/domg/ - Dominions General

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>>162197981
First for scouts being eaten by wolves.

First for Aboleth traps.

>>162197981
>Tfw thread died because erryone is playing but me, who can never get a game

There should be an easier way to tell what gems your cap generates before you actually start playing them
I can't go do innovative strategies if I don't know what gems I'll initially have

Lukas do your fucking turn or we're all going AI reeeeeee

I need more time for natgen, and it's not a joke.

Thanks.

>>162201317
DomgNationsGen, i mean.

Just got a Chayot, I never used them before. Do they keep their gear when they shape shift between forms? Also do their buffs persist through changing shapes? For example if I script it to Body Ethereal -> Change Shape -> Mistform will it have both mistform and etherealness?

>>162201736
Yes and yes.

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Look Vanheim, I'm attacking Mari for you. Don't question the proximity of my frogs!

>>162201736

Gear only gets lost if they have to go through a form that lacks those gear slots. Note: They'll attempt to return to the form they started the battle in, once it's over, so Skratti, for example, need to go through wolf form, which has misc slots only, if they start human and then go to werewolf over the course of the battle.

Not an issue for Chayots, I don't think, but that's how it works.

>>162201014
Quitting? I guess that means I win again.

>>162202168

We welcome anyone who wish to destroy Marignon. You should lift the siege of my capital and I will pay you 2000 gold and also suck your dick in a non homosexual way.

>>162202832
Can I touch your bum in a semi-homosexual way?

>>162203049

Only if you look like a girl

I bought the game.

Now I realized I barely have the time to learn to play it online again

Well time to get meme'd by ermor on the starting scenario

>>162186585
>>162187079
I wanted to do an onmyo-ji focused strategy when I first played jomon, but I found out quickly it doesn't work out well.

StR really hurts, it means you need 2x the amount of infrastructure (at 1500 gold each province and taking 6 turns). If you end up building that many forts you'll be heavily behind on research, which is a death sentence for a nation without good sacreds/troops to help them through earlygame.

I did switch to onmyo-ji later in the game, and I found that worked quite well. However, at that point you likely have enough research to use all the random paths on Master Shugenja, so there's not a big difference in effectiveness between the two.

>>162205271
That makes total sense; cheers mate

>>162201471
When 48 day turn timers just aren't enough.

>>162205271
Would Jomon be better if Katana had 2 attacks instead of 1?

>>162207475
Obviously, yeah.

>>162204639

"Again"? Former Dom3 player?

>>162207475
Their troops would go from mediocre to amazing, and they have good paths to buff them up.

It's hard to say without actually playing it, but I think that chance would leave them as one of the stronger LA nations.

>>162208318
Could be someone who used a pirated copy while those were available.

>>162208480
What if no-dachi also had 2 attacks. Because superior nippon steel is used in both.

>>162208318
Used to be buttfag

Online is fun, managed to win some but never quite got the hang of it, my victories felt random af. But then it updated like a year ago and I couldn't play anymore

>>162208860
2 attack katana troops are about as good as 2 attack nodachi troops. Having both doesn't make much of a difference.

>>162209176
I was more thinking about the implications for Shinyu and Yomi.

>>162209367

It'd make Daibakemono seriously fucking vicious, that's for sure.

I've seen Shinu do well for themselves going full scales.

Ok I changed the hosting interval to 48hs. This is Sceleria's last chance, they're getting set ai if they stale again. We can't have stalers running the clock to 48h every time.

>Lemuria stops staling

In that case I will be staling as well.

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>>162216506
What's with her eyes?

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>>162217027
She wants the dagashi.

>>162217027
What's with eyes in general? Pretty fucked up if you think about it.

Can anyone upload the "Elmokki Dom3 Collection” (or just your maps for that matter)? The original link is dead as fuck.

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>patala

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Lucky_Thirteen

kaw kaaaaw kaaaaaaaaw kaaaaaaaaaaaaw kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw

>>162220936
http://koti.kapsi.fi/elmokki/dom3/maplist/

So I've actually been trying out Nihon Steel with 2 attacks. It makes a lot of units into real murder machines, especially Oni and Samurai, but they still die to bows and xbows respectively.

ede

Can a newshit get some advice?

I'm wanting to play Hinnom in an SP game, but I can't decide on a Pretender. The Son of the Fallen sounds promising but Population Killer seems like it would really fuck up your home province.

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>>162229569
You can move him out of your home province.

In general, I wouldn't bother with a titan-style pretender on Hinnom, though, just on account of the fact that you can recruit Melqarts that do that for your.

The cookie-cutter Hinnom build is an imprisoned N9E4 bull with strong income scales. The reason that you use this is so that your giant mage-priests can bless themselves and get regeneration and reinvigoration for free that otherwise requires items (costly in gems and equipment slots). For single player, making giant 'thugs' with this bless will be very strong, because the AI will have issues killing them since it doesn't really use mages very well, and with armor, a vine shield, and this bless, they will be able to withstand nigh-infinite numbers of weak enemy units.

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>>162229796
Thanks, Anon.

How do I make "thugs"?

>>162229931
You recruit a Melqart and give him a Vine Shield. Other gear is optional, because his default armor is actually pretty okay for handling the sorts of chaff you can expect the AI to field against you.

A Kohen can also work, though he'll also need armor and a weapon.

>>162202168
I sent you a PM.

How the fuck does blood magic work? It tells me I've found 10 good slaves and I have less than 10 total. My monthly income is 2. Where do those 10 good slaves go?

>>162232201
They're still being held on the bloodhunter until you bring them to a lab

>>162225812
Yeah, but once you get buffs they'll be murder machines which ignore ranged attacks. It wouldn't help their earlygame xbow vulnerability much, but it gives them a strong midgame and decent lategame that they currently lack.

2 attack katana might even be good enough to let you just rush enchantment for arrow fend, at which point crossbows cease to be a concern.

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holy shit

1st for FUCKING BIRDS

>>162234370
YUP

He's just as badass as he looks. The Grigori are arguably the best units in the game. Not listed in his stats is the fact that at the start of the fight, ALL enemy commanders have an MR check or be converted on the spot.

>>162234809
An MR check against 1, but it does sometimes work just due to how dicerolls are calculated.

>>162234370
>>162234809

>4S

Gee sure hope enemy didnt bring a few S1 to duel him that would be... painful... kidd...

>>162236707
If only there existed a spell that would let a mage survive losing a magic duel that requires F2 to cast.

>>162236916

If only there was a way to cast the duel defensively on the first turn before the enemy can act...

>>162237249
>there exists a way to take down an enemy unit that only requires the turn 0 advantage
That's true of literally any SC

We got a natgen turn boys!

>>162236707
Unless you feel keen on wasting half a dozen pearls per army per turn, he can just teleport is on targets without magic duel scripted.

>>162237687

So an expensive raider/thug rather than a SC.

>>162237661
And I staled because i had to sleep and no extensions. Oh, the irony.

On the other side no fucking vd turn fucking ever.

>>162238389
In that case, it's costing your enemy a bunch of pearls per army per turn as a countermeasure. That's a bigger amount than most gemgens give.

I'd call that worth just having it sit at home, let alone having it taking enemy provinces.

>>162238389
What the fuck do you think an SC is? Everything can be countered. An SC is something that can take on an enemy army with mage support that ISN'T set up to stop them.

>>162239682
an EF tart geared for MR and reinvig with a WF tart with a storm staff casting acid storm can only be countered by more tarts

>>162241519
or a bunch of storm generals with holy scourges

>>162234370
>>162234809
Not badass enough to stop abysia though.

>>162241610
>Playing not-EA

>>162241721
There's storm-immune flyers in EA too.

>>162241519
>>162241610
Or 2 golems with flambeaus.

>>162241773
well, for golems I'd definitely value the extra attacks from the scourges over the extra damage given their already high strength. scourges are cheaper too. I was listing storm immune flyers just on account of their being cheaper, and therefore requiring a lot fewer gems to one-shot the tarts

>>162241758
So you admit its impossible without storm-immune flying commanders?
>>162241773
Golems wouldn't be able to reach the tart in time.

>>162239643

How is it per turn? You slap those pearls and they stay there until they murder a Grigori or enough jew mages like Melqarts or Baals. A good trade either way. Try harder.

>>162239682

Counter a kin breaker with stacked mr then smartass.

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>>162242164

>>162242110
On time for what? Do you really think acid storm will do that much?
With N9 they can mostly ignore it.

>>162242110
No, that's just the answer that counters them cheaply. Tarts are undead, so any SC with anti-undead weaponry can chop them up. Even phoenix pyre isn't enough for them to sustain through that, since they'll die every round that they're in melee.

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>>162242376
You guys do realize that on death a mage with phoenix pyre teleports, right?

>>162242426
yes? I've both used and killed phoenix pyre SCs before.

>>162242458
Oh, you've killed phoenix pyre SCs with 15reinvig and 100+hp before?
Please do tell how it all happened.

>>162242298

WOAW 20 AN DMG AND 1 ATTACK against a 95 hp chassis with 10 base def plus 3 quickness it can self cast plus whatever gear, it will be like 0.01% to even hit. GOOD LUCK YOU HARD COUNTERED MY SC WITH A SHITTY WEAPON.

Meanwhile all the soul slays and blood just DOESN'T WORK.

>>162242524

Mind control. Thank you for your donation.

Or life for life, hell banishment. L4L needs a few casts to fatigue the fuck out of your guy with pyre but it can't miss.

>>162242524
I dropped a dusk elder squad on an archangel that was raiding my stuff. It didn't have 100+ hp, but I also didn't have a cheap item that does triple damage to it.
>>162242559
Oh, you're just shitposting. np then

>>162242524
I did. There's no unbeatable tactics, there's only circumstances that won't allow you to do what you need to counter shit. Mass bane fire kills everything, just like mass blood spells, just like mass GfH etc.

>>162242662

I'm not shit posting your weapon is shitty does shitty damage and has little chance to actually counter the SC. Good luck fucking hitting it with +1 attack when a fire brand gives way more defense.

Also did you fucking miss that it does 20dmg? Vs 10+ regen you need to stay in melee for several turns. Great plan friendo. Stay bad

>>162242745
Post your sc build, I'll post it dying

>>162242745
>Stay bad
Oh, it's aussies shitposting again.

>HOW DO YOU COUNTER MY UNCOUNTERABLE HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION HURR DURR
By having 60% win rate, kid.

>>162242164
>How is it per turn? You slap those pearls and they stay there until they murder a Grigori
You have a pearl on a S1 mage during a fight and he'll use it to cast a S2 spell.

Even with conserve gem usage on.Test it, it's dumb.

So you lose every pearl you had ready for magic duel each time you fight.

>>162242779

Kin breaker: armor of virtue, vine shield, fire brand, amulet of anti magic, starshine cap.

GOOD LUCK.

>>162242859

>60% LMAOF GIT GUD

>>162242964
I'll post it dying in 5 minutes.

>>162242964
>armor of virtue
That kinda makes it fail at doing whatever you want an SC to do. It'll go home if it meets a swarm caster

>>162243170

2hard4u then?

>Post your sc build, I'll post it dying

I am waiting.

>>162242964
>armor of virtue
Are you retarded? A single successful hit with dusk dagger/smasher will send it home. You literally have to drop a single flying thug on it to counter this shit.

>>162243237
What you posted does not function as a SC.

Still, it's definitely possible to finish off. I'll give it a shot myself if other anon doesn't show up with some results.

>>162242964
You sound like a person who never won a MP game.

>>162243237
I mean, that's not an SC build in that it literally can't accomplish anything. If you were to ever deploy that in a game it'd fail at taking or holding any province. If you want, I can make a game in which I take the oracle summoner's cap and then poke that with an N1 indy mage, but I think you can do that yourself.

>>162243320
I forgot that I need S1 to summon debug dudes for testing. As I said, 5 minutes.

>>162243240
>>162243335


>Post your sc build, I'll post it dying
>Post your sc build, I'll post it dying
>Post your sc build, I'll post it dying

What, moving the goalpost already? Kek

OK then add a horror harmonica as a misc, there, classic golem shitter.

>>162242629
Mind control against 27MR.
And what cheap astral unit would be so strong and survive long enough in an acid storm?
Or maybe we're going with the assumption that you have T1 with 1000 S1 monkeys.
>>162242629
Just let us be clear.
A tart has 170hp so to kill you need with l4l you would need 3 hits, (or 4 with a B3 mage)
Now pyre takes away less than 50fat, so the tart needs to die 3 plus 1 time to be killed completely.
Now assuming that all your virgins dont die on turn1 from acid storm, you will need to either cast a B3 spell 16 times or a B3+ spell 12 times in a single turn.
At this point I must ask where you're getting all these amazing blood mages.
Of course AI can be stupid and accidentally target the acid storm tart.


For some reason I'm skeptical about how well this will all work out.

>>162243386

No, you kinda failed that one before he did, because that isn't an SC build.

>>162243386
I like the reality fucker thing, actually. I'm using one in ginnug and it's hilarious

>>162243412
My mistake.
Make that 4 hits with a B3 mages and 5 hits with a B3+ mages.
or 16 or 20 hits, respectively.

Countering an armor of virtue or a golem that cast Ritual of Returning actually IS a neat challenge, I gotta say. It is unrelated to the Kinbreaker chassis, though. Kinbreak IS tough, but an actual SC build is fairly straightforward to kill with smasher thugs.

>>162243386
The guy who teleports to your capital every turn and doesn't even have magic phase movement is a shit SC to begin with.

>>162243604

Not when he stacks defense and as he doesn't need mr as much he can do it.

3 def quickness, 5 def parry, 1 def weapon, 4 def cat amulet, 3 def displacement armor - suddenly 26 def kin breaker pre experience!

>>162243703
Please, post your final build already. You changed it twice now.

>>162243604
The main weakness is that you can send it back simply by doing a single point of damage to it. If you can do that cheaply, it will fail to do anyway against your armies. At most it'll be a minor nuisance raiding provinces.

>>162243703
>all his equipment going to defense
Then I'll just use lightning spells. Easier than most SCs I've fought in actual games.

>>162243765

I did, this is other issue unrelated to that.

>>162242964

There it is

>>162243651
yeah, but a golem with a horror harmonica and armor of virtue or ritual of returning can jump on your armies, spam horrors, and then get sent home when either the horrors rout your army or your army clears them up and taps him. It's unrelated to his original build, but it is a neat... I don't even know what you'd call it. Super-weapon? It's very safe to use, is the thing, which is nice given the investment of a horror harmonica.

>>162243703
yeah, but even a 26 def kinbreaker can get smashed up by some vanjarls (or similar cheap generic thugs) in short order.

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>>162243821
Like this? Sure you don't want to fill other slots?

>>162243898

Horror harmonica and fly shoes.

>>162243943
Script?

>>162243943
a horror harmonica build honestly should swap out the fire brand and vine shield too. Vine shield kicks in after the first attack anyways, and while it's AMAZING at preventing a unit from being swamped, preventing damage after the first swing isn't that big of a deal for this guy. I'd go with maybe a bigger shield like the barrier (nice elemental resists on that too) or maybe stacking main gauches of parrying for super high defense

>>162244030

Bless, quicken self, earth power, call horror from item, call horror from item spells

Positioned all the way back right down corner

>>162244129
Armor of virute autoblesses, come on now, m8.

>>162244129
>this is secretly Jude trying to find the answer to Dr Lambert's Reality Fucker

>>162244186

Well I never use it so ignore bless and get more horrors

>>162244226
Being one of the guys who was asked about said problem, that's nowhere near the script Lambert's golem setup uses.

>>162244284
>script
I mean items, sorry.

>>162244284

The answer is to one shot the golem and good luck doing that without some serious STR stacking and a solid weapon.

Moon blade is 11 dmg x2 so perhaps on a 40 str chasis it could do

>>162244284
I mean, it's a different chassis too, but I imagine that whatever kills this kills that golem too, even if it ends up being something as inefficient as a billion ethereal crossbows.

>>162244356
Moon blade is slashing damage, unfortunately, so it gets halved.

>>162244356
Well, gifts would pretty reliably kill a golem in one shot if it hits.

Unfortunately, his supply of S/E mages is somewhat nonexistent.

>Moon blade is 11 dmg x2 so perhaps on a 40 str chasis it could do
Apart from the slashing resist other anon mentioned, lambert's golem spawns a ton of undead at battle start.

>>162244384
I'm expecting what >>162243335 said
>If you want, I can make a game in which I take the oracle summoner's cap and then poke that with an N1 indy mage, but I think you can do that yourself.
which is kinda useless in an actual game.

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Wow, that was hard.

>>162244630
but it's not dead

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>>162244673
Look at what's gonna happen next turn, nerd

>>162244701
It got dragged down to heck?

>>162244768
That's one way to deal with it. Though those dudes usually escape hell eventually. Nah, see, if a person decided that wasting 100 + 20 + 80 + X + Y gems on a SC is appropriate...

>>162244768
She'll never kill that Oracle. She has no means for that.

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Well, see, I actually did kill it.

By turn timer.

The onyx oracle doesn't like summoning more horrors, so it only ended up making a grand total of 3. The monolith killed them, then never killed anything else. It's surely possible to do this using something else, but yeah. Mindless!

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Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

>>162244945
I like this solution. You just need some mages that can kill horrors but can't damage the oracle sitting across the map from them, right?

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Local SC not so tough after being molested.

>>162245127
AND, I even fought in MA Agartha's native dominion and with N9 bless to maximize dude's HP.

>>162245120
He'll just script the Oracle to Atack after summoning third horror and he will kill all the mages or teleports back after they'll harm him.

>>162245214
Right, but if you know that he's coming with >>162244129 this script, then he's not going to know that there's a trap in place relying on him sitting in the back until he's triggered it and lost his oracle and so on

>>162244909
>no means for that
>no lightning res
>lightning damage is AN
Uhhh, excuuuuuuse me?..

>>162245824
How lucky must you get to deal 150+ points of damage in a single attack before Oracle teleports back?

>>162243851
>and then get sent home when either the horrors rout your army or your army clears them up and taps him
Actually, if you ever used horror harmonica golem you'd know it gets tapped out by his own horrors most of the time. Often 2-3 turns into a fight before producing a significant amount of them.

>>162246131
When I used it, the horrors seemed to prefer the stuff it was fighting for whatever reason. Maybe the fact that the golem's mindless? Whatever the reason, the horrors have almost never attacked my golem unless they've already gotten rid of the other stuff in the province. That said, the golem doesn't summon horrors after his script is over anyways, so he only ever makes 5.

>>162246196
My experience tells me horrors have zero priority targeting except maybe for magic beings.

They just go to a random/nearest target.

>>162246021
>lucky
I wished for armor of virtue and he died like a bitch. Spending 100 pearls + air gems to spam living clouds is a good price for killing a piece of shit you spent 300+ gems on.

>>162246294
>>162246294
It depends on the type of Horror greatly and on the square the Golem summoned that said Horror.

t. H.Harmonica pro

>>162246351
Not saying it wasn't worth it, but 100 pearls for the cast isn't the only cost of wish - there's a significant startup cost to deal with as well.

>>162246351
You are so smart. And the turn you did this pointless efforts the owner of the Oracle rushed all the Thrones and won the game. You suck.

>>162246449
>spend less resources killing your SC than you do making it
>"b-but I rushed all the thrones and won you suck!!!"

Guess how I know you've never won a game?

>>162246382
So it's random.

>>162246404
Well, EXCUSE ME, but to wish for Kin Breaker and craft artifacts you gotta do even more. Much more, considering horror harmonica is S6D4, which only can be reached by ether gate or rare national mages.

>>162246449
Pathetic.

>>162246485
Who cares about costs when the shit is done? This guy may have wished for your wish caster's death and you could have failed to steal Harmonica. Now what?

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>>162246449
>B-BIT MY DAD CAN BEAT UP YOUR DAD
SP fags BTFO

>>162246557
>wished for your wish caster's death
Please do that in the game and see what happens.

>you could have failed to steal Harmonica
Wishing for the artifact guarantees that you get it.

Honestly, you look like a person who never actually reached late-game in MP. You don't even know simple shit like that.

>>162246557
You can only wish for the death of pretenders, IIRC.

>>162246519
MA Agartha (doesn't need to wish for Kin Breaker), with S/D mages from a site could do it a lot more cheaply. You'd only need boosters plus ether gate, I think?

Of course, if you're assuming best case you could easily assume you took a S9 pretender too.

>>162246557
>Who cares about costs when the shit is done?
Please, point me at your name in sum1's scoreboard then.

>>162246497
Not quite. Horrors tend to avoid attacking Golems unless there are not mindless troops on the battlefield. But if the Horror is the non-teleporting type and the Golem standing beteen him and major part of the battlefield it attacks. Also it may attack if there are very few troops of enemy presents (for example 2-3 PD and 1 thug, he can attack the Harmonica owner instead). But if for counterexample you are sending your Golem with the ghouls from Arouse Hunger ritual then Horrors will target ghouls and not the Golem.

So basically Golem MAY GET HIT, so it's random yeah, but it's quite unlikely.

>>162246675
ngl, I wish people didn't do this. If anything, this is what I was worried was going to happen when there was a spot for player names put in the spreadsheet.

t. guy who does have wins but doesn't like chest-beating

>>162246640
I don't dispute the usefulness of harmonica/armor of virtue combo. I only pointed out a way to counter it that is cheaper (and faster) than the setup cost.

Besides, while you're reaching all those research goals and stockpiling pearls, some elf player can get 999 brand/vine shield thugs and take over the world with same amount of gems.

>>162246845
R'lyeh actually doesn't need anything special to make the harmonica or golems

>>162246601
The point is that to gear that Oracle you need Constr 8 and magic paths not higher than 6. And to Wish for Armor of Virtue you need to have Alter 9 and S9 caster. You can have first option with some medium efforts, but to have second option you need a lot more preparations, snowballing and maybe even pretender design adjustments.
Sure, that guy seems smart when he stole Armor with Debug Sensei for 1 pearl, but what about real game.
tl;dr: he is full of shit

>>162246938
Nick actually made almost the exact same thing in LAte as LA Riley. He even wished for Kin Breaker, the absolute madman.

>>162246976
In real game you don't need to kill SCs without magic phase movement. His air elemental spam would've countered that Oracle every single time, rendering it useless while he was free to fight on other fronts. Besides, "real game" is not about honorabru 1v1 combat most of the time.

TL;DR: To talk about real games, we have to see it used in real games.

>>162246976
in a real game, you wouldn't use a marble oracle; you'd use a regular golem because of its magic phase movement.

in a real game, you'd preferentially drop it on armies you think it can deal a lot of damage to but can't send it home on round one

in a real game, your answer would likely be to send it home to mitigate its damage, so that answering it is as cheap as possible, rather than outright killing it (which was the challenge posed)

>>162247082
Didn't he use kin-breaker as an actual SC and use a golem for the harmonica shenanigans? If not, why? kin-breaker isn't a good carrier for that just on account of lacking magic phase movement

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>>162247135
I don't remember about harmonica, honestly. I'm pretty sure it wasn't even crafted in this game.

Oh, yep, it wasn't crafted.

>>162247082
To counter that elemental spam the Oracle only need the support of Arouse Hunger or Call of the Winds or Call of the Wild spells or the best option is the Army of the Dead.
Horrors probably gonna kill all the elementals and the Queen herself.

>>162247251
I tested it with 25 PD, he dies anyway.

Stop defending this niche super-late-game tactics, please.

Can someone explain what makes Onyx Oracle so good?

>>162247354
It's mindless, so it's immune to paralyze and other spells like that.

He has high base prot and resistance, plus native pierce/slash resist.

He's sacred, so he can regen with N9 which frees the body slot for something else.

He has W1E3, which allows to cast water/earth buffs.

>>162247404
Oh, well.
I had one in LA Agartha(he is not exclusive to MA in WH5.5), I used him as generic EQ caster :(.

>>162247404
>>162247661

You forgot that he is lifeless so BLOOD spells dont affect him and thats a big counter usually.

And WE are great buff paths.

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An ingenious ruse, Tzee.

>>162248102
>>162248410
That mother fucker.

In other news the rats have begun attacking me and they have Hellpit abominations, so if you want to stem the rat horde and prevent them from attacking you please send me your energy (preferably in the form of earth or death gems)

Also the game will temporally be set to 48 hour turns for next week because I have Christmas tests.

>>162248487
Got any screenshots of their 8 blood slave, 80 HP, trample and swallow, regenerating summon in action?

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>>162248982
Unfortunately no, the bone rippers killed my PD and chaff before they could reach them.

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>>162249276
This is what a boneripper looks like by the way.

>>162197981
Can someone post the "FOOL MA ERMOR CASTS AS IT PLEASES" meme? I'm trying to collect spicy hot dom4 memes

>>162248487
Friendly reminder that unforeseen acts of rat god in no way invalidate any financial obligations you may or may not have. Check the fine print.

>>162249635
Good thing skeletons work for free then.

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Is there any reason to pick Virtue over say, Gryphon or Celestial Lion for a nation that has access to both? The only thing Virtue seems to have over these guys is Awe instead of Fear.

>>162249896
Slots.

>>162249896
virtue is a good midgame SC chassis, gryphons and lions are awake expanders.

Hey, i haven't played this d4 in quite a while and i want to get back into it, it's just that when i opened the game folders, i cant find the .exe or equivalent
Sorry for the dumb question but how do i start the game?

>>162251056
You should have a "dominions4.exe" in the game folder.

If it's not there, (assuming you're using steam) try verify integrity of the game files?

>>162251056
Uh, it should be called "Dominions4.exe", right in the game directory.
Steam, for example, places it at "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Dominions4\Dominions4.exe"

Reinstall/verify integrity (for Steam) if it isn't.

>>162251147
>>162251176
Nah m8s, i'm a coinless faggot
Ill just pirate it again, i don't know how the fuck i deleted the .exe and nothing else
I'll probably buy it in the future when i'm no longer a government leech

>>162251339
Did your anti virus delete/quarantine it

>>162251339
Actually is there a link anywhere for it? I have the 4.22 version but can only find the 4.04
My memories of my time with this game have disappeared

>>162251652
Actually i think so, pretty sure it's the only game file my anti-virus picked up

Conquest of Elysium 4 is on sale.

Is it worth a buy if I want a break from the big stuff?

>>162252268
CoE4 is shit.

>>162252268
It may entertain yourself for some time, but some leaders literally unplayable on the chalenging difficulty.
Idea behind this game is great, but execution is lacking on so many levels.

>>162252268
It has a lot of neat ideas, but some of the decisions they made make it not very fun to play.

I found it interesting to try out, but it's not something I've played long-term.

>>162248410
Wait what. Why did he go AI? Is his cap ded or something?

>>162252758
Imagine a ritual spell that let you pretend to be AI.

How much does having unrest in a province reduce your income?

>>162253506
go2guide

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>>162253506
http://www.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

But I'm such a swell guy, it's also in pic attached.

Say that I like dressing up many big guys with magic items more than commanding huge armies, what nation is the best to do this? What magic paths should I take?

>>162253993
Niefelheim, jew giant nations, nations with gud commander summons, elves.

N9 is probably a must, other things are optional.

What in the name of Pankoman is Machaka doing? I just got in a fight with his god and it was casting fire flies.

>>162253993
Agartha is underrated as a Big Guy nation, their marble oracles are excellent SC chassis. Counterable, but less counterable than other common picks.

Troglodyte Lords with black plate

Rate my innovation

>>162255646
domg/10

>>162255646
Sure, why not.

>check
>tzeentch is indeed AI

Tzeentch, wherever you are, you are a bad person and I hope only bad things for you.
You shit.

>>162255646
Initial testing suggests that, while innovative, there is a reason why it is innovative, in that it is completely shit and everyone else knows this.

High prot, but their defense skill is utter trash. This means that things with lots of attacks like heavy cav slam into them deal like 20 damage and the trog routs. While they can trample the cavalry, they deal like 2 damage max, if they get hit at all because defense.

>>162241721
In other words playing literally two thirds of the game?
LA is best age faggot

>>162242559
Curse, 9999 horror marks

>>162245040
lel rekt

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Just reminding people that /domg/ plays today and on sunday. We're match #5 on the schedule, playing against /xcg/(XCOM, runners-up last cup) today, and match #6 on sunday playing against /fgg/(fighting games). The first match begins in less than an hour; I'll probably post here again before out match begins. Further information such as the stream link can be found at http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_7

>>162256849

Vanjarl with a black plate

How innovative is this?

>>162261136
I did that. Works fine with reinvigoration items.

>>162248487
Did I cancel another fort?

>>162261136
Not as innovative as cyberdemon assassin.

>>162262331
No. I might not be the sharpest tool in the box but I'm not dumb enough to get caught out like that twice.

>>162253596
>>162253506
Thanks a lot. I must've missed that.

>>162262121

What about

listen

listen guys

guys

guys listen

what about

if we ignore reinvigorate and just survive based on high prot and high def?

>>162262687
How about you try that and we see what happens?

>>162262687
Will work against 6 PD. Not so much against 15PD.

>>162262792

I figured with so high def and prot even if he falls asleep he'll wake up and kill them eventually.

>>162249896
Slots and paths.

>>162257406
Tell me more about horror marking mindless, lifeless SCs as a strategy.

>>162260786
I'm too busy to watch pretend football nowadays, don't even have time for my turns.

Make sure to post the results here and any hot memes brought by the game.

>>162264038
Sometimes I ponder if being a mindless being is the most satisfying and safe way to exist in dominions. You opt out of all the really nasty mindfuck magic and mindblasting while ignoring that whole Horror thing completely.

>>162264038
How does that even relevant, you SP-playing fagtron? The point is to make fucker of heroes come to you and one-shot you eventually.

>>162262624
Fair enough. Good luck in the war.

>>162264218
It's you who is stupid, you MP-only kid. How are you supposed to Horror Mark someone who can't be the target of the said spell?
Play SP a little and learn about the game you are so fast to give advices about.

>>162264217
I think being a peasant in a scales nation must be pretty good

>>162264498
Russian spotted.

>>162264507
And then someone casts Armageddon

>>162264507
What if its a bloodhunting scales nation

>>162264507
Before shit hits the fan and your 29999 compatriots die from armageddon spam.

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>>162264636

>>162263836
def rolls are affected by fatigue is the thing

>>162264636
Have sex as soon as possible

>>162265187
>even basement dwelling autists can get laid in a bloodhunting nation as chicks desperately try to check their V card

>>162265415
Why wouldn't they just sleep with the alpha male instead?

>>162264970

As in you don't get a def roll if you are asleep, or you get heavy penelties the more fatigued you are?

>>162264218
Horrormarking doesn't affect mindless units. Consider 6 months of single player as your penance for being retarded.

>>162265415
>Implying there won't be professional virginity-takers paid by fathers to take their daughter's virginity, swimming in pussy. Losing your virginity willingly and unmarried is frowned upon by the society because of Pretender's degree, so he can go bloodhunting. So those professional are essentially paid to rape young girls.

>>162265603
they are the ones sacrificing

>>162265603
There's one guy in every village that is the designated "protect our daughters from our evil overlords" guy

>>162265768
Does he also protect your sons?

>>162265603
They got chased into a basement while fleeing from bloodhunters.
>>162265723
>implying these guys wouldnt be the first to be killed when the patrolling starts

Admin, don't be a faggot, set Abysia AI already he made third stale in a row.
Ys already chewing him.

>>162265880
Ah, that makes sense.

>>162265603
No, because alpha males are largely a product of broscience.

Anyways, they probably have a village pedophile to fuck them as soon as they are born.

>>162265723
Bloodhunting only really picks up steam during the ascension wars, I bet most are in denial about the reality of what's taking place and may not even be aware of where their daughters are being taken or for what purpose.
These are simple commoners after all.

>>162266005
REEE ABYSIA YOU COWARD

>>162266268
I sure hope a history student/teacher would be here to enlighten us about the societies that practiced blood sacrifices. How was everything arranged, specifically? All systems like this I know about had the tendency to evolve into organized smooth systems with compensation or the sacrifices having special ritual status.

>>162266268
But thats wrong, there are sorcerers and shit all over the place and you often get events where dudes donate slaves to you.

where can I get the Better Arena mod?

>>162266703
Desura
:^)

>>162266703
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-jNQgOwI-Q_Z2VSZGpSVlZkX2s/view

>>162266830
Duuuuuuuuuuuuudeeeee

>>162266521
I reckon being chosen for the sacrifice was a symbol of pride and honor.

Of course I doubt it happened in the same quantity that Abysia or the such likes to do, but then again in their case they're taking blood slaves from cities they conquered which didn't practice that particular tradition.

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Lucky_Thirteen

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=PureSkill

>>162266859
Thanks.

>>162266268
The villagers are clearly upset about their daughters being kidnapped, though. Like, it mentions that explicitly every time you bloodhunt.

>>162266949
>>162266521

Blood slave producing sites like the Temple of Storm and Fire probably represent this.

>>162267192
Of course they are.

>>162266432
Anyways I'll get my AI setting guy to do it unless someone wants to sub? :3

>>162267536
Ore alternatively Abysia could DO HIS FUCKING TURN REEEEEEEE

I am bit unsure about what to do with Berytos.

My AW mages with the Brides give me complete elemental magic (though I can't build the elemental staves). But the troops are so uninspiring that summoning seems inevitable, which would mean putting all my eggs in the blood basket. But going blood would mean ignoring all the evocation possibilities of the brides.

>>162267857
You go blood and get dope demon armies and then back them up with buffs and evo.

You can use flaming arrows as a stopgap if you're fighting stuff that's vulnerable to it.

>>162267678
Ask in steamchat.

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Blood magic is WRONG

>>162267983
Is blood 6 a good place to stop? I like Father Illheart but it seems way too high.

>>162268321
No, you want blood 9 eventually. If by stop you mean 'pause,' then blood 3 for se'ir and blood 4 for storm demons / demon knights are your early goals depending on your bless and waste availability and so on.

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>>162268240
Preach it, brother!

>>162265681

Yep. Also the more fatigued a dude is, the greater chance dudes attacking him have of scoring a critical hit, which halves your prot value.

>>162269459
and damage explodes, i.e. if a 6 is rolled, another die gets rolled

>>162269914
Yes, but that's true regardless of a crit.

>>162267857

You got good elephants for expansion, and cheap but good archers, and the right paths to cast wind guide and flame arrows. Use elephants to expand, then recruit many archers. Your frontliners are pretty crap so don't expect anything more than to hold the line for your archers(barely).

Blood is Berry true strength, you can easily summon storm demons, and you can quicky summon Se'ir once you get a blood economy up. I recommend a W9 bless for these guys alone.

>>162268240
I bet you're a vegan too

>>162260786
/mhg/-/fgog/ game is going on now. Next game will be /domg/'s.

DO YOUR TURNS
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>>162274209
NEVER EVER
E
V
E
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E
V
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>>162274293
t. Lukas

>>162274508
It's honestly baffling how long it takes him. It's not like he's doing testing or particularly complicated tactics anything.

>>162274615
He's probably busy making mad dosh and fucking whores on his yacht full of cocaine.

What's better, 1 gem Sceptres of Authority or 6 gem Wands of Wild Fire as items to slap on non-mage commanders to shoot shit at enemies?

>>162275072
That doesn't sound like the hentai and jojo-loving otaku I know.

>>162275072
With how much he extends games, he better be making mad dosh and not work at Burger King.

>>162275181
3 gem Fire Elementals are better assuming F1 mages.

>>162275449
I believe that this lad is trying to turn F gems into combat power for his commanders.

That said, it sounds like he's playing Ulm, in which case you're right because he should be using mages as leaders anyways

>>162275578
>>162275449
but friends

that's not innovative

>>162275651
What happened in Degeneracy anyways?

>>162275651
Neither is letting those items fall into the hands of your enemies.

>>162275723
Lemuria cast Burden of Time with an overcast so high, it hit Marignon IRL and made the game timer go to 48 hour turns.

>>162275739
That's where you're wrong. It IS innovative.

>>162275739
Especially if you happen to have good heavily armored troops with human HP, who are vulnerable to the enemy confiscating your Sceptres.

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Somehow, our football lineup looks eerily similar to our games. Malakal standing all alone in the middle of everyone, in the best condition.

>>162276280
t. Malakal

>>162275723
Lemuria duped me and wrecked my sieging army so I had to run away with my tail between my legs. He keeps trying to convince me to attack agartha while constantly raiding me. While agartha might be snowballing at least he isnt sitting on two extra caps and attacking me right fucking now.

>>162276280
>Malakal
>Alone
This isn't the diplomonster I know and love.

>>162276345
Oh and he cast Burden of Time but thats not really a big deal.

>>162276280
Those toilets won't clean themselves.

>>162276345
>Lemuria gets dogpiled 5v1
>Lemuria winds up sitting on two extra capitals

I N N O V A T I V E

>>162276882
It'd be real impressive if mictlan and jomon actually knew what they were doing. Marigon was almost dead when I joined in, jomon was down to one doomstack and Mictlan wasnt even at war with him.

>>162277125
Or if I knew what I was doing as well to be honest. If someone more experienced was playing Atlantis they would be way more powerful.

>>162276882
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINOVATIVE =)))

=)
;D

=))))))))))

:)

>>162268240
>uses it to defeat Ermor anyways

Is the Strength bonus to damage already accounted for in the 'weapons' tab?

>>162277326
Try building crossbows and stealing his ghosts, you will be unstoppable!

>>162277582
Yes.

>>162277563
Baphomet 1216!

>>162277518
Are you Russian?

>>162277905
I wish

>>162277959
You really don't. Trust me.

I based my guess off the extra ))) since that's a Russian thing.

>>162277656
>implying I dont already have crossbows
Their effectiveness is fairly limited right now though seeing as I am fighting ghosts. Also they are dying of old age.

>>162278031
Russians don't use colons in their smilies, for whatever reason. They look like this)))))

>>162278080
At least your fish live for like 500 years

>>162278183
They do sometimes

>>162278292
True that. Pity they dont turn into shambler versions as they age.

Shamefur dispray.

>>162278626
Thats what I said to your mother last night.

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Well, uh, we're not out of the race yet. Just have to beat /fgg/ or something.

>>162278775
Please make your strategies more innovative, thanks.

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>>162278775
lmao

>>162278319
well, yeah, sometimes. but those eyeless smilies are only used there. no idea why.

Game: MokouIsHot
Turn number 19
Next turn due: 21:57 GMT on Friday December 9th

Loser AI hall of shame:
1. Jomon
2. Caelum

>Abysia Waiting for 2h file
Agartha 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Gath 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Ragha 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Utgard 2h file received

>>162279892
Oh boy I cant wait to kill some more scouts

>>162281067
One of the best parts of playing blood nations, dsu

>>162281141
Wolfherds are surprisingly great, I wish they werent cap only.

>>162281141
>dsu
You actually type out desu now?

>>162281265
Not him, but yes desu

>>162281265
He fail anyhow as it is with using the comma at conjunction with the japanese language.

>>162281265
Not him, but I actually do

I don't know what's wrong with me

How come China is always the last one and never did a double turn yet?

>>162284782
Communism is a flawed system.

>>162279892
You waited until 10 minutes before you staled. You fuck. You actual fuck.

>>162285956
Next time I'll wait until 5 minutes.

>>162286916
Nigga you have 8 provinces, don't push your luck

Game: ComfyArmchairOfDOMG
Turn number 10
Next turn due: 00:05 GMT on Saturday December 10th

Abysia 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
>>>Sceleria Waiting for 2h file
Ulm 2h file received

You have 2 hours. You fuckdragon

>>162278484
Yeah that would be neat and would make BOT a cool endgame spell for Atlantis.

>>162278484
>>162288148
It'd be more appropriate if they turned into stunted shamblers, given that they're being aged unnaturally rather than simply growing.

>>162288369
But atlantians get less stunted as they age. I dont think it makes people grow the wrong way anyway, it just makes them die of old age.

>>162288148
>>162278484
#xpshape maybe?

>>162289097
I wonder what happens to children and babies under BOT.

>>162289584

BoT doesn't boost XP gain, sadly.

Although as a general modding idea, it'd be a neat thing for Atlantis.

>>162290025
They receive a subpar primary school education

>>162290065
This made me laugh way too hard.

>>162289584
>>162290049
It's kind of a shame there's no #ageshape. It'd make sense for a remarkable number of things.

>>162292110
It does. I wish they would add such a thing. It would also really change the dynamics of BoT.

>>162292110
>>162292338
Send an email to shillwinter, maybe it'd be just the sort of thing that tickles their autism.

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Say it with me

>>162293049
WARRIOR SUPERIORITY

>>162293049
>Attacking them while there were no priests present
Saved by the bell, Mari

>>162293049
So early age marveni s just blotting the sun with boars?

ded
ede
ded

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Hey mortal

how are your health faring you cant outrun death

why not join the winning team while you still have your dignity intact

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DIE DIE DIE!!!

>fort will be finished next turn
>build a lab and a temple in there too that turn so i can recruit mages
>assassin from the AI shows up
>it snipes the commander building the fort
>one more turn of no fort
>i'm fairly sure that the assassin is going to camp my other guys

HELP

>>162300449
time to gamble boyo

What is the chance of a forest dome fading when a fire spell hits it?

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>>162298449
skellie plz

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>>162301093


Yeahh 10 virgins for one smart ass i ll take ten

you keep selling them i like the business model

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>>162302714
what now nigga?

How much does each magic scale decrease spell fatigue in battle? How much does drain scales increase fatigue cost?

>>162305169

10% per level.

>>162305169

5%