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>[Babylonia Release Gacha]
http://cms.fate-go.jp/web/2016/0jbeo7/
- From 12/7 to 12/21
- 5* Enkidu (Lancer)
- 4* Gilgamesh (Caster)(Bride)
- 4* Medusa (Lancer)

>5* Demonic Buddha
50% NP Charge, Increase Overcharge by 2 (1 time)
>4* Room Guarder
Star Attraction +300%, reduce 300 damage
>3* Seeker of Miracles
+15% NP damage up when equipped on Divine Servants

>[Events]
- 1/2 AP all Orders
- From 12/7 to 12/14 everyone is getting 2 Golden Apple per day
- Fate Project TV CE (+50 Mystic Code EXP)

>News
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php
- New ver - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones&androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game
- FGO Special Anime will air on 12/31. TV Project series confirmed for next year.
- Da Vinci-chan Code event Japan only
- Final Battle Raid event later this month, you need to clear Babylonia to participate

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/cJ9J0t45

>Extella spoilers
http://pastebin.com/9Ai1Tg9i

>FL Spreadsheet (last reset: Dec.7)
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org

>Alternate servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html

>CMs
http://www.mediafire.com/download/960gn6g6w2p0l8q/FGO+Material+I.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wj405jjjc9ly94e/FGO+Material+II.zip
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>>162218146
I NEED ISHTAR BUT I COULDN'T ROLL HER
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>>162217954
I guess that's the joke, Type Moon is allegedly one of the most cancerous fanbases on the internet.
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I heard Taiga is the free 3* Lancer.
Is she good?
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xth for femalemasterposters
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>>162218380
better than Enkidu somehow
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Strongest servant
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>>162218246
It's ok. That's not actually Ishtar.
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>>162218380
Better than both of the current gacha's gold lancers
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Nobu a CUTE.
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This goddess is my favorite! I won't stop until she becomes the strongest she can be!
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Do you think we'll see all 7 Beasts in GO, or will authors like Narita snag some of them for stuff? Seems like a good endgame for strange fake. And then to see if Prototype Beast appears in an adaptation or GO first.
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From BL

>Turns out that the end of the Age of Gods did not happen suddenly, but was actually a gradual process - which is generally divided into “deterioration” “dissolution” and “opportunity”;

>“Deterioration” refers to the period of decline of the mythological civilizations that began after a great calamity took place around 14.000 BC;

>“Dissolution” is the time around 2.600 BC (Gilgamesh’s era), when the relationship between humankind and the gods broke up in a definite manner. Seems that the laws of the world began to change around here;

>“Opportunity” dates in the vicinity of the 7th century BC, and points the occasion when the gods actually began to disappear from the face of the Earth;

>With the closure of the Age of Gods, the Mana (great source; the magic energy that fill the atmosphere) not only greatly decreased, but it also underwent a change in properties. The Mana of A.D. era is an artificial product called Ether, also known as 5th Imaginary Element. Meanwhile, the Mana of the B.C. era is the True Ether... aka. 5th True Theoretical Element (the thing Black Barrel from Notes is made from);

>The reason why such change occurred is not mentioned, but it has been hinted to be somewhat connected with the British Isles;

>Divine spirits were originally composed of True Ether. After disappearing from the face of the earth, they supposedly became hollow existences that watch over the world from another dimension;
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>>162218462
I need Rin in my life, anon.
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Is the Guda gland stronger than the Tohno gland now?
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>>162218586
Even better. Neither of them are Rin and are only using her body.
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>>162218380
Blows Enkidu out of the water
How can DW fuck up this bad
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>100%, 200%, 300%, 400%, 500% charge
>when NP gauge only goes to 300%
explain this
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>Rin, Taiga, and Illya servants
It's just a matter of time for Shirou, right?
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>>162218559
>Boys love
degenerate
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>>162218559
>We finally get a good explanation of the difference between the Fifth Imaginary and Fifth True Theoretical elements

Thank fucking god.
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>>162218551
Saved for the Extella universe titles Nasu wants to do
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What do you think?
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>>162218559
>>The reason why such change occurred is not mentioned, but it has been hinted to be somewhat connected with the British Isles;

Oh for fuck sake
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https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/5h9xz3/dear_people_who_said_enkidu_sucks_i_present_you/

/fgog/ BTFO
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>>162218659
you can chain Noble Phantasms to get an extra 100%
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>>162218559
>The reason why such change occurred is not mentioned, but it has been hinted to be somewhat connected with the British Isles;
So Arthuria not only fucked up Camelot, but the whole world?
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>>162218720
Unless one of Altera's siblings landed on Earth and became one of the beasts, seems unlikely.
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>>162218779
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How much would it cost to buy a big enough part of TM to be able influence writing?
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>>162218779
We know this since garden of Avalon
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>>162218779
We've known that since Saber killed the last dragon with Rhon.
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>>162218593
Considering the number of girls Guda has been exposed to verses the number Tohno was and the ratio of girls among those who fell for each respective protagonist, I'd say that the Tohno gland is more potent overall but that the Guda gland has a conceptual advantage against Divinity.
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>>162218892
I don't think the Tohno Gland has ever been put to the test on Divinity.
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>>162218593
Sorry but I am Guda. Finally I managed to surpass Hakuno, and soon I'm going to cuck him.
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>decide to roll 1 ticket for fun
>enkidu
>already have all the other gold lancers
t-thanks
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Cute witch was a bit overkill.
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>>162218892
>Guda gland has a conceptual advantage against Divinity.
He definitely seem to attract the goddess even euryale seem to like him not stheno though
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>>162218720
I really wish Nasu would quit with Extra and had left it at CCC. This franchise is growing outward when it should be building on what we already have. As much as I like Karna getting his time to shine in Extella, Extella was wholly unnecessary.
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>>162218593
Guda origin is the strongest of all, is the Main Character one or maybe dick, i dont know
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>>162218790
even shit 2 star like leonidas can do impressive stuff, that doesn't mean they are not shit for everyday play, it just mean they have a niche
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LIZ THREAD
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Best boy.
Now give him a buff, DW.
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the only Gil worth rolling for
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>>162219121
>even lizfag didn't bother doing an edit of liz wearing enkidu's moomoo
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Grand Servant God Grand Servants when?
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>>162219241
>enkidu's moomoo
What the hell is a moomoo?
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>>162219207
Remember when Takeuchi was foing to retire and said Enuma00 was his succesor? Good times.
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>>162218779
Arturia is going to be the Grand Grand Servant. She will have the abilities of all 7 Classes with EX in all stats and will be the games first and only 6*
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>>162219283
>THREAD
Right after we get Universe level Ea and Excalibur.
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>>162219207
would whale for
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>>162219336
Use google to find the answer
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>>162218815

Why do you think she has something to do with that?
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>>162219374
> Anti-Powerlevel Noble Phantasm EaXcalibur
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>>162219283
We already have one, why do you think his light is blue? Trunks even tried to copy him
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>>162219031
They spend all their time charming him in their interludes probably a good thing Ishtar didnt have hers which is even stronger
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>>162219437
The fuck does that have to do with anything?
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>>162218790
>Can't deny the fact that this isn't the right way to show how good servant is
Retard
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Guan Yu 5* when lads?
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>>162218559
Did the shift from Ether to True Ether happen at exactly the birth of Christ? Or was it sometime later? Because there wasn't shit going on in the British Isles until Arturia, and that was centuries in.
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When the fuck are they going to make a consistently good offensive caster
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Haven't played this game in almost a year, still as jew as ever?
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>>162219207
Will we ever get her?
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>>162218892
Guda has an over 85% seduction success rate though
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So I was considering the niches Enkidu could fill and I thought the best CEs for him would be
Kariya
Coco on the beach
Necromancy (if you want to gamble)
Black grail

What else would be good for them?
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>enkidufags BTFO
>medusafags BTFO
>gilfags BTFO for once
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>>162218790
Holy shit at the denial and the circlejerk/echochamber. Reddit really is cancer.
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>>162219454
Because this is fate and she has to do with everything
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>>162219553
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>>162219625
They tried to do that with Illya and Sanzou
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>>162219207
>rolling for Shitko when the best bride is already here
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>>162219646
Ex rank charm must of stolen it from Ishtar
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>>162219721
And what the fuck does a flower pattern dress have to do with it?
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You know it's really amazing that /fgog/ is a bigger shithole than BL,reddit, and facebook.

You should be ashamed
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>>162219751
they fucked up sanzou since they gave her busters and apparently didn't learn with illya
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>>162219698
Not really
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>>162219805
>Make joke about Enkidu wearing a moomoo
>And what the fuck does a flower pattern dress have to do with it?

I don't know retard. I really don't know.
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>>162219848
We'll never be worse then leddit, nice try
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>>162219882
Maybe if you explain what the fuck a moomoo is
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>>162219674
Caster Gil is good though
Works perfectly with Lancelot and Andersen
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>>162219848
r/grandorder is horrible, but I'd agree if that meant retards would stop posting here (Too bad that's pretty much impossible).
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>>162218790
>brave chain abuse
>tiamat hitcount charges NP so fast you can spam it every other turn

It's ok if you want to use only one servant in your party to make it viable
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Reminder that Enkidu only has 74 more ATK than Gorgon Medusa.
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How do you guys beat Quez with her buff?
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>>162219984
>Works perfectly with Lancelot
No he doesn't. Lancelot works with Waver and Merlin. Using a low tier trash like Gilgamesh along with him is an insult to the 10.0 and S rank Saber.
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CasGil is actually very fun

What's a good skill order for him
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>>162220030
Because of class modifiers?
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>>162218790
Fuck off back to where people actually think your shit servant is good then
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>>162219627
Oh yeah. The jewing has only gotten worse, and so have the threads.
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>>162220030
Why did DW fuck it up so bad, /fgog/? They had one job.
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>>162220064
Best Pharaoh.
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>>162220121
class modifiers are bullshit and i want to shoot the guy who thought it up
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>>162220118
Fuck off and eat shit gilfag
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Seven kings will come before the Beast rises from the sea. While it is of the seven, it is also the eighth and final king, with seven heads and ten crowns. Another Beast, the False Prophet, appearing as a lamb, will have risen from the Earth to lead the denizens of the world to worship the Beast of the Sea, constructing imagery of the seven-headed monstrosity and striking down those resist.

The Beast will rise from the sea that is the Holy Grail's muck, nourished by the souls of seven heroes who died in their pursuit to complete the ritual, though they did not know that they were adding to the image of the Beast. Eight masters will compete, numbered by the celestial hierarchy and added to by an eighth Master, bearing the rank of "Void." The role of the First, Seraphim, will be assumed by the False Prophet, as the Master of the Beast that has yet to come even though it already is. For she herself is one with the Beast even as she is also not.

The False Prophet will at once be the king that precedes the Beast and she is also mother of the Beast, and she herself will be the Beast. So the Mother of Harlots, the False Prophet, and the Beast of the Sea will be gathered in one, a Satanic trinity, giving virgin birth to itself.
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>>162220108
He seems to like being surrounded by Gils
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>>162219031
This >>162219521 . There's no way Stheno doesn't feel at least something towards Gudao.
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>>162220064
Cleopatra has the easiest time killing her. Jack can pull it off too but it's harder.
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>>162220030
>>162220121
>>162220238
Reminder Enkindu has 3 Quick in his deck which do 80% damage
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>>162219953
A moomoo is an oversized, loose dress. Usually worn as a nightgown or lazywear. The pattern isn't important. Enkidu's oversized white shirt is essentially a moomoo.
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If you told me Taiga would be a better servant in this game then Enkidu a month ago, I would've told you to fuck off.
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>>162220208
Is it due to her Divinity? I will try borrowing her from my support
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>>162218559
>Originally, the effect of this Noble Phantasm was to amplify, supplement & strengthen his magic, but - by performing ritual magic by means of the magical power of the blade, and employing the five elements as catalyst - a temporary pseudo-composition of True Ether from the Age of Gods is also possible.
Dr. Phil delivers.
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>>162220238
The biggest problem is that classes like Caster get a lower modifier and low stats on top of it. Class modifiers would be fine if they were more like a bonus for each knight class and base 1.0 for cavalry since knights are better for combat.
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>>162220278
Literally comedy gold around him, of course he would laugh.
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>>162219721
I was the anon who originally asked the question and now I get it though his outfit always struck me more as one of those Mecca robes.
Lizfag never edits Liz's outfits though and wouldn't look good in the moomoo.
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>>162219876
Illya and Sanzou are fine/ they need an interlude. NR is a good arts offensive caster
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>>162218559
>>The reason why such change occurred is not mentioned, but it has been hinted to be somewhat connected with the British Isles;
Sumanai
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>>162220287
Hard to say euryale a tsundere so it easy to tell she likes him stheno just really stuck up
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>>162220118
All of his skills are good so I'm also having trouble deciding which one to level first, but I think I'm going to go with 2>1>3. But it differs depending on what role you want him to take.
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>>162220064
She has a buff? I don't even remember what I did on my battle with her. I don't remember her having any actual gimmick like the Knights in Camelot that made the fight hard.

I've refused to use a party that doesn't involve any of my 5* and since Cleo is my only 5* assassin then my guess would be that she destroyed her with support from Nero Bride and the others.
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>>162220251
When do you think I will have time and patience to read all this shit?
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>>162220509
It's a face of content.
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>no good Ishtar x Gudao art
hurry up nips
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>>162220631
She takes no damage from Good Servants, half from Evil and all from Neutral.
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>>162220030
When will they buff him? People are actually really angry about this? DW could get away with making terrible oc's because they're brand new but Enkidu was HYPED. They should have just made him a tank version of Gil. I literally can't tell what they were going for? Some people said they looked like they were trying to make him a Lancer Jack but his skills don't look that way.
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>>162220719
Now.
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>>162220775
So I have no Good Servants? I think I'd have noticed bullshit like that.
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>>162220514
>Lizfag never edits Liz's outfits
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>>162220850
He'll get buffed right after Iskander does.
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>>162220850
They were trying to make him worst than Scat.
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>>162220856
But it's cluttered and pretentious and there's a pic of Manaka there.
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Don't open this, I'm warning you
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Is it true that Amakusa went to the forest and never came back?
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>>162220941
>Liz in a Liz outfit though
I mean youre not wrong.
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>>162220989
You just described Fate as a whole.
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>>162221030
Yes taiga probably killed him
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>>162220856
Why don't you do it?
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>>162221064
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>>162221030
Probably wandered of into the desert to find a catalyst for Semiramis. He failed. Semi will never appear now and semifag is eternally BTFO.
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>>162221156
Same shit singing.
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>>162220457
>a temporary pseudo-composition of True Ether from the Age of Gods
Basically, it's the equivalent of a Chinese bootleg that oxidizes into nothingness if you turn your back for a second and it's not vacuum sealed.
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>>162220948
Nobody cares about Iskander anymore.
>>162220970
Fucking DW.
I know they're trying to go for balance but making literally every gold Lancer completely inferior to Scat on purpose is wrong. Taiga and Cu out class pretty much every 5 and 4* Lancer who isn't Scat.
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>>162219027
I went with Medea Lily and Irisviel but Merlin is honestly all you need for that fight since his NP regens stack and Gorgon gives you ridiculous NP.
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If we ever get a Beast Servant, what do you think the card art will look like?
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>>162221226
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>>162219876
There is a reason sanzou and illya have buster np.
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So I had a thought for a new kind of Interlude type thing.

What if you unlock certain Interludes that boost a certain servant by having another Servant?

For example, Jack's Surgery skill is kinda crap, yeah? But if you have Sanson, since he's got plenty of medical training, you can have an interlude that ends up with him teaching her better anatomy by killing things or whatever, and she gets a better Surgery skill from it.


Anyone got anything else that could work like that?
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Exp mission upgrade fucking when
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>>162221440
Artoria can't keep getting away with this.
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>>162218438
How does Taiga fare in NP damage?

Is she on THE CHART yet?
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>>162221425
Imagine something with line work by Takeuchi and coloring by Koyama.
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>>162221425
we won't get a beast servant look at Tiamat's fucking profile she's an anti humanity abomination
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>>162220887
She did not buff when you fought her the first time.
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>>162221519
Shit son, what chapter drops this?
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When is next event or Solomon?

I'm bored already

>>162221598
15 in story
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>>162221598
Gil chapter
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Irisviel is the cutest.

Are you happy with your rolls for Babylon?
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>>162221560
Nothing that can't be cured by the cock.
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>>162221656
Rolled 13 tickets and got nothing past two new CEs and Derrmud NP4.
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>>162221202
top kek
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>>162219646
>>162219795
I made a list. Special Circumstances are servants who love Guda because of some aspect of their summoning or unusual factor like the fact that Serenity will fall for literally anybody she can snuggle with without killing them or Kiyo and Raikou being specific flavors of crazy due to ME. I think that therefore these can't be attributed to any effect of the Guda gland.
I was going to do a list for males too and also format this differently for readability but got bored and decided this was stupid half-baked bullshit anyway so whatever.
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>>162221437
same flat chest
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>Ishtar's temple
My fucking sides.
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>>162221019
Taiga is cute.
CUTE.
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Well going in blind has been quite the experience.

>Using the mystery servant that ended up being Merlin in a mission full of Riders.
>all these awful story servants, literally only Merlin ever helped with the missions with one expection where Gorgon(just found out who she was) kept recharging Medusa's NP allowing multiple NP stuns
>All the battles that ended up after certain amount of turns/damage?
>That battle with the weird thing that has 500k HP but just let me attack it to death without firing back
>Just found out about Quetz guimmick
>dialogue options that affect the quest

Does Taiga have a gimmick too? She looked like she had a buff from the start but never quite figured out what the fuck it did.

Pretty fun all around. Still have to do mission 21 but I think I saw all the "surprises" they had after Avenger Gorgon showed up so I can finally use /fgog/ again.
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Dear DW, can I please have at least one male 5* Saber?
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>lolidusa
>Gorgon
Yanagi better get on this ASAP, the latter most importantly.
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>>162220623
I was thinking of going 2>1>3 as well only because I don't really have a good Arts servant to team with him

Did you get all the Richard tails he needs? Only thing motivating me to speed through Babylon desu

>>162221656
Did like 6 ten rolls and 7 tickets for Enkidu.
Got CasGil, Nero and Damedusa as well as the Kiara and Jinako CEs
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>>162221805
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>>162221998
If you haven't read the general at all, you are in for a big surprise.
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>>162221656
Fuck off Kerry
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>>162221998
>Probably didn't even use King Hassan when given the option for the final battles

Lameo
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>>162221030
Him and Fuuma Kotarou. Taiga ate them.

sexually
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Now that Caster Gil exists and he's objectively better than all other versions of Gil seen so far, is it perhaps time for the other versions to finally retire once and for all? They're unnecessary now.
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>>162221998
21 is pretty hype. Best chapter.
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>>162221998
You'll enjoy Chapter 21. Pick the gold Support whenever you can for a nice surprise.
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>>162222051
I've gotten 4 so far and I'm at chapter 16. So probably not.
At least he only needs 5 for 70->80.
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>>162221805
There is someone missing.
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>>162221805
Drake said she'd go for a toss with Guda in Okeanos, also Chev does like Guda

Sanzou likes Guda too, Arturia Lancer had an entire interlude about liking Guda, Hundred Face worships Guda, Nitocris has a line implying sex with Guda, normal Shiki doesn't like Guda in that way

Euryale and Stheno should be on the list, Euryale has ship fuel with Asterios but she also has some strong waifu lines
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>>162221656
No, I rolled 300+ quartz for ishtar and nothing.
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>>162221551
No one's gotten real numbers but basically take Grailed Cu's damage and add a 30 percent buster buff and attack buff. Probably hitting higher then NP1 Scat damage on non divine bosses. If I didn't have Scat, I'd grail her easily.
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Quetz-chan is Chapter 12 node 3 right? A support Celo does a lot against her right?
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>>162222108
Is it this? >>162222126
I guess it's a surprise but I could care less about anything related to Hassans. Will still use him but whatever.

>>162222197
>>162222271
I guess. The last missions have been pretty tiresome with the same fucking boring enemies in every single one I couldn't bring myself to keep going through that just yet.

It's even making me want to drop the Olga and Mashu CE and put together a better team with good CEs to finish it quickly.
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>>162222180
All Gils are perfect and fulfill different roles.
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Sakura when
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>>162222516
yeah, decent damage and good survivability
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>>162222548
I read that as
>fulfill different holes
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>>162222531
Lot goes on at the end in general, its like HF
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>>162222347
>Arturia Lancer had an entire interlude about liking Guda
That's not really what it's about, though. Guda is urged to confess just for the sake of getting a reaction out of Artoria. She doesn't really know how to handle it, but the fact that it gets a very awkward human reaction out of her is important because it helps her see that she's not like the Lion King.
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I wanna fuck Astolfo.
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>>162221656
I got two of the new gold CEs and Enkidu with just 12 quartz, so I'm happy.
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>>162222554
Wait for the curry Order.
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>>162221656
>rolling a gacha filled with garbage

Waiting for the Quetzalcoatl rate up.
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>>162222448
Getting her to NP5 would be difficult though if she get the same treatment like Bedi with no rate up.
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>>162222772
>garbage
>wants shemale
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Grand Avenger-Caster-Lancer-Rider Odin when?
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>>162222615
That too.
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>need 30 Soft Hair
>1 full AP bar later only 1 dropped
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>>162222783
the best time would be the babylon part 2 gatcha then since she should be on rate up
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>>162222772
When is cirno gonna fix camelot page? it's broken and I was waiting to do the order until now because of half ap
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>>162221656
Kiara CE with two tickets. Got the best thing out of there with little cost.
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>>162222906
He's dead
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>>162221656
Did 4 10 rolls and got Enkidu and Lolidusa still have 470 quartz left. I also got the Kiara CE and 4 Jinakos.

Super happy with my Babylon rolls. I waited, budgeting my quartz, for over a year and it was worth it.
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>>162222926
This thing is busted if you have things like Cleo, Cu Alter and the like right?
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>>162222958
Since Iri was free I saved up for loli Medusa and managed to get get within two ten rolls
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>>162222906
Just use the reddit wiki you baby.
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>>162222669
You're not alone.
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>>162223025
But I liked Cirno and I'm not retarded enough to use reddit
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>>162223013
Good on you.
Loyalty to your favorite characters works fucking wonders once their gachas are in.
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>>162223063
I wanna stick my dick in it
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So she basically got to star in a Fatalpulse doujin?
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>>162222347
>Euryale and Stheno should be on the list, Euryale has ship fuel with Asterios but she also has some strong waifu lines
Euryale yes stheno not really their personality are surprisingly quite different
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Other than Mother Harlot, anyone left in the datamine who could be another Beast?
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>>162223307
I don't think Asanagi does vore like that
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>>162223307
Literally BLACKED.
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>>162223353
He did a kancolle thing that was basically vore corruption turning boats into whatever the evil boats in that game are.
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>>162222783
Is she not part of the FP summon?
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>>162223482
oh yeah I guess that sorta counts
bit of an outlier compared to the rest of his work though
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>>162223351
Diarmuid.
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So what the fuck is the nip going to do with Merlin now?

>Pretend Waver wasn't that good all along and drop him to put Merlin in his place
>Bump everyone one rank to make place for Merlin
>New tier for Merlin
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>>162223353
Was she eaten? I thought she was just dumped in the Tiamat's sea.
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What is this SecondArchive thing for?
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>>162223351
Sakura
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>>162223307
>>162223353
This is pretty much what Tiamat did to Ushi:
https://exhentai.org/g/735982/d0c1cdc253/
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>>162223539
Story Locked like Bedi-chan.
But since she's not spoilers incarnate like him, she'll probably get rate ups.
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I'm not crying man, it's just the sweat from my face from the battle! Totally not crying.
Leonidas ;-;
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>>162223307
>Sea of Life: EX
>The Beast II is the sea of life itself. As she is circulating the True Ether of Genesis, unlimited magical energy is being supplied in her ocean. Those who are captured by the black mud and sink into the sea will receive at random skills like Self-Modification, Bio-transformation, Bio-merging, Self-replication. When they leave the sea, they will be subjected to a geas on the cellular level with the Beast II (an amino-geass) and automatically be turned into an enemy of humanity
Maybe she just took a bath?
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What ever happened to Girl's Work?
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>>162223608
>Saber Diarmuid is the beast relating to the original sin for deception/lying
Do it Mushroom Man.
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>>162223770
Made by actual girls so it got dropped because women are useless
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>>162223721
I'm sure he was happy to die for your cause.
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>finally got Eli and Seiba's Level 10 Bond CE
>"great I can finally use this useless things to flaunt to myself my hard wor..."
>realize I have to dump Eli and Seiba from my team to make room to other servants to maximize bond farming

JUST
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Is Beast weak or strong against anything?
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>>162224048
>tfw don't have the bond CE
How long will it take me, anons?
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>>162223351
Giga Johnny-kun
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>>162223482
He done a doujin with that shitty cat girl anime where they chopped them up into pig food or something iirc

That or I'm mistaking it with another doujin of his where it happens
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>>162224118
Manjew with his Bond CE.
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>>162223874
It's not fair. He even took his helmet off and smiled before this fight. He wasn't supposed to die.
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>>162224204
iirc the focus was more on them being killed than being eaten afterwards for that one
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>>162224204
Oh wait that was the tera one actually
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>>162223353
His Danmachi doujin ended on a vaguely vore-y note, too.
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>>162224294
That's why you summon him and grail him to 100 like how I'm trying to do.

He's just on 75 right now though because I stopped playing for a few months and missed some grails.
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>>162224204
I'm not sure if butchering and consuming counts under the vore fetish or not. I'd assume the fetish is more about being swallowed rather than butchered and cooked, though.
He did that for the cat girl anime and for Tera, I think.
Not at all related to corruption at any rate.
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>anon actually came on a picture of ishtar and uploaded
/fgog/...i
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post Gudasexuals
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>>162224501

Link where
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>>162224501
Is loli Medusa? I haven't seen any translations.
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>>162224529
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I was thinking who we would fight on the way to Solomon in his temple, then I remembered he had all those demons.

All of the goetia demons were marked as Beast class in the datamine. It was spoilers to see the beast marker before Babylon since seeing it indicates what numeral the beasts are. All of the beasts in Babylon are under the jurisdiction of Numeral II, I assume all of Solomon's demons are a different numeral which will indicate a different super demon lord.

Maybe they'll all fuse together in Solomon's fortress and become a true Beast class monster. Since individually they've lost a bit of credibility lately, even though each one is supposed to be as strong as a few servants or something.
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What happens if you put King Hassan and Lancer Vlad in the same party?
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>>162224595
fuck meant for >>162224529
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>>162224529
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>>162224679
Have a bigger one.
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> Pick the lone unknown gold support for Chapter 20
> that Np and those animations
MUH DICK
Definitely saving quartz for them
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>Taiga got to be in the game before Sakura
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>>162224712
Solomon NP is linked to the numeral 1 beast somehow
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>>162224951
Where did her nose go?
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Say goodnight to Lancelot, guys
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>>162221656
>two loli sneks
>liz
>no mud boy
No. No I am not.
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>>162224973
You gotta remember that they specifically noted it was his third NP for some reason
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>>162224901
No need to be vague, dipshit.
Everyone knows it's King Hassan.
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>>162223721
>Not using his shield
COME ON MAN, PERSEUS?
YOU'RE GREEK
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>>162225010
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How did the memelist ranked the new Servants?
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Don't let your memes become dreams; I can only imagine this with maxed skills.
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>>162224529
>>
What do you guys think about the chance of getting the game released globally?
Would you guys continue to play the japanese version, get on the english version or play both?
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>waifufags claiming Ishtar will not be a villain
>you fight her like 3 times over
WAIFUFAGS BTFO AGAIN
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>>162225272
>all atk is <10k
I even rolled Enkidu and leveled him up to 80 like you but this doesn't seem very effective.
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>>162225304
I'd play both but I'd rather have an english option like Granblue
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>>162225304
I'd keep playing the jp version I'm not giving up my account or going back to that old content especially since it'd be bound for censorship
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>>162225304
The chinks are barely on Okeanos, I don't want to go through every order from Fuyuki all the way to Babylon again
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>>162225304
Only if the audio was dual. I don't want to know how badly they'd butcher the voices.
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>>162224973
>The Seal of Solomon (or Ring of Solomon; Arabic: Khātam Sulaymān خاتم_سليمان) is the signet ring attributed to King Solomon in medieval Jewish tradition, later also in Islamic and Western occultism.
>This ring variously gave Solomon the power to command demons
>In Islamic eschatology, the Beast of the Earth is equipped with both the Staff of Moses and the Seal of Solomon and uses the latter to stamp the nose of the unbelievers.
>The Arabic writers declare also that Solomon received four jewels from four different angels, and that he set them in one ring, so that he could control the four elements. The legend that Asmodeus once obtained possession of the ring and threw it into the sea, and that Solomon was thus deprived of his power until he discovered the ring inside a fish
>King Solomon's Third Noble Phantasm. The 「|」 of original sin.
>At a first glance it looks like a ring of light

And then if we jump from Islam to Christianity in terms of Beast of the Earth
>His purpose is to promote the authority of the first beast with the ability to perform great signs, even making fire come down out of Heaven.
>even making fire come down out of Heaven.
>Unfortunately, there is nothing on the surface of the Earth that surpasses the heat value of this Noble Phantasm.
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>>162225272
Why Iri?
Why Twice?

>>162225304
Try and play both, wouldn't throw my account away that's for sure.
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>>162225304
I would make an english account for story only and just watch anything too hard to clear with a shit team on youtube.
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>>162225304
I'm all for an english language version, but the servers are still abysmal. They would have to severely upgrade them if they release it globally, as I don't think any company will offer to host it for global use.

The anime should be fine anyway. The story seems pretty good and that will get subbed so I'm not too bothered. It's not like it will be that popular overseas.
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>>162224743
Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
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> encounter with Enkidu and Richard
> go in with Merlin, Kerry, Scat team
> never let him get NP off because of stuns and NP down
> get multiple Merlin NP heals off
> end at Max HP

Merlin is OP.
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>>162219207
>Bond Level 10 Gil-ko uses Enuma Elish the first time you ask her to
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>>162225304
>Game comes out in English
>They release all of the events we've had in order
>Forced to experience dango hell all over again
I don't know if it's worth it
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>>162225582
So what was up with this at the beginning of Babylon? Was Guda having a weird dream?
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>>162224679
>>162224743
>>162225582
Haven't been following the threads lately, did we finally learn what's up with him?
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Is there a full render of King Hassans art or at least a sprite rip? Because his design is rad as fuck.
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>>162225720
He's just your local doctor that's concerned about your well being.
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>>162225690
Mashu's dream.
You get dreams from that literal semen demon Tiamat instead.
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>>162225582
>Nicest Person Twisted You Will Fucking Ever Meet Psychopath
The fuck does that mean?
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Are we sure cuteblonde is Eresh? Her Moon name is the same as Ishtar's.
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Does Medb have the highest HP out of any Rider? If so, that might be the only reason to use her over Kintoki in the Solomon raid event, he outdoes her in pretty much any other way except stalling.
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>>162218559
>The reason why such change occurred is not mentioned, but it has been hinted to be somewhat connected with the British Isles;
I think it was Rhon blasting the fuck of Vortigern.
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>>162225749
>literally deathknight.jpg
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>>162225804
>Her Moon name is the same as Ishtar's.
only for the first few encounters with her, it's エレシュキガル later on
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>>162225570
Back up heal in case things get hairy for Mashu or Iri, NP heal+ guts to survive an AoE NP if I don't want to swap, both Iri and Mashu have invulnerable skills + arts chains.
2030 for a hopeful crit if I want to use some enkidu cards and because Mashu has a skill to drastically increase her NP gain making a damage one pointless and a charge one overkill.

survival meme; I was considering Anderson instead of David for his NP but I figured the clutch dodge works better.
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>>162218815
What makes you think that? True Ether is something gods needed, not humans. By destroying or thining that, it means gods can't fuck with humans anymore.

So age of men begins.
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>>162225806
>stalling

Just take cake
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Who best girl and idol here?
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So when is Dr Roman going to reveal himself as a backstabbing bastard and the evil mastermind behind all this?
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>>162219618
No.

It's all mentioned in Garden of Avalon. Avalon is a depository of TRUE Ether.
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>>162225806
Why do you think Medb is worth discussing?
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>>162224973
When did this happen? It's not in his servant profile.
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>>162226140
I was wondering seeing as we have a Raid event against Grand Caster coming up. I don't see what the issue is.
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>>162223721
He's the one who identifies Gorgon for everyone, and she recognises him too. Just saying.
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>>162226167
Tiamat is the "II" of Original Sin, and Beast II.

>King Solomon's Third Noble Phantasm. The 「|」 of original sin.
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what is this choice, tl pls weebs
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>>162225547
So Tiamat is the beast of the sea and Solomon demons and his 3rd NP is linked to the beast of the earth
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>we're in Babylon
>quests STILL drop bronze EXP cards
FOR
WHAT
PURPOSE
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You guys said this choice was super hard mode.
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>>162225804
Her name change later and she's definitely a god of the underworld
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>>162226228
>Thinking that Grand Caster will have any weaknesses
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>>162226486
didn't you already post this a few threads ago
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>>162226131
>Avalon is a depository of TRUE Ether.
Isn't that the whole backside of the world
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>>162226539
He should, they're not beast class.

>>162225969
To add to this, with the newly evolving meta it's too soon to rule out a servant. Sure this is a drastic example but no servant is objectively bad.
Especially with what we have seen with Merlin, King Hassan, beast class and the new map gimmicks.

TL;DR
He's a 5 star clutch lancer like Cu except you don't have to grail him and obviously not as good but not bad.
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post Ishtar chibis
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Where is morgan le fay nasu
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>almost 200k on a neutral enemy without double Waver memes or a CE
Damn, either NP5 is broken as fuck or this guy hits like a tank.
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Best CEs for Ishtar? Seems like the new goddess one might not be bad since her overcharge is pretty damn good.
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>>162227435
We might not be able to even summon him.
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>>162227478
Drunk Jeanne is pretty good
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>>162225105
He does use his shield, silly. It wasn't good enough. It's just a very high quality mundane shield, it doesn't have the conceptual power necessary to block Gorgon's gaze.
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>>162227435
>2 buster buffs
>2 attack buffs
>NP5
>All of your stats are buffed
I wonder
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Manaka when?
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Is there a way to play on emulator?
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>surplus ap
>late as fuck
What do?
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>>162227546

Who even beats someone as unimaginably powerful as Gorgon Medusa?
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Why is this so lewd?
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>>162227574
>OP'd loli
It's only a matter of time.
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>>162227614
I do, with my dick.
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>>162227614
You mean other than Perseus?
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>>162227435
>king hassan and mashu are the only servants so far who have a NP with a front view
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>>162227614
Gilgamesh,Emiya,Perseus, almost any decent hero.
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Merlin is really, REALLY good, but I don't think he's going to completely replace Waver. Or even Tamamo. Merlin can't effortlessly facilitate triple Zerker XP farming teams like Waver can, he doesn't have NP drain, and has a Buster buff in contrast to Tamamo's Arts buff.

He'd probably be really good paired with either of them in a raid, though.
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>>162227614
It's self
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>King Hassan is only Presence Concealment A
>E luck and mana
>C rank NP
>drama CD reveals that Sphere Boundary functions the same as Presence Concealment does in that it loses effectiveness when an attack is prepared due to manifesting the will to inflict harm detaches the individual from the world they're hiding within

Will Assassins ever be good at what they do?
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>>162227478
the Nero gacha ce
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>>162227915
He's not better than Waver, sure, but you have to be a delusional Tamamofag if you think he's not better than her.
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>>162227771

I want to watch anon pound Gorgon Medusa in her big, fat, greasy pussy until he nuts!
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Would you entrust Gil with your lolis?
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>Cleo's NP can actually kill herself
Well that's different.
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>>162227915
>>162228078
he certainly makes nightingale obselete
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>>162226736
Which is what Avalon is.
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>>162227915
Aside from Arts memes and liking the fox slut there's literally no reason to use Tamamo over Merlin
>Better healer than Tamamo
>Has a team invulnerability skill
>Better at NP spamming because of his charisma and the stackable NP gain buffs his NP gives
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>>162228118
Hers isn't the only NP that can kill the user, Tesla can do the same with his.
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>>162228078
He'll never be better than her on an arts meme team.
Waver+Tamamo is better than Waver+Merlin if that's you're main focus, unless Merlin also happens to reduce cooldowns which makes this point moot.
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>>162228118
Killing herself is the entire reason she can be an assassin, after all. She assassinated a pharaoh.
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>>162228118
It's a nice reference to how she actually did kill herself in life with snake poison
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>>162227936
Why be good in concealment when you're Azrael, the angel of death.
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>>162228173
Avalon is only one small island on the other side of the world. There are many hundreds of places over there on the other side.
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>>162228078
I didn't say he wasn't, I just said he isn't capable of completely replacing her. There are some Arts meme setups where she's pretty fucking valuable, especially with her bond CE.

>>162228195
And there's also skill spam.

>>162228151
Maybe? She hits harder than he does, and you could always use them together.
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>>162228173

Avalon is just the deepest layer of the world, the other side of the world (calling it backside is weird because it's not Gaia's ass) consists of every layer except the one that humans live in
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>>162228118
?

what are you even talking about
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>>162227915
for my usual squad of saber alter and jeanne alter i think i want him more than waver, ces make them charge NP relatively quickly anyway

dunno though it's situational, if nothing else waver is definitely a better all-rounder but the buster up/crit damage is too good to say no to with jeanne alter
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>>162228116
Sure why not.
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>>162225720
He was Solomon all along it was me Ritsuka it was me all along
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>>162228273
Its not even the deepest layer. Its just a place on the other side.
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>>162228297
In that setup, I'd personally consider running Liz.
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>>162228309
This is extremely canon.
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>>162228151
If you're literally only bringing Nightingale for her Buster Buff, sure.
But she'll certainly deal more damage than he will in an offensive support role.
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>>162228398

No, it's the deepest and most fundamental layer of Gaia's reality marble. It's where all the fairies live.
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>>162227915
I love how all of of merlin's skills beats most servant's best skills
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>>162228265
And she also gets hit harder than him because she's a Berserker who is somehow supposed to be a support servant yet is weak to everything except Shielder
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>>162228406
i think my liz is np4 or something

i'm just too lazy to max her and do her strengthening quest, is the charisma buff that good?
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>>162228309
Gil would totally do this
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>>162228309
Given what we saw from this chapter. It's actually fairly believable.
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>>162228473
Love how his second skill is better than Jeanne NP.
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How are you supposed to kill Quetz?
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>>162228494
It's literally Dragon Witch but for women instead of dragons.

So it would be like running Saber Alter with two Jeanne Alters buffing her. Except one Jeanne gets the buff too.
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>>162228494
Yes it is, this is coming from someone who hates Liz; not that guy.
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>>162228116
Yes. Gil is best around a loli, ergo it takes lolis to bring out the most awesome version of Gil.
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>>162228529
even has a shorter cooldown than enkidu's heal
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What if they purposely made Merlin this ridiculous because he'll only show up as a support in the story, never rollable?

It's a good thing there's too much money to be made for that to ever happen.
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>>162228309
>>162228512
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>>162228559
Stall for 6 turns. Unless there is a later fight I'm not up to yet.
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>>162228642

Well he's still not dead yet so yeah he probably won't ever be properly summonable
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ascension mats sure are grindy in this game

i'm trying to collect baby homuculus things and its going to be about 20 years of farming london
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>>162228659
Impliying he shouldn't be able to kill her before that.
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>>162228727
S-sona... bakana!
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>>162228642
Nothingvember was a thing that happened. Money and sense are both meaningless to DW.
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So who will our helpers be for fighting Solomon?
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>>162228727
local man ruins everything
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>>162228650
I always liked that they invited old man Terry Bogard to appear in this scene.
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>>162228782
David and queen Jezabel.
Make it personal.
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>>162228780
DW doesn't even get that much money it all gives to Sony and TM
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>>162228782
Grand Saber Arturia
Grand Archer Swimsuit Arturia
Grand Lancer Lion King Arturia
Grand Rider Santa Alter
Grand Berserker Lion Saber
Grand Caster Merlin
Grand Assassin MHX
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>>162228867
Just According to Keikaku
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>Ishtar says she's 70% Ishtar, 30% Rin in terms of personality.

Pretty close to what some anons here predicted.
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>>162228867
Kerry has been ruining everything since he was a child. He went on a nonstop ruining spree. He was at an all-you-can-ruin buffet. The world is a much more horrible place because a useless son of a bitch named Emiya Kiritsugu was born into it.
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So how hard does Gilgameme get BTFO'd this chapter then? I know he can only summon mediocre servants as a canon fact, proving that he is below Medea-tier as a Caster, but I haven't heard much about him jobbing. It has to happen at least once though. He is the King of Jobbers, after all.
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>>162229036
Kirei go home.
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>>162228780
Just finished the 2M fight versus Tiamat. Why the fuck did DW cap it to 15 turns, spamming GoA was the shit.
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>>162228960
You forgot
Grand Ruler arturia
Grand Shielder arturia
Grand avenger arturia
Grand Beast arturia
Grand God arturia
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>>162228995
http://raw.senmanga.com/Fate_Zero/69/1
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>>162228960
>Grand Caster Proto Merlin (female+Saberface)
Fixed.
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>>162229015

Or in other words, Ishtar + Ishtar = more Ishtar since Rin's personality is a carbon copy of Ishtar's
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>attack buffed Quetzalcoatl kills Cleo from full in one turn
This is not how I expected this to go.
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>>162228960
>>162229125
Takeuchi and Kawasumi, go home.
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They should have made Geronimo a girl.
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>>162227891
Emiya lost to her in five seconds.
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>>162229036
Fuck off, Kayneth
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>>162228960
I want this only because it'll make Merlin happy.
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>>162229015
Yeah, I expected as much;
She really helps her sympathize with humans.
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>>162228718
Unless you need them RIGHT FUCKING NOW, your best bet is to wait for an event to have them.
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>>162227936
Hundred is honestly one of the most dangerous assassins seen yet.
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>>162229148
Did you choose top option?
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>>162229248
Not having the ability to make people do whatever you want probably helps too
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>>162229036
Still BTFO, Angra?
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>>162229050
He summoned Merlin and though he had almost no power left from summoning Merlin, summoned another seven servants.
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>>162229192
I'd be willing to settle for Geronimo being useful.
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>>162229343
Prove it, Gikeker. I don't want more of your headcanon.
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>>162229036
Stop shitposting, Arturia
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>>162229330
Yeah, Tohsaka helped limit it forcing her to see things from her vessels/human perspective.
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>>162229304
I knew the top option would buff her attack, but I didn't expect it to enable her to crit a max fou level 90 servant to death instantly through class disadvantage.
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Fill in the blank on my team please

Scathach/Ishtar/_____
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>>162229463
Karna
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>>162229438
Well you found out the reason people have been saying to do bottom option.
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>>162229036
>>162229424
>>162229332
>>162229219
>>162229121

Wow, Kerry pissed a lot of people off
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So Gilgamesh confirmed an actually crazy good magus?

Aside from obviously using his GoB tools and factories and shit to replicate Item Creation for him.
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>try to use Shiki to kill Quetzal
>can't damage her at fucking all
I don't understand, it's a fully buffed single-target Assassin NP
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>>162229463
Jack
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>>162229463
Jack with 2030
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>>162227936
So, can Fake Assassin copy King's NP?
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>>162229463
You need a star generator so Jack
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>>162229392
Maybe read the order melvin :^)
>>162229463
Mashu or Hans, those two will be fighting for stars, Ishtar will get most of them and building Scathach's NP will be a bit troublesome.
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>>162229463
Waver. Or some Servant with good crit gen.
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>>162228995
meanwhile 10 years and 2 routes later...

http://raw.senmanga.com/Fate-Stay-Night-Heaven's-Feel/20/1
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>>162229527
They don't give away Mr. Congeniality Awards in Grail Wars
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>>162229540
Shiki is good aligned.
Quetzal ignores damage from good aligned Servants in that fight.
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>>162229537
He's a potential Grand Caster.
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>>162229540
Neutral and Evil servants only. Good servant's can't hurt her.
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>>162229280
I kind of do, I am hitting the limit on storing 4* exp mats and have no one to spend them on. 3 of my people are bottlenecked by the homunculus babies.

it is suffering
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>>162229540
Only Neutral (Secondary) and Evil Servants are able to damage Quet. Evil Servants will do half damage I believe. Don't quote me on that I just used Ozzy and Cleo for that fight
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>>162229463
Waver with 2030
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>>162229537
He can be grand caster also he also mentions being able to see though what spells people are using all the way back in UBW
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>>162229540
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>>162229564
>:^)
>cant provide a source to prove his headcanon

hahahahaha, more evidence that Gilc/\ks are just memeing redditors who spend all their time shitposting.
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>>162229654
Jack definitely did half damage
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>>162229545
>>162229563
does 2030 or imaginary around Okita work if Ishtar also has a star ce with the Nero star + meter + damage ce
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>>162229642
>>162229646
>>162229654
>need specific Servants to advance main story
What the fuck
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>>162229428
Interlude where it get turned on by accident when
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>>162229754
My NP2 Jack was still able to take a sizeable chunk of her HP with buffs. I recommend anyone who is having trouble hook up with a support Jack that is at least NP2.
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>>162229463
Waver or Okita.
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Would Ozy approve on such disgusting behavior like this from his fellow Pharaohs?
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>>162229654
False. Lancer Alter wasn't able to damage her either, and I'm certain she's considered as Lawful Evil. Unless you are saying only Neutral Evil servants can harm her.
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What CE should I use on Cleo for the Quet fight?
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>>162229949
the new one, drunk jeanne, or brave liz
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>>162229927
>Lawful
There's the reason. Lawful and Good alignment nulls any damage they dish out I'm assuming. Which effectively means Artoria is useless in this fight.
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>>162229828
Well killing a god shouldn't be easy, epecially this late in the game.
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>>162229927
Wasn't she listed as Lawful Good when she was first released? DW might have fucked up making her Lawful Evil later on.

If a second evil aligned Servant can't do shit then yeah, it's not right.
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>>162229925
Would Cleo invite her beloved Caesar into this?
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>>162229949
Whatever you want. Why are people acting like that fight is impossible or some shit. If you have Cleo or Jack you basically already won unless all your other servants are trash.
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>>162227123
Anyone have more RARE chibis?
Please anons
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>>162230112
Is he still fat?
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Carmilla, Shuten and support Jack will be ok for the Quetzal fight, right? r-right?
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>>162230256
I didn't think Cleo minded much
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Why do people hate Ishtar when she's actually quite a good servant? And when are DW supposed to be changing her Mana Burst (Gems) skill icon to a gem, instead of the clock? I thought they were doing that with the last update.
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Why the heck does Gorgon Medusa look so damn happy?
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>>162230139
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>>162230139
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So how do you change your servant sprite for your friends? I don't want people to use my Saber Archer with that stupid third sprite any more.
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>>162230139
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Reminder that Rintar is a fusion of personalities like Waver said and that that anon who claimed Ishtar was fully in control when he was just a stupid EOP is a fucking moron.

I'm so fucking happy you got blown the fuck out. You deserve it. Cunt.
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>>162230301
She passed out from shock when she saw what a fat piece of shit he was as a Saber, was clearly very upset about it, and has a My Room line where she complains about it.
Cleo doesn't like fatties.
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Anyone have a Gil Caster, Taiga, Enkidu and any of the new Medusa CHibis?

Here's a gif from long ago
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>>162229050
As his kingdom burned around him and humanity teetered on the edge of annihilation, Gilgamesh finally decided to get serious. His power was so intense that he was able to turn a hopeless battle against Tiamat into a victory, and that was when Merlin, King Hassan, Enkidu-Kingu, Mashu, Quetzelcoatl, Jaguarman, Ishtar and her sister all working together weren't able to bring it down.

Pretty neat huh?
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>>162230596
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>>162230565
What you use currently is what your friends will see pretty much.
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>>162230650
He jobbed to a bullet.
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>Jaguar Man is a masterless servant
>tell her she's pretty
>she immediately joins you
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>>162230139

>>162230596
there is no Rin personality in her

she's just Ishtar with human empathy from being in Rins body
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>>162230565
If you enable this you will see the support just like they set them.
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>>162230695
Ishtar herself literally says it's 70% her, 30% her host.
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>>162230684
He didn't actually die from that though at least not until well after the battle ended, he kept fighting and barking orders even with his heart pierced. And he did it to protect Guda, setting aside his pride and acting like a true hero.

Gilgamesh anti-jobbed this Order.
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>>162230684
Just like Goku-san.
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>>162230787
Rin ok with pursuing the Gudick confirmed

Shirou cucked the fuck out
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>>162230672
>>162230714
>two completely different responses

love this meme
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>>162230684
>Bullet
Wasn't it a projectile fired by Tiamat? That would be a lot more deadly than a bullet.
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>>162230596

I don't think you understand what is meant by the 70-30 split.

Ishtar's personality isn't actually being fused with Rin's, all it means is Rin is forcefully altering Ishtar's perspective. Ishtar is still very evidently in full control of Rin and their personalities are explicitly separate. It's exactly in line with what Waver said about Divine Spirit Pseudo-Servants, that the Divine Spirit determines the thought processes of the host.
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Quetzelcoatl falls for (you) because during the big fight with her, you land the finish by having Ishtar warp you 200 meters up into the air so you can do a ridiculous lucha libre move.

(You suggest the idea instead of Roman's more practical idea, but I don't think you intended for Ishtar to warp you that high up.)

You can be lame about it and be scared the entire way, or you can yell your heart out like a true suicidal moron.

If I read the next bit right, you don't die because Quetzelcoatl catches you. She asks you what the fuck you thought you were doing, and you say that you knew Quetzelcoatl would save you because she loves humanity.

Incidentally in the choice before the fight, the harder option is you saying you understand Quetzelcoatl's feelings.
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>>162230596
>complained that people couldn't read Waver's interlude correctly
>Order confirms it was exactly what people understood from Waver's interlude
It's like people who demand others read the VN when they themselves haven't read it and are contradicting information from the VN.
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>>162228461
It's not the deepest, fairies are just Gaia's sense of touch, they're lesser beings just like everything made by them.
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>>162230695
As expected of a scatfag. Dumb to the core. Ishtar says in this chapter her personality is about 2/3rd Ishtar, 1/3 Rin. That's why she has empathy for humans, not because of some trashbin science you seem to be proposing here. Now fuck off back to whatever hole you crawled out from.
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>>162230860
nevermind

I guess the second answer is still useful since now I can track and delete those who use garbage sprites for my favorite units
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>>162230892
This order is fucking great.
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>>162230829
Shirou is free to get with a real woman now and forget that cheating whore
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I did it /fgog/!

He is stronger than Solomon now, right?
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>>162230892
So she's canonically our LUCHA LIBRE wife?
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wow can't believe Okita is such a whore
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>>162230995
But Luvia is for Rin, in all timelines she doesn't fuck the Shirou.
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>>162230902
Retards here are all EoPs that believe in poor translations from the wiki or BL.

They literally started with UBW 2014
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>>162230995
>even more loose version of Rin
>real woman
yeah okay
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>>162230794
So Nasuverse canon is now Gilgamesh died to a bullet.

GILGAMEMERS ETERNALLY BTFO

This is proof that Lancelot can jsut take a gun and shoot him and because of how Nasuverse works, Gilgameme will die due to dying through a bullet in life. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>162230934
>>162230787

All that confirms is that it's not an actual fusion of personalities.

If it was a true fusion then it would be a 50-50 split.

Moreover, Ishtar talks like Ishtar, not like Rin. She never once slips into talking like Rin. All that Rin does is nerf her and alter her perspective due to seeing things through the body of a high school magus.
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>>162231006
>15 100
Isn't that nice to look at.
Gotta get that bond up though.
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>>162230892
I really want to tell her I understand her feelings but fuck she just hits too hard in that version of the fight.
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>>162231051
It wasn't literally a bullet, it was Tiamat. Calling it a bullet is just a cute turn of phrase.
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>>162230934
Liking Scat has nothing to do with what he was saying( regardless of them being wrong), make an actual point or don't try at all.
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>>162231051
See >>162230879
It's only a bullet in the sense that it was a fired projectile. It was still an attack by Tiamat and extremely deadly. And even when Gilgamesh took it straight on, he was able to fight at full strength, be the deciding factor in helping you slay Tiamat, and then give his goodbyes before disappearing at the end of the Order like all your helper servants always do.
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>>162231204
>>162231269

Don't feed Melvin you morons.
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>>162231146
Got my LB Lunchtime CE just right now, I'm ready for Babylonia.
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Why isn't there any fan art of Quetz yet?
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>>162231072
She doesn't talk like Rin because she's in more control. No one said it was 50/50. But retards like you were saying it was all Ishtar in full control and Ishtar was now a dindu, and Rin was just a host for Ishtar. Now you have canon evidence proving you wrong, so you come up with some trash like "oh, w-well she isn't really just affecting her personality, she's just changing her personality". As I said:

>scatfags
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How often do you have to use command spells/quartz to finish a mission /fgog/? Are you finding Babylonia very difficult?
Me, it's not super hard but some of my servants are underleveled so some missions I had to rely on supports and full party res to finish the missions. I think I've only had to do that three times so far, though, and I'm on mission 20.
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>>162231269
Wait, didn't he die from it, THEN summon himself in his Archer form to beat the shit out of Tiamat?
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>>162231341
Are you retarded?
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>>162231332
Most Nips are probably getting to her now since they don't skip the story.
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>>162230886
>>162231072
I honestly can't tell if this is bait, you are too stupid to understand what a blending of personalities means, or are so determined to deny being wrong that you are now engaging in mental gymnastics to somehow justify that Rin's personality changing aspects of Ishtar's personality somehow does not mean that their personalities have blended somewhat.
Either way, get fucked.
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>>162231332
Japs may be busy doing lolis instead, gotta go around with edited chibis for the time being
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>>162231221
I have made my point, you dumb spic. I also commented on a general trend found on /fgog/, which is scatfags are typically dumb. Are your feelings hurt, taco?
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>>162229828
>specific Servants
There are LOTS of Neutral and Evil Servants in the game. Good Servants are more common overall, but LITERALLY EVERY BRONZE ASSASSIN is either Evil or Neutral.

So you can handle it.
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Which option gives you the harder fight for Quetz? I want a real hard fight for this one. And do we have a full list of what servant can hurt her yet?
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>>162231341

>But retards like you were saying it was all Ishtar in full control and Ishtar was now a dindu

Control of a body isn't a democracy unless it's an even split. Otherwise, it's just like owning a majority of shares in a corporation. If you have the majority of control, you are dominant and therefore have full control. That's why Ishtar talks like Ishtar, not like Rin. If you'd bothered to read you'd know Ishtar also says the reason she's behaving nicer than she normally would is because she's experiencing the world through a human's eyes, not because Rin is actively influencing her personality. Their personalities remain divided and all Rin is able to do is reduce Ishtar's power.

So no, it's not a fusion of personalities, and yes, Ishtar is in full control, and only an idiot would think otherwise.
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So how are 3* or less fags managing with Babylonia? Any vid of them beating the hard stages?
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>>162231410
>scatfag
>asking if someone is retarded
Like Pottery.
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>>162231395
If that were the case it wouldn't explain his reappearance as Caster Gilgamesh after the battle, and there'd be no mention of the Archer Gilgamesh disappearing, like with Merlin and Hassan.
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>>162231539
And no one said it was a democracy. What part of this do you not get? Rin has a substantial share in her personality, not a 50/50 one. Are you really so assblasted that you were proven wrong that you have gone full autismo and just straight up broken? Take your meds.
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>>162231427

>Ishtar states that the reason she's more sympathetic towards humanity is because she's observing humanity in a human body
>this means she's being fused with Rin's personality who is actively hindering her abilities, demonstrating individual thought contrary to Ishtar's, again proof that there is no blending of personalities occurring
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>>162231660
There was nothing to prove wrong in the first place.
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>>162231660

You don't get that Ishtar doesn't say Rin has any effect on her personality. She straight up says that it's because she's in Rin's body, briefly existing as a mortal being, not a Divine Spirit, not because of Rin's personality, that she's nicer than usual. You're trying to make statements that directly contradict Ishtar's own words.
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>>162231609
He talks about Ishtar sister at some point and they are in the underworld for the final battle he might of been a ghost
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>>162231384
Nearly lost my whole front line a few times due to bad servant picks but otherwise, no real issues.
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Oh yeah, I think you get Jaguar Man on your side because (you) follow Merlin's advice and compliment her beauty.

She instantly changes sides, much to her subordinate were jaguars' chagrin.
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>a Grand Caster candidate summons another Grand Caster candidate

What the fuck is even going on and why didn't Gil just summon some other Grand who's better at fighting?
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>>162231913
Merlin is truly the world's greatest conman.
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>>162231913
I'm beginning to think the goddess are very desperate
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So Camelot is still the best Order right?
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>>162232047
Babylon better
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>>162229537
He's always had a heightened perception for magic, which is why he's comfortable just using armor that gives him a resistance of rank E. I'm pretty sure there's an excerpt in the F/Z novels where Gilgamesh talks about how the grail war is waged only by shitty magi who barely understand the simplest of concepts from his time.

I have doubts about qualifying for Grand Caster, though. I'm pretty sure it takes an innate ability, not just a bunch of tools and magical artifacts from the GoB.
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>>162231963
He got Merlin, a man with all of the info they would ever need and Excalibur, and King Hassan, who can kill whoever he wants if he isn't being lazy. I think you're fine with whatever Grand you pull.
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>>162230650
That's Gilgamesh coming back as a Servant because just died a few minutes earlier.
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>>162231880
>He talks about Ishtar sister at some point
Did you forget earlier in the Order? He literally walked down to the underworld and you pursued him there, where you meet Ishtar's sister and he interacts with her.
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>>162232069
Will we ever be able to summon this semen demon?
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>>162232069
Who is the artist of this cutie?
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>>162231913
I'm a bit confused here, so what is exactly possessing Taiga for her to be a pseudo? Is really the jaguar aspect of Tezcatlipoca?
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>>162232128
>I'm pretty sure it takes an innate ability
You need to be able to see into the past,future or preset
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>>162232012
Both Ishtar and Jaguar Man ultimately join you because of the personal weaknesses of their hosts.

Quetzelcoatl just likes your spirit.
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>>162232047
America is better. It gave several characters development and played well with already established lore such as grails being able to create people's dream version of someone like Gilles did back in France. It came with plenty of great fights too. It also fucked over Scat, Nero, and Liz which is a nice bonus.
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>>162231963
>Merlin
>Giving even the tiniest shit about logic or reason

This is a man who literally goes backwards in time and gets younger as everyone else gets older. This is the guy who gave King Arthur a dick so he could sire a bastard child with a dirty swamp fairy. You shouldn't be even mildly surprised that he'd pop up there.
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>>162232162
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>>162232047
By far

Babylon is just the absolute worst girl from Stay Night getting wanked, monster girls, vore, and literal homosexual innuendo from Gil and Enkidu. Worst order so far.

People shit on Septem for all of the Nero wank, but have no problem with Babylon being a circus for Rin-wanking. And Rin is miles worse than Nero ever had time to be.
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>>162232197
She is one of Tezcatlipoca's Naguals.
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>>162232142
No I mean near the end of the order in relation to him disappearing at the end of the order
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>>162232197
The Hero Jaguarman
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>>162232291
That's because it's not really Rin doing anything under her own power. Everything comes from Ishtar. Nero wank is bullshit because Nero is garbage both as a warrior and as a character.
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>>162232291
SAKURAFAG DETECTED
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>>162232291
You forgot to mention that all of the good Servants either aren't playable yet or never will be playable.
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>>162232291
>and literal homosexual innuendo from Gil and Enkidu
We've known Gil was a bottom bitch since the original release of FSN in the early 2000s. He straight-up says he doesn't care for women and that they're only good for breeding.
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>>162232314
I doubt he was a ghost. Most likely just summoned himself as a servant as he was dying or something.

Doesn't really mitigate his actions, if anything it makes it kind of better, and still leaves Melvin up a creek.
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So Guda completely won over a goddess by performing a 200 meter piledriver.
Is this the new High Jump? How can other protagonists even compete with that level of stupidity and determination?
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>>162232291
Found the Sakurafag or melvin one of those two
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>>162232291
All Babylon had to do was release Semiramis and instead they went with clay queer, snek, luchadike, and Shitar

DW proves once again that they hate money
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>>162232291
>and literal homosexual innuendo from Gil and Enkidu
>Complaining about things you didn't play
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>>162232416
Summoning himself is sorta Solomon-level bullshit though, it can't be that.
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>>162232442
The F/GO MC is honestly the most amusing protagonist I've seen out of the Fate universe so far.

They just don't give a single shit.
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>>162232442
>Harem of goddesses
>Can do wrestling moves from in mid-air
>Protects the smiles of lolis
Guda is now officially the best protagonist. Shirou and Hakuno can fuck off
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>>162232371
Nero is far more adorable, interesting, and attractive than some plain bodied old and busted tsundere. It's 2016. Why the fuck are beta mancucks still begging for tsunderes?
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>>162232565
He summoned himself before he died. That's Prelati bullshit.
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>>162232512
Semiramis would've been here if Amakusa wasn't a fuckup who died on his way to get a catalyst in the desert. Blame him, not DW.
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>>162232565
He could only do it because they were inside the underworld. He dies again a few minutes after returning to the surface.
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>no Semiramis
>Medusa Lily is an awful 3* Lancer
>Medusa Gorgon is only a 4*
>Enkidu is just terrible
>Caster Gil is mediocre
>Taiga is actually decent but nothing special
>Merlin is downright incredible but will never be summonable

Has this Order managed to successfully buttblast everyone in the fandom?
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>>162232442
>This is the new high jump

Oh god

If every fucking chapter from now on has a god/goddess go "I watched you do that piledriver and it really moved me" I'll never recover
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Did anyone really expect Semiramis to be in Babylon?
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>>162232612

>(You) are the best protagonist
huh.
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>>162232627
>mfw this becomes canon and Semi goes for the Guda dick after scolding Amakusa for failing her
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Can I complete the story on a starter account before the daily apple and half cost ends if I start today?
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>>162232614
Nero is trash and so is Rin. The difference is that it's not Rin being wanked. It may be Rin's face, but it's all Ishtar's power. You should probably off yourself for thinking Nero is better than anyone though. Her character is bland, nothing close to he real life counterpart, and she shares a face with several other characters, so she doesn't have much unique going on with her looks either.
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>>162232627
Not Amakusa's fault a South American jungle was where he thought there'd be a desert and he got ambushed and eaten by Jaguarman, who's canonically strong enough that (You), who have been defeating Grail-boosted monsters and the mightiest of Camelot knights, can only beat her via flattery.
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>>162232291
Are you implying there's something wrong with monsters girls or vore?
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>>162232694
Semifags also it did make sense for her to appear not like that means anything in a game where Sherlock appears in Camelot
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https://twitter.com/maple_LuwenWS/status/807051771440865280
Only 7 months to go.
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Why are you guys complaining about Rin when this Order shits on her all the time?
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>>162232779

>Jaguarman
>with awful stats and only a B rank NP
>this strong

What the fuck is going on with this Order
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>>162232663
>"I watched you do that piledriver and it really moved me"
I'm fucking dying. It's too absurd.
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How the fuck am I supposed to beat this mission where Ushiwaka clones keep spawning?
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I think the 200 Meter Piledriver is up there with Air Arash for goofiest scene in the entire game.
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>>162232663
This would be perfect.
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>>162232661
No.
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>>162232779
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>>162232779
>Jaguarman
>eats Amakusa

Fuck this chapter is nothing BUT vore
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>>162232832
Butthurt Sakurafags and semifag
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>>162232694
I figured it was possible but I'm not really a Semifag so I'm not too upset about it being wrong.

Really, I'm only interested in Semi if she ends up being a QQAAB Caster.
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>>162232661
>never be summonable
This is one of the few mobage that doesn't have UR or 6*s. Give it time, DW will be back for your money.
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>>162232839
God's and their servants aren't a joke, not this far back in time at least.
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>>162232839
She's got a god in her or something. Stats don't usually mean much to a god, and B rank NPs can be very effective.
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>>162232885

I hope you enjoy your Qt when she gets her gacha anon, and I hope she's everything you were hoping for

But fuck this order holy shit
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>>162230139
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>>162232832
>implying they can read any of it
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>>162232750
Nope.
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>>162232848
I want more of this. The goofy shit is always fun, especially when it shows up in the main Orders.
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>>162232991
>fuck this order
Why? It honestly isn't much more difficult than Camelot.
Only bad thing is the lack of quartz.
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If there was ever an event based in Hungary, who would you want to pop up as a Servant?
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>>162232885
>that sideboob

Also thank god I only burned 60 quartz on this gacha. I managed to get the new 5* CE and caster gil/medusa lancer. They may be mediocre as fuck but it's not like I'm a whale with 12+ 5*s to work with.
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>>162232694
It honestly made sense. She was Queen of Assyria and created the Hanging Gardens of Babylon canonically in the Nasuverse. But there have been plenty of Servants who didn't appear in the orders that made the most sense for them
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>>162232885
Damn you Nasu. Now no mexican interpretation can be as nice. How can chairos even compete?
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>>162232885
She takes really good care of her teeth.
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Man, ever since Ishtar joined up you've been spending every night chatting with her. There's even a scene that starts off with nobody there, but (you) know the drill by now and just say that you know Ishtar's there. And she is indeed nearby.

I'm honestly surprised Mashu hasn't gotten annoyed yet.
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>>162232921
>Everyone who says anything I perceive as negative about my girl must be the enemy group, I'll drag them into it and shitpost blame them

You're kind of part of the problem here, I hope you know.. You played into exactly what he wanted, and you'll keep doing it.
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Is a servant better off having a balanced card hand (AABBQ and other variants) or focusing on one card specifically (AAABQ/ABBBQ/ABQQQ)?
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Why did it have to be this way.
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>>162232885
Does she fucking eat anyone? Apparently vore is the fetish of choice for this order.
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>Jaguarman utterly trashes Guda's highly experienced and powerful party solo
>would not even be able to so much as scratch Godhand

I can't handle this shit, what the fuck is happening to all the powerlevels
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>>162233170
Also Ishtar (or rather Ereshkigal? I'm still not sure what's up with that) is actually pretty annoyed you keep getting more goddesses on your side.
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>>162233087
Hopefully someone you would like to appear.

>>162233124
Not really, Her main NP requires to much prep time and the people of that area would put a stop to it easily.
Not to mention it would take away focus from the introduction of the beasts which has been something Nasu has wanted to tackle for a while now.
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>>162233207
She could if she wanted to with those shark teeth
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>>162233228
Skill and speed work well but are useless vs god hand?
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>>162233124
Actually she didn't. She's specifically noted as not having created them, and that people just believe she did, which is why she can use them.
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>>162233135
One thing about her that may be lost on people who can't into runes, her speech has katakana mixed into it here and there for certain words, which is used as an indication that she's got a slight accent.
She's a real cutie.
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>>162233087
Janos Hunyadi. Technically geographically inaccurate but close enough
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>>162233190
Depends of their skills and class.
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>3day Babylon chapter is on, and still farming for MP to LB my lunch CE
Why is getting the MP CEs such a pain in the ass ?
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>>162233228
H-HAYAI plus she's using the jungle's topography to her advantage.
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>>162233087
Given F/GO's track record, I'd say Ben Franklin
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>>162232919
I don't think he meant that literally, anon.

R-right?
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>>162231006
I'm saddened by your choice of favorite
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>>162218559
>The reason why such change occurred is not mentioned, but it has been hinted to be somewhat connected with the British Isles
The eternal anglo strikes again.
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>>162233412
I have no idea what you're talking about, anon.
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>>162233420

>H-HAYAI
>Agi B

My mind is full of fuck
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>>162233190
Depends on the class and skills. Generally, you want them to have at least 2 cards that share the same type as their NP. I usually build my teams as a mix of quality deck servants (AABBQ and other variants) and focused deck servants.

If you run some crit team variant, you either want at least one servant with QQQBA or a servant with skills that make stars. If you run NP spam, at least one AAABQ (or a high average number of arts across your team like 2 arts cards per servant deck). BBBAQ servants can serve as good damage dealers, but if they're zerkers, you generally want to put them on the back because they don't usually synergize well with anything besides other beaters.

So for me, a good buster/crit team would be one that has a BBQQA servant, a QQQBA servant, and then either another quality deck or quick based deck.
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>>162233558
We already know from garden of Avalon she killed that dragon with her spear
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>You spend all night talking with Ishtar about what's happened in previous orders.
>She specifically laughs at Ozymandias' Pyramid From The Sky trick, and says he's as dumbass a king as Gilgamesh.
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>>162233520
On top of having a decent fivehead she has some nice thighs.
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Reminder that if Gilgameme had set aside his petty grudges and summoned UNRIVALED, Beast II would have been dead in a minute, tops.
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Is there a new best place to farm bond in Babylon?
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>>162233649
I refuse to believe you faggots can read this shit seeing as how it's taken so long for this kind of stuff to appear, where are you finding this shit? Beast lair? Reddit? Facebook?
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>>162233649
Joke's on her, caster Gil is a good king.
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>>162230892
I'm gonna be ready disappointed if we don't get Guda and Quetzal wrestling partner tag team are


or Quetzal fucking Gudao in some sort of wrestling hold
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What's this about Cleopatra having bond lines about being disgusted by Caesar being fat?

Does this mean that the living Caesar wasn't fat, and he was made this way by the summoning into the Saber class alone?

What the hell Nasu.
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>>162233720
Some of us can read at least a little nip.
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So I heard that Medusa Lily was bad, but how bad is she? Is she "usable but inferior" or "Enkidu-tier"
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Who the D here?
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>>162233412
If you refill your AP 10 ten times per day (if you have got like 120 AP) doing 30 AP hands you may be able to get 320 mana prisms per day if you just get 8 cards worth burning in each run.

Or something. I kind of gave up on the math. But if I really pull my shit together I may be able to get all cards before the month ends, and so you can!
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>>162233773
a bit late to the party, aren't we?
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>>162233773

Servants that are supposed to be fairly powerful being summoned into weaker classes and/or irregular in some way is a bit of a running gag in Grand Order.

I think he does it so that the "true" versions of characters can be used in later works, or added to bait gachas and events, with plenty of surprise and interest factor to them.
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>>162233831
I was out for all of October and November and this was the first I heard of it. I'm digging through the pastebins for the translated lines.
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Gil went harder in this order like we've never seen.

-Confirmed Grand Servant potential with super clairvoyance
-Summons fucking Merlin and multiple other servants with just his own reserves
-Takes a hit from Tiamat and outlasts it in a way that would make any Cufag proud
-Comes back as an Archer and descisively murks Tiamat when the player already had a team of grand potential allies

>jobbing

top meme. Gil's hype was solidified in this order as Grand-tier.
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>>162233720
Well I'm playing a Japanese mobage posting on an english anonymous image board while also knowing 2 other languages.
So reading should be a thing?
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>F/GO keeps crashing on phone

abunai
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>>162233891
>Lancelot won't even be grand berserker or grand saber

Melvin on suicide watch this chapter
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>>162233891

It makes no difference. Gil still lost to Lancelot in the aerial dogfight. The more Gil gets wanked, the more Lancelot is wanked by proxy.
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>>162233720
Not him but I can read moon a little, it takes me a long time to do it and I can't read many kanji without going back and forth to a dictionary.
Sometimes I'll post a detail that's simple enough that I know I won't get it wrong but generally I keep my mouth shut and let people with a less tenuous grasp on the language get around to summarizing things.
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>>162218559
Fug, I missed this thread while at work. Is there a link for these translations/summaries?
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>>162233503
She likes eating people. Amakusa went MIA on her turf.
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>lvl 80 Babylon Berserk quest gives equivalent BP that camelot knight quest gave
>Can clear it even faster due to berserkers

Fucking glorious
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Why isn't Jaguarman a Saber with shinai?
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>>162233876
So, Julius Caesar wasn't a fat-ass in the Fateverse, he just got summoned that was as a Saber. But if summoning him as a Saber fucks him up this much, what's his true class supposed to be?
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Writing-wise, if I were to compare Babylon to Camelot it'd be like comparing HA to UBW. There isn't as many "holy shit!" moments like the initial clash with Gawain or the Village Ablaze chapter, but instead there's a lot of character moments with dramatic scenes interspersed throughout that make it clear that something bad is going on.

If I were to point at the big difference, it would be the presence of Gilgamesh. In Camelot you were part of a rag-tag team of rebels that doesn't manage to get anyone big on your side until the very end, but in Babylon you join up with Caster Gilgamesh right away. The situation doesn't feel as tense because of it.

Ishtar and Quetzelcoatl are also much less intimidating than Gawain and Tristan, though that's on purpose since they join up with you.

I'm kinda sad that Leonidas, Ushiwakamaru, and Benkei didn't get much, but Leonidas still got a much much MUCH better showing than the shitshow in Septem.

I'm at chapter 13 right now, so as I understand shit is about to get real. I can only hope it's as cool as HA's finale.
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Can we all agree that Quetzalcoatl is the best thing to come out of this order by a wide margin
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>>162234239
He say's it's Rider, I think.
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>>162234239

Rider, according to Julius "Chunky McMantits" Caesar
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>>162234198
She'd be to strong so they had to nerf her
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>>162233830
10 times 30AP per day gives 80 MP, not 320
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>>162230650
>all this headcanon
King Hassan only killed the mobs, Tiamat was your problem to deal with.
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>>162234272
>I can only hope it's as cool as HA's finale.
Certain portions will seem very familiar.
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>>162234272
On the other hand I do find that Babylon has a better sense of geography compared to the other orders. Not to say it's realistic, but each area you visit feels distinct in the writing.
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>>162234314
10 times refilling AP with only 120 max stamina. Not ten times running the 30AP.
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>mud Ushi is hard they said
>unlimited NP they said
>take AoE servants they said

Even when the Ushi's fired their NP it was piss weak damage.

>inb4 waver help gg

I'm just raising his bond.
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>>162234314
I'm going with the assumption that you empty your AP bar of an hypothetical 120 AP max, making 4 30 AP quests before you need to use apples to refill. That would be 32 MP if you are unlucky enough to get 1 2*EXP in each run, which happens to me a lot. Best case scenario you have 36 MP worth burning. With that in mind, do 10 whole refills, it gives you 320-360 MP. Also lots of despair over wasted apples.
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>>162234279
>>162234286
I need him right now. I'll whale more for him than King Hassan and Merlin combined.
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Am I supposed to kill 2mil HP Tiamat? I feel like I goofed by bringing a full attrition party.
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>>162234446
>>162234492
You refill 1AP per 5min, meaning you get 30 AP each 2h30min : So you get 10 times 30 AP in a day, not 120.
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>>162234025
>The more Gil gets wanked, the more Lancelot is wanked by proxy.
That's backwards. The more Gil gets wanked, the more pathetic Lancelot looks because of how little effort Gilgamesh was putting in to deal with him.

Even with a Gilgamesh at 10, 15% of his power tops, Lancelot was too weak to seal the deal. What a maroon.
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>>162234492
Also I'm kind of tired after being farming hands all day, so I'm sorry if my explanations aren't really good

>>162234613
Anon I think you are more tired than I am
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/fgog/ help me decide, I wanna roll for loli medusa because she's cute and chuuni and that hits me in all the right spots. But I still haven't leveled the Sad Vlad I got during Halloween, as well as a bunch of servants like Ilya, Nero Bride and Jack because I was farming prisms instead of exp during nothingvember. I also want King Hassan but I know I probably won't roll him. Should I bother throwing my 7 tickets in there? Is she at least good?
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>>162234463
>clears _____ with waver and berserker cu
Well no shit it's easy. Try it without the special snowflake servants and come back.
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>>162234625
>3 weapons
Look at that. That's not even a Buster attack from Gilgamesh. That's not even an Arts attack, it's fucking half of one. Lancelot is just fodder for Gil to build up NP gauge for stronger opponents.
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>>162234661
>Anon I think you are more tired than I am
I think we aren't talking about the same thing. I was referring to natural refill, and I guess you talk about apple refill ?
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>>162234717
They were three A++ weapons, Gil doesn't throw those out lightly.
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>>162234239
He literally says that Julius Caesar is a commander and Saber is a class only fit for footsoldiers, which is why his container is wrong.
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These final few missions of chapter 21 are lit.
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>these last two boss fights

Just bring back the pillars. Compared to Amon-Ra this shit was so underwhelming.

>free health every turn

?
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>>162234838
Yeah I meant it with the use of apples, that's why I mentioned the apple despair. I at least have more than 160 golden apples so I think I can survive the farming. If I go with natural refill I doubt I can manage.
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>>162234025
Literally this. No matter how good Gilgamesh does, the fact that Lancelot was stated to be able to shit on him in the materials still stands. Also the fact that enraged Gilgamesh in Accel Zero was beaten like a bitch by Lancelot. Lancelot power just increases the better his jobbers do.
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>>162234920
>Saber is a class only fit for footsoldiers
Can a servant's perception of their own class weaken their abilities?
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Look, can we all just agree that Lancelot is actually a pretty bad-ass knight, and probably even the second-strongest or third-strongest member of the Saber class after Arturia and maybe some obscure Eastern hero...

But that he's completely and hopeless out-matched by Gilgamesh, King of Heroes, oldest Heroic Spirit, owner of every Noble Phantasm and treasure of the earth, sole possessor of the original weapon Ea from before the concept of a weapon even existed?
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>>162235029
>enraged Gilgamesh
You mean drunk.
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Hot
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Post Siegfried.
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>game crashes non-stop
>can't get through a single chapter without the phone crashing to menu or blacking out entirely

Why the fuck can't we use emulators, again?
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>>162235037
It may be the case.

Nero is supposed to be able to be summoned as a Rider -and that would be the more correct class iirc- but she believes is not a worthy enough class and that's why she shoehorned herself on Saber class. I wonder if her opinion of the class would actually reverse it and make her bad on it.
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>>162234717
Gilgamesh died to Lancelot using a pole in Accel Zero.
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>>162235037
Very possible. If the general perception of a servant can affect them, then why not have their perception of their class affect them?
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>>162235091
>Look, can we all just agree that Lancelot
No
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>>162235154

he died to being ganked while drunk by literally everyone being commanded by the greatest tactician of China. Very Lancelot xd
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>>162218146
>Liz and Anderson support since day 1 of starting the game
>Nero Bride and Archeria still rake in all the FP
Is LIZ that bad?
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>>162234952
What's the difference? Pillars I just bring out my Anne and Mary with Kintoki for turn 3 win.
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>>162235091
>Look, can we all just agree that Lancelot is actually a pretty bad-ass knight
Yes.

>even the second-strongest or third-strongest member of the Saber class
Highly suspect. Almost no chance of him being quite THAT high, but he is one of the best Sabers, yes.

>But that he's completely and hopeless out-matched by Gilgamesh, King of Heroes, oldest Heroic Spirit, owner of every Noble Phantasm and treasure of the earth, sole possessor of the original weapon Ea from before the concept of a weapon even existed?
No one but a retard long since died, and an autistic person carrying on his legacy, have ever said otherwise.
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>>162234952
It makes sense from a thematic point, it's nearing the end,the grands are all appearing, things are hitting the fan and the stakes are the highest they have been with a beast level threat.
all the other orders pale in comparison, so yeah enjoy Merlin buffing you.
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>>162235095
Enraged, learn nip. He got super pissed the moment he saw Lancelot and went full REEEEEEEE, then died a few minutes later while Lancelot still had left in the tank to fight 4 Servants and only end up exhausted from the fight.
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>>162235230
>Is LIZ that bad?

I'm really sorry anon
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>You make it back to the capital after recruiting Quetzelcoatl.
>Ana feels something is off.
>A soldier informs you that Gilgamesh is fucking dead.

uhhhhh

It's also funny because Merlin freaks out since he doesn't understand how Gil could've died when he can do shit like see the future. It probably wasn't the intent, but it read like a powerlevel shitpost.
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>>162235220
If ganging up on him with no less than three (THREE) other Servants counts as a win for Lancelot, then Gilgamesh 100% defeated Lancelot in Zero since he only had two Servants "helping" him.
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>>162234787
I guess Quetz would have fucked Guda on the spot if Guda performed Mistico's finisher move on her.
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I don't remember the Lancelot meme being funny.

>"but you don't have argument so you say it's a meme"

Yawn
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>>162235153
Well Imperial pricilege is desillusion power. If Nero believe something it can become true. At least on herself.
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Any maxed out Enkidu fags got room on their list?
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>>162235464
This.
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>>162235220
>he died to being ganked
You just praised Gilgamesh being able to barely land a hit on Lancelot who was ganked by Saber and Diarmuid. Just get fucked, your jobber died like a bitch and the novel states he can't win the war unless the other Servants deal with Lancelot first.

>while drunk
Angry actually, which means he was not fucking around.

>literally everyone
EOP Gilfag strikes again. Iskander and Saber literally just watched Gilgamesh get his shit pushed in from a distance, the guy lost to Pre Ascension Mashu, Diarkek and Lancelot using A POLE.
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>new 5* CE gives 50% gauge and overcharges NP by two ranks
Who is this good on? Most overcharged NPs just reduce defense by 5% more or inflict 500 more poison damage
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>Roll for Caster Gil and Taiga
>Get FOUR loli Medusa instead
I'm tempted to burn them all.
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>>162235231
That at least you had to do something to beat him. Here you can just select 3 random units on your list, pick Gilgamesh who is fucking worthless in the fight and win anyway.
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>>162235558
Things like Cu Alter, Arash or Cleo.
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>>162235558
Anyone with attack up, buster up, etc. appended to their NP. Berserker Cu, Ilya, and Cleopatra all come to mind.
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>>162235542
>the guy lost to Pre Ascension Mashu,
The same one that defeated Berserker Lancelot so soundly he isn't even remembered as a villain in the order, just a one-off monster of the week?
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>>162235464
250,834,883

He's on the Lancer slot. Need Lancer cookies for his skills tho.
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>But that he's completely and hopeless out-matched by Gilgamesh
Nope and everyone and their mothers disagree with you. Even Julian who has seen the best Gilgamesh has to offer.

Gilgamesh can be as strong as you want but the fact that he can't beat Lancelot stands.
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Only up to chapter 15 right now

Holy shit Quez is so fucking cute. Thanks to her and Jaguarman I must have a full Onee-san party
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>>162235558
Honestly I'd throw one on Mashu. She's already getting better as a servant with the new level 80 cap, with this CE and her taunt she can get an NP3 or 4 out in a single turn, giving everyone an Atk buff and 3 turns of taking massively reduced damage.
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>>162235304
Don't worry, Gilgamesh is Grand tier
>>162235558
Gilgamesh
Cu Alter
Siegfried
Arash
Ishtar
Robin
Karna
Etc.
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>>162235430
It never was. It's just falseflagging based on an autist whose taste was based on powerlevels that got really out of hand.

It's like if shitposters decided to imitate the braindamaged Nerofag and started making posts even worse than the original.
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>>162235649
Lancelot literally only used a pole and was going against other Servants including Sumanai, and even then he had more lines and lasted more than Gilgamesh in Accel Zero.
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>>162235664
>Not grailed

Breh
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>>162235592
That's not really the point of the scene though, nasu clearly shows it through the writing.
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>>162235220
>Zhuge Liang
>greatest tactician of China
Stop posting, Luo Guanzhong.
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>>162235769
Still need to do Babylon for that
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>>162235304
I skipped through it because I don't read moon, so now I'm confused as fuck. Don't we pair up with Gil when we do fights alongside the Grands?
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>>162235558
Andersen
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>>162233773
What? The only line she has referring to him suggests that she's starting to find fat Caesar to be attractive.

>「あれはカエサル様……? カエサル様、よね? もう~、何も信じられない! んん……でもでも、どんなにふくよかでも素敵に見えるとか何なのよアレぇ!? ああんあり得ないぃぃ!!」

>んん……でもでも、どんなにふくよかでも素敵に見えるとか何なのよアレぇ!? ああんあり得ないぃぃ!!
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Holy fuck the mission with the 10 monster things with 200k health took forever
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I don't read moon, am I supposed to pick the top or the bottom choice before one of the boss fights?
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what's up with the giant boar that you fight after beating Ishtar and giving her gems?

a jilted lover of hers?
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>>162235824
Alright then, I'll take your word for it.
7.5
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>>162235091
>owner of every Noble Phantasm and treasure of the earth
Literally missing Arondight, Avalon, Vasavi, Excalibur, Rhon, Kavacha and a whole bunch of other shit.
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>>162235890
>of the earth
Of course he's not going to have divine constructs, you dumb fuck.
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>>162235873
Now you're choice have a real effect on the game.
Most of the time, pick the bottom option for easier fight.
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>>162235328
The only reason it was brought up is because you posted >>162234717 and >>162234625 first

So Lancelot with help can kill Gilgamwsh, Gilgamesh with help can only make Lancelot retreat.
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>>162235768
Reminder:

>Waver targeted Gilgamesh because he was identified as the most dangerous of all the servants.
>He didn't feel the need to do the same with Lancelot because of how simple he would be to deal with.
>Even when Lancelot turned against you, and used an honorless sneak attack, he was little more than a stepping stone before getting to the ACTUAL threat

Lancelot was such a joke that one of the greatest tacticians in history decided he didn't even need a plan to deal with him.
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>>162235878
Ishtar released a massive boar against Gil for denying her love, it was a gift from her daddy to shut her up.
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>Merlin is a tricky little fucker, and he managed to reason that if he hadn't been born and his body wasn't in that age, then technically he was dead, and technically that meant he could be summoned. He found a loophole, essentially, along with having as of yet unexplained "ties" to that particular singularity.

Weren't Servants able to be summoned even when they were alive? The original VN said this, EMIYA being the example. Unless Nasu retconned that shit.
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>>162236091
Merlin niggers himself into a Grand Caster container, which gives him vastly more power compared to what he just does as Fou.
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>>162236009
Lancelot at his full power can kill Gilgamesh. You need to remember that KoH, as stated in the materials themselves, was the only thing that allowed him to fight against Gilgamesh. That "measly pole" you're referring to was actually his strongest weapon in that scenario.

And when Gilgamesh devoted actual attention, Lancelot's greatest weapons like the Vulcan were instantly annihilated, and he was blown out of the air so viciously he never even got a chance to come back for round three, and had to go pick on non-servants.
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>>162236091
No, the point is that Merlin couldn't be summoned because he technically never died.
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>>162236091
Fairly certain the fact Merlin can't be summoned at any point further in time is because he's trapped in Avalon.
I forget to be honest.
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So, to recap...

Enuma Elish destroys worlds

Excalibur is equal to Enuma Elish

Solomon's Ars Almadel Salomonis is billions of times more powerful than Excalibur and Solomon himself transcends spacetime and has the power to destroy history itself

Solomon is one of seven grand servants, and being the grand caster is probably the weakest or second weakest

Together, the seven grand servants are strong enough to stand up to... Arcueid's sister's pet dog

What gives?
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>>162236091
>Weren't Servants able to be summoned even when they were alive? The original VN said this, EMIYA being the example. Unless Nasu retconned that shit.
No retcons. It's a specific problem for Merlin because he's trapped in a tower for all eternity. He can't become a Heroic Spirit because he never died, he can't die. The loophole he found was by summoning into a time where he could be defined as "dead"
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So what do you guys think the chances are of DW nerfing Merlin's skills when they release him into the gacha.
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>>162236091
Yes but they still need to be dead. Merlin is still alive so he can't be summoned.
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>>162236038
>He didn't feel the need to do the same with Lancelot
He was panicking because Diarmuid was talking shit instead of helping to bring down Lancelot. He had the only one who could stop Lancelot from the beginning. Meanwhile he says YOU needed Lancelot to beat Gilgamesh, not the other way around.

Learn nip.
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>>162236091
EMIYA is Shirou from the future where Shirou is dead. Merlin is trapped in the stone prison forever in Avalon and not dead at all. That's why he used a bullshit loophole to get around that and be summoned despite not actually dying.
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>>162235890

huh no, just Vasavi Shakti, and that's because its a combo item
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>>162236238
I don't think Solomon is that weak among the grand. Just that he is more large scaled, like mass destruction.
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>Want to finish the Order but can't because work is taking up time

I hate it, and I want to discuss it with you guys.
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Okay, so if I got this straight:

When Ishtar was summoned, the original plan was to only summon her. But in what Merlin thought was strange at the time, when the summoning finally succeeded the shrine maiden in charge died. This is because somehow, Ereshikigal was summoned at the same time as Ishtar. Since they were both summoned into Rin, Rin's good half and bad half split and became two separate Servants.

You can choose if you think Ereshikigal is the good side or the bad side. If you say the former, Ishtar gets super huffy.

Anyway the conversation that brought this on was Quetz pointing out that Ishtar is actually not a part of the Three Goddesses. Ereshikigal is, which both surprises Ishtar because she didn't know that and annoys her since she and Ereshkigal don't get along.

Ereshkigal is who (you) spend most of your time bonding with by the way.
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>>162236238

no, the 7 counter guardians thing has nothing to do with Grands, that's just people connecting dots where there aren't any
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>>162236238
Tsukihime powerlevels get real fuckin' stupid.

There's a fucking alien sleeping in south america that literally has the ability to murder all people on earth with a thought.
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>>162236391
Sleep tight sabbers, work hard.
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>>162236238
It doesn't matter if they're Grand or not, no Servants or combination of Servants can possibly harm Primate Murder
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>>162236170
>And when Gilgamesh devoted actual attention
He ended up being damaged for the first time in his life against a non main character.
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>>162236449
Because they're human right?

What about Nursery Rhyme?

Or Mephistopheles?

Or Altera?
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Doesn't look like Tiamat is ever going to be playable, her bio flat out says she has no personality or actual anything about her aside from robotic urges

Tiamat, at last returning to this world with the collapse of the foundations of human order and the power of the grail, still laid in deep slumber.

Putting aside the matter of whether her slumber was caused by Merlin’s magic, Chaldea’s attack had awoken her, whereupon she followed her instincts and began a course of action to exterminate humanity.

While she does hold a grudge and bears hatred and sadness for being abandoned after her purpose has been fulfilled, she is doing this to indulge in the “joy” of once again becoming the mother of everything.

With these properties of her true nature, her class had been decided.

The goddess of Genesis is but a false name.

She is a great disaster, left behind by humanity, most rejected by human history

Her name is Beast II.

One of the seven evils of humanity, the beast with the principle of “regression.”

Nothing bearing resemblance to a personality could be found.

Both interpretations of her having lost her sanity or having never sane in the first place are possible.

The meaning of her existence was to simply birth, raise, and cherish her children, but since that had been rejected, she embarked on a battle against humanity which had decided that they did not want her anymore. She operates under the extremely primitive system of having to exterminate humanity if she wants to survive.

Motivations, behavior towards master.

One among another 7 billion. Just another thing to be terminated.

To humans, Beast II is a horrifying invader, but to Beast II, humans are frightening aliens.
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>>162236432
Just get Gun God to shoot it with the Black Barrel and turn it into a cute loving waifu
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>>162236405
Maybe, maybe not. The original mention of "seven Counter Guardians controlling Primate Murder" said that the Servants of the Holy Grail War were based on them.
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>>162236401
Also Ishtar did not actually know Ereshkigal was taking over her body at night.
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>>162235664
I added you too if that's alright.
I think Arjuna is in my "All" slot.
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>>162236401
>Ereshkigal is the one we spend the most time bonding with
>She is the one who isn't playable
fuck off Nasu
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>>162236504
There is literally no Servant or Servants strong enough to put a dent in Primate Murder
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>>162236547
Kay. Will add you after this battle.
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Anyway it looks like your group is going to go into the underworld to drag Gilgamesh back to life.

I still don't understand why he died.
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>>162236608
Cool story bro but Altera killed him in the Extraverse :^)
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>>162235853
>t. EOP using Google Translate
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>>162236449
>>162236608
Except the seven that got together to get it under control in the past.
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>>162236505
>Doesn't look like Tiamat is ever going to be playable, her bio flat out says she has no personality or actual anything about her aside from robotic urges
>While she does hold a grudge and bears hatred and sadness for being abandoned after her purpose has been fulfilled, she is doing this to indulge in the “joy” of once again becoming the mother of everything.

Fill her with the joy of making her a mother ritsuka
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>>162236249
>>162236270
Nasu wrote himself into a corner and contradicted himself there. That's not how time works in the Nasuverse.

See, based on what you guys are saying, the problem is that Merlin never died. If he can't die, then he can't enter the Throne of Heroes, right?

The Throne of Heroes is outside the axis of time, so if Merlin was able to be summoned in the past before he was born, that means he still managed to find a way to enter the Throne of Heroes. And if we has in the ToH to begin with, he should be entirely summonable when he was alive.

If he never died, he should never have been in the ToH in the first place and thus he should be entirely un-summonable from any era.
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>>162235091
>even the second-strongest or third-strongest
He is THE strongest of the Saber class. He can do literslly anything from assassination, infiltration, falseflagging, bombing, sniping, defense against beams and AoE attacks, close combat, protection against status problems and even swordbeam and making beams explode from inside.

No other Saber can possibly even come close to all the shit Lancelot can do. FSG alone puts Lancelor above most Sabers.
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>>162236649
Gilgamesh died because Nasu wanted to give us a reason to venture down to the underworld with Ishtar because there's a story where she does that.
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>>162236238
Doesn't unsealed Excalibur shit on Ea now? Wasn't Ea more powerful when Gil was alive as Enkidu said?

I can't keep up with all the powerlevel and powercreeping recently.
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>>162236773
>He can do literslly anything from assassination, infiltration, falseflagging, bombing, sniping, defense against beams and AoE attacks, close combat, protection against status problems and even swordbeam and making beams explode from inside.
But he can't win a Grail War
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>>162236282
It doesn't matter. Shirou was alive in the era EMIYA was summoned into.
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>>162236401
That's correct. Also, because of the singularity's space time shenanigans, instead of being summoned into a priestess of this era the ritual unintentionally snagged Rin as the host.
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>>162236759
>Nothing bearing resemblance to a personality could be found.
>Both interpretations of her having lost her sanity or having never sane in the first place are possible.
>Motivations, behavior towards master.
>One among another 7 billion. Just another thing to be terminated.
Nothing indicating she'd ever be summoned, would be able to be summoned, that Chaldea would want to summon, or that she'd do anything aside from fuck over humanity if she were to be summoned

She's just going to be boss only shit forever, wasted artist and voice
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>>162236831
BTFO
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>>162236808
>Doesn't unsealed Excalibur shit on Ea now?
It does. It one shot Sefar. Gilgamesh has no chance againsy Sefar.

Rhon too has a power of 3M compared to Enuma Elish 4k.
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>>162236770
The way I understood it was Merlin essentially retconned himself into the Throne of Heroes by defining a time period where he must be "dead"
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Calling it now, the plot's going to lead into a Tsukihime crossover event where we need Arcueid's help to deal with whatever bullshit popped up in Babylon.
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Incidentally I like how in a choice between making the goddess of life or the goddess of death the main waifu, Nasu went with the goddess of death.

The F/GO MC has an odd track record with preferring people that would typically be considered evil.
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>>162236759
Summoning a monster to end humanity is a bad idea, it will never happen and I'm glad.
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>>162236913
>Throne of Heroes be like
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>>162236858
>>162236929
Maybe, maybe not. If DW / Aniplex want it, it will happen.
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>>162236913
It works the same way as Kojiro's case I bet. Dude wasn't in the throne before but once he got summoned once, he retroactively got in.
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>>162236831
Not with a shit Master like Kariya. But I know of a certain Knight that had the best master of all the Moon Cell, and still didn't win the War.
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>>162218146
>tfw still no servant to Grail
Give me Merlin or EMIYA Alter already
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>>162236926
Well the goddess of life is kinda an asshole in this story.
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>>162236963
It doesn't make sense though and looking at the story it never will.
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>>162236974
>But I know of a certain Knight that had the best master of all the Moon Cell, and still didn't win the War.
He did win, though.

You do remember Leo acknowledged Hakuno as the superior Master, right? You did actually PLAY the game, right?
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>first round of UR/6* is going to be Merlin, King Hassan, and Solomon
Get ready for those 0.1% rates.
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>>162236913
So the implication wasn't so much that they time-traveling to that era was what allowed Merlin to be summoned, but more like the fact that a past without Merlin alive exists?

If Merlin retconned himself into the ToH, he should be summonable from any era. That's what I'm getting at.
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>>162236926
Except Ishtar is the one they actually end up with because Ereshkigal isn't summonable at all

>>162236963
There's no way for them to write her into the story as a summonable character without undermining the plot. She won't be summonable.

I'm just glad I can finally spend my quartz since now I know for a fact that Mother Harlot is 100% nonplayable
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>>162236952
Throne of Heroes is cute, can the Throne itself be summoned as a servant?
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>>162237054
In terms of stats Leo blows everyone out of the water as a Master. Materials confirm.
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>Ishtar doesn't want to go to the underworld and tries to run away.
>Quetzy blocks off her exit and drags her with you.

>>162237091
Doesn't matter, in the actual plot (you) spend most of your time with Ereshikigal.
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>>162237054
Nero is Hakuno's canon servant dumb cuck :^)
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>>162237175
And yet he lost. Why can you still not understand, poor Melvin? Stats don't matter. That's why every time you latch onto something with nice-looking stats, you wind up disappointed by their performance. You only look at the numbers, when those are some of the least important things in servant matchups.
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>>162237007
Cute.
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>>162237184
Based onee-san.
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>>162237175
It was never a matter of stats, Leo was hollow inside, if he had won he have doomed humanity.
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>Chapter 14 is titled "Farewell, Goddess of the Underworld".

Oh nooooo
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>>162236714
Whatever you say Melvin.
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>>162237184
Doesn't matter, in the actual game (you) spend all of your time with Ishtar

Nobody gives a fuck about NPCs you can't even play with and Nasu is a mouth breathing retard if he thinks anyone would actually choose to care more about a fucking NPC than the one you can actually summon and have in My Room/Combat
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So the second choice, the easy choice, is the one where you side with Ereshkigal?

I really don't care either way. Ishtar chose to ignore my many many attempts to roll her and Ereshkigal will never be playable.
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I can't even tell who's melvin anymore
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>Enkidu always gets the Arts buff when he has NP and 3 Quick cards up
Fuck this dumb buff and fuck this Servant in general
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>>162237389
It's okay to be Melvin as long as you don't like that Reddit Servant King Hassan.
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>>162237338
You clearly don't understand Japanese if you think that she's starting to find him attractive in those lines.
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>>162237392
Worst 5* Lancer by far.
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>>162237392
Glad I rolled Caster Gilgamesh
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>>162237381
Which choice is this so I can choose Ishtar because she actually came to me and Ereshkigal isn't even fucking playable despite Nasu ramming her down our throats
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>>162237392
Wew I guess every other Mana Burst must also be shit then since they only ever give a Buster buff no matter what cards you have.
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>>162237470
I like his art, VA and animations so it could be worse, at least I have some reason to field him occasionally.
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Okay so chapter 14 is in seven parts to represent the seven gates Ishtar had to cross in the original myth.

When you reach the first gate, Ishtar explains how there are trials you have to pass. The first one?

The gate calls you out (by name, which Ishtar thinks is strange) and asks

"Ereshikigal or Ishtar. Which one is more beautiful?"
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>>162237449

and you dont even understand english but thats not stopping you, kike
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>>162237678
Thanks for the TL, I'll be sure to choose not-Rin.
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>>162237678
TL the follow-up to each answer please
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>>162237678
Right. And the top answer seems to always be Ishtar while the bottom seems to be Ereshkigal.

Shit, these gates are really out to fucking kill Guda.
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>>162237542
At least almost every other Mana Burst user can NPBBC
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>>162237694
>t. EOP in its natural habitat, displaying threatened behaviour upon exposure of its mental deficiencies
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>>162237392
Maybe you should learn to work with that possibility?
Not hard.
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>>162237765
Which depends on card draw, just like how Transformation depends on card draw.
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>>162237761
>eop
>kept choosing bottom cos it kept giving angry/annoyed Rin portraits

Well that worked out I do think Ereshikigal is cuter
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Saying Ereshikigal was prettier had the gate go DING DING DING, and I guess makes the ensuing fight easier?
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>roll caster gil and medea lilly
Why does this game insist on giving me casters?
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>>162237761
Guda should just go with the Shirou Excuse
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>>162237761
They need to bring these gates back for the event where they release Sakura so Rin can have her turn at getting BTFO by her own sister
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>>162237902
Hey it could have been worse, you could have rolled Enkidu
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Anyone got the links to the music tracks for Babylon on youtube. Them themes are pretty good
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>Every time Ishtar passes through a gate, it shocks her a little and takes off some of her clothes like in the original myth.

Ereshikigal is going all out.
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>>162237783
>>162237694
>>162236714
>>162235853
>Is that Caesar? It's Caesar, isn't it...? No way! But... But he still looks fantastic even when he's fat, what's up with that!? No way!
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>>162238217
Don't reply to Melvin.
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>>162237392
You're still guranteed a buster up though which is great when used alongside his NP.
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>>162238336
Yeah shit like that shouldn't be left chance.
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>>162236714
>>162237449
>>162237783

>>162238217
KEK
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>>162238217
Reddit translation
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>>162237761
>>162237678
>>162238125
Does the dialogue actually change depending on whether or not you pick Ishtar or Ereshkigal?
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>>162238441

>>162238409
KEK
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>>162238217
She's trying to convince herself that he looks good but fails to do so. Rather than "what's up with that" it's "what in the world is this", rather than "no way" it's "I can't believe it".

Seriously, stop plugging things into Google Translate and learn some context.
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>>162238217
>Upon defeat:

>Heheh... It's better than being fat... Better than being fat...

>When you have Caesar:

>That's Caesar-sama...? It's Caesar-sama, right? Oh, I just don't know what to believe in anymore! Hm, but maybe no matter how plump he might still look good the hell is that!? It's impossible!!

>Liked things:

>What I like? It can't be any other than beautiful things, right? The Medjed gods are my super favorite! ...ah, don't talk to me about Caesar-sama. It makes me want to die.
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>>162238217
If you actually listen to the line read in the game it's very clear she's trying to talk herself into finding him attractive at first, but can't do it and goes back to exclaiming about how he's fat.
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>Ereshkigal fight is just a giant spooky ghost
fucking why would they waste her like this she should've been a playable servant as a surprise
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>>162238626
>Seriously, stop plugging things into Google Translate and learn some context.

The irony.
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>>162238728
Because if they made a sprite of her it would trigger all the faggots that rolled for Ishtar wanting Rin when Eresh is better in every way.
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>>162238728
F/GO season 2 with Ereshkigal (EXTRA Rin) with ST np
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>>162238728
because she is a spooky ghost that is 2 spooky 4 you
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>>162238693
>>162238217
Kek
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>>162238781
Didn't stop them from making palette swaps of Iri and Ilya for their respective events.
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>>162238728
Because that's what she actually looks like.
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>>162238674
>>162238693
>>162238734

lel
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>>162238734
That's a pretty poor mistranslation of the lines even if you aren't using Google. You left out all the little nuances in the speech.
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>>162238871
That doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to summon Rin Ereshkigal
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>>162238836
Have to do something about the huge ass now though
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>>162238928
Actually it means exactly that.
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What are the final two options?
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>>162238960
Lewd slip up.
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>>162238925
You should stop plugging things into Google Translate and learn some context :^)
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>>162238978
why that's like saying we shouldn't be able to summon Rin ishtar because her actual form doesn't look like Rin
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>>162239070
There's only one room for spooks and that's King Hassan
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>>162238925
No it isn't. But do feel free to elaborate on what makes you think so.
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>>162239131
Heroic Spirit Steiner when lads?
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Jesus christ this lag is awful.
Enkidupocalypse and Babylon make Saber/Rider exp day impossible to get through quickly.
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Are all gods supposed to be programmed?Cause the Olympians look rather glitchy.
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>>162238979
The top option is saying Ereshkigal is not evil and the bottom option is an apathetic response where you say you're not interested.

Choosing the top option makes the next battle a tremendous pain in the ass though.
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http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/nfkbbo/

fucking nothing
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>You go to the underworld to save Gilgamesh.
>You run into him at gate 3.

He didn't even need your help.
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>>162239164
>reddit translations
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>>162239194
I think that was just an example used by merlin to explain how they shouldn't love humanity and that their love is more like a bug.
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>>162239236
12月10日が、リリースしてからちょうど500日ということで、12月10日(土) AM4:00~12月11日(日) AM3:59までにログインしたユーザーを対象に、「叡智の猛火 ALL4(SR)」を10枚プレゼントいたします!

Literally FREE 4* mates
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He does realise he has his trip on right
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>>162239310
>ALL
lol
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>>162239310
ebin free 4* exp
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>>162239310
Are you retarded?
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>>162239263
The real question is how did he die
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>>162239236
>expecting anything from DW after a major chapter is released.
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>>162239210
I think you might have gotten that the wrong way, anon
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>>162239323
>>162238835
Stupid Melvin
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>>162239236
OH WOW FREE EXP CARDS THANKS DW
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>>162238781
Why would I get triggered when I got Ishtar in 1 ten roll?
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>>162239414
I like how they wait for everyone to be caught up in the new order before they hide the announcement of this gimp as fuck "event"

We're not even getting any fucking quartz for this jesus christ
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>>162239236
>Modest reward
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>>162239236
Perfect. Going to need all the tickets I can get. I don't know what I want, but there are definitely a few servants coming out that I'm interested in. Particularly Quetz and maybe Hassan.

A shame Da Vinci isn't coming back ever.
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>>162239520
Da Vinci will 100% be in the New Years Jew Gacha
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>>162239323
He should fuck off back to /r/fgo.
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>>162239236
I'll be getting those 5 tickets at the same time I get my 20 bonus quartz

Everything is starting to align. I will have plenty of chances to get Gil or Medusa out of this gacha, I'll build up so much hope, and replace it with absolute despair.
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>>162239559
Well true. I forgot about that, but saving up isn't going to matter at that point since you gotta pay for that.
>>
What are the odds of getting a 4* again? All I want is a new dusa.
>>
Quetzal went from
>lol bearded manface shit
in the TVCM aftermath to
>My cute lucha wife, would roll for 10/10

what went right

>>162239693
3% per roll, rate-up is split between her and Caster Gil though
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>>162239520
>still need to finish the free quests in Camelot
>also now have Babylon free quests
>just got 20 quartz bonus
>getting 5 tickets soon
With any luck I should be ready for when Merlin and King Hassan get added to the gacha.
Hopefully they have some good stuff in the New Year's paid gacha too, been a while since I bought quartz so I don't mind.
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>>162239236
>5 tickets
>all the quartz I'm getting from Babylon
>already got lolidusa
>still want Enkidu but don't want to push my luck
The temptation is strong.
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>>162239164

>>162238674
>>That's Caesar-sama...? It's Caesar-sama, right? Oh, I just don't know what to believe in anymore! Hm, but maybe no matter how plump he might still look good the hell is that!? It's impossible!!
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>>162239730
anon let's be honest you'll be lucky to see a 5* no matter how much quartz you save
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>>162239872
Well yeah, that's kind of the hope, that I get lucky.
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>>162239756
From what I've seen this has been one of the friendlier gachas. A lot of people have gotten Enkidu. You should try again if you really want him.

Speaking of which, what gachas has had the worst results in terms of luck rolling? Is it Scathach?
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>>162239756
>Got Enkidu and Medusa in a single 10
>Don't care about Medusa at all and I doubt she's ever getting leveled
I wish I could give her to someone who cares
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>>162239872
Optimism is the best way to avoid depression.

Even to the point of delusion, its better than absolute pessimism.
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>>162239721
In game art is better and cuter than TVCM art.
Endearing personality, good animations, good sprite.
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>>162239164

>もう~、何も信じられない!

This is an expression of disbelief, her worldview is being shattered by the existence of fat Caesar. "No way!" Is technically accurate but doesn't convey just how much despair she's in.

>んん……でもでも、どんなにふくよかでも素敵に見えるとか何なのよアレぇ!?

She rattles off the line quickly and directly goes into the exclamation of 何なのよアレぇ without stopping, whereas you added a comma for no good reason. It's her walking back her previous comment. Also, the use of とか is an indication of uncertainty in this case, which also wasn't conveyed in the translation.

>ああんあり得ないぃぃ!!

Lastly, please do go listen to the actual, voiced line before concluding this is a "No way!" said because she can't believe how good looking he is.
>>
How well would 2030 or victor from the moon work for Ishtar?
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>>162239952
It's a very friendly gacha. I did a few memerolls right after the servers went up and got Waver. Did a 10 roll after clearing the story and got Medusa.

Scat gacha is always fucking terrible, I blow everything I have on it every time it shows up and I have yet to get her.
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>>162239872
Yeah, I used to be like that. Convinced I'd never get a 5*. I finished 2015 without ever rolling a 5* Servant on my main.

Now I have fourteen 5* Servants on my main, and seven on my alt
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>>162239997
Victor from the Moon would work really well with her. Give 2030 to your Caster or 4* party member instead.
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>>162239991
>She rattles off the line quickly and directly goes into the exclamation of 何なのよアレぇ without stopping, whereas you added a comma for no good reason. It's her walking back her previous comment. Also, the use of とか is an indication of uncertainty in this case, which also wasn't conveyed in the translation.

You clearly have no grasp of colloquial Japanese.
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>>162239963
I feel you. Like I don't even care if trading is a thing. I have like four 5* and a bundle of 4* that aren't leveled and I don't care for.

I know there are gameplayfags here dying for a Waver and I would even donate to them to make them happy but he is just here gathering dust in my inventory cold storage.
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>>162228529
CUM ON BUFF HER NP YOU FAGS HOLY SHIT
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>>162239952
Ishtar, Scathach, Okita all had high anon body counts
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>>162239236
>another chance at trying to get Enkidu
Hey man I'll take it

I'm trying to scrounge up what I can from Babylon as well
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>>162239963
Better np stun than Enkidu though.
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>>162239952
I'd agree that it's Scathach gacha. I had to whale a shit ton before I got her.
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>>162239721
Only people that care about her post now. I still think she is ugly as fuck which is why I don't post about her.
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>>162239462
>We're not even getting any fucking quartz for this jesus christ
That's only true of the shitters (like yourself) who didn't start playing at or around launch. The loyal Android master race players who did will be getting our quartz.
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Has any part of Babylon been translated yet?
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>>162240205
Now THIS is shilling.
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>fighting Quetzalcoatl
>wipes your team at the first try at ~80k HP left
>try second time
>get distracted as she performs piledriver on Jack
>battle finish
so uh what the fuck just happened
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>>162240272
I can't hear your butthurt whining over my 500 login quartz.
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>>162239462
We're getting five more tickets out of this. Be grateful we at least get that.
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>>162236238
So is there concept art or anything out there of what Primate Murder looks like? All we know is it's some kind of wolf. Is he a bipedal wolf like the big bad in Mahoyo? A giant "normal" wolf like the ones in Mononoke Hime? And how smart is the thing supposed to be? As smart as a wolf, the equivalent of Berserker, etc.
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>>162238728
This is the same as the Drug-user Hassan we met at Camelot
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>>162220568
I swear he is the humanoid form of Fou.
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>>162236238
>Enuma Elish destroys worlds
Why are so many so retarded that they fail to understand the concept of what "Anti-World" means for a NP? Gilgamesh can't blow up a planet with one blast. Anti-world means being able to shred things like RMs.
>>
I hope we get another Archer Gilgamesh rate up sometime soon.
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>>162240489
You do know it's a pasta right?
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>>162240057
I did 4 10 rolls and got my 2nd Vlad, Lolidusa, Enkidu, and all the new CE's.
Did a memeroll with the summoning ticket they gave us today and got Rama.
Say what you will about Lolidusa, Enkidu and CasGil but at least they're being rolled. Lots of happy players.
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>>162239419
No, that's right.

The top option is where you say Ereshkigal isn't evil and the bottom is the one where you tell her you don't care.

The top option causes her to spam NP and Skill locks every turn for some reason.

Doesn't make sense, but that's how it is. You're nice to her and she throws debuffs at you for it. What a bitch.
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>>162240381
>The use of とか is meant to indicate uncertainty in

"~とか何なの" is a common colloquialism.
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>>162240087
Really? Have you actually listened to the line? She literally changes tone mid-sentence. And she is definitely uncertain when trying to say he is hot even while fat.
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>>162240676
The right path isn't always the easiest one, anon

For the sake of glorious Eresh, I have to proclaim her innocence.
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>>162240712
The line is her expressing disbelief, then shifting to "maybe it's not so bad", then expressing disbelief at herself for thinking so.

It's really not hard to understand for anyone who can actually understand Japanese.
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>>162240676
So that's why it was a pain. Well beat her anyway. Altera is stronk.
(Thanks debuff resistance)
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I tried to roll for Medusa and I ended up getting Heracles. Fucking better than expected, I had BAHSAHKAH in my former account and I missed him
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>>162240803
>then expressing disbelief at herself for thinking so.
So what everyone been saying for the last 30 minutes cool what are you arguing about
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>>162240918
Ask >>162238925
>>162238626
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What is he saying?
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>>162241057
>Can't believe I held off on writing for this garbage
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>>162241091
>Babylon written by Narita
If only.
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>>162240979
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>162241157
>You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started!

We're in a general, dipshit.
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>>162240918
>>162240381
Just to recap:

>This line is strongly worded.
Subjective.

>The use of とか is meant to
Load of retarded bullshit.

>impossible to mistake this for
I never said that. >>162238217

So I guess this autist who doesn't understand Japanese was randomly attacking me with that Reddit/Google translation shit because he didn't read my fucking post to begin with? Figures. >>162241157
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Where the hell is the new thread?
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>>162241242
>replying to pasta
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>>162241254
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>162241057
Something about being happy? He waited till chapter 7 before volume 4 of strange fake
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>>162241242
Are you even trying to be subtle? Stop defending yourself and drop your shitty trip, faggot.
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>>162241057
The fucker was holding off on writing the fourth book until after Babylon was released so I guess we can forget about it being released before Comic Market.

Also he's changing stuff again.
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>>162241242
>defending tripfaggots
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>>162241357
>>162241254
>>162240087
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>>162241364
>Translations and spoilers
That's a pretty valid use of a tripcode if there ever was one.
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>>162241424
>>162241364
>>162241321
>>162241157
>eop faggot pretends to understand japanese
>gets super BTFO'd
>resorts to shitposting

KEK
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>>162241357
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>162241254

Here:
>>162238409
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>>162241428
Stop dropping your trip to defend yourself you little faggot.
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>>162241486
Holy shit, shut up, that's more annoying than a tripfag could ever be.
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>>162241525
Fuck off Formerly Extella spoilers !ckxuZHx89.
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>>162241517
>>162241487
Nice try Melvin :^)
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>>162241458
But Formerly-Extella-spoilersanon, I was never part of your shitty translation argument. I just think you're a raging tripfag.
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>>162241057
If only this shitty chapter had been written by Narita.

It shows Nasu can't write anything that doesn't involve Arturia or it'll be shit.
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>>162241517
The guy just spent thirty minutes plus defending himself WITH his tripcode on, and continues posting with it now. Why do you think he all of a sudden dropped it?
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>>162241486
>>162241517
>>162241575
>>162241579
Yep, that's one butthurt EOP.
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>>162241647
>defending tripfags
>>>/reddit/
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We finally have content and this is how you people choose to post? Shameful.
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>>162241329
>>162241357
>We have to wait till Spring again
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>>162241616
Don't feed the fucking troll.

Holy shit why can't this general understand this basic internet concept?
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>>162241665
I dressed up Okita Saber and gave a guy a blowjob at a con, I don't even own her.
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>>162241616
Been ten minutes since he posted now someone shitposting everyone except him who could this mysterious person be
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>>162240701
What if とか is separate from 何なのよアレ?
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This may take forever but it feels nice taking 0 damage from almost everything and casting np back to back.
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>>162241616
There's really nothing to defend myself from, though.

Everything there is to be said is in >>162241254

The guy couldn't understand a simple colloquialism and was screaming about nuances that never existed outside of his head and a statement I never made.

And yeah >>162241683
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>>162241745
Fuck off.
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>>162241737
I ran Waver, Iri, and Merlin and I had a fucking blast in that fight.

It ends after 15 turns anyway.
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>>162241737
It's true. Spamming NPs with Arjuna, Mashu and Merlin was the fucking best even if they're not an optimal setup.
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Someone bake a bread.
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>>162241779
lol
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>>162241798
Oh thought I had to get her close to half hp.

I really need to stock up quartz for merlin.
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>>162241745
Don't feed the shitposters.
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>>162242074
I feel like DW will nerf his skillset when we can roll him, they're just way too good.
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>get 20 quartz earlier today for some reason
>roll and get nothing
>time hits 12 AM, my birthday, coincidentally get my 150th benchmark for quartz, another 20
>roll 3 times,
>new 5 star CE, another 5 star CE and Enkidu

Could be worse, but an unexpected present from DW. I did need a 5 star lancer after all. A shame he seems so shit though, oh well. Ozy will carry him.
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>>162240676
That goes back to the conversation Guda had with King Hassan earlier. He basically told Guda to reject both evil and hedonism. As a result, picking the options rejecting both Ereshkigal and Quetzalcoatl result in an easier fight.
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>>162241737
You can also actually fight with her, she run away at 1m200k HP as I remember. I won in 8 turns.
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>>162241798
I did the same, anon. It was very comfy.
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>>162242238
He's not that bad.
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>>162242238
>he's shit

That is a reddit meme. Watch the memelist place him as 8.5.
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>>162242238
If he was more lewd I would use him.
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>>162242336
Thank god he isn't.
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>>162242238
Have you actually tried him? His np gain is decent, he's an immortal tank, shits stars for a Lancer and he applies defense down before his NP hits. He only needs an interlude.
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>>162242238
>>162242297
>>162242326
"Shit" is a bit harsh because he isn't even Amakusa-bad, but he definitely has some glaring weaknesses.
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>>162242326
Memelist literally has nothing good to say about him though.
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>>162241057
There's still manga, right? We'll get more pictures of True Servants and their Masters, right?
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>>162242297
>>162242326
Well, even if he is or isn't I'll still use him. My only lancers were Kiyohime and Vlad, it got to the point I was so thirsty for a lancer I had to grail Cu so he could help carry at points during events(he did, god bless).

>>162242381
Only time I tried him was guest servant, I spent all my exp cards on other servants during christmas so I'm running low. He'll get up there eventually. Hopefully his interlude won't be as bad as Siegfrieds or Lancelot's.
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>>162242383
The 3Q deck and lack of a dodge, guts or invincibility means he won't be a top tier lancer. Though if I were to pick, I'd fix the latter for even more survivability rather than touch his deck. Really, giving him something as boring as a guts would be helpful enough.
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>>162242383
He only needs a NP interlude.

Honestly, the people bitching about him have not really tried him. It's Summer Tamamo and Scat all over again. Scat was shit because of her garbage NP gain until you guys figured out she wasn't, Tamamo was shat on for weeks because of her demerits.
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>>162242383
Funny thing is he'd work somewhat well with Amakusa.Seeing as his skills provides NP for himself and stars for the team, allowing you to be more selective with cards not counting any CEs you may have on either of them.
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>>162241663
>>162241486
>>162241517
>>162241575
>>162241579
Yep, that's one butthurt EOP.
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Someone fucking bake
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>>162242501
I still hate using Tamamo Lancer, even if her demerits don't make her bad I still sure don't enjoy using her.
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>>162242532
>defending tripfaggots
>>
>le thousand post meme
>le no new thread
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>>162241745
Please translate Extella sub-stories!
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>>162242481
That was in the past. Now the game has moved on and most of the actual challenging enemies in exhibitions or quests debuff your Servant and can pierce dodges like they were a piece of paper. Dodges are useless unless you face shitters you can kill with double Cus.
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>>162242501
Tamamo has much better NP gain than Enkidu though. His NP hits hard but he can't spam it as often. Though I agree most of the complaints come from people who've maybe used him three times as story support.
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>>162242573
>>162242628
It will die and you will like it.
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>>162242643
So you're saying Enkidu will see more use the next time some super high difficulty quests roll around?
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I've literally been waiting an hour for a new thread so I can post about chapter 14.
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New thread
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>>162242775
Asswipe
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>>162241665
Haven't seen any shitposting in a while. Must be the filters doing their job.
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>>162242547
None of the Lancers are super good units. NONE. Not even Scat. Scat relies on Kaleido to be usable, or double Waver/Servant who helps her raise her NP. She has good skills and NP, but her NP gain is absolute trash. Tamamo has an okay NP, and good gain, but her skills are situational and the demerit would hurt her in a serious match where the enemy cannot be one shot. Enkidu also has issues, but they aren' as grave as people think. He's just another awkward Lancer.

DW seems to be fucking with this Class because of the multiplier.
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Do we know if it's safe to blow all our grails yet or do we still need to save them?
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Baking
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>>162242825
HURRY
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>>162242804
I think Lancer Alter's pretty alright.
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>>162242573
>>162242654
>defending tripfaggots
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>>162242820
Save them for what?
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>waiting until 1k posts page 10
you daft cunts
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>>162242882
Nah it's Li Shuwen.
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>>162242326
But reddit say he is god-tier 10/10>>162218790
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>>162227936
If you go by stats both Solomon and Merlin are also nothing special. And Azrae is not even King Hassan main NP, is just him swinging his sword a bit harder than usual.
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1010 lads?
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Who gives a shit if it dies or whatever? A new one will be made, so stop being autistic.

Is this a retarded /vg/ thing?
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>>162242649
I disagree, his gain is decent because of his quicks, his quicks produce enough stars for him to crit often. Tamamo's gain is better, but he's no Scat who needs a limit broken kaleido or Wavers to be functional.

That said, all Lancers have issues, not just Enkidu. They are weird in general. I feel that the best gold Lancers are Kiyohime and Lancer Alter.
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>>162242902
We apparently need 7 to save the world and one extra to save our kouhai.
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>>162227936
>C rank NP
Do not trust that because according to the same Garden of Avalon is C and we know that's impossible. It's probably a placeholder.
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>>162241692
>I don't even own her.
Whoah. That's like double haram.
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