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Overheat Your Painters Edition.

Permalink: http://orph.link/eog

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
Yes of course!

>I just started, what should I do?
Get a referral from someone to get free sp, beg for it here if you have to.
Do the Opportunities then all the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy
Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Now:
>ASCENSION DEPLOYED http://updates.eveonline.com/date/2016-11-15/
>EVE IS NOW F2P GOY
>Rewards, Gnosis, Goggles and a new destroyer, don't forget to redeem it.


Future:
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov ??: http://updates.eveonline.com/coming/fall/ click through for devblog links on F2P and LINKS, plus teasers for rorqual reworks, industry structures, visual updates AND also free stuff, plus a new ship


Past:
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Sep 12: CSM 11 first summit
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 26: AT prizes announced (blood raider variations)
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 18: Billboards submissions open
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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>tfw ur fleet cane has 20k ehp more than ur normal cane
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how make money?
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>corax is asymmetrical
REEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>160976398
become a jita whore
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>shit nobody uses looks like shit
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>corax
>shit
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What other way is there to make afk money other than distribution missions and mining in a hauler?
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>>160977091
ratting, plexing in FW
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>>160976540
Welcome to memematar.
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>>160977091
Industry/Invention and Planetary Interaction are both passive income.
That's not quite AFK, you don't even have to be online, but it's pretty similar.
Another fine choice is hauling low value crap through highsec on autopilot.
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Watched Clear Skies after seeing it mentioned in the last thread. They may as well have just had "Directed by Joss Whedon" in the credits with how much of a Firefly rip-off it was.
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oneiros
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I'm going to find a low sec system to home base it up a bit away from my trading hub.

Any tips for Low Sec I should know of?
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pve talwar fit? im finding ones that use shields
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>>160980361
Prepare to run away.
Not just mindset, actually take steps to prepare to runaway.

Boommark several arbitrary points in space in each system you frequent.
Have AT LEAST one instant undocks for each station you plan on using.
Don't warp to 0km unless you know what (and who) will be on grid there.
If you're idling at any point (ratting, or whatever) align to a getaway point.
You're certainly not in w-space, but D-Scan as frequently as if you were.
Speaking of not being in w-space, pay attention to who's in local chat.
And, of course, fit your ships for PvP.
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tfw insta undocks are for fags
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>>160981696
Sounds good, I want to mostly do manufacturing/PI and I'm 20 days away from training for a Bustard.
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>>160981712
t. Wormholer

>>160981825
Have you considered doing that in w-space?
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first
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>>160982149
Haven't, w-space seems scary. Is it a lot more beneficial for PI?
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>>160982209
PI in WH is difficult due to logistics.

Planets in wormholes have the best resources, but you still need to sell them, which means finding a wormhole and hauling them to hi-sec.

Wormholes have the advantage of being able to put down your own POCOs which is nice too.
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>>160982209

Doing Industry in w-space is a stupid idea for only the most total of ballers.
That said, Industry *is* most profitable out of Player Owned Structures.
And w-space *is* the easiest place for a solo player to own a POS.
Still a fucking awful idea though.

The planets are SIGNIFICANTLY nicer in w-space than in nullsec.
PI is also like, the safest thing you could possibly do in w-space.
All classes have equally good planets, so stick to the (extra safe) C1/C2 wormholes.
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>>160982626
What are the safest bets to produce? I'm trying to put together my first spreadsheet and having a hard time what angle to attack this at
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>>160982327
>PI in WH is difficult due to logistics
Refinding the wormholes constantly is tedious, but it's not a long or difficult process.
Consult a list of statics when you initially select your planets/systems.
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Are there any ships that can effectively solo pirate into and out of w-space?

I did this with a proteus years ago that jumped into deep null sec with wormholes and fuck up faction ships busy ratting then jumping back out through the wormhole network.

Not sure if any balance changes have effected this though.
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>>160982327
>which means finding a wormhole and hauling them to hi-sec
every c1 has a high sec static
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>>160982894
Stratios
Proteus can still do it (but you gotta be careful)
Curse
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>>160982962
only 70% of C1's have a hi-sec static
25% low-sec
5% null-sec
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>>160983007
The fuck is a stratios
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>>160982690
>What are the safest bets to produce?
At the end of the day, its all about Barren/Temperate peocessor goods.
What specifically to make is largely dependant on what's available.
All your planets should be in one system, so it's convienet to work with what you have.
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>>160982962
>>160983281
but anyway that's not the point, we are assuming that you are living in a C1 with a hi-sec static.

the act of hauling to a trade hub in k-space is risky, unless you contract it from your k-connection, which might be reasonable
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>>160983285
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Stratios
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>>160983285
A covert ops drone cruiser that can fit several medium neuts and get solid dps
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>>160982626
also I highly recommend C1 wormholes because of the mass limits.

C1 can only allow 20t mass ships (cruisers/battlecruisers, no battleships/capitals)
C2 onwards can allow battleships through
C5 onwards allow capitals through
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Is there any other solo fit for sleip than 2xlasb?
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>>160983857
non ancillary
but it dies to neuts
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>5 days with no response from CCP
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>>160984907
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W e w
>>160984982
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>crossposting dead threads
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>CODE tears

the most delicious tears on earth
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Is Negative Ten a decent pirate alliance? Was looking to get into some lowsec shenanigans
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>>160977758
Hauling missions or hauling contracts?

Aren't most of those just scams anyway?
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Redpill me on current corporation politics.
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How do I do good minimalist P2
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Putting stabs on industrial ship, good idea or just focus on align speed, idk what to put on the low slots?
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>>160987581
Max out planetary CPU skill.

There are dozens of guides for P0>P2 production, theres only like a few setups worth doing.
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>>160987581
Your command centre doesn't need to be connected.
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>>160987782
Stabs, extra tank, or extra cargo.
Really depends on what you need.
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>>160987829
There are so many skills to max out in this game

>7 mins
ok cool
>18 days
ok
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>>160988518
there are only 2 PI skills worth maxing, the CPU and the max planets one. the other two are just for surveying and kind of useless
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What is the real life equivalent of nullsec?
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>>160988898
Detroit
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>>160988898
The Walled City of Kowloon
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I used to dick around with TEST, I got up to a shitty Drake. now that the games free for alpha clones I'd like to do some low level shit throwing. Any suggestions? Any corps designed for wasting other pilots time?
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>>160989065
That looks scary as shit
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Is caracal just a new meme or is it good enough for low sec sites
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Patch notes for EVE Online: Ascension 1.7
Released on Thursday, November 24, 2016

Defect Fixes
Gameplay:

Reconfigured citadels which failed to online engineering service modules correctly. This also fixes a problem with loading the facility tab, when such a citadel should have been listed. Affected service modules might need to be installed again.
New Eden has been made a better place by fixing potential exploits.
Graphics:

Fixed visibility of the market graph after tweaking display options.
Fixed a crash that occurred when exiting the Captains Quarters.
Technical:

Fixed a bug which resulted in reduced server performance due to generation of too many logs.
User Interface:

Fixed an issue where station services would not load properly when a client was launched with a stacked character sheet.
Fixed some missing notification setting strings.
Industry window: Entries in the "Blueprints and Jobs" tab, which are located in structures, are now showing the proper facility sub-menu and allow setting the destination to the structure.
Fixed an issue where items with fulfilled requirements, but missing pre-requirements, would display the "Add to Queue" button in their tooltip.
Tweaked the appearance of ship group bonus skills in the ship tree when you've trained the required skills for that group.
Added proper validation messages when attempting to extract over-trained skills with a skill extractor.
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>>160989354
TEST still exists.
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this is keres-chan

say something nice to her
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>>160991420
Your e-war bonus is good keres chan.
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>>160991532
t-thank you anon-senpai!
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Just got my first rifter guys
Should i buy shield or armor modules from the market? And where do i go to shoot stuff? Is it true that minmatar is garbage and i should quit this game?
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>>160991903
if you are an alpha, minmatar is 3rd best after caldari and gallente
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>>160991903
answer to every generic question about fitting is it depends
warp to asteroid belts if you want to shoot some rats
go to lowsec if you want to get blown up by other players
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Do you keep a library of fits, or do you throw something together every time?

If you do have a library, how do you maintain it? Did you make them?

Pls post fits
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>>160992283
I only have one fit and I keep it both in Pyfa and in-game
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>tfw the mini skill extractor is probably patched today
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>>160992283
I spent so much time in EFT that I can tell you roughly what a fit should be for any x y or z activity with pretty much any standard subcaps. I guess what I'm saying is I fit in my head and check real quick with EFT or simulation to find out if I need a CPU implant.
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>>160992283
>Pls post fits
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>>160992530
*injector
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>>160989065
Wow,
Thanks for this
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>$59.99 for CCPs shitty VR space sim
Are they serious? What the holy fucking hell
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>>160992912
all the games were overpriced last few years
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>>160992912
would buy if it wernt vr and 30 bux

ccp pls
vr only was a mistake
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I haven't been in nullsec (or any half decent corp) since before they added dreads. Last time I kinda knew what I was doing everyone still flew battleships fleets, having 200 dudes with large t2 gun skills meant you were elite and there was no such thing as anchors or doctrines.

Is putting an alt in Karmafleet the best choice if I just want to learn how all that nullsec stuff works now? Is their wiki as great as it sounds? I'm mostly curious about capitals and how not to welp them.
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>>160992137
what is rats
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>>160993040
hahaha
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>>160993001
Its absolutely mad, even SC/ED/Any older space game has more content and its cheaper. What the fuck CCP you've been smoking the Injectors a little too much.
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>>160993102
pirates, enemy npc ships
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Almost done with this dumbass sisters of Eve bullshit epic.

What's a good way to make ISK solo?
Can't I just mine in an Orca and kewl?
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>>160993272
Unless you're using a rorq or multiboxing a bunch of mining alts, mining is not worth your time.
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>>160993272
>Can't I just mine in an Orca and kewl?
No, you literally cant. Not unless you consider wasting your time worth it.
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>>160993139
Even TEST rejected my main. My options are basically shitty renter alliances or Providence.
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>>160993371
Ok, what is a good alternative?

>>160993387
Ok, what is a God alternative?

I'm just gonna do it because all you guy say is its bad. Everything is bad. Exploration, mining, rating, all bad.
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>>160993565
If you want to fly an orca I assume you have an omega clone? If so, incursions will get you the most isk/hr for the least effort.

You sound like a shitter so you'll fit right in.
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Can I use pic related in conjunction with the refer-a-friend thingy for super cheap play time? Pic related is from GMG
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>>160993645
Incursions it is.
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>>160993647
No you can't have both.
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>>160992912
>>160993001
>>160993157
Is it just me or does CCP seem to be retarded when trying to make EVE spinoffs and making them for niche markets that just don't fucking exist. DUST was a fun game and the mechanics where there but they made it a console exclusive. Now they make this and it has to be VR only. Whats next after this crashes and burns in a year because "it would be more work to re do all the code than to just make a new game"?
>Another ground infantry game but joystick only
>A multi crew module for ships that will totally be implemented inside EVE, until it only shares a chat box :^)
>An interactive visual novel but for the visually impaired so it can only plays at 150% volume and makes very loud BEEPs every time the scene changes
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>>160993795
I think its a contract thing

dust was contract
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Is a caracal enough for a low sec wormhole?
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>>160993795
>EVE TV show on Syfy based on leftover Caprica scripts
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>>160993795
CCP lucked out with Eve.

They are simply incompetent and show time and time again that they don't understand their own game or their playerbase.
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>>160993887
>filmed entirely in Irish
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>>160994102 for >>160993981 obviously

>>160993887
>enough
This can mean many things
Judging by your lack of details I'm going to say no
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>>160993795
>Is it just me or does CCP seem to be retarded when trying to make EVE spinoffs
CCP only has 1 game, which survives entirely because of a very small dedicated whale audience

They have absolutely no experience making real video games (i.e. not MMOs), which is why they keep flopping horribly. They are so stuck in their old ways they have no idea how to actually make a game that appeals to lots of people.

Kinda of reminds me of those chefs in kitchen nightmares who think their cooking is 10/10 amazing while everyone keeps telling them they are stuck in the past and their food is awful.
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>>160994073
>CCP lucked out with Eve.
More like lucked out and keep lucking out.

You would think someone by now would have made their own eve game and blown eve the fuck out by not being stuck in the past.
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>>160992583
>no foreman boosts
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>>160994459
implying foreman effects drones
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>>160994557
>solo mining in a rorqual
lmoa
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>>160993040
>I'm mostly curious about capitals and how not to welp them.

Look forward to Tiberizzle mumbling orders as you risk your billion+ ISK ship, then calling you a useless faggot that should kill himself if you don't understand him.

So pretty much the same as every other nullsec alliance really
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>>160994368
>eve mixed with diablo loot and good pve

pls
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>drones cost twice the price of the ship
how does this even happen?
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>>160994606
if you have caps in range its pretty good isk for one miner to make and it generates content
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>>160994697
>lose 1 drone
>lose 1.2bil isk
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>sit in your own bubble of completely safe nullfaggotry
>I'm generating content guize
kys
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>>160994687
>>160994772
Why the fuck are those drones so expensive they don't seem to be that much better either?
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>>160994772
This is where the magic of nullbears come into play.

>local spikes
>call drones
>screech on TS about bad men in system
>drop 10 carrier to kill 3 svipuls
>continue mining almost 500mil/h
>if too many svipul
>use immunity core
>make ping for entire alliance region to login
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>>160994663
>Albion was looking like a fantasy/isometric eve
>is even more p2w than eve is
Great.
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>>160994921
>playing eve
>generating content
More like generating profits for CCP and future regrets for yourself
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>>160994368
There were some companies who tried. What was the name of that Mecha MMO again? It was basically EVE on a planet with a similar skill system
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>new player to eve
>alpha clone
>have this much

Am I literally /ourguy/?
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>>160995359
>with a similar skill system
So less 'eve but better' and more 'eve but also shit'

god damn do i hate this skill system
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>>160995426
Congrats you sold a plex
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>>160995426
>old player pretending to be a new player
You're literally a /faggot/
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>>160995259
Who cares if it's P2W if it's actually good.

Unfortunately, it's complete garbage.
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>>160995436
>plex is 1.4 bil

try again dummy
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>>160995495
>P2W
>Good
Pick 1
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>>160994663
How to good PvE? Even WoW is basically just a DPS check.
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>>160995431
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What t1 frig should I buy with my hard earned jew gold? Succubus ok?
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>>160995581
pls no poors
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>>160995605
Needing to actively parry/dodge shots for one.

Perhaps needing to strategize on ways to take down a fleet.

Perhaps taking down an NPC leader, causes AI to get slighty chaotic/dumber.

All types of stuff you can do.
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>>160995657
Absolutely awful

Dont developers realize the only reason we put up with eves bullshit is that we are too far gone in the deep end to get out, no one wants to willingly jump into this
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>>160995714
Frigates are too fast to have WoW and, obviously, parry style gameplay.

What's not alright is.. IDK rats not scaling to group size..
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Rough morning, btw. What's the morning routine, /eog/?
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I almost never see any fleet employ battleships. Its only t3 cruisers or t3 destroyers but never battleships, even though I see capital ships quite often.

The only battleships I see on fleet ops are machariels. Where are the Rokh, Abaddon and everything else other than mission running?
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>>160995971
>farm a certain something for 2 hours every morning

>make 400mil
>log off
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>try my hand at exploration
>nothing but wormholes and combat sites for hours on end
what am I doing wrong guys
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>>160995997
>Vulnerable to stealth bombers
>Slow as shit both in warp and on the battlefield

Honestly I'm not sure if this can be fixed without pushing the balance completely in the other direction and we see nothing but battleships.
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>>160996110
go deeper
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>>160996110
You're doing nothing wrong.

Exploration is currently overfarmed because of alphas.
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>>160996017
>>160995971
>try to run a certain something in my Nignoggur every morning
>scary people in local launch combat probes
>dock and log off before I get bullied
I miss running FW L4s senpai
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>>160996216
He's doing plenty wrong.
He's avoiding all wormholes instead of going in them.

He's not going to find relic sites on surface wormholes that connect to high sec
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>>160996110
Maybe you should put on some big boy pants and explore inside wormholes
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>>160996226
scaredy cat
scaredy cat
nana nana boo boo
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>>160996226
I'd like /eog/ to party up and make bank.. get newbuds some SP or whatnot.
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>>160996110
>>nothing but wormholes and combat sites for hours on end
If you're not in wormhole space you're not exploring. Period.

The risk is entirely outweighed by the rewards.
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Serious question, how do I recognize c1 wormholes?
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>>160996553
wh pasta gg

google that I cant link
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>>160996553
Just say "what kinda wormhole is this?" in local.
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>not getting newbs into Gallente / Tristan
It's the cheapest frigate with the most DPS at the best range.
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>>160996984
>making noobs fly paper tank ships
Best way to make them quit is to have them die 5 seconds into a fight
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>>160997109
Or they could obtain proficiency.
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>>160997154
>lol just git gud xD
Fuck off
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>>160997154
Can't do that when you quit because the game is boring because you spend 30 minutes getting a ship and fitting it only to lose it in five seconds to anything after 3 hours of looking for a fight
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>>160997241
If they're going to fly a Maulus or Griffin, they have to navigate like a boss.

>>160997306
>save fitting
>buy all
>fit
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/eog/ dedicated Tama-gatecamp busters where?
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>>160997357
Just buy a plex to pay for it all ;^)
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>>160997306
this
>join fw
>fit a t1 frig
>spend hours trying to catch some people doing milita plexes
>stay in a plex after scaring some guy off
>dscan shows svipul
>he lands in the plex
>it's the guy I scared off
>warp off because don't want to die
>he puts a "?" in local
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>>160997552
reply with a gf in local
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>>160996553
Look up a visual WH identification graph.
They will always say leads to unknown, they look cloudy in the center, blue/purpleish, and can only fit medium ships.

You could also use WH sites that identify them by ID once you jump into it, but it's better to visually identify, means you can know what they are without having to jump them.
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>combat site escalates
>lowsec
>it's a system that's camped at all times
epic
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>>160998503
Why don't you go on the internet and cry about it?
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Daily reminder that the moros is the worst dread and the nag is better than the moros in every field of the world.

Also neuts and webs ARE ewar
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>whole family is over for thanksgiving lunch/dinner

>I come out to grab some food
>whole table looks over at me

>Dad:"Oi, look who it is, fat fuck anon come to eat all of our thanksgiving dinner"

>start crying
>DAD:"I'll GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO CRY ABOUT, WHERES MY BELT CINDY"

>get beat with belt while my corp listens on mumble
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An Anon last night was talking about how to avoid landing on a gate and being popped by a smart bombing BS but thread ded before I could reply.

1. Don't fly gate to gate.
2. Get off grid bookmarks of every gate you use or may use above, below or behind them.

Do these two things and you won't get caught in a drag bubble and you won't be in smarty range. The smartying ships are in precise locations fixed for incoming gate to gate travelers.

If you want to just avoid them, look at your map with ships destroyed in the past hour and then look at systems which light up on a killboard to see if there'r smarties involved and plan another route.
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>>160998742
>nag is better than the moros in every field of the world
looks is a field
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>>160998762
So now you have recorded proof of physical abuse?

Sound like a huge settlement to me anon.
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>>160998762
>>160998907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QopIJgLAueU
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>>160998765
Is copying bookmarks still super laggy?
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was the infinite mini skill injector bug patched today?
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ALLIANCE BOOKMARKS WHEN?
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>>160999253
I just got back to the game and haven't tried it yet, do you mean dragging them into your cargohold to make a copy?
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Do veterans actually pay the Market Jewâ„¢ prices for plex? or do they go through other channels to buy it from non goldsteins for cheaper?
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>>160999998
I didn't find anything indicating they did. In the past it was always "fixed an undisclosed exploit" if they did.
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>>161000701
>New Eden has been made a better place by fixing potential exploits.

Kind of close to that from todays patch notes.
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>>161000731
well sheid I was going to grind a 1000 of them with the help of virtual machines
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>mass login test
Why are they testing this now? Ascension came out over a week ago.
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>>160999999
>>161000000

>>161000543
eBay, support message so no penalty
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>>161000828
Probably to do with their new shit e-mail validation system.

People are having trouble with it left right and center.
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>>161000860
Well I mean, with ISK.
Like is their a chat channel or something people use or do they just accept the market prices
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>>161001040
Pretty much everyone uses Jita price for PLEX.

If you look really hard or ask around you may find one that's 10 mil below it.
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>>161001185
Thanks
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what corp should a retarded newbie join?
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>>161001247
Karmafleet
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>>161001297
>reddit literally in the name
are you trying to ruse me?
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>>161001342
>retarded newbie
>retarded
Definitely karmafleet
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>joining meme corps
>not joining tengoo
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>tengoo
>not a meme corp
You sure are going all-out with that bait
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Why has nobody created an EVE bank that gains you interest as they use your funds to enrich themselves on the market like stocks
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>>161001764
Because it would inevitably be a scam
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>>161001746
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>>161001764
People have done exactly that. It turned out to be a scam (who knew).

There are no game mechanics in place to set up a banking system. You can't force them to pay interest (or pay you back at all for that matter)
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>>161001807
Yeah, get that, but it would be a cool experiment with somebody trustworthy at the helm anyway.

I guess the market isnt really that in depth to work right anyway and would require massive botting
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>>161001883
It turned out to be a scam (who knew).

kek, alright alight
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You don't know what you're talking about. I'm running a totally legit (small) banking operation myself.

Just send your isk to me and I will keep it safe.
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>>161002226
Sent ;^)
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>>161002257
Sir I can't accept food stamps

Fucking minmanigger I swear
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>>160999253
If it's several hundreds or more, yes.
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>>161002435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ882QYzr-M
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NICE SCAM CCP YOU KEKS
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i can't find the join new chat channel button
help
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>>161002765
it's a FREE game, stop being ENTITLED
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>>161002872
nevermind, fixed it
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>>161003460
Think you missed the part where they are selling 1 plex for 167.00 USD
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>>161004041
nice photo shop
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>>161004041
you're literally saving $-148.04, stop whining
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>>161004194
kek
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Sup /dog/ quick question.
Will Phoenix (16,5m m3) fit into empty Ship Maintenance Bay (20.0m m3 capacity)?
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>>161004313
Are you trying to stuff a pheonix into a XLSCAA?
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>>161004571
nah, I'm talking about normal SMA
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>>161005014
I suppose you can
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Would slapping a probe launcher in place of one spehss vacuum on a prospect for wh ninja mining be silly? You have a time limit for how long you can huff gas but you don't have to fuck around with switching ships or pooping out mobile warp to me depots.
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>>160992283
Just spend a year making all possible fits and have someone tell you why they are shit
After that you should be able to make your own in fa few seconds
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>>161007234
yes, -50% mining yield because you can't be bothered to drop a depot for 60 seconds then scoop it is very bad

if people are trying to kill you, they can try to do it while you're mining too
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>>160997306
>3 hours of looking for a fight
finding fights is a skill desu
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0IvL4__7u4
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>jita
>set waypoint kedama
>avoid tama, plausibly
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>>161007824
kek
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>>161008289
Nevermind they literally just fixed it, that or it only does that to MY account kek
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>zkill
>top kills
>alliance tournament ship, full faction fit
>jelly poorfags commenting
why does this happen every time?
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>mfw f1 anchor line shitters criticising people's fits
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Why is recruiting for a wormhole corp such a pain in the ass?
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>>161008841
because wormholers are all aspies
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>>161008841
What corp?
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>>161009050
tengoo
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>>161009050

Coelacanth Operations

A little autistic corp in a little autistic alliance.
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>>161007824
EVE is real, I was there.
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Is the Maller just perpetual trash at PvP or is there some way to make it redeemable?
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>>161009753
Super tank it as a bait ship.
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>>161009258
What kinda WH you sitting in, I'm dumb and joined BRAVES WH Corp.
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>>161009753
why do you think it's bad? are you retarded?
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>>161011164
seems like nodmg to me
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>>161008547
Their FC said it was a shitfit, so naturally, it's a shitfit goy.
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>>161011298
>5 guns with a damage bonus

this is the same as other cruisers
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>>161011340
Does one have to anchor and password protect mobile depots?
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>>161011667
And also do they appear on overviews when deployed into space or when they come online. Or some other time?
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>>160996553
C1 WORMHOLES **ALWAYS** HAVE THE DESCRIPTION "ONLY MEDIUM SIZE SHIPS CAN ENTER THIS WORMHOLE"

EVERYTHING ELSE IS C2 UPWARDS ("LARGE SHIPS")

EZMODE
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>>161007245
>And have someone tell you why they are shit

This is something that holds me back. No fit is going to be perfect for every situation, but you can't always know the situation you'll be in. And so it's impossible to always choose the best fit, and because I'm an autist and need to do things the most optimal way, I end up not doing anything at all

How do I fix?
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I just started a player corp, and I have been doing a bit of mission running, after 3 days of doing missions in my corp. My corp's standings haven't changed(everyone is neutral). What's going wrong?
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>tfw getting tempted to resub to omega
Being locked out of 2/3 of my SP is rough, but 10 bong a month is also rough.

Might do it if there are chill people to fuck about spess with.
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>>160993507
What in the actual fuck makes people reject you like that?
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>>160993507
Don't you need like an active Reddit account to join test?
>>161012358
If you have flown ships enough you will know what is going to happen and how to best fit your ship
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>>161012672
He's probably got thief shit and a garbage history spy crap
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>>161012572
dude incursions lmao
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should i buy the america confessor skin
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>>161012861
Well, what do I do if I haven't flown ships enough? I can't fly ships without fits
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>>161012572
just sell your sp
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Did ccp give convincing reasons for removing the ingame browser?
I don't like the idea having to tab out to look up wormholes and my dog has eaten every notebook I own, so writing it down may not work.
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>>161014184
Insecure as fuck, a chore to maintain because it requires specialized knowledge.
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>>161014184
They fired the guy who originally worked on it and the current crack team of pajeets couldn't figure out how it worked since it wasn't written in java, so they removed it.
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>>161014318
>>161014296
That's gay. Need two monitors to keep local and look shit up because Icelanders can't into not wasting money on retarded vampire shit and a fps for the ps3 at the very end of its lifespan.
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>>161014610
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>>161014989
Yeah I guess that works shittily
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>>161012572
pretty much any /v/ or /vg/ group has no fucking chill and are autism incarnate unfortunately, and so are most le reddit XD groups so you'll have to find a chill group in whatever field you want to work in in EVE
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>>161015778
fuck off cookie
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anyone here going to Eve Down Under?
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>>160992530
It's not in the patch notes, they probably don't care.
Have fun grinding out $2.40 worth of injectors per hour.
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>>161014610
I don't blame them. Working on custom browsers is hellish.
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>>161016105
Having them is sweet though as a player. If all of business was about doing things to benefit yourselves rather than the customers it'd look,,, pretty much like it does today, i guess, but with more hookers and bars.
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>>161015820
what's this cookie meme, I've been out of the game for 3 years and just came back

also goonswarm I think still gets you blacklisted from almost everything else
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>>161016456
>what's this cookie meme
It's a character name and the meme is unfunny, ignore it.
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>>161016725
t. kevin
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>watch plex drop in price every 30 seconds
>it reaches its lowest at 1,018,000,000
>someones starts buying them up

>buy one for myself

did I beat the market jew game?
or did I get ripped
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>>161016975
>plex sale
>tons of newfags
it will drop to ~900mil
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>>161016036
Takes me 20 minutes to do the tutorial
you must be bad at this game
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>>161017042
>1 dollar off subscription price

not sure that will do much
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>>161017042
>faggots not enjoying 10USD subbing

feels good in 3rd world country now
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>>161017910
>not paying for your sub with market jewing isk
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>>161008841
Whenever you kill someone who isn't in a real Corp, chat them up.
If they aren't obnoxious, then try to recruit them.
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>The game is only as boring as you are.
>Just spent a week in jita, doing the .01 jig.
>Didnt even make much money.

I really need to do something. I keep reading about buying bunch of frigates, fitting them and then dying to have fun learning PvP ... but I dont see what can a Kestrel kill. Starting ships and shuttles? What am I missing?
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>>161014318
>since it wasn't written in java
Wasn't EVE made with Python?
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>>161018749
other t1 frigates, dumb pirate frigates, some destroyers
that alone is a lot of ships.
It really only has trouble with good breachers, good pirate frigates and firetails
stop being a faggot and just go out there, you'll be surprised on what shit you can kill, remember most people are shit at this game., the question is, how much less shit are you?
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>>161016247
Might as well ask for an in-client spreadsheet while you're at it.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>161018802
they use a code converter
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Is orthrus the official /eog/ ship?
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>>161018749
>doing the .01 jig.
The display rounds to 2 digits, but ISK goes to 4.
Do the .0001 jig, the display hides that you're winning the orders.
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official /kys/ ship more like

plate hound desu
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>>161019258
Arty Vaga is the official /dog/ ship.
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>he can't handle pirate ships
lmao loser
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>he can't kill a machariel in a full t1 maulus
neck yourself desu
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>>161019460
>arty vaga
laughing_orthrii.jaypeg
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>>160994606
Free content, reps like a logi chain, wh space, fleet of rattle on demand.

Ill be fine.
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what will orthrus friends do when rlml nerf happens
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>>161020663
never ever happening
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>not triple bcs with rage missiles
>actually trying to make it practical with missile precision shit

what's even the point
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>>161018749
You don't see it because you haven't done it. That's the point building the ships and then flying them. The kestrel is a badass ship. Here's a guide from on of the better pilots in it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AGKGGgTEbkO5m1z9hNkf0H7ChnsQjvOaS-GIRNAl6qo/edit#
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>>161019049
If we had one before and it was taken away I'd complain about it too, but losing the browser really hurts if you have one monitor and need to look up stuff in dangerous space.
>>
If I have my heart set on stealthy transport ships, is the Amarr version at least capable of doing the job and moving things through bubbles or should I dump skills in another race's industrial skill? Doesn't matter if amar isnt' best, so long as it works.
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I was told a couple years ago that mining was basically a waste of time compared to pretty much every other form of money-making. Is that still true?
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>>161022945
This is a video game.
Do what is fun for you.
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>tfw you think you have stuff in stock but you actually don't
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>>161022945
Mining is dependable isk. I think the guys who actually made bank off of it were multiboxing with a bunch of ships and foreman links. You can still do well with it if you stick that character in a corp that does mining and always has links out and if they can kill the time by chatting on voip that's fucking cruical.
Literally everything sucks by yourself, even if it gives you some more isk. Exploring may be different at times but it's because your shit is at risk of dying on those occasions.
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>make an extremely cute girl in a character creator
>spend a hour rotating her around, taking pictures and playing with expressions
>start the actual game
>get bored within a hour
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>>161024447
Nothings stopping your from just sitting in station and reading the descriptions of ships and shit. Getting to know the game. EVE really isn't some 300apm action
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>>161024447
maybe this game isnt for you.
try newgrounds.com.

They have plenty of dress up games for little kids just like you!
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>>161022112
Is the document supposed to be fucked up? The right side is cut off a bit. Anyway, thanks I will take a look, station trading isnt as exciting as I expected.
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>>161024590
but i wasn't playing dress up you rude dude
how do you even do that in a game with 7 clothing options
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>he wears default clothes
shiggle
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>>161024678
Just saying m8
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As an alpha clone, if i go into WH exploration will I die instantly in my shitty exploration frigate (cant train cloaking on alpha)
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>>161025445
Pretty much, yes.
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>>161025445
no if you keep to the sites that don't have rats and don't get attacked by players
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>he joined BRAVE
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>>161025445
Likelyhood is high, but not 100%.
As long as your deep inside like 3 WH's, you might be safe for at least one chace at relics/data

Also, only do pirate sites otherwise it will have spawn
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>>161025445
Pay attention to your DScan at all times. If you start seeing combat probes/sisters combat probes it's time to leave and go somewhere else. Other ships won't be able to bother you if you drop a bookmark somewhere mid-warp (Ctrl+B).
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do i use approach, orbit or keep at range for shooting stuff?
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>>161022217
>if you have one monitor
Buy one used for cheap.
$10-20 by quality and availability.
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>>161026058
this post is triggering
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>>161026152
sorry dude i just started playing
should i manually click around?
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>>161026213
all of the above
>>
watch chessur videos
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>>161026213
I don't know how to answer. it depends what weapons, what you're flying and what you're fighting against
>>
>>161026058
>do i crouch, sprint, or walk while playing an fps?
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>>161026058
Answering this question is called piloting skill and it takes a while to get down correctly. Manual piloting by clicking in space is generally best unless you are using a slow ship that doesn't need to move anyway in which case whatever.

If you click approach and the enemy is using turrets, you move in a straight line towards him and he gets a perfect shot off. This is a great way to get instagibbed by an oracle.
Approach is, however, mostly functional and will get you moving in the direction of the enemy barring some fringe cases where he's really fast.

Orbit doesn't actually orbit the target unless you are at the correct distance already. It approaches/moves away from him first in a more or less a straight line, then tries to circle around him. Orbit is abusable as fuck and you really shouldn't use it unless you want to orbit a stationary target like a stargate.

Keep at range is for turret kiting for the most part, or anchoring on a friendly so you don't bump into things if he stops.
Again, abusable as fuck, but better than orbiting in many cases

Watch some videos and fly around in a frigate with nanofiber internal structures in asteroid belts to figure out how moving, inertia, distance and bump hitboxes work.

Also, use your tactical overlay.
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>>161023285
>were multiboxing with a bunch of ships and foreman links.
The multiboxers just use a few ships. If you see a bunch of ships, it's a corporation or it's bots.
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>>161027109
What he said and also when you're in a big ship that shouldn't be able to hit a smaller target well, use the look at command on the target, rotate the camera to view it from behind and keep double clicking in space in the direction it's going. this will help to minimize transversal and get some damage in.
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>>161027541
>not just aligning in a direction on its orbital plane
>>
What lowsec alliance should I join
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>>161027109
it sounds like you only fly kiteshit and interceptors
>>
>>161027109
>>161027541
alright thanks
tactical overlay is pretty cool
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>>161027979
Well if you are in something else, you aren't so much flying as you are moving in the general direction of the enemy while discharging your guns with the one exception being attempting to match velocity vectors to minimize transversal, but that's mostly theory anyway because everyone involved is probably webbed to shit and is barely moving.
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>>161027796
>he fights bads who orbit
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>>161028368
>he is a bad who reduces his velocity trying to fly in a tight circle in a big ship
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>>161028498
Good luck with your orbit button method.
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>>161028607
good luck with your manual orbit, as though it can somehow orbit more quickly, except you'll fall behind and die
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>>161010136

C2 with highsec and C4 statics
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>lowsec
>alliance
Solo or go to null.
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>>161028368
Question regarding that: I've been doing FW in a rocket AB breacher. My rockets and scrams have around a 7k range so I've been using orbit at 5k with my AB on (If I set it to orbit any further away it goes out of my rocket range) to try to "speed tank." Were I to try to manually pilot at such a close range while going 1kmps+ wouldn't I quickly move out of range? So far most of my fights have been against hybrid turret users like Coraxes or Gallente frigates. It seems to work well against railguns but blasters hit me for a lot. What would I do differently to better deal with blaster ships? So far I've been orbitting at 5k hoping the slightly longer range will make it harder for them to hit me due to blasters' short optimal.
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>>161028691
>>161028607
>>161028498
>>161028368
Manual orbiting can actually get you a tighter orbit than orbiting at 500, but it's a fringe case and is only relevant if you have a weapon system that doesn't track or tracks much better than the opponent. And he also doesn't have 60 niggers on the way to help him out because good luck running away if you get scram webbed at 20 meters.
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>>161028982
>manually pilot at such a close range

it's a meme, just use orbit. it's literally the same

you should orbit up close vs rails btw. you might try keeping at range slightly out of your max range vs blasters if you have to, if the guy chases you it extends your effective missile range

>>161029030
you are never going at full speed on a 500 orbit. going in a tighter orbit means you go slower and have effectively the same transversal, even if you are super elite at pointless manual piloting and can go in a perfect circle
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>>161029190
>you might try keeping at range slightly out of your max range vs blasters if you have to
If I do that won't it just fly straight away from him, giving him a straight shot? Or does that not matter since small blasters have such good tracking and I should try going for falloff damage avoidance instead?
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>>161029334
generally you want to choose, are you going to outtrack the enemy up close, or outrange him from afar. you aren't going to outtrack the best tracking guns in the game from out of their range.

and yes, flying straight away from him is what you want, so he's flying straight into your missiles, which extends their range
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>>161029334
Small blasters have really good tracking. You might be able to outtrack neutrons with void on an incursus, but I would not count on it.

It does not matter that you are going in a straight line when his range is short. You still get hit when he loads null, but most people are too dumb to start the fight with null and some don't even carry it.

Protip: you should be loading null/schorch into your blasters/pulses by default, then swap to void or antimatter or the appropriate crystal if the situation calls for it.

Unless you're waiting at the beacon on 0 waiting for a retard to come in.
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>>161025445

I made 500 million in around a week doing WH in heron without cloak.

May be harder now with all the alphas around though.
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>>161029190
>just use orbit. it's literally the same
When I drop my web off of you and stick a volley up your ass as your ship adjusts for distance in a straight line, it is not the same.
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>>161030242
XD lol ur so epic, link kill mail
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>>161025445
I run a Probe in holes without cloak.

Costs 1mil to fit, so one wh site pays for it tenfold.

Sure the risk of getting popped is high, but the loss is minuscule and the potential reward is so high.
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>>160976203
Is it normal for an agent to disappear from the station's agent list?
>look up starter agents on eve-agents
>Alagghey Colliaert in a backwater
>travel and do her mission, destroy a guarded repair station
>turn it in
>she disappears from the station for me, still shows up in agent finder
>every time I hit start conversation, it replies with the standard "Sounds good. Stop by so we can formalize the mission contract."

Is this bugged?
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>>161031032
I kinda agree with CCP for not allowing cloak on alphas, but at the same time I don't. I really hope they rethink some of the locked skill choices.
>>
svipul nerf when
>>
I get that you raise standings by doing missions, etc. but what about the empires? I do missions for caldari navy all day and never see any boost to caldari state.
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>>161031137
You see agents who have offered you a mission no matter where you are. You were at the destination station. She's still back at her home.
>>
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Faction_Standings
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Gaining_faction_standings_fast
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>>161033207
It happens, it's slow. Make sure you're looking at faction standings for the change.
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>>161032871

We don't need an unlimited amount of cloakies sitting in systems.
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>>161033323
Nah it was a security mission, the destination was the same place I received it.
If I leave the system, it just points me back to that station too.
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>>161033667
Dunno then. Try a ticket if showing info on the corp and going to the agents tab says you're in her home.
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>>161021018
>200dps tank
just fit an extender
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>have a only a few hundred million and an old half trained link alt
>buy skill extractor, use it, sell it by two more
>repeat process
That link change really was the best ever. Now I have 3 billion and a sneaky space trucker who can only fly covops, blockade runners and a prospector for gas, no mining skills. I'm off to npc null so I don't have to deal with alphas having found all the holes from highsec already.
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>naming yourself a space trucker without owning at least one freighter and one jump freighter
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>>161035210
Fuck that noise. I ain't fucking around with alts this time, even just a cyno alt. I'll drive a space van, I don't give a fuck.
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>>161033660
If they use shitty cloaks with shitty skills then it's not any different from now.
If you die to a t1 cloak with Cloaking 1 then you pretty much deserved it for being asleep at the wheel.
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>>160995426
>/ourguy/
I cringed
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>>160995426
>posts here
>wants to know if he's our guy
Yes, Anon. You are our guy though and through.
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>>160995505
>Mine in highsec for a week
>Sell a plex
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>>160995426
>bought premium edition for $15
>sold extra month since I might not have interest
>can do ANYTHING and afford replacement costs with no worry

I'm having fun. I decided to buy a bunch of Gnoses on a whim so I may have to buy another one.
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>>161009753
As opposed to minmatar which has an edge at destroying ships smaller than its size, Amarr ships have the strength enough to stand its ground against a larger sized ship, for a example a well fitted maller can be a good match versus a hurricane or cyclone.
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Why are the 50mn meta MWDs exactly the same? Is CCP trying to remove variation? Is this happening to all types of modules?
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>>161036672
What? They all have different stats.
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>>161036672
training speed and cost you retard
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>>161036827
I was looking at the cold gas and the quad LIF. From the attributes to the fitting they seemed the same to me.
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>>161036876
quad has less signature and capacitor penalty but cold-gas has less activation cost
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>>161036846
>literally say meta
>this guy responds with training speed and cost you retard
Lordy, lordy.
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>>161036962
I see it. Font and text size had me looking at 160 and 180 and not noticing a difference.
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Did we hit rock bottom?
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>>161037275
I stopped watching after 10 seconds, did I do the right thing
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>>161037275
>interested in EVE
>see this
>NOPE.jpeg
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>that's a real advertisement
W e
w
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Can Alphas not sell Omega-exclusive items?

I found a Mobile Warp Disruptor in a wormhole and went to Jita to sell it, but it's not giving me the "sell" option when I right-click it.
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>>161038326
drag it to your item hangar
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>>161038370
Goddammit, I keep forgetting.
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>>161036002
Make sure you're only in wormhole class 1 2 or 3, anything above will have shit you can't use. Nullsec has tons of alphas roaming around so wormholes are your best bet.
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>>161025812
Unless you got into a wormhole where some faggot already scanned all the sites, so he can just d-scan you and jump on the right site.
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>>161037275
jesus christ
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>>161038770
>tfw this happened to me earlier
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why does caldari seemingly have the best everything

>jita
>good mission hubs
>great skillset for alphas
are they CCP's attempt at self-inserting?
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>>161039689
>jita
And while we at it, why did they choose Jita 4-4?
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>>161039689
Anyone can shop at Jita or mission for Caldari corps.
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>>161039778
probably had an agent

>>161039689
before rapid hitlers there was a lot of people who would nonstop moan about how bad missiles are because they want to be f1 anchor babbies
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>>161039689

Because capitalism makes you efficient.
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>>161031032
>Costs 1mil to fit
What do you have outfitted?
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>>161039778
>And while we at it, why did they choose Jita 4-4?
Who's "they"?

The main hub used to be Yulai, which was literally the hub of the map... for, uh, lore reasons.
But it was *so* populated that CCP said, "this server strain is bullshit" then cut all the good routes.
At the time, Jita had the best missions of any trade hub (best Caldari missions period, for that matter).
So anyways, all the mission runners fucked off to Jita. And the jews followed the market.
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what are the active /v/ corps right now?
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>/v/ corps
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Are BCs going to be not worth it for the a while? I'm thinking about siphoning off some SP from my missile pilot and I don't even want to see any more drakes, much less fly one.
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>>161040575
you'd probably know if your group wants you to fly a bc. if you're solo then I wouldn't bother, although the gallente ones are alright
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>>161040636
I was always in RvB. There's nothing going on there now so I've no group, but anyone that wants me in a Drake can suck it. I'll train logi first before I do that.
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>>161035835
It's not necessarily that they are a danger themselves, but "afk cloakers" are a constant and really just annoying threat. Someone in local you can't do anything about.
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>>161040636
I just talked myself into it with
>>161040872
Thanks though, don't think I ever would ditch harbies or myrms on my gunnery pilot. People always seem happy to aggress the 'shitty' ships nobody flies.
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>>161040872
drakes are not good really. in blobs it's all about feroxes, or canes if you're bad
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What's the best ship for L4 security missions, is it still the Drake / Raven?
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>>161041053
>ferox is used
What fucking game did I return to?

>>161041132
Tengu, do them with friends or you'll burn out, even if they don't pull equal weight it's worth it.
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>>161041132
lol
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>>161041231
what's so funny?
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does eog ever play together?
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>>161041293
>drake
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>>161041426
What's wrong with it? I haven't played in a while, but the drake used to be the go-to ship for soloing l4's
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>>161041132
those were never the best. since then I think we've had the sentry drones meme and the gurista ships meme, and I guess the bastion marauders meme. the best ship is probably one of those

>>161041205
long range medium turrets used to be extremely unpopular, nobody ever used them for anything ever, even though they were ok. CCP came along and gave them like +33% dps. there's really a lot of popular ships that use them now because they're very overpowered. all the BCs got built in 25% range bonuses, and the ferox kept its normal 50% range bonus, so you end up with a ship that scales well into long range F1 blob cancer. the other turret BCs aren't necessarily bad, but in F1 blobs it's all about range. a beam harbinger with 2 heat sinks gets 750 dps at 20km with MF, rail brut is about the same, which is silly high, but without broken range it's more suitable for smaller gangs
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>>161035835

It's not necessarily about cloakies killing you; it's about them providing intel.
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>>161041523
pretty sure it has never been go-to
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>>161041523
it used to be very accessible, popular and easy to fly, but it was never the best or anything
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>>161041523
Drake was the poor man's choice, it's actually pretty slow compared to anything else, really.
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>>161041523
The Drake is what you fly lvl 4s with while you're training your tengu, or raven if you insist. They can do them but it's slower than the t3 cruiser or the bs by a fair amount.
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Can someone explain why my autocannons' damage seems to be so random? One enemy to the next my volleys do wildly varying damage without any change in circumstances. Same distance, ammo type, target ship type, etc.
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>>161041320
None of us actually play.
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>>161039862
If you do factional warfare as the opposing factions though, then you'll probably have to grind some standing to recover that.
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>>161041857
>>161041916
>>161042232
>>161042276
Appreciate the input

I'm still a relative newbie at around 6 months and the Drake just seemed like the logical next step. Really don't want to drop ~200mil on a Tengu right off the bat.
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>>161042314
Are you firing at hull sizes smaller than your guns?
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>>161042314
Autocannons generally fire in falloff all the time. You can still *hit* things from 9k with small autos, it's just going to do less damage, miss every other cycle. Some minmatar ships have absolutely silly falloffs that 40k almost half your optimal damage.
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>>161042613

Nope. In fact I tend to do a lot more damage to destroyers/cruisers/BCs than I do BSes. Flying a BS by the way.
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>>161041205
>even if they don't pull equal weight it's worth it.
this
find fairly new friends and occasionally blow up their ships for lulz. chances are their ships are cheap to rebuild and are more than covered by the mission payout.
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>>161042314
When you engage beyond optimal range there is a lot more RNG
Projectile guns have huge falloff ranges
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>>161042585
>200mil on a tengu

Try 600mil startingl, read up on how t3 cruisers work.
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>>161042585
The drake is a fine next step. Being slower doesn't mean being awful and we're only talking slower than if you had good skills for the raven. If you go the tengu path skilling up the drake makes your tengu better for every skill other than BC. I wouldn't recommend rushing the tengu, by the time you have the skills to do it justice 600 mill is fine. I just love it because it's small. You slap a 10mn ab on it and take no damage anymore.
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How fucked are the grids on hubs with these damn depots now?
I'm trying to make a damn insta undock at Jita and the grid just seems endless.
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begging for a referral like op told me

[email protected]
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>>161044505
>Invalid e-mail address

Lmao
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>you'll never hear Aura's voice again
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>>161044713
>A friend in has sent you an EVE Online invitation!

someone did it first? anyway, thank you! what's next?
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>>161044817
Just create an account, you'll get a 250k SP bonus if you use the link you received.
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https://soundcloud.com/ccpgames/eve-online-aura-skill-training
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>>160976203
If I make a bunch of alts and get a bunch of mini skill injectors, can I use them all at once, while still bellow 750,000 skill points, to get way over 750,000 skill points? would that work? or are they used one after another?
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>>161045116
It did work, they may or may not have patched it yesterday, don't know if anyone has tested it since then.
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I was expecting you to own the box. This is way funnier.
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>>161045208 I really, really doubt they care. It's a horrible inefficient use of time.
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>>161045116
I did it two days ago
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>>161045376
smart

that's 2 months of training right there
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>>161045462

4 months when you consider alphas train at half speed
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Something really weird just happened, i was flying a heron and after docking in jita it became a fucking velator, is this shit a bug or there's a way it can happen?
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>>161045616
>transphobia
It's 2016, anon.
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>>161045376
shit I don't really want to do the tutorial over and over but that's a good value for a new character

I have like, 3 of them right now
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>>161045880
It's over, well, omegas can't do it.
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>>161045960

Did they patch it?
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>>161045960
The tutorial? It just has to be a new account, Alphas on old accounts don't get the new tutorial either.
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Question about blitzing missions: sometimes when I'm doing a mission I'll notice that I got completion credit before killing all the guys, even if the mission description was "kill everything at the site". Is there some way I can determine exactly which guys I need to kill so I'm not wasting extra time?
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>>161046053
http://eve-survival.org/
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>>161045880
I did 5M so I could max out all the alpha skills and have change incase I sub in future. If you have a specific skill build you are going for, just work it out in evemon then grind that many MSI
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>>161046053
look up the triggers
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>>161045960
what does it say?

the original description almost implied was meant to be used that way


>This can only be used on characters with less than 750,000 skill points.

Its like they're telling us to use as many as possible at 749,000 skill points
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>>161046001
It didn't work for me with a pilot with 600k and one with 480k is all I know.
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I forget the exact wording but it told me I couldn't use this thing again as I had over 750k when I didn't. Learned and unallocated I was under.
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>>161046167

What do you mean? Did it say you could activate them together?
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>>161046269
I mean i had under 750k and 16 of those things stacked together on a new pilot still in rookie help with an omega account and it wouldn't do it. It wouldn't do all 16, wouldn't do 4, wouldn't do 1. That pilot had already done 1 as part of the tutorial, that could have been my mistake.
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Why do ships no longer appear in the station tab on the right?

Do I have to go into my inventory every time I want to switch ships?
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>>161035210
>getting cucked by CODE instead of just paying some sucker pennies to haul your shit
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>>161046407

Do you still have them? You could try giving all of them to a new character at that part of the tutorial and activating them all together
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>>161046594
I found out links were on grid and in range and murdered the shit out of my link alt's SP. So I'm just moving on. Wasn't that much grinding, didn't do anon's 5mill path.
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>>161037275
>eve player since 2011
>still hasn't got his revenge
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>>161031032
what's yer fit lad?
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>>161046719
Maybe it just flags the char because you were over the sp limit before using extractors
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If I'm scanning something and the scan percentage just won't get any higher no matter how close I get to the signal or how small I set the search area, does that mean I need better probes or better scanning equipment?
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>>161046985
I wasn't over the 750k limit.
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>>161047181
Yes. Try leveling your skills, upgrading from core probes to sister probes, or fitting a scanning strength array to your mids.
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>>161047181
in some cases when you get to a high % you may need to customly move the probes around to get a proper scan
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>>161046523
figured it out

under settings you need to select "merge items and ships with station panel" no idea why this isn't enabled by default
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>>161045462
4,238,510 SP to max an Amarr
4,020,166 SP to max a Caldari
4,318,012 SP to max a Gallente
4,207,191 SP to max a Minmatar

*may have miscounted, but it's quite accurate
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>he calls it toon
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>>161031032
how do you pay only 1mil to fit? making the gas harvesters yourself? cuz those are the most expensive part at 2 mil each.
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>>161048132
it should be max 500,000
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Why is it so hard to find a lowsec corp that doesnt have a life and just wants to roam around shooting things akk day and night?
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>>161039689
Jita is the system thats pretty much closest to everything, its an average of 15 jumps to everything
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>>161048617
I'm going to assume 500,000 is a typo, and that you meant 5,000,000.
CCPs statement was "fully trained Alpha will have roughly 5 million skill points".
Roughly being the keyword there.

Those are *maybe* all 90,510 too low. So no, they're very accurate.
Alpha clones max out around 4.2 million. Do the math yourself, or shut up.
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>>161049023

I'm a Gallente Alpha clone and I have 4,477,724 SP

That's without:
Mining Connections
Distribution Connections
Marketing
Corp Management
Gas Cloud Harvesting
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>>161049327
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Whelp, I guess the Eve Uni list is inaccurate.

You got a list of the differences?
Wouldn't be to hard to calculate the correct amount from that.
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Would this work in FW or am I a complete moron for having a passive shield tank?
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>>161049802
fit bigger guns, neutrons or don't undock
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>>161049802
That's fine. Don't worry about the neutrons anon mentioned if you can't fit them but work on getting AWU up sooner rather than later.
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>>160995756
The skill system was one of the things that made me want to play EVE
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fuck I want to fly interceptors but I'm just an alpha
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>>161049802
Oh, one thing though is that fit is pretty expensive. It performs better than a cheaper fit would but you may not be at the point yet where you're really taking advantage and you could probably easily buy two or even more ships with meta 3 modules for the price of that fit there while you learn what to do. Just mix and match what you want to keep tech 2 like guns or whatever.
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>>161050194
Your race has a fast t1 frig. Join a corp that gets into fights a lot and fly those as tackle so you'll be ready when you can actually fly inties.
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Can alpha clones use t2 modules?
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>>161050372
some but not most
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Is there some kind of no life corp that just flys around shooting things instead of ship spinning like all the big corps that i joined?

Cause Brave Test and Horde are pussys and didnt wanna fight things.
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>>161050450
Wormhole corps are all scanning, all the time.
But the shoot pretty much everyone they find in w-space.
Pretty easy to join too, since they have trouble finding recruits.
Just ask any wormholer who kills you. They'll let you in.
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>>161049732
http://pastebin.com/1wQCjd1n

Thats all my skills from EVEMon, only things missing are

Mining Connections (Up to 2)
Distribution Connections (Up to 2)
Marketing (Up to 2)
Corp Management(Up to 1)
Gas Cloud Harvesting(Up to 2)
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>>161050450
Go solo. Are brave really napfest nowadays?
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>>161050282
I found a null corp that gets into a lot of fights, and I'm flying an atron right now. Enjoying the playstyle of tackling a lot, I live to go fast
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>>161050596
>Just ask any wormholer who kills you. They'll let you in.
Not quite.
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Are sisters of eve core probes really worth the price? t1 probes are super cheap in comparison.
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>>161050680
Well there you go. Now you just need 15 bucks a month. I highly recommend paying CCP for your first few months because earning a plex is a lot easier when you have the skills to make isk faster. People burn out trying it with low skilled accounts.
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>>161050728
>people in wormholes who aren't in wormhole corps won't recruit (You)
Eh, semantics. If you don't live in w-space, you aren't a wormholer.
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>>161050859
I'm already being fed the skillbooks and cheaper ships/modules I need, so I think I'll sub soon to lower the train times. Eve is surprisingly fun, people called it all spreadsheets but it's none of that so far
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>>161050781
You get what you pay for. Maybe wait till you're in a covops and know how to fly it to never die while traveling and you'll only ever need one set of probes.
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>>161050889
>Eh, semantics.
we have a recruitment process you know
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>>161050618
I only counted 3 categories, and you over leveled all of them.
Only by a few hundred points each though.

Maybe you *really* over invested points into one or two skills, or something.
I honestly can't be assed to dig through all that.
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>>160990207

the caracal has been a meme for years
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>>160993795

made me laugh anon thank you
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>>161051297
>overleveled

How? I'm an alpha.
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What's up with rigs not needing skills to fit? Is this how it is now forever?
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>>161051464
You can always dump excess skill point into things.
You just won't get any benefits from the training.
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>>161051718
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>>161051718
Wait what how?

Why is this even a thing to do?
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>>161051058

^
Our recruitment process is probably the most autistic and paranoid out of any in the game.
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>Why is this even a thing to do?
Because you used to be able to lose training on death.
It was easily avoided, but buffers could be convenient.
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>>161051534
They removed that to make it a bit less skill-heavy.
You can still skill up all those skills and they will reduce the rig drawbacks, which is actually fairly important for minmaxing.
>>
oneiros
>>
>Spend an hour roaming around lowsec FW systems looking for fellow alphas I might stand a chance against
>DScan plexes
>Literally every single ship is a t2/faction/pirate frigate which will surely rape me
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>>161055520
fair fights don't exist in EvE

remember that
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>>161055520
Im in the same position as you I cant find anything at all that isnt a gate camp or sabre hunting down alpha noobs I just wanna join a nice comfy group of 4-5 people that go hunting noobs to pew pew but i cant find any NEETs with the same schedule as me.
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>>161055658
It seems to be a complete tossup. Two days ago I engaged a Corax and effortlessly obliterated it, yet yesterday I took the same t1 frig fit and engaged an Incursus who raped me. According to the killmails the Corax had t1 railguns and an overall shitty fit and the Incurses had t2 blasters, but there doesn't really seem to be any way to tell these differences aside from doing show info on them and making assumptions based on things like their character age so even among t1s it's hard to know what I should and should not engage.
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>>161055520
>>161055850
Just had a pretty good fight as a Kestrel against a Merlin he was dual webifier and really short range and i couldnt get away so he melted me.

There are good fights to be had just gotta look in places that arent full of noobs and noob hunters
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>>161056003
Cormorant*, not Corax
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If someone has a skull next to their name, does that mean you can attack them without CONCORD reacting?
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>>161056781
Yes, but if you do they can attack you back for 5 minutes. Be careful as oftentimes people will try to trap people using it.
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>All these hardcore elitist's jerking each other off in a starter NPC Corp

Is there anything more pathetic? God I need to find a real corp soon.
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>>161056920

If someone has suspect status and you attack them, can their fleet mates assist them in killing you without concord intervening? I was missioning earlier and a suspect frigate was following me but I didn't smash him because I was paranoid about some kind of elaborate ruse to gank me.
>>
>eve had a rough few years
>lower active players every year from peak
>finally goes f2p

In the past few years, so many mmos have come and gone. It's heartbreaking to see servers get merged and guilds die off.

So unless wow ever goes f2p, eve will probably be the last mmo worth committing to.

Hopefully we can see steady growth, instead of the typical pop and drop from a f2p release.
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why can't i warp to my bookmarked wh? just started exploring wormholes and 3 nested wormholes in i realized i couldn't warp to any of my bookmarks including the wh exit i just came from. my alpha clone's heart can't handle this much stress.
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>>161058406
If you actually bookmarked them you should be able to, dunno
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>>161058256
> so many mmos have come and gone.
Rest in peace, Ultima Online.
You made lots of shit changes right off the bat, but you were a better cutthroat sandbox than EVE.

>So unless wow ever goes f2p
WoW already stole the PLEX system. Most MMOs have.
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>>161059025
>WoW already stole the PLEX system. Most MMOs have.

true, but WoW still has an expansion every 2 years

>>161058256
>Hopefully we can see steady growth, instead of the typical pop and drop from a f2p release.

I just hope they give alpha clones more options, locking them out of cross-training is just stupid
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>>161059198
EVE gets new content every month.
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Is there any way to make a Procurer warp disruptor resistant without it being retarded?
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Is there a more beta thing to do than target paint duty?
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>>161059327
I know, my point was that WoW isn't entirely free since they still try to jew you out of 50 bucks every 2 years.
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>>161059434
Using your alt as a target for your corp to generate content
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>>161059434
yeah

being a tackler
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Is there a point to running drone sites? Does the salvage every drop anything good?
>>
So why does this game look so good but play so shitty? EVE 2 with real ship sim fighting when?
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>>161060338
Just wait for Star Citizen :^)
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>>161055520
If you really want honorabu 1v1 pvp, wormholes are your best bet.

Someone post the ranks for each eve activities that is used to be the OP
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>>161060737
>Literally every single ship is a t2/faction/pirate frigate
vs
>Literally every single ship is a faction/deadspace fit t3
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I can't stop mining space rocks

help
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Start mining w-space gas
better space dosh

Plus the well optimized graphics might crash your client, freeing you from your self-imposed hell
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will eve run on a complete toaster laptop with integrated graphics?
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>>161061743
>will eve run on a complete toaster laptop with integrated graphics?
The character creator might crash on you, but otherwise you'll have no problems.

EVE is from 2003, you could probably get it to run on a Raspberry Pi if you set graphics to minimum.
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>>161061743
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>>161061743
You could play eve on a gameboy hooked up to a toaster as the graphics card
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>>161058406
>>161058803
I bet he didn't know that you need to bookmark BOTH sides of the wormhole.
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So how do I join Imperium?
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>>161062056 Bookmarking the outside is a Good Idea, but you only need to bookmark the inside.
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>>161062195
By getting back in formation
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are all caldari ships long range missile pussies?
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>>161062759
No, some of them are long range railgun pussies
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>>161062759
Torp golem
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>>161055520
>>161056003
Since making these posts my luck changed pretty rapidly. Been in 4 great fights since then. Won one, lost the second due to making a stupid mistake, and then trounced the last two. Two of the three wins against alphas with t2 guns, too.
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>>161063230
Er, omegas* with t2 guns, rather.
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I though about getting into some wormholin and I wanted to ask ... are the exploration sites in there worth doing? I am fitting a crow to warp around those, but I would need to train hacking to 5 to fit T2 tools.

So is there still money to be made, or did CCP nerf the profits, like they do with anything that is around for some time? I dont need billions, but I would like to pay for the ship and the risk.
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>>161063909
C1-3 wormholes have pirate data/relics sites which are unguarded and have nice loot. My very first trip into a wormhole I did two relic sites and came away with 100m. Didn't even need t2 analyzers. Although you may have a harder time finding sites now-a-days because of all the new alphas doing it.
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Is this an okay fit to do lowsec combat explo in?
change the resist mod for local resists but yeah
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>>161063994
That sounds alright, with my shitty luck, I am going to get a fraction of that, but as long as I make back my ship, its ok. I would think alphas would keep mining with their free ventrue. True eve experience.
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>>161064068
no
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>>161064210
What's wrong with it?
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>>161064240
its not a tengu
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>first time exploring
>decide to go balls deep
>end up in wormhole space
>forget to bookmark exit
WE REALLY ARE GOING BALLS DEEP BOYS
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>>161064104
The ships are pretty cheap and the potential return can be pretty high. I always compare data/relic sites to scratch cards - sometimes you win big, othertimes you get broken equipment that aint worth a damn thing.
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/57534760/

kek
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Whatever happened with Firefly Online?
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>>161064285
Im just peaking into WH im too much of a bitch to go balls deep. But is there even non combat relic/data sites in there? So far all iv found are sleepers.
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>>161064469
Literally just stated, m8. >>161063994

Before entering a wormhole hit "show info" on it. If it says "leads to unknown space" it's C1-3. If it says "dangerous unknown space" it's C4-6. Only C1-3s have the unguarded pirate sites. If you are going in C1-3s and still can't find any pirate sites it's likely because people have already cleared them out. Try going into wormholes that connect with less-trafficed parts of space such as non-fw lowsec or NPC null.
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>>161064285
>forgot to bookmark way out again
>this time this wormhole has literally 24 anomalies
oh fuck me
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>>161064789
>hole has 24 anomalies
>all of them are fucking gas sites
I want data/relics, come on now
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>>161064872
are you me holy shit
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>>161064872
>>161064890
hello!??!
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>>161065047
hi
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/57524153/
Why
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Witness all the dank I'm making off these dumb miners
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>>161064890
Use local, might be the same system.
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what's the fucking point of limiting skill training to one character when you can just have two accounts
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>>161065451
Good goy
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>>161065451
Trial accounts notwithstanding, you have to pay for both accounts

>Regarding non-intuitive shit with trial accounts:
it took CCP 8 years to add the "loot all" button
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>>161065362
>999,957,994

Wat, do people not check on Eve Central where the cheapest is?
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>>161065667
>2
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>>161065752
I'm retarded

What kinda profit margin are you making?
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>>161065808
margin looks like about 150m each
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>>161062396
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Is it viable to solo explore wormholes in poorfag frigates, or will I just get blown up by better ships camping the sites?
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As a Caldari alpha is the Blackbird any good? I want to do faction warfare stuff but do people even bring along the E war ships or is it all just blobs of dps and scrams?
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>>161062195
Apply to Ascendance [ASCEE]. They will take literally anyone.
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>end up in c4 wormhole on first exploration trip
>chased out of 2 data sites by drifter BB fleets
>finally open a relic container after like 6 tries while the cluster counter ticks down
>successfully access container as timer reaches 30 seconds
>16,000ISK est. price
Welp. Back to mining I guess
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>>161066812
>drifter
Meant sleeper
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how long is maintenance usually
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>>161067118
15 is a safe bet if its not a big patch day.
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>>161067203
yeah it's over already
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>>161059025
>Rest in peace, Ultima Online.
Ultima Online is the longest running MMO in history, and its still going and still not free to play.

What are you on about?
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How do i switch characters without restaring the goddamn game
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>>161068156
revert your launcher to before odyssey
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>>161061743
I have a T420 thinkpad with i5 2.5gz, 8gb ram, integrated graphics

as long as you set everything to low graphics, you can play it
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If a mission provides a ship and requires a ship be blown up and I insure that ship do I still get the payout?
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>>161068601
Yeah
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>>161068601
Pretty sure you get an insurance payout even if you didn't insure the ship, for tutorial missions at least.
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>>161068725
You do but I was talking about the suicide bomber Advanced Military career mission.
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>starter military missions send me to kill 7 pirates and pay 200k
>advanced military sends me to finish off an enemy with a civilian gatling
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Lads haven't touched this shit since like 2014. Came to see how shit the game has become and noticed

>EVE IS NOW F2P GOY

Explain.
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>>161070263
the game called "EVE online" is now free to play
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>>161070263
limited skills on free accounts
can only fly ships of your own race
cant go above a crusier
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>>161012489

It takes 7 days for a new corp member to affect corp standings
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>hear EVE is F2P
>make new account and do some exploration
>log on old account
>sub for 6 months in a moment of weakness because I don't have that much Isk and it's cheaper per month
>10 minutes later I waste Isk on plex for alts anyway
>sub new account too because it's just 5 bucks
>spend one week just staring at my ship
Was this CCP's plan all along?
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>>161070263
Free to try is more accurate
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>>161070720
>Was this CCP's plan all along?

You mean to get retards to spend all their autism bux?

Yes
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Should I join low or null for pew?

What are the best options for each?
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How do I fund a new alt without leaving traces in the API? Is it a dumb idea to trade it a bunch of skill injectors in space if I don't want to trigger all kinds of red flags?
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>>161071118
What are you afraid of?
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>>161071118
>Is it a dumb idea to trade it a bunch of skill injectors
If a recruiter is paranoid enough to check for this, he will find out you used skill injectors and that's a pretty big red flag for a "new" player
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>>161058256

FFXIV is much better than WoW now.
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I used to play briefly and explored before they introduced alphas, figured it'd be easy to plex an alpha scanning in stain. Jesus christ man, so many asteros.
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>>161071205
The API doesn't show items being redeemed, does it? You could just give the char plex to sell and buy injectors with that.
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>Minmatar
>Fly in red scrapheaps using primitive projectile cannons
Are they literally Orks?
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>>161071352
scout in stratios
nobody will ever fuck with you, just be aware of actual drops
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>>161071185
I just don't want to tie it to my other accounts. Pretty much everyone wants full API keys and I guess if I give them one they'll just want keys for my other accounts too.
And then they'll start asking why I'm on a low SP char when I have others etc.

>>161071205
What about trading plex in station (doesn't show up right?) and then buying injectors on market?
>>161071395
this, just not sure how that stuff works
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>>161071402
Orks that have better functional technology than the Eldar and the Humans combined.
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>>161071481
Apparently trades still show up in the wallet, so you would need to jetcan it
I await your embarrassing killmail
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>>161071481
>What about trading plex in station (doesn't show up right?) and then buying injectors on market?
There will be an entry in your wallet like "Trade with X" for 0 isk. Jetting in space is the only true way to transfer items without leaving evidence.

But that's not what I was getting at. If you give them your full API, they can see your SP. Now if a day old character somehow has a few million SP, that's a huge red flag. They will know you're not actually a new alt and will probably consider you a spy.
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>>161071076

Depends on what kind of pew you're looking for.

Nullsec has generally better and safer money making opportunities. Pvp is usually a mix of large-scale battles where you follow orders, and smaller-scale home defence stuff against roaming gangs. Some null regions are very quiet and some are hotbeds of pvp activity. How much pvp there is on offer will depend on where the latest big conflict is happening.

Lowsec is a bit harder to make money in, although its definitely possible. Many lowsec regions are pretty dead, aside from faction warfare areas, which are usually much more active. Overall populations and fleet sizes are usually on a much smaller scale, although some big battleship brawls do occasionally happen over a money moon or citadel.
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>>161071481
If you are extra autismal and want to stage a good excuse just deploy a small POS in a random empty system nobody visits with your main or a dummy corp, fill the hangars with ships filled with plex or whatever you want to trade.
Don't put shields up.

Then go kill it on a catalyst, tada, you are just a lucky goy.
People get crazy pos treasures all the time.

Or just jettcan the plex.
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>>161071464
i am trying out alpha.Stratios is a nono.
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>>161072131
oh, good luck goy.
I'd consider ratting with another fellow alpha if I were you.
Exploring right now is exploding with alphas and gankers and without cloak it makes your work a very dangerous chore.
Your best luck is to go into WHs and ride the C1 highway and find empty ones.
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>>161072235
yeah, been seeing if i can find a c1 out here in npc null. then an astero pops up and starts scanning.
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>>161040070
>>161046896
>>161048504
it's really not that hard
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>>161073125
am i the only one that puts warp stabs on my exporers?
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>Do tut
>Do agent tuts
>Do SoE tut

Does the SoE line ever end holy shit it's fucking boring.

Best way to solo make isk?

Where should I park all my shit?
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>>161073934
FW
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>>161073934
level 4 missions in high sec
blitz them shits and make 300m/hr easy
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I wonder if the Rokh, Hyperion, Abaddon, and Maelstrom hulls will ever get t2 variants.

Aside from attack battlecruisers (which are heavily specialized), they're the only t1 hulls without.
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>>161074378
I hope not. we don't need more faggy T2 ships that add nothing to the game
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>>161074378
Whoops, I meant they're the only t1 subcaps without.
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>>161074420
agreed

we need more gorgeous t3s that spice things up some more
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>>161074420
That's a fair point. I can't think of any needed role such an addition would fill.
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>>161074567
>battleships with capital sized weapons
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>>161074251
any missions?
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>>161074251
>lvl 4
>300m/hr
Fat chance.

Maybe if you're blitzing only burners in nullsec.
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Heads up for anyone doing the Mini Skill Injector stacking, just got warned and had my excess SP removed.

They didn't touch my skills though so it's all good.
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>>161075146
>>161074251
Can I run LVL4 burners in a cheap t2 fitted AF with mediocre skills if I put my falcon alt in a Griffin? I'm kinda poor and don't want to spend tons of Isk on a stable of faction frigs.
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What is a good public null station to stock?
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i see what CCP is planning now

close to the end of 2019, ccp will release an undocumented patch in which very rare exploration sites appear around empire space that, when completed, trigger a rift to open and drifters to spill through and start warping to everything in the system and raping the shit out of literally everything, leaving only stable wormholes where once stargates stood

the only places safe from this invasion will be the empire capitals, since this is where ccp will stage last stand events where everyone gets to partake in one last blob against the NPCs for their empire

the final last stand will happen at the EVE gate, which will spontaneously react to the event and reopen, and once the drifters reach it the capsuleers are tasked with forcibly closing the EVE gate before the drifters can make it through

the day after the second collapse of the EVE gate and the game over screen, CCP releases a memorial webpage where every game tick since 2007 lies in plain text format, along with a header with the names of the people who defended the EVE gate


then ccp releases an MMORTS in 2020 about the recolonization of the milky way but it's exclusive to the playstation 5 and dies the day after launch
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>>161075671

The bug was sending Mini Skill Injectors to a characer under 750k SP, stacking them and popping it to get 5M SP

Surprised they didnt ban me desu.

That sounds neat, are you killing the ship, salvaging then reseting?
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>>161074856
Security missions, preferably with an agent in a 0.5 system that isn't too close to lowsec space. Skip missions that can't be easily blitzed.
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>>161075994
That was pretty much it, yes. There's a 5-minute cooldown on loading the tutorial to last save.
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>>161075994

Wait, so if you used them while stacked, it gave you the SP for every injector simultaneously, even if it was over 750k? Jesus. Do normal skill injectors do that too?
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>>161075897
>CCP releases a memorial webpage where every game tick since 2007 lies in plain text format
That's several hundred million ticks.

Every tick must have hundreds of thousands if not millions of actions attributed to it.
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>>161076320
Normal skill injectors don't have a sp cap
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>>161076320

Yes, though its probably gonna be patched VERY soon considering they just slapped me on the wrist for it.

See these screenshots I posted earlier
>>161045376
>>161045497
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>>161076427
Not a hard cap, but they do change how much is given at certain caps.
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>>161076402
>doubt what you're saying
>do the math

my god we really are talking hundreds of trillions of bytes of data here! hundreds of terabytes! absolutely horrifying!
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>>161075308
oh shit senpai, better sell all mine asap
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What ammo do I use against a Tengu when I'm in a Tengu? Not scourge because 90% resist, right?
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>>161077124
blaster tengu, void
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>>161077103
Either sell em or use em.

They didnt touch any of my skills, they just removed the 1.2M Free SP I had.

If I was them I woulda fucking banned me, feels like a slap on the wrist desu
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>>161077242
I have sold about 20 of them for 50 mil each over the last few days, hope those people don't get fucked out of their SP
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>>161077124
depends if its an armor or shield tengu
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>armor tengu

stop shitposting pls
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> be me, 10 minutes ago

> see Magnate on D in muh wormhole

> combat scan him down

> he doesn't notice

> drop on him with Huginn because lol

> popped

> pod his cherry too

> send him 5 mil

Feels good to be a noble gangsta.
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>he doesnt know
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>>161077410
>be me
>get killed by vet player
>he sends me money because Im new
>secretly fuck his wife behind his back while counting my fat stacks of ISK

feels good man
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>he doesn't know that wormhole posting is shitposting
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>lowsec exploration
>align to station
>get too far from rats
>align to a planet on the other side
>nigger with combat recon warps in
>he targets me before my ship is realigned
r e e e
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>>161077124
EM because it has a huge hole to it. Sometimes explosive because they clog up their EM resist so well but don't fix the new explosive hole that is their weakest resist
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Are some ships invulnerable to dscan? Someone just dropped in on me literally 3 seconds after I just got done checking dscan.
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>>161077704
Combat Recon ships I believe are

the Curse, Lachesis, Huginn, and Rook are immune to D-scan
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>>161077704
He was cloaked
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>>161077704
yes, combat recons do not show up on dscan. it's intentional but it's fucking retarded. also cloaked ships obviously
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>>161077742
>>161077757
>>161077769
I didn't see any probes in the system, did he just jump into the data site and happen to find me, or is there a way to track down other ships without being seen?
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>>161077934
maybe he had it probed in advance, some autistic fags do that
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>>161077934
He probably had already scanned the site.
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>>161077934
>scan down sites while nobody is around
>make waypoints to them all
>wait cloaked
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>>161078014

This is the bread and butter of bullying explorers in Jspace, desu.
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>>161077983
>>161077993
>>161078014
Thanks, I was just trying to figure out if I was doing something wrong or if I just drew the short straw.
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>>161078058
>Jspace
is that where theres a bunch of anime girls instead of nebulas in the background?
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>>161078138
>Jspace
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>>161078138
No, just plenty of prominent noses.
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>>161078206
>>161078235
i thought nothing spawned in jita
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>>161078343
:^)
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>>161078343
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I've been digging around in wormholes for a couple days and now have 20 million estimated in shit. Where do I go to sell it?
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>>161079838
Jita.
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>>161079838
That seems pretty low for "couple days" work.

Where else, closest trading hub.
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Lowsec ratters are the biggest sperglords I've seen so far
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Well this explains the creepy ass music
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>>161080517
where does that door go
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>>161080469

All lowsecers are boring husks of human beings.
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>>161080691
what's the problem exactly
>>
What's the point of lowsec exploration if piratebabs bookmark all the sites and then ""patrol"" the systems looking for people doing them.
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>>161080781
you bait them and reverse gank them
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>>161080781
The point of exploration is to make massive amounts of isk.

Do you really think you should be uncontested while making hundreds of millions? Why even play a MMO if you want a single player experience.
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I'm an Omega after the tut.
I like Minmatar. What ship is best all around? Some cruiser until I make big isk?
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>What ship is best all around?

why do you think there would be a best ship
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>>161080901
there's no value in it
the nigger dropped t2 garbage and came back 2 minutes later, with friends
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>>161081002
minmatar doesn't really have any good cruisers since their slot layouts are shit and they all get 1 less gun than every other cruiser
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>>161081168
delet
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Is HAM loki any good?
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>>161081443
No because again it doesn't get many slots. HAM legions and HAM tengus are better because more, stronger bonuses
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>>161081443
it's shit, but not because it has fewer slots or whatever that guy is making up
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>>161081512
yea it is it can only have at most 4 launchers and 4 guns with that dumb missile sub system
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>>161081443
>>161081462
>>161081512
>>161081625
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>>161081667
thats pretty garbage. The Legion gets better bonuses, 6 launchers and way more damage because of it. Also a range bonus IIRC.

Even at that the ham legion doesn't compete with the Ham tengu
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>>161081625
the split weapons subsystem has fewer missile hardpoints than the missile subsystems of other ships
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>suddenly Tengus on Dscan
>they drop probes
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>>161081749
its an awful combo, they really should have just made it one fucking flavor not 2
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>>161081831
the garbage split weapon system is a minmatar speciality
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>>161081804
time to run nigger

>>161080781
why fuck with low? do wormholes or null
they are unironically safer
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>>161081872
>hey guys I'm good at neither system but at least I get 2 of them :^)
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>>161081002
>What ship is best all around?
Friendship
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>>161081831
>>161081872
T3 cruisers should probably just be removed or completely redesigned

split weapons is fine, ccp just needs to fix it on ships where it sucks, rather than removing it and plebbing up the game for bads
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>>161082142
>split weapons is fine,
No its not fine because you get these retarded set ups like the Loki or Sythe Fleet Issue where they only get a limited number of launchers, no fucking damage because they have less than normal slots for each thing

the SFI and Loki are the ONLY ships where they get split weapon systems

They aren't fine, they're garbage. You saying they're "fine" then "they need to be fixed" is completely hypocritical

Remove split weapon systems it doesn't work it never worked and you get garbage bonuses with no other tactical bonuses like range, tracking, etc
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>>161082472
typhoon fleet issue
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>>161082472
some of them need a little buffing. that doesn't mean they should be removed

>Remove split weapon systems it doesn't work it never worked and you get garbage bonuses with no other tactical bonuses like range, tracking, etc

guess I'll go sell my vexor since it's so shitty right. gila buff when?

you're fucking retarded
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>>161082626
another garbage ship that people only use with, it only gets 6 launchers, 4 guns which is SHIT because every other battleship gets either more guns or better bonuses plus bonuses to application, tank, or what ever.

>>161082643
>some of them
ALL OF THEM, the TFI, SFI, and Loki are all garbage with their split nonsense. a Loki with the gun weapon systems to get 6 gun slots is FAR better in every circumstance. This is why the loki is considered the weakest of the T3C's because of poor weapon options and retarded bonuses.

>guess I'll go sell my vexor since it's so shitty right. gila buff when?
You're fucking retarded, Guns and drones are NOT the same as split gun systems with poor high slot layouts that make you great at neither.

You spew this nonsense "they're fine" then I list out a number of areas where they're flat out performed by other ships with unified weapon systems and you devolve to "well they just need fixing" IF THEY NEED FIXING THEY ARENT FINE
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>>161082848
>TFI
>SFI
>garbage

why's that

I don't know much about T3Cs, but I'm fairly sure the loki is considered the weakest because projectiles are shit

>Guns and drones are NOT the same

go on, explain to me how it's different and how your criticisms don't apply. they benefit half as much from damage mods and bonuses, just like guns + missiles
>>
is this a shitfit for level 3/4 missions
[Gila, Gila PvE LV3/4 Chillout]
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>>161083000
Drones aren't even the same league as other weapon systems. This is about how mixing HAM's with projectiles is an awful mix because you get the benefits of neither because of the limited slot lay out. Have you ever run a RLML SFI with fucking autocannons in the last 2 highslots? No because the autocannons don't fucking work at the ranges and situations where the missiles work. People ONLY use it with one unified weapon system where they ONLY use autocannons or missiles never both because it doesn't fucking work. Same goes with the TFI, they don't mix cruise missile launchers with artillery or autocannons because it doesn't fucking work and it never has worked. Because of this dumb set up of under performing mixed systems they're never used over other battleships with unified weapon systems that work better because they either do more damage or they have secondary bonuses that make their weapons plus the extra bonus perform so much better.

The vexor excels at drones primarilty and people use the guns in their brawling set up. The vexor doesn't get guns AND missile bonuses, it doesn't get hybrid weapons AND autocannon bonuses or some retarded shit it gets drones plus the guns. Its not the same at all. Thats like saying any supplementary system of drones in general is a mixed weapon system even though the vexor is great and the fucking SFI is not. The Gila is great, and the TFI is not.

>they benefit half as much
and perform half as well in every circumstance. Caracal gets 5 RLML's but SFI only gets 4, no one runs artillery with their SFI with RLML's because it doesn't work and gimps your fitting at the same time.
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>fit on osmium says [RUS]
>fit description is in english
why
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when will CCP make lighter gun variants less obsolete? literally nobody flies with the smaller versions of the same size class, why don't they make it so the light/gatling guns have much better tracking and the heavy/focused guns have much worse tracking so there's a clear benefit to them?
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>>161083312
>Have you ever run a RLML SFI with fucking autocannons in the last 2 highslots?

the SFI and TFI are not real split weapons. I'm not going to fit different weapon types, because damage mods exist

>the autocannons don't fucking work at the ranges and situations where the missiles work

there is some value to flexibility, you know. if you want to do something other than be an F1 anchor baby with maximum turret alpha and range bonuses like a pleb

this whole thing about SFI and TFI is irrelevant because they aren't real split weapons, and they aren't even bad ships so I don't know what's up your butt

>Thats like saying any supplementary system of drones in general is a mixed weapon system

you entirely failed to explain how drones + guns/missiles is different to missiles + guns. drones work in a different way to whatevr you pair them with, and have different range constraints. shouldn't you be having a fit about how that makes them suboptimal, just like missiles + guns?
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>>161083698
>the SFI and TFI are not real split weapons.
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>>161083720
definitely kill yourself now please if you don't see a difference between 6 highs with 3/3, and 5 highs with 4/4. ccp made them so you can choose to fit missiles or guns, they aren't really meant to use both
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>>161067948
>What are you on about?
The private servers are less dead than the real ones.
And the private servers are dead as shit.
Also all the nerfs to Thievery, etc.
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>>161083698
you would have a valid argument if webs did not exist
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>>161084031
you would maybe have a valid argument if you explained yourself so people know what you're talking about
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>6 days with no response from CCP
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>>161083698
>the SFI and TFI are not real split weapons. I'm not going to fit different weapon types, because damage mods exist
Are you fucking stupid? thats what this ENTIRE situation was about

>there is some value to flexibility, you know. if you want to do something other than be an F1 anchor baby with maximum turret alpha and range bonuses like a pleb
lol what the fuck does this have to do with anything. You're just projecting stupid shit and now you're somehow saying "giving some flexibility" because you're totally gonna run a TFI with 4 guns right? Oh they aren't REAL split weapon systems because you'd use either? man I can't wait to take out my TFI with only 4 guns because thats all it goes I'm not gonna use both because its not a real split weapon system magically or what ever this dumb logic is.

You're fucking retarded.

>you entirely failed to explain how drones + guns/missiles is different to missiles + guns. drones work in a different way to whatevr you pair them with, and have different range constraints. shouldn't you be having a fit about how that makes them suboptimal, just like missiles + guns?
Because Drones aren't guns or missiles, they don't follow the same mechanics of damage delivery like missiles and guns do differently regardless.

I totally wanna see your retarded TFI with 6 RHML and 2 fucking 800mm autocannons because I can totally see this not failing at all.

>they're different because different damage mods exist
holy fuck you're retarded
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>>161084081
basically webs ruined solo pvp
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>>161066454
>will I just get blown up
Yes.
>better ships camping the sites?
No one camps the sites.
They might (won't) be doing the sit themself, but really they'll need to scan you down.
>Is it viable
You'll die a lot, but you'll earn significantly more than you lose.
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>>161083802
>hey guys can I bring my TFI? I'm picking one gun system over the other because I can choose either or its "flexible"
>no theres nothing wrong with it
>it doesn't need extra bonuses like range, tracking, or tank bonuses

Its like you're defending the shit bonus that you're not even taking advantage of because you can't

All split weapon system ships with the TFI, SFI, Loki are shit because they get limited hardpoints, garbage bonuses and nothing else beyond that
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>>161083208

very shitfit.

for level 3's will you spend more time slowboating to the next gate than doing combat because 2slow
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>>161084324
>webs have been out since the game went retail
>webs have ruined solo PVP
Were you here in 2008 when you could stack propulsion mods and webs reduced your velocity by 90% every time?
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>>161084271
>Are you fucking stupid? thats what this ENTIRE situation was about

benefitting less from damage mods is the downside to split weapons, yes. you're making it sound like this is some thing I don't understand, and a reason why they need to be purged. brb flying my vexor

>lol what the fuck does this have to do with anything

it has a lot to do with anything. you place no value on flexibility because you're a fucking shitter who engages in shitter pvp, and you're retarded and gay

>Because Drones aren't guns or missiles

and yet they use damage mods, so a drones + guns ship benefits half as much from damage mods just like your ham loki or whatever. explain to me why it's so cripplingly bad for this ship, but not bad for drones

>I totally wanna see your retarded TFI with 6 RHML and 2 fucking 800mm autocannons because I can totally see this not failing at all

did you read my post? go back and read it again
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>>161084490
I do have a caracal for 3s
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>>161084507
trick question, nobody would be insane enough to play this game for that fucking long
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>>161083802
>definitely kill yourself now please if you don't see a difference between 6 highs with 3/3, and 5 highs with 4/4. ccp made them so you can choose to fit missiles or guns, they aren't really meant to use both
The Tempest with 6 guns out DPS's the TFI with 6 guns, same way with the Tempest fleet issue out performs the typhoon fleet issue because the tempest fleet issue gets 2 damage bonuses to one unified weapon system where the typhoon fleet issue gets 2 separate bonuses that don't complement each other making an absolutely garbage ship platform

>>161084518
>benefitting less from damage mods is the downside to split weapons, yes.
Which is the ENTIRE reason why its garbage.

>it has a lot to do with anything
jesus christ what a nonstatement
>no value on flexibility because you're a fucking shitter who engages in shitter pvp, and you're retarded and gay
There isn't a need for flexibility. a Fleet Doctrine focuses around a specific objective. For a Nightmare its long range high speed low sig application of lasers. For Rattlesnakes its about cruise missiles paired with high damage sentries and heavy drones.

The split weapon bonused ships get the bonuses of only 1 thing at a time because you can't do both and you suffer from reduced slots and no bonus to anything else about the ship. THIS IS WHY THEY DO LESS DAMAGE AND THEY SUCK ALL AROUND MORE.

>and yet they use damage mods, so a drones + guns ship benefits half as much from damage mods
you realize people DO fit BCS and DDA's to their rattlesnakes at the same time right? The snake (and gila by extension) get high potency bonuses to missile damage unlike the TFI and SFI that get meager bonuses that barely help at all. The SFI gets 4 missile launchers with a 5% bonus where the gila gets 4 missile launchers with a 10% damage bonus which works far better and increases damage even further, pair that with 2 drones with a drone damage bonus that gives it effective 10 drones gives it the benefit of BOTH
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Can you still make a decent amount of isk running l4s? I'm pretty retarded and I just want a laid back form of income
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>>161084518
The Gila, Snake, Vexor all get the full ability to use both systems perfectly. The SFI can only pic one then barely half of the other (assuming you'd put autocannons on a RLML SFI)

CCP should get rid of dual bonuses when you can't use both systems 100% like the vexor, gila and snake can. Comparatively, the ONI out performs the SFI because the ONI does way more damage to one system, and the SFI gets piddly shit with reduced slots for them congrats your SFI is out performed by a fucking caracal because the caracal does more damage and has a range bonus at that
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>>161084913
>The Tempest

that's because the tempest for some reason got a large dps buff. read the bonuses

>same way with the Tempest fleet issue

that isn't the same at all. the tempest fleet issue has less dps than a tempest. it has something like 0.5 more effective turrets than the tyfi, but it's slower, fatter and has a gimpy dronebay. they are just different ships

>Which is the ENTIRE reason why its garbage.

vexor

>There isn't a need for flexibility. a Fleet Doctrine

m-muh fleets! muh doctrine! how many times do I have to tell you you're a shitter

I like how you think rattlesnakes are good, and a minute later will be exploding about how inefficient split weapons are because of damage mods

>you realize people DO fit BCS and DDA's to their rattlesnakes at the same time right?

of course. everyone knows these ships are very overpowered, but as I've been saying, do you not see that your reasons for other ships being bad describe these ships as well?
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>plex keeps going down to exactly 1.02 bil
>then starts rising again

I don't think its hitting 900 mill again senpaitachi
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>>161085046
>ONI

oni is an entirely different ship. it's just babby kite shit, it has no control, it cannot brawl

>out performed by a fucking caracal

yeah when you fit it to be a caracal. it's not a caracal
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>>161085310
>that's because the tempest for some reason got a large dps buff. read the bonuses
because it got the least damage before it

even back then the tempest did more damage than an autocannon TFI. 5% to damage and 5% to RoF out does the TFI's single 7.5% to rate of fire.

The tempest fleet issue didn't get the same buff but STILL out performs it

>but the tempest fleet issue is slower...
irrelevant, this is about the dual bonuses it can't effectively take advantage of at the same time.

>they're over powered
you can't keep on one path can you?

The SFI?
>6 slots, 4 guns or 4 launchers
>dual bonus
>if you fit 4 guns, you can only get 2 of the launchers

meanwhile on the gila, you get 4 launchers plus 10 effective drones without interfering with one another. This is why the Vexor and snake and gila don't have the issue of the SFI

You can't take full advantage of both bonuses in an SFI, TFI or Loki this is the issue, they're shit because they do crap damage and because of their mixed systems over lapping they perform like shit in any situation where they COULD be good with one weapon system.

>>161085450
>yeah when you fit it to be a caracal. it's not a caracal

When I fit a caracal, like a caracal, its not a caracal? This is some next tier level shit posting
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>>161085780
>When I fit a caracal, like a caracal, its not a caracal?

No, when you fit an SFI like a Caracal you autistic retard.
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>>161085923
How does one fit an SFI like a Caracal? Seems like you missed the point of the post

The Caracal gets 5 launchers, the damage bonus on top of that AND a range bonus. So regardless of the situation you're attempting to fuck with and project, the caracal out paces the SFI in this regard. You are fucking retarded
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>>161085780
it doesn't outperform it retard

>irrelevant

it's not irrelevant. ships are balanced around more than just bonuses. active tanking ships often have stronger attributes so you can not active tank them and be ok - brutix sleipnir and deimos

so you just explained why the gila is a strong ship - it has a lot of effective weapons. yes it has a resist bonus too, but let's stick to the weapons. this is how you make good split weapons ships - you give them a higher number of effective weapons than single weapon system ships. but they make up for it by benefitting half as much from damage modules. the vexor is an example of a ship that's maybe slightly too powerful, and the gurista ships are obviously just way too powerful. you can do the exact same kind of thing with missiles + guns. scythe fleet and typhoon fleet are not the same thing because you basicaly fit a full rack of 1 type of weapon. they have slightly oversized bonuses to make up for only using 1 bonus at a time
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>>161086408
>it doesn't outperform it retard
5 launchers plus 5% damage bonus > 4 launchers plus 5% damage bonus faggot
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ITT: nerds
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>>161086408
>muh character limit

it's amusing to me that you'd bring up a tempest or tempest fleet issue as an example of a better ship design, when they both only have damage bonuses. you can make a ship with 1 bonus as good as a ship with 2 bonuses, because bonuses are different and other stats are different. a scythe fleet issue for example has a 10% rate of fire bonus. that's +100% dps. that's a stronger bonus than 2 standard rate of fire bonuses. you are very dumb

>When I fit a caracal, like a caracal, its not a caracal? This is some next tier level shit posting

kill yourself holy shit. one ship is a kitey range turd, the other is a sanic control brawler
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>>161071076
Go wherever your little heart desires.
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>>161086623
>you can make a ship with 1 bonus as good as a ship with 2 bonuse
except its not

a Tempest Fleet Issue vs a Typhoon Fleet Issue, the Tempest has its damage bonus plus its other bonus helping it, where the Typhoon only gets 1 bonus, nothing else.

Same with every other ship in the game. They reap the benefits of both bonuses, but the Split Weapon System ships like the loki, typhoon fleet issue, and SFI just fucking can't

>SFI
>sanic control brawler
not with that garbage tank, garbage DPS and shit. Its an under inflated tire compared to a cynabal
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>>161086592
that was about tempests and typhoons, not caracals dumbass. fleet tempest is 10 effective turrets with 75 drone bandwidth 100 dronebay, fleet typhoon is 9.6 effective turrets with 125 bandwidth 200 dronebay and they both have different hp sig and speed and sensors

>>161086812
>except it's not

what do you mean except it's not. you're replying to a part of a post that debunks what you're saying. and I just explained yet again how the typhoon fleet issue has other strengths than effective number of turrets

>They reap the benefits of both bonuses

they have smaller bonuses or fewer weapon systems. I can only repeat myself so many times

>under inflated tire compared to a cynabal

actually it's very similar to a cynabal except the warp speed meme which admittedly is huge
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>turbo nerds kill the thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBmBAUvEEHs
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this makes me want to fly a scythe fleet issue desu, fun ship
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RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>161088725
Whats your problem?
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>>161088725
plus shape has better results than the default probe arrangement
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>>161089150
where do you put the 8th probe
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>>161088725
kill yourself noob
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>>161089220
I put two in the middle one slightly above and one below the cosmic sig dot.
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>>161089220
Dude, use the default pinpoint formation and drop it down to .25AU when its 40%+ quit being retarded
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>>161089412
I'm not that guy, friend
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>>161084347

> No one camps the sites.

No, because they bookmark them ahead of time and just watch Dscan.

> but really they'll need to scan you down

t. highsec faggot
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>>161089532
>watch dscan
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>download game cause it looks chill as fuck
>join brave newbies to get some help and have fun
>everyone spams a bunch of info at me and generally isn't helpful

I just want to cruise the galaxy with bros and have some fun. how do into this if everyone is an asshole?
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You understand probes are a game of ECM they use the same code?
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Do the blood raider cerebral accelerators even work? I just implanted them and they didnt affect my skill training timer at all...

I set a timer and watched the 2 count down so its not like its ticking down faster either, should i submit a ticket?
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>>161090174
>people helping makes them an asshole

nice b8
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>>161090249
lol i think they thought they were being helpful by blowing up my chat with a bunch of info I didn't understand.

one guy litterally just kept telling me not to play cause the game is too complicated
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>>161090235
lol scammed
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>>161090546
>one guy litterally just kept telling me not to play cause the game is too complicated

for some reason, autists in this game really hate the game surviving. I think they want the game to close down so they can be free of it
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>>161090636
Unless im mistaken, i thought the point of alliences like that were for newbies to follow some better players around to learn some shit. Not just repeat stuff I could easily google.

Anyway, whats a better way for me to meet up with people and start having fun?
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>>161090772
Apply for a corp, don't tell them you're new.
Fake it till you make it
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>>161088987
>>161089150
>>161089261
Its cool lads tweaking the rigs to gravity caps seems to have worked.
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>t2 fit raven for l4 missions
>get ganked
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>it's an lowsec incursion episode
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>>161092206
>doing missions in unsafe space
>without backup
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>>161092326
>highsec
>unsafe
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>>161092206
>t2 fits for lvl 4s
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>>161077410
>be (You)

>browsing /leddit/

>r/eve or some shit

>four chang has an eve board!?

>shiggity shiggity shiggity

>i had better

>post

>like

>this
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>pve
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KEV
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>>161077410
Hope you told him to ping that DScan next time.
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>>161092434

> le 4chan is le secret website and I can't just read posts without being a fucking sperg

fuck off, retard
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>>161092797
retard
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Whats the allure in playing a dying 20 year old MMORPG?

The game is controlled by fucking casino tycoons and entities that don't even own any sov, and are thus untouchable.

Casinos are a huge reward, with practically no risk, as your assets are untouchable.
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>casinos are untouchable
>trillions of isk deleted
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>>161093134
eve has been dying since it came out
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>people who don't undock are untouchable
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>>161093435
Its true though.
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>people who don't play the game are untouchable
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>>161093501
no they arent, me and my friend just trained t2 missiles and are about to kill jita station
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How do I avoid being ganked by catalyst swarms?
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WH/Null exploration is burning me out, FW is filled with farmers. What can a new player even do? Ninja gas?
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reply limit
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>>161093704
Stay docked.
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>>161090142
>recon lands on grid
>takes him 3 years to exit warp
>warp out
>tries to chase
>takes him 18 seconds to align
>dangerous ships
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Someone please make a new thread, think we're at the limit
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CALVIN
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What would happen if CCP quietly put in a patch that caused empire stations to be able to take damage? How long would it take until it was discovered? After being discovered, how long until jita would get nuked?
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>page 10
i don't have any meme pics somebody make new thread
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>>161094764
Would get discovered the day of.

Jita would be gone within 10 minutes
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>>161094813
even with no patch notes?

even if the update was completely hidden IE it wouldn't trigger a loading bar in the launcher?
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>>161094312

>>161094903
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>>161094876
If it shows up by rick clicking the station it would be found within seconds
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>>161094764
Empire space would be purged.
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>>161093769
bump limit
pretty sure the reply limit is 1000
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>>161073125
>no cargo scanner
its like you want to find nothing but carbon
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