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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General. Let's talk about Sonic games, old and new, and the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more!

/sthg/ #625 - This Shit Needs to End Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments<
JP “Sonic Fan Thanksgiving” Event Detailed
http://www.tssznews.com/2016/11/24/jp-sonic-fan-thanksgiving-event-detailed/

Archie Comics February 2017 Covers and Solicitations
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/articles/archie-comics-february-2017-covers-and-solicitatio/1100-156194/

'Deadpool' Director Shifts to Sony's 'Sonic the Hedgehog' Movie
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/deadpool-director-tim-miller-developing-sonic-hedgehog-movie-sony-942661

Iizuka States Project 2017 Introduces a New Character:
http://twitter.com/PushDustIn/status/792004664317194240

A character from the games to debut in Sonic Boom, & Shadow to return in Boom Season 2
https://twitter.com/BillFreiberger/status/796774749418336256

Tails & Knuckles gameplay in Sonic Mania, & Mirage Saloon revealed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al0GFfRfq9w

>Recent and Upcoming Releases<
The Sonic the Hedgehog level pack for LEGO Dimensions has released! You can purchase it online or at physical retailers near you. NOTE: You will need the LEGO Dimensions starter pack to play.

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html

The Sonic X seasons 1 and 2 collection is out now. Season 3 will be released December 6th.

Sonic Boom Season 2 is currently airing! New episodes premiere on Boomerang Saturdays at 6PM.

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
http://kisscartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom
http://kisscartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom-Season-2

Last Thread: N/A
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for what purpose
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What the fuck?
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>>161679728
>This Shit Needs to End
You mean /sthg/?
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>>161679995
The retard shitposting and janitors not doing their jobs properly.
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>>161679842
>>161679991
Swatbot abuse at this point. Some were talking about the aftermath of what happened the past week. Those comments got selectively deleted and then the whole thread.

Didn't we have a board where we could post our complaints about this stuff?

>>161680037
There was no shitposting in the last 30 or so comments. Only commentary about /sthg/ and its posters.
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>>161680249
Pretty sure that stupid catfucker was complaining about getting banned, had his posts deleted, and then the thread was 404'd when I got there.
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>>161680335
Then they should aim for him and not let the rest suffer. Can't they report him to someone or something for the shit he posts here?
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IGN intensifies.
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It's gonna be a while before people find their way back here, huh.
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>thread #625
It's 626 Holy shit why can't you faggots count
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I left for an hour and a half to go save flashes for the archive. WTF happened?
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Sitting there for 20 minutes wondering why no one was posting please
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>>161681304
Literally admin abuse
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>>161681254
I sometimes wonder if we should just drop the number.
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>>161681425
I see no reason to. I'd like to keep track of our progress.
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>>161681254
>Counting deleted threads
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Tell me about your steel donuts and how would they interact with Bump or Sage.
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>>161681553
I'd rather wonder what Bump's reaction to Classic Sonic would be.
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>>161681254
Yeah, I'm not counting the thread that got 404'd. I won't retroactively reverse the numbers but I'm not going to keep counting half-threads as if they got archived from auto-saging.
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>>161681553
>Encouraging OC garbage
How about no
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>>161681553
My OC would be incredibly awkward around them, avoiding eye contact and only replying to potential conversation starters with a non-receptive mutter until they walked away.
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>>161681687
>I get to decide which threads count
Yeah, no.

Especially at this rate, with what's happening, if we follow that rule, we will never advance.

Plus 2 of the 3 deleted threads almost hit bump limit anyway.
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>>161681553
Don't have one. I'm content with Bump being cute.
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>>161681254
I'll address the error in the next thread.
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>>161681790
Yeah, I do. I made the thread, so I'll do as I wish to it. I don't believe 404'd threads count as a whole thread so I didn't increase the number.

And if we follow your rule we'll hit 700 in a couple of weeks.

Which is part of the reason I didn't retroactively subtract but that last thread was barely over 400 posts.
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I like the post number because #00 threads are fun.
But there's no need to be overly autistic about it. It isn't even accurate in the first place.
As long as we're not flying through numbers we'll be okay.
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>>161681993
Good thing you're not in charge.
We will fix your Mistake in future threads.
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/sthg/ - numbers
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>>161681993
>being this autistic about it
It's thread 626.
It will be corrected in time.
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>>161682163
Except I was, sperg. "Fix" it if you want but I already made my decision. No use crying about it after the fact like a small child.
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If we're going to talk about numbers, then talk about numbers related to Sonic.

Why are certain numbers in Sonic so special anyway?

7 Emeralds
50 Rings
300 IQ
etc.
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Don't get in to number wars.
Just don't.
Make the next thread #626 and we'll continue from there.
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>>161679728
>Last Thread: N/A

Oh jeez, what did you fuckers do this time?
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>>161682634
We went too fast.
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>>161682634
We questioned things not meant to be known by mortal man.
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>No new posts in the old thread
>Figures that it was just going slow
>Only to find out it was deleted

What the fuck?
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Okay seriously, what is getting these threads deleted recently?
Are we getting roped into b8 so hard we send the thread to ground zero in terms of cancer?
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>>161683727
Only reason I saw for last thread was people discussing the events on /qa/.

Though I will say that the b8posting has been getting worse lately.
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>>161683727
I'm not sure if that's it, but I'm really tired of people continuing to argue bait posts and sending the thread into mass anger for hours.
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>>161683516
She looks quite bumpy.
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>>161684128
Well then maybe people should stop replying to obvious bait.
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>>161684128
>lately
It's been going on for several months now. I don't understand how it is constantly fallen for.
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>>161684128
>>161684246
Fuck i saw that shit in the trash thread but i didnt know what it was about.
Now seeing it all together is a bit pathetic.
if people want (you)s this bad go to /b/
we really got to stop replying to bad bait
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>>161684445
>>161684380
>>161684351
>>161684246
The sad thing is that we can't even know for sure if it's people really arguing with them or if they're samefagging their own posts to make it seem like the bait's been taken. Maybe the measures that were taken last night will help. Only time will tell.
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>>161684128
So how do we remove these non-fans?
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So, does anybody have the coloured version of the image with BoomKnuckles, Bump and Sage? I saw the thumbnail in the last thread but I was too slow and it was nuked long before I got to it.
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>>161684751
>Implying they're non fans for stating the truth
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Do not bite the b8. always remember this
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>>161684751
Don't respond to bait and report, report, report.

On a lighter note, what's /sthg/ playing tonight? Gonna play any sonics?

>>161684830
Here ya go.
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>>161684751
Just report, ignore, & don't give them the (You)'s they crave. Simple.
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>>161684980
>what's /sthg/ playing tonight?
Rush 2049
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>>161684980
>On a lighter note, what's /sthg/ playing tonight?
Pokemon Showdown. The game's actually kind of fun now that Spookysword is fucking banned
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>>161681385
No kidding, I realized only now.
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>>161684980
Truly a scholar and a gentleman, anon. Thank you.

As for 'what I'm doing', probably no Sanics. Got a lot of model work to do.
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>>161682634
>Oh jeez, what did you fuckers do this time?
Literally nothing.
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Sonic & The Lord of the Rings
Would you play it?
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>>161682465
You mean #627

>>161684980
The problem is a lot of the bait posts are the same people responding to themselves via airplane mode mass mobile spamming.
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>>161685980
>The problem is a lot of the bait posts are the same people responding to themselves via airplane mode mass mobile spamming.
That would explain why so many people were IP range banned today.
The mods aren't messing around.
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>>161685930
Sure, why not
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>>161684980
>what's /sthg/ playing tonight?
Hitman. Lots and lots of Hitman.
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DED GENERAL
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>>161685980
#626 or #627, whichever it is let's just agree to keep it when the thread is made.
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>>161686607
Might result in thread wars, but it's not like we can sink any lower at this point.

What happened to us, guys?
We used to be such a happy general.
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>>161686707
>What happened to us?

People began to take a Sonic general too seriously.

Also shitposters.
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>>161685930
But Anon....you can already do that.
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>>161686707
a new breed of shitposters and curse of 2016.
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>>161686892
>People began to take a Sonic general too seriously.
How poetic. It's the same reason Sonic went to shit to begin with
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So anyways, post Amy's.
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>>161686892
>>161687012
This and some posters with names who have gotten shit on by us (for a reason) trying to kill /sthg/.
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>>161687230
I unironically think Boom Amy is her best design.
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>>161686707
Shitposters. Honestly, I don't enjoy it here anymore and I'm thinking of leaving. I hate the idea of giving up, specially because I used to love this place, but what's the point anymore?
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>>161687502
The bedroom eyes and leggings are great, but I hate the Hillary Clinton one piece suit
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>>161687756
Literally just don't respond to them or report them. It's not that hard.
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>>161687502
It's also her best personality. Same with Knuckles. All they did for Knuckles was just take away the dumb rock and make him funny, but it makes a world of difference
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>>161687872
I still think treating Knuckles as a pure idiot rather than just gullible is a bit over the top.
It works for the cartoon but I hope it doesn't carry over into, say, the games.
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>>161687947
>I still think treating Knuckles as a pure idiot rather than just gullible is a bit over the top.
Honestly he's been a pure idiot for a while now, so this is rather par for the course. Don't really see how it'd be too much to have an actual idiot, since that's a role that would otherwise be unfilled
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>>161688039
>Honestly he's been a pure idiot for a while now,
Thinking about it, I guess you're right.
It does seem to be amped up to 11 in Boom though.
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>>161688149
>It does seem to be amped up to 11 in Boom though.
That is true, but it works. Instead of being the idiot, he's a funny idiot. Kind of wish that aspect would carry over to mainline. Not the design, but the humor. Then again, I kinda wish that all the Boom personalities would carry over since they're infinitely better than mainline but I guess that'd ruin the point of Boom. But if/when boom dies, I'd love to see them carry over
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Gimp is shit
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>>161687947
Boom!Knuckles stupidity works in Boom, but it's not something I wanna see in the games. Same thing for Boom!Amy's personality.
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>>161687832
I've never replied to them, I think the way those conversations go is the stupidest thing ever, and I've reported them in the past, but that only got me warned. I can't think of anything else to do and the situation is aggravating to witness.
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>>161688569
>Same thing for Boom!Amy's personality.
Just curious, why? The annoying fangirl aspect of her is toned down in Boom, and she feels more complete and tolerable because of that
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>>161688695
I unironically agree with this.
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>>161688695
Because Archie!Amy's characterization fits her game counterpart more than Boom, imo. It does a great job of showing Amy being a capable fighter, as well as her being a fangirl for Sonic. Same thing with her portrayal in SA1.

Don't get me wrong, I like Boom!Amy, but it's not my favorite version of Amy Rose.
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>>161688967
>Because Archie!Amy's characterization fits her game counterpart more than Boom, imo. It does a great job of showing Amy being a capable fighter, as well as her being a fangirl for Sonic. Same thing with her portrayal in SA1.
I just don't get why she has to be a fangirl is all. I get the appeal at the time of creation, but now, it's just kind of annoying. I prefer it in Boom where she has a small crush on him, but still doesn't take any shit from him and more often than not they're at odds with each other. I think the Boom dynamics and characterizations are some of the most solid the franchise has ever seen
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>>161689104
Amy's fangirl aspect is perfectly fine, imo. So long as you don't flanderize it, & do more with her crush than just the typical "she chases Sonic, & Sonic ignores her" bit, it can still work.

>but still doesn't take shit from him

To be fair, we've seen Game!Amy not take any shit from Sonic in the past.
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>>161689280
>Amy's fangirl aspect is perfectly fine, imo. So long as you don't flanderize it, & do more with her crush than just the typical "she chases Sonic, & Sonic ignores her" bit, it can still work.
So basically do what Boom is doing now?
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>>161689342
Nah, since Boom turned it into a secret crush. She can still be open about it, but again, do more than just fangirl over Sonic.
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>>161679728
>SombraAndReaper.jpg
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>>161689494
Eh, fair enough. Although, again, you can make it a normal crush and still do that kinda thing
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>>161689723
Yeah, but I personally think Amy being open about her crush makes sense, given her age & all. I mean personally, Boom!Amy's personality would fit an older Amy Rose, tho.
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>>161689847
being as open about her crush as she is*
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>>161688695
I agree with this.
In my opinion she has a character despite still being obsessed with sonson
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I think the difference between Boom Amy and Mainline Amy is that Boom Amy is much more subdued.

Mainline Amy kinda wears her emotions on her sleeve. She's very dreamy and talks about how she believes in true love or how hurting innocent creatures is wrong. When you make her mad she'll be quick to act, either with words or violence. You will never not know what Amy is thinking because she'll make it incredibly apparent.

Boom Amy on the other hand feels a bit more generic. She tends to be the voice of reason. The mature one and her only flaws is that she's often manic or obsessive. Beyond that she hardly even feels like the same character except for her love of critters and a sense of justice.
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>>161690468
>Boom Amy on the other hand feels a bit more generic. She tends to be the voice of reason. The mature one and her only flaws is that she's often manic or obsessive. Beyond that she hardly even feels like the same character except for her love of critters and a sense of justice.
Honestly this makes her infinitely more likable than the genki girl that is Mainline Amy
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>>161690468
just imo, the latter seems like a better character.
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>>161690468
Pretty much. And personally, I do find Game!Amy to be the more likable character for it, though Boom!Amy is fine.
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>>161690690
>>161690778
My problem is it's just safe. You'd be hard pressed to find a show that DOESN'T have a character like Boom Amy in it. She's somehow more generic than she already was, which is pretty telling since her character was basically "the girl"
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>>161691365
Honestly I find her pretty appealing, and while she is generic, like you said, so is Game Amy. Boom Amy is just the less annoying Generic Girl
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>>161691365
You're not wrong. That being said, I can see why some people like Boom!Amy over Game!Amy.

I mean yeah, her character is pretty much "female lead in western cartoon," but to some people in the West, that's the more appealing character, than the "girly girl" character Game!Amy has.
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>>161690468
>Boom Amy on the other hand feels a bit more generic
Pretty much my thoughts on Boom characters in general and why I don't like them, though I would use stronger words to describe that.
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>>161685930
Nope
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>>161687502
The leggings is what does it for me
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Reminder if you don't ship Silver and Blaze, you're objectively doing it wrong
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>>161692673
>Shipping an autist with a beta
Fag
Just kidding, but seriously autistic Blaze would be kinda neat
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>>161692751
I thought they were both autistic.
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Anyone else have weird and inaccurate Sonic dreams?
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>>161693204
I'm afraid you've reached stage 3 autism. There's no known cure
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>>161692673
>Silver & Blaze
>Not superior Amy & Blaze
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>>161693430
Why not a menage a trois?
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>>161693204
I used to

...I wish I still did
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what did sega mean by this?
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/804830379265978368
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>>161693735
Because Silver's a geek.
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>>161694307
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>>161684751
>non-fans
stop

you're making that resident /v/ shitposter Cody look good if you keep spouting that shit
>"hurr pretendo"
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>>161694330
You're a geek
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For those that want a high quality sneak peek of "Nutwork" Here you go.

https://qt.vidyagam.es/on8FkJD.mp4
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WAIT

DID MIKE POLLOCK VOICE THE SPANISH MAID IN SONIC X?
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>>161694938
I'm not a geek, because I'm not Silver.
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>>161695272
Yes.
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>>161685930
>why doesn't Frodo just have Sonic carry him to Mordor
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>>161694938
Th--
That's l-lewd!
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>>161695306
Pls future hog is not for bully
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>>161695418
I'll bully him as much as I want.
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>>161695329
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>>161695567
Don't do it
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>>161695567
That's a concussion for sure
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>>161695418
Future hog is for wiping from the timeline.
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>>161695806
If generations is anything to go by he was restored
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>>161693735
Cute
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>>161695897
He was already restored in Rivals, though.
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>>161696160
I actually forgot rivals existed
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>>161696215
I forgot the PSP existed.
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>>161688246
In the regular games Knuckles should be kinda smart though. Not Tails smart, but I would think he would know geology and about the mystic ruins and blah blah.

I think OVA Knuckles had the best balance. Because stoic Knuckles from Sonic X wasn't working for me either.
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>>161696543
The PSP had the problem of having a lot of boring titles and not enough fun titles. For what it's worth though I liked it.

Which speaking of Silver, he was so over powered in '06, even in multiplayer. It was so broken!
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>decide to import another folder into Hydrus
>25/677
god dammit.
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>>161697397
I think Knuckles should also know what plants, animals, etc were safe to eat, how to tell if something new was safe to eat, and how to prepare them. Basically how to survive alone out in the wilderness since he grew up alone on an island.
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I really dug Sonic Rivals. Given the second one was shit for gameplay but the first one was a blast. And to be honest I loved the costumes too. Remember Shard's look was based on the Metal Sonic 3.0. Also I think it's fun to imagine Sonic in the ice suit when he is in Holsoka in Unleashed.
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>>161698157
Shadow's disco suit was to die for! I loved it!
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>>161698702
You mean this? Yeah, I like how they had some fun with the costumes too.
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>>161698157
More costumes is something the games need to start doing again.
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>>161698909
At least the Olympic games give us some outfits, at least for the female cast. Also I found this a while back. Someone did a great mockup of a Rivals suit for Amy.
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>>161698909
Among other things! I like innovation, but I'd like the costumes and chao back.
I also like the hub worlds, as long as they stay kinda small.

06's hub world was so huge I got lost a lot.
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>>161699401
Something's wrong with her neck
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So, what are you doing, /sthg/?

I'm here eating Chinese and listening to Biolizard because of no life.
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>>161699489
More like her head. It's off kilter.
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>>161699436
My regret is that the Wii version of Sonic Unleased just had the image for each Country you went to. I would have liked to explore Apotos.
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>>161699436
06's hub world wasn't really all that big, it was just boring with no notable features so everything just blended together.
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>>161699604
Unleashed had a great hub world.
I know this is a slightly unpopular opinion but I like the interactions with humans in the games. Like Professor Pickle.
When done right it's fantastic.
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>>161699710
I don't care how unpopular that opinion is, it's the right opinion. Unleashed did Sonic-style humans perfectly.
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>>161699638
>>161699436
It was still a nightmare going from place to place as silver because of his slower top speed
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>>161699728
Huge fan of the hubs. But hub was a nightmare.

As a kid I was really disappointed that SA2 didn't have a hub like SA1.
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>>161698157
Oh, that's where the Secret FF's got their uniform from.
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>>161699945
Yeah Silver's his directly based off the games counterpart.
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>>161699489
You mean the fact that she has one?
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>>161699864
GameGrumps :^)
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>>161700032
Sometimes the necks are drawn well. But her head is literally not even in the correct placement. It's weird.
Also her neck must be pure muscle cause that shit is thick.
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>>161699864
Either pokecapn, or any of the GDQ runs. The most recent one legitimately had a glitch that nobody had ever experienced before and these are people who have gone through and abused the game on a regular basis.
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>>161699576
Playing Dead Space 3. /v/ lied to me, in other news the clear sky is blue during the day, this game is pretty fucking fun.
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>>161699894
I have no idea why they didn't have one for SA2, it feels like it's seriously missing.
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>>161699864
Well not anything by me. I could never get past the Radical Train shit in Sonic's story.
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>>161700000
nice get faggot bitch

t. /scv/
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>>161700325
Also, another unpopular opinion:
I feel like the romance between Sonic and Elise could have worked, but it was rushed, forced, and not genuine.
A lot of people complain about the Sonic and Elise thing, but I think they mostly hate it because it wasn't written well.
(ShadMaria gets far less salt for some odd reason, not a fan of it, but it's weird more of those parallels aren't made. I consider them siblings)
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>>161699576
Listening to music and avoiding doing much because feeling a bit down.
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>>161700591
>(ShadMaria gets far less salt for some odd reason, not a fan of it, but it's weird more of those parallels aren't made. I consider them siblings)
Probably because it was written well and it wasn't meant to be romantic. Same reason everyone creams themselves over that one episode of Sonic X with the cripple fuck
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>>161700295
Because it wouldn't have made sense with everyone being fugitives for the entire game.
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>>161693204
I nodded off after watching some Sonic CD review and had a dream that Taxman made an actually good final boss for it that was a giant Chaos 0 robot.
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>>161697397
>In the regular games Knuckles should be kinda smart though. Not Tails smart, but I would think he would know geology and about the mystic ruins and blah blah.
Maybe, but that just makes him another exposition guy, and Tails could just do the history exposition anyways. At least Knuckles being the comedy relief retard gives him a unique role
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>>161700717
It also kind of reminds of the alien thing, we're okay with two different aliens dating each other, but not two sentient beings from the same planet? Don't get me wrong, I don't ship it, but logically by that logic Sonic shouldn't be with anything except hedgehog's ever.
It's probably just really hard to do.

Also it didn't help that outside of the cutscenes the in game models were super gross.
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>>161700995
Sonic' mouth looked like the Marianas Trench. UGH. I always hated it. And for their height they look really tall and gangly.
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>>161700990
You can do comedy without him being retarded. Sonic and Knuckles butt heads naturally as friendly rivals, that by itself has plenty of comedic potential without reducing one or both to braindead.
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>>161700990
But why does Tails know all that info off hand? We never see him look this stuff up. I kinda wish he looked stuff up more.
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>>161700183
DS1
>shooting crazy aliens with awesome power tool like weapons
DS3
>shooting generic humans with goofy ass custom machine guns
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>>161701253
>But why does Tails know all that info off hand?
He wouldn't. He'd have some portable computer or some shit that he made on hand that'd tell him, Sonic, and the player everything
>>161701212
They stopped being rivals over a decade ago. Frankly at least this would make him something other than a damn cheerleader
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>>161701334
Knuckles has been the funny idiot off and on since Heroes and it's been boring.
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>>161701274
>shooting generic humans
Something only happens a handful of times compared to the dozens of times you shoot "crazy aliens".
>with goofy ass custom machine guns
I've only used the ripper on this playthrough.
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>>161701334
Shadow took that slot a long time ago.
You never even see them hang out really. I want to see more comradery.
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>>161700591
I wouldn't want to see any romance between them but I do kind of like Elise.
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>>161701486
>Shadow took that slot a long time ago.
And then lost it because he never showed up again after 06 outside of Generations, where he was a cheerleader. Frankly at this point all the side characters have the same role: Cheerleader.
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>>161701496
Same, again I think she could have been great (Mephiles too), they just had a bad start in a bad game.
with bad writing to boot.
not really their fault.

I'm grateful, but I was surprised Silver survived outside of 06.
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>>161701614
Shadow should have stayed dead after Adventure 2 and Silver is just uninteresting.
Two hogs is all we need.
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>>161701714
I especially love Sonic Comics Silver Evan Stanley' Silver. Both written really well in my opinion.

At least they changed Silver's VA in the new games. The old one made him sound like too much of whining nerd.
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>>161701714
Silver doesn't need to exist, but Shadow could've been a great fucking villain, but no, we needed an angsty anti hero with a complicated as fuck backstory.
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>>161701863
Isn't he voiced by Raiden's VA now?
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>>161701943
Yes.
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>>161701958
Pete Capella right?
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>>161702058
No, that was his 4kids VA. His current VA, who is also Raiden, is Quinton Flynn.
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>>161702168
Ah. Well Quinton is certainly superior.
Super glad that Pollock survived from the Sonic X crew.
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>>161700000
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>>161702361
It's just quints.
What was the biggest get of /sthg/?
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>>161702512
>3 fingers
I really hate that about western cartoons and artists.
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>>161702779
This post will make it painfully aware that Piccolo had 3 fingers in the manga throughout the entire thing.
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>>161702575
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>>161702575
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/149959508/#150000000
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>>161702839
He's an ayy so it's fine.
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SPEEDS
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sonic the hedgehog
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>>161704327
TOO
FAST
FOR
THE


naked
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>>161701679
Silver survived, because despite being considered one of the most hated character, he was the only redeeming character in 06 (Mephiles, despite being permanently dead, was this too, to a lesser extent).
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>>161694990
Does she spit or swallow?
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>>161704935
I mean, shit, Mephiles actually became playable for the first time in Sonic Runners, surprisingly. Hated as he is, he, like Silver, is one of the characters in 06 that people deemed as likable or memorable.
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>>161706118
Honestly I think Mephiles could work. It's just 06's writing was so rushed and trashy everyone seems like shit.
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>>161681553
he would get both of them pregnant everyday
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>>161684128
kek
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>>161706203
I guess, but to me, he's just some generic villain who's a Shadow recolor. I'd probably call him the worst Sonic villain/character ever if Dan Green hadn't voiced him.
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>>161706921
Gotta give him credit. He's more competent than Eggman ever was. He actually killed Sonic
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>>161706921
No way in hell he's worse than the Deadly Six. At least Mephiles had a personality.
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>>161700591
I don't really want Sonic to have a serious romantic relationship with anyone. If I want this relationship fix, I want to be that Sonic and Elise developed a close genuine friendship.
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>>161707170
Meh, the Deadly Six are bland as a plank, but I don't think they're that bad. If anything, my vote goes to Lyric as being the worst.
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>>161707663
>the Deadly Six are bland as a plank
Exactly. Hammy villains are at least entertaining. The worst thing you can make is something boring.
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So have we storytimed anything else aside from the last Uni where they join the pirates?
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>>161708064
I think we did Sonic 289 AKA Classicfag's wet dream because it's literally fucking Sonic 2
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>>161708064
Sonic 289 not long ago.

Issue kinda sucked and the storytime was mostly surrounded by shitposting.
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When's the next part of Universe?
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>>161708430
2 weeks
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>>161708281
>>161708306
Yeah, that's how I feel about this arc. Where the hell are the other FFs?
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>>161708631
Off doing stuff. People would probably bitch en masse if they showed up past issue 1 because it'd somehow ruin the sanctity of the games or whatever.
Then again I'm probably in the minority that reads the comic for the OCs and not the game cast
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>>161708708
>spoiler
As long as Sonic is in it then it's good enough for me, unless if he is barely shown.
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>>161708708
I read the comic for both comic and game casts, it's just that the plot of this arc is too close to Sonic 2 to the point of a being predictable and boring, even if Snivley is there.
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>>161709392
>I read the comic for both comic and game casts, it's just that the plot of this arc is too close to Sonic 2 to the point of a being predictable and boring, even if Snivley is there.
Exactly. I get why they're doing this arc to begin witt, because nostalgia, but it seems unecessary given that Mega Drive was a nostalgiafest yet was original also
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>>161709476
Just like how Classic Sonic seems unnecessary in 2017 since Sonic Mania exist
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>>161710509
Exactly. Frankly I'm getting pretty fucking tired of Classic. Mania is fucking awesome, don't get me wrong, but him being in 2017 irks me because he was in the last modern anniversary game too. At least then there was the novelty of seeing Classic for the first time in over a decade, but frankly I'm sick of seeing him. Yeah, Green Hill Zone was cool the first time, the 206th time? Not so much
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>>161710509
>>161710585
You fags don't even know what his role is in 2017, so save your bitching and moaning for when we do know it.
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>>161710646
Thing is, unless it's Generations 2, how can Classic Sonic return?

And I do agree that Classic in the 3D games is already played out, especially with Mania coming.
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>>161710646
You're right. For all we know he could be insignificant. The thing is, why have him to begin with? Why put him in the Modern game when you have fucking Mania AKA a brand new Classic sonic game built from the ground up to play like the Genesis games. It just seems redundant, that's all
I wouldn't even mind so much if Classic in these games was less about being cute and more about the attitude. I'm not saying I want SaTAM levels, but more maybe along the lines of the OVA.
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>>161710646
They won't drag him out if he isn't playable, since the backlash would be too immense for Sega

He's playable to some degree in a Sonic game, and that means he'll be 2D in some capacity, since that's his gimmick that sells the character. Sonic has come full circle and is now Mario, where the characters have preset abilities that defines them and are associated with them. Classic is like the Luigi of the group, where his thing is his thing, and another character has their own thing
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>>161710646
>You fags don't even know what his role is in 2017

He's the main character. Modern is just a buddy you have during certain missions, see the missions in Generations for examples.
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>>161710894
>He's playable to some degree in a Sonic game, and that means he'll be 2D in some capacity, since that's his gimmick that sells the character.
Which is kind of fucking pointless when you have Mania coming out before this game. So why go for something that's gonna be, at best, a poor imitation of the real deal that we're getting months earlier?
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>>161710950
If Classic isn't in the game why bother buying it?
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Classic is in Project 2017 because it is an extremely safe move after Lost World and the Boom fiasco.
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So after Project 2017, what would you guys like to see in the next Modern Sonic 3D game?
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>>161711307
A return to basics. No new characters, no new gameplay elements, just a simple basic "Sonic stops Eggman" set up in wacky cartoon levels that AREN'T in space.
As for the gameplay, it should probably be either boost or Sonic's SA1 gameplay
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>>161711376
>just a simple basic "Sonic stops Eggman" set up in wacky cartoon levels that AREN'T in space
>I want another LW
pls stop
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>>161711489
Anon, let's not do this, pls.
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>>161711027
Never played it, but was Lost World seriously that bad?
>>161711142
Keep dreaming. I don't hate Classic Sonic, but I just a solo Modern Sonic game
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>>161711528
>replying to bait
Nigga, we went over this earlier. Fucking stop.
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>>161711376
JUST

nope I'm out. fuck it.
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>>161692673
>shipping anything with Silver
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>>161711489
No, not Lost World. LW had new characters and a really shitty new gameplay style
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>>161711307
Go for either Colors boost gameplay or Sonic's SA1 gameplay, Tone should be around Unleashed's tone, the story can either go for the classic "Sonic stops Eggman or something more for all I care, and while I want the other characters beside Sonic, Tails, and Eggman to a certain role to the game other than cheerleaders.
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>>161711590
Sorry.
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>>161711307
I want a game that really celebrates who Sonic is. Embrace all that he is as a character and create a game and story around it. That is all I ask.
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>>161711889
It's cool, anon.
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>people wanting boost

Don't get your hopes up, they already confirmed that they are done with boost.
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>>161711637
Not even Gold?
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>>161711949
She's a carpet muncher
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>>161695272
how is Ella Spanish?
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>>161711949
>Gold
Let's not go there.
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>>161711949
>Tfw Gold is a hero and not the Sonic version of Emma Frost back when she was evil (At least I think she was evil at some point, I'm no x-men guy)
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>>161712131
Actually, come to think of it, Gold would look a lot better in something akin to pic related rather than that stupid robe thing
Granted, you'd need to cover the clevage and maybe fiddle with the colors a bit but this costume could work. If not this then maybe one of JEEEEEEEEEAN's costumes
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>>161712016
She looks and talk like a Mexican maid. Wasn't she a black maid in the subbed version though?
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>>161711528
>Never played it, but was Lost World seriously that bad?
I found it underwhelming and disappointing. Not an outright trainwreck, but I just didn't like it overall from the art style to the way Sonic controlled.
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>>161713690
>art style
Never liked the art style or the redesign of the badniks
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>>161714012
>That Crabmeat
It looks like a baby toy
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>>161711528
LW is fine. Its flaws were just overexaggerated because its Sonic and saying Sonic games are bad is the new cool thing to do (still)
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I just finished chapter 20 of TGT and it is legitimately the best thing I have ever read

Archie is dead to me
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>>161711817
>Something other than cheerleaders
So bonus missions then? I'm down for that. Having them be cameo missions like Gens could work. You have them in those for people that care about friends and people that hate the friends can ignore them
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>>161711817
I would love to see Sonic's friends made playable again, but made optional like in S3&K, so people that don't care for characters other than Sonic don't have to play as them in order to beat the game.
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>>161714464
>LW is fine. Its flaws were just overexaggerated because its Sonic and saying Sonic games are bad is the new cool thing to do (still)

Sonic Lost World is bad. Sonic controls and moveset are weird and clunky in that game. For some reason Sonic moves faster going left and right then going up and down. So when you turn right to jump you'll get flung off and die because you weren't expecting to suddenly get faster controls. The Run button was a bad idea, the control is way to analog, Sonic walk speed is to slow, so you will be holding it the entire time but
the run also triggers the parkour so Sonic will stop and do a slow clunky animation to vault over small obstructions all the time.

Then they added the Kick, and in attempt to make it not redundant to the homing attack. They made it required to defeat certain enemies like the Antlion Badniks. All it does is confuse the player. Enemies here don't visually show what they're weak to. Even the classic games would have spikes or a shield on the portion of the body you can't attack. But here they don't. Here a CrabMeat needs to be kicked twice or spindashed to be defeated even though other games you can jump or homing attack on them just fine.

And then went and also added a Charged Homing Attack. Which confuses the moveset and gameplay more. Sometimes you want to do a simple homing attack but Sonic will target every enemy sometimes even behind him so you will fly forward pop a badnik then fly backwards, sometimes to your death. There's even a boss which requires you to charge up your homing attack higher then it can usually can go. Just to land a final hit in attempt to be cinematic. But all it does is confuse the player. I've seen playthroughs where people where stuck there for several minutes trying to figure out how to land the final hit alternating between kicks and homing attacks.

There's more but the post is long, Lost World is a mess.
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Anyone else find the Toot Toot Sonic Warrior lyrics to be really motivating?
https://soundcloud.com/sonicxve/you-can-race-anything-all-star

10 - 10 Here we go again!
9 - 9 Don't fall behind!
8 - 8 Say, don't be late!
7 - 7 Destination heaven!
6 - 5 Stay alive!
4 - 3 Now it's you and me!
2 - 1 We're gonna have fun
Say, blast off! Hey!

Excalibar - It's not that far
What do ya make? - Give & Take
Goin' home - Time Zone
Check out Egg - He's never alone
Leather'n Lace - Get in place!
What do y' get? - Say, fast jet!
Doom Room - Cosmic zoom
Heads up, Jake - It's Sonic boom!

Toot, toot, Sonic Warrior - Toot, toot, Sonic Warrior
Your hour is near at hand,
You've got the power to save the land!

Take a little chance - Slip on through
Y' gotta survive no matter what you do
You gotta do for you

Toot, toot, Sonic Warrior - Toot, toot, Sonic Warrior
The power is in your mind
To save the planet and conquer time!

Toot, toot, Sonic Warrior
Deep in space and time
Toot, toot, Sonic Warrior
Forever in your mind!
Nothing can survive, the will to stay alive
'Cause if you try, you can do anything!

Toot, toot, Sonic Warrior
Always takes a chance
Toot, toot, Sonic Warrior
Never says he can't!

Nothing can survive, the will to stay alive
'Cause if you try, you can do anything!
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>>161709392
And the next arc will be the same thing a third time with lost world.

Is this all the comics are now?
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>>161717569
I kinda hated it at first because I was like this isn't Sonic Boom, but it grew on me. Still not as good as Sonic Boom though.
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>>161717569

Toot Toot Sonic Warrior > Sonic Boom
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>>161718828
Muh Japanese soundtrack.
The Jap OST is overall better but not that song. You are objectively wrong.
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>>161718914
Toot Toot Sonic Warrior is the better song. Sonic Boom is too damn serious.
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>>161719023
>Sonic Boom is too damn serious.
>To damn serious
What?
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>>161718914
Not too fond of the opening version of Sonic Boom because it sounds kinda empty (could've used at least one extra guitar or something) and the singers don't have the energy that the singer for both JP songs has. The ending version is great though.
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>>161718914
>The Jap OST is overall better but not that song
Pleb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N--kDI8M7A
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>>161719194
Cosmic Eternity > the rest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrqXpYwS9nI
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>>161719194
>it sounds kinda empty
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>>161719259
It's the best for that intro alone.
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>>161719259
The instrumentation sounds so much like something you'd hear in an 80s or 90s anime intro.
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i haven't been here for a few weeks due to my browser and antivirus refusing to let me go to 4chan because it was insecure or something.

what have i missed?
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Step aside kids.
It's time for a real Sonic song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l68-kfSdpOM
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>>161719924
Furries crying that they can't post porn on a blue board.
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>>161719924
Lewd, shipping autism and mods nuking threads.
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>>161719924
>looking trough the archive
so i guess the "everything should be silly" guy has finally been dethroned as the spergking of this board. is that other guy a regular or does he just show up every now and then?
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>>161718828
I disagree, sonic boom is superior.
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Looks like we got an update on that Fulop/Archie case and things aren't looking so hot, with SEGA now being claimed as a defendant and there now being a counterclaim on Fulop.
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>>161722607
What's all this then?
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I always liked that riff Sonic would play on his guitar in Sonic Underground. Not the singing.
Like in that first episode and he's in Uncle Chuck's workshop just riffing on his guitar. I always liked the way that sounded. They play it a couple other times in the series, but it was great background music. I wish Underground music had been more like that.

It's simple, but I'd like to see someone do a cover of it.
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Any good Sonic inspired games other than Freedom Planet?
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>>161723848
>good
>Freedom Planet
Does not compute.
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>>161723848
Spark The Electric Jester
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg7GKpRNDmY
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>>161723923

1. Nice pic.
2. Yea I wasn't too hot on Freedom Planet either. Hopefully the new one is better.
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>>161723936
Same dude who made before and after the sequel.
He realized he could be making money off that shit.
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>>161723923
It is a good game.

>>161723936

Not released yet, right? I am excite for it, that dude's Sonic fan games are ace.
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>>161724223
So that explains the jester head from Kirby. That guy has a serious hardon for Kirby.
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Holy shit I just had my mind blown.
I always though 06's mach speed zones were the first little hint of what would become the boost mechanic. But wouldn't Heroes' special stages actually be the earliest example of that?
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>>161724302
The first hint of the Boost mechanic is Sonic Advance 2 which became then they refined into Sonic Rush.
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>>161724295
Kirby is life.
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>>161724295
Yeah I thought the Kirby powerup in Sonic was a little silly but those games are still really good. The music alone makes them worth playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXuKF65yrJ4
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>>161711637
:^)
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>>161724859
>Shipping Silver with Blaze
>Thanks to Sonic 06 everyone associates Silver with Blaze and that game instead of Rush
He's really tumorous, huh
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>>161725071
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>>161725113
See kids "weed" only slows you down, that's why Sonic never does drugs.
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>>161725113
>not flat
HERESY!

>>161725218
But Sonic does speed.
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>>161725303
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>>161725303
The only thing Sonic is addicted to is chilly dorgz.
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>>161725350
>>161725350
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>>161725350
So fat.
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>>161725303
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>>161724631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ujmpRCPryo
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>>161725508
Awkward Blaze is superior Sonic.
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>>161725721
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Don't got anything with Blaze, but Nights is purple, so that's basically the same thing.
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>>161725787
I guess that works
>>161725809
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Our faces when the UPS man finally shows up with that statue.
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>>161726140
Rush was a good game but I still don't agree with you
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>>161726214
I agree Rush is a good game. And I agree to disagree about Silver.
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>>161726272
So we agree to disagree and stop shitting up the thread?
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>>161726330
I'm running out of images anyway, plus this thread is inactive
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>>161726392
I was as well. It was a war of attrition
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>>161725787
>>161725883

YESSSSSSSSS, more NiGHTS pls
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>>161726437
If only real wars were fought like this
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>>161726565
There'd be less bloodshed
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>>161726565

Black Knight had the best Sonic
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>>161726626
There wouldn't be any at all
>>161726645
Yes it did
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>>161726746

>>161726645
Also probably Griffith's best performance before getting the boot
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>>161726815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZvzA4sefxE
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>>161727054
gg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h51Vp5Jfxmo
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>>161727202
gg
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>>161726392
>>161726437
L-LEWD!
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>>161727334
Hot
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>>161727482
Blaze is not for lewds but cutes!
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>>161727952
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>>161717879
>he still thinks Lost World is about to happen
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Banish flat chicks
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>>161728871
Cats are flat.
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>>161728842
The comics have been building up to it, anon.
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>>161729029

Ian straight up said that it's not happening anytime soon, and if it did, it'll be offscreen.

I wouldn't be surprised if it happened during Genesis 2.
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>>161729385
Okay
We need more Madonna preferably with Sonic
>>161729385
FLAT CAT
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>>161729375
Then ask Ian why he's been putting references to Lost World in the comic since Champions.

>"Wendy, did you finish that mission where you located the conch from Lost World and the lost hex from Lost World so that I can control the Zeti from Lost World and have I mentioned Lost World enough times yet?"
>"Yeah I did all that off-screen, there was nothing there at all, let's drop this with no resolution."
Not happening. It probably won't be a straight adaptation, but you can bet your ass the Conch, Lost Hex, Eggman's life stealing machine and the Deadly Six will appear in the comics relatively soon.
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>>161728971
Not all cats are flat, some have nice baps.

>>161729530
Agreed I will draw some when I have the time. I've been kept busy, I have not forgotten those requests from the other thread.
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>>161729530
Blouge is OTP
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>>161729716
More like splooge.
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>>161729796
God damn it I was thinking that just as your post popped up.
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>>161729712
Cool, like this icecream
>>161729716
It's a high tier
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>>161730023
I kind of dig the theory that there are two Madonnas, considering how different they are.
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>>161730142
Appropriate filename.
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>>161730142
Maybe
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Molecular biology is Sanic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_hedgehog
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>>161730380
"It controls cell division of adult stem cells and has been implicated in the development of some cancers."

Sounds about right.
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>>161730359
Double the fun
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>>161730631
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>>161730631

Aye

When I have the time and skill I'll draw Classic and Archie having fun together
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Thread is getting too lewd. Post cute!
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>>161730380
>>161730487
>The gene has been linked to a condition known as holoprosencephaly, which can result in severe brain, skull and facial defects, motivating some clinicians and scientists to criticize the name on grounds of it sounding too frivolous. They point to a less humorous situation where patients or parents of patients with a serious disorder are told that they or their child "have a mutation in [their] sonic hedgehog".
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>>161730856
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>>161722607
Where'd you see that?
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>>161730856
Elise is cute
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>>161730926

DELETE THIS
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>>161731175
no
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>>161722607
>SEGA now being claimed as a defendant
If this is true then Fulop just fucked up massively and he's fucked.
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>>161731343
>holding hands
>On a blue board
M-MODS?
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>>161722607
What's the story behind this?
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>>161730926
>>161731343
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>>161731451
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>>161731539
>>161731530
S-STOP THIS
SHADOW IS A PURE AND UNTAINTED EDGELORD
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>>161722607
I am not a professional legal anon.
I'm just a simple country bumpkin. A retard, just like you good people.

So can you explain this in layman terms?
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>>161731598
>shoots aliens
>shoots at officers
>says DAMN
>knows how to use every gun
>Works on cases for basically Mobius's FBI/SWAT team
>Is an edgelord

He might not have fucked the dead but he's not pure.
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>>161722607

> Archie will die in your lifetime

Feels baad
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>>161731598
>Shadow
>Pure
Pick one he was Maria's bike, he's all used up now
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>>161731530
>filename
Shit, I remember that.

Did that anon ever come back?
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>>161731812
>Shit, I remember that.
What happened?
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>>161731624

they dragged Sega into it and now Fulop McPenders is going to get his ass handed to him and Archie may lose the license
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>>161731889
An anon actually got legitimately triggered in the medical sense by that picture, because it brought up childhood memories of a female relative pulling the "it's only a game!" trick, and he didn't realize it was abusive until he saw the picture and put it all together in his head.
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>>161731530
DELET

I wonder how that anon is doing
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>>161731963
Ah fuck.
Oh well, if Legal Anon can get his hands on the minutes of the court battle then at least we can have a laugh at Fulop being assblasted into dust to help us get over Archie Sonic dying.

To be fair though, Mega-Drive outsold more than was expected, and Archie Sonic is hanging in there as a continuous source of a bit of pocket change, maybe Sega won't kill them.
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>>161731992
Holy shit, I gotta find that post
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>>161731992
Oh god what.
Jesus christ, hope he's alright.
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>>161732141
I don't know anon, If I let someone else was helping to generate me a little bit of money with one of my properties but kept poorly managing it to the point of getting me dragged into some shit I'd probably pull the plug on them. I don't know much about legal stuff but I'm pretty sure going to court is an expensive procedure and I don't know if SEGA are willing to have to deal with it every couple of years.

I realy hope I'm wrong though, I don't think the series would be the same without good ol' Archie.
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>>161731992
Babysitter, not relative.
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>>161732602
Sega themselve suck at legal shit. They'd be quite the hypocrites if they revoke the license.
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>>161732712
Not him but
>Implying they care about being hypocrites
>Implying any buisness cares about being hypocrites
wew
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>>161732847
I'm just sayin', hedgemaze.
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>tfw this is /sthg/'s 3rd Christmas

https://youtu.be/4CQLUFz13fU
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>>161732978
Bump is cute
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>>161732987
I hope we have a comfy Christmas thread this year. Last year we were in the despair of the hiatus. At least Flynn and Gray stopping by brought some cheer.
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How would Pender's version of Bump and Sage be like?
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Best case scenario is that if Archie loses the license it gets picked up by IDW, though if they do pick it up there's a large chance there will be another reboot and the FF probably won't be in it, given Archie has exclusive license of the characters and said license would have to be remade if it would go to another publisher, and the fact that the FF weren't going to be in the reboot originally and Flynn had to fight to keep them in.
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>>161733419
They're not echidnas or gender/clothing swaps of existing characters, or echidnas who are gender/clothing swaps of existing characters, so he never would have made them.
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>>161733450
Given how popular the FFs will be, I doubt they'll be dropped so easily. The post-reboot characters (Egg Bosses, Relic, Meropians, etc.) I don't imagine would survive.
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>>161689847
>>161714012
They really did want the Mario audience, those badniks wouldn't look out of place in 3D World.
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>>161733450
>Archie has exclusive license of the FFs
I don't think that's correct, given that they were also used for the cartoon.
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>>161733825

Sonic X's characters (especially Cosmo) are arguably more popular nowadays, and SEGA still dropped them like a hot potato.
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>>161733825

I dunno, last time I checked ever since the reboot SEGA of Japan have had a bigger influence on the comics current goings-on, and they aren't very big fans of the Western non-American cast. Also given Mega Drive's massive success using just the game characters and how Flynn stated on his old forum that the FF wouldn't survive in their own book without Sonic, I can see them getting ditched.
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>>161734363
Licensing issues.
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>>161734363
Sega has a thing about keeping continuities separate. The games, X, the OVA and the comics are all separate things. But if the comics just went to a new publisher then there's no problem.
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>>161734416
In that case, I suggest that we appeal to the Meme Man directly. He seems to have a fondness for the comic and he's got some serious pull these days.

Also, I love Mega Drive and all, but I think it just isn't sustainable in the long run.
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>>161734416
Ian knows the FF are the weakest part of the comic
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>>161733450
And nothing of value would be lost. Finally we get a comic about the games
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>>161733450
>and the fact that the FF weren't going to be in the reboot originally and Flynn had to fight to keep them in.
Mind giving a source for this fact.
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>>161717879
Yup. That's all they'll ever be. They need to just drop the act, drop the OCs, and become full ads because that's what they're becoming at this rate
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>>161735063

Flynn stated so on his Bumbleking forums, but the forums don't exist anymore.
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>>161735270
>but the forums don't exist anymore.
Yes they do, you just can't post anymore. Everything is still viewable.
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>>161734818
Then why doesn't he fix that by making them different from their pre-reboot incarnations? Why reboot the universe and keep them the same instead of changing them drastically
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>>161710776
>For all we know he could be insignificant.
It's gonna be funny if this is the case and people still bitch because now they wanted to play as him.
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http://live.playstation.com/
Should we be excited?
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>>161735063
>>161735270
I actually went looking.

I don't know if Ian has commented on it, but Gray did almost exactly 3 years ago.

http://www.bumbleking.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6973&p=372637#p372637
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>>161737691
>yfw Marvel vs Capcom 4
>yfw Parappa
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>>161737691
For Sonic? Likely not. We know we aren't getting Project 2017 info until next year from what Aaron has said. Whitehead has said they are keeping the rest of Mania under wraps until next year, as well.
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>>161737978
I'll only be excited when the roster pops up
>Rocket Raccoon reveal for Mahvel
>Tyrant reveal for Capcom
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06er here. Just beat iblis. Flame Core is a piece of shit and yes I can presumably say THAT ramp kept killing me and you'll know what I mean.
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>>161738283
The wall running bit?
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>>161738345
yeah. that was like a 50/50 on if it actually killed me or let me run the wall.

Also beat iblis and still don't know how to tell the difference between hard and soft footholds?
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>>161692673
> the most sunk ship that ever sunked in the history of sunk ships
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>>161737691
Oh shit it's starting
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>>161725113
Cute
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>>161714012
I hope we don't go this way again with the art style.
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>>161739248
Well, at least currently, all signs point to not using it.
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>>161737691
>Sega showing off Sonic on a Playstation day
>Playstation allowing a Sonic game to be shown as one of their "Best showcased"

Doubt it. Maybe Shenmue if it's got anywhere, but won't be much else.
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>Unfarted
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MAHVELLL!!!!!!1
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>>161729574
That doesn't mean they're going to adapt Lost World. You can have elements from a game show up without adapting it. Or do you think every time Bean and Bark show up they're adapting Sonic the Fighters?
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>Mahvel Infinite
Sounds like a mobile game.
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>>161731380
Did he? Penders did the same, it was Archie that insisted on keeping Sega as far away from the problem as possible.
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>>161733450
>if Archie loses the license it gets picked up by IDW

I'm sick of people saying this. It would never happen. If Archie lost the license it would not be given out to anyone and any comics Sega makes would be made in house. Enjoy comics written by Pontac and Graff.
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>>161740267
>I'm sick of people saying this. It would never happen. If Archie lost the license it would not be given out to anyone and any comics Sega makes would be made in house. Enjoy comics written by Pontac and Graff.
It'd probably sell better since it doesn't have OCs and it'd have a new #1
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>>161740267
True, there's not necessarily any reason to think IDW would be able to pick it up outside of wishful thinking. But Sega doesn't seem to have any problem licensing out Sonic to TT and Lego Dimensions.
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>>161731992
top fucking kek anon
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>>161731992
Guy sounds like a total fucking beta desu.
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>Knack 2
This is like Sega making an 06 sequel
Oh wait
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jesus, Uncharted keeps getting more boring than before.

literally 90% of the demo walking and the last 10% of scripted fighting.
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>Yakuza 6 coming to the West
Oh shit!
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HE'S BACK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fbO2-egZ3U
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>>161742294
Why does it look so slow
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>>161740470
>But Sega doesn't seem to have any problem licensing out Sonic to TT and Lego Dimensions.
Because the Lego Company probably paid them a lot of money. Not to mention Lego obviously is bigger than a (mostly) US exclusive comic.

And there's the chance of Sonic getting into a Lego movie.
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>>161742294
Looks like there really will be a Crash general.
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/sthg/ - Sony General
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>>161742395
Because it's

A. Still in development
B. Very little of it shown
C. The gameplay footage is sparse and interrupted with slowed down moves from Crash's model to look more cinematic.
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>>161742529
>Still in development
It's a literal remaster.
It SHOULDN'T look slower at all.
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>>161742604
It's actually an HD remake from the ground up. Probably because Naughty Dog or Universal owns the source code.
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Name 1 Sonic game better than this masterpiece.

Shadow the Hedgehog 2, when?
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>>161742751
Sonic 3 and Knuckles
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>>161742751
>Name 1 Sonic game better than this masterpiece.

Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine.
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>>161742751
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>>161742751
Also hopefully never, it was kind of bad
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>>161742440
Sure, but it seems that a) Sega was content to license out a Sonic comic for years, as it presumably made them some money and b) they are willing to hash out new deals if they see a profit in it. I wouldn't completely rule out an IDW comic, even if it's not as much a guarantee as rumor would lead one to believe.
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>>161742751
I literally can't. So underrated.
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so no hope of sonic 17 being shown today right
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>>161743053
Then we shall look forward to the Sonic & Horses crossover.
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>>161743076
Next year, anon.
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Sonic Boom fans

Season 2 Episode 3 here:
https://mega.nz/#!u0RUmBZA!um4NWBRwm9ixPfFWJGpZHk_PiFzrbPfqBWj2g7pSMNc



cheers
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>>161740054
Penders tried suing Sega and Bioware first, which got thrown out of court. Then Archie sued him individually. Fulop had a chance suing just Archie individually because they were reprinting old issues that had "his" characters, but by dragging Sega into it he's going to get rammed up the ass because he has absolutely no case against them.
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>>161743998
Do you have one that doesn't have Teen Titans Go plastered on the top?
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>>161744560
>No case against them
Unless Sega's storage warehouse also had a fire? Kidding, it seems that contract-based argument was a poor tactic to begin with; they'll probably argue precedent in licensing of some sort?
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>>161723848
Amy looks really cute in this image.
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>>161742751
Sonic Heroes

>Shadow the Hedgehog 2, when?
That depends on what this sequel will be like. If it's exactly like this game, then no. If it's less edgy, less swearing, less shitty gameplay, more fun, more Team Dark teamwork, then yes.
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>>161744817
The fact that it's a licensed comic insulates Sega from this. They don't pay Archie to make the comic, Archie pays them to use Sega's characters, so any legal shit is Archie's problem. The most he can do is claim that Chronicles "plagiarized" "his" characters the same as Penders argued, or that Mega Collection had "his" characters as part of the comic gallery, but both fall outside the statute of limitations.
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>>161738183
>Tyrant
Implying it wouldn't be some forgettable bullshit from the later games. Birkin would be a pretty sick replacement for Nemesis.
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>>161743998
is this dolphin porn?
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>>161746036
Nah it's just Sticks.
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>>161746036
NO
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>>161742294
Are we entering some kind of era of rebirth for the 90s mascot race?
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>>161699807
>I don't care how unpopular that opinion is, it's the right opinion
That's not how opinions work
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>>161746316
Whoever does the pencils in the current art can do a better job
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>>161746364
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
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>>161746513
Well, none of the artists are exactly good. Then again, if they were good, they'd work on something that wasn't Sonic, probably at Image or the Big Two
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>>161732141
Mega Drive did sell well.
The main comic isn't doing that hot.

It's ironic considering the main comic is literally doing a simular origin story to mega drive
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>>161742294
Yep, sticking with the originals.
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>>161746596
>Well, none of the artists are exactly good. Then again, if they were good, they'd work on something that wasn't Sonic, probably at Image or the Big Two
That's a good point.
Have there been any people throughout the comic's lifetime that have done really well and then jumped ship to a bigger brand?
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>>161746696
Well, Mega Drive is better than GOAH.
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>>161746596
>probably at Image or the Big Two
Like Doxy/Onta or Greg Land.
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>>161747158
Mega Drive > Genesis >>> GOAH
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>>161747015
No because most people that do Sonic do it out of love.
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>>161747015
>Have there been any people throughout the comic's lifetime that have done really well and then jumped ship to a bigger brand?
No. There's been Marvel and Image artists that stopped by the book to do art but they were shit, so it could be argued that their popularity either waned or they were never good to begin with. Let's face facts, if anyone (Writer or artist) on the comic got an offer to leave the Sonic comic work on a comic from Marvel/DC/Image they'd take it in a heartbeat. But since none of them are good enough to do that, they're staying on the comic. The truth is, they're only on the comic because that's all they can do or were offered to do
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>>161746696
Because Mega Drive, despite being an origin story, is still more original than the Genesis one.
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>>161747263
That's what they say, because telling the truth i.e "This is the only comic that would hire us" is really bad PR
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>>161747263
>they do it out of love
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>>161747285
That is pretty much why Archie hires fanartists. Not only are they cheaper, there's a lesser chance of them getting contacted by bigger publishers. And even if, they might still stay with Archie since they are Sonic fans.
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>>161747285
What about Jon Gray? He was an artist for this comic until he was hired by Disney to do art for the comic
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>>161747650
Exactly. They only get them because they'll work for less and won't get hired by anyone else due to a lack of skill
>>161747669
That is true. Funny thing though, the moment he left he trashtalked the shit out of it. Shows how much he "loved" Sonic
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>>161747485
Keep your tinfoil to yourself, buddy.
>>161747669
He quit before getting hired by Disney. That dude hates Archie and their management.
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>>161747669
*their comic
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Looks like shitposter-kun is back. Please do what's right and do not reply to bait.
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>>161747780
>Keep your tinfoil to yourself, buddy.
I assume this is the only comic you've ever read, because this isn't just the story with Sonic, but with every indie publisher. The only reason people work for them is because they can't get leverage with DC/Marvel
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>>161748168
Bizarre plotlines aside, I think this art is much better than what I've seen more recently
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>>161748294
The comics back then were a lot better in general. They had actual drama and stakes and shit
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>>161748168
That's some detailed fucking drawing compared to >>161746316
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>>161748168
>That art

wew lad
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>>161748407
If only the artists on the comic now had any talent. The comic was a lot better when it was trying to be its own thing, rather than being a proper Sonic comic, because it at least tried to be interesting rather than "Look at this thing from this random game"
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>>161748540
>>161748398
The mods can see you samefagging, you know
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Ben Bates and Ian Flynn worked on Marvel's New Crusaders.
Tracy Yardley hasn't really done anything "big", per se, but he did pencil and ink a manga-esque graphic novel for Tokyopop around the same time he started on Sonic, so he's no stranger to other companies.
Jon Gray does plenty of work for Disney.
ABT is the only one who hasn't had work for a major company, but he's still done some art for an indie comic called Devastating Roulette.
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>>161748624
Don't forget that Herms does some sick work on the Power Rangers comic.
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>>161747770
He loves Sonic, he hates Archie. Huge difference.
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>>161748398

Now you're just being silly.
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>>161748624
>ABT is the only one who hasn't had work for a major company, but he's still done some art for an indie comic called Devastating Roulette.
>Doing work for indies
Wow he's so talented. Not like any shitter with a stylus can do that
>>161748618
Doesn't change teh fact that I'm right. At least back then they tried
>>161748723
No I'm not. Back then they had tension ,stakes, and characters developing. The comics have none of those now. It tried to be more than just a Sonic comic, while the reboot is settling for being so shit that we'd be better off with it being a literal advertisement
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>>161748043
>The only reason people work for them is because they can't get leverage with DC/Marvel

Well the people that work at DC/Marvel don't work there because of their talent. Just cause they happen to know someone that works there.
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>>161748802
K
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>>161744794
unfortunately unless someone captures a re air of this episode no
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The reboot has mainly been lacklustre because it's been bogged down in Unleashed's shitty story.

Universe is objectively the better comic.
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>>161748983
They're both crap because neither has tension, stakes, or character development
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>>161748983
I'm honestly so tired of talking about "the reboot" as a comparison to other things that I really just don't care anymore
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>>161748983
Universe has had the better stories (Shattered, Silver Age, etc) & that's because it's telling original stories. That's why I'm looking forward to the FF arc.
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>>161749075
>I'm honestly so tired of talking about "the reboot" as a comparison to other things that I really just don't care anymore
What we need to do is stop talking about the comic and just go back to posting the comic.

Requesting somebody to dump Worlds Unite
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>>161748168
What issue is this
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>>161749254
>What we need to do is stop talking about the comic
FTFY. If you post the comics or even mention them this shit will happen. Just stop talking about them and the shitposter will go away
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>>161749254
>/vg/ post timer
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>>161749389
Are you implying classicfag vs Boostfag wars are any less cancerous than preboot vs reboot wars?
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>>161749392
What?
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>>161749630
Not him, but all "A vs. B" wars are fucking toxic.
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So the HD version (aired on CN) of Episode 2 and 3 have aired.

Anyone actually catch it and/or managed to record it. I'm sure a lot of use would like to watch them.

There's actually an upload of episode 3 that's in an okay quality but constantly keeps skipping.
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>>161749630
No, it's just that we can get rid of comic discussion, but we can't really get rid of game discussion
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>>161748540
Funny enough, Kaminski hired a bunch of experienced outside artists for Worlds Unite while shoving the comic's regulars on the side books. The side books ended up having the best art while the so-called "talented" artists were shit.
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>>161749797
The bedroom eyes in this fucking show need to stop because it's clear they're never going to actually do anything suggestive in the show so they need to stop teasing me
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>>161749857
True, but at least near the end, WU got Tyson Hesse to do the finales. The plot was still a massive clusterfuck though.
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Are Archie Comic's days numbered?
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>>161750197
Maybe, maybe not. Who knows?
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>>161749857
Ron Lim was proof that just because you can draw for cape comics that you'd be any good drawing Sanics
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>>161750197
Hopefully. It'd probably be cheaper to make them in house and the gamefags would be happy since there'd be no OCs or continuity. It'd probable be more akin to the Boom TV show or the Sonic channel comics. Just the game characters doing stuff in one off comics
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>>161749967
What's so suggestive about that expression? She looks more annoyed than flirty.
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>>161750353
I seriously don't see any of the cape artists being able to draw a cartoony character unless they actually experienced drawing those characters besides the realistic ones.
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>>161749797
Here>>161743998
It's legit.
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>>161748624
New Crusaders was Archie. Flynn hasn't worked for a publisher outside of Archie other than a couple issues of IDW's TMNT comic based on the Nick toon. He's chained himself to a comic that if it goes under in the near future, he'll have nothing.
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>>161750896
Like I said before, he (Nor are most, if not all of the artists on the comic) isn't talented enough to work on anything but Sonic or really low profile indy stuff that barely matters
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>>161750831
Thanks, now we just need episode two in "not Boomerang/uploaded to Youtube with obnoxious watermark" quality and we'll be good to go.
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>>161751051
give me a second and I'l up it to mega for ya :)
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>>161751204
You sir are doing god's work.
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>>161750896
>New Crusaders was Archie
Okay, that's my bad. I honestly though it was a Marvel thing.

But that doesn't mean he'll have "nothing." Maybe he can chain himself as a possible writer for IDW's TMNT: Amazing Adventures. Maybe he could even write for the main comic. People like Yardley and Jon Gray prove that relatively unknown artists can still be hired for big projects. Ian, Yardley, and the rest will simply move on to another comic. And keep on moving on until they find something they're proud to do.
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>>161751375
You're implying anyone else would hire these people when they could just hire people with actual talent
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>>161750434
I bet he'll love this.
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>>161751204
Just out of curiosity, where are you getting these TVRips.
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>>161750831
>>161751528
What game is this?
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>>161751528
>basically furry alex jones
i love sticks
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>>161751698
Sonic Heroes 2
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>>161752291
Sega should let the fans make 3D games too. Just disband whatever the fuck Sonic team is and let Taxman do 2d games, and whoever did Utopia make 3D games
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>>161750197
I think Archie Sonic's days are, but I've been thinking that since the original lawsuit anyway.
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>>161752439
maybe
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>>161752439
>>161752576
Meh. While GHP and Utopia are alright games, they are pretty clunky and barebones.
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>>161752803
They still play better than anything Sonic team's made, so honestly we'd be better off with letting the fans do it. Plus they'd have a much bigger budget presumably
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>>161746696
Mega Drive is a standalone special and a "#1" issue which usually gives it way more attention than the established #280 something issue of the mainline.
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>>161752803
>they are pretty clunky
Not really.
>barebones
Yes, but then they are fan projects.
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>>161752439
What Utopia has and GHZ is a tech demo sandbox.
Very good fun to play sandboxes mind you.

But game design, difficulty curves, making the game fun and all that jazz, I'll admit Sonic Team hasn't dont stellar on for a bit but it's a bit of a stretch to say two sandbox creators should make the next Sonic game.

Well, until 17 hits anyway. If 17's a flop, I'll just cry and hope they make Adventure 1 remastered or some shit.
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>>161752803
I see way more potential with Utopia Demo then Modern games, it feels like Sonic Team hit a wall. And how is it clunky
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>>161751375
He obviously already put himself out there for a regular gig on Amazing Adventures and didn't get it. A few of the writers for that book were offered the current Batman/TMNT Adventures crossover. I wouldn't be surprised if Flynn pitched for that and didn't get it either.

Ian has spent ten years on the same comic that he has no stake in and pitches his strengths as a writer as referencing old stuff and doing whatever his employer needs him to do. It's no surprise he's stuck on Sonic.
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>>161752950
>But game design, difficulty curves, making the game fun and all that jazz, I'll admit Sonic Team hasn't dont stellar on for a bit but it's a bit of a stretch to say two sandbox creators should make the next Sonic game.
But here's the thing, with an actual budget and more time you could turn those tech demos into something great, and it'd end up better than anything Sonic team made
>>161753118
>Ian has spent ten years on the same comic that he has no stake in and pitches his strengths as a writer as referencing old stuff and doing whatever his employer needs him to do. It's no surprise he's stuck on Sonic.
So basically he's stopped giving a shit and is riding on nostalgia and the fact that nobody will really replace him? Sounds about right
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>>161752914
"Sold well" also being relative. Mega Drive's first printing sold less than April's #280. That's how badly the main book has nose dived in sales.
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>>161751346
>>161751563

https://mega.nz/#!H1xWzQDZ!orHYMS1ns9VbE7On1hWlrxnYi7xe0v9pBazRoE1s7aI


from private trackers like btn
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>>161712753
>mexican
>spanish
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>>161753462
>"Sold well" also being relative. Mega Drive's first printing sold less than April's #280. That's how badly the main book has nose dived in sales.
Just cancel it or reboot it with a new #1 already.
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>>161751051
>>161753512
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Guess I'll be the odd one out and say I wasn't too impressed with Utopia, largely due to the openness of the levels and also just that I'm kinda tired of everyone trying to make Classic work in 3D when I personally would rather have it stay 2D and have the 3D games have their own identity.
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>>161753225
That's a very bold statement to make.
One, Sonic team made Sonic 2, secondly, how do you know that trying to put all the Sonic things in, such as good underwater sections, tight platforming (which both kinda suffer from) enemies which you can't just bypass by running around them from a 30 mile radius and decent bosses will work with this.
You might have to change the mechanics of the game significantly or then give up on what makes a Sonic game a sonic game.

Don't get me wrong, Sonic Team have had problems finding this balance themselves, but they're riding on trying new things, what the creator of this fangame is doing is trying to get the classic gameplay in 3D, and as such should be help up to a bit of scrutiny is all.
I find Utopia fun as hell, and GHP, but as fun concepts.
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>>161753720
Have you seen all the Sonic 1 fan games? Why does everyone always do Sonic 1?
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>>161753720
I'm not a fan either. It's really not that special, but I think it's okay. What made me almost hate Utopia was the constant threads about it on /v/.
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>>161753720
>largely due to the openness of the levels
That was just to have lots of stuff to explore and fling yourself off of, to show off the physics they said the real levels will be more focused
>I'm kinda tired of everyone trying to make Classic work in 3D
They said the next stage they design will be original
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>>161753720
You're not alone. Personally, I think anyone who believes Utopia or GHP are better than Generations and the like are full of themselves; the design flaws and lack of meaningful content outweigh the so-called "potential" that only exists in a hypothetical context because people put way to much hope into developers that have a fraction of the experience real Sonic devs do - mistakes or no mistakes.
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Someone better be recording the new ep as we speak.
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>forced reboot three years ago
>forced crossover clusterfuck that nobody wanted in the middle of the big rebuilding arc
>comic on hiatus for months a year ago
>forced nostalgia pandering arc right now
>"clearly the comic is beyond saving"
No, they'll be fine once they get past the current nostalgiafaggotry and have some actual breathing room again without Archie's behind-the-scenes retardation getting in the way.
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>>161753894
Probably because it has the most documentation and thus is the easiest to do.
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>>161754050
see
>>161753512
>>161743998
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>>161754036
Of course Generations is a full official game made with a budget. When most people talk about it being better they're talking about the mechanics and physics , and wish this is what the official games evolved to controlled like from adventure.
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>>161754164
>No, they'll be fine once they get past the current nostalgiafaggotry and have some actual breathing room again without Archie's behind-the-scenes retardation getting in the way.
You're implying that the comic won't go right into a Lost world arc after the FFs are done, and they'll stall long enough so they can do all of Mania, then all of 2017
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>>161754354
The new ep. As in the one airing right now.
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>>161754370
It's already been confirmed that there won't be a LW arc.
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>>161754370
It's already been established that they're not going to do a hard adaptation of Lost World. What they'll do is adapt elements from it in a looser way that allows for more creativity and better written stories than Pontaff's shit.
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>>161754431
you're not telling me they did three new episodes in a day are you?
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>>161754442
>>161754454
With all the buildup we've had, we're gonna have one. Besides, the reboot is all about adapting the games. We've already had 2 adaptations, and GOAH is basically 4 more
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>>161754365
That's where the conflict begins to arise. Everyone has a different opinion on what Sonic should play like (you can thank SEGA's blatant fanbase division tactics for that), so naturally there's going to be an even number of people for and against the open world mechanics presented in Utopia and GHP. All I'm saying is, don't put all of your eggs in one basket and expect the best from mediocrity.
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>>161753512
You are a saint Anon, A SAINT!
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>>161754556
Um, Anon, you don't have Boomerang, don't you?
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>>161754787
ah good old edits
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>>161754819
I don't

>>161754804
anytime
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So /sthg/, I've been wondering: what would Sonic be like if it was owned by another company?
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>>161754942
virtue signalling: the franchise
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>>161754704
If the Lost World "adaptation" is in the same vein as the Unleashed and Fighters "adaptations" then we'll be fine.
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>>161754928
Well join the club. I don't have Boomerang either.
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>>161754942
Nintendo would've made Sonic so much better
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>>161754942
He wouldn't be blue.
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>>161755036
>virtue signaling: the franchise

?
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>>161755162
>We already have a racing game with Mario Kart so no reason to have F-Zero
>We already have a platforming game with Mario so no reason to have Sonic
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>>161754942
He'd be more vulnerable.
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>>161755083
Honestly given the shit the comic got for all the OCs in Unleashed it'll probably be more akin to Genesis of a Hero. The OCs will only show up in the very, VERY short timeframe between adaptations, just to remind readers that they exist
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>>161754704
I thought this was the case because of all the foreshadowing, but Ian himself said in his podcast he wasn't planning on LW for the time being. Maybe he's lying to keep it a surprise, or maybe he's backtracking after the icy reception the Unleashed adaptation received.
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>>161755264
>We already have a RPG game with Mario & Luigi so best make Paper Mario an action-adventure.
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>>161754753
>open world mechanics
No, the game is not supposed to be open world it has a ending and only one ending. Its just a big level to show off the physics the real first level is going to be more linear but still have alternate paths.
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>>161755036
They do give suggestions, they're just very, very, VERY bad solutions.
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>>161755365
>or maybe he's backtracking after the icy reception the Unleashed adaptation received.
Probably this.
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>>161755264
>We already have a platforming game with Mario so no reason to have Sonic
Exactly
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>>161755365
>Maybe he's lying to keep it a surprise, or maybe he's backtracking after the icy reception the Unleashed adaptation received.
Probably the former. There's no way that the comic which has spent it's entire time doing adaptations is going to stop any time soon. If anything, the upcoming FF arc will probably be more about foreshadowing Mania and Lost World
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>>161712753
She was just a maid in the original anime. The dub turned her into a Spanish maid.
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>>161753939
It wasn't just on /v/, it was everywhere, even the "gaming media" reported on it, which of course used it to shit on the franchise. I love the fanbase and that it produces awesome stuff, but it really wore me down how dense it got. It was no different than that fad some time ago of people putting characters in some realistic SDK level and everyone else wanking over it. Happened with Sonic too.
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>>161755365
Yeah he said it on a podcast, & here.
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>>161755606
That's not the game fault that's the Media, people talk about things they like and then they share it.
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>>161755506
How is an arc set after the events of Generations (and Unleashed/Fighters, to a degree) going to foreshadow an adaptation of a game that takes place way before. Besides, most of the arc will be about developing the Freedom Fighters, and giving them backgrounds and goals that aren't tied to Sonic or Sally.
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>>161755323
>Honestly given the shit the comic got for all the OCs in Unleashed
Nobody in the creative staff will give a shit because the Unleashed "adaptation" was a broad long-running status quo used as an excuse to travel the world and reintroduce everything lost in the reboot. It was never meant to be a proper adaptation.

A better example of an actual game adaptation would be the Champions arc, where it had basically no similarities to Fighters besides being a fighting tournament and Honey existing. So extrapolate from that and the Lost World """""adaptation""""" will have some plot involving the Deadly Six but you're not going to get cartoony funtime worlds or Tails being an ass.
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>>161755753
>How is an arc set after the events of Generations (and Unleashed/Fighters, to a degree) going to foreshadow an adaptation of a game that takes place way before
Something something genesis portal and Classic Sonic pops through or some shit
>The FFs will develop and get goals not tied to Sonic or Sally
How about giving them actual personalities. Because outside of Rotor and MAYBE Antoine, none of them have any
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>>161755506
Foreshadowing doesn't always payoff. Especially when it can be resolved by saying "Go play Lost World to see what happens next."
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>>161755745
I didn't know that. Well in that case, he wouldn't lie to US... would he? Any caps of that?
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>>161755912
I was going to type personalities, but I thought they already had pretty good ones. But yeah, they'll probably be given more personality due to the extended screen (panel?) time compared to the main book.
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>>161756005
No caps, but I do remember his answers to some of he questions we asked him. For example:

When asked when we'll get an Amy, Blaze & Cream arc, he said that he has long term plans for the comic, but in the future it could happen.

When asked when Clove & Cassia be killed off, he asked "why show them mercy?"

etc.
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>>161756145
>but I thought they already had pretty good ones
But outside of Rotor and Antoine, none of them have any. Nicole's a generic AI, Bunnie's personality begins and ends at her accent, Sally swaps between competent leader and crybaby at the drop of a hat
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>>161755978
Good thing that will literally never happen.

>but the current arc
Is mandated nostalgia pandering that's retelling four games at the same time.
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>>161756282
>I don't know what personality means
You're thinking of character traits, which is completely different.
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>>161756404
Fine then, tell me what their personalities are. Because I've been reading it, and they have none
I guess Bunnie is "Nice", but so is everyone who's not a villain in this universe so that counts for jack and shit
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>>161755912
>giving them actual personalities
This is paramount. I like the the FFs, but none of them have a "voice". Except maybe Antoine, I guess.

The background is there for all of them, I'll definitely credit Ian for laying the groundwork for rich character development. But how would you really describe, say, Rotor? Post-reboot, he's had flashes of pragmatism putting him in conflict with his team, but not enough to really define his personality - he's the big tech guy. Ian's got great ideas - what we need now is someone with great characterization.
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>>161756507
>This is paramount. I like the the FFs, but none of them have a "voice". Except maybe Antoine, I guess.
Honestly the problem is that they're all basically their pre-reboot selves and inherited their development. Why reboot the universe and keep them the same. If anything, reset them and take them on different development paths. Like did we really need Antoine and Bunnie to be a thing and Antoine to become brave?
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Do we have to continue with this shit Discussion?
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>>161755162
>Nintendo would've made Sonic so much better
they'll just do repeats of Sonic 4 and Lost World and shut down fangames in spite of that
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Its shit like this that makes me wish the comic was discontinued
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>>161756790
Honestly, the discussion now is nowhere near as bad as the last few days.
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>>161756790
It should be discontinued anyways because it's basically an ad for the games at this point, and it's not doing a good job of that either, what with it tanking
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>>161729716
Is he gonna grab her by the pussy?
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>>161694307
There was a poll asking what crossovers people wanted to see. One was DBZ
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>>161756494
Bunnie's is definitely the weakest because of how general being nice is. She's warmed hearted yet she still teases. Not much more than that but it fits almost any situation. Saying everyone is nice is downplaying just how caring she is.
Sally is roughly the same she's always been. Snarky go-getter that tries to be cold and centered but can't help but care. She lacks confidence but does her best anyways.
Nicole is in a blind spot and she always has been. Outside of immense suffering she hasn't done anything but spill spaghetti trying to be understanding of normal life. Her personality will develop more when she gets more spotlight, which is rare since only a few characters drive sales.
What Ian needs is time and he's already 3 months behind because of WU.
>>161756507
Rotor has probably grown the most personality since the reboot out of all the characters. He's cynical, sarcastic, but goes out of his way to help anyways.
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>>161756363
289 literally ends with "Now go play Sonic 2 to see what happens."
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>>161755264
>>We already have a racing game with Mario Kart so no reason to have F-Zero
kinda cute F-Zero babies keep boogeymanning F-Zero's brother series, Mario Kart, when the fact nobody gives a shit about futuristic racers in the modern age unlike stuff like Transformed.

basically like saying they should can Star Fox or don't do KIU2 because Kirby has railshooter segements now.
>yfw GX sold worse than X and MV
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>>161757181
Nice job failing at basic reading comprehension genius.
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>>161757138
>Bunnie's is definitely the weakest because of how general being nice is. She's warmed hearted yet she still teases. Not much more than that but it fits almost any situation. Saying everyone is nice is downplaying just how caring she is.
Amy's still the bighearted one, as is Sonic, so again she has nothing that really stands out. More than anyone she needs a personality overhaul, but, at least to me, that'd require a general character overhaul spawned from a minor backstory change
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>>161757230
honestly, they should can Star Fox for all i care.

after Zero, i really don't wanna look forward to how they'll fuck up a repeat of Assault or do yet another attempt to bring back SF2 in a another form.

and good luck convincing Sakurai to do a sequel that isn't Smash.
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>>161757350
Amy is spunky and enthusiastic but she only really cares that much about Sonic. Bunnie shows essentially motherly love to everyone without discrimination.
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>>161757270
You seem confused.
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>>161757565
>Amy is spunky and enthusiastic but she only really cares that much about Sonic. Bunnie shows essentially motherly love to everyone without discrimination.
Read Shattered. She's super nice to Knuckles. She's a generally nice person, so Bunnie doesn't even have that unique thing going for
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>>161757565
She cares about Sonic the most, but we've seen her care for other people. Like with Knuckles in Shattered.
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>>161757138
See, I realize where you're getting these personalities from, and you're not wrong. Certainly there are moments and actions written to convey these traits, but they don't affect on me an emotional level (nor many others, apparently).

The only thing I can suggest is stronger choices. Exaggerate these personalities, if only a bit. No one is questioning what Eggman's personality is. I know that's because he's over the top, and that doesn't fit everyone, but it helps establish clearly and viscerally what these characters are like in a series meant for children. Not the bland sort of serious-ish writing the FFs usually receive.
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>>161757170
Any more low-poly stuff?
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>>161757646
>>161757654
She's friendly but not even on the same level as Bunnie.
>>161757669
>stronger choices
It'll happen again given time. It happened before.
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>>161757669
>The only thing I can suggest is stronger choices. Exaggerate these personalities, if only a bit.
Or give them different, more unique ones. Like crank up Nicole's sarcasm to 11, or make her really carefree and naive
Perhaps Bunnie, instead of being outgoing and super kind, can be shy and averse to talking to others. Or she can be someone who loves getting into a good tussle to the point where she punches first, asks questions later.
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>>161757628
If you can't be bothered to actually read the post you're replying to then I'm not going to be bothered explaining it.
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>>161757170
I wish there was a proper Sonic game on Saturn, this aesthetic is everything.
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>>161757489
>repeating Assault
>when they can repeat 64 again
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>>161757993
So you need an adult?
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>>161757961
This exactly.
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did you rike it?
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>>161757961
One could be sarcastic and the other loves to fight.

So unique.
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>>161757961
>Like crank up Nicole's sarcasm to 11
That's Rotor.

>or make her really carefree and naive
I don't see how that would fit at all with Bunnie's character or make her fun to read.

>Perhaps Bunnie, instead of being outgoing and super kind, can be shy and averse to talking to others.
The whole entire point of her character development in the reboot is that she's no longer shy. Why should she be shy when she has tons of friends and a caring husband?

>Or she can be someone who loves getting into a good tussle to the point where she punches first, asks questions later.
This actually seems like a good idea. Give Bunnie an eager tick once or twice.
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>>161758314
Hey, giving Bunnie a fight happy personality would make her stand out more than having her be "the nice one" in a setting where that trait is pretty much a given
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>>161758429
Define "fight happy"
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>>161758421
>I don't see how that would fit at all with Bunnie's character or make her fun to read.
That one was meant for Nicole
>Why should she be shy when she has tons of friends and a caring husband?
I'll give you that. My idea for making her that would involve a general overhaul, so it's not that viable
>This actually seems like a good idea. Give Bunnie an eager tick once or twice.
Thanks. She'd be the kind of person to get kicked out of a bar after beating up everyone there. Including the bartender. And the jukebox.
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>>161758429
That's already Sonic. He's brash, headstrong, and quick to rush in without thinking. You don't need Bunnie to be the same.
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>>161758569
>That one was meant for Nicole
Oh, my bad. Yeah, that actually would make her a bit more standout. A carefree friend and assistant of the Freedom Fighters.

You know, you're acting a lot more mature than that other guy(s) who wanted to overhaul Bunnie. Or, if you are that guy, then I think you've grown in the values of discussion and reasoning.
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>>161758559
She's the kind of person who loves getting in fights. I guess the best comparison would be, I dunno, Goku.
>>161758676
True, but Bunnie's eagerness to fight would be absurdly high. But like you said, Sonic's like that
I dunno anon, you got any ideas for changing/fixing Bunnie's personality
>>161758804
>You know, you're acting a lot more mature than that other guy(s) who wanted to overhaul Bunnie. Or, if you are that guy, then I think you've grown in the values of discussion and reasoning.
Thanks. I've seen those guys try to force their views down people's throats, and christ that was a shitshow.
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>>161758676
Anon wants Bunnie to be a bit more "fight happy." Sonic, while brash and headstrong, is only so under the face of what he considers to be evil or douchebaggery.
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>>161758868
I wouldn't put her drive to fight to be on the level of Goku but I could see her enjoying a good tussle.
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>>161758868
Bunnie can still be the nice girl, you just need to make her the emotional support of the entire team instead of generically nice.
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>>161758948
Exactly. The idea would be that Bunnie's first reaction to meeting someone would be challenging them to a spar or asking how strong they are. I'm trying to differentiate her from Sonic
>>161759019
That could work, but the thing is, it's not exactly something that's immediately standout, especially for an action comic
>>161759013
Well, maybe not on Goku's level. She wouldn't risk the planet over a fight, but it would be her favorite pastime
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>>161759137
>The idea would be that Bunnie's first reaction to meeting someone would be challenging them to a spar
That is horribly OoC. Maybe if she has the opportunity to fight with someone she would be happy to take it but not always be lusting about it. We're trying to give a character nuance, not reshape who she is.
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>>161759019
This. Make her the pillar of the team, the solid foundation that holds up no matter how beaten their spirits are.
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>>161759281
>That is horribly OoC. Maybe if she has the opportunity to fight with someone she would be happy to take it but not always be lusting about it. We're trying to give a character nuance, not reshape who she is.
Well we kind of are. I mean isn't the whole point to improve their personalities. She'd still be nice, but that wouldn't be the main aspect of her personality
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>>161759137
In a comic where everyone else's personalities are overdone (as they should be), being "the supportive one" is in and of itself a legitimate personality trait as long as she's the only major character it applies to. Kinda like how Shadow being "the serious one" lets him be the straight man to someone else's wackiness. Bunnie being "the supportive one" lets her fit in perfectly as everyone else's major supporting character. Not everyone has to be in the spotlight all the time.
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>>161759281
I'll agree that's more of a change for the character, but I think you have the problem backwards: all the characters have right now is nuance, without a clear attitude from which the nuance should grow.
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>>161759440
Honestly, Bunnie being the emotional support is an odd trait to give her.

I do love the ide of her being kinda fight happy, because that kinda fits her personality more, imo.
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>>161759382
Why change what doesn't need to be changed? Just add nuance where it's needed. Make her the emotional support but also make it so she enjoys a good fight without lusting for them.
>>161759530
>all the characters have right now is nuance
Wrong. They all have a core without the little things that make them stand out more. They're simple and that works but everyone would enjoy that core to expand.
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>>161759382
I don't see what tacking a cliche on top of her personality is meant to improve.
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>>161759616
idea*
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>>161759616
>Honestly, Bunnie being the emotional support is an odd trait to give her.
Not really. She's had plenty of stories making it clear she's everyone's best friend, pre and post reboot, and having undergone the whole partial roboticization thing gives her a base that legitimizes a "yeah you're going through some tough shit, and I want to help you get through it" mentality.
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>>161759616
This. She's the peppy girl of the group with the massive strength, it makes total sense for her to love fighting shit
>>161759740
Makes her stand out more.
>>161759440
>Bunnie being "the supportive one" lets her fit in perfectly as everyone else's major supporting character. Not everyone has to be in the spotlight all the time.
Yeah, but it makes it so that when she does have the spotlight, she doesn't have much going for her
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>>161759616
Why wouldn't being the emotional support match her? She's shown caring dearly for her team, and she's much more levelheaded than most (save for that one stupidly OOC backup story from the early reboot)
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>>161759661
>no nuance
Antoine is a coward except he's not anymore because he found love but he still struggled with bravery sometimes but he's good at heart.
Sally's the leader who strives to be confident but is unsure of herself but cares deeply for her friends but is also kind of lonely etc.
This is nuance. And as it stands now, it's boring.
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>>161759827
>>161759884
True, but I don't know, when I think of characters that fit as the emotional support, I never really thought of Bunnie.

Not saying I'm against her being that, but she just isn't the first character I think of, when I think "Sonic character as emotional support."
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>>161760080
>Antoine is a coward except he's not anymore because he found love but he still struggled with bravery sometimes but he's good at heart.
And there's no real struggle here. No real place to go. He's a brave guy, now what? What can you DO with him now
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>>161759864
>Yeah, but it makes it so that when she does have the spotlight, she doesn't have much going for her
She's a character that excels best when she doesn't have the spotlight. Thicker Than Water is a perfect example: the basis of the story was her relationship with Beauregard and needing to find a way to salvage the situation, but the spotlight was still more on Sonic and the situation was resolved based on their friendship and status as adventure buddies. And that's perfectly fine because this is still Sonic's comic, everyone else is just there to give him a supporting cast.

>>161760192
Just because he's not a complete coward doesn't mean he can't still work as part of a team. He's still the hesitant one, the one who says "maybe this is a trap" or "maybe we can do this in a smarter and safer way." Plus of the cast he's the most "normal" of the bunch, the only thing he has going for him is his swordsmanship, so he's good for "in over his head" stories.
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>>161760080
I know what the characters are. You listed two characters that actually do have a little nuance. But that doesn't cut it. And it's boring because those nuances have been played out to death. Antoine showed his ultimate bravery when he stopped Metal and got bombed for his kingdom. That nuance has already had it's greatest arc. It's used up.
They need more nuance to mix and match and play with, otherwise they'll just keep beating ones that are used up like Antoine's cowardice/bravery inner conundrum.
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>>161760420
>They need more nuance to mix and match and play with, otherwise they'll just keep beating ones that are used up like Antoine's cowardice/bravery inner conundrum.
Perhaps give Antoine something new? What should that be?
>>161760415
The problem is that even though that's true about Bunnie, that means that she can barely function on her own as a character. She needs something more to work
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>>161760541
Fuck if I know. I don't really care about Antoine so I wouldn't know unless I went back and read up on him more.
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>>161760420
I think we might be agreeing more than we realize. Antoine as written has pretty much been used to his fullest potential, is what we both seem to think.

I think the difference lies in me thinking the characters' most basic personalities need to be sharpened, while you believe they should be more complex?
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>>161760541
>The problem is that even though that's true about Bunnie, that means that she can barely function on her own as a character. She needs something more to work
False, this type of character has been done well in other works before. I'm not saying Bunnie should be just there doing nothing, I'm saying she should be there backing everyone else up. Tons of room for her to work as a character.
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>tfw skim through FF dialoague and only really pay attention when a game character is the focus
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>>161758980

bootiful
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>>161760770
>False, this type of character has been done well in other works before. I'm not saying Bunnie should be just there doing nothing, I'm saying she should be there backing everyone else up. Tons of room for her to work as a character.
But again, you're saying that she's there as back up. The moment she even gets something to do on her own, there's nothing to do. Even just adding something like "She likes to fight people. A LOT" would do wonders for her
>>161760871
Why read the comics then?
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>>161760729
They do need to be more complex. You can't really sharpen personalities as general and simple as they are right now. Nuance can either begin and grow until it comes to a head in an arc or can simply be something they have that gives them a fault or flaw in their character. Bunnie liking a good fight and accepting an invitation or challenge to one could lead to her falling into a trap she otherwise wouldn't, etc.
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>>161761026
I more skim through the retarded drama the FF brings. But the OCs that aren't the FF in the reboot are usually pretty good
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>>161761026
>The moment she even gets something to do on her own
The comic is Sonic the Hedgehog, not Bunnie the Rabbot.

And even in stories like Spark of Life where the FFs are the spotlight, it's never one or two of them, it's several characters together so that the spotlight character has other characters he or she can bounce off of.
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>>161761260
>The comic is Sonic the Hedgehog, not Bunnie the Rabbot.
I get that. But sometimes there will be backups that focus on other characters, and coming up in the Universe arc it is very, very, VERY likely we're getting a Bunnie solo issue, so this shit is relevant
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>>161761514
And I addressed that: in every time a character has the spotlight, it's never alone, they always have at least one other character, usually more, to bounce off of.
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>>161761594
So then we better hope that that Bunnie solo issue never has her alone for even a moment then, right?
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>>161761260
>The comic is Sonic the Hedgehog, not Bunnie the Rabbot.
So then should every other character constantly wonder where Sonic is?
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>>161761774
Well, kind of. I mean, the comic should be about Sonic, why leave him out of his own comic?
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>comic writes established pair arcs like Sonic/Tails, Bunnie/Antoine, Sally/Nicole, etc.
>THESE INTERACTIONS ARE BORING WHY DON'T THEY HAVE MORE VARIETY?
>plan arcs with more diverse/underutilized pairings like Antoine/Sonic, Tails/Bunnie, Sally/Rotor, etc.
>THE CHARACTERS AREN'T NUANCED ENOUGH, THEY'D NEVER STAND UP BY THEMSELVES
This fanbase is just as unpleasable as the stereotype makes us out to be.
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The problem is less the individual characters and more the fact that the team doesn't really act like an established team. You can give the individual members roles as part of an ensemble and let their individual characterizations flow from those roles.

Rotor is the big-picture pragmatist. He favors the blunt and direct approach, and it shows in his tech: grand-scale machines like the Sky Patrol and heavy weaponry. His biggest blind spot is looking at the finer details, but he can also help the team stay focused on the mission instead of getting distracted by minutia.

Antoine is the cautious, hesitant guy. Not a complete coward, at least not anymore, but he's always in favor of taking the more subtle and less risky approach. Obviously this means his weak spot is facing danger head-on, but by being cautious he also analyzes the details and can help fine-tune a plan.

Bunnie is the heart of the group, and most focused on everyone's well-being. She favors the approach that helps the most people as possible. Above all else she's the one that makes sure the heroes stay heroic instead of overlooking others.

Nicole is the logical computer. She still sees everything in terms of 1s and 0s and will question decisions that don't conform to what she believes to be the most efficient course of action.

Sally is the leader. They really need to cut the "oh I'm so burdened" crap because this is just making her a weak character. She should be the captain of the group, taking everyone's suggestions and formulating as good a plan of action as possible given the circumstances and what they know.

Sonic is the Ace, the Sixth Ranger of the group. He'll be headstrong and independent, and instead of falling into a strict team dynamic like the others, he should be with them but not of them. Sally takes into account what he'll do, but knows it's impossible to try and hold him back so she works the rest of the team around him.
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>>161762508
Because the fanbase is wording the complains wrong.

>THESE CHARACTERS ARE BORING
is what it should have been.
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>>161761774
That sounds like Sonic X.
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>>161762620
Giving them more nuance only allows for them to interact in new and interesting ways with each other.
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>>161762909
Nuance can flow from their roles and individual characterizations. But they need to establish the ensemble dynamics first as a foundation and then build off of that. Right now it's just Sally says a thing, everyone agrees, then story happens.
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>>161763042
Except for the parts where she interacts with someone less willing to do something, like Rotor, and they clash.
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>>161763157
They clash for maybe a panel and the other character ends up going along with it. Case in point being her and Rotor's team-up story.
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>>161763157
>>161763349
The other characters really need to undermine Sally a lot more. Have something happen that makes them all stop listening to her and believing in her. Basically break the team and have them seperate for a while and when a new threat emerges, Sally tries to get them back together, but struggles immensely
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>>161763349
>b-but that doesn't matter
It does a lot for characterizing our heroes. Making out like they don't matter is a disservice to the people on the comic.
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>>161763512
That seems very unlike them to entirely stop believing in one of their friends and then not be willing to team up when a major threat emerges.
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>>161763521
...that's exactly what's going on right now and I'm suggesting ways to make them matter.
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>>161763889
True, but you could have say, something revealed about Sally that makes people question her loyalties, or have her make a mistake that makes 266-267 look harmless in comparison. Basically something that really shakes everyone's faith in her, including Sally herself
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>>161762620
Wow, Antoine and Rotor would work really well together...
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>>161763902
Firstly, you're wrong. Secondly, having more of them would be an easy fix rather than causing something silly to happen.
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>>161764073
we already know Sally is a retarded fucking slut that cant cook to save her life, what more do you want
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>>161764290
They're the most obvious, but giving them basic ensemble traits can do wonders for fleshing them out, because then the writer can just say "What's a situation where these two or three people would disagree? Let's write that and explore why they'd disagree." It works like that for every good ensemble cast.
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>>161764494
An actual character struggle that truly forces her to mature. Or just breaks her and makes her go "Fuck this and fuck you"' and tries to fight Eggman herself. It ends about as well as you expect
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Where's the episode, Eggman?
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>>161764712
>replying to bait
This needs to stop.
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>>161764403
I think you think I'm a different guy suggesting something else. I'm not saying the characters shouldn't be nuanced, I'm saying the team dynamics need to be better established because it's a lot easier to let characterization and nuance flow from that.
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>>161765102
And I'm saying nuance only leads to better interaction between characters.
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>>161765392
For fuck sake, what is wrong with your reading comprehension.

>I'm not saying the characters shouldn't be nuanced
>I'm not saying the characters shouldn't be nuanced
>I'm not saying the characters shouldn't be nuanced
>I'm not saying the characters shouldn't be nuanced
>I'm not saying the characters shouldn't be nuanced
Do you need me to babysit you more, or are you actually just illiterate?
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>>161765559
What's wrong with yours? Solving the lack of nuance will naturally allow them to play off of each other better, solving the lack of characters interacting as meaningfully. Don't reply to me again with idiocy.
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>>161765794
And having good team dynamics makes that easier. You're basically just agreeing with me.
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>>161766072
And those dynamics are limited by lack of nuance. We agree on what we want the end result to be but we disagree with how to go about it.
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>>161766232
>And those dynamics are limited by lack of nuance.
False. You can have a solid foundation while still lacking nuance. Tons of good ensemble shows have done that in the past. By having a solid foundation it's easier to then apply nuance to it.
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>>161766384
>False.
Wrong.
They already have a solid foundation. What they lack is nuance. These characters have been interacting for almost 300 issues of the main comic with relatively little change from start to finish. If you want better team up interactions then the characters need more depth to them.
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Brb, gonna make the new thread.
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>>161756005
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/156644743/#156725161

>So are you just going to skip over Lost World? Like, show the lead up, then skip to the end, with a "To see what happens, play Sonic Lost World' citation? I was honestly hoping for a Lost World adaptation so that we could see you 'fix' the story, such as the characterization of Tails.

>I'm not sure just yet, desu. It'll be part of the continuity for sure, but I don't know how much page time I want to devote to it. I'm also not sure how much liberty I'd be given with it. (You'd be surprised the kinds of notes we go on "Shattered World.")

>I'm toying with the idea of saying "It happened," and move straight to making the Deadly Six as cool as possible. Or I might change my mind and tell it straight. I dunno - we'll see.
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>>161766384
>>161766575
My god, guys, you're basically on repeat using the same arguments for your side every post. It's clear neither of you is going to convince the other stating the same things over and over again.
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>>161762620
This was very well done, bravo. I do wish you had continued listing the blind spots for the rest of the characters and included Tails and Amy. I don't feel Big and Cream are necessary since they are fairly tertiary.
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>>161766575
List off the current roles of the characters, both in-universe and in terms of their personality traits. Describe their purpose and what they bring to the team, their interactions and how they bounce off of each other. I'm not asking for anything too detail, just brief basic explanations.

Truth is, you can't, because the team foundation is not there.
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>>161767048
Maybe they shouldn't be a team then. Maybe the problem is that having them as a team limits them. Maybe it'd be better if they just went off on their own and did their own thing. Like Bunnie and Ant do their own thing, Sally and Nicole their own thing, and Rotor's off to the side doing whatever. They'll occasionally see each other, but they won't be part of a team. What does having them as a team actually do in terms of character? Why do they need to be a team in the spotlight. Have the comic focus on Sonic and his adventures, with the FFs making very, very occasional appearences. They won't get grand character arcs. They'll do their thing, and then they disappear into the background until the next time they show up. That's how the comic should handle OCs really. Don't linger on them or focus too much on them. Have them just be people Sonic runs into on occasion, Sonic fixes their problem and then moves on to the next one. It makes for much more expedient storytelling and adds a lot of variety
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>>161767475
>Have them just be people Sonic runs into on occasion, Sonic fixes their problem and then moves on to the next one. It makes for much more expedient storytelling and adds a lot of variety
I guess I should give an example
>Oh no Cassia and Clove are in trouble and likely gonna die
>Sonic kicks Eggman's ass and saves them
>They thank him and Sonic moves on to the next person
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>>161767048
I can but I really don't feel like writing you an essay on something that is observable in the even just the last 40 issues and especially so in the large span of issues written by Ian before the SGW. If the team foundation was not there, they wouldn't be a team in the first place. Ignoring what exists does not make it magically not exist, my dude.
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>>161767475
>That's how the comic should handle OCs really.
The FF's are official SEGA characters, though, not OCs. They might only otherwise be in a cartoon and have a small cameo appearance in Spinball, but they are owned by SEGA.
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>>161768305
They're still not game characters and not under mandates so they're essentially the same
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>>161768228
I'm not asking for an essay, I'm asking for the pure basics. You can summarize that shit in one sentence each.

>If the team foundation was not there, they wouldn't be a team in the first place.
This is wilful blindness on your point. Just because they're a team in-story does not mean they're a good ensemble when you look at it from a storytelling perspective.
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>>161768785
They are and have been numerous times in the past. Have you not read Ian's work before the reboot or something?
>summarize one sentence each
This is still requiring me to write an essay on how each character interacts with each character and what they mean to each other. I'm too bust as it is trying to get ready for work tomorrow, study for finals, play vidya, and keep up with the Crash, Marvel, and SFV happenings. You picked an unlucky time to toss this one on me.
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Yes I know it's a bit fast but we were nearing the bump limit anyways.

>>161769169
>>161769169
>>161769169
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>>161769171
>Have you not read Ian's work before the reboot or something?
The characters now are not the same as they were pre-reboot. If they were then Antoine would be recovering from a recent coma experience, Bunnie would no longer be a cyborg and coming to terms with how she feels useless as a result, Rotor would be a fat broken guy struggling to use his tech to make himself productive, and so on. And you can't even say the basics are the same because the basics of the ensemble dynamics changed even throughout Ian's run.

I fucking wish Sally was the same as she was pre-reboot before being roboticized.
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>>161769428
>The characters now are not the same as they were pre-reboot.
Characteristically, they are. In fact, in Antoine and Rotor's case, they're both more than they were before the reboot. The only one that really got the nerf stick was Sally and she honestly needed it.
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>>161769228
You couldn't have waited until we actually hit 750?
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>>161769798
>5 posts
so basically you are saying is
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!
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>>161769798
Dont worry ill make the superior thread
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>>161769798
Anything past 740 is fine, really.
Rather we have a thread up to go than rushing one at the last second.
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to autosage we goooooooo
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>>161770319
MIGRATE
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>>161770061
I just asked a question, dumbass.

>>161770204
Yeah, but at least we won't have two threads bumping like last time.
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>>161770407
Why would you make another one, you fucking dolt?
>>161770471
You spoke too soon. Seems one anon is retarded.
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>>161770407
Why did you make a second thread?
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>>161770524
Cuz I can BITCH
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>>161752439
>>161752803
Honestly I think they shouldat least take example from the physics of utopia. It does a lot of things right. Specifically the way momentum works, and the fact that you can rollin middair. It always bugged me because almost every media showed sonic's ability to do that but in the gamesif you aren't rolled when you jump you can't roll later. That and the fact that jumping hones in on enemies, but only slightly. It's all pretty great. I would certainly to play a sonic game with Utopia physics.
I actually don't like GHP. I think modrn sonic is more fun than that game.
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