/palg/ - Paladins General

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first for buck porn

Overwatch GOTY. Stop playing this shit ripoff.

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>>161621446
>overwanker got so triggered by the miniscule TTK and absurd meta that he had to cool down by shitposting in a different general
wew lad

CASSIE NEEDS A FUCKING NERF

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>No option to uninstall the new anti-cheat shit because Paladins isn't on the list for some reason

This fucking company, goddamn

>>161623317
too late
should have just not installed that in the first place
game works fine without it

>>161623317
So how can I check if this cancer is installed? I'm pretty sure I never installed it, but I just want to be sure. It's not called anything other than EasyAntiCheat in the files, right?

>>161623792
The game will tell you to install it after you click play if you're one of the "lucky" few that got it. I think it's just the EasyAntiCheat folder in the paladins binaries yeah

dead fucking thread lmoa

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>>161628076
ded gaem
ded thread

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>>161620095
Indian fakir character when?

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giant lava demon character when

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So what exactly happens when the new anti-cheat detects a cheater? It installed yesterday and today I'm getting games that just stop at the beginning of the second round and then get put back in the lobby. I've never cheated so if it's a bug it's new and really weird.

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>>161631695
Nobody knows for sure yet.
But there is a bug that kicks you out of matches at random times, but it kicks you out at the log in screen, not at the lobby, so I'm not sure what causes that.

>>161632885
I remember that picture so well. Gave me the strangest blisters on my palm.

>Every game that I play support, we win
>Every game that I play as anything else, we lose

Is Hi-rez trying to tell me something?

>>161635409
Yeah, supports are op, cauterize needs a buff desu. Level 3 should make heals actually damage the recipient, while level 2 nullifies all heals.

Ded gaem, ded bread?

Just came back after playing 5 matches, and I was on the losing team on every single one. I've noticed that it has gotten a lot more common that I end up with confused retards, while the enemy team always seems to be well coordinated and know what they're doing. Is there any point in playing this game if you're not good enough to carry your whole team by yourself? I'm getting pretty sick of getting steamrolled 90% of the time.

I'll start playing Paladins again as soon as they fix the hitboxes. It's too easy.

>>161639114
never

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>>161639067
It's getting pretty stale nowadays, most of these "coordonated" teams are just good players that had the luck to be matched together or premades, so by example, you had the luck to get a pro Ying and a pro Fernando/Any frontliner that is not Ruckus, that game will be an easy win.

But by following this logic, the enemy team could have more 'good' players, practically obliterating the good players on your team.
There's also the chance that you get mouthbreathing BRs or allies that are allergic to the point.

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>Team gets off horses as soon as they're out of spawn.
>Walk all the way to the spawn point
?They fuck is this shit?

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Why is Pip so fun to play as? Furry fuck is more of a flanker with a healing skill, rather than a support, and it's fun.

>>161620095
aiming is easier in this

>>161640672
>someone picks Pip
>people won't take support because its already taken lol
>if you go tank there isn't enough heal, if you go support there isn't enough damage/flankers
Fucking cancer.

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Man, my team was definitely good. I was Evie.

>>161641521
>implying Pip isn't enough with his fuck-all ult every 30 seconds
What I think you fail to realize is that Pip is a DD AND a Flanker at the same time, plus you dont need TWO legit flankers.

>Make alt
>try to add main acc as referrer
>"Referrer cannot newer than referred account."

???

>play a game with Ruckus
>Meh performance
>lose
>somehow get PotG
>it looks fucking awful
I've literally never been happy with how one of mine looks, so thanks for forcing everyone to sit there and watch me act like a retard, HI-REZ.

>>161643479
if you give me your main name I can still add you as a referrer I believe, If you want to add mine in return TettaVolante is the name

>.... gain 10% CC reduction
what CC means?

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>>161644917
The problem with Paladins' POTG is not merely that the plays shown aren't as good as they could be, but also that there just isn't enough fanfare to it, or to the end of the match in general. Consider what happens in both Paladins and Overwatch when the postgame begins.

Overwatch
>VICTORY/DEFEAT flashes across the screen with a little flourish
>Cut to a group shot of the winning team in assorted iconic poses
>"PLAY OF THE GAME/MATCH" is announced, with the winning character getting a short 5-6 second cutscene of themselves showing off and being themselves
>Shows the POTG
>Goes to the MVP cards, where players can vote for the best performer for additional accolades (complete with minor character banter)
>Goes to medals and personal performance (the scoreboard, effectively)

Paladins
>VICTORY/DEFEAT blinks onto the screen
>Cuts directly to "Top Play" (no verbal announcement) and shows the winning character just standing around in their default pose silently for a few seconds
>Cuts into the POTG
>Cuts to the match MVPs (measured by Hi-Rez standards, not player standards) and scoreboard

Like it or not, it's another showcase of just how much spitshine Blizzard puts into Overwatch and how it makes Hi-Rez look amateur by comparison. Overwatch's POTG (postgame in general) is simply more engaging and makes people interested in winning it. It's not the case in Paladins, which is why players don't currently care for it. Until you get POTG cutscenes like Viktor diving for cover before popping out and shooting his rifle or Barik dancing a little jig atop his bouncing turret, people don't want it.

>>161645946
Crowd Control. Things like slows, knockbacks, cripples, stuns, and so on.

>>161621446
>Blizzard game
>good

Does not compute.

>>161645946
Crowd Control. Stuns, fear, slows, bleed, healing debuffs, etc

>>161646243
>bleed
>cc
?

>>161646049
Plus Overwatch players can just leave right after the VICTORY/DEFEAT flashes across the screen with a little flourish meanwhile we're stuck

>>161646243
Bleed and anti-heal don't count as CC, last I checked.

>>161646353
That too. Overwatch players can leave the match the moment the postgame begins.

>>161646049
I hate myself for saying this, but one of those products is still in beta and will be for a long ass time

>>161646920
Early acess/open beta culture was a mistake.

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>>161647076
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY

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THIS THREAD WILL NOT DIE, NOT YET, AMIGO.

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>>161648682
>no dragon

>>161648682
>green Cassie
>old Buck

WASH AWAY THE SORROWS ALL THE STAINS OF TIME

>>161647384
Hey, I never gave anyone the permission to use my likeness, who is responsible for this? I'll report them! You're getting downvoted now.

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Do you remember the Grover one? Here's the Skye version

>>161649832
"Grove one" made me think of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zYwRRCytG0

rip

>>161650149
Why the fuck did they rework him to current abomination ?

>>161650457
Because he was "hard to balance" and they wanted to have more crap to fit their new class system

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When will we get a real loli witch hero, that can use spells to confuse people, but also summon familiars?

She could summon a bunny which gives speed to all allies nearby her, a wolf which gives a damage boost to allies nearby her, or a deer which heals allies nearby her.
Her ultimate is an owl, which confuses every enemy in a certain distance around her.

>>161651382
Psh, never, you PEDOPHILE!

>>161652163
You have to go back.

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>>161652163
>CURRENT YEAR
>being a bigot
There's literally nothing wrong with being a pedo!

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>>161652163
>He doesn't like cute girls
What are you, gay?

ded gaem

>>161652535
>>161652370
Alright, alright.
You may have your loli hero.
Except it's pip's little brother.

And a sniper.

>>161653683
And he is a damage dealer

>>161653735
Also we're nerfing fernando.

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>>161653683
>>161653735
WRONG.
She's a H U M A N, a little loli girl that can cast spells and loves sweets and being pet.

>>161653963
Yes. but this is HiRez
You don't get a monkey paw, you get the whole fucking monkey.

>>161655596
So you're saying this could happen?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bozvLUp0f1o

>>161650457
because he was either spasticly op or worthless depending on a few number tweaks.
shockingly enough a melee champ with crazy amounts of mobility, damage, durability and sustain was actualy a terrible design choice.
I agree that current grover is pretty arkward but given the choice I'd rather have the new one than the old one.

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>>161655805
>A character with a design similar to Orendi, but with a better voice

My dick's diamonds.

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Hey HiRez just look at Tera, don't you want that sweet lolicon bux?

>>161656396
No, fuck off :)

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>>161655805
Yes, but pic related as design.
And same cringy wannabe "badass" lines, which would make sense if not because it sounds like a smoking 32 years old brit man trying to do his best girl voice.

Your only bonus is that fernado goes on a sperg-spree when he kills it or gets killed by it.

>>161655945
Just remove his axe and make him a frontline beefy healer.

Here is my meme.
>Tree punch
Melee range with low damage that applies venom, very slow yells "A TREE KILLED YOU! A TREEEEE" if it kills you, any allies hit are covered in thorny vines that grant a small shield and a damage shield to enemies that stand nearby (card)
>Thorny vines
Same as throw axe, but vines, leaves a venom debuff


There, his kit makes sense now.

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What this numbers mean in masterpaladins.com match stats?

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Ever since ob38 this game has been crashing on me so much

Either it makes my screen flicker black for about 10 seconds and then returns to the game or it just freezes my full pc so I have to force power it off

>>161657445
In which party they were. There can be solo parties if someone leaves it and then the leader can't leave it without restarting the game.

>>161657564
Oh, guess it but thought that party only allowed in casual mode.

>>161646485
Yeah I wish we could skip all the play of the game and scoreboard fanfare and just go queue up for another game.

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>>161620095
>tfw people use my crappy OC

>>161651382
This doesn't sound like a barely concealed Overwatch character rip off, why would they make that?

>>161656605
Reeeeeeeee enjoy your ded game then.

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Not saying I'm good or anything but I got some tips for people who play with Grover.

>Memorize places where you can escape with Vine beforehand
>You can climb on the roofs with vine
>Use Vine on other players A LOT
>Vine to low hp person -> heal -> BODYBLOCK
>Did I mention Bodyblocking ?
>If you're dueling someone in mid/close range use your RMB A LOT (especially on that piece of shit Evie)
>Dismount before reaching the point for two or more preemptive axes (600~1k dmg+)
>Annoy the shit out of Kinessa (you can sometimes two shot her or just doing damage will help your flanker)
>Buy Bulldozer against Barik to two shot his turrets
>That Makoa WILL hook you

If you follow these tips you are already the best Grover you have ever seen.

>>161659994
>That Makoa WILL hook you
>Hook myself away

NICE HOOK.

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>>161659994
>Playing Grover

>>161660157
If hook is followed by little damage then yeah but that isn't the case most of the times especially when his empowered attack hits you for like third to half of your health.

>>161660261
>Minutes
>Not meters and slowly backing away

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What's going on in her mind?

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>decide not to play a front line for once after getting them all to diamond tier
amazing

>>161660775
hot threesome?

>>161660775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt47llMalmc
>Playing anything but Jihad Comandress Ying Al·Bashir Muhadir
WE'LL STRIKE A BLOW AT THE POINT.
WE'LL STRIKE A BLOW AT THE POINT.
HERE IS THE NEWS, WE'VE STRICKEN DOWN A FERNANDO AND MAL'DAMBA IS MISSING.

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>>161660775
That strange headpiece Ying has ain't composed of green blobs reeeeeee

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>30 hours
>top 1.8% in wins and kills on guru

Am I good or is everyone else seriously just that bad?

>>161662382
you play vs bots till you reach lvl5
you play vs human trash worse than bots till you reach lvl20

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>>161660480

>>161663062
9/11 it's ok.

>>161662382
the matchmaking its pretty crap i guess he havent matched you with those subhmans who dont use horses
>>161640364

or rush to the enemy straightforward and die repeat ad nauseam

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>>161659092
>Spells that buff certain atributes are now Overwatch ripoffs

>>161663646
reading comprehension.

>>161663646
Dumb anime poster

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>>161651382
Everyone knows that anything can be made better with lolis.

>>161652309
>>161652370
>>161652535
See I knew this would happen, you've gotta stop falling for the pedo bait. God. Just because they're underage doesn't mean it's pedophilia.

>>161665606
paedophiles >>>/OUT/

>>161665993
I just... I can't even... I'm literally shaking right know! how can you be so bigoted!? I cannot believe Its the CURRENT YEAR and people still are this intolerant.

>>161666328
stay away from my children

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>Pop YOU CHALLENGE MAKOA
>Friendly Damba has movement speed buff on his heal

psst

u can run but u'll die tired

nothing personnel kiddo

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Why is this general full of pedos?

>>161666671
Do you realize where you are right now? Every thread is crawling with all types of weirdos lurking around, it only takes a single post to make them reveal themselves.

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>>161665892
>Doesn't mean it's pedophilia

Hebes aren't better than pedos, faggot.

>>161666671
Your fault you baited us with Evie, now we want a true loli.

>>161667004
Don't you FUCKING dare do it!

>push failed
>there are teammates still alive and nearby

die

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>>161667141

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>>161667467
>those FUCKING kinessa players that don't ever get on the point

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>>161667592
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

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shud i get kinessa to diamond?

>get a team of level 20s
>mix of roles
>thisgonnabegood
>they're all russian
>they all buy aggression

you fill in the blank

>>161668601
>Damba is level 0

Shameful tbqhfampai

>>161668807
ive been meaning to play him

but i never found time

and i didnt want to learn in competitive when i have 2300+ elo

i might tank my elo and play snekman if hes fun

>game is fine
>game is free
>be a rezshill
>just like me

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>>161668601
Yes. You'll ruin the day for your allies, but you'll have fun.

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>no christmas skin for Cassie
;_;

>wanna play comp cus casual is too easy
>know that every game I play comp in I get to the stage where it starts to become difficult and its too much pressure for me and I end up losing interest completely

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>>161669215
Same desu

>play
>matchmaking puts me vs a mixture of braindead mongoloids that are terrible and defcon hackpros gangsterthugs who can aim perfectly from any angle and communicate amazingly well and compose deadly teams
I don't get matchmaking. Same with my team. Feels downright random, but I guess that's what happens with so many players and so many champs, things are gonna be very hard to matchmake.

>>161667467
>game is 2-3
>cart is inches away from our base
>our drogoz vs barik on cart
>I'm seconds away from respawning as our Frontliner
>instead of opting to play ring around the Rosie with Barik, drogoz flies up high to pop ult
>no one else is on cart
>DEFEAT
>post-game lobby
>DrogozFag: Wow guys
>DrogozFag: gj
Fucking hang yourself.

>12 w streak in comp
>Get tank that keeps leaving the point
>Don't know how to tell him we lose because of him without being toxic asshole
>Just stay quiet and lose slowly

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the russians are out in fucking force tonight

>>161669952
>toxic

So I mainly play supports, but I can't help being a shit healer on Pip. I usually heal less than half of what I heal on other supports. Ying healing is a no-brainer, Grohk has insane burst healing, Grover is a walking aoe heal, but Pip's is just bad. I think they should give his right-click lifesteal for all allies, but I reckon even then he would be the shittiest healer.
>inb4 he has dps and control
Well then the categories are shit, and there should be a fifth category called "control" or I don't even know - actually, put Pip and BK in there

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>>161673646
the problem with having a category based around CC's is that it will get countered by this one simple trick

>>161673646
Pip is miscategorized. He isn't a healer.

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>>161673862
Yet we have frontliners with wrecker

>>161673646
The classification system is shit

>>161675238
And supports with cauterize :)

>>161675238
resilience straight up nullifies all crowd control at level 3
wrecker only destroys a shield, but you still have to deal with at least 4000 health dude
>>161675331
cauterize only applies for 2 seconds, its not enough to completely blot out heals from someone

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Best girl.

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>if you want balanced matches, you can try competitive and play against other people with the same rating
>or you can play casual and just mess arou- oh wait it's literally competitive without portraits and long pick phases, since you also get a forced ELO number in casual and if you dare git gud you'll always be pitted against players of similar or higher skill level :^)
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea. I wanna start playing my least played champs but I can't because it's gonna put me against 2400 ELO autists in stacks. It's so fucking frustrating. When you click Play, Casual should put you in the same game with the next 9 people who click Play. This way you get a max 10 second queue time and you also get to play with complete randoms and try out new champs without having to give your 100% every game.

I made the mistake of playing 6-7 champs only and now that my Casual ELO is high I can't try any new champs without getting stomped because every game is full of diamonds, masters and autistic tourneyfags who will take advantage of every mistake I make.
>-o-ok let's try bomb king, he seems fun
>mfw bugzy on the enemy team

>>161677409
>implying she could ever look like Junko with that weak ass eyeliner.

She doesnt even look like she despairs

>>161669202
This is pretty cute, maybe next year she'll get some love.

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Drogoz~!

>>161646243
Screw you, The Lost Vikings 2 was perfect!

>>161677428
get good

>tfw only playing paladins because quake champions isn't out

>>161680313
same

im really hoping it doesnt turn out shit

>>161680128
I'm already good. That's the problem.

I just realized that MVP poses can be equipped and used even if you haven't unlocked them. Not the emotes though :(

>>161682327
One time I had Buck's sunglasses equipped without owning them

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anyone else ever seen this
ive only seen this twice
did they fix it

>>161623317
I don't have that shit installed? Is it different if you use the steam version?

>>161680765
yeah I had this problem too actually, I was just memein' ya. I solved it by making a smurf and getting to know what I can and can't do with androxus against them, then steadily climbing until level 15
i'm a pretty good androxus now, not great though

>>161685410
making a smurf and fighting lower elo opponents*

>play game
>enemy team activate that mini ddos every cheater uses
>someone in my team activated it too
>superlag fest tttt!!!111
everyone deactivated it the next match

>>161622693
kek i had 2 teams calling me hacker for playing her
never been called a hacker for any other class

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>>161622693
>>161686356
But, anons, Cassie needs a buff :^)

>>161686592
>Cassie on one team absolutely stomps and rapes everyone
>Cassie on the other didn't get a single kill and died 25 times
Hahahahahaha you can't make this shit up, that's Hi-Rez matchmaking at its finest

>first game of Cassie I play I out damage a Viktor and get all golds
Like Jesus Christ is it necessary for her bow to fire this fast and far

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>>161646049
>>>"PLAY OF THE GAME/MATCH" is announced, with the winning character getting a short 5-6 second cutscene of themselves showing off and being themselves

>>Cuts directly to "Top Play" (no verbal announcement) and shows the winning character just standing around in their default pose silently for a few seconds

As someone who plays both, Paladins' lifeless POTGs feel like they take away from the accomplishment of exceptional plays (when the algorithm actually works).

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Has anyone seen a worse Barik than this?
The average Kinessa player is better.

>>161691987
barik is one of those classes thats always supposed to get a high amount of eliminations due to his turrets tagging a player ad counting as an elimination

its possible that this barik was trying to play flank

>>161692398
Can confirm all his eliminations were all turret chip damage before one of the other players killed us.
He would just set up his turrets nowhere near the point and then just sit and watch the fight.

>>161696518
what pilot

what

>>161694025
Probably a Torbjorn player who doesn't know that Barik plays nothing like him.

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How am I the only one who took Cauterize, between both teams?

Crushing a grover during his ult because -90% is hella funny though.

>>161699479
I accidentally bought Wrecker as Fernando instead of Cauterize in my last match against a Mal'damba and Ying. The enemy team was bad enough that it didn't matter though.

>>161701038
i remember playing against 3 flanks and 2 damagers
our team had a fernando and ying

we lost big time

it has to do more with personal skill rather than which role you picked

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>5 games in a row
>have an instalock below lvl 10 Viktor teammate
>instabuys aggression
>always on higher ground
>can't aim for shit
>became feed to enemy flankers

This world needs to burn

>>161705206
get good

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>>161705368

I'm tired of carrying, mangg. So fucking tired. I just want capable teammates for once.

>>161705732
i know

we all do

>>161668960
I just started playing and I "Main" Mal-DamnSon.
So this may sound retarded but from what I've gathered is Spam Guard, Spam Laser heal on tank, Shot>Reload,Shot>Reload Stun loop enemy tanks. Am I playing him wrong?

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>>161705981
how's your winrate with him?
im at about really low right now even though i do focus exclusively on healing and shit
i just dont understand why its so low compared to grohk, who i have 65% with

>>161706270
never thought to check, to busy having fun. Is that your w/l as in games? Because you can be a good healer and still lose games and vice versa./

>>161706413
i dont know
i feel like im distributing more heals than grohk with a gourd+mend combo every couple of seconds but its either that i suck or i just have really shitty luck

Why can't we chat with the other team?

>>161711218
You can in the postgame results screen.

>>161651382
I want a loli ninja, who throws shurikens and ninja knife.

What's everyone's rating here? 4100+ here.

>Page 10
ded gaem

>>161714427
holy shit
whats it like not being able to have fun

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Why is there no loli hero? Smite has lolies, why can't we have lolies?

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>>161651382
More on this idea:
>LMB: Her weapon is a book, which she reads spells from to channel her powers in a ball in her palm, kind of like the scraped rework for Ying's weapon, the more you channel it, the more damage it does (up to 800 damage)
>RMB: Summons a deer's spirit, healing allies nearby, 200 per second over 5 seconds (1000 healing for the whole team).
>Q: Summons a rabbit's spirit, giving allies nearby a speed boost.
>F: Summons a wolf's spirit, giving allies nearby a damage boost
>E: Summons a owl's spirit, confusing enemies nearby.

>>161715320
Looks like broken Lucio

>>161715830
Can't be as broken as Cassie or Andy.

Ded gaem

>>161714427
3300, it's hard to get by a good team in solo queue.

>>161714427
Prove it. Also, who do you generally play as?

>>161714427
4025 with 4030 Androxus rating.

I play Androxus. All day long.

So what level do you have to be with a champion to play it in competetive?

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>>161714427
the mmr is pretty useless

i just look at the elo on guru

New hero w h e n? This game became so boring after I had to play tank/support 24/7, at least give me the female frontliner.

>>161719467
next champ is a frontliner, but not female
source: cuckbear

>>161720067
Isn't Ymir?

I gotta say, a good Bomb King really fucks ruckus up hard.

>>161720882
A good anything that does damage fucks Ruckus up. That's why you don't run him as solo tank. Ever.

Ruckus is bonkers sustained damage with support capabilities near other tanks. Getting hooked when there's a Ruckus on their team is usually instant death even for max HP Nando

>>161721178
I mean he has 1300 DPS... Andro has 1240. But I'll agree he has a lot of sustain.

>>161720309
ymir was never "confirmed", only stuff referring to him datamined

GOD
CAN I JUST SAY HOW MUCH I HATE CASSIE?
AND BUCK?
AND PIP?
I SWEAR TO GOD THEY ARE THE MOST ANNOYING FUCKS EVER IN THE RIGHT HANDS JESUS CHRIST IM SO SALTY RIGHT NOW

>>161710390
Thats the ugliest ying i have ever seen

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>>161722184

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I kinda want to try this game

Do you still need to install literal spyware on your computer to run Hi-Rez games?

>>161722610
Nah the anti-cheat thing is in a beta so its optional for now.

>>161723838

How do I uninstall it

Repulsor Field is ACTUALLY so good when your team takes advantage of it. My god.

Ruckus as a solo tank: You get on the point. The enemies are approaching. Shit. You use your Emitter, but they have Wrecker. You've at least got some HP, but they see you're all alone, and the flanks can smell fear. You activate Repulsor Field, naturally no one is near to benefit from the buff or help you out. You die with 9000 damage taken all from different champions, and the enemy team takes the point.

Ruckus with another frontliner and healer: Dude 50% damage reduc for entire team lmao *caps point and pushes cart without going below 2k HP*

>>161723889
Not sure. If you're one of the few they are using for testing it your probably just really unlucky since it's really a beta. It currently increases ping and crashes the game for some.

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>>161724314
>ruckus anything
sup bro that's a nice shield you have there...

>>161724523
Well his Repulsor Field is the REAL deal about Ruckus. Emitter is just a weaker way to prevent damage which is there to deal with chip damage and make it so you don't have to use Repulsor Field every time you take damage instead of using it to win fights vs enemies once they engage your team (who are all close by you)

Drogoz can scatter his team too....... So yeah Drogoz fucks Ruckus up in general. Bomb King too.

>>161724523
>BEHOLD
>Can shoot him down before he reaches you
Goblins > Dragons

>>161724695
>starting the ultimate right in front of the enemy
Shitters need not to apply.

>>161724784
>In front of
Unless you're standing next to a corner there's a lot of warning.

The whole FWOOOSH drowning out all the other sounds kind of exposes you.

>>161724940
>implying you can kill him before it hits you
Most of the time the ultimate will hit, there just isn't enough time to shoot him down, you can't argue with this.

>>161725068
That's entirely dependant on the map.

On Timber Mill, Frog Isle, Fish Market and Ice Mines there's enough room that if Dragon Punch comes towards the cap from any of the nearby corners there's enough time to kill unless you're not revved up and shooting or reloading.

And Serpent Isle, Jaguar Falls and Frozen Guard are cramped shit maps and thus irrelevant to this discussion.

I played OW and PAL both
You just kinda get the feeling that OW has at least 3 times more effort into it

While Paladins has that... how to call it...
That F2P vibe to it, you know? That "we don't give a shit about the little details, this game is a bait and hook in the store to get players that don't have the cash to buy OW, then pick sides and toss money in here for bullshit"

I'm not saying Paladins is bad or that Overwatch is better, it's just like comparing the iPhone to that chinese cheap copycat "iPnoho". It's not a ripoff and nobody says fucking apple is better than anything, but once you got both in your hands, the iPhone just feels more... premium? Noble? Upscaled?
I don't speak english as mother tongue but I hope the statement I intended to make is understandable.

>>161725635
Everyone is aware of that.

>>161725635
That is because Paladins is discount overwatch
>Waifus are gone
>Germ becomes spic
>Characters become furries for no reason
>qtloli will become a filthy tranny furry shota

>>161725815
Oh, alright, good to know.
I wasn't very deep into the Pal-community yet, or its "democratic" mindset.

>>161725873
Its fine, I personally don't think a bit more of polish is worth the price tag, Paladins is actually pretty great as far as F2P goes and if I get bored in less than a month nothing of value was lost, literally.

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>>161725635
UGH! DON'T SAY THAT!

>>161725635
That's the massive difference in budget you're seeing. HiRez at least did very good with their tiny budget in comparison.

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>>161725635
I like Paladins, but having to choose your champion before you know what map you'll be playing on is bullshit.
>bring Bomb King
>it's Timber Mill
>don't bring Bomb King
>it's Frog Isle

>>161719467
Have you played snek? He's the most active and fun support.

>>161727375
You do know that the map for the match is displayed at the very top, right?

>>161727375
...anon, on the champion select screen there's the name of the map going to be played on the top middle
Are you blind

>>161727518
>>161727532
>Are you blind
Evidently yes.

>>161728194
Your sight fails you, then.

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>Casual match
>Pick furry at first
>See a guy pick Ruckus
>Pick Fernando at the last second
>"Wtf Pip why did you change"
>"You'll see."
>Get on the point, start shielding Ruckus while he shoots, but at the same time trying to get rid of the enemy 'Nando and his Ying on my own
>Win after a very close 3/3
>After match
>Ruckus gets POTG
>"Best Fernando that I played with in a while, thanks for changing last second."

These are the moments that brighten my day up as a Fernando main.

>>161728296
better pick a champion because time's ticking

>>161728406
Every fernando I get runns off on his own and when back on point never shields others but himself.

>>161726087
Very good argument, anon. Tru dat.

>>161726590
COME AT ME BRO I SWEAR ON ME DROGOZ I'LL ULT YE IN YER FUCKING FACE

>>161726986
Yeah, most likely, it's that.
Cash => more time to work => more care for details

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>>161728656
That is a prime example of a bad 'Nando. A Fernando should always try his best to shield his teammates, and to also balance when He should attack, and when He should shield.

Running like a retard left and right, and acting like a slower flank will only get you and your team killed.

>>161728656
I'm not gonna stand on the point by myself when everyone else are going god knows where.

>aimbot scrubs in comp
it's like casual is not fun for them anymore
they need to come to me and ruin my rating

Some questions about comp

>What are the Ranks?
I'm guessing that in Casual the highest you can get is Gold, and that in order to move beyond you need to win X amount of times per new rank?
>How does it effect ELO?
Is it the same as Casual? Do you get the same matchmaking as Casual?
>Can your Rank lower?
ie Platnium back to Gold if you lose (only times I play haven't lost)

>>161730042

Ranks:
Level 1 is Bronze, Level 3 is Silver and Level 4 is Gold. You need to have at least Gold on a champion to pick it.
Platinum is rank 3500+. Diamond is rank 4000+. Master is rank 4500+. You cannot lose the rank if you dip below the requirement.

Your ELO is still updated for casual when you play Ranked, but your Competetive points will also be taken into account.

>>161728412
You better fucking stop, or you're going to feel the Dragons Fury!

>>161731648
Not today, amigo.

>it's a "pip doesn't heal his team and goes roaming around" episode

>>161732105
So it's a pip episode

>>161723838
I mean the service they force you to start with your computer and keep monitoring and sending data to them just in case you starte the game

>>161732105
That is what Pip is supposed to do. Stop expecting him to be a healer because he isn't one.

>>161732765
then why the fuck is he categorized as support they need to fix that shit

>>161732765
His class literally says support.
Just support.
I will end you and your family, anon.
I will find you, and end you.

>>161732765
>>161733034
>>161733062
Pip should be redesigned into a proper healer

>>161733034
Because everyone at hi-rez is fucking retarded.

>play all the champs in casual till i have level 4 just so i can switch any champ for Androxus if I don't get first pick
What, don't look at me like that. It's worth it.

>OB40
>Pip
>Healing Potion replaced with Explosion Potion
>Works exacly the same, except damaging enemies instead of healing allies
Would that make Pip a good flanker?

>>161735148
No. Pip is fine as-is, he already has insane survivability and respectable damage, he doesn't need any more than that.

Don't fall for the "pip is not a healer" meme, he is, it's just not the primary focus of his kit

>>161732765
He is a mediocre flanker at best, playing him like that is a waste of a slot, with the card that reduces cooldown on heal he can be a semi decent dealer and with his cc he can be great offensive support.

How am I supposed to play ying?

>>161736576
Spam illusions, don't use shatter and kamehameha some faggots

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>>161714427
4100ish with buck after like 5 or 6 wins i think? id have to go check.

I havent played in a few weeks though, so.

If I played more I could probably be 4500 or so. I should do that, because I want one of those fancy master portraits.

>>161736798
>don't use shatter
W-what.

>buy turtleguy
>playing casuls
>1-3
>suddenly lags
>misclick YOU DARE TO CHALLENGE MAKOA at the base
>no ult, prepared for the worst
>suddenly comeback and we won

any tips to use hook on makoa

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>>161737712
It's a projectile that is off centered to left side of your reticle. When you hook someone, do 180 spin to put them in worse spot for them to escape. When going to the point, hook their tank or healer to middle of your team to take them out quick.

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>>161737712
>>161738196
Also if you're against Nando, you can walk behind his shield and hook him out of it.

>>161736982
Depends on your card set, another strategy is "nearly always use shatter" but there's nothing in-between

>>161728406
>Surviving with no supports
I doubt it.

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>>161735615
>is a healer
>healing is not priority

well guys I guess buck needs to be moved into the support category then

>>161738891
Buck can heal his teammates? I wasn't aware.

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>>161738984
I wasn't aware pip could either

>>161739091
UGH! What do you MEAN? Pip can HEAL his allies! In fact, his heal is STRONGER than Grovers heal if you dont count the passive heal. And ESPECIALLY with cards.

Hm!... Except Pip has a similar playstyle to Buck, andreally doesnt deserve the support tag.

>tfw u r barick
>tfw u try 2 stand on point
>tfw it doesnt work
>tfw its cause an enemy is standing on it
>tfw ur not tough enough to kill said enemy
Dag nabbit

>>161738891
>is a healer

Nah, retard. He's a support, that doesnt mean inherently being a healer.

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Would you a Ying?

>>161740063
Ying is so cute.

>>161725635
i prefer my vertical fps to your super slow horizontal fps
even ut4 is more vertical than ow hell even quake champions its going to be more vertical

paladins is terribled coded i give you that

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>>161740063
Yes.
She is my beautiful, pure wife, and I will have consensual sex in the missionary position for procreation with her!

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>>161740614
It's funny you say that, anon.
She is actually MY wife, so I have no idea what you're talking about. I got the real her.

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>>161741252
But anon...
Why are you posting lies on the internet? You must have some sort of illusion that my wife made as a wife, because the real Ying is my wife, and we plan of having kids soon, too.
Here is a photo of her while we were having pure, missionary position sex.

>>161740614
>>161741252
Kill yourselves

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>>161741653
This Anon is clearly jealous.
No worries, you can have that purple slut, Skye. Hopefully she won't kill you in your sleep.

>>161738196
hm, i kinda realize that the hook is off centered, but idk how much. i only hook and pray i got someone.
thx anon

>>161741653
this
waifufags bring nothing but gay circlejerks to the game

just look at the first few posts in /owg/
even if the game was good there was no way i would be able to handle that

>>161740063
she is okay
but ofc evie is the best gril

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>>161742506
This is /vg/, what do you expect? Would you prefer faggots to lust after Fernando or furfags to lust after Pip?
At least it's straight NEETS, not delusional faggots.

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>>161741582
I know that's not her because only sluts make such faces, and she is the complete polar opposite of a slut. She tricked you. :3
You got a whore impostor, good for you. My real Ying is the purest in the world.

>>161741653
You first.

>>161742506
You know, you could change that if the rest of you actually discussed the game. For the last few days it's been nothing but "ded gem ded bread" nonstop.
At least we waifufags are keeping the thread afloat. What are you doing?

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>>161743130
>He doesn't know how to pleasure Ying so she starts doing ahegao faces
Sad!
Only the purest girls can make such lewd ahegao faces, because their pleasure is pure and true! Not fake and acted like that whore Skye.

>>161743130
tutorial bred?
tutorial bred

how to improve my flank champ

>>161743458
Shoot them in the back.

>>161742895
who said i wanted anyone to lust over anything? why would you play a game only for the imaginary characters they have and then fantasize about having sex with them? there are porn websites for that

>>161743130
>we waifufags are keeping the thread afloat
woo wee thanks for that my dude sure is fun seeing "ying is MAI wife ! no ying is MAI wife you die!@@!!!" over and over like a broken fucking record

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>>161743849
You are so upset right now lmao.

>>161744039
haha le *me drinks ur tears* meme XD

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>>161743458
Go behind enemy lines, never fight against 2 enemies(especially if you playing Evie, that's a sure death), only 1v1s, unless you're an Andy main, then 1v2 are possible, but you may still die.
Try to take them by surprise, because if they notice you before you start shooting anybody, you will need to flee at that moment.

Kinessa is the easiest targent ever.

Search after leftovers (low hp enemies) and finish them, then run away to safety to heal.

ATTACK THE HEALER FIRST, I can not stress this enough, don't be retarded and fight the tank alone, while a healer is nearby, because you will die, while the tank is getting healed.
Veteran is your bestfriend if you are the type to stay far away from your healer, being able to heal faster when you are out of combat is a good thing to have as a flank.

Abuse the fuck out of the movement abilities, especially the cards that heal you when you use them, because you will need to flee/get faster to a targent most of the time, so getting a little healed up is good.

>>161744186
wouldnt kill to heal or heal on hit would be more useful on some characters?

especially evie, she can return like 300 hp for every blast she hits at rank 3 with heal on hit

also, does heal on hit count for other abilities such as drogoz's spitfire blast?

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I want Evie to cuddle with me by a cozy fire..................

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>>161744532
Kill to heal is good too, but most flanker mains use veteran because they go into the backline, making it harder for your allies to help you kill your targent. This more depends on your type of playstyle, because some use flanks more to surprise enemies on the point, helping their team to get rid of somebody quicker, or to go away from their team, staying around the enemy's spawn.
Example: Your team is fighting on the point, and you are hunting down a Ying/Pip, being pretty far away from your allies, so it's either one of you dies, or you flee, especially since there is no ally nearby.

Both are good cards, you just have to choose the one which fits your playstyle more.

And I'm not sure if it does, I may test it later.

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Let's take a look at the theoretical highest HPS possible for each support, properly specced, not counting ults and items like rejuvenate and chronos.

Ying with full illusion uptime has a constant 700 HPS. Does not require team to be grouped and operate independently.
Mal'Damba has Gourd for 280HPS on everyone every 8s if they stay in it (4s duration) and a total of 1400 heal every 3s if if he doesn't miss, for a total of 1166.67 HPS.
Pip can throw 2x1200 health potions for the team every 8s provided the team is grouped, for a total of 1500 HPS.
Grover has a passive 80 HPS and 1000 for everyone every 10s, provided the team is grouped he heals for 900 HPS.
Grohk, with the tankiest characters with health increase cards (Fernando, Makoa, Ruckus, Buck), can drop a totem every 11s that lasts 8s for 340 HPS, plus 4% max HP. Total of 875.64 HPS. However, since it's bugged and heals for 4% per tick and not per second, it can go up to 2760.73 HPS.

So, in theory the best healing outputs are: Bugged Grohk >> Pip > Mal'Damba > Grover > Fixed Grohk > Ying.
The primary reason Ying out on top most of the time in practice is because her heals are on autopilot, cover a significant area and don't require people sticking together. Mal'Damba is up there, too, since his kit doesn't require close proximity and a good healing Mal can outheal a good Ying. Pip's healing is burst, timing dependant and grouping dependant, Grover's is low all around and Grohk would be absoulte garbage if not for the totem bug.

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>>161743458
It's about looking for opportunities. Don't just engage everything in sight, wait for them to be fighting your team before you go in.

Also this ult radius is retarded. It forced them to try to run away instead of shooting my team and we mopped them up as a result.

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>>161745054

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>>161743458
More tutorials because I have nothing to do:
>Ying
Stick to your team, try to stay grouped as much as you can, or at least stay with your frontliner on the point
Ying mains, don't put your illusions in open fire, put it behind your allies, unless you want to bodyblock the damage with your illusion, but it's not the best strategy. Shatter only when all of your allies are healed up or when your illusions are on low health.

Dimension link is your panic button, press it any time a flank/damage is out to kill you, or if you want, you can do a combo for damage by spawning 2 illusions with dimensional link and shattering them.
Use your ult when your frontliner is low on health and you are farway from him.
A good Ying ult can save lives.

Chronos is your bestfriend, use it to spawn illusions on a quicker rate.
Never shy away from dealing damage, help your allies, but don't go over the top with damage.
The second somebody starts to bully you, you dimension link away, don't fight them, unless they're on low health.

A good flank WILL hunt you, be aware of that.
A decent team WILL try to kill you first, be aware of that.

>>161747518
What cards, how do I go full muslim suicide bomber?

>>161747518
>Use your ult when your frontliner is low on health

For healing Ying's ult is utter garbage. It's useful for getting back on the point because it allows you to teleport.

im constantly losing as mal and i dont fucking know why
is it my team that's bad?
is it me who's bad?

what the fuck is going on

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>>161747876
As of this patch I use:
Carry on IV
Fracture I
Mesmerism II
Pursuit IV
Rewind I

>Muslim bomber
Use the shatter build and go full on Jihad Mistress.

>>161748046
It is garbage, but at least it keeps your tank alive a few seconds longer till you get there.

How do you even BUILD grohk? Just entirely around totem? Just completely around totem? Is building around being hard to catch with Ghost Walk good? Is the Right Click any good or the card that lets you reduce its cd good?

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>>161749231
Totem's cooldown is so long that you're forced to build entirely around it.

>>161749502
Is Monolith Totem card overrated? You have to put at LEAST 3 points into it to prevent Androxus from 2shotting it, (unless he's close enough to get full 620 damage both shots, in which case you need FOUR points just for another shot) and it has nothing to say vs neither Bomb King nor Drogoz nor Cassie.

And isn't totem AoE good? That way you can hide it better and still get heals. Totem duration is already high so that part is fine.

>>161748748
i think mal is for comp only since he only work with not retarded teams

if you have retarded teams in comp you are in low elo and need to carry up with another paladin

>>161748767
What cards for Jihadist queen.

>>161749902
The AoE is pretty crap considering you have to walk in the middle of everything to use it and then body block it so it can actually last.

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>>161750118
Pursuit IV
Rewind II
Spring forward II
Brittle III
Fracture I

>>161746559
>Also this ult radius is retarded. It forced them to try to run away instead of shooting my team and we mopped them up as a result.
That's the point. Skye's Time Bomb is about area denial; either clear out or take massive damage.

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>>161651382
>>161715320
We already have many magic users, they should make her a loli with psionic abilities.
Should be a high skill level tank/support hero built around mitigating damage and fucking with enemies.

>be Grohk
>single handedly stall the kart for 8 seconds by placing a healing ward, jumping around like a monkey and ghost walking
now if only my allies killed the enemies that weren't near the damn kart we wouldn't have a problem

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C-can smite merge with this gen, we're dying

Let's assume you don't have any frontliners and you're playing Grohk. Is the Healing Rain IV card worth is when it's only 108 more heal per second for yourself? It doesn't seem like it to me.

Also, is Totemic Rescue underrated?

>>161753910
Europeans are sleeping now, and Hi-rez killed the game with the nerfs, this general will become more lively when they release a new hero.

>>161753910
yeah lets merge also tf2 with dota and csgo
and while were at it lets also merge overwatch with world of warcraft, heroes of the storm, and hearthstone

cause why not right? its the same dev so i dont see a difference between games

>>161754046
Healing Rain is actually per tick (4 per second), not second as it says.

>>161754098
They were merged before newfriend, please go back to OW

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>today
>me healer
>team damage/flank
>praying last dude picks frontliner, even rucks at this point
>he picks kinessa
>hes level 2
>he contributes next to nothing

cause

yknow

elo and shit
right?

>>161754157
Jesus christ allmighty you're right, that card is fucking broken.

To anyone wanting to play Grohk, USE FUCKING HEALING RAIN IV

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Can I play as hana song in paladins?

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>>161754848
There is a goblin in a mech, not much of difference visually.

>havent played Paladings since 2 weeks
>check out OB39
>still no Edgelord nerf
I assume one of the higher ups from Low-Rez doesnt want it to get nerfed because he likes it so much.
Meanwhile Evie gets sent back to the lower tiers with her nerf.
But hey! Atleast she has all dem skins! BUY THEM BUY THEM BUY THEM!!!!

fucking hell.

>>161756260
evie is a shit tier character, I hope they nerf her from the game.

>>161756373
hello Edgelord player.
Let me guess your Username
xXxDarkCody420xXx

>>161756484
lol no, she is an annoying character with too much moblity, if she was better she would make the game unfun.

I love how you can't delete loadouts
Sausage Lores

>>161755208
Gameplay wise Ruckus—D.Va are completely different

>>161757015
Yeah that'll probably be added pretty soon. Or just you know, never, because it's not ACTUALLY an important problem, but yet SO easy to fix.

>>161757015
>import loadout from someone else
>click "clear all"
>click "cancel"

there, it's gone