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Best bark edition

>FAQs and General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN (embed)

>Warhammer introduction to MP Lords and Heroes
http://pastebin.com/hPkPujTB (embed)
>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Warhammer News

Wood Elves Trailer:
[YouTube] Total War: WARHAMMER - Realm of the Wood Elves - Announcement Trailer (embed) [Embed]

Wood Elves Let's Play:
[Vimeo] Total War: WARHAMMER - Wood Elves Battle Let's Play (embed)

Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications
Recent Update Info -- http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Update_5
Recent DLC (good goy) -- http://store.steampowered.com/app/534331/

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>>162392365
Ok, now what?
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>tfw you will never be a dwarf lord with sovereign mountains
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>Gobbo archers
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who can stop him?
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>>162392548
rename him Heinz Guderian
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>>162392581
Imagine being a claustrophobic dwarf
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>>162392702
Kholek?
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>just finished The Silver Spire quest battle, only barely winning

Damn that shit was intense
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>>162392548
>Panzergruppe Franz
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>play elves
>game crashes any time someone moves into my territory

seriously what the fuck
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>>162392812
it's just how they keep the Oak safe anon
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Repostan in the new thread

Is The Rights of Man 3 really that great? Should I finish off a vanilla campaign first or is it like Stainless Steel where it's good to go right away.

>>162392710
>Rename him Heinz Guderian
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>>162392702

Custom battles aren't really an accurate way to determine LL power levels
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no wonder she rides sidesaddle
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place your bets
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>>162392702
>evercuck runs away like a bitch
kayo kek
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>>162392905
i'm not being crazy in assuming that's what is causing it though, right? because that is the only thing that is consistently causing problems every time i have to restart this shit due to playing lelgendary. it works fine up until some orc or dwarf faggot digs into my shit and then it just immediately breaks.
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>>162393036
did he beat grimgor already?
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fuuuug
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>>162393206

>elfs ambushed by humies

Is there any greater shame?
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>Confederate Karak Hirn
>See this guy
Uh... does this go in the book?
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>>162393206
you have failed as an elf and death is all you deserve
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>>162393206
>that many waywatchers
>waywatchers at all
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>>162393206
>that army

Fuuuuug indeed

You're dead
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>>162393364
>implying you've not been doing anything but nutting grobi for your entire campaign
lrn2 english slang m8
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>>162393314

Being outsmarted by gobbos or losing in looks to the undead
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>>162393148
he's next

one amber spear was all that was needed for kholek
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MAKE WAY FOR ____
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>>162393623
ALLAHU AKBAR
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>>162393623
cultural enrichment
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>>162393560
there's no shame in losing to gobbos
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>>162393206
>Wood Elves getting ambushed by fucking Fantasy Italians

The shame, THE SHAME
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>turn off improved camera mod
>feel stuck to the floor

People play like this?
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>>162393560
>losing in looks to the undead

>not being undead AND good-looking

Get on my level, sempai
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>>162393560
Everyone but Dawi and BALTHASAR GELT lose in looks to the undead.
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The maze, Dolores
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how hard is it to pirate dlc for steam purchase of total war?
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>>162393623
Refugees
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>>162393623

literally who
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>>162394004

Necrophiliac please go
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no one can stop him..
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>>162394052
stop posting this
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>>162394116

>pirating dlc
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>>162394301
>Black Orc warboss not so tough after being molested
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I had a look at the TW forums and I shouldn't have
the ignorance is baffling
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>>162394052
>people say the show won't last past the first season
>they kill off the two best characters at the end of it
haha epic
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>>162393314
>>162393382
>>162393417
>>162393739
fug, the wardancers memed them hard, this was an extremely hectic battle since I cant pause as I am playing on legendary, also I forgot to save the replay but I know that it autosaves the latest into the roaming folder or something, does anyone know the precise location

>>162393402
I am fighting dwarves and using the starshafts against them is retarded as they resist magic damage, so waywatchers are the only archers that have armour pen and NON-magic attacks
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Looks like bark boi Durthu just can't deal with The Red Bull
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>>162394457
looks like dawi aren't such great craftsmen after all
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>>162394538

Did you try Belegar yet? Granted he's best when he uses his ability but even then he's pretty much geared to smacking other lords/heroes about.
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>>162394538
>60

what
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>>162394538
the red duke has a special ability that makes an opposing character weaker
He's supposed to duel other lords
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>Attacking Karak Zilfin in mini-campaign
>Order Forest dragon to attack quarrelers on the wall
>It flies towards it
>Swoops down for the charge
>Connects with the edge of the wall
>A fucking explosion of dust happens
>The dragon is gone
>"A UNIT HAS BEEN WIPED OUT"

What in the actual FUCK just happened?!

WHERE'S MY DRAGON?!

THE OTHER DRAGON THAT ATTACKED THE QUARRELERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GATE ARE FINE

WHAT IN THE FUCK

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
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>>162394496
I take it all back
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>>162394538

The Red Duke is a character duelist, he has a magic item that does literally nothing except fuck the opposing Lord over

I would be surprised if any lord could beat him 1v1
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>>162394496

Are Wardancers that good?
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>>162394652
BASED DAWI ANTI-AIR DEFENSES
GRUDGES WILL BE SETTLED, LADDIE
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>>162394634
nope

>>162394538
>tfw I can't test this myself
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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How long until we start getting info on the warhammer expansion?

Febuary?
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>>162394641
Collateral from summons

>>162394730
>>162394642
Nobody can defeat the red bull
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>>162394776
well they were fighting basic empire infantry, and they have a shitload of buffs on them, both from the general, and the office
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>>162394910
can you try without the summons?

that's like durthu summoning a manticore
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>tfw you'll never be a huge treeman and have tiny elf women flock around you
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>>162384230
Either that or I just get fucking upset at the bullshit "hey look I have 3 full stacks of expensive upgraded units even though I only have a couple of cities left" shit that the AI pulls
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>>162393314
Ambushed by Beastmen
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>>162394851

How about the Todd?
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Tree Hitler or Beast Halfbreed for WE Grand Campaign?
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>>162395206
Glade Lord, build your legend from scratch
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>>162395206

Tree Hitler if you want to play with mostly forest spirit units.

Goat god if you want to replace him for another lord from turn 1 and pretend you're a propper elf faction.
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>>162395206
One is an angry burning Hitler with a wacky mustache.
The other is a beastman
Apply yourself.
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>>162395151
I don't have the grim and the grave, but karl stood zero chance against him
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>>162394406
>game cost: over $50
>dlc cost: over $60
w e w
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>>162394116
doesn't seem to exist for whatever reason, unlike Bethesda/Paradox/etc games
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>>162395447

Close
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>>162394641
prolly spawned some zombies
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Does anyone have some tips for how to start off as Durthu in the Legendary Grand Campaign?
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>>162395594

Look at the other WE factions, then imagine them being jews.
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>>162395372
he's from beastmen
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>>162395532
at least Paradox doesn't even try to make it hard
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>>162395283
but how do you do that? kick in 1st turn?
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>162395923

And here's why
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>>162395532
fug
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Who else here ready for /Time Commanders/?
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>3 week university project working towards Creative Assembly - Total War specifications.
So many things I'd want to do differently now but I've learned a tonne on this project. Big thanks to Baj Singh for helping me write this brief and giving lots of feedback along the way.
Beauty renders are done in 2k texture resolution

First peek at HE hero?
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>>162395997
But reddit wants it!
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>>162395997

Tomb Kings are truly the most patrician faction
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>>162395834

Yup. I find Onion to be an insufferable cunt, even for an Elf. Durthu is cool but I want to play the Elf side first before cleansing the forest with treemen.
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>>162395763
I don't have that either
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Should I buy the beastmen dlc?

Will I like them if I like fast cav civs?
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Is the Elves DLC any good?
Archer units fun?
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>>162396185

>Reddit Rats
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>>162396208

I fucking hate him for how much he swirls his spear, but goddamn you need the amber from his quests.
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>>162396316

Durthu solos armies
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>>162396160
based baj
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>>162396195
>Tomb Kings are truly the most patrician faction

forgetting someone, are we?
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>>162396295

If you go the Centigor route, you can play them as a very hit and run cavalry faction, otherwise they are a brutal melee and monster race, they were a 10/10 for me, make sure you get Blood and Gore, it enhances the Beastmen experience 200%
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What's better for dealing with elfs

Heavy cav or artillery?
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>>162396576
no
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>>162396576
YOU MUST BE THIS TALL TO RIDE
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>>162395283
Anyone else really like doing this?
I always like doing it for Chaos.

Wish you select a generic lord in the start screen for some bonuses.
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>>162396613
goblin archers
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>>162394116
don't know if it's possible, besides, you are risking a 60$ product

wait until the game is cracked
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>>162396613

Quarrellers
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Holy fucking shit.
3d portholes really eat the FPS don't they?
God damn stuttering fucking shit. Once I dismiss him it's all back to normal.
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>>162396613

Heavy cav is a nightmare to deal with, I'm still not sure how to counter them with Welfs other than trees, but they are too slow to be reliable to catch cav
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>>162396080
how do you like them sanctions?
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>>162396576

>LE EDGY DARWI

Fuck Off
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i got a 20$ steam gift card. what DLC should I buy?
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>>162396185
>/twg/ is literally the polar opposite of this
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>>162396613

probably artillery since the wood elves literally have no counter aside from running the fucking gauntlet.
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>>162397009

Neet elves > King and Warlord > Beastmen >Grim and grave > Blood > Horse armour dlc > chaos
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>>162396942
>implying you'd be playing warhammer at all if you didn't unironically love the edge
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>>162396857
Have you considered using one of the many anti large armor pen foots units? Or maybe just out skirmishing them with mounted poison glade runners.
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>>162397037

/TWG/ is

1. Tomb Kings
2. Dark Elves

...who cares...

55. Chaos Drwafs
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>>162397009
King and Warlord > Grim and Grave > Beastmen > Wood Elves > Blood >=Chaos
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>>162397252
the only person who ever regularly mentions dark elves is the >DOMINATED BY BEST ELVES guy
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>>162397009
King and Warlord > Grim and Grave > Blood > Worst Elves > Beastmemes > Spiky Edgelords
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>>162397324
>>162397137

ty for the input. I prefer playing with artillery and ranged stuff. still the same order?
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Has anyone tried out Iron Drakes against trees yet?

Seems like they would be perfect for the job
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>>162391601

It's my personal game of the year, lot of value in the base game. There are 4 base campaigns and each one can take upwards of 40hrs if you want to conquer the entire map. Game is actually much better now then it was at release, since there is more variety in; the opposition, maps, units, magic, resources.

There is also a lot of fun to be had with the game proper. You can play it as a city builder and take your time with settlements. Designing them for role playing value over function. What they have, where you will go in the chains. I had fun building walls around all of mine. Then there is the RTS element which is what you might come to expect. Then there is the tom foolery. You could make allies of nations then betray them become evil on your play through. Or you can make armies of meme units for funsies.

I made an ariel army with nothing but flying units. Or an army specialized in artillery for settlement busting. Of course all of my suggestions are optional and not the prime way to play but that's what makes it great. It's a single player game, there is no "right" way to play.

>Dat feel when you refresh and everyone has moved on to another thread
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>>162396295

Minotaurs are literally just rape machines
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>>162394652
this shit happens since day 1

lost Mannfred w/Dragon to bloodthirsty walls
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>>162393206

Time to REK that elf pussy.
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>>162396576
HOLD UP MY FELLA BEST DAWI

we are the next faction and you can't do anything against that, get retk vampire kangz
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>>162396857
Just use wardancers with asrai spears, they have +30 damage against large

They deal more damage than Demigriphs with halberds and there's quite the number of them.
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>>162394861
cinematic trailer by spring at the earliest
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>>162397587

Wood Elves are suppose to be the ranged faction with the best archers. Not much in the way of artillery though.
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>>162397837

Are elfs considered rapeable in Warhammer lore?
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>>162397252
We are numberless! If I fall, someone else will take my place.
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>>162395826
something, something, two wrongs don't make a right, something
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>>162397856

>vampire kangz

Oi, take that back
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>>162396902
It's manageable if you're getting paid in anything other than putinbucks.
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>>162395826
That's not even all the DLC.
That EU4 package is like half of it. And with none of the music packs, although 1 might have made it into the one what with all the byzantines.
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>>162398085
excuse me what the fuck is that
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>Next Warham game announced
>Half off if you own all the DLC :^)

Screenshot this
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>>162398992
not a chance

at most, you will get free blood if you own the previous pack
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>>162398085

>Some one smacks your pointy hat in battle
>it violently tears your horns out of your head

aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Alright so there's something I've always been wondering. Something I'm not clear on.
Whenever I set up my battle lines I put my spears on the flanks unless it's M2 and I have only spear units for 99% of the game. Anyway, the AI likes to front charge my lines and I can't get over how terrible it feels, like I made a mistake, when he charges into sword infantry. I feel like 2 of my lines in the unit get demolished and the cav gets away with 4 or so causalities.

tl;dr Is it ever really a bad thing to frontal charge sword armed infantry? How about heavy armored infantry, but not spears?
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>>162399557

What game? The AI flanks with cavalry in the newer ones.
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>>162399557

Are you just sitting there and recieving the charge? Charge bonus is a big factor. If you aren't using defensive infantry you need to be charging as well.
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HELP my game crashes during turn change
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Be honest guys would you have the balls to commit seppuku for you emperor. could you make up a poem on the spot?
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>Black orcs can't swap weapons like in tabletop

If archers can, what's stopping them from giving the same to black orcs?
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>>162399856
Let's say Medieval 2 for the old games, and Warhammer for the new ones.

Does cav get punished for frontal charging sword infantry standing still? Also my memory might be tainted by the shitty charges from M2 where it's better to charge units standing still because if you collide with the few running ones out in front of the rest it's like your men stop charging to engage in melee.
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>>162400295

because youz muckin about
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>>162400174
updated drivers?
disabled mods?
verified cache?
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>>162400156
Ah, see, there's something I was never clear on, when to counter-charge.
Should I be standing still with spears (facing correctly, obviously) and charging with anything else?
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>>162400238
Reikland's done:
The End Times herald
The Age of Shitmar
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>>162400295

That'd be pretty cool. Spears if fighting cav, great weapons for monsters, hand weapons for everything else.
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>>162400446

Generally with Spears, you just want to get into combat with cavalry period, so you wind up chasing them around a bit and rarely get the ideal scenario

If they are actually are going to charge into your Spears, you want your spearmen to be still and many ranks deep. This will give them the mass required to absorb the charge properly. If your spear unit is spread thin, they'll run over the whole unit and you'll take more casualties.

For swords, it's bad if cavalry is charging, I usually charge back just to maximize the amount of casualties they take for it.
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>>162400815
>Spears
get that git outta 'ere
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G O B L I N S
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>>162400815

Their options are Sword n Board for the defensive option, two hand weapons for smashing two gits at once, and great weapons for smashing tough gits one at a time
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>>162400975

Skaven aren't in the game though?
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>>162400975
>skaven
???
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>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
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>>162397649
>4 base campaigns
you forgot to tell him the part where its all the same campaign and you're just playing different factions in it and how it removes all level of control from you on the campaign map
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>>162400975
>skaven
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>>162401341
lol
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I don't own the King and the Warlord DLC. Does that mean I can't play as Night Goblins?
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>>162401341
forgot?
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I mean, thanks guys but I really think you should be focusing on Archaon and the 7 stacks of norscans roaming around
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>>162401341
They are different enough.
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>>162401475
you can play with Night Goblins, but you can't play as Skarsnik (nor you can use Squig herds, Squig hoppers, Nasty Skulkers or Night Goblin warbosses)
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Where does the reddit rat meme come from?
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>>162401629
they're popular on reddit
4chan hates reddit
boom, they're nicknamed reddit rats
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>>162401629
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>>162400975

>skaven
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>>162401629

Skelesfags desperately trying to make other factions sound unappealing so more people will be interested in their shitty bunch of nobodies.
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>>162401341
>how it removes all level of control from you on the campaign map
What?
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>>162401629
Dumbasses who like to shit on anything that people find fun
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Should I rename settlements I capture as the Welfs?
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>>162401759
reddit loves warhammer
/twg/ was overrun with redditors
makes sense
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>Getting my shit pushed in as Otomo early game
I'm a disgrace. Christ didn't die for this.
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>>162401759
They're popular everywhere.
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>>162401820
Yes, name them as concentration camps
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>>162401852

Just send a group of gunners and spearmen to the bridge nearby

The AI will take the bait every single time
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>>162400420
Still crashes, rip me seriously
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>>162401593
How the fuck is Beastmen still alive that far into the campaign?
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>>162402179
Haha ya, that's pretty much what I tried. After a few turns nothing happened so I crossed over to take a province and got ambushed, it was all down hill from there after the Shomi came in from behind.

Hot Catholic Asian Double Teamed By Hot Samurai Dick.mkv
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>>162402306
They respawn.
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>>162402306

They respawn every time yopu upgrade the oak you dork
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So what do the wood elves do with civilians of conquered territory?

Are they the real rapists?
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>>162402537
Probably sends them away.
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>>162402438
>>162402484
With their LLs and everything?
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The entire northern and eastern portion of the map in Attila is fucking desolate. FUCKING HUNS STOP RUINING THE GAME REEEEEEEE
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can chaos ever recover???
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>>162402685

Yes

Why does that surprise you?
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>>162402685
Sometime they spawn with a different starting leader but they will recruit their LLs when they have the chance.
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>These auto-resolve odds

Geez, step it up Moghur.
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>>162402801
for
>>162402645
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>>162402805
Because it's a good idea, something CA has a severe lack of
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>>162402948
that's just a placeholder army until you get the final battle anyway
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Why is Chaos so shit? They look the most intimidating.
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>>162402801
>>162402960

Not even the dwarfs can.
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How the hell do I play Welves in GC? I started as Dudethu but fuck, Dryads crumble in a line.
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If this is how battles are gonna feel in M3, I'm all in, baby.
Too bad CA doesn't have obvious engine test games like Paradox. March of the Eagles being a pre-EU4 for example, and Sengoku for CK2.
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So if we have maps and everything of most cities in warhammer and pictures of them then why don't the siege battles reflect this. Why is middenheim the same goddamn map as any other shitty citywhen it should be on a mountain and where the fuck is its massive cannon? Why isn't that a mechanic where siege battles against major/important cities have unique mechanics? It was really fucking disappointing in the beastmen campaign. I was expecting them to put at least a modicum of effort in and have an absurdly huge battle with my 4 stacks of beastmen against todbringer's 2 stacks and garrison and instead I get a shitty walled settlement and I had to get rid of the warherds because they caused the game to fucking crash and CA still hasn't fucking fixed it yet as far as I'm aware.
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>>162403059
DLET THIS
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>>162403045
CA fucked up chaos in one very significant way.
Their capes are all flowy in the wind instead of dragging along the ground as if they were actually made of heavy hide. Makes em look shit
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So is Todbringer a LL? As in if you confederate him he will never die permanently? Red Duke also, same question.
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>>162403113
Just spam wardancers with asrai spears.
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>>162403184
L A Z Y
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>>162403264
Don't those take Amber if I start as trees?
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>>162403171
I hope the battles are a little bit slower though.
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>>162401810
I can't wait for Queer Headtaker
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>>162403258
I never tested that, would guess that he switches to generic lord once you confederate
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>>162403184
Bring back Medieval terrain. Where if you see a big hill in the corner of the battle square as it zooms in on the armies, then by god that's where you'll deploy.
>>162403337
Yeah.
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>>162403279
More like greed/shitty budget.
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>>162403258
When Skarsnik confederates with Greenskins, their lords are properly legendary
I think Boris can die though I've never let it happen
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>reinstall
>it still crashes any time another faction enters king's glade

seriously what in the unholy fuck is wrong with this update
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>>162401629
Skaven fanbase is notoriously obnoxious and it triggers the crap out of them.
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Quite surprised at how poorly the treekin fared against armored trolls, they couldnt penetrate the armor at all i thought their charge defense might have helped.

However the Wardancers with spears are amazing, they absolutely shred Minotaur even if they take the charge. Most other factions infantry cant take on Minotaurs even if they are anti large.
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>>162403059

Why does he carry a bow if all he ever does is throw those spears?
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>>162403258
Pretty sure he is a LL

>>162403432
Nope. You get him with his unique stats and so on.


>>162403184
>because they caused the game to fucking crash and CA still hasn't fucking fixed it yet as far as I'm aware.

Has this been reported?
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What Wood Elves outpost is best to build on mass and start bonus stacking, Sacrificial Grounds or Foraging Groves?
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>>162403630
Fuck bows, dude
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>>162403326
Yeah, spend your amber on them. Most other amber things are useless. Also, the tree units are terrible. The only thing the big one has going for it is being able to tank an absurd amount of damage but aside from that they are essentially shitty giants.
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>>162403624
how the hell did you play without a lord?
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I noticed something interesting today: the spell animation for Gehenna's golden hounds from the lore of metal is very similar to Orion's ability 'Hounds of Orion.'

Is there lore behind this similarity?
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>>162402306
>>162402438
>>162402484
I don't know if it's just because I'm playing on Very Hard, but they respawn constantly - not just when you upgrade the oak
They and other tribes (jagged horn, etc) seem to just materialize in Estalia and start razing any outposts you have nearby
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>>162403816
Mod search "Custom Battle General Unit Mod Ver. Realm of Wood" in workshop.
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>>162404021
The lore is the old ones were lazy jews and when they made magic they were very unoriginal.
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>>162404041
They and savage orc hordes could respawn before the dlc. It's an old thing.
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>>162403208
>Implying that's the only thing they fucked up with Chaos and not the god awful campaign mechanics for them that make them the most unfun faction to play
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>>162404021

No, just CA reusing assests.
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>>162404041
That's what Beastmen do. Don't listen to these idiots who are saying they only respawn when you upgrade. They spawn periodically throughout the game.
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>>162403740
20% income is much better than 10% missile/melee strength because the income percentage is not only much larger but more relevant (40 strength going up to 44 is barely anything)
The experience might be nice but only if it affects garrisons like Vlad's ability does
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>>162403740

Foraging, at least early on

You need the cash and growth way more early game than the XP
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Anyone for some battles? We could do inter /vg/ 3v3s or something. I'm half garbage can but it'd be fun since randos are worse than me and quick battles doesn't work.
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COME THE FUCK ON
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>>162404375

>fighting Vlad with no-name-tree-humper

You deserve this
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>>162404375
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>>162404375
Legendary Lords were a mistake
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>>162404375
Nagash was weak, and so are you.
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>>162400238
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>>162404375
>tfw this has happened to me

Except I was the vamp lord
RIP Vincent Mercer
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>>162403624
Treekin aren't damage dealers and it even says they don't have anti-armour capabilities on their unit card.

Treekin should form a solid and immovable battleline, they'll hold for ages and if properly supported will never, ever die. But they're not killy.
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>include female lord
>make them inferior with hidden stat

top kek
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>>162404789
Woman are inferior to men
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>>162398085
Are these models within the game files or something?
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>>162404789
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>>162404909

Hellcannon is crewed by chaos Dorfs
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>>162404930
where the fuck is this from?
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>>162404375
Just Vladdy boy being Vladdy boy
>>162404735
>t. Manlet von Small
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>>162404930
Amazons when?
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>>162404789
Wait, are all the 15s save one male?
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Skaven are rat ninjas i am the most hyped for then besides lizardmen wtf
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>>162404471
it's a garrison ya dingus
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>>162400238
this fucking not haiku triggers me so much
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>>162405498
its a real haiku you idiot its by a monk.
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>>162405301
I'm hype for Skaven aswell, I want to drive around in my doomwheel and gas the kikes with my globaldiers.
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>start up ERE campaign
>have to deal with the visigoths
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>>162404930
I'm not even an sjw or anything but this animation is such a lazy jab at women
I bet it's french
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>>162404783
How do you use such a small unit to tie enemies down, cant the enemy just run around them.
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>>162404191
>>162404289
Thanks anons. Brettonia will become a paradise grove where elf and man frolick in harmony. Norsca and the Badlands will become a sacrificial slaughterhouse.
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>>162405670
Just stretch 'em out, I can usually catch 2 units of infantry with 1 unit of treekin, they'll hold 'em all day.
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>>162405670
Who the fug is running around Wood Elves?
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>>162404930
Ahhhhhh Athel Loren
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>>162404058
I can't get the stupid arachnarok spider to work. It starts with 2 of them instead of one so I can't do any testing with it.
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>See the Chaos Dwarf posters posting in this thread
>Read up on Chaos Dwarf lore
>It's actually fucking awesome

Why the fuck would they discontinue that shit and not just mash em together with regular chaos as interchangeable units on the Tabletop game? I hope they make a new army of them or get put in TW, other wise I might consider picking up FW's Chaos Dwarf army because it looks rad as fuck.
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>>162405642
It certainly looks like French animation.
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>>162405568
that's piss easy? they ruin themselves attacking garrisons and then you can swoop in with your nearby armies
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>>162405958
Enlighten me why are they so cool? Is it the hats?
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>>162405550
show me the romaji so I can believe you
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>>162405951
Just use a random lord or unit then use an arachnorak as a second unit against the unit you want to fight against.
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>>162405958
To be fair, the hellcannon crew ever so slightly is a mashup of CD and regular dudes
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Atilla is a fun game
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>>162405958
Choad Dwarfs are going to be a top tier army TWW:
>Top-tier dwarf anvil infantry
>Top-tier dwarfan artillery, inluding unique rocket & earth shaker cannon units
>Centagor-style heavy monsterous cavalry
>Super-fast hobgoblin wolf rider fast cavalry
>Monsterous mounts & seperate units
>Magic casters
Basically all of the anvil & artillery strengths of dwarfs, but without the mobility or monster weaknessses.
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>>162406103
Because unlike Chaos who fuck around being barbarians, these guys straight up go Mordor mode and build endless massive dark spires and forge shit. And the idea of corrupted dwarves is cool as hell.
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How do Treemen compare to Shaggoths and Giants?
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>>162406676
They can take a lot more damage but have a huge weakness to fire, the ai isn't smart enough to do anything about it though. A Player can easily focus fire them with the fire upgrade glade guard.

Do siege weapons deal fire damage?
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>>162406530
Chaos Dorf spellcasters should take damage whenever they cast spells, only a small amount, to represent the fact that the more they cast the faster they turn to stone.
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>>162406850
>Do siege weapons deal fire damage?

The flame cannon does.
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>>162406029
yeah well im bad so
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>>162406676
More hp less damage, I have not tested them a huge amount but they do feel a lot weaker they don't perform quite aswell against infantry blobs as giants, and lack the speed or charge of a shaggoth.
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tfw not completing all the bonus objectives in time
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Wood Elves are gay.
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>>162407670
t.Beastman
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>Kurnous is literally a beastman

WELFS BTFO
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Tall grass doesn't make for good carpets but I tried my best

>>162403740
Early on foraging
Later switch them to sacrificial grounds
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The best part about foot elves is when you start winning and the enemy stat breaking, you can have you archer line follow them and fire while chasing.
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>he doesn't bring sisters of thorn for constant non-magic buffs
>he doesn't bring lore of life for constant regen

Maybe it's just because the boys are gold chevron at this point but my spearmen held out the entire battle ez
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>>162407826

Naw son Beastmen are Chaos Mutants.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU_yNE2MMOU

This is what ilsiten to when i elf
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>spellsinger got 235 kills in final battle at the silver spire
do buffs/debuffs give assist kills now, or did I really kill that many beastmen with the pit of shadows? I only used it like 3 times in the whole battle
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>>162404767
Mercier*
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>>162408656
Spellsinger can attack too you know with a weapon strength of like 230 or something iirc
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>>162406530
You forgot the part where Chaos Dwarfs are race number 14 out of 16 to get released, meaning that they'll be extremely improved compared to other races due to CA learning from Chaos Warriors onward how NOT to design a race.

>>162406860
>Chaos Dwarf rulers are spellcasters

I can see this possibly being something that makes them a lot less fun to play if magic continues being shit
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>>162406860
do warhammer dorfs slowly turn to stone with age? I know that is in some settings but i didnt know it was in warhamms
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>>162408910
AOE buffs seem to be alright
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>>162408836
I made sure to keep her behind my line, and I doubt she'd get more kills than my more powerful units there, even my wild riders only had 180 kills, and they had the second most behind her
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>>162408910
They're also pretty decent in CC and are durable as balls, so you could spec them into support if you didn't want to invest in magic times.

>>162409037
I don't know about regular dorfs, but Chaos Dorfs are explicitly stated to slowly turn to stone because they use magic and that's antithetical to their dorfishness. There was a special rule in their FW army book to represent this, I think.
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>>162409037

Just chaos dwarf magic users, it's the negative side effect of being a magic resistant race using magic.
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>>162409037
They turn to stone if they use/channel magic like everyone else instead of working on it with runes
Chaos dwarf sorcerers have all sorts of fancy ways to prevent themselves from turning to stone, like mechanical leg/braces to keep them trudging along
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>>162409037
Nah, only Chaos Dwarfs. It's like when a human worshipper of Chaos gets more mutations until they degenerate into Spawn.

Normal dwarfs don't even use magic, runes are something different apparently.
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I think magic is just fine.
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>>162409368
t. dwarf player
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>>162409368
Into the book it goes
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Congratulations, CA. Someone knows the word "reconnoiter".
Showoffy fucks.
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>Start fresh Empire
>Fight an army slightly smaller than my own, same melee count, slightly less missiles, and they have no cavalry.
>I spend 10 minutes getting the perfect positioning I'm uphill, my spears clash with their spears 1 on 1, and my missiles and cavalry are off to the side and wrecking up shit
>All they have left is their spears, and I crash my cavalry into the back of the and my archers are harassing them from afar
>Game says I'm winning
>Lean back and watch the magic
>After a minute or two, it's becoming clear that both my spears, which should have been equal one on one, and my cavalry is getting butchered
>I loose after a fuck ton of my army is murdered for reasons
the fuck?
What's sad is how often this sort of shit happens to me.
Tactically, I feel do almost everything right, but my melee always end up dying to their equally capable melee, and everything falls apart
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>>162409185
Who knows, maybe that aoe spell killed a weakened blob or two
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>>162409946
Maybe it's cos elves are supposed to be showoffy fucks?
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Reminder that /twg/ is an anti-anime general
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>>162410002
yeah maybe something's wrong there. Is it maybe that they're using buffs while you're not? Otherwise I know of no mechanic that would allow that to happen
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>>162410002

check the battle difficulty.
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>>162410090
squig ball when?
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>>162410090
>Antiochus gets booted in the face trying to tackle the anime girl
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>>162410090

>Half the fucking team are just regular players with an image on their head

Ridiculous.
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>>162401852
>Start again
>Every single neighbor declares war by turn 5
IT KEEPS HAPPENING
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Why do people say next TW is going to be Victoria again?
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>>162410002
What difficulty? Because on the higher ones their units are always better than your equivalents.

Still, you probably shouldn't be able to just sit back and do nothing a lot. Maybe your archers were shooting your own men and giving the enemy free kills. Cavalry shouldn't be stuck into infantry, they need to charge over and over again.
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>>162410090
where do I keep up to date with this?
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>>162410328
if you don't mind using your spectacular modding skills for PES you could always lend a hand
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>>162410090
Reminder that Antiochus is a laughable failure
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>>162410002
any difficulty other than Normal for battles the AI gets magical asspull buffs because it can't into tactics
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>>162410431
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_7

I post in the thread before every game, too.
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>>162410437
Someone needs to rip Skarsniks head for G O B L I N S
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>>162404668
What's with Manfred's list?
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>>162411297
He's the TRUE emperor
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Is DX12 any good yet?
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gotta love how you can pull cheeky kills with wood elf garrison, better snipe some units than just autoresolve the loss
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playing as Archaon for the first time since I realized I've almost wasted $7 by not playing the chaos warriors at all

what am I in for? any tips?
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>>162404909
Reskinned hammerer armor with chaos dwarf heads Radious'd on top
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I think I'm completely drained on Attila. I hate the setting and I'm burned out. Is warhams any fun?
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>>162411910
The worst most unfun campaign in existence
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>>162411910
Enjoy whack a mole.
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>>162411910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
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>>162411297
Sigmar founded the Empire.
Vlad commenced the first Vampire War on the basis that he was most fit to rule it, being several generations older than any other Empire noble at that time, and Sylvania being better off than several other provinces.
Mannfred then would be Vlad's heir after he died and Konrad got himself killed.
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>>162412169
>>162411297
Why did they make Man the primary vampire lord and not Vlad?
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>>162412424
He hates Vladdy.
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>>162412424

I think they different plans for the game during production and decided to go for LL's that were alive at the implied timeline (2502 i think) and manny was pretty much the only of the carstein trio kinda active at that point (he was ded but got resurrected).
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>>162411910
Don't listen to these fags, there's nothing wrong with Chaos Warriors if you know what you want.

Firstly, cosmetics is key, either get Chaos Cosmetics V2 or Chaos Warriors with Swords (several differences, mainly capes).

Second, know how to get the most out of the campaign. Beeline for Warriors and forget about upkeep, as Norscans settlements give Huge moneys. Once you've hatefucked the Norse out of growth and money head south, they should either beg for peace or waste away completely.

Then fight whatever you want and make armies however you want. Battles and sackings will earn tonnes of loot, and you can support as many armies as you want. Keep recruiting instead of trying to replentish.
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>>162412424
Vlad is technically dead and gone in the timeframe the game is set (Karl Franz' coronation), he only comes back when Nagash does so personally in the End Times
In this case, he's just there because he's cool
Vlad's death was after Mannfred meddled in his siege of altdorf, causing the loss of his ring that revives him
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>>162412424
Vlad was a few hundred years deaded
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>>162411910


think yaketty sax but with burning settlments and you running away
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So is the Emperor usually the elector count of Reichland? what did Franz do before becoming Emperor?
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>>162392412
Okay so, despite some switching around of the order, the datamine still appears to be pretty accurate for DLC that costs money.

The next race should be Tomb Kings if CA are sticking with the schedule for the first game. But that still leaves DLC 7, which is between the Wood Elves release and the Tomb Kings.

I've been trying to think about what is left to include that would be okay for them to sell. But I'm drawing a bit of a blank. I suppose they could do another Legendary Lord pack, but that seems odd since there wouldn't be many units left for the initial four races for them to include along with the Lords.

Any thoughts?
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>>162411910
Make sure to get the + horde growth lord skill before anything else. Dismantling the marauder building reduces the growth cost of other buildings so you should do it as soon as you can make the chaos warrior building. Don't worry too much about awakening the tribes because it's a gigantic waste of time. Even though your stacks take attrition next to each other you can still use them to reinforce as long as you attack in the same turn. And make sure you get block army on your wizards and lightning strike on your lords
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>>162413005
prince of altdorf
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>>162413005

any elector can be the emperor, it just have been mostly reiklander electors keeping the title for a few centuries. Karl was the prince of altdorf and count of some shithole before becoming emprah. He would have been just the elector of reikland if Boris had become emperor.
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God wood elves were such a disappointment

Even the forest spirits aren't any good
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Any good books for WHFB? Where to get started? I bet there's a list somewhere for the various factions that would guide me.
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>>162413041

Maybe empire races
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>>162413041
Skaven are probably next, after Bretonnia they are the last faction to fill that side of the Old world
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>>162413350
you are a little too late
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>>162413164
>>162413005
Boris was set to become the emperor as well but Volkmar put his vote in for Karl and his vote counted for 2 which gave Karl the win.
If you ever wondered why Boris and Middenland are pissy cunts
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>>162413041
Well Bretonnia FLC is in February. There's still units they can add to empire and greenskins so we might see a lord pack based around them but probably not til March at the earliest.
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Will we ever get any grill LLs for Empire?
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Is there any nation I can play in Rome II that has a fuckton of falcatas?
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>>162413498
Empire doesn't have female units iirc, I think that's just the three elf factions
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>>162413403
did they stop printing them? i remember the last time i looked there were like no ebooks
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>>162413305
Dissapointment how?
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>>162413041

They can still add shit to the empire (leitdorf and Helleborg) but i really hope the next dlc would be a Legendary hero DLC for all the factions (dlc factions get theirs in a complimentary free patch) so we can finally have Krell and pals.
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>>162413498
Kislev has a tzarina but they're not empire
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>>162413525
play EB/XC as iberians or some shit
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>>162413368
So something like a fleshed out Middenland as a subfaction release? I can see that, and it wouldn't require too much effort on CA's part.

>>162413424
Well I was assuming that DLC 7 (whatever it may be) would be released in January. Considering so far they have been (mostly) consistent with releasing DLC each month. I suppose they could also just do a FLC release to fill in the wait for Bretonnia too though.

Any choices in particular for Legendary Lords? People keep asking for Elspeth for the Empire, but I doubt they will include a Forgeworld character before the main 8th edition ones.
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>>162413305
Wood elves are fine, they just need to buff the armor of the elder guard a bit
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>>162413703
Has CA ever mentioned Kislev?
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>>162413714
what are those?
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>>162413553

Actually I have never seen a female dwarf, do they even exist?
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>>162413798
There is dwarf grudge about kislev vodka.
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>>162413498
Elspeth von Draken is basically the only one of note and even then it's a fringe case
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>>162413568
They're the weakest faction I've ever played
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>>162413350
>>162413565
>http://www.mediafire.com/folder/2qbp22o8ch8qc/Warhammer_Fantasy_Batt

It doesn't have all of them, but it has a pretty damn decent amount. You won't see many physical copies in a bookstore in my experience anymore. Though I think they still occasionally produce the Gotrek and Felix novels since those have always been the most popular.
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>>162413742

Fleshed out middenland

Maybe a marienburg/nordland as well

Just any empire races really though i see it being FLC more than anything
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>>162413884
Do dwarfs even consume hard liquor?
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on turn 62. is it inevitably gonna come down to war with the empire now? should i strike first while Franz is distracted in the north?
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>>162413926
>I don't know how to micromanage the post

If you think Wood Elves are weak, then it is probably just a case of you not being very good at their playstyle anon. Seriously, they aren't that weak at all if you just learn how to not be shit with them.

>>162414002
I'm pretty sure I see Middenheim in the new FLC chart, so I can see them being a free subfaction release.
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>>162413926

They're supposed to be a pokey get in and out sorta race though anon

But them being weak doesn't make the DLC a dissapointment does it? Only needs some tweaks
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>>162413832
Yeah
They're really scarce though, there are a few events and stuff in the dwarfs campaign that mention them.
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>>162413832
yes and they're basically thicc breedstation housewives with their weight portraying their health
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>>162414132

Sure, but I have never seen one, have you?
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>>162414165
Dowries paid for their weight in gold for a reason
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>>162413832
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>>162414117
The mini-campaign was a joke, finished it on my second try on Legendary
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>>162413896
>Elspeth von Draken
Considering how they love to give Empire wizards and she seems to have a pretty up to date model and three pieces of unique wargears (they Scyth, the timekeeper, and dragon) I can see here being released alongside the generic amethyst wizard.

They could also make some wizards female as well.
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>>162413742
It's more like 1.5 months between DLC and then there's the holiday break too. Grombrindal will be flc in January I think.
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It would be amazing if they fleshed out all the Empire states tbqh.
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>>162414076
I did a test in custom battle. dryads against swordsmen, ranked up the swordsmen to get equal value

Used vanguard to get a complete encirclement from the start

EVEN WITH that massive, micro-managed, advantage it was a complete battle of attrition

I don't believe you
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>>162414417
>Stirland
That's the kind of flag you'd find on here
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>Playing co-op with friend.
>He's Durthu, I'm Clan Angrund.
>Red Wood Elf faction declares war on me.
>Wyrdioth joins them.
>Waddle over and we take both of those provinces.
>Planning on taking King's Glade later.
>Wood Elves can't beat my army of warriors and quarrelers.
rip :^)
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>>162414456

DOOT
O
O
T
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>>162414312
The problem is that there isn't any precedent (as far as I can tell) of them utilizing Forgeworld material.

While the line between GW and Forgeworld content is pretty much nonexistent these days, they kept things very separate when Elspeth was introduced.

While I'm pretty sure CA will eventually start putting in some Forgeworld stuff into the game, they seem to be placing more priority in getting all the things from 8th Edition in first.

>>162414417
I don't quite remember the Empire stuff as much, but other than Kislev (which isn't really empire at all) and Middenland was there anything that made the others particularly unique?
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>>162414417
So Ostland used to control Slyvania?
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>>162414442
I did four test battles against Dwarfs, Empire, Greenskins, and Beastmen.

I won all four - Close, Close, Pyrrhic, and Decisive.

Wood Elves aren't weak, you just gotta git gud.
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>>162414667
What? No. Stirland did.
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>>162414836
>this faction isn't underperforming, you just need better skills than you would with other factions to get similar results!
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>>162414649
Nordland being raided constantly and also expansionist against Hochland, Averland kind of coo-coo
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Are boarder princes de-jure part of the Empire?
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>>162414836
>Gotta play at 100% efficiency whereas you could half ass a victory with the other vctions

reaccly knuckles my mental buckle
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>>162414931
Not better, but certainly different.

You can't just slam your line into theirs and passively expect to win, you've got to be an active player and monitor what your army is doing as a whole during the battle.

Read the guide that CA recently released, I think it'd really help a player like you.
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>>162413928
Thanks dud.
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Whose best if you just want to slam into the enemies lines, orcs or chaos?
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>>162415250
Dorfs, except you wait for them to slam into you.

Dorfs are Passive Play: The Faction
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>>162415338
Well that's a great answer to a different question entirely.
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>>162415163
>you can't just beat the enemy by completely surrounding their force and engaging it from all sides, you need to think differently
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>>162415250
Definitely Chaos, since they can hardly pretend to have ranged options.

Your whole strategy is to get your main body of infantry into the fight and keep it there, while more specialist parts of your army prevent the enemy from retaliating effectively.
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>>162415250
Chaos has the better, stronger infantry single player wise, but Orks have more options.
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>>162414279
>ywn cuddle with her
why
even
live
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>>162414649

Without going into too much detail, CA could try to find a way to convert their traits into the Total War world.

Wissenland - Famous for its artillery/black powder weapons
Averland - Marius "The Halfling Holocaust" Leitdorf, famous for cattle trade
Talabecland - Expert Woodsmen
Hochland - Best marksmen, hunters/trackers, home of the hochland long rifle
Nordland - Strong, hardy people who have grown up in the shadow of Norsca their whole life

Too tired to type the rest..
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>king's glade in ruins for past 10 turns
why are wood elfs retarded
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>>162414417
Why the fuck is The Moot considered its own state? Is it like the Vatican city of Warhammer?
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Here's my campaign trying to make Glade Guard decent, 80 armor isn't horrible right?
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why the fuck do these horde shits beeline to me past everyone else?
this is Mount & Blade minor fiefdom hell all over again
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>>162416238

Most of the empire haven't even heard of The Moot.

Also reminder that halflings are NOT people
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>>162415613
You would have higher chance of banging elf lass than her, dwarfs have 1 to 10 female ratio.
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>>162416276

*Eternal Guard, my bad
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how does one play Empire?
>>
How are you supposed to start off as wood elves?
>8 garrison at the castle
>8-20 units depending on how much the AI recruits
>can't afford more than ~17 units yourself
What do
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>>162416238
>The Moot
literally who?
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>>162416493
You expand outwards and then get destroyed by beastmen
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>>162405357

Your mom's a garrison
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And another mini-campaign that's boring as fuck. Thanks CA.
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>>162416493

Take over the other elf strongholds because they will never ever accept confederation.
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Just got this, is any of the dlc worth buying at full price?
Not like i haven't got the money but saving money is always good
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>>162416493
run a minor deficit for a 20 stack and raze faraway shit or capture shit
protip: don't go to estalia
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>>162416472
we live in a day and age where you gotta specify if you're talking about the game or the warhammer faction
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>I had a lot of fun on this one!!!! I think he was the first character to have eyelashes in the game, due to him being a cinematic character and a huge fella!!!!!

I can't believe I never noticed this, but yeah Orion does seem to be the only character with eyelashes. That's actually pretty fucking weird.
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>>162416542
>>162416367
I don't understand your memes
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>>162416603
I confederated them all easily. Maybe because I owned 3 provinces prior?
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>>162416629
The faction.
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>>162416613
If you got the game, might as well get Grim and Grave and King and Warlord so that you can get access to the same units that the AI would get to use again you (as well as getting access to RoRs). Beastmen and Wood Elves are priced high because they include a shit mini-campaign with their race pack, so you should wait for some sort of sale on those.

Chaos Warriors still needs to be fixed to be a little less boring, but you could buy them as well.
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>>162404375

Sasuga best Papa Vlad
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>>162416613
If you want to enhance your Empire and Vampire rosters, grab the Grim & Grave. If you want to enhance your Dwarf and Greenskin rosters, grab the King & Warlord. They're both worth it price-wise but you might want to wait until they go on sale.

Chaos Warriors are not worth it and are shit.

Beastmen price is steep so you should probably wait for a sale.

Wood Elves is the biggest DLC but they're also a challenge to play. I'd say it's priced about right for what you get.
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wut's this?
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>>162416648
>These were the first elves we made on the project over a year ago now. It was fun defining the style and getting a chance to work on some cool elves.

Pretty much confirmed that Wood Elves were at the very least started quite a while ago. I mean I already guessed this was the case, but it's nice to have someone actually say it.

Though I wonder what it was that made them push it back to December.
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>>162416870
I thinks its supposed to signify a significant battle the empire fought.
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>>162416870

A battle where a lot of dudes died.
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>>162416870
location of a large battle
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>>162416757
>>162416840
Wonderful, thanks anons
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Why was Westerland renamed Wasteland?
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>>162416276
I've been wanting to set up armies specific to what council member the general is. wardancer army, eternal guard army, etc.
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>>162416493
Confederate the other elf houses, don't conquer them
You can expand anywhere but the most lucrative are shorelines because ports give 100 wealth each, plus a certain technology adds 400% to that

What I did (very hard)
>Expand west into hostile Brettonian lands
>make as many NAP and Trade agreements as possible with anyone who'll listen, try to befriend Brettonians who aren't bordering other elf provinces or you
Then:
>expand into Estalia for more port money
>if you want, keep expanding into the border princes, I never did
OR
>expand into all the little orc holds nearby, Angrund will constantly try to drag you into wars so this may be safer but less rewarding

Don't waste your time trying to conquer the other elves, try to be as nice as possible to them.
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>>162416603
I also confederated super easily as soon as I got the prerequisite upgrade.
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>>162392702
Vladi?
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Why does it take so long to process all the turns? Maybe I'm naive as fuck, but after playing Warband or Paradox games it seems strange they can handle a million times more information in real time than Total War games do when asked.
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>>162417302
Too add: if you're really strapped for cash, remember to disband armies if you don't think you'll need them for a long time. It's cheaper to disband now and recruit 4 or 5 turns later than to have them sit forever.
Another thing you can do is send an army way away to some foreign land and start pillaging undefended settlements. There's next to no chance of them coming back at you, as the wars with their neighbors will likely cause them to accept a peace treaty as you get more powerful. I would advise only going after orcs or norscans though, since the "good" factions are your bulwark against Archaon's rape train
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>>162416472
Use your 1 unit of reiksguard to destroy every other region surrounding you?
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...Why do Khazrak and Malagor both have Morghur's ground corruption visual effect? Does CA even test this stuff?
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>>162417839
probably intentional
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>>162417614
Get an SSD.
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Alright, if I grab grim and grave will it nullify my game I'm playing now? I have shit hope of it being compatible, but I'm only a few turns in... But it is still my first game. I'm Empire.
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>>162392412
Rollan!
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>>162417614

This.
>>162417946
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>>162417946
I do have one, and that doesn't effect the turn times. My lightning fast CPU doesn't make enough of a difference; it's still 10 seconds.
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>>162405958
>>162406530
But Chaos Dwarfs are basically an unknown army with a meme fanbase, what if CA skimps on the funding because of this? CDs will almost certainly be a race pack like the Chaos Warriors instead of a campaign pack (unless CA tries to do something jewy to drive up the price of CDs)

Also will they even bother to model the Lammasu, a unique monster for one of the least popular factions?

Additionally CA will have to do a lot themselves for the Dark Lands and the Mountains of Mourn and the Chaos Dwarfs and Ogre Kingdoms, since GW kind of didn't flesh those regions out sufficiently.

Only Tomb Kings were less popular than the Chaos Dwarfs.
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>>162417917
Morghurs the one whose supposed to corrupt the ground he walks on though, Khazrak is just a normal beastlord
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>>162417917

no way is that intentional
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>>162418015

Anything but dwarfs!
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>>162413553
Respanse D'Lyon for Bretonnia would be an option.
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>>162408267
who cares
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>>162414046
Get up there and help him.
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OUR GENERAL HAS FALLEN
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Do Black Orcs have some kind of fear aurora I don't know about? These Big 'Uns were holding out pretty well, then they shattered pretty much instantly when they got hit in the ass by my boyz.
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>>162410090
Why is Franz the ref?
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>>162418453

To be honest, was the Chaos Wastes ever great to begin with?
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>>162418539
The only Greenskin units that don't teeter precariously on the edge of shitting their pants in every battle are Black Orcs.
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>>162418586
If I had to make a stupid guess. Maybe his 3D model is the closest thing to a Final Fantasy Tactics judge we have?
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>>162418335
Japs and learning that the historical Joan of Arc had fine tiddies and great legs has made me want to do things to Joan.
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>>162418586
He is just, authoritative and handsome.
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>15 turns in
>Orion has already confederated with all three other WE factions

Is this normal? Should I prepare my anus?
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>>162418794
>Wanting to lewd a saint
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>>162416238

A fat corrupt fuck of an Emperor made it's head chief an Elector Count and it's technically independent.

Technically is a big word, because Averland and Stirland make it perfectly clear that if they don't get taxes from the place, they'll watch it burn the next time a horde of orcs comes charging through.
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>>162418713
Well I'm pretty new, but I like them so far. They have a lot of personality, they're a lot better than the Empire or the Vampires in my opinion.
>Gobbos screech with "Waaaagh!" when you select them
>They scream non-stop
>Everyone is a grot or git
>Catapults literally launch gobbos
>Grimgor is a one orc genocide
>The reward for spilling as much blood as possible is the opportunity to spill more blood with a Waaagh!
I'm loving them so far. My only complaint is it is a little tricky to kill dwarves.
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>>162418960

It's not a problem. They'll never expand, and the AI has no idea how to use them properly regardless.

Deal with Marienburg, as usual.
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>>162418982
hey she was only a saint after being burned and i aint see no burn marks on dem legs
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>>162419162
>Marienburg always becomes one of the most powerful factions early on by massing up men constantly with that AI econ
>essential to take it if you want to survive
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>>162418586

/twg/ won the cup last time so i believe we get a special ref
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AAAAH SAVE ME M'LORD
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>>162418982
I'd lewd my dick between her tits, if you know what I mean.

I'd also hold her hand as I take her in the missionary position for the purpose of procreation so that we can have a family together.
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>>162419279
Any more webms of Franzref?
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I just love how violent everything is.
The banter is awesome. "You backed the wrong elector!" Killing men because they don't like the same guy you like.
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>>162419238

I got lucky one game where Marienburg killed themselves on that Orc Tribe just next to them so I could sneak in my stack and take Marienburg.
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>>162419420
Isn't that basically how all wars are?
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>>162419305

>those Breton faces

Jesus, I always forget that canonically, most Breton peasants are Chaos twisted as shit.
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>>162419489
Is that true? I just thought they were ugly as fuck. Empire soldier look like that too.
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>>162419139
Squigs and trolls are good to mix in for extra killy power. Sneaky Stabbin from little waagh also helps a lot. Pretty sure Gobbo Big Bosses have a leadership aura.

When in doubt, hit their archers with squig hoppers.
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>>162414417
>The Moot

Who?
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>>162419489

I love how they look.

>tfw the peasants in TWW don't look nearly half as scummy
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>>162419184
>>162419349
Absolutely disgusting
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>>162419580

The Empire kills obvious Chaos mutants and those who's stigmata is obvious. You can get away with an extra digit on your foot or hand (though it tends to get cut off early in life), but much more and the typical response is abandoning them in the woods.

Bretons don't, as a rule of thumb, so they're populace is way more chaos tainted despite being further from the Wastes.
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>>162419580
Brettonian peasants are incredibly inbred and have plenty of defects like clubfoots but I don't know about chaos corruption outside of specific reigons.
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>>162419651

>tfw your nation executed her

10 to 1 odds someone in the English army raped her before they killed her.
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>>162419458
I suppose, yes. But the US doesn't break out in civil war every election. Close, but all that happens is national unity drops to 50% and some rebel stacks spawn.
>>
>Games Workshop is a British company
>The Old World is fantasy Europe
>Fantasy Britain is mostly absent, barring a few proxy shadow wars

I kind of admire the restraint. Would have been easy to do like most Japanese and American companies and make their particular fantasy land the most relevant.
>>
>cleaning up after a win
>slingers start firing at target which my chariot-general is running down
>OUR GENERAL HAS FALLEN
FUCK THIS GAME FUCK
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>>162418153
Khazrak is just shitting wherever he walks. poopoo peepee
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>>162419651
I would then marry her and have a little farmstead built for us to raise our many future children

>>162419834
At least the English cunt got to enjoy Saintly titties.
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>>162419981
When your people have done so much in Reality, it's kinda boring to do it in Fantasy too

:^)
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>>162419972

Neither does the Empire.

They've been around for more than 2000 years, and have had only two Major civil wars.

That said, they were absolute doozies that lasted centuries. In the lore, everybody accepted Karl pretty quick in the end.
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>>162418015
not a fan of the paint miniatures thing since that's a fair amount of numbers taken up but I aimgine there's not enough for an even divide.

Anyway rolling
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>>162419834
I don't understand how there's peace between the English and French.
Sure, everyone likes to sit on the couch and watch netflix without being bothered.
But they murdered a beautiful teenage girl who was the hero of a nation.
People are still sore about Jesus, they ought to be sore about this.
>>
>>162420063

Sometimes I imagine that my English ancestors didn't actually execute her, but instead shipped her back to Britain to be a baby factory.

Then I remember they mostly weren't degenerates, and they probably took more pleasure in burning her than the rape.
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>>162419981
But Bretonnia is Arthurian Britain plus France and Ulthuan is Altantean Britain plus elves
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>>162420153
They share a common enemy these days. Foreign invaders are flooding in to destroy and defile while the nations governments have been corrupted.
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>>162419983
Guard mode.
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>>162420086
Alright. First Welf campaign. Tips?
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>>162420321
wax da boipucci
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>>162420153

Because we've spent the last 100 years being allies, and the last hundred before that playing realpolitik.

It also helps that both France and Britian underwent major political upheavals between then and now.
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>>162418015
fuck me if i end up with empire
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>>162420218
Meanwhile, my ancestors were just waiting for the English to let them all starve to death.

>>162420153
They realized that neither one could completely destroy the other.
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>>162420153
It's not like she was royalty. She was only a peasant and hundreds of thousands of peasants died the through the years.
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>>162420385
Democracy was a mistake.
You'll notice it only happened some time after Jean's death.
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>>162419651
What about the Christmas version?
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>>162420292
woah what game?
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>>162420440
KHAZAK KHAZUKAT HA
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>>162418982

Joan was so great, shame she fought for the wrong side.
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>>162407826
>Kurnous is literally a hunk
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>>162420276

Bretonnia always took more from France, barring a shitty King Arthur clone who's name is even french.

Ulthuan is pretty much pure Atlantis.

Albion is Britain, and is mostly swamp druids and giants fighting each other. It's a pretty shit place.
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>>162420459
Jean wouldn't have cared that the king was overthrown, he was a degenerate anyway
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>>162419647
Bretonia seems more like fantasy North Korea than fantasy France.

Didn't all the guy who invented their siege weapon get was one silver coin? And that was more than his entire village has ever seen?

I wonder if the Empire has trouble with illegal migrants.
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Gotta pay the gobbos 8500 for a NAP while I'm out pillaging Norsca
feels bad man
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>>162420459

?

It started with the Greeks. Only, they had it on a level where people could comprehend the scale and every single vote actually mattered.
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>>162420276
>Ulthuan is Altantean Britain
How are the high elves British?
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>>162420523
Albion is basically Dark Age Britain
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>>162420523
Albion is druidic Britain, isolated from Europe and spooky
Ulthuan is imperial Britain with outposts all over the world and the best navy ever
Bretonnia is Arthurian Britain but with French people

>Bretonnia took more from France

Such as?

Also Wood Elves are Rhodesia and Dark Elves are Canada
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>>162420605
Breton peasants are fanatically devoted to their lords.

To the point that they will take dead grail knights on crusades.
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>>162420483
Don't worry, it's terrible. You're not supposed to kill them. You're supposed to run. It's not like you can win by gunning them all down or trapping and exploding them.
Might be the last of us 2 or some shit. You're a biker. And bikers are the gayest, least interesting characters ever used in storytelling. About as terrible as using sewers and swamps as locations.
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>>162420586
I don't know, man. According to her, God was telling her to get the king crowned. Sure, later kings were degenerate, but after meeting those three archangels, she probably would have considered the monarchy to be a divine-mandated thing.
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>>162420778
>Don't worry
fuckity tell me famborghini
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>>162420605
>illegal migrants

That is a violation of the Peasant's Duty, as well as conspiracy to steal. Prepare to be quartered and drawn for daring to suggest that peasants should steal from their lords foul knave.
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>>162420731
>Ulthuan is imperial Britain with outposts all over the world and the best navy ever
>Also Wood Elves are Rhodesia and Dark Elves are Canada
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OFFICIAL /TWG/ TOTAL WAR GAMES POWER RANKINGS* (As of December 10 2016) (Stand alone titles only) (All patches and mods taken into consideration)

1. Medieval 1
2. Attila
3. Shogun 2 FotS
4. Medieval 2 & Kingdoms
5. Shogun 2
6. Rome 1 and BI
7. Napoleon
8. Rome 2
9. Empire
10. Rome Alexander
11. Warhammer

*All rankings are final, any post of power rankings that follow this official list should be deemed unofficial and not representative of /twg/ and its community
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>>162420883

I disagree
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>>162420883
I swear these shuffle around every time.
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>>162420883
Parts of this are pretty accurate desu
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>>162420948
Well I'm afraid that your opinion is wrong then, anon, those are the official rankings
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>>162420731

>albion is druidic britain

Yep.

>Ulthuan is Imperial Britain

They don't have those outposts anymore. And the remaining ones are Wood Elves. By that standard, the Dark Elves would be American.

>Bretonnia took more from France

Their naming patterns? Their language? Their geographic location? Their culture? Gilles de Breton borrows some elements from Charlemagne, just like Sigmar.

Cut out Gilles and his King under the Hill myth, and you've got France.
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>>162420682
High Elves are an Empire on the decline steadily being outmatched by the rising power on the continent while living in a splendid isolation on their home island unconcerned with world affairs unless it could directly threaten them, such as the rise of powerful armies in the far east as well as being threatened from the West by people of the same race who seceded from the empire (of course Malekith also draws inspiration from the Jacobites and their Catholic plots to overthrow the rightful Protestant monarchy)

They draw a lot of influence from the late 19th early 20th century Britain

The Germans in this context are the Empire, since the Empire is a relatively new nation whose combined technological and magical knowledge will eventually eclipse the old Elven empire.
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>>162420883
OFFICIAL /TWG/ TOTAL WAR GAMES POWER RANKINGS* (As of December 11 2016) (Stand alone titles only) (All patches and mods taken into consideration)

1. Warhammer
2. Attila
3. Shogun 2 FotS
4. Medieval 2 & Kingdoms
5. Shogun 2
6. Rome 1 and BI
7. Napoleon
8. Rome 2
9. Medieval 1
10. Empire
11. Rome Alexander

*All rankings are final, any post of power rankings that follow this official list should be deemed unofficial and not representative of /twg/ and its community
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>destroy all but 1 Skaeling holding
>create a stronger Varg
was it a good plan
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>>162420678
Modern democracy is teaching us to forget the past in favor of making money because being at war costs money, when some things are actually unforgivable and may only be paid for after a complete generation of subjection.
>>162420840
I said, The last of us 2. But that's a guess. I only remember having seen the trailer.
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>>162420843
Come at me I'm behind seven volley guns.
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>>162420883

>medieval 1
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>>162418015
Roll for the campaign after my orcs
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>>162421043
>rome 2 above med 1
nice try shillman
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>>162420883
>>162421043
You dicks forgot Shogun 1.
Also >>162421043 is a very reasonable list.
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>>162421043
OFFICIAL /TWG/ TOTAL WAR GAMES POWER RANKINGS* (As of December 11 2016) (Stand alone titles only) (All patches and mods taken into consideration)

1. My Favorite
...
11. Your favorite
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Fuck me I think pontic swordsmen might actually be a favourite unit of mine.
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>>162421215
nah anon alexander is p bad
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>>162421117

M1 is outdated and has god awful AI
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>>162421283
Anon it was just a joke about your favorite game being a shit
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>>162421250
BUT
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>>162421294

No but Alexander is really REALLY bad
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>>162420846
Rhodesia=last outpost of the British Empire in Africa after decolonization of the continent which came as a result of the Empire weakening after WWII which unilaterally declared independence from the Empire because they viewed decolonization as betrayal and became something of a haven for Anglo-Africans who didn't want to go back to Europe and had a large indigenous populace who eventually gained control of the country

Athel Loren=last outpost of the Elven Empire in the Old World after the Elves were ordered to return to Ulthuan as a result of the Elven Empire weakening due to the War of the Beard after which they declared independence because they viewed the order to return to Ulthuan as a betrayal and there is a large indigenous population of tree people who would like to overthrow the elves

The Dark Elves are literally in the fantasy version of Canada, but whereas Canadians are nice Dark Elves are huge assholes
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>>162421389
i'm not arguing about alexander being good you fat fuck
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>>162421289
>outdated
nice buzzword senpai
>god awful AI
that's straight up bullshit, M1 was the last time TW AI was remotely competent and even challenging at times
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>>162415114
>>162414931
I like having a faction that takes skill.
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>>162421419
ANON
CALM DOWN
THERE'S NO NEED TO BE RUDE
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>>162421419

Wow m8 rude
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>>162420745
That is awesome. I can imagine those 3 guys pretending to be the horse and having a dead guy charge with the cavalry and get kills.
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>>162421023
Look at the world map. Elves have outposts all over the world, on every continent. They don't have COLONIES anymore but they still have seaports everywhere.

What does Gilles draw from Charlemagne? Also the entire knights thing- their faction's gimmick- is drawn from King Arthur and his own knights. I'm not sure why you're fighting this so hard, this shit is all right in your face.

>cut out the thing which is central to Bretonnia's lore and you have France

Okay? You realize that the most popular versions of the Arthurian myth were written by French people right?
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>>162421493
>>162421556
i'm sorry

you're skinny fucks, nevermind.
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>>162420605
>one silver coin
>Paying peasants ever

I think what that guy got was actually two pigs. Which for a Bretonnian peasant is pretty good as you can start something with that.
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>>162421624
Actually I'm quite shapely thank you very much.
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>>162421624

You're a big guy
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>>162421684
They probably looked better than his wife too
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>Start Durthu campaign

>Trait: Likes Dwarfs
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>>162420605
FYI you are basically living in a similar society without even realizing it. Made you think.
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>when your hero fails 3 times in a row in the most critical of moments
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Hold on. Are there no village fights in Warhammer? I would never sally out to fight in the fucking open with garrison troops.
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>>162421819
I don't remember Serenity being a babe. What's going on here?
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>>162421802
Less hairy, smaller hooves.
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>>162421945

You can build walls around minor settlements otherwise it's open field battle.
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I've sort of noticed this thing happening with some lords/units on the campaign map being grey like this, what's going on?Is this some sorta graphics bug?
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>>162422217
Ah, ok.
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>>162421945
No, CA decided that they wanted to take out yet another feature
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>>162414016
>dwarves not drinking anything they can get their hands on
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>>162422238
Lords go grayscale when they are out of movement points.
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>>162422238
Means they're out of movement, I think.
>>162422342
>Dwarves drinking human """""""""beer"""""""".
Not likely.
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Wow, Great Eagles are fucking terrible.
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>>162422238

Ive seen this too. Does it happen when all your movement actions have been spent? Almost like saying "this lord is spent for this turn". Just a theory.
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>Maybe they've fixed the game
At least this will make the Monkey King arcana cheaper
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>>162418015
R O L L A N
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do you guys have a stack on the south west coast for your outposts because of the breyherd spawns?
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>the forest defense map is also the map for town defense with wall upgrades
wow nice!
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>>162422504
They lose in melee to archers, yeah
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>>162422629
to waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh
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>>162422045
You were probably butthurt at all the weird christian fundamentalism and didn't notice how much of a semen demon she was

>Serenity is basically the opposite of Joyce from Dumbing of Age

hilarious
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>forest battle map
>there's so many fucking trees that arrows don't do shit
>this allows the beastmen to proceed through the forest unmolested by arrows and come and fuck me up in melee

Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
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>>162422645
don't even conquer that way ROFL
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THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT
>Skarsnik campaign on very hard
>Empire keeps invading from the North
>Dwarves from the south
>Every time I wipe out an army, they instantly shit out another stack
>I am constantly ping and ponging from north to south to fend off whichever side I haven't dealt with recently
>I literally haven't managed to take more than two settlements so far
>All of my gobbos have 5 or more chevrons
>Skarsnik is level fucking 15
>I can't do anything
>I CAN'T FUCKING DO ANYTHING
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Why can't we create our own formation presets?
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So how the fuck do I play welves in campaign? All the other elves are fucking cunts and won't leave their cities if I declare war.
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>>162421870
How is that all you have on turn 117?
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>>162421036
What's the America of Warhammer?
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>>162423320
Razed all of Norsca with 1 army
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>>162423301
The same reason we'll never get an army painter or musicians
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Spells will explicitly say that they deal friendly fire, right?
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>>162421289
M1 was the last time TW was good
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>>162423537
all of them do
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>>162423384
>Plays only faction in the game that can occupy Norsca
>Razes it
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>>162394861

>expansion
>is a stand alone game like attilla

fuck off, kid
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>>162423661
Chaos corruption disorder/rebels is too insane to deal with, with 1 army, while they bring in their own forces.
And if you move in with 2 armies by turn 100 or whatever--that ain't as fun.
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>>162423321
Dark Elves
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>>162423065
Ignore the north and the Empire for now. If you only got two settlements, then you mean Karak Norn is still alive? Deal with them. When Karak Norn is dead, create another stack with a night goblin warboss and stick him in the north garrison, and learn to love wolf riders, because they will become your best unit as you go down the "army upgrade" skill tree (as well as getting poison attacks at level 4).

If Skarsnik is level 15, your Skarsnik army should be fucking amazing. Or did you focus on campaign/battle skills?
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>>162423419
...why?
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>>162423795
But they don't really fit the bill
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>>162423832
because CA is shit
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>>162423748
I already did it. I sent Orion and Durthu to subjugate Norsca while my fledgling new stacks maintained and expanded in the mainland. Well before turn 100.
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>>162423886
;-;
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>>162423321
There isn't one because fuck America

This is a British setting
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Any bonuses for holding an entire province as wood elf?
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>>162424018
No.
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>>162423864
>Ruled by black (charred) man
>Soon to be ruled by man who promises make it great again
>sadists who raid other countries for slaves and goods
>sexually depraved and drug addicts
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>>162418015
rollan
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So I can only recruit Orcs from K8P as Skarsnik? Or can I recruit Orcs anywhere once I've captured K8P?
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>pay $45 for tw:wh
>"finally it went on sale"
> a few hours into it, realize I have to pay another $60 for the actual game
So much regret.
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>>162423830
My army is amazing, and my fightiness literally never has a chance to go down so I am constantly spawning a waagh that usually gets killed in 5 turns or less. My charge and attack is great on my Skulkers, the only problem is the Empire are just shitting out armies that are screwing with me. The dwarves aren't that troublesome, but they have me in a viscous circle.
>Kill invading Imperial army
>The other two armies scatter back into their lands
>Dwarves send a pretty good quality army towards me
>March down a turn, then kill them
>Empire comes back
>They siege me
>Spend a turn walking back
>Kill Empire army
>Replenish my troops 2 turns or so
>Empire army shows back up, but scatters when they see me
>Dwarves send another good quality army up
>Repeat
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how is there only one fucking map in all of the game
fuck off
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>>162424261
>he fell for the literal marketers in the thread
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>>162424167
Only 8 Peaks.

In all honesty, it doesn't matter. If you've upgraded Skarsnik right, your Gobbos should be on par with orcs by the time you can get 8 Peaks.
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>>162424264
That's why I'm saying to ignore the Empire. Completely ignore them until you either get peace with Dwarfs (if these aren't Clan Angrund dwarfs) or until you completely exterminate the dwarfs. When the dwarfs are gone, then you attack the Empire. You sack/raze a single Empire settlement, and then they'll beg for peace. Of course, you could also choose to go further and make them regret their choice to bother Skarsnik.

But yeah, ignore the north, kill the stunties, get another stack ready.
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>>162424280
I heard the dlc was bad.
I didn't realize it literally gated off 50% of the game's content and flaunted the fact at me everytime I'm in the menu.
>>
are wood elves worth my precious shill coinz
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>>162424638
Only if your good at micro
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>>162424638
No.
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>>162424261
> units you don't have to use
> races you don't need to play as, two of the three are shit and the third is incredibly gimmicky
> can still fight against all DLC units and races anyway so you're basically getting half of what you'd do with the DLC for free
I don't know anon, I think you're overestimating the contribution of owning all the DLC.
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>>162424638
Not really
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>>162424676
>>162424708
>>162424708
really? it looked better than the shitmen
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>>162424781
It is better than the PooPoo PeePee, but that doesn't make it good.
>>
does anyone post about Attila?
It looks like a nice game, its a shame I only got a toaster
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>>162424418
>lel incomplete game meme

Look anon, I'm just going to cut this off before we get another retarded debate.

Yes it's disapointing that there are only four races in the base game. Yes compared to previous total wars that seems like it is "incomplete", and the abundance of DLC may initially seem like a major turnoff. But the fact of the matter is that there is a lot more work and money involved with this game than the others. It's pretty easy to have a bunch of factions when they were pretty much copy and pastes. Which is obviously not the case for Warhammer (at least unit wise, Beastmen were in terms of mechanics).

Most people look at it as a game that is constantly developing and becoming better as time goes on, rather than a matter of it being incomplete. By the time the trilogy is finished it will be amazing, but obviously the cost you have to pay will go up accordingly.

Honestly, it is better in my eyes to spend however hundreds of dollars this game will cost over the course of a few years, rather than paying for the "complete" product all at once.

Plus there's always the option of not buying the DLC you don't want to play. There are a ton of FLC things added, and DLC content is included to fight against without having to buy them.

>>162424638
They are, the only ones who think it isn't are the people who are shit at playing with them.
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>>162424678

except you cant pvp if you're missing dlc, faggot.
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>>162424953
go shill somewhere else fagtron
>>
FUCK OFF HORDE SHITS; STOP COMING TO ME
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>>162424953

fuck off CA shill/redditor
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>>162424953
>shilling this hard for a job at CA
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>>162424418
It's really not that bad since you don't really have to buy any of it.

You don't care about the Empire or Vampire Counts? Don't bother with the Grim & the Grave.

Same with the race DLC, if you don't give a shit about Beastmen or Wood Elves then don't buy them. They will still be in the game for you to murder.

It is a bit annoying how they make the main menu scream at you about the DLC. But that's just something you'll have to deal with.

>50%

Anon, right now we only have 6 of 15 of the planned playable races. So it's not quite fifty percent that you have to pay more for.
>>
Am I the only one that just wants to DEUS VULT in the name of our fair Lady?

February can't come fast enough.
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I support this game and buy all the DLC because it's all I have left if my precious hobby that was destroyed by GW.

I full fund these games to the ends of the earth to see the full world and all the factions added.
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This is pissing me off because I light nice neat battle lines.

Say I put 4 sword guys side by side. Easy enough to drag out the way I like, right. Now say I put 2 spear guys, 1 on either side. How the fuck do I make it a nice neat line where everyone has the same rank and file without selecting them all and the 2 spear guys ending up next to each other when I drag it out?
>>
So does the retarded "shill" posts just happen everytime a new DLC comes around? Like do the retards just crawl out of the woodwork because they know most of the discussion will be centered around it?
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>>162425526
I'm assuming you mean the blatant shill in >>162424953 and not the people calling him out on it, right?
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>choose Empire
>select Karl Franz to start
>"SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS"
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>>162425443
I'm looking forward to them, but mostly just because I'm curious how they are handling the campaign mechanics and the Green Knight thing. Bretonnia could be introducing some interesting stuff.

At least I hope that is the case, because the amount missing from their roster doesn't seem to justify the delay to February. There must be more than what we initially expected.
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>>162425070
>>162425168
>>162425318
>poorfags from /v/
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>>162425574
>choose Clan Angrund
>select Belegar
>"GRUDGE"
>>
Are wood elves here just as shit as their TT counterparts?
>>
>4 stacks of chaos at my doors at every turn
>repel them
>5 turns later
>the Chaos Invasion event with Archaeon starts
wtf
>>
>>162425553
>posts

It should have been pretty obvious from the letter at the end of that word anon.

The "blatant shill" just posted a pretty damn common response in this general. I've seen it a dozen times before and it only ever gets retarded posts screaming "what a shill!" when a DLC is released.

I'm assuming you guys just think people will care more about your shitposts because they want to defend their purchases or something.
>>
>>162425443
You're not the only one, although I'm waiting for Tomb Kings and Hopefully Araby to happen so we can do some real crusade shit.

Mostly Araby because they're literally stereotypically evil easterners, it's great.
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>>162425526
Poorfags get salty that they have to choose between buying the DLC and eating so they shitpost
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What the fuck is "Gamble"?
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>>162424953
It's okay anon, don't listen to the bullies.
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>>162425553
why are you opposed to him describing positives anyway? do you call everyone enjoying the things they bought shills too?
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>>162425667
>>162425734
>anyone who says anything remotely negative about my precious warhammer is just a poorfag!
I love Warhammer. I have all the DLC.

Warhammer is not a perfect game. CA has made some retarded decisions, pricing being one of them. You're all faggots and shills. Fuck you.
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>>162425678

>choose Empire
>select Volkmar the Grim
>"WAAAAGH"
>>
>>162425789
Is this your first time playing TWW anon?

Gamble is just what it says, you basically flip a coin at the start of the battle. Depending on the result you either get more magic, or less.

Not much to it other than that. Since you have 24 there isn't really much of a point in gambling it.

>>162425859
I just don't bother responding. Like another anon said, this happens everytime a DLC drops. They will just give up after a few days and we can have normal discussions.
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>>162425789

press it.
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>>162424953
>Honestly, it is better in my eyes to spend however hundreds of dollars this game will cost over the course of a few years, rather than paying for the "complete" product all at once.
>I WOULD RATHER SPEND HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS OVER SEVERAL YEARS THAN SPEND SIXTY AT ONE TIME
How the fuck are any of you defending this bullshit? What the fuck happened to you, /twg/?
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crack for warhammer when?
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>>162425989

we got rich :^)
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>tfw can't rape Kholek Suneater
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>>162425989
>anon says that he'd rather pay hundreds over time, rather than paying hundreds all at once
Not only are you faggots lacking money, but apparently you can't read for shit either.
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>>162424418
>50% of the content gated off

Wew

King and Warlord is really the only one you should buy no questions asked because it gives you two new starting positions for established factions so you know you aren't getting fucked on units and the campaign objectives are pretty interesting

You should have four starting races which means you have five starts with the base game including Wurrzag's free starting position

In the case of the DLCs you have no idea what you're getting into

Beastmen are raiders, they have three different start positions and three LLs.

Chaos have a lot of shit mechanics and the fact that they were CA's first DLC really shows

In the case of both if you've never played a horde before then you probably will end up disliking it like most people. Only buy if you like those guys.

Wood Elves are unique in that they get their special super-cities in the forest and can conquer every province and whatever specifically to get their amber for their tree and whatever.

If you like being able to conquer everything I guess you could buy them.

Also you shouldn't ignore the mods for this game- like the mod that gives Kraka Drak (Norscan Dwarfs) special units and a tech tree and the mod which makes them playable for you. Mods which change things up.

But if you're autistic and feel the need to buy all the content for completion then you should wait to see if the DLC goes on sale during Christmastime first.
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>>162425989
This is nu-/twg/ friend. I asked a few oldies from the MP games a few years ago if they still browsed /twg/ and most of them said no mainly from being disillusioned with the series/fanbase and CA's jewery.
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>>162424953

>each faction isn't a reskin with different models with different skins and pictures
>LE SHILLED

It's obviously a passion product for them as well being big warhammer fans and the best thing about it is that they have the sales figures to back them up to SEGA so they can keep releasing free things.

>>162425989

Thank god I'm not dirt poor and the warhammer demographic are used to butt raping prices so no one cares about you anyway.
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>y-you're just poor!
>$18 per race is fair pricing!
>go get a job lmao
is this the best you can do, CA?
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>>162415521
Wow, the lack of reading comprehension is...just...just staggering, I mean, you can clearly type and understanding English but I have dire concerns about your ability to effectively communicate.

Don't play WE like you'd play any other army, play to their strengths, and you'll win. It might be hard-fought and it might take more effort on your part as the player than you're accustomed to, but you'll win.

If you honestly don't think this works, please upload a video of you playing WE to their strengths and losing, significantly, and I might start believing they're less effective than I've experienced.
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>>162425989
I said I didn't want to pay hundreds all at once retard.

>>162426104
>and the best thing about it is that they have the sales figures to back them up to SEGA so they can keep releasing free things.

This honestly. As much as the faggots on /twg/ cry out shill! It's obvious that a shit ton more people are willing to pay the money for more content. The people whining about shills are a pretty damn small minority.

I'm just glad we get a pretty consistent rate of content, since threads prior to Warhammer were pretty slow honestly. While the debates can get pretty retarded, it's nice to see we go through more than one thread a week these days.
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>>162425989
Rome was about 147 dollars and Attila 116 dollars once both had all their DLC

TWW with Wood Elves is like 125 dollars currently and with close to 2 months between each DLC and assuming the claims that the second game is being pushed back to 2018 for some Jewish reason there will be 6-9 more DLCs with most of these being about 8 dollars- it is possible that TK, CD and OK could be 19 dollars but I kind of doubt they could come up with a good minicampaign for Chaos Dwarfs and I'm not even sure if they'd be released in such a timely manner. So TK for 19 dollars and then a bunch of 8 dollar DLCs comes out to 83 dollars more of DLC coming out between now and the second game's theoretical release.

Though I honestly don't understand how adding Skaven to the second game would push the release back a year.
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>enemy units flees across the entire map chased by my giant
>unit is still "active" by the time it reaches the end zone while my giant is exhausted

ebin
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I for one enjoy giving CA my shekels

I hope that they add every possible race including Nippon, Cathay, and Ind just so I can pay them even more for this quality content they're delivering.
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>>162425614
Bretonnia is getting units added based on GW's notes for the 8th edition Bretonnia army book which got scrapped when Age of Sigmar became a thing that was happening.
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>>162426307
The perhaps they are doing more than just adding Skaven, like overhauling mechanics
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>>162425913
>saving a screenshot of someone else's games so you can bitch about how poor you are while pretending you aren't poor

Fuck off lying poorfag
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>>162426363
I unironically agree

This is still cheaper than playing the tabletop game anyway
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>>162411910
sunk cost fallacy desu, just walk away
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Honestly the only DLC that has felt "worth it" so far has been King and the Warlord. Hopefully Bretonnia and Lizardmen will be good.
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>>162392702
>Durthu can get 55% fire resistance in Campaign due to equipment, he can also get almost 200 armor
just Isengard my shit up famalam.
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>>162426307

It's probably the whining, bigger than expected profit from DLC/warhammer and they're getting better with each release. The original LLs are seriously lacking in the unique department so they feel kinda lackluster now.
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>>162426363
>http://www.gram.pl/artykul/2016/12/08/co-na-froncie-wojny-totalnej-nasz-zwiad-w-siedzibie-creative-assembly.shtml

Well going by this it might be that they are actually not able to.

For those who can't read that, basically CA said that they are grateful for the moders who make stuff for the minor factions (like Kislev), because there are limitations with the license.

It is most likely due to GW's policy of not having any representations of something without a model. After the whole chapterhouse mess they got super paranoid, to the point where not even the rulebook artwork can depict things without models.

That might have changed due to the management changes GW has gone through this last year. But I wouldn't be surprised if that was the reason CA aren't able to do anything with them.

I hope that isn't the case, but again, I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>162426307
>Though I honestly don't understand how adding Skaven to the second game would push the release back a year.

Clicked reply to soon, in the article I posted here >>162426625
CA says that they pushed back the release of the second game because of "technological progress", and answering the playerbase's expectations. They specifically mention how the hydra would take at least a year to create; comparing it to Rome I where it would only take someone two days.
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>>162403630
he only uses it for special occasions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Q5JTbJ4fo

>wasting precious giant arrows when unlimited spears works
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holy FUCK I mad

Every god damn motherfucking time I'm about to finish of the Estalians, the beastmen appear.

3 fucking times I've sieged this city with only a few turns until they start starving and they fucking show up

how in the fuck do you play these cunts and deal with the beastmen
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Empire archers when?
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Alright bros, this is the toughest I've been able to get Eternal Guard in my campaign. Pretty sure there's no way to get them over 92 base armor.
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>>162406530
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>>162426776
You're supposed to enjoy all the battles and never have any satisfaction on the campaign map, anon!
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>>162426871

Wait, do Eternal Guard have AP damage as well?
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>>162426913

Yes.
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>>162426887
>Shartor of Clan Martor
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>>162426871
>turn 500 of a wood elf campaign
>finally have the skills required to make your units even remotely viable
>eternal guard now finally have slightly more armor and slightly higher stats than dwarf warriors, a unit available from turn one that costs half as much

Literally cannot make this up.
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>confederate with small elf
>now losing 12 amber
ridiculous you gain so much from being in an alliance and don't gain an equal amount, nevermind the cost of the Great Hall
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>>162427118
There's a reason the game doesn't let you confederate until the Oak is upgraded, anon. You need to be ready for that shit.
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>>162427014

welves need a MA and MD buff all around
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>>162426625
I don't think it will be the big of a issue given the money GW must be seeing from this. Plus they'd have so much unused concept art that they've probably got shelved.

As it is CA have said they'll be adding fully new stuff for Bretonnia and in on of their streams for KatW they more or less confirmed they've been having a good relationship with GW so far with GW not really rejecting any ideas CA have purposed.


At least this is what I'd like to believe because I want to see as much content shoved into this game as possible.
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Wood Elves seem to be in the middle for "factions that are the most fun to play". Will any faction ever top the Vampire Counts/Empire (depending on your opinion) from the top spot?
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>>162426625
I don't think they're that limited. The duke legendary lord guy coming with bretonnia doesn't have a model or rules and only has like a paragraph of lore.
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>>162427457
Dwarfs are the most fun to play.
Vamp/Emp are the least fun to play.
Objective factual opinion.
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>>162427457
Late-game Beastmen hordes are still my favourite. I just love throwing away six, seven, or eight units of disposable gors each and every battle, safe in the knowledge that all I need is 10% of the razing income and a single turn to get them all back.
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>>162427586
>>162427593
You're both wrong. Empire/Vampire Counts are the most fun to play.

The fun list goes like this:
1. Vampire Counts/Empire
2. Crooked Moon
3. Clan Angrund
4. Bloody Hand
5. Both Wood Elf factions
6. Dwarfs
7. Greenskins
8. Beastmen
9. Warriors of Chaos.
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>>162427534
>>162427420
You two make good points, I guess I'm just used to not getting my hopes up so I won't be disappointing. There are a few examples of CA clearly being able to add things that we didn't expect them too, but I just don't know if we can expect the same for entire subfactions yet.

I certainly hope that will be the case, but when GW is involved (good relations or not), you never know. Especially since IP shit is annoying to deal with to begin with.
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>>162427702
>2. Crooked Moon
>3. Clan Angrund
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>>162427840
Gobbos > Stunties
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Why the fuck are Goblin Spears so good? They get more kills most games than my Orc Boyz
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>>162427702
>Dwarfs
>Below both Wood Elf factions.
Durthu is kind of fun, sure, but I had more fun with Chaos than I did with Orion.
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>>162427702
You can't group Beastmen altogether like that, there are three different starting positions.
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>>162427993
Yes I can.
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>>162427895
Because there's a lot of them

Numbers > quality
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>>162427945
Chaos is fun anyway if you know how to play them
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>>162427712
No I do agree and you're probably better off keeping your hopes down. I'm mostly basing this off the fact that we're 1/3 games in and they've added 8/16 of the factions.

So I get the feeling game 2 and 3 will get some (subfaction) padding.

But like you said though, we're dealing with GW here and they're hardly known for good business decisions and could play up over anything. I just hope that the successes convince them to let CA do more and more.
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>>162427895
Goblin spears are good because goblins are good. You put those goblin spears with Skarsnilk or a night goblin warboss, and those spears get even better.
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Hey do 3D portraits still tank FPS?
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why do Durthu and Orion hate each other so much? even if you have good relations all their lines are aggressive as fuck
>>
Hey guys, what's your favorite part of TW:WH thus far?
Personally, I'm a big fan of random herd spawns that raze towns within 1 turn!
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>>162428196
I like the ballerina swordsmen
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>>162428061

But the other 2 games merge into the first one right?

Is that how it'll work?
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>>162428186

Just elves being elves
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>>162428186
Wood Elves and the forest spirits DO NOT get along. Most of the Asrai day involves trying not to get fucking eaten by the forest they call home.
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>>162428196
I like the animations in battle, they look nice
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>>162427151
think I missed one of the armies...
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>>162428358
The Wood Elves are at fault for that. The spirits did nothing wrong.
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>>162428186
Orion doesn't exactly help WE foreign relations and Durthu was one of the treemen that let the elves become wood elves. Due to the elves attracting so many enemies the forest suffers.
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>>162427895
They attack really fast it seems.
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>>162428168
Fuck yes.
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>>162428296
It's how it's supposed to yeah, you can play them on their own or as a expansion to the main game.

The idea is each one will cover new lands that will be added to the base map. At least thats whats 'planned' can't know for sure what we'll get until there's something more official/new said about it.
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>>162428196
I like the sounds of battle and my shiny knights.
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>>162428296
Problem is, they are supposed to also be playable standalone. I think they might just make them include regular game, but you just can't play the factions that are associated with (I'll call it TW:W 1) because the map would just be retarded if you couldn't use the original map.
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>>162427840
Belegars campaign feels like a hazzle where every delay is a mental strain, while Skarsniks campaign feels like a Road Trip to Eight Peaks where every adventure on the way is fun.
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>>162428894

Will they add daemons of chaos?
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>>162428795
Ok, you asked for old screenshots
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>>162428795
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>>162429116
For sure, it's every faction that has a army book, they're running off of 8th edition as their main source for army rosters and such.

Also if the Russian data leak remains true there could even be Chaos Dwarfs as a faction.
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>Enemy lord is "shattered"
>still poppin my niggas by the pound

This guy must really hate greenskins.
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>>162429229

Damn this is gonna be a fucking big TW

When do you think they'll release a non-warhammer TW?
>>
>>162429262
CA have said they have a team working on the next historical one right now but it's also going to be a big project. They've not said anything about release dates yet so It either be a few years off or might not be until they're done with Warhammer.
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>>162429248
ey who doesn't lmao
>>
>>162429463


Whatchya think it'll be?

Maybe a 1900 era europe?
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>>162429610
stone age finland I hope
>>
>>162429610
Med 3.
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>>162429610
>1900
no way, far too advanced
I'm thinking it's gonna be a redo of a pre-Empire game. Probably Medieval or maybe the bit of time just afterwards, but before common gunpowder usage.
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>>162426743
>hydra takes a year to create

HYDRAS ARE THE NEW JABBERSLYTHE
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>>162427712
CA has few limitations because Warhammer Fantasy literally doesn't exist anymore so there are no models for it
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Match my k/d
I got 3 losses to 101 losses
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>>162429229
CHAOS DWARFS WILL BE A FACTION

CA SAID 16 FUCKING FACTIONS

THERE CAN ONLY BE 16 FACTIONS IF CDS ARE INCLUDED
>>
Total War: Warhammer is a good game but not a good Total War game
>>
Tell me friends, does that one ruskie unlocker work with warhammer? I'd rather someone give some of their experience with it before I take the plunge.
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>>162429860
I WANT TO BELIEVE ANON BUT ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS

I mean they've got enough to make a proper faction for sure, and i hope they do just I don't want my hopes crushed.
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Post your current campaign

fuck the Brutii
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>yfw
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>>162429860
daily reminder
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>>162430125
>Darthmod

Does it still crash a lot.
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>>162429845
You only killed 5, though.
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>>162430304
I sunk 2 ships, 101 men
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>>162430302
Probably. I uninstalled it but all the images still get used somehow.
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>>162429663
Maybe that period of time where you needed 12 ranks of men to fire guns.
Just as I typed that I realized it would be stupid as fuck to play in a TW game. Historically it's interesting learning about that and what Maurice of Orange did to improve it but it would be awful. Just send in the melee infantry to cut them up.

Or hell, now that I think about how fine the gunners in Warhammer work with all your armored men and knights, maybe it will work. You can even have the ultimate unit, the Tercio mix of 75% guns and 25% pikes.
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How do these work? It only shows planning (construction bonus) while selecting deploy in a region.
Maybe it has to be embedded into a lord sitting in a region?
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>>162430183
What an awful faction.
The only reason to play it is if you're expanding like crazy and they're centralized in the world.

They might be the worst TW in any game faction except for Poland.
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>>162430546
The reduction in corruption is passive. The hero need be neither deployed nor embedded to reduce corruption.
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>>162429860
inb4 chaos dwarves dropped to make nippon instead.
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>>162430546
That's a passive trait, anon. Simply having the character present in a region gives you the reduction in corruption.
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Man, Khazrak really hates humans.
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>>162430631
>>162430779
gotcha, thanks lads
think i'll sit two forest wizards in both of my main regions then
>>
Greetings european timezone brothers, I bring you
Warhams 20 % off:
DILC9-LVGF6-4TDPP
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>>162430892
>DILC9-LVGF6-4TDPP

Claimed. TY, anon.
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>>162430892
>dupe
thanks anyway, anon
you're a cool dude
>>
>>162392717
Those would be the rangers?
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>>162430810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez90azx4LKk
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>>162430810
Yeah, you really hate humans, man.
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>>162430892
>not paying full price
do you want to see this game die?
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interesting
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new
>>162431379
>>162431379
>>162431379
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>>162431181
Doesn't steam foot the bill for discounts?
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>>162431091
If it makes you feel any better I hate Vampires, Dwarfs and Wood Elves too. I didn't put an end to that campaign until all of Europe was Chaos clay.
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>>162424269
THIS HOLY SHIT
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Is Manfreds sword quest bugged? When killing the greenskin shamans the last one does not count so I can't complete it
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What's your strategy for castle defense in Shogun 2?
I'm quite partial to a layered pike & shot system, keeping pic related on each layer of wall, and moving them back among yari walls to both fire at point blank range and for support from the gunners on the rampart behind them as the enemy gain ground.

What techniques do you use to break enemies on your walls? What can I do to refine what seems to already be a near foolproof strategy?
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