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The Dork's Black Wings Edition

Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone /hsg/
The Steam version launched on October 28th.

Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799676100

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh

Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor for the lazy or mentally handicapped. Open wide and enjoy responsibly:

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

You can listen to both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://89.40.121.179/sv.html

Broken: >>161406964
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1st for Shadowcurvestone
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Reminder that no nerfs have been confirmed at all and people are just taking the article completely out of context. Cynthia, Liza, DShift, and Elana are all safe for now.
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Dork.
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>>161429259
DANCING WITH MYSELF
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Take Two
Swordcraft
4 Avant Blader.
Yes / No
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Reminder to remove Elf
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>>161429139
I want to fuck Forte so bad.
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>playing tempo elf in unranked

fuck off faggot
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Post your animated legos.
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>>161429259
Unicorn "Dancer" Unica.
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Lads I'm running out of deck spaces

And I need a second slot for every deck as I rework them after expansion
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>>161429383
I want to get fucked by Forte so bad.
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>>161429367
4 is too many.
Seriously why the fuck is Avant Blader common? Sword didn't need any help in take-two.
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You won't believe how hard I worked to pull that off, and then she won't even let me enjoy it. Elves are cunts.
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>>161429409
I sold mine cause it was animated Skullfane and I felt insulted.
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>>161429409
I had two fairy princesses on Day 1 and I dusted them to make a deck

No regrets
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>>161429439
Just save your decks to the shadowverse portal
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>>161429409
I only have Mythril Golem animated, the arm shaking is weird as fuck.
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Wish me luck guys, its' been a long road.
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>>161429479
All Elves are in need of removing
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>>161429614

>haven

No
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>>161429614
ganbatte eris
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what the fuck is this icon
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>>161429614
I hope you never win another match
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WHICH ONES SHOULD I DUST

NEED TO GET RID OF AT LEAST 3 FOR CERBERUS
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>mulligan away a Garuda
>receive Garuda

T-thanks Mr. Bird.

Of course then I drew Aria + Dogma so it doesn't matter.
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>>161429139
What happened to her nose
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Do we get free packs when expansion drops?
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Should I liquefy Beast Dominator and Zirnitra?
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Where were you when this game decided it wants to be curvestone?
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>>161429808
You get it for participating in a JCG tournament.
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>>161429808
He's a G
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>>161429863
Fairy Princess and Rose queen are the worst but they could be great in the expansion
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>>161429614
Here you go.
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>>161429863
Fairy Princess
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>>161429863

>dusting before expansion

nigga you dumb?
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>Its always a haven shitter disconnecting
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>>161429863
Olivia, LotF, and Tia are garbage tier.
Vampire Queen is alright but definitely dustable.
Rose Queen and Fairy Princess are really good, and Mythril Golem is insanely good so definitely keep it
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w-wish me luck guys
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>>161429710
>>161429781
>>161429813
I got out paced by face dragon as storm
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>>161429898
WAH I CAN'T PLAY MY SPEEDBUMP DECK THAT AUTOWINS AGAINST CERTIAN OTHER DECKS

WAAAH
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*plays turn 4 meme banner*
*emotes at you*
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PERSONAL CARD SLEEVE WISHLIST

Ivory Dragon
Heavenly Hound
Astaroth's Reckoning
Prince Of Darkness
Dire Bond
Pixie Mischief
Rhinoroach
Forest Bat
Medusa
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>>161429863
one Cerberus won't do much. just keep rerolling so you can unpack one and craft a second
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>>161430017
>its always a jap disconnecting
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>>161430056
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>>161430056

Good
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>>161429863
I am a newbie and don't know about meta, but I vote for Rose Queen and Fairy Princess, I even like of forest, but those are just mediocre.
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Allow me to shitpost over here as well.
>go first vs control
>win
>go first vs banner
>win
It seems to me that mid-range Swordcraft is the best Swordcraft deck and everything else is HOT FUCKING GARBAGE.
I therefore claim this smug Floral image as property of the superior mid-range player base.
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>>161430094
Rika Jougasaki
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>>161430056
Hear the dragons roar!
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>>161430124
>>161430017
It literally is always a haven playing jap for me

No jokes
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>>161430013
Why is that a bad thing?
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>>161430082
*plays 1 drop 2 drop 3 drop 4 drop*
heh get out skilled...kid
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>>161429614
Good luck, anon!
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>>161429898
Nowhere since that hasn't happened?
Fucking hell have you seen the new Forest legendary?
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>Enhance
Will it be a meme mechanic like Vengeance?
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>>161430207

not even hsg trolls bait this badly
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>>161429614
>>161430056
Get fucking rekt you cancerous storm haven shitter
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>>161430056
Good
Now go and think about what you did wrong and then play a non cancer deck
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>>161430208
Anytime someone posts like this you can immediately disregard their argument.
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>>161430056
what happens when you lose your trials?
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>>161430314
>just climb ladder with a shitty deck
nope, that's why you're still in the shitter ranks
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>>161430270

It's just Necromancy for everyone.
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I can't wait to have enough vials to craft a T1 quality braindead Forest deck.
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>>161430390
You lose a few points and basically are a game off restarting them
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>>161430390
Nothing, you just redo them, masters is just an inevitably for me now.
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>>161430270
Why would it? The new Dragon spell card actually seems pretty good and it's basically a replacement for Conflagration.
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>>161429534
It was animated man. It was your time to make Skullfane great again. You could have been the new Atomeme revival.

>>161430270
Has vengeance ever been useful with all the kill from hands?

>>161430394
>Implying
At least others still have a soul unlike your netdeck
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>>161430394
>I need to netdeck to get into master

congrats on being a shitter forever.
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>>161430021

gambate
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>>161430390

You are stuck there forever until you win those 2 games
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>>161430448
oh that's not as harsh as I thought it would be neat
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>>161430485
>>161430487
see you in masters then, oh wait :^)
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> 4th 4-1 today.

Alright, I'm giving up on Taker of Two for now. Not skilled enough.
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>>161430547
Yeah, but I wont be filled with an empty feeling of dissatisfaction when I get there.
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>>161430615
>projecting this hard because people don't play decks that he approves of
kek
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>>161430503
thanks Vampy
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>>161430557
The secret to getting 5-0 is getting lucky
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>>161430447
Forest in this game is like a blue snapcaster deck with cryptic command in magic the gathering. Ass loads of synergy super powerful combos and cards and answers for everything.

Players of this archetype will also insist it is the most skill intensive even though it consists of holding up mana and winning the game while all the so called linear decks have to carefully bait out the counter and conserve resources to even have a chance.

And compared to those decks in MtG forest is simpler still.
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>haven't won a single match in B rank
How am I supposed to get cards to build a meme deck if I can't win matches to get packs? How do all these guys have PTPx3, Crystallia Tiax3, D-Shiftx3, Garudax3 and all the sword legendaries where I'm making do with some half baked Dragon deck with one Forte and one Genesis Dragon?
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>>161430763
Someone's salty about control
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>playing tryant vs elana
my one gimmick combo is weaker than their 3 mana amulet
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>>161430871
UB Delver is not a control deck, at least not a dedicated one.
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>>161430871
I'm not salty about control in fact i play a counter spell control deck in MtG. But in its heydey those cryptic command filled splinter twin decks were absolute cancer because of how they could attack and control from every angle, they could win with board control and win with a dumb combo. Which is where forest is right now.
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Feetpussy wife
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>>161429884
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HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY SHIT

https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/803674926901182464

NEW STORY MODE CHAPTERS

CON
FUCKING
FIRMED
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>>161431093
They aren't in the meta. Liquefy away if you need the vials.
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Did I DC? It's been like this for ~3 minutes. I've seen the disconnect meme but this just says thinking eternally.
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>>161429884
>Should I liquefy GOLD_OR_LEGENDARY_CARD two weeks before we get an expansion that might turn everything around?
Zirnitra is a good card for Control Dragon, keep it unless you absolutely hate Dragon's Overflow/Ramp gimmicks, and need vials urgently.
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>>161431094
great maybe I'll finish the story now
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>>161431094
Not really.
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>>161431218
Sometimes it takes a bit
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>>161431175
>>161431224
thanks lads.
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>>161431094
packs
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>>161431218
Had the same thing a couple of hours ago. Took quite a while till a now loading appeared for the opponent with me getting a free win.
Just listen to some music or watch anime on your second monitor.
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I rode Garuda's wings to the highest of heights. Haven haters BTFO.
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>>161431094
How did you get new chapters out of that post?
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>getting 6 Mini Soul Devil procs in total between two on my field in T2

Best daughteru.
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>>161431428
http://89.40.121.179/vo_100521010/e_00003.wav
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>>161431310
Don't fucking vial zirnitra you fucker
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>>161431428
post dick pls
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>>161431428
Much inferior to confirmed master vampy
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>First match is against dirt rune
>Nothing but spells
Really not how I wanted to begin the session.
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>Got animated fafnir
>Tempted to dust it because aggro dragon is the only good version

I know i shouldn't with the expansion around the corner but damn i want my 3rd cerberus
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Bullying Luna
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>>161431632
INTERACTIVE
GAMEPLAY
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>>161431579
Pretty standard I think.
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>>161431428
Good job. Freedom Eagle salutes you
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>>161431827
lame
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>>161431734
that's not how it turns out though (^:
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>>161431827
>no Moon Al-Miraj
Do you even storm haven?
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>>161431428
>not a class personally approved by yours sincerely
doesn't count
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>>161431530
What card is that?
I have "okaasaaaaaaan" burned into my mind, but for the heck of me can't remember.
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>>161431827
how essential was Urd in ladder? I don't have her, put two Wind Gods instead
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>>161431094
so many (you)s
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>>161431992
Playful Necromancer
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>>161431981
Moon girl is a worse demonic strike 90% of the time, and demonic strike is a mediocre card for 4 points. I guess you could run 1, but two is way to heavy imo.
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what's the most fun deck you know? tired of playing haven
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>>161431973
It is tho
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>>161432115
Wait what?
I remember now, it's actualy obaa-chan.
Quality dubbing I see.
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>>161431998
Urd is mandatory, she will win you as many games as the rest of cards and has good synergy with the deck. Wind god is not going to work since, as you get skilled with the deck you will notice that in most match ups, you want to stagger your minions/amulets.
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>>161432210

satan dragon maybe?

pretty sure you only need 1 copy of him there.
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Is Aggro Dragon a good deck?
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>tfw board is full as midrange sword on turn 5
>you have sage commander for 6
>enemy has empty board and DoD's something

感謝します
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>>161432210
Flute Dragon + Satan
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Can I get a concede please

90657
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>forest fucker plays the same fucking tia 4 turns in a row
How the fuck is a 6/6 ward and rush for 5 balanced?
This is a hilariously broken game
I'd rather go back to curvestone than have to play versus broken forest/sword/haven cards non-stop
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>>161431820
I hate Path to Purgatory so much dude.
>Just run Execution
Kind of a waste when 90% of the amulets played don't actually care about it. And that Path to Purgatory generally isn't going to come out until it's going to close the game.
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>>161432401

Thanks senpai
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>>161432583
They told you leave anon, you have no one to blame but yourself
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>>161431094

not confirmed for shit
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>>161432583
No one is stopping you from playing hearthstone.
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>>161432686
It's updating.
I guess blizzard actually patches their games once in a while?
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>>161432381
No, you got lucky topdecks while enemy had shit draws all game.
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>>161431428
MOM Fags BTFO
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>>161432583
>forest/sword/haven
Three classes each with 3 types of decks and variations.
This is why you stop to play shamanstone
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>>161432313
>>161432395
wait, who is Satan?
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>>161432583
>play
Flip a coin in hearthstone, you mean
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>>161432857
prince of darkness
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I'M CUMMING.... ON YOU!
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>>161432857
I am.
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>>161432830
Well I lucked out and have no cards to play that with

So I guess I'll have to go to P2W HS that does not need 40k vial decks to be competitive.
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>>161430813
Get all the easy gold from beating the elite AI etc. Sounds like you have awful luck or have wasted vials. Not all decks are pimped netdecks in B but they aren't exactly uncommon either. Look into cheap strong decks like stormhaven and banner. You're gonna have a hard time in B with an incomplete forte dragon deck (and even worse without any fortes like me).
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>>161432583
>people in hearthstone never have perfect hands

yeah seems about right when 7/10 cards involve coin flips.
I played Hearthstone for a year, and man did they send it straight down the gutter for e-sports and streaming memes.
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>>161432907
oh..
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>>161432947
What deck is 40k vials lol??
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>>161432947
Only forest, control sword and blood require that much.
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>>161432857
Who knows
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>>161432947
This is bait right? i don't need to repeat that there are a lot of cheap decks in all the tiers and variations of each.
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>>161432863
preferable to the bullshit I face on ladder here
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>>161433027
its forest or sword

cant remember which
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>>161432947
or you could make a bannermeme for 2k vials and sail to master
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>>161433115
Okay, next time you lose to a shredder, bomber, or any of the other random cards, make sure to remember that.
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>>161433091
Of course it's fucking bait, this started with someone complaining that SV was too broken so they wanted to go back to Hearthstone.
Where Shaman is the only tier 1 class.
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Please, can I get a concede senpai?
40557
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We could make a chart of all the shitters things

First: Haven is not op is just a cheap and famous class
Second: Vampire Fortress do the damage if you ahve four cards and one bat is summoned in the end of the turn

What more?
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>>161433027
Every control and midrange deck that does not suck
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>>161432210
Anything with dragons. Throw in a couple of fortes if you want to stay competetive.
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I sure love losing because I can't draw any value cards or even card draw itself!

I sure as fuck killed that dumb bitch Otohime though!
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>>161432313
If you make some weird deck with only Satan costing 6+?
I think you'd have a hard time drawing your stan unless you mix it with Discard Dragon or something.
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>>161433226
Thanks!
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>>161433316

there's cards that search high cost followers, but discard dragon works too.
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>>161433154
I don't give a shit about getting to master.
I want to play a interesting fun deck, not fucking face decks.
But that's not allowed because legendaries are ridiculously over valued here and you need 3x cards.
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>>161429479
Probably just couldn't stand another second of looking at your ugly fucking leader and realizing you actually spent rupies on that.
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>>161433248
MIsunderstanding Liza
Executing Haven amulets
Urd for fanfares
Elana (the card) is OP
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54380
Concede or witness the power of shitty aggro blood, your choice
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>>161433446
You forgot vampiric fortress.
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>>161433310
Should've played Lord Atomy
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>>161433091
>lots of cheap decks in all variations

Name one non-aggro
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YOU LIKE THE COLD?
YOU LIKE THE COLD?
YOU LIKE THE COLD?
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>>161433616
pure elana
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Please concede for my private match daily!

40162
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> He can evolve since he played Olivia
> He has 10 HP
> I have an Evolved Hydra and a Siegfried
> He evolves and trades into Siegfried

What did he mean by this?
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>>161433391
Yeah, Emissary.
You either have Satan as the only 5+ drop in your deck, which defeats the purpose as you can't run Cavaliers then
OR you run few 5+ drops and hope that you pull Santa when you need him.
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>>161433616
Budget Elana
Storm (it's technically midrange)
Seraph
DShift
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>>161433248
>Haven is not op
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>Fucking Venomous Hornet comes out on an empty board
I'd say that this is perhaps the only time that Lord of the Flies RNG has let me down but seeing as he had Death's Breath and Demon Strike in hand I had a 1 in 3 chance of not fucking losing anyway.
>Get demoted to B1
Lovely

>>161433574
Lord Atomy would have just lost that game harder and I never had the ability to put that many creatures on the board at any point in the game.
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>>161433316
Dragon emissary searches for 5 and up, so everything else needs to be below if you want draw consistency. I found it pretty shit (entirely homemade deck though) and just threw a satan into my rampdeck instead.
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>>161433310
Please don't call my wife a dumb bitch.
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>>161433248
holy SHIT this is the THIRD time going FIRST this week, how im supposed to WIN
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>>161433660
That needs 6 golds and lategame leggos
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>>161433446
Elana isn't OP, Elana with Radiance Angel, Monastic Water, Curate, etc. Already in hand and ready to go is OP. You shouldn't be able to establish a strong board, heal, and draw cards with 1 card ever.
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>>161433718
Typically people ran Cavalier anyway because getting Satan with Cavalier was too good to pass up, even if it meant sometimes you got her instead of Satan from the Emissary.
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>>161433817
Elana doesnt run any legos tho
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>Nature's Guidance now costs 3 mana
This destroys Forest
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>>161433616
I'm playing a budget purgatory, but I really feel like the deck lacks something without the legends. I need almost 30k vials to complete that shit...
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>>161433846
>Elana isn't OP

t.Elana
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>>161433746
Budget elana sucks
Seraph needs 3x leggos at the minimum
Dshift is terrible
Strom is aggro
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>>161433817

No leggos and 6 golds is expensive now? What the fuck
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>>161433886
It runs your choices of Lucy/Olivia/Odin
However the deck does not need legendaries, especially in the lower ranks, as it can just use Curate for the late game.
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>>161433867
Not saying you don't, but imo it's too risky to run 1 Satan and 1-2 Cavs.
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>>161433978
anything not banner is too expensive
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>>161433886
>lucifer
>olivia
>bunny
>odin

Yeah you could run it with nothing
But then it will suck
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>>161433846
>Elana isn't OP
LUL
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>>161433846
its the sum of havencraft parts

elena decks have SEVENTEEN cards that provide healing in someway, some also provide card draw, like monestic holy water and radiance angel

then you've got more card draw in sacred plea and prism priestess

then you've got some of the best removal in the game like scripture, cudgel and themis'

and to top it all off, cards like Aria.

like, the entire deck is filled with ridiculous cards
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>>161434012
>1 Satan
Anon, if you're running Satan Dragon Ramp you do not just run one of your win condition. Typically it was a 2-2 split so you'd have a 50% chance to draw either.
The deck is a gimmick anyway and Satan is better in just a typical dragon ramp deck as a sub for another late game card.
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>>161434095
>>161433974
Literally netdeckers that lose all day because of going first and "rng".
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>>161434034

I hope you are being ironic.
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>>161434160
Read the reply chain buddy.
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>>161433978
You cannot comprehend just how paralyzed in regards to vialing shit people are here, I've managed to build complete versions of every sword deck, tempo forest, birds, bats, face dragon and aggro shadow in like a month and half without spending a dime just by melting junk, the only reason why I'm not finishing DShift is because I'm saving for the new expansion right now.
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>>161433817
You get like 50 fucking packs the first few evenings with the game, if you can't make 6 golds in one craft you have larger issues than video games.
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>>161433978
Except it has leggos
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>>161433974
>Seraph needs 3x leggos at the minimum
15k vials is not expensive
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>>161434263
And you get 5+7 arena tickers this is more 12 packs
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>>161434263
>vial everything
>make one deck
>can only play one deck now

fun
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>>161433482
Hope that was ok, anon. Wanted to test my new dragon deck against some aggro.
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>>161434095
You don't need any of those, fattened up curates do the job more than fine enough.
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>>161433947
<:^)
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>>161434149
I also play aggro blood but nigga its turn 10 youre never gonna win that shit
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>>161434386
You don't need a fucking perfect netdeck from day one anyway.
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>>161434386
This is bait report this shitter
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someone post otohime bodyguard full art

plx
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>>161434386
I made a face dragon day 1 by vialing trash legos from my reroll

Within like a month I had Csword and Seraph from packs and vialing just trash legos and gold

Now I have twice as many decks from also going through and vialing cards that I have animated copies of
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>>161434149
LUL
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>>161434451
>>161434412
Like i said this are the netdeckers they need a complete deck from a random website to play
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Why are aggro players the biggest complainers that call every other deck no skill?
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Do you drop Skeleton Fighter Turn 1 in T2? It's worst that other 1 drops, and 1 shadow to activate its Necromany effect is pretty easy. Then again you miss some early free face damage potentially.
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Do we start at the rank we finished at in the new season or do we climb from d0 again?
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>>161434153
This. And which card is enabling this shit? Elana. I suggest just increasing the PP of elana so the other player has a better chance to react, rather than getting drowned in roided followers while seeing any face damage he might have done getting removed at the same time. Obviously decree needs to go to 8 PP minimum.
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>>161434596
t. elanacuck
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>>161434519
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>>161434451
The problem is that some cards are just stupid broken and they are golds and leggos.
So it does not matter if you netdeck or not, if you don't have these cards you will just lose.

But then also only some classes have them. So if you got cards for the other shitty classes you're shit out of luck.

The fact that people keep harping about re-rolling is proof of this.
If you didn't gt the key cards early you're just fucked.
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>>161434637
There's no reset outside of the masters ladder
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>when you trick the player into thinking you're fucking by not playing anything so they don't make any defensive plays like playing wards

feels good man
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>>161434095
>running any of those in Elana
Elana doesn't need legos to be good. If you honestly believe Elana needs legos to be good than you're a shitter. Elana is busted enough just by playing a bunch of heal minions that fill your board with overstated minions.
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>>161434670
cute CUTE
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>>161434393
That was great, thanks. Now you know it wrecks super-budget aggro.
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>>161434423
Nice dragon disguise Elana.
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>>161434790
tbf to them Lucy elana is better against other control decks
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>>161434670
>>
>ptp elf exists
No, but elana the tier 2 deck is op
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>>161434547
Yeah I have decks that I can do dailies with.
But the devs decided only two classes are allowed to have fun and I've gotten no cards from them.
And you can't just make midrange/csword or tempo/ptp elf
Because you need 20k+ vials each
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>>161434821
But aggro bats is one of cheapest decks. How do you budget a budget deck?
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>>161434574
Thanks for triggering me again anon.
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>>161434857
>her tummy glows

you think

you think you'd see the shadow of your penis if you put it in her
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>>161434954
god bless
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>>161434895
>>161434684

please ignore and report greedy netdeckers
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>>161434714
Why would one assume you were fucking if you played nothing? Please, explain.
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>>161434954
Don't let it get to you!
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I am honestly sick and tired of the blatant turn 2 advantage. I've lost so many god damn games just because they could evolve a third time
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>>161434881
People act like Elana is the worst, most broken shit ever and I don't understand at all why this is the case. I can think of at least 6 decks off of the top of my head that are either far more powerful or far more fucking annoying to deal with.

And someone is going to reply to us with
>t. Elana main
Because everyone is retarded.
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>>161435096
they just cleared the board on turn 4 and i skipped turn 5 playing nothing with 3 storm heroes in hand

had the player played a ward, i might have lost
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>>161435173
You probably lost because you're bad, but you don't realize it because you're bad
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>My 3 Mini Soul Devils deal 6 damage over the entire match and clench the victory within 6 turns

Holy shit, best daughteru confirmed.
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>>161435178
t. guy who knows what he's talking about
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>>161434790
>If you honestly believe Elana needs legos to be good than you're a shitter
Is that why there's an 8% difference in winrate between Seraph Elana and just Elana?
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im new to the game, what should i liquify to finish my elana-seraph deck? im missing 3 elana's and 3 themis decrees
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>>161435220
xd
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>>161435173
If you think about it, "enhance" will probably fix this
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>>161435178
t. Elana main
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>>161435256
>Control Vampire
You are one of those 6. Righteous Devil fucking salts my slug fuck him.
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>>161435178
>B rank shitter thinks his opinion holds any ground
Funniest thing I've read here desu
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>>161435178
t. elanacuck
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>>161435173
Play aggro or combo decks.
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>>161435178
t. masters player
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I hope they do some sort of preorder bonus. I'd like to just spend fifty bucks or something and get a ton of packs of the new expansion at a discount. I don't think they did this for DE did they?
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>>161435282
You should make a seraph deck in real tcg you don't even ''win'' anything for free you need to pay for any pack to play
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>play t2
>get a choice between rune, blood and dragon
>mediocrity all over the board in dragon
>no ramp and only 2 dudes with ward
>go against sword 5 (five) times
>all are A to Master rank

Why do people claim this is fun again?
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Will they really nerf combo trash in the future update?

If that's true then there's hope for this game.
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How likely is it that crystals will be discounted during Christmas? Did Cygames ever discount premium currency in their other games?
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>>161434684
The game is f2p, naturally some cards are going to be stronger so to give an incentive to spend money on the game, especially if you want several different competetive decks in different crafts. If you somehow got nothing but garbage cards you can just reroll.
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>>161435282
It's super inefficient to dust cards, but

Love's Gospel
Dracomancer's Rites
Laura
Arthurian Light
Athena
Arcane Enlightenment
Rogue's Creed
Selwyn
Medusa
Polyphonic Roar

aren't used in any tier 1 or 2 netdecks
You can dust Midnight Haunt and Tyrant too, but they're fun
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>>161435543
go back to hsg
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GET THE CAMERA YOU SLAG

(Tried out ptp in tyrant as well but it seems superfluous most of the time)
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Literally the easiest pick of my life.

Left, right?
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>>161435495
Shoulda picked Rune. Rune is good against Sword.
>>161435543
Unlikely.
Back to Hearthstone with you.
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>>161435495
If you draft well, and worry about curve more than gimmicks like ramp, you will almost always get 3 wins.
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Turns out having a board full of bane minions is pretty good in T2.
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>>161434895
This is like complaining that you can't play Renomage or Control Warrior right from the start in Hearthstone and those two expensive decks are the only ones you think will be fun.

Without spending money in either game, I could probably make every relevant deck in SV before completing a control warrior.
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>>161435476
Why would they? Crystals always cost the same amount.
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>>161435543
>withdrawal symptoms of a curvestone addict
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>>161435495
>playing T2 during Japan rush hour

ayy
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>>161435274
>le statistics meme
I don't give a shit what some data says. I've never lost to a single fucking Seraph Elana in my life but have been shitted on by countless pure elanas
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>>161434909
You don't craft anything and use harnessed glass instead of good cards
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>>161435256
>t. guy who knows what he's talking about
You're playing a fucking hard counter to Elana

And guess what like most of the other hardcoutners to Elana it's a lower tier deck so it isn't used much
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>>161435619
right
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>>161435619
ye
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>>161435494
what?

>>161435590
thanks a lot, man
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>>161435725
Fair enough.
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>>161435680
>My personal experience means more than hundreds of games played by multiple people
People like you are honestly the worst. Why do you hate facts and evidence so much?
>>
Olivia + Stragem or Prince of Darkness + Alexander?
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>>161430813
Clear all the tutorials, beat the elite AI's for their gold, log in for dailies. Read the deck guides for how those decks work then just build a good budget or free deck. It's not perfect with so many missing but thanks to evo points and effects it's still more than sufficient to get it done.

>>161431238
Do it anyway for Arena tickets and other goodies.

>>161431727
Just cope and enjoy the beautiful times where you're not a netdeck

>>161432210
Meme with Skullfane

>>161433154
How to counter bannermemes?
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>>161435476
They gave 10 packs to everyone
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>>161435742
I lose to like 1 out of 6 Elana decks, and I play every class except Elf and Haven.
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how do we nerf sword boys?
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>>161435818
wards
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>>161435802
satan is barely better than stratagem, take olivia
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>Lost 5 games in a row on top of demoting
I am dangerously close to just saying fuck it and blowing my dust to finish my Midrange Sword. I don't even have an interest in playing Swordcraft and managed to pull most of their shit by pure coincidence.

>>161435495
>Trying to draft gimmicks instead of just drafting for efficiency
That said Limited formats in general are fucking lame, I agree.

>>161436003
Sword is the most honest and fair class in the game and doesn't need nerfing.
t. Average /svg/ poster
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>>161435680
>Facts don't real only feels
Nobody even plays "pure" elana in tournaments anymore. It has a 47% winrate on ladder. If this shitty deck bothers you that much just play dshift or banner an you will win the vast majority of the time.
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>>161436003
hayai man no longer has storm
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>>161435742
>deck is super broken beyond belief
>yet has several "hard counters"

I don't think most whiners know what a real broken deck looks like.
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>>161435178
Elana is like laning against huskar in dota, it's an awful experience. Huskar was never broken though, while elana is a bit too strong too. Putting elana at 4-5 PP is very reasonable since you already have massive heal and board clear to stay alive with anyway. Put decree at 7-8 PP and it all starts to look more reasonable.
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It's another shadow plays 3 lord of the flies in a row and then andras every turn episode.
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>>161435648
Not as good against Turn 4 Weakness Man into Turn 5 Weakness Man. Fuck Haven!
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Can I get a concede?

11690
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>>161435562
They never have in deresute, but that might be Bamco's decision. No idea about GBF but I doubt it since in both of those games premium deals are usually things like being able to buy legendary equivalents for premium currency.
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>>161433248
What's the most underrated deck?

>>161433446
What's Urd good for then?

>>161433757
Lower rank is great though.

>>161436117
Every single, EVERY, single deck has complete faggoty bullshit. Welcome to card games, have better compelte faggoty bullshit. Post deck.
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>>161436072
you mean, JOSE
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>>161436162
Thanks Luna friend
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>>161436056
>Sword is so OP! Nerf sword!
>How is it OP?
>It just is, stop talking!
Is that all you can do you limpwristed numale?
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>>161436261
shitter pls go
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>>161435590
>melting polyphonic
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>>161436056
Demotion's great. Lets you bully baddies for ezwins for cheevos and dailies.

>Amulet removal is uncommon as fuck and when there is amulet removal it's a shit ass card that's hurting you any time you have it and it doesn't blow a key amulet out.
Not a fan of Forte, Leonidas, Mordecai, tyrant, elf faggots either that basically end you.
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>>161436261
Last word and storm minions, as well as debuffing minions who gain effects through passive or fanfare abilities.

Ex.s
Using urd on a fuckhuge ancient elf
Using urd on forte or a charge burd
Using urd on mordecai
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Every single one of you is a fucking shitter.
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>>161435495
T2 is fun. I grind packs everyday.
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>>161436003
Royal banner is +1/+1 and gives it every turn like wind god.
Otohime's guards have ward and storm
Floral Fencer's summons have storm.
Leonidas has ward.
Alexander is 6 mana and ambush.
Tsubaki cannot be affected by enemy spells or effects.
Arthurian Light now gives storm to all allied followers but no longer summons a knight.
>>
>intense ranked game
>draw the win card
>click the win card and play it
>my mouse moves left a little
>game plays the other card to the left instead
>I lose
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>>161436003
1/1 bodyguards guards.
Floral Fencer summons 2 1/2s.
Sage Commander is a 4/4
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>>161436512
You're hired
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>>161436104
Decree is fine and DotA2 sucks ass. The only nerf I can think of to Elana, if any at all (because I don't really see a reason for nerfing it) is to make it only raise attack instead of both attack and defense. Yes Elana can be annoying due to how sacky and snowbally it can be, but it also isn't terribly consistent and can be beaten pretty cleanly. If anything nerfing Elana directly is bad, just make amulet removal more reliable.

>>161436261
>>161436448
>Lower rank is great though.
I've actually been reconsidering whether or not I should keep trying to rank up once I found out how the system worked, but I can't in good consciousness sandbag just to collect points and I'd genuinely like to see if I can make it to Master, even if only to satisfy my own ego and bolster my fragile self-esteem.

>>161436342
I think Sword's ability to shit out 2-5 creatures per 1 card is the major reason why it's retarded.
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>>161436261
I just get sad when LotF summons angry wasp of great removals every single time they need it. I was playing Mid Sword <:^)
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>>161436412
After you post your deck

>>161435590
xpack's coming. Just live with budget decks. The shakeup is gonna give you a fat stack of 100% value liquify and the meta's gonna shake a lot of shit up. Much like Haven coming to life in DE
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>>161436543
git gud
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>>161436003
Having floral fencer in a deck now kicks you out of the game client if you try to queue.
>>
Need help with a concede for daily

48239
>>
>You were just sent a physical pack of Shadowverse cards. Inside the pack are 2 legendaries, 3 golds, 4 silvers, and 5 bronzes.

What cards do you hope you get?
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>>161436630
>The only nerf I can think of to Elana,
FUCKING
ARIA
YOU
IDIOT
>>
>>161436657
nice meme you cuck
>>
>>161436696
DingDong and Unica
nothing else matters
>>
>>161436696
quickblader
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>>161436696
Credit Cards.
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>>161436721
Aria is fine though
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>>161436630
>The class that's based around having a lot of followers has a lot of followers
Nigger you're a legit retard
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>>161436604
Ruthless Assassin banishes an enemy follower or amulet as fanfare.
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>>161436502
Ok.
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>>161436117
Be thankful Andras needs shadows to get his Storm effect.
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>>161436683
Thank you Luna-chan, you are the best!
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Why people bitch at sword when haven exist?
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>>161435495
Hearthstone has a better arena mode because it's all RNG bullshit anyways so losing doesn't feel infuriating. also pseudo-matchmaking.

T2 is also RNG but takes just enough skill so that it becomes rage-inducing when you lose.
>>
>enemy plays Otohime with Leonidas's Resolve on the field

YAMERO
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>>161436871
Because sword is a hell of a lot more broken
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>>161436875
>it's all RNG bullshit anyways so losing doesn't feel infuriating
>takes just enough skill so that it becomes rage-inducing when you lose
Its like you got everything backwards
>>
>>161436871
Because like half of this general plays Haven
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>>161435495
Cause T2 is a killing field for good players. They're just doubling their money all day long.

>>161436871
They're in the part of the ladder where shit swords top out so they get meme'd on all day by sword.
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>>161436871

Why people bitch at sword and haven when forest exists?
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>>161436871
Sword has a better winrate than Haven and has also been broken since the game was in beta.
Haven is bullshit right now of course but Sword is a bigger cancer overall.
>>
How bad is placing otohime in a banner deck? It's the only sword legendary I got.
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>>161436913
>Oponent uses Urd on Leonidas

This kills my hopes and dreams
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>>161437007
Forest has a skill floor

Haven plays itself and is still as good as everything but tempo forest
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>attack and click end buttom
>follower doesn't attack
I hate this.
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>>161436973
t.heavenfag
People don't really believe that right?
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>>161436721
The conversation was about Elana specifically. Anyone with a brain knows that Aria is the actual problem card in Haven though yes.

>>161436783
Yes, it's a fucking problem when the class can flood the board with followers at minimal risk while abusing the Evolution mechanic far more effectively than any other class.

>>161436871
Because Sword is a lot more fucking powerful and has the results to show for it, and I'm not talking about that garbage Banner shit either. Forestcraft is also a big problem.
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>>161437112
Post rank.
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>>161436871
Why bitch about either when Forest exists?
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>>161436871
>>161437007
Why people bitch at sword and haven and forest when Lord Atomy Shadow exist?
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>>161436543
Be sure to look at the card you see move and do NOT let go of it until you're sure it's the right one you want to play.
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>>161437112
people above C rank do
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>>161437152
Once again, you're a fucking B rank player. Stop pretending you know anything about game balance.
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>>161437051
It's better value than Alwidas but no storm.
If you get Themis'd and then drop Otohime it's super good.
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>>161437168
I beat a turn 2 Atomy with PtP Forest the other day. We live in a world where an 8/8 on turn 2 doesn't save Shadow.
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>>161437068
>opponent uses their Urd on my Leonidas
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>>161437051
There's not much point if you have 3 Awilda's. Avant Blader is better than Otohime in banner since you actually want to pull all those low cost followers from your deck.
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All the shitter talk is bait
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>Go first 5 ytimes in a row

fuck
>>
>sword has 60% winrate
>totally balanced
>>
What makes sword op? I can see what makes heaven op but not sword
>>
Just had a Tyrant Necro vs Satan Dragon match

That was really fun
>>
How much gold do you have for the new expansion?
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>>161437261
As an AA player, he's 100% right. Sword is a bigger problem than Haven and has the winrates to back it up. Midrange Sword has consistently been a top tier class in the game since the game was made and could honestly use some nerfs.
Swordcraft is also one of the biggest contirbutors to the skewed winrate going second has.
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>the opponent doesn't auto-lose if they have multiple turns with no activity

Fix this shit you nip cunts
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>>161436875
>RNG is better cause it doesn't take skill
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA is this what noobs tell themselves these days?
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>>161437586
>buying gold in a f2p game
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>>161437592
And as a Master player, you're both full of shit.
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>>161437518
t. Communist who believes literally everything should have a 50/50 winrate
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>>161437586
Just 2k gold and vial.
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>>161437586
If I count my dark tickets, 8 pulls total.
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>>161437625

>the opponent doesn't auto-lose

I think that's YOUR fault.
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>>161437586

Nice shoop

And only 1k. I fucked up.
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>>161437650
It's not possible to buy gold only crystals
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>>161437650
Only way to buy gold in this game is to buy arena tickets and run nonstop.
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>>161437586
Im not very good handling money
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>>161437261
When the majority of players here are retarded Hearthstone rejects who genuinely believe that Elana is a problem deck that needs culling, or that Sword is somehow weaker than Haven, then yes I DO know more about balance and game design than many here. I don't give a flying fuck what your rank is, be it D0 or Master. I want to have a discussion and if the best you can provide is "My epeen is bigger than yours" then you frankly aren't of any use to me or anyone here. Sword genuinely gives Forest a run for its money right now as the game's premier class and it shitting out so many creatures at low costs is why it favors going second so heavily since it depends on Evo points to fire off their dudes as removal.

>>161437168
Because Lord Atomy fucking sucks.
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>>161437565
They are way too efficient at what they do. Their minions give them insane amounts of value and they can easily recover from any board wipe thanks to shit like Otohime and Floral, and if they ever keep a board you get hit by Sage Commander, who is ridiculously overstatted for what he does. They also have a lot of storm cards for reach, the best wards in the game, broken removal cards like Tsubaki, and ridiculous card draw thanks to Avant Blader.
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>>161437658
as a Beginner 3 player I believe dragon is op cause they have big bodies that I can't kill
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>>161437586
500
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>>161437295
>Opponent petrifies my Leonidas
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>>161437707
He didn't win you mongoloid. I just don't like sitting around for 5 fucking turns waiting for his stupid turn end to kick in.
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>>161437565
They're really good at the dude game, that's about it, it's the class based around combat so yeah. Think white weenie if you ever played mtg.
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>>161437565

OP cards like

Aurelia
Otohime
Floral
Sage
Frontguard
Alwida
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>>161437765
Your opinion is worth less than dirt, dude. Just stop talking or go to Reddit. Why are you just expecting people to blindly agree with some shitter with no accomplishments on 4chan of all places?
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Can someone post a sword deck for a b shitter for easy rank? I refuse to play heaven
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>>161437586
Im doing pretty good.
>>
>picked spelltits in take two

well that was a misktake
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>>161437684
t. sword player
>>
>>161437972
Once again, he's actually right.
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/46/0/
Sword has the best winrate in the game overall and in each rank.
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>>161438064
t. Haven player asshurt his deck has counters that probably wishes he could play Seraph on his first turn
>>
I personally believe every deck should have a 40% winrate.
>>
Reminder
>Sure, if you count every fucking d rank retard who's never played a CCG in their life. Royal is more retard friendly, it will always do better below AA than Elf and Witch, even if the class became Vampire tier next expansion.

>Meanwhile, people are making up the same old tired excuses for Elf. Even back when it had fucking 55% win rate prior to Home Coming nerf, every fucking post complaining about Elf is "git gud" "learn match up" and every other none argument dismissive post you can think of. Royal has always been the scapegoat for Elf players, especially when the Home Coming nerf hit, and everyone went "it's all over Otomeme will dominate the game". Yet, here we are now, Elf is at the top still, but this time it's 2 Elf decks, not one.
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>>161437972
I don't expect you to agree, I expect you to actually use your words beyond "I'm right and you're wrong because reasons".
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>>161437625
>go up against a Storm Haven, Tempo Forest or Midrange Sword shitter
>know I'm going to lose
>just leave the computer with the game still running and go for a walk around the park

D E V I L I S H
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>>161437586
Nothing, I'm just gonna spend money on it when it finally comes out.
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>>161437972
well what exactly are your accomplishments, o wise one
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>>161438065
>rune is 4th most popular craft while having the lowest winrate for all crafts
someone please explain this to me
>>
>>161437586
0 because I still need tons of card from standard
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>>161438219
Sword is also the best winrate in Master, has a strong tournament showing, was arguably better than PtP pre-DE.
Nice try though.
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>>161437765
t. elanacuck
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AHHHHHHH, lost this game because I was playing about with my oppennent for 4 rounds when I didn't realize I have no more cards in my deck and drew the death card
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>>161437991
> I don't want to play a cancer deck, so give me a cancer deck list

Here is list for dailies
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Bullying elf is fun!
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>everyone here cry because they go first
>sword has 60 winrate going second

ummmmm
the numbers mason, what do they mean
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>>161438219
Oh, please believe that Forest is bull fucking shit, I'm just tired of people acting as if Sword is just a literally who class when it's on par with Elf in terms of performance right now. Yes Elf was stronger in the past before nerfs and the like but that's the past and I'm not really worried about that.
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>>161438516
Sword is stupidly designed.
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>>161438368
Easy to play and it feels good when you win with it.
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>>161438368
rune players shrug off losses and live to shit down nonaggro decks throats
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>>161438471
>the best winrate in Master
But that's Seraph Hybrid
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>>161438506
the ptp rune deck is insane. I don't know why more people aren't playing it
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>>161438480
Didn't your parents teach you not to play with your food ?
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>>161438220
Nah, that'd be a waste of effort on his part, because you're in this with your opinion firmly entrenched and nothing he says will shake that.
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>>161438516
Not enough people run removal besides Tsubaki or put in 4 drops besides Floral Fencer.
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>>161436913
>not removing the naked man's spaghetti too
>actually attacking the oiled man's chest
Pleb and gay.
>>
>>161438640
Nope, people were sick of its shit so Elana/Seraph actualy has a 49% winrate in Master now. Odins and DShfit abound.
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/46/4/
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>>161438731
>He topdecks Charlotte and wins anyway
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>>161438641
I'd imagine because it lacks the consistency and per-card value of PtP Elf. It's annoying as fuck to play against though, I agree. PtP is a dumb card in general.

>>161438714
I have no problem listening to others or even admitting that I'm wrong and learning, but not when the best rebuttal a person can provide is "My rank is higher than yours lol". Nevermind that he's never really provided proof of this being the case, nor is it even relevant in the first place.

>>161438473
Elana Haven fucking sucks. There's a reason why people started adopting hybrid or even full Seraph builds over just Elana.
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>>161438506
give dicklist
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>>161437991
This got me to AA0, have fun.
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>turn 3 Haven plays Elana
>banish it
>turn 4 Haven plays Elana
>Banish it
>he doesn't draw another
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If Dracomancer's Rites changed to "Whenever you discard a card from your hand, give all allied followers +1/+1." would it be as viable as Elana?
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>>161439080
No it would be even worse
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>>161438480
Hope you learned your lesson on BMs.
Finish games when you can, don't waste their time.
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>this is unranked

REMOVE ELF
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>>161439080
it would be broken
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>>161439123
Why is your hand empty?
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le rune counter of anti-spell
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>>161439080
They're both gold, 3PP amulets yet only one of them is meta and the other is utter trash.
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>>161438872
No happy ending for sword.
>>
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck-archetype/mid-range-dragoncraft
>Tournament Decks
I laughed.
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>>161438910
I'm using this in master. Beats forest and haven and loses to bat and DS
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>>161439178
because I'm playing a shitty earth rune deck to complete a quest
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>>161439067
Which card do you use to banish Elana?
>>
>>161437586
How'd you get so much?

>>161439123
>Rune
>Empty hand
What?
>>
When people say "post rank" what rank would actually be acceptable to you guys to prove the poster actually has an opinion worth hearing?
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>>161439214
Mainyu is one of those cards that isn't broken but I fucking despise
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>>161439396
AA3
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Siegfried leader for Dragoncraft when?
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>>161439396
Top 10 Masters.
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>>161439396
_3k+ score Master.
Anything else can be obtained by mindless grind and not actual skill.
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>>161439285
Bravo, gamepress.
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>>161439356
Petrification?
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>>161439396
master
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>>161439454
>Siegfried
>not Aiela
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>>161439370
Infinite arena,playing since the beta release getting the max gold of rewards.
Yes i am a sad man
>>
>>161439454
When you draw it and give it to them
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>>161439356
Petrify
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>>161438768
>silverbolt has 85% win rate
>people complain about decks with 55% win rate being OP
really makes you think
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>>161439535
Waifu fags should be banned
>>
There's absolutely no reason why Aggrobat and Bannersword should be tier 2 instead of tier3
>>
>>161437586
The temptation to just blow it all on packs is overwhelming even though I don't really need any cards
>>
When does the new expansion come out?
>>
>>161439605
I have a 100% win rate with ambush sword.
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>>161439676
End of December
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>>161439605
>100% winrate going first

And shitters say going 2nd is broken.
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>Rrruff! Rruff!
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Someone hit me up with an aggro shadow deck
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>>161439647

git gud
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>>161439605
>>161439704
It's also a sample size of seven.
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>>161439724
3 Cerb
3 Howl
34 literally anything
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>>161439293
this deck looks comfy
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>>161439716
>This kills the Forte
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>>161439689
Can confirm. Ambush Sword is OP
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How can you not love this?
It's like I'm really playing storm, but there's no force of will
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>>161439764
They're free wins for any actual t2 deck you know
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>>161439824
Dorks cannot handle a loyal doggo!
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>>161438368
Answer is obvious
>>
>>161439865
Banner beats all haven decks
>>
OKAY POST YOUR LEADER WISHLIST FOR ROB

>Cynthia
>Otohime or Favaro
>Merlin
>Siegfried
>Cerb/Charon
>Laura/Erinyes
>Jeanne
>>
>>161439454
>new dragon leader is Trinity Dragon
>You actually can't hit him with face and have to use spells to kill him
>>
>>161439958
Maybe if the haven player is retarded.
>>
>>161439958
Nope
If that were the case then noone will actually play Dshift
>>
>>161440000
stats show you are the retarded one
>>
>>161439967
Alexander or Leonidas
>>
>>161439647
And your opinion holds weight because?
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This deck giving absolute good results with one winrate of 77%(200 games) i'm doing pretty well against all the forest swarm and sword fags.
It's a lie
>>
>>161439865

T2 is aggro shadow, control sword, banner and bats. I'd say they are even.
>>
>>161440000
wasted quads
>>
>>161439843
Midrange/aggro plebs haven't grasped the beauty of combo yet
>>
>>161440052
Shut up and check his quads
>>
>>161439665
The meme is rack up rankup/cheevo, campaign, and daily gold. Then once you're good you just keep playing arena to break even or double your gold endlessly.
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>>161439958
control sword is preddy gud against haven storm and elana
>>
>>161439954
Snowmen are pretty cool, yeah, but doesn't explain why most runefags run d-shift without a single summon snow in sight.
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>>161440082
Needs Genesis Dragons.
>>
>>161440115

Forgot face dragon
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>>161439724
I run this thing for dailies, but it's a ancient list so yeah.
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>>161440159
Pretty much all sword decks beat most haven decks
Control can get btfo by Seraph if you dont get Odin
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>>161439972
>>
>>161440150
I do play arena every day.
It's not enough to satiate my lust for packs.
>>
>>161439227
I'M CUMMING 4U
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>>161440147
He doesnt deserve them
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>>161440159
>Going second
how do you win going first?
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This is shitty but I'm fine with maids that provides me with value day in and out.
Thank you maids.
>>
>>161440384
I'm cumming 4u, 4u, 4u, 4u, 4u.....
>>
can i get a concede pls?
12922
>>
>That fucking forest elite AI deck
I can't catch a break. Ancient elf, roach memes, rose queen under a heavy sauce of face
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>>161440430
But banner don't beat even himself.
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>>161439967
Bahamut
Medusa
Amaterasu
Jeanne
Odin
Elusa
Liza
Hamsa
>>
>>161440579
I run 2 olivias, in general haven is a pretty easy match up for me as I have a lot of stall and removal, the only time i tend to suffer is against PtP Elf and Dshift as my deck is too slow to kill them
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>>161440642
thanks birdman
>>
>>161439967
>Spoiler
Yes please.
>>
>>161440768
The game needs more maids
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holyyyy shiiiit heart of the cards.

Also
>3 luci
>>
>>161439967
Cali and Erinyes would be good. Also that spoiler is something that needs to happen before anything else.
>>
>>161439967
Rhinoroach would be 10/10 for forest.
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>>161441039
>>
>>161441059
>Cali
???
>>
>Quickblader now has a 50% chance of dodging all attacks
>>
>>161441039
>MOOOOM
>>
I just seraph'd this dude in take 2
GLORY FUCKING BE
literally shaking right now
only 1 hp left man what a rush
would have had 5 wins if it wasn't for banner aggro in the second match
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>>161440950
Much more. At first I thought that sword needs enough maids for maidsword to be a thing, but that's not good enough. Basically we need maidcraft to actually happen.
>>
>>161439967
I would genuinely cum buckets if Swordcraft got Alexander as a leader.
>>
Help with a concede.

30372
>>
Who the fuck runs Banner and Arthurian Light in ranked?
>>
>>161440660
>Even get a Velocious beettle for drain
>Still cna't stop the thorn burst memes
>>
>>161441385
it's almost like a polyphonic roar
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>>161441172
Cagliostro from Granblue. She's an old wizard that swapped to a loli body because lolis are best.
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>Swordcraft Legendary
>Thunder Lord Albert
>7 pp
>3/4
>Storm
>This follower can attack twice per turn.
>>
>>161441498
How did he acquire that body?
>>
>>161441361
thx m8
>>
>>161441498
>calling her Cali and not Cog
>>
>>161441431
I noticed that!
>>
>>161441498
>Rob expansion
Fuck off with your grannigger characters
>>
>>161441530
Evolves into 4/5, right? RIGHT?
>>
>>161441361
>Draw a zombie gravekeeper guy, the 6pp ward rider, the 3pp removal spell, and undying resentment
Ow.
>>
>>161441601
how about 10/10
>>
>>161441338
What would maidcraft's unique gimmick be?
>>
>>161441530
So you want a card that can evolve and swing for (likely) 10 all by itself on the turn it comes down? The fuck is wrong with you?
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>>161441537
He made it, he (female) invented alchemy in the Granblue universe
>>
Anyone up for private match quest ?

Need 1 win,match id : 15702
>>
>preview of updates get release
>0 2chan threads
g-guys?
>>
>>161441835
ded
>>
>>161441530
>what is hydra
>>
>>161441829

Thanks anon !
>>
>>161441835
Tbh senpai I'd rather doubt your ability to navigate 2ch correctly rather than doubt the overlords.
>>
>>161442018
Has no Storm
>>
>>161442018
Not in Swordcraft.
Doesn't have Storm.
>>
What are some other figures from history and mythology that you'd want to see become legendaries like Alexander, Odin and etc?
My personal picks are:
>Genghis Khan
>Archangel Michael
>Persephone
>Vlad the Impaler
>>
>>161442116
>>161442168
>sword really needs more broken cards
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>it's 4am
>I'm editing my decks
>tomorrow I'll be wondering where the fuck Zirnitra came from and where are my Emissaries.
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>>161442215

Rasputin might be cool

>never-dying sorcerer

of course, just so he doesn't steal from Mord's uniqueness he'd return to hand after death.
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>>161442215
All of those, but as cute girls.
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>>161442096
the past few threads have been nothing but complaining about the disconnect bug
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>haven fag topdecks all the answers he needs
>this is how the game ends
My fucking sides.
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>>161441263
N-nani?
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>>161442215
Cleopatra or maybe Anubis. I'd like to see something Egyptian.
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>>161442215
Oda nobunaga
5 drop for sword/amulet/commander
Give bane and rush to all the officers
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So i have been in this mulligan for 4 minutes. How long does players have ?????
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>>161442561
You got a free win, just ride it out
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>>161442215
Caligula
Elizabeth Bathory Yes I know she is in Fate/GO, and "Muh dick" is all I have to say to that.
Xerxes
Aleister Crowley
Metatron
Nergal
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>>161442561
He saw you got scared and pulled the plug
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>>161442451
A deck will topdeck all day long because it's well build. That is the path of a winner.
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>>161442674
>>161442605

Can he really just wait forever until i leave?
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which is better for climbing ramp dragon or control blood?
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>>161442932
There is a 60 second timer on mulligans.
He already disconnected. It just takes a bit to register, especially during the mulligan phase.
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>tfw you dont pull a banner and Serpah is counting down....
Fuck me this hurts.
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>>161442990
Probably ramp but choose aggro anyway.
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>>161442990
Ramp. A lot of players don't know what to do about it.
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>>161443025

But i cant leave before the game throws me out right?

It is still going... wat do
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>>161442990
Storm Haven
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>>161442990
Ramp Dragon. Control Blood still has bad matchups against other control decks and it's not that dominating over midrange or aggro. Dragon's high cost cards are still pretty strong and always will be.
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>>161441263
>>161442454
2 Drop Follower
Speed Slicer
2/1
Rush
Evade all sources of damage once

I want a H-Hayai deck so bad
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>>161443109
Keep waiting. It'll end eventually. Do something else while you wait
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>>161443109

catch up on other things, shitpost in thread

hell, I'll do this stuff during my opponent's turn in the middle of a game. I just have to be ready to tab back into shadowverse when I hear the turn end sound.
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>>161443202
>I want a H-Hayai deck
Isn't that just Banner?
>>
Midrange player here

Is banned meme really that fun?

I'm actually thinking of building it
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>>161443317
More Osee
Less knights
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>>161439454
Why do i keep seeing this pop up
do people like him that much?
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>>161443357
Don't bother unless you enjoy falling apart if you don't win in 6 turns.
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>>161443357

Think face hunter.

Where the only viable target is face. The only real decision making is whether your 2-drop will be 2 1/1s for increased banner damage or a 2/2 for resistance against barrage.
>>
When are they ending the the DE pack for TT thing so this game resumes being playable?
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>>161443357
It's pretty fun since it's fast and you get to put out 2 cost 5/3 storm followers. Early turns rely a lot on getting good draws though. You should be able to build it anyway since you probably already have 3 Awilda's.
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>>161443536
>play t2 all event
>still haven't pulled a pascale

I hope it never ends
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>>161443393
He's cool
Dragon needs a cool leader
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Does this game ever get hard? Granted, I'm top 50 legend right now in Hearthstone, but 15 win streaks are a bit absurd...
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@161443627
You're a bit too hungry for (You)s there laddy
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>>161443627

>B1
>Haven

Not at all
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>>161443627
Most decks around the cost range of haven decks can't really fight back against haven that well
>>
Did they just release a preview for the next expansion?
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>>161443357
Do you like to win fast?
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What's the point of this card
3/1 with no extra ability doesn't seem that great
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>>161443928
If you have a ward out it's a good 2 cost card
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>>161439967
Siegfried or Draogn Knight Aiela
Ceberus
Bloody Mary
Jeanne.
Tutorial chick whose name i don't remember
Alexander.
Old magician Levi.
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>>161443978
C'MON LET'S PLAY
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>can't win because faggots topdeck everything
Just put an end to this hell
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>>161443906
Do you favor Vanguard or Mentor's Teachings more?
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>>161443860
Next issue of Famitsu comes out tomorrow and has previews. The leak that's out now is supposedly from someone that got an early copy.
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>>161443906
pssh you call that fast?
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>>161443928
Combo it with a Commander unit/Banner and Curse General
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>>161444040
>tfw yktfw
>>
Shadowverse
More like Stormverse
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>>161444070
If choosing between those 2 it would be vanguard coz cards like elf child may and fire lizard are used often.
>>161444131
Let's get even faster.
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>>161443906
yes.
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Just got my first ever 5 wins in take 2.
Gabriel is so strong. Especially in dragon with stuff like hydra and aiela.
I used Gabriel every match and kept her on mulligan.
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>>161443986
I hope to never hear levi's nip voice again
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>>161444337
Congrats anon, your next goal is taker of 2. Godspeed.
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>>161444372
Levi's JP voice is one of the best in the game you fucking pleb.
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>>161444284
>not winning at mulligan

casual
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>>161444372
>Not liking Chafurin
I don't even play with Japanese voices because I don't really care enough but come on son.
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>>161443207
>>161443229

Seriously is there no form for ETA on this?

am i supposed to leave?

I have waited 30 minutes in mulligan now, am i expected to wait for 30 hours?
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>>161444475
IM JUST A MAGE, WHO IS OLD AS DIRT
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>>161444692
Just leave.
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I just fought aganist the weirdest haven deck ever:
>Forbidden Ritual
>Death Sentence
>Heretical Inquiry
>Sledgehammer Exorcist
>Surefire Bullet

I was laughing the whole match
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>>161444475
It isn't and you are a pleb for even suggesting that
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>>161443409
>>161443504
>>161443906
>>161443563
Welp

Fuck that I guess

Midrange is pretty simple but I'm not gonna play a brain dead deck

Unless I get really annoyed by all of the other decks in meta and want to feel good about myself by stomping them in the ground

In which case why not play storm haven?
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>>161444652
No, he's shit
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>>161444828
Banner/aggro is faster than storm haven.
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>>161444769
Be honest, and you lost. I'm fucking mad with those clown fuckers
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>>161444956
Faster at losing maybe
Storm Haven wins a ton more games at the cost of 1 or 2 more turns
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>>161444956
Yes but from looking at win rates storm is WAY more consistent than banner
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>>161444828
Banner is probably the best deck you can play against DS or Elana. If you want consistency then just stick to any of the T1 decks besides DS.
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>>161443627

>opponent use budget banner
>complain about stomping them when you use storm haven with a leggo

No shit sherlock
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>>161445005
I won, but I wouldnt have been mad if I had lost that one, it was just too funny
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PTP players in a nutshell
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>>161445407

banner still can get fucked by Elana though,if you couldn't draw banner and they keep pumping heal until they could start spamming themis.
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>>161445661

>2 olivia

Shit nigga what the fuck are you doing ?
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>>161445697
>good hand from Elana beats shitty hand from banner

You'll still win like 70% of the time. It's one of the easiest matchups. Once the banner is out the healing doesn't do shit nor does themis.
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>>161443986

SHE IS NEXUS. THAT IS HER NAME.
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>>161445795
winning apparantly
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>>161445795
That's Control Sword you ding dong. 2 Olivia is pretty standard there.
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>Plays a few games every morning before work
>If more wins > feel good the whole day .
>If more losses > feel salty the whole day.
>tfw a children card game has such a huge influence to your life .
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>>161445815
This. If they're wasting their turns trying to heal off the damage you're doing instead of committing to the board and trying to trade with your creatures or race you then Banner has an easy win.

The only card you have to be afraid of is Decree, and that's only if you don't have enough Storm damage in hand to finish it after the wipe.
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>SINNERS BE PURGED
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>need to win 1 match as runeshit
>have lost 6 in a row
The RNG in this is unbelievable
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>>161445815

Yes,that's what I said. The deck can beat elana but only if you get early banner,otherwise you get fucked like any other aggro.

And it's not even about good hand-bad hand. When a fast deck has to rely on 3 amulets you can't search for then there's a problem.
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>>161445890
Its an easy win IF the right shit comes out. Not having Banner at T4 blows in general. Its an uphill battle if its not there.
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just got this, should i?
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>>161446026
Senran Kagura collab when?
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>>161446036
Can't believe so many people complain about rune when its only competitive deck is in such a bad spot
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>>161446102
>liquefying Odin
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>>161446102
I wouldn't.
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>>161446102
Yeah
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>>161446150
animated even...
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>>161446102
do it
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>>161446047
>can't search for

Anon.
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>>161446102
Hell no
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>>161446047
Maid Leader searches for banner. There's chances to get it from the 4-5 draws you get until turn 4 or Mentor's Teaching too. Getting what you want with this deck is easier than other Royal decks honestly.
>>
Can someone post an Animated Siegfried?
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>>161445847

Really ? I'm curious,how did it proceed from there ?

>>161445865

2 olivia mean a lot of inconsistency,especially if you draw her early you might as well say gg.
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>>161446312
when youre at 0 cards you auto lose which is what that ptp player did
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>>161446280

If you play maid then you're basically giving elana a breathing space. To win against elana you need to squeeze in those storm damage as much as possible in the first 4 turns.

Not to mention most banner run additional commander like avast blader to help with their shitty consistency,so that decrease the chance of getting banner off maid.
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Most of you guys are in A rank or above. I need help with my current deck.
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.63FiQ.63FiQ.63E_G.63E_G.63E_G.5_QqY.5_QqY.5_QqY.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.5_Qqi.5_Qqi.5_RZQ.5_RZQ.6737K.6737K.6737K.63Kb4.63Kb4.673s2.673s2.5_TGo.5_TGo.5_TGo.63Kaw.63Kaw.63MII.63MII.63MII.63KbE.63KbE.63KbE.67ARI.67ARI.65GMy.65GMo.65GMo.67ARI.63Jsg

This deck has served me well climbing, but once I reached A rank, I find it losing a lot of steam compared to before.

Shadow players of A rank and above, what am I doing wrong or how can I improve it, even if a little? Some insight on playstyle would help greatly too.
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>It's a t2 run where you go first every time
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>>161446280
Does that mean a bannermeme deck should never have avant blader? I have her for value since I don't know what to put besides her.
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>yfw your calamitous curse banishes not one, not two, but THREE Mordecais.

poor luna
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>>161446386

Didn't notice his card number,yeah that's one sad scenario. Had that happened to me when I play discard dragon and I was literally on a ball with 9 cards on hand every turn until I decked out at turn 7-8.
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>>161446549
What else are you going to play on turn 2? They aren't going to heal on turn 2 anyway because they'll save those rabbits for when Elana is out. Even with 3 Avant Bladers it's a 50/50 chance of getting banner with Maid Leader. The deck is really consistent at what it does and you would know if you ever played it.
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>>161446619
Banner should still run avant blader IMO, its such a good reload card that its worth it. Its a decent turn 5 minion with evolve as well if you pull it instead. I would recommend you only run 2 though so you still are going to draw one of 3 banners the majority of the time.
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>>161446605
>what am I doing wrong

Playing shadow in A rank

>how can I improve it

Stop playing shadow in A rank
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>>161446605

pretty standard.

you're just facing against better players with bigger collections
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Despite A3 being pretty comfy to grind, the sheer amount of games needed to get out of here is getting out of hand.
At least I'm close to the last leg. Gonna try to get to AA tomorrow if I get a good night's sleep.
Hope you all have nice packs and topdecks, g'night and remember to play Forestcraft.
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>>161446312
Look anon. I've played a lot of control sword running 2 Olivia and I've had 0 consistency issues. One extra late game card in a deck based around surviving until the late game is not gonna do much, and being able to more consistently draw Olivia is far more important than having a double chance to draw her early.
Please don't talk about decks you've clearly never played.
>>
BLOCK MY WAY ILL CUT YOU DOWN
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>>161446605
Don't run control shadow
Control shadow is bad
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>>161446605
>Shadow players of A rank and above, what am I doing wrong
Playing a sub-par deck when the meta actually starts to matter?
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>Decide to finish Banner shit just to change the pace a bit and play something different for a change
>Shit isn't fun at all
>Also this happens
Note to self, Angelic Barrage is my friend.
He ended up killing himself with Bloodfed Flowerbed.
>>
what cards should I run 3 of, 2 of and 1 of?
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>>161446780
>avant blader
i agree with this. You run out of cards quickly, Avant helps with this. Cant leave all those matches up to the heart of the cards.
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>>161446605
Spectre sucks. Put in something else.
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>tfw i sometimes find myself picking Luna just to hear her: "Yadaaa! Kataa kataa!"

it makes grin with such a stupid smile, same smile i would undoubtedly give to my daughter if i had one ;_;
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>>161446605
Don't listen to the shitters
Aggro shadow is in a better position than Aggrobat and Bannersword and those can get you to AA easy
>>
>>161447112
Yeah, and that deck isn't fucking aggro shadow
>>
>beat havenshitters
>lose to shadowcraft
>>
i played my first take two game and the guy had dark angel olivia
how do i counter that?
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>>161447180
die
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>>161447092
yata with a t
yada is what she'd shout out during forceful penetration
>>
>Elana is 3 PP
>Rousing Step is 5 PP
???
Imagine if Sword got a 3 PP amulet that buffed all followers on the field every time you played a commander.
>>
>>161446150
>>161446249
is there any deck in particular that uses it?
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>>161447176
>fighting the same netdecks over and over
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>>161447230

o-ohh
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>>161438246
your smugness has inspired me, gonna do this every time i lose to a sword/haven cuck from now on
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>>161447264
Every slow deck that doesn't want to be memed by seraph
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>>161447264
a lot of control decks do, its basically the only way of dealing with seraph haven
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>>161447235

haven doesn't spam tokens, but yeah, rousing step is overpriced at 4 mana.
>>
>>161446771

>What else are you going to play on turn 2?

quickblader,lancer,mentor's teaching,that one gloomy dude who summon another gloomy dude

>They aren't going to heal on turn 2

They would,if they don't have elana on hand. Also they can either go AWWW YEAH or in worst case scenario for banner,snake priestess.

>Even with 3 Avant Bladers it's a 50/50 chance of getting banner with Maid Leader.

Meaning there's a good 50% chance at not fishing out banner and you get fucked because you wasted a turn on maid,that's not what I would call consistency.

>The deck is really consistent at what it does and you would know if you ever played it.

Nigga at this point everyone who's at A rank and above probably play this deck like a million times over. It's one of the easiest deck to assemble and pilot,fast and furious and burn out as quick as they come in. There's a reason they got stomped by everyone on official tourney.
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Post a good control rune deck
Spell is too RNG for me I have really bad luck
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>9/11
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>>161446605
im playing this at masters with alot of succes
>>
> play dirt rune

> a non-negligible amount of wins come from control players who concede thinking I'm d-shift.
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>>161447462
earth rite

with ptp
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>>161446780
>>161446619
I see, I have 3 banners and 2 bladers, but most of the time I get a blader and it slows down my game which can screw me over, so I thought maybe I was the only one running her.

>>161447021
Yeah, you kinda need 2 barrages, especially for mirror matches and against brutal fairy spam
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>>161447235
Sword has a much stronger stream of followers that doesn't make them lose in tempo like haven's amulets usually does.
I don't know why people cry about Elana so much, maybe everyone here is a Shadow main.
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>Tfw when you curve hard as fuck
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>>161444096
>The leak that's out now
huh?
>>
>>161447628
>tfw got nothing I could use until turn 6
Literally don't know how that's possible, I got every single high level card I had in my deck
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>>161447349

>play against face dragon
>anticipate his odin
>drop 2 seraph,turns out he really has odin but only 1
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>>161447628
>when you get vanguard/fervid/fencer/floral

My dick was so fucking hard that day.
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>>161438368
Feels good man
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THE GLORY THAT IS FAFNIR!
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>>161447180
Play your own.
You did remember to draft her, right?
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>fort bombs for exact lethal
>tfw
Not pictured, Double Vampy proc
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>>161443627
>B1 storm haven
How can a top 50 legend be stupid enough to need to ask that?
>>
>>161438368

Rune shits on elana and seraph or any control deck in general,while they die horribly to any half decent aggro.
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>>161447756
>face dragon
>odin

what rank is this?
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>>161447235
>Rousing step is 4pp
>Sage Commander gives the effect for free with only one stat loss
Rousing Step v Elana isn't even a good comparison in the first place, they're different beasts entirely.
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>tfw no elfs or roaches
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>>161447763
>build vengeance meme deck
>go
>cursebrand
>snake charmer
>succubus
>soul dealer
>dark general+diabolic drain
>demonic thrall

And not a single dimension was shifted that day.
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>>161447970
Roach wouldn't do shit without spells with that board state anyway.
Also
>3 evo points as banner on turn 7
Nice rank C.
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S K U L L F A M

This is the second one I've pulled.
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WIND!
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>>161446857

I'm not going to dissuade you not to go with your shitty meme build,it's just that it's always too funny whenever I see these shitters who expect the game to go on turn 10+ and then rage when DS,garuda,or seraph end them in turn 8-9.
>>
Need help
27377
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>>161447628
>floral fencer going first
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>>161447869
Being Seraph they probably never played any tangible threat and got their face punched in by ramped value and overcharge storm.
>>
>>161448138
OBEY MY COMMAND
>>
Cygame need to slowdown the game pace abit (the main culprits are d-shift and seraph). As of now most good 8+ costs never or rarely get to see play duo to being too slow (Leonidas, Satan, big body dragons, Silver Bolt,....)
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>>161438368
It's a match up hunter. The deck exists to render anything slow unplayable. If you control for skill level (AA3, masters, and tournament) the winrate isn't even remotely that low. It will never not be viable as long as slower decks exist, which is why it should never be allowed to do well against aggro, since it already autowins its favored match ups.

D.Shift style decks is literally the reason why real TCGs have sideboard. Automatically losing, because you queued into it isn't exactly good game design.
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>look forward to opening a pack
>get shit i already got

ugh
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Is there anything worse than fighting aggro bats as DShift

Literally game over by turn 5
Out -of-hand face damage through Vania and Imp Lancer is brutal
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This deck is boring as fuck.

>>161448172
BUT IT LET ME PLAY ROYAL BANNER ON CURVE.
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>>161447869

A0 or 1,can't remember. It was when the seraph hate were at breaking point due to them taking every first spot on japan's tournament I think.
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>climbing ladder, making viable decks along the way
>aggro dragon, dshift, face blood
>want to do something fun like ramp dragon or control blood
>theyre not good for climbing and too expensive

next expansion can't come sooner
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>>161448356
>I can dish it, but can't take it
Maybe you should stop playing that polarized piece of shit? I'd rather be the D.Shift against aggro, and lose on turn 5, than be the control, and spend 8 turns helplessly watching you take 3 minute long turns, even though you literally can't lose the match up.
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WHENS THE EXPANSION UPDATE
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>>161448445
Those decks aren't going to get cheaper with the new expansion. Ramp Dragon isn't that bad now either.
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>>161448356
>tfw switched to PTP Rune with 3 Veteran Alchemists

Vampy conceded after I bounced my second Scrap Iron Smelter for the third time and then healed.
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>>161448172
What's wrong? He got a 123 draw, the floral was a first card draw.
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>>161447729
>having more than 3 high cost cards in your deck
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>>161448114
>Just won and opened another pack
What the fuck?
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>>161447493
What is the reason for bone chimera? On the surface, it doesnt seem like an impactful card.
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>>161448532
do you have a viable ramp dragon deck list? most of the ones i see online are out of date.
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>>161448234

Most seraphs nowadays run elana,so they really don't give a fuck if you odin their statue,it will just make the game a bit longer until they get 2nd statue or overbuff their minions.
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Do you guys join ranked and concede immediately to get your rank to stay down?
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>>161448532
Ramp dragon is garbage
It does not have any of the broken bullshit that the actual t1 decks have
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>>161443928
It's for killing 1/3's, trading for value against 3-5pp's with 3 defense and hitting face under wards

>>161444040
When your deck isn't shit it's you topdecking them to death.

>>161447970
>tfw every time they do have it.
You deserve to suffer

>>161448114
>>161448704
It's a sign! Make Skullfane great again! I believe in you /svg/
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>>161448658
yeah really makes you think.
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>>161448159
I love this meme. This should be added to the shitter list.
Also just so you know Control Sword is favored against Storm Haven.
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>>161448776
>>
>brand new
>like rune and blood
>no idea what I'm doing
>look at gamepress
>exactly 1 budget rune deck and still more vials than I can afford
Really don't wanna mulch my a.elf, atomy, or lucifer so how do I get a reasonable number of vials?
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>>161448850
Have you tried playing the game?
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>>161448850
What kind of rune deck are you trying to build?
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>>161447493
is a good target for soul conversion
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>>161448730
Just look on twitter if you want something recent. It's pretty much the same as old ramp Dragon except with Siegfried's, Mushu's, Neptune's, and Olivia's.
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Does anyone ever use Dragonbond Mage?
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>>161448159
"meme build"

you do realise control sword shits on haven in general right?

yes it gets fucked by dshift but most decks have bad match ups
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What's with all the oppression Olympics in these threads? Shadow, Dragon, and Rune players always trying to make it seem they're the underdog, when 2 of them were literally tier 1 just last meta, and one still is tier 1 and a tournament staple. Blood has been, and still is, the worst class in the game for well over half a year now. The mere fact that Shadow and Dragon at their worst, are as good as Blood now, who's in a much better position than last meta, speaks for itself, yet Lunaposters won't stop with their bullshit "woe is me, tier 1 Shadow when" bullshit. The anti Haven bullshit pushed by them is also getting really annoying. Seems to me they just want a return to the status quo of 5% Blood and Haven on ladder, and their bullshit aggro and ramp deck dominating at tier 1 again.
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>>161448752
yes. But I only concede enough to win 1-2 more games without hitting trials..
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>>161448850
Atomy is shit. Elf is pretty good and Lucifer is used in some decks. You can vial Atomy no regrets unless you want to meme.
Also, try looking up aggro blood, it's bloody cheap :^) and very effective.
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>>161448850
Don't buy into the mulch memes. You don't need an exact list to excel. Neutrals and class Silver and golds will win you packs for a long, long time.
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Today's 5-0 in T2 was unusual. Had 2 Shadows and 3 Havens. Used Olivia bullshit once and even then it was in a win more situation.

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/4?hash=2.4.65BUS.66giC.66giC.66giC.66giW.66jtU.66jtU.62sZM.62u_I.62v0O.65BUc.5_2QM.5_4sI.66hRE.66hRE.5zWmg.659nE.5_2QC.66giq.66giq.5_2QW.5_2QW.66gig.5_4sS.5_4sS.62v0E.66laY.65GMo.62xSA.62xRi
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>>161448706
>>161448948
ooops
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>>161447493
What are the deathchasers for?
It doesn't look like you need a lot of necromancy
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>>161448976
Yeah. If I can keep it alive for a turn I rock the board and kill their hand

>>161449032
>Implying
Atomemes rocked the last tournament.
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>>161449102
Ah, that makes a lot of sense
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>>161449054
And finally hit pay dirt. Too bad it was during the promotion although I guess I could have waited before claiming?
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>>161448758
It's a cool card but let's be real this is 2000 vials right here.
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how meme am i?
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>join a match
>opponent immediately retires
Thanks for the win sandbag faggot.
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>>161449148
>tournament
>ladder
>the same thing
>>
i saw a shadow player in his promotions to A0 so i conceded when i was one attack away from winning 20-0. did i do the right thing?
>>
>>161449148
Tournaments and playing on the ladder will never ever be the same thing. In a tournament you have a general idea of what exactly you can expect, and there's a general level of competency. On ladder you can go from netdeck Elana Seraph matches to suddenly nothing but meme decks.
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It feels like when you win with dragon, you win big.
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>>161449264
No, you're a faggot.
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>>161449264
yes
>>
>>161449264
No
Now he's gonna be stuck in A0 with a shadow deck
>>
>>161449323
damn
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>>161449310
>f2p vs p2w advantage
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this fucking game was too long.
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>>161449310
dick list?
>>
>>161449208
Don't give in. Become the meme that revives him. Plus what if they change him in the xpak and you can get full value on dust huh? What then? Spend the month making haven great again.
>>
Any websites keep track of take 2 statisics?
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Will earth rune still be viable come the expansion?
>>
>midrange sword running odin as soon as I put down leonidas

well fuck that wasn't what I planned
>>
>>161449210
N-Nobody uses it I swear!/10

>>161449386
>2 cards left
Oh man, how even?
>>
>>161448987
He's still a shitter, he probably hasn't even seen a Control Sword yet.
>>
>>161449505
he stalled with evolved goblinmount demon.
>>
>>161449481

how are we supposed to answer that you dork
>>
>>161449575
Everyone knows that Cygames employees secretly lurk in /svg/
>>
>forest pussy-bot is losing
>he tries to rush PtP
They either concede after 50s of ***thinking*** or stay there for the whole round limit. Everytime, literally the braindead players.
>>
>>161449481
No
The new hotness will be EarthShiftPtP
>>
>>161449481
If you aren't above 55% winrate you're fine
>>
I'm having a lot of fun playing vanilla haven with no bullshit
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>>161449392
here it is as is so far. Working on the last Forte, which will replace the Seabrand.

I am by no means an expert at dragon deck making, so I would probably find a better list. I am just memeing around and posting a favorable outcome.

I cannot decide my end drop comp, I think I need another Genesis dragon, or maybe another fafnir instead of zirnitra
>>
>>161449681
So what's the gameplan for the deck there?

How is it supposed to actually win?
>>
>>161449665
How's vanilla haven work? I've been steeped in meme's too long
>>
>>161449208
>>161449421
Skullfane finishing Seraph chain is the best meme since he has a longer animation wind up.

>The end has come. Now get out.

Probably will be cool new amulets for him to break in the expansion too since the one Haven card reveal was another countdown reducer bronze card that's probably more effective than him.
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>>161449634
shortened wait timers when?
>>
>>161447493
>>161449145
Pls respond
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n-new dork thread when?
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>>161449814
Looks like he uses defensive and effect cards to trade through the earlygame. Dragon warrior Mushussu and siegfried trades to suck their evo and removal. Then depending on draws he runs over them with forte ad seabrand, reloads with olivia, or just combos his high and lows to get as close to 10pp out a turn as he can until they keel over. All that ability to overturn the momentum seems good.
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>Want to craft a second Aurelia/Tsubaki
>Expansion is near
What do?
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>>161449864
I hope so. Runes players can extend their round wait time
>>
So how much does animated homecoming vial for?
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>>161449978
Why is the Forte a Dork?
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>4-0 as rune in t2 after multiple buttclenching games
>get into 5th game, against shadow
>Let this be our final bat-
>opponent has left the game

i feel empty inside
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>>161450023
So it dies painfully to any deck with healing and stalls out with no card draw against all control decks?
Because that is what is going to happen
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>>161449814
Big dudes and storm. Ramp up, Overload control decks and outmuscle midrange. All you gotta do is live through the first few turns and then you start slamming them. They usually cant keep up.

But as I think you are hinting at, its kind of in a weird spot between ramp and storm dragon. Works for me so far, though, though its just my daily deck.
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>>161450080

You hold tight, patience will be rewarded
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>>161450023
You explained it way better than I did. Thanks!
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>>161450145

Most dragon decks dont deal well with Haven
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>>161450145
Pretty much if he doesn't get an ivory or oracle later to play with his 7-9's
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>>161450154
You have no card draw to fight control decks.
You can out trade midrange decks but they don't exist anymore because of elana.
The curve is awkward past turn 4 and if you smooth it by dropping multiple weenies you run out of cards.
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After going against 10 million elana matches it finally worked against a dumb bat player who didnt see it coming.

Pic related, it was a 16 damage kick in the face on turn 4.
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>>161450387
Dragon doesn't have a lot of draw so he's kind of in a bind.
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>>161450421
What am I looking at?
>>
What deck has the best drawpower?
>>
>>161450421
Finally a part-time dragon discard nigga like me
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>>161450563
Forest.
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>>161450563
Probably Rune. Fates hand is disgusting.
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>>161450563
spellboost runecraft or ptp
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>>161449145
>>161449949

there are 14 necromancy cards it helps alot with necro gen, also is pretty good 3 drop, i really dont like skelly knight and rabbit necro because they die so easy to forest and sword
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>>161450563
Runeshift has enough draw power to trigger people while they draw cards
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>>161443393
Evolved form looks cool as fuck, especially animated, has a based effect that punishes going 2nd 4 turn evolves, and has a good voice actor in JP
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>>161450549
An angel crusher deck that accidentally a bat player with consecutive altered fates. The altered fates did 12 damage and the evo to the face did 4
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>>161450563
Rune > Sword > forest > haven > blood > shadow > dragon

Wow, what a coincidence.
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>>161450736
really makes you think
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>>161450736
>both ends have the worst winrates
wOw
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>>161444131
>turn 4
>dead and 3 hp

That doesn't even look fun
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Holy shit this was an ordeal. Getting that Banner took too long. I made him blow two Themis back to back though.

>>161450889
>>161450889
>>161450889
New
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>>161450850
only rune
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>>161450895
What we can call Blood vs Blood battles?
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>>161451012

bloodbath
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>>161451243
>cant get more than 1 win
how do you people do it
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>>161451243
Forest is one of the most expensive decks in the game, you need 3 Ancient Elves and 2 Tias to make anything in that class work. Try banner sword or storm haven first, they're both fairly cheap
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