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I finally reached C0 edition
Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone /hsg/
The Steam version launched on October 28th.
The next expansion, Rise of Bahamut, will be released at the end of December.

Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799676100

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh

Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor for the lazy or mentally handicapped. Open wide and enjoy responsibly:

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

You can listen to both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://89.40.121.179/sv.html
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Bunnies.
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>playing Elana on turn 3
You only have yourself to blame
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Guys I've gotten 3500 vials just from dupes for the first time!
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SIXTH
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>tfw you will never kill a fairy by forcing your penis through her entire body while she begs you to stop while crying and screaming from pain
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Come on OP

Previous thread: >>161557476
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>>161578084
>liquefying cards when the expansion is around the corner
Enjoy not getting full value from the cards that get changed
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>>161578048
Horny bunnies
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>>161578158
NOBODY CARES
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>>161578220
>still about a month left
>around the corner

What you say is right but a month is a long time
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>>161578220

>mfw no cards get nerfed and this anon wasted his time and vials
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>>161578220
Yeah anon remember all the cards that got nerfed last time. All one of them

And remember all the buffs! There were so many!
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Give it to me straight doc, how many wins do I have left in this world?

51dt
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>>161578391
Hey man do what you want but I have patience. I'm sitting on like 5 Elana's and if they really do get nerfed then I know I'm getting 4000 vials right there.
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Hey guys, be honest. What chara do you fap to the most?
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>>161578635
Medusa
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>>161577871
>C

I'm jealous, I haven't been able to get out of D2, there's some real pros playing in D3, I swear.
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People always shittalk Rune- and Forestdecks being cancerous.
Eventho they require strategic thinking to be played effective.

Respect Shadow- and Bloodcraft, when they are just stupid rush to the face decks.
One has woman with nice tits and ass, the other has lolis

really makes you think...
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>tfw people tell me Forest is difficult to play
I'm using about as much brains as I do when I play sword.
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You think you can buff?
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>obviously playing seraph, I've played nothing but removal
>earth petrifies my aria
wut

They had another petrify in hand for my first seraph but they lost on like turn 14 because of having no way to remove the second one.
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>>161578932
Post dick
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How to balance this game

Rhino roach is now 0/1
Elana only triggers if it actually heals
Garuda only triggers if it reduces countdown
Otohime's guards are 1/1

And something for PtP that doesn't immediately kill the card
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>>161579045
lol almost everyone can kill oto summons without major issues and retain units on the field already
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>>161578579
Anon I didn't liquefy anything above silver, golds are rare whereas I seem to have copies of every bronze and silver in the game
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why does every dshift player take a million years to end their turn when all they do i s play some insights
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>>161578635
Luna
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>>161578984
Since then I removed 1 Otomeme and replaced it with 3rd Olivia
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>>161577707
>>161578494
Well, maybe it's not that incomplete my forest
51eg
It feel stronger than the Haven one atleast
Until now it has been a train going full steam ahead, now i start to face people pulling out some shit
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>>161578635
Erika.
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>>161579124
>>161578984
Not Olivia, I meant Aurelia
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>>161578907
Shadow isn't braindead at all, of all the resources in the game shadow's one requires the most attention by the player.

Maybe it would be if you could choose when to spend shadows but right now you have to think ahead
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>>161579045
>Otohime's guards are 1/1
Congrats, she's now worse than Queen Vampire
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>>161579183
How often do you get fucked in the ass early game
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>>161579045
Otohime is fine, the whole point is that unlike white paladin you can't wipe the tokens with a 3 mana spell.
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Ha ha, nice board faggot.
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>>161578635
Eris.
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Why am I so streaky?

Do they match you with other people on a winstreak or something after 5 wins?
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>>161579148
I made a "tier list" last week for some anon, might as well repost it for you

G O L D E N
1 means good cards, 2 means tech cards or used in decks that are borderline meta, 3 means liquify, but you might meme with it.

>Forest
1. Rhinoceroach, Elf Girl Liza, Elf Knight Cynthia, Will of the Forest
2. Robin Hood, Silver Bolt
3. Petal Fencer, Noble Fairy, Ancient Forest Dragon, Titania's Sanctuary, Homecoming, Grand Archer Selwyn
>Sword
1. Alwida's Command, Frontguard General, White Paladin
2. Leonidas, Dragonewt Charlotte
3. Front Lines, Shadowed Assassin, Stratagem, Gemstaff Commander, Rogue's Creed, Latham, Vanguard Captain, Arthurian Light
>Rune
(I'm not so sure about non-meta rune decks, so if anyone can clarify here that'd be good)
1. Timeworn Mage Levi, Dimension Shift, Fire Chain
2. Calamitous Curse, Juno's Secret Laboratory, Ancient Alchemist, Conjuring Force, Rimewind
3. First Curse, Arcane Enlightenment
?. Winter's Caprice, Dragonbond Mage
>Dragon
1. Dragonewt Scholar
2. Deathmist Dragon, Genesis Dragon, Neptune, Wyvern Cavalier
3. Dracomancer's Rites, PHOENIX ROOST, Wyrm Spire, Polyphonic Roar, Shapeshifting Mage, Hydra, Orb Dragon
>Shadow
1. Foul Tempest, Death's Breath, Phantom Howl
2. Ceridwen, Spirit Cycle, Wight King, Mordecai the Duelist
3. Ghouls' Banquet, Midnight Haunt, Phantom Dragon, Madame Lich, Deathly Tyrant
>Blood
1. Vania, Vampire Princess, Vampiric Fortress, Dire Bond
2. Righteous Devil, Furiae, Azazel, Temptress Vampire, Revelations, Diabolic Drain
3. Demon Commander Laura, Medusa, Erinyes
>Haven
1. Elana's Prayer, Winged Sentinel Garuda, Themis' Decree
2. Holy Sentinel
3. Hare of Illusions, Arch Priestess Laelia, Chorus of Prayer, Love's Gospel, Devourer of Heavens, Dark Offering, Kaguya, Incandescent Dragon
>Neutral
1. Path to Purgatory, Altered Fate, Urd, Wind God
2. ???
3. Angel Crusher, Archangel Reina, Athena
4. Demonic Simulacrum

Legendary list coming after shitposting cooldown.
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Anyone have the full art of Whirlwind Mage and any other cute boys?
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>>161579224
>Worse than queen vampire
>Guaranteed board flood in a class based around buffing the board
Yeah, not exactly
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>>161579343
Oh but you can.
Opponent plays another one next turn anyway
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>put down the wrong card thanks to fat fingers
>get lethaled for 11 damage next turn because of it

Fuck's sake, haven in take two for dailies sucks.
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>>161579497
I sure do love spending 6 mana to lose all tempo to Barrage
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>>161579490
..you clearly have no fucking idea what you're talking about
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>>161579294
Pretty rarely desu. The cards I have are enough to stall until Aurelia drops. Whole-souled swing is OP in certain matchups and White general destroys aggro decks.
My biggest problems are D-Shift(though I still have close to 50% winrate vs them) and Control Blood.
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>>161579653
>Lose all tempo
>Still have a 3/3 body in play
>Opponent spent a card and 3 mana to not even compeltely deal with one of your cards
I don't think you know what lose all tempo means
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NEW CARDS WHEN?
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>>161577871
>death's breath in t2

??????????????????????????

wtf should i do
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>>161579551
Yeah but the difference there is your getting shadows in the trade too

4 bodyguards for shadow's best removal is a decent trade
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>>161579148
>>161579490
I realized now that I've got Robin Hood on the wrong tier, should be on 3. Anyway, Legendary list:
Tier 1 means REALLY GOOD CARDS that you should keep. Tier 2 means used in some tech slots or very specific decks (aside from neutral, since they're most tech anyway)
Forest
1. Ancient Elf, Tia
Not really used: Fairy Princess, Thorn Queen (might become a thing with the expansion, who knows, I'd keep her if I got one right now)
Sword
1. Otohime, Tsubaki, Aurelia
2. Alexander
Rune
1. Merlin
Not really used: Pascale, Mythril Golem, Erasmus
Dragon
1. Forte
2. Zirnitra, Fafnir
Not really used: Dragonsong Flute
Shadow
1. Cerberus, Lord of the Flies
Not really used: Pluto, Lord Atomy
Blood
1. ??
2. Queen Vampire, Bloody Mary
Not really used: Beast Dominator, Soul Dealer
Haven
1. Enstatued Seraph, Moon Al-mi'raj
Not really used: Jeanne D'Arc, Skullfane
Neutral
1. Olivia, Odin
2. Lucifer, Gabriel
Not really used: Prince of Darkness (aside from some Seraph and meme decks).
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>Every single game I've lost in the past hour would have been a win if I went 2nd
Getting real fucking tired of this
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How are your arena runs going today, /svg/?
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>>161579708
Neither do you but at least I'm helping.
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>>161579778
>6 mana 3/3
Incredible
Just stop talking
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>>161579986
they helped me remember that I fucking hate arena
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>>161579989
You suggested liquifying about six cards that are played in the best or second best decks of their classes

You're Not helping, you're causing problems by being someone who doesn't know shit but still feels the fucking need to dish out advice.
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>>161580025
Going by that mentality no card is allowed to outplay/counter another card else it's unfair.
DoD can kill your 10pp 9/11 dragon so what?
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>>161578635
Dork.
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>>161578926
it's not difficult, just expensive. if you have the vials and/or cards, it's super easy and OP
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>>161580186
I thought I just told you to stop talking?
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>>161579857
Your list is shit.
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>>161580150
It's always the shitters who feel the need to "help" by making these dumb long posts when they don't understand shit.
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>Swordcraft going second in take-two with a perfect curve into a turn 4 floral fencer and tons of removal
I hate this stupid fucking class so much
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>>161580186
>DoD can kill your 10pp 9/11 dragon so what?

Not even him but this is the dumbest fucking analogy ever because the dragon has Storm. If I swing for 9 then it's already done its job, if you want to waste half or more of your mana to kill it, not add to the board, and then pass back the turn then please do so I can then drop another Storm follower and swing again.
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>>161580150
I wonder why I haven't seen these cards while laddering them.
You also can stop throwing a tantrum and actually point out what cards are these instead. That'd help.
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I've never played a tcg where going 1st vs 2nd had such a fucking enormous impact on who won
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>>161579863

>mfw I am on a 12 games win streak and won going first or second.

Feels good not being a shitter.
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>>161579045
I've never considered Otohime overpowered. If only because of how strong full board removal is for most of the classes in this game. The class that has the worst board removal is hilariously Sword itself, and Otohime can be punished there with a big value Aurelia drop.

Elana's only triggering on heal is shit and kills the deck entirely, because any player with a pulse will just not go face until they can combo lethal in 1-2 turns.
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>>161580385
Then you haven't played many TCGs.
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>>161580385
Never pick up Yugioh.
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>>161580408
there's a chance for the whole pack to be animated
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>>161580352
It's just an example. Spending a 3 points on arrows on turn 6 is also half of your points.
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>>161578926
None ever said Forest is hard
Forest it's either cancer or trash tier without middle grounds.
Do you have a >25k+ vials deck witj 3x Acient Elf? You are cancer
Do you have a <25k+ vials deck and less than 3 Acient Elf? Your forest is trash
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>Otohime and Sage are okay

Anons weren't lying when they said this general is full of swordshitters
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>>161580595
>Bodyguards don't even have Ward

Otohime is fine.
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What do people mean when they talk about "honest" cards?
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>>161580284
Who the fuck are you?
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>>161580673
Cards that they don't loose to.
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>>161580462

Are you under the assumption Elana is all haven has? If you build a strong board they just remove it. Even then, they have enough material to kill you without Elana if for some reason you don't go face. Aria is a thing.
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>>161580408
(0.08)^8 that's about 1 in 500 million
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>>161580595
Sword is the class for people who don't want to play the game, they want to win just because they went 2nd and drew floral/otohime and lose when they don't.
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>>161580673
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Honest
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>>161580595
>Sage
>Literally a worse Wind God who is a worse Cynthia
What did he mean by this?
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>>161580740
>>161580408
Closer to 600 million actually
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>>161580743
>>161580595
Which is also the reason so many people complain about going 1st since Sword can have a 10%+ swing between 1st and 2nd
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>>161580743
t. C0 Elana main
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So which MtG tourney was it that the Japanese Cygames employee participated in?
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>Earth vs Heal
>win by decking out heal
>Earth vs purg
>win by banishing his cynthia preparation board and pascale remi and two golems while he didn't have purg ready
>Earth vs storm haven
>Banish his board twice and win
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>>161580790
>A worse wind god
What the fuck are you smoking?
Are you serious? Sage is one of the most overstatted minions in the game. He's on par with Cynthia; he's WAY better when you're ahead but worse when you're behind
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>>161580798
Except it's much higher since it's a flat chance upon receiving the pack, not a per card chance
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>fresh in A rank
>lose 5 games in a row

Fuck you too.
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>>161580790
>worse base stats
>only increases attack and not defense
>implying your opponent will even let your windgod live for more than one turn
>Sage is a worse Wind God
What did he mean by this?
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>>161580740
this isn't true, there's a chance to get a full animated pack that's way higher than getting every card animated by itself, 7 animates are super super rare for example
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>>161580737
No, I'm not, but if they choose to nerf one of the tier 1 deck's engines fine, but let's not murder it.
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>>161580923
Grand Prix Chiba. Format was Legacy.
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>play with elana emblem, salty flair, and saudi flag for maximum triggering
>opponent has saudi flag too

anon is that you?
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>>161579857
Rose Queen sees fringe play. So do Pascale and Erasmus. Zirnitra is complete shit. Atomy is played more than Lord of the Flies right now in the meta. Olivia only sees play in t2 decks, Gabriel sees play in t1.

I mean if your criteria is good cards and bad cards then whatever, that's your opinion and I think it's wrong but anyone who believes you deserves to be stupid. If you're listing them by play though, you should probably get a clue as to what cards actually see play.

Incompetent people trying to help is much worse than no help at all.
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I hate heals so much.
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>>161580925
Honestly, if the devs didn't try to force the matches be less than 10 turns and earth had more options, including anti spell defense, it'd be a fun deck. But so far its, do you remi on 4, pascale on 5? Do you have mass banish when you need it? Did you get juno into remi into pascale and did it stick? Do you have Levi to counter tia/aria/alwida/similar cards?
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>>161580385
Never play hearthstone
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>>161581172
For Allah.
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>>161580898
Bruh, as someone that ran Mid-sword to AA0 I'll tell you that only shitters bitch about going first with sword, going first with sword is free fucking damage.
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>>161581209
Don't say that or else all the Elana mains crawl out of their holes to call you a swordshitter.
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Let's try to design cards for the default leaders. What would they do?
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>>161581301
mid sword has like the biggest gap between going first and second though
I do feel like going first in a mirror is actually way better assuming you draw oto and sage
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>>161581000
I love ramming his 6/8 evolved cock into things, it's like I really am using Cynthia.
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>>161581363
Undress everyone
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>>161581338
why would sword complain about an easy matchup
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>playing blood
>against some healing faggot
>becomes very clear that I can't win
>double claw, demonic storm, tie

Fuck you, faggot.
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>>161578635
I am fapping to this right now
https://my.mixtape.moe/cfefhr.jpg
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If you play Haven you should kill yourself.

t. Shadow
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Going first is literally the same thing as going second!! Git gud!!
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>>161581425
Just having a decent curve will net you wins, then there's the god curve of Vanguard/Blader>Fervid>Fencer>White Gen when going first.
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>>161581513
If you play Storm Haven you should kill yourself
t. Storm Haven
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>>161581098

But Elana triggering only if it actually heals the leader and not at full HP won't kill the deck, that's the point
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62-63% winrate at masters with my midrange. It used to be like 70-80%

I'm getting trolled real hard tonight. Like literally faced 7 control shadow matchups from out of nowhere in dumpster AA0-AA2 ranks

They literally exist to get farmed by dshift but still people actually play those crap?
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86877 Concede please
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>>161581363
>Arisa
>Bounce a follower, deal 2 damage to random targets
>Put 3 fairies on the field, evolve them
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>>161581472
>tie
lmoa
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>>161580673
Cards they win against, it's shitter talk.
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>>161581558
>percentages

Why accept percentages? Those are only the percentages because of averages, shouldn't you try your best to try overcome those odds?
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>>161581513
If you're bitching about Haven you should apply yourself

t. Better Shadow
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So...what do you guys think bahamut will do

What new craft themes do you think they'll push?

What currently revealed card are you exited for?
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>>161581172
tfw no palestine flag
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>>161581363
Luna: 10pp 6/9
Fanfare: The game ends and I get to marry Luna.
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HAHA WEREN'T EXPECTING ME TO TOP DECK MY TWO DANCE OF DEATH IN A ROW WERE YOU??? MAYBE IT WILL TEACH YOU A LESSON FOR TAKING 3 FUCKING MINUTES PER TURN.

GET KEKED

/catharsis
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>>161581654
>reshuffle your hand
>deal 6 damage to all enemies
>gain 1/1 for each card played this turn
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BAD MATCHUPS DON'T EXIST

LEARN HOW TO PLAY THE GAME SHITTERS
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>>161581363
>Erika
>Summon a Gunner Maid, Snippy Gardener, or Maid Leader at the end of your turn
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>>161581442
>why would sword complain about an easy matchup
It's not easy now they've started running seraph in the deck
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just installed waifuverse today, how did i do with my free packs

golds/legendaries

my dick cannot handle so many qt elves in this game
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>>161581797
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>>161581194
>Atomy is a good ladder card because it appearead in a tournament xdddd
>Erasmus ins't completely shit
>But Zirnitra is
>Pascale sees play in a deck that can barely break 40% win rate overall
I agree on Olivia and Gabriel though.
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>>161578635
Futa Vania
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>>161581895
There's like a million of these pictures at different resolutions

Who actually does this shit
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>>161578701
Teach me your secrets senpai, I can't find any medusa stuff.
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>>161581759
Sorry, we're already married.
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>>161581797
>deck has a 38.3% winrate over 6600 games in the matchup
>this isn't a bad matchup

>>161581930
No dragon deck runs Zirnitra
NONE
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>>161581884
Sadly, it's pretty shit. Most of the legendaries you have don't see play.
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>>161581884
With these cards you can't even think of making a Forest deck
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>>161581845
seraph is only relevant in the csword matchup, which are unpopular and it's up to them to tech 2 odin
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>>161581884
You're just missing Soul Dealer and you'd have the full shitty meme legendary collection
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>spent vials on a stormburd deck
>bored within a day
>spent vials on a seraph deck
>bored again
>no more vials
I have made a mistake or two
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>>161581884
reroll immediately
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>>161581884
>4/5 legos are trash

Ouch
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>>161581979
I never looked for medusa, she found her way into my folder by herself.
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>>161581797
No, but bad draws exist and you can't play around not drawing the cards you need.

T. Dragon
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>>161581884
Somehow you managed to pull all of the worst legendaries in the game which is impressive in its own right
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>>161581980
You married the town bike. Grats on getting cucked by everyone in this thread while you wear that ringpop she gave you.
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>>161581996
>No dragon deck runs Zirnitra
Storm Ramp Dragon runs 3 of them in some lists
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>>161582125
That's also a bad deck
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>>161581294
>someone uses the ms paint picture you created

Th-thanks!!
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>>161581797
This ain't a fighting game, the impact of skill can only go so far.
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>>161582106
>not posting the better version
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>>161582125
That's the hail mary "please let me go first and draw oracle aielia and let them not be aggro" deck

Sure it looks great when they go oracle aielia goblinmount but when they fail to draw a single piece in their initial turns it's a complete garbage deck which doesn't function well at all
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>>161582012
Seraph is relevant in the midsword matchup, so much so that I have an Odin in there now
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>>161581363
>Fanfare Spellboost all followers on field
>Earth rite: Banish a target and draw a sigil
>Evolve Spellboost your hand and draw a spell
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>>161582125
bad lists
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>tfw you miss lethal but don't get punished for it
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>>161582329
>on field
Why?
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>>161582370
>tfw you miss lethal and lose the game because of it
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>Spellboost is basically wind
>Alchemy is earth
More ice and fire rune cards when
>>161582425
To make cards like penguin and whirlwind mage actually matter.
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>>161582260
desu senpai i hadn't save that one yet, thanks for the luna lewd
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>>161582045
will i have to make a new steam account? lame
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There was once a shattered statue sleeping in a lost capital. But only the birds saw it, as no man ever entered that forbidden land.

The statue depicted a legendary angel who once fought to protect humanity. There were those who offered their prayers to this angel, and kept her in their hearts.

Over the course of many years, the prayers of the innocent gradually weakened the hold of an ancient curse on the angel, slowly restoring her to glory.

The nameless seraph will be resurrected by the pure hearts and innocent prayers of humanity. She will be a radiant light to guide this world.
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>>161582497
Neither of those have spell boosts.
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>>161582454
>tfw know you have lethal and are about to play it, but the game decides to play another card due to muh misclick
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>>161582106
Please don't badmouth my wife. She's been through a lot and you'll make her upset.

>>161582260
Also please don't post lewd images of her.
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>>161582659
I want to fuck that statue
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>>161582683
They are boosted every time you play a spell.
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>>161581363
>Rowen

>Ward
>Overflow: Transform into a Black Dragon, deal 1 damage to all followers
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>>161582560
you can reroll on an android emulator then link it to your steam account

there's probably instructions in the OP
>>
is there a way to reroll missions? I'd rather not have this dead "Link with another service" mission in my oration all the time.
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>>161582659

Back you go.
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>>161581650
anyone?
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>>161582260
>better
>still censored
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Why has A3 been predominately control shadow today? This deck loses to so many popular decks.
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>>161582808
Link it to a googleplay account
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>>161582751
But Follower!Isabelle is not a spell.
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>just 20-0'd an elf spamming forest cuck with my shitty shadow deck
feels good not being cancer and still raping shitters
>>
>get to AA
>half the ladder are elves
>even if they don't know what the fuck they're doing
So this is why people complain so much. At least my win ratio is going up with all the people playing Elana/Seraph and bad Forest.
I too play Forest.
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>>161582931
Do you not know about the new rune follower that does exactly that?
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>>161582953

How do you play forest badly? How do you play forest goodly? I thought Forest was an OP deck that literally plays itself.
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>>161582943
>feels good not being cancer

might want to take a look at the image you posted
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>>161582659
How much cum do you think was spilled on her over the years?
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>>161583160
PtP needs you to think about a lot of things to play it optimally, though is still good if you don't.

Tempo is braindead
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>>161583027
You mean the one that Spellboosts a follower in hand? Neither Penguin Wizard nor Whirlwind Mage have a Spellboost mechanic.
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>6 loses in a row as lolibats in AA1

Man fuck this shit, climbing with T2 decks is suffering. Every fucking match had something, the 3 elves had turn 3 Ancient Elves or bouncing roach.
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>>161583283
How many slices of bread did you eat in your life?
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85208
CONCEDE PLEASE
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>draw animated Demonic Simulacrum
>wanna keep all animated
>need vials
send help
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>>161583547
>Demonic Simulacrum
lol
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>>161583547
Simulacrum is free vials.
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whats the trick to avoiding running out of cards in hand?
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>>161583464
THANKS
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>>161583160
Forest is strong but you have a lot of shit to account for unlike most classes.
We can debate semantics on what "difficult to play" means but on average I think Forest decks are only outdone difficulty wise by control Blood right now (and maybe Shadow, not so sure). People can cry about Ancient Elf and Tia being bullshit, but it's pretty unfair to call Forest a braindead class.
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>>161583650
card draw
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>>161583650

If you are dragon or blood you are fucked
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>>161583650
not playing cards
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>>161583338
Well, this one is like that, but it boosts those followers on the field as if a spell was played.
Actually, change it from fanfare to attack.
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>>161583547
>not dusting the literal worst card in the game
stay cucked
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>>161578970
I run 5 petrify effects in my deck.
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>kripp opening new rngstone packs
>literally get 170+ of the same shitty card out of 500ish packs
How can blizz get away with this?
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>>161583650
Play Haven
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How do you nerf PtP without killing it?
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>>161583768
>Worst card in the game
That's not Meme Dealer.
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>>161583982
You're a real hero, anon.
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>>161584017
Wrong thread fuckcuck
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>>161583982
God bless
I want to tease and suck on her cute little nipples
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>>161584036
doesn't need nerfs, nerf forest cards
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Can I get a concede?

62137
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Reminder both Dragon and Shadow are better decks than Haven
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>>161584017
>tfw kripp and the other streamers are forced to keep shilling heartstone when they like SV more
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>>161584036
The only way you'll kill it is by making generated cards not create a shadow.
Even if you make it 6+ cost and deal damage on your turn start, it'll be used.
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>instant concede in ranked

Why do people do this?
>>
>start up the game
>7 standard packs + 6 DE packs in crate

????
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>>161584346

If you get a hand like 5 5 6 you might as well save yourself the time.
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>>161584272
By forest, I mean. Otherwise, nerf forest and snowmen to make it about as useful as prince, or seraph.
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>>161584202
Thank you Ding Dong
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>>161584367
>open all 13 of them
>0 legendary
>5 golds
WAKE ME UP
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>>161584202
why does she looks so much cuter with glasses?
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>>161584484
because you like nerds
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>>161584484
because you have shit taste
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>Literally put /hsg/ in the op to fuck with people who search it in the catalog
Are you guys serious?
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>>161584262
kripp plays sv?
proofs?
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>>161584556
hownew.ru
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>wanting to dust some card to complete atleast a Storm Haven deck
>but expansion in 1 month and some cards might get nerfed for max dust value.
To dust or not to dust?
I need like 1 Aria, 2 Pinion Prayer and a second Garuda atleast
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>>161584484
Everything looks better with glasses
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>oh fuck he played PTP
>4 turns later
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This was a weird game, Seraph vs aggro bats, and both of us got bad draws. They stalled out and I had no win condition
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>>161584463
BEFORE YOU GO GO
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>tfw you will never be Luna's big brother and bring her to the beach
>tfw she will never be scared of the ocean because she doesn't know how to swim
>tfw you will never teach her how and praise her for being such a fast learner
>tfw you will never build a sand castle together
>tfw you will never get excited from seeing her in her cute swimsuit and take her behind a rock outcropping to make love
It hurts
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>>161584108
That's not Phoenix Roost
>>
If you are interested in playing in a tournament with /svg/ players, please register below.

http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/47fd64TuEx 7:00 pm EST, Friday December 2nd. BO3 Single elim.

If there is enough interest in /svg/ hosted tournaments, I will offer steam cards to winners in the future.
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>>161584712
>she doesn't know how to swim
WEAKLING
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>>161583764
The most redundant way to say "Legendary Spell: Summon Isabelle" possible. I don't think Penguin Wizard is important enough to force a convoluted new mechanic over just a standard spellboost proc and making interesting spellboost decks that aren't just Dshift triggers.

>>161584017
>"Yay, new Hearthstone expansion."
>The packs are bugged
>You're better off not touching them
It's amazing.
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post homos
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>>161584554
That was the joke initially but now some hsg autist gets upset and tries to hijack the thread because of it

So now we do it just to wind him up
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>>161584889
>>
I hate elana so much.
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>>161584554
>tfw i did it to triggerrngstone
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>>161584463
We are very close to that outcome

This is the DE packs

Also in case it wasn't clear I was wondering where I got those packs from. They weren't there yesterday.
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>bannerfag misplays like a retard countless times like leaving vampy alive and not killing my bats
>is upset when he loses
So this is Rank A huh?
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MAKE PTP SHADOW ONLY
REMOVE SHADOWS FROM ALL OTHER CLASSES
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Should I start playing the Elana/Seraph hybrid?
Anyone got a good list for it?
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>>161584603
guess u was jus baiting xD
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What did he mean by this?
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>>161585004
>Also in case it wasn't clear I was wondering where I got those packs from. They weren't there yesterday.

6 million user milestone and the MtG team that two of the devs are on did very well at a national event (one dev came in first and the other made it to Top 4)
>>
HOW TO GET IDOL SLEEVES?
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>>161585040
Consider playing a less degenerate class please like Swordcraft or Forestcraft
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>>161584903
Well that's a good reason I suppose, I was just kind of surprised that searching /hsg/ got me sent to here, have they nerfed Havencraft yet? I was starting to get into the game but Ive heard bad things about this bitch with the dumb hat
Even though I was planning on playing healing havencraft and swordcraft when I got enough vials
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>>161585065

>turn 3 4/5 while also bouncing shit like Elf May back to your hand

OH GEE I WONDER WHY HE IS UPSET

Kill yourself, elf scum
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>>161584712
I love these posts
>>
Breast girl.
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>>161585201
The Forest is kind.
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>>161585198
Not yet, sadly

>>161585258
>Hagisa
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>>161580740
>>161580798

>>161580408
cool I got all 8 animated cards with that free pack, guess everything is possible
>>
>tfw no idol leaders
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>>161585171
I already play Tempo Forest, PtP Forest, and Control Sword. I used to play non-Elana Seraph but I wanna see how much better the Elana version is.
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>>161585027
Shadows aren't Shadowcraft's primary mechanic and PtP is boring so why would you want it in Shadow?
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>>161585065
That's some tough shit but it's not insurmountable as blood.
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>>161585040
Are you below A rank?
Elana Seraph works great up until AA. Fter that, there's a sharp fall off.
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>>161585198
Haven is not that strong the class is good and cheap thebgiys that were complaiming are just shitters.

Now these shitters are B rank and today are complaining about sword
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>>161585547
What did he mean by this
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>>161585171
>Ungacraft
>Elf whores
>Not degenerate
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>>161585340
She's had plenty of time to gain experience.
>>
I still don't get what's the difference between control and midrange.

Also, should I craft control shadow or midrange shadow?
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>>161585547
>Has two different decks that both have very good winrates all the way up to master
>Not that strong
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>>161585607
>ungacraft

i keked even though I'm a sword main
I-is control sword fine?
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>>161585607
>Boku no Kuso avatar fag B rank Haven main thinks his opinion matters
Sad!
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>>161585409
so nobody else can use it
isnt it ironic that shadow is the worst at gaining mass shadows
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>>161585607
I want to protect this smile
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>>161585671
Read this https://shadowverse.com/articles/detail.php?id=column-024

>Unlike aggro decks, a control deck aims to stay in control of the match through all stages of the game. This archetype typically finishes the opponent in one fell swoop at the end.

>A midrange deck aims to win by utilizing the strength of each and every card...However, midrange decks generally try to overwhelm the opponent with sustained power.

Theres more articles for each of the 3 main archetypes
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>>161585536
No I'm in AA now.
I ran Seraph till AA0 and then it stopped working as well, but not the hybrid.
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>>161584484
Every girl looks cuter with glasses.
>>
>turn 2beastcall aria into
>turn 3 hallowed dogma
How is this even remotely fair?
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>>161585684
Yes yes say that about sword too.

Shitterrs complain to anything that they lose
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>>161585810
fags are not allowed on /svg/. this game is for hetero loli lovers only.
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>>161581884

is this better?
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>>161585938

git gud
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>>161584889
Ewww taking him out of my deck as we speak.
>>
>>161585993
Absolutely
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>>161585972
Sword is better than Haven sure, but trying to say that Haven isn't strong because it has a fraction of a % lower winrate than Sword is dumb.
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>>161585984
Loli a shit
Cowtits are superior
>>
>>161585993

Would keep. How many packs is that?
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>>161585993
I'd keep it, but I hate rerolling
If you do keep it, make sure to dust Homecoming for 800 vials
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>>161585993
Transform Homecoming into Vials right now by the way, it was nerfed so it gives full value.
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>>161585993
that's a fantastic roll
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>>161585717
I'm not a Haven main though I just use it from time to time.

>>161585706
""""Control"""" Sword is still just "Turn Dudes Sideways: Now With Wards Edition
I have no hatred of any class in particular, I even play Banner on occasion. I just think it's retarded to get on a high horse about your class of choice when all classes have good stuff and bullshit in them.

>>161585984
I'm not a lolicon I just like short chicks.
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>>161585201
Forest is balanced by being the most expensive class to play :^)
The difference between a deck with 3 Acient Elf and one without any of them is huge, i bet that card alone is worth a +30% win rate
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>>161585984
>fags
URARARARARAKA IS A GIRL!
A CUTE GIRL!
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>>161585993
nice legos and free 800 vials
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MOM LOOK AT THIS STREAK

I WENT UP A NUMBER RANK!
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>>161586213
frog is cuter and best though
>>
I got this within this month, is it worth it? and what deck can I possibly do? got havencraft prayer, but i dont really like it.

Also tips with bloodcraft, is the one I win more but still dont know how its working
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>>161586174
>I just like short chicks.

I have the Dork just for you!
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>>161585938
and don't forget the turn 1 pinion prayer!
>2 2/1 eagles with storm and a 4/4 lion by turn 3
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>>161586287
Could work toward midrange or control sword
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>>161585862
Don't bother then. Build dragon or shadow instead. The meta has moved enough so that those decks are very playable up there while Seraph not so much.
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>>161586287
post your golds too

play earth rite
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>>161586174
You're so full of shit, dude
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>>161582906
does this take time to come through? I've lined it with a googleplay account but I still have quest and no packs.
>>
>>161586287
You could just play aggrobats, it doesn't require any legendaries.
>>
>>161586105
21 expansion +17 standard +1 standard with gold
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>>161586287
You can do Sword if you don't like Haven, its pretty good. You can do some good Haven shit though
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>>161585938
It's a deck for sandbagging and farming between D and A0
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>>161586262
>Frog cute
Yes, all the designs for girls are top tier in BnHA
>cute(r)
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>>161586262
This is true

>>161586341
I don't play Dragons though. Also I want Danua to be a card.

>>161586390
>>161585938
I feel like the only Shadow player that's not bothered by Haven.
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>tfw people keep calling midrange sword "control"
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>>161586445
But I hate Dragon and Shadow.
Guess I'll just stick to tempo forest.
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>>161586462
Explain
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>/hsg/ openly admits to wanting to have sex with an anthropomorphic panda

>>161585805
>>
>>161585065
Control Blood has a 35% winrate vs Forest, and the only way they win is if they can avoid losing earlygame, because they absolutely cannot afford to reach vengeance because of balanced roaches of 20 hand damage.

The only worse matchups in the game are DShift vs whatever aggro.
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>>161586719
Nice Shadowverse discussion
>>
>>161586719
I'd fuck a pandaren
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>>161586719
To be fair we're not much better
>>
Is dshift without merlin too shitty?
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>>161585993
came with these holos

dem silver knight and queen medb tits
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>>161586719
damn...
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>tfw currently 0-3 in t2
>>
Is there a list of golds and legos I can mindlessly liquefy?
>>
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>>161586719
>he doesn't want to fuck anything and everything that moves
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>>161586602
Luna looks a little strange there. Her nose is red, does she have a cold?
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>>161586719
furfags will be sent to the gas chambers
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>/svg/ tries to look down on /hsg/ when people like >>161586907 post ITT
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>>161586907
You can do it!
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>>161587008

Homecoming.
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>>161586828
Being Lunasexual is completely natural.
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>>161586775
Shitting on inferior games is all part of the general experience, friendo.

>>161586828
I'd befriend a Lunafag years before I'd befriend a furfag
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>>161586887
It's alright. I'm in B3 and it's good enough to do my Rune dailies with no problems.
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>>161586891
>animated vampy
Top jealous
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>>161587030

She might be feeling a little sludgy.
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>>161587067
>>161587071
0-4!
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>>161587180
Doesn't sound like it's worth crafting my missing 2 dshifts then.
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>>161587283
Post your T2 dick.
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>>161587067
>mfw I post in both
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Why is Vampy gold while the flying chuunibyou is legendary? Vampy is cuter and more popular.
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What's the chance to get 8 Animated leggos? What's the chance to get the /same/ 8 animated leggos?
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>>161587330
Don't you want more people to be able to experience the joy of unpacking a Vampy?
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alex and leo or aurelia and odin? first pair
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>>161587316
>mfw I play both HS and SV and enjoy seeing the plebs squabble
Fu fu fu
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>>161587067
>Complaining about frogposters on 4chan
/hsg/ is practically nothing but frogposters.
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>wake up
>no new expansion release
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>>161587507
You forgot your Malcom X
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>havenshitter has aria(1), 3 amulets and a hare ward out
>summon and pass my turn
>his tiger falls off the board
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>>161587507
At least we got 13 packs.
>>
>>161587507
Cagliostro rune leader when
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>>161587484
I'd play if it was easier for a guy who hasn't really played it in a long time to get back into it.
As it is now I'm several expansions behind so I feel too intimidated to even try.
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>>161587332
the real chance to get 8 anim is a lot higher than random since they rig packs to do that

i wonder if anyone's gotten 7
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triggered

why
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>>161587607
Next expansion
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>>161587484
>fire up HS again
>play renolock
>watch my rag miss his entire board and hit his face twice in a row
>close HS

that was fun
>>
>>161587607
After sword gets an Otohime leader.

Pompous Princess is fine too.
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>>161586287
my golds
I ended up in C2 this month but I want to get at least to B or A if possible.

>>161586483
I saw one of those before, I got something like that but its kind of weak agains knights
>>
When is expansion coming?
>>
which girl has the biggest tits
>>
>>161587950
Isabelle or Magisa
>>
>>161587484
>>161587661
I'd play HS if I didn't hate the damn game.

>>161587665
DELETE THIS
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>>161587665
>that webm

Damn, that's actually really fucked up. Poor froggo
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>>161588006
>ywn be sandwiched between Isabelle and Magisa
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>>161588130
>implying

VR soon
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2slow
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Why is non dshift spellboost rune so much fun?
>>
>>161588130
>Not Rosetta and Magisa
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>>161588279
b-bakana
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>>161588290
Who poured oil on these old ladies? Mistreating the elderly is wrong.
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>>161588368
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>>161587931
Sometime in December
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>Haven player gets butthurt at their own bullshit beating them
Amazing
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>>161588436
2cute
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>>161588436
I never noticed that her head wings twitch, she's so cute
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>>161588436
>dick goes where?
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Would you rather be Vampy's kenzoku or Luna's onii-chan?
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>>161586891
>dusting 1 holo card doesnt give you enough to make a regular card of the same rarity
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>>161587724
How else do you think they're gonna force you to buy packs? Just be glad they don't make it so that you have to buy upgrades to your cards or something
>>
>>161588770
Forte's battle brother.
>>
>literally just went 1st all 5 T2 games
they seriously need to fix this shit
>>
>>161588770
Luna is my onahole.
>>
>>161587931
>>161588471
Latter half of December
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>>161588368
I had the same happen to me just a few hours ago. 0-5 with sword.

In my defense, I went first 5 times and always had a shitty start despite having an okay curve.
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>>161588921
Stop talking that way about my wife.
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>>161589064
You have a mental disease seek help
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I wish Luna wasn't a DFC.
>>
Seraph's a pretty solid counter deck when you're facing Elana literally every other game
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>>161588770
Why did they give vampy big breasts?
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Continue building the wall!
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>>161589106
Where do you think we are?
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>>161588913

The new enhance mechanic is probably added to try to fix that
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>>161588436
>eyes change color
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>>161589201
Improving her.
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>>161589165
You have to go back
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>>161589285
thats a buff to dragon and thats it
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>>161589332
I hope they give every loli bigger breasts.
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>>161589228
13chag
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>>161585063
kripp streams SV occasionally

the question is, why does it matter to you shitter?
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>it's a luna doujin
>by as109
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wat do
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>>161589639
Right. Aurelia is good and even if Leonidas is too slow, Arerererelia will probably slow it down enough.

Or left whatever, both those are fine.
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>6pp 7/12

? ? ?
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>>161589639
Left, you don't know if your going to get to procc saber's effect and while leonidas is good Lucifer and Alwida are more consistent.
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>>161589639
I'd pick Right just because I've never taken Lucifer and had him do anything other than gain 4/deal 4 and then die.
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>>161589639
both
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>tfw you are the cancer
for haven dailies
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>>161589639
Left.

I had right in my draft here >>161589050. Never managed to play Leonidas. Way too slow.
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>>161589639
I'd pick left purely because Alwida's
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>>161589639
Left. Filling the board with a ward and a stormed pirate/viking helps to add damage to face while maintaining some defensive board control on your end.
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>>161589761
I get you answering his question, but why are you posting yourself playing solitaire
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Anyone mind conceding for my mission?

ID 51549
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Thoughts on Kaguya? I was thinking of teching her into Elana Seraph.
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>>161589639
ok I took left and then

>>161589793
kek thanks for the advice friendo
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>mfw the only legendaries I got from the free packs were an Animated Pascale and Bloody Mary
>mfw I don't play Rune or Blood
It's not fair
>>
Bro tier:
Shadowcraft.
Bloodcraft.

You're alright tier:
Swordcraft
Dragon.

Die in a fucking fire tier:
Forest
Rune
Haven.

This about right lads?
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>>161589481
>buffing every loli
panic
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>>161590080
Is it really solitaire if I'm not running Dshift?
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>>161590220

SHADOWCRAFT TIME SOON
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>>161590169

Thank you Alucard anon
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>>161590218
Swordcraft is our friend
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>>161590172
She's cute but I think she's got a boyfriend already.
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>>161590172
I fucking love this card. I tech one into any haven deck I run as well just because I love the design and voice lines. Also it's a solid drop and the amulet is useful.
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>>161590218
move rune up and sword down
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>If you play any type of control deck you autolose to Dshit

I hope they print a hate amulet that prevents multiple spell casts each turn.
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Medusa is my wife
Leader when?
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>>161590208
TIME TO PLAY DIRT, DIRT IS CALLING YOU
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>>161590220
It would probably make SV more accessible since people won't have to worry about seeing sexualized children.
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>>161590449
>move rune up

nah fuck you
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>>161590472
But dirt is boriiiiiiiiing
gimme a list senpai
>>
>Draw all 3 Blackened Scriptures in the first 3 turns against Shadow
I'm so sorry, Luna
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>>161590486

>luna and vampy are sexualized

that's just us doing that, there's nothing inherently sexual about them.
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>>161590579
Guide to OFFICIAL /svg/ deck Dirtrune:

ALWAYS CARRY THREE:
Scrap Iron Smelter
Apprentice Alchemist
Crafty Warlock (debatable)
Petrification
Kaleidoscopic Glow

OTHER IMPORTANT CARDS:
Bellringer Angel
Totally Balanced Mage Levi
Remi and Rami
Ancient Alchemist
Pascale
Calamitous Curse
Juno's Secret Laboratory

And other low-cost sigil creating spells (red hot ritual, teachings of creation, price of magic)

OPTIONAL:
Commence Experiment for a cheap sigil
Unica
Winter's Caprice
Witchbolt
Veteran Alchemist
Shadow Witch
Twin Guardians
Alchemical Lore (Yes, it's expensive but can be useful in a pinch)
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>>161590643
They probably gave up hope as soon as they saw you played haven.
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>>161590218
Die in a fucking fire tier:
all of you
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>>161590172
I use her in seraph but not really useful so far
>>
Hrmmm so if money was not an issue and there was one deck that would boost me to Masters rank to try and get a top 1000 spot what deck would it be?

Mid-range Sword?
Control Sword?
Elana Haven?
Shadow Haven?
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>>161590452
kys haven shit
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>>161590218
>blood
>retards who just SMOrc and cut themselves
>shadow
>hipster cucks
>sword
>mongoloids with 30 IQ
>dragon
>degenerate scalie faggots

>Forest
>intelligent and cunning
>Rune
>peerless masters of strategy
>Haven
>virtuous and honorable

Terrible list
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>>161590823
I'm playing full built shadow control you dumb fairy poster.
>>
>t2
>dragon
>1st 5 times in a row
cygames pls
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>>161590897
>t2
>dragon
>2nd 3 times in a row so far
Sorry man.
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>>161590838

>Haven
>virtuous and honorable

You keep telling yourself that. Eris's sorry is so well done, that it seems like they're actually ashamed of what they're playing/doing.
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>>161590838
>Heh look at me being so contrarian, I'm so cool *vapes*
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>>161590838
>Haven
>virtuous and honorable
Not with all the loli bullying Haven does.
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>>161590838
This guy knows what's up
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>>161590838
this is the correct list
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>>161591024
>original post praising blood and shadow
>people only like them because they're shit unpopular decks right now and 4chan is full of retarded hipsters
>but I'm the contrarian

This general gets stupider every single day
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>>161590974
still went 4-1, but that 1 I lost I'm convinced I'd have won if I were 2nd. Feels bad man.
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>>161591170
Luna deserves to be bullied
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Thanks for the turn 6 dshift, senpai
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>>161591267
I like Shadow because I like degenerate graveyard mechanics.

This general is dumb as fuck and filled with lolicons and sword shitters.
I enjoy it here.
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>>161591501
Same, I like Shadow's Necro mechanic better than anything so I decided to "main" it.

Not really assed if its top/mid/shit tier.
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>>161590314
eris has drooping, saggy hag tits
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>>161591674

she's still 2nd place for default leader titties.

If we're talking non-default, then it's a different ball game.
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>>161591852
Forte's tits aren't even that big in Shadowverse. Isabelle is still first place snd Eris still second.
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Why is Elana so fucking popular?

Other decks are better and cheaper
>>
Anyone else find Eris incredibly attractive, sexual, and rapable?
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>No new story chapters
????
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>it's a go first 5 times in a row episode
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>>161590814
Mid sword is the best ladder deck of those
Unless you mean storm haven for the last one, that's also really good.

CSword unfortunately struggles against some of the most popular decks in the higher ranks
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>>161591931
>ranking according to size
That's not what matters most in tits anon
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>>161592042
I'm thinking of playing Elana just to torture non-banner aggro decks
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>>161592228
stop playing bad decks
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>>161592132
yes
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>>161592228
stop playing sword you retard
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>kaleidoscoped 3 times by turn 5 as storm haven

His little heart couldn't take it
>>
>>161592042
It plays itself
Like shit, when there are bots programmed to go into ranked with a deck, you know there's a problem
>>
>>161592132
no, no and sure
>>
>>161592390
sword is best going first pleb
>>
>play control blood
>get matched against dshift 4 fucking times in a row
>switch to bats
>control sword
fuck you, game
>>
>>161592489
Is this bait?
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>>161592398
Ids habbendigg
>>
Why does everyone hate Rune when they don't even have 1 T1 deck?
>>
>>161592546
Having initiative on buffs is bad? Are you ok in the head?
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>>161592297
>play elana versus a proper aggro deck
>die on turn 5

cool
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somebody post the 2ch guide for the ranked bug so I can get ez rewards
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>>161592543
>Switch to control sword
>Immediately get matched against PtP
He draws like shit and I win anyway
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>>161592580
dropped
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>>161592398
>>161592580
EZ GAME
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>>161592580
>Havencancer
>People
Lol
>>
post the BEST midrange sword deck
>>
>>161592660
Anon...
I don't know how to tell you this, but:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/46/0/2
Sword has the most lopsided turn 2 winrates in the game because the class is stupid. Even Banner wants to go second.
>>
>>161592660
Sword has the biggest first-second differential out of any class in the game anon

It's been recorded over thousands of games
>>
>>161592858
3 floral fecner + 3 otohime + autofill
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>>161592858
20x Pompous Princess
20x Quickblader
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>>161592978
where are the aurelias
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i need a concede!

77162
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>>161592228
>I go first as Shadowcraft
>have Burial ground in opening hand.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>>
>>161593048
>Using Memerelia
>>
How is a card as broken as Tia not complained about as much as Haven's cards?
>>
>>161592905
>>161592921
what the hell when did this happen
>>
>>161593113

>opening the door easily for aggro and Dshift
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>>161593190
Forest being broken is a given
>>
>>161593067

t-thanks alucard-san
>>
>>161593190
Same reason Roach isn't
>>
>>161593205
Probably soon after they put you into cryostasis.
>>
>>161593190
because I can't interact with amulets
>>
>>161593205
I'm pretty sure Sword has always wanted to go second since they introduced the draw two for player 2, maybe even before then. Floral Fencer is absurdly broken and because the class is so minion focused having an extra evolve is really powerful.
>>
we did it /svg/
someone saw my elana emblem, sleeves, salty flair, and saudi flag, and insta-disconnected in ranked
:^)))
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>>161593225
aurelia doesn't do shit to dshift
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>>161592905
>rune has the highest winrate
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>>161593190
Because most of this general is pseudo-intellectual forestfags thinking their shit doesn't stink
>>
>>161593190

Because Tia, Ancient Elf, Roach and Cynthia are broken
>>
>>161593385

its a ward that needs to be dealt with unless she wanna risk not killing in dshift combo
>>
>>161593385
If you somehow manage to get them to play 3 things Aurelia will win you the game on the spot. It's become easier now that some dshifts are teching in the earth essence that makes a 0/2 ward
>>
>>161593190
how is a card as broken as floral fencer not complained about as much as other 4 drops?
>>
>>161593409
No, lowest winrate versus sword.
>>
So is everyone just hoarding gold now until the end of December?
>>
>>161593439
Actually, we had a poll. Most of this general is Shadowfags and Swordfags. Hence all the whining about Elana.
>>
>>161593190
Because lots of forest players aren't actually good and use it without being able to bounce tia and then I just kill the 6/x and tia and re-establish board.
>>
>>161591267
This. It's like everybody has already forgotten how annoying shadow was pre-DE. Although I'm guessing most of the thread now is people who started playing after steam's release.
>>
>>161593558
Let's complain about both together
>>
>>161593190
Tia's good but Ancient Elf is way better

Tias' either 7 mana, an evolve on a prior turn or you don't get the full effect
>>
>>161593673
Proofs?
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feels good bullying vampy with bats
>>
I'm one of those weird guys who just loses Take Two because his hand was shit, aren't I?

Lost plenty of times when going second due to my hand just sucking.
>>
>>161593662
>So is everyone just hoarding gold now until the end of December?
I am but I've already got like 7 decks
>>
>>161593558
>Floral Fencer is good
I don't get this meme desu
>>
>>161593776
Those aren't bats
I've been had!
>>
>>161593558
Floral fencer is maybe a tiny bit better than other classes 4 drops.
Tia is a fucking 8 drop for 5.
>>
>>161593686
>haven used to be a bro-tier class because it was shit
>now everyone hates it
Why is 4chan so fucking contrarian?
>>
So what does everyone think is getting nerfed come RoB patch?
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>>161592905
>>161592921
So I decided to play a random game in ranked to test it and yeah, I basically drew the nuts and annihilated the poor guy simply because of the power of going second. He was playing CSword.
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>>161593931
Hopefully Aria.
Probably not much though, the devs don't seem to be very nerf-happy. I would be surprised if they nerfed more than two cards.
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Longest match of shadowverse I've ever played, used every single card, 20+ turns, and only lost because he had an olivia in there
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>>161593931
Roach
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>>161593925

>haven used to be a bro tier class

Lies. Haven deck was a Satan deck. They literally just stalled until they could drop Satan.

It was shit but still cancer.
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>>161593673
sounds like waifufags to me
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the possibilities are infinite
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>>161592905
>The completely follower based class benefits from an extra evolve and more cards
.....whoa...........
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whats the new expansion about?
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>>161593662
Aye, but I have like 8 decks done by this point.
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How is your potential vial stockpile
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>T2
>2 lucifers in hand
>die on turn 7
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concede please

58063
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>>161593921
>Floral fencer is maybe a tiny bit better than other classes 4 drops.

6 0 % (S I X T Y - P E R C E N T)
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>>161594240
>They end up not nerfing anything
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Fuck Royal Banner
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>>161593925
>2 Drop with 6/5 in stats added to the game

yeah i wonder why
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>>161593884

woops wrong pic
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>>161592858
>hit auto
done
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Spent 3 turns at 1hp against Face Dragon who couldn't draw damage or storm, poor Rowen.
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>>161594359
Maybe they'll nerf Will of the Forest and give Elf a new board clear
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>>161594096
maybe you lost because the win condition isn't solitaire:draw all you cards
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>>161594496
Why would they nerf a card that's strong but not even close to overpowered?
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>>161594359
If Cygames nerfed everything shitters cried about Otohime would be deleted by now
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>>161594578
There are people who want to nerf Dshift and Elana so
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>>161594148
You do know that, if you just play amulets you're gonna get flooded and die to a field of wind god buffed fairies, right? Assuming he didn't draw like shit of course.
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>>161594578
Same reason they nerfed harvest and homecoming and not Ancient Elf or Roach
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Which card?
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>Try to fight Elana.
>No way to stop it until turn 8 Odin.
>They've already ripped me to shreds by that point because I forced to (attempt) to control the board lest they go hulk mode.
>They proceed to drop another Elana as soon as I Odin the 1st.

Seems to me that unless you play Elf or Lolibats, you may as well flip a coin on whether or not you win against Elana, because there's no fucking skill there. Just luck in hoping you draw what you need and they don't. 100% cancer, give me Tempo Elf/D-shift anyday.
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>>161594496

Let's play a game, chose one overpowered forest card to nerf

Fairy Beast
Will of the Forest
Ancient Elf
Tia
Roach
Cynthia
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>>161594647
I wish Otohime were deleted
>>161594709
DShift
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>>161594338
What the fuck are you saying?
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>>161594709

Dark Angel Olivia?
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>>161594237
Our lord and savior Bahamut and the Enhance keyword.
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I will shine!
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>>161594741
Correct
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>>161594726
Fairy Beast and Will aren't overpowered. They're just strong.
I also think Tia is okay and if Cynthia didn't have her dumb evolve effect she'd be fine too. People have a hard time separating "very good card I lose to" from "actually overpowered card"
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>>161594741
And I wish Otohime would give me a footjob but we can't all get what we want
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>>161594523
He removed my mythril golem it's not my fault
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>got +1 Ancient Elf and Tia from the freebie packs
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>>161594719
even winning against elena with lolibats is pretty RNG

if they get the dream curve, plea, aria, elena, you're pretty fucked
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>>161594719
>Just luck in hoping you draw what you need and they don't
>give me D-shift anyday.
Dshift's matchups are much more lopsided than Elana's based on deck type. You don't know what you are talking about.
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>>161594907
dude that's lewd
>>
does Gauntlet Healer have the fattest ass in the game?
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>>161594869
>Tia is ok

Tia should cost 6 just so elf has to actually play a value game to get to late game.
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>>161594240
>mfw I dusted everything yesterday
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>>161594709
Altered fate?
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>>161594907
She's just a midget nerd compared to the goddesses in Swordcraft
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>>161594974
>Winning with an aggro deck depends on your curve
woah
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>tfw when you top deck the sexiest and most majestic card of them all, garuda, to win
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>>161594690
he quit turn 5 after he got btfo by barrage elana and cudgel
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>>161594997
I'm going to impregnate that sexy sea midget's silky smooth feet
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>>161594982
>Dshift's matchups are much more lopsided than Elana's based on deck type.

I know that, at least I can say "yeah I had no chance from the beginning".

Elana makes you think you have a chance only to either make you eat shit or completely brick based on card draws.
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>>161595107
aurelia > tsubaki > otohime > lesbian maid
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>>161594857
>board of four fuckers
>he drops elf whore
>i will shine x4
Stop telling me what you do with dick you slut.
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>mfw making a fun deck
>playing vs other fun decks
Actually having fun
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>>161594857
Cynthia is my cool and useful wife!
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>losing to a seraph deck before turn 8
impressive
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>>161594719
even with aggro decks if they get a third turn elena i usually scoop unless i've got a kickass hand

trying to fight into an elena that early is just frustrating, i'd rather take my loss and get on with the next game
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>>161595241
>losing with weak "original" deck
>fun
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>>161595241
so you're playing T2
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>>161594869
>tia is okay
>playing 8 PP for 5 is okay

How though?
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>>161595305

MOOOOOOOOOOM
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>>161595175
Tsubaka > Erika > Otohime > Aurelia
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>>161595305
One time I out-faced a face dragon with my non-elana Seraph deck. And it was definitely a face dragon and not a ramp dragon.
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>>161595254
Your wife is my meat toilet.
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>open pack
>it's another "7 bronze, 1 silver"

My parents gave me the worst luck stat imaginable.
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>>161595420
You might want to reread what he wrote anon.
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>>161595305
nice I see you are playing beast call aria Haven that is also my favourite class to play
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>>161595420
are you retarded
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>>161595393
No she's not. Go fuck your meat toilet maid, elves are for cherishing.
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>>161595420
>reading comprehension
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>>161595340
No, private.
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>>161595420
>average aggro player reading comprehension
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>>161595475
>>161595490
>>161595498
Soz, it's hard to keep up with your ridiculous complaints
>if my enemy gets a perfect curve while I don't they tend to win
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>>161595445

You can't be worse than me, I once went 50 packs without a leggo
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>>161595445

Maybe you shouldn't have given them the worst child imaginable.
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>>161595310
But if you're aggro and they played Elana on curve they're fucked unless you drew like shit
Its a literal skip turn 3
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>Get 3rd Cerb and 1st Lord of Flies from free packs.
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>>161595310
dropping elana on 3 is a game losing play against aggro
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>KAZORU MAMORU TAMENI

What did he mean by this?
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>>161595636
Bruh
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>>161594857
I hate the 1/1s she spawns. Dumb elf
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>>161595609
>moving the goalposts
That's even more embarrassing then the reading failure.
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>>161595642
you're lying fuck off.
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>>161595638
>t1 Plea
>t2 BLACKED
>t3 Elana
>Get pinged for 1 damage on t3 which they immediately heal back up anyway
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>>161595727
I didn't move shit
>even with aggro decks if they get a third turn elena i usually scoop unless i've got a kickass hand
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>>161595741
Felt great, crafted the 2nd lord off of dusting a animated fafnir
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>>161595872
So you're shit then? Okay
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>>161595636
Damn, anon chill he didn't do anything to you.
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>>161594907
>at dinner with her royal family
>her feet and tail are all over your dick
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I just beat some kind of meme blood burn deck that doesn't play followers only because I teched crest wizard in here for the dshift matchup.
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>>161595874
>dusting animated leggos
some people create their own luck I guess
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>Against Arisa on turn 5
>Ancient Elf on empty board, Nature's Guidance, Concede
Wow, someone who draws worse than I do for once.
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>>161595953
You are complaining that if they get perfect curve while you get a shit hand you lose, as if this was somehow inherent to Elana.
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>>161595648
Not if the aggro isn't 100% on curve and they have any healing minions in hand. At that point they can start outhealing you because if you ignore their minions and keep going face, they'll go super sayain all the while healing and clearing your board.

Of course, if they don't have healing minions, T3 Elana is terrible. But T3 Elana into T4 Healing Rabbit into T5 Radiance Angel is fucked to play against unless the aggro player has literally the perfect hand.
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>2 lucifers in deck in take 2
>6 cards left in deck
>opponent has no cards left
>never draw lucifer
>top decks angelic snipe for lethal
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>>161593662
Nope I still need tons of cards
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>>161596113
I don't care about animated cards at all, time is money friend and id rather have a better playable deck today then a shiny mediocre legendary for a deck i'll need 3 fortes for which i have none of anyways.

All this mising is only increasing chance you burn out, just optimize your short term gains.
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Some dude said he wanted me to post screenshots of me buying crystals to support this game. Here you go bro. I decided to do it today and do the daily deals.
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>>161595828
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>>161596071
Ungh oh god I'm not even I footfag but I need to suck on her toes
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>>161595364
>for 5

Why do retards keep saying this? You realize it has a conditional right?
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>>161595660
>KAZOKU MAMORU TAMENI
He will protect his familly by leaving them alone for years.
He doesn't know it yet but anon is already is son-in-law.
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>>161594656
Dshit is fucking retarded though
>do nothing literally the entire game
>turn 8 they auto win
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>>161596163
generally, an aggro deck is capable of a decent enough curve to punish a t3 elana far more often than the times that early elana pays off
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>>161596330
He was protecting them from himself though

:'(
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>tfw you scrape a win at 1 hp after all hope seemed lost without even top decking

I love this bunny.
>>
So I just started and I've been playing arena. How the fuck is sword allowed to get away with the shit it does? I'm new but not new to card games but it just runs through me every arena game.
>>
Instead of nerfing cards so they suck shit why not just limit the amount of them in the deck like a sensible card game?
>>
Who else disconnects when they are about to lose? Hang bitch hang.
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>>161596432
Because Sword is broken as fuck.
What I don't understand is why they thought Sword needed to have the best card draw minion in the game as a common after they were already top dog in arena AND constructed?
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>>161596432
Scrub class
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>>161596432
It's called being broken.
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>bloodcraft
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>>161596490
That's boring. Go back to Hearthstone.
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>>161596549
>Avant
>Good
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>>161596490
>Yu-Gi-Oh
>Sensible
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>>161596298
And?
Does that make it magically not 5?

Even playing her on 7 with two fairies is broken as fuck.
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WHY DOES MATCHMAKING ALWAYS SET ME UP WITH THE DECK THAT COUNTERS MINE

I AM HAVING AN ANEURYSM
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>>161596729
>arena
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>>161596691
How is that boring?
>card gets nerfed
>Literally unusable
>card gets limited to 1 or 2
>can still use it
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>>161596729
oh it's you
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>>161596490
>Like a really shitty card game

Actual card games like MTG have even less deck building restrictions and are much more dynamic and fun to begin with.
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>>161596490
Don't get fooled by some of these posts. Cygames literally nerfed one (1) card last expansion and somehow there are people in these threads fantasizing about them destroying several deck archetypes in one go.
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But I thought going second was OP?
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>>161596432
Because shitters need autopilot decks to play and don't know how powerfull other classes are like this shitter here>>161596549
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>>161596804
Both answers are bad.
The proper thing to do is gentle nerfs or release cards to help balance the meta. Which Cygames understands since that's what they've done so far.
>>
Actual thought tier
>Rune

Some math required tier
>Shadow
>Blood
>Forest

Play your cards on curve and swing at face tier
>Haven
>Sword
>Dragon
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>>161596863
obviously not in Seraph you idiot
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>>161596432
It's the best class at actually playing the game which means a lot in a inherently random format like arena.
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>>161596804

Because its arbitary as fuck and it was retarded when Yu-Gi-Oh did it. Let's make a bronze a one-off in every deck but still let 'em put in three legos.
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>>161596804
Eat shit
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>try to check cards left in deck and cards in graveyard
>accidentally press end turn
ahha epic loss dude X_DDDDDDDDD
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>>161596898
Sword is broken as fuck though. They're unarguably the best class in Take Two and one of the best in Constructed as well.
Yes, it is a scrub class, but at the same time it's also just really good in general.
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>>161596773
are you netdecking anon?
If you are its just rightful punishment.
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>>161596759
But Yu-Gi-Oh is a good TCG
>>161596837
Because magic is a boring slow piece of shit and depending on the format you play there are restrictions
>>161596907
Then why are there two decks at #1 while nothing else can literally even compete?
>>161596969
For every decent nerf there are 3 more that make the card useless
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>>161596910
t. Pseudo-intellectual runefag that ropes every turn
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>>161596804
Because then it's just a crap-shoot of if you draw it or not.
So instead of being consistently overpowered it becomes sometimes overpowered and sometimes not.
Which is shit to play against or with.
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>>161597015
there is an option to enable end turn and evolve confirmation.
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>>161596937
Actually even Seraph's better off going second because of the turn 4 evolve being their best anti-aggro tool
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>>161597056
>Then why are there two decks at #1 while nothing else can literally even compete?
There aren't?
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>>161597089
If this game had any semblance of decent draw power and wasn't just top decking shit it would be different.
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>>161597056
>Magic is slow and boring piece of shit

The only slow and boring piece of shit is you who must be constantly placated by lottery card games and has never actually put though into deck building ,reactive play, or thinking about the meta.
>>
So, this has cute anime girls and is fappable?

Count me in.
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>>161596354
i'd rather play against DShift than earthrite

besides, as long as you save a ward follower for turn 7-9 you can really fuck up their tempo
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>>161596910
I play dragon and I agree.
The only thought that goes into dragon is trying to make a deck that doesn't sucks as only facedragon has established decks that people use. Everything else is so shit nobody bothers saving it.
>>
which elite AI is the easiest to defeat?
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>>161597268
Don't fap to elves though. Especially not my wife >>161594857
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>>161597056
>Then why are there two decks at #1 while nothing else can literally even compete?
This entire post is bait but people get to AA and masters with tier 2 decks all the fucking time
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>>161597108
Oh yeah you're right I've seen that option but I didn't remember

I'll turn that on
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>trying to build any dragon deck
>open packs
>every sort of a card, legos, golden, for every deck BESIDE DRAGONCRAFT
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>>161596969
DELETE THIS

If not for this single change i would still never have touched shadowverse.
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>>161597231
This game has a ton of powerful draw options you retard.
Restricting cards is a bad solution. Nerfing things till they suck is also a bad solution. Proper balance and good card design is all you need.
This meta isn't even that imbalanced right now. Did you know Shadow, which everyone shits on, has an above 50% winrate with Aggro Shadow and Control Shadow?
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>>161597359
That means literally jack shit though. They wouldn't be able to if this game did the best 2 out of 3 like literally any competitive card game does. 1 win means jack shit.
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>>161597231
It does, but only for sword, haven, rune and forest.
Blood, shadow and especially dragon can go get fucked.
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>>161597341
Forest

>>161597056
>Then why are there two decks at #1 while nothing else can literally even compete?

>What is Midrange Sword
>What is Aggro Sword
>What is Elana Haven
>What is Seraph Haven
>What is Hybrid Haven
>What is PTP Forest
>What is Tempo Forest
>What is Dshift
>What is Control Shadow
>What is Face Dragon
>>
>>161597463
Well that's how the ranked system in this game works friend. Go back to yugioh or whatever.
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>>161597406
What's the big deal about it? They fixed an overpowered card.
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>>161597068
I actually usually play control blood. With rune you have to play around your card draw and spellboost, you could play magic missile and draw something that completely changes your turn.

>>161597319
I've pretty much only had success with Face dragon, I feel like dragon has the least amount of creativity in builds right now.
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>>161597576
Well don't try to say that because they can win a game every so often means the decks are actually viable consistently.
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Concede please

96476
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>>161597576
To be fair the ranked system in this game is pretty garbage. Best 2 out of 3 with sideboards would make ranked way less luck based.
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>>161597681
They are viable in the context of the game. Nobody cares about your standards.
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>>161596281
>already spending the crystals
save them for the expansion my dude
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>>161597394
Your game is trying to do you a favor.
Dragon sucks. I regret making cards for it.
Only face dragon is viable and every dragon deck is just "play shit on curve and hope you draw well enough to do so"
>>
>finally gave in and bought the hero bundle

At least now it won't bite on me every time I see my 4k rupies.
>>
>>161597709

>control is rendered even more unplayable.
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>>161597709
It would be cool but it is a mobile game after all. I do actually like how this game is fast enough compared to casual stone to play while traveling or waiting. I think the tradeoff is fine for a little more RNG in matchups.
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>>161597681
But they are viable because they all have above 50% winrates?
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>>161597740
They wouldn't be viable in a tournament
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>>161597642
(u)
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>>161597647
That's what you get when you have crap for draw and board clear.
All you can do is try to cram good cards into the deck and hope you draw them on curve.
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>>161597857
A tournament is where they are most viable to randomly snipe matchups unexpectedly when you can counter the meta. For example control shadow would shit on forest most of the time even if it loses straight to haven.
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>>161597853
How do they determine these stats? There's like a million different decks with match ups for every other deck so how do they figure these stats out?
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>>161597778
Hey there, discard dragon IS viable
>>
Would Haven be less cancer if every craft got some easy amulet removal?
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>>161597853
Yeah anon but remember those muh tournaments that the vast majority of people possibly couldn't give less of a fuck about

I mean who cares if you are winning with shadow, you wouldn't win if you took a plane to japan and competed there with tha pros and that's what truly matters :^)
>>
What beats Storm Haven and Elana Haven?
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>>161598015
People sign up to a service that records their wins. There's Shadow Record and Shadow Log. It gets relaly big sample sizes and you can look at winrates across each rank individually so the winrates are pretty reliable.
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>>161598130
Seraph Haven
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>>161598071
I feel like this might actually be true.
Which is a fucking shame because I vialed 2 angel crushers already since people said it was worthless.
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>>161598079
Haven would be absolute trash again, if the removal is banish or transformation.
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>>161598130
flag
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>>161598130

Nothing
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>>161598208
He's lying to you, Discard Dragon is literally one of the worst decks int he game
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>>161598130
Face Dragon
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>>161598130
dshift
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This dude had a Soul Dealer and two (2) Bloody Maries. In Take Two.
He had some serious balls to use the Soul Dealer on curve, i have to admit.
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>Dub
http://89.40.121.179/vo_101431040/e_00003.wav
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>>161598326
At least it can get decent draw.
Nobody has been able to get it to work yet but there is at least potential there.
While regular dragon is a dead end.

I guess the expansion might fix that though.
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>just in A3
>last three games were against people in AA0
What's up with this matchmaking?
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>>161597693
Thanks Arisa-chan
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>>161598130
Banner and midrange sword beat both.
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>>161598353
>dshift beating stormhaven
naw
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>>161598438

The good about that is that you will be getting 150+ with each win, and 70 something with each loss. A fair trade, I will say
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>>161596772
>does that make it not 5

Yes because unless you evolve a different minion for the combo pieces, it requires you to spend at the minimum 7 mana to activate her effect. In addition board space is another requirement because she takes 2 slots and typically she's activated with throwing fairies on board so she usually needs 4 slots on the board.

And the board space problem is very relevant if you actually play her. Sometimes you'd like to throw a ward on the board to stop storm minions you know are coming but have no way to remove things already there. So the card is well-designed because even if it's very strong in many situations, it also has downsides.

Compare this to a card like Otohime which just floods the board for 6 mana and almost always guarantees you card advantage over your opponent afterwards.
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>>161598419
>Original
http://89.40.121.179/vo_101021020/j_00001.wav
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>>161598435
>Regular Dragon is a dead end
Wrong.
Storm Ramp Dragon has an above 50% winrate, especially in the higher ranks. It's just the old Midrange Dragon that sucks. Dragon is actually in a pretty good spot, they're the 4th best class in the game.
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>>161598534
tl;dr: I'm a forest player pls don't nerf my waifu ;_;
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Sorry banner boy
Thank jesus I run 2 execute !!
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>>161598534
Yeah because otohime does not suffer from not having enough board space at all.
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>>161597049
NO I AM NOT
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>>161598762
>the struggle you see elana and banner fags do when you execute their main plan
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>>161598812
If you don't have enough board space for Otohime you don't need to play her.
The same is not true for Tia. Sometimes you really need that rush but just can't activate her and then play her.
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>>161598446
Arisa is a kind and benevolent leader
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>>161598868
B-B-But anon!!! 5 mana spell to remove 3 or 4 amulet is so terrible!!!!
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>>161598905
>Implying you can't just suicide fairies for more board space
Stop being purposefully obtuse
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>>161580673
anything they dont perceive to be fair
IE Beastcall Aria T2, Hallowed Dogma T3
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>>161598967
I mean... control sword doesn't really need execute to crush banner.
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>>161599015
maybe he really didn't think of that? don't overestimate anons
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>>161598967
it is
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>>161598967
I can't complain cause I use Elana too
>>
I just got 13 free packs, does that happen at the end of every month?
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>>161598616
Have you played storm ramp dragon?
It's just playing shit on curve and hoping you had a good draw.
It is not a fun deck to play with.
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>>161598967
>>161598868

>get your elena executed, it's so fucking expensive to do that's literally his turn
>drop seraph
>long awkward enemy turn where nothing of importance happens because he can't possibly do 17 damage in 1 turn after wasting previous turn on execute
>dogma dogma healingprayer

ppl think they're smart running this shit lmao
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>>161599130
yes
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>>161599159
Anon...
Dragon is a ramp class. That's the playstyle.
I'd recommend a different class if you don't want to just hope to draw well and play on curve. Perhaps Runecraft?
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>>161599210
I love this game
>>
Can I get a concede please?

28248
>>
https://twitter.com/mizuni00/status/804300633842954240
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>>161599173
My odin will slap the shit out of your seraph every time
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>>161599173
What if I had execute on turn 5 with a full board and he didn't have those cards in his hand?

It can work either way bud.
>>
>>161599289
I want to play forest or sword but I don't have the cards
Forest is spoiled as fuck. They can fill 2/3s of their deck with cheap shit and always play on curve and never run out of cards.
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>>161599173
>Not running Odin and Execution
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>>161599060
I'm not playing control sword I'm playing LEONIDAS ANIKI which is a meme deck
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>>161578635
Not even close
>>
c-concede?

88069
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>>161599341
I can't read nippon.
May I get i translation?
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>>161598450
>banner beats storm haven
LOL
>>
>>161599289
Is haven the only class allowed to have multiple play styles?
>>
>>161599324
Please respond
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>>161599497
He's just saying he got to #1 in november and thanking everyone for supporting him
>>
>>161599531

They tried to add discard mechanic to dragon but failed miserably
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>>161598812
If sword still has minions on the board it is sitting at a much better position than forest, as their minions are going to be stronger than a few fairies.

As well as losing a guard from Otohime is not even remotely comparable to not being able to play a Tia at all.

>>161599015
Except if the opponent has no minions to attack into, suddenly you can't clear your board and tempo Tia for the ward anymore.

>havencraft amulets
>dragoncraft or blood or sword if you know they have storm minions

All situations when you'd want to ward on an empty board

There's a reason many PTP and tempo decks only run 1 or 2 Tias and literally every midrange sword runs 3 Otohimes.
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>>161599508
It does, mouthbreather. It runs them over before they can even get their amulets off unless they curve perfectly into Aria + Dogma. It has a 55% winrate over Storm on Shadowlog.
>>
Thank you suripi! Have a nice night.
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Dragon is pretty good in arena. You should try it.
>>
>Free packs
>Got an elf legendary (fairy princess?) and a lord of the flies

oh well...
>>
>>161599341
>70% winrate over 1000 games at the top of the competition

Forestfags defend this.
>>
>>161599496
Thank you, kind sword anon!
>>
>>161599668
>biased stats

Wow, you really proved me wrong.
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>>161599727
Dragon oracle should not draw a card in arena
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>>161599739
>Damn I only got two legendaries ugh!!
Are you serious? I only got my third fucking Zirnitra, and some people didn't get any leggos.
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>>161594950

How is that a win condition
>>
>>161597754
ah true, i'll do that. i forgot that they have the daily deal for all packs.
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28947
concede plz
>>
74030
Please concede for me
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>>161599727
Yeah but I'm not. I can't even win playing with Erika in T2.
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>>161599905
thanks luna
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>>161599862
The part where he had 5 hp and I wiped his board
>>
Well i got two pascales from the free packs, Is Dirtcraft need many other legendaries? im trying to save dust for the expansion
>>
>>161599508
>"Aggro" deck that does nothing for the first 3 turns loses against turbo-aggro with endless supply of storm units
yeah idiot.
>>161599846
>facts dont real, only feels
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>>161599917
Thanks buddy
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>>161599173
>can't possibly do 17 damage in one turn

What did he mean by this?
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>>161599668
>banner wins if storm haven draws shit cards
woah....
>>
>>161600219
based roach of bouncing storm and balance
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>>161600247
>needs a specific 2 card combo to even have a chance of winning

:^)
>>
>>161600219
god I hate forest
>>
>>161600138

Thats not what you call a win condition, that is simply just him not having enough answers/bad plays.

By win condition i mean a hard win condition you cant just easily overcome unless you got specifics.

Like Satan, D-shift, roach comboes, PtP or seraph
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>>161600219

]Around Elves
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>>161600219
You could've done 19 by the way.
>>
is it prime time japan?

5 back to back forest decks

i'm honestly considerign quiting for the night
>>
>>161600542

People want dem 3 olivias at all cost anon
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>>161600542
I'm on a 3 win streak with a leonidas meme deck in A2
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>>161600429
rape
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>Make this
>Fight heal
>Insane numbers from both sides
Screen never stopped shaking during it
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WHERE ARE THE NEW THREADS
>>
Help please 58357
>>
New thread?

>>161600710
>>161600710
>>161600710
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So i have 600 gold
Should i get Forte or keep it for the upcoming expansion?
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>>161600429
>this is fine
-cygames developers
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>>161600431
May was already on the board from previous turn.
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>>161600729
Thx twin cerberus :3
>>
>>161594856
Will we get Bahamut as a Dragon card?
>>
>>161600542
>the deck to beat the 5 forestcraft streak
>havencraft

but of course
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>>161600945
He's gonna be a neutral, Baha is part of the same group Luci, Satan, Gabe and Odin are.
>>
>>161599727
The thing with dragon is that I always feel you have to get really lucky with your draft, because it's easy to lock yourself into a bad curve with how dragon always has so much high cost stuff.
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>>161600542
It's 10AM in Japan.

By the way that means 10 hours until the stream today where they're going to reveal more cards or something else.
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>>161600747
Liquefy the gold.
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>>161590172
Thing is, she may be decent stat-wise, if a little under-par, but you have to evolve her to get her amulet, and it doesn't even take effect until the next turn. It really makes her too slow to work in any current deck, though that may change with the new expansion, who knows?
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