/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

By dick or by pick, let us dominate the world.

Man this general is dying apparently. But the next update will probably save it.

Damn adventure mode is tight.
Why would I build anything though.

>>161211014
To live innawoods.

>>161211049
But why live innawoods if I can't slay demons and be a cool nigger

>>161210851
We're all dying.

Scamps included.

>>161211185
Why do the two preclude each other?
They don't.

>>161210851
.42 didn't help any. If anything we got slower.

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Sorry I was away from the holidays.
161144016
I will do something.

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>>161211854
>that bebopping goblin
You know, Skipbop almost sounds like a goblin name.

>>161211854
That's a very nice suit.

>>161202165
There's a tiny indicator in the top right corner of the screen showing the current phase of the moon. Werecreatures transform when it's full.
Those dwarves are going to survive forever in that closet, by the way. The transformation resets their bodies, which includes their hunger counters.

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>>161217545
He should build a lever room there and fully mechanize his fort. That's some goddamn luck to have a room full of tireless, sleepless, immortal lever operators

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Got this the other day and thought it's kinda funny, so I'll post it.

faggot killed 6-7 of my guys, turned back into a human and fled before I had any chance to send someone to deal with him.

>>161218270
>>161218270
they can still go mad from the boredom

>>161219075
is that iron AND kaolinite on the same embark? damn...

>>161219131
eh, build them a couple of statues then

>>161217545
I remember a similar thing happened to me, except only one of the weredwarves survived. I locked her in a hole with a bunch of gates attached to levers, which connected to rooms with furniture. Whenever I noticed it was getting close to that time of the month, I would burrow her in the empty room and seal it. When she was normal she had a whole minifort to herself, with a bed, chest (with clothes), a workshop, a weapons rack and a small shrine to pray at.

Even with all this, she was unhappy. Separated from her children and family, living in complete isolation. I let her out one day, undid all her labours and let her roam the fortress, chatting with people, seeing what they had built while she was confined. She even watched her children play, and breathed the outside air before I burrowed her inside again.

Later, the whole fort died to a forgotten beast. I had the last survivors open her up and give her freedom. She stayed in her cell, and the rest of the dwarves died. Finally while the beast was rampaging close by, she happened to transform and rush out. I expected her to die, but I guess it had been weakened, because she managed to kill.

I cant even imagine the feeling of regaining consciousness, fb blood covering you, naked, and everyone you've ever known, and all the freedom you've never had, destroyed.

I abandoned that fortress and only played adventure mode for a while, but I never found her.

Wherever she is, I hope she found peace.

>>161219185
Not only that, but the first cavern is full of marble and gold.

Also full of troglodytes, and now I got like a shitload of them caged.

How do I use them for Dwarf purposes?

>>161219324
Pit battles

>>161219324
Training dolls. Equip your dorfs with nothing but robes and training weapons, chain the trogos and attack them

>>161218270
Won't work with werecreatures. They can topple buildings.

>>161210851
relax
We've been dying for so long that we are inmortals

>>161210372
Great summary of the last thread

>>161210851
Toady is a lazy incompetent shit. He will take two years to update the game again.

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I'll post bote until toady adds botes and we can have real fishing in the game

post forts

>>161222617
I'd be fine with that, if Toady updated his dev log a bit more often. I miss when the reports were daily.

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>>161222690

whats the best way to learn new facts about animals?

>>161220119
Why robes? If they're wearing armor, won't they get armor user training as well?

>>161224358
because followers of the path don't wear armor. They fight naked .

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>>161224798
w-which path? I'm new to dorf fort

>>161222617
fuck off with your memes. we'll have it by the end of the year

>>161223304
so glad you followed this draw request Drew
bretty lewd

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>>161225602
>he doesn't know about the path
I hope you may one day embrace combat as you now embrace traps and bridges.

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why

>>161226136
Tell me about the -(*path*)-, sempai

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>mfw reading through the dev goals for the magic arc

>>161223498
playing with/killing and disecting them

just train

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so, my ranger went missing for a week. after a bit of searching i found his corpse up in a tree alongside a giant one humped camel skeleton

wad the fug

>>161228025
Something spooked him and he climbed up a tree. The spookiness subsided, and in his unspooked state, he was unable to path back down.

>>161228025
Toady's coding skills and pathing logic at work. Toady should be gassed

>goblin's in range
>don't attack
>ever

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>>161230673
how big is your population? in vanilla, they won't even consider you as a target until you have 80 dorfs.

even after reaching 80 dorfs, you may have to wait a year or two, but they should come. the bug that delayed sieges in 0.40 has been fixed for almost a year now.

>>161231758
>There's people who don't drop sieges to 20 dwarves

>>161231992
Well, ever since joint damage was introduced, I have found sieges to be MUCH harder. The old combat system, where deflected shots or bruises didn't cause any damage, favoured the lone legendary militiadorf. The new system with joint damage, however, makes it easier for one of the many attacking gobbos to incapacitate your legendary soldiers with lucky hits.

>>161231992
How do I do that?

Too early bump for bump bump.

Is there magic in this game yet?

>>161233718
nope
Only necromancers and rng curses when toppling statues on temples

>>161233718
Well, a bit. There are the secrets of life and death you can learn.
More coming "soon". The release underway will make artifacts a bit more interesting, and the big one after that will introduce a procedural creation myth generator which will add some magical stuff I think.

>>161232832
Edit the gob civ in the raws

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can't bump the plump

>captcha: NOBLE HA

>>161231992
>20
>not 7
>not raising invader cap to 500

>>161238430
20 is the lowest

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>>161236458
>frownanon
How did you know?

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I started the game after a bit of a break, but it seems to have deleted or my saves r something
Any clue why this happened and how to get them back?

>>161241374
my interpretation is that that's two guys fighting over which one gets to pull the lever

>>161241230
2ez
post more

>>161241374
>>161243241
nonsense, they're praising the baldpillar of eagles

I've installed fedora 25 on my laptop and it runs great.
I installed dwarf fortress, but the text is really small (got a 3200*1800 screen). I can not zoom in any further. What's a good tileset to use for high dpi?
How do I disable aquifers on world creation?
How do I disable the intro video?
How do I enable seasonal save?
How do I install therapist or DFHack?

>>161243241
>>161244940
Looks to me like the priest of one deity is attempting to prevent the toppling of a statue by the priest of a different deity. The bone scepter and the bird-foot staff look like ceremonial paraphernalia.

>>161245442
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Tileset_repository#64.C3.9764

You don't, you have to edit the raws.

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Technical_tricks#Settings_-_init.txt

dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Technical_tricks#Settings_-_init.txt

They're both as easy to install as DF. Just unzip a folder and run the binary. DFHack require further configuration depending on what you want it to do. The rapist isn't updated to the latest version, and DFHack is still in alpha, but probably works fine. I don't know if the dfhack alpha is for available linux or not. Find it on github and see for yourself.

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>>161211854
> tfw no big-tit punk gf

>>161247593
Aren't you happily married?

>>161247593
>>161211854
Except that slap animal woman and this punk girl, I thought Timbuk only drew males
If you read this, please draw something lewd please

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>>161247764
> all the girls you meet are married
> or already have a boyfriend
> or are 10 years outside your age

also image related, basically except i don't buy useless cash-grab books

>>161248070
Am I the only one who bought "Getting Started With Dwarf Fortress" back when it was published? I thought it was fun at the time, but now I'm starting to feel like an idiot.

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>>161248307
You bought it when it was published and you're only just now starting to feel like an idiot?

>>161248843
savage

>>161248843
I did it for the same reason that some people on /lit/ bought that Tundra book a few years back. It's a certain appeal to own a physical meme.

>>161248843
did you mess around in world gen, or is this a bug? nevertheless you should do some terraforming, could be a cool fortress if done some work.

>>161249086
doesn't it have some cool illustrations? that might make up for some of the retardation that is a physical guide book on a decades from done game.

>>161249676
>doesn't it have some cool illustrations
It has. I'm not sure whether they're exclusive for that book, though.

>>161249485
Both. I'm not on that embark, just a bizarre place I found last year while site hunting and kept a screenshot for posterity.
Also, terraforming doesn't mean what you intend it to mean in that sentence.

>one of my already legendary dwarves makes an artifact
>artifact is based on another dwarf in the fort whom he has no relation with what-so-ever, nor has ever met him

TOADY!

>>161251332
divine inspiration follows no law

>7 starting dwarves
>third month
>my miner becomes a queen
fuck

>>161251332
the dwarf is probably pregnant too

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>>161251660
>manual labourers suddenly start claiming to be kangz n shiet and refuse to work
really makes you think

>>161251660
She'll still mine.

>>161252359
>>161252814
I had to make her a palace made of gold and platinum which skyrocketed my wealth. And I'm playing a fortress defense mod

>>161253371
Just gotta make the rooms huge, she'll also serve in the military.

>>161245442
>How do I disable aquifers on world creation?

Embark on aquifer, you coward! What are you afraid of?

>>161245865
I've got the game installed but editing the init.txt (/usr/share/dwarffortress/data/init/init.txt) file does not actually change anything.

I installed it using:

$ sudo wget -P /etc/yum.repos.d/ https://www.acm.jhu.edu/~bjr/fedora/dwarffortress/dwarffortress.repo
$ sudo dnf install dwarffortress

>>161256318
>What are you afraid of?
an actual challenge

>>161251332
>whom he has no relation with what-so-ever, nor has ever met him

He might be an admirer. It's possible to admire someone from afar.

>>161256318
literally not being able to dig _anywhere_

>>161256658
>not using a rocket made out of earth to strike the earth through the water

It was inevitable.

>>161257003
What is this magic you speak of.

>>161245865
sorry to bother you, I figured out what went wrong.

>you will never be a dwarven king
>you will never have a huge, warm room behind the lava forges
>you will never be fed to a forgotten beast because you wanted a nickel bed

why live

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>>161257003
>not just embarking on a mountain, where all of the interesting ores and minerals are in the first place

>>161228025
The (((Elves))) are to blame for this. You should genocide them. Again.

>>161257601
lol haha

epik meme. i really like this meme haha lol

>>161257435
Believe it or not, some people simply dig a hole and build their fortress there, as if they're some sort of hobbit.

>>161211854
For a moment, I thought this was the crew from Return Of The Living Dead.

>>161257360
I totally have.

>>161258056
Fuck, you made me want to rewatch that now.

>>161258241
When the red haired girl asks the other guy whether he ever fantasized about dying and starts touching herself, imagine she's an elf tha talks about fucked up dwarf fortress style combat logs.
During the scene with her and the leather jacket & piercing guy, imagine he's a vampire wearing hundreds of bone jewelery of his victims
"You think this is a fucking costume? This is a way of life!"

social arc when :^)

>>161241141
>someone saved my shitty op from when the 2 year gap seemed endless
Top kek thanks anon

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>>161264173
>mfw I recognize that frog vore picture

how do I breed GCS? I have a pair but how do I make them hold hands and kiss?

>>161264173
I used to sort of enjoy playing this game but it's been so long. How can I casually get back into this. As in the casual version.

Can i still play this with tile sets? It looks like everything that has ever been created for this game by users is out of date and incompatible now like as if everyone gave up on the game.

What are you talking about

Of course you can play with tilesets you piece of shit

And while things like therapist don't work they will eventually get updatef

>>161266445
>How can I casually get back into this

3x3 embark and limit your population, that way you can control most invasions and sieges. Once you feel you're ready, take the limit off and pay attention to the number of dwarves x FPS.

Next fort you'll have some idea of what to do and how much you can handle without FPS death.

>>161267530
will dworf fort actually kill my computer? I have an i5 6500 and if it even matters a 1070. Does dwarf fort support 1440p ?

>>161268659
>i5 6500
Yes

>>161268659
DF kills everything. FPS death is inevitable.

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moth (wo)men are cute!
cute!

>>161266267
all of the tilesets still work, as do all the major tools and mods. DFhack is just having trouble adapting to the newest version because of the shift to 64 bit
>>161266267
you need to keep them together, they should breed sooner or later, if they're oposite genders

>trogo take down a human mercenary (humans are so fucking slow) and drown//choke him to death
>"Locked seizures the troglodyte"
top kek rng

>>161269946
that is very thick actually brother
Too bad I suffer from a fear of moths

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>>161270310
apart from the noise they make because their wings are actually thick as fuck they're cute irl

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>it's a "bronze colossus shows up out of fucking nowhere and rapes your entire fortress with his metal cock" episode

>>161269946
>>161270372
moths are seriously underappreciated, they're like the artsy asocial brother to the butterfly

butterfly:
>gaudy colors
>boring body
>normies think it looks pretty
>eats your fucking crops when in catterpillar form
>always concerned with sex or that sweet sweet nectar

moth:
>toned down, modest colors
>nice, fluffy nody
>normies think it's kind of creepy
>eats flies and other anoying insects
>will chill at your house if you don't throw it out
>seeks out more in life, will always go check out interesting lights

>>161270728
sock*

>>161271057
>eats flies and other annoying insects
nigger what, most moths don't even have a mouth and the caterpillar eat leaves and crops just like butterflies

but yes, moths are pretty based, that's why i made my fu rsona one!

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will toady survive long enough to finish DF?

>>161271057
>eats flies and other anoying insects
Most moths that eat at all are nectar feeders like butterflies. Most of the ones that are canivorous are parasitic. I'm not aware of any species that eats flies.

>>161271858
yeah, game has minimum 20 more years to reach 1.00
toad is 40
he'll live

>>161272927
>>161272927
20 decades amirite toady is a lazy useless shit

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>urist mcfuckface found dead
>urist mcwood found dead
>urist mcdoctor found dead
>urist mcminer found dead
>hunting dog f found dead
>urist mcexpedition found dead
>urist mcfisher found dead
>urist mcdonald found dead

i actually managed to lose the game in less than a minute.
fucking alligators, man.

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>>161276248
>so, Dodók, how did your fort fall?
>a fb killed us all in our 9th year
>and yours, Kadôl?
>conquered by an army of goblins in our 12th year
>what about yours, Urist?
>the a-alligators killed us in the t-third month

>>161277850
In his defense, the alligators are just bad luck. Anyone who plays long enough will eventually lose a fort on day one to gators or hippos or harpy husks or something like that. But losing to goblins or FBs is just unskilled play.

>>161279534
I bet you lost a fort to rhesus macaques!

I have

>>161280601
>tfw fort dies out because you're swarmed with giant keas and they just steal all your shit

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How do force useless dwarves with shit occupations to do work they otherwise wouldn't do?
I needed armors and weapons so badly, but nobody would forge them except for 1 dude

Also I hate were-lemurs now, pic related

It finally happened, /dfg/
I lost my first fort to a weremoose.
I lasted about three years and then that fucker killed 4 dorfs and injured 5 others, who I shoved in a hole to die
I would've been fine if those 9 dorfs hadn't been the ones farming/gathering/brewing all my alcohol
Winter came, river froze, I was out of booze. Everyone dehydrated before spring. Not too bad for my first fort, I guess.

>>161282229
n00b

>>161282187
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Labor#Assigning_Labors

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>>161284018
Thanks!

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>Masterwork
>capture and train an awakened stone
>can perform pretty much perform any task a dwarf can do, including doctoring at the cost slow experience growth

do you only learn facts about animals from training them from a wild state?

>>161286183
yep

>>161282229
Sounds similar to my first fort. Only it was a weremoose and I didn't know that werecreatures were building destroyers so the 15 victims I had locked away broke out and slaughtered my fort from the bottom up.

>>161286491
does the level of the animal trainer matter?

>>161287781
I think it's a minuscule change so not much. Animal training and animal caretaking in general pretty much sucks at the moment. When you have a war dog who has taken down dozens of intruders but, is left crippled by a punch to the right rear paw by a kobold and can do nothing but crawl for the rest of its life you've got a problem.

>>161287781
It doesn't affect the amount of knowledge you gain from training, if that's what you mean. It does affect the training level of the animal.

>>161290807
if i want knowledge should i be training wild animals with dwarves who have no animal training experience so they revert to wild faster and can be trained again for knowledge?

Someone in the last thread said Toady used to be a pretty big weeb back in the day.
Is this true?
Did he have good taste?

Anyone have pics of 1 z level forts?

I want to try build wide for once

>>161292748
Dwarf Fortress isn't infected with shitty weebshit... I think... so he didn't have bad taste at least.

>>161291786
That's damn near a miasa feels.

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>wave of red shit passes by fort
>dwarf and dogs turn into zombies and kill everyone else inside and outside the fort

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>>161291786
I suppose, if all you want is knowledge and the training quality doesn't matter to you. You'll be better served in the long run by a handful of highly skilled trainers, though, especially if you plan to do large breeding programs. Even moreso if you plan on keeping animals that can't be tamed as children.

>>161294890
i'm trying to learn facts about dragons

getting a lot of them is kinda hard since i dont know how to get them to come to my fort. i was lucky that i had 2 dragons as residents of my embark

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>>161285575
I just downloaded it.
Why the hell does my Masterwork look like FUCKING VOMIT.
All I did was set it to use ASCII, created a new world, but it's still using the ugly ass tilesets.

>>161294991
Ah. Well, they don't have a child state, so the last bit applies. I think you'll be better off getting some legendary animal trainers by training a whole lot of other animals. Over the course of a even a long-running fort you're not going to have enough training opportunities to raise your civ-level knowledge by any appreciable degree, even if you use an unskilled dwarf every time. The individual trainer's skill is more important to the final result than the civ-level knowledge anyway, so a few legendary trainers should be your priority if you ever want your dragons to be useful.

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>>161280601
My answer to rhesus macaques ever since my first encounter with them.

>>161298393
The finely minced lettuce really pulls the meal together.

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>>161298680
and for dessert

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>>161263658
when toady happens to get a friend and feels that friendship needs to be implemented into the game

I've just lost the same fort twice to a fucking werebeast. It hasn't even been a year, this is bullshit. Faggot literally jumped my moat and killed five dwarves before turning back to a human. I reloaded to fix my defences because I'm not dealing with that bullshit and he jump down from a cliff behind my wall. I jumped him with all twenty of my dwarves and he killed them to the last. It should give you at least a year to prepare for these faggots, I mean gabbos don't do this shit.

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>#noprogress

>>161300693
T-Toady just has low FPS irl that's why it seems so slow ;_;

>>161300881
>Scamps is lowering Toady's FPS
with his cuteness obviously

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>>161300938
>Scamps has been missing for a week

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That's the most interesting combat log I got the last few days. It's literally the whole encounter.

>>161301134
Was she made of what? I had a clay quadruped cut in half by a speardorf.

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>>161301134
Webs should only make you fall over if you try to move. If you stand in webs, you should still be able to attack and block, albeit with some penalties.

>>161301134
That's pretty fucking rad.

>>161301134
>wrestling gigantic underground monster

the dwarfiest dwarf

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>>161301361
Water

>As the car spins up onto the curb towards a crowd of people, my asian friend shouts "HIT THE BLAKES!" and I'm like "I CAN'T BE THAT SELECTIVE!"

>>161305890
What did he mean by this?

More music when?

What kind of music do you listen to when you play fort mode? What about adventure?

>>161301027
> implying toady won't finish his artifact game before his pet dies of old age
he'll die of old age first instead

>>161307564
Why would Tobhy focus on something that's been done by other people in a better way?

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plump bump

what habits do you gentle-dwarves practice that are completely unnecessary but nonetheless must be strictly followed for honorable living ie never building chambers greater than 6 x 6 otherwise a 7 x 7 must have a central support, or keeping living quarters 8+ away from workshops to prevent noise pollution.

>>161311428
2x2 stairwell-meme

>>161311428
Smoothing the upper levels of my 2+ high rooms.
I know there's no in-game benefit, but I'll be damned if my dwarves have to look up at unpolished, unengraved walls!
It literally kills me that the ceiling can't be decorated or smoothed...

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>>161212235
Skipbop is in a mood.
>>161213946
>>161247593
>>161248024
Thanks, here is something new. It has some things in it that make it rude.
>>161258056
I can totally see that.

>>161314427
>1962-1962
T__T

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>>161314710
That is just a really ugly 8, sorry.

>>161314427
TIMBUK TIDDIES

>>161315602
Haha no worries, would have been a nice bit of dark humour though.
The way babies are born with a full set of cutural/personal/item preferences and can form grudges etc it wouldn't be too far out for DF.

>>161313079
Personally, I'm fine with the top of my 2 level high rooms being rough. I imagine them having stalagmites and other cool natural stuff, which would be extremely fun to look at IRL.

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>>161314427
>dem dwarven hillocks on that girl in the poster top left

>>161314427
>>161315602

Marry me drew

>>161311428
>keeping living quarters 8+ away from workshops to prevent noise pollution.
I do that.

>>161314427
I don't know if any of the rest of you played it, but when I was a kid I loved the X-Men arcade game. One of the playable character's was Colossus, and when you used his superpower he struck this muscle flexing pose and and shouted in a very distinctive and unforgettable way. My mind immediately heard the dwarf's "OOOOOOH!" in Colossus' voice for some reason, and now I can't imagine it any other way.

That is all, back to regularly scheduled general.

>>161315602
Pure art

>masterpiece spiked wooden balls are worth 1500

you gave me good advice, /dfg/

How do I use a certain stone as a reagent?

>>161329361
Easy hack: assign a [REACTION_CLASS:STONED_STONE] in the stone definition and then flagging a reaction with that class will only grab it. I do that with skulls and megabeast hearts.

First time I've seen a proper use of a pommel strike: http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1759

Is there a place where I can look at and then save all of Timbuckdrew's good shit?

>>161333157
he has a blog and a FB page, but he rarely uses them. you're best off waiting for him or someone else to repost them in the general.

>>161210851
I want to get back into DF but I can't live without The Rapist.

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>>161311428
Never dig rooms in soil layers.
Large rooms must have supports (I don't always follow the 6x6 rule, but I do try to make rooms look structurally sound).
No staircases wider than 2x2.

I also give my outdoor buildings mansard roofs by default. Flat roofs are allowed, if there's a reason for it, but mansard roofs are the majority.

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>>161335140
>Why yes, m'lady, I give all my above ground buildings bonnet roofs.

How do I use any furniture as a reagent?

>>161335140
so using ramps as the ledges, or how do you do it in game?

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It's nice to get something aboveground other than a werechameleon every once in a while.

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>>161337896
Short and sweet.

>>161338183
>That was very satisfying!

>>161337806
Exactly. Looks sort of like
> ___
>/ #
>#
from the side.

>>161338731
why not
>.......__
>...._/ #
>___#

Why is adventure mode still so god damn boring? I start a game of adventure mode and end up suiciding from boredom within 5-10 minutes. How do I make this shit fun?

>>161340737
Think of a story.

>>161340737
>why isn't this game made for me

>>161340737
Go attack a vault

>>161340737
If the quests aren't enough, I recommend that you make up nice goals for yourself. For example, you can venture to the top of that huge mountain at the edge of the known world. Or you can just gather a band of entertainers and start a travelling troupe together.

So I have a reaction for turning an ore into a liquid, but for some reason, it turns into a glob instead. Why is this?

>>161340737
>Start adventuring
>Decide to do a quest
>Get lost trying to find my way there

>>161342114
Why didn't you ask for proper directions beforehand?

>>161339512
More materials and effort.
I haven't really thought of variations before, though. I just settled on what I did since it's basically the easiest kind of roof to do that isn't boring flat. I should try how that looks in game.

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embarking on both good and evil biome was a mistake
and it being a jungle doesn't help either

>>161343919
Everything looks fine to me.

>>161344332
I went in with a horde of zombies in mind, so no deaths on my side until now
already have properly fitted military up and meat without end
though, since I didn't want to seal the entrance there's no day without dwarfs scream and I doubt they will hold out much longer if I don't provide them some entertainment soon

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>all these weird and diverse wordings for describing how fat someone is
>no mention of T H I C C N E S S
Are we gonna have to wait for Toady to get a thicc GF before he adds it?

bumb

Are whips still lightsabers?

>>161353460
Nah. They're slower, as well. Still pretty good though.

>>161347738
he should made that modable desu

keas were a mistake

>>161360921
keas are a nuisance, giant keas are the mistake

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>>161347738
Americans think thicc as being fat, thicc iis not fat. thicc is being thicc.

>>161334776
>tfw I'm the same way
Anyone got an ETA on when The Rapist will work again?

>>161347738
>She would be skinny if not for her generous assets.
>Her hourglass build hides her well toned muscles.

>>161357142
Yeah, shouldve been moddable.

>>161300252

losing is fun

figure it out

>>161334776
>>161363901

Have you tried the dwarf hack rapist?

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>>161366723
I haven't been active in /dfg/ since the rapist broke from the shift to 64bit. I never really used dfhack much either. Please explain

>>161367287
As far as I know, dfhack comes with a similar feature, you can open it by pressing l or something.

I never really used either of them so I can't say how good it is.

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>>161367836
I'll have to see about trying that sometime. Thanks anon

why can't we encrust weapons and armor with gems again?

how do i remove dead shrubs and young tower caps?

i want to make a farm plot but theres all these dead things in the way

>>161355656
That's kind of true and kind of not. They take 2 ticks longer per attack than most other weapons (for comparison an average dwarf takes about 9 ticks to move one tile at a walking gait) and have a more severe accuracy penalty for multiattacks, however they still have the same 5x velocity multiplier on their attacks that they've always had. The damage formulae are unaltered from when whips got their reputation as lightsabers, but skulls are a little thicker and pain was significantly nerfed, which circumstantially make whips less effective at what they were best at: chipping a bone to make the enemy pass out and then exploding their head. That affected every weapon, though, not just whips. They're still unreasonably effective, and a silver whip is still a good contender for the most optimal blunt weapon an adventurer can find.

>>161369397
I believe building a wall on top will destroy them. I usually make all the plots before breaching caverns to avoid that.

do married couples need 2 beds in their room?

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>werepanda goblin invades fort
>muh fear the night
>goes after bait pasture near entrance
>probably won't be enough time to pull bridge up
>no problem, he got stuck fighting a nanny goat
>missed almost every hit
>only managed to smack some teeth before turning back
>flees at incredible hihg speed

Pathetic.

>>161370943
No but, I put in an extra one in just for flavor.

>>161369397
>>161370562
Dirt road.

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The game is determined not to let me have jabberers in this fort.

>>161371895
thanks

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This is different. A vile force arriving in the first week of summer. And in the same spot as the giant from upthread too.

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>>161373262
Edem is the first on the scene. She's a veteran who has sustained serious injuries on two previous occasions. She still has some adamantine sutures in her right hand from her first battle. She doesn't use that hand, she carries her spear and shield both in the left. Her lungs aren't actually injured, she's just really fucking drunk.

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>>161371459
I've also found that he was hitting the goat with a book, which I picked up and made a library for. It didn't pick my attention much because it's called "Random Disloyalty".

After two dwarves read it, I decided to take a look at what the book was about, and it says "some books contain the secrets of life and death". Moreover, the mentioned dwarves both dream of "ruling the world"

Is this what I think it is? Did I just fuck my fort up?

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>>161373665
I love it when this happens. The first wave is utterly defeated, and now my military are spawn camping. Appropriately, two spearmasters are right on the border where the enemy are entering the map. I imagine them forming a spartan-style shield wall holding back the wave of invaders as they pour down the mountainside. Behind them stand a few stalwart dwarves ready beat, chop or perforate any soul unlucky enough to make it past the spearmasters.

>>161374380
I bet it would be fun to jump around and hurt yourself inside that big jungle gym.

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>>161374380
Well, we only got 9 goblins in this attack. Hardly worth the time screencapping it, but at least it will be easy to clean up. Etur, the champion who slew the giant earlier today, was mvp. She's ungodly strong. Nearly all of her attacks pulped or severed, not only in this fight but against the giant earlier. One of her attacks even exploded a goblin's lip with a pommel strike from an adamantine weapon.

>>161374556
You would be surprised at how many dwarves have done just that.

>>161373674
Their professions would change to necromancer after reading the book if it was a book of the secrets of life and death. It's not unheard of for a necromancer to bring a slab with them in an invasion, but I've never heard of a werebeast doing it.

>>161251332
>>161251485
Yeah, I don't think artifacts, at least in their current form, are really supposed to make sense.

>>161282229
>Winter came, river froze, I was out of booze. Everyone dehydrated before spring. Not too bad for my first fort, I guess.

I honestly don't get how so many people can have this happen. The only time I've ever come close unintentionally (so discounting challenge games where I forbid myself from farming etc) was on my second fort ever, back in 2008 when I was largely just goofing around, then noticed that my dwarves were dying of thirst while I was paying attention to other things. Even then, less than half of them died and I went on to build a big tower and run out of stone, then accidentally pierce the aquifer from below while getting more and flood half the fort before moving on to other things.

I don't mean to sound harsh. I really have trouble understanding how people can fail to figure out that they can reassign labors or farm aboveground or various other extremely simple basic parts of playing the game.

>>161342045
I've never done any modding, but I'd guess it might be due to being below its freezing temperature.

>>161369272
I've been wondering about that too.

>>161373674
It might be a book about how loyalty is for suckers though; I'd check those dwarves' values. I don't know why you can't tell what's written in it just by looking though. What version are you playing?

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>>161375125
Well, I was mistaken. As soon as I cancelled the station order the siege tag returned and goblins started coming again. I guess they decided they couldn't spawn right on top of the dwarves anymore. Anyway, here's a screenshot of a dwarf destroying 5 pieces of equipment with one shot.

>>161375125
>>161375360

It wasn't anything fun thankfully, I had never dealth with book closely before so I got surprised with "secrets of life and death" message. Both dwarves had those traits before reading the book, it was just a coincidence.

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>>161375609
It turned out to be a few more than the 9 I thought. All defeated, mostly in pieces, with no casualties. No beak dogs or trolls this time around. Luckily I have plenty of time to clean up before the dwarven caravan arrives.

>>161375609
>XX{-lead bolt-}XX

>>161376916
Yeah, lead doesn't do well when hitting pretty much any armor-grade metal.

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>>161378385
But since when can you make bolts out of it at all?

>>161378769
Since I added [ITEMS_AMMO] to lead.

Healthy young dorf goes to library, reads book about elven and goblin culture many times, doesn't feel good and changes - ELF/GOBLIN LOVER.
Many such cases!

>>161379537
Reads like a Trump tweet.

>get bored of winning
>I know, I'll invade the circus
>literally impossible to win against size 50,000 clowns made of metal and gasses

>>161379980
That's the joke.webm

>>161380074
>literally impossible
maybe if you exclusively rely on melee military dwarves in candy.

Damnit, I am really getting tired of starting an adventurer only to find that he starts out stuck in a completely sealed off glitched section of a dwarven fortress. I thought Toady said that he had fixed that! I want my half hour back.

>>161380425
>not playing genetically superior human adventurers
>not enjoying comfy hamlets and towns
>not tearing apart goblins and gods with superior human metals

>>161380525
>genetically superior human
You mean elves.

Their primitive technology is the only thing holding them back.

Also, as adv mode companions, elves have the added benefit of not running off chasing random wildlife all the time.

>>161380525
Also, what's up with
>superior human metals

Dwarves are the only race to use steel, making them the technologically most advanced race.

>>161380074
>literally impossible
It's not. Adamantine can cut through any metal proc-genned creatures can be made from. Gas demons can be killed by literally any hit at all, though I'm pretty sure that only applies to steam, I can't think of another gas they can be made from.
It's the ones with deadly dust, webs, and poisonous vapors that are really dangerous no matter what material they're made from, and the ones made out of fire that explode on death.
Also, their size is 10,000,000. 50k is smaller than an average adult dwarf.

running increases endurance in adv mode right?

>>161381194
>Also, their size is 10,000,000. 50k is smaller than an average adult dwarf.
What's your point? That still makes the demons several times the size of a dorf.

>>161381320
No. Drowning does however, so swimming under bridges can be a good way to grind it. Just make sure to get good at swimming before you try it, so that you don't start flailing in the water.

>>161371459
>build moat around fortress mainly for cosmetic reasons because moats suck
>year1 werebeast attack
>ohshitohshitohshit
>werebeast observes my fort from a safe distance
>moves towards it then moves away
>after a while turns back into a child and fucks off
>maybe my moat does protect me

>next year, another werebeast
>this one runs straight for my fort
>leaps over the moat
>I lower the drawbridge so my pastured shitheads can escape
>they bait the werebeast away from my entrance
>it randomly turns back into a dwarf and runs away
>casualties: dogs, a cat, yaks and an alpaca, nothing serious

So... werecreature children can't jump?

>>161381407
166.66 times the size of a dwarf.
I wasn't making a point, I was correcting anon, who apparently thought that demons were size 50,000.

would an artifact bone sword be better than a masterful steel sword?

>>161381320
Attributes only increase when you gain experience in a related skill.

>>161381531
If the moat is wider than one tile, you'll need a running start to jump over it.

I'm not sure whether the combat AI understands this. Maybe the first werebeast stopped running for some reason, making it unable to jump over the moat. The second one may have kept its momentum, making it able to safely jump over the moat.

One thing is for certain: making a block wall inside the moat will stop everyone but the most proficient climbers, and might actually make the AI unable to initiate the jump at all.

>>161381606
No. Not even close.

>>161381606
It makes a nice letter opener

anyone know the hatching times for dragon eggs?

my dragon has been sitting on her eggs for like a year. im starting to think the eggs werent fertilized

>>161383382
Got a daddy for those eggs? If not you may as well start frying.

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>>161383446
yes

they were both residents of my embark area

they have the same first name. i'm not sure how dragon naming works and if it means they're related and wont mate

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>>161383573
You lucky motherfucker.

Anyway,
>Eggs may be fertilized when laid, or they may not. In order for eggs to be fertilized, a male of the species must be present (though this does not always guarantee fertilization). Unlike in previous versions of Dwarf Fortress, the male must be able to path to the eggs to fertilize. Depending on the animal, fertilization chances seem to differ.Verify If the creature is part of an actual civilization, then the egg-laying female must also be married in order for her eggs to be fertilized, and she likely must also be able to path to her husband. (In short, egg fertilization has the same conditions as normal impregnation in the game.)
>All fertilized eggs left undisturbed in a nest box hatch after exactly 3 months, unlike in real life.

Just keep 'em trying, you'll get one.

>>161383807
it wasnt all luck

it's been my dream to breed dragons in DF. i finally tried using the advanced world gen options and increased the number of megabeasts by 1000x, then looked in world history for a place where a female had settled and made a large embark area around there. it was lucky she was living with a male because i havent had a single dragon invade in like 8 years my fort has been growing

Will Toady skip Kobold sites again this update?

>>161385180
it wouldn't surprise me if he skipped them to get the initial release out faster. hopefully he'll still add them later on in the release arc.

I've had more visits from kobold thieves recently than in previous versions, which is cool.

Are child snatchers back too?

>>161386367
yes, but they're rare as fuck

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>a pack of rhesus macaques path into my fort for whatever reason
>they panic and run backwards as they see my dogs
>they do this back-and-forth for a week
>finally they start getting bolder
>they get cornered in a small courtyard
>watch for five minutes as my pack of dogs rip half a dozen macaques to pieces
>instead of running away the damn monkeys still try to make it into my fort with broken limbs and guts hanging out

Monkey AI should be tweaked, there's blood everywhere now.

>dwarven child has grown to become a peasant
>becomes mayor straight away

>>161387008
there is no special "monkey AI". their behaviour is determined by a combination of behavioral tokens in their raws.

>>161387857
[DINDU:NUFFIN]
[RAPE:REQUIRED]
[PREFERRED_FOOD:WATERMELON]

>>161387857
I know m8.

In this case I'm pretty sure the macaques tried to reach some item stashed in one of my storage rooms dug into the soil layer. I know it was because of their [STEAL SHIT] tag in the raws, it's just stoopid.

i just made a bunch of new clothes but now my dwarves has tonnes of wort out clothes in their rooms just lying on the floor. will they be mad if i dump all their old clothes?

>>161393993

Make cabinets and put them in their rooms.

>>161333257
I actually have all images drew has posted in the last 50+ or so threads
Dont know how to post them in one post tho, I have 0 experience with filehosting pages
I also save 9dots and frown-anon stuff
Frown-anon is the only one whom I am sure I have all of them

>>161396595
make an imgur album, you really only have to upload them, no hassle.

>>161340737
>Short/generic answer
This is an unfinished game
>Concise answer
The quest system sucks, and the world and npcs are too static, so nothing interesting without recurring to roleplaying happens in it
That's why the most amazing things you read here posted from other anons (excluding combat system stuff) usually are self-told stories and roleplay
It doesnt mean that they are not gonna be possible in the future, it just means that it isnt real for now

>>161363906
>>She would be skinny if not for her generous assets.
>>Her hourglass build hides her well toned muscles.
Those are actualy pretty good

>>161375360
I wonder if he'll take the chance to better the concept of artifacts that we have now in this update, now that he is at it

>>161378385
wait, bolts and weapons can get damaged?
And it depends on its phisical propierties?
Fucks sake, I need to play this game again

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I've got a ton of dorf stuff. Mostly from iFunny I'll be honest would anyone be interested in me dumping it all? And if so mega or itt?

>>161383998
>breeding dragons
You cant repoblate the dragons species anyway with 2 of them
animals wont fudge their sister or mother, so their species will die inevitably

>>161385239
na, I dont think so, he has slready done it right?
Or Im wrong?

>>161387008
they are ferocious animals, its what they do
We should have tokens determining such reckless behaviour instead, like >>161387857 says

>>161387615
You would be surprised about how much does that happen irl, my city is commanded by an ignorant idiot too

>>161396691
eh, why not
You dont mind, right Timbuk?
Do you also want 9dots or frown-anon?

So the DF wiki claims that you can melt things and get back more metal than you started with
Is this true? I've never played DF

>>161397449
These comics were drawn as contract work by a professional graphic artist, IIRC. Putting the ifunny watermark on them might be a serious case of copyright infringement.

>>161397950
>na, I dont think so, he has slready done it right?

Nope:
>http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/dev.html

so why did toady stop doing DF talks? i enjoyed them.

>>161401834
maybe because capntastic is a #sorandum teenage girl and talking to him is exhausting? just look at how he acted in the dorfmoot.

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>>161401834
>tfw never got to experience the age of DF talks
What did I miss out on bros?

>>161402374
What did he do? And why not just continue doing them without him if he's so annoying?

>>161402706
nothing since they're all still there to be listened.

>>161398135
It's not mine, I just found them thought they were funny and thought o would share. If not that's fine

>>161403494
I didn't mean that there was anything wrong with you posting them here. I just meant that ifunny seems to put their watermark on copyrighted material.

>>161403730
I'm pretty sure every shitty funny image hosting site is built on copyright infringment.

>>161404772
Maybe, but not all of them slap their watermark on everything.

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>page 10

begone, death

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tell me urist senpai
how hard is it to set on a glacier or freezing biome in general?

>>161410572
You can dig as you wish in the ice, and the ice can be smoothed just fine.

Getting through the aquifer is a bit tougher, since the aquifer water will immedeatly freeze if exposed to the sun. If you use the ordinary pump methods for getting through it should work though, as long as you leave a natural ice roof above it.

Also, the aquifers will provide you with water, even if you fail.

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>mfw the liaision asks if we want a baron
too bad we have to in order to keep ordering stuff from them

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>>161411993

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post comfy embarks

Ok I finished some tests

Out of 100 rounds, the human with the two-handed sword won 53 times and the human with the long sword won 47, they had steel weapons and armor and grand master weapon and armor user skills. This is the first time the human with the two-handed sword managed to win more times than the human with the long sword.

I've also did some test with humans with two-handed swords and short swords.

Out of 100 rounds the human with the two-handed sword won 38 times and the human with the short sword won 62, they both had no armor and no skills.

With grand master weapon skills the human with the two-handed sword won 43 times and the human with the short sword won 57 times.

The results are similar to the ones of the tests with the human with the two-handed sword versus the human with the long sword.

The next tests will be with armor.

>>161415259
2H sword > short sword
It is sad but not unexpected.

I hope you're keeping all of these in a record somewhere.

>>161417613
Yes, I am, I think I'll make a pastebin with all the results eventually.

>>161417613
>2H sword > short sword
might want to re-read that post

>>161415259
ok, question
If two weapons have the same atacks, materials propierties, etc. but one is double the size of another, would this bigger weapon be ''better''(have more reach)?
I've been wondering for some type now, If you want to make it, this would be a good test

>>161420054
Well

I guess it would be better if it was a blunt weapon like a mace, since it's better it should weigh more. I'm not sure if you can increase something's size while maintaining the same weight and material.

And all melee weapons have the same reach, as far as I know.

>>161420349
I mean, what that anon probably meant is comparition between two swords, where one of them is longer than the other
Until Toady fixes and declares how volume works, everething measured in cm3 is in a cube form

>>161418356
Don't forget to post the link on the weapon page of the wiki under "combat testing"[1]. Ideally you would describe your methodology in detail and compare it with the other combat tests.
There's a link with testing done by a user at the bottom of the weapon page [2] and more (outdated) combat testing can be found on the armor page [3] with links to forum posts [4][5].


[1] http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Weapon#Combat_testing
[2] http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/User:Shinziril#Weapons_and_Armor
[3] http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Metal#Weapon_and_armor_quality
[4] http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=53571.0
[5] http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=116151.0


I would really be interested in some meta-analysis on these combat tests.

Is it possible to influence a location that a ghost haunts? I want to build a prison wing and then abandon it and fill it with ghosts, but I read that ghosts just wander or haunt their relatives. If I killed an entire family of dwarves in the prison wing, would they stay there since they have no relatives to haunt?

>>161421945
Check the wiki page, some ghosts drift around their place of death. That's probably what you want.
On the other hand, it says they also drift around frequented places, so that might not work as controlled as you want it to.

>>161421945
Done something similar to that in the past
Basically, most dwarves that die frecuent their death location, so build a complex afasted from your fort, and let people you dont like starve there
You'll have a ghost prision in no time, and you'll feel like a comunist leader
bonus points if you call Fidel Castro to your mayor

>>161422226
the goblified dwarves over in the dark fortresses would celebrate your death

>>161422226
How far are we talking? I have a 6500 so I would prefer not to have a really large embark to eat my frames.

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2MB, 2888x1977px

>>161398050
Go for it.

>>161324953
Very unique take on it.
>>161326431
>>161317797
Thanks fellas.
>>161316590
I kind of feel like I should of gone with something like that now.