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>[Babylonia Release Gacha]
http://cms.fate-go.jp/web/2016/0jbeo7/
- From 12/7 to 12/21
- 5* Enkidu (Lancer)
- 4* Gilgamesh (Caster)(Bride)
- 4* Medusa (Lancer)

>5* Demonic Buddha
50% NP Charge, Increase Overcharge by 2 (1 time)
>4* Room Guarder
Star Attraction +300%, reduce 300 damage
>3* Seeker of Miracles
+15% NP damage up when equipped on Divine Servants

>[Events]
- 1/2 AP all Orders
- From 12/7 to 12/14 everyone is getting 2 Golden Apple per day
- Fate Project TV CE (+50 Mystic Code EXP)

>News
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php
- New ver - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones&androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game
- FGO Special Anime will air on 12/31. TV Project series confirmed for next year.
- Da Vinci-chan Code event Japan only
- Final Battle Raid event later this month, you need to clear Babylonia to participate

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/cJ9J0t45
>Extella spoilers
http://pastebin.com/9Ai1Tg9i

>FL Spreadsheet (last reset: Dec.7)
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org

>Alternate servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html

>CMs
http://www.mediafire.com/download/960gn6g6w2p0l8q/FGO+Material+I.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wj405jjjc9ly94e/FGO+Material+II.zip
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LIZ THREAD
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When did FGO turn into super srs garbage?
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Can kill Beasts.
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>he didn't blow his load on this
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>>162333049
She can't even kill Dantes.
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>>162333056
>Rin
You're damn right I didn't.
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>>162333073
She did a pretty good job of it back on Onigashimi cave quest.
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Babylon went from cozy to absolute Hell in a matter of chapters.
Poor Gil is left with his kingdom in shambles.
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>Grands confirmed to take on Beasts
PRIMATE MURDERFAGS BTFO
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Say hello to my wife.
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What if King Hassan have all types of Mystic Eyes?
I mean how he can teleport,use blue flame and inject death with only 1 types of eye.And his eyes blink everytime he attack
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>>162333137
>Teeth aren't even sharpened to look razor and triangular.
>Instead they're rounded and actually resemble 3DPD canine teeth
At least her personality is festive.
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>>162333056
No, I did it on this.
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>>162333027
Step up your game Lizposter, you've got a new order for inspiration.
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>Dr. Roman: Age of Gods Regression of her spiritual base has progressed to the Jurassic Period! That’s no longer a divinity, that’s indisputably the body of god!

So Quetzalcoatl's mount(which is one of her NP) is pretty strong?
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>>162333237
Feels amazing.
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It's that time again.

Post them.
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>>162333027
RIZ THREAD
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>>162333027
>>162333271
Right? The least he could do is throw on Enkidu's gown thing or Gorgon's snake things or something.
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>>162333237
>>162333307
loli get!
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Kingu>>>Enkidu
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>>162333295
Considering she is a goddess with Riding EX and that's what she chooses to use as her mount?
That thing can probably solo half the servant cast.
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>>162333396
Congrats, treat her well
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>>162333271
>>162333370
I am dead
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>>162333329
any recommendations for my CEs?
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>>162332949
I love her so much, but I can't have her.
It's not fair, /fgog/.
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>>162333307
>>162333237
I still need to ascend her, but farming those blue tails is a pain. Who thought it was a good idea to ask for 24 of those things?
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>>162333112
Read KnK event. She can't even kill a shadow of Dantes.
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>>162333593
Thankfully the story gives you like half of them. Had to blow two apples for the rest but it was worth it to ascend her.
The real pain will be those lion tails or whatever those Richard hair things are for her skills.
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>>162333526

People are more likely to notice your Bond point CE if you place it on the 'All' servant rather than Zerker. Otherwise it's hard to give recommendations without knowing your CE's available.
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>>162332874
Post more or link source
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>>162333593
Where are you farming the blue tails?
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>>162333714
General idea for CEs would be fine, like np dmg CE for Ishtar or something like that
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>>162333593
I'm levelling Caster Gil's skills. 48 poison stingers (pretty sure that's what they are) per skill. You know not how bad it can get.
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So, if someone wants to summon Cu or Karna in a Rider class, will he also get Laeg/Shalya as a designated charioteer?
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>>162333654
You were lucky, I have only got 3 drops since I finished Babylon aside from the ones in the Ibaraki quest.

>>162333849
Not sure if the best place to farm, but there is an area above Uruk that has only a lancer icon. There you only fight rows of blue monsters.
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>>162333714
I don't know, I put it on my assassin slot since Babylon is full of riders and I'm getting a fuckton of FP.
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>>162334006
Did Iskander or Achilles get charioteers?
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>>162333945
>48 poison stingers (pretty sure that's what they are)
nope
....what?
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>>162333930
In that case, I'd recommend giving Drake Golden Sumo instead of Larturia and handing Larturia something more like Halloween Princess (NP gauge and NP damage) - she's pretty much all about NPing, so general attack buffs are slightly wasted on her.

I'd also think about giving Shuten a Stargen / NP gain up CE instead of 2030, but people don't tend to have those as much for some reason. She also works well with a hybrid Arts boost / NP gain CE like the 4* Da Vinci CE from 2016 Halloween. 2030 does work fine though, it's a very universal CE.
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>Dr. Roman: As long as we kill her while she’s in the Underworld, she shouldn’t be able to benefit from her paradox restoration!

What's this about?
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>>162333945
You are probably better waiting for an event anon.
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>>162333031
When nasucuck stopped playing darksouls
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>>162334149
Roman just making sure that everything goes down as he planned.
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>>162334101
The name of the item is literally "Deadly Poison Needle", unless you mean the actual number. I can't get an in-game screenie, but Kazemai don't lie.
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I'm about to use 2 more grails on this dog who is probably the MVP of the whole entire game for me and my favorite Lancer character.

Man, this guy is amazing.
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>>162334089
Nope, but in their (and Medb's) cases charioteers aren't relevant to their deaths.
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>>162334195
I have 150 Golden apples, and about 6 servants I want bond CE on. This is hardly a waste of effort for me.
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>>162334149
Probably


Independent Manifestation: B
The skill of appearing in the material plane by oneself. Once she appears, she will paint over the Indian Ocean in a span of seven days. When she manifests, she will continue to produce monsters without rest which will devour humanity. However, her main body cannot embark on land. The job of exterminating humanity is left to her children.
>Furthermore, this skill demonstrates her nature of already existing across all of time and space, so it is not just able to cancel attacks via time paradoxes using time travel, but cancel out all forms of instant death attacks.

Sounds like Ciel's thing with Roa but even better
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>>162334220
Is it better guys?
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>>162334119
The advice is much appreciated. I'll try the kiyo+tama CE on Shuten, see how that works out.
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>>162334260
I'm pretty sure that even then they won't be summoned. Beowulf summons Grendel because it's a vital part of his legend and it's also famous. Those other two aren't.
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>>162334290
>>162334149
As long as her offspring, meaning all forms of life on Earth, exist, she is immortal. Dropping her into the underworld worked because there's nothing living in the underworld. She is totally immortal on the surface unless you wipe out all life on Earth.
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SHA---Aaaaaa、 aaaaaaan------!
SHA---Aaaaaa、 aaaaaaan------!
SHA---Aaaaaa、 aaaaaaan------!
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>>162334426
So would Gate of Skye work on it?
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test
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>>162334438
Would you LISTEN TO HER SONG /fgog/?
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>>162334225
Are you sure Caster Gilles needs that?
A NEW MATERIAL
JUST INTRODUCED
FOR A SERVAN THAT'S BEEN OUT SINCE LAUNCH
Use your brain.
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>>162334496
You retard. He said Caster Gil, not Caster Gilles.
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@162334496
nice bait
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>>162332949
I'm glad they baited with Ishtar and not Ereshkigal. Ereshkigal is too strong and I might have rolled.
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>>162333237
>Roll 60 crystals for Loli Medusa

>get three caster Gil

fuck this
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>>162334496
You are fucking retarded, holy shit
Gil=Gilgamesh not Gilles
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>>162334496
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>>162334496
>Caster Gilles
Perhaps you oughta read the post, or maybe use your brain?
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>>162334521
baited
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>Still not enough grails to grail my favorites.
If I could have just 2 more. 2 more and I'll be satisfied. Taiga made me need more.
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>>162334438
I'll never take Tiamat seriously because of that design. All that imposing stuff and her monster form are thrown out of window when I start getting horny.
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Is Babylonia Heaven's Feel of FGO?
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I must have missed it, but how did Leonidas die?
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>>162332949
So, after all that, is Gilgamesh a Grand Caster or Grand Archer candidate? (assuming he'll become Grand Servant)
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>>162334661
Grand Gilgamesh
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>>162334661
>Grand Caster
Yes.
>Grand Archer
Maybe, once we know what the qualification for that is.
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I'm half asleep so this summary is gonna be missing a lot of details.
You get back to shore and get contacted by Gil. I think he hacked your comm lines? He asks how it went, and Quetzy explains how it all went wrong because of her carelessness. She explains like the entire thing, Gil is impressed how fast she can talk.

The question is what to do now, and Roman has an idea. He thinks it's dumb, but Gil could care less. I don't recall what the plan was exactly, but considering what happens I think it's to just try to kill Tiamat before she fully awakens. You all figure why not and go for it. Mashu wants you to stay behind where it's safe (earlier you were at risk of falling into the black ocean), but Gil rejects that because Masters should stay near their Servants. You agree. Gil asks if you're up to this, and is pleased with your confidence.

So you fly over, and find a horned woman. Or rather you hear her singing. Ishtar confirms it's Tiamat, and Mashu observes the song makes her feel weaker. Tiamat isn't doing anything at first, but when you decide to attack she changes to a more battle-worthy color scheme. The readings don't look good, but you've got to fight.

When you win, you're all overjoyed. Roman says all that's left is to collect the Holy Grail, but Mashu stops everyone for a bit to talk about Tiamat. Then everything starts shaking, and you find out the bad news that the Tiamat you fought wasn't the main body. Tiamat surfaces, and the ensuing tidal wave almost hits Uruk. The city is only saved by this crazy hidden dam wall Gil had ready.

You decide there's nothing you can do but head back. At Uruk, a soldier reports only 500 people are still alive, much to Mashu's despair.

There's a whole lot of talking about how hopeless things are (Gil asks if Roman got data on Tiamat, Roman passes it over, Gil takes a look then throws it out because it says there's no weaknesses), but eventually Gil comes up with an idea.
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>>162334661
Gil is a grand magi, not a grand servant. Spoiler guy got confused because Solomon is also a grand magi and mentioned in the same line.
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>>162334649
He tanked the Gorgon's gaze for us.
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>>162334661
Gil doesn't fit being any grand. He's not a master of anything, he doesn't embody anything, at least Emiya was like a prodigy super-archer.
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>>162334709
That was Merlin. Gil and Solomon are explicitly Grand Caster candidates.
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>>162334702
Is this still chapter 16?
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Speaking of Merlin, the Merlin seen in this chapter all along is a "shadow". The real Merlin exists in dreams, and was in Tiamat's dream keeping her asleep. Killing Gorgon awakens her, and she kills him, which causes the shadow to fade.

>>162334781
>>162334709
Roman says that Merlin is a 冠位(グランド)の魔術師 = grand mage upon which Merlin says "that's right, I'm Grand Caster Merlin! Just kidding".

After that Roman says that a condition to be a Grand is to have farsight/clairvoyance/千里眼, and gives Solomon and Gilgamesh as examples, before saying Merlin's is shit because he can only see the present.
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>>162334702
Ah, so that's the context on those walls that popped up on the map.
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>>162334908
A Grand anything, or Grand Caster?
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>>162334908
>farsight/clairvoyance
Is that supposed to be an actual skill in the profile? Because unlike any version of Gilgamesh, Solomon has it (EX rank).
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>>162334984
Considering they're talking about Grand Caster, it's more than likely just Grand Caster. It wouldn't make much sense for Grand Berserker to need past and future Clairvoyance.
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>>162335025
It would make sense for Grand Archer to need it, though.
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>>162334984
I assumed Grand Caster but it seems to be referring to a clocktower ranking thing I wasn't aware of.
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>>162335014
Sha Nagba Imuru, Gilgamesh's EX rank NP which is sealed or something along those lines in his adult form. I'm not sure if he has access to it as Caster, but he does in his child form.
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>>162335064
So Touko is clairvoyant?
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>>162335014
Gilgamesh has an NP, check Ko-Gil's page.

>>162335054
And Grand Saber too? Or Grand Assassin? I'm sure you could come up with some reason for it, but I really really doubt that Clairvoyance is necessary for all Grand Classes.
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>>162334968
Magic Wand! Make my Tiamat grow!

>chucks a big ass fucking scepter from the moon to the Earth
>Roman sighs and prepares the robots
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>>162335014
Roman doesn't refer to it as a skill, just a thing they're supposed to have.

>>162335064
>>162335025
>>162334984

>>162331717
>>162332130
>>162332370
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>>162335134
Guda, Mashu, Da Vinci - who gets the other two robots?
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>>162334781
>Grand candidates
I wonder if that's code for "you'll be sent to do annoying jobs but get more vacation time than the redman"
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>>162334764
So Art holding muh fairy sword can, but other servants can't?
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>>162335064
I don't think Clock Tower Grands have anything remotely on the level of Merlin's clairvoyance, except maybe Zelretch.

More likely he's using it as a catch-all for the pinnacle of magi?
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>>162335209
It's probably some kind of jackass VIP area in the Throne that only the best and most elite get into. They have the toughest jobs but they get the best strippers.
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>>162334495
I would prefer to hear her song instead.
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I hate phone posting, this is the second time I had to write this.

Gil calls out for Ereshkigal a bunch, and she actually shows up. She's really busy dealing with the sudden influx of souls so she's pretty grumpy about being called out like this. Then you say hi and she notices you're there.

She immediately cuts the comms, pretties herself up a little, then comes back and warmly greets you.

Anyways Gil's idea is that if you can't directly kill Tiamat, why not just drop her into Irkalla for an indirect death? He mentions the "final life" in quotes, so he may be rules lawyering a prophecy or something. Ereshkigal is not too sure about this idea, but a combination of Gil attacking her ego and her wanting to impress you gets her to agree.

So how will you drop Tiamat in? Also simple: Ishtar's NP. If it can blow up a mountain, it should do just fine. Everyone starts praising Ishtar, but there's a problem: she dropped her NP somewhere.

Gil starts insulting her, and Ishtar can't really defend herself. I guess you need to go find it now? Don't remember.

Chapter 19's second part (also 0 AP, the whole chapter is a free quartz) looks to be the typical "before the final battle" chat. You were talking to Quetzy or something before I decides to stop for the night.

Anyways I am going to just stop now before the constant typos I get typing on a phone piss off my inner grammar nazi so hard I commit suicide.
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>>162334438
I want to free tiamat and make her my wife !
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>>162335380
>>So how will you drop Tiamat in? Also simple: Ishtar's NP. If it can blow up a mountain, it should do just fine. Everyone starts praising Ishtar, but there's a problem: she dropped her NP somewhere.

I thought they were talking about the Bull of Heaven.
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>>162332949
>that night you spend with her
Holy shit, she's a cutie.
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>>162335380
>Gil calls out for Ereshkigal a bunch, and she actually shows up. She's really busy dealing with the sudden influx of souls so she's pretty grumpy about being called out like this. Then you say hi and she notices you're there.

She immediately cuts the comms, pretties herself up a little, then comes back and warmly greets you.
This is too much, I need her.
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>>162335215
giglamesh got beaten by a japanese highschooler because he's a master of nothing

Meanwhile Saber held her own against a samurai who was so good at swordsmanship it became magic, the fastest and one of the greatest spearmen of all time, and the future Japanese highschool student who had become dope as shit with swords.

She may not be the greatest knight in arthurian legend, but she's good enough here because Galahad is never going to get shown (and for some reason lancelot isn't as cool as he is in the legends)
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>>162335119
Isn't Touko an "orange" rank? And wanted to be "blue"?
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>>162335380
>She immediately cuts the comms, pretties herself up a little, then comes back and warmly greets you.
Heh, I remember her flickering off and then on again. I stopped skipping scenes a little while before this. Good times.
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>>162335469
She's dirty red
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>>162334425
He qualifies but Fragarach would probably be a difficult gimmick to work with.
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>>162335469
That's title, not rank. And she's Dirty Red.
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>>162335089
>>162335124
That NP is more Super True Name Discernment than Clairvoyance, it's more likely Gil's Clairvoyance is just not listed.
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>>162335469
>In her graduation, Touko wanted to earn the highest colored title of "Blue" but instead was given title "Orange" and had the title of "Blue" stolen by her sister.
So yeah, she's forever inferior.
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>>162335335
Cute sword. M-maybe fgo will have a collab with the new game?
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>>162335434
Whoops, you're right. Mixed up the names.

Now I'm not so sure what Gil's plan for Ishtar is anymore though.
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>>162335656
>FGO
>Collab with anything else other than more TM works
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>>162335462
That's not how FSN and how Grand Servants work anon.
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They really went all out with the CGs here
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So, what's the general consensus on Babylon's additions to the roster?
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So, now that we know that Merlin and Roman were talking about Grand (Magi), where it was mentioned the concept of Grand Servant candidate?
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>>162335761
I'm sorry, could you rephrase that in English?
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>>162335725
I think Blazblue is a valid option for a collab.
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>>162335434
That must be some extreme breaking and plowing if the bull is their anti-Tiamat NP.
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>>162335725
Not if Nana wills it
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>>162335740
Loli Medusa is shit.
Enkidu is mediocre.
Caster Gil works well with Saberlot.
Jaguar Man is one of the better lancers.
Quetzalcoatl is a great single target rider, cute and fun.
Gorgon Medusa is alright.
Ereshkigal should be made rollable at some point.
Merlin is the Caster that will surpass Waver when he's released.
King Hassan is cool as fuck.
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>>162335801
5* Noel
3* Ragna
3* Jin
Mori wills it
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>>162335726
technicalities, narratively there is 0 reason for gil to be a grand. He doesn't fit anything.
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>>162335740
General consensus says Enkidu is trash, but honestly for a 5* he's just average. Caster Gilgamesh is one of the better 4* Casters alongside Helena, but not superior to any 5* for obvious reasons. Medusa Lily is garbage in-game but lol snek waifu.

Quetzalcoatl is probably the strongest servant added in Babylon overall, despite memeing on her. Gorgon is Avenger / 10, she has a few issues but on the whole her skills and NP are solid. Jaguarman is pretty good but also memerific.
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>>162335586
>That NP is more Super True Name Discernment than Clairvoyance
It's really not
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>>162335462
>The fastest and one of the greatest spearmen of all time

One of the greatest, yeah, but not THE fastest.
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>>162335729
Tiamat had some good scenes. I would have enjoyed her doing a boss rush against my entire servant list. Reduce the Merlin buffs and see how far she can butcher her way through.
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>>162335391
And I want you to succeed! Better start saving quartz and tickets now.
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>>162335853
>Enkidu is mediocre
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>>162335893
They literally say his speed is unmatched amongst lancers.
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>>162335946
Archer says his speed is probably #3 amongst heroic spirits iirc. Achilles is undoubtedly faster than him, and we don't know the other one.
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>>162335983
No that was skill, fastest amongst lancers and at least top 3 in terms of skill.
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>>162335380
>Quetzalcoatl
She apologizes to you that she knew about the real Tiamat but she says she did it for Gorgon's sake because she didn't want to make her appear pitiful. Then Jaguarman comes in and reveals that Quetzalcoatl joined the trinity to save humanity at the last minute because she knew the other goddesses weren't going to stop.
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>>162335391
And since she still has Ushi in her tummy, you're getting two waifus for the price of one
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Why would Grand Magi (who have never been referenced prior to this point iirc) be relevant in a Fate game where Grand Servants are the hottest shit?

When the only confirmed Grand Caster we know became a danger precisely because of his ability to see through time?

There's no need for mental gymnastics folks.
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>>162335391
Humanity's destruction is moe.
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>>162335586
That's part of it, but Ko-Gil's profile says it sees through all of creation.
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>>162335925
He's right.
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>>162335946
That was according to Archer, a known liar, who was trying to find a way to reason out why he knew it was Cu Chulainn besides either remembering him from when he was Shirou or looking at his spear and instantly knowing it was Gae Bolg.

Achilles is the fastest Heroic Spirit, Karna is a step slower than him, Vlad was keeping up with both as a vampire. It was more than likely Emiya bullshitting so he wouldn't give away his identity to Rin, or have to explain his abilities.
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>>162335335
Good choice
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>>162335458
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>>162335946
>>162336109
Emiya was talking about speed with a spear you faggots.
Achilles is way faster on foot but his NP of GOTTAGOFAST does not make his spearplay any faster.
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>>162335458
It's like Ishtar isn't even trying
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>>162335925
Just use a crit buster team and he's fine.
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>>162336109
Even the narration agreed with him being the fastest.
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>>162334495
I think you mean RISTEN TO MAI SOOOONGUUU~!
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>>162335886
>Enkidu is average
>Medusa Lily is garbage
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>>162335458
I wanna hold her high and steal her pain away
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>>162335890
SNI reveals information such as true name and NP like TND, Gil's Clairvoyance is just future sight, and the wording "sublimated into" made it seem like he only got it after becoming HS and we know Gil can see the future while he's still alive.
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>>162336254
Narration also calls Gilgamesh the strongest, Black Saber the strongest, and Heracles the strongest.
Narration waxes poetic a lot.
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>>162335783
Sorry
Where was mentioned that for the container of Grand Servant there are multiple candidates, if Merlin and Roman were talking about Grand Magi instead of Grand Casters?
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If I kill Koyama will Enkidu get his passives back?
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>>162335458
I love the way people pretend she'll never be in the gacha when releasing a second Rin Servant with a different hair color and better personality just to rake in more money is totally a DW thing.
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>>162336254
Not that guy, but wasn't there a line about Rider being faster in top speed but Lancer having more burst acceleration? Nasu is pretty dodgy either way when it comes to dramatic lines even in narration. Like "that's impossible" and then it happens.

>>162336367
Everyone's the strongest
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>instakill a Bel Lahmu with Shiki
I should have thought of this sooner.
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>>162336323
It's true. Just use an Enkidu that isn't the one they provide you in Babylon and make sure he's on a team that actually works with him.
/fgog/ does this everytime a new 5* comes out that isn't Jeanne alter tier. Just a week ago everyone was calling Rin Ishtar shit.
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>>162336323
Just greentexting my statements doesn't refute them. Enkidu has a few handy applications and reasonably good bases in his stargen and NP gain, but he is generally outclassed by Tamamo Lancer and Scathach. Medusa Lily's NP gain is awful and 2/3 of her skills are trash. Her only nice traits are her stargen, which is still only above average, and her high debuff resistance.
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>>162336254
Wouldn't be the first time Nasu changed his mind. He should really stop using superlatives to describe people.
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>>162336423
Don't forget that TM has history of shitting out improved Rin pallet swaps.
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>>162335827
>>162335335
When is Nana going to will herself into the game?
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>>162336489
Jeanne Alter is overrated. /fgog/ is just shit
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Finally, chapter 21 Babylon clear.

/fgog/, should I roll after clearing the final chapter?
I want Gorgon badly.
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>>162336489
Ishtar is pretty bad though
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>>162336418
What did Koyama do? I've heard about this before but I don't know details.
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I tested Enkidu randomly borrowing him from the support list
It's more fun than I thought somehow
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>Monster stands still spamming emotes
?
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>>162336559
Wait until post-chapter rate ups.

>>162336569
>this triggers rinfags
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>>162336559
Wait for her rate up.
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>>162336423
We're also almost through the original leaked list of Servants. Most of the ones that still haven't been released can probably be dropped in random events during the down time between Part 1 and Part 2 before they roll out the Part 2 list, which may very well have Ereshkigal on it.
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>>162336593
It's a scared child
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>>162336593
Gil's secretary doesn't want to fight you.
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>>162336532
It's less she's overrated and more she has all the benefits that even retards can tell are good - three consistent and powerful damage skills, the ability to NPBB chain, An Invuln skill, ridiculously high attack stat and very clearly high NP gain.

The people who diss Enkidu are the same types who thought Scath were trash on release because they kept doing AQQ chains with her and getting barely any stars and NP gain.
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>>162336559
Wait for rate up
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>>162336593
The cute NPC that was Gil's secretary? That's her. She's nothing but a horrific abomination now and she's standing around letting you kill her to end the suffering and misery that is her tortured existence now.

Have fun.
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>>162336656
>>162336665
Damn, that's sad.
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>>162336613
Somebody update this list.
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>>162336657
I mean she's overrated as in like everyone thinks everything should compete to be as "good" as her, and it's just stupid.
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>>162336493
4 hits on actually make her generation quite good and battle continuation is never a bad skill. Also, funny thing you mention skills since every single one of Enkidu's skill are as "good".
How is Enkidu any better than Lily aside from 5* stats?
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>>162336586
Apparently Jap sources say that TM is the one who works on skills and stuff, and that Koyama himself is directly involved in skills and game balance, and pushes hard for Scathach to be the best, and since she's ultimately a middling unit compared to other classes, that means making every other 5* Lancer shit compared to her. Enkidu having two of his passives axed and his second skill being shit seem to suggest that it's true.
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>>162336707
Why is Achilles crossed out? That nigger's gotta wait for the Apoc Event like the rest of them.
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>>162336707
Perfect setup for an all Sakura event soon
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>>162336586
Not that anon but pic related.
Gold lancers are intentionally inferior to make Scat look good.
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>>162336785
Why would they do that? It's not like there's some kind of Heaven's Feel movie coming out.
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>>162336525
When they decide which grand or beast fits her best.
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>>162336784
He's marked as green because he's shown up in an interlude but isn't playable yet.
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>>162336657
>the same types who thought Scath were trash on release because they kept doing AQQ chains with her and getting barely any stars and NP gain.
And there it is.
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>>162336746
Enkidu's NP damage booster is double the skill Medusa Lily's will ever be, and Medusa Lily's NP Gain is only a little decent on her Arts (As in, about as good as a Caster). Her NP generates nothing. Her Quick generates nothing and her Extra generates nothing even on an Arts chain. Her NP gain on her Arts cards is nowhere good enough to compensate for how bad her other cards are at it, unlike Kuro who suffers the same issue.
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>>162336525
When they add a legendary female singer into the game as a Caster
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>>162336872
Need a My Room dialogue option where he briefly mentions Atalanta.

>Oh, is that Atalanta. Hey, Atalanta. What's new?

Just to fuel the antiwaifushitters

>KEKED AGAIN, FAGGOTS
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>>162336746
>Also, funny thing you mention skills since every single one of Enkidu's skill are as "good".
No, it isn't. 50% Buster Up, not counting the RNG Quick/Arts, and straight up 10k heal at skills level 10 will always be better than Monstrous Strength and BC.
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>>162336901
Her NP and Quick cards generate stars though. Enkidu boost is also RNG, completely unreliable for anything.
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You know despite all the Lancer shitposting I feel like a few of them are 1 or 2 buffs away from being good.

Whether or not they'll get those buffs though are another problem
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>roll 90 quartz post-Babylon for Caster Gil
>get Gawain and Nightingale
I guess that's just how these things go.
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>>162337021
>Enkidu boost is also RNG
The RNG is only for Quick/Arts, his Buster will always get boosted and his NP is Buster. It's basically like Saber Prana Burst but with a bonus.
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>>162337021

The Buster is guaranteed, and that's all you need for NPing. I did say her stargen is one of her plusses, but every shit servant still has their boons, like Medb demolishing males or Amakusa's super speedy NP gain and uniquely strong buff removal.
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>>162337021
>completely unreliable for anything except ensuring his NP always gets a damage boost

FTFY
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>>162337021
Enkidu's Boost is 50% Buster and one at random between 50% Arts or 50% quick
It's clearly meant to use it with his NP
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>>162336707
Looking at how few Servants there are left to be released, it's clear that Grand Order's days are numbered. Spending a penny on this game knowing that it will go down soon is pretty damn foolish.
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>Enkidufags need to fight against 4* in order to see who is the better Lancer
This is just sad.
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>>162336593
Can Shiki kills her with her NP? I don't want her suffer lasts
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>>162336963
It'll probably be something about how he couldn't properly save her and he's sorry, but knowing how obsessed this general is with cucking they'll take that as evidence that Achilles and Atalanta are totally fucking.
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>>162337026
They'll get it down the road. Scathach will be the first 5* Lancer to get a skill interlude and a skill strengthening quest.
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>>162337128
>3* is better than both
This is just sad
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>>162337128
His NP damage already shown to be second only to Scat, Koyama's waifu. This is only to correct misinformation.
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>>162337128
>the best Saber in the game is also a 4*
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>>162337169
2 3* what's more, Cu and Taiga.
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>>162337171
>second to Scat
>when the chart shows it's actually lower than Li Shuwho

Try again Enkidufag :^)
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>>162337189
Sumanai pls.
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>>162337124
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If Koyama only asked the game balancer to make Scat strong, why did the faggot make all the other 5* Lancer shit?
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>>162337208
Someone did the math for it a few threads ago you fool. His NP is 2nd to Scat as far as gold lancers go and the 7th strongest in general.
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>>162337208
>using the meme chart where it disregards his 20% defense down before the damage done and his also not using him 1st skill
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>>162337159
Evil Cat is already all for (You) as she explains in her My Room dialogue and her Valentines Day dialogue. She wants you to fill her with evil kittens. But be prepared for the consequences of unleashing her evil offspring upon the world.
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>>162337216
Planning game balance and character variety across a full year is tricky.
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>>162336707
Went and did it myself. Anyone I forgot?
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>>162336906
>caster
>not a 5* Lancer who surpasses everyone so far
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>>162337124
Grand Order is Sony's only competition with Pokemon GO right now and is making everyone a ton of money. The only way this game ends any time soon is if DW, Sony, and Type-Moon all suddenly decide that they hate money.
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>>162337128
More like we're clearing up dumb misconceptions /fgog/ like to perpetuate because as much as they like to shit on the likes of cancer such as Reddit, this too is an echo chamber.
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>>162337276
Tomoe Gozen was mentioned in the story
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>>162337260
Then I hope that after Solomon they can finally release SQ for 5* and for other 4*
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>>162337312
Sure, but until we get a design for her and she actually shows up in-game, I don't count her.
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>>162337069
Are you me? I also got 2 tristans
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>>162337276
They have all set for a Alter Ego, Prototype and Apocrypha for what it seems.
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>>162337343
Fair enough
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>>162337276
I've heard, but can't confirm, that it was mentioned Amakusa Shirou went south of Babylonia in an attempt to find a catalyst to summon Semiramis but was killed by Taiga when he got lost in a South American jungle that wasn't supposed to be there.

So Semi may or may not have been mentioned.
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>>162336707
>Fucking Edison
kek
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>>162337248
>implying facts matter
The fact that another man will show interest in Atalanta even if it's just apologising for failing in Apocrypha means that the cuckshitters will be all over her.
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>>162337276
Sanzang Fashi = Genjo Sanzo = titty monk
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>>162337372
>Amakusa Shirou went south of Babylonia in an attempt to find a catalyst to summon Semiramis but was killed by Taiga
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>>162336707
So we HAVE gotten Servants who weren't on the leaked list then?
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>>162337304
Memeing takes a while to die down. But hey, Enkidu wasn't called Lancer Orion, so progress!
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>>162337413
Some anon claimed she ate him. Babylonia was full of vore shit.

More like Taiga raped and murdered a handsome fuccboi probably.
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What was that update for?
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>>162337372
Based yakuza tiger taking care of trash.
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If Taiga is supposed to be so strong why are her lore Stats so shit?
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>>162337483
nasu really let go in this chapter
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>>162337410
Right.
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>>162337483
Shirou would never let that slut touch him. He's 100% loyal.
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>>162337515
Nerfed by making her a Lancer instead of Saber with shinai
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>>162337124
>''it's clear that Grand Order's days are numbered''

So numbered they still have hundreds of historical/myth characters they can use and haven't even used some big names like Napoleon, Hitler, Genghis Khan, etc.

Even story-wise, they still have a lot of shit they can use. 5 Grands remain and now we know there's 6 other beasts besides Tiamat. And they haven't even begun to touch upon some big historical events like WWII, American Revolution or Civil War, etc.

With the amount of money it earns and the amount of shit they can still write upon, it's not ending any time soon.
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Is Cirno dead?
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>>162337483
>>162337523
Vore has always been lurking in the shadows of this franchise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAV-_EdD56s
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Does the Covering Fire CE work on each attack or each hit?
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>>162337664
Ye
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>>162337665
Don't post that shit anon, there are lolis here.
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>>162337430
Was it because Enkidu isn't as bad or Orion got better?
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>>162337665
LANCER GA SHINDA
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So I'm up to Tiamat, why is her name Femme Fatalle when in battle?
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>>162337430
If Enkidu isn't the worst 5* Lancer, who is it then?
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>>162337773
Because she's a Femme, and she's quite Fatale.
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>>162337791
Bryn
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>>162337791
Brynhidr is
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>>162337773
That's the name of her humanoid form, for whatever reason.
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>>162337758
Isn't as bad.
Also he has redeeming qualities as a character while Orion comes with that wretched woman.
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>>162337828
> does more damage on characters with Beloved trait
> charges NP much faster
> can NPBBC
> has better utility skills

Nah, she's far better.
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>>162337791
Bryn, her Beloved shit really fuck her up.
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>>162337791
Brynhildr or Lancer Arturia.
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>>162337857
Not that he hasn't been trying to put her off on (You)
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Are they implying that everything we've done until now is child's play and now we have to fight the big boy villains?
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>>162337897
But Vanilla Lancer Arturia is good though. cohesive deck and straightforward AOE buster NP, not to mention she has dragon trait which makes her extra-buffable with a few servants.
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>>162337758
Orion was useful for some anti-male battles. But mostly she's just old news. New servants to mock like Amakusa are around.
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>>162337929
It means "The tutorial just ended", the real chapter gonna coming soon.
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Reminder she is the Nega Messiah
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>>162337929
Yes
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>>162337791
Bryn.
I also have a few friends who also really hate using Tamamo Lancer and I kind of want to know what /fgog/'s opinion on her is.
To quote one of them in particular,
"Everything hit's like a wet noodle. Why do they keep doing this to Tamamo?".
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>>162337897
Lancer Arturia just needs an NP Interlude which should have been released alongside her as it's clear that her damage is meant to be greater than what it is.
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>>162337372
I think it was actually that Fuuma and Amakusa went south to scout and never came back. Gil said it was probably Quetzlcoatl that did them in because she's one of the few things that outclasses those Servants in this singularity or something. Though given that we find later she's never killed anyone, it's possible they're still alive and kicking somewhere?

Or maybe Gil is wrong and Taiga really killed them.
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>>162337964
Goddamn, anon. Warn someone before you bring that stinking rotting loli in here so we can crack a window.
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>>162337929
Growing up means killing your mother. Otherwise you'll always be a manchild.
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>>162337929

You're deflowering Tiamat's true form and making her into a real woman
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>>162337929
>tfw the raid is just a prologue to FGO 2.0
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>almost a year and Bryn still has no Interlude or buffs to help her out

When you realize that Koyama bullshit is real
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So what is the Powerlevel Hierarchy in Nasuverse right now?
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>>162337970
Koyama won't let it happen, not before Scat gets a couple of buffs to her skills.
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>>162337968
I have TamaShark and I don't think her damage is shit, kinda in the lower end of the spectrum yeah but it's okay, her NP damage is kinda shit if not against male but it's single target so still hits harder than most AoE. Her skills has too many demerit and requirement though.
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>>162337949
She's got one of the most powercrept skills in the game, her Prana Burst is worse than her Alter version, her Blessings skill is much, much worse than her Alter version, and her NP hits like a wet noodle most of the time. On top of that, her max attack is pitiful compared to other 5* Lancers.

>>162337970
Yeah, but she doesn't have it now, and that's what we're discussing. She's one of, if not the worst 5* Lancer currently.
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Can we kill Koyama yet?
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>>162338073
>almost a year and Karna only has a quartz interlude
>when Arjuna immediately got an NP interlude

Really makes you think.
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>>162338175
What if the raid is on DW headquarters?
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Ishtar interlude when
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All I want is for Karna to get Crit Star Attraction on Uncrowned Arms Master, is that too much to ask?
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>>162338225
I hope it starts next week.
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>>162338259
After Iskandar's
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That feel when anti-scatfags are so ass devastated by her superiority that they believe it's a conspiracy against their clay gay husbando
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What's the oldest servant without any interlude
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>>162338265
Yes.
t.Koyama
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>>162338217
I wonder how much cocksucking his VA did for that to happen
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>>162338279
I don't think Jeanne ever got hers
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>>162338272
Iskandar and Arturia Lancer first. Then they can fix Ishtar right before they release Ereshkigal just so she can try to remain relevant.
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>almost 2 year and Siegfried still doesn't get any NP interlude but instead 2 quartz interlude

Really make you think
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>>162338275
>attacking one single fags when every other Lancerfags are on the case
Nice try scatfag.
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>>162338275
Read >>162336787
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With 1028 point when equiped with 2 LB lunch CE, I guess the 21 AP boar mountain is the new spot to farm bond point.
Anyone with a better spot?
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>>162338279
I think all release Servants had at least one quartz interlude. So maybe someone from the Okeanos batch?
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>>162338318
She had a quartz Interlude.
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>>162336787
>because of him Lancers are made intentionally shit probably
>probably
>PROBABLY

Nothing more than fan theory bullshit from asshurt fags that their favorite Lancer is trash. You're worse than the rasslin' fags who blame John Cena because their favorite spot monkey or jobber isn't getting a big enough push.
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>Enkidufags prove Enkidu isn't iredeemable
>it leads to Lancerfags questioning who the worst Lancer is
>suddenly the rest of the Lancerfags come to the realization that every Lancer is mediocre in some way save for Scat
>they conclude to kill Koyama
This is progressing like a Victorian gothic novel.
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>>162338392
Right. I was thinking of upgrades.
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>>162338382
So MaryAnne, Drake, Medea Lily? They all had one, Medea Lily even had skill Interlude.
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>>162338410
But, anon. Some other anon said Koyama is probably the problem. We should take that anon's theory as word of God.
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>>162337791
Scat > Bryn > Enkidu > Tamemek > Karna > Lion king
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>>162338334
>almost 1 year and half and Martha still doesn't get any NP interlude too
Fuck Koyama.
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>>162338334
At this point making Siegfried better would ruin his worth as a meme.
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>>162338437
*on top of NP Interlude.

Silly sentences
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>still no Cu buff

Fuck Koyama
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>>162336367
>Gilgamesh is a grand candidate
>Artoria is a grand candidate
>Heracles is a grand candidate
Naration isn't that wrong, it just depends on the circumstance
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>>162338465
How the hell is Bryn better than Enkidu, let alone Tamamo when they can consistently dish out better damage than her?
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>>162338437
From Okeanos Hector and Euryale had their upgrades, don't remember if David got any quartz/upgrade interludes.

After that we got Halloween, then Honnouji. Tamamo had multiple interludes.

Pretty sure Okita didn't though, not even a quartz interlude.
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>>162338465
Lancer Tamamo is the 2nd best Lancer what the fuck are you talking about ?
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>>162338405
>no Lancers have gotten NP interludes after a whole year
>each of them have some gimmick save for Scat
>2 of Enkidus passives were removed for no reason
I don't know man.
>>162338467
Martha had two skill interludes though. It's at least something.
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>>162332949
Ereshkigal being in the same boat as Sita, Holmes, and all the other sprite but no in game model servants is the first time I've been legitimately disappointed by this.
Even fucking King Azazel gets to battle.
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>>162338547
Bryn has better team support and survivability than Enkidu with her skills, being able to BBC compensates for the damage, and Beloved trait allows her to NP harder than him.
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>>162338523
>Cu alter's Pfa skill was nerfed to 2 hits instead of 3 hits like his lancer self.
We should raid Koyama's ass not Solomon.
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>>162338561
The fact Arjuna got an upgrade while Karna didn't really stood out as strange.
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>>162338561
>no Lancers have gotten NP interludes after a whole year
Fionn
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>>162336497
There is nothing wrong with it when we are talking about the best of humanity, the problem is people then taking everything literally.
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>>162338410
I warned everyone that Enkidufags would be cancerous. They're getting to that same level as tumblr SJWs who bitch because Black Widow isn't the star of the Avengers or because there are no lesbian Disney princesses.

Soon they'll be posting full blogs on here about how triggered they are that an overly-sexualized character is unfairly better than their gay clay and demanding equal rights for marginalized Lancers.
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>>162338631
to be fair it is lower rank
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>Jeanne Alter still missing her NP interlude

Fucking Koyama I swear.
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>>162338647
Diarmuid too. Enkidufag conspiracy theories are getting hilarious.
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>>162338647
>4* garbage that doesn't threaten Scat anyway
Just face it, the moment the game balance was handed into the hands of a waifucuck along with given to a new dev because of Takeuchi's nepotism this game was garbage.

Now for instance there are proper devs who actually love the games they work on and you can see it reflected in them.
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>>162333056
I did spent 30 bucks on this hoe and she came crawling to me. Feels good mang.
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>>162336707

Is there a list of namedropped servants in mats 1 and 2 that weren't in the initial leak?
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>>162338729
Go back to tumblr, SJW. Nobody cares about how under-represented homosexuals are in F/GO
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>>162338639
Released together, in pairs as far as lore goes, both being AOE jack-of-all-trades and somehow only one of them got an NP interlude.
really fires up those ganglions
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Can't you people enjoy Enkidu without worrying about gameplay?
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>>162338639
>If Arjuna has an upgrade Karna should get one too!
Karnafags including Nasu in a nutshell since 1000 B.C.
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>>162338653
Im the anon you're replying to and I'm an Enkidufag. I just didn't think it would devolve into this. It's kind of hilarious.
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>>162338626
>Bryn has better team support
True

>survivability than Enkidu with her skills
Nah, his heal is absolutely better than hers

>being able to BBC compensates for the damage
True enough.

>and Beloved trait allows her to NP harder than him
Enkidu will always has consistent 20% damage down to everyone before the damage compared to Bryn's Beloved trait to a select few, I'd honestly take Enkidu's brand of NP any day.
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Why Scat is one of the worst AoE Assassin if Koyama involved in game balance
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>>162338691
Is this the new meme now? Koyama boogieman?
>I didn't roll the servant I want fucking Koyama
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>>162338779
I am. I don't really care about his gameplay, he is fine and I am looking at his fanart on twitter.
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>>162338647
Nobody even knows he exists. Nor would anyone ever care to whale for him.
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>>162338830
>freebie that doesn't make money
>limited that does make money
really makes you think
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>>162338783
Karna is a shit anyway. He has no appeal and is a shitty draw. He and Arjuna both failed to make any cash during their brief time as limited Servants and people want to complain about an actual popular Servant who does make money.

Don't blame DW or Koyama. Blame the nips for not liking your disgusting curry boy or the gay clay.
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>>162338830
Shut the fuck up, anon. I like the "Fuck Koyama" meme.
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>King Hassan shows up in Babylon

He's cool and all but HOW THE FUCK
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>>162338817
NP damage down is a lot more valuable than a heal when it comes to survivability.
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>>162338868
Karnas gacha was one of the biggest moneymakers of FGO what the fuck are you on about?
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>>162333329
Still gotta ascend Enkidu since I barely got him.
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>>162338838
Koyama is shaping up like Takeuchi, but in different way. Takeuchi spreads cancerface, while Koyama is a statwaifufag.
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>>162338647
Lancer Alter, Fionn, Diarmuid and Hector all have NP interludes.
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>>162338783
>both included side by side with each other in nearly everything they're in, only alone in the Da Vinci and Swimsuit events
>both released at the exact same time
>both AOE NPs that were underwhelming at launch
>both get interludes at the same time
>Arjuna's is NP, Karna's is quartz

I'd chalk it up to Karna being able to BBC, but even then that's not going to be possible all the time, and the fact that there hasn't been a single 5* Lancer bar Scathach to get an NP interlude is a little strange.
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>>162338454
there was some twitter bullshit explaining that it has to do with DW and koyama
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>>162338830
>Welfare
What could it be?
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>>162338898
Also would like to point out in my experience with the horde of 11 180k beasts enemies in one stage he was my MVP
with him triggering his instakill everytime he NPs and 4 times through normal attacks+debuff
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>>162338924
You poor deluded, faggot. Look, just because you want to suck curry cock doesn't mean the rest of the world does.

I knew it was a mistake to let gays in here. They'd eventually turn full SJW and shitpost up the threads.
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>>162338932
Is Jack good anon? I got her when I rolled Enkidu as well.
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>the beast class skill is anti-humanity

Primate Murder is a Beast?
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>>162338898
Nobody's quite able to tell if he's actually Ziusudra or if he's just dressed up like Ziusudra for convenience.
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>>162338647
Meant to reply to this>>162338561
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>>162338868
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>>162338989
>>162338653
Settle down there mate, not everything is SJW boogeyman
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>>162338989
Oh okay you're just baiting. Carry on.
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>>162338998
Probably, despite what the one guy whose family was murdered by Tsukihime would like you to think.
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>>162338989
you're the cancer which turns /pol/acks to boogeyman in comfy threads.
back to reddit you go
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>almost 2017
>still replying to alt-right trolls
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>Nega Genesis: A
>A skill similar to Beast VI's Nega Messiah.

what
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>>162333329
Need Archer Herc and Dantes and I got pretty much everything I wanted, until a caster and assassin I like come out
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>>162339071
Nah, you can go back and cry in a corner, Shillary cuck.
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>>162338990
Yes, she's the best Assassin.
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Yarimashta.
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>>162339027
Not everything is Koyama boogeyman

Enkidu isn't the best lancer. So what. If you like him then it shouldn't matter. You have a bunch of people who use the Servants they like wanting to suddenly be gameplayfags too and get huffy because their favorite Servant isn't also the top of the Nips List.
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>>162338998
No. The seven Beasts are the evils of humanity, the deepest sins. Born of civilization and destroyers of civilization. Tiamat (Beast II) is Regression. Its evil seems to be in denying the future and never progressing forward.

Primate Murder is nothing born of humanity. It is made by the inhuman counter force, Gaia, and while it was given the Authority to murder all primates, it has never been activated. All the Beasts want to do is exterminate humanity.
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>>162339151
I didn't say anything about koyama though
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>>162339092
>Nega Messiah
Is Beast VI the antichrist?
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>>162339071
tumblr has invaded /fgog/ and started attacking the top female characters

I knew it was only a matter of time
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I think no servant post-America except Nito have gotten an NP interlude right?
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>>162339135
Lurk more before you call yourself a meme war veteran, the god emperor didn't rise to power because of the likes of you.
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>>162339146
Omedetou.
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>>162338990
You got the best Assassin, yes she's good.
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>>162339194
Not that anon, but I think he's speaking about the current state of the thread in general and not just replying to you.
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>>162339002
Cain theory guy doesnt seem all that crazy now
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>>162332505
When was this said?
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>>162339151
Not that anon but ir isn't really a matter of it being Koyama or not. He might not be behind anything at all.

This doesn't change the fact that every gold Lancer is really inferior to Scat. They're average units and have their uses but Scat is so above them. Whether it's Koyama or not is irrelevant but what is, is how long it's been since any 5* Lancer got an interlude to buff themselves up.
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>>162339213
Yes, they've practically phased out interludes in general.
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>>162339158
>The seven Beasts are the evils of humanity

Gilgamesh says that "Evils of Man" (人類悪) means "evils that are to be defeated by mankind"

>Regression

回帰 from the profile? That seems to be referring to her desire to birth a new form of life, and the reason for her class.
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>>162339260
Jack hasn't been surpassed as top Assassin in over a year now.

Who's responsible for that conspiracy?
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>>162338990
She's better than Scat.
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>>162338559
>>162338547
>lower NP damage
>lower ATK
>skills has too many demerit
Tamamo is worse.
Enkidu is about equal to Bryn.
Enkidu does have higher NP damage on more situation though.

>>162338905
>tfw her NP down could've been good if it's 50%.
30% is too low, at least the crit down is pretty solid.
If they buffed it to 50% and make her NP overcharge into anti-male, she would be pretty good.
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>>162339092
>>162339197
I'm betting Antichrist/False Prophet.
As Nega Genesis denies people of proper history (no evolution), I'm betting Nega Messiah is its counterpart that denies people of divine/mythical history (no other gods but me).
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>>162339335
Koyama is behind this
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>>162339325
>they've practically phased out interludes in general.
Nice meme.
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>>162339335
Lolicons
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>>162339323
see >>162339335

Same case. All gold Assassins are equally mediocre compared to Jack with the closest opponent being a free 4*.

Look at Drake. How long was she the top Rider? And even now, some still argue that she's the best in spite of Ozzy and now Quetz giving her a run for her money.
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>>162339239
I'll probably get Kiyo to 90 and then save my grails for a future Honnouji Pt. 2
Gonna 10/10/10 her once we got talons again, she's barely 8/8/10 right now.
Whenever that's gonna happen
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>>162339421
How many 5* assassin's are there?
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>>162339331
When Ziusudra/Hassan addresses Tiamat, he calls her "Beast of disaster, evil born by humanity" though.
>回帰 from the profile? That seems to be referring to her desire to birth a new form of life, and the reason for her class.
It can also mean recurrence I guess. But I thought it was her reason for destroying humanity, as she sees them as alien and wants to make new life instead of allowing old life to prosper, i.e. going backwards.
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>>162339213
Amakusa.

>>162339335
The gap between Jack and other 5* Assassins isn't as large as the gap between Scat and other 5* Lancers. There are situations in which it's better to bring other Assassins, there's no situation in which it's better to bring any 5* Lancer but Scathach.
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>>162339335
I like where this is going.
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>>162338756
Not as far as I know. The thing is, only bits and pieces of mats have been translated and no one's been autistic enough to note every Servants that's been namedropped throughout all of the mats.
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>>162336254
Fastest... in THAT holy grail war.
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>>162338073
Game is shutting down soon, no more need for this.
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Is Gil a high-functioning alcoholic?
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>>162339146
>so shit she broke the game
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>>162339471
Right before that the profile also says that she wants to return to being a mother.
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>>162339470
Four. Jackie, MHX, Shuten, and Cleo.

Five if you want to count King Hassan despite him not being available.
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>>162339498
>in THAT holy grail war
nice headcanon
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>>162339550
I'd make her a mother.
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>>162339470
MHX, Shuten and Cleo.

MHX is too focused on being anti-Saber, Shuten's good but is focused on being a debuffer, and Cleo has some pretty iffy skills despite being pretty good.

Also, they're all limited edition.
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>>162339572
Settle down, Oedipus.
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>>162339474
The same could be said of Waver for Casters
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>>162339606
You can't tell me what to do. I'd fuck Tiamat given the chance.
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>>162339617
Tamamo has her arts niche, Merlin may be coming soon to take his throne.
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Someone should actually check this site now that Lancerfags are pissed.
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>>162339617
Waver has Merlin now, and Waver is only so good now because he ended up getting buffed due to massive fan outcry. That's a whole different situation to Scathach and the other Lancers.
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So the Lancer enemies in Babylon are the citizens of Babylon corrupted by Tiamat's mud? Is that right?

And later on you fight the monsters straight out of her womb?

Did I get that right? Sounds pretty fucking horrific desu.
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>>162339663
>his
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>>162339639
Get in the line.
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>>162338561
Isn't Scathach's gimmick Anti-Divine?
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>>162339735
Waver
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>>162339589
I think giving MHX an NP damage buff on her third skill would be excellent for her.

It would make her decent outside of her niche (though not as good as Jackie) while also giving her a decisive leg up on Jackie within her niche rather than a very slight one that is probably negated by Jackie's hidden attribute if the enemy is weak to it.
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You know, complaining here won't change anything.
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>>162339764
Anti-Divine/Anti-Undead. And maybe it's meant to be her gimmick, but her first and second skills as well as her NP mean she's better even against non-divine.
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>>162339818
t. koyama
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>>162339815
>STILL being mad enough about something that happened over 24 hours ago that you break out the copypasta
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>>162339775
>his
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>>162339764
That's more of a bonus, her NP only has guaranteed stun and instant kill to mooks which make none of the other Lancers can compare. Also her skills give her bonus to Divine and Ghost making her the only Lancer with two type coverage.
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Who is to blame for Waver conspiracy?
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>>162339867
>defending tripfags
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>>162339705
She's the mother of life and primordial chaos. Even in myth she gave birth to a ton of horrible monsters after getting really pissed at the guys who killed her husband.
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Gilgamesh says that they've done well even with 500 survivors after Tiamat shows up, when he'd previously looked into the future there were no survivors aside from him.

>aside from him
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>>162339701
How is it different? It's the same thing. You have a very popular character that people are willing to pay a ton of money for and she's the best Lancer in the game. She's a limited, so people have to make do with weaker Lancer units and if they like them then it shouldn't matter.

It isn't some insane conspiracy, it's just the simple fact that Scathach is one of the best units in the game and just as broken as Waver, Kintoki, Jannu Alter, Okita, or Jack. They're all just the top of the respective classes.
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>>162339893
What the fuck are you on about? The guy's been around for a couple weeks and that makes it easier to browse the archive for TLs.
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>>162339992
>>162339952
At this point I'm beginning to consider that "fuck off" posting back then wasn't that bad.
Also fuck off.
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>>162339926
What does that mean?
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http://graoda.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-747.html
So heres the link that led to the whole Koyama conspiracy.
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>>162339952
>>162339992
Pasta-spewing newfags should actually read their pasta before they start to post it, or they should spend some time in threads with ACTUAL tripfags and not just people that occasionally use tripcodes to post relevant shit.
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>>162339989
>defending tripfags ever
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>>162340045
>defending tripfags
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ITT: BTFO Lancerfags demanding that either Scat be nerfed, Koyama be killed, or Karna and gay clay buffed so their favorites can be at the top of the Nips List
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>>162340046
>>162340075
Lurk moar, newshit. Lurk until you learn the difference between a tripfag and a tripfriend.
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>>162340039
What do the nips think about this?
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>>162339992
>>162339952
>you should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post you're making
>unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post you're making
>vital to the post you're making

Lurk more, newfags. The trip is to make it easier to find translations.
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>>162340104
>tripfriend
No such thing.
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Every servant should have a NP interlude by default. Also the Koyama meme is fine, since me playing the long game might pay off thanks to meme magic.
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>>162339360
Tamamo can charge her NP easily
Tamamo can NPBBC
>lower ATK
> 10726 vs 10780
Such a big deal
Tamamo overchagre effect in her NP allows her to deal more damage to Archer since most of them are male
Tamamo has an invulnerability instead of a meme heal on a 10 turn CD at level 10
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Gilgamesh notes that Roman isn't up and tells you that when you were told that fixing singularities means everything that happened there goes away is bullshit. Lost lives don't come back. History is changed so that the story fits- Someone killed by a dragon due to the Solomon's meddling just ends up killed by an animal or something instead. But on the other hand, lives that were really saved remain saved.
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>Merlin: Hm. We delayed her with two goddesses. Made a hole to the Underworld using Uruk as bait. Restrained her with the Chain of Heaven, inflicted the punishment of the Underworld, and made flowers which are merely beautiful. Gudao, and you heroic spirits. You truly did much to get where you are now. But it isn’t enough. It still doesn’t know fear. It doesn’t know its natural enemy. It doesn’t know the death which is him.
>Mashu: Him? Is there someone else who can help us?
>Merlin: Indeed there is. A very important person. Well then, just whom was he called by? It wasn’t by King Gilgamesh. Nor was it by the Grail of the King of Magic. Need I say it. It was by you, Gudao. He said he would throw away his Grand rank in gratitude to you. And the foe is an enemy of humanity, a Beast. The conditions by which he could appear in this land had been in place from the start! Your battle, all of it, had meaning.
>Dr. Roman: …Could it be? The reason why Gudao’s bioreadings disappeared in the underworld before was because…
>Merlin: That’s right. Now behold the sky, o primordial sea! For that is where your grim reaper stands!
>Ziusdra: …There cannot be life without death, and it is because there is death that there can be life. The eternity thou claims is not progress but slumber. Beast of disaster, evil born by humanity. The love that brought thee to seek regression is what casted thee aside.
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>>162339948
It's different because he was made broken due to fan outcry. When he came out, he was mediocre, and the fans hated that so much that they changed it so he's turned out to be the best 5* Caster. And even then, with Merlin on the way, he at least has competition now.

Scathach was completely new, and there was no need for fans to get her kit powered up. She started out strong but not broken, and only got better from there. Comparing her to the top tiers from other classes shows that she's not even that broken a Servant, she's just the best the Lancer class has to offer, because every other 5* Lancer since her has been mediocre. None of them but her have an NP interlude, all of their skills and NPs pale in comparison to hers, and on top of that she's limited. Between her popularity and usefulness, it's fairly clear they're keeping her gachas for whenever someone needs to make a quick buck at Delightworks, and part of that means keeping the other 5* Lancers below her in usability.
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>>162340112
If this was such a big ruse,then DW would just exluded Koyama long ago and Enkidu will turn out good
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>>162340129
>>162340104
>>162340045
Shut the fuck up and just report.
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First conspiracy theorists, then SJWs, and now newfags

This thread is spiraling into shit after it started out so cozy
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>>162340028
I hope she wouldn't forget about her micro bikini in next year.
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>>162340154
>Ziusdra: I need not the rank of Grand, but in my blade now dwells the proof of the strongest.
>Old Man of the Mountain: Thou may be a god that has fallen to a beast, but thou art still the primordial mother, so I must reveal my name. From the abyss of the ethereal valley, I came to deliver the dark death. I am the old man of the mountain, Hasan Sabbah. The Evening Bell has called thy name. Let those wings be deprived from you under the mandate of heaven!
>Dr. Roman: The pattern of the Beast's spiritual foundation has changed… Incredible…he didn’t just cut off Tiamat’s wing, he even added the “concept of death”!

So yeah he is a Grand but he discarded his Grand status just to help you and give Tiamat a concept of death.
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>>162340154
>Need I say it. It was by you, Gudao. He said he would throw away his Grand rank in gratitude to you.
They're just fucking with us now
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>Merlin: Hm. We delayed her with two goddesses. Made a hole to the Underworld using Uruk as bait. Restrained her with the Chain of Heaven, inflicted the punishment of the Underworld, and made flowers which are merely beautiful. Gudao, and you heroic spirits. You truly did much to get where you are now. But it isn’t enough. It still doesn’t know fear. It doesn’t know its natural enemy. It doesn’t know the death which is him.

>Mashu: Him? Is there someone else who can help us?

>Merlin: Indeed there is. A very important person. Well then, just whom was he called by? It wasn’t by King Gilgamesh. Nor was it by the Grail of the King of Magic. Need I say it. It was by you, Gudao. He said he would throw away his Grand rank in gratitude to you. And the foe is an enemy of humanity, a Beast. The conditions by which he could appear in this land had been in place from the start! Your battle, all of it, had meaning.

>Dr. Roman: Could it be? The reason why Gudao’s bioreadings disappeared in the underworld before was because-
Merlin: That’s right. Now behold the sky, o primordial sea! For that is where your grim reaper stands!
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>>162340152
How do events fit into that then? Did the KnK and Zero events happen then?
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tfw Ana transformed into Gorgon in order to save you and pretended to be evil Gorgon because she didn't want you to see her true form.
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>>162340112
I can't read nip so I have no clue.
Someone should at least summarize though so this ongoing debate and Lancer conspiracy can get some more clarity.
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>tfw already finished with Babylon

nice """""""""order"""""""" DW
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>>162340180
>overworked, newbie company booting a well known artist out of a series he's been doing for years
They won't have the balls to do that.
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>>162340154
>It wasn’t by King Gilgamesh. Nor was it by the Grail of the King of Magic. Need I say it. It was by you, Gudao. He said he would throw away his Grand rank in gratitude to you. And the foe is an enemy of humanity, a Beast.
How much of a best boy can this guy be?
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>>162340154
>>162340231
>>162340238
Kek, looks like I was too late
Should have updated the thread
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>>162340231
OLD MAN
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>>162340221
Nobody has said anything remotely SJW what the hell are you talking about?
>semifag
That explains it.
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>>162340154
>>162340231
Why does King Hassan discard his Grand status ?
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>>162340152
So basically all of humanity is still dead now?
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>>162339952
>>162339992
>but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation
It's to mark him as one of the sorta-translators you fucking newfags
It clarifies that "this was part of the story that you EOPs can't read" without prefacing each post with "So I'm reading the story of Babylonia and..."
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>>162340243
So, the white Gorgon Medusa that appears later isn't the same Gorgon Medusa as before but Ana transformed instead?
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>>162340170
Even if that were true, what's wrong with it? DW making money is why this game is going to keep going after the final battle and why we get to keep playing it.

It's like Hulk Hogan. Sure he was an egomaniac and made to look strong and promoted as the best wrestler in the world in spite of obviously limited talent, but he was a draw and he made so much money that not many guys actually complained because they were getting that paycheck.

The ends justify the means if you ask me.

But that's only IF your conspiracy theory is true. And it's far more likely that these Lancers are just mediocre by design and that buffing them isn't a priority right now since most people are either fine with them or using a support Scat when necessary.
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>>162340350
It was making him unable to help directly apparently. Maybe something related to the singularities or Solomon.
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>>162339992
>deleted
Based mods.
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>>162340152
>Kayneth is alive
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>>162340231
This whole sequence, as /tv/ would say, is pure Kino. They better not butcher it in the animu
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>>162340393
In terms of pure business practice, nothing is wrong with it. But if that blog thing is true and it's Koyama who pushed so hard for Scathach to be the best, then it's not pure business practices that are making this happen, it's one guy wanting the character he designed to be the best and crippling her entire Class because of it.
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>>162340435
>pure Kino.
I don't understand.
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>>162340393
The real problem here is that Enkidufags and Karnafags want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to use the characters they like and still have them be perfect 10s in gameplay. So they complain and say "Scat's too stronk" and demand they get buffed to surpass her.
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>>162340231
>>162340154
So who's saving up for King Hassan now?
Because I sure as fuck am.
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>>162340574
>saving for reddit servant
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>>162340243
But why the fuck is she called Ana?
Fuck off with 'because le anal xddd
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>>162340262
At the moment quite a few nips think that Scat is receiving some bias, though they're more cynical about it being for the money. There are comments of that nature on Enkidu pages in their wikis where they shitpost and call him trash.

Remember that the outrage over Koyama's Scat comments was a nip thing after all, they haven't forgotten.
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>>162340503
Scathach is the most popular female character outside of the Saberfaces. She makes tons of cash every time she's in the gacha.

That's just some fag assuming that Koyama is playing favorites when the actual reason is far more practical.
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>>162340574
All 60 of my quartz are reserved for him.
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>>162340563
Is Scat so terrible that a simple NP interlude upgrade on Karna or a skill buff to Presence Detection would make either of them surpass her?
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>>162340574
He and Merlin will probably be nerfed on release.
You can bet he won't have that 5% chance of insta-kill ability as a "regular" assassin anyway.
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>>162340530
Kino is /tv/'s quality meme.
Some guy posted a "diagram" of generally bogus cinematographic terminology (e.g. "flick" means "bad movie", "cinema" means "good movie") and the most 'artistic' and 'refined' stuff was listed as "kinography"
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>>162340149
I was comparing Tamamo with Bryn, not with Enkidu.
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>>162340608
That's how she is called in the chapter retard.
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>>162340574
Me. I hope he has his own gacha, and not thrown in the same one with Merlin or Solomon or Avenger Matthew or whatever else.
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>>162340654
Maybe not the 5% but the whole rest of their kits will remain intact.
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>>162340391
Yes. She acted like black Gorgon (Tiamad) after saving you but it was hinted after we leave her and run off that she was Ana.
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>>162340503
Because some anon's conspiracy theory says that favoritism and nepotism is the reason behind Scat's place at the top when she's proven to be extremely popular and a major draw.
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>>162340631
Those are Jeanne Alter and Mashu. Scat is always third place in the new FGO females polls japs do.
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So can Grands not fight Beasts if King Hassan had to abandon being a Grand to fight it?
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>>162340391
Yeah, that one was killed by Ana. Tiamat wouldn't have awoken otherwise.
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>>162340654
I think King Hassan is about Jeanne Alter tier right now, so there should be little reason to nerf him for being too broken. Merlin on the other hand...
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>>162340704
>Jannu Alter
>Saberface

You fucked up, son
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>>162340672
I can tell that you imbecile, I want to know why they nicknamed her Ana when Medusa has nothing to do with it.
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Who is Ana?
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>>162340704
What about male characters?
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>>162340608
nigga it has no meaning. she doesn't want to be called medusa or gorgon, so she got another name. maybe she chose the name, maybe someone gave it to her, the fucking point is the same. It has no meaning.
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>>162340717
>>162340693
Makes me want to roll for her, what personality is the one summoned as avenger?
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>>162340702
And if that's wrong, they're intentionally releasing shitty Lancers to keep a middling unit as the best Lancer because of money, which is still crippling the entire class. That's only bad if you're a Lancerfag though.
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>>162340704
That only further proves the point. She's third only to a free Servant and the strongest Servant from the rarest available class. She draws tons of cash so of course it makes sense to keep her at the top in terms of gameplay as well.
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>>162340739
I would put him lower than Jeanne Alter.
>ATK lower than 12k at level 90
>0.9 class modifier on top of that
>First skill is just guts

Would still dump all of my quartz for him.
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>>162340624
So even the nips are upset about this and are drawing a connection ?
Seriously, regardless if people are blowing the Koyama conspiracy out of proportion, you can't deny that people are upset about this and that DW should probably buff some of their other Lancers. Nobody so far has asked for Enkisu, Karna, Bryn, or the rest to be better than Scat just for a buff.
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>>162340350
So he could be summoned by Guda(k)o to help, he couldn't have been summoned if he was a Grand.
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Why would they nerf King Hassan when he comes out? When I used him as a support he was just ok, Jack is still better.
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>>162340762
The chuuni loli with the dog collar.
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>>162340819
To be fair it's a guts which can give him back a huge chunk of health on death. Still just guts but a decent variation of it.
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>>162340654
It's actually quite underwhelming compared to David who even has a stronger version of it with his Bond CE being a 10%.
The difference is as an assassin built around death itself, he has the kit and debuff to make it viable.
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>>162340631
>>162340814
Still one thing is being popular in a mobage and other being actually popular. I doubt Scat would do that well in an actual TYPE-MOON character poll.
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>>162340819
He seems more versatile and has more utility, the one thing that worries me is his cards, and therefore what his soft stats will be and general usability.
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>>162340820
The "conspiracy" theory more prevalent in nip boards is more along the lines of needing to keep their money maker popular and the best gameplay-wise rather than anything to do Koyama.

But he gets trotted out once in a while.

Kinda like what this general has been doing the past day, actually.
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>>162340752
Gee, I wonder why Medusa, who doesn't want to be recognised as Medusa, might have chosen a name that has nothing to do with Medusa.

>>162340563
>>162340653
I haven't seen anyone ask that they surpass her, just that they get some kind of buff. Anyone who thinks any of the AOE 5* Lancers are going to be better than Scathach is insane, and the two single target 5* Lancers are pretty much never going to be better than her anyway, and no buff they get is going to make them better than Scathach. They just want the divide lessened, even the nips are mad about that.
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>>162340893
>popularity polls for the actual game that she appears in don't count

I don't even
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>>162340885
Wew. Just looked this up. Are some Bond CEs being so much better than others Koyama's doing?
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>>162340893
When's the next anniversary poll, anyway?
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>>162339137
>>162339260
Sweet, thanks. I have all her materials so she should be max level on Monday unless I have to stuff to do.

Enkidu needs more farming but I will stop for now.
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>>162340927
All because Enkidu wasn't the ultimate Lancer to surpass Scathach
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>>162340693
What a cutie.
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>>162340961
There will be more people voting, and in a poll with limited choices people will always vote to characters they like based on the stories they know and they personalities, and that's something detrimental to Scat as her main draw is her design and her gameplay in a mobage.
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Moses with his punch beams when?
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>>162340770
That's harder to measure, but probably the Nobunaga guys.
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>>162341086
In the Egyptian where he will team up with Ozzy to fight another Beast and save both, jews and egyptians.
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>>162340927
>needing to keep their money maker popular and the best gameplay-wise
When I see Saber herself has never actually gotten any kind of buff since the start of the game, I honestly doubt that
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>>162340770
Arjuna Dantes and Kintoki
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>>162341043
She's an Aokoface. It doesn't matter if she's a deaf mute, nips will adore her no matter what she's appearing in.

Because she's appearing in a mobage where story is limited, her personality is also limited. There isn't much room for character development. She'd obviously have more depth to her in a proper Type-Moon work or Grail War appearance.
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>>162341027
None of the Enkidufags ever stated they wanted him to be better than Scat.
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Huh.

Roman says that Chaldea has decided to name the black mud "Chaos Tide".

Previously, Kingu had told Ushiwakamaru while she was captured that Solomon had named the black mud "Chaos Tide".
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>>162341143
The fact that Arturia isn't a broken limited Servant has always surprised me.

Probably because she'll have an insanely broken Grand Saber form that really is limited.>>162341196
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>>162340814
He is talking about new characters only though, add the ones we already know and she is even lower.
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>>162341160
She is not really an Aokoface, that's just a meme. She is just a Koyamaface as Koyama tends to do a lot of samefaces.
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>>162341204
Roman has connections to Solomon?
No way. I always trusted that man.
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>>162341196
It would certainly be nice if they at least tried making gameplay strength correspond with lore though. But I've given up on that ever since Okita.
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>yfw when you realize Merlin is the Flower Magus
because flowers are hermaphroditic and he gave Arturia a dick
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I AM FREEEEEEEEEE
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>>162341235
Roman is the real Solomon helping you while the evil one is created by something more evil.
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>>162341247
Yes, because the reason this mobage is so popular is because of it's historical accuracy.
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>>162341249
>because flowers are hermaphroditic and he gave Arturia a dick
Anon, that doesn't make sense.
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>>162341160
Looks can only take you a little far in a character poll. Even actual characters are fucked by the limited choice that polls have. Once the nip is forced to choose between Scat or another waifu or hasbando he knows better, he will choose the latter.
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>>162341318
I was referring to Fate lore, but thank you for echoing my sentiments.
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>>162341196
It's funny that they didn't jump on the conspiracy theory and start taking shots at Scat until after Enkidu was released and turned out to be trash.

So much for "I don't care. I want him because I like him."
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I wonder how the final chapter will work for people who do it after the raid. I guess the raid could just be annoying timelocked roadblock bosses that prevent us from proceeding and the final version just has the final regular boss node as the only boss.
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>>162341325
>flowers are hermaphroditic
>the magus of flowers
>used magic to make a hermaphrodite

what doesnt make sense
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I wish they'd put Da Vinci CE back in the prism store. How naive I was thinking the benefit is absolutely outrageous for the cost and only buying one trophy copy.
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>>162341235
>>162341310
Nah, anons, just a coincidence.
Never mind the fanboying he had for Solomon. Or the fact Romani spontaneously appeared around the time of the last grail war. Or the fact that Solomon only has 9 of his 10 golden rings and Roman happens to also have a golden ring from a "failed marriage".
Romani is just a doctor who knows a lot of history and stuff. Nothing to see here.
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>>162341281
How do people even get this many Prisms?

Are the store CE's made to boost the prisms you get or something? I never really bothered to learn what they do...
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>>162341384
I still think it's outrageous. I get most of my QP from fixed event rewards anyway.
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>>162341364
>So much for "I don't care. I want him because I like him."
No anon.
They rolled him because they liked him and they care because they like him.
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Where were you when scatfags vs clayfags/curryfags became the new hotness in shitposting?
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>>162341449
Hands
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>>162341449
Events for the most part. Almost every event has around 500-1000 prisms. Some even more. Other than that burning 3* exp.
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>>162341481
Because conspiracy theories are fun.
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>people complained that Enkidu was a fake
>more facts come in
>turns out Kingu-as-Enkidu is really good and is a lot better than just seeing Enkidu and Gil be pals
Who would've thought?
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>>162341473
Why? Outside of being Gil's butt buddy, he doesn't really have anything going for him.

>>162341481
There are also a few Lancer Arturia fags whining too
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>>162341481
>nobody remembers the Brynfags/Artoriafags

feelsbad
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>>162341462
That doesn't even begin to cover it when you start maxing more than one servant's skills.
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>>162341565
The CE wouldn't help much either. I'd rather spend my efforts farming actual QP or bond. But that's just me.
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>>162341547
>it's always the Scatfags vs the malefags
>none of them saying anything about the other waifufags
really makes you think
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>>162341547
>Artoriafags
I feel bad for her, she got the spotlight taken from her by Jeanne and Jeanne Alter.
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>>162341547
Oh yeah. I keep forgetting that Bryn exists.

If you ask me, Brynfags should be more pissed about the fact that it two months it will have been a year since she appeared in a gacha.
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>>162341605
>20% extra QP per run
>no difference
Sure, anon.

>actual qp
What does this even mean? Is the QP in the QP dailies fake?
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>>162341536
I definitely wouldn't say it's "better" but I will admit I like Kingu and want him to be an alter servant in the future.
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So seeing that bond will apparently be important for whatever upcoming Solomon thing is going on, what's the generally accepted bond farming strategy and do the new Babylon free quests change anything?
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>>162341625
>nobody remembers Okitafags vs Scatfags.
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>>162341449
Events.
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>>162341629
She's still gonna wind up as Grand Saber. Anyone who believes or suggests anyone else is only fooling themselves.
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>>162341625
Bryn and Arturia were mentioned pretty often in this whole Koyama fiasco.

>>162341659
You'd have to farm 30ap hands instead of 40ap QP to get that CE.
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Do you think Grand servants will be heavily nerfed for gameplay purposes or given their own special category where it's barely possible to roll them?
Also when do you expect the first order of Season 2?
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>>162341481
But i'm a Karnafag while simultaneously being an Artoriafag mainly because lancer arthuria is the only 5* lancer i have
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>>162341684
That's old news, I mean in the current discussion.
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>>162335391
isn't she technically everything's mother? That's sick anon.
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All this debating for over an hour now and we've concluded nothing.
On the bright side, we did conclude that Enkidu isn't anywhere as bad as /fgog/ made him out to be, just average. Cheers. Can we move on now?
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>>162341734
I think a big part of this is because certain people don't have Scathach

>"Fuck Scathach! She's Koyama's favorite! Nerf the bitch!"
>they roll Scat in the next limited gacha
>"Scathach is based and you're all just whining. Koyama dindu nuttin."
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>>162341723
>You'd have to farm 30ap hands instead of 40ap QP to get that CE.
What the hell am I even reading?
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>>162341726
Grand Servants as grand won't be rollable, only boss only. I assume that's the gameplay reason why Azazel/King Hassan had to give up his "Grand" title to help you. Hence why Grand Caster Solomon's bio is unlocked.
I'd assume the same thing about the beast class. If Tiamat ever for some reason is rollable it'll be as an avenger.
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Whoa, CasGil's NP makes a shitton of stars if you use his first skill
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>>162341804
You do shit mana prisms? Because I don't have an endless supply of silvers and golds to burn.
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>finished the order a day or 2 ago
>tell people Tiamat can't be summoned
>retard EOPs thought they could summon Tiamat
>translation posted
>fucking nasu, hack, muh waifu bait
kek
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>>162341824
Who made this bingo? Kotaku?

It has SJW dripping all over it. Who honestly complains about any of this shit in here?
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>>162341449
Mostly from events. I got around 2500 prisms from the last lottery while farming mats.
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>>162341786
>we

>>162341794
I have scat and I shit on koyama, I love this new meme.
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>>162341536
Not better but yes, he was pretty good. I thought I wouldn't like this at first but Nasu surprised me. Hope the guy becomes a servant in the game.
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>>162341854
Have you tried participating in events? Did you start playing this a week ago? I hope you weren't trying to get the Lunchtime CE by burning all your servants.
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Formalcraft or the Miyu CE for Swimsuit Mordred?
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Reminder that Beowulf dropping his swords and making a jojo-reference is on the same tier as Ishtar dropping a planet on you.
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So it seems that the Beasts are not the seven evils that will destroy humanity but the seven evils that humanity ahs to destroy. Humanity sure have a weird check-list of things to do in Nasuverse with this and the Five Magics.
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>>162341684
Why would you compare these two when they're completely different classes and different powerlevels?
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>>162341867
I still don't see why we shouldn't be able to summon her. Translation hasn't changed anything.
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>>162341804
most likely impaired reading comprehension, the anon before were talking about QP efficiency with davinci ce while the other one talks about burning 3* exp cards to get lunchtime sooner.
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>>162341905
Thanks, Koyama is the /fgog/ equivalent to Thanks, Obama
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>>162341927
I don't remember Ishtar actually throwing planets in myth though
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>>162341927
It's not really a planet but a conceptual attack using that and it's anti-mountain.
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>>162341914
Event prisms don't add up to 5k, unless you're forgoing those monthly tickets and whatnot, then sure. But I won't. Hence why I think that CE isn't worth it. Carry on, anon.
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>>162341937
Do you really need it spelled out for you why you can't summon a being whose only goal is to kill all of humanity lorewise, and gameplay wise has either no attacks in one form or is a giant monster in the other?
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>>162341935
Fuck off newfag.
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>>162341905
You're apart of this thread therefore it's "we" whether you like it or not, anon. Our cancer is your cancer.
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>>162341794
I don't even have Scat but this conspiracy is bullshit.
I think mainly because before Enkidufag were like "ENKIDU WILL BE STRONGEST LANCER SCATFAG BTFO"' and get proven wrong
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>>162341935
I like that chick from the gif

I have a huge crush on her
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>Quetz takes half damage from neutral/evil and no damage from good

>Nero Bride's alignment is "bride" so she does full damage
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>162341981
Right. Because that's certainly why I have maxed lunchtime, one copy of davinci and 3000 surplus prisms without ever even touching 30AP hands.
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>>162341449
Farming hands and using lots of apples in the last event.
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I love the smell of shitposting in the morning.
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>>162342006
Because it only checks for good and evil anything else does full damage
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>>162342003
Why can't they just take notes from the Iskandarfags who claimed he would surpass Drake and just disappear into oblivion never to be seen again?
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>>162341929
So be it for the Age of Will.
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>>162341994
>a being whose only goal is to kill all of humanity lorewise, and gameplay (...) is a giant monster

Like Gorgon?

That they made a small form for her (no attacks or not) is suspect, why is that even a thing if it's not teasing her servant form?
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>>162342003
You say that as though this is only happening on /fgog/, the nips are doing the exact same thing.
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>>162342031
Do you get the other shop CEs for collection too?
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>>162342006
Why the fuck does Cleo do full damage?
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>>162341937
She will be available in the gacha after you clear chapter 7. Don't listen to retards because I have proof.
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>>162341994
It's definitely not unheard of for the big bad to be a harem member.
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>>162342070
No. Da vinci was the first one so I wasn't sure what were DWs plans. Lunchtime was the best one in a while so I got that.
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>>162342069
Enkidufags confirmed for the worst fanbase

Just accept that your queer mud is Sumanai Lancer and get over it.
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>>162342125
And there's your answer.
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>Need 2 assassin monuments
>300 AP later
>1 drop
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>>162341890
To be fair, /fgog/ itself is guilty of most of those complaints.
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>>162342162
Answer to what? How Da Vinci CE is not worth it for me because for some insane reason I'd have to farm hands instead of QP daily because you, not me, have no prisms left?
Are you actually autistic?
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>>162342226
>for me

No, anon, for me. Chill.
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>>162342210
Nobody really complains about fanservice or fetishes unless it's fanservice with a character they hate or a fetish that isn't their own.
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>>162342142
Not even close.
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>>162342075
She is Neutral.
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>>162342142
>trying to force this on the enkidufags only again
nice

it's all the other lancerfags saying these things, because of this>>162336787 page
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>>162340574
Why saving up for shitter that will be inferior to Jack anyway?
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Should I roll this Lancer gacha in order to get my first Avenger? Because 1 week waiting seem too long for me.
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>>162342289
Basically all the Lancerfags are really angry.
Enkidu is just what broke the camels back, that and /fgog/ claiming he was shit only to be proven wrong. He's just really underwhelming.
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>did one 10 roll after beating the order
That's nice I guess
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Tiamat cannot die for as long as there is life on Earth, because she is life itself. She is the beginning and end of all life, and therefore can only die when she is the last living thing left. The plan is to drop her into Ereshkigal's domain of the dead where she'll technically be the only living thing which may let them kill her (and yeah, in the age of gods, the underworld is LITERALLY underground).
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>>162342067
>Gorgon is comparable to a beast
You're really going all out aren't you?
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>Koyama incharge of balance
>get sniffed by DW and ended up having his Twitter account locked
>possibly get kicked out because AssScat is mediocre as fuck
>Enkidu still ended up shit
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>>162342439
Congratulations on getting best Babylon girl.
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>>162342445
Oh and someone (I think it was Quetzacoatl) drops the line "not enough an alien could beat that!".
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>>162342487
>DW
>having the balls to kicked out artist that have worked in the series longer than them
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>>162342468
>switching the goalposts
Your argument was
>Only goal is to kill all of mankind
Gorgon's goal is to kill all of mankind. And now we have translations and Tiamat's goal isn't that, she wants to become a mother again stupid EOP.

>She's a giant monster
Like Gorgon, who is already playable. And Tiamat already has a small sprite.
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>>162342487
He's not even bad though.
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>>162342537
"Not enough, an alien could beat that!", or "not even an alien could beat that!"?
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>>162342640
oops

"Not even an alien could beat that"
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>>162342614
>switching the goalposts
>only goal is to kill mankind
I never said that retard.
>>162341867
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>>162342765

>>162341994
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>>162342697
Hey spoiler anon found any hints for the other beasts?
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Do people actually care about Alter Egos?
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I wonder if they'll ever add the ability to replay Orders and their battles. It seems such a waste otherwise that all this content can only be experienced once, particularly for Orders that have a lot of work put in them like Camelot and Babylon, with its changing world maps and music, as well as more unique boss battles.
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Enkidufags you know you are being baited right?
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>>162342830
The only thing I've seen is the Beast VI's Nega Messiah reference.
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>>162342837
I do.
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>>162342798
They represent sins/evils man must overcome and cannot live with totally incompatible with them and why grands are around in the first place.
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>>162342837
I don't they look hideous
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>>162342873
There's always one retard that responds. Guy's been doing this bait for the last 3 hours and still gets replies.
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>>162342837
Only Sakura who doesn't suck is BB
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>>162342837
Sure, the ones that know nip, played CCC and liked the characters.

I do care about Kazudrop actually, but mostly because I love lolis in general and she looks cute.
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>>162342915
So we beat her and she becomes a regular servant.
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>>162342878
Do we know what the Beast of 666 from Prototype's relation is to the I - VII?
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>Golden Drived the boss so hard Kintoki's hair flew away
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>>162342915
anonymous image boards were a mistake
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>>162342873
>calling out Enkidufags as whiners who just want their Servant to be teh strongest is 'bait'

The Enkidufags hypocrisy can be seen ever since we found out Enkidu was a shitter, they've been whining since.
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>>162342873
I'm not going to lie after some of the arguments people have been having these past few days be it lore, Arturia vs. Gilgamesh, whether Cleo is disgusted by Caesars fat ot not etc. It's becoming a little more difficult to tell when someone is actually baiting or genuinely imparied.
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>>162342997
>Camelot
Nigga what are you doing?
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>>162343071
Bond/Chain farming
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>>162335462
Meanwhile Saber got shat on by pretty much everyone in 0 and FSN. (and that includes both assassins, caster, and Sherou)

Berserkers and Archers were just better in most scenarios.
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>>162342997
GOOD NIGHT!
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>>162342873
What's funny is that /fgog/ defended Enkidufags. Called them Enkidufriends. Too bad they showed their true colors the second they realized he was mediocre at best and turned on the game itself, the developers, and anyone they could blame for their "injustice".

Other lancerfags joined in too because they're all equally inferior to Scat
>b-but it's not just us
>all lancerfags are pissed
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Even though I know everything is going to be diejoubu, I can't help being creeped the fuck out seeing Aaaaa getting nearer and nearer
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Forgot to mention: The bandits that attack you on the day before the confrontation with Gorgon are labelled in-battle as Ooeyama bandit remnants, and the boss on the last wave is Mystery Kyoto Denizen X.

stupid ibaraki
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>>162343294
They saw how based Ozzy was and thought Enkidu would follow suit and become one of the best Gold Lancers. Didn't turn out that way, and now they're bitter and resentful.
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I want to marry this beautiful, green one!
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>>162343319
>Mystery Kyoto Denizen X.

Kek
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>>162343294
It's hard being a Scatfriend with all this jealousy flying about.
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>>162343217
Pretty much everyone got shat on in 0 and FSN.

Berserkers especially
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>>162343380
We know Gil.
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But I love all 5 * lancers, except bryn.
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>>162343319
Onis were a mistake
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>>162342997

Tanoshii!
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>>162343380
Which one?
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>>162343294
Really love the "powerlevel equal gameplay" meme.
>h-he is strong lorewise,he should be as strong ingame!
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I want to marry this beautiful dragon!
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>>162343423
Even the Tamamo one?
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>>162343294
>Too bad they showed their true colors the second they realized he was mediocre at best and turned on the game itself, the developers, and anyone they could blame for their "injustice".
Stop baiting already. You're describing this like some sort of witch trial when in reality nobody is actually blowing that out of proportion. I'm an Enkdufag and I'm fine with him, he's been great on my quick buster team.
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>>162343475
Enkidu is one with nature and so am I!
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So that one retard going on for the last 5 hours is melvin, right? Seems pretty similar with the way he argues at least.
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>>162343525
>he's been great on my quick buster team

Right, still trying to pretend he's anything more than mediocre.
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>>162343423
Weird to single her out when Scat exists.
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>>162343478
They shouldn't be pissed about him being beneath shishou. Instead they should focus on the fact that he's a mile below Tamamo in a bikini fighting with an umbrella.
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>>162343572
Probably. If it is, he's shitting all over Enkidu because he's connected to Gilgamesh.
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>>162343585
Quick buster teams are mediocre. Nobody prioritizing gameplay fields Scat with anything other than Waver.
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>>162343521
As a fucktoy to cuck hakuno using command seals, yes.
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>>162343572
Probably, the way he is going on and on about conspiracies that are the 'real' reason why Enkidu is the shitty Lancer that he is is exactly the same.
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>>162343525
Enkidufags just started it. The anti-scatshitters ran with it. Scat and Okita already have a pretty intense hatebase filled with autistic contrarians who despise anything waifu related because people are having fun with it.
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Does anyone know whether any part of Babylon is translated?If so can you show me please?
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>>162343478
Fucking this.
DW never correspond powerlevel ingame since beginning,its retarded to expected it to be the same ingame.
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>>162343618
I'm more miffed about Tamamo's NP having anti-male overcharge damage while Bryn got the Beloved bullshit.
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>>162343572
I would assume so because the replies are written very alike. Melvin has this way of greentexting that just stands out like a sore thumb. Anyhow, let's just let that conspiracy slide.
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>>162343747
Only if you guarantee you won't share it with the rest of the plebs on Reddit.
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>>162343728
The "nobody can actually hate my waifu it must be contrarians!" mindset is one of the many reasons why scat and okita fanbases are cancer.
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>>162341917
Anybody? CEs for best daughteru?
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>>162343747
Kill yourself.
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>>162343659
Hakuno a shit, so he would deserve it, impregnate her hard please.
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>>162343747
We have parts in this very thread.
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>>162343772
They were content to ignore this until it negatively impacted them. They eagerly waited seven chapters for Enkidu and then he wasn't the end-all be-all of Lancers when he was finally revealed.
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>>162343747
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/5hjnvo/recollections_of_babylon_part_zero_prologue/
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>>162343801
Sure
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>>162343862
You absolutely pinky promise?
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>>162343881
Why would i bother sharing to reddit?I just want to know what happens even small snippets will do.
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>>162343807
Contrarianism is autism. The only excuses anyone can ever field for such baseless hate is "le reddit" or "thanks, koyama". If you hate something without a good reason then you're an autistic contrarian.

Not liking something is fine. Going out of your way to let everyone know you hate something for reasons that you don't even understand is a mental illness.
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>>162343842
I'll do my best!
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>>162343941
Acting as if suggestions for better balance = "t-they must hate m-m-muh waifu" is autistic waifuism.
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>After you destroy Femme Fatale, Mashu says that it looked like the restraints that were tying her down were formed by her. Like she was actually binding herself. It's only when team Chaldea destroys her that Pacific Rim happens.
>Roman also says that Femme Fatale was the brain.
Congrats, after she had been freed from an eternity in the empty void to where she was discarded, you lobotomized a goddess who only wanted to be a mother and who was scared out of her mind of all the freakish aliens (that being you) coming at her.
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test
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>>162343728
>Enkidufags just started it. The anti-scatshitters ran with it. Scat and Okita already have a pretty intense hatebase filled with autistic contrarians who despise anything waifu related because people are having fun with it.
It started because me and another Enkidufag were proving Enkidu was actually decent gameplaywise. Someone brought up Koyama then an ankn asked about the whole Koyama thing, I posted the cap of it, and everything went to hell from there when someone asked,
"If Enkidus not the worst 5* Lancer then who is?", all the other Lancerfags jumped on it paranoid that their favorite Lancer would be called shit, and thus it lead to the conclusion that all of them save for Scat are just "meh" tier.
I didn't think posting that would cause this amount of shitposting, baiting, and "enkidufag" "lancerfag" boogeymen. Even worse Melvin seems to have jumped on board.
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>>162343830
Formalcraft. Especially if you have it limit broken. Heaven's Feel is also a good bet since she has quick NP spamming ability.
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>Finally got a Tristan to appear on my support list

Tristan is cute!
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>>162344015
>kill Gorgon
>awaken Tiamat
>kill Femme Fatale
>free Tiamat

What the hell are Chaldea doing in this order, fucking themselves over at every opportunity? You'd expect being guided by two clairvoyants wouldn't result in so much shooting themselves in the foot, but it somehow does.
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>>162344015
The Order was her fault in the first place. No regrets. Would send to hell and kill again.
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>>162344043
Melvin's not here yet. I haven't seen a single Chris Evans reaction image.
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Hey, best girl got fanart
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>>162344062
Why is he wearing a dog collar?
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>>162343929
Alright then. Here.
>>162333295
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>>162344062
He's so rare to find. Good thing I got him.
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>>162344015
Fuck her. I won't feel sorry for killing the pathetic fool. She can get her own damn planet.
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>>162344015
We're humanity, we're going to kill all evil and build spaceships to get off this planet.
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>>162344036
KANEDA!

>>162344015
American self-defence. Kill it before it kills you and think later.
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>>162344015
Why did Tiamat bind/restraint herself?
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>>162344104
Well whoever that is samefagging needs to stop. It's such obvious bait. Obvious but tempting bait.
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>>162344140
I got Tristan, Lancelot, and Lancer Arturia all in separate gachas. I was quite pleased.

And I haven't had a single gold on this account since.
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>>162344015
Seriously Nasu not every villain needs a tragic backstory. It's getting old at this point.
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>>162344112
May i ask whether you have something other than this thread?It sucks to play without understanding anything that's happening.
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>>162344169
*defense
Fuck you too cellphone.
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>>162344245
I was thinking for a second there that you were British.
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>>162344015
All she did wrong was eat Ushi. And it's debatable if that's even wrong really.
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>>162344227
http://pastebin.com/cZcUu5Rt
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>>162344282
There's no need to insult him.
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>Human will extinct in 2017
>FGO anime will be aired on December 31
They plan it from the start, didn't they?
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>>162343997
Blaming a lack of balance on favoritism, nepotism, and an insane conspiracy theory built around one dev = absolute autism
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>>162344292
Oh yeah wanting to kill all of humanity is totally not wrong
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>>162344015
Not posting the translation itself because deadfish didn't want his quick and dirty translations spread around. I think it should be okay if you just keep that in mind, though.


http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/6031-Fate-Grand-Order-Story-and-Lore?p=2555229&viewfull=1#post2555229

It seems as though Brain-chan was feeling extremely miserable before you went and killed her to death.
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>>162344367
Nah. First version of that scene had 2016.
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>>162344407
>one dev
Not even one dev, one character designer
It's even worse
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>>162344015
>a goddess who only wanted to be a mother

Will Tiamat and Raiko get along?
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>>162344367
Yes this was the plot before they even launched the game.
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>>162344427
If we all get to live in Tiamat's tummy then it's not so bad
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>>162344486
But why?
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>>162344282
British write defence and American defense ?
Why's that ? Unlike color it doesn't shorten. It doesn't change the sound either.
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>>162344486
>>162344531
To destroy the oppressors of course.
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>>162344486
OPPRESS THIS
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please be to translate babylon and post please
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>>162344294
Thanks alot!Why wasn't this in the TLs pastebin though?
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>>162344548
Neither does switching 's' to 'z' (memorise) nor swapping the order of 'r' and 'e' (centre)
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>>162344015
>>162344434
She just need a good hug and a dicking
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>>162344610
Too recent, or the bloke who wrote the pastebin hasn't seen it yet, or whatever.
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>>162344610
>>162344601
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/5hjnvo/recollections_of_babylon_part_zero_prologue/
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>>162344452
>one character designer
For the love of god let's not go back to this. It's already been proven that Koyama had some say in characters balance and requested that DW shill Scathach hard. Forget about favoritism, it's a matter of money. Just let this debate die.
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It feels so wrong and so right at the same time.
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>>162344727
>they don't know about the tweets.
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>>162344486
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>Gil's bounce
moe
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So is there anyone else in Chaldea apart from MC, Mashu, Romani and Da Vinci? Did all the other Chaldea employees die or something?
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Hold on
If King Hassan quit grandhood to come help, then who's Grand Assassin right now
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>all of the heavy hitters from other TM works got retconned to being shit

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>162344631
Did americans thought it was too french to be written like that ?
Not cool after being helped by them.
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Anyone have the my room lines for Taiga?

I know she says something about Emiya is familar and makes her sad but she doesn't know why.
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>>162344764
She was created from Cater Gilles' fap dream fantasies. Of course she's his waifu. Jannu Alter fags were cucked from the start in spite all while shitting on Vanilla Jannu for Sieg.
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>>162344807
We don't know if it's permanent or not, he can probably go back whenever he wants.

GRAND ASSASSIN TOHNO SHIKI
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>>162344807
(You)r Servant.
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>>162335853
>Ereshkigal
So why the fuck is that even Ereshkigal got Rin's face? I'm getting sick of this.
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>>162344813
What?
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Do I need to kill 2 million HP tiamat or I just need to stall that one as well?
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>>162344807
Probably no one
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>>162344803
There's a bunch of staff on hand. Not more than 30 active ones IIRC, all the rest are in medpods.
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>>162344912
Stall. You need to kill the 600k hp version.
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>>162344486
This is true love.
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>>162344813
Except for Medea, Kojiro, and Hassan, pretty much all the FSN servants have been wanked a lot in the last few years.
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>>162344803
This muthafucka
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>>162344901
Because she is Ishtar sister and they wanted to make the whole joke about Ishtar and Rin being so similar
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>>162344901
Because she wears it 1000 times better than Ishtar
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>>162344901
Probably Pseudo-Servant Extra Rin.
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>>162344807
Wait, aren't Grands supposed to fight Beasts? Why would he have to quit it to help?
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>>162344938
How come they never appear? Not even as generic faceless mooks like others in the Orders.
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Did someone finished Babylon with bronze ? Seems doable.
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What the hell is this Enkidu-Kingu stuff? Who's Kingu and why is he impersonating Enkidu?
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>>162344901
She is Ishtar's twin sister, duh.
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>>162344610
I've been busy for the past few days and havent had much time to check these threads, I've updated the pastebin for now
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>>162344901
She's stuck in Rin too because the summoning process went stupid
Usually they're in the same body but she can only come out at night when Ishtar's sleeping, unless they're in the underworld because that's her place
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>>162345017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingu
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Slut Servant when?
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>>162345017
>Who's Kingu and why is he impersonating Enkidu?
Son of Tiamat. Which here means he's the first of a "new race of humans" spawned by Tiamat. However, he's been shoved into Enkidu's dead body to try and mislead Gilgamesh and/or be more powerful.
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>>162344938
I'd like to see a sitcom built around the Chaldea office workers and staff. They're just going about their business filing papers and typing up reports and then Servants just bust in and fuck up their shit because they're bored. Then they leave and everyone just tries to get back to work.
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>>162345009
The reason why he gave up is Grand is so Guda could summon him to help out.

Why he had to be summoned by Guda and couldn't just help kill a Beast is still a mystery.
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>>162344486
Fascism is bad.
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>>162345014
They're mentioned here and there, such as in the prologue of Babylon, and they physically stuff you and Mashu into the rayshift pods for Halloween 2016, among other things, but they don't get sprites.

Not sure why.
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>>162344901
When they tried to summon Ishtar, for some reason they also summoned Ereshkigal. Rin got split in half; Good in one, Evil in the other.

Nobody's sure which went to which, but you have the choice of guessing which is which in front of them.
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>>162345038
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>>162345109
>>162345092

Oh my god. All this time I'd been reading it I thought it was one of those goofy nicknames for a character because of the u at the end.
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So was it true that Beast class counters Avenger and is weak to Ruler? Someone said that on release day but I haven't gotten that far myself.
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>>162345116
>So I was trying to fix the printer. I think it's out of toner or something. When fucking Attila the Hun walks in, calls the coffee maker "bad civilization", and hacks it to pieces with her glowstick sword.
>I think she prefers to be called Altera or something.
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>>162345096
Medb and Nero are already here.
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>>162345148
>Rin got split in half; Good in one, Evil in the other.
You mean Bitch in one, Whore in the other
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who /Taiga/ here
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>>162345038
>>162345150
It's a joke on his VA but so fitting for him.This is what perfect casting produces.
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>>162344803
Servants. They even have quarters.
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>>162345180
No. They changed it. Beast isn't weak to anything, not even berserkers.
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>>162345269
Do they spend them at the arcade?

...does Chaldea have an Arcade? I'd expect them to, Servants probably get bored easy.
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okay wait hold up

If King Hassan gives up his Grand status, then who the fuck is the next Grand Assassin?

Or, wait, did he give up his status as Grand Saber instead?
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>>162345116
>Lily being forced to work as a receptionist because Guda never brings her with him
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>>162345316
No, he was Grand Assassin.

As for who's next, who knows?
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>>162345181
>Well she suree seems Alter-ed to me!
>Co-worker does a side glance to the camera from the ridiculous pun.
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>Still 3 weeks until Solomon's temple
Please tell me we'll get an event next week.
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>>162345269
I meant actual employees and not servants. Da Vinci is an exception.
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>>162345180
Beast was strong against cavalry and Alteregos strong agaisnt the other trio
Why do people always get it wrong?
And it doesn't matter now since it was changed anyway
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>>162345316
HOL UP. SO U BE SAYIN WE
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New thread?
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>>162345316
>then who the fuck is the next Grand Assassin?
Couldn't he just take it back up again?
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>>162345313
No, quarters as in-
Oh, anon, you so silly~
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>>162345431
May as well.
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>>162345316
There's nothing that says it was permanent afaik

>>162345390
>3 weeks
It's going to be 2 weeks at the very most

>>162345403
I know how the old ??? Beasts worked. I heard rumours that the official Beast class in Babylon worked differently so I was confirmed if it was true or not.
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>>162345390
>3 weeks
21 anon, not 31
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>>162345316
It's probably vacant now.
>>
So do you think Mother Harlot Nero is going to be the final boss?
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>>162345116
>Lancelot and Gawain competing for the affections of a cute new intern
>Everyone in the office has already fucked Nero, Medb, and Ishtar
>Siegfried is working as a janitor
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>>162344803
The operators in the main command center are still alive, probably, considering Roman can't possibly run the entire base and keep track of you by himself. Emiya mentioned flirting with the operator girls during the Da Vinci event and a bunch of staff stuff you in the ley shift pods for Halloween.

I think the only ones who died were the other Masters Chaldea could field.
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>>162345520
I wouldn't be surprised if they began the raid event as soon as the coming week, if there are a lot of bosses to deal with in his temple.
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>>162345520
>>162345529
That still sucks though, I don't want to spend two weeks farming EXP.
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>>162345601
Shouldn't have rushed through Babylon, then.

I'm in the same boat too, though.
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>>162345316
Simo Häyhä, who else?
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>>162345520
old Beasts call is the ? Solomon Demon class.
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>>162345601
>>162345631
Do the free quests.
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>>162345181
>Dude, it'd never work out.
>Why not? She's a total babe, and that Fujimaru kid never drags her into the singularities anyway
>You are an IT worker who dropped out of college to work on magic robot bullshit, and she is a literal snake demoness who has to walk around blindfolded lest she turn us all into a shitty modern art display. Does that sound compatible to you?
>C'mon, dude, you know I'm a MILF chaser, and her kids are so cute!
>Those are her older sisters, you ponce!
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>>162345579
Nero could never be a villain. She's one of history's most beloved rulers. She dindu nuttin.
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>>162345671
Except have a demon in her.
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>>162345652
They're boring, though. And stuffed to the brim with Riders while I don't have a single good Assassin.
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>>162345652
I only have 2 left and I didn't use a single apple for then.
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>>162345648
Been a while.
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>>162345587
They'd need more time to give more shit players/people who are still half way through the story and don't want to use apples the chance to finish Babylon.
Probably want more than just 10% of active players or so to be able to do the raid. Though I may be severely underestimating how many people could finish Babylon on release.
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>>162335014
Gilgamesh has it at ex rank, he can see all the future. Merlin can see all the present Solomon can see all the past and future.
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>>162345116
>Ishtar, possessing Rin's body, also received her skill in technology and ends up destroying Chaldea power
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>>162345116
That's an actual fanfic somewhere.
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>>162345781
I think that would make it a good idea to start the raid earlier though. People who finish Babylon slower can still join in before it ends on the 31st, and it would give people who've finished Babylon early something to do.

Though I think most of the real whales who'll make up the bulk of the raid damage have probably sped their way through Babylon anyway.
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>>162345878
>Fran has an aneurysm and beats her half to death before fixing shit
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>>162345581
>Gawain
>having to compete with Lancelot for anything

A woman would have to be braindead not to see who the superior knight is
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>>162336085
>can see through all of creation
>uses it to cheat at cards
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>>162345947
It's just believing in the hearts of the cards anon.
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>>162345017
Enkidu's corpse powered with Solomon's grail, Tiamat's doing. He thinks he was supposed to be the next human after she's done with wiping out the current mankind but it turns out she was just using him and her new children try to tear him apart and also rip out Solomon's grail which he was using as a heart.

He still has some of Elkidu's memories and he ends up on the hill where Elkidu first met Gilgamesh to die, but Gilgamesh shows up there and gives him a grail which he uses as a new heart.
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>>162345031
No worries.Thanks for the update!
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>>162344938
>>162344938
>>162345586
There's constant references to other Chaldea staff in dialogue.
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>>162346010
So how does Tiamat's personality work? Is she in full control of Gorgon, or is it like she barely has a self anymore so she sort of just takes on the Gorgon's persona? Her being a super bitch doesn't seem to match with her being totally nuts and just wanting to be a mom again.
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>>162346126
I was under the impression Gorgon was just borrowing Tiamat's power, the real Tiamat doesn't really think much if at all.
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>>162346171
>>162346126
The only real references to her personality I've seen so far (just up to the bit where Gorgon helps out) are both Gorgon and Elkidu (before getting cut off once Tiamat wakes up) hearing her voice, and she's just crying all the time.
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>>162346252

???: ---n’t go---
???: ---Don’t go---
??? .---n’t leave me---
??? ---Don’t leave me---
???: ---Don’t leave me behind again---
è This is…
???: Come back…come back…
Come back to me once more…
??? Once more…once more…
??? No….no…
???: Don’t, don’t ever
???: Don’t love me again
è What was that?
??? It was an original sin. It was one of humanity’s original sins.
???: There are many types of sins. Tricking others. Manipulating others. Being envious of others. Taking lives.
???: All these are the evils that only humanity bears. All these are the poisons that affect only humanity.
???: However, among them is the oldest of evils. The original sin II. The sin of leaving ■ and departing from paradise.
è Yes, but even so…
??? Life was born from the sea. The primordial sea Nammu. The goddess of the beginning Nammu.
???: To humanity, the goddess is the sea itself. The sound of the waves will become calls pronouncing your sin
???: Remember. Don’t forget.
???: This voice is your original sin.
???: This name is your salvation.
???: Its name is
??? Aa, Aa-----Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa----
è It sounds so sad…

We better summon her and make her smile.
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>>162346252
>just up to the bit where Gorgon helps out
Isn't that one Ana anyway?
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>>162345237
Give her a high level CE, she deserves the attack stat.
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>>162346350
This is the dream sequence from the start of chapter 5, right?
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Leonidas is so based.
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>>162346363
He was talking about Tiamat
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>>162346416
This mess confuse me, what are the difference among Gorgon, Ana and Tiamat personality wise?
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So the reason Tiamat clothes are similar to Sakura clothes is because both are made of Imaginary Numbers, right?
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>>162346363
Yes.
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>>162346395
Yeah, as a character he's rock solid
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>>162346565
ayyy
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>>162346350
>Tricking others. Manipulating others. Being envious of others. Taking lives.
Oh my.
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Damn, the part where the Lahmu are chasing down Kingu and taunting him about not being effective against them, not having a Grail, not being able to hear Mother's voice, not being needed, pathetic, poor Kingu.

That's just brutal.
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>>162346565
Kek
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No one ever predicts the final boss of each chapter properly so why bother
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Why didn't Gilgamesh just summon Lancelot? He can see the future so obviously he knows that Lancelot is the greatest knight of all time and more than capable of killing all seven Beasts combined on his own with his A++ unbreakable Arondight that has an EX rank swordbeam as large as the Caspian Sea.
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>>162346543
Sakura's clothing was Avenger's Command Spell so
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>>162346126
From what I understand, she just wants out. When life on Earth had stabilized she was discarded by the world and got sealed with Imaginary Numbers. She's unnecessary to the world. She would just birth new life randomly, but there wasn't a need for her anymore. She felt pretty hurt about that. She wants out so she can start spawning new things. But now the world is populated by a bunch of weirdness she can't recognize and there's also no place left for her or her newborn. She wants to make more offspring at any cost and she wants to get out of the empty space where she's been alone for so long.

That's what I've inferred, anyway. I could be completely mistaken about something.
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>Jack wants a mother
>Tiamat wants to be a mother
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>>162346617
>No one ever predicts properly so why bother
Fixed
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>>162346395

>gets instantly petrified by Medusa without even putting up a fight

What a loser
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>>162346617
To keep the thread alive.
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>King Hassan fanart

Finally
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>>162346678
She's even all womb.
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>>162346517

Well, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but...

Gorgon (Black) -> names herself Tiamat and acts to destroy humanity with a small portion of Tiamat's power, but as far as I can tell is actually just a bitter and vengeful Monster Medusa.

Ana -> Loli Medusa, your friend and ally. Appears to sacrifice herself to take down Gorgon (Black). Later takes the form of Gorgon (White) to assist you in the fight against Tiamat.

Tiamat -> Wants to be a mommy once more. Doesn't really think of anything else.
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>>162346617
Fuyuki, Orleans, Septem and Camelot was easy.
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>>162346750
>The real dark souls starts here.
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>>162346678

>Jack dives right for the giant puffy vulva and climbs in
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Can he do it?
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Caster Benjamin Rush when?
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>>162346617
So who will be the true final boss of Solomon chapter?
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>>162346517
Ana is a quiet child who hates everything inside until she gets out and talks to people more and realizes that she doesn't really hate everything. She eventually becomes the second Gorgon you see who helps you out.
Original Gorgon hates humanity for "taking everything away from her". She wants to destroy Uruk. She does offer to make you her subordinate if you understood her though, but that's neither here nor there.
Tiamat converses only in the song noises, but what can be inferred from her profile is that she wanted to kill everything and everyone that currently exists and revert the world back to where things are only born from her primordial ooze. Those that can "hear" her beyond that are only her children, but the most you get from that is the segment here >>162346350
From what I understand, anyway.
>>
Who the fuck is Kingu?
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>>162346832
Tiamat's Kid, shoved into a same model Enkidu body, killed by Marduk in mythology.
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>>162342837
They're great, fun personalities and something I've wanted in this game for over a year now. Ive been saving up for awhile. Feels like the hate they get is just because it's customary to hate Sakura so they get roped in despite being different characters . Either that or people just getting fixated on the designs and saying no one is allowed to like it because they're not into it.
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>>162346917
It's actually the real Enkidu's body, his corpse.
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>finally finishing HA after a few years
The ending is so fucking cool
I love when you get to see everyone work together in shit
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>>162346779
Correct.
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>>162346779
>>162346829
Thanks, I think I get it now.
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>>162346917
Also her second hursband.
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>>162346814
>def buffs, kouhai alive and NPs charged
yeah probably
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>>162346543
Probably yeah. You even goy to see those black and red things in Medusa Gorgon and even in Extra CCC when BB is using Imagianry Numbers.
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>>162346832
Enkidu died and Tiamat (I believe) put a new soul on Enkidu's corpse. That's Kingu.
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Really feels like most Servants are pretty much irrelevant now with shit like the Beasts floating around. All the American Servants couldn't even handle one demon pillar, let alone an army of them, and now there's Beasts who utterly mock all 72 demon pillars combined in power.

Basically unless you have something as broken as GoB you're completely worthless.
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>>162346814
Dog
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>>162347061
>inb4 powerlevels
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>>162347061
>Basically unless you have something as broken as GoB you're completely worthless.
until the nip memers start clearing the quests with bronze servants only
>>
Babylon is the HF of FGO
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>>162347061
Wasn't Arjuna easily capable of handling the demon pillars that appeared in America with Pashupata if he didn't care about collateral damage?
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>>162347061
Arjuna blew up a shitton of Demon Pillars, though.
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>>162347171
Babylon is not that badly written, anon.
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>>162347160
Leonidas will be back.
Chapter 21 can easily be cleared with bronze
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>>162347190

Yes.

Pashupatastra is only an A++ NP though so it wouldn't even scratch Tiamat who wouldn't even have a concept of death in the first place unless King Hassan happened to show up somehow.
>>
Gilgamesh says that Tiamat doesn't have any will anymore; Upon becoming an Evil of Mankind she ceased being the Tiamat that Ishtar had heard about, and became a system to destroy the world.
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>>162347171
Is it full of cooking scenes?
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>>162347171
>X is the Y of Z

fuck off shitposter
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>>162347061
>All the American Servants couldn't even handle one demon pillar, let alone an army of them
But they killed almost thirty of them? Or do you only count Edison, Geronimo, and Billy? Because I don't think it's fair to expect more out of those guys.
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>>162347171
That was more so Camelot what with Hero of Justice Bedi and his magical arm that gives him power to stand up to his older friend while also slowly eating at his very soul
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>HF sucks meme

when did the general get filled with zerofags
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>>162347306

Geronimo and Billy weren't even at the final battle you retard.

Edison, Tesla, Helena, Beowulf, and Li Shuwen were all there to fight the pillars and all got their shit pushed in by a single pillar.
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Don't waste Mashu's gifts in baits. Happy Anniversary!
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>>162347368
>HF is good meme
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I didn't know that Japanese kana keyboard is Lahmus' language
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>>162347250
as expected of a man with battle continuation
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>>162347389
I like it
>>
So, what's the gameplay verdict on CasGil?
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>>162347389
What happened with the Babylon one? Didn't it get done?
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>>162347436
yeah someone posted about that a couple threads ago
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Why didn't Gil just use Enuma Elish to kill Tiamat? Complete destruction of the target will kill even things with no concept of death.
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>>162346591
Good times.
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>>162347458
Not waver
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>>162347458
There is no gameplay veredict, just go check his skills.
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>>162347375
You don't need to get so upset. And what's this about all American Servants not being capable of handling even one demon pillar when in fact they handled many times more than that? Beowulf and Li Shuwen count as American but Arjuna doesn't?
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>>162347458
perfect as Saber Lancelot's supportslut
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>>162347458
Crits-Arts meme support.
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>>162347389
No wonder this is worst general on /vg/.
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>>162347568
>>162347568
>>162347568
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>>162347375
>and all got their shit pushed in by a single pillar
No, they were fighting 27 at the same time.
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>>162347535

Arjuna isn't American. Why would you even call him American? Are you a fucking idiot?
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>>162347265
all this shit just reinforces in my head that all it takes is for nasu to write a "good" version of her and make a new rollable servant
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>>162347487
He couldn't use it for some reason and it was never considered an option.
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>>162347375
It was a pillar made of 27 pillars actually. There is even that CG that shows the thing and how big it is.
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>>162347480
Dont know. anons posted ideas and someone was collecting them. It just died with the thread.
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>>162347487
He uses it as Archer at the end. As Caster for some reason he can't use it or something.
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>>162347375
I seem to recall Edison and Tesla were having a competition over who was killing more
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>>162347550
what would be the ideal team for that?
saberlot, cas gil, kuro, welfare shiki?
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>>162347846
Shuten instead of Shiki, I'd say. Better star gen, AoE NP for mooks, and she has Charisma-like skill.
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>>162347932
damn, does she really have better star gen?
it always feels the opposite way when I use them, although I haven't properly measured it
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>>162347594
If you only count the servants who are specifically of American ethnicity, you're left with Edison, Geronimo, and Billy. And of them, only Edison was around to fight a demon pillar.

Then look at the prior statement:
>most Servants are pretty much irrelevant now with shit like the Beasts floating around. All the American Servants couldn't even handle one demon pillar, let alone an army of them, and now there's Beasts who utterly mock all 72 demon pillars combined in power.
Why would it be a big deal that the American servants can't handle a demon pillar? If only ethnically American servants are counted, and Edison was the only one present at the climax the final battle, then the above statement is basically just expressing upset about Edison not being able to handle a demon pillar on his own. Either the person who wrote it hasn't a clear idea of what they themselves thinks is American, or they just don't know how to express themselves through text.
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>>162348098
Again, it wasn't one pillar, it was 27 pillars fused together using the Clan Calatin as a basis.
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>>162348181
That's completely beside the point.
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>>162348589
No it's not, it's not a single demon pillar.
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Did I miss someone
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>>162351202
Is Gilgamesh a Grand Caster or a Grand Archer? Archer would be more fitting.

That said, I'll eat shit if he becomes a Grand Servant.
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>>162347568
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