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>Latest Patch Notes:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=754
>Latest Q&A
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=733
>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam(Nexon)
TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager
>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599
>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt
>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)
>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Cats)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)
Ohayou (Beethoven)
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Let it die IDIOT
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>>162026459
:^)
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Dead Game Edition
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For Lolipan!
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>>162027443
fuck swaaz
kill agnibitch
marry kora
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>>162027841
i forgot:
3 boys at bottom fuck eachother, so nvm them
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>>162028028
Uh, no. There's no gay stuff in ToS.
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>>162028883
Uhmm...
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best alt chara go
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>>162027443
fuck all the boys, kill all the girls
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>>162029153
necro
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>>162029174
is that demon bottom left
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>>162029293Simony
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>>162029293
>priest
>cute
>cancer in pvp
seems about right
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>>162029583
Vomit hair > rest of the dyes
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New staff to bully
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/users/STAFF_Yuri
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>>162029967
>Yuri
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>>162029967
>comments on (mostly) fag boy drawings
more like STAFF_YAOI
FFS IMC
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>>162029967
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is this the right custom hair if i want to look like a whore?
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>>162029967
Y-yuri? L-like... girl on girl lovemaking?
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>>162030463
it's the right custom hair if you want to look like a retard
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>>162030656
which is the best then
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>>162030787
whisper mergen
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>>162027443
Now imagine how those qts are doing in r8
>peltasta
by the looks of her and that thin belly she probably went barb 3 fencer 3, not a true tanking role
>pyromancer
confident too much on her ability she kept the pyromancer and went pyro 3 wiz 3, seeking more power she followed ancient dark arts (warlock) in search of something that could make her even more powerful, (agni)
>archer
swift and clever, unlike the others, she was beign well taught and followed rank 2 on her first class. clever and sneaky, she went that scout musketeer 2, living the mercenary life doing quick assassinations jobs for the crown
>priest and scout
gay coupled, they died from aids
>linker
smart faggot went the linker 2 chrono 3 patch, he's the girls dream boyfriend, currently hitting the fencer but doing some "quick runs" with the archer from time to time. pass do wonders to your "reload" time
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>>162029967
>>162030639
>>162030448
>>162030249
>>162030193
Reminder that Yuri is a MAN's name.
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IMC FIXED TOWERS LMAO
RIP DIAMOND
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GvG towers are fixed!
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>>162031821
What happened
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>>162031931
You can destroy them again
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>>162031656
russian = male
jp = female
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>>162032092
No one involved with this game is Japanese, buddy.
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>>162032303
>>162032092
can't yuri be a female korean name
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>>162032929
gross
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>>162031656
Maybe in Russia, faggot. Don't go flaunting your gayness outside Yuri, you'll get arrested and put in the death camps.
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>>162032929
don't you ever post this disgusting shit on my japanese anime discussion board again
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>>162032929
post more!
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>>162033672
>Be in Russia
>Get sent to a death camp
>Everything's exactly the same
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>>162033375
>>162033921
If it wasn't for SNSD, Korea wouldn't be where it is now. Pay some FUCKING respect you weebs.
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>>162034089
>Be in Russia
>Get sent to a death camp
>Everything's better then before
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>>162034121
>Korea wouldn't be where it is now.
Completely irrelevant to the world at large except being that place that makes MMOs, plays Starcraft, and provides cheap, but shitty labor?
They were better off during the martial arts movie fad.
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Not sure if meme
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>>162030463
why that hairstyle makes you look like whore?
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>>162036097
because is the same hairstyle that your mom uses
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>>162036097
because it's the same hairstyle that mergen uses
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>>162036097
because it's the same hairstyle koenig uses
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>>162032929
>even with all that plastic surgery they still look average and gooky
They don't even have a body worth fucking. Truly the worst genetics of the world.
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>>162036710
>Not wanting to fuck a qt gook.
You gayyyyy
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>>162036303
>mergen
>whore
what
isn't she a pure girl with cute feet?
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>>162036370
koenig uses the long straight hair though, you stupid fuck. how the fuck do you not know this piece of vital in game information? do you even play the game?
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>>162036958
>that
>cute
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>>162037875
You should play the game instead. Koenig uses the Natural Wave hairstyle on his Monk now too.
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>>162038323
I'm about to fucking SNAP. How DARE Koenig copy MY hairstyle. That stupid bitch is going to get it next time I see her.
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Where are m'ladies at?
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>>162039521
Cute hat, did they add a pirate hat yet?
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>>162039521
>that rapier
you ain't touching any pussy with this
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by choosing this class, the game will become hard, right? I like this
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>>162039521
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>>162039903
It means you'll get your party members really hard!
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>>162039903
no
>>162039643
no
>>162039716
well, ofc he wants ladybois
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>>162039903
>4 out of 6 of your skills are cancelled when the targets move more than 10 feet from each other
>another one is useless if the targets have already moved more than 10 feet from each other
>another one does basically what moving more than 10 feet from each other does
Aye, unless you're playing PvE baby mode it's pretty hard.
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>>162040287
>>162039903
>its literally a 2 skill class
0/10 hard
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>>162040287
but dude, joint penalty looks amazing
chains everything, then you tie it with hangman, followed by anything!
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>>162040858
Yeah, it's good in PvE, in GvG people just spread out, and in TBL people die instantly to it because you fucking can't spread out because the area is so tiny.
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>>162034314
Don't forget the setting for most movies involving cults now
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>>162040907
hm, it also seems that I can break another linker's link
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how may hits micro dimension and ultimate dimension does? base damage is huge
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>>162041072
1, 4
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>>162040967
I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. I stopped watching movies back in ~2006 along with watching TV.
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>>162041072
>base damage is huge
is still crap dmg, see >>162041156
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>>162041156
>>162041380
so, micro is basically a luxury earthquake that multiply shit
why only lv 1? will they even fix this? in case I double a icewall, will it stack so I can use that one to pressure more tiles? assuming they fix it to be at leas lv 5 with sk lv 5
the other that do 4 hits has a loooooow base damage, but enlarge some aoes it seems. but that's it? no extra damage to that aoe like firepillar?
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>>162041303
Korea has been ruled by some crazy cult the past couple a years. It recently came out and their whole gov is up in flames. Currently korea has literal linch mobs looking for anyone associated with that cult. But any there's like 4 movies coming out next year about the subject. Ones a horror movie, ones a documentary, and no idea about the other two.
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>>162041663
Time for Best Korea to save them with a rain of purging fire?
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>>162041815
No one wants to get involved in that mess right now. That's why besides Korean news sites most people are keeping out of it.
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>>162041595
they are both only worth it for the attribute.
and enlarge is total useless crap.
shit class except MissileHole
cloned icewall pieces are next to original wall pieces. a 2nd icetree isnt bad, even if low duration
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>>162041939
Is this something actually happening or something that only shows up in underground news sites that /x/ is privy to? If I gootle it, it won't come up with some site like "undocumentedreality.org/truths/korean_cult_exposed" will it?
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Someone actually had troubles with this quest. I could understand if the circles had different symbols on them or you were somehow expected to guess them or if you had to do three in some specific order, but it is literally
>read the quest
>read the circles
but someone still had problems with it
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>tfw Kim was part of the cult this entire time
It makes too much sense
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>>162042108
It's something actually happening. Their president admited it on national TV there was outrage and riots. Then she came back and claimed she wasn't gonna step down which caused more riots. Political prisoners were released. It's something you would expect /x/ to make up but it's actually happening.
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>>162042327
Doubt it the cult was like 3x scientology but at 10x the cost
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>>162042014
hm. cloned ice wall can be used to ice blast!
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>>162042283
>expecting me to pay even the slightest amount of attention
>in a game with mindless questing for hundreds of levels
>in a game where if a quest has actual mechanics you can pretty much assume it doesn't work
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>>162042283
That one was a little annoying. And these quiz quests in these dungeonswith only Korean text :^)
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>>162031656
In Soviet Russia, Yuri is a man's name.
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ready for solmiki!
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>>162043284
>Int
No you aren't stupid girl.
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>>162043284
c u there senpai
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>>162043284
>build
No you aren't stupid girl.
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>>162043242
In Japan, yuri girl's love.
In Soviet Russia, girls love Yuri.
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>>162043284
Why are you posting your PvP cheese build and pretending it'll be useful anywhere but the broken shitheap that is ToS PvP?
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>>162043973
>int
>no sage
not even top 25 material
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2XusHgOjQ8
top this literal snowflake
shit, looks so fun
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hey guys I'm here for my solmiki interview
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>>162044778
You better be full con or ELSE!
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>>162044778Playing Wugushi is suffering until we get the poison stacking patch.
Me too!
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Sw3PeltCorFencer3
HighBarb3Fencer3
or
High3BarbFencer3
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>>162045185
s3 hop 1 corsair 3 fencer
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>>162045185
Barb is still getting buffed while Highlander has been pretty much abandoned. I'd go with Barb.
Sword3 Pelt Cor for PvP though.
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>>162045028
>sapper 1 wugu 3
>not sapper 2 wugu 2
???
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>>162044447
I wish flare would interact more with the fire kit
>>162045185
First, great choice if you like to pvp
Second, if you like barb';s kit, go for it. I prefer pelt instead of hl but no big deal
Third, desu hl2ba2 >hl3ba
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>>162045668
That's not me, it's some retard that was overwriting my poisons in my mission this morning. I'm Archer2 Ranger Wugu3 going Musket2.
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post cute boys from your guild!!
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>>162046889
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anyone else fucking HATE mergen (the class)?
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What am I in for if I try playing ToS at this stage of the server? How empty and horrifyingly themepark/railroady is it now?
tl;dr I want to take it easy
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>>162047246
alive again thanks to perma 2x exp in dungeons and missions and the event
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>>162046889
Stop posting heresy right this instant!
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>>162047902
Lalacow is cutest boy in cnl
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>>162046889
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>>162046889
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Go to sleep /tosg/, it's late!
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>>162049631
Can I just kill myself instead?
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ded
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>>162052239
Like always, what do you expected gay man?
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>>162047246
Not bad at all if you make friends easily
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>>162052239
Well it's dead hours along with the fact wu tang clan ain't nothing to fuck with.
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Don't die yet
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>>162054741
Why not? Everyone's asleep
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>>162049631
i want to be her
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never forget
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>>162055318
I want to be in her
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>>162056416
>>162055318
me too
preferably both at the same time
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Dungeon instaclear scrolls don't work on instances above 190, right?
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>>162057136
Check dungeon stars at /indun
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is ability damage scaling fixed yet
also, is bokor not complete trash yet
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>>162058519
no
no
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>rolled a Female Wizard Ceremonial Costume
How much can I goy this out for?
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>>162059958
did the gm do it
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>>162059958
Durian best shitposter
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I got a question with Collar Bomb
how does the set up count work?
Does that mean, level 1 = 1 explosion?
It would imply that level 10= 10 explosions? that would mean its 8k damage then?
would this mean that it would explode 10 times even if theres only two enemies? or would this mean that it would only explode 10 times if theres 10 enemies on the horde?
also Multishot vs Spike shooter?
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>>162059958
Did he do it?
He can't wear the gm costume if he's male.
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are there really people out there that play swordie with keyboard and mouse?
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>>162063130
yes and why?
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When will i be free?
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>>162063510
well.. how do they move while casting skills like rush and earth wave?
feels like you'd need a third hand. and what about auto attacking?
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where can I find meta builds?
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>>162063776
a combination of google, tos forums, here andtrial and error
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>>162063775
You can run around via clicking while you press your skill buttons, not very comfy to play but hey each to their own.
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>>162063775
I don't have any difficulties using my left hand for all my skills. I use my right hand exclusively for running
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>>162063775
>she doesn't have a third hand
Get a load of this fag.
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Literally everyfuckingthing is broken.
Even the lodge. When you go to lodge on a character which isn't in Lodge 1, characters get completely fucked and you can't quickly lodge-out/lodge-in out of instances.
How do they do it?
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havent played in a long time. so my character is lost in a high level map and have no idea how to get back to town.
what do i do?
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>>162063776
Meta changes every 2-3 patches anon, just make something you like that's not completely retarded and it'll work out.
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>>162064776
Push n to map and then make a path
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>>162064809
but im too lazy to create my own build. I just want to steam roll PvE
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>>162065073
Play Fletcher, they haven't been nerfed since they got buffed and they're okay in R8.
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>>162065073
What class do you like the most?
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>>162065160
well the highest ive got is a 75 cleric (cleric 2, Diev 1) with stats all into INT.
not sure if he's good to be continued.
I dont mind playing any class as long as i can steamroll PvE
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>>162065293
Diev3Druid3 is the most broken build for solo PvE.
It's flexible enough to do every content, from ET to PvP.
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>>162065416
guess Ill continue this little guy.
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3 TP
THREE
T H R E E
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>>162065876
>14 days
But they only last 1 day? What kind of scam are they trying to pull?
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>>162065876
63 if you do all days
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>>162066042
? the exp tome you get every day lasts one day. Does the other stuff last one day too? You should let them know if so.
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>>162065876
Thanks for reminding me to get my 3TP today, anon! :)
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>that feel of shame when you cast Heal and only 5 tiles appear on the ground
can't wait for rank resets
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>>162066563
Congrats shitter for shitposting at a 10h old post just to create more shitposting.
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>>162062416
>gm costume restricted to womyn
what the fuck
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>>162066132
Look at that screenshot though.
>EXP Tome X4
>14 DAYS!
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>>162066660
?
Don't reply to my posts, kid.
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>>162066726
There's just no male version.
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>>162066759
And is it not? The one you get every day is a bonus one, its not the same as getting it as a present. Is the present one not 14 days?
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>>162066946
It only lasts 1 day.
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>>162066923
>i reported dozens of capybarashitposts back in the day :^)
Well celvant no one actually liked you anyway so it's not surprising that you are a subhuman retard.
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>>162067051
very true post, but im not Cel
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>>162066925
but why
>could've been a fun easter egg
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>>162067017
then you should post that on the forums.
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>>162067172
I don't care enough. Not anymore.
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>advance to the next circle
>feel extreme regret due to indecision prior to this advancement
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>>162067237
Then don't complain about it.
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>>162067285
Just reroll. Christmas event is all about rerolling.
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>>162067370
Hilarious. This shouldn't even be happening.
But I guess it's true that by now, the only people left "playing" this "game" are complete masochists who only care about irrelevant memes like miko, agni and costumes.
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>>162067576
what the hell's a relevant meme then, faggot
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>>162067576
>I can't enjoy the game, so one can
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>>162067861
Looks like 46k people can't too, at least we are in good company.
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>>162067916
Yeah, there are 7 billion people in the world, if they all don't play the same game it must be shit.
Some games can be healthy having low population, but I guess millenials only care about numbers.
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>>162068028
It's not really healthy when the devs have to add dungeon auto clear mechanics because there aren't enough people to actually play the dungeon.
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>>162068198
>the devs have to add dungeon auto clear mechanics because there aren't enough people to actually play the dungeon.
source or its out of your ass
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>>162064606
Just click on one of your lodge tabs mate it sorts it out.
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>>162026114
Is this game good?
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>>162069148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhTSRwGuk3E
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>>162068302
Play the game
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>>162068302
Umm... Play the game. Instance clear vouchers are a thing.
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>>162068028
>Some games can be healthy having low population
That's not the case for tos.
Have you tried queueing for a dungeon recently?
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>>162069487
i know they are, but i'd like to see a source for this >>162068302 being the reason they have been added.
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So have they patched in miko yet?
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>>162069950
Yep! The hunt is on! Go sit next to those item spawn points!
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>>162069950
Yeah I'm waiting for the damn things to spawn
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>>162069852
Alright fine. Dungeons are popular. Tons of people are queueing for dungeons. And there's is no need for instaclear baiting on shout to make people queue.
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Hoping someone can make a recommendation here:
I'm a level 80 archer.
My current build is AR1>RA2
Should I choose AR2 or RA3 for my 4th circle?
The final build I'm aiming for is:
AR2>RA3>SR3
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>>162069686
Why would I need to queue when I can get a party? The queue should be removed.
>>162070308
People always shout for stupid dungeons like 115, 160, and 145 that no one wants to do anyway.
>Dungeons are popular.
They were never popular. People prefer rushing 90, then 130, then 200, and now 290.
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>>162070487
R3, it's spiral arrow vs a more powerful multishot.
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>>162070504
>I can get a party?
and how much shouting does forming that party require?
>stupid dungeons
That's not an excuse, people should be able to do every dungeon in the game.
Also
>145
>bad
It's around double the 130 exp.
>They were never popular.
You clearly never played during or right after early access, where queues took seconds.
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>>162070504
>They were never popular.
Dungeons were popular back when the game had people playing it.
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>>162070910
No they weren't don't lie. furthermore like half the people in this thread would solo them or attempt to anyway.
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>>162070997
>soloing dungeons while leveling
>when queues actually gives you 20% more exp anyway
retard
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>>162071101
yes, this thread is full of autistic retards and always has been.
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>>162070997
Dungeons use to be popular though. On my first character I could queue for almost any dungeon and the queue would take a few seconds.
Man, I even managed to get runs of the 160 and 175 dungeon.
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>>162071321
>Man, I even managed to get runs of the 160 and 175 dungeon.
Same, 217 too.
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hello?
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>>162074763
SHUT UP im still sleeping
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>>162074763
I can see your butt you dirty whore.
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>>162070308
>And there's is no need for instaclear baiting on shout to make people queue.
true
>Alright fine. Dungeons are popular. Tons of people are queueing for dungeons.
not sure if these are true
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>>162074763
sup m'migo?
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Reminder:
do not bully Swaaz. Shes just a poor girl in luv
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fucking casual i fucking hate all of you
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>>162070997
They were, idiot
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>>162067017
retard the exp tome gift that you select lasts 14 days, while the 4x exp tome that you get every day regardless of your selection lasts 1 day
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>>162078023
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>swaaz is now a gay transexual
lol
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why you people so obsessed with Swaaz
are you guys fucking gay?
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Swaaz is cancer
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swaaz
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I LOVE SWAZZ
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swaaz is the spicy meme we need but don't deserve
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I found Julie!
Thanks Swaaz.
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>last 30 days lose
You can't save it right?
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>>162081606
Saved your image. Thanks Lori
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>>162081606
5 to 6 people are quitting every day.
Not long now, soon we'll all be free.
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FAAAAAAAEAEAERRRRRYYYY
BUFFFIESESESIESEISESIFUFUEIOS
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>fast mission que at this time
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>>162082220
Maybe it's just bots.
Every day a bot account and its slave accounts go out of business.
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>>162082230
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Is this game less P2W yet
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>>162082737
no, but it's a dead game.
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>>162082606
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>>162082737
is your ass F2P yet?
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>>162082997
always been baby
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Hm I just found out that Snow Rolling does not work the same way other aoes do.
IE: Flame Ground + Joint Penalty = always 2 hits (one from the ground, another fro mthe linker) it does not mater the number of targets (200% damage). Same for Psychic Pressure, Gravity Pole, Ice Pike and etc.
But Snow fucking Rolling deals 200% on two targets, 300% on three, 400% on 4. Have yet to test a higher number but desu, the damage boost is fucking massive.
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>>162083440
>always
oh nvm, keep that Aids to urself
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>>162084896
>>162085119
Uhmmm
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>>162084896
>>162085119
IT'S HERE
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>>162089183
>flat sorcereress
how the passed the test
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>>162089183
>>162089575
>adult sorc
i cant fap to that
gimme them 12yearold tiddies pls
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fat chest > flat chest
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>>162089575
It's scientifically proven that flat is more aerodynamic for riding your devil.
Fat piggu cow tits make inferior sorceresses.
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>>162090538
Except no.
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Why does my antivirus keep giving me popups telling me the ToS client is a fucking virus? It's so fucking annoying.
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>>162091848
Maybe you should listen to it and uninstall for your own safety
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>>162084896
>>162084896
got any more?
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>>162091017
Enjoy your little boys, pizzalover.
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>>162078023
>>162084896
I hate Swaaz she's a dumb stupid whore who's getting between me and my Daddy!!!
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What's the point of that queue showing the people matched with you if it's just going to send them off with someone else anyway? Fucking game.
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>>162092791
When I have some time off I'll proceed
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>>162099581
And then we have this fucking faggot who won't let it die
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It's sad. We have an ok size /tosg/ community but this game has almost nothing to talk about because gear and class choice are ridiculously straightforward and GvG amounts to essentially 40 players playing meta builds between 3 non-tosg guilds.
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>>162101006
>GvG amounts to essentially 40 players playing meta builds
You mean 40 players total right? Because most of the top 10 guilds barely have 5-8 people who actively do GVG. Pretty sure one of them is literally one guy.
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Post your cute characters!
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how to remove maven's wall?
I didn't even started maven questline, but I did rasvoy lane (ossou memorial just opened for me)
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so is this game good now or
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>>162105032
finish that one too
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>>162105479
>is this game good
no, /tosg/ still plays it.
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This okay for hunter? Should I leave coursing at 3 or 5 and put more into snatching/rush dog?
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>>162107001
Why is the growling portrait so different from everything else?
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>>162107332
Shepard's icon recycled
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>>162107001
its fine on both pvp and pve.
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>>162107448
So shephard coming never?
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>>162107001
PET EQUIPS WHEN
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>>162107001
I'd take a couple points from growling and coursing and max rush dog. The low cooldown and the fact it ignores defense, evasion, block and the 50% pvp reduction is just too good not to max.
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>>162107001
>Rushdog not max
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Any Rodeleros here?
I was looking about Shield Bash
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/10508
And this part confuses me on the description
>Damaged enemies will have their stats temporarily scrambled
What does this even means? That I'll reduce all enemy status, or just some? Or I'll ignore them completely?
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>>162111312
>>162111372
Ok, i'll readjust the skill distribution and max rush dog.
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>>162112179
It shifts them to the right on the stats screen. I forget the exact order of stats but your second stat will become equal to your first stat, and so on until first stat becomes equal to last stat.
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Logged in for the first time in months, where the fuck did all the TP costumes go?
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>>162115189
Into the medal shop.
You get medals by turning in stuff that comes from the gatcha. Which means among other things, you can buy gatcha items off the market and turn them in for medals and get the outfits without spending TP. Or you can just gamble TP away and support the game.
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>get off work
>namedropped beyond belief
wew lads, is someone posting as me again?
>dank swaaz doujin was deleted
feelsbadman
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>>162112179
>>162113185
iirc enemy DEX becomes str, str int, int dex
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tfw dungeon runs
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>>162117575
kek
do the +stat points ones
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Is Wiz3Linker3Warlock2 the best farming build atm?
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>>162117637
>do the +stat points ones
I hadn't even put normal stat points in until like level 138 because of hats and gems.
This character is just to test a r6 class though. When was that again, 175?
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>>162117789
no it's ele 3 over linker3 (give you more magic circles that damage and shit out more spirits via invocation)
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>>162117926
177 usually carding
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This game really needs to up parties to 8 or something. As it is, if you want to make a grinding party, by the time you make it, it's just a party focused around you alone being carried.
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>>162117789
wiz3 chrono2 warlock2 if you want it only for farming
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>>162118028
ele3 is shit for invocation, you're getting 3 circles for a frost cloud, since the rest is absoluteraly useless on farming due to high cooldowns.
Linker would benefit this build a lot more
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>>162121897
anon you're farming dp2 or bees, JP is pointless if you just oneshot mobs with prominence, hail, frostcloud etc.
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Swaaz literally offering money to touch people's balls.
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>seed event is over
>Daddy never planted his seed inside you
can the next event be the cyanide event please?
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>>162123029
He is a fag like always
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>>162123480
It's easy you only have to run uninstall.exe
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>Crimson chainrapes Wildfire.
>Diamon feeds on Asperity.
wew, nice game tostardos...
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>>162123480
I'll dump my seed in your ass, fag.
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>>162124061
>playing the game
retard
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>>162124061
You are the leader we need for the united tosg guild
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>>162123480
Dont worry just go to
>>>/lgtb/
to get your seed planted inside
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>>162124273
FP + Clover will literally, non-ironically, steamroll the shit out of Crimson.
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>>162124720
LETS MAKE IT HAPPEN!
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>>162124720
FP is dead though. I only see like 2-3 people online ever, and one of them doesn't even play the game, just ERPs and AFKs.
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>>162125058
>>162124720
I don't know anyone from FP who even has a meta gbl build that is geared and leveled for r8 pvp shitfest
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>>162125058
Ohayou is pretty dead too. Probably less than 5 active members.
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nevermind its not going to happen you guys suck
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>>162125553
yes its going to happen
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>>162125630
no its not
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>>162125670
yes it is
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>>162125738
prove it
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>>162125738
No it's not.
FP can't only take in Clover. They'll have to take all the traitors and threejane, which will never happen.
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>>162124061
>chainrapes
Isn't that supposed to not happen?
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>>162125867
hehehe
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>>162125854
This, no space for everyone
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>>162126250
fp definitely has 11 slots open
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>>162125854
That's not really the issue.
Cats has no problem with those people.
Can't say the same for the rest of FP, I wouldn't know.
The problem is the lack of slots, the only way it would work is if you remove all but the most active of people.
And a lot of us still like our semi-regulars, it would hurt to kick out all of them between the two guilds.
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>>162126346
The thing is we have some people that barely ever say anything in chat and play the game maybe a few hours between 2 days but they're still members.
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>>162125854
beethoven would never join FP again so only clover + threejane and voxandra would be joining
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>>162126414
>>162126250
Then the casuals can go join cute.
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>>162126527
Cute isn't casual! We're in the top 10 GVG ranking!
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>>162126527
we're laid back, not inactive!
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>>162126646
A single member from Crimson could finger fuck you all with one hand. Shut your mouth.
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>>162126414
>cats takes in threejane
could he not be any more of a cuck?
if this happens it will be the nail in the coffin
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>>162126891
they're good friends tbqh
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>>162126786
>being a cuck for crimson
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my ears are burning!
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>>162127072
Why are you embarrassed
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>>162127148
because all these niggas talking shit like they ain't know me
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>>162127196
shut up cats
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>>162127056
>not respecting your masters
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>>162127415
i'm 3j!
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>>162127464
prove it
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Why is this allowed?
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>>162126414
Of fucking course Cats wouldn't have an problems taking threejane in. Cats would unironically take in Kirito, Jace and the likes if he could.
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>>162127715
yeah it's retarded, some guy sperged out at me when i called "south" east
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>>162046889
there are cuters boys than me, you know.
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>>162127464
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Why is there a giant erect clay dick behind the sorceress in this loading screen?
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>>162128058
What sword is that and are you a rod3nobi?
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>>162128743
It's her bad dragon.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/bug-five-hammer-is-giving-matk-with-red-gem/339028
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/carvings-on-the-pillar-quest-missing-in-galeed-plateau/339207
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/give-us-a-second-server-transfer-wave-already/339257
>I play the same game as these people
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Is ToS dead yet?
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>>162129707
>I play the game
lol loser
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>>162129931
Yeah, servers closed last week. You missed the last meetup.
>>
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/wait-what-where-all-the-costume-go/339195
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/users/STAFF_Yuri/activity
This level of english is not sufficient.
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>>162130697
Oh but it is
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>>162130697
STAFF_John is the best though
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/so-how-is-everything-pt-2/337776/87
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>>162129112
these 12 year olds man.
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>>162131573
I know right
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post that retard build that you KNOW that works and will roll on a tos private server
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2124bbb44.1323354351.153575.1f233a46516575.1f213f4156617185
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>>162132814
Can you guys post builds for the actual game sometimes and not your fucking pvp side shitshow? Also private servers are retarded, they only serve to fragment playerbases and mostly just remove whatever adversity there is in the game.
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>>162132814
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4117778fg.1a243a5561.11354e5a6a75.324155617195.153545.44657185
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>>162133385
are you retarded
never tried psychokino pve? it's literally a watered eleme but with infinite cc
do wonders at r8 if you have matk to bank, of course
>>162133430
oh you
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>>162133430
I will never not be mad about IMC's hardon for statue fuckers. They design a ton of their game from the outset around later classes replacing your old classes so you don't have to minmax older classes but leave this r5 class that is mandatory for both high level PvE and PvP.
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>>162133805
>(Whilst under the effects of [Ein Sof], HP Recovered from [Heal] and [Mass Heal] is doubled. HP Recovery also is doubled for the duration you are under [Ein Sof], however the bonus that is applied to healing skills doesn't stack with the regeneration.)
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/cleric-changelog-cleric-changes-from-ktos-and-itos/282657/63
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>>162128743
>Why ..giant erect clay dick...sorceress
Anon, are you new to TOS?
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dem erect braids tho...
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>>162133950
Honestly doesn't bug me that much since Kabbalist is only problematic in PvP. Diev is 100% necessary for all content, you could swap Paladin's and Diev's positions in the class rank tree and people would still take Diev without changing any of the numbers.
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>Wait all day for changes
>Changes are fucking nothing
>>
Hmm.
Can you dodge Pearls of Anguish? It's a physical attack so...
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>Get armor buffs
>Look at thread while buff is going
>Look back
>Try to buff next piece
>Can't
>Look closer
>Faery gone
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>>162134916
Rush Dog is also physical
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>>162134916
it's pears, not pearls.
And yes you can.
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>>162127853
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>>162135056
Sorry anon! I'll be back soon.
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>>162135209
faery don't leave us, don't let the lewdposters get to you
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>>162135083
>>162135070
Well, since 50k hp on leather is not enough maybe rolling a 1.1k evasion wizard is the solution, assuming I can block malleus with other ways
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>>162135550
Lewdposters or not, I'll still keep my shop up so no worries!
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>>162135867
You know you can kill them from outside their range, right?
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this is why we cant have nice things
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>>162125181
we just need Rance and Ultracorn since they both have Diev3 Oraclesrip
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>>162135951
yes, and other people can do this for you too, but even so, shit always happen like sevenfold. you can remove it with a single small hit, but lel, the inq will just save it for a nasty moment
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>>162136028
>SWAAZ IS IN A GUILD
WHAT GUILD???
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>>162136340
>she doesn't know
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>>162136340
i was offered free TP in a leech guild with only 4 people
more news at 113/3 wins today
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>>162136752
Crimson?
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>>162136028
>the fat and the retard the new love drama now here in bbc
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>>162136028
Is alsh really fat as fuck and obese like everyone says ?
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>>162137843
Alsh is a nerdy-cute white girl from Europe actually
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>>162137843
ofcourse, if everyone says it, it must be true
.t each single game 'community' fags
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>>162137843
>try-hard
>not obese
You tell me sherlock.
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>>162138143
careful there edgelord, tryhard is one of alsheyra's trigger warnings. better respect his safe space or he will type you paragraphs on how he "has bad gears" and "isnt a tryhard"
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>>162137843
I don't know about being fat but he is a BR
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>>162137139
crimson doesnt have 4 people you dunce
like id join a tosg guild thats full of autistic fucks like yourself
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>>162138557
>fat and br
kek
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>>162138580
aren't you an autistic fuck too tho
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>>162138874
totally not
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/macroing-sob-get-rekt/337961/107
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>>162138874
He's autistic but he doesn't fuck
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>>
Is the real end-game truly ERPing?
Was CuteNotLewd right from the very beginning?
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>>162142775
The endgame should be trying out cool class combinations but the ridiculous time investment to leveling and the new transcendence system requiring even more time investment to make your character viable for ET/Solmiki in the first place means that yes ERP is the end game.
However CNL had no reason to believe that pre-trans and r8, therefore they are still a bunch of low-life degenerates.
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>>162142979
>End game should be leveling a new character
>But I don't want to level a new character
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>>162142979
weet weet
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>>162143193
It should be playing with the class system but the leveling process sucks dick because there is one path, the odds of you finding good items while leveling is pretty much zero, and you probably won't have any cool skills until a 20 hour or more investment.
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>>162143319
Also the party size is too small so classes that have niche uses outside the god tier utility of Chrono/Diev etc simply can't be fit into a party meaning unless you somehow find 4 other players willing to run highly specific setups to take advantage of some cool mechanic then any investment you make into a "fun" character or one that fits an archetype you like but isn't viable will be reduced to doing 290 dungeons and early game world bosses for cards only.
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>>162142979
>The endgame should be trying out cool class combinations ...to make your character viable for ET/Solmiki in the first place
but CnLs do that. some of them have like 5-10 chars at high lvls. in R7 too.
AND they are ERP fags
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>>162143319
>It should be playing with the class system
So leveling a new character
>because there is one path,
No, there's 2 due to player demand. Its not IMC's fault players treat it like one. It is however their fault for not ignoring players and leaving Orsha as higher level content.
>the odds of you finding good items while leveling is pretty much zero
Aren't you end game at that point? You should be able to afford anything you didn't find and outfit your character up from the start.
>a 20 hour or more investment.
OH WOE IS ME IT TAKES 20 HOURS TO GET 150 LEVELS!
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>>162143520
>You'll never have a PD C2 friend to spread poisons for your Wugushi
>Even if you do meet one, you don't offer him anything as Wugushi, so he'd have no reason to take you
Archer utility when?
>>
I CLOSE MY EYES
TELL US WHY MUST WE SUFFER
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>>162143638
When you roll hunter c3 falconer c3
>>
AND I'M A KEK A KEK FOR YOU
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>>162143705
>Just a much shittier Cryo Linker
No thanks.
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>>162145013
Thanks b0ss
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whats the closest build to playing as this guy? alo preferred of course.
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>>162145771
pelt3 squire3 murmillo
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>>162127778
t. misinfo
3j is a massive newfag and he memes like an old man, but he's way less abrasive than some of you shitters
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>>162145771
Join Desu.
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>tfw this thread is going to last around 2 more days
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>>162127715
>I am not the only one bothered by this
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>>162134236
We've been over this already. All the goddesses with the weird hair are actually hiding Demon Horns. Demons and Goddesses are the same type of entity.
>>
Is 700 mdef enough for r8 content, pvp/gvg? or is this too low?
theres this guy from Telsiai named YugiMori with 2k mdef, how did he do that?
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>>162147318
>Demons and Goddesses are the same type of entity.
That's right. They're all just semen seamstresses.
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>>162147869
a bit low
to be 'tanky' in R8 you'd need like 1.2k+ or 1.5k+
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>>162147982
is that with or without nuele? how does that card work? 10% of your mdef right? would additional nuele add 10%? or would it only add 10% of your total mdef without the cards counting?
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>>162147318
The demon girls wrapping their hair around their horns is one of the more interesting things I've seen in this game.
Here's a question, why do some of the demons have halo symbols on their backs?
Also where do you meet this? https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/41370
>>162148292
Nueles stack.
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>>162147318
Then the succubus thing was real already, all of these "goddesses" tasted the demon dick for years
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>>162149187
so 3 nueles = 30%? not individual 10%s?
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>>162150082
yes
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We used to tell people "see you tomorrow" or next week when someone said "I am going to quit"
Now we like 40 people left still playing
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Why are we still playing the iToS?
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/cherry-blossom-guide-jtos-or-how-to-resolve-most-of-your-issues-with-itos-cherry-blossom/339035
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>>162151992
not gonna startover in this game.
and its not even better there
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>>162151992
What the point of this?
iToS was very populated at the start too, it's just a matter of time until jToS population drops too.
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>>162152059
>>162152430
It's mostly Fedimememers seeking asylum in jToS, they can start on it but they don't consider barrier language and other shit, also they can get banned from jToS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/cherry-blossom-guide-jtos-or-how-to-resolve-most-of-your-issues-with-itos-cherry-blossom/339035
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>>162152545
>start over
>get banned after a few weeks
these retarded forumniggas
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>>162152743
Well if you know moonrunes and don't mind a possible very high ping you can play fine in jToS,problem is you might get banned by Nexon because you have to use a VPN
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>>162152545
>>162152743
Why would they get banned now?
Unless you should in english 24/7 no one is going out their way to check if you're native or not.
Just say よろしくお願いします when joining a party and no one will bother you.
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>>162152904
You don't need a VPN to play, that would be unplayable.
You need one just to download the Nexon Client.
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whats stat for diev3 druid3?
how fast is leveling if only playing casually?
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>>162153104
>>162152904
>>162153025
guide says you need a JP IP and Nexon does not like VPNs.
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>>162153150
Full INT
>how fast is leveling if only playing casually?
Depends on dungeon/missions queues and grind parties around Truffle/Storage
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>>162152545
>Europeans
>they want to migrate from their dead servers
>they chose to restart in jToS instead of Klaipeda and making iToS less dead for everyone
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>>162153586
IMC is shit compared to Nexon.
That's really something to say.
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>>162153586
>muslim weebs
are the worst
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>>162153150
Excruciatingly slow.
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>>162153698
Everyone know Allah don't accept weeb degenerate in his heaven.
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>>162030875
nigga wut
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>>162153840
ofc not, because they are:
>gay
or
>not male
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>>162147869
Easy to do if you have the funding, I myself can reach 2k+ pretty easily. Nuaeles are a must for this as well as enchanter buffs. Having hats with mdef also help tremendously
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Is the Dragoon good in PvE r8? or whatever uses a spear as weapon.
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>>162125058
>one of them doesn't even play the game, just ERPs and AFKs.
That's Cats right? It's Cats.
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>>162154310
Swordman are all good but Doppel getting nerfed soon
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>>162153898
Its just your average CnL degenerate who is a master at ERP and erotic fanfiction writing. Just ignore it and move on.
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>>162154539
is there a build specifically for a shield + spear user that is OP in PvE?
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>>162156223
footgoon
dont go Murm even though theyre spartans, theyre better off with Shinobi
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>>162156274
what is a footgoon?
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>>162156619
Hoplite3Doppel1Dragoon2
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>>162156274
You just wait until murm2 comes out with a bullshit op as fuck mega dethrone but with shield
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>>162157552
>implyning rank9 will come out
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>>162148292
>>162149187
Nuaeles stack. They also snapshot on map entrance.
MDEF is only really significant if, and only if, you can get over 1.5k. Beyond that point the Rank8 monsters do nearly insignificant damage to you and most player skills will do 1 damage(unless they're whales).
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>>162157617
i bet they'll release a really rushed r9 as the game is pretty much already on its last legs
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>>162160249
I just want to see everyone rage quit when Doppel doesn't have anywhere to go at R9 and Mergen C2 is complete ass.
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>>162160438
nigga DoV is future proof
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>>162160438
>Not being high 3 barb 2 dop 3 or Swd 3, barb 3, dop 3
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>>162160438
It's ok, Warlock3 will be OP so all elememes will come back.
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Haven't played this game since that treasure hunt event. Is everyone still cute?
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>>162163819
even cuter
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>>162046889
ohayou have cuter boys, like that cleric.
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>her only job is to press two fucking buttons, pass and haste
>she can still fuck up
>ice pike!
>ice pike!
every ten chronos only one know how to do their fucking job
what the fuck happen to those players
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>>162166023
They are already 330 and AFK until Rank 9
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Clear vouchers @ 330k
Enchant scrolls @ 260k
Tokens @ 2.5m
Alive game, right?
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>>162166023
Pass is actually bugged and sometimes it just stops affecting people.
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>>162166357
yes but you know when she at least try
I mean
fucking elememe blow fc, dt, the cleric land two heals
she just comes and ice pike twice, run away form people and cast pass lmao wtf
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>>162166349
Token prices aren't going to decrease. People have realised it's just more profitable to buy and sell enchant scrolls.
It's called supply and demand, the demand is always going to be there, but the supply isn't.
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>>162166357
A lot of buffs have been doing this ever since rank 8 was added.
It tends to happen if you try to cancel the animation.
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>>162166349
The funny thing about this game's community is that due to afk bees and 290 rush the value of silver has decreased massively and yet people are surprised it can't buy as much as it used to.
Hell there's a fuckload of items that are outright unbuyable because there's less than 20 even on the server.
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>>162166804
Overpriced atts
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>>162166879
Overpriced atts doesn't have anything to do with items outright not existing in reasonable quantities.
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>>162166804
>it's the 8-7 necros' afking at bees fault the economy of a whole server has gone to shit
>>162166879 has the right idea.
The games requires you to make a ton of silver daily, most people make at least 1.2 millions to reroll Saalus' cube.
>>162167076
> items outright not existing in reasonable quantities
That's no one but IMC fault.
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>>162167076
Less players means less items exist.
Also the game has an absolute fuck load of silver sinks, but very few good ways of making silver. Most people are not sitting on tons of spare cash, and the few that are either RMTed it, or got it through TP.
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that's why I bought everything asap instead of muh attributes, kek
waiting for that sweet 20% discount again
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I have that Ragnarok Online itch. Does this scratch that itch or should I go play RO on a private server instead?
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>>162168098
RO artstyle and reminiscent class system but it doesn't play like RO as far as character progression is concerned outside of the class system. It's worth trying but if you just want to play RO go play RO.
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>>162168098
Besides the way the characters look, no. Go play RO.
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>>162167180
>7-8 necros afking
That's literally half the community retard.
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>>162168098
play tos, if you enjoy it, you'll stay and have fun with our cute characters and interesting class system, will be enough to kill that rag itch both ways: if you like it or if you deslike it: once the game flaws hits you, that mmo freedom desire will take you and you're free from this curse forever
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F
FF
FFAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEERY
FAERY
FAERY BUFFIESSS FOR MEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162169290
I'm gonna stand there one day, waiting to see which one of you FAGGOTS makes these posts.
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>>162169091
Then where's your necro?
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>>162169447
some of just quietly get fondled by faery - it's only that one lewdposter (maybe not even playing the game, who knows)
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Hey guys, is QS3Wugu3(or2)Hakka a legit build?
What's the stat spread?
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>>162160438
I thought dopples already did rage quit
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>>162170230
Most of them rerolled to Fencer.
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>>162170178
>QS3
reroll
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BEST PVP (BROKEN) CLERIC BUILD??
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>>162170178
I hate when I see people with this build lmao
maybe when they fix wugushi? even so, not sure about this combination with qs. a2 seems so much btter for everything. ie or you go a2 wugushi (because all your other skills crits, the evasion is nice and ms 10 is nice) or go a2 qs 3
but that's my perspective
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>>162170348
M-Marbel Grand cross will save QS
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>>162167180
>reroll Saalus cubes
No one does that, it costs 300k. You may as well buy them from the market for 250k.
>>162166349
>>162166490
Items are worth as much as people are willing to pay for them. As long as people are not willing to undercut them, they will still sell at that price. In your ideal world of cheap TP items, there would have to be either a lot of people buying them with TP and trying to turn their TP into silver or people have to have less incentive to want these particular items. Since neither is the case because I assume people would rather just roll gacha cubes you get these kinds of prices. But letting people buy and resell tokens as well as making tokens untradeable while limiting most of the game's functions for people without them is a huge kick in the balls to new players trying to get their first token. As a filthy Warlock Invocation farmer, I know we are still getting new players, its just that they don't tend to stay very long with all the stupid trade restrictions.
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>>162170456
cleric 2
diev 3
oracle
kabba
inquisitor
explained:
you make your retarded allies invulnerable, after invulnerability ends, kabbalist's sevenold turn then into living bombs so enemy retards suicide touching your retards. also, oracle makes everything immune to 90% of the cc and counter spell seals the deal
inquisitor banish wizards from doing anything and their onw damage finish off whatever left of the enemy team
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>>162170475
>>162170348
>>162170457
Hey hey hey, They're going to fix the wugu attrib bug and STR is in due for a buff/rework. This might be, a future-proof build not to mention the obvious synergy of STR-heavy classes and Hakka is a nice r8 top off.
Plus, just put lvl7 gems on your didel or whatevs.
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>>162170457
Also yeah, A2 does make more sense than wugu3 since I don't think wugu3 adds much.
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>>162170610
yeah whatever
try to marry a linker 2/3 to do the r8 content with you or you'll suicide yourself
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>>162170579
Honestly, those restrictions are probably killing the game literally. you even have restrictions making new characters on old accounts
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>>162170858
>>162170579
hell yes
while idling in orsha a few days ago i saw:
>2 new players
>like Lv4x-5x
>one want to give the other a shield he picked up
>cant trade cuz no token
>he tries to put it in market
>the other cant see it in market because 30min to 2h wait for it to show up
was kinda really sad
not like the guy needed that shield, but things like that make new players say "fuck this game, we will download something else"
shit like that would make me change game too, if i would not been here since iCBT2.
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i have an A3>SC3(farming char) coming up on r7, opinions would be nice. afaik typical build end is falc1>merg1 for 2h bow-ness
what are the other ok choices? theres no pain in messing up a farming alt but most of my ingame knowledge is support mage bs
musket2 for burst dps
reiter1>?? for movespeed/clear time
??>hakka idk, i want a hakka but i dont know shit about it
thanks or no thanks
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>>162171268
I thought people could trade without tokens now but it would become untradable unless both players had tokens.
My problem is using the storage. Not even the requirement of needing a token, but the level requirement before you can take out money. Can't even buff or attribute before 2nd circle unless I trade them talt. And for what? Do they just delete bot characters and not bot accounts?
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>>162171885
>I thought people could trade without tokens now
ohh, not sure about that, maybe (i always got token running)
i didnt got there whole convo but it was like
#1 "wait. i put the shield in market."
#1 "now"
#2 "its not there..."
pretty sure that pissed them and they probably dont play anymore
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>>162171624
You should've gone A2R1 so you can top off your SC3 with Rogue1Mergen. But you can still go R1 at R7 and would be fine, but R1Rogue1 is superior.
You can also go for Falcon1/Mergen. Or perhaps SR1 just for the mount and Mergen, so you can pretend to be a mounted horse archer.
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>finally hit musket
>none on the market
o-oh
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>>162171624
Your build works for hacka already. R7 can be almost anything you want honestly, like maybe rogue for the true crit chance from sneak hit
>>162170178
That is bad. Hacka is full of fake multi hits so you want crit, it doesn't mesh well with wugu, and wugu3 is shit if you were going wugu you would do wugu2 with archer2 for more crit. QS3 is shit.
Do Fletcher 3 tbqh
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>>162172706
>finally hit musket
What are you doing Anon
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>>162172819
I don't play this game often.
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Help me lads, I cant put my finger on it but everytime I see or play as a Sapper theres always that weird feeling that this class doesnt belong to this game at all, its like theres something wrong with it at the same time something so right, it gives me comfy feels, the fuck is up with sapper man?how would you fix it
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>>162173272
retard
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>>162172171
>>162172759
thanks yall, personal preferences point towards a mounted build but its good to be certain im not missing out on some stupid skill interaction
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>>162173272
>how would you fix it
bear trap like the boss traps that holds enemies in place.
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>>162125058
Alright I'll post you got me.
Fp is active as shit. I'll post screenshots of 13+ online like there is every night when I get home tonight
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>>162174087
>13 online
>active as shit
Lol. Even then, FP doesn't have 13 online on typical nights
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>>162173272
Just give it RO's Hunter traps instead of the shit it has now.
Maybe keep punji stake and spike shooter since they're fun. The rest can be replaced by snare, shockwave, flasher, sandman, etc.
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>>162175626
>flasher
uhmmmmmm
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>>162174087
>>162175508
Ohayou/Clover has like 9-12 online during peak hours (burgerland evening) now. We used to have 20+ the weeks before and after r8, had so many not everyone could get in gbl
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>>162175931
so what? ohayou isn't tosg.
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>>162176103
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>>162176103
only Crimson is tosg
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>>162175626
It can keep the stuff it has now and gain RO's status causing traps since it doesn't have the falcon inherently.
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>>162175873
I wish, maybe they'd have money for better servers. IMC couldn't properly monetize this game to save this game.
Why are people still QQ and TT_TT over cosmetic items anyway? Isn't that what they wanted?
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>>162176217
crimson is definitely more tosg than ohayou if they didn't absorb clover.
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>>162172759
Ah yes, but Cannon/Musk are also crit-heavy so there is no other option. But then again you could go A1Rogue one at 7-r8 and hope for a good r9.
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>>162176454
Ohayou only has 2 non-/tosg/. Crimson is full of non-/tosg/
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Any cannons here?
where do I put my skill points at?
Cannonade vs Cannon Blast?
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>>162174087
Yeah but I bet all the guilds follow the same "online" distribution.
>6 afk in fedi
>3 in merc post not talking to anyone and multitasking
>2 Dina bee farm
>2 leveling/other tasks
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>>162177278
>only
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>>162177410
Cannon Blast
Cannonade is a 1 point
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>>162178032
Lol Comfy is pretty alive, but disorganized.
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>>162178046
every tosg guild aside from cute has people that aren't tosg in it
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>>162180806
What guild should I join to be around as few tosgs as possible?
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>>162181028
Desu
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>>162181028
SOLDAT
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>>162180806
blatant lie
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>>162181028
Unironically desu
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>Do that one quest again
>Doing good, enemies dying fast
>Monk bitch seems to have way more HP
>Enemies say 'fuck you' in the last 40 seconds and all walk through the barrier and won't even be knocked back by another barrier nor knockback skills
>Gangbang the monk bitch to death
>Happens three times
fuck that.
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>>162180806
Name one in FP
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>>162186042
healmage ^^
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>>162186042
3j :^)
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>>162181389
it's not. as we all know, cnl has (and has had) quite a few people that aren't tosg, ohayou has people that aren't tosg and so does fp. cute is the only guild that is tosg exclusive now that clover is gone
>>162186042
healmage, cats, and a few others werent tosg until after they joined fp, and rances cow was never tosg. azebu is reddit and homeskillet isn't tosg either tbqh
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>this stupid not /tosg/ witchhunt
Fuck you. If you don't want to create one guild for one /tosg/, then you have no right to bitch.
ONE GUILD
ONE /tosg/
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>>162181028
BananaSquad probably. there is one desu anon
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>>162186643
Merge the guilds that are mostly dead lmao
at least you will have opportunity in gvg or something
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>>162187803
as an outsider, merging the guilds seems like a good idea but there's probably reasons why they don't do it.
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>>162188449
Can't speak for every guild but my guild has members that take up space and never interact with anyone but we don't want to be the guild that's elitist and start kicking people that still play to make room for the popular people spread throughout the guilds.
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What do I have to do in Khonot on the unchained quest after I kill the polibus? Nothing happens.
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>got practoniums on 2 different characters
>both characters are disgustingly weak because IMC is retarded
>They'll prob never get buffed because pvp retards will cry and forever useless in pve
Not even the population and some of terrible things made me discouraged to play, but this is just ugh.
Maybe I should just go back toTera....
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>>162186643
Name one FP that isn't tosg and prove it
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>>162188846
yeah maybe you should just
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Did they fix ToS yet or are there any pservers out yet? I havent played since launch.
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>tfw Capyba and other anons just shitted on ToS in another general
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>>162190191
No and no
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>>162190404
Inform me when they do then, I still have hope and am gonna go idle on RO.
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>>162190250
can you really blame them? There's something wrong with a game when afking at bees is preferable to actually playing it
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>>162190478
They will never do.
IMC has dropped ToS, they are a mobbage company now
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>>162190483
>people still think afking at bees is a problem
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Tell me about Squires, /tosg/. Are they just glorified merchants now or do people bring them to parties for any reason?
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>>162190726
where did I say it was a problem? I'm saying the game is so shit it's not worth playing, I'd rather just afk and get silver and play something else
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>>162190834
Useless. Food buffs are even more useless than before.
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>>162190250
Which one?
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>>162191125
It's one of weeb game generals
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>>162190726
It's not the problem, it's one of the symptoms of a problem though.
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>>162195176
We were falling off the board into ob
ivion and you kept us alive
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>>162186262
Oh fuck I found dMN
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>>162191532
MMOG?
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shut the fuck up
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>>162196943
Nnnnnnnnooooooooo fuck off
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>>162196918
/hsg/
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>>162188846
post your two builds
there's literally no pvp character that is weak at r8 pve, except et, but you don't want everyone facerolling solmiki, right? lol
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>>162198541
>there's literally no pvp character that is weak at r8 pve
Isn't that the literal definition of Cannoneer? One shotting people in pvp, and doing shit damage on pve with long cooldowns and animations?
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>>162198541
hunter 3 falc 3
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>>162199913
not really because musketeer at 2x2 (hunter -musket) does it better and both are cucked because of missile hole, another thing is that cannon aoe will just make you hit a fucking pet and die to memefold, while musket can micro kill someone
cannon is overall weak in every aspect and they aren't afraid of buffing it because of pvp. they really did some decent buffs last patch.
cannoneer is not pvp enough to fall into this category
cannon blast
shoot down went from 150% to 250%
siege burst went from 150% to 250%
cannon blast from 300 to 350%
barrage from 100% to 150%
and they fixed the meme kneeling shot too iirc
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>>162200146
this ain't really a pvp build (pvp = hunter 2 you can't just roll a 15k hp cutie that needs dex to hit things without at least scout to defend yourself), when you go to the third rank you're specifically calling for a huge monster CC and hunter 3 does this very well. besides, they give item slots to pets and all pet skills will get a 30% extra damage power based on your pet stats. stack heavy two handed swords on your pets, a few millions on attack stat and well, lad
falcon 3 is literally perfect for pve and is funny on pvp when it works, main concern with falcon 3 is AI problems (hunters too...) , since aiming won't work half of the time, but when it does, the larger hitbox is fucking broken
my main concern on falcon 3 is blistering trash delay (5 seconds) but can be overpowered with the last pet changes if they reduce it
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>>162200458
But those buffs are not great enough to even make cannoneer useful, you're dreaming if they'll be considered good after that.
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>>162201302
]those buffs are huge, but the problem is the game itself
musketeer = single target
cannon = aoe
but then
>linker
linker broken the game since day 1
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>>162202475
fuck off with your unfunny forced memes
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why does imc hate hair slot 2 items?
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>>162202716
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>>162203043
>guild is
>but not all members
The cognitive dissonance makes me hard
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I hope Admiral Katzen approves of my remodelling!
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>>162203365
who are you? sparnee?
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how do i become /tosg/
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>>162204579
whisperSwaaz
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>>162204579
add ppkoverlord on steam
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>>162202865
Huh? Those items are very common. All sorts of ears and stuff. A lot of items you can get in the game are slot 2. It the slot 3 items they hate and are so rare.
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>log for my daily sadness box
>cant find it
>panic
>randomly find practonium in my inventory
today was a nice day
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>>162206289
Yeah, but do you have Cleric Ceremonial Costume (Female)?
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>>162206289
grats lalacow
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>>162206595
too far
>>162207026thanks anon
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>>162207026
I did some grinding with that cow today!
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>reach musketeer
>no muskets on market
Someone go get me this fine American rifle.
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>>162207846
>>162207026
I want to grind lalaco on a wall
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I fucking hate casualshue
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>hunter skills still don't prioritize your target
>will randomly go after a pet that's offscreen rather than the player you're aiming for at two feet from you and your pet
>tfw captcha knows my class
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>>162209460
Hideous fag
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>>162205820
i dont think either gacha has given us a new hs2, while they keep piling on hs1 and 3.
>>
Reminder that Crimson > all you fucking trash
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>>162214243
how much for a crimmy gf
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>>162214243
>crimson a br guild who feels superior
haha yeah sure huehuehue
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let's revive tos lol
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>>162214243
reminder crimson is a brazilian guild
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>>162215205
I mean IMC is paying them $2400-$3000 just to play their game so...
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>>162215523
Pvp tp was a mistake
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>>162216053
It's literally the only thing keeping me on this game.
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Why the fuck do cleric classes cast every fucking thing but aspersion and daino? I don't need your buffs, I need to be invincible.
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>>162216910
>I don't need your buffs
>I want aspersion and daino
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>>162217151
No, I want my pardoner aspersion or I want them to cast daino before giving me monstrance and other shit I don't want.
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Was Swaaz bullied by someone in CNL? I've never seen such an autistic crusade against a group of degenerate ohayouposters since dvine was alive.
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>>162218698
who knows what goes on in swaazy's mind
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>>162218878
Maybe it's a tragic love story?
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>>162218878
>>162218954
Nah, its just pieces of shit piling together
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Swaaz needs to experience love
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>>162220039
in the ass
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I know chaplain is shit but
how we skill it
5/5 magnus
5/5 capella
1 last rites (does it scales only duration or somehting else ike dmg?
4 aspergs?
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>>162218954
it is
it all started when 3j stolen Beetho from her..
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>>162220578
It all started when Swaaz was NTR'd by pic related
Since then he's been going on about the entire guild being a bunch of hackers and criminals.
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>>162220506
magnus and capella are both complete dog shit
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>>162220578
>>162221026
How far can go that autistic shit?
...and is very soon to see this thread very dead
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>>162221026
>its that damn Cows fault
OK FUCK, SHES DONE !
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Remember this every time you see Swaaz.
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>>162221276
>trying to stop AIDS in Africa
Good luck with that one Joethetank you fucking retard
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>>162221026
The other day, this fat cow started hitting on me. I was just minding my own business and she started totally hitting on me.
What's up with that?
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>>162221591
What's "up" with you?
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>>162221689
My bunny ears! I'm pretty proud of them, they're not floppy at all.
Doesn't mean she can just hit on me though.
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>>162221152
what?
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>>162221049
new magnus is nice, a huge firepillar
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>>162221276
then swaaz is not cancer, he is fucking AIDS
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>>162218698
Not bullied, but rather rejected by someone in cnl.
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The War God didn't show
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>>162222338
>Crimshit
no thanks
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>>162222338
I don't get it, is swaaz in that guild now?
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>>162220506
Your build would be the best if you want to use all the skills but I would just go 5/5 all skills and ignore Magnus. You don't have the skill points in priest to justify taking exorcism and the damage on ME is really bad unless you invest a ridiculous amount of silver into the attribute and heavily transcend a weapon, at which point you have to question what you're doing playing Chaplain since it only exists to maintain stone skin and do supplementary damage.
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>>162222857
yes, that's the guild with tp leech
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>>162222338
You can destroy towers now? Did they finally fix it?
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>>162224198
Yep, it's been fixed since maintenance.
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>>162222338
>brcrimson
hue
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>>162222338
>swaazuke
I'm the master of memes now
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>>162222338
I still prefer Atom
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>>162225045
>wait for like 15 minutes
>A tree crystal spawns
>Kill the crystal and the quest finally completed
fug this game
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>try tbl
>game does not load
>the battle that you "missed" lasts more than 15 minutes already
>can't queue again until it ends
help
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mfw healmage confessed that she once posted her tits for cash items on elsword
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>>162227858
i must dig
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>>162227858
Screenshot of chat log, please.
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Cats is the biggest tryhard
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Cats is the biggest retard
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>>162227858
>>162228459
>>162228551
Leave Healmage-Kouhai-Chan alone!
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Cats is the biggest when hard
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>>162227858
what a fucking dumb slut
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>>162227858
I think I remember her from that game, I also think I have some of her pics from my old harddrive
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>>162228827
no that's BRsheyra
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>>162229235
post it
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>>162228827
haha he is a retard the biggest tryhard is fatso huesheyra
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>>162230618
lmao obeseyra the br
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Why did this general start resembling a 5th grade classroom? If we keep devolving like that we'll start calling out people on cooties.
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>>162230818
>cooties
but there's no disgusting boys here
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>>162227858
What a surprise coming from her
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>>162231089
sup
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>>162229019
Healmage-slut-for-mony-chan
A poser and now she did that on a shitty mmo, she isnt the one that offers her service on a private ragnarok online server?
if she want money anyway she can do some streams showing her boobs for easy $$$
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Is crit attack useless compared to physical attack?
On hats and on gems? While the Yellow gem has higher damage, the red one will gave a base damage that CAN crit, wouldn't that be better overall?
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>>162231483
crit att is only really good if you went a full crit build, like dex doppels/fencers or rogues. Else you go red.
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>>162229235
post it
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>>162230818
Thats what you get when we have a general managing to just survive each day
Everyday the thread risk the 404 multiple times
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>>162231483
Crit Attack bypassss all defenses so it's added true damage to crits, but you need to crit to get it so it's only good for high dex builds
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>Thread is 2 days old now
ded game
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>>162233287
nice try doomposterkun, but no
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>>162233287
a-at least the OP image is cute
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>>162231387
Are there two separate versions of this costume or does it change depending on gender?
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>>162231767
>>162232463
I see.
Does this applies to skills with % mods too? For example a skill that has 200% atk + basedmg, will the crit damage be amplified by these 200% too, or it will be just (base+ atk200% * 1.5) + crit damage from crit?
If its just flat damage with no ways to amplify doesn't seem worth I think, but if you can use modifiers on it, seems pretty good.
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>>162233598
2 separate versions, one for male and another for female. The only unisex outfit in game is the cockatrice one.
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>>162235417
>swordies being cockhungry sluts
No surprise there
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The game is already dead, please don't let the thread die too.
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Alive game!
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>>162237546
If impale her if you know what I mean
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>>162237790
No?
Can you explain please?
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>>162237546
>exposing her womb
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>>162238725
I'll expose your womb
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGLQLQPZujs
>wiz3,fir3,sor,nec
sorc feels like a weird choice since the cat buff aoe only helps his flesh right?
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>>162240251
Cat buffs apply to your whole party and flesh pillar doubles ranged damage on affected targets, so that's +5 AoE ratio and x2 damage for the SR. It's a support build that also possesses passable damage via quickcast+agni.
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>>162240251
>>162240482
Wow, good to see non-meta builds in the spotlight. Awesome
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>>162240482
>Cat buffs apply to your whole party..+5 AoE ratio
ah I'm dumb, didn't think sr would need it
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>>162240570
Honestly I think our community doesn't understand the game very well, that party makes use of a lot of very strong single dip ranks (Paladin, Diev, Sorc, Necro) That our community does not appreciate at all, they use reversi scrolls to deal with the blue slimes casting raise, and they all have hour long temp buffs on them.
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>>162238184
W-when you're older
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>>162232110
The general is like that because it's not worth reading.
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Which R8 classes are in desperate need of a buff?
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>>162246625
Enchanter, Hackapell, Lancer
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>>162247060
Are hakkapelle and lancer really that bad?
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ohayou!
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>>162247940
SHUT UP im sleeping still
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I dont get TBL bros
Why arent Clerics and Kinos nerfed here?
Whats the logic of banning dispellers while they get 100% of their CC's duration?
Safety Zone should have a 20k damage limit in TBL
Raise should only last 2, 3 seconds max
people should be immuned to freezing for a second once frozen
Pain Barrier should fucking nagate restrain
jesus christ
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>>162248183
I wish there were different maps other than the small ass arena where kino3s can just teleport straight to you and MF, then raise (I know I can just stand behind my group and counterspell, but still). Or a map that has a different objective so other strats aside from zerging the enemy with ausrine and prophecy and r7 aren't always favored.
On the one hand, I had a 2v1 match the other week - me as cancer cleric vs kino3 and cannoneer. Setting up ausrine first thing was useless since I just get cc'd to death, so I tried silence tree as an opener to prevent the kino from continuing his combo. Shit like that was fun
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>>162249061
The map is terribly inappropriate for 5x5, specially when you throw in Rushing Cataphracts into the mix. It's alright for 2x2 though.
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>>162249061
>>162249206
is the templar payload gvg a meme or was it true?
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>>162247156
Hackapell isn't terrible. It's just a damage dealing class that is inferior to other options that are available to you at the time. Why take the class that is inferior when there are better options?
Lancer though, I can't remember seeing a single Lancer ever.
Everyone agrees Enchanter is the worst rank 8 class in the game though. There is no arguing that.
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>>162249206
I want to agree, but the more I think about the short distance, the more I think that it's kind of ok? lel
Rushing the enemy as cata before they have time to buff should also still be a valid strat - I've had a 5v5 where two clueless niggers were too slow to finish the ausrine buff and died to rush, and they were like 'wtf?' That was hilarious and sad. Enemy team ended up winning that fight
I guess what I'm saying is, I wish there was more variety to the maps/objectives that favor diversity of strategies
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>>162249441
>templar payload
is this the templar mass teleport? idunno, I've never seen it used in gvg
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>>162249494
I've seen lancers like twice. The haven't made any impression on me (because at R8 everything is just flashing lights.)
>>162249494
>>162247060
Enchanter will probably get better with higher circles and personally I think (like 2 of) their buffs are amazing.
>>162246625
I think sage is the worst between them. It has missile hole but its other stuff is eh. Unless they add some amazing skills to it at R9, it's just another failed idea. It's probably just going to become a pvp meme class though.
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>>162247156
>>162249494
I have Lancer. Quintain lv5 30% attribute deals 60k to r8 mob that have been prepped with spear lunge and crush. You get 2 hits so 120k damage. Joust lv5 deals 10k per hit with 0% attribute. It's maybe 5 hits to a boss and normal mob usually hits max 2 times.
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>>162249706
no its a new gvg where both templars will walk from point a to point b on a fixed movement speed and will have unlimited HP, the templar cant be damaged but can be cc'd, first templar to reach Point b wins
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>>162249494
>I can't remember seeing a single Lancer ever.
??? There are a bunch of lancers on Klaipeda. I'm surprised you've seen hackas if you haven't seen lancer
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>>162249918
oh wtf I want shit like this to happen, that seems fun
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>>162249868
Enchanter is honestly bad as a class.
They have two abilities that don't actually do anything (one is so useless IMC had to add "this ability is really useful, honestly" to it's description).
Scrolls are pretty bad due to a mixture of their cost and limited selection of spells.
Enchant Lightning and Armor are their only useful abilities.
Enchant Lighting isn't amazing though, it's 500 damage per hit in a time where everything has 500k hp. It could really use some kind of attribute or something to make it more useful because there are just better buffs at lower ranks.
Armor enchanting is useful but the effects are mostly percentage based and most people wont get much benefit out of them but they'll still probably use them because of how cheap it is anyway (which also makes it pretty bad as a vending skill, no profit to be made).
The only attribute Enchanters get lets them make one item that basically does as much damage as a normal attack (at the cost of 2400 silver). Not even sure what the purpose of this attribute is.
Enchanters really are the worst rank 8 class in the game, by a large margin at that.
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>>162250220
Temp Level Up was useful when the level discrepancy caused MASSIVE bad effects, now it isn't any useful. Isn't Enchant Lightning just a setup for Storm Calling? Someone posted it caused your attacks to be lightning element while also being physical, so you'd get both bonuses.
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>>162250220
I remember someone posting about Enchanter and Sage having unused skills that were scrapped
https://tos.neet.tv/skills?cls=none&f=1
Like sage was supposed to have maze or something, and enchanter having magic powder or whatever. I hope they add those skills/rework current ones sometime in the future, I mean sage isn't even a "dps" class (despite being red), and the only support it offers is missile hole (amazing) and duplicate (not so good). I don't have a sage, but from what I've seen duplicate seems too weak with all the limitations it has
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>Go full CON on my Thauma believing they switched invested stats rather than directly stats number.
>It doesn't
Well, at least I still have my reset potion, still salty about it though.
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is hackapell the only choice if i'm a SR?
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>>162250346
Enchant Lightning + Storm Calling is useful, but I've never seen it happen.
Not only are Taoists pretty damn rare, but Enchant Lightning has a tiny ass AOE so getting it on the people it needs to be on is hard enough.
Then you've got to set up Storm Calling which essentially acts like a trap and you have to lure enemies into it to trigger it.
After it has been triggered you've got seconds for your damage dealers to actually do something. Just hope their shit isn't on cooldown.
This is way too much co-ordination to expect a bunch of random people to pull it off. Even a premade party can struggle to do it.
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>>162250447
>>162250220
Sage and Enchanter are both horribly bad. One good skill but all other are literally crap.
They should have merged them into one class. And even than it would be shitty.
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>>162250568
enchant lightning is the same range as enchant fire, that's why, I will never understand why they're both short as fuck. They reworked blessing to scale with stats, and thaum buffs will be soon, I hope enchant lightning (and enchant fire) follow the same route
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>>162248183
>mfw no matter how good you or your equips are there will always be sub zero shield and revenge seven fold
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>all skills in this game had fixed damage + base attack
Why do people thought this would work?
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>>162250775
>sub zero shield freezes the hunter even though it's the pet that's attacking
really makes you think
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>>162248183
Sounds like dispellers should just be usable. It'd be good for pardoners too.
What items can and can't be used in PVP modes anyway?
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>>162250893
Only antidotes afaik, no skill scrolls, no dispellers. Enchanter buffs carry over, and I guess squire ones too
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>>162250568
Mind you I saw other Taoists but never using Storm Calling or other Tao spells because lol 1k cost. I remember someone saying Enchant had the same aoe as enchant fire, and even more wonky behavior (sometimes even if you're standing on top it won't work), so that's a unreliable setup by the start, but regarding storm calling, isn't it triggered by the Begone Demon?
Either way, I find classes that are only useful by some very gimmicky setup bad by default. It's the kind of balancing that makes it hard to play without having slaves.
>>162250716
Thauma buffs need more solid scaling imo.
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>>162250945
>>162250893
Oh and the gacha pots some people are so salty about
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>>162250220
>it's 500 damage per hit in a time where everything has 500k hp.
500 damage that is affected by multipliers. In what world is having a weapon that has 500 more damage not good? It's probably only really good for mages who tend to have the multihit spells, but using fireball as an example, that's 22,500 more damage just from 2 naked fireballs with 50% attribute. That's like 30k or 50k with weaknesses involved, and just that 22.5k with links is a ridiculous amount of extra damage. That extra 500 damage alone would do at least a third of 500k HP just from linking.
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>>162250976
>Thauma buffs need more solid scaling imo
I think blessing also needs it. As an example, malleus debuff (from a fucking damage class) gives extra dmg from all sources (even skellies benefit from it I think) and scales really well. I've been with two necros who both get rank 1 over mergens and drg2, I like to think all the extra damage I give them is a significant factor
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>>162251000
>>162250945
So you can't use normal potions? They should enable all that and boost the crafter market.
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>>162251474
You can use normal potions (and the keista ones I think), but they don't scale with your hp unlike gacha ones (or cleric heals for that matter). With all the dmg that r8 shits out normal pots aren't very good. Not that I see anyone using gacha pots in tbl anyway
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>>162251308
It's not even that way, Malleus is a pretty high rank ability, so it's hard to compare both. My problem is that there is NO reason to go Thauma for supportive purpose, hell even gimmicky purposes went to the drain since now everyone has shitload of health from other means and reversi is scrollable.
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>>162251686
I guess that's true, considering thaums will always have to compete with chrono for the support slot.
The biggest reason you'd probably go thaum is for swell (but then you could always just go thaum1 chrono 3 anyway)
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>>162047171
why?
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>Go to bed after somebody posts high level ET content taking advantage of unusual class combinations
>People start talking about PvP and the 3-5 builds that are amazing at PvP again
Wow truly exciting discussion I'm glad we can talk about how Psycho and clerics and Catas are OP every fucking day based on their TBL performance and not the actual game. Korean MMOs are the best place to demonstrate your personal pvp skill and balance is the only thing stopping you from dominating the competition after all.
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>>162252164
>and balance is the only thing stopping you from dominating the competition after all
Well, that and money to RMT with.
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Whats the consensus to Fencers?
Aside from them being the level headed brother of Dop?
is Barb Fencer the best Fencer with +200 crit rate?
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>>162252164
>roughly half the discussion was about classes being subpar in pve
here's your (you), I guess
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>>162251827
tfw no Thauma2 and Pardoner friends to make me immune to r8 content
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Can somebody tell me whats better for fletcher?bow or crossbow + shield
also why is plate so much better than leather
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>>162252506
I duo'd mishekan questline as a kabba2 with a sorc3 linker. I just give him ein sof so he gets 60k hp to make sure he doesnt die, and we just support his TS (he gives it missile hole, I give it heals), it was way comfier than the 5 man party I did it with
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>>162252605
If you go mergen, you use 2h bows, if you go other combination of flecher xbow+dagger/handgun
You don't use shields as offensive classes
Plate gives the most def, and only few monsters in the game have strike, and even when they do, plate gives so much more def and HP that is worth using.
Some archers stick to leather, but I wouldn't recommend that in pve unless you're in a reliable party
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>>162249494
Didn't archers get the worst of all the class trees in r8? Besides wizs getting fucked on with mdef mobs.
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>>162252330
Fucking OP but good luck getting the weapon.
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>>162252767
>Besides wizs getting fucked on with mdef mobs.
Stop spewing tosg memes. The only thing that really hurts wizards are link immune enemies.
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>>162252767
>Didn't archers get the worst of all the class trees in r8? Besides wizs getting fucked on with mdef mobs.
Just Musketeer and Cannoneer, mergen and hakka are pretty good, hakka is just not popular, but I'd say it can be stronger than mergen.
Muskekt can have some uses, Cannon is just plain useless
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Only 11 days until we get archer sailor costumes!
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>>162252815
I dont get the idea for Solmiki Rapier, why bother putting a weapon for a class that cant do said content?
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>>162252857
>Stop spewing tosg memes.
Do you have a wizard r8?
I have a wiz3link2necro3 and a wiz3ele3wl2, and both are really bad even with a transcend 3 +8 windia rod.
My doppelgoon2 does x10 more damage in a lower time, while still using a +7 brandish.
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Why is this game so unforgiving!
And why is everyone in this thread so gay?!
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>>162253030
To do it on an alt and then trade it over
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>>162253043
Yes. R8 is fine.
>more damage in a lower time
Whoop de do. Mages aren't incapable of doing any damage like tosg suggests. Also your builds are shitty meta meme builds, that's probably the problem. Although wiz 3 link necro is a bit stronger since those dirty pole shards will let you put out posion damage and the pole itself lets you link things to it and share damage if nothing else is around.
But yeah, not only do you spew tosg memes, you build them too. Can't wait for you to quit when R9 comes and the meta changes again and swings away from swords towards archers or something.
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>>162253416
>But yeah, not only do you spew tosg memes, you build them too.
Play the game
>Although wiz 3 link necro is a bit stronger since those dirty pole shards will let you put out posion damage and the pole itself lets you link things to it and share damage if nothing else is around
Yea, definitively, play the game.
Why would someone quit because a character is weak, if he can just make something else?
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>>162253578
You play exclusively builds suggested by other people as strong and then tell somebody else to "play the game" even when there's video evidence in the thread of people using wiz as a backup damage dealer in ET 40.
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>>162253578
You're the one who needs to play it, instead of believing everything you read. You probably still think pyro is weak.
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>>162253672
>You probably still think pyro is weak
not that anon, but please, at least make your bait less obvious
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>>162253672
>You probably still think pyro is weak.
???
You have severe problems, Anon. Get help
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>>162253416
Nobody said they were incapable of damage in R8 ya dumbfuck. What was said and what is an undeniable fact is that wiz's got fucked on with how much mdef monsters were given in R8. If you don't see how this is a problem, that giving very high mdef to mobs when most wiz's spells have lower base damages but higher hit counts fucks them over then I've got nothing else to say.
Why do you sound so salty anyway, sound like a right cunt.
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>>162253719
>>162253738
Literally make a pryo linker and play the game.
>Kill shit no problem
>got fucked on
>Because they kill slightly slower than meta class of the season
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>>162253707
>You play exclusively builds suggested by other people
Why would you assume that shiposter-kun? I play with what I like. Characters slots are a thing, you know?
I roll shit like zombie bokor, chaplain, and sadhu3, if you think that because I have meta classes I can't have anything else you're retarded, sorry.
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>>162253997
>You're retarded
>Play the game
Nice memes but people are using wiz 3 pyro 3 in ET and I"ll believe actual gameplay over a bunch of shitters aping the same builds. Having a Sadhu/Chap/Bokor doesn't have any bearing on your opinions on Wiz classes and the proof is there that people are still using Wizards to do damage in spite of what /tosg/ claims.
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>>162253794
anon just stop
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>>162254157
Your autism is showing.
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>>162253794
>>162254157
>>162253416
HAHAHA
This guy
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Is Miko at r8 a mistake?
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>>162255393
PD2 and Inquisitor are stronger
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>>162255393
I dunno, what were your earlier circles?
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>>162256209
diev3 oracle and I'm r7-ready.
So either I wait for miko and take inquisitor at r8, or I advance to kabba now and take miko at r8.
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>>162257205
I see, okay. Well, in that case I'd wait on miko for r7 rather than r8. You can get a disenchant skill for miko and some more fire power with inq so I'd go with that personally.
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>joint penalty
>sleep
>energy bolt
>40k damage
well, lad
why linker is still allowed
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>>162259020
Soul linker had some of the most brokenly OP skills in the game
Kim has a thing for linkers
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>>162259020
>>162259362
>the whole class can be changed for a scroll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl5gEVSPe8k
Wizards should be moved to the support category.
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