/twg/ - Total War General

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G O B L I N S

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POST THE STRONGEST GENERAL FROM YOUR CURRENT CAMPAIGN

if you are playing warhammer post the strongest non-LL general

>Carcassonne sits eternally in its castle
>Parravon sits eternally in its castle
>Khazrak ignores everyone to suicide rush the Empire or something
>Your Woodland neighbors have brain-dead garrisons and half stacks so fighting them early is out of the question

What the fuck are you supposed to do as Orion or Durthu even?

I'm convinced the best thing is to disband your starting units like the Eagles or Waywatchers, but apart from I'm stuck

How is everyone starting their orion grand campaign? I'm finding it really hard to get going and make anything happen.

What is objectively the most 'oh shit' unit to see making it's way to your lines at speed.

>>162199940
Early game oathsworn

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>>162175349
Rollan!

>>162199647
>Carcassonne sits eternally in its castle
>Parravon sits eternally in its castle

This is just a problem with modern TW.

>>162184017
gobboz

I FUCKING HATE BEASTMAN LITERALY CANCER!

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>>162184017
BY SIGMAR, NO!

>play as khazrak
>estalians follow me deep into bretonnia
>elves come out of their forest to chase me down
>khazrak gets assassinated by an elf agent, then his replacement also gets assassinated

What the fuck happened to his game?

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>bretonnian dukedom
>dukedom

>>162200768

lol git gud

Day 199
Warhammer is still shit.

>>162199860
Been going well, raze some Orc cities, use the cash to turn King's Glade into a War City

>>162200790
Pretty sure dukedom is a synonym for duchy

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Question from last thread

Okay I keep running out of cash with how expensive these damned elf units are

Any ideas on how I can get some money to ward off the rape hordes for another turn?

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>mfw neet elves are garbage

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>Gobbo archers

>>162200937
what an ugly word

>>162199647
I normally go take over the broken nose and turn them in to money making outposts.
Then take over one of the other wood elf places so I can make more money.
Then I amass a big army and storm some Brettonian castles for amber to expand.

Most of the other factions are too passive to stop me.

Verdict on the Woodsluts?

>>162201072
Good

except the opposite of that word.

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>Want to play
>Have finals so not going to play any videogames
>Should be studying but I'm shitposting instead

>>162201072
Worse than chaos warriors

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>>162200790

>planting shape-shifting forest spirits amongst the court as damsels

Why

For what possible purpose would you do this?

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>>162191906
Boris is unique but not LL

>>162201072
Fun and challenging, good when used right, dismiss the baddy opinions

i have never played any TW games. im not a big fan of RTS, i dislike all tge games my friends like. starcraft, advanced wars, ff tactics.

but i really like warhammer 40k table top.

will this be a waist of money for me?

>>162200437
awwwyis

>>162201127
Let's not say anything extreme here

>>162200943

grapevine chain combined with the wine maker building makes insane dosh. also remember to trade and get the tech for trading with non-WE races.

>>162201356
no

>>162201072
Some good units but most are bad and ineffective.

>>162201113
Do this
# shutdown -s -t 5

>>162201356
Yes. Check out the turn-based 40k games like final liberation instead.

>units in database has an extra column titled "food_cost"
what did they mean by this?

>>162201127

Not nearly as bad

Why would one even waste money on eternal guards or whatever they're called?

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>capture a 4th rate ship
>forget to click add to fleet
>the ship just sinks
JUST, its going to be a while until I can build even a 4th rate

>>162201173
>merchant guild leader

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do you think they'll come out of their castle to repopulate?

>>162201567
not a big turn based game guy either.
video game wise i mostly play world of warcraft and hearthstone. but i fucking love warhammer

>>162201072
If you know how to play the game and aren't a Warhammer babbie, then they're good. If Warhammer is your first game in the series, they're shit.

>>162201680
So you don't actually like the tabletop game then?

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Poor Durthu I feel bad for him

>>162201590
Legacy data from older games.

see: Shogunate government type.

>>162201590

maybe they are gonna add a resource system (food instead of amber) to other factions?

Maybe it's a skaven mechanic where if you don't have enough food for your armies they go into a black hunger frenzy and start eating each other.

>>162201072
Durthu is stronk, and dryads have yet to disappoint me, even though they're weak to armor. I don't use much cavalry since I'm playing as Durthu's faction, but they're fast and trade respectably. Missile units are good. I have yet to use any elf infantry, so I can't comment on them.
Amber isn't horrendous if you play aggressively, and it's possible to take out Norn by turn 6 if they move their army away. There's almost no empire management though, since only Athel Loren provinces can be built up. Low income at first, but it snowballs once you get grape vines and port research done.

>>162201590

Ogres

>>162201785
The guy is old and bitter, and the world would probably be saved if he learned to love again. The guy is a walking tragedy.

>>162201760
i like tabletop games in person, like physical warhammer 40k and pathfinders

>>162201959
what do you think about space marines

>>162201804
but it was not there before anon

>>162202131
like the videogame?? or the army?

orion:
ranged
or
melee?

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the "game_expansion_key" is newly added to the db.

any anons with theories on how the expansion will work?

>>162201005
So you prefer kingy to kingdom?

>>162202262

Ranged

He's your artillery

>>162202332
Please don't bait the speculationfags again.

>>162202262

Melee, his ranged is good enough as is, and he's not fast enough to constantly be utilizing ranged attacks.

Plus you need that extra frontline boost, I stick him right in with 3 units of Shield Eternal Guards to hold the line

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>>162201631
what a nice day to kill some otomemes

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This will be a long campaign..

I refuse to play on anything easier than very hard battles tho

>>162202364
There is a reason that kingdom and duchy are the nouns used.
Because they sound good.

>>162202332
>pay 60 dollars
>this cost is justified because we added skaven lmao
>now you get to play

>>162202470
what mod

>>162202380
hmm, seems interesting

>>162202465
interesting, now conflicted

>>162201639
What happened to Estalia?

What's the point of waywatchers, again?
The waystalker is actually a pretty strong hero, but I don't see the point of waywatchers when their only special thing is the 25% AP damage buff

>>162201760
lmao no moneys

>>162202549
You're wrong though. A dukedom is an actual term. It only sounds ugly because you're not used to it.

>>162201127
This

>have to manual play ever early battle

>>162202756

Waywatchers need a buff

Deepwood Scouts are superior since they can also fire 360 degree

>>162202749
look at the minimap

where can I check the unit roster of the elves?

>Oh no we are getting fucked! Retreat!
>Sir the enemy is routing!
>Eheee! Jk! We are back and we will do this about three more times!

Fucking Joke

>>162201072
Some units are bad, some are good.
The quality of the models and animations is great in my opinion.
I hope they keep the amount and quality for following dlcs but balance them better

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Minicampaign was decent, and the last battle was fun. A bit annoying running everywhere in the end to put out fires while getting enough amber though.

>>162203098
>http://whenc.totalwar.com/#/units/wh_dlc05_wef_wood_elves/
have fun

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Holy fucking moley why do woodelves get so much for razing a settlement? Or is this just some mad luck and skill/tech stacking?

>>162203257
Because razing it means you don't get any amber.

>>162203231
>superior Elven intelligence
rape then genocide all elves

>>162203257
It's to make it tempting I guess, otherwise you'd take amber every time. Chaos and beastmemes can get even more though. Also it obviously depends on the settlement level.

>got warhammer
>read the lore
>time to play
>somehow get the urge to play the older total war games first

I'm getting the feel that if I play warhammer, I won't be able to go back. I'm a big fantasyfag too. I have tried some of the games but only like half a campaign each, I want to properly play them without them feeling like a downgrade.

What do?

>>162203351
>>162203476

But it cost under 9k to re-settle it and build both buildings back. Why would anyone want to not raze shit unless you're cock hungry for amber?

>>162203248
ty dude. any impressions so far?

>>162203257
rofl

>>162203505
In my opinion the games are sufficiently varied in gameplay and setting that if you won't like them after TWW you probably wouldn't like them either way.

>>162203505

Attila mah boi.

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>>162202470
that battle was a triumph and now we are fighting the next one, this army is even more antiquated than the last one, with its clibanarii and heavily armoured swordsmen

>>162203542

Time mostly, time to build up the settlement and waiting for your army to get topped off.

Also you dont wanna do it in case of nearby enemies

So is making a Glade Lord melee any good? Seems to get some sick melee defense/attack if leveled up and geared.

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>>162203820
the enemy organ guns force me to sacrifice some of my clibanarii in a head on charge, they rout the artillerymen, and then run away themself

>>162202640
minor factions revenge

So, is there any way to kill carcassone before they have a stack?

>>162204053
I don't think so. I've gotten them out of their castle once but they avoided my ambush and ran back on the same turn.

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>History Total Wars will NEVER EVER be the mainstay of the series again

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>162204506

>>162204506
why are you trying to start shit faggot

why can't you enjoy both types of games like a normal person

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


WOME

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Tree shits leading a rebellion

>>162199940
>>162200049
>S2
Great Guard

>FOTS
Shogutai

>Rome 2
Thracian nobles

>Attila
Chosen Uar Warriors

>Warhammer
Kholek

>>162204506
>Warhammer Fantasy will NEVER EVER get a good game after Dark Omen

>>162204606
Hezs a retarded frogposter stop feeding him.

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>Praise your Gods, if you have any
>Flee back to your little sylvanian castles
>Their bloodkiss is of no interest to me
>Foolish creatures, what do they know of immortality
>Slip back behind the veil of death
>The dead shall not walk the earth
>I will part their undead heads from their shoulders (This one is pretty lame)
>I hear they can transform into wolves and bats
>Isha protect my soul from the dark prince

That's the eternal guard banter vs Vampire counts

There's more but it started repeating ones I had already heard and I can't be bothered to sit there for so long

fuck I hate hybrids

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>>162199940

>>162175349
Quick /twg/
should I buy wood elves
yes or no?

ps I am the biggest elfaboo of all time

>>162199940
Oathsworn
Gothic memeband or Bejewelled Nobles because Aleman fucking start with two of em
Spet Xyons.

>>162202756
armour piercing

>>162204830

If you love Elves then yes 100%

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>Toddbringer

>>162203758
Hmm but still, I'm sure with each one they have improved, it would be weird and shit if not.

>>162203785
I really want to play that. But also rome 2, shogun 2 and napoleon. Didn't like medieval 2 for some reason and I heard it's better to skip empire and the others are 2old4me.

Fuck it, I'm gonna do this thing properly and play the ones I want in release order. Maybe by the time I'm finished they will have released all of warhammer and hopefully get the rest of it cheaper.

Red duke info yooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6VoLCF_AjA

>>162204980
Means deathbringer in German.

>>162204683

>Rome 2
Thracian nobles

Not Oathsworn, a starting general unit and can fend of an entire stack of tier 1 units by itself.

>>162204830
>I am the biggest elfaboo of all time

clearly not otherwise you would of bought it

>>162204910
White huns are just unfair desu

So wood elves are shit?

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>>162204612
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
The French

>>162204923
done
time to be as elf as possible

Never played any TW. about to buy warhammer. what am i in for?

>>162205149
Yes

>>162202731

I run Orion as melee because I have 12 other ranged units to manage, I don't want another one to worry about. I have him stand in front, throw magic Spears as the enemy advances then eat a charge because Eternal Guard need all the help they can get in that department

shouldn't wood elves get a ballista?

>>162205149
Wood Elf infatry is shit.

>>162205208
streamlined fantasy version of previous games

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>>162204820
>d-defensive testudo

>>162205091
I know, the pronunciation just rustles me
Even heard someone say Toadbringer

>>162205208
DLC and bad design

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inflation much?

>>162205208
A vastly superior experience to that which any prior game in the series offers.

>>162205296
On that account Defensive Testudo by Cornuti is literally Ostrogothic pike phalanx tier, or maybe even better, of disgustingly broken in city battles.

>>162205247
No. The only units missing from the Wood Elf roster are Lords & Heroes. Both High and Dark Elves get bolt throwers, though. You're probably thinking of those.

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Been waiting for elves before i start a fresh campaign.

Redpill me on the dlc released since blood pack.
Which is worth buying?

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>turn 5
>Skarsnik ALREADY ate shit
Jesus christ, lads.

>>162205505
yeah, my mistake. thanks

>>162205541
None of them are worth it. Both minicampaigns are short and boring and the LL DLCs add almost nothing of worth.

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>>162205541
>he doesn't own all the DLC

>>162205541
>Which is worth buying?
King and Warlord. That's it.

>>162205541
None of them are worth their price.

Can any of the non wood elf factions settle in Athel Loren?

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>162205541
> Call of the beastmen
Not unless you are interested in Beastmen. And even then get it on sale. The mini campaign is pretty pointless.

>Grim and Grave

Pretty good if you want to start a empire or VC campaign. If you aren't interested in either of those factions you can skip it.

> Warlord and King

Best DLC so far. Skarsnik and Belegar are fairly different from their main factions. I recommend it.

> Realm of the wood elves

haven't played it enough

>>162205652
>>162205652
What about the extra troop units for factions?

Do i have to buy dlc to use em even on the original leaders?

>>162206026
They'd probably slip a dagger down your urethra.

>>162205869
The quality of the wood elf dlc is pretty good.

Especially since I got it for 13 dollars

What's the game design reason behind every race having tunneling?

>>162206168
how

>>162206241
It's not tunneling, you're using root-ways!

>>162206246
Live in my country

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>Forced to play Ottomans so my campaign doesn't become unplayable due to the Bosporus Strait bug
This is a fresh hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy

>>162206241
so they wont get stomped by Karl Franz

>>162202549

Dukedom is word well used.

>>162206241
They make sense except for Beastmen.


It's really useful for beastmen though.

>>162206359

Huh?

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>>162205541

>Must have
Grim and the Grave + King and the Warlord

You get regiments of renown and new LL's that fit into the factions you've already paid 60 bucks or whatever for in the main game. It's kinda shit putting those things as DLC but CA/Sega need mo shekels fo dem programmers.

Everything else is only worth getting if you want to play as the faction. You still fight against those factions so unless you want to play as a rape goat or treefag then you can skip it.

>>162206580
>>162206241

I'm dissapointed that they're all the same system, elves and Beastmen should be able to go through forests but not mountains, the reverse for Dwarves and Orcs

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I don't think the AI cares about Amber limitations, guys..

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>>162206808
> OUR BREATH IS DEATH

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>>162206650
Ottoman AI does shit like this for some reason and causes the end turns to last forever.

>>162206241
Wood Elves shouldn't have it. They should only have designated paths they can enter/exit from. It shouldn't be a freebie tunnel anywhere ability like they currently have.

It is going to get even more ridiculous once the Skaven show up. Realistically, they need to re-do the underway/beastpaths/world roots entirely.

Have underway be only accessible by dwarfs, greenskins, and skaven. Make the underway only usable under regular ground/mountains.

Have Beast Paths be only accessible by Beastmen. Make the Beast Paths only usable under/within regular ground/forests.

Have World Roots only be accessible by Wood Elves. Make the World Roots designated paths that cant be altered and have exits at very specific points across the map. This would allow the WE to use them to travel, but not give them the ridiculous impunity they currently have.

>>162206808
No shit or else they would get fucked.


Doesn't he get a lot from you because you are allied though? What's his diplomacy.

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>>162206650
In Empire Total War (not sure if it's ETW vanilla or just Darthmod) the Ottomans will split their full stacks into tiny single regiment stacks to cross the Strait of Bosporus and then never rejoins them. It causes their turns to take over ten minutes

>>162207030
No im the guy with 2 settlements getting cucked by durthu
dont ask how

>>162207004
Doesn't that cap their army limit though?

>>162207096
TW games before Rome 2 had no army limits.

>>162200437
ROLLAN

>>162207073
Kek. Is that guy allied with Durthu though?

>>162207096
talex newfag grandi

>>162207276
no he is allied with me

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>>162207096
>ETW
>Army limit

Got out of a MP game where some wood elf fuck kept KITING THE SHIT OUT OF ME WHAT THE FUCK? I couldn't do anything about it. Literally nothing. I hope CA nerfs the fuck out of elves.

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>>162204053
>>162204453
they fell for it, the madmen!

>>162207004
>Darthmeme

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really makes you think

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ahh the sweet corruption of chaos, gibmedat 15% ward save, and I already had an armor of destiny.
Durthu train has no stopping now.

>>162207402

B-but the whole thread is filled with poor people saying they're shit to justify not buying them!

But seriously, of course they're going to kite you, that's what Wood Elves do on the tabletop as well.

>>162207519

camera mods allow you to see their sheaths also.

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>>162207519
Don't

>>162206808

For the 100th time

AI doesn't have faction traits, be it good or bad

>>162207519
Yeah detail in the weirdest places

>>162207519
r34 wen?

>>162207625
The lord skills even buffs the shit out of your wood elf army in the campaign.

Orion is just a glorified Beastman.

>>162207714

does this mean skarsnik can recruit orcs normally as AI?

>>162207501
I found it on imgur you meme loving fuck.

>>162207625
>of course they're going to kite you, that's what Wood Elves do

It shouldn't be allowed.

>>162207519
POO POO
PEE PEE
MY ASSHOLE HAS TEXTURES IN HD

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>launch TWW
>recommended settings
>high
>what the fuck this should be low
>look at the actual settings and everything is high except the texture quality which is the lowest possible

At least for a second I got to believe that my GPU wasn't shit tier

>>162207004
More reasons why the new campaign map will always be shit and band-aid fixes like army limits wont improve it.

>WELF update stuck at 84%
>even after numerous restarts and changing the download server

>>162207004
this shit was the absolute worst

>>162207519
wew neddie

>>162208078

it's unpacking most likely.

>>162206808
I HAVE TO FEND OFF 1-2 ARMIES WITH AT LEAST 4 DRAGONS EACH EVERY TURN
I CANT REPLENISH; SEND HELP

Do you guys generally do some kind of wide V or half-square formation against cav-heavy armies?

>>162208010

You gotta go fast to compete with wood elves, or outrange them.

They have 0 artillery so if you're Dwarves, load up on War Machine death.

Alternatively bring fast of your own, they're all squishy, even gobbo chariot archers can land casualties on them.

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JUST

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fuck me

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>>162208676
Is that Australia?

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>>162208676
time sure moves in mystey ways in athel loren

>>162208507

autoresolve seems to give you pretty good odds pablo, if you can squeeze a half-stack to help you could just auto-resolve all those dragons away.

>>162208676
Don't forget to restart the download when it freezes at 4.8GB.

>>162208328
I'll try ranged next time. Was going for an all melee dwarf army struggling to return home from war, an RP build if you will. Then of course assholes min/max in MP matches.

>>162208507
>Fighting other Welves.
>Not just building the Oak up to T3 and confederating them.
I had -50 or so with Orion, and he still got in the tree house.

>>162208676
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>162208857

>RP in MP

I love doing it myself, but fuck you need to be masochistic to even try it really.

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This wasn't the smartest idea but it did work.

>>162200437

Kemmler a shit

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#justvladthings

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Just finished the minicampaign as Oakheart

It was pretty fun, but also a lot of the time felt like a beta

>>162209037
do you play on normal or something? I always lose unless it's 1:1 or greater odds for me

>dont have DLC for some units
>mods add a reskinned version of that DLC unit
>i get to use it without paying for the DLC
haha

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>>162208832
do I really

>>162209236
No. Sounds like you have a case of git gud.

>>162209334
How does one git gud at total war?

>>162208893
>Getting the tree to T3 lets you confederate elves

Neat, I'll do that then. All the Elves begged me for NAPs and trades. There's a battle after each Tree Upgrade right?

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>>162209037
>>162209236
huebald a SHIT
though I got the ambush on him finally

>>162209382
It's honestly just learning the quirks of the AI and exploiting them.

>>162209037
Nice work anon.
post ur strats

>>162209382
1) figure out AI quirks
2) never be challenged again
The AI is terrible in Warhammer and you can trick the AI into leaving settlements and taking them, then defending from their own settlements to win.

>>162209382
hammer and anvil

>>162209383
I'm playing on Normal/normal so I'm not sure about higher difficulties, but I don't think so. It might spawn a new stack of Beastmen, but it could've just been coincidence. But this is for Grand Campaign, mind. I haven't tried the mini-campaign yet.

>>162209617
First you're gonna want to have Orion stand outside the walls and spam his abilities because your units aren't going to win

>>162209105
VLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

Where can I see the highest level of TW play? Is there a youtube replay channel somewhere?

>>162205541
the skub tin should have "Waaagh!" on it

>>162209980
>skub tin
It's not a tin it's a jar

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>Vampire-chan still best girl
>Vlad still best LL
Neet elves really didn't try at all.

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>eagerly await Wood Elf release so I can play Bretonnia FLC
>there isn't actually a Bretonnia FLC

WHEN

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>>162207519
>inb4 detailed horse anuses mod

>>162209980
>>162210019
It's clearly a plastic tub.

>>162210145
Take that back or I will destroy you

>>162208010
as long as they have ammo, yes, they should be allowed

>>162210145

it's tin you dumb fuck i'll fight you

>>162210067
when it's strategically viable as ordained by their capitalist marketing department

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>wood elves
>under attack from all sides by beastshits and shit-skins
>can't build walls
>can't afford two large armies
WHAT DO I DO

>>162210261
sit back in your oak tree and chill

>>162210171
>>162210215
TUB OF SKUB

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Have you mounted any elfs yet, /twg/?

>WE wall building doesn't add walls

wowweeeee

>>162210367
IT'S A FUCKING JAR YOU CUNT

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Moussilon being purified is a pretty sight

>>162209382
Some mistakes I always see new players make is trying to pull out of a bad melee.

If your dudes are stuck in melee and they don't have a fast mount, they're stuck, let them fight it out, the amount of casualties you take trying to run is simply never worth it in most situations.

Focus instead on making the art of positioning the melee so it's in your favor, whether it's setting up an enemy to be flanked, or positioning a counter against the enemy's unit.

Once you're stuck in it becomes a morale game, get dudes on their flanks, even if it's too dangerous to charge in with that unit, just threatening a flank lowers enemy morale, and gives you something to protect your own flank with

If your general is a wrecking ball, put him where the fighting is thickest to rack up casualties, if your general is a leader, keep him free to run about inspiring your troops wherever he can.

That's all I got for now

>>162210261
Get a 20 stack with dryads as the main line infantry and start fly swatting.

>>162210383
I've mounted some new beards onto my cloak.

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>>162206359
>>162207004
>playing darthmod in the 2016

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>>162210069
>reiten
Bloody krauts at it again

>>162210067
>>162210218
Wasn't it announced for february?

>>162209105
Overcast a Wind of Death on that line and get 4k kills instantly.

How are dlc campaigns for atilla?
Mainly interested in age of charlemagne.

>>162210426

I'm kind of confused by this

I get elfs aren't going to be throwing up triple-lines of concrete barriers but wood and stone should be fine, yeah?

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just realised non of you idiots posted their siege equipment

here

>>162210876
Or strategically planted trees to form a wall.

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I'm amazed Vlad hasn't been nerfed yet

Is it because his best abilities are all campaign-specific so the multiplayer babbys aren't screeching about it?

>>162210872
Noice

>>162210851
AoC is of such consistently high quality that it's effectively a standalone product. My only complaint is that factions have fairly small unit rosters compared to the base game.

>>162211051

He's mediocre in multi so no need to nerf

>>162210954
Expected. Makes sense I guess.

>>162211051
Vlad is in canon one of the single strongest, most entirely badass characters in the entire Warhammer World.

I would be dissapointed if he was anything other than overpowered.

>>162204669

>trees rebelling against the forest

Fucking why?

>>162211051

kinda, also his lack of mount kinda fucks him in MP if he's not managed carefully. No mount = no mass and speed to break out from a tarpit or escape a goonsquad.

>>162211240
Faction of trees that got tired of Elf fucking shits.

>>162211236
Abhorassh could beat the shit out of Vlad and he's in the same faction. Vlad was only the strongest Carstein.

>>162211051
His skills are almost all campaign oriented and he doesn't have access to a mount. He's pretty mediocre as far as MP is concerned.

>>162210954
A FUCKING STUMP!

>>162211240
Madness. And they don't like elfs

>>162211149

Cool, how is the other one?

>>162211348

Yeah and that's why we're not getting any playable Abhorassh

As cool as that would be

anyone who finished the mini-campaign have advice for the least battle? That 95% ward save he has is fucking me over and my infantry don't survive the beastmen hordes

>>162211456
Last Roman is a cuckold simulator.

>>162211456
TLR? It's ok. Two brand new factions plus four copied from the GC on a slightly more compact map. It's basically the normal campaign with a few alterations. Good, but not as good as AoC, and far from mandatory.

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really made me think

>>162211593
this is objectively true, not memeing

>>162211610
>All that melee

Shit nigga what ARE you doing?

>>162211610
really fires my neurons too

>>162211610
>Rome 1.jpg

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>>162211051
>>162211236
>>162211189
>>162211242

Well then isn't this the obvious fix for heroes then?

Have certain heroes that specialize in campaign abilities so that the multiplayer spazzes can pound back red bull and pop rocks and bitch about their combat-specific heroes just for them?

>>162211593
explain

>>162211725
No chance to get cav after getting the research, never been one mostly archers either.

>>162211236
Oh please Aenarion was able to one shot a greater bloodthirster of khorne with enough force to cleave a mountain in two.

>>162211894
One of the campaign events revolves around Belisarius and his wife's son.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonina_(wife_of_Belisarius)

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>>162211894

>>162210954
Hahah oh wow
Would have been a lot better with treemen siege towers and rams

Can Orion's spear attack be used to attack settlement gates?

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>>162212039
>>162212084
I'm glad I bought AoC instead

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>Estalia takes Quenelles, Parravon & Montfort
>The second they conquer Quenelles four armies of woodelves appear from the forest
>Instantly consume Montfort & Quenelles
>Siege 2 stacks at Parravon
>Fourth Estalian army arrives from south
>And straight into another Elven ambush

god I love welfs

>>162212148

I think so, it's like a bolt thrower

anyone else getting that weird droning noise while playing the welfs?

>>162212270
it's just chaos don't worry about it

>>162211240

>Against the forest

Elves aren't the forest

Elves ruined the forest

Elves a shit

The pact was a mistake

t. Durthu

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When I play foot elves I can still see projectile trails. Is this a bug?

>>162212332
Based angry tree is the only good thing about this dlc. Well, that and elf genocide.

>>162212469
I think it's just trails on because they're all set to trails on. Just turn trails off. Trails.

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>Pretty far along in the Mini-campaign
>Wonder I haven't seen the orcs all game despite them ostensibly being right next door
>They have 4 settlements according to the diplomacy menu, they be using them for something
>Finally decide to swing over there
>This is what I'm met with

I don't know what I was expecting

The army that was defending the settlement was a Night Goblin Warboss, 4 Goblin agents and 1 units of Big Uns

>>162210797
No kidding? I feel like I should have bee lined that in the skill tree now

Man

Wood elves suck

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So since we're obviously getting more heroes in the coming months, here's the obvious question:

What heroes do you want to see for each faction and what do you want their abilities to be?

>>162211982

Yes, and the first generation Slann can move continents with magic.

But all that OP shit is dead (mostly), leaving Vlad near the top of the pyramid in terms of power.

>>162212625

>not using a better AI recruitment mod

you brought this upon yourself, you KNEW the AI was shit.

Guys, how could you make an army entirely of heroes work?

I want to just turtle down with a faction and send my band of legendary heroes on daring adventures around the world.

>>162212789
Mods don't just magically update themselves, you know.

>>162212693

They're fine, become proficient with their strengths. I did horribly in my first battle too, now I'm winning lopsided battles with clever wood elf trickery

>>162212874

>the 2016th year of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ of Bethlehem

>not creating your own mods


weeeeeeeew lad

I hate missile cav/flyers.

>>162212942
It just doesn't feel like they have any reliable units

Guess I need to abuse fire on the move more, but it's so much work hard microing 20 units at once

Feels like I'm laddering in starcraft again

>>162212697

I want Josef Bugman and his Rangers

Special ability: Bugman's Brew - gives massive temporary buffs in exchange for losing control of the unit until the effect has ended

>>162212270
that sounds is the stones in the map

>>162211610

>all that infantry

Might just aswell play dwarfs
Atleast their infantry isn't meat wall tier

Welf infantry is for holding down shit for your archers to shoot, they do jackshit and im surprised you are even winning battles, probably playing on normal?

>>162212697
I'm still seriously disappointed by the exclusion of Black Orc Bosses and regular Orc Bosses as heroes.

Pretty sure every generic Greenskins lord or hero unit has a hero or lord-level equivalent

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>his army isn't 25% cav

>>162213069
bugmans rangers are already in the game

>>162213061

If they can fire 360, stick them in skirmish mode, it should take some of the burden off you as they'll more or less watch after themselves once they get in range of something.

Other than that it really is a micro heavy army

>>162213234

Yeah but they're shit

I want actual Bugman's rangers led by ACTUAL BUGMAN

>>162212697

fuck heroes, I just want my Wizard-lords for the Empire.

>>162211610
don't hear these faggots, you are a true neet who don't need no archers to be empowered.

>>162202934
Why did you raze Estalia?

>>162213381

Yea Man, we can use that forest movement buff to rush in and die even faster.

>>162211610

>not having 4 units of eternal guard and the rest of the stack full of archers

baka

>>162213341

what would be the point of wizard-lords in the game?

The differences for higher level wizards don't really translate well into the game from the tabletop.

Wood Elves campaign is shit. This is more anti-fun than Chaos or Skarsnik.

This campaign really highlights the glaring problems with the AI and game mechanics in general.

>>162213341

>wanting Wizard-Lords in a game where magic is nearly useless

Really?

>Orcs eat humans

Is this canon?

>>162212731
Teclis, Tyrion, Mazamundi, Kroq-Gar, Kroak kind of, Settra, Nagash, Orion, Malakith are all still alive and could easily slap Vlad's shit sideways. Vlad lost to a damn human for goodness sake.

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Can Wood elves confederate? Being separate in the forest is kind of pissing me off 2bh

>>162213531
Orcs eat everything

>>162212791
You vassalize someone who can take each type of territory, and only fight proxy wars. You can do it in pretty much any TW game once you have a solid economic base under control.

>>162213545
Tier 3 Oak.

>>162213428
Estalia's still alive and untouched. Maybe the map was altered to something else?

>>162213518

>magic is fucked right now
>lets never fix it by adding more powerful lord level wizards


I mean eventually they're going to have to do something to fix magic once high-elves and lizardmen join the fray, why not start there?

>>162213531

Humans, elfs, dorfs, other orcs

If they can eat it, they do

>DLC sucks ass
>has very positive reviews on steam

Is this the power of waifus?

Wood Elfs are a MELEE faction.

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>>162213814

It happens every release.

Check back after a week once everyone has finished fapping

>>162213814

elaborate sucks ass

>>162212697

Grand Theogonist Wilheim III

Yeah I know he's dead but I want to see him show up in vampire land and have Vlad and Mannfred shit their pantaloons

Wew lads welves are fucking hard

>>162201959
I'm a poorfag so I play 40k on the VASSAL engine. Works for me.

Why are the Iceni the best?

>>162210452
Why the FUCK is Schwatzhafen all the fucking way over in Bretonnia?

>>162213753

Would absolutely love to see that, my dude, but so long as the multiplayer kiddies get their way magic is borked for the forseeable future

Any time an offensive spell is in any way useful their screaming can be heard for weeks