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/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

Why is Southsea Captain underpowered in comparison with Murloc Warleader edition.

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Previous thread >>162393795
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CHAMPIONSEN
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Hearthstone meta report for the next 4 months

ME SHAMAN
ME GO FACE

>ME WARRIOR
>ME GO FACE

ME RENOLOCK
ME PRAY FOR RENO

ME ROGUE
ME GO FACE
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>>162441061
I'd like and subscribe should that happen.
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>Craft Frandral
>mfw

I've been playing Druid like a fucking chump this whole time holy shit.
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>G2 will win again

tempotards and trash9 on suicide watch
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is forsen tall or are those just short people
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Is Pavel a putinlike manlet, or is Forsen like 6'3''?
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>>162441208
They're all manlets.

I wish I was a pro at hs so I could go to tournaments and tower over all of them desu
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>>162441248
double power fantasy
if only you actually were tall and good at the game
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>>162441231
>6'3''
>average anywhere in the world
this is bait.
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0-4sen xD
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BANE?
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>>162441003
The logic behind this is that murlocs were generally underpowered regarding stats. As a race and as the basic set.
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>>162441291
It's not that unlikely. Most HS players are <6 feet. Reynad and Forsen always look like giants compared to others.
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>teching in crazed alchemist because I'm facing Doomsayers
>it's mirror pirate match
>use Crazed Alchemist on my 1 mana 3/2 pirate thinking it will work like it works with every other fucking card and buff so it will swap to a 2/3 and get +2 attack thanks to my weapon
>it's just a 2/3

Fucking hell Blizzard. Fix your shit.
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>>162441519
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>>162441519
kill ur self aggroshitter
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>>162441594
>not playing the thinking man's deck
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What's the rating on Arcane Giant Rogue? Tier 3? It seems like a decent enough deck for me, only loses against two succeeding hard board removals and hard aggro.
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FACE
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>>162441519
The stat gain is a battlecry not an aura which is why Mirror Image also makes a 3/2.
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Is this the most boring expansion ever or what
It's just statstone and the potion twist is not a twist
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Is second rate bruiser good?
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DO IT DAD POGCHAMP
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>>162441716
It's not a battlecry though
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c4mlann is so low energy holy shit
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>>162441756
well it stop aggro
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>>162441716
What the fuck are you talking about
STB has no battlecry and swapping a 1(+2)/2 minion stats should always result in a 2(+2)/3 minion
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>>162441716
No it's an aura. It doesn't say battlecry and it loses the stats when you lose the weapon. Gains them back when you equip a weapon.

It behaves like a Battlecry for crazed alchemist, but not for the actual effect. So it's a bug.
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>>162441796
>>162441845
>>162441849
It's just Blizzard having text inconsistencies again don't worry about it. It's a battlecry, it just doesn't SAY it. But you can figure it out from how it works, right?
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>>162442184
It's not a battlecry though, if it was it wouldn't alter after the fact of being played.
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>>162442184

You simply have to be baiting.
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>>162442184
>When you have a weapon
>Small-Time Buccaneer is 3/2
>When you don't have a weapon
>Small-Time Buccaneer is 1/2

If it were a Battlecry it would act just like Bloodsail Raider, but you're just talking out of your ass and I've been baited into this obvious answer so whatever
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>>162442184
No, it's not a fucking battlecry. It doesn't behave like one. If it was a battlecry the +2 attack would stay permanently. But it doesn't. He loses it when your weapon breaks and gains it again when you equip a new one. Battecries are a one time activation effect. This one is an ongoing effect. An aura.
But it behave inconsistently only when the stats are swapped. The aura completely stops working.
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>>162442297
Miracle is favored vs. reno one way or another.

But Forsen is playing some aggro pirate shit.
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>>162442297

Miracle is the only surefire cure for Reno because it's super fun and interactive with its OTK combos.
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>>162442313
>>162442301
And the wording is also perfectly consistent, there's a "while" in there which leaves no doubt
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>sap in pirate rogue
This seems extremely wrong to me
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>>162442415

Taunt is cheat. Remove taunt from board.
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Make it stop
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>>162441756
it's the reason you don't see senjin anymore, good enough for ya?
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>forsen winning with ghetto pirate rogue
what
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>>162442464
>heroiczny cios

I think your client may be corrupted.
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>>162442415
Enemy has taunt?
Still go face. I would add a Sap into my Pirate Warrior if I could. 2 mana to go all face isn't bad.
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>>162441003
Murloc Warleader is a symmetric effect and buffs the enemy board as well. Southsea Captain only buffs yours. It's a risk/reward thing.
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>>162442702
not anymore
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>>162442702
>Murloc Warleader is a symmetric effect and buffs the enemy board as well

changed
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FORSEN BOYS!!!!!!!!!
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SSS
SSS
STTOTSTTTT
STOOOOOOOOOOO
STOOOOOOOORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS
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FORSEN IS BACK
lmao
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karma

karma for blizzcon
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world champion gets rekt by literally twitch celebrity
best expansion ever
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FOR
SEN
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>tfw outpaveled by a professional twitch memer
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>b-but dragonfire potion is better than holy nova
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Forsen's bantz are pretty gud
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>i dont give a flap my neighbor

what did he mean by this
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>>162442313
>No, it's not a fucking battlecry. It doesn't behave like one.
Oh yeah? Then explain Mirror Entity.

> If it was a battlecry the +2 attack would stay permanently. But it doesn't.
Clearly a bug. Did you report it to Blizzard yet?
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Renolock sucks, how is it tier 1 on memestorm?
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>>162443309
the tier list reflects Reynads pet decks
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>>162443309
explain why you think its bad
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>>162443375
Not him, but I've been playing for a while and I must be doing something wrong because I've been losing game after game, to lower tiered decks. But then again, I don't have a bunch of leggos that go into that deck, so I guess that's why I can't win.
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How to rogue?
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look at me.

I'm the SMOrc now.
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>>162443505
Tier doesnt mean you autowin against worse decks, it just reflects favorable matchups. There is a negligible difference between tier 1 and 2.
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>>162443375
Autoloss vs jade druid, have to get lucky early game vs aggro.
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what is lifecoach's haircut called
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ekop was a thing in beta hearthstone right? How come he doesn't stream
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>>162443861
he does stream he gets like 50 viewers though
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>>162443592
>devolves your edwin
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>>162443634

I know this is bait but, still. If you really think that hearthstone have difficult mechanics whatsoever, you should try to play at least one other card game in your life muricunt.
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Forced to play hunter for stablemaster quest. At least got me something.
Place your bets.
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>Dragon Pirate Warrior

What the fuck is this decklist
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post your OCs please
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Made me laugh
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>>162444357

No, fuck off. OC are shit. Create a thread elsewhere and wait for two hours to have some posts like the sad little lonely cunt you are.
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Tavern brawl sure is fun as a new player against people with tons of legendaries and cards that favor the current rules, a true fun mode
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>open game
>start playing decks at rank 5
>die on turn 4 or 5 to aggro with all decks
>close game at rank 6
>"maybe tomorrow"
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help me improve my deck /hsg/
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rate my meme in progress
god help me I feel like crafting weasels and another dirty rat and acutally playing it
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>>162444574
good post
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What decks is devolve actually useful against?
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>>162444709
do you have Morores and some of those stealth sensai
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>>162444835
N'Zoth Warrior
So basically only good if you play against Fibonacci
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>win 4 games in a row
>lose 4 games in a row immediately after
>b-b-b-but forced 50 is just a meme!!!
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>>162444835
Non right now.
Tribes besides pirates are dead. Deathrattle aren't used en-mass. Goons are too meme and rare to tech in against them.
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>>162444835
goons paladin
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>>162444884
I do but I just want to meme people with dirty rat combos into minions that one-shot whatever dirty rat pulled, not really going for any special stealth synergies beyond that.
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>Both playing aggro
>roping from turn one
Now this is the hearthstone I love to see
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>>162445112
well the sensei could at least help your minion not to die too fast. Just a thought
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>Both games decided by a top deck
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Aya and Patches two good cards to craft for general use?
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>>162445654
yes

I'd say that, for flexibility, Aya, patches and Kazakus are the best crafts right now to cover a wide range of decks
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>>162445654
yeah but make sure you acutally want to play the archetypes they're played in.
Aya for Jade
Patches for aggro (+miracle rouge)
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>>162445654
Aya is a meme, patches is less meme, but still proven.
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is it worth crafting Good Rag to play this deck? I have ~5k dust so it wouldn't break the bank too badly.
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>>162445760
>Aya
>flexibility
>literally only goes in jade Druid which isn't even a good deck
>can go in other way shit tier decks I don't even know the name of
Wew
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>>162445854
dies to aggro
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>>162445854
I'm gonna say no anon, unless you really want to play that deck.
They usually run two forbidden healing so even more dust if you're missing that.
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>>162445885
>He didn't watch the tournament with the guy using Jade Rogue and Jade Shaman both with Aya included
If anything Aya is at her weakest in Jade Druid.
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>>162445854
Well first you're gonna need Nzoth and some other cards and to drop the curator
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>>162445885
It goes in aggro shaman desu
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>>162441003
I don't have fandrel, what suggestions do you guys have for this list? Seems pretty complete right?
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>>162445965
Yeah right, there is only 1 forbidden in like ever list, you high nigga
>>162445972
>Aya does okay in 2 meme decks
Stop da presses!
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>>162445885
Jade Pirate Shaman could use Aya. I think.
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>>162441003
>restores your hero to full health if your deck has no duplicates
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>>162446076
If you aren't beholding the rage of the Firelands don't even bother playing Druid desu, he's the best card in a any druid deck by far, and I mean fucking far senpai
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>>162446081
>Jade Rogue
>Meme deck
Whatever you say buddy. Keep playing your "hardest deck in the game" daddy Reynad told you to play so lovingly :^)
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friendly reminder to tech one ed to destroy dragon priests
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>>162446148
>still lose because rest of your deck is shit
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hardest
deck
in
the
game
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>>162446220
?
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>>162446101

It's pretty good with claws and lightning, but it's not necessary.

I like it though
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Holy shit, we all thought that priest is gonna own this meta, but actually it is not. You guys thought Pirate warrior is cancerous, but at least it is fun for some people and for those that don't find it fun, at least the matchup is fast and you can go to another game in less than 2 minutes.

The real cancer of this meta is the renolock.

>Insane amount of board clear means you can never have a board against him
>Bring him down to critical range, he can just reno up
>After you chip him down to final have a chance to kill him
>YOU FACE JARAXXUS
>If any of these doesn't happen, it is because he already killed you with Leeroy PO faceless

How the fuck Blizzard think it is ok for a deck that can do everything? It is good against both aggro and control and beat midrange like it is no one's business. It can OTK you and it has lots of sustains into the late game. They should nerf some of the basic and classic cards of warlock like PO and hellfire so that this cancer will at least stop when the set rotate out.
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>>162446246
I thought that was arcane giants warrior
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>>162446081
not the good versions anon, he's a recent tourney anyfin list

https://twitter.com/StanCifka/status/806241440162516993
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>>162446167
Seems to be working pretty well for me bro
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>>162446189
>jade rogue
>not a fucking huge meme
Literally doesn't beat a single fucking deck in the game, you're retarded, go jerk off to Valera more
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>>162446380
no 1drop heal girl? shit list.
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>>162446380
I would argue that Ivory Knight is a suitable substitution for one Forbidden Healing. It offers less healing overall, but provides additional value and some board presence. Double Forbidden is probably better for Fatigue/N'zoth decks.

It's a preference, really. I also like the Curator for the additional body and tutoring.
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>>162446367
bro hes not gonna draw those relevant 1 ofs every game bro lol!
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>>162446367
>the real cancer
why does this general that any decks that works is cancer. for fuck sake
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>Leddit complains about Rogue not getting anything
>Rogue is strong as both aggro and miracle now
>While Hunter and Paladin are non existent on the ladder

I think next patch they really should give hunter a real legendary from expansion and paladin a sticky minion that can actually make it to the next turn to let paladin buff it.
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>>162446601
Blizzard is conditioning redditors to hate Reno so they won't be mad when he rotates out with next set.

As you can see, it's working.
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>>162446506
what would you cut for her?
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>>162446505
>Frog poster being dumb
No surprise there. I have been having success with both Jade Rogue and Jade Shaman, although both my lists are teched vs aggro, so they just farm Warriors and other pirate niggers. They're still fast enough to win against Reno decks, but I prefer using Secret Mage to get easy wins vs Renolock.
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>>162446380
>DIS 1 guy who runs 2 forbidden healing is right and everyone else is wrong
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>>162446694
one forbidden meme and I guess an acolyte
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post 'em
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>>162446663
>paladin a sticky minion that can actually make it to the next turn to let paladin buff it.
Paladin deserves jack shit. It is the one class that makes the game not fun whenever it is good.
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>>162446718
Wow, must be rough up there at rank 18
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>>162446601

What? Did you read my post? Or you just want to chime in to express your precious opinion because you saw the word "cancer"?

I clearly implied that priest and pirate warrior are strong and work on ladder, AND they are not cancer. Cancer is when you can do anything and everything without any punishment. All deck should have a weakness and cannot be unbeatable. Last expansion renolock's only weakness is early board clear and heal, but with mistress, potion and kazakus they solved this problem and now the entire deck has no weakness at all and stomp the ladder hard.
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>deck gets 1-2-3 curve
>becomes meta
>deck losses 1-2-3 curve
>becomes unviable
Really makes you control the board
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>>162446815
I'll remake my normal decks after breakfast.
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>check meta snapshot
>shaman and warrior of 5 turn games
>warlock of infinite win conditions
Guess I'll stick to the daily brawl until next expansion.
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What is the best deck?
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>>162446829

> It is the one class that makes the game not fun whenever it is good.

You mean warrior. Oh wait warrior is always good and never drop below tier 1 since beta!
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>>162447038

Renolock

It is after all the hardest and most skillfull deck that OUR GUY Reynard used to become a GOD of Hearthstone
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>rogue discovers anuburak
ill be glad that tgt is soon gone desu
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>>162446792
>DIS 1 guy who plays in tournaments for a living
>vs the horde of netdeckers you're copying from
probably

>>162446796
so you're gonna cut a heal and card draw for a worse heal and some minor board presence.
In a deck that runs multiple board clears.

questionable anon, questionable.
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Why are people even bothering to play this shit game that aren't Shaman?

I guess they enjoy wasting their time racking up Ls.
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>>162446815
i'm probably getting gold elf this expansion.

>>162447130
but he's literally only good against fatigue warrior and afk people, and fatigue warrior is extinct due to jade.
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>>162447150
B-but Renolock is tier 1!!111!!!
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I really like druid but

>opponent plays a big minion
>you lose
>opponent floods the board
>you lose

what do i do
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>never played Miracle Rogue before
>make a deck
>alright, let's give it a shot
>playing against buffadin
>turn 4, opponent concedes after taking 16 damage to face from a 16/8 QA
Is this what they call a good first impression?
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>>162446829
Yeah,those six months of secret paladin tearing up tier 2 decks was my Vietnam.
>tfw minibot into muster
literally how do you deal with a board like this
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>>162447250
Flood the board with big minions
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>>162447250
you play big guys 4u of your own
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Anyone watching this HSG tournament?
How is the meta so far?
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>>162447250

>Opponent floods the board
>Swipe

>Big minion
>Play bigger minion or mulch it
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>>162447250
deathwing
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>>162447470
>Ysera
>not ESSENCE OF MAGIC
:smirk:
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>>162447553
I want to humiliate my opponent from the board, not throw spells from hand like some faggy Rogue shitter.
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Who /bully/ here?
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I want kazakus to fill my girlpussy
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>controlshitters
lmao
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>>162448252
>all the troggs are in wild
>it doesn't even fucking matter I cant build a spell hate deck because they don't actually counter spell decks at all
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>Dickin around at work on ftp account
>Only play it on phone at work
>Finally get to lv 20
>Do brawl
>Struggle to get pack
>Orange glow
>FINALLY
>First legendary on acc
>Get pic related
>Proceed to throw nearest object
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>>162447720
>I don't want to win games
You can be honest and just say you don't have malygos.
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>>162441621
>every card worth switching to standard is from League of Explorers

I think we can all agree that was objectively the best expansion yet. Yes, it's even better than Naxx. I seriously don't want to imagine a meta without Reno, brann, and mrglsworth
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>accidentally queue in ranked instead of casual with buff paladin
>beat jade druid and handlock and rank up to 4
>queue in casual
>lose to murloc shaman
LUL
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>>162447250

No problem because you are playing druid!

>Innervate a fatty minion
>You win
>Get above the curve ahead of time and draw insane amount of cards
>You win

Right now the only bad match up druid has is renolock. It can deal with pirate warrior even with subpar draws.
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>>162448482
>RenoLock is a control deck
lovingthisme.me

>>162448547
I have all of the big dragons 4u. Ramp Druid and Malygos Druid are different decks with different win conditions and different match ups.
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>>162448807
How on earth is it not? Is it a combo deck then?
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>>162448807
if renolock isnt a control deck then we can agree that control decks dont exists in HS
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>Lifecoach losing

Delicious
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>>162448521
Nozdormu wins games.

80% of the people that play Hearthstone fall under the category of having brain damage or being a child with underdeveloped brains. The amount of time it takes them calculate damage + mana + trades > Nozdormu timer.
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Zoo is control
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>>162449121
It's more control than renolock for sure.
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>I just got lucky
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>>162449121
Zoo wins by controlling the board so it is a control deck by definition.
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>>162449218
Control=decks I like
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>>162449168
>It's more control than renolock for sure.
how the fuck can someone come up to that conclusion.

Explain yourself. Whats your background with card games? What rank are you?
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TriHard
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Jade decks are the most braindead decks in the game
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>>162448521
You just found life coach weakness embrace it friend
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Flicki Flicki
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>walked with a lot of big guys

what did he mean by this
>>
racism
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>>162449351
>curve out then play leeroy po
>control
really makes you think
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So do I put earth elementals in midrange shaman now to counter aggro shitters?
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>162449621
Epic bait ecks dee
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>>162449351
I'm a long time mtg player and currently top 100 in Hearthstone for the Blizzcon points, learn your archetypes kiddo.
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>>162449621
>>curve out
you're playing HS buddy
>leeroy po
>what an extra wincon
not all renolock use that, I sure dont, but its just a 3 card combo to win.

As expected, you dont know what you're talking about
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>>162449621
wait are you talking about renolock or zoo
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>>162449621
>if you actually kill your opponent, it's not control
That really activated my almonds
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>>162449734
Long time mtg player here as well, and if we're going to allow such things as "Control" to define some of the deck in HS, renolock is basically the perfect example
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Renolock

>Can be control
>Can OTK you
>Can be zoo

>Lots of heals
>Lots of draws (hero power)
>Lots of board clear
>Lots of stalls
>Lots of big minions

FUCKING NERF THIS SHIT
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>>162441003
What unexpectedly decent decks have you guys found?

I played egg druid up to rank 6 then started getting destroyed because people actually started trading and everyone is playing shaman which is just too damn good at controlling the board, fell all the way to 10 but climbed back to 6 in one night with ancestral spirit shaman. I thought it couldn't work without KT and Reincarnate but its actually still quite good just because there's so many good minions to target with spirit.
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>>162449984
t. rank 20 shitter who cant play around reno
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>'..you've beaten I KEAL YOU'
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I've played Jeraxxus 5 times today, and attacked zero.
Either my weapon gets fucked, or I get killed from hand.
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>>162449862

>Forsen tryharding in tournament

Is his stream in decline?
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>wake up
>new meta snapshot out

fuck yes, I can safely build decks now
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>>162450087
get good moron
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is this good for no legendaries
trying to get patches asap
>inb4 some yurotard redditor tells me to cut coins because they see them as shitty innervates
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>>162450036

Just look at Savjz stream. He literally only lost because he misplayed. He even explained his misplays right after he made them. Maybe he purposefully did it to mask over how high the winrate of renolock is.
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>who do you think is going to lose
>.. I hope him
>really?
>I want to win
>oh I thought you meant you hope he won
>you said "who do you think.."
>okay I was just joking

Holy fuck, "esports" is so painful to watch
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>>162450119
>Oh papa Reynad pls tell me what to do!

Kys
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>>162449984
>Reno to counter aggro
>Dirty Rat to counter combo
>board clears to counter midrange
>Jaraxxus to counter control
>Hero power, Kazakus and leeroy+PO as a bonus
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>>162450248
Just counter it with renolock or freeze mage desu
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>>162450119
>Trusting TempoStorm
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>>162450237
FoTM rerollers need to stop playing Rogue.
You are not ready for it and you cannot handle it.
Budget Miracle Rogue is a terrible deck.
Go back to Shaman or Pirate Warrior, you will get better results I promise you.

t. Rogue Main
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>playing zoo
>not banning dragon nigger
this is not going to end up well
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>>162450315
>Kys

sorry, I don't talk to 12 years old.

>>162450347
why not?
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>>162450345

It is not a problem about the match up, the deck itself is a problem. The current renolock is huntertaker tier and pre-tuskarr nerf tier OP. They must nerf the deck.
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>>162450237
Do not play Pirates without Patches. Just play a miracle without pirates if you don't have him.

And while you're at it, do not play Rogue at all without Edwin
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>>162450464
Tempostorm is just Reynad ego-dump, trust (good) streamers and Vicious Syndicate, that actually have data to support their claims.
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>>162450470
Give it time. Renolocks enemy is burst. A good freeze or miracle list may beat them but there hasn't been enough time to figure out the right lists yet
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>>162450470
BabyRage
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>>162450618
Ehh, I would still use bucaneer, it's basically a flame imp
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Where did Malygos Druid go? Shouldn't it be the hero we need to kick the shit out of Gul'dan's ballsack? Is it because it loses to aggro?
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>>162450783
I know that vicious syndicate is the best, and they show you the raw data and all, but there's not snapshot from them, and tempostorm is like a feel of the meta, I know it's not particularly accurate in what's best, but given that every kid netdecks from them it's a good way to know what you're gonna be facing, that's all.
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>>162450464
>>162450783
>they need to be told what's "good"
>they don't make and play their own decks for fun
>they will never know the feel of climbing to legend with their own original deck

Truly pathetic
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>>162450838

>Wanting the meta devolve into Renolock and decks that counter renolock

The patron warrior era was 1000x times more pleasant than this.
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>>162451080
The meta follows tempostorm, not the other way around.
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>>162451183
Taking a netdeck and switching 3 cards to random suboptimal memes you like doesn't make your deck original.
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>>162451183
>hearthstone
>having a cardpool to support innovation
*tips fedora*
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>>162451243
I know, that's literally what I said.
>given that every kid netdecks from them it's a good way to know what you're gonna be facing

I really don't want to insult you but your reading comprehension is shit tier, is english your first language?
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An read on "Is Zoo a Control Deck?" If anyone is interested:
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/hearthstone/topic/20749395968?page=3

>>162451243
Do you really think that much people go to TempoStorm?
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>>162451647
>An read

Thijs pls leave
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>>162451632
i just didn't bother reading your post 4Head
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>>162451647
>Do you really think that much people go to TempoStorm?
YES.

Reynad (Andrey Yanyuk) is easily one of the most iconic, influential, and talented players to ever hit the Hearthstone scene. In fact, he was recently ranked among top 10 Legend with one of his very own homebrew RenoLock decks (currently featued on the Tempo Stormâ„¢ Meta Shapshotâ„¢), so don't pretend for even a second that his word doesn't carry major weight among the Hearthstone community. As the inventor of numerous control decks, such as Zoo Warlockâ„¢, he has proven to be a competitive force to be reckoned with.
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>>162452045
This
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>>162451467
M8 its not like you need to be certified by blizzard to deck build. Anyone can do it, just try. I know it might be scary not having Reynad to guide you at first but don't worry I believe in you.
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>>162449018
>>162449494
Thanks, but i only that acc play on my phone when i really dont want to pay attention to what im doin or need to put it down. the lag alone is 5 seconds so i wouldnt be able to play anything before end of turn.

If I played on my pc it would be auto included for lulz.
>>
You know the drill.
Who is it?
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>>162452045
There's probably been about 200 different rank 1 legends already this month, it's not a special feat for people who play a lot.
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Anyone else here like Raptors?
>8-1 from Rank 19 to 17
Will it work when I stop playing incompetent shits?
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>>162452580
I know, I build my deck on my own on the first day of the expansions, and thosedecks end up being played by streamers with lists identical to mine the next day. Yet there's no difference between the deck I built myself and a dirty netdeck, because the card pool is extremely limited and the optimal lists end up being very few. I still experiment, but I realize perfectly well that most of the stuff I make will be good, but not as good as the few, obvious decks that were out on day one.
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>>162452829
you've never done it
you'll never do it
yet you keep shittalking people who did, people better than you
fuck yourself yuroshit
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>>162452817
Noggenfogger :^)
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>>162452817
Sergeant Sally!
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>>162452963
Curse you anon.
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>>162442184
>I have no idea what Im talking about.
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>>162452963
>>162453116
The meme magic is real!
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>Lothar casting
>can't speak words
>stutters
>ugly accent
>babbles nonsense
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Packed Onyxia. Is evolve shaman still viable? Or can I use her in anything else?
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>>162453302
you're not supposed to watch hearthstone sober
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>>162452908
Went from 10 to 5 with this. Both our decks would probably get raped by secretdin though.
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>>162452817
I'M IN CHARGE NOW!
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>playing Renolock
>don't draw Reno in over 70% of my games
>play Pirate Shaman
>don't draw weapons in most games
Shit ain't fun Blizzard.
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>>162453495
Well I don't have Aya but do you get use out of Brann?
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Is there any real way to make Noggenfogger viable?
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>>162453384
Token druid
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>>162453587
Play in Randuin deck
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>>162453684
but I don't have a cuck fetish
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>>162453564
10 battlecries there, so yeah. With aya and the jade spirits it'll end the game.
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>>162453747
Praise RNGesus
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>tfw you cum deep inside a man's anus
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>>162453587
if the opponent has minions he's resistant to spell removal because it could remove their own stuff.
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>give priest a bunch of op cards in the expansion
>make their deck archetype reno so they can't capitalise on them fully

lmao
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>Patches no longer has charge

Fixed the game for you Blizzard. I'll take my money in cash
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>>162454280
Just change the charge to spell damage +1
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>>162454409
icu there valeera
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>>162453953
L-lewd.
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>>162453953
https://youtu.be/e3uOMCfopR8
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i really want liadrin but WoW is just so shit. what do
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>>162453953
It's Tyrande though! I think this was actually anal rape.
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>>162454226
You can play brainless curve priest, I mean dragon priest if you want anon its a fine deck.
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>Eloise casting Forsen

Truly the end times are upon us
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wow is that real snow bear skin?
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>>162454653
>Tyrande
>She
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>>162454773
i prefer my brainless curve deck druid flavoured for the ramp spice and ability to kill from hand. so boring being absolutely dependent on board to get any face damage in.
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>tfw renolock doesn't have his reno on turn 6
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>oh boy I haven't tried Arena in a time, Let's give it a spin what could go wrong?
>Draft an aggro deck with ten(!) 1&2 drops
>Have to use hero power in the first three games because all cards in hands are >3

AND yes, this is with full mulligan all the time
The fuck is this
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>>162454993
did you know that you're statistically likely to lose a game when dropping reno on six
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>>162455184
Do you know that he was 100% likely to lose if he didn't drop the Reno on 6?
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Finally reached 15. Now I can stop playing for today.
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>>162456163
Literally just did the same
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do I drop dirty rat on turn 2 vs rogue
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>>162456343
no they try to keep gadgetzan,azure drake and tomb pillager against lock
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>>162450237
>>inb4 some yurotard redditor tells me to cut coins because they see them as shitty innervates
But they are just shitty innervates unless you're playing Miracle. And if that's supposed to be a miracle deck, it's not a very good one. In fact, what is that supposed to be anyways?
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>>162456343
I don't know I doubt it, unless you got a strong feeling from the full hand keep that he plans to massive edwin.
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>playing Pirate Shamon
>have shitty opening hand with the 2/1 pirate, Dr477 and rest is spells
>Renolock coins out Dirty Rat
>pulls out my 477 because it's the only minion in hand
>clear Rat with a spell and pirate
>he can't deal with 477 for 3 turns
>finish the game on turn 5 before he even has a chance of Reno

Ah, tales of rank 15.
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r8 my meme card
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another 3-0 by dragon priest EleGiggle
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poor white forsen
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>>162456343
IMO never play dirty rat unless you have a plan for what might come out or you're just desperate for taunt.

Dirty rat + doomsayer is my favorite.
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>>162457197
Fucking OP

Please never make OC again
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>play wild they said
>it's secret paladin heaven they said
>aggro stands no chance they said

Face pirate hunter is the way to play wild. Faster than lightning.
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>he doesn't tech against murloc buff paladin

get a load of these noobs
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>>162458189
dark peddler
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>>162455128
Don't play arena anytime soon. Right now it's filled with the luckiest niggers in the universe who have no concept of how to play but still get ridiculous drafts. If you can somehow manage to pull yourself to 3 wins, it gets easier.
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>>162458167
>humility
nice meme
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>lightwell

Hm
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>>162458257
I'm actually just doing my battlecry daily and I threw all the 1 mana battlecry minions in the deck.
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R8 and h8
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>>162458517
garbage
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>>162458517
Give it charge.
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>>162458517
>PO it
>unlimited 5/5s
Wt least its playable with krul
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>>162458167
>not playing secret mage in wild

the new 0 mana 5/5 is pretty good.
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Third Dirty Rat Reno today
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>>162458915
>unlimited 5/5s that die at the end of your turn and don't have charge

genius.
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>>162459035
Why would they die at the end of your turn except the first one?
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>>162458967
>dirty ratting a paladin with only a shadow bolt in hand
Pretty autistic desu
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>>162459248
if it copied the +4+4 it would copy the other effect of that card too.
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>>162459035

What deck should I start the day with guys?
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Found a fun deck for Auctionmaster Beardo.

Just fish and keep as many coins as possible until you get both Beardo, Executus and Conceal. Play Executus and Conceal. On your next turn, kill off Executus and put down Beardo. Spam your hero power and coins to win the game.
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>>162459369
>he has never played the leeroy combo
Only the first leeroy dies
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>>162459490
no
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>>162459581
t. rank 20 euroshitter
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Are the old adventures worth the gold? I got the first wing of karazhan and it has some real neat cards overall. How do the old adventure cards stand next to it?
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>>162459453
Feel like it needs more draw
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>>162459490

>has actually never played the leeroy combo
It copies all the card text. You're think of faceless shambler who just copies stats
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>lose reno priest mirror because nefarian gave him fucking confuse
>draw entomb the turn after I have to use my kazakus potion on ysera

some fucking games, man
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>>162458967
>Reno Paladin with Berdo

Why?
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Playing this meme deck atm, wrecks control at least. Any ideas?
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Is Tunnelling Weasel Gang Up the true counter to renolock?
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>>162460019
remove lights justice, replace with card that does things probably argent lance for weapon synergy. if you must have light's justice, consider naga corsair so it's capable of doing things.
>>
What's the point of Sir Finley? All 9 hero powers are more or less balanced against eachother, and most are pretty similar too.
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just played a game with 6 dreadsteads and niggenfodder. worked out ten times better than i suspected, 10/10 would make a deck out of this again.
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>>162460320
it's so face decks can get hunter or warlock hero power instead of whatever useless shit they already had.
>>
Holy fuck these casters are fucking awful
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>>162460107
Why not beneath the grounds?
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>when an opponent casts Devolve on minions you've previously Evolved, it reverts them back to what they originally were before they were Evolved
That's amazing, I'm glad Blizzard added that interaction. Never would've expected that.
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>I have ridiculously easy answers to tirion with sw:d and even better, entomb
>paladin does not
>paladin literally punished by putting good cards in their deck

I know priest still isn't very good but god damn this feels unfair

maybe it's just that paladin is so garbo
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>>162460279
I'll try naga corsair
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>>162460841
I've literally cut tirion from my deck, I'm sick of fucking sylvanas PO every fucking time
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>>162460841
>Paladin losing to one of the worst classes after 3 (three) expansion

gg blizz
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I thought Beast Druid was just some sort of meme deck blizzard was trying to force down our throats but I've been playing it and it's actually pretty good. I guess that means they successfully forced it.
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How does Dragon Paladin fare in the current meta? Is it still shit tier? Has the deck changed at all? Does it include any of the new Meme Streets of Gadgetzan cards?
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reminder that Paladin has gotten literally 1 (one) playable card in the last three expansions
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>>162461561
Lightlord?
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>>162461479
they just need to give it some sort of win condition other than face. copying malorne would've been dank as fuck if it wasn't rotated out.
>>
owlsen LUL
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Horsen winning?
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>>162461129
>worst class in the game losing to priest at rank 8
news at 11
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I like this new emote meta, maybe people will lighten up and have more fun playing the game
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>>162461561
ivory knight and light rag
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>>162460841
This is Blizzards philosophy classes get to take turns being good, Uther dominated for a time now he needs to wait his turn again.

I think they intended priest to dominante MSoG but underestimated how good patches and Reno Lock would be with the new cards. That said priest is still very playable, more than its been in a long time and if there's a build that can consistently beat Reno Lock it might be very good.
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>>162462238
>that said priest is still very playable

which priest would that be?
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>>162462304
The one played in tournaments like today
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>>162461129

>mfw I was a second away from falling for the pally meme and crafting wickershit
wew feels good man
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>nozdormu living for multiple turns
>opponent actually skipped some of his turns

J U S T IN TIME

this deck is crazy fun
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>>162462347
literally only won because bans are a thing
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>>162459710
They're being phased out in a few months. So they're 100% worthless for standard.

>>162459751
Ya it's pretty shitty since you just fall over dead against anything that's aggro or midrange. But killing people with Exectus is fun as fuck.
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>>162462447
I fee like crafting him since after 3 years I still didnt open any. But I dont have a good deck for him, I'm not running any dragon decks atm and not very interested in them.... damn

Maybe in a reno deck, as a mobile killer tech
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>>162461910
I meant more the fact that Pally's only control variant is now utterly shit on by any deck that wants to use Dirty Rat

Unless you count anyfin as control, but even then priests can still discover anyfin from drakonid
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>>162462304
Dragon Priest (non-Reno variant) is really strong.
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>>162462238
Well, I don't see how they didn't realize that Renolock would be insane. The deck was few cards away from being great. It's freaking fantastic against aggro and has a good chance against other control.
It got a way to discover Mage and Priest cards, it got 1 more aoe attached on a 6/6 body. It got Kazakus that is so freaking flexible that you can put it into literally any position and he will give you something good. Even 1 mana spells can save the day when used right. They gave it Dirty Rat to mess with combo and control. Ruins face deck's day.
The only downside is the deck is slightly inconsistent. Even then better than other Reno decks because of hero power that digs deeper.

Face warrior and Shaman are too fast for most decks so they aren't viable. Renolock can deal with them while at the same time has enough burst to deal with pure Jade decks which are the bane of anything that techs against Pirates.
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>>162462485
Then try the #1 EU list
>>
4thsen LUL
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>>162462304
Dragon or Reno, or Reno Dragon. They're fine decks anon. Reno priest is stronger v aggro than Reno Lock but tends to loose to Reno Lock. Dragon priest can potentially beat anything if you curve out perfect but of course you won't always and sometimes the enemy will have all the answers but it can still run away with a game sometimes like t2 wrymrest into t3 kabal talon priest into t4 twilight guardian is basically a free win v aggro and even control decks like druid can struggle to remove all the high health minions.
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>>162462569
I don't actually run him in the deck, I just took the biggest thing off netherspite

I mean really I think Nefarian is a lot better, Noz really isn't worth the craft unless you seriously have every other legendary
>>
The more I get into this game, the more I am sure they made hunters for people that have no idea how video games work. You can throw on the field whatever you have on your hand and it synergizes with itself
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Is jade Shaman playable, or is Jade anything but Druid crap?
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>>162461498
Nothing? No one? Is it that shit it's not even worth talking about?
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>>162463502
jade aggro shaman is tier 0
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wrecking renolocks in the gutters of legend, thanks to nozdormu
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>>162461117
this.
playing buffadin defender of argus ended up being better since everything ends up huge anyways.
fucking tyrion is just an entomb magnet.
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>>162462887
>Reno priest is stronger v aggro than reno lock

Man I dunno I hear people say that a lot but I haven't found it

Here's my list, which I know is a little high end but it feels like I've the staple anti-aggro

It's kinda funny that I added in Ysera to help with the Renolock matchup but I haven't seen a Renolock since
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>>162463650
Nice quality lmao
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>>162463650
you're doing god's work anon
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>tfw the deck you've been playing the past months has now become the meta
I'm glad Renolock got all these new fun tools, but everyone who plays against me will now think I'm a tryhard.
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this is the most bullshit mechanic in the game,seriously blizz is to retarded to balance they're stupid game once again.ruins all the fun
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>>162463729
the mac version hearthstone has a ton of problems, sorry
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Is beneath the grounds good right now with all these Reno cucks?
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>>162463902
>ME CAN'T HIT FACE GAME DUMB
t. pirate warrior
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Got it off jeweled scarab

>>162464316
Against the Reno match it's good (obviously) but you have to consider there are also two aggro decks on ladder right now, which makes it a dead card most of the times.
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Do you play pirate Warrior as a pure SMOrc deck or do you still occasionally trade?
I feel like I'm having way more trouble piloting the deck right than for example Pirate Shaman or even Renolock.
I feel like there is a lot of instinct involved in making the right decisions. I have STB on field and enemy has Firebat. Obviously killing it with my weapon increases my DPS over time. But sometimes I feel like it's the wrong more and I'm missing that one damage that I would have gotten otherwise with ignoring the Firebat and going face instead.

I mean, there are obvious situations. You have a 2 health minions on t1 and the Warlock summons a mistress of mixtures. Attacking face makes no sense since it will trade with your minion and heal all the damage you did. So removing it with your weapon is the only choice.

Is it even possible to pilot Pirate Warrior really well or are you almost entirely draw dependent?
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>>162464525
Its entirely draw dependant
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>tice
>not thijj'z
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>>162464525
it's a similar style to face hunter, use your weapons to keep your minions alive to get repeat damage, use your smaller minions to keep your larger minions alive to play around AOE
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is this a joke?
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>>162465443
The description for aggro shaman talks about finishing them off with Doomhammer and doesn't even include it in the list.
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>>162465443
>>162465775
uuuh are you doubting Reynad?

because it sounded like you were doubting Reynad.
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>>162465775
the description of jade druid says it is at the bottom of tier 1
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>>162465443
> is this a joke?
Yes. I can almost accept the tier one picks, but there's no way Jade Shaman, Miracle Rogue, and Dragon Warrior are higher than Reno Mage and Handbuff Paladin
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>>162465443
>>162465775
t. rank 10 shitters who think they know the meta

tempo storm rates the lists in terms of their strengths, then gives of an example of what variant you could run if you wanted to. doomhammer is included in probably 66% of aggro shaman lists, their specific list just doesn't use it
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>golems are a girls best friend
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>>162466163
>Handbuff Paladin

that deck is so wildly inconsistent I'd agree that those decks are better, and Reno Mage has absolutely no way to win against Jade Druid, it's like a freeze vs CW matchup
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I've lost to every pirate warrior. I still don't understand the fun in face decks. Win in 3-4 minutes just throwing out shit.
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>>162466286
You dont understand why winning is fun?
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>>162466252
No one right in their mind runs Doomhammer now since the meta is infested with anti weapon minions, including fucking some variations of pirate decks.

They literally copy pasted the text from older snapshots onto existing decks. I don't even know why anyone takes that joke of a site seriously.
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>>162466163
>handbuff paladin

are you memeing? i hope you are memeing
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>tech earth shock to fuck over renolocks drake turn

working out so far
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>>162466286
>I've lost to every pirate warrior
> I still don't understand the fun
But you just said it
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>>162466527
you are bad at the game. the meta has a fair amount of oozes, but no harrison, so doomhammer is fine. shamans run tons of weapons so you try to bait the ooze early. doomhammer is a card to finish off your opponent in this list
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>>162466252
you're right, i will blindly take the word of these self-proclaimed pros like every good player does :)
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>smuggler's crate
>1 mana
>give a random beast in your hand +2/+2

>asspirate weaponlicker
>1 mana
>1/2
>summon a 1/1 with charge
>if you have a weapon become a 3/2

WOW THANKS FOR THE CARD BLIZZARD!!!!!!
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>>162466163
I think they really fucked up the list by naming the aggro shaman as aggro shaman and splitting it from Jade Shaman.
Currently the best Shaman deck is Pirate Jade Shaman deck. It's aggro, sure, but it's pirate and jade. Just calling it aggro gives off the impression of it being the old aggro deck, while it's vastly different from that. It doesn't even run Doomhammer.

>>162466734
I have yet to face a good Shaman with Doomhammer in it. There were some during the first week, but now the deck is optimized. There is no place for it in the deck. It's too slow, especially with freaking 2 mana Rockbitter. You can't even combo it properly.
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I have been watching ESPORT SUPERSTARS: HEARTHSTONE championship lately on twitch and today's match was Forsen vs. Pavel.

Throughout the 3 games, Forsen was BMing and after he won by a lucky " Mind Blast " Stolen by the Rogue 1/1 Card he got interviewed by the caster and he was very COCKY and he said I would have won anyways and I am here to beat some scrubs and he also said Pavel only won the last championship because i wasn't there. When the caster asked him what are your future plans .. He said you mean after I WIN THIS TOURNAMENT ? .. I will win the next and the next ..

LIKE WTF IS WRONG WITH HIM and don't get me started with his retarded cancer community Spamming the chat with " Don't talk to me or my trophy ever again " or some other similar bullshit.

He is such a jerk and I wish Lifecoach or SuperJJ whoever wins REK him hard next game.
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>>162466871
you don't have to blindly take their words, but they play the game a lot and talk to people who do too. it's useful to at least listen
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>>162466734
ooze is better versus doomhammer than harrison...
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>>162466734
You drop Harrison on Doomhammer if you're suicidal and want to lose half your deck.
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>>162467114
completely worth it
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These new quests are fucking stupid.
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>>162467191
nah bro play 1000000 murlocs
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>>162467014
>>162467114

if you're playing against aggro, it doesn't matter if you overdraw four cards, it's amazing to be in a spot where you have ten cards in hand.
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is thijs the best HS player this year?
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>that black guy with the stolen rims
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Is reno priest mirror the biggest cancer matchup in the game?

>30+ minutes
>opponent is always hyper greedy so they out value you
>if you go greedy you get fucked by pirates
Im sticking with guldan for my rich gains. Priest is shit
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>>162465443
How did you get that? All I'm getting is server errors.
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>>162467647
>only 1 pack
nope
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>a fucking rim for a tournament prize

Holy shit liberals are weird
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>>162466978
hi r~ddit
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I want to rim hafus ass
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>>162468304
How can you rim what's not there?
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>>162466978

further proof that forsen is /ourguy/
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>>162466163
>handbuff paladin
>higher than anything

Paladin is absolute garbage tier friend. Anyfin is still decent and that's it. Handbuff is unplayable its so bad.

I thought an aggro paladin might actually be good this meta but that's trash too since there are literally zero early minions you can play that stack up well v shaman. I will say that Burnbristle is a good card though.

What surprises me is how bad hunter is, all their cards seem really strong but it just looses to everything for some reason.
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>paladin plays Brawl
gg blizz
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>>162468647
hunter did not get jade golems for his midrange
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>>162466879

Reynard is a little cunt, but I agree with him wholeheartedly that Patches was a fucking mistake and no such card should ever be allowed to exist.
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>>162468647
hunter having a deathrattle theme is really bad. it's okay to have SOME deathrattle minions, but when all of the good hunter cards are deathrattle it makes it so you can just slam them in the face and win
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is arena getting better or worse
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>>162468647
Hunter still has no draw, it revolves around deathrattles that spawn 1/1s, and every class in the game has a billion AoEs.
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>>162469171
I can easily get atleast 3 wins in arena, so it's a better bang fo my buck now that I want MSG packs. But fuck... it's so boring man. Not that the current ladder meta is enticing.
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>>162468647
Hunter is legitimately too slow for warrior/shaman while not having enough value/card draw to beat Reno decks
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>Sitting at 1 health against reno priest
>literally nothing he can do about it
Get fucked faggot boi
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If this is the meta I don't think I'm going to make it until spring. Sticking to arena I guess.
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>>162468647
>still a summon small minions every turn and go face deck
>still has no draw
>still has no good aoe
>in a meta dominated by much faster aggro decks and Reno decks that heal easily and have a tone of aoe

It loses because it's slower than pirates to out damage them and has no aoe to stall them.
It loses because it's not fast enough to take out a Reno deck before it heals and has no way of protecting minions from opponent aoe.
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>>162469350
>*holy novas u*
>*wields the power of blackwing*

blessings to u
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>>162469413
>games are decided by your opening hand and first 3 draws
nice game design,blizz
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>>162469171

>rolled a mage in arena
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>>162469350
Felfire potion (created by babbling book)(created by kabal courier)
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>>162469604
that's not how babbling book works u dunkass
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Can we stop using "playable" and unplayable" they both have "Aya" in them and it's messing things up when I search for the best waifu.
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>>162469604
Babbling book can only create spells of your class.
So it's Holy Smite (created by babbling book)(created by kabal courier)
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Fuck blizzard they can't balance for shit. Rogue can OTK turn 1
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Is there a way to recap games? That guy played a legendary and then we both continued to draw cards until I died, it looked like a bug. What is this?
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>>162469867
just go to your furry shithole and search faggot, i'm sure you'll find what you're looking for
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>>162469891
elaborate
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>>162469969
>coin
>coin
>knife juggler
>swashbuckler shadowstep x30
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>>162469867
No.
Yiff in hell, tasteless shitlord. Best waifu is pics related.

>>162469969
>>162469891
I will take a guess. Shadowstep with the canon minion in wild, the 1 mana 1/1 that gives tou a card and only works against Rogue so that he can keep giving you more Shadowsteps to trigger the canon.
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>Poor little white boys
>>
>Play multiple face pirate cancers back to back
>decide I've had enough and build anti-cancer warrior
>only matched into renocucks now

EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
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do Reno lists run Jaraxxus?
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>>162470157
Yes.
Though combo Reno can run without him since he's just a fallback plan.
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Why is reno only 6 mana? This card is just retarded and should not be in the game in this state
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I wanna FUCK that panda
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>>162470434
Please shown on this picture where Gul'dan touched you.
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>>162470434
Because there's also deckbuilding requirements
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>>162463920
>uses a mac
>is canadian

>>162464316
It's great against non-aggro decks.
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>Gagdetzan cards have a special animation when buffing minions in your hand and special animation on them
>Mistcaller and 'beasts betrayed me'-man don't
why
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>>162470434
>poor little aggro cuck mad he can't just get free wins all day
End your life
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>>162470731
technology was not there
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>>162466947
>Pirate Jade Shaman
This sounds so fucking stupid. What a meme game.
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Headsup /hsg/ We're up against /wotg/ in a few min over at hitbox tv 4ccvgl

A win here and we qualify for the round of 16, a lose means we're fucked and if we tie we better start bandwagoning /@/
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>>162470749
No fuck you, I play control mage with basic cards because I just started this game and that guy was a full miracle rogue with all kinds of legendaries and this reno shit at rank 22. He can end his life
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>>162470434
Extraordinary
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>>162470962
It's pirate shaman that uses also the new weapon, the new lightning and Aya if you have her. That's extra minions on top of the effects. Pretty nice since the enemy most often can't deal with all the shit you throw at him.
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>>162471010
>miracle reno rogue
>rank 22

makes sense
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>>162471010
Consider buying adventures cause you'll see meta decks at ANY rank now. The game as been out for 3 years so from 20 and up its all meta decks, and even lower sometimes when people start laddering late or skipped a month.

for example I started ranking in wild for fun yesterday, and I didn't touch it for the past two months so I started rank 25 with a fully built Renolock deck.
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>>162471010
>Miracle
>Reno
>Legendaries
>Rogue
>Rank 22
How can you be so bad that you lose against these kinds of shitters?
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>>162471010
>brand new to the game
>already complaining
You'll fit in just fine around here
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>>162471226
I do plan to get more karazhan wings before spending all gold on arenas where I will no win much
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>>162471010
>I just started
>I play basic cards
>WAAAAA people have better cards than me!
Welcome to card games
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>>162471010
>full miracle rogue with all kinds of legendaries and this reno
>control mage

Just play real deck insted of dead one
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>>162470731
>cards show your opponent exactly what's in your hand at all times

thanks blizzard, wouldn't want to add some depth to the game or anything
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>brann MC tech against a flooded board
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>>162469604
>>162469879
You're both wrong, you bozos. Babbling Book gives you a random Mage spell.
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>called mind control tech
>is actually a tech card
damn
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>>162466262
looking forward to aya/golem army doujins
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It's not fucking fair that Brann has to rotate away. He deserves the evergreen tag more than any card in the game.
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>>162472373
if brann gets to stay i demand baron rivendare gets to come back too.
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>>162472373
If any card from loe stays it's reno
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why do only shaman and paladin get the murloc cards?
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>>162471724
I can respect that at higher ranks where people grinded them, but it makes no sense to face advanced decks in the literal first 5 games of the system where starters get placed. They can't be that bad
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>>162472770
>They can't be that bad
Since you cant go lower than 20 once you reach it, no they aren't. They probably just started laddering for the month, and probably dont play much since they de-rank back to below rank20 at the end of the month.
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>>162472673
Since they decided Reno decks would be Kabal's theme, I'm holding out hope that they'll replace him once he rotates out. He doesn't leave until the next adventure comes, right? So they'll probably give Kabal a new version, while leaving the other 6 classes in the dust.
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>>162472770
They need to double the ranks or something and put more stops on the ladder but they won't cause they dont care about new players
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>>162472770
The ladder system is retarded, after 30 days you get put at ranks 25-16 depending on what was your rank the month before. Every month your rank resets. This and the fact there are some people who farm rank 20s on purpose make it kinda hard for new players.
Still you can make a few good decks for cheap.
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>>162472673
reno is good and all but honestly brann is an effect that just should exist forever

doubling your battlecries just makes sense
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>>162472673
yeah what's the point of non-duplicate effect cards in MSG if you can't play fucking reno
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>>162472954
>Adventure
It's going to be another expansion. They said they want it to be Expansion - Adventure - Expansion every year from now on.
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That Dirty Rat sure as hell didn't pay off for the poor guy.
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>>162473195

Source? We just had an expo. so an adventure is coming up
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>>162473383
Well of course not. He shouldn't have played it without at the very least a Freezebolt to back it up, if not a fireball or polymorph in case he hit something giant.
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how come aggro hunter dont school all the aggro shamans and warriors?are those decks legit faster than aggro hunter?
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>>162473383
funny because if he had pulled reno instead he would be in a fantastic spot

well designed card hehe
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>>162473757
aggro hunter cant match the raw stats of shaman's minions and face brutality of warrior's weapons.
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>>162473567
not the anon you quoted but when they announced standard and year of the kraken and stuff they said that. expac - advent - expac
cant be sure they will be good on their word tho.
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>>162473019
Okay, now it makes more sense, since I also planned to rush to 20 just for the reward
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>>162473567
I don't remember where did they say it but I remember reading it. I'd prefer to get an adventure since for "only" 2800-3500 gold you get all the cards in it.
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>>162473973
>>162474073

I wouldn't put it passed them. But back to back expo would be a little too jewy
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>>162474538
anon they literally explained it
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is this expansion dissapointing diversity-wise?i crafted aya,kazakus,raza and patches and these seem to be the only legendaries i'll ever need until the next set

do i just start saving gold for the next expansion at this point?
>>
What is it?
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>>162474847
mayoy niggrfaggt
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>>162474847
Shaku the dust collector
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>>162474847
Donglehammer.
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>>162474753
I think the best course of action is to save gold until expansion releases, buy all the packs you can when it releases and instantly start saving for the next one. But do whatever you prefer.

>>162474847
Finally, a worthyKNUCKLES
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>>162474753
Four playable leggos is plenty. TGT gave us a single one. If you're asking for every single card in an expansion to be playable you're essentially begging for power creep.
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>>162474916
>>162474934
>>162474972
>>162474953
wew
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>>162474916
The meme magic can't happen twice in the same thread.

>>162452817
>>162452963
>>162453116
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>>162475156
>tfw I haven't pulled a golden legendary in years
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>>162475425
Fuck off, I've never pulled a golden legendary.
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>>162475425
>tfw never unpacked a golden lego
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>>162475425
Been playing since release. I've opened one.
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>>162475425
>the beast
>mekgineer thermaplugg
>lorewalker cho
>justicar trueheart
>Cho'gall

I never had good luck with golden leggos,at least i think i had a pretty good drop rate so far
>>
So apparently if you drop this card next to a Leokk, it gets the +1 from it in its Battlecry

Is this normal interaction?
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>>162475924
yeah, Dispatch deals damage when it enters the field. Leokk's +1 attack is applied before the battlecry takes place. really makes me appreciate Leokk a little more than I used to
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>>162475924
Yeah. Minion is played -> Auras update -> "Whenever a minion/card is played/summoned" effects go off -> Battlecry goes off. Battlecries consider the minion's position before they go off. Stormwind Champion does the same thing.
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>>162474753

I might get memed on. But I think the Don will be the only legend of the big three that's going to see long term play.


Highlander is dead after reno leaves. Jade is dead next expo because blizz never prints tribal help (see the state of kuthun). But don all always be a big body that gives a massive buff. I would craft that one and then start saving.
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>>162475425
>>162475495
>tfw got 5 golden leggos from packs
Missing is Icehowl I dusted for Dr. Boom because I also unpacked a normal one.
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>>162476118
>>162476134
Oh okay, dunno why I had in mind that it'd only use its hand attack, cheers
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>>162473757
>slow compared to aggro shaman or face warrior
>no pirate synergy because the only weapon you can run is 2x Eaglehorn
>can't help but get hit in the face with weapons unless you roll misha
At this point probably even rogue and paladin are better at aggro.
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>>162476435

>4 free legends of your choice

Nice
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>>162476435
you mirin this furfags?
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>>162475425

Me neither then I got golden panda pussy and golden genzo the duster in this set
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>>162476435
Got a golden king dust and ragnaros cucklord
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I've been playing since GvG
>golden Gahz'rilla
Dusted for Boom

>golden Knuckles
Dusted for Patches

>golden WIIIINDS
Dusted the non-golden card because bling winds > non-bling winds

>golden Alextrasza
wat do
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>>162475425
Get on my level.
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>>162475425
These are the 3 goldens I've opened.

Sylvanas was also the FIRST legendary i opened.
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>>162475425
I dust every golden I get, even if I don't have the normal version. I either want all golden or all normal, anything else hurts my autism. It's really going to suck ass when I hit golden Paladin or Shaman and have to make those golden tokens for non-golden decks.
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>tfw play eboladin
>tfw often end up with patches in my hand before I even play a pirate
>tfw it still ends up a 4/4 charge monstrosity once I play it from hand
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>>162476829
Been playing since beta. I have golden rag, sylvanas, tirion (only gold lego I ever crafted, did after reaching legend with paladin), mukla, and velen

I have also gotten and dusted golden gahzrilla and king krush, I still have regular krush though and I think gahzrilla...
>>
Say something NICE about this card.
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>>162477254
How does he have the best deals anywhere when you can have 2 of him at the same time in your deck?
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>>162477254
he's less broken at 6 mana than 5 mana
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>>162477254
Its really funny when a rogue plays it and only draws like 1 card and has to stop. Rogues playing too many minions these days.
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>>162477254
Unironically my favourite card in the game
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>>162477254
This is my favorite card and if they ever change his text I'll quit
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>>162477254
it was nerfed and still has the best deals
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>>162477254
He's so amazing that he should be a legendary. Rogue only
>>
do you feel in charge
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>>162477706
you are a big guy
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>>162477726
4 eyes.
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>>162477706
You're a deck thinning guy
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>>162477706
Patches?
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>>162477254

He's got the best deals anywhere.
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ur in the club and this girl slaps ur golems ass

what do you do???
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>>162478078
Play Spellbreaker and trade in my Flame Imp.
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I really wish control decks like zoo were viable. Blizz why u keep ruining the game?
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>>162475425
I've opened golden Mukla, Gaz'lowe, Gormok and now the 2/2 warrior lego in the 2 years I've been playing.
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play Eternal.
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>>162478078
reno > thaurissan > leeroy + PO + faceless
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>>162478316
you can still play doomhammer shaman
>>
>vs warrior assuming it's pirate since I haven't played any other warrior since MSG release
>play dirty rat turn 3 after he used fiery war axe because I have turn hellfire the following turn
>pull out grom
>lose
that was pretty funny tbqh
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>>162478334
Oh God that looks budget as fuck.
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Post cards you forgot about, but when you remember them, you liked them.
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>>162445854

>20 fucking 16 year of our lord
>not playing finja in anyfin

KYS RIGHT NOW
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>>162478827
>ruining your Anyfin combo for mediocre murloc memes
can't do it
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>>162478630
>this plus immune cards
It might be shit but it's a fun combo.
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>>162479042

you are literally fucking retarded and have no understanding of tempo or value

have an educational video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0TyRVY1L9g&feature=youtu.be&a
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>>162479308
what happened to snoop dog? why is he white and playing children's card games now?
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>>162479439

trump's president now, everyone with the means is becoming white
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>>162478334
>same trashy artstyle as HS
No thanks. Tolerating just one of these is already more than enough for me.
>>
>>162441003
First pack from new expansion, did I win?
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>>162479607

you won 400 dust!
>>
Kraken or Fire Elemental in arena
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>>162479607
No, you lost. I'm sorry. Don't feel too bad. My first one was fucking Madameme Goy.
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>>162479308
>getting this triggered
calm your nerves, sperg. Finja is superfluous to the deck, you can run him if you want and there are pros and cons in doing so.

Someone on Reddit did the math, and roughly 50% of the time he cuts your Anyfin damage in half.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/5hk5fl/analysis_of_anyfin_paladin_with_finja/

I'll stick with my OTK.
Thanks.
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>>162479607
>>162479792
>mfw my first was Raza
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Control shaman looks fun as fuck. Its a shame I just shit on it with guldan. I should give it a try when the meta slows down
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>>162480015

you are literally a shieldbearer if you don't rate finja

it gives you 2 free murlocs every time

that is 2 less you have to play from hand and gets you insane tempo the turn he's played since the murlocs that get summoned often have charge

it's braindead simple to run this card and if you can't see the value in it you are retarded

the thread you linked doesn't take any of the above into account but is also based on the second anyfin you play

if you get to play 2 anyfins in a game you have already won and the 6 damage you lose on the turn in average is irrelevant

please continue being a smug never legend shieldbearer while every pro that comments on the card says it is good and autoinclude in anyfin
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>>162480421
>play anyfin
>do nothing because zero (0) bluegills spawn
>opponent plays board clear
WOOOOW
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>>162480554

>0 bluegills spawn
>playing second anyfin into board clear

jesus christ /hsg/, just wow

anyways man enjoy """"""""almost"""""" hitting rank 5 another season you sad stupid fuck
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>>162480421
>muh anecdotes
>muh pro players
>muh needless insults
>muh intellectual superiority

nice evidence you got there, friend0.

why are spergs like this? are they not self aware? do they not understand that different decks do different things? I see no reason for hostility but this guy clearly did not take his autism pill this morning.

Into the bin it goes!
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>Hunter gets these adorable fucks.
>Who goes there
>I'm in charge now
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>>162480731

>can't think critically
>can't respond to arguments
>can't read threads he is relying on himself

there's nothing here for you man, just kys already

keep playing murlocs from your hand you could have got free of finja

keep missing out on mid game tempo swing

keep being unable to comprehend that there is virtually no chance of 0 bluegils spawning and if that happens then it is no a problem since finja is stealthed and doesn't die to any board clear (except twisting nether or pyro equality) because of the warleader buffs and just hits face next turn

you have no leg to stand on
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>>162475425
We're comparing dicks?
Of these I crafted Thalnos and Aya, found the rest in packs over the years.
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>>162481459
just stop, my man.

go play your Finja Anyfin deck and have fun for once in your life. Personally, I just think the fact that other people do things differently than you makes you feel insecure, so you lash out with anger and insults. This is something that is very common in people on the Autism Spectrum; they are single minded and lack the ability to see things from the viewpoint of an external source. They also typically lack empathy and are unable to perform in social situations.

But anyway, just chill out man haha ;)
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>>162481818

kk buddy :3 thanks for putting it in perspective

enjoy your suboptimal "yoonique" deck! Good luck getting rank 5 this season finally, I'm sure you got it!!!
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>>162481786
forgot pic of course
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>>162480902
Why does an alleycat have golden teeth?
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>>162481989
payment from the goons probably
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>>162481786
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>>162482129
>golden Boogy
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I just started playing and I just got done getting all my decks to level 10. I have no idea where to go now. I built a mage deck that got me to rank 18, but I have no legendaries. What should I do next? Buy an expansion? Buy cards? I'm sure you guys answer this shit a lot, so thanks.
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Who won that all stars torunament?
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we posting our golden legendaries

r8
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>>162482446
I'll let you guess.
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Pirate warrior shouldn't be allowed life tap.
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>>162482451
forgot one
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>>162482248
yeah man its just too exotic. Same for Morgor
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>>162482451
>>162482629
thanks for making the game free for us/10
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>>162482715
f2p account, just botted a lot
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>>162482534
dad? pogchamp
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>>162482392
try to get your opponents HP to zero.
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>>162482392
Open classic packs until you opened like 70-80 packs,then try to either buy karazhan adventure or dig into wotog or gadgetzan.But mainly buy classic packs.
Also,game is not f2p friendly for a new player, not at all so if you are not planning to buy stuff you'll catch up with the meta in a few months
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>>162482392
How much money were you thinking of spending on the game? It'll take a while to get anything that's actually fun to play/good without spending at least $50-60, but it's not impossible.

>>162482841
If he's going to buy Karazhan, why not do it now and make those 70-0 packs a little easier to earn.
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Small time buccaneer has 1 health.
Problem solved.
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>>162483009
I was assuming that he wasnt planning on spending money
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>>162482560
>Pirate warrior shouldn't be allowed life
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>>162482841
>>162483009
I am willing to spend 50$ for now. Should I just get classic packs? Is that beginner bundle worth?
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>>162483009
because the cards in karzahan may not be even in rotation by the time he can afford all the wings. much more fun for a new play to get new, playable cards
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>>162483493
Beginner bundle is a great deal.I'd get that and karazhan
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>>162483607
Why Karazhan specifically?
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>>162483727
Good cards guaranteed for the price.
It's entirely possible to brick on packs.
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whats the point of playing jade druid if whenever you win, they conceded just before the good part
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>>162483346
prettygood/10
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>>162483727
Karazhan was pretty meh, but some of the cards are staples and the other adventures will be rotating out in a few months.
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>>162483727
Its an adventure that will be in standard rotation until q2 of 2018. Unlike expansions(packs), You get all the cards in it so adventures like karazhan are more beginner friendly than expansions
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>>162484039
>Implying jade druid wins anything.
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>>162484215
It's the best deck that does nothing, so it beats all other decks that do nothing.
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>>162484508
you can beat anyone dumb enough to play priest,
you can beat reno decks often because reno doesnt do anything versus you.
you can beat face warrior if youre lucky with the early draws.
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>>162484215
Game will go long against control decks so you just keep making jade idols. Eventually they run out of removal.
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>check meta snapshot
>reynad is pushing greater arcane missiles meme in every mage deck
This fucking guy i swear to god
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>/hsg/ thinks Skullfane is bad in Arena
>prove them wrong
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>>162483563
He's got 2 years before Karzahan rotate out, he'll be fine. Plus he can safely dust every lego except Barnes, and maybe Mores if he wants to meme, for a pretty great dust/$ ratio to start him out buying staple rares like Defender of Argus and Azure Drake.

>>162483493
Yes on the beginner bundle, and spend the other $45 on the last two expansions. After dusting the useless epics and legos like Naga Sea Witch and Rafaam, you should have enough for all the common and rare staples. LoE rotates out pretty soon, but still not for a few months, and $20 gets you a lot more cards than it would if you spent it on packs.
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>tfw to intelligent too not play combo/control
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>>162485167
I fucking hate this posts.
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Why does Blizzard not allow hunter to have card draw?
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>>162485275
>what is Starving Buzzard, Quick Shot, Tracking and the Loot Horder series

fuck off you have plenty of in curve draw
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>>162485275
>Giving an aggro class card draw
good one
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>>162482451
You aren't going to dust that second Kazakus, are you?
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>>162485275
Because different classes are supposed to have different strengths and weaknesses.
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>>162485275
The class isn't allowed to have good sustain because of their hero power, so all their card draw of greater than one involves giving up tempo. It's part of giving classes strengths and weaknesses.
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>>162485275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNOLMTW2EOU
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>>162485607
>>162485729
>le class identity meme
fucking Brode I swear.
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Best deck against shaman right now? Climbed to rank 3 with rogue but now thanks to the meta snapshot I have the pleasure of playing against the coinflip totem man 3/4 games
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>>162485851
so you know nothing about design?
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>>162475425
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>>162485809
The buzzard was unnessisary. He had game with just Leroy+Owl+ hounds+hero power.
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>>162485990
okay
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>>162485375
>Starving Buzzard
absolutely unplayable trash
>Quick Shot
extremely situational
>Tracking
not actual card draw
>Loot Hoarder
neutral card that doesn't fit hunter
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How is the matchup Jade Druid vs. Renolock?
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>>162486076
>Tracking
>not actual card draw
hilarious meme. its much better than 1 mana: draw a card
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>>162486143
Jade druid is shit, play Jade Shaman
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>>162486167
that's not real card draw either
you draw a card from your deck to spend mana on drawing a card from your deck
it's deck thinning, not card draw like arcane intellect
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>>162486256
But it is card draw, because you draw a card.
What you're talking about is hand refilling, by which you draw more cards than you spent.
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>>162486256
>drawing a card isn't card draw
okay. kill yourself.
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>>162486243
List? How vital is White Eyes?
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>>162486256
>deck thinning
this triggers the Andrey.
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>ranking down in hearthstone
>switch to rocket league
>ranking down rapidly in rocket league
I was so close to getting back to Superstar and I end up falling all the way down to low All-Star. Fuck all videogames.
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>>162486256
I think the word you're looking for is card advantage.
>it's deck thinning
Also not in the least what you're describing. I think you might just be shit at words, even if it all makes sense in your head.
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>>162486310
yes, something that gives you card advantage
if there was a spell 1 mana draw a card it would give you no benefit except for the marginal one of a 29 card deck and spell synergy for stuff like flamewaker or auctioneer

>>162486329
it's a cycle
loot hoarder is card draw, pws is card draw, arcane intellect is card draw, tracking and 1 mana draw a card is not card draw but deck thinning
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>>162486380
It's a really strong card
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>>162486653
it's okay buddy, lots of hearthbabbies like to use words they don't understand
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>>162486256
>drawing 2 cards is real, drawing 1 card isnt real.

you are officially dumb.
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>>162486745
Best replacement? Sylvanas?
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>>162486975
point is drawing one card for one card doesn't accomplish anything ever except thinning your deck
having a "0 mana: draw a card" card in your deck is the same as having a 29 card deck (again ignoring spell synergy) and 1 mana is just a worse version of that but arcane intellect actually does something
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>Get on half way through the month late as usual
>Play dragon priest
>People think it's acceptable to ignore me and go face

I know this is *the* game to play if you just want to netdeck some aggro shitter deck but holy fuck it hurts watching these warriors just roll face is actually embarassing

Who in their right mind ignores a 5/5 Dragon on board when they have 1 charge left on their arcanite and I've got more health than them?
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>trump started using greenscreen
NO! No, no no no, no no!
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>Tech deck to specifically counter Pirate Warrior
>Still lose constantly

It's like 2013 face hunter all over again

fuck this game it's just frustrating at this point
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Just got to 5 with this meme deck. Last game Dirty Rat + Ancestral Spirit turn 4 completely destroyed a pirate warrior.
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>>162487243
>drawing one card for one card doesn't accomplish anything ever except thinning your deck
It's late and all, so I really don't want to write a whole post about what thinning your deck means, but cantrips aren't fucking thinning your deck. Some of them provide card selection or other miniscule effects at no cost of a card. That's their point. Thinning means something else entirely.
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>Decide to follow a friend's advice and try to level Shaman to 10 because "It's a really good basic deck!"
>Can't even fucking beat the Innkeeper
Fuck this kikery.
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>>162488509
anon I wouldn't normally say this but holy shit git gud
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>>162488629
Maybe if this game wasn't shit I'd put in the effort to. Shaman's heroic ability is literally useless and even more RNG dependent than normal.
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>>162488673
maybe you should learn the game before you complain
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>>162488509
>>162488673
Anon, if you cannot beat the Innkeeper with the basic Shaman deck you are beyond trash. In the /hsg/ tourney yesterday, some idiot managed to beat a ladder-built Reno Mage with the basic deck for like Hunter. You are easily the worst player here.
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>>162488850
Yet you're defending the game like the nigger you are.
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>>162488283
that's why I specifically said PWS is card draw because it has an effect dumb anime poster
plain 1 (or 0 or whatever) mana draw a card is a different matter
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BASED REYNAD HOLY SHIT
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>>162486143
That leeroy finisher is scary but i see most dont run it so it's a good matchup for me when i play jade druid. Because theyre not really stopping me from getting huge jade golems, no pressure, the "handlock turn 4" can be a problem of course.
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>>162488901
Alright, you're getting the (You)s you wanted, but how is my calling you bad defending the game. The game is shit. The deck is shit. The Hero Power is shit. But more importantly, the INNKEEPER IS SO FAR BEYOND SHIT THAT EVEN A MONKEY COULD BEAT IT AND YOU ARE STUPIDER THAN THAT FUCKING MONKEY.
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>>162489062
That's exactly what I was thinking. Turn 4 Drake into turn 5 Shambler is your worst nightmare.
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>>162488509
just windfury bloodlust rockbiter with 3 minions on the board

you can easily hit rank 10 with yetis and ogers
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>>162489129
Whatever you say Jamal.
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>>162488939
So now you're inventing cards so you can pretend to be right?
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What do you guys think of my deck naming skills?
>inb4 not parrior
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>>162489341
bretty gud
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>>162489341
fuck you
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>>162489285
Enjoy being stupider than a nigger, then.
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>>162489341

nice
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>it's another both auctioneers are in your bottom 14 cards despite even hard mulliganning for them

hehe epic... simply epic
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>>162489341
Not very creative desu. R8 my druid deck.
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>>162489297
the original point was tracking does not serve the same purpose as actual card draw unlike the card draw I was comparing it to, loot hoarders, buzzard and quick shot
that point remains unchanged
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>>162489552
>mulliganning for auctioneers
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>>162489552
>it's an autistic faggot plays rogue and gets upset when he loses, nevermind the class is shit episode
Hehe, nice
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>>162489552
>mulligan for Auctioneer
this is almost never the right thing to do, and probably explains why you are losing.
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>>162489757
>redditfrog
>doesn't know how to play rogue
gtfo anduin
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>>162489998
>hmm, I'm playing against warrior, better mulligan my si7, backstab and eviscerate so I can try to pull off some shit meme combo
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>>162489764
>rogue is shit
are you a time travelling /hsg/bearer from pre-expansion?
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>>162489998
there's NO reason to mulligan for a 6 drop in a deck that need to clear the early stuff
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>>162490104
>every opponent is warrior
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>>162490104
well yeah you better get your removal or you die
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>>162489998
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>>162489998
>>162490319
these FoTM Rogue players really don't have a clue.

you never, ever, ever mulligan for Auctioneer on ladder. If you are in a tourney, and you know your opponent plays control, then you can mulligan for it. Otherwise, you toss it every time. A 6 cost card is dead weight.
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Are miracle rogues the new dragon priests in terms of circle jerking their "sick" decks and linking each other's butt holes?
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>>162490468
keeping an auctioneer vs a priest was correct before msg though since they were always super slow
but yea it was bad against every other opponent, even warrior
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>>162490468

heh.... le warlocks dont play renolock face ;))) epic thanks le reddit...
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>aggro murloc paladin

are these clowns serious
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>>162490775
>le
>;)))
>epic
>reddit
kys my man
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>>162490468
>FoTM Rogue player
okay

keep auctioneer/tomb pillager against:
warlock
druid
priest
other rogues
paladin(?) no one plays this

hard mulligan for cheap removal against:
shaman
warrior
hunter
mage(?) no one plays this either but if they do it's probably reno mage
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>>162490775
you don't keep Auctioneer against RenoLock. You want your fat midrange minions against them first. Auctioneer is for refilling your hand and digging for lethal.

Please stop triggering me.
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>>162490834
I unironically believe that deck has the best nut draws in the game, but they are like 1/20
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>>162490651

No that's Renolocks
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Should I dust shitvanas?
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>>162490942
The fact that you even think she's shit tells me how good you are at this game, pro tip: you are shit
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>>162490942
no you fucking dummy
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>>162490901
tomb pillager is a lot safer keep than auctioneer tho
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>people who dont even play miracle tries to act smart by telling others to keep auctioneer in hand
Shut the fuck up

Like this guy explained >>162490468 you do not keep it, especially right now where every match-up has a chance to be some pirate variant
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>>162491129
i have played thousands of games of miracle rogue retard
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>>162489424
Least I'm not at the disadvantage of being born a nigger. Go back to Africa.
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>>162490942
>Should I dust one of the core legendary of the game, that has seen play in every meta and now can be played along N'Zoth or in most reno decks for good measure
Hw about you uninstall instead
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>>162491129
Only time I'd ever even consider keeping it is if I'm against priest on the draw.
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>>162490901
This is objectively wrong for Auctioneer. Look up any online guide written by any sort of reputable player for confirmation. You never keep Auctioneer unless you are absolutely certain your opponent is a slow control deck (like in a rematch or a tourney).

Pillager is a keep for most matches, particularly when on coin.

>>162491178
Yeah I don't believe you.
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>>162491049
>>162491094
Different guy, but I made the mistake of crafting sylvanas last week, and now I can't figure out what to do with her. What kind of decks does she go in?
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>>162491103
they go hand in hand against classes that do nothing for 4 turns such as druid
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>>162491129

>pirate warlock

hehe i love this subreddit, finally i can share my thoughts with fellow shieldbearers :)
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>>162490651
Both "priest mains" and "rogue mains" love their classes because of an off-curve hero power turn 2 high iq plays.

Both "priest mains" and "rogue mains" love constant bitching how their classes are hated by blizzard despite rogue never being bad and priest finally getting a solid deck that's played both on the ladder and in torunaments.

They're also waifufags and OCfags.
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>>162491323
Control warrior ;^)
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>>162491326
>reddit
>:)
Btw zoo with pirates is a thing.
Or simply zoo for that matter.
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>>162491323
Pretty much any midrange/control deck if you're on a budget. Other than that, plenty of control decks/all N'zoth decks
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>get the 100g quest to play 75 battlecry minions
>fill a warlock deck with 1 and 2 drops
>win
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>>162491208
>>162491208
>>162491208
STRAWPOLL, EVERYONE:
http://www.strawpoll.me/11856183

http://www.strawpoll.me/11856183

http://www.strawpoll.me/11856183

JUST REMEMBER THIS IS THE SAME AI THAT WILL SAC PAC ITSELF IF IT'S JARAXXUS.
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>>162491429
Anything else? Because that requires at least 4 epics I don't have.
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>>162491323
Any N'zoth deck you could ever imagine.
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>>162491324
personally i keep the pillager against every deck i don't think is an aggro or face deck while i only keep auctioneer against decks i think are very slow
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>>162491498
even shieldbearers are better than negroes m8
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>>162491452

hehe pirate zoo, fr*cking epic.. i miss the rank 20 meta xD

Also I have faced nearly 30 warlocks with this deck, only one of them was zoo so far so they are negligible.
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>>162491538
Maybe I should craft him next then. I've already got Tirion.
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Remember when Sylvanas was 5 mana and Leeroy was 4 mana can you imagine how OP they were lol
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>>162491498
What are you talking about? The AI is clearly almost sentient at that point.
>Plays a game against you, want to do good and win
>Play Jaraxxus
>Jaraxxus as the AUDACITY of destroying the hero and replacing it
>AI sees that he's no longer in control, and so, gets rid of the impostor
AI s based
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>>162491317
k
>>
>craft everything needed for Jade Druid
>no urge to play it after a few games

>craft everything needed for Dragon Priest
>no urge to play it after a few games

>craft everything needed for Pirate Warrior
>no urge to play it after a few games

How the fuck do I make this stop
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>>162491765
Firebat played it in a tourney recently.
No idea if it's any good since I'm not an expert on control decks, but if a former world champ picked it in a big$ tourney, it's likely someone is trying it on the ladder right now.
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>>162492012

Stop netdecking and start playing decks you want to play.
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>>162492068
>>162492068
he was being a snowflake, that deck looked horrible
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>>162492012
Play reno mage
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>>162492169
and you are who exactly?
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>>162492012
kill yourself
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>>162492169
>b-but that pro was just kidding! I'm not retarded, I swear!
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>>162492331
>>162492216
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>>162492390
Post your rank of wise one
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>>162492068

Well I am no pro player but from my adventures around rank 5 I rarely faced any zoo. Also I am EUW so I don't know what the NA meta is like.
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>>162492521
>Also I am EU
there we go
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>>162488509
The innkeeper has some of the most retarded ai I've ever seen in video games. His warrior,shaman and hunter decks are even worse now since basic cards were changed and innkeeper never got better decks. Learn to play.
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>>162492586

What's wrong with EU?
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>>162492732
What.
Are you not giving a deck to the innkeeper so at least you can practice against some proper curvedecks?

Who actually plays vs basic innkeeper?
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>>162450237
>southsea combo
Yikes
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>>162492815
immigrants
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>>162492815
the density of non-whites
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>>162492890
>>162492969

t. 60%
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>>162492890
this is true and fair

>>162492969
this is laughable coming from an american
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>>162490651
>>162491396
What class do you play as then faggot?
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>>162491545
most decks are either aggro or slow enough to keep auctioneer against, the exceptions are things like dragon priest which isn't too aggressive in terms of damage per turn but they play a lot of early shit so you might not want to keep auctioneer against priest
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play Shadowverse
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>>162493053
>coming from an american
what makes you say that?
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>>162492846
Are you trying to trick me anon.
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>>162446505
>Literally doesn't beat a single fucking deck in the game, you're retarded, go jerk off to Valera more
Go eat a barrel full of jade dicks. It's a 50/50 at worst against it's worst match ups. Shits on everything else.
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>>162493103
at the moment that's true but there have been a lot of decks I'd keep pillager but not auctioneer against like secret paladin, midrange shaman, dragon warrior, etc.

>>162493192
America is significantly less white than pretty much all of Europe
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>>162493203
You're not aware that you can give a deck to the innkeeper form him to play? Of course he wont play it well but it can help him to have something brainless and still strong. go look at the options.
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>>162493304
love it when yuros post their rank 15 stats
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>>162493315
>America is significantly less white than pretty much all of Europe
Canadian here, where I am there's a lot more white than anything. It got worst in the past few years but I guess that's everywhere.
>mfw my grandfather still says nigger all the time during family reunion when talking about vacation and other stuff
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>put together a cheap pirate aggro shaman deck
>grind to rank 5

Hey guys ask me anything, everything I say is always right, even when it differs from the opinions of rank 1 legendary players with world championship experience who have been playing all day every day for years and getting paid to do so.
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>>162493315
>at the moment that's true but there have been a lot of decks I'd keep pillager but not auctioneer against like secret paladin, midrange shaman, dragon warrior, etc.
yes mulligans change depending on what other people play. last month i would not have kept auctioneer against a warlock but now i do because no one plays zoo
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>>162493467
in my special snowflake region of europe i didn't see a nigger until i was like 5 or 6 (actually true)
but neither that nor your snowflake place changes the fact that america complaining europe isn't white is like a european saying america doesn't have enough space
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>>162441756
yeah

>>162442524
it's not like you ever saw senjin before anyway
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>>162493427
>It doesn't beat anything
>Post stats saying otherwise
>B-but it's rank 15
He's still right. It works.
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>>162493304
>highest rank 11

LUL nothing under 5 even counts
>>
Am I elite?
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>>162493795
this.
Fucking hell I get rank 5 every month while doing my quests. My fucking quests, whcih now include playing all murloc decks, all battlecry shamans decks, etc. Stil lget to rank 5 with that, which make anything prior to rank 5 meaningless.

Besides, you actually see a lot of variation in the meta and skills at ranks 5 -> 4 -> 3 ->etc.
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>>162493304
>highest ranking 11
Wow, I'm sure it works real good against 12 year olds net decking without legendary
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>>162493962
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>>162493662

>highest rank 11
kek this is why you shitters shouldn't show your stats
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>>162446380
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cursed blade
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All of you are fucking trash at Hearthstone and need to shut the fuck up already.

Show some fucking integrity you worthless shit eating faggots.
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>>162493304
>Highest rank 11
>Time played: 3.5 hour
So you played a deck for one evening and think you now know everything about the deck and the meta? At rank 11? My fucking side.
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>>162493962
Honestly, I'm rank 5 playing ancestral spirit memes
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Say something NICE about these cards right now.
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>>162494709

They're a totally real gang.
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>>162493304
>>162493662
>>162494249

relax senpai. You'll break 10 someday
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>>162494709

if leatherclad was costed better at 5 it would probably be a decent tech choice against all the warlock shitters
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>>162494709
The second 2 are maybe kind of useful against control?
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Lads, new thread


>>162494968


>>162494968


>>162494968
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>>162495006
>if it was a better leeroy it would be good
yeah, and I bet ironbark protector would see more play if it shot things for 8 dmg every turn
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>>162495040
>/pol/ thread
Someone else make one and ignore this guy
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>>162495127

Except it has a requirement for charge. Change the card count to 7 and you have a competitive anticontrol card
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>>162494709
when i first saw these posted, i thought that these were shitty OC from /hsg/, not real cards blizz would have the audacity to print
the right one isn't completely terrible i guess
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Thoughts?

Lights justice to turn on small time and buccaneer
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>>162496680
murloc aggro is never really that popular because a good aggro chips away at your opponents health card by card instead of trying to stick a bunch of cards to the board and then hitting them for a lot. the cards are just a little too combo-oriented, you want to be able to drop things that work on their own and murlocs can't do that
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