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Forest Battles Edition

>FAQs and General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN

>Warhammer introduction to MP Lords and Heroes
http://pastebin.com/hPkPujTB

>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Warhammer News

Wood Elves Trailer:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoiks2rQa9o

Wood Elves Let's Play:https://vimeo.com/193870223/7bcb844b7b

Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications
Recent Update Info -- http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Update_5
Recent DLC (good goy) -- http://store.steampowered.com/app/534331/

Purged Degenerate Thread:
>>162239118
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Peace and love
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Come tah join my thread... goood ladz...
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Wood Elves are fine, though Waywatchers could use a buff.
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>>162267860
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so it's confirmed all the anti welf players are actually just bad at the game?
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>Raise dead is amazing now
>CA will inevitably nerf it to the ground

reminder to play VC before next patch
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Day 200
Warhammer is still shit.
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>>162268087
It's Belegar all over again.
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>be welf
>lose to gob
>cost more than $20

nice gayme
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>unlike inferior meatbags, Gelt is literally made of gold
>can be killed in 3-4 hits by any generic lord
>fireballs hit him for 40% health
What went wrong?
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>>162268087
Pretty much, I'm guessing the idea of micromanagement is anathema to them or something.

Like who knew that the units that suck ass at prolonged engagements die when you just smash them into a mosh pit with another unit?
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>>162268139
I don't get this. Are you being serious or just piling into the meme? Are welf really that weak, or are you just not an understander of strategy?

Plus:
> more than $20
where? The DLC cost $18, no?
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>get "favorable" wood terrain
>can't see shit
>can't see a goddamn thing captain
>turn off foliage
>only the leaves disappear
>only when zoomed in really close

Why is this a thing?
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>>162268181
Gold is a really shitty metal when it comes to actual protection. It's a soft metal that you can bend with your hands, and has a really low melting point.

Should've used steel.
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Any mods that mute the GADOOOSGHSHHH every time you accept a pop up or menu item?
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>there are people paying $30 to lose to goblins
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>be great eagle
>high tier unit
>lose to tier 1 empire pistoliers in melee

Wood Elves are shit.
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FOTS is the best TW.

>naval bombardments
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Orcs a cute! CUTE!
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Will the AI use regiments of renown from for example the Grim and the Grave if I'm playing as Dwarfs for example and don't own the DLC?
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>>162268409
Fight on the edge of the woods on the campaign map so that you get the battlemaps where most of the map is open, with appropriate dots of forest for hiding. It still counts as forest.
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>>162268331
Wood Elves is Total War Arena:the faction. Lots of running around. A lot of the new maps are really Arena like too which is neat.
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>>162268537
Definitely cuter than those busted welf whores.
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So now even fuckboy enemy chaos lords get chosen?
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if you want a good idea on how you should play elves, you should try playing the elves in battlefleet gothic armada
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>>162268537
>Mate
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Total Warhammer is going 25% off this weekend.

Screencap this.
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>>162268545
Yes. The AI will generally use all the DLC stuff even if you don't own it.
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>people choosing to plat elfs
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Thank you based Tree Ent, you da real mvp in defending settlements. May your leaves ever be green.
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>Gobbo archers
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>>162268956
its already 25 percent off.
that's like saying, you're retarded, screencap this. we all already know it so what's the point
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>>162269041
Sauce
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>>162269083
>tfw azhag is a better elf commander than the welfs
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>>162269113
Told you ;)
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How do you like my carpet, /twg/?
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What the actual fuck. My army spawned ontop of a huge fucking mountain and the enemies are far down there in the distance.

Minimap also blurry, glitched wayy out
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>>162267860
Rollan!
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>>162268702
Take that back you slut
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>>162269205
did you take a picture with a fucking camera
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>tfw going away from my desktop computer
>Have to use my laptop
>Can't run Warhammer and the other newer total war games

Beginning of the end times patch when?
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>>162268702
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
>tfw no glade lady waifu to make fun of your pike and shot tactics and force you to lick her feet.
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>>162269234
>thicc
>literally a picture of an elf thin as a twig
I don't get it.
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>>162269228
Let's see, no empire or angrund please
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>>162269205
nigga what are you doing
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>SOON
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>>162269205
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>>162269205
Kek it happened to some other guy here on /twg/. What was your campaign map location?
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>>162269205
vaul's anvil and the settlement below it are at least bugged like this on the mini campaign
Next time take a screenshot, Anon
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>>162269328
Well someone give me some damn orc tips please.
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>be a thousands of years old elf
>earned a place in the honored Eternal Guard
>be trained to a level of skill that other races can barely match because of pure lifetime constraints
>bodyguard vitally important nobles on a regular basis

>lose to johnny mcconscript the inbred imperial farmboy and his spear he was handed half an hour ago

What did CA mean by this?
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>>162269319
meme that fedoras spout anytime they want to justify their fetish for overweight landwhales without looking too depraved.
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>>162269414
Yeah, I know. That bitch is basically a skeleton though.
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>>162269319
tits and hips, what are you gay
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>>162268520
This. Fell bats can be thrown into melee with ranged units and often win, or at least hold them up are stop them firing, without needing any clever "micro" or whatever. And fell bats are widely considered to be shit.
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>>162269284
>and force you to lick her feet.

unf
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>>162269360
Encircling Torgovann on the Wood Elf special campaign, the red welf faction directly to the left of start area. Encircling then waiting for them to attack instead.

Happened again now..
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>>162269319
that is pretty thicc for a welf though.
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>>162269404

humans are just born better. A thousand years training for an elf equals a 16 year old hillbilly with a pitchfork.
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>>162269506
Are they shit? Wolves and bats are basically my hammer to shitty skeleton zombie anvil early game.
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>>162269404
Elves aren't special in Warhammer.
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>>162269495
Hips that you can't see in that picture? Wew.
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>>162269545
>>162269356
>>162269205

Is this the birth of an epic new meme?
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>>162269545
How do I fuck up taking pics twice? Just rotate and look at that
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>>162269545
finally an Australia battle map
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>>162269545
duuuuUUUDE, STOP
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>>162269578
yes they are though
an Empire spearman has a weaponskill (WS) of 3 on the tabletop
WS is measured from 1-10
A wood elf Eternal Guard has a WS of 5 which is excellent for rank-n-file
5 which is much higher than 3
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so the free patch puts the elves into the game right, you just need to buy the dlc to play as them?
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>>162269541

>Well?

>They aren't going to lick themselves!
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SIXTY NIGGERS I JUST UPGRADED THE TREE ONCE
ONCE

WHY THE FUCK ARE BESTIGORS SHITTING EVERYWHERE NOW GODDAMN
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>>162269195
it is acceptable
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So I assume the steam groups are ded?

Also as a side note does quick battle actually work in Warhams?
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>>162269205

>>162269356

>>162269545

the fuck are you doing
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>>162269709
Yeah, it's been like that for a while now.
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>>162269545
>typical welf player
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>>162269578
>elves aren't special in warhammer

>numerically few but really elite on the tabletop
>special rules out the ass to simulate how naturally superior they are to other races
>high elves are so fast they flat out have an army wide rule that lets them always strike first in combat

>eternal guard described as a honored elite unit that guards the borders of the forest during winter, and are quoted as being "a bristling shieldwall of spear points, of which even the hardiest foes would struggle to conquer."
>loses 1v1 against imperial spearmen
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>>162269721
yeah I just neglect the tree until im ready for poopoo peepee
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>>162269545
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>>162269284
>>162269541
>>162269713
kill yourselves
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>>162269709
correct
>>162269721
Upgrade when you can prep, also set up ambushes. There's like only 2 entrances to that province and make friends with the ice elves and set a tribe as a war target.
They usually wipe out atleast one stack
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>>162269195

Better carpet
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>all this butthurt about Wood Elves being bad
>watch Legend of Total War play the minicampaign on legendary
>he wrecks everyone's shit with nothing but Glade Guard + Eternal Guard spam

what went wrong with /twg/'s userbase? I mean this literally, what went wrong in your development process?
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This is the battle that starts ontop of a huge ass mountain top. If i attack, then its fine. If i encircle, then it bugs out
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>>162269697

If you want to use tabletop values, weaponskill is the most irrelevant stat in the entire game in Warhammer.

The point is in the chaos of battle your superior skill often gets overshadowed by some bad luck, or maybe t. Human's buddy stabs you while you're focused on the dude in front of you.
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>>162269748
Quick battles work, just be ready for meme armies.
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Interesting...
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>>162269934
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>>162269932
The mini-campaign is super, super easy anon

The AI can't wood elf army comp worth shit, and you get bonuses out the ass against beastmen
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>>162269934
the fuck are you doing m8
F12 or print screen
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>>162270024
it would be really awesome if occupied couronne let you impersonate the lady or something and gave you access to brettonian units or a brettonian waaaagh
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>>162270053
I'm on PS4
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fucking goblin archers
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HA!
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>>162269934
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There's a dummied out command to give ember to WElfs , I just havent figured out how to make it work yet (pretty sure I'm missing something)
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>>162269854
t. footfag in denial.
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>>162269787
>CA actually cripples armies because they're so afraid of making a faction good and unique
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>>162269545

The maze, Dolores. Tell me about it
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Thanks CA
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VARIED TREES RELEASED!

Trees are now multiple colours, they are still angry about elves though.
only took 4 hours because none of the rgb values for trees work properly

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=815088013
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does anyone else think the VA for wardancers is annoying as hell
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>>162270185
>playing Total war on PS4
why
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>>162270492
remove name
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Okay here is a proper picture of what I tried to upload earlier. Look at this shit

My whole army is mountain-goating up the steepest hillside nearby and the enemies far far away down there
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>>162270492

niiiice
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STOP GLOBAL WARMING

SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL WOOD ELF
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>>162270589
kys
>>162270492
thanks creme
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>>162270632
>wood elves take a trip to rhodok country.jpg
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>>162270492
>No Winter theme

Really makes you think.
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>>162270492

Is it possible to reskin the regular Wood Elves so that they have multiple hair colors
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>>162270632
pretty common bug in mountain regions in tw games
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>>162270664
kiss*
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>>162270393

holy shit kek
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High Elves when
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Here is another
This is like every wood elf player online, ever
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>>162270920
When you smoke some weed.
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YOU'RE A BIG ELF
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>check steam workshop
>altdorf is a 10 building slot region
FUCKING CONFIRMED
City states soon lads.
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Some kind anon helped me a few threads ago, I want an experience kinda like vanilla as it's my first time but improved so I don't want to get the big overhaul mod yet.

So far I have cataph's magic, higher replenishment rates and chaos infighting immunity.

I think I read there are better ai recruitment mods.
Are they must have?
Which one? Hopefully updated.
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What the fuck have I ever done to them? Orion declares war out of the blue and now fucking tree huggers are slowing my expansion to a crawl because I have to defend Reikland from these filths.

Can't even clean up Skarsnik. ASRAI NEED TO STAY OUT OF CIVILISATION
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so are wood elves similiar to the elves in the lord of the rings mod with there op archers and stuff
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Did Joey voice the female glade lords?
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>>162271237

>op archers

No
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Does anyone know how easy it is to make a custom faction rename mod? None of the ones in the Workshop do it for me.
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>>162270723
what do you think those 4 hours were for, due to the rgb values being absolutely ridiculous can't even get a proper white going, believe me I tried anon.

>>162270646
>>162270664
thanks lads

>>162270772
I honestly haven't looked, though I imagine at worst somone could export the models and put edit them, i'd doubt you could change them in the tables though I'm afraid.
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If CA dont make high elves the juggernaut melee force they are supposed to be I will be eternally mad
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Any required mods right now?
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>>162271461
I thought that was Dark Elves
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>>162270393
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>bretonnian ranged cav beats wood elf's range cav

what the fuck
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>>162271256
I was thinking that too.

She seems like an autistically rapid Welf fangirl, so I imagine they would have let her.
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>>162271534
Helfs have gigantic shields and spears, they are the greeks of the Warhammer world. Except with millions of archers and dragons to support them.
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>>162271534
>Dark Elves
>Beating High Elves on land

If that was the case, ulthuan would already be degenerate clay
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>>162271682
But anon, all the elite high elf units use two-handers.

The closest the High Elves have to an elite shielded unit is the lothern seaguard.
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If you attack an enemy army in forced march isn't it an ambush battle? Why the fuck can the AI just retreat? WHY DOESNT THE AI FUCKING FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE GAME!?
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>multiple 20 dollar DLC packs
>day one DLC
>(((simplified))) sieges
>no sense of progression
>game is too restrictive because it follows the lore too rigidly
>do quests to earn weapons your character's model is literally holding already
>terribly balanced
>Wood elves before Skaven

Warhammer license was a mistake.
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those balloon things can actually come off?
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>>162271834
yes
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>>162270187
>4 kills
>2 kills
>8 kills
>0 kills
>6 kills
>11 kills
>13 kills
>2 kills
Yeah, those goblin archers really outshot your glade guard:
>50 kills
>49 kills
>58 kills
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>>162271818
>no sense of progression
>game is too restrictive because it follows the lore too rigidly
What are you talking about
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>>162271834
They are fluff
It is to tell where the enemy force is when inside the city
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>>162271776
The bread and butter for High Elves are their archers and spearmen. The Spearmen are pretty damn good for a basic unit on TT, making them a perfect anvil.
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>>162271943
Think of the potential randomized maps could have had.
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>>162271818
>no sense of progression
>game is too restrictive because it follows the lore too rigidly
I agree with pretty much everything else you said but I dunno about these anon
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>>162270487
>modryn faction unlocker still needs work
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>>162271963
That's neat. Does it have any basis in history?
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>>162271803
>Hey there, you are literally one step away from attacking me, but still in the same circle!
>allow me to just walk around your army, raze your town, and then walk just far enough so that you are one step out of range again :^)

They shouldn't be able to just walk around you if you are in the same fucking circle
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>>162271987
Agreed, but calling them the greeks of warhammer is wrong, combat wise.

They're all about the high damage and the two-handers.
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Is it me or Hawk riders disengage really easily from battles?

It's funny that they and glade riders turned out to be my favorite units from WE roster. WIld riders are especially good against beastmen, You can pretty much focus fire an entire unit of chaos spawn or centigors before they even reach your lines. Once the battle has started they can easily defeat shitty ungor archers in melee and then start cleaning up routing units.
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At least they're good against beastmen
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>>162272360
They made disengaging eaiser overall in the patch
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>>162272360
It helps that all welf archers are better at melee than ordinary archers on melee
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>>162267860
>Morhgur has strong resistance to missile and magic based damage, but is fairly susceptible to physical – particularly fire – based damage.

gee this would be a great tip if it wasn't for the fact that the only fire damage dealing units the wood elves have deal that damage through missiles and also deal magical damage, making their fire damage bonus completely worthless
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>>162271803
They changed that, it's not like in R2. (Was it even in Attila?
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>>162272401
>That lord name.
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>>162272112
>warhammer fantasy
>basis in history

Hmmm.
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>>162272401
ARA ARA~~~!
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>>162271803
Pretty sure you can do the same. The ambush thing is a rome 2 thing IIRC.
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>>162272401
The Beastmen v Wood Elfs dynamic of the new race is pretty cool desu

You're right about Glade Riders too, super fun unit.
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>>162272401
>not renaming her Ara Ara
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>tfw shittest elves find out they're shit
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>>162272480
Use banners and magical items anon.
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>>162271587
Bretonnia doesn't have a finished roster so their peasants overperform.

>>162271172
>mfw
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>>162272656
>>162272531
>>162272559
Fine, you win
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>Shitty Elf memes are finally dead

Thanks CA
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>>162272557
I'm not sure if you're disputing or agreeing with me, but Warhammer Fantasy is literally history mashed together and fantasy chucked on top.

>HRE Empire
>Medieval France Bretonnia.
>Medieval Russia Kislev.
>Renaissance Spain / Italy Tilestalia.
>Modern British Skaven.
>Iraq War American High Elves.

The list goes on.
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>glass cannons
>are actually just glass

Why is this allowed
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>>162272773
It's funny how original fantasy HRE is actually. Love them.
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>>162272682
wood elves don't get banners in the mini-campaign, and afaik there isn't any weapon they get that gives them fire damage for lords
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goddamn the lore of shadow wind spell is fucking amazing
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>>162272706
HYPE NIGGAS
NO MORE PICK AND CHOOSE BULLSHIT
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>>162272773
Kislev is more early modern Slavland (Russia + Poland) than it is medieval Russia

Not sure what is really medieval about it except maybe the name
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>>162272773
fantasy came out before the first gulf war, around the time when saddam was an US ally.
>>162272887
git gud.
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>>162272773
How is Skaven modern British?
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>>162272990
>cheating
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>>162272990
>NO MORE PICK AND CHOOSE BULLSHIT

Was planning stuff like that even hard?

I found it somewhat enjoyable.
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>>162272773
Funny
I see you mentioned a certain kingdom thar is neither holy,nor roman nor an empire
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>>162272751
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>>162273120
Brits are vermin
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>>162272948
I just used Orion with a good amount of melee buffs for that. He does a lot of damage.
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someone post the "woodelves confirmed" pasta for posterity
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removal of turn based campaign map when?
real time is superior
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>>162273143
>>planning
>>In Warhammer

More like do nearly the same thing in every city and then forget about them once the building slots are full. No planning required.
>>
What are some objectively, undisputably good mods for warhammer?
Can be cosmetic, gameplay or ui, anything really.
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>>162269195
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>>162273312
Just search the archives.
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>>162273141
more like making major places like altdorf, nuln and the like important again.
>>162273143
It tickled my autism that you had to specialize altdorf and treat it on the same level as Akendorf.
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>>162273312
What does this pic ever meant?
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Why is this allowed?

Could they not at least make the banners visible?
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>>162273680

press space
disable trees.
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>>162273680
That my friend
Is a call back to Rome Total War germanian map
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>>162273731
doesn't help much
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>>162273789
flashbacks to eb2 gaul desu
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>>162273731
Doesn't actually hide the trees, anon. Only makes the leaves disappear, and only while zoomed in uncomfortably close.

>>162273789
Wasn't good then, isn't good now.
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>>162273848
>army is 70% ranged
>arrows hit trees

Enjoy your pyrrhic victory at best
>>
WARRIERS OFFF GERRMANIA
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>>162273945
>wood elves
>faction of elves who like fighting in woods
>are trash in woods
>excel on open plains with pockets of vegetation

What did CA mean by this?
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>>162273680
You know
I Kinda missed these full forest maps
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>autoresolve has 90% chance of success
>map forces you to fight through this terrain
sure made the right choice
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>>162273991
CA meant that they cant program for shit
>No terror damage bônus for wildwood
>Cant make arrows bypass physics when innawoods
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what difficulty do most of you play on, i feel like normal can be too easy sometimes.
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Do lord packs add new units? Like for the faction in general regardless of lord selected?

Fuck me if they do, I'll need to get them, even if I don't want to play the lords provided for now.
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>>162274306
Very Hard
Normal or Hard battles are too much of a breeze,specially normal
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>>162269228
Rolo
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>>162269041
>urist
ravandil invades dwarf names so often
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>>162274306
VH with normal or hard battles as default. Legendary if I want a challenge.
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>>162269228
Count Rollo
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>>162274306
legendary
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>>162274306
Hard
VH and legendary are tedious
I really dislike the campaign map of this game more and more every day.
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>>162274586
actually who I was considering playing GC with after the campaign pack with orion
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Can you have different difficulties for campaign stuff & battles like in older titles ?
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>>162274043
that's the wood elves' version of walls, they get sick terrain advantages on defence
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FUCK YOU MORGHUR

243 TURNS

1655263 IN THE BANK

23517 PER TURN EVEN WITH ELEVEN STACKS

FUCK

YOU
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>>162274345
yeah they do anon, those units are still in the campaign just you cant play with the new toys if you dont buy them.

>>162274757
yea you do it from esc gameoptions while on the campaign map, I play on vh/n because morale penalities are silly in battles
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>>162274705
Durthu is fun. A beast in melee, and the amber free units are better imo. The amber-free welf units are good enough (especially the wild riders), but welfs suffer a bit from having to pay amber for the monsters.
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>>162272401
Werd the Nerd
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>AI Durthu destroys Morghur's stack every turn
>WEIRD AND HERETICAL POWERS with camera pan
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>>162274870

God damn it.
Are they worth it?

Seriously merchant please fucking stop, enough.
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>>162274932
Trees are essential and having to pay amber for them is a massive headache. Elven units, on the other hand, are just fine without amber.

Durthu is the easier campaign by far.
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How am I supposed to play in this shit?
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>when you beat the legendary campaign as tree hitler
>slaughtered filthy beastman shits
>tree is now fuck huge

fucking loving it senpai
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>>162275161
You're not

Concede and reload
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>Were the Macedonians Greek? This question is the most contentious issue in Macedonian historiography. Conflicting claims to the territory of ancient Macedonia have made the question of the “Greekness” of the ancient Macedonians a burning issue. Modern nationalists may be confident of their answers, but contemporary ideology has little relevance to antiquity. Thus, while recent epigraphic discoveries suggest that “Macedonian” was a dialect of northwest Greek, it is clear that in antiquity neither Macedonians nor Greeks considered the Macedonians to be Greek. Except for the ruling Argead house, which was believed to be of Argive origin, Greeks viewed the Macedonians as barbarians like their Thracian and Illyrian neighbors.
There you have it folks.
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>>162275086
Grim and the Grave is kind of meh, but the majority seems to agree that King and the Warlord is worth the money.

I actually liked Grim & the Grave just because it added some fun, if somewhat useless at times, units. But it's a case of "if you like the faction get it, if you don't don't bother".
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>>162275161

gun it for that top left corner so you have a small battlefield in the open
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>>162273120
>Devious
>Long faces / ugly
>Incomprehensible way of speaking.
>Live underground.
>Consume a disgusting corruptive substance for pleasure (tea).
>Strong innovative streak.
>Should be exterminated whenever encountered.
>Is an enemy of the !SouthAmerican faction (Argentina / Lizardmen).

The list goes on.
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>>162275161

press tab
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>>162274306
very hard most of the time, if I want a more comfy campaign then just hard
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>>162274827
grats anon, enjoy the red duke
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>>162274306
Legendary. It's Very Hard but with a bunch of realism and roguelike options enabled.

Proper fun.
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>>162275161
Hide foliage.
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>>162275268

I plan to play all factions.
I must have them.
Fuck everything.
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Jesus christ fighting dwarfs is suffering

My best stack almost lost against a stack of nothing but warriors and a couple quarrelers
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do I have a chance, i cant really tell
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>allied to Durthu
>he's doing nothing but sitting in the Waterfall Palace
>declares war on every single faction surrounding him and dragging me in to it
The tree is fucking retarded
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>>162275086
anon maybe some of the old dlc will be on steams christmas sale, wait at least a fortnight
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>>162267947
>warhammer totalwar

>looks like the art assets were personally painted by the players

intended?
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>tfw no lewd mods
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>>162275808
I'll be very surprised if we dont get nude wardancers
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>>162275748
You do realize different graphical options are a thing with computers right?

A lot of the screenshots here are shit because most people can play fine on shit computers.
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>>162275637
Yes.

>use cairn wraiths to eat tower shots as siege towers advance
>get vlad stuck in asap to use his heavy combat skill investment, tie up as many ranged units as possible
>concentrate vargheists and only commit them once vlad and the skellies have cleared a section of towers and thunderers to ensure they get there in one piece
>park mortis engine below the wall with the heaviest fighting to get the regen aura in the right place
>save cavalry and horrors for once the first few towers are captured, breach the gates once enemy forces are distracted and use them to loop back and hit the capture zone

Hard but possible. Make more siege equipment. I'd take three sets of towers to get all skellies and zoms inside, and one ram for the ghouls.
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>>162275894
no i play rome 2 its well optimized and looks great
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>>162275671

It's too late anon.
It is done.
The only thing left to buy is POOPOOPEEPEEmen, hoping they go on sale at christmas because I don't particularly want them.

Boy, I'm really fucking retarded, bought almost all the dlc without even trying the game. If I somehow don't like it I'm gonna end myself.
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>>162274306
Usually Very Hard but with just Hard battles.
I don't like the penalties/buffs in Very Hard and I hate Legendary "STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING I HAVE TO SAVE"
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>>162276016
If you want to write a bait reply, at least try to put some effort into it.
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>>162275884
Can you mod the game without steam workshop?
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>>162276274
well anon I've put over 700 hours into it, I hope you won't get the regret if everythings on special in 2 weeks.

Just remember, Wood elf minicampaign unlocks the red duke for multiplayer vampire counts, also Mousillon, which then goes very well with a certain reskin mod
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>>162276274
>now wanting to have your minotaurs charge through rows upon rows of poor saps

Joking aside, it is a good idea to get the Beastmen on sale. I actually didn't care about them at all personally, until I actually played them in this game. They are actually a lot of fun to play in my opinion, just not worth the full price CA was asking for.
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>>162271256
>>162271598
If she did then she did a pretty good job imo
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>generic lord treemans have this shit while dhurtu only has 5% weapon strenght factionwide
Is durthu even worthy of being the LL ?
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>>162276580
I blame people bitching about "powercreep". I fear that CA might start making less interesting stuff again because of those complaints.

And let us be honest, does anybody actually care about balance in a Total War game?

The only one I can think of is Arena. And maybe Shogun 2, just because more people played multi due to that Avatar thing.
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>ywn tie a harpy up and lick her toned stomach
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>>162276894
>And let us be honest, does anybody actually care about balance in a Total War game?
People who take multiplayer seriously. They balance the single player around the whining cunts that play multiplayer. I'll bet that's one of the reasons why Welfs are shit, because they would dominate online.
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Ardiaei desu
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>>162276894
popularity would be the next basis for balance if not fairness in which case WoC and VC should be totally overpowered.
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>>162276580
fuck I'm retarded, forgot to add the ward save one too
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>>162276580
>Is durthu even worthy of being the LL

yes tree hitler is amazing with sword of daiths
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>>162276580
Durthu stabbing his sword downwards make him worth it imo. Him wading through the battle field is enough to satisfy me.

Since I'm not going to see anymore of that shit in DoW since they took out kill animations, I'll settle with my sword wielding tree.

>>162276997
>regeneration got a cap
>summoned units now have a limited lifespan
>welfs are shit

What else has the multiplayer faggots ruined?
>>
>play Orion
>Woodman goes on a hike
>take his city
>woodman dies to something cause no replenishment

Is it the same if you play Durthu ? Does Orion fuck off somewhere letting you cap his city without fighting ?
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>>162276580
Why are you playing treeman when the other faction choice is a literal god?
>>
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=814266302

So this is the power of Total War community

why there so many fucking cheats mods in workshop?
>>
How the fuck am I supposed to defeat those Brittonian castles with a full 20 stack sitting on them all the time?
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>>162276004
worked, forgot to take screenshot
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>>162277408
Starve them out.
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>you need amber to upgrade the oak, go take some lands!
>go take some lands
>Morghur's doomstack out of fucking nowhere ready to destroy level 1 oak
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>>162276997
>I'll bet that's one of the reasons why Welfs are shit, because they would dominate online.
I honestly thought that this was a joke at first, but then I remember all the whining prior to the DLC release on how the eagle units would break the game. Because having a flying unit with bows is just such a fucking gamechanger.

>>162277408
Wait it out I suppose. Before they would come out to attack my army, but after the patch they really do like sitting in their safe spaces now.
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>>162277408
If you're lucky most of them will be cav. Win the walls, park ranged units on top, fire down, win.
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>>162277165
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>>162277486
Then they come out and attack you and you either run or lose.
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>>162277359
Same reason CA had to put up TWO (2) blogs giving advice on how to play Wood Elves.

People are dumb.
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How do you guys use waywatchers? They have low speed so vanguard seems like a meme.
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>>162277621
Why are they so based.
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>>162269228

Here I go!

Wood Elves A Shit!
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>>162277869
Enjoy the fapping anon
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waywatchers should have snipe...
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you guys told me to get ghosts vs dwarfs, this better work
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>>162277359
>>162277654
>pre-release
>bravo CA for putting in unique gameplay mechanics for the Wood Elves!
>post-release
>WHY IS AMBER SO SHIT, WHY DO I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS LIMITED RESOURCE
>WHY DONT WOOD ELVES PLAY LIKE EVERY OTHER FACTION, THEY ARE TOO HARD!
>REEEEEEEEEE

Yeah, people are pretty dumb aren't they?
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>>162278142
watch the peak guard otherwise you're going to have a bad day
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>>162277839
The waters belong to Ardiaei
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>>162278281
nigga are u trying to build the HRE or some shit waht the fuck are those borders my man
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>Some elf twink faggot spends 2000 years of his life crafting the ultimate bow
>gets blown the fuck out by some 14 year old imperial boy who just got handed a crossbow
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>>162273371
Making Wissenland into a triple silver rank infantry recruitment base is fun.
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>>162278351
>H
>R
>E
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>>162278142
Why aren't you playing as Vlad?
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>>162278142
>regiments of renown in a dawi army
Jesus Christ, I'm on turn 160 and I haven't seen any of them. How bad am I at this game?
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>>162278351
Let me tell you about the borders, anon
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>>162274464
I heard the battle AI behaves slightely more competent on VH battle difficulty.
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>a race that spends literally all their time in the woods and is adapted to fight in them more than anyone
>forests are their worst environment to fight in
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>>162276395
if you make the mod and never upload it to the workshop sure. its easy


added more variety, still no luck finding a way to get them albino
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>>162277236
Summoning has never been more viable for vampires. It's pretty insane.
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Get FUCKED Morghul
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>>162278026
agreed
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>>162278710
Not that I've noticed or read about. It only gets visible morale buffs and invisible buffs to damage and some other stuff.
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>>162278725
Apparently clifftops are their preferred battleground.
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>>162278495
i am
>>162275637
>>162278142
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>>162278880
Wood elves are bad though. Do a rematch and lose please.
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>>162278880
Battle was easy as fuck but Morghur still getting his aura after he's broken was irritating as fuck. Had to chase him for 5 minutes.
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>>162279032
Wood Elves are fucking awful mate, but the dragons shred.

100+ kills each, and they spent the vast majority of the fight just hovering over Morghur so that they could immediately go in and chew on him as soon as his aura broke.
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>>162278495
Vlad first hero
Ghorst second
Mannfred third
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>>162268279
Skaven are the favored faction of redditors
>>
>>162279225
That sounds like an ass pull. If there is any normie faction at all, it'd be empire or chaos
>>
>dream that I am a desert chieftain
>I rescue an elf girl while she is getting raped
>I make her my wife
>I have several children with her while leading my tribe of desert raiders

Am I a cuck?
>>
>>162279352
>SKAVEN LOST BUT THEY ACTUALLY WON HAHAH BACKSTABS

They became shit.
>>
>>162279352
Skaven are the mindlessly random faction, the "holds up spork" of Warhammer

Also they were overpowered on the tabletop because they have shitty low-cost swarm units, high-cost elite units, monstrous units and long ranged war machines

They are even more "jack of all trades" than the Empire is and will be even more OP than demigryphs.
>>
>>162279478
Cute life.
>>
>>162279553
I mean what do you expect from a race of rat people, I fully expect them to be backstabbing cowards that eventually win due to sheer numbers. I fail to see how that makes them reddit/normie tier
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What's wrong with the WE AI? Not doing anything.
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>>162279704
I blame more the GW writing. That "Skaven lost but they actually kinda won" shit they pulled a lot got pretty annoying.
>>
How the fuck is Total War Warhammer not cracked yet when so many other Denuvo games have been cracked?
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>>162269748
>So I assume the steam groups are ded?
since Rome 2's release
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>>162279352
Skaven are "crazy" and "quirky" ratmen with an accent that sounds like the "me wants hugzzz epic!" style of speech 14 year olds did back in 2004.

They're associated with reddit because they share stereotypes.
>>
>>162278205
desu I control the whole of athel loren and I can't even spare amber for special units (not like I want to anyway since treekin4lyfe)
>>
>>162279704
It's the fanbase. Have you never seen this on the internet before?
>>
>People can only progress the welf campaign if they are playing treekin

Bunch of pussies
>>
>>162279352
'Normies' in the warhammer tabletop sense just buy whatever looks interesting to them, usually VC or something with a big monster unit and then drop it when they realize what painting and modelling involves. In my experience:

>Empire
nerdy younger guys little neurotic over rules
>Warriors of Chaos
Mixed bag either the worst or pretty chill
>Dwarfs
Always nice guys but really hung up on rules
>VC
Pretty competitive sometimes irascible
>Ogre Kingdoms
Easily the most chill would get a beer with/10
>Bretonnians
Fantasy lovers lots of monty python jokes
>High Elves
competitive, hung up on rules sometimes but usually chill.
>Skaven
Always great, good sense of humour sometimes try it on though
>Tomb Kings
fun guys, often competitive and optimistic which is refreshing for a less viable army especially for the chariot antics

Haven't played against players with the remaining factions.
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>>162279126
That's how I won that battle too.
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>Welf have normal difficulty campaign ranking

Kek, talk about baiting shitters
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>>162279856
Cringe
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>>162280009
>good sense of humour

These kinds of generalization are so fucking vague. It doesn't mean anything.
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>>162280009
I'm a big fan of Empire and I fear this might be too accurate.
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>>162280235
It's entirely true though, I fucking loved them too when I was a preteen.
>>
>>162275650

Retard. You NEVER ally with small factions. You only accept alliances with huge steamrollers so that you dont have to worry about being dragged into wars you can't win.
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>>162274306
Very Hard, the only part i dislike is when it turns into a GoT style campaign where there can be only one faction left standing after Archie goes to the afterlife.
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Durthu getting meme'd on
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>>162276580

Durthu is an amazing fighter on his own, you can get his melee attack past 100 and melee defense past 90 no problem.
>>
>Glade Lord with +12% Range Trait

now this is what I'm talking about
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>>162280570
Why are you fighting him? I did just fine by making friends with most of them, and Durthu is a useful friend because he's strong.
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>>162280751
it was briefly with the russian vostokstkoyosk bypass, but then it got uncracked. Just buy the cursed thing for 20% off with those shitoo tokens posted everywhere, otherwhise I imagine when expansion 2 releases they will make expansion one have a heap of specials
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>>162280009

Chaos player here, checks out.
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>>162280917
>wood elves
>friends

Fuck those cunts, they treat me worse then beastmen while attacking my bretonnian allies. Killing them all is the only sensible choice.
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>>162273992
same - im glad their back. It's a fucking deep forest the wood elves live in.
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How would you improve the elven archers?
Fast attack speed? More damage? Longer range? No forest penalty?
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>>162280917
Because if they don't bend the knee they must be destroyed
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>>162281215
more range and ammunition
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>>162280285
Just means that when playing against Skaven players usually equates to a lot of joking around and bullshitting. I don't knwo anyone who'd complain about a game against them, they look good and are a fun match up, a lot more interesting than just blocks of savage orcs or phoenix guard.
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>>162281215
More range, little bit stronger arrows. Pretty much all they need.
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>>162281215
Ignoring trees at least while firing from inside the forest would be something. Would make them indirectly alot tankier and a lot less retarded at shooting from what's been said.
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G O B L I N S
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>>162280009
TK player here, hate competition, not a fun guy, pessimistic as fuck.
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>>162248237
>>I haven't had them attack Cair Andros once yet
In mine they keep trying for it, so I'm needing to keep a proper garrison there.

>The Volunteers you can recruit from the mercenary tab don't cost any upkeep and you should definitely exploit that
Yeah, my Cair Andros garrison is almost entirely volunteers and Ithilien rangers. The volunteers definitely make a difference.
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>>162281215
Reload speed, ammunition and range

Glade guard should be able to fire backwards them aswell
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>>162281478
this, at least for the waywatchers and the deepwood scouts
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>tfw no bloody wardancer waifu

;_;
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nice "diplomacy" warfags

inb4 it's because my unreliable trait
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what are you boys on about

fighting the WE A.I on legendary is fucking terrifying with its perfect micro
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>>162280009
>Elves, all kinds
Huge cunts, will constantly resort to shady play, including cheating (I get to ASF before your impact hits!) and autistic minmaxers (BOtWD + White Lion deathstar, ain't easy being cheesy), will ragequit as soon as things stop going their way, the few people who actually play elves because they like them are cool, problem of being the most OP factions

fact.
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>>162280954
It's 25% off on steam right now
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>>162282185
>like high elves
>they become incredibly op and people start hating them
>like tau
>they become incredibly op and people start hating them

Life is suffering...
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>>162282219
I hadn't even realised, wonder if that stacks with white dwarf discount
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>>162282219
>Game is discounted and works with coupon
>DLC doesn't and is full price

Fucking jews,
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How do I win the Silver Spire battle? It's so fucking tedious to kill Morghur.
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>turn 25
>4 fullstacks of beastmen are already near the oak
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>>162279667
And then I woke up
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Opinions on the mini campaign? just finished it as Durthu, and found it incredibly easy after the first 20 turns, held off from upgrading the oak for a long time tho
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>>162282740
The mini campaign is scripted, when you upgrade the oak they attack
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>not one of the wood elf archers can beat a unit of quarrelers 1v1

this really pisses me off
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>>162282706
see
>>162279126
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>>162282913
well that's fucking stupid then.
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>tfw turning Norsca into a wood elf colony
fucking fantastic
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>enter lelmultiplayer
>first battle commences against welfs
>throw in the usual dwarf infantry with some ironbreakers and rangers for the heck of it
>after two volleys of 1 ranger unit that costs 500, expensive welf archers are down to half health
>eventually told all 4 ranger units to target specific units
>units quickly get destroyed and rout instantly
>mfw 500 priced units outperform a 1200 unit
>mfw i dont have a face

IS THIS IT, IS THIS ALL YOU CAN CONJURE ORION?
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Who is still waiting for superior Bretonnia?
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if this ain't cancer I don't know what is
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>>162283440
ever vigilant
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Ancient Empires when


Medieval Kingdoms when


Rise of Mordor
when
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>>162282706
Durthu and the tree squad can stay fighting him and won't die

I charged in my 2 dragons every time the barrier went off and fled when it went back up, by the 3rd time the barrier went off, Morghur was dead
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>>162272948
Yeah they do? I got the fire damage banner in my very first fight in the mini campaign.
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>>162283440
Me

But man I wish Bretonnia had more provinces, Norsca has way more than necessary and the western end needs way more.
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>>162282993
GRUDGES
WILL BE SETTLED
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>>162282865
This pisses me off the most, you even need to babysit your fucking basic line infantry
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>>162274460
urist is from dwarf fortress
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Can someone explain to me how the naval battles worked in TW medieval 2? People keep saying that's likely what warhamer will get.

Right now we just have the kind of nothing auto resolve based on the army compositions but when I looked up medieval 2 it looks like there's ship units you can build.

Thanks in advance.
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>>162283627
>great care was taken to ensure the empire would have the correct number of electorates with the exception of halflings because fuck modeling a new race for a single province
>bretonnia is half the size it should be and is missing half the duchies

lmao
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>>162284029
In Med2 you could build different ships, but there was no real time naval battles
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>>162282706
Trees. Elf units are fucking shitty memes and you're an idiot for trying to use them. Just spam the hilariously superior medium and big trees until you win. Add the occasional dragon if that's your thing.
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>>162284029
>he hasn't played medieval 2
nigga go play that fucking game right now
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>>162284029

There were dedicated ship units in M2:TW, but they were just auto resolved when they fought
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the actual deep forest as in literally trees for the entire map is awful
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I hate playing wood elves with a passion. Nothing is interesting about their gameplay. Their infantry is shit. They have no siege weapons. The skirmish archers meme is only good against goblins and beastmen. The technologies are all terrible. I wish steam allowed to refund DLC.
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>>162282993
We literally told you this would happen. Why didn't you listen?
I wonder how mad is that one guy right now.
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I don't play MP, so I really can't talk about that, but I love Welfs. Once they earned some chevrons, got a couple of commander and building buffs they are fucking killing machines.
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>>162284145
>>162284195

If we get that and there's a little animation where the ships fire at eachother on the world map I will be happy, thanks again anons.

>>162284156
Maybe eventually, but I'm enjoying Total warhammer too much to switch right now.
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>>162283627
Maybe CA going to add few?
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>>162284101
It wasn't such a huge deal when there were only 5 factions, but now we have the Wood Elves, Beastmen, and soon Bretonnia all fighting over a small area. Not to mention Skarsnik and Belegar ad the Empire nearby. Shits getting crowded.
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>>162268087
>>162268134
>>162268331

Yes, we truly are the best players in this general, m'fellow gentle-sirs.
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>>162284604
I'd honestly be surprised if CA added anything to Bretonia for when they release them. Maybe add a few quest battles and call it a day.

It's a freelc after all, no point putting effort in it. Why do you think it's going to be the very last dlc finished?
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>>162284625
Also Tobaro is part of Tilea, not Estalia
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>>162284238
You should embrace tree units friend. Elves are fucking shit, so just get some wild riders and a few ranged units. It helped me enjoy them a lot more.
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>>162284625
Don't forget the Red Duke, Morghur and soon Alberic and Morgiana Le Fey.
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>>162284029
Warhammer supposedly won't be getting naval battles due to the GW Manowar series existing as its own thing
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;_;
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>>162273991
Archers are historically shit in the woods, it's not CA's fault it's the Warhammer lore being retarded and falling for the 'le forest archer' meme.
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>>162284625
i like this man
i really liked the gaul clusterfuck in attila
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>>162284706
Bretonnia is getting new units and 3 liege lords as well as the Green Knight legendary hero
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So now that you've given them a few hours, what do you think of the elves?
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>>162284830
I know, it's unfortunate but probably for the best since it would take a fuckload of resources and we'd probably hate it anyway.

I've just been hearing that it will likely be like Medieval 2 instead where you can build dedicated naval units but they auto resolve instead of actually doing a real fight.
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>>162284849
>historical accuracy should take place over in-universe lore in a game about said universe

How hard would it be to remove collision on wood elf projectiles?
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>>162284814
Morgiana is the secondary LL for Bretonnia proper

Alberic is the only LL for Bordeleaux

Red Duke is a vampire so he's cool

The real problem is that Empire still only has one starting position while Bretonnia will have two and VC will end up with two after Red Duke is released. So sans DLC the Dwarfs and Empire will be the only two factions without a free secondary starting position
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>>162284830
>manowar on TT is about naval battles
>manowar the videogame is about being a pirate captain
>somehow CA won't be allowed to do naval battles because GW sucks
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>>162273848
I fucking hate these tree meme maps, they remind me of the bad parts of EB
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>>162285128
They're hot garbage.

They feel like a mess to play with every unit being a skirmisher in need of babysitting, you don't really get rewarded with a super solid and enjoyable force for your efforts; you only get the same results as a regular braindead hammer and anvil style. The vast majority of their roster is unusable trash, their entire roster is overcosted, and their only redeeming quality is the dragon.
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>>162283508
It's coming
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>>162271219

>playing as new beastman leader
>am raiding around kislev
>see see wood elf and giant tree man armies marching across entire map so they can get to me
>they're getting fucked by attrition/chaos
>wipe them both out
>no more elves by around turn 30
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>>162285176
They're gearing up to give the Empire an alternate start with Toddy. Middenland got an MP roster with all Sigmarite units removed pending the various Ulric dorks.
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How the fuck do I confederate Durthu? This fag refuses to bend the knee
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ungrim attacks one of my settlements, wathever, I'll just try to vanguard deploy and kill one of his bolt throwers instead of autoresolving.
6 ranged units (quarellers/ rangers) proceed to literally kill my driads/archers from 100% to 20% in like 5 seconds each, meanwhile you could be shooting for 2 minutes with the same amount against some AI ranged unit, and it still wouldn't get that low.
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>>162285176
>after Red Duke is released
Why do people think we're getting playable Mousillon in the grand campaign? If that was the case, then Toddler's coming soon as well.
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Glad Guard can't even stand up to Gobbo archers. What a joke of a faction.
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>>162285554
That's also what people think is going to happen.
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>>162285619
Try using Wardancers, see how they fare in 1v1.
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>>162285619
Everyone knows you're not letting them fire on purpose faggot
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The Eternal guard folds like paper
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>>162285538
Dorfs > elves.
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>>162285370
> every unit being a skirmisher in need of babysitting, you don't really get rewarded with a super solid and enjoyable force for your efforts; you only get the same results as a regular braindead hammer and anvil style

I'm having fun but this is so true. A lot of work for mediocre results.
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>>162285619
>glade guard literally lose 1:1 against goblin archers
>eternal guard literally lose 1:1 against goblin spearmen

G O B L l N S
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>>162281215
I would make the people playing them get a brain
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>>162285764
They are a lot less cost-effective than empire spearbros and perform only very marginally better. It's a bad joke.
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The TRUE elf archer faction when?
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>>162285128
I think they're good

Iv also learned that the average TW player is really fucking shit at TW.

I thought it was a joke that TW was RTS for slow people but its true.
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>a weak and irrelevant faction in TT is weak and irrelevant in the game
Where's the issue?
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>>162285764
they catch cav and minotaurs i guess but yeah
i been spoiled by those fucking cheap gobbos
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>>162285901
Shut the fuck up
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>Conquer WElf settlement as a WElf
>Tree goes down tree goes up

Bravo CA
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>>162285619
To be fair the armor piercing variant is a lot better than any hand gunner. The regular ones are recruitable from your main structure, you don't need any buildings for them at all.
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>>162286175
Obviously the wrong kind of tree. deciduous tree fags need to go, Ever Green tree master race.
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i just want to play as kholek and fuck peoples shit up, but doing sieges with kholek + shaggoths and dragon ogres leaves me with so little going up walls , pls help
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After testing I've noticed

>Glade Guard lose to quarrelers 1v1
>Eternal Guard win by a hair against Empire Spearmen 1v1
>Eternal Guard lose to Empire Spearmen 1v1
>Wildwood Rangers lose to Greatswords 1v1 (despite being the intended armor killer close combat unit of the faction)

In all of these scenarios, the wood elf unit is more expensive both to recruit and in terms of upkeep than the opponent.
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>>162274306

Everyone here plays on legendary m'fellow good sir.

We here at twg are pro.
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>>162285745
War Dancers will usually win 1v1 against other equally priced infantry but not by much.
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>>162286117
>They're bad because I cant micro units!
>This is too fast! I cant do anything that isnt spaghetti lines!
Uh huh
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Skarsnik > Grimgor
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>>162281000
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>>162286250
Then don't. Fuck shit up beyond the gate and then go for the square.
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>>162286260
is there even a single WE unit that beats their other faction equivalent?
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>>162286260
>Eternal Guard lose to Empire Spearmen 1v1

Meant to be Empire Swordsmen
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>>162286352

t. Skarsnik
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>>162286260
>inb4 he tested on something other than normal
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>>162281000

Try starfire
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>>162286260

irrefutable proof that the fanboy white knights are wrong and the wood elves are OBJECTIVELY inferior to all other factions in the game.
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>>162286352
Belegar > Skarsnik
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>>162286379
Wood elves need a flat out weapon damage increase because they get fucked by heavily armored foes even though they have a lot of AP capabilities.
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>>162286260

Why would you ever use eternal guard to fight weak infantry? That's not even remotely what they're for. They have low damage but really good AP and anti-large bonus for their cost, bring Dryads if you're fighting low armor infantry.

>>Wildwood Rangers lose to Greatswords 1v1 (despite being the intended armor killer close combat unit of the faction)

You're actually a fucking moron

>"This anti-large infantry loses to this anti-infantry infantry, WHO WOULDA FUCKING THOUGHT?!"

You're looking for shit to complain about.
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>>162286379
Nearly all of them, there is rampant shitposting in this thread to make WE look bad.
>Actually thinking these images are real
>people turning off firing so units lose
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>>162286335

>they're not shit, you just have to micro!
>n-n-no...the other factions dont use micro...git gud!
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>>162286470
It was on normal

>>162286537
No, just how bad Wood Elves are is exaggerated, because they have a bunch of special abilities to somewhat make up for how fucking weak they are.

Problem is, to make use of those abilities they have to be actively micro'd, and doing so properly causes you to end up with an army that is as good as a poorly micro'd army from any other factions, not a strong force that feels rewarding.

Essentially, they're hardmode.
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>>162284256
yeah it was obvious that would happen, quarrellers have shields and high armour
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>>162286540
t.Begger Nohammer
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>>162286695
>>n-n-no...the other factions dont use micro
Not him but they legitimately dont

>Dwarfs; Lines
>Empire; Lines
>Chaos; Lines
>Orks; Blob
>Vamp; Blob
>Brets; Lines
>Welfs; Micro

Its quite obvious all these fags who cant play Welfs never played a fast paced TW game before, or any fast paced game at all. You wont win with welfs without knowing how to use the units and microing them well.
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I just tested it myself

how the fuck can goblin archers beat glade guards?
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>>162286687
>>162286537

Lmao, look at the fanboy gameworkshop nerd rage. I bet he's gonna break a key soon.

>CA CAN DO NO WRONG
>STOP FUCKING COMPLAINING, MORON!
>YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY THE DLC YOU POORFAG!
>GIT GUD GIT GUD GIT GUD GIT GUD GIT GUD GIT GUD GIT GUD!!!!!!!Z


>>162286690

>HURRDURR FUCK YOU!!!
>THEY'RE NOT REAL!
>THEY'RE LYING FFS!!
>I DONT CARE IF THERE'S PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE, PEOPLE ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE WELVES LOOK BAD
>I LOVE CA
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>>162286690
>actually assuming that anons bought shit elves just to shitpost
This kind of denial is unhealthy, lad.
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>>162286695
>>n-n-no...the other factions dont use micro
They dont. At least not even close to the level WE need.

tldr version you need to get fucking good scrub
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>>162286910

>I bet he's gonna break a key soon.

The irony is fucking staggering.
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>>162286260
>the intended armor killer close combat unit of the faction

The intended armor killers are glade guards with starfire shards or waywatchers. They're made to protect your skirmishers from monsters. They're not meant to be greatsword clones and I think it's good that CA is trying to do something different.
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>>162286964

See >>162286910 >>162286897


>>162286949

lmao ^ >>162286690

>Actually thinking these images are real
>people turning off firing so units lose

^ top kek cuck
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>>162286949
That was a lame attempt at samefag, we all know you're the one posting those fake images.

If you want to prove they are bad why dont you record a video then kid? I know you wont.
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>>162286005
>Those ears
Eww wtf is this a HALF-ELF?
>>
>try WE
>they're okay
>at least they're unique
>get bored after one campaign

>Bretonnia is still my favourite faction to play
>they're not even finished
>they're not even officially out

Who /chivalry/ here?

When will it be our time boys?
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>>162269228
fuck it lets rollan
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>>162286260
>Wildwood Rangers lose to Greatswords 1v1
to be fair greatswords are op as fuck and beat anything other than chosen
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>>162287109

>THE IMAGES ARE FAKE!!! FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!

l m a o

>dat white knight denial

just curious, how fat and ugly are you?
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>>162287149
Is there a good mod to add more Bretonian units yet? I want to /Chivalry/
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>defeat grombrindal army, try to kill him while they rout, debuff him with miasma giving him -24% movement speed
>treekin, heroes, and my 2 eagles can't kill him before he crosses half the map running.
They need to bring back rome2 mechanics of killing routing units seriously, this is fucking bullshit, the worst offenders being air units who can't chase for shit.
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>>162287149
I think they said February, feel free to correct me.
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>>162287227
>is there a mod to add more Bretonnian units?

Yes

>is there a good mod

No

They're all full of footknight memes
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>Goblin Archers
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>>162287149
Just a couple more months, my most chivalrous companion. Best faction soon.
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>>162287149
>infantry army are better than cav army
Its just not real Bretonnia.
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>>162287149
CA needs to release Bretonnia earlier to make up for the shitty WE DLC
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>Fantasyfags thought elves would save their shitty game
>They're the worst faction ever released in the history of total war
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>>162287269
just chase after and auto resolve
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>>162287149
Soon, brother. Soon we will fight for The Lady.
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>>162287332

>"CA needs to rush this faction to make up for this rushed faction"

Primo logic friend, you're the kind of forward thinking go-getter this industry needs.
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>>162287206
Is this what it's like when Orc Fightiness is super low?
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>>162287224

>>162287282

holy shit, this is hilarious.

>>162287347

kek, fucking this. the fat ass white knights are losing it.
>>
>>162287347
At least they're not Pontus
>>
>>162287347
Just post your Medieval/Rome/Atilla screenshots, no need to be snide about this general having a lot more Warhammer posters than usual.
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>>162287282

Wew lad I hope you're real proud of that hard earned victory against goblin archers
>>
Holy shit I cannot fucking wait for the DLC furor to die down so all this fucking /v/ermin fuck off back to their shithole board
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>>162287347
Not really, they're just underpowered.

The worst faction ever released would probably be Tylis or Hattori, where you literally paid for fuck all.
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>>162287282
>two stacks of elves just barely won against a bunch of goblins
>fucking GOBLINS
HAHAHAHAHAAH
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>>162287428
You's a git.
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>>162287282
>>162287432
>>162287347

>high tier wood elf army gets decimated by an army of goblin archers

L E L F A M
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>>162287282
>look guys i had two 20 stacks against two smaller orc stacks!
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>>162287574
>2stacks

look at those unit numbers
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so can I actually play as moulisson after the WE campaign or what
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last battle to win the grand campaign was nice

completed the campaign in 110 turns
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If I burn the Welf oak in the grand campaign do they got knocked out?
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Why do people keep crying about how elven archers lose 1v1?
This is not how you supposed to use them, they should not just stand there and shoot they need to move

Anyway i have no idea what you guys talking about, my archers destroy gobbo archers pretty easily
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>>162287674
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G O B L I N S
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>>162287279
>Knight Errant, Knights of the Realm, Questing Knights, Pegasus Knights and Grail knights
>People put in Dismounted knights.

But why. CAVALRY is Bretonnia's answer to pretty much every problem.
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>>162286897
>>162286910
>>162287082
reminds me of when most TK units would melt to goblin archers in Beginning of the end times. kappa.
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>>162287574
>>162287569
>>162287565
>>162287282

>WELVES GET BTFO BY ARMY OF GOBLIN ARCHERS

>GOBLINS

>ARCHERS

>ARCHER GOBLINS

you cannot make this shit up. white knight fat asses will defend this.

>>162286910
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>>162287718
Only in multiplayer
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>162287347
>162287432
>162287627
>162287895
>>>/his/
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>>162287895
Are you ok? Do you want to talk?
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This new DLC brought in some hearty keks

Thanks CA
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>>162287812

dumb goblin poster

>>162288031

newfag detected
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>Wood Elves
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I installed some mods.
Say game gets updated tomorrow and I wait for the mods to get updated. My saves before patch will still work fine right?
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>162288091
>>>/his
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Guys
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>>162287989
does the red king have any special stats/abilities or is he just a normal vamp lord
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>>162286897
???????
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Best mod to slow the combat by 33-50% or whatever's considered fun/balanced?
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>Be welf
>Siege attacking Bretonnias capital city
>Literally deploying a pair of huge tree stumps as siege towers
>Moving forward towars their walls
>Bretonnias towers are firing dead cow carcasses against the towers and my troops
>Cow carcasses hits the tree stump siege towers and both catches fire before I'm even halfway there

Ok.
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>>162288276
did you make sure they both shot their volleys off at the same time?
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>>162288249
Karak Belegar Peaks needs that, not the generic capitals.
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Memes aside I think what happened is CA saw that everyone liked King and the Warlord (their highest reviewed DLC on steam) so they decided to make Wood Elves hard as fuck too.
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>>162288375
marienburg too anon
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>>162288249
DELET
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Are you going to watch the Time Commanders reboot /Twg/?
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>>162288412
There's a difference between a faction being hard and literally useless.
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>>162288412
there's a difference between a hard campaign and being underpowered
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why does TWWH slow down all processes outside of the game when sitting on the campaign map? eeeeeeee
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>>162286250
Why do you need to take the walls when you have a herd of angry Dragon Ogres rampaging inside the """""""""city"""""""""
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>>162288375
Don't you mean Karak Skarsnik Peaks?
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>>162288412
I doubt that. It seems like Wood Elves are supposed to be quality over quantity but they forgot to add the quality.
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just tested it and my goblin archers killed Franz+19 steam tanks wtf CA
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>>162288352
No

I just right clicked to attack. Glade guard got one volley off before gobbos started firing back. why would I not take advantage of their range?
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>>162288412

They probably didn't want to make the Wood Elves "too" strong in the archery department but instead fucked up completely
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>>162285554
Why do people think "they're just adding flavor for minor factions XD" makes any fucking sense? If that was the case then why not make Kazador Dragonslayer and Gorfang Rotgut and the Kislev guy all playable armies in multiplayer battles too?
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>>162286352
I's agree!

Schemes > Headbutts
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>>162288426
Marienburg are a bunch of furries.
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>>162286250
have a hero that can damage walls follow him around
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>>162288624
did you make sure they started firing at the same time?
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>little green manlets are stronger than lanky pointy eared fucks

G O B L I N S
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>All those people crying about welfs

Can't wait for next patch when CA going to buff them because retards don't know how to play
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>>162288839
G O B B O S
O
B
B
O
S
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>>162271598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot-lSuzI8os

Well she played them on the table top.
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>>162288702
And this is also keeping in mind that Karak Azul and Kazador SHOULD be playable in the campaign anyway
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ebin
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>>162288517
>>162288532
Not really? Skarsnik's goblins are weak compared to other factions (except for wood elves) for example and that's what makes his campaign hard
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>>162288887
>because retards don't know how to play

their archers shouldn't lose to fucking quarrelers
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>Have 3 Wild Riders in Orions army
>Wild Riders(Shields) dont count
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>>162288991
Skarsniks buffs makes nasty skulkers almost on par with black orcs
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>>162288352
though they still lose to quarrelers.
I'm not that surprised since dwarfs in general have higher armor than other races plus they have the same number of men in a unit and they cost the same. still kinda disappointed though. gonna try the armor piercing ones next
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>>162289110
>Missile unit losing against a shielded missile unit with 80 armor.
I'm not sure what you were expecting.
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>>162288991
>cost efficient units allowing you to field more stacks (which lets you field more waagh stacks as well)
>literally useless woodfuckers
not the same
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>>162288309
What do y'all think of this?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691006940
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>>162288263
he gets a strong "hero debuffing" ability
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If i have the original game is there a way to pirate the DLC?
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>>162288991
If you focus entirely on the army tree for your skills, you can get nasty skulkers have only 110 attack (when using that buff at the end of the tree) and goblin wolf riders can get over 50 charge.

Skarsnik is only hard until level 4, because level 4 is when you unlock poison attacks for the whole army, meaning that Dawi are now going to break easily.
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>>162288985

>all those dragons

why?
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>>162289304
Nope.
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>>162288784
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>>162289406
why not?
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>>162289229

So you acknowledge they're shit.
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>>162289304

lmfao
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>>162289110
they should lose to Quarrelers, what they shouldn't lose against is fucking Goblin Archers
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Is there anything you wish you had known before you started your first TWW campaign?
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Which archers have 360 degree shooting
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>>162289547
against
>shielded missile unit with 80 armor
yeah
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>>162289639
I wish I had known the game was shit so I didn't waste my time.
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>>162289614
To be fair they're don't lose every time but it's still too close especially with the price difference between the units.
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>>162289667
waywatchers, scouts, commanders and all the different horse archers
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Penultimate pendulum is fucking great, I love the visual for it.
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>>162289206
>>162289229
>wood elfs have armour piercing
>cost twice as much
>still lose

and get fucked the shield should give zero bonuses unless it's in their hands
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Wood elves are supposed to be shit though, CA is just staying true to the tabletop.
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I don't feel like I'm an elf.
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I really need to invest in an SSD already.
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>>162290184
there loadtimes were ok until beastman
then they doubled for me
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>>162290184
>tfw only have room for 1 TW game on my SSD
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>>162283520
>>162284153

Ended up using 4 rank 9 Dragons and 3 Rank 9 Treemen to charge in as soon as the battle started and then sprinted in with 5 Eternal Guards with shields to soak up arrows and used a healer to keep the dragons alive and a beast-lore sorceress to flock-of-doom them to pieces.

Piece of cake, I just had a completely wrong army build the first time.
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from an /r/totalwar strawpoll
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>162289737
>>>/his/
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>>162290071
Okay, ignoring the quarrelers for a second, every wood elf archer has 15 armour. They're very vulnerable to missile fire. I'd be more surprised if they could actually go toe-to-toe with any ranged unit at all.
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>>162290387

>welffags in denial of that fact that welves suck ass in pvp
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>>162281546
I don't know what else to tell you man, just hang in there. It won't get better, but maybe you'll get to strike back eventually.
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>>162290071
>>wood elfs have armour piercing
>>cost twice as much
which unit? the waywatchers?
also i'm gonna say that it looks like dwarfs hard counter WE.
also I still think 80 armor is kinda hard to get through.
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>>162290451
>Lizardshit is so high
Lost all my respect for reddit
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>>162290582

These 1 to 1 comparisons are silly anyway. We archers can shoot on the run and beat most other archers in melee. Glade guard can melee mode chase and shoot other archers. Waywatchers can literally run in circles around enemy archers and never get shot at.
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>>162290582
>go toe-to-toe with any ranged unit at all.
>>162288276
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>>162280009
Bret here, all my Knights are named after MP references.
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should I play the mini-campaign as Durthu or Orion
im quessing orion is the vanilla choice?
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>>162290451
>furries and scalies are at the top
WOW
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>>162290929
Orion Is easier for buckling down at first imo since you start adjacent to the tree. Durthu can spam dryad auto resolve to get all that land anyways though so up to you.
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>>162290610

Honestly, I think I've been performing well with the WE armies until that last battle. Then it just felt like hitting a brick wall and I had to go to the dragons.

>pic related
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>>162290929

Orion in mini, Durthu in grand. That way you can go maximum elf in the forest and remove norsca with extreme prejudice.
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>>162290451
>Chorfs so low

*Unsheathes Fireglaive*
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Why do I love Skarsnik and Night Goblin Warbosses so much?
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>>162290718
Every faction hard counters WE.
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The final mission for elfs GC is really cool

Finally the reunion of spirits and elves
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>>162290582
>>162290718
fantastic job in changing the subject you fucks
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>>162290885
If anything eats the initial volley for the gobbo archers, the gobbo archers will beat the glade guard.
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>>162291128

I don't know, but I'm certain it'd be pretty simple if you were to think about it.
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>>162290451
Reddit rats is right.
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>>162291050
I don't want to use any amber at all for armies. Am I fucked?
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>>162291236
Posted too soon, fuck me.
But if the glade guard get the initial volley on the gobbos, the glade guard will win due to range.
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>>162290873
>Reddit-rats in first place
guess we all knew where the name came from
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>>162291236

If we're adding extra shit to the scenario then you need to account for the possibility that the glade guard will have something capable of keeping the goblin archers from getting close enough to fire in the first place.
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What's the point of Deepwood Scouts again?
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>>162269404
Elves are shit.
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>>162291278
not if you are Durthu

sucks to be you if you are playing with Orion, all high-tier units cost amber
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>>162291508
the ones with special arrows have an amazing fire rate
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>>162291508
They killed far more of you than you killed of them.
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>>162291162

You can see the shade of the fully upgraded oak
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>>162291508
Kiting.

The ones with special arrows are essentially javelin men.
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>>162269205
http://heresyouryou.com
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>>162291698
>haha we had better k/d means we won!
fuck off murifat
you lost in vietnam
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>>162291574
But muh skirmisher focus. We'll see how it goes.
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>for the longest time, waifufags were shitting up the thread with their inane anime images and reminders of which month it is now, talking about how elf archers will devastate quarrelers
>WElves come out
>their waifus are garbage
>their units are garbage
>their memes are outclassed by goblins of all things
wtf I love CA now
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>>162291506
In a normal battlefield situation (army on army), glade guard are susceptible to missile fire, even by goblin archers. In a one on one, the glade guard will win due to their range because the goblins will route much faster.
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>>162291508
Pincushions for goblin archers
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>>162291820
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>>162291962
same. elf fags getting blown the fuck out is wonderul
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>>162291962
>tomb kings finally come out and they're even worse
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Are the trees any good? Seems that elf fucking shits are mediocre so I might just be a god damn tree instead.
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>>162291904
>Enemy kills tons of your guys
>Despite being outnumbered
>Still pretend they're completely worthless.
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requesting elf pasta guy to rewrite his content to include a patch date for best elves
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>>162292234
trees are just shittier beastmen
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>>162290451
Chaos Dwarfs confirmed for least reddit faction of all
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>>162292005

In a normal battlefield situation there's absolutely no reason high range archers should ever be in range of regular goblins. Arrer boyz are more than capable of pulling a maneuver like this off.
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>>162290184
Load times are shit with an SSD.
Must be insane with HDD.
Then again, it's probably unnoticeable if you're not a SAVE SCUMMING SLUT.
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>>162269228
ayy
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>>162292419
To be fair, in a normal battlefield situation, artillery or cavalry would be the response to missile units.
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>>162292216

for the sake of tomb king poster, pls no
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>>162292216
Have faith, Grace won't let us down.
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>>162292234
Good? No. Better than useless elves? Yes. Durthu's campaign is actually winnable unlike Orion's.
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>>162292037

Aaaaaand the end.

>>162292234

The trees are good, they all have 20% phis resist and magic attacks

Just don't bring them vs dwarfs for obvious reasons.
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>>162292241

>Outnumbered

The unit size is smaller. It's still an even number of units. The cost on the other hand is not.
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>>162291824
is there an instructional video on when and where to kite said foes?
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>>162291962
>>their memes are outclassed by goblins of all things
??????
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>entire units of boar riders get btfo by a handful of Welfs with 10-25 welfs per unit
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>>162290451
>Even the amount of votes for Ogre Kangdumbz is memey

I just want to field leadbelchers.
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>>162292494

Right. Which is why the comparison is pointless to begin with. Units do not exist in a bubble.
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>>162291962

based CA
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>>162291928
only the spirit elites cost amber so if your just sticking to the top tier elves you'll be fine
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>>162288249
this a mod or did they upgrade capitals to have 10 slots??
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Well at least forest dragons beat the shit out of manticores

Now let's try terrorgheist
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>>162292713
comparing similar units is not pointless
goblin archers are cost effective
glade guards are not
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I can't find a fucking good army composition for the Greenskins. Their archers suck. Their cavalry sucks. All they have is infantry, and when going against the dorfs they get fucked because of all the armor.
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>>162292713
Of course it's pointless, but that didn't stop the discussion. I got curious so I tried some things out, and I shared what I found.
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>>162292647
aren't welfs shit though? they get btfo by gobbo archers. must be Photoshop.
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>>162292647
>Gobbo shaman

ok kid
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>>162292775

Well then.
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>>162292906
big uns + boar riders fuck over early dwarf armies
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>>162291962
At least this isn't the bad old times of /his/faggotry when the game literally had 1 - 2 factions on release.

>play Shogun 2
>there's literally 1 (one!) faction available for the entire game

>play Attila
>there's literally two factions in the game, the Romans and the Sassanids, along with a dozen or so faction whose units are made up with made up names and never existed in history and they thus don't count

Gotta respect that Ghal Maraz, mane, cause it is the only thing about the TW series that has ever been respectable or good. Without this game, CA would be just an upscale Paradox Entertainment, and you can't fall any lower than Paradox.
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Some traits are just too good to overlook.
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>>162292852
>goblin archers are cost effective
>glade guards are not
????????
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>>162292972
WELFS B T F O
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>>162292906

SP or MP?
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>162292998
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>>162292989
What about late game, though? Sieges are an absolute nightmare because of all the damn dorf chokepoints. Greenskins don't get armor piercing archers, so it is pretty much a meat grinder that you have to rely on sheer numbers to break.
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>>162292647
what this picture isnt showing us is that his army just almost got annihilated by a army full of gobbo archers
somehow he won the second battle in the town against the second army.
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>>162292906
More boyz

GET MORE BOYZ

YA GIT

And then you completely fucking surround dat gitz

Stunties will still fight to the last man on legendary but you'll win the trade if you've got em completely surrounded.
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>those odds
what the fuck, its nothing but skellies and zombos, I guess the +20 charge bonus to all units makes them reasonably dangerous but still
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>>162292906
early game dorfs die to skulkers, squigs, and great shaman buffs
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>>162292852

Their cost effectiveness has nothing to do with their ability to trade with other archers though, because in nearly any battle line they can't actually reach properly positioned ranged opponents.
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>>162292906

>Their archers suck

Goblin Archers are literally the best range unit in the game, senpai
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>>162293169
late game just have grimgor and 19 doom divers
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>>162292647
Why are german localizations so fucking cringey every time
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>>162293169
Black orcs in towers.

easy
>>
Skaven and Lizardmen when?
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>>162290451
Why would anyone ever want to play the High Elves? They are boring genericness: the faction. They've got nothing going for them. None of their units do anything interesting.

Chaos Dwarfs, on the other hand, are probably the most internally diverse and visually spectacular faction out of those not already in the game. It's typical that the best faction should be the least liked.
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>>162293104
SP.

Thorgrim is slapping my shit right now with his quarrelers. I was doing a Bloody Handz playthrough, but I got tired of seeing my savages get completely annihilated in just three or four volleys from Quarrelers. Greenskins Big 'Uns and Black Orcs are better, but they still just can't stand up to it. They are completely noncompetitive with archers, in every battle it seems like I am at their mercy and can only rely on throwing so many people at them they just can't shoot them all.
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>>162293169
arachnaroks black orks, that one ror black orks, your ork leaders themselves, trolls backed by orks, giants. these will be your anti dwarf, if it helps use the agents you have to break a hole or 2 in the wall before sieging goblin diver manual fire with insert can also smash their elite unit blocks
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>>162292972

Terrorgheist should win that fight though, it's anti large.
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>>162292906

>not spamming gobbo skulkers and squig for flanking

Are you even playing the Supreme Ruler of Eight Peaks?
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>>162293169
Have as many arachnarok as you can without feeling cheesy. Use them to fuck up the enemies formations and then send in the black orcs. They are great for AP so the grinder is in your favor.
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I hate playing the Greenskins. I love playing Crooked Moon and Bloody Hand. When will CA make Greenskins fun?
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>>162293392
use more boars then
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>>162293446
>Supreme Ruler of Eight Peaks
Why would Belegar have gobbo units?
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>>162293329
>localizations so fucking cringey every time
>cringey
how so?
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>>162293169
>>162292906
>got squigs
>I've got no AP, guise!

you win a WH Darwin award, congrats!
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>>162293520
because they are the best archers in the game?
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>>162293489
>Greenskins
>Not fun
get a load of dis git
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>>162293359
I assume you are retarded or don't know the roster but High Elves have some of the most interesting and flexible units in the game. 4 types of dragon and special weapons for each one, griffins, lion chariots, specialist sword and axe units, horse archer/combat hybrids, powerful magic, decent bolt throwers.
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>>162292998
Attila is meming but that there is actually just one army in shogun 2 makes it boring to me no matter how much polish it has.
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>>162291962
>their waifus are garbage
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>>162293446
>>162293301
Squigs got nerfed to shit because of multiplayer
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>>162293514

This. Do not use gobbo cavalry against Dwarfs. You need the AP from boars to tustle with quarrellers.
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>>162293674
They're not. The main Greenskin faction is boring.

Crooked Moon > Bloody Hand > Greenskins
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>>162293607
He is memeing.Hating on German localization is a reddit-tier meme.
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>>162293664
I don't have Squigs yet.

Is it actually worth using the herd? I was waiting to get the riders.
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>>162293687
Can't wait to see what CA cuts out
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>tfw half your mods still aren't updated

What's the difficulty cutoff for unlocking Boris and The Red Duke from the Beastmen and Wood Elf campaign? I wanna just auto resolve my way through it as fast as possible.
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>>162293271
Some auto resolves with the elves are dumb.
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This is the best generic Welf army I can think of.

Unsure about the treemen, might swap them for treekin and get shielded riders or a great eagle

>>162293392

If at very hard or above very hard: Don't use goblins

If not use goblins and keep them near your general, get army skills for your general first, use wolf riders, they're invaluable vs dwarfs, basically start using more goblins.

If you're playing at very high difficulty or legendary, well, you better start using the ambush stance.

Also get the goblin tinkerer asap, unless you have to build a gold mine.
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>>162293763
They're still statistically better than Squig hoppers against high armor targets as far as I can tell
They're just slower and not unbreakable in combat
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>>162293307
>Goblin Archers are literally the best range unit in the game
aren't they the bad? like isn't that the reason why people are saying WE archers are shit. because they got beat by gobba archers. one of the worst in the game.
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>>162293607
Everything is cringe when you're 12
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>>162293826
you can just auto resolve on very hard and get the achievment
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>Wood Elves are released extremely weak in winter
>are patched to be much stronger in spring

CA's artistry is wasted on /twg/
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>>162293805
Herd got nerfed a bit; I haven't used them in a while but I always chose riders anyways because of a bigger unit size and GOBBOS
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>>162293607
You have to hate your culture, it's the white hip thing to do.
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Wardancers have such a cool battlecry when they charge in.
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>>162294012
>muh seasons
remember kids, no seasons in warhammer :^)
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>>162293908

He's joking. They also only lose to goblins if the fight magically starts in goblin range, which is at least one volley of arrows shorter than elves.
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>162293706
Shogun 2 has unique units for factions if you shell out for DLC like a good goy. That said, I enjoyed the first Shogun more than Warhammer even if every japanese faction was literally the same roster wise. It felt well balanced and enjoyable without stupid shit like Katana Samurai. Kensais were bullshit without archers though.
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>this whole time we mocked Azhag for his starting units

Based Azhag was the only one who knew the true power of Goblin Archers
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Do you unlock anything different by beating the Elf campaign as Durthu?
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>>162294251
no
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>>162294067
>instead of a season mechanic taken from the beastmen dark moon we got an upgrade the tree mechanic
>still ended up with underpaths mechanic though

Why does CA love the retarded underpath mechanic so much?
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have we been supporting the wrong side?

best barks > worst elves
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>>162294486
It makes more sense for Wood Elves than Beastmen 2bh.
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>>162294067
There are in the minicampaign tho! Just the realm of eternal winter has been included tho, cause realm of eternal autumn would require them to spend up to 1 hour working on new game assets, which would be utterly un-Paradox-like and in fact very Charlemagne consuming.
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>>162293826
Autoresolving is a death sentence with the wood elves

You shoukd be fine on the Beastmen campaign, it has zero (0) difficulty
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>>162293908
Any ranged unit that cheap is amazing, gobbo archers can destroy handgunners point for point.

Best Welf units thus far:

>Durthu
That ranged attack holy fuck

>Wild Riders
will actually kill any ranged unit in seconds and survive to kill three more, perfect unit in every way.

>Treeman
amazing and fairly resistant to anti large units.

>Forest Dragon
Decent for a dragon too expensive in MP.

The archers are total shit, never seen them do better than 50 kills.
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>>162293752
It's not even a matter of looks Even though they're pretty cute, Wardancers and Life Spellsingers are great in battles.
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>>162294708
autoresolving as wood elves is MUCH easier than fighting the battles
especially against morghur
dont know about treebros
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>>162293826
>m-my cheat codes! I am nothing without them!
>>
>Want to start the Welf campaign
>all total war'd out after finishing my Empire campaign
am I missing on anything amazing?
>>
>finally confederated all the welfs so they wouldn't drag my trees into wars
>Orion is half the level Durthu is because he kept attacking people that btfo him
Now I just gotta fuck up chaos, vampires, angrund, hirn, and show the empire that they're retarded and need to do what I say.
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ty based treeman for never fearing
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>>162294936
cosmetics and camera mod though
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>>162294548
TREE TITS
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>>162295064
Those being outdated shouldn't keep anyone from playing.
>>
>tfw too poor for best elves.
>>
>>162295171
don't think they do. just the >cheat codes
comment. that's all.
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>>162295237

Ask them on twitter
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>>162295064
anon not that guy. but jesus, tick load out of date mods. it will work and your mods will work and all is well
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>>162295035
> our trees love blood!
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>>162294249
Poor Azhag was a hero, ahead of his time

only 6 months later we realize the mistake of our harsh judgement
>>
>>162294049
no they don't you autist
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>>162288839
>>162288936
>>
THERE'S A NEW EMPEROR IN TOWN

Seriously Boris' new ability is ridiculously good.
>>
>fight against two BM stack with ally
>same amount of units
>lose the battle because ally loses easily against superior BM units because it cant micro

JUST
>>
>>162294486
Because CA believes that chasing around after the A.I makes for good campaign design.
>>
>>162294989
just something amazingly bad
>>
>>162294249
Grimgor also starts with goblin archers, they just aren't remakable enough in his lineup to show on the campaign info screen
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>>162295495
>Boris' new ability
do tell
>>
>>162295495

Much closer on foot, probably because foot Boris doesn't have AP

Still he has a silver shield and 20 more MD

Boris seems to be, simply put, a superior version of Franz for less gold, unless you REALLY want Deathclaws bloodroar, always choose boris, unfortunately he doesn't keep his shield on the imperial Griffon
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Estalia is mine, King's Glade is secure. The 2nd army is underway.
Where to now?
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>Still no Morghur campaigns

I want to try it but too scared.
>>
Anyone else hear "weightwatchers" whenever the waywatchers are selected?
>>
>>162295684

Can get pegasus or Griffon, new pic related ability and his Runefang now restores health like Vlad's blood drinker
>>
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>>162295684
>>
>>162295869
Next logical step, Tilea

or grow some balls, do your research and Norsca genocide
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>elf shits get rekt by goblins

Asrai B T F O
>>
>>162295942
>>162295964
thats pretty badass
>>
>>162295972
b-but Tilea's fuckhuge with 3 stacks
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>Rename StainlessSteel folder
>Launch Americas
>shows americas load screen
>Closses

What the fuck?
>>
Are Wood Elves viable in multiplayer?
>>
Reminder: Remove raise dead from the next test.
>>
>>162296150
put this in your launch options instead
--features.mod=mods/SS6.3
>>
Hey did gook ever come back after someone posted a pic of his cum tribute?
>>
>>162296286
The new summon mechanic is so anti-immersive for VC and makes no fucking sense. Fair enough for shit like Cygors and Manticores but fuck off with some skeleton warriors or zombies, they've never made a difference.
>>
>>162278743
How do you get into the texture editing? There a basic intro into CA modding somewhere?
>>
>>162296373
Now I get this
>>
>>162296623
What? Raise dead is cool as fuck now, it costs 2 magic and you can use it 7 times with a short cd
>>
>>162296796
Did you rename SS back to SS6.3?
>>
>>162290451
are chaos dwarfs still a thing?
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Confederate with Durthu and found this...AI took agentspamming to a whole new level
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>>162297014
>>
>>162297014
What the fuck

Are you using mods?
>>
>>162297014
you gonna get stabbed
>>
>>162296856
Thanks if you need me to kick somebodies ass I got you
>>
>>162297014
>DowntonLA.jpg
>>
The only good goblin is a dead one
>>
NO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

WHERE IS IT

WHERE IS IT CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>162296623

No my man it would be broken as fuck, spawn a unit of skellies (only 3 mana) on top of some skirmishers or behind the line?

My dude that is already much stronger than what we previously had.
>>
>>162297318
I need more people for the play by e-mail campaign of SS6.4
>>
>eternal guard
>elite unit in tabletop
>literal shit unit that barely beats peasants in total war

Hmmmm
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>>162297014
>>
Is the new mini-campaign any good or do I just skip it and play grand campaign?
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>>162269195

Ultimate carpet.
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>>162297534
Well, Minotaurs were hideous garbage on tabletop but in Total War they're gods on the charge.
>>
>>162297630
thats a nice carpet
>>
>>162297628
Neither. Refund while you still can.
>>
>>162297651
>beatmen factions just spawn with silver chevron minotaurs and cygors

Nothing but artificial difficulty.
>>
New Thread
>>162297924
>>162297924
>>162297924
>>
Well Arch really liked the DLC. He seems pretty pro CA recently.
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>Dorfs running amuck in my territory and they are always just out of reach
What the fuck can I do
>>
>>162298908
Agent actions you fucking fuck
>>
>finaly finished exam and ready to play tree hugers.
>kill everything and get ready for final upgrade
>wild immortal goat appears.
>kill it time and time again
>finished upgrading my tree and final battle awaits
>get rekt by immortal goat
>alter army for the fight, 8 bow units ready to snipe
>shield goes down in 5 4 3
>my elfs wont fire, and walk into angry chaos spawn instead
>some shuffle around and cant fire
>shield up in 3 2 1
>one elf found his bow and fired but to late

Fuggin' reeeeeeeee I HATE THIS GOAT
I ended up getting rekt so many times because i could not target him
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>>162297630
my god wtf happened here
>>
>>162299163
they collectively realized they were in a shit game
>>
>>162299683
That's not warhammer though
>>
>>162299750
is it rome 2 though?
>>
>>162297190
Nope.. never even saw them during the minicamp.. They just sat there doing nothing
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Ah yes

>killing morghur within 80 turns and within 15 seconds of his barrier going down
>>
You want to hear a joke?
Wood Elves
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>mfw forest dragon loses to gobbo archers
I just wanted welves to be good, why did it turn out like this
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>Those top two reviews on steam for WE.
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