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Vampire Kiss Edition

Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone /hsg/ .
The Steam version launched on October 28th.

Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799676100

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh

Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor for the lazy or mentally handicapped. Open wide and enjoy responsibly:

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Kiss'ed: >>161045354
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Is Forte a racist
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Post the most recent screenshot you took
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>>161063891
She only dig black dick, so yes.
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>>161063858
The tags are deceptive
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>>161063917

What's a king to a god
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>>161063917
Nothing personal
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Am i picking good?
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>>161063917
Please no bully.
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>>161063917
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>>161063957
Seconding this, SV needs to get more popular desu
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>>161063629
>>161063708
Posting again since I forgot the first time. I don't run Mordecai since his impact isn't immediate.
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xth for DING DONG!
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>>161063917

My first 5-0 with Sword
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this card is actually overstatted as fuck
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Blizzard, please.
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>>161063917
this turn started with me having a single morde out.
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>>161064074

How does it fare against haven? it doesn't seem to have the tools to deal with them.
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>>161063807
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799676100

I was gonna criticize the sudden inclusion of this, but that actually seems like a fairly solid guide. Good job, anon.

Don't know why you included Rose Queen as a deck though, unless she became a proper deck overnight and I missed it
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Today i learned that Fire Chain does not works on the Temple Defender.
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>>161064119
oh, no it couldn't. only had one morde and adras out then.
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Shadowverse
Rate this meme
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Trying to star things that might get nerfed at some point.
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>>161064286

I like that idea, but I've already dedicated my stars to all the Animated girls I own.
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Will we get the new expansion by christmas
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>>161064150
Take what I say at your own peril since I'm only B1

I can generally grind with them and either win or at least keep up if I can get some draw going with Soul Conversion. Themis isn't often an issue since Lord of the Flies and Death's Breath can help you stabilize. I feel like it depends on how early they can snowball with Elana honestly. I'd offer more insight on Storm Haven but I don't really play against it often for whatever reason. Try to avoid playing Hell's Unleasher on curve though, especially if you're on the play. Wait for those Evo points to run out, be on the look out for early Blackened Scriptures. If you're able to hit your Conversions the matchup will be a lot more bearable just by virtue of you having more options.
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>>161064286
>Vania
>getting nerfed
She's not a problem at all. Just an efficient minion.
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>>161064334
Probably.
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>>161063917

[panic]
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>>161064382
The world needs more Ononoki.
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I've yet to lose to dshift with this deck, shit's fun.
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>>161064417
The only reason she is balanced is because blood is otherwise shit.
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>Its me, Vania

What did she mean by this?
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>>161064505
"Time to take your dick out"
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>>161064505
She meant Vampy.
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>>161064481
She's perfectly balanced at gold level. She's just a combo-enabler.
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>>161064536
I want to fuck Vampy-chan.
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>>161064592
But what if she doesn't want to?
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>Japs think that a deck with 40% winrate is tier1
lmao
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>>161064582
A combo enabler shouldn't cost 2PP. And no, just because Roach exists means that's fine. Roach needs to be nerfed into the dirt as well.
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>>161064627
I'll rape her tenderly.
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>>161064640
If Vania is OP, then fucking Timeworn Mage Levi is too.

She's fine anon, easily removable, does nothing special immediately if played on curve, does extra later.
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If Shadowcraft is gonna get a 2-cost Gold follower, what would it do?
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>realized I missed Kripp's misadventures

So how hard did he fail at SV this time
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Can I get a concede
85605
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>>161064710
We need girl skeletons!
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>>161064710
all allied followers can only be destroyed, not banished for this turn.
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>>161064668
The one who will get tenderly raped is you, anon.
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>>161064710
2/2 last words summon a 1/1 skeleton
Evolve summon a 1/1 skeleton
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Which card would you have your first kiss with?
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>>161064640
You can't balance cards in a vacuum. You need to consider the context of what decks play the cards and how effective they are at doing so. Roach is overpowered because it enables an already powerful deck to go significantly further in terms of power, without Vania aggro blood wouldn't even exist, shes the only reason its run at all.

Basically. Vania isn't deserving of a nerf, even if she is "op" in a vacuum, because there doesn't exist any way in which you can run her that gives that deck an unfair amount of power. With roach, you certainly can. Which is why roach should be nerfed but Vania shouldn't.
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>>161064710
2/2, Fanfare: All your shadow gains are doubled for the turn it's played?
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>>161064710
Gane 1 shadow at the start of your turn
Heal for 1 everytime necro is used
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>>161064710
Fanfare: Gain 4 Shadows.
2/2
Evolve: Necromancy (4): Summon a Zombie.
4/4
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>>161064783
I approve of this.
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>>161064805
I will drown Vampy's lips with my saliva and later my cum.
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>>161064830
wew lad i like the idea but i think tht might just be a little bit too strong
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>>161064805
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>>161064710
2/2
Evolve
4/4 Fanfare: Add 2 Ghosts to your hand. Their cost is 0.
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>>161064725
Anyone?
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>>161064880
Will this kill the Anon?
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>>161064805
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>>161064895
It would be extremely painful.
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>>161064871
How about giving it the Spartoi ability instead of the Fanfare then?
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>>161064823
i like this one

on curve its worse than spartoi soldier and later in the game it has a reasonable bonus effect

should probably be 'shadows +1' rather than doubled so you can't abuse it too hard
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Dunno if anyone posted this yet but 1 hour maintenance planned next week for some kind of update which I assume is just for bugs.

https://shadowverse.jp/news/maintenance/news-0079
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>>161064889
Thank you
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Help with concede please
25203
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>>161064976
>hearthstone is a class-based collectible card game kin to Shadowverse /svg/
lmao how long have people been doing this
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>>161064952
>comparing a theoretical 2-drop to a 3 drop
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>Have competitive decks
>Have meme decks
>Meme decks keep losing but are more fun
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>>161064976
Are they really? I've only seen the "formerly /svgg/"
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>>161065013
Thanks!
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>>161065026
fuck me, i meant spartoi seargeant

arr spartois rook same
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>>161065045
That's why I spend so much time in unranked.
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https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.3.61O4A.61O4A.61O4A.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.61O4e.61O4e.66NA2.5-gka.5-gka.5-gka.5-gkk.5-gkk.5-gku.5-gku.5-gku.62UtQ.62UtQ.62UtQ.66IIA.66IIA.66IIA.62XK8.62XK8.62XK8.62bTS.62bTS.62bTS.62Uta.62Uta.62Uta.5-glM.5-glM.5-iRo.5-iRo.5-iRo.62Zm4.62Zm4.62Zm4

Some Jap masters is running a Emyllou Dshift deck
What's supposed to be good about this?
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>>161064710

2/2
Fanfare: All allied followers can't be damaged by spells and effects until the start of your next turn.
Whenever an allied Skeleton comes into play, deal 1 damage to the enemy leader.

Evolved:
4/4
Evolve: Summon a Skeleton. Put a Crimson Sorcery into your hand.
Whenever an allied Skeleton comes into play, deal 1 damage to the enemy leader.
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>>161065115
we can call it vampire princess levi the elf girl
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olivia is freaking overpowered
ONE card and the whole game changes around instantly... it's not very fair.
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>>161065115
>>161065170

Good lord.
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>>161065193
lol
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>>161064976
>>161065019
the memes, they've taken over
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>>161065193
If you can't even finish an opponent before turn 9 and you lose you Olivia you absolutely deserve it, it's a dead card most of the time and matches get finished before she's ever played.
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>>161065098
Probably just to empty your hand.
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>>161065193

(You)
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Explain
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>>161065267
Because DISCARD DRAGON.

Also altered fate I suppose.
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>>161065267
Draw a card, motherfucker.
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>>161065193
She's probably the best card in Take 2. But she's rarely played in ranked due to being to slow.
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Well, my first take two is going nice
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>>161065267
Some card effects will discard cards from your hand. If that happens to this card you draw a card.
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>>161065267
If you overdraw and burn this, are you gonna draw another card and burn that too?
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Post cards that terrify you.
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>>161065193
It costs 9 and all it gives you is more evolutions, still needs other cards to give you the win with it. It's shit senpai, other 9pp cards can actually win you the game.
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>>161063917
bullying elves is fun
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>>161065382
I'm afraid of what she may do to my dick.
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>>161065346
No because overdraw banishes the card, not discard it.
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>>161065382
Getting real Promised Neverland vibes over here.
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>>161065430

Pretty sure it discards it. I kept an eye on the Shadows count and it went up by 1 when it was overdrawn.
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>it's every second deck in B is mid elf episode
I'm sorry guys, I can't take this anymore. Time to embrace cancer has come.
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>>161065382
This fucking elf.
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>>161065489
What do you think can reliably beat elf?
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>>161065382
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>>161065517
Midsword.
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>>161065496
>Hey hey, wanna play?
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>>161065453
If that's true then the animation if lying to me.
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>>161065489
I honestly haven't seen any straight tempo/mid elves in ages, they're all ptp variants
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>>161065521
That's some alpha centauri shit
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>>161065521
that's my favorite
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>>161063917
Elf's smile and optimism: gone
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>>161065382
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>>161065570
Well, maybe 3 elves in 5 games is unfortunate streak, but that's as terrible of matchup for banner as it gets.
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>>161065568
Tia's modest boob window is so goddamn sexual.
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>>161065517
I've always found that both Forest variants are very easy pickings for Midrange Shadow.

Problem being that you're sacrificing a loooooooot of other match ups for it.
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>>161065642
Begone, tombkek.
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>mfw C0 beat A0+ with a taker of two flair
Rune beating swordfag.
I didnt even use any legendary either, just a bunch of conjure golem wards, one fire chain and flame witch. Nothing feels better than this.
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>>161065621
Is that a penis?
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>Play Haven
>No decision making
>every match is a literal coinflip

It really is brainless. I expected it to require some thought but nope, just pray you curve out.
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>>161064712
He PtP'd his way to a 13 game win streak.
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>>161065796
every aggro/face deck plays like that
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>Playing Haven
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>>161065784
every moutbreather can get into a0 thanks to winstreaks
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>>161065796
That only crafts that require thinking are Rune and Blood
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>>161065867
But i love playing Haven.
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>>161065895

It's a joke about Countdown Amulets
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>>161065867
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>>161065876
But getting the taker of two is a hard. I still havent won 4 in a row.
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>>161065307
i see her all the time A0 and it's a real issue because i'm playing control (badly admittedly), don't have her and often she turns the match.
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Who is this GenjiArmor dude and why does he have so many viewers?
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>>161065892
Both are brainless. Especially Rune.
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>mfw sooner or later ranked wins for every class will be dominated by rank d and c sandbaggers
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>>161065892
I second this except for the Rune part.
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>>161065965
Did Kripp give him a host?
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>>161065976
sites don't log anything below B (which they shouldn't log either)
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>>161065796
It's even worse than straight face decks because it automatically does a lot all the difficult parts of damage racing for you.
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>>161066013
He did.
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>>161065965
I forgot why I followed him but he's a mod in Kripps chat iirc
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Which craft requires the most heart
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>>161066009
You know rune can do PtP too right? Its nothing special.
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>>161063917
Here you go. This card is ass by the way.

>>161065796
Oh holy shit get over yourself.
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>>161066124
Those thighs are delicious, though.
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>Not playing Neutralcraft
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What about PtP like card that heals all allied characters for 6 after each turn?
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>guy's paid to play a game
>suddenly he become relevant
Huh?
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>>161065928
I need more WEG of Shadowverse
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>>161066185
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>>161066182
90% of this thread are hsg refugees
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>>161066161
Post all the curses if you can.
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>>161066182
Like, 70-80% of the thread are /hsg/ refugees.
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>>161066212
>>161066243
Well I, for one, have never played Heartstone.
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What should I be mulliganing for with midsword?
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>>161066182
Hate it as much as you want, but these e-celebs people on here sour grapes over so much are basically a necessity to get more people to play your game these days, so it's always exciting to see popular streamers do a commercial for a game you want more people to play.
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>>161066272
Good for you.
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>>161066290
a good curve

floral fencer going second
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>>161066296
Where did it all go so wrong.
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>>161066290
All sword 1-4s are the same
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>>161066221
Sadly, you can't view created cards.
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>>161066290
chemo
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>>161066296
It's exciting, anon?
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>log in
>get my daily log-in reward
>play to get the dailies done
>buy a pack and open it
>log out
Nice game shadowversetards
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>>161066296
Doesn't mean people here have to talk about him constantly.
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>>161066297
I never played it either, can you good for me as well?
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>>161066368
he probably means in the sense that it'll likely lead to more people playing the game.
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>>161066404
What's wrong with people talking about someone playing (or fucking up) the game?
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>>161066404
they dont, its literally just a few posts in this thread and the last, and thats because he was doing a sponsered stream
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>>161066418
He meant it in the sense of an excited kid seeing his favorite hot program being talked about.
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>>161066403
>log in
>see my dailies giving me a total of 60 gold
>replace 1
>70 gold
>log out
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>>161066415
You didn't miss out on anything, anon-sama!
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>>161066490
howd you read his mind like that?
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>>161066557
>He can't read mind
Enjoy staying in B rank
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>>161066524
I want to fill Vampy-chan up with so much semen that her belly bulges
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>>161066491
>>161066403
>log in
>free pack from log in bonus
>get a shiny gabriel
awwwwwwwwwwww ye
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>>161066606
Wait until i'll call the police then.
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>>161066606
Vampy is not for sexual!
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>>161066606
Yeah, well, can't have everything in life
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>>161066637
Then why is her body so lewd?
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>>161066637
Yes, she's for killing. CALL THE WITCH HUNTERS. BY SIGMAR WE MUST MURDER THIS ABOMINATION.
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These /jp/-tier posts are getting old.
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>>161066694
Neckbeards, sir. They are going rampant.
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>>161066694
You haven't seen real /jp/ yet.
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>>161066637
Her and Luna are both for sexual.
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>>161066757
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>>161066783
>>
>Draft shit classes
>Draft shit cards on top of it
>Still have to play the five games
Kill me
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>>161066849
You can quit the arena without playing a single game and collect your free pack.
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>>161066884
How
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>>161066903
press quit in the t2 menu
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>>161066290

Elf
Vanguard/Goblin, 2 drops, 3 drops if you have a 2. Aurelia going first, Floral going second. Otomeme going first if 2>3 is available

Mirror
Swing, Vanguard/Goblin, 2drops, 3 drops if you have a 2(trooper preferably). Aurelia going first, Floral going second. Otomeme going first if 2>3 is available

Rune
Mull for dshift. 1>2>3 drops. Floral going second, Otomeme going first if 2>3 is available

Dragon
Mull for aggro
Swing, 1 drops only if going first, 2 drops, 3 drops if you have a 2. Aurelia going first, Floral going second

Shadow
Mull for aggro, control is almost unwinnable
Swing, 1 drop only if going first, 2 drops, 3 drops if you have a 2. Aurelia going first, Floral going second

Blood
Mull for aggro
Vanguard/Goblin, Swing, 2 drops, 3 drops if you have a 2. Aurelia going first, Floral going second

Haven
1Drops Quickblader preferred, 2 drops, 3 drops if you have a 2, Floral fencer first or second. Otomeme if you have a 2-3 or 1-2
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>keep one of two wind god in hand
>draw second one within three turns
>mulligan wind god
>never draw it

really fires up those neurons
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>>161066973
what rank are you at my dude
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>>161067020
Masters
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>>161066973
Thanks Anon, this was way more than I was expecting.
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Here's a challenge: Design a card based on this card art. Includes class, rarity, cost, etc.
:^) have fun
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>>161067123
id rather not
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>>161067123
Whoops, forgot the art.
Name: Mister Moon
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T2 is fun
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>>161067216
Wait a minute, that card...
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>>161067216
probably does something racist

hopefully against elves
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>>161067365
How are you moot?
>>
32545
Send help.
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>>161067378
>hopefully against elves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjHclWPVij0
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Fun fact of the day: Pious fox was originally a card in Rage of Bahumut called "Priestess of the Moon"
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>>161067470
It's gay, right?
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>>161067470
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Bow before Dork Dragoon, rule of the sky!
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>play unranked
>first opponent is a Heavenfag with shitload of meta cards
Just go in ranked
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How far can aggrobats take me in ranked?
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>>161067626
probably like Asomething
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>>161067216
>>161067365
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>>161067626
>How far can aggrobats take me in ranked?
A3 maybe AA2
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>>161067573
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>People play hot garbage decks
>Switch to a deck that isn't hot garbage
>WOW THIS DECK IS SO BRAINLESS
Every damn time

>>161067580
Maybe he wanted to get quests done with a deck he doesn't normally play?
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>>161067407
... anons?
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>having 5 of one card in T2
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>>161067407
>>161067763
Thank you, Urias.
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Stop me
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>>161067963
Do you really want to be a dork, anon?
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>>161067963
I'm not stopping you.

I won't stop you either if it's Vampy or Garuda.
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>>161067573
This is Dork Dragoon, the rule of the sky. All craftsdemonship is of the highest quality.
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>>161067216
Havencraft. Silver Rarity.

3 for a 2/2.
Last Words: Summon a "Dawn" Amulet.

Dawn Amulet
Countdown 1
Last Words: Summon a "Noon" Amulet

Noon Amulet
Countdown 1
Last Words: Summon a "Dusk" Amulet

Dusk Amulet
Countdown 1
Last Words: Summon a "Mister Moon".

Basically like this asshole.
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>>161067992
Rowen's pretty dorky too.
Tough I don't Forte in either of my Dragon decks so I'd feel like a fraud using her.

>>161067996
I don't play Blood and Eris is best girl so I have no interest in those two.
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Nice
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>>161067963
I bought her and I don't even play dragons in ranked. Only see her in T2 and for the cute, dorky cardback.
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just started playing today how do i know when im good enough to start dueling people
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>>161063917
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>>161068129
Technically immediately but I recommend doing some of the campaign first, it gives cards that you can't craft that are essential to decks.
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>Elana havens
>not being complete piles of steaming shit
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>>161068121
what
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>>161068194
Doing the God's work anon.
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Holy shit, i want to FUCK Vampy with my Swordcraft.
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remove elf
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>>161066161
>>161066221
>>161066339
Arch Bloodmage carried me for months in RoB, it's really a shame she'll likely never be good enough to see use here.
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nice "balance"
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New leaders when
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>>161068263

beautiful.

You are doing great work luna brother.

favourite shadowcraft card?

inb4 same as mine fav: tyrant
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>>161065098
pretty common for me atleast when i play DShift to end up 2 or 4 damage short of killing, so maybe it's for that?
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>>161068412
Once your mother is actually proud of you.
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>>161068456
>favourite shadowcraft card?
That award would have to go Cerberus.
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>>161063807
How to fix this shit game

General

All amulets that have effects have a limited duration (2-3 turns)


>Haven

>garuda deals 1 to 3 damage depending on how much it discounted from an amulet if it didnt then it deals 0 damage
>Aria summons 2 2/2 hawks instead of the tiger
>Flame tiger changed to 4pp
>Seraph is no longer an amulet its a 0/20 Follower that cannot be affected by anything other than healing and follower damage
>Themis requires to sacrifice one of your dudes if there are not a single dude in play the card cannot be played

>Sword
>Every 2 officers in play all officer cards cost increases by 1
>Every commander in play increases the cost of other commander by 1
>New cards could introduce exceptions to these
>To prevent the mindless retarded aggro


>Forest
>Literally rebalance the entire class its fucking stupid they have the best of everything
>Roaches "Burrow" after attacking and can't be targeted by spells or effects of any kind
>PTP needs to be in play for the shadows to count
>if it gets destroyed it doesn't matter they get stored so if you play other amulet it still counts


>Dragon
>This class is lame as shit
>All attack immune creatures are only immune for the following turn except for forte who can live 2 turns
>All the 5< storm cards like the retarded 7/9 dragon have rush instead of storm

>Shadow
>Breath summons 2 taunts instead of 3 cost reduced to 5pp
>Cerberus only gives one spell that deals 2 damage and gives +1+1 to an allied follower after it deals damage gives 2 shadows
>Howl cannot be buffed by spells but can be used as sacrifice for resurrection or offering
>Can choose when to use or not the shadow mechanic by clicking on the counter
>Early followers effect cost reduced cause they are literally cannon fodders as of now
>more shadow effects for mid tier followers like cost less for x shadows, can resurrect for x amount of shadows, summons additional death rattle effect etc
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>>161068456
The finest

I don't like Death Tyrant though, combo decks like that get old quickly.
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I think i will like the forest deck combos
Liza effect doesn't protect from Banish and i learnt it the hard way
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>>161068505
What's the point of this post? It's like you're trying to burn him but there's no reason to in the context and it's not particularly funny or clever.
>>
how to balance PtP

Instead of 30 shadows make it so it only procs when you have 10 cards left
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>>161068569
>Rune
>Dshift cannot be used the same turn you summon followers
>Second dshift in a row doesn't recharge crystals
>all guardian cards cost 3 mana to play instead of 3 to prevent lmao turn 6 3x 3/3 which is even better than shadow
>Pascal gives 2+2 instead of doubling or only doubles the stats of a single dude

o also

>Sword again
>Otohime guards are 1/1 instead of 1/2
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>>161068569
you forgot to remove rune from the game
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>>161068569
>All amulets that have effects have a limited duration (2-3 turns)
I feel like you think this nerf Elana without realizing it nerfs Rune, Blood and Shadow the most
>>
>reading some C rank shitter's wall of text
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>>161068691
Rune can be an exception since it relies on them but elana flute and the rest are fucking stupid specially in take two. The first player to get one of those amulets on play gets such a massive advantage
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>>161068569
What crawled up your ass?
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>>161068685
>Dshift cannot be used the same turn you summon followers
Might as well remove the card
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THERE IS
A CONCEDE BUTTON
BUILT IN
THIS MOTHERFUCKING GAME
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>>161068789
Better yet then

Fuck that retarded card. Better to force them to play the game and use dshift as a late game finisher instead of the turn 8 i win u card
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>>161068864
Turn 8 is late game tough, what's the issue?
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>>161067626
Master
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>>161068864
>Better to force them to play the game and use dshift as a late game finisher
That's what the fuck it is you salty ass blood baby.
>>
>C rank thinks his opinions matters
>>
Dshift is now an amulet that procs at the start of your next turn.

>Make Execution great again
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>>161068685
>nerfing pascal
>which requires an insane amount of setup to even get her effect off
>while being in an inferior meme deck
Gonna nerf Tyrant too?
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wat
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>>161069053
TYRANT
MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK
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>>161069053
get fucking memed on kid
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>>161068931
>Turn 8 is lategame
>8

>>161068946
No its not lategame is 10 and on

Dshift is faggot shit that can only be beaten by aggro which makes rune spells not be enough

All the dshift games are decided by drawing RNG and nothing else it should be that card they have the whole game and play it satan style

its fucking stupid

>>161069003
>Insane amount of setup
>Literally drop a fucking earth rite
>wait one turn
>Play 2 fucking golems and fucking pascale
>not to mention you lmao curse the board

What merit does it have to play one broken card and instantly wins the game if the other player doesn't have something that nukes the entire board?

Its fucking stupid
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>>161069053
Take that, Havenshitter
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>>161069053
meme'd the fuck out.
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>>161069102
>doubling 3/3s
WOW!
WIN CONDITIONS!
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>>161068262
I just fuck up a sword guy with my bats, so I think the reverse is more accurate.
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>>161069164
I need to get on pixiv.
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>>161068569
>>161069132
>15 minutes without lewds
This isn't the /svg/ I know and love.
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>>161068756
Balance shouldn't be made around Take Two. Flute is a shit card outside Take Two and you have to make your entire deck around it to make it work, if you make it limited then it's pretty much unuseable. A limited Burial Grounds would be fucking worthless and nobody would run it when you could just use any other card that gives shadow. A limited Conjuring Force would need precise timing to make it work so it might as well be a spell instead of an amulet if it would be limited.
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>>161069206
Sorry.
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>>161069132
>Drop everything one turn
>opponent has or not retarded broken card which is only there cause the retarded broken shit
>If he doesnt he auto loses
>The player who played the cards did jack shit to deserve winning other than having drew the card
>If he does then he uses it and then begs you dont have any other auto win shit
>And if you dont he plays the auto win shit
>This makes the game garbage and too rock paper scissory which results in the ladder being a painfully experience where you see the EXACT same decks game after game

>>161069210
Doesn't matter its fundamentally broken and retarded the moment something enables it it will become cancer its fucking stupid
>>
>>161068684
>be me
>Dragoncraft daily
>be no other than dragon
>Rites amulet in field
>2 Trail of Light, 6 cards total in hand
>play Wilfang
>altered fate 2x
>Dragonewt Fist
>draw the Reaper
PtP is too casual for dragon.
>>
>>161065098
>>161068484
She's also good against aggro without having to run too many Levis who competes for evolve points with Merlin and potentially just becomes a 2/2/2 that doesn't spell boost.

From the GameAI article:

>Until now, if you went second and the opponent played a follower from turn 1 to 4 every turn, it was near impossible to remove the 1 cost follower. Emmylou is a card that can change that, she can create a board state where it becomes easy to play Merlin in turn 4. Because I value that I run three of her.
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>>161069102
>I don't know what win conditions are
Stay mad and jack off to more loli shit, Bloodbaby

>>161069206
Don't make me post vore nigger
>>
>>161069227
s-sauce image searches aren't turning up with anything
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>>161069248
>Flute is a shit tier card but it's fundamentally broken
What did he mean by this
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>>161069102
>>161068569
How to spot a shitter, /svg/ edition.
>thinks he can balance the game
>his ideas evolve around killing entire classes or decks archetypes
>TURN 8 IS NOT LATE-GAME
>despite crying about late-game dragon drops
>probably can not draft in arena
>somehow thinks a meme card is nerfworthy
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do your part
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>>161069094
>>161069101
>>161069112
>>161069123

Guys i only played dragon before i got this budget garuda deck, you have to be understanding of my situation here. I DON'T HAVE A SINGLE FORTE WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME I JUST WANT TO WIN
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>>161069324
what is that
I want to know more
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>>161069248
>being retarded
>>
>>161069276
Okay but why the trail?
>>
>>161069248
>This makes the game garbage and too rock paper scissory which results in the ladder being a painfully experience where you see the EXACT same decks game after game
Nigga there's like 8 people that play Earth Rune
>>
>>161069053
Is that no other than yourself playing Haven?
>>
>>161069339
steam award coming at Gabe store
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>>161069324
Ill think about it if they kill Priest.
>>
>>161068337
I could see it becoming a tech if a traditional control variant, or traditional control in general become more viable.

It's PP inefficient but advantage efficient, which doesn't play well with any of the current builds but might be useful in a world where Rune wants to last to turn 10 instead of turn 8.
>>
>>161069334
I don't want anything from you anon. I just pointed out you got meme'd the fuck out. Have a laugh and keep farming until you can afford to craft Fortes.
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>mfw just got bodied by arisa in luna's story 3 times in a row
>>
>>161068938
>bats getting you all the way to master

got a deck code for a master caliber bats deck?
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>>161069324
I did.
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>>161069309
>FREE Evolved dudes with rush which cost 2 pp

>>161069312
How to spot a bunch of non arguments
>Making the cards more close in power level so that different playstyles and more card become viable is bad
>Players should be able to bring someone from 20-15 HP to 0 in one turn with nothing but a broken card combination that requires no input or thought from their part
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>>161069334
>I DON'T HAVE A SINGLE FORTE
Play Dragon the way it was meant to be played
>>
>>161069460
>spellbook decryption
what did he mean by this
>>
>>161069460
>
>
>
lol
>>
will they ever add more story chapters
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>>161069449
This one I had to think about for a little while, but it's a good one trust me.
Become proficient
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>>161069449
How to spot a fucking scrub ass Bloodbaby
>Proposes killing entire decks and classes with asinine suggestions
>Bloodcraft is conspicuously missing from his long-winded list of punk ass suggestions
Yeah whatever nigga
>>
>>161068684
Having it proc at the beginning of the turn might help too.
That way there's more risk in using it.
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>>161069334
She is unneeded stop following meme netdecks
>>
>>161069371
>The deck is not inherently cancerous because the other shit is more cancerous

>>161069543
>>161069552
How to spot non arguments
>>
>>161069543
Quick Reply - Git Gud
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>>161069552
Please post more Ougi!
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>>161069497
>Put all my dragons
>Enemy wipes board
>Only draw one dragon per turn
I need some draw power
>>
>>161068398
nice "sample size"
>>
@161069582
no more (you)s for you
>>
>there are people who actually play against earth rune

why

why not just slam your dick in a car door?
>>
>>161069604
Yeah, but not fucking spellbook decryption. Use a Scholar or something.
>>
>>161069531
To be continued™
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>>161069612
this argument doesn't work when it's the same for almost every single deck in the game
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>>161069630
It's not like I have full control over what my opponent plays.
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>>161069604
>Only draw one dragon per turn
discard dragon
>>
>>161069354
Trail has been pretty popular lately in master rank DShift decks in general, just because another 2 cost card that spell boosts and draws helps to get the DShift combo off earlier, especially if you would run a slow card like Fire Chain instead. It also makes the deck better in the mirror match.

For that deck especially it's another card that can spellboost Emmylou early to get her out for 0 cost as soon as possible against aggro. I guess running 3 golems and 1 trail or 2 Emmylous would be fine too.
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>>161069582
You don't get it, I don't have to discuss anything with you because the game will never be changed the way you want it to. I pointed out that you're a shitter and moved on. That's all I wanted out of this conversation.
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>>161069582
Acquire Ability
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>>161069676
>>161069269
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>>161069669
yeah but conceding will make you lose just as many points as playing through entirely

i hate playing against that deck as anything besides haven because its the only deck with good removal for all those conjured golems and pascal
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>>161069636
I can't, it gets turned into a dragon
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>>161069630
I don't play brainless aggro shit and my deck actually can fight a gimmick deck that does nothing but shit out wards
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>>161069752
>>161069756
O look more non arguments

So how is the game going to be ? release broken legens and gold cards people are going to buy pack en mass to get at the cost of the game enjoyment cause nips and asians are literal drones?
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>>161069756
But you can only Acquire artifacts...
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>>161069816
then play a better deck
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Why doesn't this card see more play in aggro blood? Its 1 mana deal 4 damage to the enemies face
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>>161069818
>you hate it because you're aggro

:^)

so what decks do well against earth rite my man
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>>161069836
>That's not how you should play that deck
>Actually it is, here's why
>Well you should play a different deck
I never asked for advices in the first place
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>>161069276
Having both Emyllou and Fiery Embrace which slows down Merlin pulls seems like a bad idea though
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>>161069824
That card seems like a Priest's wet dream.
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>>161069837
Because you only have 5 spaces on the board and 1 of them is going to be vamp fortress and you might draw it when you really need a follower it gets outclassed by everything
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>>161069816
Petrification?!
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>>161069837
>run into another aggro anything deck
>suddenly its an empty draw, or can speed up them killing yourself

that gold one, dire pact, was it? is a hell of alot better, since you're still healing back two hp per turn
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Where can I find the JP sound bits for the cards? I've seen people post them here, where are they getting them from?
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>>161069837
Because it's also 4 damage to your face.
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>>161069938
I've lost games because I couldn't stop their wincon or because my dragons got wiped and I couldn't refill, but I've yet to had anyone take care of Dragonsong Flute herself
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>>161064976
>we have Vampy's smug look and soft lips
>hsg has some 3d girl
should be obvious which is the better game
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>>161069960
There's a undub guide in the op, you can probably find them there.
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>>161069630
I played a Haven with Earth Rune last night,

kaleidoscoped no less than 3 Beastcall Arias with 1 cooldown remaining.

Petrified all 3 of his Elanas.

Banished a field of 5 no less than twice.

Won with sneak backdoor PtP.
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>>161069968
Why is Blood such a fucking meme? It's not even good against iself, Jesus fuck, just revamp the class already, or scrap it and give us something actually interesting to play instead. It's a complete fucking waste of a slot class right now, and only sees play thanks to Vampy (literally the card itself, and as a character).
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>>161065098
>>161069276
That guy is the first Rune player that got to master rank by the way.
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>>161070026
But I love memes.
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>>161070004
Nigga those are the same files I have in my game. I don't need to undub, I need to listen to the actual audio files in a format that doesn't need some bullshit obscure 3rd party tool to extract the audio from whatever fucking format the game uses.
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>>161070026
HOW TO FIX BLOOD

VENGEANCE BECOMES ACTIVE WHEN YOU TAKE 2+ DAMAGE IN YOUR OWN TURN and nerf some of the vengeance effects
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>>161070063
post dick
looks like fucking fun deck to me
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>>161070063
>Play a shit class
>Only win due to a neutral card anyone can use
Shit meme desu
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>>161070094
iunno then, they probably use some bullshit obscure 3rd party tool to find the bits.
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>>161070119
What about this meme? I'm meming on try hards with Soul Dealer + Laura 8 damage combo on turn 7.
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How the fuck you even win as Seraph Haven when against Dshift??????????
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>>161070181
Now that's a good meme
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>>161070203
lmao haven
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I would like to see cards like "If vengeance is not active for you, this card costs health instead of mana" in Blood.
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Too unfocused? I have no dragon legendaries. C0 rank.
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>>161070203
rely on a win condition besides seraph

or hope
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>>161070203
This is your seraph tonight
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>>161070203
You don't, stupid frogposter.
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>>161070203
You'll never win with pure Seraph. You gotta flood the board with Elana buffed followers for a chance of winning that match up. Mainyu is great in general, but especially shines against solitaire and PtP.
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>>161070203
you can't unless they get really bad draws and you manage to get seraph and 3 triggers
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>>161070040
So how is he actually doing with that deck in masters now?
It's curious because these posts usually have a sample set of games played with them at least.
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>Soul Dealer
>Fanfare: vengeance is active for 2 turn if this follower is in play.

Hire me team 5
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>>161070269
>really bad draws
D.Shift is the most consistent deck in the game. The only "bad draws" it gets, is the wrong type of removal for the stage of the game. They will always have the kill combo on 9 guaranteed if they're not retards, or built a retarded deck. Masters players went back to using the Trails list to guarantee the turn 7 or 8 lethal. Other combo decks simply can't beat it, unless they have a broken card like the le balanced insect of storms and combos, which they don't.
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>>161070362
>D.Shift is the most consistent deck in the game
caution needs
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>>161070362
shit can always happen, and the 2 out of 10 games that haven wins it probably does
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>>161070231
I would add some Ivory Dragon and Sky Dragon Ethica if you have them.
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>>161070109
Sure thing. I have two variants, the first one is more control blood-esque and focus more on drawing power and altered fate to gain shadows while also trying not to get yourself killed.
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.6.63dOW.63dOW.61NLI.61NLI.61NLI.61QWQ.61QWQ.61QWQ.5_pzw.5_pzw.63e74.63e74.63e74.67SGY.67SGY.67WfK.67WfK.63dO-.63dO-.63dO-.63ilo.63ilo.63ilo.61Q1A.61Q1A.61Q1A.5_rhS.5_rhS.63iH0.63iH0.63gZA.63gZA.61O4U.61O4U.63kio.63kio.65GMy.63i_a.63i_a.63i_a

The second variant is cheaper since it's pseudo aggro bat, you feed bats and trade with the opponent until you gain enough shadows and drop your PtP down. I call this variant Bats to Purgatory
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.6.63dOW.63dOW.63dOW.67UiU.67UiU.61NLI.61NLI.61NLI.61QWQ.61QWQ.61QWQ.63dOg.63dOg.5_pzw.5_pzw.5_pzw.63e74.63e74.63e74.67WfK.67WfK.67WfK.63dO-.63dO-.67RXC.67RXC.61Q1A.61Q1A.61Q1A.5_rhS.5_rhS.63gZA.63gZA.63gZA.61Pni.63kio.63kio.63i_a.63i_a.63i_a

Pick your poison.
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>>161069905
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>>161070181
We posting memes?
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https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.6.5zWm2.5zWm2.63dOW.63dOW.63dOW.63fr4.63dOg.63dOg.63dOg.67WPs.67WPs.67WPs.5_pzw.5_pzw.5_pzw.5_p-4.5_p-4.5_p-4.63e74.63e74.63e74.67WfK.67WfK.61O4K.61O4K.63dO-.63dO-.63dO-.63fqc.63fqc.67RXC.67RXC.67RXC.63gZA.63gZA.63gZA.61Pni.61Pni.659nE.659nE#

I know theres like fifty blood players in here

please rate my aggro blood deck, what can I change/add whatever

Pretend the gobbies are cursebrand vampires
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Hey guys, I installed this game a few days ago, played through some of the campaigns and had fun, decided to get serious about it and started looking up online guides.

Currently deciding whether it's worth it for me to reroll. Here's what I have currently as far as legendaries. Seems pretty bad but then I'm not exactly sure what a 'good' roll would look like.
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>>161070552
Yes
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>>161070574
not going to lie to you dude were it not for the Tia that'd be an almost comically bad list of legendaries

Tia is top tier
Bloody mary is the win con for a shit deck (control blood)
Pascale is the big hitter for a shit deck (earth runecraft)
Zirnitra is universally garbage
SKULLFAM is universally garbage
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>>161070231
Remove Orb dragon, dread dragon, shenlong,imprioned dragon,grim reaper,dragon counsel,serpent force,goblim demon

+Ivory Dragon
+Goblin
+Unica
+Mushushu(this thing is op my friend)
+Dragon wings
+1 dragon emissary
+dragon scale dragon
+demonic strike
+siegfried
And Finally if you have the chance Forte she is the key card to make
this deck good.


My deck in the pic is not something really refined but can help you as a base.
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>>161070574
Also if it matters here's my golds. (not shown: Leonidas, Dimension Shift, Polyphonic Roar)
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>>161070574
These are kinda average, post golds. Maybe they'll salvage it, if you already got a class you liked you can reroll until you get some stuff for that class as well.
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>>161070570
Either use Midnight Vampire or Wind God, don't be greedy. Add some Imp Lancers or Alucard. Reduce your Mini Soul Devil to two, you won't need her that much. Add some burn cards like Demonic Strike or Demonic Storm. You may want to reduce one Blood Pact.
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>>161070620
What should I be looking for? I'm planning on being a F2P player for the most part (might spend a few dollars here or there but nothing serious) so looking at some cards that could maybe get me started with one of the budget decks. Seems like the Swordcraft banner deck is a popular budget choice and I do like the Swordcraft deck out of all the ones I've tried just playing through the campaign, but I'm not sure I want to pigeon-hole myself this early.
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>>161070709
Banner sword ins't that much of a commitment anyways, make one and maybe pick some cheap decks for other classes like aggro blood and storm haven. If you have the cards aggro dragon is a pretty good deck for beginners too (but it's moderately priced), while boasting a pretty good win rate.
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>Runecraft player
>summons a gazillion snowmen each turn while spellboosting his snowman spells using draw spells
>double PtP on turn 8
Fuck.
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>>161070429
Yeah i got them. I feel like i don't have enough/good enough high PP cards to use the PP advantage. The win con feels too weak but maybe it's a matchup problem with all the havenhags too. I have a couple of golds like polyphonic x2, neptune, phoenix roost and dracomancers rites but i'm not sure if they would help here. Maybe a fafnir would add some sting.
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[skeletons intensify]
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Who is your favourite Elf follower!
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>>161071165
Swordcraft, every time
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>>161070574
Is this better? (1/2)
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>>161071174
Either Liza or Cynthia.
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We could unify /hsg/ /svg/ and duelyst
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>Runebitch petrifies my flute
>Spellbook Decryption gets me another one right away
Out-fucking-meme'd
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>>161070709
Banner sword : 3 gold
Aggro blood : 5-6 gold
Aggro dragon : 3 legendary, 2-3 gold
Aggro shadow : 3 legendary, 0-3 gold

Spending for the onetime crystal deal is kinda worth it.
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So what's the purpose of Elf Wanderer?Sure it's nice to have the ability to bypass wards but i think there are better 2 drops which bring a lot more.
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>>161071174
The dead ones
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>>161071223
2/2
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>>161071301
But dead ones gives them shadows to activate PtP
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>>161070574
I would try out some cheap decks with each craft to see what you like the most then try to reroll some good legendaries for the one(s) you like since making the legendaries from vials is extremely expensive. You get 1000 vials from melting one legendary, and creating one from scratch costs 3500. Now look at the price for buying new packs with cash. I didn't care about these things when i started and now i'm in a position where i've blown like 60 euro on the game and have ZERO legendaries for my favorite craft, and obviously i'm hesitant to reroll since i've invested real money (not that i like juggling several accounts in the first place though. Honestly this info should be in every OP.
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Stories to tell my friends
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>>161071310
Not really, unless you want to somehow play control blood.
I think I can make a list of good legendaries by class, give me a few.
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>>161071389
fuck off with that shit already
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>>161071129
Phoenix Roost is shit and Dracomancer's Rites only work in a deck completely focused on discarding. You could try the other two if you want but a budget deck like that will always be slightly unfocused and Dragoncraft is weak at the moment so don't fret over it too much. Keep in mind having high PP isn't just for the PP but for the Overflow and some decks are made with lots of draw power and low-cost cards so they can keep filling the board with low-cost cards. Important part is to find something to focus on so your deck works together.
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>>161071223

>Vampiric Fortress
>Vania

Time to hit that liquefy extras button and win every game on turn 5 boy.

Also get that dosh from those skullfane and Zirnitra.
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>>161071223
>>161071310
Good for Blood but Blood is weak.
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>already faced 2 control bloods in my ranked matches
Fight on bloodbros.
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>>161071389

Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong thread.

/hsg/ is two pages down.
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>>161071385
Ah, I completely missed the "reforge" mechanic. Since I've already played the game a bit, would it be worthwhile for me to just keep my crappy roll with junk legendaries, since I can melt them down to make legendaries I'll actually like later on? As it stands it looks like I have 1 good legendary, plus enough junk to make 2 other good legendaries, which seems about as much as I could hope for from a good "fresh" roll.
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>>161070634
Problem is i have no forte and without that the deck falls apart, the fortes are the only win con. I have to work around having no dragon legendaries.
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>>161071389
Why is this game so ugly
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Did the new expansion, Darkness Evolved, introduced any new mechanics that wasn't present at first?
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Need a surrender pls

42910
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>>161071490
blame whoever decided to put /hsg/ in the OP of this thread and /svg/ in the op of the hearthstone thread, I constantly click on the wrong thread when I CTRL+F (especially on mobile)
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tfw you shit on havencrap with earth rite
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>>161071576
Rush, and an alternate wincon.
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>>161071480
One day our time will come once again.
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Should I put in Bran?
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>>161071584

Thanks based swamp german
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>>161071450
>Time to hit that liquefy extras button and win every game on turn 5 boy.

WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY THIS ABOUT BLOOD AGGRO BATS

MY DECK IS NEVER THAT CONSISTENT

I NEVER WIN BY TURN 5

POST YOUR FUCKING BLOOD BAT DECKS THAT ARE SO GOOD THEN RIGHT
N O W
O
W
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>>161071658
>swamp german
Hey what the h*ck man
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>>161071649
There's not really a reason to do it.
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>>161071663
I'm not the same guy but i'm in the A rank and is really common to me win before t5
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I am looking at ratings of forest cards and Harvest Festival is listed as a 2PP.Has it been nerfed to 4PP in one patch?
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>>161071682

is joke
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>>161071834
yes
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>>161071663
>Not winning by turn 4.
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>Win 1 game with Shadow
>haven't even finished their Story mode
F-fuck.
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cards that destroy amulets should instead banish them
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>>161071798
Thanks. Just out of curiosity, do your cursebrands ever actually trigger their vengence effect? I'd rather not drop 600 vials on making three of them when I could just use gobbies
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>>161071957
Most likely not, gobbys are fine I think
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>>161071798
>no imp lancers
This is pretty bad meme.
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>>161071950
But then Haven would actually have something that Hard counters them
We can't have that now can we?
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>>161070181
Hey, I think you beat me yesterday
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>tfw Elanafag plays one heal after another with 2x Elanas on the board that leaves them with a combined total of 22/17 stats across the board but it's all for naught because you have lethal and they can't wipe enough of your followers off the board to survive till the next turn
Get fucked you old hag.
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>>161071536
Rerolling until you get one legendary you want would be VERY resource-effective if you can bother with it. Otherwise you would likely need to melt all other legendaries you get just to get what you want (just think about the lost vial value). If you reroll into a legendary you want, you can melt one of the bad ones and use the vials for silvers and golds instead which are arguably more important than legendaries (obviously depends on the deck though). Also do notice that apart from the 40 something packs you get after the tutorials, there is a shitload of packs you get very early from the story missions and various achievments. The game is actually pretty generous with packs, the only reason i blew real money on the game is because of my own laziness with my initial legendaries.
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Blood sucker? More like Dick Dominator!
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>>161071994
Dork General does more damage than imp lancers and you're very often in vengeance mode since people aren't cautious about getting you down to it at all since vengeance sucks.
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>>161071957
Rarely they trigger but is better to have a 2 3 if i fucked up and don't finnish the duel before t5

>>161071994
Imp lancers cost 6 mana orb it's not possible to win in t5 with that.
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>>161071223
>>161071310
>>161071403

Formating is going to suck, but here it is
Tier 1 means REALLY GOOD CARDS that you should keep. Tier 2 means used in some tech slots or very specific decks (aside from neutral, since they're most tech anyway)
>Forest
1. Ancient Elf, Tia
Not really used: Fairy Princess, Thorn Queen
>Sword
1. Otohime, Tsubaki, Aurelia
2. Alexander
>Rune
1. Merlin
Not really used: Pascale, Mythril Golem, Erasmus
>Dragon
1. Forte
2. Zirnitra
Not really used: Fafnir, Dragonsong Flute
>Shadow
1. Cerberus, Lord of the Flies
Not really used: Pluto (Pluto can be a tech card but I've never seen it outside of arena), Lord Atomy
>Blood
1. Queen Vampire, Bloody Mary
Not really used: Beast Dominator, Soul Dealer
>Haven
1. Enstatued Seraph, Moon Al-mi'raj
Not really used: Jeanne D'Arc, Skullfane
>Neutral
1. Olivia, Odin
2. Lucifer
Not really used: Prince of Darkness (aside from some Seraph decks), Gabriel.

I can do a run down on golds as well but it's going to take a bit more time.
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There's no deck that runs 3 Olivias, right?
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>>161072087
Stop
Vampy is Chaste
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>>161072087
what is she doing to that forest bat??
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>>161072027
Where is this from?
Is this like Blazblue radio?
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>>161071950
>>161072001
That would completely destroy Haven. The overpowered amulets should be reworked individually, not applying a bandaid patch that makes them useless.
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>>161072163
Does this look like the face of someone who is chaste?
>>161072184
She's taking care of her bloodkin.
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>>161072127
All blood legends are t2 by that scale since blood legends are a joke
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>>161072132
There's not deck that runs Olivia period.
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>no "post ur user card" post

POST UR USER CARD

A0 soon
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>>161072261
>t.cuck below Rank AA
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>>161072197
Shadowverse Radio
Yes
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>>161072264
>UR
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>give firest a bunch of "shit" 3pp and 5pp cards
>to balance it out we give them 10/10 cards so you can use them in every deck
This is a big problem.
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>>161072391
shh we don't talk about op crafts here unless it's haven
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Who is the Reimu of Shadowverse?
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>Better than the original-tier
Forte, Mordecai
>OK alternative-tier
Garuda
>Not sure why but whatever-tier
Selwyn, Erasmus
>What are you doing-tier
The swordcraft guy
>Unsufferable emote-spamming faggot-tier
Vania

I would normally invite people to discuss that in all courtesy, but since this is hard, scientific fact, this would be as useful as discussing if the Earth's round or not.
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Post your class.
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>>161072127
I want someone to make an edit of that laughing image except with Floral Fencer and the Steelclad knight and regular knight that she summons.
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>>161072448
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>>161072445
t. Hagchaser
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>>161072448
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>>161072445
Show me on the dolly where the bad bad Vampy player touched you
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>>161072445
What's the matter? Can't handle best girl?
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>>161072497
kek
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>>161072448
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>getting Satan online in T2
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>>161072571

needs that with Insight -> Conjure Golem -> Sorcery cache -> Merlin -> Dimension Shift.
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>>161072410
Sure those 10/10 cards are OP but if you nerf them reasonably or perhaps too hard then forest shits itself under the pile of undercosted and generally shit cards.
Though with the new expansion some cards/combos may become actually viable.
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>>161072448
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>>161072448
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>>161072676
>>161072686
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>>161072448
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Luna wants to play with Uncle Anon.
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>>161072448
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>>161072749
>tfw you will never play House with Luna
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>>161072448
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I propose we ban everyone who posts oppai Luna.
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>>161072749
I make friend with Luna's child pussy!
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>>161072749
I'm actually an uncle, and I feel bad that this is so appealing.
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>>161072448
Can't think of any spicy dragon-craft memes.
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>>161072448
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>>161072448
Not Dragon
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>>161072826
>I propose we ban everyone who posts [...] Luna.
Agreed
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Control flute is fun!
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>>161072938
So this is the Dork's backstory.
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>>161072448
Guess the class
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>beating people who drafted Olivia in take 2 without having one yourself.

best feeling
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>>161073013
Dork is just a cosplayer with fake horns.
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>>161072127
Fafnir is used pretty often in ramp, especially over Zirnitra.
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>>161072448
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>>161072938
Did she kill her own mother, or did she die naturally some time later?
I can't really tell if there is meant to be a time skip before the last panel. Is she older, or is it just the dress that deceives me?
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>>161072997
>flute
>control
How?
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>>161073017
Fuck you Eris.
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>>161072938
Source?
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>>161073162
By being in a really low rank.
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>>161072448
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>dude summons a dragon which drops his hand and gets 1/1 for each
>he has a card out that draws one for each discarded
>lose instantly
I liked it
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>>161073208
I meant how do you even build a control deck around a legendary that pushes aggro. What's your deck?
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>>161073270

fucking chinks
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>>161073291
>getting meme'd on by angel crusher

That's pretty embarassing
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>>161072127
>>161071223
>>161070574
Here we go again with gold cards.
>>161073086
Good, I don't know which cards people usually run often on off-meta (good) stuff, so if anyone catches something else do tell

>Forest
1. Rhinoceroach, Elf Girl Liza, Elf Knight Cynthia, Will of the Forest
2. Robin Hood, Silver Bolt
3. Petal Fencer, Noble Fairy, Ancient Forest Dragon, Titania's Sanctuary, Homecoming, Grand Archer Selwyn
>Sword
1. Alwida's Command, Frontguard General, White Paladin
2. Leonidas, Dragonewt Charlotte
3. Front Lines, Shadowed Assassin, Stratagem, Gemstaff Commander, Rogue's Creed, Latham, Vanguard Captain,

Arthurian Light
>Rune
(I'm not so sure about non-meta rune decks, so if anyone can clarify here that'd be good)
1. Timeworn Mage Levi, Dimension Shift, Fire Chain
2. Calamitous Curse
3. First Curse, Arcane Enlightenment
?. Winter's Caprice, Conjuring Force, Juno's Secret Laboratory, Ancient Alchemist, Rimewind, Dragonbond Mage
>Dragon
1. Dragonewt Scholar
2. Deathmist Dragon, Genesis Dragon, Neptune, Wyvern Cavalier
3. Dracomancer's Rites, PHOENIX ROOST, Wyrm Spire, Polyphonic Roar, Shapeshifting Mage, Hydra, Orb Dragon
>Shadow
1. Foul Tempest, Death's Breath, Phantom Howl
2. Ceridwen, Spirit Cycle, Wight King, Mordecai the Duelist
3. Ghouls' Banquet, Midnight Haunt, Phantom Dragon, Madame Lich, Deathly Tyrant
>Blood
(Not sure if people run diabolic drain or not)
1. Vania, Vampire Princess, Vampiric Fortress, Dire Bond
2. Righteous Devil, Furiae, Azazel, Temptress Vampire
3. Demon Commander Laura, Erinyes, Medusa
>Haven
1. Elana's Prayer, Winged Sentinel Garuda, Themis' Decree
2. ????
3. Hare of Illusions, Holy Sentinel, Arch Priestess Laelia, Chorus of Prayer, Love's Gospel, Devourer of Heavens, Dark Offering, Kaguya, Incandescent Dragon
>Neutral
1. Path to Purgatory, Altered Fate, Urd, Wind God
2. ???
3. Angel Crusher, Archangel Reina, Athena
4. Demonic Simulacrum

Again, call me out on bullshit because I'm sure I'm not 100% correct.
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>>161073291

I fought the same guy half an hour ago.

I was impressed.
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>>161073135

The mother has probably succumbed to sickness and became bedridden since they couldn't get any support from others.
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>>161072413
>flies
>yin yang orbs
It's Garuda
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>Still no fuccboi leader
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>>161073353
pretty good list anon

nothing I really disagree with, except that homecoming is technically the best gold to unbox right now since it vials for full value since its nerf
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>>161073353
Also, forgot to label
1. Good cards used on meta decks
2. Tech or used in borderline-meta decks
3. Liquify (but you might use some to meme)
4. Simulacrum
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>>161073307
I just tossed in all the cheap removal cards that are effective (Dragonewt princess, Dragonbreath, Dragonwings), added a bunch of Carddraw, flute and Forte.

The game plan is to stall and ramp up with removal then start going to town with flute and all the draw cards I have, then finish them off with A forte when they're low since the swarm of Helfire drakes makes for really efficient "removal" so you just whittle them down.

It's hot garbage since i'm poor so i don't have an "Ideal" build but it works alot better than my previous dangan decks.
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>>161073436
Vampy
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>almost won my first online duel but fucked myself by accidentally skipping my turn
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>>161073532
turn on evolve/end turn confirmations
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>>161073336
It's okay I'm running a tier 20 deck
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>>161073512
This is how I run flute if you're interesting. Focuses on rushing to the Flute instead and it's not a very expensive deck.
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>Misplay so hard I lost my 5-0

fuck
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>>161073716
Thanks Senpaitachi. Barely have to craft anything too.
I'll definitely use this when things get too tough.

I-is there a deckbuilder online i can use or something? my current decklist is a mess so i'd love to get something that shows ALL the cards so i can just craft some silvers and help optimize it
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>playing with my ambush/ward meme deck
>agains shadow
>she can't touch me
>actually feel bad

They need to buff shadowcraft
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>>161073807
Check the OP
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>>161073807
Use https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/classes#jump
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Nerf normal decks
Buff meme decks
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>>161073848
I really should double check that before i ask a stupid question shouldn't i?
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>>161073936
Common cards should have the same impact as legendaries.
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>>161073353
Ceridwen seems kinda underwhelming outside of atomeme decks.
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>>161074003
>>161073936
>t. poorfags

I spent my dust on my elf deck and you're going to sit there and take my roach dick and then ask for more.
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>third online duel
>bodied the guy so hard he surrendered in 6 turns
looks like im ready for ranked
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>>161073807
It's not the most optimal since I just made it with what I had but it's pretty close to it. It's kind of a gimmick deck so it's not worth crafting for it, especially not to get more flute cards. If I wanted to optimize it I'd remove the Imprisoned Dragon for another Sky Dragon Ethica and probably remove the Shield Angels for something else.
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>>161074096
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Someone played dork dragoon forte in 5 pp, calling bs
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So it's come to this point.
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>>161074096
>poorfags
Meme decks can be expensive
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>>161074096
>verdant steward
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>>161074221
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>>161074207
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Does this game have a viable solitaire deck like freeze mage in HS?
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>>161074165
It's better than nothing.
Thanks.
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>>161074351
D-Shift
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Need someone to concede for me please: 69167
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>>161074351
Yes. Dimension shift rune does that very well but resembles miracle rogue a bit more than freeze mage.
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>>161074351
Runecraft dshift is more solitare than freeze mage
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Jesus, she's gonna have a sparkle overdoze if I keep unpacking more animated copies of her.
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>>161074270
>no room for Tia on a board but need a taunt on 5

Sadly it's saved me in times when using Tia was impossible.
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>>161074405
Thank you!
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Question about draft ("Take 2"), do you keep the cards you draft?
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>>161074397
>>161074418
>recruiting more dshift

shame on you two.
>>
21s7

I-is this a decent Flute deck for midrangy purposes, I made it mostly with cards i already have with maybe 1 or 2 silvers i still need to craft.
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>enemy haven misplays and spends his 3 evo points to keep up in tempo
>just when i am about to stabilize the board he drops an olivia
yeah nah fuck this,i am not gonna bother with this shit
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>>161074481
No
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>>161074489
I play Sword, I don't give a fuck about solitarie since I just trample over them with my ever growing board.
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>>161074481
You wish.
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>>161074440

I see what you did there, pal.
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Take 2, first pick

Noble Fairy + Elf Knight Cynthia
or
Robin Hood + Elf Girl Liza?
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>>161074440

Her flavor text is the cutest!
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>>161074489
I just answered his question. I don't even play/care about DSHIFT.
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at what point is it ok to liquify cards
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>>161074512
Rather than misplaying, it sounds like you got tricked and outfuckingplayed
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>dragonshitter disconnects on 1hp
>have to wait 90 seconds before result
>you won, opponent disconnected. You get 0 points
What. The. Fuck.
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>>161074440
My daughter
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>>161074512

I always spend my evo points for tempo when I know I drafted an Olivia. Tempo is everything in Arena.
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>>161074646
Noble Fairy ins't bad in arena and Cynthia is pretty good, I'd go with that.
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>>161074505
Not enough draw power to play flute. You'll either struggle to get your flutes, or you'll have your flute out and fill the board with dragons, but then after a single wipe you'll be out of cards with nothing to play. In a regular game you lose on average two dragons per turn and you need to have two dragons take their spot ASAP.
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78706 pls
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>>161074646
Robin Hood in arena is really good.
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>>161071174
FAAAAIRIEEESSSS~~~!!
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Can someone post a super cheap bats deck for someone just starting out?
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If Bloodcraft starts off with 10 HP every match (but can't heal higher). Would they be too good or too fragile?
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>>161074221

I just liquefy normal cards if I have animated versions.

Also game's dumb, if you have 4x animated cards he won't liquefy them.
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>>161074885
Alright, so what should i add/remove?
Should i get a Shenlong or a Dragon Counsel to help refill my hand?
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>>161073436
Rowen is a completely fuccboi
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貴様の弱点
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>>161074995

That'd be awful. Every cards that deals damage to yourself on play (like wolf, draw2, burn3) would be borderline unplayable.
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>people that take 10 years to take their turns

jfc.
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>>161074995

I want to say they'd die too quickly, but a lot of the Vengeance effects are really strong, especially now that they're activated everytime.
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Why does haven have so much fucking card draw?
holy fucking shit
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>>161074976
Do you have Vania or Fortress?
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>>161074995
>go first against blood
>put a quickblader on turn 1
>hit face twice, deal damage equal to the 20% of his current health in 2 turns
I dunno man, sounds shitty to me.
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>>161074995
Way too fragile, considering Storm is a thing.
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>>161075116
>jfc.
Just Fucking Cum?
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>>161075124
I have Fortress.
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I want to impregnate Luna.
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>>161075168
sure if you can make me
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I want to hold hands with Luna
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>>161075208
Too late, I already did.
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>>161075159
Storm really needs a nerf.
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What
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>>161075343
I hope it does.
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Why does every Haven player have a priest at turn 4?
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>>161075336
It's fine. I'll buy her some pills and we do it again.
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>>161075453
Same reason why they have hollow dogma and beast call by turn 2-3
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>>161075186
t.b.h. lad you need at some vanias and more fortress to make the deck work

in the pic the most generic bat blood deck
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>>161075453
Why does every sword player open with 3 Floral Fencers and a perfect curve every time just by topdecking?
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I hope the score rewards are decent next month, got my netdeck ready to climb the ladder.
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>>161073353
If you're gonna put Dragonewt Scholar in the first list then Deathmist should be with her too. Robin Hood and Selwyn should be in the same tier too. Diabolic Drain and Erinyes are used in control a good amount, while Furiae and Azazel are almost never used. Dire Bond should really be in list 2 since you only want it for control. You forgot to list Revelations too, which everyone uses 3 of in control too. Dark Offering is used in some Elana decks for draw, and I see Holy Sentinel used in any kind of deck now too because it's a good counter to aggro. Juno and Ancient Alchemist are frequently used in Earthrite, and Rimewind and Conjuring Force are used in some DS decks too.
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>>161075547
No wind gods?
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Cudgel's artwork would fit well in Hearthstone.
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>>161075626
The entire card should fuck off to HS.
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>>161075606
You shouldn't be running midnight vamps either.
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>>161075606
>wind gods for a deck that's unlikely to have board control at turn 5 unless you are winning anyway
At that point you need direct damage, not buff up something that was probably cleared out.
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>>161075812
I've won narrowly on the back of wind god before, and it always has to be answered.
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Could I get a concede? Thanks.

26442
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>fifth time in a row havencraft
fun game
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Thoughts on wardrobe raider in aggro blood? The +2 health seems to be helpful in aggro matchups.
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reminder to disrespect every dshift player you come across
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>>161075927
>spending evo points for 0 damage
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Is this girl good for something or better as dust or fap material?
Need to pay for my roaches and acient elfs
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Should i save my Gold until next expansion?
Or should i just buy classics and pray for that Forte?
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>>161075852

please respond
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>>161075593
Thanks anon, that helps.
I've seen more than one aggro bat running Dire Bond by the way, what gives? The only reason I've put it on t1 was because I know it is required on control and (I thought) tech'ed into aggro.
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>forest gets to have free evolve off a competitive card

Why is this allowed?
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>>161076138
>rune
add this to your deck
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If they don't fix this shit next expansion I'm out desu. Talking about both, this disconnect shit + the fact that Haven gets played 30% of the time.
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Just watch a match of Hearthstone.

Wew, one game took forever to finish.
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>>161076175
it's only a dc bug if the game doesn't end at the end of the timer
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>>161076165
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>>161076024
She's so bad it's not even funny. Dust.
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>>161076175
goodbye, anon. cheap, good decks will always be popular
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>>161075852
>>161076074

thanks swordbro
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>>161075019
Basically there are two situations you want draw power.
Early game: You want to search for Dragon Oracle and Dragonsong Flute.
Endgame: You want to fill your hands with dragons.

Dragon Counsel is mandatory and pretty much mandatory to run the deck because it does both. It's 4pp, so it can be used early, or used in the endgame to get 3 dragons which you can all play in the same turn you search for them. The drawback is to discard a card, but you don't care. In the early game, you'll be filled with cards you don't need, so you discard them to search to Oracle, and in the endgame, you'll play all your dragon before playing Counsel so you won't discard anything.

Dragonewt Scholar and Ivory Dragon can both search for Flute and Oracles, but Ivory only takes effect if you have Overflow, while Scholar can activate multiple time, so it's better. The drawback is that Scholar can be destroyed by a card effect before you active its search, but that's rare. Both of them can't search for dragons because their low cost will make them turn into dragons themselves once Flute is out.

Shenlong and Spellbook Decryption are both bad at searching early games because of their cost, but are useful in the endgame. I think Spellbook is better because Shenlong only searches for two yet cost more (Sure Shenlong will be on the board himself, but he doesn't have Rush)

So I'd say, pick Dragon Counsel which is so useful, then at least 3 of either Dragonewt or Ivory (Favoring Dragonewt) tough having all of them is good if you can. If you have Forte and Siegfried, then searching for more dragons isn't as important, so you can do without Shenlong/Spellbook. To make place for the cards you're missing, remove your follower cards that are 4pp or over and aren't Forte or Siegfried
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>>161076219
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>>161076165
>Seven Grand for a cashmere noose

What the fuck?
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>>161076301
rip my nigga I got hit by that shit yesterday as well
fucking japs who always do that shit
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>6 mana heal half your HP
>In the most retarded "kill me now or you lose on turn 8" deck
So what exactly is this deck's weakness again? Turn 3 biggest ward in the game, turn 5 best ward in the game, turn 6 best heal in the game, wincon, and an alternate wincon storm just in case everything else isn't overpowered enough. Where's the "aggro counters combo" meme? Or does that apply to all other classes only? Fucking dev pet class shit.
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>try budget shadowcraft aggro
>use up almost all of my vials to create it
>lose every fucking time to swordcraft decks
How do I solve this?
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>>161076325
the should start putting in delays for people that do that shit.
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>>161076361
stop losing
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>opponent bounced Tia 3 (THREE) times
jeez
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>>161076315
For when you want your death to be super special.
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>>161076361

You solve it by not playing.
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>>161076353
I see you got out played by an Elf. Must suck.
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>>161076361
Wait for the next expansion
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>>161076405
just make the game recognize ragequits better
if the timer hits 5s left or whatever autoconcede for them
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>>161076413
I-IKUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>161076267
Gracious thanks Senpai.
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>>161076361
Play wards
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> it's a Forte gets cucked by wards episode
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>>161071249
What's the onetime crystal deal?
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Why do I have to include Aria in Seraph deck?
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>>161076682
Because Aria is the best card in the game
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>>161076353

Eh, ignore those noises. Forestcraft is the most balanced class. :^)
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>>161076657
Did he not draw wild hunt or siegfried?
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>>161076682
Because you are cancer.
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>>161076768

He pulled a Sigfried, evolved it and take out two of my Golems but was quickly deal with with Price of Magic.
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>>161076657
If he had an Extra Evo point i would've gone BALMUNG STRIKE DOWN MY FOES.
Alas he didn't.
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Could prince of darkness work as a wincon for a dragon deck? Would an early satan wreck shit?
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>>161076669
600 crystals at a discounted price, it shows when you are trying to buy them. And with the daily deal where you can buy 1 pack per day at 50 crystal.
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what's the best and worst deck class?
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>>161076774
>MUH CANCER

Let me guess, you are Swordmain?
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>>161076657
Is your deck any good? I'm using Earth Rite.dek and I want to do cool golem stuff but I don't have any Golem Protections
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Cynthia is my wife and is cuter than Liza and Arisa put together
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There's no reason not to just immediately spend all my tickets to buy packs, right?
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>>161076892
Looks like a dyke tough
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>>161076868
Best-runecraft. Rewards you for long-term planning and skill. The worst would be swordcraft because it basically hands you wins without any effort on your part.
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>>161076898
Tickets can only be used to buy packs, so go ahead.
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>>161076891

> Is your deck any good?

It's fucking shit and I don't have any Pascales but it wins sometimes.
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T-the next expansion will save Dragon, Blood and Shadow right?
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>>161076935
She looks like a haughty and proud girl that's weak to a good dicking.
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Noble Fairy would be such a great combo card if only it didn't cost so much to get the combo going.

In worst case scenario the whole combo needs 10 PP + 3 slots on board to clear board and 4 cards to pull it off which leaves behind a 4/4 and 2 1/1.

In worse case scenario the combo needs 8PP + 3 slot on board to clear which leaves behind a 4/4 and 2 1/1.
That's it if you managed to hold your two 0 cost fairies in hand till turn 8 which is rather unlikely.

In "best" case scenario the combo needs 10PP but only 1 slot on board to clear but still needs 4 cards which leaves behind a 4/4.

Forest would be so much fun to play but because of these bullshit requirements for combos why people just put the legos and roaches into the deck and call it a day.
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I kind of want to buy Forte but feel stupid spending gold on that instead of on cards and they might even release a cooler leader later on.
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>>161076964
>Rune
>skill
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>>161077016
Maybe shadow, aggro dragon/blood is doing pretty well.
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>>161076981
That's a shame. I'm running the jankiest shit in D0 and it wins sometimes because D0. I wish Golem stuff was better, they're miles cooler than generic anime waifu cards.
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>>161077067
name a deck that requires more thought than dshift
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>>161077016
The tier list is basically "Let's make the hot girls top tier". Dragon and Blood are guys so they're shit tier. Shadow is a loli so she's shit tier.
However they will buff Dragon because its alt leader is a hot girl. Blood will stay shit because the alt leader is a loli.
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>>161077226
>hot girls top tier
>Haven is top tier
Nah.
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>>161077197
DShift doesn't require thought is the problem.
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>>161077197
Dragon Satan
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>>161076848
Yes, this was the cancer before the game became so fast
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>>161076848
In theory t7 Satan sounds decent (if the cards fall just right) but in practice I found it very clunky.
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>>161076138

anyone?

I'm saving for a pascale
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>>161077197
Elana Haven
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What is the point to playing through the campaign exactly?

I know there are some missions that unlock cards (like the banners you get from swordcraft), but there is a wiki page or something that has a full list of stuff you unlock from each campaign?
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Should Beastcall Aria cost 4 mana or be countdown (5)?
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>>161077290
You can get it by t6 senpai
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>>161077338
+2 is too much. Making it 3pp Countdown(3) is good enough. Otherwise 2pp Countdown(4) in comparison to Noble Fangs.
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>>161077226
Vampy is more popular than every other character in the game. Cygames just don't want her outshining the Shadowverse original cast, since she already does well in RoB and GB. Arisa and Isabelle get pushed hard in everything. They're the crossover representatives of the game, they're always tier 1, and get broken cards, the channel's webshow is basically "the Arisa show ft. Isabelle's tits". It also helps that their VA are cheap literally whos.
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>>161077254
Haven has 3 different T1 decks.
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>>161077338
Neither. Go back to bed, Luna chan.
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>>161077261
good one shitposter kun

>>161077269
but no one plays that because its too shit

>>161077324
ebin

in absence of any compelling counter arguments, it looks like dshift is infact the most complicated and skill heavy deck in the game. glad we're agreed
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>People roping in Take Two trying to get you to concede
Is this the new meme?
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>>161077479
Nah, DShift is pretty braindead.
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>1-5 in ranked
>only win was from my opponent dcing on the first turn
wtf am i doing wrong
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>>161077069
Having an aggro deck in Tier 2 is not doing pretty well.
I mean blood is expected to have an aggro deck but for dragon it's unacceptable.
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>>161077435
Not him but I think it's a jab at Haven's leader, not its presence in the tier list.
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>enemy at 7 health has mini soul devil
>I have two bats and vampiric fortress on field
>I play an imp lancer, evolve her and face with everything
>he's left at one health because I forgot about mini soul devil
>my brain rots and I concede cause he would've won on his turn
>I forgot about vampiric fortress and would've won if I just ended turn
I'm uninstalling I don't deserve to play this ever again
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>>161077435
Yeah but she's not hot.
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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

MOM GET THE FUCKING CAMERA
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>>161077379
>Isabelle
>always tier 1
lol
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>>161077338
Hopefully never. Blood is only playable right now, because "le turn 6 11 damage guaranteed lethal :^)" is not being played.
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How do you respond to a smug Arisa on a bed when she roach combos you down from 15 health?
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>>161077549
You have absolutety poor taste in women.
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>>161077574
D.Shift always goes to tier 1 when PtP is played. Every single week PtP becomes popular, they bump D.Shift to tier 1. This has been happening for as long as I've been playing (since June). PtP just has no bad match up, let alone counter, other than D.Shift.
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>tfw have win 6 ranked battles
>memed with 6 defeats in row at beginner1
This might get the whole day
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Thinking of giving this game a try. Is it easy to pick up as a new player? I've heard about the class system and I usually play control/combo so I wanted to know if the classes are tied to a certain archetype. if that's the case what are they?
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>play rng bug
>enemy has no removal
>they concede
uhhhhhh, shadowbabs??
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Can you derank out of A0?
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>>161077643
Mating press
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>>161077718
No
You can drop numbers but not letters
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>>161077718
You can't lose letter ranks, only number ranks.
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>>161077538
>>161077549
Oh okay

Yeah she's a hag.
But nips have weird taste sometimes.
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>>161077673
It was only tier 1 for a bit before DE when ptp elf was rampant
Its tier 2 at best
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So why don't we start calling this game Forestverse? I just can't think of a thing they are bad at.
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>>161077682
Easy to pick up yes. Game is very young so it's as good a time to start as any.

Combo decks are generally Runecraft/Forestcraft, but most of the crafts have variant decks that might suit your desire.
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>>161077682
play forest
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>>161077643
Pin her smug body down and perform the mating press.

That'll show her not to mess with a human
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Hello where is the Deathly Tyrant art??
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How do I counter Mordecai if I'm not Haven
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>>161077861
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>>161077823
Its best decks are way more expensive than storm haven so people muddling around the low ranks get sour about haven because they see it more often there.
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>>161077882
Hit face. He's not a ward.
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>>161077861
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>>161070634
>remove Imprisoned Dragon and Goblin Demon
>add all those shit cards like Goblin
No. You're trying to convert his deck into Aggro Dragon without Fortes. It's not gonna work.
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>>161077882
Kill them before he comes out.
Odin.
Banish if your craft has banish.
Or ward and out-trade. (protip: he wears down even most control decks so don't bank on this, and most Mordecai decks run urd for memes.)
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>>161077803
Nigga, it's back to tier 1 RIGHT NOW. The deck always goes back to tier 1 whenever anything control or combo is popular, and right now PtP and Seraph hybirds are popular, or at least the last 2 weeks they have been.
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>>161077882
Use a win condition better than a 5/5 guy that can't do anything until turn 9.
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>>161076138
>No Sun Oracle Pascale

L O L

O

L
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New player here. Does shadowverse ever get balance patches, or is it just cards from new expansions that shake up the meta? (And if balance patches do get rolled up, how often/how significant are they.) I'm thinking of buying into the broken elf deck but I don't want to spend money to buy a deck if it's going to get nerfed soon.
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>tfw i am losing games solely because i cannot deal face damage with Forest as i lack roach
I sure fucking like relying on one card to win games,
thanks cygames
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>>161077882
>>161077948
He is like reverse ward. Once Mordecai hits the field you only go face and put some small wards down.
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Who /flute/ here
Best girl
Weird foot tough
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Was a sword deck focused on ambush ever viable?
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>>161077882
Drop 2x Urd on him, make a few cute little Luna-chan emotes, then explode yourself in a flash of light.
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Thought Elana haven was pretty cancerously OP.

Tried storm haven and this is even better.

Still get's fucked by forest fucks and aggro swords though.
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>>161078096
Elf decks were already nerfed multiple times. Doesnt faze them as they just replace nerfed broken cards with other broken cards.
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>>161078136
There's only 2 viable ambush cards in the entire game, and one of them isn't even played for the ambush, and the other is a budget option 2 drop for face decks.
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Where's the art for Best boy??????
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>>161065413
Rachel?
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>>161070231
Remove 1 goblinmount.
Remove 1 serpent force
Remove 3 dragonriders
Remove 1 dragonrider devil
Remove 1 Dragonguard
Remove 1 grim reaper
Remove 2 queen serpernt

Add in 3 mushishi
Add in 1 fire lizard
Add in 3 siegfried
Add in 3 seabrand drakes

Your focus is to fight for board control and then storm him down late game.
Works way better with forte
Works better with Zirnitra
Do you have none of those?
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>>161074454
Run the silver bounce ward instead.
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Need private match win ID: 29962
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>>161078076

see

>>161077298
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>>161070231
You probably need legendaries to play ramp dragon. Big dudes don't get to last very long in this game since everyone has neutral removal

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.4.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.66giC.66giC.5_38w.5_38w.5_38w.62tHw.62tHw.62sZM.62sZM.62sZM.62v0O.62v0O.61PnY.61PnY.5_4sI.5_4sI.66j8S.66j8S.66j8S.61NLm.61NLm.61NLm.62xRs.62xRs.62xRs.62zty.62zty.62zty.66laY.66laY.66laY.65GMo.62zto.62zto.66lqK.62xRi.62xRi

Ramp dragon usually looks something like this
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>forest player has 3 roaches in the top 10 cards
>does literally nothing but generate fairies and go face with bouncing roaches
>lose by like turn 5

ok
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>>161076353
>>6 mana heal half your HP
What?
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>>161078587
fairy beast
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>>161078518
Should have warded up.
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>>161078518
forest nerfs when?
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>>161078620

8 hp max is not half your hp
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>>161078620
Oh, right. That card does not heal half your HP though. Not even with a full hand.
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>>161078648
i mean when you think about it, i was almost asking for it by not running wards
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>Full constructed Elana in TT
Why can't I escape this cancer?
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Has there ever been a haven player without turn 2 Aria?
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>>161075772
why not?
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>>161078702
>>161078710
The OP was obviously exaggerating you idiots, its still a very strong healing card.
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For ramp dragon, should I trade Aiela 1 for 1 or should I just go face with her since the opponent won't want to kill her?
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>>161078802
Yeah, good ones who know when to and when not to Aria on turn 2 such as in Runecraft matchup and play Mainyu instead.
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>>161078802
Has there ever been a haven player without turn 4 cudgel?
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This dork is roping me for eternity already. What should I do?
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>>161078818
In practise it's far more likely to heal like 5~ something. Its stats are also pure shit.
Haven has much better heal cards.
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>>161078872
Depends entirely on board state and state of hand. Trading is usually the best option with her though, because most Dragon desperately needs to hold control over the field until it can get its big drops out.
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Is there a wincon other than roach for Forest to close games?
It seems really silly.That 9PP monstroity is shit and rather unreliable.
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Remove haven
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I have private match quest 61343
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>>161078996
>In practise it's far more likely to heal like 5~ something.
>I have literally literally never played ptp forest

If you aren't hovering around max hand capacity by turn 6 as ptp forest you are doing something very wrong, or are just zerging down for a quick win.

And no, given the healing potential 4/4 is a very strong body. There isn't very many things an evolved 4/4 can't kill in this meta.
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>>161079061
Rose Queen is a pretty reliable game ender.
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>when someone puts a couple of rose queens into an otherwise standard tempo forest deck and pretends like they're somehow above all the other tempo decks

You're the same goddamn cancer, don't kid yourself.
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>>161079108
Thank you!
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>>161079192
No problemo
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>>161079097
>Two cerbs just sitting there
>LotF that went into a new turn with himself and his first turn bug still alive.

When exactly did this guy realize he was playing the game, because I'm not seeing it.
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>>161078975
It's probably one of the /svg/ autists that drags out every game against Haven and Rune
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>>161078996
>Its stats are also pure shit.
Define the target that he can't kill after evo or at least with the help of a fairy.
There's very few bodies like that that are actually run.

Even if you don't evo he serves as a mini ward because people have to kill him to prevent bouncing and extra heals.
>>
I will make a new thread.
It would be my last thread for the day, so don't be mad.
Also, it's because i want to post Vampy lewds.
>>
New thread
>>161079297
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>10 games without drawing a single Ancient Alchemist

come on
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>>161078975

concede
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>>161072127
>lucifer
>above gabriel

Shut up D rank.
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>>161079113
I don't have her.Guess if i don't have roach or legos i can go fuck myself playing Forest.
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>>161079712
yes exactly
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Anything good?
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>>161079061
>>161079712
You can easily focus on Fairy Dancer instead anon.
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>>161079804
Urd is great. And Medusa is cute.
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>>161079804
Urd and 250 vials
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>>161079858
That would assume i have enough units on board to buff to attack with.
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>>161079945
Medusa? Can't dust something this cute and with such an ass
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>>161079681
>Gabriel
>possible tech in literally two decks
>Lucifer
>possible tech in any control deck
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>>161080080
That's no issue with forest though. You don't need to Roach or Rose Queen to swarm.
Just bounce Fairy Dancer up and down.
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>>161080385
Teching her in would mean my already unfocused deck would become even worse.
Damn it.
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>>161080507
Honestly, don't even try and make a budget forest deck. I tried, shit just doesn't work. I was lucky enough to unbox 3 tias and a roach so I made ptp on the cheap and tht works well enough, but before that the deck was unfocused as fuck and really pretty bad
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>>161080507
You mean you aren't even running her?
Fix your deck. It should work fine. Could probably take you to at least A rank.
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>>161080385
I thought Rose Queen was a shit card, is it actually good or just for a forest memedeck
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>>161080920
memedeck.
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>>161080920
>I thought Rose Queen was a shit card
Some would argue it's too late game. But why would you think it's a shit card?
It turns each fairy into a 3 damage spell. Have at least 5 fairies and that translates straight into 15 direct face damage.
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>>161080589
Don't make me sad Anon.

>>161080897
here is my deck i am trying to improve:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.1.5zvAY.5zvAY.61jJY.61jJY.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k32.61k32.5zvAi.5zvAi.5zvAi.61jJs.61jJs.61k2a.61k2a.61k2a.61k2u.61k2u.61k2u.65YC2.65YC2.61jKA.61jKA.61jKA.61llo.61llo.61lmu.61lmu.61lmu.61O4U.61O4U.61lmQ.61oCM.61oCM.65enI.61lmk.61lmk.65Zv6.65Zv6
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Newfag here, just started playing Shadowverse a day ago. I somehow liked using the Bloodcraft cards for how vigorous it gets after Vengeance is activated.


I find it difficult to properly use it though. What I do is just use them normally and let things happen naturally, then do a big comeback once Vengeance is activated.

Any other useful tips in using Bloodcraft? Would appreciate them.
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>>161081092
>0 wards
lmao
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>>161081087
Does the 0 cost Fairies from cards like Elf King or Princess Mage gets turned into the thorn keeping the 0 cost?
Could be interesting
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>>161081120
You kinda got it right, vengeance is best ignored more so than used, the only real deck that makes use of it is control blood at the very late game.
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>>161074995
They still start off at 1PP, so no.
The Haven matchup would probably get better at the expense of the rest of the others.
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>>161081092
Cut Master of the Canopies. Swarming and buffing your little dudes are your win condition
Cut one or both your Noble Fairies.
Cut one or two Woodkin Curse.
Likewise cut one or both Fairy Beasts. Since you don't have a late game win condition like Rose Queen I would urge you to cut both, you're at a disadvantage in the late game anyway, spending resources to stall is only doing you a disadvantage.
Play Verdant instead of the Elf Prophetess.

Add Elf Metallurgist and Elf Guard. Perfumer is great. Add on or two Sylvan Justice. Add one or two Elven Archery. A Mana Elk for when you don't have Dancer could be an option to consider. You're already running 3x Elven Princess Mages, which isn't bad, but consider a copy of Yuel if you have one.
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>>161081902
Not him, but why Verdant?
I know it's better in PtP, but I thought in Combo the bounce is more useful?
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89052
Concede please
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>>161082031
You need to swarm to have anything to buff in the first place. Swarming is also better at seizing the field, which increases the likelihood of your followers surviving enough for it to be worth to buff them.
Verdant also has better stats so it's better at keeping your followers alive in the first place for you to be able to push.

Lastly. While bouncing is great, Prophetess is fucking expensive to play which makes it the worst bounce card.
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>>161082110
I'll do it if you suck my dick.
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>>161081360

I see. Well thanks. I'm gonna try improving my deck that focus less on trying to bring Vengeance to myself.
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I miss 1 Aurelia, Otohime and Alwida for a compelte mid range deck. What are good temporary replacements for those?

Was thinking of just throwing 3 banners in there.
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>>161082820
Cursed General.
>>
Holy shit, this game have a pretty nice and comfy bgm. Where can I get all of the OST?
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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