Fuck off Verin
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So, now that I am on vacation for like three months, I was checking AOV and inevitably noticed that the player base is way too low... Listen, even at other servers that only have like 8 people online during evening times, they still manage to case at least once a day, we have 20 people that are inactive and not willing to case, it is much worse than it seems in my opinion

After discussing intensely with other people in the server, we came up with a possible solution:

A fresh start

Now see, this will be just an attempt, if it fails we can pack it up and go back to what we have now, but if it succeeds great things will come out of it. The idea consists basically of making a new vanilla server, with a very low size download (400MB at *MOST*, preferably 300MB or less) and just three areas: Area 0, 1 and 2.

Then we go to /v/ and make threads there just like we did in December. I know that you all think we will get kicked, and that will probably happen, but it'd take a long time, the mods surely forgot about AO after one year, some mods got replaced as well, there's all that thing.

I managed to get 100+ people playing this at the same time in like 3 days, if we can get at least 40 new people from this in 1 week it will be definitely enough to vastly extend this game's lifetime.

>What is the logic behind this approach?
The logic is that it is much easier to pull the trigger with a 250MB download than it is with a 4GB download. Filesize IS a problem when it comes to a wacky obscure community game like AO, we are not some triple-A production that can have 60GB and no one will bat an eye

>What do we do if this succeeds and we get 100+ new people?
We won't have any power once that happens and that's a great thing, this community needs a fresh start. We can slowly introduce the characters and music.

>What to do if that fails?
We just delete the vanilla server and pretend it never happened

Thoughts?
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>>162577167
>The idea consists basically of making a new vanilla server, with a very low size download (400MB at *MOST*, preferably 300MB or less) and just three areas: Area 0, 1 and 2.
Perfect. I love it.
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>>162577167
Just do it. We ain't got nothing to lose by now.
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>>162577167
There's not really much to lose, honestly. If it happened once it can probably happen again.
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>>162577167
Nigga we have like 30 people on ofte, and have 2 cases going on for most days, it may not be the super player packed server it used to be but it sure as hell isn't that low.
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>>162577167

Mods quickly start deleting anything that repeats and banning the posters.

t. an old /v/ HG hoster who is still upset over mods telling us to move to /vg/ and then banning us.
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>>162578005
That doesn't happen with some games strangely enough, like Rocket League

Even a single thread can get us so many dozens of people if it explodes, we just need to pull the trigger at the right time, it might also happen to make consecutive threads during times when mods are least active but we can think about that later
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>>162577167
>>162578082

Can I talk to you on skype/discord to give you some advice/opinions on a few things?
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>>162577167
You guys used to have Friday night /v/ threads, yeah? Just try that for your /v/ publicity. I know lots of people are looking to play a quick dl and go game online. I know I was when I stared playing netplay Advance Wars.
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>>162577167
I think it'd be a good idea to make another server concurrently, and do what you did last year. However, killing the current server totally and turning off its power would be a bad idea because a lot of people would either ditch or be angry that they can't play xyz character or content, so it's imperative that the servers be online concurrently.
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>>162578363
Sure: lupadim#8105

>>162578490
Agreed, I'm sure the people on the 4GB server would eventually just give in at some point and join the vanilla party, assuming it succeeds

In this game the priority is People > Content
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>>162564420
Well silly me then.
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>>162577167
We have multiple cases a day with cases going on at the same time, so inactivity is not the main issue.
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>>162578757
How much content would we be bringing over to Vanilla exactly? Like completely base game, or are we copying over all AA character and music we have now? Taking out edits from AA characters? What exactly are the lines here?
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>>162577167
Fuck off tripfag/namefag, noone cares who you are.
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>>162578950
As much as we can while still keeping a download under 400MB. That'd necessarily mean cutting all 3D and non-AA, this includes music too, most of the 3D games music would be removed.

It's not something pleasant to do, but once again, it's temporary and a needed sacrifice to achieve a much greater good

>>162578887
No cases were done today and as I talked to some people in the server I confirmed there are many days without cases nowadays
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>>162579034
I hope this is ironic.

>>162579075
You'd take out the rips? That's a lot of effort to just remove.
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>>162579156
Once again... Not something pleasant to do, I'd rather avoid it if we could, but it's either do that or watch playerbase decrease. Furthermore, it's just an idea, if it fails we revert back, but if it works everyone will agree that the sacrifice was worth it, plus we can add all rips back later
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>>162579075
Who is going to run this server?
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>>162579230
>>162579075
>let's remove everything
>that will surely keep our player base alive
>ends justify the means
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>>162579235
Lewdton and whoever the mods currently are, nothing should change on that aspect
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>>162578757

Sent a FR, can't message you otherwise it seems.
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>>162579346
He means to set up a minimalist server and do last year's shenanigans again, while our current one still runs as is.
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>>162577167
>Vacation
Oh, is that what it is?
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>>162579075
Horseshit, there's a case going on right now you. Yesterday we had at least 3 cases.
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>>162579527
Okay, that doesn't sound nearly as bad then
>>162579759
Yeah, the game is still pretty active that you can catch a case most of the time.
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>>162578382

>netplay Advance Wars

My nigger.
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>>162577167
As long as we still have the selection of all AA characters I am good. Music does not really matter to me.
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Addressing some points commonly brought up

>You are just trying to get the power again!
No, Lewdton and company would host it, I don't even want to be a mod in said new server and would promptly refuse the opportunity even if they asked me to

>We can create a specific area instead of making a new server
That'd be just awful. Forcing all newfriends to sit in a single area would result in an unorganized mess if a lot of people start appearing, they'd have to deal with many missingnos in character list and jukebox too. Even if you rearrange it to put vanilla first, which would make these lists very confusing, it's not like they don't have the ability to scroll down and get startled by hundreds of red songs and ???

>What guarantees this will work? It's such a stupid idea
I don't know, it worked when I tried it one year ago and we got over 100 people *CASING* at the same time, so it's worth at least giving it a shot I'd say. We really, really have nothing to lose

>We'd be splitting the population
Wrong, that's just an illusion since the two servers will only exist temporarily, and only for a few days, like two, there, one week at most of the most

>What would be sacrificed?
We will keep the most we can under 400MB, this would lead to literally 95% of the music list pruned, as well as many characters

>Just what are you doing Lupa that's so dumb how can pruning content lead to a better game?
The point here is not saying that by removing content the quality of the game increases, that's just a strawman, the point is reducing content to make it easier for new players to pull the trigger and download the game, that's all really, we are just making it a more tame ambient for newfriends
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>>162582237
>Forcing all newfriends to sit in a single area
But that's not the case.

Remember what Crossover Court was for? At least in your general words, to introduce people to the rest of the areas?

Same thing for vanilla area.
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>>162582406
No, the point of CC was a containment area for DR, and also so the people from /drg/ could be able to use all their characters from DR freely

The vanilla server has a very, very different objective, we want to make it easier for newfriends to pull the trigger and we want them to experience a pure, non-adultered first impression of AO like we all experienced back in December, this is a very ambitious idea where we aim to get 50+ new players in a very short time and it comes with nearly no cost at all so there is no reason to be so reluctant
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>>162579156
Proper DGS rips with pre-animations are about 50 MB each (see: Gina). Ga'ran on the Suggestion Doc is about as big. To put it into perspective, a cleaned up character folder that isn't 3D and has a few pre-animations is about a megabyte.

Shit's big.
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For the record, I see many people actively pushing for a specific area for newfriends. I am fiercely against this and I will actively lay arguments to deconstruct that idea, but no one needs to do what I am saying

I'm just warning you all: A single area for newfriends to stay in the middle of the entire server will not work. I really advise you all to not do it the half-assed way and make an entire new vanilla server for them, that's all, I can't force anyone to follow my idea, only humbly beg you all to listen with an open mind to why we need to have a server if we want this idea to succeed
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>>162582237
>get startled by hundreds of red songs and ???

>People will be shocked and afraid by the color red.
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>>162582753

No-one said the area would be newfag only you fucking shitposter, they said it would be newfag friendly.

Jesus you are fucking great at creating strawmans,
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This whole thing could easily backfire in a few different ways.
One of them being that VLS could take any new playerbase we might gain, if we gain any, simply by advertising with content from a game most people joining would remember the most, Spirit of Justice.
Once you "pull the trigger" on 400 MB, if you really want all that shiny 3D content you will EASILY pull the trigger again on two or three gigabytes.
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>>162582237
I totally agree in this one. A good old vanilla server is needed. Only AA saga characters.
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>watching one of these cases to see what exactly this general is about

Is this some elaborate chatroom rp with sounds and music you guys like scriptshitting through or an actual game of some kind?
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Finally...No more third party bullshit
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>>162583521
It's a chatroom, and it's improv.
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How about we try shilling on /tg/ and 8 chan for a week or two before trying our luck with drastic measures?
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>>162583830
>shilling on tg
Take it to qst.
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>>162583307
Your silly "rivalry over people" thinking is utterly retarded. Please think about what Lupa said again...and then read it one more time.
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>>162583894

/qst/ actually also sounds great.
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>>162583894
dnd format when
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>>162583521
We build cases, and then play them properly as you would in the games, with a judge, prosecution, defence, witnesses and a detective. RP is encouraged.

There's a number of formats, ranging from regular cases, AAI investigations, DR class trials, civil cases, all sorts. They all function differently, but I'm sure regular cases you're more familiar with.
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>>162583894
>>162583992
We'll get banned from /qst/, only actual quests are allowed.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11863770
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>>162583980
"Once you "pull the trigger" on 400 MB, if you really want all that shiny 3D content you will EASILY pull the trigger again on two or three gigabytes."
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>>162584131
I was curious if it was like a party game format where you start rounds by drawing half a dozen cards that choose locales, weapons, motives, etc and then try to accuse someone of it.
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>>162584305

No.
People sit down, grab a fresh Google documents and fill it with evidence they all agree with, wait for all the roles to fill up and improv everythimg from there on.
This party case format does sound interesting though.
I would like to see someone try and realize it.
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About 8--chan and other boards:

Yes, we should certainly do that, we could even assign 2-3 people to each board or chan so we can advertise effectively

However, please listen: Without the fresh start, the problem remains... They will open the thread and find someone shilling an obscure roleplay chatroom game that is 4GB big. Some people will download it all and give it a try, but many others will just think it is not worth the time investment and scroll to the next thread

It is much easier to make them say "ah fuck it" and click the download button if it is 250MB, that's why we need the fresh start before advertising on other areas, see?
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>>162584305
No, we talk and discuss what sort of case we want, and add pieces of evidence to a google doc.

You did just say something interesting, though, we should definitely try that as a format.
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>>162584504
>2016, Almost 2017
>4GB too big
>Where even the shittiest F2P are even above 4GB
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>>162584504
>Yes, we should certainly do that, we could even assign 2-3 people to each board or chan so we can advertise effectively

>Literally creating a shill position
oh no
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>>162584726
Regarding that point

I am not saying 4GB is a lot, hell we could have 20GB AO and it'd be just fine *for us* because we already play AO and we know how fun it is and how worthy it is of having that size

The problem is that other people will find a random shady chatroom lawyer simulator game, which is not really attractive, and they are much more likely to just say "fuck it" and pull the trigger and download it if it is 250mb then if it is 4GB

The size matters a lot on the decision making of a new player on whether to try the game or not, no one is disputing the fact that size is ultimately irrelevant once the playerbase is already established
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>>162584538
>>162584471
I see. So it's more improv than I thought.

If you guys were able to incorporate a 'town of salem/mafia/ultimate werewolf' format, you could easily increase adoption rate. It appears to already have all the necessary components to host the game, to the point I actually thought it was based on some team mafia client.
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>>162585075
We actually have that format, we call it "mafia". Most people hated it because they thought it was killing real cases, but you can still do mafia if you want
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>>162585075
We have mafia games already, actually.
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>>162585174
>it was killing real cases
Well that's a shame.

How do you build these scenarios? Just on a whim, or inspired by real cases, or just memes?
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>>162585383

All 3
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Regarding how we will prune content, this will probably be the oh-so-awaited moment where we actually compress our gifs, which can drastically reduce file size, so I really believe a lot of content can be preserved, we'd only need to sacrifice non-AA and 3D for some days most likely
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>>162585573
WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE
NO, WE AREN'T WE ANY MORE YOU FUCKING MEME
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>when your idea is posted by Lupadim
This is not okay.

doughzumamadethis, do not steal
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>>162585573
YOU FUCKING LEFT US, GO BECOME A FUCKING LAWYER AND THEN COME LATER
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>not calling all the case materials the discovery
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>>162587240
>UK?
I'm british and this offends me
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>>162584948
>creating a shill position
>creating
he's had them from the very start with athenamod and then with namu
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>>162588329
Hello Adam B $8.53 creationofnothingness(a)hotmail.com
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>>162588521
>>162588769
>>162587240
It feels good to be making fun of Lupa again.

It truly is like the good old days, remember when Adam read his old fanfictions?
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>>162588909
Oh I member!
Member when stonedDiscord posted Emass's IP in the thread and got banned?
Member when people would slowpost?
Member when you'd get together and have a case with people you didn't know and you'd all have fun and nobody would be salty after?
Oh, member Whose Court?
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>>162589487
>nobody would be salty after?
No
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>>162589487

>le funny southpark meme

kys
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>>162589582
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>>162589487
>Oh, member Whose Court?
never ever
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>>162587240
>UK?
>writing in english
>not knowing the UK's location
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>open AO
>muted
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>>162592237
remove mods
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reminder that we have not had a hotfix in all the updates since lupa left
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>>162593224
>being this insecure
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>>162593038
Fuck off asd
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>>162593430
Hey, just stating the facts is all.
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>>162595075
Nice meme
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>page 10
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>>162595075

How did they reach 250k likes?
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>>162597708
They fucking SMASHED that like button.
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any fun cases going on?
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Shitposting by an open fire...
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>>162598817
Did you bring the marshmallows
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>>162599117
I was trying to do thing here.
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>>162599168
Can you do the thing with marshmallows
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>>162599168
If you're going to do the christmas song with different lyrics, at least get the meter right
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Can I come out in support of Lupa's idea? We have literally nothing to lose, so I have no idea why people are against it. I think it's more shitposting/contrarianism than anything else. Anyone have a legitimate objection to the plan?
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>>162600010
Lupa, we know it's you.
Shoo.
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>>162600460

I'm not Lupa you fucking twat

Do you have any serious arguments against the idea? It's harmless and might save this shit game. I would give up a lot of shit to hit 106/100 again.
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>>162600460
I also support it, and I'm not lupa either. I can even prove my non-lupa identity if I have to, but I'd rather not
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>>162600010
>Can I come out in support of Lupa's idea?
It's not like it's unpopular - I like his idea, too.

It's literally just him saying he'll make a separate server, shill for it a la December, and then merge the populations at the end of the week. Whatever the outcome, we stand to gain more people. So long as people don't sheep over there, and take spots from new people, then it'll work out great. We don't need that many people there to educate new people, and he has the most experience of babying people from scratch - he did it in the beginning.
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>>162600692

Good, I just know Lupa sometimes makes the mistake of taking shitposters seriously so I wanted the fucker to know he's got the majority support here. Really, we need SOMETHING. People talk about having two cases at once as some kind of fucking achievement, Jesus.
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All I am saying is that everything would be great if only AA content existed. You understand?
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Anyone have the doc for turnabout vidya? Its an old case that I want to revisit one day.
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It's a special day, /aog/

>>>/tv/77192594
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>>162601094
Don't see it in the archives. What was the case about?
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>>162601294
LAN party gone wrong. We turned Ema into a grill twitch streamer.
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>>162601820
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Deadest general.
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I'm rarin to fug
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>>162604992
Are shotas back to being verboten now?
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How do I asspull?
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Even if Lupadim's idea fails to bring the 5000 gazillion newbies he promises, the sheer fact we will enjoy december vanilla AO for a few days is great. Sounds fun and fresh.
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>>162612443
I don't want to stir shit up, but the only people dead set against his idea, from what I have seen, are mods and/or discord circlejerkers, which is just more reason to support it. As you said, anon, even without new players we will get many great collateral goodies from it.
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>>162612443
>Some of the funnest cases I've had were back during December vanilla

I can't wait, I hope everyone will have fun.

And for area shitposting to start again, Area 3 for life. Area2fags are nothing but memesters.
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>lupa's idea is not to bait out older players to meme newfags, instead letting them as the clear majority try things out
>oldfags already waiting to flood in
You'd think someone learned.
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>>162612443
>promises
He didn't promise nothing, it was to try and make the game more inviting, not a garuntee to work
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Promise THIS!

Heh, nothing personnel, /aog/.
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Borscht?
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Hoy! /aog/!
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Area 2>Area 3
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Give me ONE (1) good reason why Area 3 is better than best area, Area 2.
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>5 people online

How do we get more europoor players so I don't have to wait until 11pm to start a case
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>>162630051

Stop the immigration crisis.
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>>162612680
I noticed this.

There was an actual discussion of the idea, then the discord got word of it and showed up to just shitpost.
AOV was the most active it's been in a while because all the people in discord who don't play anymore came just to shit on Lupa.
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>>162630278

Only people I've seen discuss the issue on Discord are people who do play the game.
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>>162630532
Fair enough, though a bunch of them did come on just to shitpost.
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>>162631037

Fair enough as well.
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>>162630132
What if we just get immigrants to play
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>>162633184
Only if you want every case to be a rape case.
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>>162633474
So we go back to January?
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>>162633474
>hundreds of rape cases handled in a single day because the judge keeps immediately declaring the defendant not guilty
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>>162612443
This, if you want to do that server do it for the sake of the aniversary.
It will attract newbies but nothing says they'll stay when almost every newbie leaves when things get tough.
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>>162612443
actually sounds like an amazing anniversary event
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Reminder to vote in Prison Godot's strawpoll.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11844624
http://imgur.com/a/8bkVu
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>>162631037
>literally 2 people went to shitpost
>A bunch
And both of them were mods, for petes sake.
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>>162641974
Really? Who? I just bet argo is involved
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>>162641974
>literally 2 people
When an area suddenly gets like 10 more people in get area at once, I wouldn't say that's '2'.
'2' mods, yes.
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How do we destroy the Requests meta?
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>>162651957
Play detective and die mid testimony.
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>>162651957
We can't because the witnesses will never be good enough.
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Rayfa is cute. Cute. CUTE!!!
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>>162652940
Not really
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>>162649008
Argo's always invovled.
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If I went to the trouble of making and ripping animations of Ya Boi Guzma would we actually add him?

Lip flaps are definitely going to be in the animations.
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>>162649008
Argo was doing his usual *autistic screeching*. Lewdton and Adam were shitposting. That's 3 mods.
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>>162653886
>would we actually add him?
Make a poll and find out.
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>>162653886
Who?

>>162653965
>Argo was autistic
>Lewdton and Adam were shitposting

You could have just said "the sky is blue".
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>>162653886
>would we actually add him
Depends how he'd look in game.
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>>162653965
>Argo was doing his usual *autistic screeching*
why the fuck can I picture that perfectly
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>>162654387
>Who?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REC7daXbjho
He's a cool cat.
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>>162653125
There's always someone with shit taste, I guess.
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So, when are we going full vanilla?
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>>162653886

I will only vote yes if you also give him Skull Grunt animations.
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>>162657043
Depends if people like the idea
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>>162659650
Clearly most people like it.
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>>162665002
You say that but most in the discord don't.
It might be hard to gauge actual opinions on this.
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>>162665861
who cares about them lmao
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>>162657343
>Imagining him giving a testimony like this.
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>>162665861
Most black people don't support the #killallblacks movement. Doesn't mean it's a bad idea.
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>>162666476
Killing people is counterproductive to bringing them into AO.
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>>162666583
Unless killing 1 person brings 3 new people into the game. Then there's a net gain of 2 people.
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>>162666659
The time has come to kill bork.
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>>162666191

I want this.
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>>162666885
The most difficult thing will be giving him lipflaps since that model doesn't really have a talking animation.
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>>162667131
could have that as in idol animation and use another talking as the (b) animation
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>>162666191
Perfect.
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>>162667131
>>162667316
maybe preanim and idle
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>>162612443
I agree with Lewdton on this.

You can't make the magic come back if your force it.
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Oh no.
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>>162669364
I want to see this in game
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The last part of this animation would be perfect for a cut-in.
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>>162673452
His expressionless face and overly cartoony look isn't exactly on the same standards as the 3D models from AA.
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>>162674054
You calling this expessionless?
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>>162674054
Yea, I suppose you're right. I'm just playing around with models and animation right now and haven't really cut anything though.

I guess a strawpoll will be needed to determine if people actually want him in but I doubt anyone is going to actually vote for it.
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>>162674342
I've voted no to basically all DR and Persona but I might consider voting yes to this just because it's a fun character.
Honestly, it comes down to how it looks in the client.
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>>162673452
But can you get a lipflap on these models - or find a model of him talking.
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>>162675925
His own model has some animations with lipflaps to them such as >>162674307 and pic related however the other models animations like the Skull Grunt dance do not as it does not use those textures.

My problem right now is digging through the program to pull and rip these animations and I'm sure someone else has already done them on /vp/ but I need the originals not the gifs in order to rip them with original quality.
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remove /vp/
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acerola when
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>>162676205
Continuing: Ultimately if I want to have Guzma's other animations have his lipflaps then I'm going to have edit his mouth texture and use the others within his texture kit.

>>162676302
Remove fun.

>>162676342
NOW
O
W
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>>162676302
remove /drg/
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>>162676205
>>162676436

Only extra animation he needs is the grunt gangsigns, no need to bloat him up.
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>>162682694
Back the fuck off???
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when you niggas gonna put Mackenzie in?
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>>162685338
YES YES YES
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>>162685338
Just realized, characters in that game don't have lipflap animations.
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>>162686045
That didnt stop Dangits
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>>162686045
Neither do dangits but here we are
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>>162685338
HOW WAS HER GAME CALLED IS THERE A FULL FREE SHIT, I NEED TO KNOW THAT GAME IS SUPER FUCKING EBIN
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>>162686319
Touch Detective. 2 1/2 also came out in US, but not 3...
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>>162686310
>>162686257
oh, well sweet.
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Post memeshots
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>>162691903
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>>162691903
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http://imgur.com/a/6Vtfs

yes hello i bring the memes
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>>162694747
>Kidsworth and the Lesbians
Priceless.
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>>162695393
I want to see more cases with Dahlia sexually dominating Mia.
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>>162694747
>mfw I'm in some of those
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>>162695813

>mfw I took most of those
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>Hold it right dere!
We still have that?
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>>162694747

>Namefags in memecaps
6/10
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>tfw your fetish is keeping you frm focusing in court
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>>162691903
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>>162696247
It's almost too funny not to keep.
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>>162696813
uh hi i'm the meme master please kill yourself???
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What cases in recent memory had the best judges?
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>>162676302
Agreed. Pokemon fags can fuck right off.
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>>162696323
>That line got screenshotted too.
Sweet
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>typing out a 2 line argument
>get rebutted before finished typing
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>>162696323
>>162698456
>>162698508
>People saving >VERIN screenies
You fuckers disgust me
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Anyone have that cap about Sahwit saying "SO I'M A KIDDIE DIDDLER, WHAT OF IT?" Thought I had it but it's missing from my folder
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>>162694747
>an ao player with a month of experience beat a hat for mod.

Who? And also who?
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>>162700518
Gina steno became Gina mod and Hat Ema became salty Hat
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>>162694747

>all those good memories

God bless us, everyone.
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>>162700726
Names has a lot more than a month of experience
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>>162700518

retarded player got btfo after failing to apply for mod
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>>162700817
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>>162701067
Names originally started playing under the name of Cuftwald and was in a bunch of cases in December and January where he fucked up causing people to meme about how Mia always loses. He was so bad he changed his name to Names and now to Gina.
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Does AO work on Linux?
More specifically Ubuntu.
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>>162701420
Proof?
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>>162701568
install gentoo.
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>>162701739
Not being a newfag is enough proof.
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>>162701920
>I'm not going to present any proof to back up my claims.
>In a general where people play pretend lawyer.
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>>162702191
How about we do this in AO, instead of here, little squid poster?
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>>162702285
No thanks, I'll wait until you prove your conspiracy theories here.
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>>162702697
Just add your squid oc to AO, which you don't even have downloaded.
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>>162702285
>>162702743
>Replying to discord shitters

It's time to stop.
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>>162702743
>>162702697
>>162702191
>>162702285
>>162702832
just ask a mod
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>>162702743
>Asking for proof means that I don't have AO downloaded

Interesting logical leaps you make. Area 4.
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>>162703029
You would know it's in the middle of a case if you had it downloaded.
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>>162703260
I knew it was in the middle of a case, I wanted you to crash Verin's ATMEY BRAND wild ride.
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If you had to take one screencap to hand over to the Smithsonian to frame forever, what would it be?
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>>162707117
I want Names to be shamed eternally.
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>>162707519
Which case was that?
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>>162703330
>Oh hey lets intentionally crash a case because XXX is in it.
This is why the game is dying. Ruing cases because someone is in it is WRONG,
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>>162707932
Fuck off Verin.
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>>162708580
>Everybody is XXX strawman
This is the weakest shit.
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>>162708708
Fuck off Names
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>>162708839
>implying names would defend verin
You do know names hates his guts right?
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>>162708937
Fuck off Names
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>>162714242
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>>162665861
Are we really going to be unable to do the idea and instead just be forced to watch it die because of the fucking DISCORD of all things? This is starting to get personal.
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>>162717460
Just hope Lupa gets it done.
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>>162717098
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>>162717460
There's a split on the idea right now.

Some want a second, concurrent server.
Others want a specific area on the current server.

Whether anything happens mostly depends on if we can be mostly unanimous on one of those, I guess.
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>>162724028
Can we just agree that both ideas have flaws instead of pretending both are perfect?

And can we also accept that this is just temporary, therefore we should pick the idea that is more effective for what it is instead of picking the one that will cause less discomfort to the main server? Aka the server idea?

Let's face it. Most people want the server. The mods and the discancer want the area, and they have an echo chamber where they keep repeating that to convince themselves most people actually want the area or that there is a "split" when there clearly isn't Has it ever crossed anyone's mind that we can make our own server if the mods are not willing to cooperate? Fucking man up Lupadim, YOU did it in the past and you can do it again. Never liked you but this idea is great and I'm putting my cash on it.

Captcha: bids you farewell
I mistyped the captcha goddamnit
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>>162725019
"Let's face it, most people want X, there's only an illusion that most people want Y because echo chamber"
???
Does this translate to "I really want X" or do you have any reasonable proof to back your claims up?
And yeah, anyone can make their own server and shouldn't be frowned upon for it, it's just a game, jeez.
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>>162725019
>>162725261
Put it to a vote?
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>>162725383
Sure.
Now, where can we vote and trust the results?
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>>162725019
I think people were freaking out because they thought the current server would be replaced, rather than what was actually suggested with a second server.

It was probably lost in all the shitposting.
Maybe we'll try to discuss it again.

>>162725416
Server poll, maybe?
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>>162725495
That's because Lupadim proposed shutting down this server completely ""temporarily"" and later backpedaled on it and claimed he had never said that.
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>>162725019
Doing a harsh revolution will just further split this community possibly without repair, I suggest giving them some time to digest the idea.

>>162725495
Even if the poll fails, I see nothing stopping serverfags from making their own server, so just give it to them.
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>>162725548
So he heard the complaints, took them in consideration and improved the idea to make everyone happy? What the fuck.
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>>162725548
>That's because Lupadim proposed shutting down this server completely ""temporarily"" and later backpedaled
Didn't see that part. Fair enough.

Regardless, the idea of a second concurrent server seems more appealing, but I'm wondering if that would have any affect on lewdton.
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Can we stop depending so much on one person? Lupa is not the only one who knows how to make servers, I've hosted one myself to see how it was and I can do it again. Not planning to let greed of 15 people ruin my favorite hobby.
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>>162725632
It's the part where he claimed he never said it in the first place that bothered me. Especially since it would definitely not be the first time that happened.

>>162725686
People can make servers all they want, it's not like AOV is the sole authority on AO servers, you know.
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>>162725748
>People can make servers all they want, it's not like AOV is the sole authority on AO servers, you know.
I'm fully aware of this, I just assumed it would be easier.
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>>162725748
>It's the part where he claimed he never said it that bothered me
Woah... Really makes me think... I hate the vanilla event now...
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>>162725992
Fuck off, Discord
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>>162726019
Are you sad that your mods abandoned you and are now actually fighting against you?
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>>162726139
>Go into areas and ask if anyone wants to be a mod no questions asked
Why was Lupa so retarded
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>>162726139
>>162725992
You people are the reason this game is now shit, goddamnit
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>>162725708
>I've hosted one myself to see how it was and I can do it again
As long as someone is able to keep it up and stable then it doesn't matter who does it.
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>>162725708
>Spend $350 Australain dollars for a month of server
>For an April Fool's joke
>That actually wasn't a joke

Emass you were a year too early my amico
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>>162729291
>it doesn't matter who does it
Not exactly right, but I'm starting to think that even Emass would be a better host considering how the mods are sabotaging the event.
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>>162731194
>sabotaging
The worst they can do is sit on Lounge laughing at the other server.
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We are, as we have always been, at a divide. A group of people want a new server, a group of people actively don't want a new server, and a bunch of people are in the middle leaning one way or another but really they just want to play. Unfortunately, there's no clear way to distinguish one group from another. People in the middle who have friends on one side will support that side because they want to appease their friends. People in the middle who dislike people on one side will go to the other side because they don't want that person to get what he wants. Now new people who are liked or are disliked are taking sides which makes other previously neutral people take sides they wouldn't otherwise have taken. The discord further compounds this issue, given that it's a concentrated fraction of the player base, which means if 5 people in there like an idea, up to 20 neutral people could jump on board simply because they are friends with those 5 people, and that turns them into a very tangible vocal minority.
That is, of course, not to say that they aren't in the majority with their opinion. There are polls that would pass whether everyone on Discord votes yes or nobody on Discord votes at all. But for the times they're in the minority, they appear to be in the majority because they're a group all acting together, people see that and get disheartened or angry that the 'wrong' option is going to win, the mods in Discord are biased toward the circlejerk's decision or worse are actively leading the charge, and that causes people to give up.
Moderation was best back in January, they kept anonymous, they would show up as random characters to solve problems then fade back into the shadows, and only the figurehead-at that point Lupa-would go out in public for important announcements such as updates, server restarts, etc. People trying to circlejerk were openly mocked and ridiculed. Cases were made and completed several times each day, every day.
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>>162732329
I agreed with you until about halfway when it turned into "The discord is a circlejerk and essentially the root of all our problems".

Friendly reminder anyone can download the server files and make their own server. Lupa even said he can host his own, so where is it? If the majority wants it like he says, they will trickle there, no? Why would you care what the mods think? Do you need their permission?
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>>162732329
>Moderation was best back in January, they kept anonymous,
As it should be.
Not just on AO, but in general.
But that's what happens when you mod a bunch of attention whores.
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>>162732329
>>162732707
>>162732968
Let's not turn the server argument in another muh circlerjerck argument.
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>>162732707
The discord isn't the root of the problems, it's the tree trunk that sprouted from the seed of what >>162732968 said. The root was modding the people who made the circlejerk.

Like I said, a lot of people don't really care one way or another. There's a group of people deadset against a new server. Everyone who is friends with at least one of those people will be inclined to not move, even though they personally could care less, because they don't want their friend to throw a tantrum. That spreads to more and more people.
The people who don't care about anyone and just want to case will see a group of people unwilling to change servers and a group of people who don't care either way and, since it's much easier to go with the flow rather than to forge a new path, will stay on the server.

People are lazy, even if diet and exercise will make you healthier it's a lot easier to just drive to Macca's or order a pizza.
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>Discord discord discord wah wah wah
Why do you care when the majority of them don't case? This coming from someone who has been in the discord. Why should you care about their opinion? Why do you have to make them out as if they're important? And again, why is any of the AOV community, including the mods, even relevant? If you want to go make a vanilla server, then go fucking do it. It doesn't matter if it's Lupa or some random faggot, just go ahead and do it and stop whining about a group of people to collect (You)s.
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>>162735237
Good question, why do people in the Discord think their opinion on this subject matters when they don't even case?
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>>162734632

You speak of this whole thing as if people on discord are still discussing this issue there and forcing their opinions onto others.
That is not true. People only talked about it for about an hour and a half when the question was first brought up and stopped there.

Anyways,
I would like to see some actual proof of community opinion because none of this is helping with the issue at hand, unless your solution to it is fear mongering, and making boogeymen out of certain people.
I tried making a Google form on the server issue, but it didn't go so well due to my limitations, so I would be thankful if somebody else could make the thing.
Three options: "Yes, I want the new server", "No, I do not want the new server", and "I want a new 'lite download' area instead".
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>>162735237
Are you thick or just trolling?
If someone makes a server, X number of people, let's say 5, in the discord will never go there. Those 5 people are friends with, and will convince, Y number of people to also never go there. Let's say 7. Those people will then convince their friends and so on and so forth.

Now, you're a person who doesn't care where you go to case, you just want to case. Where do you go, the server with 8 people or the server with 35? Even if the majority of the 35 people don't case, the majority of people would be more inclined to go to the more populated server.
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>>162707519
>people still think this is Names
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>>162735557
The only thing that should be polled is "do you want a new area or not?". For the 8th time, go make your own server jesus christ.

>>162735582
???
I don't get your point. People can go to whichever server they want, even multiple servers depending on what they want to do. Why are you making this to be an exclusive choice?
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>>162735557
This should work I think. You need an account to vote to avoid duplicate responses.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/19pFf-TtlTuxLZubCA6mqpRaEksOV8ZewpgFz0PVXU0o/edit?usp=drivesdk
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>>162736430

Thank you, that was exactly what I had in mind.

>>162735827

>go make your own server
People like things to be official.
It is easy to imagine that more people who are against a new server would still go to one if it felt 'official", was a part of the same brand, as opposed to some random new server.
Besides, the idea of a singular new area would not work really well.
We are aiming for high numbers here, ones we had around the same time doc races were still a thing.
One single area would be too little and help accomplish nothing
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So what's wrong with having an AOV Full server which we have now and an AOV Lite/Vanilla server running concurrently.
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>>162736430
>>162736795
Any idea when I should release the results? I kept them hidden to avoid the 'follow what the majority think' thing people keep talking about.
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>>162736815

Lupa originally proposed we make a new server and close the current one.
You can see why people would react to that.
And to answer your question: Nothing at all, really.

>>162737080

Revealing it on Monday or Tuesday sounds like enough time to me.
It would be nice if the mods would include the Google doc in the server's MOTD until the results are revealed.
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Reminder not everyone visits the thread because it's shit.
So, link the poll in the game from time to time.
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Well shit, had no idea AO was still alive. Haven't played since like March earlier this year.

What has been the best cases since then?
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>>162737563

and in-game has even worse shitposting than the thread at times

really makes you think
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>>162737425
>Lupa originally proposed we make a new server and close the current one.
Absolute madman.
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>>162737973
>lupa is too fucking lazy to reinstall 4 gigs of game
>so he is trying to fuck up the community so he can only have to install 400 mb
Seriously, no.
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>>162738260
FUCK OFF ADAM
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>>162737587
None, because you left. B)
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>>162738260
>posting Mewtwo
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>>162738878

That would make sense. Nothing could ever top Magic Rape
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>>162738260
IS THAT A FUCKING JOJO REFERENCW
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>>162738945
We had a few REALLY good cases lately.
Some of the new players really bring an A-game with them.
Turnabout Gamestop was a good one, as was Turnabout Soup.
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Can anything that can alter the plot of the case considered an asspull? Say like the witness turns out isn't who they appear to be, or something like that.
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>>162739085
Fuck off Verin
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>>162739373

no, that isn't what the word means at all.
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>>162737603

That might maybe be true, but the game is the only place you actually need to visit to play the
game.
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How did the corporate espionage case go last night?
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>>162738945
Shitposting is still a huge thing, though, so be careful. You're not new so I'm sure you know by now that the thread and in-game are two different ball games. This month's shitpost is "Fuck off [namefig]"!
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>>162740187
>This month's shitpost is "Fuck off [namefig]"!
Not guy you're talking to, I'm also a returning client, and it never is not this from my memory.
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>>162740187

Is Mystery skulls still the preferred "just finished a case and everyone needs to spam" song?

because i love it
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>>162741070
>I LIKE BIG BUTTS
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>>162741230

>Not, "COME ON AND SLAM!"
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>>162741070
No, but I love it too. That song has gotta make a return.
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>>162741070
>Money introduced me to Mystery Skulls
>Have 2 albums on phone
>Saw MS in MS concert
Feels Goodman
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>>162741494

I guess I shall make my return and make mystery skulls great again
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So did we upgrade to 2.0 or not? Trying to open 1.8 gets me stuck at CSS
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>>162743783
You are doing something wrong.
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>>162737973
>and close the current one.
He didn't write that anywhere in this thread.
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>>162744932
It's a falseflagging discordshill
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>everyone who disagrees with me is from the discord
>everyone who disagrees with me is Lupa
I don't know what was I expecting.
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>>162744932
>in this thread
He said it in-game originally, before posting in the thread.
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>>162745574
fuck off fulton
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Here are some of my last cents, this is getting stressful by now. And I have to use my trips here because I need to address what >>162745687 is saying

When I started discussing this in the lounge, we were considering how we would do this vanilla stuff, and yes, the original idea was to turn this server into a full vanilla one, but we discussed more and very quickly discarded this and decided that keeping this server and making a new one would be better, the only person that misunderstood this was literally [I took some minutes and decided not to namedrop, but damn do I want to], and I even explained to him in-game "Well yeah but as we discussed we improved the idea and realized that maybe keeping this server running and the vanilla one would be better", but that did not stop him from spreading misinformation.

>>162732329
Perfect analysis, that's how things usually are here

Here is my suggestion: If you can't please everyone here, then why not please the newbies? What do you think the newbies would prefer? A single area or a whole server with three areas (0, 1 and 2)? Just think about the newbie experience without an area 0 for them to relax... I remember back then area 0 would have 15+ people 24/7 (30+ on peak times), they won't have that stuff if you use the specific vanilla area idea. Do the server for them

I also suggest not rushing anything, Lewdton is extremely wise and usually makes the right decisions, I just wish he pronounces soon about this
he will probably ask you all to make a poll, or he will make one in-game, it sucks but that's how things are
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>>162745574
>everyone who disagrees with me is a Russian hacker
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>>162732329
Lewdton, the only mod anyone should even give a shit about, has never been a part of the Discord.
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>>162745359
>says there is nothing wrong with a vanilla server
>is a discord shill
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>>162746269
>[I took some minutes and decided nto to namedrop, but damn do I want to]
Do it. Is it a mod? I already know who it is if it's a mod.
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>>162747201

>Give me more material to shitpost with
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Speaking as a Discord user who supports the idea, and has even suggested it before to Lewdton, way before Lupa ever posted it in the thread, I understand the issue with the idea. The playerbase is way too split for people to roll with the idea. Crossover Court is practically a different server altogether. Plus, the second question is "if it succeeds, where do we go from there?"

But right now I'm starting to be a little angry at Lupa for using obvious populist shit to try and rile up support, and further divide the community by slinging accusations and saying "I'm the captain now." I'd like to remind Lupa that he voluntarily gave up his Head Admin position.
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>>162746269
Lewdton is wise but he's too passive. He'll see something as ultimately beneficial, but having too much initial resistance to stress over and keep the status as quo.
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>>162747574
I don't know what you mean considering how I said many times I am not hosting anything nor do I want to be a mod or anything, I just want to see this game alive again like it was back then... I also said in my previous post that people should wait for Lewdton instead of rushing an improvised server, but sorry either way

Taking off trips since it is completely pointless by now
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>>162747939
That's exactly what I expect to be honest, either that or a poll so that he can say "yeah I did it but it wasn't my idea look we had a poll"

Still, this decision is not like that of adding an area or a character, the gamble is much bigger here: Will we take an attempt at saving this game from a low playerbase and eventual death in a few months, or will we try to revert this back to what it was during the first months, hopefully with 100+ people again? there are literally no bad outcomes from this, the worst that can happen if we fail is say "oh no we only got like 15 newfriends, oh well, let's introduce them to the big server and close the vanilla one"
>>
ten
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Kirigiri mod a shit
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>>162751069
That's Aergoneis
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>>162751218

ogreanus*
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>>162751991
arguenos*
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>>162746941
None of the mods go to the discord.
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>>162753062
>None of the mods go to the discord.
Ha
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>>162753086
Show me proof that Ginamod, Namu, and Argo are in the discord.
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>>162753062
Adam made it, Argo and VVing are there all the time. Spic's there too, if you count him.
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>>162753304
So that leaves Ginamod and Lewdton?
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I want to mute Ginamod's teeth!
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>>162753584
Neither of them go to the ````community'''' discord but they ARE in the official mod one.
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>>162753756
>They don't go to the cancer discord
>But they DO go to a discord!

Way to move the goalposts buddy
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>>162754103
The goalposts were
>None of the mods go to the discord.
I got nothing but net with
>Adam made it, Argo and VVing are there all the time. Spic's there too, if you count him.

Quit shitposting any time now, Rhoda.
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Surprising almost no-one, Turnabout Serenade is ranked Terrible.
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>>162739740
Not guilty. All in all neat case
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Time for the last case of Apollo Justice.
How do you feel about Turnabout Succession, /aog/?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11877163
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case soon
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Come case in area 2 we need a few more roles
>>
case boys
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>it's a Verin gives up case
>>
>Everyone gets an opening statement
This is a better meta than requests.
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>>162764112
Even the Witnesses?
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>>162755407
That's nice. I really wanted to play, but had things to do. Hope another like it pops up.
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>>162764189
No, they got a free asspull instead.
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>>162764051
>people bullying people out of cases
Is this how far we have sank?
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>>162764797
There wasn't any bullying
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>>162764797
He wasn't bullied per se

Some guy mentioned the word "verin" in a poem

Verin was trying to talk but some people talked over him

So he quit

We all go through much worse every case, he needs to man up
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Is Verin better or worse than Names?
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>>162764797
>>162764886
>>162764892
To be fair, he is namedropped in case fairly often and there was that time when the steno was writting verin instead of the character.
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>>162765018
Worse, by far.
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>>162764892
>Namedropping in a case
That's wrong tho, while not against the rules, that is bully
>Cucking someone during their turn
Also rude, and is frowned down on, regardless of the situation.
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>>162765278
Yet he insists on using the name "Verin" and staying in the circlejerk, among a bunch of people that despise him and only laugh at him. That's the main reason I don't feel sorry for him, it's so fucking childish. If he was serious about it he'd change name and leave the discord.
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>>162765018
>Worse than Names

Literally impossible.
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>>162765372
>Tfw he has changed his name
>Tfw i went out of my way to figure out it was him and then tell everyone in the case so he gets bullied
Feels good man.
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>>162765372
Let's be honest, at this point that wouldn't help he not even need to say his name or talk ooc for people to recognize him, he would also have to change his attitude all together.
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>>162765543
Yeah, but if he actually tried to become anonymous then I would feel sorry if this shit happened and would actually sympathize. But he does not try at all. He will keep becoming a bigger meme until he is Names tier because of that. All because he likes the attention.
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>>162765643
>Likes the attention
>Leaves the case when he has had enough
????
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>>162765791
Read my post, Verin, or Verin's defense force, whatever you are. If you show signs you are tired of the bully by trying to become anonymous, people will help and sympathize. Otherwise, no, we will at most help with the bully since bullying namefags arguably ethical.
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>>162765643
I don't know if >>162765529 is just being a memer or is actually a retard who values memes over everyone in the case having fun but Verin has indeed trie to case anonymously before.
If he doesn't it anymore is for what I said, it's easy to recognize him.
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>>162765881

Fuck off. Not anyone that's posted before, but Jesus Christ. Literally "if you don't want to be ridiculously witch-hunted to an idiotic degree, run and hide and hope no one finds you".

The idea that it's somehow the guy's fault because people made a meme out of his stupidity is the most ridiculous shit I've ever heard. Someone shouldn't run the risk of being harassed just for using their username, unless they've done shit like harass others. What he's done is just be stupid, at worst, stop acting like it's some kind of moral imperative for you to stick it to the dirty namefags, you cowardly twat, you're some faggot pretending to be a lawyer, not a moral crusader.
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>>162765881
Ok, i HAVE been reading this, and trying to stay out of it for the most part.But i WILL speak up here.
I have tried to be anon, and type differently. All it takes is one slip, one time of me talking about a past case with someone or someone picking up on my typing habits, and the chimps shit themselves.
For the most part i handle it fine, and just try to ignore it. I am a sane, rational human being.
But it gets tiring after a while, and sometimes, you just want to case.
>>162765892
It is as this person says, i stopped changing my name when after 2 weeks of stealthing, nothing changed.
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>>162766208
You didn't have to leave.
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>>162766205
I am not one of the people that bully him, you dumb SJW.

Namefagging is done on an extremely cancerous extent and must be fought. It's the main reason why I don't care when people bully namefags. They can literally remove the nametag, stop jerking about their past cases and BOOM no one will be able to identify them anymore save the cases they have some obvious mannerism. It's not so difficult. But nooo, we must all provide a safe space for them and do our best not to hurt the feelings of our overlords namefags.
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>>162766438
>you dumb SJW.
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>>162766343
I lost my temper, i'm sorry.
Today has been admittedly stressful, and i get on here to get away from my stresses. So having more piled on at the end of a long day is suck. 10 tons of suck.

>>162766438
>Don't talk about past cases
That's retarded.
That's like saying "The doc is an unneeded thing, as it only lets namefags jerk over past fun"
People talk about fun cases, get over it.
This feels like "REEEEEEE fuck the namefag" mentality and it is unhealthy, considering the nature of AO leads to people becoming acquainted and getting to know one another.
I have been here for nearly 5 months give or take, and case regularly. Regardless of if i used my name or not, people would find a reason to shit on me, and you know that.
>>
What if we did a server poll for the Vanilla server and then if it passes the mods get to vote on it, and then if it fails on the mods they discuss why it shouldn't pass to everyone and then we can have another vote from everyone to override it if people still believe in it?
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>>162766438
>argoneus being this hippo critical
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>>162766438

You're gonna need more straw for that one, dumbass.

>Namefagging is done on an extremely cancerous extent and must be fought

Why, faggot? This is literally the basis of your argument but you have yet to prove why it's a-okay to harass people if they use a fucking username.

>They can literally remove the nametag, stop jerking about their past cases and BOOM no one will be able to identify them anymore save the cases they have some obvious mannerism. It's not so difficult.

Yeah, running and hiding might seem reasonable to the cowardly twat who is so passive-aggressive he supports those who make fun of people on the internet, but why should this be the go-to?

>But nooo, we must all provide a safe space for them and do our best not to hurt the feelings of our overlords namefags.

The only one demanding a safe space is you.

>We have to silence all the namefag shitlords by relentlessly harassing them in-game until they agree with our a non ee moose legion ideals!

Go cry more. Someone shouldn't have to hide their identity to avoid getting harassed by faggots like you.
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>>162766438
>You dumb SJW
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>>162766819
>People talk about fun cases, get over it.
Then people will bully you if they identify you, get over it.

I am not surprised considering the dickish attitude you are showing.
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>>162766438
Did a namefag hurt your fee fees anon?
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>>162766438
>you dumb SJW.
Good lord, what is happening
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>>162766904

Those are completely different you passive-aggressive mongoloid fuck.

>you triggering me by talking about having fun is totally the same as relentless harassment for using a user-fucking-name, you're basically raping me!
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>>162766884
No one is harassed just because they use a username. If that was the case 80% of AO would be harassed. It only happens with specific namefags.

I also don't see why you are trying to look tough on an anonymous board. This is not your discord circlejerk. You should go back there and summon more namefags like >>162766897
and >>162766942
or >>162767000
to show their butthurt.
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>>162766904
>Bullying is vastly different from nostalgia
I think you have some shit mixed up, anon.
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>>162767098

>qu-quick, call him a circlejerker, that'll show'em!

Yeah, go back to /r/4chan so you can jerk each other off about how much you hate being identifiable and change your username daily to prevent it.
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>>162767098
>Literally talking about bullying because of names
>Verin does not namefag in thread, where it is understandable to shit on namefags
>Shitting on username meme translates over to a game that involves putting in a username.
???
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>>162767098
>First time posting in these threads in a while
>I get called a namefag
The paranoia is off the charts, holy shit.
>>
If I must explain to the triggered namefags. Having a name is fine. If you start attracting the wrong attention while using a name, which is what Vermin did in the past, then don't complain once shit starts raining. And once that happens, the only solution is to go full anonymous, which does include not talking about your previous experiences, that'd be so retarded. It's the price you pay for anonymity.
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>>162766438
>You dumb SJW
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>>162767309

So literally run and hide and hope the mean anon-ee-moose legion doesn't come after you.

Yeah, fuck off.
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>>162766825
>if it passes the mods get to vote on it,
Why would the mods have a greater say?
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>>162767309
>Having a name is fine
>Having a name and me not liking you is not fine
Jesus do you hear how stupid you sound?
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>>162766825
Other people can host it but if you want something "official" we should to hear Lewdton opinion's regardless since he is the one who would have to host it to make it official.
>>
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>>162767945
How is that stupid?

If someone does not like you in this website they harass you.

If you are anonymous they can only do it once, while you two are actively seeing each other. Then you two leave and it never happens again.

If you have a name they can harass you each time you two cross by each other.

Solution: If you have a name and you piss someone off, get another name or just go anonymous. There is nothing else to do, unless you want to beat them up IRL.
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>>162767921
They don't, if you actually read the whole of my post.

It's literally the method of how bills go through congress and then the President. Go through the straight democratic process first, then have the mods vote on it to see their opinion. And then, if it gets vetoed, and the mods have made their opinions for voting against it common knowledge, a second vote is held for 60% majority, and if that majority comes out, then the Vanilla server is made.
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>People giving @162766438 aka Argoneus (You)s

It's time to stop feeding his ego
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>>162768359
Fuck off Lupa.
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>>162768130

>If someone does not like you in this website they harass you.

This is retarded. You're excusing shitty behavior because "this is 4chan". You don't get to be a shitter who fucks with cases because "I shitpost on 4chan tho xd" so why the fuck would you get to target and harass people because "we target and harass people on 4chan tho xd"?
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>>162768130
Yes i see your point. But onesided bully is not the way to get someone to change.
Have you ever i dunno...tried actually talking to the person you hate?
I've spoken to Verin and he is a very nice, semi-polite person who actually thinks of others, even if he comes off as a bit blunt or rude sometimes.
Instead of being Godot and rubbing him through the mud, has it ever occurred to you to talk to him about what makes you upset? He is still in area 2, watching if you want to speak about what he may have done personally to you.
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>>162768519
I am not one of the bullies. I am simply not going to pity Verin because I know he can easily avoid this situation.
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>>162768384
I'm not Lupa, Turtowar.
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>>162768714
As far as i know, and have seen. He demands no pity.
All he wants is the people with problems to actually speak out.
He has not played moe in 3 months, and every case he has been in lately has been golden.
He is a good player, and alot of this hate stems from past mistakes that people won't meet him halfway in fixing.
>>
Reminder that the game is not a 4chan board/thread.
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>>162768915
Once again, this is not Verin's safespace. The bullies will not just talk it out and then go full "Let's be friends forever!".
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>>162768934

Fucking this
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>>162769008
"Give me advice on how to be a better player" "Hahahaha fuck you nigger me and my circlejerk are gonna bully you and YOU WON'T KNOW WHY!"

fuck off, Syrup
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STOP NAMEDROPPING IN THE THREAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162769008
>Implying that logging in to AO and shooting him a message is so hard
>Being an adult and talking your problems out is being SJW
>trying to get along with your fellow players, your peers, is stupid.
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>>162769260
Namu.
Noise.
Gato.
Berlitz.
*_EDGE_*.
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>>162769370
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162769463
Get a real name, Asougi so I can namedrop you too.
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>>162769574
CiTRON.
>>
So how about dem vanilla server?
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>>162770534
we gonna make an area
>>
>ITT /vg/ casuals learn about RP drama for the first time.

Protip, half of the posters on this very thread hate everything. So in the immortal advice I offer this, Stop Taking It Personally.
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>>162770534
we gonna make a server
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>>162770814
Does the other half loves everything?
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>>162770814
>ITT people decide shitposting about people is more fun that actually playing the game
Protip, if more people stopped trying to chase people off, we would have more players.
I'm glad Verin is autistic enough to stay, regardless of the memes.
>>
bump for fun
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>>162772431
>FUN
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>>162770814
>Protip, half of the posters on this very thread hate everything
I hate you.
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Verin: Daily reminder
Verin: If you talk about past cases you are a no good namefag
Verin: Apparantly
Betty: Calm the salt
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>>162775306
>Not even screenshotting
>Not putting the rest of that exchange down
Wew, this is some grade A baitpost.
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>>162775489

just for you
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>>162775741
>does not have his actual reply.
So am i going to have to screencap it then? Or are you going to actually do it?
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>>162775306
>hat is this mad
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>>162775843

>his actual reply
>which just shows him being even saltier

sure, go post it.
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>>162776229
>Sarcasm is to be taken seriously now
Good to know.
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>>162776515
Jesus christ the fuck are you playing on?
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>>162776515
what the fuck are you doing
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>>162776515
Verin, this is why people do this shit to you
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>>162776515

>His email is in the screenshot

How can one man be such a fuck up.
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>>162776876
I saw people talking about a screenshot, i was here, so i went ahead and did it.

>>162776820
Mspaint, i don't have photoshop
>>162776515
Windows 7, with an old theme.
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>>162776515
Look at that poor client
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>>162776515
You're just adding fuel to the fire. Ignore your namedrops. You literally only had to use MS Paint to crop this image, and memesters wouldn't reply with
>XDDD his email is there

But you wanted people to see that, or you would have cropped it in paint.

>>162776876
They pull this shit because they're retarded, but he's literally helping them do it.
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>>162776515
Not surprising from the guy who put his fucking mobile number in a doc.
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>>162776952
>JUST NOTICED MY EMAIL WAS IN THE FUCKING CORNER
>I SWAPPED TO THE DOC BECAUSE MY OTHER PAGES HAD SENSITIVE INFO ON THEM TOO
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT.
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>>162777035
I-i don't know how to crop, i just use it for full screenies
God i'm so fucking retarded
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>>162777338
get screenhunter or something
>>
Verin. You didn't even have to fucking crop the damn screen. Literally look at it, see your email in the corner, and scribble on it until it's unreadable.
You even said you were LITERALLY USING MS PAINT.
THERE
IS
NO
FUCKING
EXCUSE
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>>162777693
Yes there is
>Posted it without realizing said email was in the corner
>Can't delete your own posts
>So now my fuckup is there, for everyone to see while i download this program >>162777520 suggested.
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>>162777852
Verin I have one question.
Do you think I think you're imcompetent?
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>>162777964
'yes'
And to answer for myself, i think i am too.
This was a major flubup on my part.
But oh well, now i know i can crop in MS paint.
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>>162777852
YOU CAN DELETE YOUR OWN POSTS AND ESPECIALLY JUST THE IMAGES IT'S LITERALLY IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT AND THAT FEATURE WAS PRESENT WHEN I HAD A FUCKING XP DESKTOP

AND YOU CAN AT LEAST LOOK AT THE CAP BEFORE YOU POST IT

Please. Take this lesson and learn from it.
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>>162778185
YES SIR.
Tbh i will be much more careful on looking before i cap.
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>>162777338
>He know how to Alt+Printscreen
>He doesn't even know how to crop
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>>162778785
Why is Leifa so cute and smug?
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>>162778785
>alt
I just have a button at the top that says "Print screen" on my keyboard.
I just hit that and then paste in mspaint
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>>162778185
If you look at >>162588467 people see images before 4chan allows you to delete them. Hell, if you go to one of the many archives you can probably see them.
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>>162778785
Rayfa a best.
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>namedropping is intensifying
>people still salt about CC
You'd think we'd be beyond area wars, "stop liking what I don't like" and elementary school tier hairpulling and namecalling, given the shrinking population.

/ss13g/ doesn't put up with this bullshit. They ban a lot of people, but because they don't tolerate bullshit, they also have much higher player retention than we do. It's just a small handful of really immature people that would really benefit from being kicked or having a ban until they cool off.
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>>162780173
Namesdropping and salt is 80% in the thread where it's completely anynomous so there's not much to do about them.
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What is going on in area 2.
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>>162780369
I just saw both happen ingame ten minutes ago. If I modcalled it, it'd have been met with the usual
>uhhhhhhhh. so what should we do? You expect us to do our jobs?
>memes
>the accused meme along, too

If they actually enforced their rules, the shitposting in the thread would disappear. Nobody who doesn't play, shitposts in the thread, that's just a meme. Who would waste their time fishing for replies in a thread of a game they don't play?

Earlier in the year, when there wasn't a psuedo cult of personality, and they did their jobs and fucked off into the shadows, things were much better.
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>>162781210

>Namedropping and salt is against the rules
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>>162780369

>namedropping in docs

this is not okay
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>>162781531
>Editing the doc to make an epin screencap
Stop, you don't need to edit shit when people already fuck up on their own.
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>>162780734
>>162780917
>Atmey signs up to just use his asspull given to witnesses to cuck miles and make maya into a man.
Truly glorious
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>>162781531
Is that Verin trying to be anonymous? Someone tell him that's not how you do it.
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>>162781643

>thinking i had to edit it

i saw it merely screencapped it
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>>162781319
That was a low effort response typical of a population headed to its death, but it brings up another important issue - our ruleset's a fucking prototype ineffectual shitty mess.

The ss13 server's ruleset's so much more fleshed out than ours, but in the beginning of the year, we somehow had more people, and moderators actually kicked and banned shitters. The spirit of the law was followed, instead of being extremely picky as to the wording. Once we started doing that, moderation here became lax really quickly, and now they don't really do anything. We a have a lot of people, and toxic shit goes unpunished. Look how long it took to get rid of Rhoda, for example. Why were they even a mod? Him and lots of other troublemakers flew and fly under the nonexistant radar.
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>>162782770
Thank you mememan
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>>162782398
Rhoda actually banned a couple of shitposters in the 2 months he was a mod and unlike a certain Cammy I will refrain from naming, he would always at least respond to mod calls when he was online.
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>>162784242
More like

>Rhoda banned people he didn't like.
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>>162785187
Do you have any proof of that? Rai was never banned to my knowledge. Maybe Adam or Lewdton would like to provide evidence that he was, and that it was Rhoda who did it.
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>>162785357
I remember Rhoda banned Hatema for a very stupid reason. I think it was spoilers, but Rhoda wast he one who baited Hatema into giving away spoilers.
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any cases being setup?
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>>162785480
Rhoda baited Hat into spoiling just so they could ban them.

Hat's a cunt but that's a shitty thing to do regardless.
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>>162785480
Saying AA6 spoilers, including fake ones, was against the rule and a bannable offense. In addition to that, Hat was warned by Adam and then subsequently given a temporary ban by Lewdton while Lewdton was streaming Portal 2 co-op with ShadowsCross. Baited or not, that was Hat's third time of breaking a very clear rule, and Lupa could have overturned that ban at any time if he felt at all that Rhoda was over the line
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>>162785801
I did overturn the ban because I thought it was extremely unfair

Hat just made me ban him again immediately after though by spoiling again, he was way too angry
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How can a hat be so angry?
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>>162785939
fuck off vving you didn't do shit
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>people still mention Rhoda
>they just whined to Lupa constantly to get mod
>they baited spoilers and got the person banned
>they have a truck load of drama involving them from outside of AO
>blackmail

Lupa just didn't know any better before modding them. But damn was that a mistake.

Why do people keep bringing him up? They left AO enitrely already. I hope.
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>yfw Logical Chess in court
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>>162786656
merely a jest
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>>162786457
>Whined constantly

OOOOOOOOOOOB-jection! He sent two messages to Lupa. One saying there was a period of time where no mods were online, and one saying he would be happy to fill that slot if Lupa wanted him to. Everything else about him being a shitty individual is correct, and every choice Lupa could have made for a mod would be better than Rhoda. Well, except maybe Gato. Most choices Lupa could have made would be better than Rhoda.
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>>162786825
one of these days I'll see LC in a real case
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>>162786878
>>162786457
I actually confirm Rhoda would ask to become a mod practically every single time we met in-game, that wasn't exactly the main thing that made him a mod, but instead the fact he was regularly online during night times where barely anyone else could consistently stay online
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Please explain something to me. Is ()'s used for thought text, and []'s used for teamchat? When is bluetext used?
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You're all autistic please kill yourselves.
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>>162787664
I know I am, but what are you?
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>>162787662

() and [] is both speaking to bench, just preference. Blue text is thoughts.
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>>162787765
Ok, thanks. Just checking, is there any use for parenthesizing bluetext?
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>>162787210
>implying an anonymous person's claim means anything
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>>162787886

It's usually done to make it clear you're thinking to yourself.
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>>162787210
>gets mod to be o nduring a certain time
>they drop their schedule in like a week
>they're on during the opposite time along the line

Lupa is too pure for the manipulative people of AOV.
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>>162788041
that actually happened with most of them...
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>>162788041
That's what happened with Argo not Rhoda
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Inferno cop here, multiple blue screens. Shit's dead, resting in pieces.
Sorry
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>group finishes a room
>doesn't reset the penalty bar when done
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I think we should add sprites for Nani from Lilo and Stitch in. I think she would be a great addition to the game, both in a fun and sexual way. The sprites she has in Lilo and Stitch 2- Electric Boogaloo would be a perfect fit in.
She even comes with her own "Objection!" line straight from the game.
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>>162790449
Hi, new player Caesar. I agree with your statement about Lano from Nali and Stotch, and I certainly am not Iris haha
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>next update is going to add 12 characters

holy fug
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>>162791916
who are they?
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>>162791983
Mostly DR.
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>>162791983

Garan
SoJ Apollo Witness
SoJ Blackquill Witness
SoJ Trucy
SoJ Phoenix
Full Susato rip (not just bench emotes)
Marlon Rimes
Jezail Brett
Full Leifa rerip
Support Asougi
Defense Dhurke
Prosecutor Inga
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>>162792050
You pizza shit, none of >>162792138 are DRs.
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How do you global chat? Is that just chatting in master chat or a command?
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>>162792827

type /g Message in server chat
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>>162793008
thnks
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Reply your facebook page, I'll invite you to my super secret facebook group
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>3 Miles case
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>>162794642
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>>162781531
>Shota Miles

Kidsworth number one here, did someone finally take my place after my absence?
It better not be Codyfag.
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>>162796275
Disgruntled took your place man
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>>162796614
Oh, so I wasn't Kidsworth number one then, Disgruntled is me.

Who's the newest guy? Hope he's doing alright.
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>>162796913
The newest guy uses Disgruntled as his name OOC
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>>162797136
...What?

I haven't opened AAO in months.
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>>162786457
>people still mention Rhoda
It's the obvious example. Rather than naming literally who's who left in their own time, and people who still play who could be reformed by a kick or even a red text talking-to, naming Rhoda clearly illustrates the time when moderation began to break down.
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>>162797260
The fuck you doing here then?
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>>162797424
Checking in. Is there a Disgruntled currently online right now? Am I being impersonated?
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>>162797512
>Impersonated

literally who are you?
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>>162797323
I think what killed the moderation was the discord that 80% of the moderation participates, it created some obvious bias. The way they are handling the vanilla idea shows.
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>>162797512
>Am I being impersonated?
There's plenty of disgruntled and salty people online. You'll need to be more specific.
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>>162797668
Hold on, I'm confused. There's currently a Shota Miles judge, and since Kidsworth used to be the character I'd always play, I (semi-jokingly) asked if someone took my place on that, and you're saying Disgruntled is the person currently doing it. But I'm Disgruntled, and I'm not there.

Maybe I just need sleep, I dunno.

>>162797808
Point taken.
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>>162797323
Other than Lewdton, Adam and Argo Rhoda was the best and most useful mod. Don't even try to dispute that.
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>>162797781
I can agree to an extent. It's not all of the discord, but it's definitely some few shitposters in there. The guards of a jail shouldn't really be playing pool with the inmates.

>>162797902
>Don't even try to dispute that.
I don't recall Rhoda doing anything other than using his status as a mod to give himself presence. Redtexting when he really shouldn't have, because people quite rightly called him a creep because he did or said something creepy, or throwing red text tantrums for no reason at all because people wouldn't listen to his sick ramblings. I've got at least three instances in memory of him doing that to me, and I'm a literal who.

The others you mentioned are better. But the thing is, they only respond to very blatant infractions. They all do Leifa removal, but when it comes to things like
>stop this guy shitposting in the case
>stop this guy namedropping in a case
>stop this guy from being a humoungus cunt to everyone in the case
>make this guy stop talking about tranny ass gay stuff holy shit
they're suspiciously meek and reluctant to do anything. Adam and Argo do try, but they're reluctant to do anything in the absence of rules because faggots like this >>162781319 will jump them for not "following" the rules. As >>162765354 says, it's not against the rules, but it's definitely wrong. So, why isn't it against the rules when it definitely should be, and should be enforceable? Why is our rule list so empty? It's barely two pages and repetitive in its useless clauses.

Case time is definitely bad, but this is the other half. This creates an atmosphere nobody wants to be in. We should have the same population as the ss13 general (as we did in the beginning of the year), and a ban and kick list as long, but there's no way we do. RP and a disruption free atmosphere are more important to us than it is in chaos central ss13, so why are their moderation tackling it better than ours? It doesn't make a lick of sense.
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The /vg/ ss13 server's rulelist is Miles Edgeworth more fleshed out than ours. They have admin notes and other extremely useful tools - things that don't even require playing with Byond's mysterious code. We have hardly any rules, and we have hardly any gucci moderation tools, it's not surprising we have some real troublemakers about.

So well pruned is their population, that their moderation team can afford to not be on all the time, because they look after themselves. They know they can always easily report things later, and know that they will be solved and treated seriously. Most of our modcalls have their contents forgotten about, so repeat offenders can repeatedly offend, until someone remembers enough recent troublemaking history to actually do something about the modcall and not simply reply
>it's fine, there's nothing wrong, it's normal for people to shitpost and make the game really uninviting.
Once, maybe, but not they can't get away with it every single time they're on. Of course there's no guarantee, because it's not in the rules to begin with. why should someone reach levels of Rhoda notoriety before getting a good ban? Is that the standard? You need to be a sick fuck for 6-8 months before the moderation team will consider banning you, because it's not in the rules?

Reform is so long overdue in this regard.
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>area 2 literally talking about ERPing and fetishes

AND YOU SAY THE CIRCLEJERK ISNT REAL????????
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Why does v1.7.5 not work properly? I can't connect with it.
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>>162799374
>Make this guy stop namedropping in a case
I agree completely.
Ever since i saw that screenie of the greg using Verin's real name to insult him in case, i have realized we needed people to take this problem more seriously.
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>>162801703
Oh you mean this one.
Yeah, i dunno why this got screenshotted. This is a flagrant disregard for others, and should not be tolerated,
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>>162801439

The server got updated to 1.8 a few months ago.
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What background does lounge use? It glitches for me.
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>>162802825
Regular court with a dash of yuletide spirit.
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>>162801703
>>162802112
When did we turn into tumblr?
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>>162803139
If it's the Christmas courtroom. For some reason, it does not show up when I enter the lounge.
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>>162803186
When people started namedropping in cases.
It's fucking retarded, and people should be ashamed of doing it.
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MEMESHOTS
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>>162801703
It's gotten out of hand, and yet people chastise me for saying there should be a rule against it or it be made explicitly enforceable by mods. But right now they just brush it under the carpet, or point out that a foolish minority of people (Verin) make it easier by replying to the idiots who do it.

>>162803186
It's not even tumblr, I don't care about this Verin guy, but every time I see him or anyone else get namedropped it's a spit in the face to what we're trying to do. RP relies on cooperation to make and maintain an atmosphere. When people are dragging OOC names and OOC conflicts IC, why should I even case? To avoid this namedropping IC breaking shenanigans, I'd have to avoid Verin, but also the three troublemakers who namedrop him consistently and bait him into doing stupid things - and I don't know who they are, so good luck with that. And then there's the matter of the other grey masses I don't know, who think it's okay to namedrop and shitpost in cases. It's just not fun to be in cases with these kinds of people, because they also don't RP, and they just straightup talk in that same generic confrontational angry way, and sprinkle in shitposts. This is only fun to those kinds of people, and they will wring our server dry of fun.

That Greg screenshot should be a ban, really. That's proof of being case disruptive and immersion breaking, isn't it? I certainly wouldn't like to see it in a case of mine. One of the only gucci tools mods have at their disposal are logs, so, shouldn't those be used, I don't know, now, maybe? The Greg needs to stand and face the wall for a while, like a kid, and think about what he's done, and why it shouldn't be done in cases or the rest of the game at all. You use OOC names in OOC. IC, you're Kazuma Asougi (カズマ・アソーギ(亜双義 一真 )) - OOC, you could be spaghetti bolognese. In the beginning, they stayed separate. Why are we getting spaghetti in our samurai now? Enforcement when?
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>>162803317
It's broken for me, too, and I don't know how to fix it.

I talked in the lounge a few days ago, and the only suggestion that came up was to check your background folder, and then reinstall. I haven't tried reinstalling, but the background's obviously fine because it works in the other areas, and nothing else seems to be broken. It's not much of a loss, but still.
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>>162807201
The background came from the guest update. I think it's called default_christmas.
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>>162807560
I made a duplicate of the christmas folder, and gave it that name. It works fine, now. Thanks.
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>>162806376
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>>162806948

Fucking

THIS
H
I
S
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>>162806948
Greg from that case here. I realized that what I did was pretty fucking stupid and took a break for a bit to vent all my salt. I agree with you 100%, IC should be kept free of the OOC shit.
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Do you have this feeling, were you read the thread and you're like "What the fuck, those aren't the people i play with!" Like, they complain here about a person, but when the person is IG, they talk nicely to him but shit on his back in the thread... Why?

Like the thread is a whole other world. And i can understand why we don't get some new fresh blood with the amount of shitposting and retard here...
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>>162806948
>>162811962
Poll it.
>>162815462
Almost always.
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The update is in the process of uploading, you can see the change log here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RcE-TH3URbQEeSNwf-9LQxpyRXGfFOF_KdjH4wMTfAw/edit#heading=h.xr75slq3g1z0

New Characters:
Mikotoba Susato
Mikotoba Susato the Legal Assistant
Mikotoba Susato the Defense Attorney
Miriam Scuttlebutt
SoJ Wright
“SoJ Wright”
SoJ Witness Apollo
SoJ Witness Blackquill
Ga’ran
Jezail Brett
Marlon Rimes
Defense Dhurke
Defense Helper Inga for some reason
LeGodot
SoJ Trucy
Rayfa Padma Kurain
Defense Assistant Samurai Kazuma Asougi
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>>162818243

>bible quotes are back

i've missed them
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>>162818243
>Rimes
Yes
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>>162818243
the box is finally here
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>>162799374
You aren't a literal who to me, ValVerde
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Don't forget to vote in Prison Godot strawpoll!!!
Strawpoll - http://www.strawpoll.me/11844624
Sample - http://imgur.com/a/8bkVu
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llopwarts todoG nosirP ni ot tegrof t'noD

42644811/em.llopwarts.www//:ptth
- elpmaS
uVkb8/a/moc.rugmi//:ptth
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>>162820452
>>162820905
Upside-down Prison Godot poll when?
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>>162820953

67118811/em.llopwarts.www//:ptth
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>>162821208
What's with this sandnigger language? ARGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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New thread

>>162821623
>>162821623
Thread posts: 751
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