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it comes out at 10 am PST/1 pm EST quit fuckin asking edition

>New Expansion cards
http://www.hearthpwn.com/guides/1840-mean-streets-of-gadgetzan-hearthstones-fourth

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/pottisdefenseforce

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

>/hsg/ Prediction Poll Results
http://pastebin.com/t22qdX8T
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>>161532108
AKA ~13 hours from now
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>>161532223
People can easily google it, stop handholding all the shitters.
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>>161532352
Just so they don't have an excuse to ask the sameshit over and over
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anyone have eta of expansion?

like 12 hours or some shit?
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Honestly I think the main reason people lose against shaman is that they are too aggressively defensive, too much shellshock from aggro shaman that they don't play conservatively enough
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>>161532525
>he cares about Hearthstone's lore
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When is the expansion droppin in hot?
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>>161532820
>Honestly I think the main reason people lose against shaman is that overload really doesnt fucking matter when you already have board advantage
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>>161532108
>10 am PST
I've not seen a source for this besides anons in /hsg/
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Jade Rogue will be the only viable Jade deck, you heard it here first folks.
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>>161532840
I've said to several friends that if they release a Starcraft Expansion, I will buy 7 copies.
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>>161532994
that's because you didn't check the posts before your post lil nig
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>>161533094
>Jade Rogue
>With its full TWO (2) Jade Lotus cards
Yeah, real viable.
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YEAH BOYS GOT 11 PACKS
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OK Computer > Kid A
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>>161533308

All you have to do is get that 1 mana spell off hukster/burgle/lotus agents :^)
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How can people stand spending real money for hearthstone when they end up basically deleting your cards from the game?
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>>161533516
Hmmmmmmmmmm....I disagree, but respect you as a human being.
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>>161533308
Using shitty brewmaster and raptor on your golem cards is the idea senpai :^)
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>>161533807
none of your golem cards are actually minions.
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>>161533308
>>161533807
>>161533887
>The one class that could build around bouncing minions with golem battlecries to make an army of jade golems get no minions with golem battlecries

pottery
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>>161533887
>>161534003
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>>161533275
All I found was posting linking back to earlier posts of some anon claiming they knew the releasetime, nothing from blizz
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>>161534069
Because building a deck around bouncing a 4-mana minion for no real gain in the early game sure sounds like a viable deck! Let's put some Shadowcasters and Brann in there to make some real rambunctious memes!
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>>161534102
I've got to treat you like I treat my bird - not reinforcing shitty behavior. I will not spoonfeed this time anon.
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>50/50 win or lose

Epin :)
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>shaman rolls spellpower at the perfect time with no totems on board to kill my minion with spirit claws
>then rolls a taunt totem, preventing me from killing his spell damage
>that same spell damage totem sticks for the next 4 turns, allowing him to double maelstrom my board

Jesus fucking christ, in addition to how fucking busted thing from below is shaman totem rolls are some of the most tilting things in the game. I hate them so, so fucking much.

I eventually managed to win bringing us both close to fatigue, but it was by far the least enjoyable game I've played all day

Fuck shamans
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>>161534338
Alahu Ackbar and flametongue kills it 100%.
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>>161534338
That is literally your choice to make.
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options are:

Delicious Food: 2 mana: Heal all friendly characters by 2.
Rotten Food: 2 mana 0/2: Deal 2 damage to all characters at the end of each turn.
Heroic Food: 2 mana: Give all friendly minions +1 attack this turn.
Lite Food: 2 mana: Give a minion Windfury this turn.
Light Food: 2 mana: After attacking, if this minion survives, it heals itself to full. (permanent)
Heavy Food: 2 mana: Give a minion +3/+3, Taunt and Can't Attack.
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HEY YOU WATCHA GONNA DO
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>>161534681

WELCOME TO THE SPACE JAM
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>>161534491
Your options are:

Kill yourself.
Fuck yourself then kill yourself.
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>>161534491
some of them are a little op but overall p cool
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If you could have one of the following as the next adventure, what would you choose?

>Deadmines
>Icecrown Citadel
>Black Temple
>Siege of Orgrimmar
>Some wacky, kooky, comedic version of any of the above
>Overwatch
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>>161535205
Obviously the adventure with futa Widowmaker and her tasty ass hole.
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>>161534412
Remember 2 years ago when Shaman had the worst hero power in the game and literally no one played him other than an actual hobo?
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>>161535479
Oh come on, Sewer Ooze isn't that bad. I would honestly play him over Swamp Ooze if I needed a 3 drop instead of a 2. Most of the time people hold weapons at 1 durability, and it still nukes Gorehowl.
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>>161533308
Jade Druid and Jade Shaman might as well have 2 cards because the elephant and the shaman taunt are complete shit and should not be run even with synergy
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>>161535479
Gadgetzan Socialite is half-way decent.

2 for 2/2 is playable in a way that 1 for 2/1 is not.
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>>161534491
i really like it
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>>161535479
>Potion of madness in top 10
>When all the other top ten cards aren't going to have 2 or less attack while on the board
Really makes you think
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>>161535672
You can discover them via things like raven idol though.
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>>161535479
>Ferryman 3rd worst card
What a shitty list.
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>>161535205
siege is unlikely considering we got malkorak and the scorpion faggot already. icecrown is their ace in the hole that they're saving for when the game is REALLY dying. black temple could be cool, but illidan is already a card and he's shit.
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hasn't every expansion released at 1 est for the past 2 years? seems reasonable that's the time
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>>161535479
shouldn't there be two, one for powerful cards and one for meta cards
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>>161535814
That's why you pack PSP at the same time.
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>>161535479
Would Backstreet Leper be top 10 if it was 2 mana?
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I have $20 bnet balance and I want to pre-purchase the 50 packs. When does the 50 packs offer expire? also, it says that bnet balance is typically available "within 3 days of purchase," does this mean that if I add $30 to my account right now I won't be able to use it for 3 days?
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>>161535205
maybe
if naxx wasnt a thing
if illidan wasnt a card
no
fuck no god fucking no
no

The next adventure should be a serious, lore based version of either the Broken Isles as they are now or times during the sundering.

If the game numbers keep dropping then the next card pack needs to be based on The Ebon Blade (ICC adventure would be cool but Naxx kinda took most of its ideas for non-legendaries), and it has to introduce the DK class.
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>>161535884
>but illidan is already a card
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>>161535894
Then you can't trade away the minion you stole because everything is so weak
Wow, good job
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>>161535927

it'll expire today when it goes live
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>>161535913
No, but it would be somewhat playable.
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>>161533807
t2 jade assassin t3 raptor is a strong play and raptor is a good card, so I don't know what your problem is
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>>161533094
absolutely not, only jade druid has a chance

jade rogue and shaman just did not get enough cards to actually make a full deck, the jade shit was just to take up their expansion slots
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>>161536230
You've got Kabalock, Jade Druid and Grimy Hunter. None of the other classes got the tools to make the gimmicks work.
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>>161535929
>serious
>lore based
Where do you think you are?
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When this expac is released, what card packs go out of standard and is it immediate?
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>>161536469
nothing is rotating out with this xpac
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>>161536326
reno mage too
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>>161536469
December 2
LoE and BRM unplayable immediately
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>>161536452
both the Naxx and Blackrock adventures were exact clones as they are in WoW, including the gimmickry. Even GvG was. Then they decided to make everything a laugh or create their own gimmick and it's absolutely awful
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5 mins until
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>>161536326
Reno Mage is already viable. Jade Druid won't be though. You'll maybe have a memester or two run a one of to troll control warriors, but it's not like that's seriously better than Malygos Druid, Yogg Druid, Token Druid, or even Ramp Druid.

Nobody wants to cut good cards to put in understatted snowball effects that lose them the early game. Druids can already snowball with Yogg and Arcane Giants by only playing insanely powerful cards, starting with Turn 1.
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>>161536620
I don't know, playing 1 tech cards that makes you never fatigue sounds pretty sweet to me.
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memes?

http://www.hearthpwn.com/deckbuilder/warrior#215:2;227:2;632:2;22286:1;22320:2;22342:1;27255:2;35205:2;42032:2;49623:2;49626:2;49646:2;49661:2;49663:2;49673:2;49712:2;
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>>161536545
If you're shit talking LoE, you're in for a fight. If you're just talking about Kara, I didn't even like the flavor of it, so the whole thing just sucked.
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>>161536469
>/hsg/ - Retard General
It's been months and people are still asking this shit. The standard rotations will happen when the FIRST expansion of the year is released, and the sets that rotate out are the ones released two years prior. As an example, when the first xpac of 2017 hits BRM, TGT and LoE will rotate out. The 2016 sets will continue in standard until 2018.
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>>161536545
>shit talking the themes for ONIK and Gadgetzan

Fuck off, they're charming in a way that the writing in WoW has never been and never will be.
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>>161536742
I don't come here often brother
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>>161536727
That's just the thing though. It SOUNDS amazing, but Druids shit all over control Warrior without ever going to fatigue. You have to cut a card to fit in the jade idol, and honestly, there are several better cards to bully Warrior that would also help out against non-fatigue classes.
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>>161536738
>>161536857
LoE was a decent mix of having a laugh about something and keeping it loosely tied in with WoW. Kara and Gadgetzan are literally re-writing. I don't care if they have "charm", they completely go against the idea that this card game is based off of existing Warcraft. They've went from putting in the cool shit people wanted, to making their own narrative and it's dumb. LoE is fine because the explorer shit in WoW has always been relatively ambiguous.

Karazhan is complete and utter cancer.

Gadgetzan would be ALMOST acceptable in this regard if Gadgetzan wasn't just a small desert town in the middle of nowhere.
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>>161536875
Then I'm sorry my man. Seriously though, the standard format explanation should be added to the OP for new players and people that haven't played in a while.
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>>161536620
this, pic related is the only playable jade card which is not nearly enough to make an archetype

>>161536857
what exactly is the theme for gadgetzan anyway?
gotham with furries?
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>>161537041
It is just a bit confusing. I don't understand the idea of introducing a new expac and then removing other ones after, instead of on the same date. I also don't get the idea of removing ALL from X time period instead of just cycling one and the other out. Seems pick-n-choosy to me.
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>>161537036
> I don't care if they have "charm", they completely go against the idea that this card game is based off of existing Warcraft.

this is embarrassing
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>>161537036
>they completely go against the idea that this card game is based off of existing Warcraft
I hate to be the bearer of bad news...
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>>161537179
>>161537185
?????
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>>161537057
When you think about it, the card is insanely clunky. Like holy fucking shit does it make Raven Idol look fantastic.

Imagine spending turn 1 shuffling a 1/1 into your deck.
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What a nice cardback.
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>>161537036
>I don't care if they have "charm", they completely go against the idea that this card game is based off of existing Warcraft.
Funny you mention Warcraft buddy.
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anyone else who plays in eu not touching the game until tomorrow to get golden msog cards?
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>>161537284
I really hope you've been living under a rock and you're not just memeing.
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>mfw someone tried to bluff me into conceding

if you had the winning card you would have played it immediately. me no stupid
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>>161537476
I still Reno bluff. It works way more than it should.
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>>161537461
until they start making things that aren't representative of Warcraft, a change in a logo doesn't mean anything, and it doesn't excuse them from rewriting existing lore to fit their humor attempts which have progressively gotten worse and more childish.
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>>161537572
Refusal of change is a clear sign of autism.
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>>161535205

They haven't done a troll expansion yet. Maybe Zul Aman, Zul Gurub, or Throne of Thunder.

Any would work and all would provide unique encounters.
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>>161535479
Where's fuckin INK MASTER?
Look at this bad bitch.
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>>161535479
>No Small-Time Buccaneer
>No Patches the literal best card in the set

Jesus you guys really are shit at this game
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This is literally TGT 2.0
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literally worst case scenario aya blackpaw is an 8/6 for 6 mana if no other jade golem cards are run. New Dr. 6 calling it now
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>>161537696
Huh I didn't even notice that half of her face is completely fucked up
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>>161537661
where is the change friend?
removing the tagline because the game is popular enough as a standalone means nothing, don't meme me
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>>161535972
what are they gonna do, make him gayer?
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>>161536889
>Druids shit all over control Warrior
Where does this meme come from? as a "fatigue" warrior I have literally 99% winrate against druids, some random losses against the occasional beast druids.
Or are you just talking about c'thun warriors.
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>>161537793
Oh yeah, Patches. I knew they were forgetting something really obvious. Pirate Warrior is going to be sick as fuck.
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>>161538046
>have to craft a 1600 dust boar because its op

FeelsBadMan
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>>161537807
It's honestly fine.
Druid, Shaman, and Hunter are probably the only classes that are going to be playing the regular minions out of this set. The point is it has so many of these bad ass legendaries like Sergeant Sally and Inkmaster. Blackpaw, forgotten king, etc.

>>161537892
I can't really tell what's going on there. The art's not a high enough resolution.I think she just has horns and the other side of her face is in shadow.
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>>161537807
Not even remotely.

There is literally only one Inspire card that is usable. The set's entire theme.
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>>161538002
>Illidan, Gaylord
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>>161538137
If you scaled the intensity of effect up to 10 mana, it'd literally read "win the game", so crafting the boar shouldn't feel so bad.
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>>161537368
>queue into a pro
>it's midrange shaman
every time man
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>>161538002
>whenever you play a card summon a 2/1 Flame of Assinoth
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>>161538504
I just won against a golden cardback hunter.
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>>161537807
Pretty much.
The vast majority of these cards are unplayable.

>>161537852
aya and jade idol are literally the only 2 good jade cards
the rest are 4 mana river crocolisks and shit
might as well have added a jade rager for good measure

>>161538180
Jade is just as bad as inspire
So is the goons mechanic
And what makes it most like TGT is that the non-blockbuster cards aren't keeps, they're dust
iirc at least half the TGT leggos were keeps, for fun/future/brawls/wild/etc
In MSG it's what, a third maybe?
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>>161538023
I'm not really familiar with the way the matchup goes post Kara or Yogg Nerf, but the main point I would make is that fatigue in Druid is less about fatigue damage, and more about running out of threats. Jade Idol doesn't do enough for the Druid in that case.
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>>161532820
hey get a load of this guy he figured shaman out
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>>161534491
>Rotten food
>Deal 2 damage to all character at the end of each turn
>Play Rotten food
>Kills itself at the end of the turn you played it
>gg
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>>161539186
you're doing it again anon, first on the diablo card, now this
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Good, bad, or should I neck myself?
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>>161539284
Only time will tell anon! Seems cool so you should try it out at least!
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>>161537696
She's shit. I called it weeks ago, Day9 was talking about it earlier tonight.

Her problem is exactly the same as the problem with cho'gall. She costs too much mana to really enable anything you can't already do in some other, better way, and all you get for it is a 5/5 and lose an extra card. You can get a little more tempo, but it's way late and reno decks are going to be more slow controlly decks that don't really care about tempo, they want value, so getting a "free" 5/5 is irrelevant. And in most contexts where you are looking to play an undercosted raw stats fatty you may as well play arcane giant, as even if it's not totally free it can easily be made cheap enough to play along with another spell or any other card and it's bigger and you have the option of just playing it as a really cheap 8/8 by itself without needing another card.
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>>161539284
Wow!
You compiled a deck list using cards in the game!
You should try it out and tell us about it anon! :)
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>>161537572
And where exactly did anyone say that hearthstone was ever supposed to be canon?
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>>161537892
>>161538163
I think it's like she's using tattoo magic to steal the orc's essence? The fucked up part of her face doesn't quite match the appearance of the orc, but I think that's what they were going for.
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>>161539284
> Using more expensive shieldbearer
I think you should reconsider. Sure it's great if you land Stolen Goods on it, but it's just awful most of the time otherwise.
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>>161539441
I'm not sure how much Reno Mage you've played, but something really important is the ability to do 2 things in one turn, so being able to slam any pile of stats on the board the same turn as flamestrike is way better than you're giving it credit for.
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>>161538845
on turn 4 you should've played at LEAST 1 golem card snowballing it into a 4 mana 4/5 which is playable as fuck, the more this happens the better it'll be. Think of if Aya is played first summoning a 3/3 then next a 4/4. That's such a huge tempo gain that it makes playing slightly substandard cards worth it.
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>>161539441
>>161537696
Cool artwork but yeah, fairly sure she won't be used in the meta. I mean might see the odd use in certain kinds of decks but I don't it's going to be used to any huge effect, especially compared to other legendary cards.
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>northshire cleric draws cards when your opponent heals something too
why hasn't this been changed yet? they changed the murloc warleader to only buff your own murlocs, they should change the cleric to only draw when you heal a friendly minion.
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>>161539669
Reno mage doesn't win by outracing the opponent or simply playing more cards. You outlast and outvalue them.

What do you even do with the extra tempo? Why is not simply flamestriking sufficient? You're in it for the long haul, you have all game to wear the opponent down. If you do need a tempo play, why is not simply playing a firelands portal enough tempo? What does solia do that's better than half of the cards in reno mage? How do you make room for this card that's only good with maybe 2-3 specific other cards in your deck and only after turn 7?
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>>161539685
>by turn 4 you should have at least played 1 golem to get you a chillwind yeti
>the maximum number of jade cards you can possibly put in a deck is 9
>2 rogue, 1 shaman, 2 druid, 0 neutral jade cards fall below 4 mana on the curve
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Alright so it looks like there's 2 expensive packages to craft, the reno mage-lock stuff and pirate warrior stuff.
seems about 4000 dust each so i don't know if i can do both day 1, depends on pack luck.
What are you guys gonna meme with on first day?

Come to think of it, goddamn. Pirate warrior's gonna be the first wallet face deck, isn't it?
At least 3 legendaries, 4 if you like greenskin.
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>>161539949
Your deck has the value built in. You have to survive long enough to win that way.

In a world without Shaman, flamestrike is enough. Shamans can flamestrike on 3 mana, and can put lethal damage on the board from empty on 8 mana. Having something on the board can be nice sometimes

Also, you can choke on cards in hand and never be able to set up for your tome or antonidas. I still wouldn't craft it or probably wouldn't even put it in my list since there's already so many other things I'd want, but it's nowhere near as bad as Chogall.
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Do you think aggro will be good in the new meta?

As it stands now, anyone can just jam Rag in their deck and not get punished for it. It's disgusting.
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>>161540327
Aggro throws rag in their decks too. I doubt he'll ever really disappear from the meta until they do the honest thing and nerf him to deal 5 damage or something.
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>>161540225
Jade Druid for sure. As long as I can get close to enough of the cards it's what I'll dick around with
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>>161539768
Maybe they will when the ladder is 90% priest.
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>>161540386
It more shows that they haven't come up with anything that people would rather have than Rag or would want in addition to him. Nobody wants to pay 8 mana for garbage without high value battlecry or end of turn triggers.
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Consider the following.
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>>161540225
>What are you guys gonna meme with on first day?
Probably aggro shaman or face hunter, depending on which gets more traction in the meme meta. Then I'll switch to memes once everyone gets tired of it.
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>>161540386

What aggro decks would run Rag? If you want more reach, you run Leeroy.

And curve hunters are not aggro.
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>>161540536
Hearthstone would break when the sum of HP is an odd number.
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>>161540536
You are really stupid.
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>>161540324
There's really not even anything WRONG with cho'gall. The ability is powerful, both of them. There just isn't anything exciting enough to use them with and the limitations that come from being so expensive leave a lot to be desired. Being 7 mana severely hurts their viability.
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>>161540586
>Face hunters aren't aggro
???
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>>161540626
>>161540623

Awwww, whatsamatter - never get your GED? Never learned how to round numbers?
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Somebody say something NICE to her.
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>>161540767

You're the bomb, girl.
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>>161540767
There's no way to exploit self damage is there?
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>>161540636

Face hunter and midrange hunter are entirely different. Face hunter's curve ends at around 5.
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>>161540689
There's just no precedence. They intentionally avoid division. Multiply, subtract, add. They want to keep things as simple as they can to make interactions predictable and consistent. Which they fail, even without division.
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>>161540838
Activating revenge for warrior
And there are a couple ways to negate face damage
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>>161540767

You are a nice counter to Ms. 6
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>>161539685
>on turn 4 you should've played at LEAST 1 golem card
problem is that there's not many golem cards, so that's probably the average or even the best you can hope for, and it's not good
I don't want to play yeti stats on turn 4, that hasn't been good for a long time

for example, on stream i think they only managed to get it to 4/4 on turn 9 with druid

>>161539949
not that anon, but personally i see her as an arcane giant, part of druid-style plays
i just do whatever i was going to do that turn, and get a body for free

i like to play more proactive lists anyway, tend to close out the game with burn rather than pure grind.
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>>161540838
Yes. Play against sylv, sylv dies and steals her. She dies and deals 5 to enemy's face. Best waifu.
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>Client updates at midnight, PST, for season.
>Can't just enable MSG during the same update, it HAS to be 1PM because _____
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>>161540965
Oh wow, that would be a pyroblast against a N'zoth.
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hellfire should be reduced to 3 mana so as to better fit within my malygos reno warlock combo
thoughts & opinions?
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>>161541289
I don't think Blizz is looking to make Draw games an easier thing to pull off.
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>>161541289
>thoughts & opinions

Your deck archetype will be dead in Jade meta. Not even Casual viable. Control is gone.
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>>161540548
yeah, in the past i've used zoo for punishing greedy dumbasses.
But at this point i couldnt bring myself to actually launch hearthstone and play any of those decks for more than a few games.
Do you still enjoy the game like that?

>>161540586
back in the day when the meta was slower, aggressive hunter decks would run rag after leeroy for the extra burn
serves pretty much the same role in tempo mage now
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>>161541058
no popular streamers are up at this time. gotta get the most free advertisement as you can
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>>161541528
What does that even mean. How would that change anything?

Hell, they should launch now while the normies are asleep to avoid the inevitable overload of their shitty chinese server farms.
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>>161541447
>Do you still enjoy the game like that?
Yes and no. I fucking love aggro and always will, and there's a bit of schadenfreude involved in watching people's experiments get crushed, but there's no way I could just queue up something like midrange shaman right after the expansion launches.

>>161541418
>Jade meta
Yes, the priest meta that we've been in for the past year will finally be over!
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>>161541606
Priest's high health Dragons just get devolved by Shaman. The class will only be tier 2 at best.
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>>161541658
Did someone drop you on your head? Is that a self portrait?
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>>161540902
This.
>stealth units cant be targetted
>let me just buff them with mark ofbthe beast here and put a copy of one with warden
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>>161541586
it means that if it would release now, it wouldn't be an event. use your head, why would any company release a big update in the middle of the night? servers are going to be overloaded from all the NEETs regardless.
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Will I need to update again to play MSG or will the update they've already dropped (showing the cards to be unlocked in dec) be the only one?

I'll be at work when MSG drops and I mostly play hearthstone on my phone the entire day so I want to know if I have to take a laptop with me since iphones have this werid thing where you can't download more than 100mb off of your roaming data.
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Does Mayor Noggenfogger's effect also apply to spells? That's pretty fucking hilarious if it works like that
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>>161541825
Blizzard are weird about that. I found out that hearthstone takes 4gb on my android phone after 2 updates for no reason.
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>>161541876
Yes.

>>161541825
There's always a chance with Blizzard. Better play it safe.
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>>161541876
It applies to anything that targets shit.
Doesn't work on things like Mind Blast.
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>>161540838
Purify is meta now
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>>161541773
What event? What the fuck are you talking about, seriously? How would it actually help them if everyone's trying to log in all at once at 1PM and overload the servers as usual?

Seriously, describe how that helps.

>MUH STREAMORZ xD IM SO SMART, CHECK MY BUSINESS SKILLS!

How do streamers help? You think people watching streamers on release generates any kind of significant extra revenue? Fucking how????
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>>161542081
If nothing else, they probably want to launch during business hours so that people are actually in the office.
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>>161534161
>>161534003
>>161533807

With raptor rogues have 3 golem cards like everyone else

With shadowstep they can exploit jade spirit and aya's effects for an additional 2

Brewmaster/jade ferryman adds an additional 2/4/6

Shadowcaster adds potentially infinite

Shadowcaster on aya is gee fucking gee because you'll bring back 4 golem producing cards with n'zoth

Providing you can live of course ;)

Vanish is gonna become so fucking meta because its the only reliable golem counter outside of nova doomsayer
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http://www.hearthhead.com/news/mean-streets-of-gadgetzan-card-sounds-now-available

What's your favorite new card sound?

And why does Kazakus have so many sounds? None of the other gang leaders have additional sounds.
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>>161542181
I add a lot of random people on Hearthstone, and the people online on my friends list is doubled during 1PM, compared to, like, right now. If not more than doubled. And I add most of these people at night...

I really don't think numbers would support your statement.
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>>161541418
>jade meta
get a grip, anon
jade rogue and shaman sets are incomplete and unplayable
and jade druid is so slow it'll make rogue look good against aggro

>>161541658
>Priest's high health Dragons just get devolved by Shaman.
in case you're not memeing, we talked about this last thread >>161529030 >>161529779 >>161529982
we don't have sideboards in hearthstone, tech cards don't affect an archetype's power until it's overwhelmingly strong at which point it's tier 1 anyway tech be damned
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>>161542081
are you being retarded on purpose? how's the expansion release of a big blizzard title not a big event. maybe you should suggest releasing the next WoW expansion at midnight too while you're being a dumbfuck
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>>161542190
>Providing you can live of course
theres the rub
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>>161542261
http://www.hearthhead.com/cards/sergeant-sally
http://www.hearthhead.com/cards/bomb-squad

why do these two cards have literally the same voice?
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>>161542190
How will you, as the 2nd shittiest meme Rogue deck beat the shittiest meme Rogue deck? Mill will kick your fucking ass so hard.
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if i don't log in to claim my ranked reward chest, can I get golden gadgetzan cards if I wait until after expansion?
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Reminder to not open your chest until after the expansion drops for some new cards.
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>>161542271
It's fine, I'll just say I'll be playing auto-include Devolves and screencap this post.

We'll see what happens to your gay ass High-HP-low-mana Dragons once they're devolved into misc. shit that's way easier to deal with.

Devolve is meta defining. So is Jade Druid. You're basing your Jade evaluation on Blizzard's shitty deck building. Control is dead for two years. Forever in Wild.
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>>161542342
You can jade assassin into jade idols and never get milled.
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>1 gig patch
>took an hour to complete
>lost a daily thanks to that

Nice game, blizztard
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http://www.hearthhead.com/cards/kabal-courier

is this the most annoying attack sound yet?

i didn't think anything could beat the tgt windfury inspire 3/3
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>>161542283
You're still not saying anything here. You're just throwing the words "big event" around, like it means anything for business. You seriously think people already knowing about the release getting hype for the it on the same day is some kind of a huge business booster?

It doesn't do fuckall.
Other than jam the servers.

Besides, fucking Halo 3 was a system seller, way back when and they had Master Chiefs riding on quads outside GameStop at Midnight. Didn't fucking stop anyone from getting hype then.
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>>161542342

If you build your deck around beating a deck that shows up maybe 1 in 30 games on ladder, you're gonna have a bad time

Regardless I wonder if theres some sort of JadeMill deck you can make, exploiting the reno mill shell to play the infinite jade golem combo with shadowcaster. Could work, but might also dilute the mill shell too much
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>>161542423
>the plan is to add an additional unplayable high cost card to the deck
WOW! AMAZING! THAT'S INCREDIBLE!
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>>161542510
>1 in 30
That's probably what the Rogue matchup rate is going to be in general. It's not like Jade Rogue is going to be more successful or popular than Mill, and it will bu far worse than meme C'thun, N'zoth, or Miracle.
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When the new expansion drops are you gonna play wild or standard, /hsg/?
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>of all the commons in game it game it gives me 2 copies of gold commons I've already got 2 of
>>
new expansion when?
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>>161542081
Holy fuck anon. Ever considered cyanide pills?
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>log on
>ladder reset
>no way people can still be playing shaman with hours until new exp and the reset
>2 midrange shaman in a row
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>>161542784

Shaman ain't going nowhere lil nigga
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>>161542261
how do they extract these?
is there a simpler way than going through the whole torture with fsbext & co?

also
>kabal crystal runner
fuck that stupid accent really gets me

>why does Kazakus have so many sounds?
those are his boss lines and hearthhead probably just stuck them on his card page because they didn't know where else to put them
aya has a shit-ton too, they just aren't posted for her
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expansion out for EU when?
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>>161543009
Never ever
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>>161542680
Standard.
Wild will be forever dominated by secret paladin. No matter what. Forever and ever.
At least in standard the cancer switches at every rotation.
With that said, Thrall will most likely continue his reign of absolute terror, so if the meta still sucks one month from now I'll pay a visit to Utherland again.
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>Hearthstone gives me a fucking golden crowd favorite for hours of grind to reach rank 5.
>Shadowverse gives me 13 packs for absolutely no reason what so ever.
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lol
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>nerf a card
>don't let the whole deck be dust refundable
>?????
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>>161543221

only one of those games has to keep spewing out resources as an incentive to keep people playing
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>http://www.hearthhead.com/cards/jade-chieftain

Gave me a giggle.
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:^)
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>>161543402
Okay, I laughed.
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>flavor text for Shadow Rager is "WE WENT THERE"
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>>161543241
>SV gives me dozens of free packs constantly, and I pull a minimum of 1-2 legendaries per 10 packs
>I'm going to be spending 9k gold on HS packs and I'll probably pull 3 at most
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>>161532108
this guy looks like hes barely 13 man the fuck
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What is the thinking man thinking about?
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Alright /hsg/, let's see how well you understand Hearthstone's mechanics.

You play Bloodsail Cultist (Battlecry: If you control another Pirate, give your weapon +1/+1) onto an empty board with Patches in your deck.

Does your weapon get buffed?
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>>161543712
It really makes you think.
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>>161543764
No.
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>Get 30 hero powers quest
>Draw perfect curve in my next game so I can't hero power

CURSE MY IRONICALLY TIMED LUCK!
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Who is most correct here?
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is krul the unshackled going to be any good?
probably no right
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>>161543309
I'd hardly call the single epic from reaching rank 5 "spewing resources" but ok.
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>>161543921
it's like they were forced to pick one meme card each
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>>161543921
lifecoach > thijs > RDU > lothar
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>>161543921
>thighs
That said, I agree with him and Lothar. I fully expect Dragon Priest, Pirate Warrior, and Jade Druid to become quite strong in the expac.

Thijs gets an extra point because of White Eyes foresight with the next xpac which may make Control Shammy powerful.
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>>161543921
No one, you're supposed to hate the entire set, Hearthstone, and fap to bread-eating unicorns.
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>>161543546
And balding like he is 40, just as Kolento. Common genetic problem among us slavs.
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>>161544029
Hey!
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>>161543501
HAHAHA WELL MEMED TEAM 5! THANKS FOR GIVING ROGUES SHADOW RAGER INSTEAD OF DESIGNING A BETTER CLASS CARD! GOTTA HAVE THOSE EPIC RAGER MEMES AMIRIGHT AHAHAHA!!
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>>161542408
>once they're devolved into misc. shit that's way easier to deal with
this is much more true in wild than standard

when im facing shredders, belchers, madscis, creepers, etc, generally the stickiest fucking bullshit minions ever printed, im really happy to have it

after all, in wild a "board clear" doesn't actually clear the board, it leaves behind a bunch of smaller random bullshit you still have to deal with
devolve does that too, and it's only 2 mana, so it's basically a nice 2 mana AoE

but in standard a board clear actually clears the board
while devolve still leaves things behind
so it's much shittier in comparison
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>>161544141
I prefer my monster girls to at least be 50% not human.
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Naxx out?
>>
Did freeze mage get anything useful in this expansion?
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>>161544447
Freezing Potion, though it is a might bit redundant with Frostbolt being what it is.
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> Playing brawl as priest
> Get card that heals my hero for amount x enemy minions
> brawl spawns all healing is damage this turn spell.
> Do 24 damage to my hero.

T-Thanks blizzard.
Fun brawl tho
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>>161544447
alextraza
Every single fucking rotation XD
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>>161544692
I want Alextraza to go away.
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>>161541912
>>161541928
ty anons, will take it with me just to be safe
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Did the servers just die?
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defend intentional bad card design.
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Is it me or the chest rewards are always the same?
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>shaman drops squire and abusive
>this somehow makes them consistently have the only 1 drop of trogg always
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>>161544861

Memes are fun
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>>161544859
Yes
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>>161544861

its undefendable. they are completely out of touch with the community.
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>>161543921
>most correct
come on anon, it says "favorite cards" not "best cards"
i like how patches is the only one in all of them though, i guess we all secretly love to go face

>>161544010
>which may make Control Shammy powerful
white eyes isn't a game-changer, building huge walls is already one of the archetype's particular specialties
10/10/taunt isn't much different from 7/8/taunt, the opponent's either gonna hard remove it or concede

what's funny is that the 5/5 is actually the key piece, since it has the word "deathrattle": he's the first old god support in the entire class and could elevate nzoth as the preferred package for control sham builds
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>>161544861
ITS TOTALLY OK FOR CARDS TO BE BAD BECAUSE IT ACTS AS FILLER TO MAKE FORMATS LIKE ARENA INTERESTING AND PROVIDE INTERESTING MECHANICS FOR BRAWL PLEASE ZERIYAH LOVE ME
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did anyone work out if the ranked chest will drop the new cards or not?
>>161544550
that is pretty damn funny
>>161544872
by rank, they are the same. the cards can be different I think but the rewards are always the same
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>>161544859
>>161544917
Oh, so that wasn't just me then.

Good to know.
>>
>>161544861
>>161544924

calm down, it's not even that bad. yes it will literally never see any constructed play, but it's okay in arena and there are so many other cards that are so much worse.
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>>161544956
it should, happened last time
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>>161544995

>theres other bad cards so its okay

fuck your shitty reasoning
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>>161544861
anon that's actually not very hard to defend
bad cards spice up the game and everyone who works with card games agrees on this

Filler, on the other hand, is genuinely indefensible.
And MSG has a ton of it. So if you want something to hate on, try pic related.
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>>161545107
>the face of msg
>dorsnt do anythong
Thanks blizzard i was actuallybexcited about that one
>>
>you will never be adopted by lifecoach like jj and thijs were
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>>161545107
I dont see whats wrong with printing a budget ethereal conjurer
>>
did anyone's friend list get wiped? or is this an outage
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>>161545189
The servers just exploded.
>>
last three times i've played nefarian hes given me:

double humility

double hunter's mark

and now

double dragon's breath


what the fuck
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>>161545250
The RNG is shitting itself from this brawl
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>>161543764
Depends on if summon from deck effects resolve before battlecries. Can't really think of a precedent that would allow anyone to answer that. Probably no, since if the battlecry happens before the minion officially enters the board, the patches trigger won't have occurred yet. Battlecry happens, then minion is summoned and so is patches. But we can't be sure because Hearthstone only pays attention to its own rules most of the time.
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>>161544861
it's honestly not that terrible

what about all of the buff cards in your hand memes? the buff stealth minions shit?

5-1 stealth does require certain things to remove it that they may not even have, what if you used one of the numerous ways to make it a 6-2 or 7-3?
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>>161544930
>N'Zoth as the preferred package for Control Sham builds
Oh I hope so. It's so lovely to play with Infested Tauren after the month of abuse the poor guy took.
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Just dusted all my non standard cards. Will this be enough for 1 deck?
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>>161545107
Fucking 4 mana 7/2 when? Gotta have every possible combination of stats for a vanilla minion of every mana cost right?

Inb4
> It'll see play in arena
Sure, a 4 drop that gets killed by a 3/2 will see play in arena when your other two choices were somehow worse. Not a great reason to print boring vanilla filler.
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>>161545509
probably
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>>161545509

nope
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>>161545428
Then a Jungle Panther would have done the exact same job except it wouldn't have to be buffed to survive a ghoul or whatever. The extra attack point is hardly going to matter in 99% of cases.
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>>161537319
It's more like spending your first turn shuffling a 1/1, a 2/2 and a card that shuffles a 3/3 and a 4/4 and a card that shuffles a 5/5 and a 6/6 and a card that shuffles a 7/7 and a 8/8 into your deck, into your deck, into your deck, into your deck, stacking all the way up to shuffling an infinite number of 30/30s into your deck at the end point.

It's slow but I think it's a worth-while tech card.
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>>161545509

Probably, most of the staples will be common/rare
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>>161545509
A mid-cost deck, certainly.
Most likely you'll need Adventures, and those cards are damn-near irreplaceable.
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>>161545428
the buff in hand shit is not playable, more likely it'll be hitting face as a 9/1 if not removed
agreed that it's not as bad as it feels for angry rouge players though, there's much worse trash in this set

>>161545509
yup, 4000 is pretty much exactly how much a 2-new-leggo deck will cost assuming you already have a decent collection
pirate warrior and reno mage both qualify
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>>161544995
Ben pls
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>>161545701
Teching against fatigue?

You're raising your winrate against exactly 1 archetype and lowering it against everything else on ladder. Like, just by including one of these, there's a chance your midrange shaman win % drops by several points.
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>>161546230
Most control mirrors go to fatigue and considering that we'll be seeing the rise of the dragon priest and control warrior might be staying i the meta, it might be worth-while to tech against control.
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>>161546230
you can't play it in shaman senpai
But yes, playing a single jade card in a non jade deck is fucking retarded and anyone who thinks otherwise is a yuroshit mth moron
>>
Just got memed on by an Inner Fire Ressurect N'zoth Priest

I really don't know how to feel about it.
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>>161546442
Would you rather get facerolled by memerange shamans?
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>>161546401
dude you have serious issues with Europeans
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>>161546509
>dude you have serious issues with Europeans
>4channers have serious problems with X demographic

Old news
>>
does anyone know if the google play hearthstone as is updated yet?

it isnt working for me so i assume not
>>
>>161546614
It's the same guy with the same insult always in this time period it's bizarre
>>
>>161546509
My only issue is that those cumguzzling shitstains are allowed to post here
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>wild pyro: after you cast a spell ...
>yogg effect casts a spell
>wild pyro doesn't trigger
if i didn't cast the spell, why am i overloaded?

>yogg effect casts farsight (draw a card, it costs 3 less)
>i draw a card
>it doesn't cost 3 less
the fuck?
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>tfw Americans get the expansion before us

I hate you
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>>161547103
kys yuroshit
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>Jade decks require you to have a lot of effects that summon golems every turn
>Give rogue only 2 cards that summon golems
Do they expect me to spam Young Brewmasters and shit to bounce the neutral jade generators or to use gang up?
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>>161547152
no u
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>>161547152
isnt like 5 am there? go to sleep anon
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>>161537807
naaah
jade seems like the new "Inspire" though
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>>161546834
Yogg is fucking bugged and should be dusted forever.
Instead of fixing him, they killed him, giving us a "for each spell you casted this game, flip a coin and hope it doesn't end in your eye. And the coin is razor sharp."
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How long until people start complaining about stale meta again?
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>>161546834
This is the reminder text for the Overload mechanic.

It's not an "if you cast this spell" effect. It's literally on the card text.

Just like cards don't say "If you cast this spell, deal 3 damage," this doesn't say "If you cast this spell, you have X less mana next turn." A spell deals 3 damage, whether you cast it or not. A spell overloads you, whether you cast it or not.
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>>161547167
In a Jade Rogue deck Unearthed Raptor is basically a 3rd Jade Golem card.
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friendly reminder to have fun at rank 20
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>>161535479
white eyes and rat pack are the flavor of the week, dispatch kodo is going to be the card most people will cry about
>>
IF YOU DON'T OPEN YOUR RANKED CHEST REWARDS BEFORE GADGETZAN'S RELEASE, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET GADGETZAN GOLDENS.
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>>161547175

>tfw insomnia
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>>161547303
Who is (You) if not the spell caster?
>>
Who is the Boogeymonster of this expansion?
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>>161547320
>it's a retarded magic babb thinks he's smart episode
Every single time. Dumb nigger.
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>>161547476
You control the spell. It comes into effect on your side of the board. But you did not cast it.
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>>161547491
There is no Boogey Monster this time around. All the neutral legendaries are flavourfull even though many of them are bad.

http://www.hearthpwn.com//cards?filter-premium=1&filter-set=107&filter-unreleased=1&filter-rarity=32&display=3

Niggernogger seems the closest though.
>>
>>161547491

noggenfogger now that we know it's not true random
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>>161547103
at least we got the winterveil emotes, time to bm
>>
>>161547281

2(two) weeks
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>>161547281
>1-2days
thanks streamers!
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>>161547167
they expect you not to play it

>>161547303
Anon, we're talking about inconsistency here
Effects that say "YOU" on them, just like the overload mechanic, do different things
"You" is undefined for the purpose of yogg and the servants of yogg effect, we only know what each spell does by trial and error
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>>161547642
Wait, we know more about it now?

Can you give me an update on how it works?
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>December the 1st they said
>It is actually at 01:00 December the 2nd
I demand at least 10 free packs as a compensation for this inconvinience.
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>tfw reddit defends this shitfestbrawl
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>>161543921
lifecoach is the only normal guy when he isn't playing hs
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>>161547761

There were people on the last thread here on /hsg/ defending it and saying only shitters hate this brawl
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>>161547310
>Adventure card
When the fuck are they going to let us craft adventure cards? I have all this dust but I can't make some cards because I'm too lazy to grind gold, fuck my life.
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>reynad cant even get legend anymore
HAHHAHAHAHAHH
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>>161547761
it's better than the rope-every-turn brawls and the 1000 gold brawl at least
it's buggy as FUCK though, as expected

>>161547849
>when they rotate out :^)
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>>161547709
It's very simple anon.

'Casting' a spells refers to playing it from hand. That's all there is to it.
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Will freeze mage be hot shit in the new meta?
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>>161547918
With garrosh dead, it just got rid of its worst matchup. Will still get btfo by malydruid and huntard tho
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>>161547709
Not really. 'You' is the controller of Yogg Saron, that generates the spells. Wherever a card cast by Yogg Saron or the reminder text on it says 'you,' it refers to the controller of Yogg Saron.
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>>161547761
This Brawl is shit, but I do have a story for you.
>summon Druid of the Snek
>it randomly casts On the Hunt on my face and summons a 1/1 dog
>Druid turns into a 7/7 snek after it has already been placed down and after the dog has been summoned
I honestly don't get how Hearthstone works sometimes.
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>>161535479

Jade Idol and White Eyes are overrated as fuck. Did ya'll not learn from Neptulon, Mistcaller and Halazeal?
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>>161548002
Looks good vs jade golem shit, right?
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>>161548090
shit story desu that's completely normal

reddit had a good one tho
>He summoned BGH and targeted my Skeleton Knight.
>Elemental Destruction was activated due to BGH being summoned
>The entire board was destroyed
>Skeleton Knight's Deathrattle effect activated, and he won the joust so he returned to my hand.
>Then BGH's dagger flew across the screen to my hand and destroyed Skeleton Knight.
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>Control decks are going to have to start running Bronzebeard and 2 Coldlights to kill control druids
Can't wait
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>>161548370
Big guy hunter can now target minions in hand.
Viable now?
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>>161534491
why is this no murloc?
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>>161547491
Beardo, Genzo, Goya, and Noggenfogger.
None of them have any possible use in any deck, just dust.

>>161548295
you're right that people are massively overrating those cards, but the only good comparison there is hallazeal and white eyes
both are good cards, it's just that they're both control cards and control shaman is not the strongest archetype
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>>161548494
>pirate murloc
>should I make it a pirate or a murloc
>can't decide so I leave it blank
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>everyone upset at the good neutral taunts rotating out of standard
>blizzard makes 3 decent/situational neutral taunts in this set
>sets them at legendary
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>>161548589
Genzo could technically work in zoo decks and Goya in meme druid maybe. Also beardo in reno priest. Noggenfogger is useless as fuck though same with the renolock lego
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who else waiting for expansion to log in and collect end of season rewards
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Why didn't everyone get two c'thun cards?
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>>161549173
Cthun is already a forgotten archetype. Just like jade will be in a year.
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>In Shadowverse, all regions get expansions simultaneously
>In Hearthstone, different regions get expansions whenever Ben feels like it
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Play Shadowverse
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>>161549173
hahaha tribe decks will continually get the bare minimum to make them playable but never enough to make them viable
:))))
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>>161549530
Post non loli POV hentai where the girl has slightly bigger than normal eyes but the art isn't complete dog shit, and she has the dick in her mouth, and some cum on her face.

If you post exactly that I will give shadowverse a try.
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>>161549173
Because Team 5 half-asses their archetype design.

Like how in WoG they made this big deal about how Paladin doesn't have C'thun cards because their thing that expansion was supposed to be "fighting the darkness of the old gods" a concept that they dedicated exactly one unplayable card to (Stand Against Darkness) before making the rest of the Paladin class cards that expansion completely unrelated memes (Like Lightlord).
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Spoody#2752 EU, first one to add me gets 80 gold from the shitty quest.
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>>161549173
There will never be any more cthun cards. Or jade cards. Other old gods can function without specific support but cthun will die.
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>>161549675
This is what bothers me the most. The set is still fucking play. How about you drop some of the dumb fucking meme cards and make a couple of c'thun cards even those this set isn't WoG?

Man sometimes I fucking hate blizzard.
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>>161549675

Did they bring up not making more goon/lotus cards? Because that makes the kabal cards even better in comparison
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>>161549708
>How about you drop some of the dumb fucking meme cards and make a couple of c'thun cards even those this set isn't WoG?

This is not like tcg games work
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>>161549708
In MtG, we call these types of decks and mechanics 'parasitic.'

Guess that's just another lesson that Team 5 needs to learn the hard way.
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>>161549779
What do you mean? Please elaborate.
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will it work?
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>>161549757
The factions are clearly MSG only. The mechanics like hand buffs and Reno might live on, I doubt jade will
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>>161549708

its sad that they dont put enough effort in to make a like 2 class card expansion to the old gods to mix up the archetypes a bit.

or if theyre really lazy why not make cards no one plays into c'thun / old gods themed cards instead?


Example: Addled Grizzly - 3 mana 3/3 - give your c'thun +1/+1 whenever you summon a minion.
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>actually logging in to play before MSG launch
It's like you enjoy wasting your free cards
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>>161544861
7/10, would pick in arena
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>>161550018
I think the problem is when WOTG rotates out your gonna all these dead cards sitting there for months. Thats the flaw around decks build around 1 card (c'thun) unless they do a ballsy move and make it basic
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>>161550115
Everyone owns c'thun, right? Making it Basic makes sense
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>Control Paladin
>Small Time Recruits
>Two Tunneling Weasels and Shifter Zerus

F U C K

R E N O
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>>161550197
>>161550115

yeah they should be probably won't.

they probably dont realise theyre shooting themselves in the foot and are actually limiting their much concerned design space by not expanding on the old gods theme.
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>>161549829

Parasitic mechanics are mechanics that feed from itself and only itself

Cards that can only be played within each other

MTG has had its share of cards like this, like old allies from original zendikar

For example, c'thun cards will never be used outside of a c'thun shell, Veklor will never ever see play again and this archetype will probably cease to have any support

Jade golems are the same, if you're going to play with a jade golem card, you have to play most of them

Instead of creating a mechanic or card that can have a long lifespan and fit multiple archetypes, parasitic mechanics are destined to have minimal to zero growth potential in the game
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>>161550115
That's the thing though, they have a set rotation. Everything in MSG and Karazhan will only be in the game so long as C'thun is. They could have easily thrown C'Thun a bone by throwing a new Addled Grizzly in MSG.

That entire wrong philosophy already exists in hearthstone anyway. Look at Purify/Resurrect/Dragon Priest and Burgle Rogue. Most of the good Purify targets, Resurrect itself, 90% of the dragons and Burgle are all rotating an entire year before all these new cards that support them, so you won't even have ancient statues to purify in a few months.
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>>161550287

its so frustrating to watch as a wannabe game designer.

I wouldnt like to say I could do better. but I could. probably anyone whos played the long enough could.
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>>161549468
brode justifying shit has to be the most retarded shit, even "ugh ugh" guy has some decency after his last appearance to let others do it in his place
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>>161550260
Wonder if the meme is strong enough to recraft Zerus.
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>they cast Yogg while I had Sylv on board
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>>161550278
Zendikar's allies are fine. You can fuck off.
t. Tazri
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>>161550639

New allies are fine, old allies were the problem
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>>161549337
Jade blade of C'Thun Rogue will be a thing.
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>>161549829
Parasitic cards rely on very specific mechanics or sets of cards that are not common with the card game. Without this mechanic, these cards are dead in the water, meaning that decks containing parasitic cards often build themselves.

For example:
>Pack Rat
This is good card design. It had obvious synergy with the gang mechanic but you are able to take advantage of its card text in a deck that doesn't use its gang mechanic at all.
>Dispatch Kodo
This is reasonable card design. Its card text is strong and usable and although it optimally requires its gang mechanic, it can still be used without it to decent effect.
>The Jade Golem and C'thun mechanics
This is bad card design. Jade Golems are reliant on you having previously generated other Jade Golems in order to be of any value at all. There is only one Jade Golem card that is self-sufficient and it could be considered broken in the right environment. C'thun requires you to play a deck that is built around making it good and lots of cards require you to have a big C'thun.

In short:
>Good card design
This card is good on its own and can be made better by all manners of cards, especially by cards from the same set that were designed to have synergy with it.
>Acceptable card design
This card is good on its own but it can be improved by other cards from the same set that were designed to have synergy with it.
>Parasitic card design
This card cannot function properly without being supported by other cards from the same set that were designed to support it.

Kabal has a good, if loosely defined mechanic, that allows you to construct your Kabal deck however you please with one or two requirements.
Grimy Goons has an acceptable mechanic, that you need to build around but that lets you choose the specifics, allowing for you to personalize your deck.
Jade Lotus has a highly parasitic all-or-nothing mechanic. You need to be able to make the biggest Jade Golems you can or you are wasting the mechanic.
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>>161550764
>Please rape my face.dec
Good luck with that
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They should add a new tribe in the next expansion
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>>161550832

All cards should have tribes

They should retroactively add tribes to all cards, like elfs, orcs, goblins and etc
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>>161549468

>play the pokemon tcg
>america gets expansions literal months after japan

true suffering
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Would you play a 3 mana 5/1 with divine shield?

Try to leave your rager stat line bias out.
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>>161550881
Are you retarded
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>>161550881
It means the next expansion would include mostly spells and other synergy cards, but it would be really really worth it
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>>161550981

Can you elaborate why would that be bad?
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>>161550971
I can't think of any 3+ mana 1-health minions I'd feel comfortable playing so long as Rogue and Mage exist.
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>>161550971
Yeah, definitely. the 3/1 divine shield is actually pretty decent in some matchups.
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>>161550971
Yes. Even the 3/1 is almost playable.
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>>161550832
they are really putting themselves into a corner with their game mentality, I am sure they will fuck shit up in 2017 with some stupid evergreen announcement
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>>161550670
I disagree. How are/were they a problem?
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>>161551041
this tilts people with redemption memes I just wish it didn't have such fucking anti synergy with hero power
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>>161551028
No. Play more card games.
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>>161550971
Is Scarlet Crusader constructed playable and is how playable it is defined by its attack or its health?
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I can't believe Curse of Rafaam is not viable
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>>161551079

The problem was their parasitic aspect, they weren't good enough alone and rellied hard on having other allies. At least the new ones tend to do stuff even when playing in decks with a low density of allies. I'm not saying they were bad, just parasitic

>>161551115

Sure
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>play paladin
>what I expected
>righteousness, stern holy warriors, lots of justice
>what I got
>LMAO ARENT MURLOCS ABSOLUTELY HIGH-LARIOUS XDDD MRMRRGTLGLRLL
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>>161551178

Team 5 has no fucking idea what they are doing with their class identities
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I realize after giving C'thun a real chance that I only really have fun playing tribal decks.

So I guess jade is going to be my new thing. Shame it's fucking druid, rogue, shammy, and not say warrior or priest.
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>>161551137
Should work with opponents spell damage.
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>log onto shadowverse
>15free packs
>log onto hearthstone
>no cardback with preorder
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>Team 5 exec wants a new beach house
>adventure money is dying down
>"I've got it!"
>Introducing the Death Knight class!
>for the low low price of $16.99!
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>>161551158
I dont like the word. Allies are great from the fluff perspective and were not that bad gamedesign-wise. She, new zendikar block fixed their shit (most effects apply on all the creatures). But we have shapeshifters from llorwyn to do all the shenanigans with "whenever another ally"
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>>161551226
JUST DESIGN SPACE MY SHIT UP
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>>161551291

There was no time to do a cardback, but we really needed the one hour murloc song
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>>161551137
Just wait till warlock gets a 1mana 1/3 that makes spells cost 0 and draws you a card when used
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>>161551291
Yeah m8 I got about 1k vials or 1/10 of a legendary playset from the packs

Haven't opened a legendary in like 30 packs, so generous
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>>161551262
>opponent doesn't kill you after getting malygos out
>kill them with "both players have spell damage +2" rafaam burst
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>>161551246
Guess they just gave up with totems after completely fucking it up. Just like they gave up on mech. Just like dragons are going away next year.
Pirates pirates pirates
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>>161551246
You could probably just play dragon priest
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Expansion in 6 hours friends

What are you hoping to unpack?
What deck are you looking forward to play?

I want to unpack Solia and make the slowest greediest fucking Mage deck in the history of mankind with cabalist Alex medivh and tony

Just for the 1/100 games chance of managing a solia + firelands + atiesh spawn + tony aha
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>>161551079
>>161551321
Name any ally that was playable without other allies in the deck.

A good mechanic is one that revolves around something that occurs naturally in the game, with some cards benefiting from that natural event while other cards increase the regularity of that event.

A bad mechanic is something that tries to force something unnatural that either doesn't occur in a game or that you wouldn't normally want in a game. Like, cards that only benefit you when you have an empty hand, or cards that only trigger if you have a specific creature in your deck, or creatures with abilities that only trigger when you put creatures that only exist in the same specific set on to the battlefield.

Flavor doesn't matter if it's a mechanic that's either too parasitic or is built around unappealing criteria. It's still a bad mechanic.
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>>161551452
It really annoys me that if I ever want to play a tribe deck that's complete i'll have to go to unbalanced mode and play against super cancer, rotation is so fucking stupid
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>>161551497
I want to unpack aya, for jade rogue
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>>161551602
I dont want to unpack her just for that ;^}
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>want to play hearthstone
>but want MSoG ladder rewards, so cant log in

fuck, have I become a jew? I'm getting 70 packs from gold atleast, why do I care so much about this?
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>>161551546
>Like, cards that only benefit you when you have an empty hand

Hellbent was cool doe
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>>161551546
Any ally with changeling card is playable. For dicks said, you can play ally cards with Conspiracy enchantment.
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>>161551226
They have no idea what they're doing at all when it comes to design, I'm not even memeing.

It's clear by the mutliple cancerous cards in the past and the current state of shaman they do not playtest shit properly. I imagine they just order pizza and smoke a bowl, then play the memest of decks with the soon-to-be-released cards to think how many STORIES could this generate. The actual playtesting is the first month of ladder play after the expansion hits.

And that could be acceptable if making even the smallest changes didn't take them half a year and tons of bitching by the community.

After two years, they still have at best a vague idea how the game they're working on is played, which is even more apparent by their interactions with the community.
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How many packs are you good goys going to open?

120 here
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>>161551648
Got impatient grinding tavern brawl now.
I logged in because with the servers being shit at every launch I can't have a chance at a golden slowing me down.
Got all classics this time anyway.
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>>161551648
depends on which rank you got
if you got to 5 it's justified
if you didn't you are a jew
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why am I the only one that noticed the queue music is from Warcraft 2 ?
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>>161551701
I got 30k gold from play a friend abuse. Not sure how much I want to spend of it yet
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>>161551731
Fuck it, I'll just dust whatever golden epic I get and craft a MSoG epic
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Guys I got to rank 13 this season, 2 ranks higher than my previous best. Are you proud of me? :3
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>>161551754
epic plan
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>>161551701
60, i'm going to try to get a renolock control going ASAP
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>>161551754
>being this jew
anon don't
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>>161551497
post your would be dick
reminds me of this i like to play
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>>161551779
>rank 13
are you legitimately mentally challenged?
if no then you're an absolute failure.
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>>161551650
Hellbent had enabling cards and compensating cards though.

Yes, you were putting yourself at a disadvantage that was difficult to achieve but not only were there cards that benefited from that disadvantage, there were cards that made it easier to gain that disadvantage while also having a powerful board presence for being a disadvantageous card to have and there were other cards that made the disadvantage sting less and gave you little rewards for achieving it. These cards worked together in order to make a cohesive, functional mechanic that was just about okay.

Then look at the hunter in HS, that tried to copy Hellbent and failed miserably because it had no cards that enabled an empty hand or that gave compensation for an empty hand, only cards that benefited from an empty hard.
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>>161551779
good job anon
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>>161551847

Oh yeah, you're right, Hunter's hellbent cards are fucking awful
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>>161551701
35 packs with gold. May buy $20 later. Don't think I'll ever make the mistake of buying 180 packs again.
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>>161545509
probably enough for buff hunter, I don't think any legendaries go in that deck
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>>161551701
600

I have a serious problem.
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>>161551689
>But you can play cards with this parasitic mechanic restricted to a specific set with these cards, that also have a (slightly less) parasitic mechanic restricted to a specific set! Or you can play them with this extremely specific card! That means they're not parasitic!

Any synergy with changelings was likely unintentional and to be fair, Conspiracy enables a whole bunch of gamebreaking shit and is one of WotC's many regrets.
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>>161551497
i hope i get me are kazakus for free
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>>161552015
Hope you have a stable job anon. Thanks for feeding blizz for us.
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How many hours till release?
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>>161551497
I hope I get Aya because she's really cute.
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>>161551701
150, 40 of those with gold.
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Last minute prediction: this expansion and its largely-worthless cards will dumpster the game worse than TGT, but the relative volume of cards in the game will save it as a whole.
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>>161552097
about 48 in EU
like 11 in NA
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>>161552147
>like 11
I thought they were dropping at like 1 EST

That's in like 5 hours.
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>>161551701
Do you still get a free pack?
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>>161551701
20 got me everything I wanted and 3 legendaries from Old Gods, so that seems good.

Once you're using real money why not buy magic cards instead?
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>>161551576
hearthstone dev team is overall incompetent

they fucking rotate out a shit-ton of cards and release sets with months inbetween, and each set is 70% filler 20% some meme parasitic mechanic and 10% retarded broken shit with barely 5 or 6 playable new cards per class

and they will never again patch something because they're killed all interesting mechanics and "build-around" cards in the classic set, and anything else just rotates out so everyone needs to just put up with it until the next rotation haha

wild could be interesting but they never balanced naxx cards or shit like doctor boom, so there will never be a non-cancer meta there
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ETA ON FUCKING PATCH ?
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>>161552214
6 free packs from quests
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>>161552227

Two days ago
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>>161552227
Like two days ago m8
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>>161552243

and i WANT my packs
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>>161552227
2 bongs 29 bings IIRC
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>>161552221
Because magic is even more expensive and paper card games can only be played in person.

Hearthstone is more convenient and easier to play.
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>>161552221
>Hanging out with mtg nerds
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>>161552243
>only 6 packs from this expansion
>old gods gave us 13 free packs, two free commons, and a free legendary
blizzard what the fuck
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>>161552243
No, I mean like you used to get 1 free pack on the expansion release day.
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>>161552051
While I AGREE with what you say and mean, MTG offers us a gazillion of workarounds. While HS does not.
I play my 86 cards creatures only five colors ally deck and I enjoy it. And I even win sometimes.

Its not really PARASITIC, its just block-centered and block-oriented. Allies are THE SHIT in Sealed and Limited.
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>>161552328
you get 3 quests for 2 packs each
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>>161552062
dat cum manager
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>>161552328
We have no way of knowing that until the set drops.
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>>161552226
This reminds me, everyone knows Naxx cards are pants on head ridiculously overpowered. Like, vanilla statted 2 mana play a 3 mana spell on death levels of overpowered. Will they just leave them to shit Wild forever? It's no secret that basically every single good Wild deck uses Naxx cards.
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>>161552260
was that a referrence to something?
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>>161552362
>I play my 86 cards creatures only five colors ally deck and I enjoy it
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>>161551743

How do you abuse play a friend?
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>>161551497
If I don't get patches in my 100 packs I'll craft it and just spam pirate warrior on ladder
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>>161552460
you make alt accounts and bot them
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>>161552460
>have 50 accounts
>80 gold per lucky reroll
Only allowed in NA though, EU only lets you have 3 accounts.
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>>161552362
Block-centered and block-oriented is sort of the definition of parasitism though. Blocks have themes and cards should play to those themes but they should be playable outside of them.

For example, vehicles. They're a fresh, brand new mechanic that seems narrow and niche at first glance but they can easily be played outside of a vehicle-centric deck and they very frequently are, especially the infamous Smug Copter. Maybe that's a bit too ubiquitous though.
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>>161552450
But they are ALLIES, man. I cant separate then from each other
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>>161552328
We get less and less each fucking time.
Where's the free arena to preview the cards
Where's the tavern brawl to get us trying them.
Where's the free themed tourist legendary.
Where's golden promo cards for blizzcon.
Where's preorder card back.
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I'm still wondering why the fuck was I quoted here >>161552460
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>>161552541

Fricking smug copter is seeing playing in modern
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>>161552319
WOG was the first expansion of the standard rotation, they needed to give more free packs than usual for obvious reasons.
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>>161552439

Its called a "meme" not a "reference"
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>>161552541
But you can play Allies outside of blocks they were in with a lot of shit.
Come on, buddy. I can only think of Conspiracy and changelings, but im pretty fucking sure these are a ton of other cards that enable shenanigans
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>>161552146
and then all the good stuff will rotate out at the same time, and the game will be unplayable
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>>161552659
no, it's not.
it's just a fucking reference.
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>>161552518
>EU only lets you have 3 accounts
What? I have like 10 bnet accounts. Does it still work?
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>>161552518

Feels bad to be europoor
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>>161552628
I wonder if it would even have an impact if it was introduced to HS.

But then again, HS already has fucking insane 1-drops and I'm not sure if the Smug could compare.
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hearthstone is for gays lol
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i love dicks and hs lol
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>>161551779

Depends.

Since when do you play Hearthstone?
How big is your collection?
What deck did you play mainly?
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>>161552705
look at the gif quality. That's bait/ a genuine retard. Either way move on.
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>>161552713
>>161552713
It works, but if blizzard ever catches you you're liable to be banned for it.

NA is fine so long as no more than three of the accounts have a battle.net balance.
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>>161552720

Looting and flying wouldn't work in HS, sadly

>>161552725

I actually agree
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Shit /hsg/bearers say:

>Rogue is bad this expansion
>Genzo the shark is bad
>Jade golems are overpowered
>New priest cards are broken
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>mfw Kazakus decks are shit and Paladin is the new cancer
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>>161552884
nice of you to post our rank from last season scrublord eurofag
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i want kazaku's dick.
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>>161552884
The first and the third are very popular r/hearthstone opinions actually.
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>>161551846
He might not be playing a tier deck like most people
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>>161552948
/hsg/ basically just parrots reddit opinions anyways
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which 2 golden leggos should i craft with my dust?
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>>161553105
Kazakus.
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>>161553105

Thrillhouse and Cho
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>>161552725
>Hurr durr people will run a copy of a card just to autowin fatigue matches that happen once every blue moon.

You guys mean like...naturalize right now?
You're aware you can literally specifically do the very thing you're hyping up, running 1 otherwise useless card just to win fatigue, right now, by using naturalize?
Why the fuck would druid even go to fatigue with most control decks. Just because they are control doesnt mean they only play for fatigue. If they happen to have any sort of win condition, like Nzoth, what are you gonna do? Double swipe or something?


If Jade Idol is good it's because you put it in Jade Golem decks, and mostly because a 1 mana golem is pretty insane both for starting to ramp them and in the midgame where it can rival a 0 mana 5/5.
Not because of this shuffle 3 shit.
Most overhyped card of the expansion easily.
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MSG LITERALLY WHEN
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>>161553165
This is literally the game they want Kripp to shill for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL5aosk6pjA
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>>161553253
looks shitty.
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>>161553253
Man, Shadowverse's next expansion has taken a hell of a dive in art quality.
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>>161553193
Fandral jade idol is insane
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>>161553292
Ironically, it will still probably be better than HS.
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>>161552884
genzo is genuinely bad. anything that has to survive a turn is extremely suspect right off the bat, and genzo doesn't look like he'll be an exception
otherwise fine
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>>161553303
>Shadowverse ever having good art
LMAOO
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>>161551701
Around 50
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>>161553303
and he did not fly so good
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>>161551701
a quality tribute to the best chinese undead player in wc3

good stuff
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>>161551701

50 from Pre-order. 80 from gold.
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the overload mechanics do not punish the shaman enough.
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>>161553253
HAHAHAHAH it looks like so much fucking shit I almost vomited to death wtf is wrong with mobile games? they all look like this artistic casual cancer
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>>161553253
I can't wait for the new card monsters expansion so I can crop this shitty game
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>>161551701
I'm a semi wealthy fag and I usually buy like 120. But I realized that I mostly play arena so what's the point? I think I'll just buy like 7 packs this time.
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>>161553552
Like hearthstone?
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>>161553552
They appeal to actual children. Kids eat this shit up before they realize it's trash.
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>>161552832
What if I have accounts with games purchased on them?
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>tfw Calculords still hasnt had a sequel

>>161553358
It's art is fine, its just west vs east retardation all over again.
Where its art is lackluster though is in backgrounds.
Rowen, Elise and Urias arenas look great but haven looks fucking awful.
>>161553513
What makes mr shaman cancer is trogg, thing from below and spirit claws. The rest of his kit is fine though arguably 4 7/7 is also cancer.
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>5 dragon palladins on my last 10 matches

Did some streamer play this recently?
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>>161553513
They punish him fine. Shaman used to be the worst class in the game until priest took over. The only real bad part thing was benefitting from overload, like Trogg.

Once Trogg rotates, Shaman will be shit again(especially since it takes Totem Golem with it) unless Blizzard suddenly decides to get competent at card design and fixes their mistakes with Shaman in advance.
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>>161553501
>>161552000
>>161552015
>>161552105
>There are people on this board that believe these posts were not made by shills
It's the same fucking thing every expansion, we're not going to vomit real money for that shit
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>>161553292
>>161553303
>>161553552
Ain't you niggers be shitting on card monsters!

I loved that game. You know. 10 years ago? When it came out.
As a shitty flash game.


Ahahaha wtf why are they releasing that as a mobile game?
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>>161553667
>Where its art is lackluster though is in backgrounds.
Pretty much everything other than it's card art is shit from a visual perspective.
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i want to fuck the worgen greaser
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>>161553667
Shadow verse has decent art, it is overdesigned as fuck however and then again manga style is such a safe bet it's hard to fuck it up
Hearthstone has wildly varying art. There are very well drawn ones like Maly or Chillmaw or hell most of the dragons/imported from the TCG since Blizz has top notch artists and then there are a lot of pretty badly drawn cards. But it's to be expected since there are so many artists working on it.
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do I have to clear all of my quests in order to get the 3 quests that give you 2 packs?
or will they appear as I clear my regular ones?
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>>161553306
So is fandral+anything else.

You're still going to be topdecking 1 mana cards that dont do much by themselves if you dont have an actual JadeGolem deck to buff them, which is actually bad, not good.
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>>161553797
Tunnel snakes rule!
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GUYS
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>>161553789
>>161553813
Shadow era was honestly better in art style.

>calculords had a sequel planned but just failed its KS.

FUCK
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>>161553797
>tfw didn't pay attention to the manacost and though greaser was a shitty 3 mana card but it ended up being 4
Just why, the shitty tree taunt at least contributed to the "I know a guy" discover
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This is going to be the first expansion where i dont know a lot of the cards it will be fun finding them out in packs
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>>161553867
thats from the deck opening generator you shit.

It always say 3:11 for one for 2 the cards dont have to floaty animation when you highlight it nice try shitlord
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>>161553984
Have fun finding out that rogue has a stealthed magma rager
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When is the expac released in Europe?
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How many packs do I buy, or should I just preorder?
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I have 9k dust. Which legos do I craft tomorrow?
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>>161554003
Not really though
You can make your client do that
OBSERVE
http://a.pomf.cat/nifjfb.webm
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>>161554142
kazakus
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>>161554142
nogger
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>>161554118
Late December
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play Shadowverse
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Why did they even bother making cards like poisonous swamp ooze? Like, Acidic swamp ooze is better.

Why didn't they just switch over the effects and allow a slightly higher powered option?
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>>161554202
*farts*
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>>161554206
Arena
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>>161552226
I had a terrible feeling right before old gods launched when I looked at the cards that they were really trying to dilute card strength

here we are a few months later and I was absolutely right. When LOE rotates out and ICC or whatever adventure they shit out doesn't have meta defining legendaries like LOE this game is dead
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lads I've been away for a couple of weeks.

why the fuck is it that whenever people complain about a class being particularly weak they have to go and absolutely break it, instead of balancing the fucking game?

I can't believe they're honestly this fucking retarded.
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0 decides which golden lego I craft tomorrow. Only new ones
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>>161554280
Kazakus..
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>>161554202
Eat shit
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>>161554280
T H E

D O N
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>>161554206
Its based on the premise that most weapons only need 1 durability removed and that the reason bloodsail wasnt played is because its stats were shit for the effect.
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>>161554280
Madam Goya
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>>161554280
NOGGER
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>>161554206
Why did they bother making cards like Bloodmage Thalnos? Like, Azure Drake is better

The 3 mana ooze might see play in reno for example

There are even better examples, villager, which is the same fucking squire was run alongside it for the sake of having 4 copies of it in the deck
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>>161554280
Shaku
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>>161554379
desu Blood manos and Nig Nogger is OP, all minions randomly.
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GIVE ME MY FUCKING CARDS
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>>161554280
Noggenfogger
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>>161554280
Golden patches
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>>161554280
unchained
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hey is anyone playing right now i can spectate for my quest?

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Xebeche#11794
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>>161554440
Winrar
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>>161554440
based
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>>161554440
Have fun with le random meme stories man.
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>>161554280
Auctionmaster Beardo
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>>161554440
>>161554280
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>>161554440
Fugg which deck do I put him in? Gonna post a screenshot as soon as the exp is up on eu
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>>161554549
None! He's unusable! Like 90% of this expansion! :DDDDDD
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>>161554549
Yogg Saron + blood manos herk power shaman
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>>161554440
Who will be the first streamer to call it niggerfugger?
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>>161554549
Your best bet is shaman or drood.

Noggenfogger is best against combo decks and use it on the turn they want to lethal you.

Try to use it when you have a board so removing it is much more difficult.
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>>161551226

>The class that steals cards isn't Rogue, but the Priest

Boggles the brain I tell ya hwut
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>>161543921
Drakonid operative is really damn nuts huh

Maybe it's a good thing they only pushed aggro pally so priest doesn't have 5 mana 5/6 add tirion to your hand
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>>161554280
shitty rouge guy
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>>161554456
someone playing add me<3
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I have enough gold for 17 packs and a decent amount of dust. Going to put it all towards some Jade/Burgle/N'Zoth Rogue deck. Then I'll wonder why I still play this game when it doesn't work.

Life of a Rogue main, when will it be Valeera's time.
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Does noggenfogger affect the minions regular attacks or just spells? If it's the former case, then I think it might be quite hilarious to see barnes summon one.
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>Fall for the meme and try shadowverse
>Its weaboo as fuck complete with 50% of cards being little girls

>But they just throw packs at you when you start, even the newer shit
>And you get better odds on the rarer cards and more cards in general
>And the cards have more complex mechanics than "le + stat/stat"
>Very little rng from what Ive played
>40 card decks
>Evolve mechanic is really interesting (beats the hell out of the retarded shit that is hero power)
>Ridiculous amount of waifus
>Better graphics (arguably, just because 9/10 damage effects in hearthstone are the same generic fire animation)
>Has a story mode with lots of freebies
>This handsome fucker

Guys, it might actually be good

Not even shill. More annoyed that I wanna be excited for Mean Streets, but while we get shit like Shadow Rager and noggenfogger and hired gun, other games get fun shit

How is team 5 this fucking incompetent
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>>161547739
literally mogor the ogor + spells
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Why does the Shadowverse general have /hsg/ in the thread header? Are the threads made by a marketing department or something?
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Noggenfogger is going to be this expansion's Yogg

Meme card that will end up being used as a last resort Hail Mary since you already lost and he can steal a win or give you enough time to draw your cards

I fucking guarantee it
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>>161554894
Play Shadowverse
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>>161554818
Both, however targets can only be legal ones, thus minions attacking will only hit enemy characters.
>>161554938
No if anything hel be tech against combo. He does nothing to save you against a board
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>>161554273
>this being half as good as cultist
Cultists best triat as being able to drop it turn 3, have it live, drop a shredder and swing him into something so you have a 4/6 sticky sitting on the field.
Dropping this piece of shit on curve isn't going to do anything for you 70% of the time.
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>>161554890
Wait so it only has a 50 percent chance to redirect the spell/attack?

If so that really sucks.

Or do you mean that it can't make minions attack their own and it selects from a random enemy target rather than working like misdirection where it can hit anything?

Because that would also suck.
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>>161554982
>Not using it with the new Priest 2 drop to give it 6 health so you get more heals out of it.

Pleb
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>People shilling Shadowverse
>They aren't even getting payed for it
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>>161555110
THEY DO IT FOR FREE
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>>161554142
craft shaku
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>>161554793
Newfag
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>>161548707
What are you on about?
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>Aya's play sound
>this will play every single time she's summoned
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>>161540225
Don't make Grapplehammer if you're building a face / pirate warrior deck. The games end too soon and his value will be too little, he's better in a midrange / control list where you'll actually get to more weapons in your deck.
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>>161554839
stop fucking shilling holy shit

so fucking cringey
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>>161555080

Free 2/2s?!
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>>161555167
what is it?
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This shit better be good, my fucking steam account just got hacked by a Russian and it looks like steam won't give it back. 3000$ down the drain. MSG it's all on you
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Who else /prepared/?
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>>161555130

Shut the fuck up, that was years ago.
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>>161554894
I hope the weebshitters actually get paid to shill.

Streamers are getting $1000/hour to shill that shit, don't do it for free.
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>>161532108
If a card has battlecry deal damage to all minions it does NOT damage itself. There are already cards with that type of battlecry
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>>161555110
Those kinds of people are beyond repair
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3 more hours
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>>161555260

YOU ARE NOT PREPARED

lol
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>>161553253
>lucky shoes
>sharp flake
Holy shit
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>>161555298
i've always wondered what the room he played it actually looked like

also nice doggo
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>>161555338
ONE MORE DAY
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>>161555338
I think you mean 4
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>>161555338
>tfw EU and have to wait an extra week for the expansion
Suffering
Time to reroll on NA
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>>161555360
look at his youtube, his house is pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLhdHcC_1Rc
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>>161537461
Please god let this mean starcraft/diablo sets, alternate heroes, etc
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Will my golden king crush ever be useful? Should I just disentchsnt him?
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>>161555014
I don't believe it's 50% I think it just rolls a die essentially to see which target you hit, the attack might not necessarily be redirected if it randomly chooses the target you were going for

the second part of your question the answer is yes though, no flamestriking your own board or shield slamming face
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I get what you guys are saying about Jade cards. I mean look at C'thun, have you seen the cards? They are fucking insanely powerful and the only requirement is a 10 attack c'thun, and the deck type is garbage. Jade cards are unpowered as fuck, how is jade going to be viable?
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>>161555434
When trample is added to the game next expansion King Krush OTK decks will be tier 1
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>>161555398
FUCK
>>
I'm currently running beast druid, mostly because I committed to that class before I even installed the game because the "pick one" mechanic seemed cool and that was the cheapest competitive deck I could build.

I'm currently:
a) Tired of Druid
b) Tired of grinding rank with a 3rd rate deck
c) Aware that it's going to be gutted in a couple of months when BRM, LoE and TGT get rotated out

So what class and deck would you suggest as a good investment, as in:
a) Competitive
b) Not reliant on the cards that will rotate out soon

Or should I just tough it out until the first expansion of 2017 and see what floats then? Beast Druid is surprisingly good and annihilating shitty players who are still bellow legend during the last few days of the season, including mid-range Shamans. Considering I only ever grind to rank 5, it's not too bad.
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>>161550260
>dusted Zerus

no regrets honestly, fucker was always a Ysera turn 3 and a voodoo doctor turn 10
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>>161555401
You mean extra day right?
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>>161555440
He's worthless, people saying he's going to counter freeze Mage are retarded

>flame strike
Whoops counter countered ;)
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>>161554521
I want to smack that face with my cock
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>>161543921
>Literal whos try and rate some cards
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>>161554839
How about you just do the same thing sensible people do, and play both ?
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>>161555532
>day
yeah sure anon
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>yfw P4wnyhof will the most popular streamer during the release
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>>161555541
Yeah, he'd be so much better if he had at least 5 health instead of 4.
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>>161555492
That wasn't very funny
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>>161554839
Based shill bro

Play Cunnyverse!
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>>161555496
>trample
Isn't Knucles ability just better?
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>>161555496
>>161555434
I dont understand why they don't just make him 8 mana. He would be much much better
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>>161555532
>EU servers on release day
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>>161555440
>>161555014
He's not 50% you just have a random chance of hitting the target you targeted in the first place.
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>>161555672
yes
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>>161555672
This is the sleeper op card of the expansion
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>>161554839
>>Evolve mechanic is really interesting (beats the hell out of the retarded shit that is hero power)
>>Ridiculous amount of waifus
>>Better graphics (arguably, just because 9/10 damage effects in hearthstone are the same generic fire animation)
>>Has a story mode with lots of freebies
>>This handsome fucker
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>>161555672
Now imagine if it was a battlecry that affected all your minions
>>
>playing for a year+ now
>still haven't opened a single shadowform
>only just now opened 1 divine favor
>>
when the fuck does the expansion come out?
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>>161555868
This but with Doomsayer and Ragnaros
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>>161555821
I dont get it
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>>161555873
>>161532108
>>
It's really sad that C'thun decks are unplayable on ladder. What went wrong?
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well hsg, are they right?
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>>161555804
I think OTK Kush decks with the new buff cards will be sleeper OP
Imagine hitting the King with a +5/5 buff
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>>161555587
>>161555715
I meant its coming out tomorrowsame rime for them right?
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>>161555238
hearthhead.com/cards/aya-blackpaw

Lower your volume
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>>161555950
Vanilla minions
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>play SV
>they have minions that deal damage randomly, but they only target minions (no chance of wiffing on face)

I HS made this change I would be so fucking happy. Games being decided by a fucking 50/50 random ping from fiery bat are just god damn dumb.

It's kinda funny that in that game ragnaros is pretty much split into two minions, one that randomly nukes a minion and one that continuously nukes face (although if you evolve it it changes into a lightlord that constantly heals your face)

a lot more interesting than "random is random lmao" imo
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>>161555950

cthun warrior and cthun reno lock are viable, even in shamanstone
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>>161555950
C'thun is a starter deck for babies in a game where deckbuilding is already simple as fuck.
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>>161555965
paladin is replacing Priest as the worst class, people complain about rogue but paladin is already trash and got nothing OP to take it out of the trash tier.
>>
Why does Jaina have the best emotes?

Best wow
Best oops
Best greetings
Best thank you
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>>161556005
You a whiny ass bitch
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>>161555950

>Late game deck while Shamanstone and Hunter exist.
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>>161556109
Dragon pally should be tier 3 atleast.
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>>161555965
No. They haven't taken into account that Paladin's cards in Gadgetzan are all shitty low stated cards that have no place in an aggro deck.
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>>161555935
I meant how insane would Knuckles be if its effect was a battlecry that affected all of your minions?
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>>161556135

khadgar has the best oops
warlock has the best greetings
anduin has the best wow
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>>161555965
No. Sounds like it was written by a magazine or a gaming website.
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>>161556163
so trash tier?
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>>161556005
I'm going to craft the panda.
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>>161556135
Jaraxxus has the best emotes, always and forever

OOOOBLIVIOOOOON!
MWAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>161556163
When your best deck is Tier 3 that is a very bad sign.
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>>161556201
Yahoo gaming
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>>161555593
>implying the only "people" who watch him aren't viewbots
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>>161554793
Fellow rogue main; I have had success with OTK-ing people with evolved kobold and a shitton of 'other people's cards' to control the game to get to that point.

I'll probably experiment with the jade theme, but I feel that jade isn't going to be strong enough.
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>>161556223
Her s t a t s are so huge
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>>161556184
Yeah but that's just a random irrelevant question
>"What if Defender of Argus gave all of your minions +1/+1 and Taunt? That would be crazy, right?
Like, what's the point? It's just overpowered
>>
>play the Brawl
>opponent summons Jaraxxus
>my turn
>play a minion
>it casts Sacrificial Pact on him
>I win
Thanks for the story, Ben!
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>>161556074
>one that continuously nukes face (although if you evolve it it changes into a lightlord that constantly heals your face)
Other way around. Which actually makes it a decent finisher if it survives a turn since it also gains 3/1 instead of 2/2 when it evolves
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Here's a gem from pcgamer
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>>161556392
>Play the coinflip brawl
>Something random happened.
Thanks for the post anon.
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Which cards is most OP this expansion?

I think Noggenfogger will be Yogg-Saron tier
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>>161556223

http://www.hearthhead.com/cards/genzo-the-shark

Go fish
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Best entrance sound + music combination of the set

hearthhead.com/cards/knuckles
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>>161556458
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>>161556458
I guess they let anyone be a journalist now
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>>161556458
>Not even that great in wild with Hungry Dragon since a lot of 1-drops have 3 health
rip Finja
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>>161556458
>5 mana 2/4
>draw two cards at the start of your next turn (shitty murlocs at that)
>>>>>tempo

also does finja have to survive the attack?
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Are you /ready/?
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>>161556635
No. As long as the minion it attacks dies
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>>161555965
>best class for going aggressive - paladin
>paladin is garbage
Yay aggro is finally confirmed dead, clearly, it's time for the glorious control meta :^)
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>>161556817
>finally

aggro has been dead for a while now with shamans running 4 boardclears
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>this time tomorrow i'll be genociding shamans on ladder
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>>161556817
control dies against jade though
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>>161556906
that's a pretty fair assessment though, but I think hunters have stopped running argent squires
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>>161556617
Legit tier 1 once the expansion hits.

Bad match up against shaman though, so if they continue to be as powerful as right now you'll probably actually lose more than with a t2 deck that counters the meta.
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>>161556906

it's retarded in arena and viable in constructed
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>>161556458
>whenever attacks and kills a minion
>in a tier 4 deck where cycle is not exactly a problem
Yeah I'm not seeing it
Maybe if some sort of zoo murloc paladin finally becomes viable, but it's been like a third expansion where they're trying to push for this and so far it just doesn't work in a meta with actual good decks.
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>>161556906
This is more or less correct though. Alleycat is decent, it's probably going to replace midrange's 1 drops.

Why are you posting these, they just write the most circulated opinions. It isn't interesting or funny.
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How would hearthstone general feel if arena would change from 3 pick 1 to 3 regular cards + 1 from the latest expansion.

Do you think with the ever increasing card pool and stagnant non changing drafting system it will eventually need to get overhauled?
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>>161556541
jade idol
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>>161557150
Arena as a whole needs a fucking overhaul
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>>161557150
That's a stupid change and you should feel stupid
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>>161557150

they already do favored picks don't they, for a month or two after an expansion/adventure launches their cards have a 200% increased chance to be generated while drafting
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>>161557204
Finja. Screencap this
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>>161557115
people are talking about the game and I like hearing their opinions I'm not saying it's wrong. Lighten up dude I'm just passing time in class until I can open my packs
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>>161556576
All his points seem to completely avoid two obvious facts.

1 - It's a 5 mana 2/4
2 - It has to actually attack and kill an enemy minion for the effect to proc

If it was a battlecry then yeah it would be busted. As it is Finja is a minion with awful stats for both it's mana cost and effect (having low attack is really bad when your effect requires you to attack and kill something to occur) and the effect itself is WAY too slow and unreliable to be pulled off consistently.

You are relying on the opponent having a minion with 2 health on their board on TURN 5 OR LATER in addition to relying on them having no way to deal with Finja and no way to deny you the kill through trading their own minions the turn you play it.
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>>161557223
Yeah and thats fucking retarded because classes get cards to push a theme or a specific archtype, which is fine for constructed, but terrible in arena.

If you're class gets no 1 or 2 drops released in the expansion, you're literally worse off than if you'd get a fucking vanilla 2/3 like ferryman.
You're overall draft will maybe even go down if it's starting to get too hard to draft consistent early game, even if they introduce strong to nearly broken later game cards.

Having a scewed ratio on all three picks isnt really the best way to do things if you're not gonna commit to designing the set around giving a reasonable curve for arena.
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>>161557397
he also mentions the murloc buffing paladin card and vilefin inquisitor and Finley

I don't think he realizes outside of two cards murlocs are dogshit
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>>161557442
To reiterate, warlock got a 3 drop as their lowest manacost card this expansion.

If there's something like a 200+% occurance bonus you should actually consider drafting flame juggler over board clears or top tier 4/5 drops.

I firmly belive warlocks overal performance will go down because of this, even though they got some of the most busted arena cards of the set, with a good boardclear on a great body in the common slot.
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>trogg
>golem
>golem
>wolves

fuck me sideways, you guys sure priest will be worse than this?
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>>161557661
No one said shaman we going anywhere
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>>161532108
So what do you guys think of my ranked chest? I think it's gonna make some great dust. (I know everyone's saying wait for new set to open ranked chest but I could honestly care less about gold meme streets cards)
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That bomb squad guy is gonna cum in his pants every time she dies
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>>161557661

People have been saying from the very beginning shaman isn't going anywhere, Cuckduin is simply going to join his ranks.
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>>161557738
lay on hands is nice
rest is dust
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>>161557750
>those child bearing shortstack hips
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>>161557661
Dragonfire potion will feel like getting lightningstormed.

Expect they have the +Spelldamage everytime, and they get a high roll everytime.

One sided 5 damage aoe's mean you literally cannot contest the board with minions, if they have anything and you play something into that, even if you crush their board in stats, thats it.
If they have it you lose.
If you try to not contest them with minions but use removal to 1 for 1 their threats, they have both azure drake and draconic overlord, who are well insignicant bodies that replace themselves.
I cant guarantee it will be the strongest version of midrange, but if has every aspect that makes me hate midrange, so I hope not.
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>>161557750
RIP Sylvanus
Not quit as good as Bomb Lobber though, that guy was MVP
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>>161557790
Yea I already have double lay on hands though and two of every other decent epic. I'm no pleb and I have no concern for gold cards because I'm not an autist or a raccoon and therefore am not pointlessly attracted to shiny things.
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>>161557886
What is a leppo?
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>not 1(one) good stream for streets launch
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>>161555260
My mass DE is like 14k and I have about 4800g. Gunna use all my gold on packs and go from there.
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>>161557886
Really not RIP Sylvanus though right? It's almost only good if they Slyv an empty board which is already a pretty big no no so I don't see that card getting much play because of how easy it is to play around.
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>>161558010
Sylvanas on an empty board is pretty common though

still not worth playing a random understatted 5-drop in anticipation for a card your enemy might not even have
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>>161557925
>hde doesn't have golden jaraxxus
lmaoing@urlife
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>>161557952
kripp starts streaming in 15 minutes iirc
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>>161556906
will play it with starving buzzard for fun
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>>161557952
3hours left, everyone will be on when it comes out, wtf are you on about
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> can preorder only once
this jews don't want my money ?
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I WANNA OPEN MY PACKS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Will EU have to wait this time?
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>>161557661
Priest will be less brutal on the curve, but you'll feel even less inclined to play anything on the board than against shaman. Against shaman, playing anything on the board feels like a waste of mana because he'll just remove it with spells/claws or make favorable trades with his overstatted shit. Against priest, playing anything on the board is like walking through a ghetto with a briefcase.
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I started playing a little after Whispers of the old Gods came out, so this is my first expansion release.

Do any of these new cards actually look like must-haves, or are most just gimmicky?
I'm debating whether or not to buy the 50 packs preorder, or just save up dust and just craft the few cards that are huge deals.
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>>161558358
That sounds fun and interactive
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>>161558358
Drakonid operative looks so fucking strong.
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>>161558412

this expansion will force new decks that will be around for the next 2 years, if you're into the game I'd get the preorder since you'll probably end up kicking yourself for missing out on the 10 """""""free""""""" packs later on
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>>161558412
you started at the start of blizzards push to make every expansion entirely filler and make every card underpowered.

there are no must haves but if you must craft something hop on the priest train
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>>161558446
SECRET AGENT, COMING THROUGH
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>>161558320
>
yes
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>>161558320
OF COURSE
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>>161555191
really? i figure he can provide about 6 damage over the average pirate game, which makes him a decent 2-drop
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>>161532108
what deck should i play if i'm a gay furry owo
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>>161558412
most of MSG is unplayable trash

preordering basically gets you extra dust to craft the few good cards you'll want
whether that's a good deal is up to you
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>>161558619
Priest
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>>161558619
reno priest
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happy feast of winter veil !
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EARLY MORNING KRIPP!!!
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>>161558619
beast druid
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>>161558619
dragon priest
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>>161558412

Nobody can tell for sure, everybody is guessing. People will be testing all the cards now, so wait 2-3 weeks untill the meta stabilize and then decide what to craft.
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>>161558541
You probably will actually end up playing not that many (actual) weapons, just FWA and arcanite reaper (and first mate of course). I think Upgrade won't even get ran. The focus will probably be pirates now, it'll look more like a midrange deck with a bunch of 4 drops. This thing adds like 4 damage if you play two weapons and go exclusively face with them, it's really not that good.
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>>161558682
>watching Kripp "shills pay the bills" arrian
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this is a boy.
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hello when does the new expansion release

can someone also buy me packs plz
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>>161558793
sent ;)
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>>161558784
This only gets me harder.
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>>161558784
i'd fuck the shit out of it no matter what tbqh
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>>161558784
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>>161558010
Sylvanas'ing an empty board is a good move though

It either forces removal which is mana that could be spent on building their own board or forces them to commit a lot of minions to dilute Sylvanas' chances of messing them up

Control decks drop Sylv on empty boards all the time.
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>>161533516
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>>161558856
i did not receive

please send again to [email protected]
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Where are my packs Blizzard, it's 10:05
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>>161558784
prove it
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>>161559141
10 am pst genius
3 more hours.
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I think I'm ready for this.
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>>161537036
Gadgetzan canonically undergoes a huge population boom following cataclysm, the WoW in game representation is the incorrect thing here.
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>>161559186
WHO USES PST AS A STANDARD FOR ANYTHING?????
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>>161559184
is too cute to not be a boy
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>>161559241
basically everything remotely tech related

you see there's this place in PST called California..
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>Even Kripps loves this braw
>But plebbitors still salt because ''muh RNG'' and '' can't netdeck here ''
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is hearth arena still the best place to pick cards for retards?
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>>161559327
>you have a different opinion from muh fav twitch e-eceleb? LUL
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>>161559321
California is shit. SHIT

So I was playing noob tempo, now I'm experimenting with frost. Anyone have a good NOOB deck?
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New Thread:

>>161559559

>>161559559

>>161559559
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>>161559452
Yea are you NA? If so I'll play you with best noob deck.
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>>161559414
>Having the same opinion as braindead hiveminded cucklord cunts
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>>161559186
Kripp said it's earlier than that
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>>161559670
>having opinions
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http://www.hearthhead.com/cards/weasel-tunneler

>THAT SHIT EATING WHEEZE LAUGH
10/10
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>kripps only minion dies to bane of doom

WAS GETTING WRECKED PART OF YOUR PLAN?
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WHEN DOES THE EXPANSION COMES OUT

WHY

WHY SO LATE

WHY STILL NOT NOW

WTFFFF
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WTF BREHS KRIPP IS OPENING MEAN STREETS PACKS AND I DONT HAVE ACCESS YO BUY EM

EUROKEK BTW
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