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Patiot edition

>FAQs and General Info
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Last Thread: >>162297924
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http://poal.me/r44psf

Pls respond
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Who was the greatest military mind ever?
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>Attacking Eschen as Dwarfs.
>Balance of Power is almost entirely yellow.
>Mostly crypt ghouls and skellies.
>Auto resolve so I don't have waste time going through a meat grinder.
>Unit of hammerers evaporates and the other one is half dead.
>Meanwhile the slayers in the army see less than 20 losses.
If I weren't swimming in money I might be upset.
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>All units receive vanguard deployment

Why is this allowed?
Every single offensive AND defensive battle is automagically an ambush for in favor.
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>>162333658
Poops. He was like the 2nd or 3rd man, and most recent, to conquer the entire civilized world.
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How do I use the waystalker effectively?
Is he just a buffbot for your archers or can he be used in combat as effective as a branchwraith?
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More like TOOT Kings
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>Gobbo archers
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>>162333692
Vampire are already unloseable in campaign, it hardly changes anything
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>>162333658
Karl franz.

>tfw no historical general can ever match the strategic genius shown at blackfire pass
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Day 201
Warhammer is still shit.
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>>162333658

Reinhard von Lohengramm
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Anime
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>>162333795
Use him to either snipe a large/hero from a distance or in melee 1v1

Hes faster than most units and even though hes one model his ranged damage is insane.
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>162333658
Siegfried Kircheis
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>>162333867
If you think about it, it's true.

Would have Napoopan done against lizardman magic?

Or what would Hannibal have done against Gobbos?

What could the military mind of the WRE ever have sent against Athel loren?
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>Medieval 2 had visual upgrades for almost every unit for every level of armor upgrade

>10 years later can't even have an army without rusty swords
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>>162334005
m-muh reskinned soldiers!
warhammer has true faction variety*
*only available through DLC
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>>162334003
>napoopan

apply artillerie à pied

>hannibal

apply qasatim 'al pilim

>wre

apply triarii/legionarii/cohors/foederati
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>>162334005
Just wait like 20 years. Maybe then videogames will look like what they show us in teaser trailers.
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>>162334143
>apply artillerie à pied
High magic beats Artillery

gobbos are too sneaky for Hannibal

WRE has no idea how to deal with forest dragons

next
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>>162334003
Fuck you, now I gotta fap to that
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and the waywatchers still fucking lose, even with this spell cast

what the fuck
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>>162334191
link
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>>162334190
>high magic

apply ney (avoid sunken roads)

>gobbos

apply numidian mercenaries (use them as quickly as possible before they double, triple, and quadruple cross both you and rome at the same time in a game of five dimensional chess)

>forest dragons

apply arcani (2hp)

your move, fantasy shitter
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>>162334191
>gay shit
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OFFICIAL /TWG/ TOTAL WAR GAMES POWER RANKINGS* (As of December 10 2016) (Stand alone titles only) (All patches and mods taken into consideration)

1. Medieval 1
2. Attila
3. Shogun 2 FotS
4. Medieval 2 & Kingdoms
5. Shogun 2
6. Rome 1 and BI
7. Napoleon
8. Rome 2
9. Empire
10. Rome Alexander
11. Warhammer

*All rankings are final, any post of power rankings that follow this official list should be deemed unofficial and not representative of /twg/ and its community
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>>162334392
It's not gay
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>>162334348
Half of europe is destroyed as Lizardmen shfit the continent around

Gobbos get the Numidians to sextuple cross Hannibal

Forest dragons eat the Arcani
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>>162334394
Good taste.
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>>162334392
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>sire, we've taken the town, what should we do now?
>BRING ME VIGILES AND BRING ME VELITES
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>>162334285

You are playing on Normal, right?
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>>162334310
https://exhentai.org/g/836483/8ef404247e/
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>>162334439
>half of europe is destroyed

precisely the kind of atmosphere in which a true Understander© Of™ Strategy® such as napoopan thrives

>numidian sextuple cross

i hire yet more numidians, a plan that cannot possibly fail

>eat the arcani

but they never actually existed so your gay dragon starves to death and dies before even doing anything
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>>162334515
At least it's not some magically superior army then anything you got
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>>162334392
>implying its gay
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>>162334557
> tfw inserting as the trap
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>>162334645
>he doesn't do this by default

i don't think this is the general for you, anon. please go.
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>>162334528
yes
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>>162334557
oi, I get a sad panda face
wat do?
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>>162334285
Try hagbane tips.
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I'm in two minds about whether to buy Warhams. I don't care for fantasy, but I love total war.
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>>162334748
Then don't buy it
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>>162334735
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>>162334681
>implying I said I didn't do it by default
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>>162334628
*exasperated sigh*
*puts paws together and meditates*
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>>162334748
>I don't care for fantasy, but I love total war.
probably not for you then honestly
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>>162334515
Hey, all they gotta do is tie up your infantry and fuck your day with javelins.
In theory, they're enough to wipe out an army with ammo to spare.
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If our Daimyo is to become Shogun. Military ruler of all Japan.
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>>162334808
>no cav
I'm gonna hammer those femboi velite asses
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>>162334748
It's a shit strategy game. Most of the people in this thread only like it because they're Warhammer refugees.
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>>162334748
Has less depth then attila and attila has that medieval mod for aoc/soon for grand campaign and AE which was supposed to be out by September 30th...
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>>162334879
You sound upset?
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>>162334836
N-not if I put them in a big square and have them fire at will with skirmish off!
I might lose one, sure. Just don't bring more than 1 cav, cheater.
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>>162334746
they did worse
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>>162333649
nice anon, it certainly is the faction that has a bit of everything and plays like you'd expect it to, make sure to not overexpand too quickly or your provinces will all rebel
ALSO, people are actually calling wood elf weak, more evidence to the contrary, branchwraith was lvl 3, durthu level 5.

dryads are amazing against the empire holy shit, such flanking action
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>>162334916
Not upset at all, just stating the facts.
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>>162334919
>not having 25% of your force being cav
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>>162334916
well I mean he's right, you can tell a lot of people here weren't part of /twg/ before Warhammer was announced
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I found this /twg/
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>>162334772
come on now.
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>>162334963
Too expensive. I only like 4 cav at the most, INCLUDING the general.
2 is preferred. I like missiles and spears.
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>>162335003
Historically accurate
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>>162335003
>that spear head
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>>162335003
Really wish I hadn't
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>>162335131
ancient homo thuggin'
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>>162335131
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>>162335129
It clearly says Greek

>>162335131
>>162335003
Geeze it's bad enough that he's doing the Carthaginians as black but why do they have to look like tribal spearchucker niggers?
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>>162335023
General, 4 cav, 2 missle cav.
Unless it is S2 avatar multiplayer, in which case go combat general + 2 GG meme team.
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>>162335214
It's not my fault I'm retarded
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>>162335214
Because obviously all blacks fought as Zulu style half naked spearchuckers.
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>>162335131
It only gets worse
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>>162334003
Is there anything in the WHFB world that could even possibly EVEN SCRATCH an abrams? Let alone disable it. I'm talking about a highly mobile, extremely well armed and armoured war machine, equipped with a, computer aided 120mm gun capable of firing a wide variety of highly accurate ammunition suited for various situations with thermal and NV optics, pintle mounted & coaxial .308 machine guns for point defense and a REMOTELY OPERATED .50 cal for the commander to desecrate the corpses of his enemies, a multifueled turbine engine that can go up to 75km/hr, IMPENETRABLE DEPLETED URANIUM ARMOR, reactive armor which FUCKING EXPLODES AWAY projectiles, blasting vents, spall liners, and protected against chemical, biological and nuclear threats, making the crew virtually invincible, and well supplied by a logistics company. Seriously, is there even anything that can TOUCH this monster?
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>>162335361
they're not even standing on the same level come the fuck on
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>>162335361
Honestly, this looks like some parody image made by /pol/.
Happy Merchant vs Kangz 'n' shit

Just shop the star on the Mesopotamian dude's shield into a Star of David and change the yellow color to blue.
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>>162335252
Actually in M2 I never hire mailed knights.
I just roll out with 3 or 4 general's body guards.
300 flourines for one unit. Fuck off. That's 3 more spear militia to file into my spear militia rush. Gotta get Antioch by turn 12 or so. It needs huge walls for balista towers when Mongols come.
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>>162335361
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>>162335461
STOP
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G O B L I N S
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http://dabrandonsphere.deviantart.com/gallery/

What the FUCK
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>>162335461
KEEP GOING
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>>162335461
>>162335361
>>162335131
>>162335003
Wew
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>>162335461
An Ottoman killing black (apparently) female Latin soldiers.
That's the most progressive thing I've ever heard.
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>>162335436
>Happy Merchant vs Kangz 'n' shit
My first though seeing it's nose.
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>>162335461
I dunno the stories he adds convince me that it might be serious
>>162335436
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>>162335506
oh my god
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good god
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>>162335453
M2 is garbage, why would anyone ever be talking about it.
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>>162335584

>Col. Herman Goldman
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>>162335542
AAAA
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>>162335590
Third age total war/divide and conquer and stainless steel.
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>>162335506
>fantasy artist
well that's for fucking sure
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>>162335610
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>>162335610
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>>162335610
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>>162335506
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>>162335646
>>162335610
>>162335605
>>162335545
>>162335542
>>162335461
HOLD ME LADS
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>>162335694
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>>162335678
Oy vey
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>>162335737
>asian_rabbi
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>>162335737
Recently on DeviantArt I saw some propaganda for the "alt-right" movement (think of it as modern-day, resurrected fascism and white supremacist ideology) that featured "cute" anime/manga female characters, as if that would somehow make their ideology more palatable. Normally I don't like dabbling into explicit politics like this, but I thought to myself, "What if someone drew an anime character to promote Black rather than White Power?"

I don't endorse any form of racial separatism or nationalism, even if the Black Panthers had a very legitimate grip with the institutionalized white supremacy of their day. But you gotta admit, once you see anime girls used to propagandize alt-right white supremacist ideology, you can't help but feel there could be some diversity here
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>>162334941
people that are calling elves week are plaiyng with elves not trees anon
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We uncovered something we shouldnt of lads
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>>162335737
Choy chey.
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>>162333795
As said he hits quite hard but he also has that amazing net ability with negative missile resistance. Throw that on an annoying unit and you can focus fire it down in seconds.
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>>162335824
>he just used anime to shipost against /pol/
pretty funny.
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>>162335694
>Pepe just discovered he is really an African bullfrog and so wishes to reconnect with his African roots.

>In the original meme, Pepe had rather thick clown-like lips, but I redesigned them to something more human-like since I didn't want him to look like an old minstrel character. But basically I'm screwing around with a meme that has somehow grown very popular with white supremacists on the Internet lately.
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>>162335610
Romans were olive skinned though
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>>162335824
These Phoenician merchants are bartering for settlement rights with a native community on the northwest African coast sometime during the 800s BC. If the deal works out, they get to set up a nearby colony that will become Carthage itself.

There is of course a legend that Carthage was founded by a Phoenician princess named Elissa or Dido, who cut up strips of a cowhide and laid them down to encircle the initial space of colonization. But I chose to disregard that legend and settled for a more historically probable scenario of Phoenician merchants acquiring trade and maybe land rights from the indigenous African community. But then, we may never know for sure what happened back then.

The Africans in this scene would probably be descended from the earliest speakers of the Amazigh (or "Berber") languages, who would have colonized northernmost Africa from the drying Sahara. Although today's Berber-speakers have a mixture of African and Mediterranean ancestry in varying proportions depending on ethnic group, I believe the very first speakers of Berber languages would have looked more African. That's because Berber is a branch of the Afrasan/Afroasiatic phylum, which would have originated in Northeast Africa along the Sudanese to Somali coastline. Of course, as the languages spread northward towards the Gibraltar Strait, they would have assimilated people of Mediterranean background even before coming into contact with the Phoenicians, Romans, Arabs, etc. But that is to happen over the centuries after this scene.
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Conquered the Sassanids and claimed the east as the ERE in Attila, I have ten armies and plenty of gold.

Should I conquer my loser cousins in the west or help them retake their territories?
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>>162335936
I dunno, that Vorenus has a Gallic look about him.
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>>162335848
I can only imagine how North Africans feel when they see this shit
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An interesting side effect of these mods that turn other settlements in to 10-slot ones is that it also upgrades the small town in the "new" province in to a city, both functionally and visually on the map. Pretty neat.
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>>162335965
>that baby arm on the spearman
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>>162335986
Seriously, does this artist know that berbers exist?
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>>162335980
If they casted real Romans, Vorenus would be darker.
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>>162335968
ONE ROME
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>>162335968
If he's willing to become some sort of vassal otherwise destroy him
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This piece is meant to express my anger and sadness over how people of African descent continue to be treated, not only in the US but across the world. What's being removed from her head is an Egyptian-style crown like that Nefertiti wore.

I drew this one a couple of months back and tried submitting it to the American Writers' Journal. They told me they would feature it in their Aptril 2016 issue, but apparently on March 26th they closed down due to a lack of perceived interest. So I have chosen to post it here instead.
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>>162336078
>he tried to get this in a writer's journal
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>>162335378
Lev 2 fireball
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this reminds me of when some anon was autism'ing about African Knights or some shit and another anon image searched his picture and google literally led to a site that was titled "African Fantasy"

good times
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This Kushite warrior lady has left her native country behind for an adventurous, heroic life of disrupting slave trades and liberating the oppressed. For example, here she's stalking a slave caravan from Egypt that's hauling Arab men, women, and children across the desert. You could say she's a more legit, dedicated example of a social justice warrior than the vast majority of tumblr bloggers.

This concept started as a response to the cliche of Africans being enslaved in caravans run by Arabs, Europeans, or Africans doing business with the former two. It was my feeling that this trope, even if inspired by certain historical slave trades, had patronizing implications since it portrayed Africans as poor benighted primitives reduced to a subservient role in conventional historical narratives. I wanted to depict a reverse scenario with Africans enslaving other races, but since I didn't want to make the African side look all villainous either, I added to the scene an African character who would sympathize with the slaves and fight on their behalf. It was also inspired by one of Robert E. Howard's Solomon Kane stories wherein the English protagonist attacks an Arab slave caravan dealing in Africans.

I think I quite like the idea behind my heroine here. I might do a story about her sometime.
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>>162335506
>hungry eyes

My sides
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>>162335646
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>>162336212
>You could say she's a more legit, dedicated example of a social justice warrior than the vast majority of tumblr bloggers.
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>>162334979
We'll it obviously opened a brand new setting for total war. Of course it's going to bring in its own fans. I see nothing wrong with it.
As a matter of fact it brought in some much needed money and support for CA apprentely.
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Im glad I could have you all share the experience when I discovered this
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>>162336212
HOL UP
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>>162336272
shiaaaaaaaaaaaat
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>>162336272
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>>162336272
HOLY SHIT DIDN'T SEE THAT. THIS JUST MAKES THINGS WORSE
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Well lads, any idea how I can add text to custom edicts?
Thinking of using the edict system to create a tax system like in the previous total wars.
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>>162335513
He's a fucking white male?
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>>162336212
Lose all the prissy shit and this sounds like Ferro from the First Law trilogy, who was actually pretty cool.
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>>162336272
>he might be here right now
>he might see us looking through his stuff
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>>162336272
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>rebels take my settlement for 1(!) turn
>raze every single building in it
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>162336439
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>>162336439
Nah, he sounds quite sensitive. I dont think he would feel at ease on 4chan.
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Hahahaha.
What a thing to happen.
Rear charge the enemy, send them flying, now they're surrounding my troops after getting back up.
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>>162336519
4chan is filled with sensitive retards though.
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>>162336552
woooooooow dude
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>>162336369
I have not played Warhammer yet, how is tax system different from Med2 or Rome 1?
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>>162336212
is it just me or is there a resemblance?
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>>162336518
Christ this just just keeps getting worse. Let's keep digging
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>>162336614
stare into the abyss anon...
maybe we should let sleeping autists lie
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will I get Durthu himself to join me?
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>>162336579
taxes are currently an on or off button.

Anyone know how to insert local strings?
Or are you just going to shitpost about some retard's deviantart?
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>This chart is based off the so-called "Table of Nations" found in a number of ancient Egyptian tombs, which contrast the native Egyptians from neighboring foreign nations. In these murals the Egyptians would conventionally portray themselves as dark mahogany- or cocoa-brown, the Kushites to their south as literally jet-black (rather like how South Sudanese today are perceived), the Libyan Berbers to their northwest as fairer-skinned, and the "Asiatic" Middle Easterners as a light tawny-brown. Basically I wanted to translate these murals into my own art style.
I know which thing he is rreferencng and they aren't that fucking dark
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OK neets sucks, but the AI is dominating the fucking old world in the grand campaing.
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>>162336751
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I just got cancer!
Thanks guys
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>>162336272

10/10 plot twist
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/twg/ - Total War General.
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>>162336902
You're not allowed to die yet
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>>162336923
History is total war relevant
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>Wood Elves will be the next DLC in October!
>It is now November, wood elves soon!
>Wood Elves are the unquestionable best faction!
>I can't wait for my comfy NEET campaign!
>Good luck outranging the Wood Elves!
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>>162336923
HOL UP
are you trying to say BLACK egyptians aren't history?!?!?
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>>162337016
Total War has nothing to do with history.
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>>162337092
Haha epic anon.
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>>162337052

S-SHUT UP

WOOD ELFS HAVE THE BEST ARCHERS IN THE OLD WORLD!
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>>162335936
Probably, but then again the Julii are described as blonde and either with grey (Augustus) or blue eyes (Nero).
>>162335980
Not by the time of Hadrian though. At this point there were all types of people with Roman citizenship.
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>>162337138
>Using bows
>When crossbows exist
>Using crossbows
>When guns exist
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>>162337158
>grey eyes
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>>162337052
It has been very comfy desu, its everything I hoped

Glade guard dps is sort of shitty, but what can you expect from NEETs? not trying to tryhard over here
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>>162335513
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>>162337138
>>>/v/360231908
I've seen this webm posted with this filename three or four times tonight. What are you trying to do?
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>>162337205
A quick google search
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>>162337092
Arrows have tracers these days.
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>>162337245
Dunno mang look like a shitty green to me
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>>162337198
>Using trebuchet
>When cannons exist
>Using feudalism
>When superior types of government exist

ye warhammer is dumb
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>wood elves dont get shield of civilization
dang, I wanted to trick the dwarf and human goyim into giving me amber
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So the way to play WE is to conquer Durthu/Orion in the first 10 turns so you can get something resembling an economy
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>>162337241

Post webms? What a weird question
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>>162337052

>this triggers the WElves
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>>162337267
they run at you and try to ally with you all the time. Just get the research done.
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>>162336845
>ancient egyptian the same color as modern egyptians
>people still depict them as so black they're purple

Sadness.
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>>162337263
Well mate thats probably what they meant by grey
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>>162337267
Wood Elves are as close to True Neutral as WHFB gets. They fight Chaos, yes, but purely to preserve the status quo.
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Well, this looks fine right guys?
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>>162336272
>he's among us
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Attila the Hun, the Scourge of God, holds his Sword of Mars in readiness for his next bloody rampage against the fragmented Roman Empire.

The tiger-skin cape was an afterthought that came up during the coloring process. It was originally going to be a bear-skin, but I switched to a tiger since it looked less drab, not to mention fitting for a warlord of Asian descent.

The title is quoted from a trailer for the upcoming computer game Attila: Total War.
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>>162337308
I've probably been up too long. I might just be paranoid.
No funny business Anon, I hope you're not trying to force a meme.
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>this thread
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>>162337403
I think it looks neat
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It actually works just fine.

You guys think I should publish this?
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>>162337440
I have not yet played Atilla, can he get Honoria's pussy in game?
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>>162337264
>Fuedalism
>Dumb

peasant detected
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>>162337267
#Notyourshield
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>>162337440
In 216 BC, African elephants and cavalry under the command of Hannibal Barca march across the Italian countryside, planning to capture Carthage's old enemy Rome itself.

I enjoyed making up an exotic color scheme for the African horses, but in general this was exhausting to draw and color since it had so much going on in it. At least the result was satisfying in the end.
> that image title
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>>162337440
is that a fucking katana?
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>>162336272
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>>162337512
>Trading taxes for growth.
I could dig it. What else did you add/change?
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>>162335851
REEE PROUD BLACK WOMAN NEED NO (white) MAN
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>>162337403
>-25% tax rate
>For 30 growth

niggah what
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>>162337547
They look like a mix of horses, donkeys and zebras.
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>>162337547
I shouldn't be as mad as I am but boy I sure am mad.
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>>162337547
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>>162337547
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>>162337561
this and tier 4 and tier 5 empire capitals give you a 5% and 10% boost to research rates so that you can power through tech in the lategame.
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>>162337535

Unfortunately no

He does get the Sword of Mars tho
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>>162337597
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quagga

Although these were never anywhere near North Africa. I'm assuming he also mocked up some kind of inter-continental African animal trade in the year 400BC.
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>>162337440

wew lad this is one hell of a thread
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>>162337547
Well no wonder Carthage's lost, they wear no armour at all!
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>>162337595
Values are WIP.
Low taxes mean higher growth.
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>>162337547

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

STOP THIS JESUS
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Anyone wants to play some (dare I say it?), Warhammer MP?
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>>162337626
Maybe make the tax trade off for growth less extreme. Worth uploading/polishing.
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>>162337440
Well, probably his most accurate depiction so far.
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>>162337764
eh, I was going for one or the other thing
any better ballpark?
I am planning on changing the vanilla values as well so that it actually acts as specialization.
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>>162337789
except for the FUCKING KATANA
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>>162336436
Reeeeee the fucking ending to that trilogy!!
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this thread is making me very upset

please stop
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Why are there so many whining about the wood elfs im having a blast
all you have to do is get good
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>>162337625
>Cleopatra
>black
So I guess several generations of incest among Greeks turns you black eventually.
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>>162337789

>katana and tiger skin
>accurate
>for the huns

nigga come on
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>>162337852

They lose 1v1 to Quarrellers
They lose 1v1 to Goblin Archers

So much for the go-to archery faction
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>>162337841
paying taxes makes me upset too.
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>>162337747
Im having too much fun to though anon
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>>162337797
I'm no expert, but 10% for 30 growth? 15%?
I usually play Dwarfs so I'm not entirely sure what good growth value for the Empire is, but 1/4 of the province's income for 30 growth seems like a bit much.
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>Wood Elf siege tower literally is a fucking tree.
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>wildriders with shields don't count for the quest progress
>I have to recruit subpar units
typical CA
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>>162337547
>>162337625
>this entire thread so far
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>>162337907
well the plan is that you lose short term money to buiild up your territory fast. Depends exactly on how fast. The empire has the problem of inaccessible core units because of required buildings.
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>>162337887
>They lose 1v1 to Quarrellers
>fighting heavy armored units head on
like i said get good
>They lose 1v1 to Goblin Archers
thats a meme
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>>162337789
>comes from "the east"
>give him an honest to god katana and tiger skin cloak

Still more accurate than his Carthaginians.
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>>162337908
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This could have been useful 130 turns ago
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>>162337547
this cultural appropriation is triggering me
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>>162337993
>>162337871
>not knowing about the Amur Tiger
>implying the Sword of Mars wouldn't be the deadliest sword in human history
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>>162337824
What happens?

Haven't read the series.
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>>162338028

>LOTRO

rip such a good game
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This started off as a simple portrait of a random Middle Eastern dude, but then I added some scrolls under his arm to give him a bit more character. He probably works as a scholar or professor at some Islamic university (or madrassa), back when those were among the finest educational institutions in the world.
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>>162337824
I fucking loved it. Bayaz playing 11th dimensional chess the entire time...
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>>162333523
So who is the advisor, I know in the chaos campaign he gets eaten (out hue hue) by a LoC, but what about the other campaigns
>>162333673
Say thanks to legend for those changes
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>>162333692
Because he's motherfucking Vlad Von carstein that makes slyvania a vampire province and not just an irrelevant empire province
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I always thought the Green Lantern from DC Comics was supposed to be a black dude, and was surprised to learn he started out as white like most of their other superheroes. For my take on the character, I wanted to emphasize an African heritage for the character through his getup. I am not really a superhero geek---in fact I'm damn tired of all the superhero movies that have been coming out lately---but I was on an artistic roll today.
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>>162337984
Well, it'd be helpful in new/poor provinces for sure, since there's less income to lose. And already rich provinces are usually built up as well meaning they need less growth to begin with.
I don't know for sure. In my opinion it's worth uploading. To be honest, I haven't been able to find a mod that trades taxes for growth.
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>>162338184
It's still around.

>>162337908
What are their rams?
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>This DeviantArt poster is a Total War fan
>mfw he starts doing Warhammer fan art
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Are these values better?
>low taxes : -25 tax +50 growth
>med taxes: +25 growth -2 PO
>high taxes: +25% tax -5 PO
>Very high taxes 50% tax increase -40 growth -10 PO
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>>162338260
>but I was on an artistic roll today.

Change one letter in that statement and you'd be 100% correct.
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>>162338191
>Muslim scholar
>ins't black
Dropped
>>162338260
Who cares about comic books desu.
Although from the thumbnail it looked like he was wearing a basketball getup.
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>>162338331
lol
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>>162338281
do you think this is a good example?
>>162338327
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Concept art for Helen of Troy, the leading lady in an adaptation of the Trojan War myth that I have just started writing. In my retelling Helen is the headstrong daughter of King Memnon of Kush (aka Nubia or Sudan), renown both for her beauty and her talent at archery. The Trojan prince Paris falls heads over heel for her and marries her, but he will have to protect her from the lusty Greeks who send a thousand ships after her.
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>>162337991
justify this
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>>162338374
>lasts 20 seconds
wow its nothing
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>>162338369

>The_face_that_launched_a_thousand_ships

Yeah, in the opposite direction
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You guys are all as autistic as this deviant art faggot. This has nothing to do with total war. Even fantasy vs his is more relevant. This garbage would be perfect for /pol/.
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>>162338369
>Helen from Kush
>Paris marries her
>Greeks come in the thousands to steal her
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>>162338325
He's got lizardmen
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>>162337052
Based dawi engineering.
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>>162338439
It's not that bad a drawing.
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>>162338426
so how exactly do you ''get good''?
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>>162337547
>Even the horses are black
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>>162338483
Now that's just rule63 of Cabrakan.
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>>162338528
Anon those aren't horses
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>>162338484
what the fuck are those
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>>162338327
>>162338363
Looks pretty alright as far as I can tell. I'm not sure how much 50 growth is for the Empire, but I'd consider it a favorable trade for 25% fewer taxes. The other tiers of taxes also look fine, but you should consider adding a taxing level that doesn't affect growth or income or the like (assuming that it doesn't work like commandments in that they need to be activated.)
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>>162338570
they are just extra commandments. you can select any one of the vanilla ones whenever you want.
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Are the wild riders the best welf unit? They keep getting +100 kills in every battles
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This is my interpretation (or redesign) of the American icon represented by the Statue of Liberty in New York. I wanted to give this version of the character a West African racial and cultural flavor in honor of the African-American population, whose longstanding struggle for liberation has helped make our country a freer and more equitable society. The shield she’s carrying draws on a Central African Azande design for inspiration
> making her black makes it "freer"
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Reminder that wood elves are the worst faction in the game
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>>162338528
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>>162337908
if CA was more creative it would be a treeman that walks up and then kneels infront of the walls so that others can climb over his back
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>>162338484
>dwarf actually kill a bunch of Elves in BoFA extended edition
What the fuck.
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>>162338439
More like Helen of wooosh, now.
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>>162338327
Not that anon but I think that the tax increase is a bit too much, +15% for high and +30% for .very high. Other than that looks good.
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>>162338595
Fund it, my dude. Or ask around a bit more. I'm not that familiar with the Empire's economy. Looks good to me.
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>>162338642
Why? I would rather they not fucking waste their resources on stupid cosmetics and use it on something of actual worth.
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Is forced march stance the worst thing to happen to the series?
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>>162338498
If have a t shirt on would you stand in a line and fight a knight in armor head on?
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Quick sketch of a shrine to the goddess Tanit as it might have looked in ancient Carthage. Unfortunately reliable information on ancient Carthaginian architecture proved surprisingly hard to come by, especially since the Romans utterly destroyed the original city before rebuilding it in their own style. Therefore a lot had to be left to my imagination. Many historical computer games such as Age of Empires and Rome: Total War have given the Carthaginians more or less Romanesque or Middle Eastern architecture, but for my rendition I chose a more West African flavor. While it is true that Carthage started out as a Phoenician colony, I'm sure they might have been open to local African influences which became prominent as the civilization evolved. The little dashes on most of the pillars are supposed to represent sticks as seen on some Malian buildings today


Alright im done
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>>162338839
yes
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>>162338839

Yes
Not only it made campaigns shorter

It enables a lot of benny hilling
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Well time to take the war to them.
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>>162338839
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=719772633
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>>162338191
to be fair for a very long time in both the middle east and europe, the main source of education were monasteries and mosques, unless you are some wealthy cunt that can afford tutors
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>>162335968
one faith, one god, one emperor
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Opinions?
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>>162338995
Why is everything so dark in your game? I don't remember the campaign map looking overcast the last time I played TW:W.
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>>162338884
>While it is true that Carthage started out as a Phoenician colony, I'm sure they might have been open to local African influences which became prominent as the civilization evolved
yeah ok kid sure
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>>162339045
Is Third Age still crash central?
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>>162338995

Should have brought a shirt
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>>162338605
I love them
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>dont know if i want to play as elves in the GC after finishing orion in mini or going peepeepoo as morghur and shitting out chaos spawn everywhere
fuck
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>>162339072
I don't get them but probably, for axe throwers and ents/balrog.
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Do you guys keep the starting Waystalker when playing Wood Elves? I feel like the 250 upkeep would be better used on two units.
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>>162339076
>deer don't change their coat
lazy devs
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>>162338839

The way it is implemented it is shit. yes

I get their idea, but the penalties for using it are nowhere near enough to actually not make you use it just for travel instead of it being an emergency thing.

First of all, forced march shouldn't allow you to replenish forces.
Second, forced march should actually give attrition to your troops (dieing of fatigue, which actually happened in very long forced marches)
Third, forced march should have reduced range in enemy territory (since it is non-familiar terrain)
Fourth, forced march should apply a debuff besides the already fatigued troop debuff, the troops attacked on forced march should have reduced leadership.

They implemented forced march to be a "oh fuck, my city is about to be attacked 300 miles away" button, but gave no actual reason to not use it everytime on peace time and on friendly territory.
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>>162339019
Does the AI change strategy due to the mod changes, or do the same movements but then end up in the open because they cant force march again?
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>>162339184
Maybe it shouldn't be a stance at all. Maybe it should just be an extension of your range of movement. You can go this far with a normal march, or thiiiiiiis far via a forced march, and the debuffs apply based on how far you march?
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>>162338884
such autism shouldnt be allowed
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>>162336050
>>162336052
>>162339040
Rightio then, time to culturally enlighten the barbarian west.
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>>162339184
>They implemented forced march to be a "oh fuck, my city is about to be attacked 300 miles away" button, but gave no actual reason to not use it everytime on peace time and on friendly territory.
If you debuff it that much then what is the point of having a mostly dead army arrive back at your city?
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>>162339259

This is a solution aswell
But the penalties should still be there
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>>162338882
if I was a dwarf quarreler and an elf was shooting armour piecing arrrows would I stand in a line and fight them head on?
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Ballistae or onagers?
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>>162339304

Because it is an ultimate emergency measure that was not even used that much in real life aswell?
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>>162339245
AI knows it can't meme march away and it adapts to that, yeah.
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>>162339386
>an ultimate emergency measure that was not even used that much in real life aswell
It was used all the damn time. Forced marches and getting armies where they need to be on time was half the glory of the ancient military world.
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>>162339153
he can pretty effectively kill stuff like monsters
the arrow also penetrates units unlike the glade lord's arrows so he gets a bunch of kills with every shot
I had a waystalker in my VH mini campaign who had something like 1240 missile damage (3,something reload time, he shot so fast that when an arrow was about to land he shot another one. Raped forest dragons and lords on flying monsters)
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Is the latest version of Call of Warhammer stable? or are they still working on that patch?
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The maze, Dolores
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>>162339045
DaC is mandatory. I know it sounds weird to have to mod a mod but it really does improve it.
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>>162339447

>source
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>>162339513
i dont get it
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>>162339316
>armour piecing arrrows
is this a new meme?
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>>162339583
t. Marathon
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>>162337267
The Dwarfs allied with me nonetheless and gave me 33 amber, because of those delicious +diplomacy techs.
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>>162339605

...and marathon wasn't an emergency battle?
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>>162339668
Tell me which battle isn't an emergency, which city-state leader said
>nah, no need to hurry guys you can stop the barbarians sometime next week when the ashes of my city have cooled down
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>>162339513
explain
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>>162339513
Doesn't look like anything to me.
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>>162339513
Not sure if im dumb or this pic make no sence
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>>162339595
what the fuck are you on about?
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>>162339724

Come back when you have evidence rather than just simple narrative
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Swag daddy
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>>162339793

>Good Range
>They have the same exact range as Quarrellers

Why even bother putting that there as a plus
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>>162339813
I'm glad they got buffed.
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>>162339813
>floppy hats
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>after 80 turns the beastmen finally spawn
>oh one of their armies spawned right next to my capital region
>2 turns later that small beastman 6/20 army starts raiding
>in my territory
>next to my capital town
>that's garrisoned by my main 20/20 top tier elite army

It's like they're doing it on fucking purpose.
>Ey goy buy our dlc to see more beastmen, or you could always just accept being fucked by goats in your capitol if you don't want to erradicate them in 1 turn :^)
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>>162339534
Agreed, I wish that there were a little bit more optional scripts but it's a good sub mod.
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>>162339592
>>162339732
>>162339736
>>162339750

not that fag, but yesterday someone was uploading upside down screens taken from a camera

and westworld

pretty straightforward
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>>162339840
Aren't there a bunch of elf archers that are decent at melee and don't have Decent Melee Combatant or whatever it's called.
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>>162333523
Is there a good, balanced mod that buffs the wood elves a little bit yet?

I don't want anything big, just something that makes eternal guard stop losing to spearmen and makes the elite units actually useful
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>>162339975
Still don't get it

Why is that one part circled

What does things being upside down have to do with Westworld.
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Hey /twg/, how does an averlander tell a difference between his woman and his cattle?
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>>162339184

If you Force March one turn, you should not be able to Force March next turn, and you should take a movement debuff on the next turn. Basically Force March is just that; a Forced March, and troops are going to be exhausted after that. You can't just Force March them across the entire world.
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>>162339793
>what the fuck are you on about?
(Low damage) armour piecing arrrows
HURRR why isnt my little wooden arrow going through platemale its says its armour piecing!
Why do you think crossbows and guns were invented and made the bow obsolete retard
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>>162339595
On the TT Asrai Longbows had the Armor Piercing rule to represent Elven proficiency at hitting weak spots. Made them every bit as potent as State Troop Handgunners, something that's lacking in game.
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>>162340083

>applying realism to a world with magic
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I don't get it, /twg/.

Why do Wood Elves have normal sized units?

Why do Wood Elves have shit stats?

Why aren't they a highly skilled but few in numbers elite force like they've always been on the TT and in fluff?
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>>162340008
because the motif in the circled area recall the one in the maze and it's only visible because that guy took a photo of his monitor

autistic irony i guess
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>>162338995
>a female lord leading a mostly female subpar army
you are not one of those waifufaggots are you
>>
>improved AI mod still not updated
>regular CA shitter AI is braindead easy
>have to play on the dumb difficulties where it cheats harder than a 12 year old kid hosting a minecraft server to get any challenge
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>>162340056
>>162340117
Oh are we playing the table top?
No we are playing total war buddies
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>>162340135
they have slightly smaller ones though
100 for big infantry units instead of 120
80 for wardancers

I kinda do wish they had like 80 for 120 and 60 for 80 but were much stronger since they're kinda garbage now
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>>162340260
I wish they'd go straight up 60 instead of 120

It doesn't feel very elfy to field these huge stacks of shitter fodder that fights about as well as a conscript peasant
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>>162339045
its quite radious tier, because they decided that even "factions" mentioned in 2-3 lines should be represented which means that almost all units are 100% made up "totally lore friendly"

>>162339184
forced march debuff should apply for one turn after leaving the forced march stance
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Gotta go fast
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>>162340293
wouldn't you just get overwhelmed with other factions' elite units with 80-120 guys a unit that would just swarm over the elves

but yeah I wish the elves were better
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>>162338716
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=815581682
uploaded.
Pls sub and favorite.
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>>162340396
Give them sick nasty stats, I think it'd be interesting.

Managing with lower numbers, but individually superior fighters is how the elves have rolled for all of Warhammer Fantasy.
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>>162340260
This, make them over powered but in such small numbers they're manageable.

I want to see the level one archers flicking off arrows like a machine gun. not being destroyed by a unit of goblin archers because they're able to throw more arrows out.
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Which Total War has the best soundtrack? Everything past Shogun 2 with the exception of the throat singing in Attila has just been so forgettable.
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>>162340314
>that almost all units are 100% made up "totally lore friendly"
Which is fine since Tolkien barely give any descriptions of military units, and one in the mod are somewhat either original source material friendly or fanfiction ( like MERP ) friendly.
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>>162340314
better than representing them with shitty rebels.
>Implying dorwinion wasn't an important place between dale and rhun
>implying the dunlanders don't deserve their own faction
>implying that the dunedain should be a fully equipped faction.
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>>162340412
Not gonna play your gay cheat mod :^)
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>>162340135
Because elves are garbage. It's that simple.
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>>162340083
the crossbow was never better than the longbow though you idiot
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>>162340542
>one in the mod
*then ones in the sub mod
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What's up with Wood Elves and their tons of heroes? I am playing the Empire campaign and it seems that elves have 3x more heroes than myself, making assassinations quite annoying.

Btw, what mods are working for Warhammer? After the match, both my games and mods shat themselves.
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>>162340594
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>>162340534
I've always liked Rome's sound track the most. it's overall had the most tracks I can sit down and enjoy on their own.
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>>162340542
Rome Total War (really liked that one pipe instrument solo and combat music) and Kingdom Teutonic campaign. I don't remember others.
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man this was a shameful as fuck display, I wasted all my magic reserves on the manticore, which sucks ass, and didn't have any for the buffs
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>>162340374
>he thinks that's fast

lmao
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>>162340641
>the crossbow was never better than the longbow though you idiot
Training all your life to build strength to shoot a longbow
Or throwing a crossbow to a child during a siege to shoot attackers
>Really makes you think
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>>162335378
>and well supplied by a logistics company
There's Waldo.
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>>162341304
yeah, it makes me think you're a fucking idiot

>oh you actually need to train to use the weapon so that must mean it's shit
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>>162341430
Considering England lost in the end he obviously has a point.
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>>162339895

Rapegoats are fun as fuck to play as though. Would be even more fun if they had a hybrid horde/city mechanic like Welfs have. Losing a developed horde is a tremendous setback and takes several dozens of turns to get back.
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>>162341430
it's shit when you are using large conscripted armies you twat.
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>>162339895
I find beastmen die before they do anything to me. That or got really piss poor units that I can easily deal with
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>>162340412

Now we just need to figure out adding settlements. Middenland, Talabecland and Stirland has space to be filled.
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>>162341474
not due to longbows though

>>162341486
and it's good when you're using large experienced armies you twat.
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>>162341716
>and it's good when you're using large experienced armies you twat.
>experienced armies
>FEUDALISM
Oh anon....
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>>162341672
sadly you can't do that. On the other hand, you can turn each region into a 10 slot place.
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muh fuggin amber muthafuga
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>>162341805
I may have fell for memes but wasn't there a kings edict in England that ordered men of certain age to train longbow usage? Not that longbows were better them crossbows, just asking.
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>>162341815
>sadly you can't do that.

B-but Shogun 2 ;_;
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>>162341881
Get out of my Empire please.
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>>162341881
Make edit, now.
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>enable my mods after they get updated for the patch
>apparently something makes it so they ai can still meme march after razing
>playing as durthu and in the spawn of like 4 turns of not checking my oak i end up getting an 20 stack of bestigors and other elite fucking beastman units sieging it
im pretty pissed allright
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>>162342050
Yes they did they made all peasants train for it. And training was basically building strength to draw the bow back iirc around 40 - 50kg just to draw the bow back
Thats alot of weight to pull, let alone on a peasant diet
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>>162335378
RIP abrams
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So is it actually possible to play as elfs without being genocidal assholes?
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>>162341716
>not due to longbows though

I'm not those guys but most of the english longbowmen got slaughtered during a suprise charge by the french knights and had no way to replenish them
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whats the point of the unicorn the stacks go down across the board, both the fighting stats and the speed is lower
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Man I forgot how much of a fucking meme Medieval 2 diplomacy is.
I've never even seen a single French settlement, army or agent and suddenly they're at war with me and sieging 2 settlements.
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A single Halberd unit can beat Treekin and Durthu if supported with a fire mage.

Empire had 9471 funds left
Elfs had 8458 funds left

Tree units confirmed trash.
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Elves prior to release:
>so much ranged damge
>gonna out range artillery sick dude
>have fun watching your troops melt

Elves after release:
>low ammo
>low damage
>same range as everyone else
>get owned by dwarf ranged infantry
>empire pistoliers can charge them to death

So...this...is the power of NEET Elves.
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>>162342616
yep.

You can get amber with alliances.
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>>162342718
B-B-BUT ELFS ARENT BAD
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>>162342718
>using the hardest counters possible against tree units
>lol tree units are bad

why are people like you this stupid
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>>162342638

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Patay
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>>162342718
>A specialised anti-large, anti armour unit supported by a hard counter
>Beats the thing it counters
Oh wow, who saw that coming
>>
Chances for Attila and its DLC to go on sale this Christmas?
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>>162342757
Knights of blazing sun are hard counter.

650 cost unit beating a 2800 LL, they fair pretty damn well without the spells.
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>playing skarsdick
>army of night gobbos and skulkers
>utterly destroy wood elves

lmao, razed all of athel loren in under 40 turns, while also still killing dwarfs. nice faction elf faggots
>>
>>
What's better?

>Being unable to cross another faction's border withhout permission

Or

>Being able to but with diplomatic penalties, and if you surprise attack from within a border you lose trustworthiness (current way)

?
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>>162342818
Incredibly high.
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When are they going to fix the retarded tunneling mechanic? It's 0 (zero) Zero (zilch) effort.

Make it so mememen and worst elves can only use their jump to cut through forest.

Dwarves and and Orcs can tunnel under mountains.

Only Empire and VC get forced march. No idea about Chaos, maybe they get some mechanic where they can teleport through the rifts created by the ruins they leave?
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>>162339045
Autistic garbage full of atrocious-looking units. Last time I tried it they had started making their own voice acted lines as well. Some of the most cringeworthy shit I've ever heard in my life, honestly if someone recorded that shit and posted it on here that would be great. The elves are especially bad.
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>>162342737
apart from
>gonna out range artillery

the other statements should be correct, not our fault CA are fucking mongs
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Holy shit I found a spot with 100% ambush chance
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aka best elf when?
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>>162342847

Current way by a mile. The diplomacy is fucking trash and the AI behaves so erratically towards the player some times. It took Chaos razing Middenheim to the ground before they gave me border access and prior to that our relations were above 70.
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>>162342886
I don remember that, most of the lines are either from original game or from LotR games/movies.
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>>162342771
>This ambush was discovered by scouts when a stag ran into the concealed longbowmen and they let out an excited shout.

wow..
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>>162339513
i laughed
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>>162342920

Woops : /\ )
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>playing Durthu on GC
>at war with elf faction
>they siege and raze the oak of ages

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

MAKE THE AI LESS FUCKING RETARDED CA
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>>162343051
This is rape
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>>162339513

That show started strong but was total shit by the end.
>>
when heir makes a faction overview video I swear he can't fucking read

he just said waystalkers can buff other archers with an armour piercing bonus?
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>>162342954
Its possible they just dropped that idea entirely cause the voices they had were just fine and the new ones they recorded were awful, I haven't really checked up with the mod anymore cause I think its utter trash.
>>
There are so many ways for things to fuck up playing Empire on legendary that it's just not worth it
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>>162342771
>All this due to a fucking stag.
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>>162339045

Fan-fiction: The Mod

Only slightly less faithful to it's source material than the Legend of Zelda mod.
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>>162343051

Ahh, Norsca is beautiful this time of the year, wait...what's that?
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>>162343261

wut
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>>162343079
>ai wins the game against the player
>REEEEEEEEEE MAKE THE AI LESS RETARDED

pathetic.
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>>162343079
Yeah that happened to me also, elves really are shit in every way. They said their reasoning which totally isn't laziness, is that elves would just burn it down because muh civil war is more important than the oak. If the oak of ages isn't that important to elves then you shouldn't get a lose screen for losing it.
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>>162342718
Wow what a surprise anon thanks for testing that
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>>162342737
don't bully NEET ;-;
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>>162343209
dude shut the fuck up lotr itself is the origianl fan fiction anyway you fucking disresonant
>>
They will buff them, right?
By the time I'm done with the other factions?

They can't be that retarded.
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>>162342718

If it was a human controling Durthu you wouldn't stand a fucking chance

The AI doesn't use magic correctly

If it spammed Flock of Doom and buffed the treekin you would get utterly fucked

You're not proving anything other than that you're a massive fucking retard.
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micro is hard desu
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>>162343495
It will probably be the chaos situation
>balancing patch comes out
>empire changes
>vampire nerf
>ork changes
>empire changes
>dwarf changes
>chaos buffs
>elf buffs
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deepwood scouts and waywaters need snipe...
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Who's the second LL for Bretonnia going to be?
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>>162343836
Louen Leoncoeur
Fay Enchantress
Alberic of Bordeleux
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G O B B O S
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>>162343836

There's gonna be 3

King Leoun, the Fay Enchantress and duke Alberic of Bordeleaux
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>>162343836
>second
hahahahah
>>
>>162343836
Fey Enchantress, the third one is a blank slate where the only things known about him is that he's getting on a bit in age and has extremely high standards for his knights
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>>162343530
An empire captain on a griffon absolutely destroys Durthu in about 5 charges, monster lords are pretty easy to counter.
>>
Something stirs...
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>>162343921

>he doesn't know
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>>162343972
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh reddit
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>>162344019
QUEEN OF THE INTERWEBS.
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>>162343972
Where've you got that from? If you're just fishing, then well done for remembering to do the filename, most people forget.
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How do you guys develop an economy when playing wood elves? The outposts are useless and the main-base can only produce so much.
>>
Is there a way to test units out with no lords?
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>>162344105

You take the rest of the elven encampments and get wine buildings in all of them, including the thing that boosts its profits by 20% in nearby regions. It stacks and gives you crazy amounts of money.

Or just sack and raze shit.
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>>162344134
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>>162344105
You kinda have to play like a horde. Razing gives a lot of dosh.
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>be wood elf
>take walled bretonnian castle
>get attacked
>no walls
???????????
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>>162343351
Those are a really nice touch. You can see them scattered around the campaign map for the Season of Revelation. They're trying to emulate the chalk hill figures scattered around the UK.
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>>162343612

I don't get WHY the fuck they did this.
Surely, if you can't fucking balance, it's better to be OP than shit.

I'm properly pissed, mainly cause I got baited by the shitty -10% and preordered.
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>>162344197
Forest neets can't into beautiful stonework.
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>>162334394
1. Rome 1 w/ EB
2. Warhammer as it is now, bought on sale
3. Shogun 2
4. Medieval 2 w/ Kingdoms Stainless Steel
5. Medieval 1

Honorable Mention
Attila Turn Ends Late Game kill it
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>>162344105
Early game you need to pretend you're Beastmen, razing shit and raking in dosh. Once you capture the entirety of Athel Loren you need to build the wine building AND the wine barrel building in every province so each individual province gets triple income.
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>>162344225
But why?
>>
HOW THE FUCK DO I GET MY AMBER BACK TO POSITIVE AFTER MY ALLY GOT BUTTFUCKED AND EVERYONE AROUND ME IS CAMPING IN THEIR CASTLES WITH FULL STACKS
I DONT EVEN HAVE ANY AMBER COSTING UNITS
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>>162344389
Because that's what peasants and Iron Age retards used to do in their spare time. Makes sense they'd be scattered around Bretonnia and Norsca.
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>>162334979
hyper aggressive no humans no elves durthu campaign is great. Turn the whole world into a huge forest. Its almost as horrifying as chaos.
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>>162344462
You need to operate on a surplus at all times because the AI can and will fuck you out of most of your amber.

Every quest battle you complete gives you three free, permanent amber that can never be removed. You want to grab both LLs ASAP and bumrush every quest battle.
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>>162344462
Use your agents to fuck up their walls and go on the attack

Don't let your allies get fucked next time if you are going to rely on their amber.
>>
Is there any reason to get Eternal guards?
>>
Goblins are for _____
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Is it possible to mod in a new faction still?
I'd like to create a new Chaos campaign for Sarthoreal called Big Birb's Big Adventure
It'll be just the Beastmen campaign mechanics but with the Chaos roster and buildings
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>>162335584
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>>162344590
Anti large and anti cav

You know; the thing they are made for
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>>162344590

Keeping a few around for anti-large is good if you're Durthu and can't get Wardancers/Wildwood Rangers
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>play welfs
>they're a more fun horde faction that rapegoats

Why are WElfs a better horde faction? You get a main base to upgrade and plan your attacks, and you get a fuckton more money by razing shit than Beastmen ever get.
Also, if you lose a horde as goats you basically just lost half your empire, and getting a horde properly upgraded against takes fucking ages. It's much quicker to develop a city and safer too.
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>>162344590
Eternal Guard with shields have good melee defence and good leadership(unshielded ones have this too though).
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@162334394
That is some really shit bait, you dont even deserve a (you).
>>
>>162344660
>Why did a faction they know will sell better get more attention than a faction they put in as a boxing bag for Empire/Brets/Welfs
Hmm...
>>
>>162344660
I find beastmen to be a pretty fun horde faction, compared to chaos at least.


>>162344689
It's just an old(slightly changed) pasta.
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>>162344660
>Also, if you lose a horde as goats you basically just lost half your empire

That's the fucking point.
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>>162344609
destroying wood elves
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>>162344105
>wine and boosting building in each province
>building that allows you to trade with other factions
>outposts with ports
>norsca has a fuckton of settlements with ports
>just trade with bretonian kingdoms
>swim in dosh
>>
Why do people keep saying Gobbo archers beat wood elf archers?

I have just tested every ranged unit against glade guard and only empire crossbowmen and Dwarf range win.
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>>162344924
Memes
>>
Am I the only one who, no matter the game, always bring 4 units of melee/shock cavalry of the heaviest kind possible?
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>>162344924
>he needed 19 stacks of glade guards to beat one puny group of gobbo archers
Poor elves, man.
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>>162342717
>if i can't see them that means they can't see me
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>>162344924
It's a meme
>>
>watching people playing welfs

>skirmish mode on
>not using their magic
>not using their buffs
>not microing units
>spending anti large v anti infantry
>sending anti infantry v monsters
>using spaghetti lines
>not using forests
>not using elf units because they picked angry red tree lord
>not using treemen because they picked faggot furry bait elf king

I cant handle how bad people are at TW
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>>162344924
People aren't going to be happy until eternal guard beat chosen 1v1 and waywatchers murder entire armies with a single volley, apparently
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>>162344992
No, shock cav is good and everyone uses it.
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>>162341085
>that much melee as suck elves

You lost before you began, anon.
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>>162345129
I mean, specifically 4. Not 2, not 3, not 5, not 10

4 and only 4. No matter if I'm Napoleon or Attila
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>>162341085
>bringing that much anti large
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>>162345102
To be fair, WE is a completely different race from anything released in TW thus far and require a completely different strategy that is objectively several times more difficult than the standard hammer and anvil style play most other races do.

It's like taking someone used to playing warcraft 3 and forcing them to participate in a brood war tournament
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>>162344590
Cheap anti-cav. Don't use Elf units thinking they're supposed to sit there and get beaten up; your Glade Lords have a shit ton of skills that increase movement speed for a reason. Eternal Guard are supposed to be constantly moving, redirecting, and catching enemy cavalry and flankers since they're so much faster than other infantry.
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>>162345176
It's a good ratio. Allows you to have two units on each flank to support each other.
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>>162341085
No Cavalry whatsoever
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>>162344992
Not in Empire or Poopan, else yes.
>>
Proud daughter of Athen Loren! >:3
>>
>>162345176
>>162345282

I'd roll with 2 heavy shock cav and 2 strong melee cav, they synergize much better. Especially in Attila/Rome 2.
>>
>>162341085
>Welf infantry

What did you think was going to happen?
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>>162345290
>he doesn't use katana cav/great guard
>>
>>162344590
They're your best bet at holding down an enemy unit, also your best bet for killing cav without spending a stupid amount of cash.
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>>162344831

It's a shitty excuse. They could have unique province near Middenheim or somewhere else that acts like a sort of base. And region capitals could be made into a unique building that acts like WElf's outposts.

Beastmen are boring as fuck compared to WElfs.
>>
>>162345308
Their voices are super cute
>>
>>162345429
So you want every faction to play the same way?
>>
>wood elves suck
>they're literally shit
>keep coming back
>don't enjoy other races anymore
>feels too passive and easy

End my life
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Who are some good Wood Elf, anti infantry early game?
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>>162345429
what is /twg/s problem with hordes, never saw much hatred towards the huns in Attila. Makes perfect sense for Beastmen and WoC to be horde factions.
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>>162345632
Dryads or regular Wardancers with swords
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>>162345632
Glade guard
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>>162345204
This is part of the reason why I'm not taking calls for balance changes seriously
It's been a couple of days, wood elves will get better as people learn how to use them more effectively
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>>162345739
For sure, but I still think they need a buff, just not enough of a buff to make boring hammer and anvil memes viable.
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>>162345632
Dryads.
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>>162345632

Fucking Dryads, don't use Eternal Guard against infantry.

Wardancers if you're playing Orion.

Make sure to utilize your archers properly, don't fire into the back of your own units.
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>>162345543

No I don't you donut, I want Beastmen to be fun, and running around with only two armies that takes ages to upgrade isn't fun. As WElfs you have far more to do, like managing cities, resources, diplomacy.

Now that WElfs have shown CA are willing add actual unique mechanics to a faction, rapegoats deserve it too. Fuck, WoC especially.
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>>162345102
>not using forests
>actually using forests
do you like 90% of your arrows stuck in trees?

>>162345138
if I had more range, I'd fail even harder, I am not very good at micro and I am playing on legendary so I can't pause or slowdown
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>>162345675
/twg/ is filled with casuals, haven't you noticed? Its become pretty pronounced with the welf release.

People want to turtle in a unbeatable city and wait 100 turns before they roll out with an unbeatable army and steamroll everything.

Which is fine if you like doing that, but they want every faction to be like that which would make the game boring as fuck.
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>>162345739
I disagree. I know how to use them but their units still feel underwhelming especially their infantry.
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>>162345780
>>162345739

A few specific units need buffs.

Like, Hawk riders really aren't any good at the thing they're supposed to be use for, I'd honestly rather bring Wild Riders most of the time.

Waywatchers could definitely do with a BIT more damage or access to magical arrows, they don't feel like much of an upgrade from Glade Guard.
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>>162345830
>not using forests
Are you saying WOOD elves suck in forests?
or is that wood there for some other more.... sexual reason?
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>>162345830

>legendary

No wonder you lost so much. The AI gets insane stat bonuses. You can't switch to Normal either because it gets locked.

Pick VH and battle difficulty to Normal. It's a far better enjoyable experience.
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>>162345632
All their archers, dryads and wardancers

And dont forget to use your god damn magic, its literally some of the best in the game.

>>162345830
>do you like 90% of your arrows stuck in trees?
Welfs get buffs in trees for a fucking reason twat

Also, learn some god damn positioning.
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>>162345675
They're boring. Pain in the ass to move about as you always need to have 25% left for encamp.

Have a hard early game then become a death-ball without any real vulnerabilities.
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>>162345905

>/twg/ is filled with casuals, haven't you noticed?

desu I think most of them are /v/ermin who are just here for the release, a lot of them seem to have already left again
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What makes Attila run so shitty?
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Waywatcher buffs when?
>same range as other archers
>no ammo
>low fire rate
>meh damage
>60 models in unit
>fucking 1200 good boy points
Name one reason why anyone should use them instead of glade guard with ap arrows?
>inb4 "they can shoot while running"
>enemy cav or artillery doesn't give a fuck about that shit
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>>162345675

Huns in Attila was the most fun campaign i've had in the series

I felt like a serious juggernaut in the campaign map, butchering everyone
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Anything like this or TWW?
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>>162346040
they need fucking snipe
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Got no replies, pls respond even if it's a retarded question, I need to be sure.

If game gets updated and I wait for my mods to get updated as well, my saves should work just like before and I can continue with the same pre-patch saves right?
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>>162345675

They're dull and have no fun unique mechanics. Moving city sounds fun in theory but when put to practice by CA it's boring. Beastmen and WoC even more so since you don't get to manage anything outside of your armies.

>>162346238

Pre-welf saves won't work.
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>>162346201
What does snipe do?
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>Lose amber when confederating with Elven allies.

really, CA?
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>>162346306
Remain hidden while firing
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Gonna start my second Orion playthrough, got any fun RP rules/restrictions?
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>>162346325
You lose their trade agreement amber income, and then you have to pay for their upkeep as well
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>>162346325

They used Amber to upgrade their cities, so yes, when you confederate them you lose Amber.

Which is why you burn them down and then build them back up again. You get like 50-60k from a city.
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well this is cool
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>>162346302

What if a balance patch or something releases?

They couldn't possibly make saves break with each update and force people to start over again with each patch, what the fuck.
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What mods should I get for WH?

Any essential ones?
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>>162346557
>Cataph's Chaos Steeds Resized
>Black, Black Orcs
>Chaos Cosmetics 1.2
>Full helmets Longbeards
>Unique Empire States (Lore Friendly)

are mine
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Wood elves would be better if they could more easily disengage from close combat
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>>162346618

>Unique Empire States (Lore Friendly)

Isn't that the one with fully plated Greatswords?
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>>162346546

Balance patches shouldn't break anything, no, but major releases like this should.

Or, better yet, just try loading that save.
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>>162346737
I can't remember, I mainly use it for the states getting unique colours
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>>162346302
The chaos campaign is different at least, it's no more boring than Dwarfs or Greenskins and there are some exciting do or die moments you don't get with other factions.

Weirdly people complained about regional occupation forcing you into a railroad campaign and then the two new factions crooked moon and angrund, both with a major objective, are the favourites. Maybe if Beastmen had a mission to destroy a city like middenheim and got a capital or Chaos had to remove Altdorf and othe objectives people would prefer it.
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>>162346557

The ones that change the AI.

I swear, 90% of all issues in this game is caused by the AI. They should have made factions have unique scripts or behaviours or something.
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>>162346763

Ok I see.
I haven't started playing yet, just making sure it's safe and it won't break my save in like two days when they try to fix their shit, because I really believe they are that retarded.
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>>162346938
Chaos campaign had problems if you went to norsca, instead of going straight to empire factions and dorfs. It would just turn into a grind of piss easy fights to unite the north.
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OBJECTIVE TRUTH

If you find wood elves difficult it's because you're bad at micro, and you have no-one but yourself to blame. Woodelves aren't your babbymode dwarves where you can spam infantry and artillery. Get good, shitters.

t, knower
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>>162346912

>and then the two new factions crooked moon and angrund, both with a major objective, are the favourites

They're both very unique though with their gimmicks, Crooked Moon especially. What's that, a Greenskin campaign where you are limited to cheap gobbos only? Fuck yes.
My main gripe with Beastmen is that their campaign is so boring. They have no fun objectives or gimmicks, no cool mechanics to use or explore. If they had more unique stuff like Wood Elves they would be in a much better place.
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I hope you guys are not using only the lore of life

Shadow lore has a spammable fate of byurna pre-nerf that only costs 5 magic and slows down units
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>>162347118
how do you micro a waywatcher unit against to beat quarrelers?
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>>162347118
Wood Elves are still awful because while you can make them work with heavy micro, you're getting the same results as any other faction using minimal micro. I don't think wood elves should be playable using dumb dwarf meme strats, but I do think they're too weak right now

t. understander of strategy
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>>162346912
I like the suggestion someone came up with of chaos being able to set up chaos shrines in razed cities, possibly with a specialization like the wood elf outposts. The military recruitment would still be focused on the hordes, but being able to set up a replenishment area away from Norsca, and an area to recruit lords from, sounds like it would help some of the problems the chaos campaign currently has.
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>>162344924
>playing on normal
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>>162347118
It's true that Wood Elves are harder to use than most factions but it's also true that their units are objectively inferior to other factions.
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If you find WE too hard just use the "proper combat" mod and cataph's magic mod, it balances them a bit. You'll still have to manage heavily though, but at least you'll get satisfying results now
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i found them fairly balanced

they need a buff regarding speed and some immunity to speed debuff
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>>162347228
To be fair, even their basic archers are pretty good considering they can fire 360 degrees and while on the move

My issue is that they feel to inaccurate, aswell as low damage.

Also
>stronger in woods
when half your arrows disappear
ffs CA
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>>162347118
The wood elves would be viable if their archers were just fast shoot-on-the-move quarrelers though with no magic arrow gimmicks (can't beelive we thought they'd get to 'choose' ammunition what a joke). Even waywatchers are worse than just a larger unit of glade guard, they fire like 12 shots it's a joke.
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>>162347417
Their basic archers can't 360 fire


That's the elite variants that cost 200 and 300 gold per turn
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>>162334285
Wanted to ask. What range unit beats quarrelers? Hand Gunners?
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>>162347118

Even if you micro them very well you still get sub-par results. You can get the same or even better results with less micro with other factions

Id be fine if your micro actually got you ridiculously good results but thats not the case, your micro inst properly rewarded
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>>162347449

Probably Thunderers since they're both armoured and use armour piercing bullets
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>>162347228
They have some nice buffs as campaign drags on, but I really feel that they should have a bit more ammo from the start (like 5 more volleys). You can kite all you want but once you are out of arrows its game over early on.
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>>162339513

Fuck GOBLINS

Now its time to GENTLEMEN WELCOME TO ESTALIA
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The problem with Welfs is that you pay amber for units that are basically not worth the amber.

The units you get are simply the normal units you would get if you chose the other faction, then what's the point of paying the all important amber for it? They are not some kind of super version of said units.
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>>162347118
Battles are way to quick in wh theres hardly time to micro welfs even when you do you will loose half your army
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>Start playing Empire
>Other Empire factions have access to mortars, outriders, and handgunners
>When I take their capital and cities they don't even have the buildings to make these units
What the fuck. Also at what turn should I have access to handgunners and knights? I'm at 30ish turns and I'm almost done with my armoury. Also are Pistoleers just fucking awful?
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Where next?

I really don't want to go the cookie cutter route and capture bretonnia

>carcassone
I had it but then Poo poo pee pee came and razed it, then perfidious estalia came and took it, I had to squash some beastmen who roamed inside athel loren
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>>162346482
Lots of neat details like that in this dlc.
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>>162347813
>he tries to justify the 20 bucks he spent for this piece of thrash
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>>162347790
> Also are Pistoleers just fucking awful?

They might need some experience and upgrades to be good, but they can cause serious damage when shooting at the back of enemy units fighting.

They are good at harrasing slow units that will keep trying to catch up to them.

They are also good at dealing with enemy skirmish cav, arty, running down fleeing units and supporting cav fights.


>>162348031
Paid 13
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>>162348031
>20 bucks
Where the fuck do you even buy it for that much? I paid 15 on steam
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>>162348031

I have noticed that "people" that use the gold lel face are always the worst assholes.

Why is that?
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>>162348031

>He needs to justify for paying anything under 100

I remember being underage too
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>>162338260
Nigga what

John was literally a backup replacement for Guy who was a replacement for Hal

John is American military

The fuck
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Which factions require the most/least micromanagement on the battlefield?
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>>162348031
You can thank good goys like me that Wamham is constantly receiving new stuff.
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>>162348251
>Least
Dorfs

>Most
Welfs
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>>162348251

Most: Neet elves
Least: Dorfs.
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>>162346040
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>>162342930
Bestelves are Aenarion wife & son elves, not Finubar the Faggot elves
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>>162348251
Norsca needs a decent amount of micro because their units are weak in long fights. They kinda need their chariots.

Elves are also up there.
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>>162348251
Dorfs require very little
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>>162348312
>>162348332
>>162348408

>tfw the most "micro" dorfs require is clicking on runesmith abilities
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>>162348348

Why is the lord of the hunt taking advice from this wrinkled old humie?
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>>162348348
How fast do you kill big monster units with that damage and attack speed?
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>>162348439
Hey, sometimes you have to tell your ranged units to fire on a different unit.
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>>162348348

>1287 missle damage

How.
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>see people using sphaghetti lines as welves on youtube
Why the fuck would you do that? Why the fuck would you sphaghetti so much at all in warhammer? Cav charges are ridiculously good in this game.
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>>162348251

Most: Elves
Least: That one faction that can literally stay put and win battles
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How come Warhammer TW is so well optimized while Attila still runs like it was coded by an intern?
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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OY IT'S ANOTHER WAR OF THE BEARD!
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>>162348348
>45 models in unit
Mods?
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>>162348583

MUH 6 GORILLION ELVES
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>>162348439
And>>162348515
make sure your Slayers hit the large units.
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>>162348408
Chaos and beastmen don't need much unless you use Norscans.
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>>162348562

They are LITERALLY the least popular Warhammer faction fuck off
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>>162348205
He probably russian or other sub human
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>>162348515

Works well against the AI.

Doesn't work so well in multiplayer.
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Wew lads, guess I'm done for the night
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>>162348583

Those are some prime shitty borders
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Can 2 people with different DLCs play together ?

Like I have woodelves and a firend has King and the Warlord ?
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>>162344609
Flying
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>>162348785
Lore of shadows magic?
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>>162348856
Yes
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>>162348856
Yes.
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>>162348348
>1287 missle damage
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>>162348785
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>>162348348

>1300 missile damage

You can snipe a lord in 40 seconds

amazing
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>>162342185
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>>162348550
I'm probably the only one but, Attila runs better for me
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>>162348629
What the fuck? It's called "Large" unit sizes in graphics settings.

>>162348510
>>162348974
That's a hero unit.
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>>162344660
Yep. The hybrid horde Welf model is F U N

They could give Beastmen a homebase in Drakwald Forest, Chaos Warriors one in the Realm of Chaos.
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>>162349214
Why would you play on something other than maximum?
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>>162349145
Tell me your secrets. Do you use AMD or Nvidia? What CPU?
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What's the difference between unit sizes?
Just cosmetic or does it affect something else?

I want to play with ultra.
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>>162349214
Yes. Everyone knows that it's a hero. They're asking how you got it to 1287 missile damage. Maxed out army skills on the lord and maxed out combat skills on the hero only bring it to ~800 normally.
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Did they ramp up the beastmen spawn rates?
Or are they surviving for longer?
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>>162349284
If you have a weak CPU, but a good GPU.
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>>162349284
Not him but I usually play (at least Warhammer) on custom. Though it's mainly too keep the noise of my fan down which does really help cause it still loud as hell sometimes.
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The cleansing of Norsca continues, regardless of the meddling of the dwarfs.
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does the chaos invasion give you amber?
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>>162345050
you dip
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>>162349550
What? No
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>>162349550

>does the faction with no settlements give you something you can only get from settlements

Really
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>>162347682
This.
>hmm shall I get a great eagle with my one amber, or a forest dragon
>decisions, decisions
>>
>tfw playing with small unit sizes for the true tabletop experience
>>
>>162349745
>>162349779
i suddenly have 12 from my 2 so im affraid to spend it at the same time chaos spawned
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Make wood elves faster, more accurate, longer range and being able to easily disengage from combat. Their buffs still rely on micromanaging but make them more competitive
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>>162349895
this makes me really confused

>say elves are a micro faction
>have the same range as all the other units

what's the fucking point, there's nothing to micro
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>>162349814

Did you make any alliances?
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>>162349814
Do you have settlements close to chaos forces? Are you allied with the factions near chaos invasion? It's not rocket science.
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>>162349394
There are a lot more scripted things that can cause a Beastmen horde to get spawned
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>>162348562
Lizardmen and Dark Elfs.
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>>162350008
They expect you to kite enemy infantry with your 360 archers. Yes, they are asking you to rely on stupidity of other players to not turtle up or use cav against welves. Stupid as fuck.
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>>162349109
Needs some polish but good job anon.
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>>162349895
>>162350008

Welf archers being able to fire while moving in 360 degrees is already pretty amazing. Maybe just give them a bit more punch
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>>162349307
i3 and gtx 750

Can run Attila on 60fps with med/high graphic settings

Run Warhammer on 30-50fps with med/high
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>>162350274
Does your GPU make a lot of sound when playing either game?
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>>162349895
>remove all collision from projectiles allowing them to actually move and fire from within forests without penalties (that thing they're supposed to fucking do)
>glade guard/scouts/riders 160, waywatchers 180, glade lords/waystalkers 200 range
>give everything ~25% more AP damage to represent their TT stats
>slightly improve the lord movement speed skills to make them a more viable option

Entire roster is now fixed. Ranged units are stronger, melee units move faster. Everything else was fine to begin with.
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>>162350465
I dont think so
The only thing that make sound is my hard drive but that because he dying ;-;
>>
I like the idea of smaller unit sizes, but better stats. Make them feel more 'elfy'
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>>162350574

I know that feel
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>>162350475
The Waystalker arrows already do fucking ridiculous maneuvers, including turning at right angles, to hit what they're aiming at. I'd have no problem with simply removing collision as well.
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>>162343369

Nice job missing the point shitbird.

Welfs shouldn't be raising the Oak of Ages.
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finally genociding the norscans and planting trees

>>162350271
desu in singleplayer, the regular non-360 archers seem actually better, since the starfire shafts give them better offensive capabilities
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Does anyone else have a problem with WH fps dropping or stopping for 1, 2 seconds?

It happens every few minutes and this stuttering is fucking annoying.
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Jesus Christ Great Eagles suck. How can a monstrous creature lose in melee agaisnt fucking ungor raiders? Am I missing something here? Great Eagles more like Less Parakeets.
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So what will the Legendary Lords be for the following races

Tomb Kings: Settra/????
Skaven: ?????
High Elves: ?????
Dark Elves: ????
>>
Literally fucking impossible to win
>>
>>162351178
Check your RAM & VRAM usage
If your game runs out of VRAM to use, it'll start using RAM and transferring data across bus (slowly)
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>>162351278
Impossible? Nay, merely improbable.
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>>162351178
In addition to what the other dude said it's possible that you're close to the temperature that causes throttling, and you're exceeding it every few minutes.
>>
>>162351260
Nagash
>>
has anyone got the chart or picture that shows which units need amber for both LL?
>>
>>162350728
CA have already said that the AI will shit a brick if there's an exception to razing it. We're supposed to just roleplay it as them burning it down in an attempt to plant a new one.
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>>162351260
>Naggy boy
>tankuol
>fuck if I know
>Malekith and his mommy
>>
>>162351260
Easy
>TKs get Settra
>RRats get Queek
>HEs get Tyrion
>DEs get Malekith
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>>162351260

Who was that Dark elf that had to track down a demon across the wastes to get his soul back twice?
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>>162351682
Malus Darkblade
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>>162351278
>slayers with so many kills
Couldn'y you just delete them with so many waywatchers?
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>>162351735
This name still physically pains me
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>>162351682
>>162351735
There is no fucking way that Edge elfs dont get The Witch King as their LL. HEs could get either Tyrion or Teclis but my money is on Tyrion.
>>
Guys, does movement range buff from the temple of kurnous building stack if you build more than one of them?
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>>162349109
Standardise the font and get a better image and its fine.
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>>162351567
>>162351427
>Tomb Kings
>Nagash
Stop.
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>>162350938

>4 wildwood rangers

I disagree with your composition
But you must be attaining some degree of success so...
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>>162351278
Grombrindal must have a fucking perma-boner from being able to kill elves again.
>>
Why are ther no PoC in warhammer?
Fucking racisits I dont want to play as some white fuckboy
>>
>>162351735

Why does his name sound like he buys replica katanas at the mall?
>>
>>162351971
>t. Manlet the Small
Afraid of getting boned by superior necromancer, boyo?
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And I think to myself
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>>162351178

If you have a AMD FX CPU you may want to check if it's using Overdrive or not.
>>
>>162352002
eh, I normally have many more archers but this is a more aggro melee stack
>>
>>162352247

FUCK GOBLINS
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>>162351860
Reminds me of that gay guy in the ASOIF novels, Darkstar McShitbed or whatever
>>
>All those retarded edgy names
>All those horrible edgy spiky design armour and weapon
Cant wait for Dark elfs
>>
>watching welf online fights
>basically no one uses archers, all about treemonsters, eternal guard, and wardancers

uhh
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WOOD ELVES ARE ___
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>>162352149

He's a Dork Elf. They are the literal "psssh nothing personell kid" in the franchise.
>>
>>162352390
MELEE SPECIALISTS
>>
>>162352386
I have noticed it against vampire counts. People usually don't bring ranged units against them now. They can just spawn skeletons everywhere.
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>>162352390
the best faction atm
>>
>>162352390
Underwhelming.
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Reminder to check any wood elf traders for traps before you seal the deal
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>>162352390

Goblin Archers target pratice
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Shit on welves as you may
But some units have great morale, ie. wardancers

I can send them to almost all kind of clusterfuckers and they will likely survive
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>>162352669
True. I like their monstrous stuff and Wild Riders are fantastic.
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>>162349523
Why the fug are the dorfs at war with you?

Also post what a BARKED norsca looks like.
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I'm about to play as that one Dorf Clan that has to pay 50% more upkeep for it's troops as my first faction wish me luck.
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>>162352669
>all kind of clusterfuckers and they will likely survive
Sup
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>>162351260
Starting wise?
Tomb Kings: Settra, Khalida, Arkhan
High Elves: Tyrion, Teclis, maybe Alarielle
Dark Elves: Malekith, Morathi
Skaven: Either the rep for each great clan, or if it's just two, Thanquol and Queek
>>
is this correct?

Units that need amber when playing Orion:
>Treekin
>Treeman
>Hawk riders
>Great eagle
>Forest dragon

Units that need amber when playing Durthu:
>Wardancers (both types)
>Wildwood rangers
>Waywatchers
>Glade riders (both types)
>Sisters of the thorn
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>>162352669

>survive with only 5% of the unit remaining

WOW AMAZING
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>>162352935

They could have declared war. You get a -30 relation because of Aversion, and as you get bigger you get a Empire penalty. Unless you research that skill that boosts relation with dorfs then they could very well declare war.
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>>162352935

It's the second world war of the beard lad, dunno for some reason they attacked me.

Also the cleansing is not yet done, soon.
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>>162344326
Shit taste
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So how do you make money as wood elves? You can only have one wine maker per forest. How do you convert amber into sheckles?
I also noticed you can exempt out posts from taxation for +4 free public order.
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>>162353174

Pretty much, yes.
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>>162353297
>>162344907
>>
anyone find themselves with a permanent semi-boner while playing as welfies?
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>>162345261
b-but wardancers die fast if I send them to hold the melee and I have no amber for treemen
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>>162353603
>using treemen to hold the line and not to reinforce/flank melee fights
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>>162353603
Find amber for Tree Kin. They're the only unit in the entire roster that can stand and fight, you have no other choice.
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>>162353297

>make wine
>invade norsca
>research the thing that gives 400% more money from ports
>conquer the rest of the welfs and build more wine buildings alongside the thing that boosts wine income since it stacks

There you go. Have fun steamrolling everyone and everything.
>>
>>162353716
>>162353756
How many glade lords do you place in your roster?
>>
>>162353603

Play Durthu and get Treekin. Then Dryads. Then Treemen. Then Dragons. And Branchwraiths.

Argwylon is fucking hilarious to play.
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>>162353756
>Knights of the blazing sun show up to your treeparty
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>>162354008
>how many glade lords
Nigga, that's a lord unit
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OMFG I KILLED YOU 5 TURNS AGO
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So I'm pretty new to/bad at Medieval 2, I tried to do a Byzantine late campaign in SS6.4 but I didn't manage to take Constantinople before I ran out of money and when I tried again and reconquered parts of Greece first I got assfucked by the Venitians, Hungarians and Turks.

What do I do? Should I just try and maintain in an early era campaign?
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they sure are fun to play
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>>162354138

Wow, one gimmick unit that's never ever used can actually damage trees. I'm so scared.
>>
>>162354154

Based angry Dwarf
>>
>>162354154

It's like he's stubborn or something
>>
>>162353171
This

I'll be pretty butthurt if Tomb Kings don't get Arkhan, especially since CA has shown their willingness to create sub-factions now.
>>
>>162354154
WAZZOCK
A
Z
Z
O
C
K
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>>162354145
I meant Eternal Guards, shiet mang.
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>>162353174
You don't need amber for glade riders
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>pre ordered the dlc
>all I've done is played some custom battles
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>>162354154

I don't think you understand how fucking badass Grombrindal is.

>>162354298

I fucking love how CA have shown actual balls lately and added all these subfactions. I wish they'd go back and update all the vanilla factions and do the same for them. Updating the LLs would go a long way.
>>
>>162354387

Stop masturbating
>>
>>162354387
Well, the campaign is not going to play itself you ding dong....
>>
>>162354318
~6 and use two treemen to reinforce flanks and two treekin to reinforce the center if needed. Everything else is glade guard with ap and waywatchers. Swapped them for greatsword anti-large later in the campaign.
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Oh good, EVEN FUCKING BELEGAR HAS JOINED.
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Final Battle was neat. Durthu had ~600 AP damage at the end of this campaign - he bitch-slapped Archaon into oblivion in about 30 seconds thanks to Wyssan's Wildform when I ambushed his doomstack
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Razing was a mistake
>>
>>162354609

Based revenge incarnate
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>>162354270
Yeah I don't actually use them. I had to look how much they cost, 300 more than empire knights. Still, their stats are better and they give you some insurance against some of the best units wood elves have. Also the fire wizard is available, but that kinda locks you into fire magic.
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>>162354690
you're a mistake
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We're playing against /hanny/ in the VGL after this match. If we do anything but lose by 2-0 or more than two goals, we're through.

hitbox.tv/the4ch
an
cup

Karl Franz has given out two cautions already.
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Hahaha...HAHAHAHA

I'M AMBUSHING THIS CUNT AND I'M STILL DISADVANTAGED
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Man AOG fucking sucks.
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>>162354791

based napoopan will carry us again for sure
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Waystalkers are probably the best heros in the game
They get a lot of kills
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>>162355097
TAKE BACK EVERY GROODGE
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>>162355097
Their infantry and ranged units are better than yours to be fair.
>>
>>162355097
>Waywatcher kills Thorg
>Waywatcher kills gyro
>Skirmish
>?????????????
>Oh shit you won
>>
>>162355097

Of course he does, you're running around with mostly T1 units and he has Thunderers, Organ Guns, goddamn Gyrocopters and Slayers and even a Ironbreaker.
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>>162355097

Their artillery will be useless in battle

That is what, minus 5 units in the field?

Then you have the gryocopters who will be btfo by archers.

And since these stunties can't run for shit, you will win this easily
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>>162354791
G O B L I N S
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>>162336369
Late reply, but browse through "local_eng.pack", the localizations are there, find the one about edicts and adapt it to your mod
>>
FUCK OFF MIDGETS

FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF
>>
GOBLINS > pesky dwarves
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>>162347801
I was going to go south, get all the coastal cities, then take the Badlands to see what it would look like green, but I decided to hold off on that in favor of going North and turning Norsca green.
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Ungor are for stamping
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>>162355854

MIDGETS

BTFO
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>>162355854
YOU MUST BE THIS TALL TO WIN
>>
Haven't played warhammers since it released and I only did 2 campaigns. How is the DLC? From the screenshots in this thread the blood dlc looks a bit comical. Are tha beastmen good?
>>
>TWW will also have wood elves player on a minority because of how fucked up is their playstyle

tabletop lives on
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>>162356249
If you don't mind horde faction they are decent
>>
new thread whur
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>>162352390
Cute! CUUUUTE!
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>>162341085
>elf
>outnumbers beastmen
>loses more men

Elves were a fucking mistake.
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>>162348445
because giving each faction their own advisor would bankrupt CA so hard the entire UK economy would die from the shockwave
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>>162354387
You do want to play Mousillon, right?

Get on that minicampaign
>>
LL wizard spells should be twice as powerful as the generic wizard spells
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>>162365604
thats not how magic works in warhammer
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