/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

I JUST WANT TO PLAY ROGUE

>play meme decks
>win
?????

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sup niggers i'm still collecting screencaps of your autistic outbursts for when rogue ascends to the next dimension of power

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Why does Blizzard hate her so?

>>161096503
you can play nigger rogue just fine lad :^)

>>161096572
Include me

I have my serious doubts that Rogue will be good, all of the class cards have been very disappointing and I dont see the remaining few saving it

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>>161096572
ok

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Shit /hsg/bearers say:

>Rogues are bad

>>161096574
who wouldn't want to beat that to a pulp

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first for our girl

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Does this even make sense?

>>161096772
>Rogues are gonna be bad next expansion
ftfy
See: >>161096679

Plz vote
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/expansions-adventures/mean-streets-of-gadgetzan/

>>161096772
>class identity
>stop forcing archetypes
>stop making cards that don't fit the class identity
>the new priest cards are insane

>>161096874
no I don't care

>>161096679
Is a single one of those priest cards bad?

>>161096845
Of course it does. 0 mana : Combo : switch
And you can juggle until death.

>>161096679
>>161096863
>Rogues are gonna be bad next expansion

>comparing Rogue cards to overrated as fuck priest cards, when rogue has actually new archetypes, solid additions to existing ones (miracle, burgle) and insanely flexible cards like the ferryman

YOU SHALL NOT PASS

>>161096837
>zeriyahnudes is the top donator
a cucked woman

>>161096845
It's technically true and it could actually be a turn 6 win condition. That does not justify the absolute garbage that the card is.

>>161096675
There are factors beyond what you currently believe to be true

>>161097042
>t-those priest cards aren't good people just think they are
>f-ferryman is perfectly viable

$0.10 has been deposited in your Blizzard account.

>>161096845
yes he's talking about mana spring totem

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could someone post an update midrange shaman list? the one that has like rag and lightning bolt and bloodlust now instead of 477.

>>161096874
Why would you want to look at shammy lego

>>161096989
Nope, all good/fantastic

the rest will probably be the same

>>161097250
why do they have milk on their faces?

>>161097117
Those factors are:
>New Priest removal for all your stealthed auctioneer needs
>Devolve for all your stealthed 30/30 Edwin and 2x Questing Adventurer needs
>>Ferryman for all your just a worse panda needs
>a new legendary whose only use is a free epic of your choice
>Rogue and Shaman as the better jade lotus decks
Should I go on?

>>161097250
Why do card game have to bait me into it with nude anime women

>>161097323
They're cats, they drink lots of milk by nature. Sometimes they're in a rush and are messy

>>161097250
I figure the people that play Shadowverse are the Hillary voters since it's all about the vagina.

>>161097176
>n-new priest cards are OP!!!
>shit like mana geode is literally a river crocolisk designed by reddit
>f-ferryman is SHIT! my redditbros agree!

Do you actually ever understand the capabilities this card has besides the obvious combo?

>>161097448
>f-ferryman is SHIT! my redditbros agree!
Reddit actually thinks ferryman is good

>>161097448
>capabilities of ferryman
>while saying geode is shit

>>161097323
?
That's just semen.

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>>161097448
Fucking tell me what it can do that this guy cannot asides from returning the swashburglar you play on turn 3.

Tier 0
Secret Paladin
Tier 1
Zoo
Midrange Shaman
Cuckold Priest
Midrange Hunter

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Guys, I work in Blizzard and we're going to be releasing this card tomorrow. Here's a preview.

>>161097825
fake because this is actually decent

play hearthstone! :D

>>161097558
>Reddit actually thinks ferryman is good
imma need a source on this

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>>161097409
devolve this

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>It wasn't a rogue weapon
That's it, I quit this shit game.

>>161097965
Ferryman COULD be good a tradein deck comes. But I doubt it.

>>161098110
I refuse to believe this is real

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>>161098110
>BLADE FLURRY DIED FOR NOTHING

>>161098163
That's because it isn't, card reveal is like... 7 hours from now

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>>161098163
>>161098207

Its not real, 7 hours until this thing is shown

>>161097894
Seriously dude?
>I've got the beast in my sights.
>>161098065
>Just one example where you think this is bad
>Still wrong:
>Lightning Storm
>Any spell damage + Maelstorm Portal
And at worst, if Leeroy is buffed with, say, Cold Blood, it still turns a stealthed 10/2 into a random 4-drop (average of 3-4 attack at best).

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>>161098110
I'VE
BECOME SO NUMB
I CAN'T FEEL YOU THERE

>>161097825
>Assassinate with a 3 mana body

OP

>>161098272
leeroy has charge

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>ywn be as alpha as this guy

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How many wins?

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I want her to report on me sexually

>>161096845
Gee if only there were other ways to prevent that from happening.

Like making the Ferryman cost 3 or making the cost reduction into (1).

But no. Card design. So hard.

>>161098485
actually a solid arena draft.

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Guys they decided to give rogue another legendary, AND they themed it after ragnaros! Take a look!

>>161098249
well look at it, there's no chance it's more than 2-3 attack since it's so little and diminutive. RIP blade flurry

>>161098358
>Leeroy has charge, so Evolve won't work against Edwin, Questing Adventurers and Auctioneer
Still, Rogues often want Leeory to live 2 turns. And not all miracle rogues run Leeroy.

>>161098740
barnes is already a card pham

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>>161098794
the beautiful thing about miracle rogue is that it has over 300 confirmed win conditions and that's just with its class cards

>>161098839
naw but dude this card opens up some design spaces for rogue that we really wanted to open

there is nothing out there like the ragonling mechanic right now!

>>161098249
What is the chance of a good rogue weapon coming out of this?

New cards are all boring and shit this week, let's talk about your first experiences with cardstone.

>started playing last one day before Nefarian vs Ragnaros brawl was released (the first brawl)
>thought Nefarian and Ragnaros were some super p2win classes that I'll never get to play
>at this time ATLC was also happening and this was the first tournament I watched, probably the best one by far as well
>thought that at high level play there almost only exist decks which don't play strictly on curve since I saw a LOT of Freeze vs Patron, Handlock, Priest
>first deck was a pseudo-tempo mage, remember looking at expansions and really wanting to get that Flamewaker
>the card that impressed me the most was Jaraxxus

Take a seat and tell me your stories.

>>161098694
It's a 4 mana 4/4.

man there are just not enough card for c'thun mage to work. it needs a dark arakkoa

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>Watching a hearthstone highlights video
>That absolute disgusting coward piece of shit "Zetalot" guy appears
How can people even watch him stream for more than 1 minute?

Hey /hsg/ I need your help, I bought Motorola g4 (2gb ram) and installed hearthstone, problem is it has really noticable lag (I hade HTC m8 before) I found out that this problem is due to higher native resolution. Is there any way to fix this?

>>161099475
Coward? Explain.

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>>161097239
Just check ViciousSyndicate

>>161096574
I'm in no way an artist but... what is wrong with he lips. It doesn't look natural.

>>161096845
The classic knife juggler combo. If you manage to achieve this with two knife jugglers, you would literally only get 10 hits.

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>>161099265
i began playing during the dominance of miracle rogue and this is one of my earliest memories

>it's a literally every rng element to the game goes wrong for you for a 2 hour stretch episode

>>161099475
I really like radiohead

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>>161099265
>Started playing straight bafter closed beta ended
>Played casually for a while
>Watched a trump arena video on a whim
>Decided arena didn't look as hard as I thought it would be
>Played hundreds of arena games and got totally hooked
>Naxx is announced
>More excited than I've been in years for something game-related
>Every new week it's like playing a whole new game
>Have played every adventure/expansion since looking for that same feeling
>Tfw still looking

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>Brawl
>The opponent get this
Poor him

>>161098940
If you devolve an Arcane Giant, what does it devolved too?

>>161099265
>was watching Yogscast play Hearthstone
>kept raging at how bad they all were
>finally got a beta key myself
>within a few months, reached Diamond 3 stars with Taunt Paladin
>stopped playing for 3 years, after 1st wing of Naxxramas was released
>started playing again when WoToG was still fresh
I still miss playing Paladin, nothing will ever be as it was before.

>>161099552
>this used to be highlight-worthy

top lel

>>161099847
arcane giant

>>161099475

Because people enjoy his 12 year old kid music taste because twitch chat is mainly 12 year old kids?

>>161099514
>Squelch everybody because getting emoted triggers him (Completely acceptable)
>"Oh look, I won! *Unsquelch* *EMOTE EMOTE EMOTE YOU BM BM BM ROPE ROPE HAHAHA* I am so rude and cool!"
The guy is scum, he's literally my definition of being a sad coward piece of shit queer.

>>161099261
>good
>rogue
>weapon
pick one

>>161099793
Interesting, I was hyped for TGT which was the first expansion for me.

What a failure that turned out to be, never been hyped for another expansion since.

things /hsg/bearers say

>rogue needs a weapon

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This is completely broken. What is Brode thinking?

>>161099850
>taunt paladin

I can't imagine that ever being viable but I guess in the beta everything was possible.

>>161100128
Rogue needs an euthanasia.

Wow guess I didn't play around turn 9 fucking flametongue, rockbiter, bloodlust haha well played

>>161100157
He is probably thinking about how shit mirai nikki is.

Was MagicAmy ever real?

>>161100128
>rogues need to exist

Will the new rogue brewmaster card be viable in a Jade Spirit "Shadowstep" deck?

>>161100360
Arent most jade stuff deathrattles?

>>161099265
>friends were hooked on this game
>started playing right before TGT
>didn't have any cards, so I played arena all the time
>paladin was top tier in arena back then, so the first meta deck I've made after grinding arena was midrange paladin
>the first time I was climbing ladder and got to about rank 8, I got 30 to 0'd by a malygos freeze mage
>I then realized Loatheb is a better card than Murloc Knight
I miss Loatheb desu

>>161100453
There're exactly two Jade deathrattles.

>>161100453
The jade spirit is a 4-drop 2/3. If you're running 8 bounces with it, then.... I dunno, it's still bad. They would have to have another battlecry jade statue to be good.

>official blizzard hosted all star tournament
>there are no stars attending

it's like poetry

Would a jade golem one drop be balanced?
Maybe 0/1 or something?

>>161100321

>tfw you will never scam the hearthstone scene and money out of lonely pro players by having a female friend pretend to be you

>>161099878
You sure? Or does it skip to a ten mana minion?

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Why isn't this played more in N'zoth decks? He's really good, at least in this aggro shit meta anyway.

>>161100915
Deals 2 damage to own face. 4 with N'zoth.

>>161100915
The same reason you don't play Anomalous in N'zoth decks

>>161100915
>gets revived to deal 2 AoE damage to your fresh N'Zoth board

>>161100915
It doesn't do much of anything to shaman other than make Steaks a bit worse. But really they'll probably just hex it.

>>161100915
>aggro meta
nice meme

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>>161099265

>tfw unironciaclly using this guy because he was the biggest neutral taunt in the starter set

Simpler times.

>>161100915
because we are in a meta where taking any damage means you're going to get bursted down from hand

>>161101192
wat
the only popular deck that's running a ton of burst is tempo mage
secret hunter and shaman don't have that much burst from hand

>>161101189
Yup, this guy was crucial in my Taunt Paladin deck. He was a true MVP, rest in peace, friend.

>>161101189

He was a great help in my first ever climb to 20

>>161101189
Why not just run sunwalker?

>>161101149
>Zoo is control
Nice meme

>>161101347
anti blood knight tech

>>161101481
>zoo is relevant
shit meme

>>161101503
Have you watched Dreamhack?

>>161101579
no i played ladder

>>161101579
tournament meta is not representative of ladder because of bans

>>161099847
What if you devolve a Molten Giant?

>>161101764

Molten Midget

>>161100892
i have no reason to believe it would do that, evolve never skips mana cost for 10 drops

>>161101272
rank 22 talk.

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Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to the Arena in 10 hours.

Dont know everytime i try to play rouge i face shaman...
turn one trogg
turn two Totem golem
Turn three dmg totem.
...consed.

what are the core cards for renolock/control lock? i really want to play it

>>161102107
I wouldn't dare, by the look of that deck i'd get squished

>>161101927
rank 5 talk actually
what popular decks are running a ton of burst other than mage?

>>161102386
>I AM THE ESSENCE OF MAGIC!!!

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APOLOGISE

>>161097448
>Mana Geode is bad

The metropolis of thieves everybody.

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>>161102302
>reno
power overwhelming, peddler, doomsayer, imp gang boss, sunfury, argus, refreshment vendor, shadowflame, emperor thaurissan, reno jackson, twisting nether
>handlock
2x mountain giant, 2x sunfury, 2x twilight drake, 2x argus, faceless shambler, 2x doomsayer, jaraxxus, emperor thaurissan

image is example of both but lists vary and especially for reno

>>161102302
I have both wild and standard lists, which one

>>161102464
I TAKE YOUR CANDLE is pretty good too if you don't have THE ESSENCE OF MAGIC!

>>161102464
just pressure them early and they won't have any spells left

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>>161102709
>river crocolisk is good

>>161099261
It's 100% confirmed rogue is not getting any weapons by blizzard itself

>>161102837
literally don't know why the memers are play snow kobold instead of evolved kobold

>>161102890
>pressure them early
>deck that runs Abomination
Choose one.

>>161102893
River Crocolisk as a vanilla minion was pretty good.

A River Crocolisk that can spawn a 2/2 any time somebody licks its wounds is constructed good. Or are you forgetting this minion is going to be followed by a Kabal Talonpriest and turned into a 2/6 every game.

>>161103110
Youre forgetting the fact that most 2 drops die the moment they are played.

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>tfw 78th best Wild player in yurop
bow to me noobs

>>161103110
Talon does make me wonder whether it's so good priest wouldn't mine running another suboptimal 2drop

>>161103239
If you follow that thought, you can't play anything because it dies.

>>161103269
I hope you are aware that's equivalent to like rank 7 standard

>>161103361
You can't extract value to justify playing this minion != you can't play any minion

>>161103110
dies to everything on curve so you'll be playing a spider tank

>>161103385

that's being generous

>>161102924
Nice source bud.

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bets laddy daddies

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>>161099265

the more things change, the more they stay the same

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BLIZZARD DESIGNER TEST

Rogue's weakpoints are:

1. Bad AOE
2. No Taunts
3. No Healing

Shaman's weakpoints are:

1.
2.
3.

Warrior's weakpoints are:

1.
2.
3.

You should be able to solve this.

>>161103774
Rag, arcane,arcane and shields up!

>>161103385
I'm rank 3 in standard

equivalent to c0 in shadowverse VoHiYo

Trump is objectively the best Hearthstone streamer

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>tfw 9 golden heroes.

what am I supposed to do now?

>>161103873
look at the sidebar IDIOT
you can clearly see they're moltens not arcanes

>>161103935
reach legend

>>161103935
stop trying to show off on an anonymous image board and go outside

>>161103935
Get all cards
then get all golden cards

>>161103794
Shaman's weakpoints are:

1. Bad card draw
2. No way to generate cards from outside of their deck (like burgle)
3. Overload

>>161103794
Shaman:
1. . . .


This is fucking hard.

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>>161103760
fucking kill me i already had him

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>>161103935
become Legendary

>>161102782
standard

>>161103995
>>161104102

>grinding against the shaman horde withe shaman or other equally cancerous decks

yeah, no

>>161104239
then go Wild and experience both Shamans and Paladins

>>161103794
I don't know if shaman has a weak point but warrior has one, can't transform minions

>>161103361
Yep and thats exactly why every minion played has an immidiate effect or deathrattle

Congrats youre learning the basics of hearthstone

>>161103794
>>161104057
Shaman's weakness is that it can't curve out normally because of overload. This is why shaman was so bad before tunnel trogg incentivized playing at a low curve for the first 5 turns or so.

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>>161104102

>>161104626
>dat filename
My sides are on escape trajectory from the Milky Way

Todd.

Todd, I know you are here.

Sell me on Legends.

>>161104578
Of all the crap that shaman has, at least a good portion of their kit rotates out next year.

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>>161104626

I wonder if he ever feels happy playing this shitty game

>>161104036

Bad card draw?

Mana tide totem bro

>>161104626

Type: Null
Ability: Salted body
Moves: rage, payday, growl, splash
Characteristic - Unlucky

>>161104794
>leather jacket
no sunglasses?

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if you're not playing dragon reno warlock then just leave the thread, thanks

>dust all my F2P stuff on EU to make competitive F2P C'thun Druid and C'thun Warrior

>I'm doing better on ladder than with my NA account.

The fuck is wrong with EU.

>>161104962

He thinks he's cool, but not too cool

>>161105013
mmr

>>161105013
yuros are shit PASTORLUL

>>161104968
I play Mill Rogue.

No I don't feel bad because I want everyone playing this game to be miserable.

>>161096679
>Priests suddenly want more combo cards and dragon tribe cards

Oh wait, they didn't

>>161106281
>dragonfire potion is a combo card
>dragonfire potion requires dragons to be played

>>161098485

That would be a very short report.

>>161106482
but it does nothing against azure drake or twilight drake, wait a minute is this on purpose how far will team 4 take the 4-attack joke?

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are you ready for your new midrange shaman?

>>161105013
Getting to rank 20 on eu instead of rank 23 on us is not good btw

>>161106696
that looks awful

>>161104794

Reynad is that fucking jock asshole in school who, for some reason, wanted to join up with the M:tG group and bring his shitty "BROOOOOOO" attitude with him.

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>Playing arena
>Play unstable portal turn2
>my opponent plays some weak shit on turn2
>T3: Cairne Bloodhoof: Created by Unstable Portal

>>161106696
>making lists
>before all the Jade Lotus cards are revealed

that was your first mistake

>>161106813
Yeah well you smell.

>Rogues can't stop crying bitter bitch tiers when they currently have a deck that's AT LEAST tier 2

Meanwhile, Paladins are completely dumpstered in this meta and currently have this to look forward to:

>>161106818
we'll see how you feel after the xpac and you keep losing to millions of jade golems that you can't get past bc they have taunt, cuck

>>161106984

I would be pissed too if my favorite class only had one favorite archetype since launch

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First reply picks for me

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>The video showing this is now on youtube
>but its private
>gonna have to wait 4 and a half hours

please just tell me if its a good Rogue weapon already

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>3 swipes
>3 druids of the fang

rate it or hate it

>>161107313
priest

>>161107316
>Rogue
>fist weapon

Anon, I...

>>161107379
I can dream goddammit

>>161107316
>wanting rogue weapons
kill yourself shitter

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What about this card guys?
Mill rogue finally gets a card.

>>161107316
I'm sorry anon but Rogues will never get a good weapon.

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>>161107339
Feeling real good

>>161107316

>Let's give more broken shit to rogue
>Haha how about a weapon that gives a coin

Just kys

>>161107557
costs too much. would be good if it was a 2 mana 1/2, or even better a 0 mana 0/1

>>161107197
I dont even play HS anymore dumbass

>>161107638
me either but i'm planning on reinstalling when the xpac comes

wonder how many people here don't play anymore

if im learning something in the tavern is that there is a shitty 1 attack minion for basically every mana cost while my opponents are going to be rolling doomguards, sylvanas, rag, overstatted 4drops, kvaldirs and blademasters everywhere

the portal mechanic is so fun haha! random!!

>>161107627
Dunno anon. It doesn't seem bad.
It seems like a good way to force your enemy to play off curve and waste a removal. Play it on t4 after clearing enemy board and prevent the enemy from playing Azure Drake, which is probably the most popular t5. If the enemy does play Azure, he has no way to contest your reporter and she will be a 5/5 when he starts his next turn.

Obviously the cheaper version would be better since it would allow you to Reporter + Brann + Coldlight or Reporter + Coldlight/Shadowstep shenanigans. But I don't think it's bad. Okay, it's bad in the Shamanstone Shamans of Warcraft meta, but could be good.

>>161107879
Could also become extremely relevant if Freeze mage becomes more than a spot on the meta.

Dropping this and killing their loothoarder or Acolyte guarantees it to becomes a 5/5 on their turn, so they have to either waste some better removal or deal some other way with it.

>>161107703
anon you have that backwards
the battlecry should be welps, the charge should be the combo
otherwise it's op
:^)

>>161107738
I decided to fall for the Shadowverse meme and installed it today. Will see how it is until the expansion hits, I can barely force myself to complete quests in HS now.

>>161107316
Jade Claw
1 mana 1/3 weapon
Has +2 Attack if you control a Jade Golem

Shaman class card

>>161108347
this is the most cancerous thing i've ever seen

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>>161108347
DELETE THIS

>>161108347
That curve reminds me of zoo, are you sure it's not control?

Why won't Blizzard allow Valeera to play anything but degenerate combo decks?

All of this is because Prep is evergreen. Either rotate it or nerf it so she can have weapons and minions and heals and actually have more decks than just miracle.

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>people on hearthpwn defending JUST
>people on reddit lauding that this will make (bounce rogue?) top tier
>people saying this card is better than purify and defending it

What
The
Fuck
Am
I
Reading

Hearthstone player are legitimately lobotomized. There's no other explanation. Is Shadowverse actually good or just average? Is there any good alternatives to this trainwreck?

What class is the best for mill right now, druid or rogue?

Someone drop me a list, I want to meme.

>>161109005
just play >>161108347 bro

never played rogue but i don't understand why blizzard hates them so much. maybe they think miracle will be very good with their new coin. which is possible

>>161109005
>>people on reddit lauding that this will make (bounce rogue?) top tier

uh I thought reddit was having a mini purify level meltdown about the card?

>>161109005
I think it's worse when they admit it's bad but still try to defend it
>it's not strictly worse guys, there's some situations where it's better than the panda
>even if it would just be a vanilla 2/3 in that situation

>>161109207

It is, there is like 1 or 2 threads of denial though

>>161108347
No secret keeper? The fuck?

>>161109005
Can someone explain to me how this card is different from a brewmaster, apart from the fact that the brewmaster is easier to play (and the 2/3 vs 3/2 statline)? Why is this a rare? Why is this a card at all? Aren't class cards supposed to be better than neutrals?
Am I missing something here?

>>161109397
i didn't know what to drop for it but you're right. grimscale chum?

>>161109532
In blizzards mind being able to decide if you want to bounce or not is an advantage even though you would be just playing a fucking crocolisk with no beast tag if you play it without combo and wasting 2 cards on something you can do with one if you do want to bounce.

And this is assuming we forget the fact ROGUE HAS THE BEST FUCKING BOUNCERS IN THE GAME ALREADY.

>>161109532
it is a somewhat infuriating card

>>161109596

Inquisitor. No Murloc synergy.

>>161097825
>not a 2/4
Won't see any play.

>>161109532
you aren't
it's a shit card for a shit class that couldn't afford getting even more shit minions

>>161109596
probably getaway kodo and/or repentence. in fact i'd remove both of those for 2x secret keeper and 2x argent squire

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>>161109532
https://twitter.com/bdbrode/status/536532439787507712

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>>161099475
Now with FBaWtFT In Bruges main cast is all wizards. Too bad Farrell is the only one not introduced in Goblet of Fire.

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What the heck is "Bounce Rogue"?

People are suddenly talking about it, but what IS it? What's the deck list?

I exclusively play meme decks and even I have never heard of this before.

>>161109532

Blizzard tried to see if they could do a second purify

>>161109532
>Why is this a rare?
To be 100% honest I think its because of the "complexity" of the card, aka blizzard think that deciding to combo or not takes enough braincells to justify making this rare.

>>161096572
tomb pillager is 10000x better

rogue will be shit after rotation if nothing relevant gets added

>>161109742
>repentence
but what about when they drop big taunts....
>getaway kodo
but it synergizes so well with the hand buffing!!

>>161109772

Its a fever dream anon

>>161109772
infinite value defias ringleader

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>>161109772
You bounce battlecry minions up and down your hand.

It's not a great great deck, but it's annoying for people.

>>161109772
you bounce cthun activators to drop a 30+ cthun with a 1/1 brann

it works one in 15 games but it's absolutely fucking hilarious to see

also just general shadowcaster memes

>>161109850
dumb pillager is 7/10 trash. and did it occur to you that every class is losing cards? think before you spew /hsg/bearer memes

>>161109946
Why would you run double Cutpurse?

It's not even a Battlecry minion.

>>161109946
So what is exactly the point/win condition of this? Bouncing healbot until people concede out of boredom?

>>161109964
tomb pillager is the best 4 drop in the game you imbecile

pretty much everyone would run tomb pillager if their class had access to it

>>161109964
poor bait

>>161110113
I can't wait until it's gone

>>161110113
>tomb pillager is the best 4 drop in the game you imbecile

No its not

>>161110059
It's a mill deck but that has bouncing of the coldlights instead of just relaying on the Gang ups and vanish.

>>161110059

I guess its just trying to create enough of an advantage through battlecrys and bouncing to have a decent board-state, then go face?

idk

>>161109772

Its not a deck list but a mechanic.

The ided of a Bounce deck is to control by repeating certain strong effects over and over with the use of shadowstep, brewmasters and over various cards that do it.

Its honestly rogues true mechanic, but they never had any expansion minions that truly support it, as combo cannot interact with brann and rogue has no battlecry heal so they have to resort to neutrals to fill that role.

>>161110113
>tomb pillager is the best 4 drop in the game
that would be Shredder

And before you say "standard", well you said "in the game" so...

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Rogue is dead and Blizzard doesn't have any plans on changing that. Nothing to see here folks, move along.

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should i drop MC? am i losing if the game gets to turn 6 anyways, or is it a necessary finisher?

>>161110182

what is ,then?

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>>161110245
i like where this is going

>>161110245
I'm actually okay with his reply since that's rogue identity. I don't get why everyone wants every class to have the same tools.

>>161110271
>Falling for the MC meme
MC is not a secondary win condition that you can put on any deck like Nzoth, either make a secret pally deck or make a buff deck, don't ruin your deck because of trying to fit everything in it

>>161110271
it's good

>>161110271
looks like a pretty solid control deck, i think the challengers will work

>>161110352
Because every other class has every tool except Rogue.

No one asks the tools to be perfect or great, but let them at least exist. Rogue right now has nothing except meme without win condition and miracle which is pretty bad in the meta and 110% draw dependent.

>>161110297

On the top of my mind, Barnes and Shredder are way more powerful than it

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>>161110352
You know this just means they'll continue pumping out tempo rng garbage right? In Blizzard's eyes Rogue already has strong aoe+card draw and that they don't need anymore.

>>161110518
this

miracle vs shaman is hilarious because you have to draw well and they have to draw poorly, not one or the other
>>161110545
tomb pillager is better than

>>161110352
The problem is that rogue doesn't have very strong single target removal (that would be warrior). It does have top tier card draw though.

Also does this mean that card draw, life gain, strong aoe, strong activators and synergy, strong single target removal and strong weapons are warrior's identity?

>>161110545
>>161110616
i fucked up with autoreply

tomb pillager is better than barnes

Barnes is the stupidest card released in a while.

I bet Blizzard thought it would be used in wacky fun decks but in reality people just slap it in there because he is a like 2/8 chance of instantly winning the game if you highroll the summon.

There isn't really anything interesting about him, just slap him and pray you get Rag/Highmane/Cairne/Sylv/whatever.

>>161110616
miracle is fine against shaman

>>161110518
You're right. And thats probably the main problem: others have more.

If you look at the WoG expansion, Rogue gained a lot from it:
- Fine rigue cards
- Enough support to make C'thun work for Rogue
- Enough Deathrattle support to make N'Zoth work for Rogue.
- Yogg could be easily added to a miracle like deck.

It seems that this time, Rogue gianed the coin for miracle but also for combo at large, and now seems to have more bounce/stealth effects. If anything, the problem is that the other classes are doing too much and rogue can't shine without being specialized. Doing a "goodstuff" rogue deck (midrange) simply doesn't work for the class like the others.

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>>161110563
>Blizzard thinks Sprint is viable card draw
>takes your whole turn 7
>on a class that is most likely dead on turn 7 against anything that can summon 1 minion per turn

>>161110775
>rigue cards
rogue* cards. And by that I mean that the new cards helped rogue as a whole. Just look at Shadowcaster for example, a good card that favors interesting deckbuilding, even if very niche.

>>161110518
>Because every other class has every tool except Rogue.
I get that warrior, shaman, and mage are running the ladder, but they're not every other class.

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>>161110819
>dead on turn 7
>le "we're in an aggro meta" meme

>>161110775
>WoG
>added a lot to Rogue
Yeah, a lot of Burgle.

N'Zoth is great, but works better in other decks. C'Thun is bad and works better in other classes.
And yeah, lets add Yogg to a deck that is already retarded RNG intensive because having to rely on the perfect draw and your opponent having shit draw is totally okay if we add Yogg for the stories.

While will you actually remove in your Miracle deck to add the coin? It's a dead card if you don't draw your Auctioneer. Coins makes the deck even more draw dependent which is outright bad.

>>161110920
No, we're in the midrange Shaman meta where Shaman pumps out overstated minion after overstated minion which Rogue can't deal with.

>>161110245

Except rogues single target is crap.

Theres eviscerate, backstab, betrayal and assasinate. Sabotage in gvg was ok. And now after 2-3 years shadowstrike.

>>161111061
uhhh

sap?

>>161111061
no it isn't

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Rogue healing.

>>161111061
Half the classes would like to have rogue's crap single target removal.

>>161107879
The problem is: what would you cut to play it? Mill rogue's kit needs to be pretty balanced between survival and consistency, and slotting this in feels like a dead play over direct removal, heavy draw, life gain, etc. If mill was going to play anything shown so far, it's the 1 mana 2/2 that gives health.

>>161111215
Hell I think a priest of the feast would fit right into rogue, just make it heal like 1 or 2 health per spell and make it like... a 3 mana 5/1

>>161111050
>C'Thun is bad and works better in other classes.
Yes I know, I just mean that Rogue got enough " support" to be able to play those 3 gods (unlike paladin for example, that has 0 C'thun support). I'm not saying its optimal, just that it's there.

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>>161111107
That is NOT removal.
It simply stalls for 1 turn, huge difference. You are not removing the threat. Its effectively a better ice lance or emergancy coolant.

>>161111217
>>161111126
Backstab and evis are great but let me elaborate rogues mid-late game removal is bad.

>>161111565
no it isn't

>>161111126
Well, I wouldn't really agree with the anon that they are crap, but I wouldn't also agree with the Blizzard guys statement.
Rogue has probably the biggest amount of playable single target removals, but not the best one.
That would still be Warrior, Priest and Shaman territory. Not many things come even close to Hex, Execute and Entombe.
On top of that, Warriors weapons are better single target removals than anything Rogue has to offer. Win Axe deals with everything you can throw early game, Gorehowl deals with many things late game.

>>161109005

Are you legit retarded or something? That card is absolutely crazy in mill rogue. Post your rank.

>>161111565
I think you vastly underestimate how bouncing something even for one turn and making the other pay again can be a game changing effect.

>>161110271
You should not play Getaway Kodo and Noble Sac in a Mysterious challenger deck, for starters.

Also how about some weapons and chargers instead of six cycle cards, are you trying to mill people

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JUST

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>>161111651
since when does mill rogue use panda?

>>161111847
proof that redditors are retarded

>muh class identity
>muh healing
and they're no different from this place

>>161111565
Do you think it's better to execute sylvanas, tirion, or highmane than to sap it, and sapping it is effectively a better ice lance

>>161111951
>>muh class identity
I think you are the retard anon. A good thing you arent in charge of designs.

>>161111847
>If you absolutely need to have healing, taunt, or AoE to be competitive then that is a problem with Hearthstone and not Rogue specificially.
The blizzcuck is actually right.

Watch them buff shaman again, though.

>>161111972
Depends on the situation. In the case of Tirion, sapping is totally better because they're denied the weapon AND they have to recast an expensive minion.

>>161111847
rip auctioneer

>>161111747
the point of all the draw is to get huge hands to buff, and then dump, and then redraw and do it over again. if i had standard aggro cards instead of cards focusing around the new hold mechanic, it'd be a worse hunter

>>161111972
It's better to spend 3 mana to transform it to a 0/1 taunt.

Oh look, what a surprise, Shaman once again better than Rogue, this time at what is supposed to be a Rogue "specialty."

>>161112282
No.
Later he said that they don't want to deal with Auctioneer because a lot of people love him and it's not really OP.

Auctioneer is here to stay. Until they need to open up more "design space" for Rogue spells.

>>161111847
>i wish nzoth and cthun rogue caught on
he just finished justifying why rogue shouldn't have healing and taunts, and then wondered why they didn't catch on

>>161111565
you're dumb as fuck

>>161112475
Yeah, pretty funny.
>I wish these decks that need taunt and heal or heal and aoe caught on in a class that lacks any of those

I love N'Zoth rogue, but damn is it hard to make it work even slightly. Doesn't work even in the slightest against Shaman.

>>161112475
Hearthstone devs are legitimately retarded.

Like someone asked why there aren't stats available to players and he went on a long winded post about not "cluttering up the UI" as if plenty of games (including PUBLISHED BY BLIZZARD) don't just put them on a website.

>>161112641
just put belcher and nerubian egg in

>>161111604
It is.

What does rogue have in that department? Assasinate, Blade of cthun and in wild, sabotage. That is it.
You could argue that patient assasin counts but lets be realistic theres a reason no-one plays it and thats because its removal that gets removed itself by mere random pings.

All of these are so slow in todays meta that they rarely get seen, BoC only used because it buffs cthun as well.

Mage on the other hand has 3+ late game removal all at varying costs of mana
Shaman has 2 but are cheap.
Priest has 3 but are by far the most powerful.

>>161111673
>>161111972
you are misunderstanding what im saying. Sap is great at stalling a huge threat, possibly saving you in the game by making sure its effect cannot happen until later.
But that in function is not removal. Removal is eliminating the threat entirely, not just for that turn or stalling it until you can deal with it later.
The threat will always be there, you are just banking on that extra turn, that turn of it not being on the field to be of use.

>>161111857

2014

>>161112363
Shaman is better at everything than every other class except when it comes stealing cards, but Devolve should fill that niche for people who want to make others ragequit and don't have enough priest cards.

Is this your key argument for rogue having crap single target removal

>>161112753
removal is removing something from the board

sorry, you're wrong

naturalize is removal even though it gives twice as many cards

>>161110337
THAT CARD IS NEVER COMING BACK THEY ARE JUST USING "WE LIKE COMBO" AS AN EXCUSE NEVER TO GIVE ROGUE ANYTHING

FUCK

OFF

>>161112795
Devolve is also a form of removal.

Hell how can you argue Rogue is a class with strong removal when unlike Shaman or Mage they have no transformation removal?

>>161112830
Why would I ever claim naturalize is not removal? It permanently gets rid of a minion, of course it is.
Sap is a bounce card that forces it upon your opponents minions. I doubt you would count vanish as removal so why sap? Because its effective? That still doesnt make it removal.

>>161112959
Because rogue has more efficient and flexible single target removal than hunter, druid, paladin, priest, and warlock

Warrior also has no transformation removal, are you going to argue his single target removal is shit

>>161112923
>DUDE ALL CAPS I'M A FAGGOT

>>161113194
So the best trait an ACTUAL HEARTHSTONE DEVELOPER can come up with as a core of Rogue's "identity" is being 4th best in the game of something.

Spectacular!

>>161112959
Most shieldbearer thing said in this general today

How can a rogue remove a Flamewreathed Faceless on Turn 4 without either losing board presence or devoting his entire mana pool and more than one card to removing it?

>>161113340
Being 4th best at the game at something is actually a problem with the top 3 classes that should be worse either in this aspect, or in others.

I'd take a strong rogue weapon over a transform removal every time, better yet - just nerf the classes that are excellent at several things and at least good at all the others, instead of giving them more and more strong cards.

>>161113669
Sap

>>161113669

patient assasin mah boy.

>>161113669
...sap?

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needs some help here
i dont believe heartharena about picking the mech

>>161113786
anomalus I guess

>>161113669
sap
and in fact sap is probably the best answer to flamewreathed

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Priest versus priest is fucking retarded.

>>161113786
this early on biggest body trumps everything
go with anomalus

>>161114035

I'm a main priest, and I concede 50% of the times because its just pure bullshit to go through

>>161113786
Anomalus is too situational and you don't want 8-mana situational cards.
Justicar in mage could be interesting, but arena is not a long-time value grind and a 6-mana body that trades down with 2-drops is bad.
Mimiron is just a 1-mana weaker yeti, which is weak, but acceptable. And since it's your first selection, you might be able to get the dream.

>>161113669
kek rogue has the single best answer in the game to faceless
it's a huge setback to have it sapped to the point where any deck with flamewreathed probably reduces its chance to win by like 10% against rogue

>>161114035
I instaconcede priest if I'm against another because it's just a boring and annoying grind to play through.

>>161113779
>>161113764
>>161113972
Does not remove it, the shaman will just play it later.

Its the exact reason why rogue is forced to play miracle and miracle only, because they best deck tries to cheat out an otk as quickly as possible, they are unable to truly remove big threats so early, only keep it locked down long enough for them to hopefully otk.