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Queen edition

Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone.
The Steam version launched on October 28th.

Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed) (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh

Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor for the lazy or mentally handicapped. Open wide and enjoy responsibly:

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Discarded: >>160926862

(Cross-thread)
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Can someone post otohime's standard and evolved art?
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GOLLY
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>>160952926

otohime has a HUGE tail
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>>160952767
Please stop making me horny with every thread
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Need a private win m80s

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>>160952767
>I guard otohime!
>she gets killed next turn
>you'll never get near the princess!
>you actually don't get near her and she keeps bouncing
Otohima has shitty guards
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>>160953074
yeah and I have a huge dick
perfect match.
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>>160953001
God, you have the self awareness of a baby. Just because you're ok with something doesn't mean the entire world is. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain on showing some good nature and understanding. Do you think there are massive money losses in giving out one small pack?
Stop whining about "entitlement" and think rationally.
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>>160953074
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have you done your part?
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>he plays it dubbed
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Sword Take Two Draft

Alwida & Latham VS. Gabriel & Otohime

Which take!?
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Need a concede please

74101
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>>160953208
>each guard now gets ward
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>>160953261
>>160953074
Thank you!
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I want to ____ an elf.
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>>160953074
Jacking me off with her tail while she steps on my face barefoot.
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>>160953363
>each guard is now a 1/1 with ward

Buff, nerf or change?
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>>160953339

Right, duh. You even get that combo paired for you.

>using Gabriel's fanfare on a bodyguard
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I think playing DickShift might be might be the most fun I've had in any game in months
It's definitely the best T/CCG deck I've ever played

I love this game
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>>160953339
Gabriel and otohime
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>>160953338
The soundpack i got was shitty so i got l back to the dubs. Also hated the little girl voice eris has
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>>160953362

Thanks Luna!
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>>160953363
I can already imagine how furious shadow players would be.
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>>160953180
Thanks Gandalf.
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>>160953459
Sauce right fucking now.
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G-guys, Lucfer or Alexander?
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>>160953447
>>160953363
>Hey look at queen vampire
>Look at her and laugh
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>>160953691
Lucifer
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>>160953661
I found it once, it's some cocktease manga about a psycho and her infatuated MC
Not worth the trouble
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>>160953691
Alexander is a meme
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>>160953691
Lucifer
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>>160953661
It's from Ana Satsujin. It's a pretty bad manga.
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>Havenfag disconnects in Take Two when I stomp him

Now I get why nobody fucking likes them. Take your loss like a man and stop being a little bitch.
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>>160953941
>psycho

they're called yanderes, baka gaijin
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>>160954078
No no, she wasn't psycho about the MC
She was just psycho
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>>160953941
>>160954059
Damn, thought it was going to be good fap material.
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>>160954126
oh
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So this is what a 5 win forestcraft deck looks like.
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>>160954064
>fighting 2nd eris
Your own fault.
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This game's arena is a joke. All about getting Olivia and going second.
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>>160954352
It's okay anon I forgive you
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Why the fuck have the past five take twos I've gotten to 4 wins ALL put me up against a shadowverse rex for my 5th game?
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>>160954554
Don't forgive mirai nikki-plebs
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>>160954371
Wew lad, that deck's pretty disgusting for t2.
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>>160954554
;_;
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need concede, someone help me out
93640
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I'm angry.
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>>160954126
I want the source even more now tbqh
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>>160954371
Congrats! Aside from princes/tia combo, deck doesn't seem that crazy. You did well getting it to 5-0
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>>160954852
About what?
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>>160954852
about elves?
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>tfw you play against an Elana's deck that never draws Elana.

It's so weird to not see them drop a turn 3 Elana's like clockwork.
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>>160953274
Kinda gave it the unknown game category.
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My daughterwife Luna is so cute and sexy
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It begins.
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Reminder to bully the dingdong
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which one boys
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>4-0 with forestcraft in Arena
>doing combos, fun stuff
>punish opponents for overextending face damage
>last match against shadowcraft
>he has no evolutions and 0 cards
>opponent process to topdeck two mordecais in a row
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How do I banner sword? Do I just face everyday with banner out? I'd play something else but dailies need me to win with sword or rune, and I don't have rune win condition cards.
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>>160955441
right for value, left for memes
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>>160955441
I'd go right personally.
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>>160955441
What the hell, memes paired up. I say left tho
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when are they going to start to ban the niggers that do this?
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>>160955507
last time i ran tyrant/haunt in T2 i went 1-4, right it is
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>>160955527
shit i meant right>>160955489
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>>160955441
Both nice meme combos, but the right side has cards that are both usable on their own.
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Losing and breaking my win streak due to misclicking on fucking end turn. I hate this. I have never misclicked or botched a game this badly before.
Fucking smug Swordcraft player with almost twice my rank too. I was so damn close. I had that game in the bag.
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>>160952767
Why is this lewd image of my wife in the OP? Delete it right now.
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>>160955530
what the fuck WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY
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>>160955820
>not having end turn confirmation on
How does it feel to be a retard?
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>>160955868
Your wife has 4 boyfriends.
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Should I run Altered fate in regular tempo forest?
I seem to have issues with draw and glimmering wings aren't cutting it.
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Where are my fucking packs?
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>>160955929
I never imagined I would fail so hard. But clearly I am incompetent.
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97303
need a private win
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Post a control Shadow list that doesn't make me want to die
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>>160955962
Girls can't be boyfriends, silly.
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Help me out guys
28650
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>>160956084
Senpai the only difference between Aggro and Control Shadow is Mordecai.
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>>160956084
>control shadow

I'm sorry
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>>160956109
She's a lesbo then
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>>160955530

What, play haven? Next expansion
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Some nice buddy throw me a concede?

17986
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When are they going to add a "Hurry the fuck up" taunt?
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>>160956053
I know how you feel. Just turn on the confirm end of turn and confirm evolve, you'll fuck up less.
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>>160956223
thanks
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>>160955995
>altered fate
>draw
You lose a card.
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>>160956329
Thanks joker fella
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>>160956272
She's just friends with her bodyguards, anon. I've already impregnated her.
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>lost because I left one 1/x mob alive against dshift shitter
Never again. I tell it to myself everytime this happens
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>>160956365
I'd prefer a "I fucked up" emote
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>>160956505
golly
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>>160952767
>tits
RUINED
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>>160956084
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>starting hand had 3 6pp drops
>send'em back
>get this instead
Right.
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>>160956687
Just surrender.
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>>160956429
you're welcome Vania :)
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Is it frowned upon or weird to use Dark Dragoon Forte in a deck when you're using Dark Dragoon Forte as your hero?
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>>160956847
It'd be weird not to use Forte in your deck when she's your hero.

Actually it'd be weird not to use Forte in your deck if you have access to her at all.
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>>160956847
Yes
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Is it just me or is playing against Runecraft completely unfun? Other classes are harder sure, but Runecraft's mechanics are boring and tedious to play against. I feel like conceding everytime I start a match against one.
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>>160956751
If I were to concede after every shitty hand I got I wouldn't be playing a card game.
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>>160957034
Then get better hands, faggot.
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>>160957024

what are you playing as?

it's fun to rip through isabelle's face when playing as aggro bats because "MUH WARDS WILL KEEP ME SAFE" is hilarious to me
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>get home from work
>no forest nerf
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>>160956847
If you have her in the deck and aren't using her hero/avatar you're scum of the earth
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>>160957024
I kind of like playing against Runecraft, you don't have to worry about followers much so it's all damage optimization and figuring out how to best play around their removal.

I do think Spell Rune is terribly designed and needs adjustments though with all their slanted match ups.
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I'm stuck in an arena game, my opponent "left" and I got the 90 second waiting timer, after it finished I got stuck with a loading icon in the bottom right and now its still there but it says "waiting for a response" from the other player, how do I get out of this?
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>>160956847
Anon if you're using the forte leader and have no fortes in your deck you need to reevaluate your life.
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>>160957024
Posts like this only make me love Runecraft more
Nobody is allowed to have fun but me
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>>160956847
only good leaders are selwyn, erasmus, mordecai, urias

everything else is okay

anything waifu is weebshit
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Opinions on Pixie Paradise.
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>>160957306
>No Garuda
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>>160957286
You are a terrible person
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So what happened after the maintenance
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>>160957259
Happened to me once. I force quit after like 5 minutes of nothing happening to me and when I got back into the game it said the match didn't count. It wasn't a loss but I didn't get the win I earned either. Just had to play again. Pretty sure it's what those disconnecting fags are hoping to accomplish when they DC on you. They should all be banned and be subjected scaphism.
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need a concede pls 93739
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Seeing it as a C rank and now in A rank, it feels so different.
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>>160957306
>muh manly men

Why don't you marry them if you love them so much?
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I need someone to concede to me. Please, help a fellow anon out!

74925
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Rate my Deck

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.6.63dOW.63dOW.63dOW.63dOg.63dOg.63dOg.67WPs.67WPs.67WPs.5_pzw.5_pzw.5_pzw.5_p-4.5_p-4.5_p-4.63e74.63e74.63e74.67Uie.67Uie.67WfK.63dO-.63dO-.63fqc.63fqc.63ilo.63ilo.63ilo.67RXC.67RXC.63gZA.63gZA.63gZA.67Yro.67Yro.67Yro.61O4K.61LeE.61LeE.61Pni
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>tfw you steamroll someone in their master promos
get fukt nerd
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Holy shit, I think I might be too retarded to play forest.
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WHERE ARE THE PACKS
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>>160957332
useless trash
unless you're in TT
Then it's acceptable trash
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>>160956847
>tfw you know they are going triple Fortes but you got no ward on hand
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>>160957371
Unashamedly
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>>160957413
For fuck sake I got a loss when I was way ahead and I was 3-0 in arena, this sucks. I was miserable enough and I thought something was going well for me
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>>160957429
that's gay dude
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>get 2 missions that reward packs
I guess that's sort of like compensation
I also now have 3 animated Alucard
control blood not being a joke when?
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>>160957430
Someone, please!
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>Be Dragoncraft
>mfw some Swordcraft player drops Otohime near me.
>mfw they drop 2 otohimes in a row near me.

Sorry moonfriend, that lame shit doesn't work on me.
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>perfect curve sword into perfect curve elana into perfect curve midrange forest
>I had dead draws for the first three turns on all games
Interesting rng I've got today.
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When I first started I thought rune and dshift were some really cool shit and "wow that's an interesting deck idea and alternative win condition"

But now thinking on it, especially dshift? Fuck that deck so hard, the fact that it exists and is popular makes so many possible decks worthless, especially some control decks that can't just braindead aggro to kill before dshift hits.
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I like dragons.
Wat're the best dragons?
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>>160957704

>follower with ambush
>when vengance is active, face takes 2 reduced damage

viable? or broken?
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>>160955995
Yes if you pack your hand full of fairies to sac
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I need to complete a private match quest. Can an anon please, concede to me?

65114
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>>160957447
how would you know they are in promos?
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>>160958074
You check their points
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Prob asking a lot here, but is there a website that has translations of what the japanese cards say? Would like to compare with some of the silly phrases we got in english.
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>>160957524
In TT it's a source of fairies for your combo stuff, only problem is the fact that it takes up a slot.
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>>160958074
he was AA3 with 50000 points
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Just blew 1000 gold on DE packs because I literally forgot that a new expansion was around the corner. How have we not gotten even a hint at the theme of the new set? It's supposedly going to be released next month correct?
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You can play me or just concede. I'd like the finish the mission though.

37473
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>>160957306
>senile summoner erasmus
>grand archer "nothing personal kid" selwyn
>gay for balthazar urias

okay
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>>160958301
We'll get all the cards shown a week before release and that's it.
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>>160957332
Never EVER play 2 at the same time.
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>opponent has nearly 1.5x my points
Are there not many players around 4k or something? Or are they trying to end my winstreak?

I only started playing yesterday, if you're wondering.
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>tfw you finish your dallies too fast and you still wanna play
Goddammit I wanna keep playing with vampy but I don't wanna gain too much rank to soon.
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>>160957813
The forest and haven dragons
They might actually see some play someday
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>>160958430
>sandbagging
kys
Seriously though? Just play casual, it's not like you care about good matches anyway.
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>Just got memed on by Discard Dragon in Unranked
Now this is the sort of thing I want to see in Unranked, not full constructed Elana
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Seriously. Fuck Elena.
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Your evil deeds end now
I SEE YOUR WEAKNESS
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>>160957501
right here buddy
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>>160958472
Well in rank B I actually see diverse decks instead of constant back to back Haven and Forest. Is it wrong that I don't wanna leave Rank B?
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>>160958430
Nice job murdering that hare of illusions and godsteel wings user. I hope you feel ashamed.
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>>160958198
>>160958276
you wouldn't be so autistic as to check that after every match would you?
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>>160957813
Swordshitters hate it!

This class has one simple card to hold scrubs accountable!

Local underrated class reveals shocking truth about netdecks and the pussies who play them
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>>160958667
Relax. It was take 2.
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>play 3 games of take two
>go first every time

Cool.
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>>160958725
you can check it on the screen where you concede
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>>160958728
>tfw control sword for days
good luck getting past my 18 wards
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>>160958725
You literally see their rank as you load in.
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>>160958645
>diverse shitty decks piloted by shitters

what's the point?
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>>160958619

They were kinder to me :^)
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>>160956625
This looks very similar to my deck. I'd throw a call of the void in there too though.
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>>160958794
tfw Deathly Tyrant + Ethereal Form
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>>160957813
Baddest 2/2 in town
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Japs pls
If you give me turn 11, you're dying to snowmen
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>>160958852
>>160958619
Got you both beat.
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>>160958406
Seriously? I thought there be more of a build-up. That's a bit disappointing, but as long as the cards are good, everything else is secondary.
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>>160958849
It's more fun when everyone is using shitty meme decks and the games are less predictable. If you like constantly fighting tempo elf and storm haven that's fine by me but I'm having fun in low ranks where we all have fun.
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>>160956625
>>160958858
what rank
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>>160958667

Hare of illusions can be memed for PtP.
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>>160959023
I think the term is casual trash
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>have three potential plays to make as I stare at two near full fields
>all of them result in exactly 13 damage when I need 14 for lethal
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So how do you cheat, just got robbed of a 5-0 arena run because of opponent forcing the game stuck until I left
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>Too intelligent to play non-forest decks

once i tried playing sword and got bored to death because it has NO decision making, you just spit all your crap on the board and hope it sticks

how do people have fun playing sword?
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>>160959117
>taking video games seriously
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>>160959260
>be 4-0
>might actually get 5-0 for once
>see enemies flair
>lose
Neat
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Got an Aurelia and an Otohime, should I make another Otohime to play Sword?
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>>160959386
>discarding cards
>decision making
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Could someone please post Vanguard's art/evolved art? Jap voice's seriously cool, but my internet's running like shit and I can't download the artpack.
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>>160959386

you think that's too easy? try storm haven
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Looking back, I regret blowing all my free Arena tickets back when I didn't know shit about anything.
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>>160959386
>forest
>decision making
Ahahaha, I have a full forest deck and I'm not playing that shit because of how disgustingly easy mode it is, the only way you'll get me to use the thing is if dailies force me.
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>>160959540
well, with haven you have to play arround your countdown amulets to win

thats alot more desicion making than any sword deck
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Quick question for shadow meme deck users.

If I drop a Mordecai, he rezes, and then I evo Ceridwen, could I end up with a dupe mordecai if he was the highest cost?
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>>160959509
That's not only that. You discard the whole hand 3, three times! And play a I'm Devil nerd trump.
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>>160959117
>wahh why isn't everyone spending a bunch of money on a tier 1 deck that everyone in my elite rank is netdecking
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>>160959260
Forcing the game stuck? How?
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>>160959023
Playing right now at A2 I got:
S Haven
DS Rune
E Haven
Golly Rune
Mid Sword
ER Rune
PtP Forest
A Blood

Rune and Haven are common, sure, but it's no different from fighting Banner Sword and Elana Haven over and over again.
Also, Forest ins't nearly as common as people make it out to be. Maybe at AA that changes.
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>>160959023
Judging from the cards on the field you probably run aggro blood and brainlessly roll over those 'diverse' decks the scrubs at b2 run. I doubt they're having fun, but whatever floats your boat sandbagger.
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>0-2 with dragoncraft
>one of the losses was to runecraft
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YOU BETTER FUCKING APOLOGIZE FOR THIS MAINTENANCE CYGAMES OR I'M PLAYING HEARTHSTONE
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>>160959386
>Too intelligent
I am sorry anon. You will never enjoy life in this world
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>going 1st in Take Two when you're not playing an aggressive Sword deck

Might as well just fucking auto-concede. Drawing two cards on top of an extra evolve is horseshit.
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>>160959682
Sure it is.
>>160959682
Should work.
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>>160959736
Well I was doing my dallies so of course I play whatever deck the missions what me to do. Aggro blood is barely even common on ladder at least from what I've seen.
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>>160959736

He just said it was arena
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This bitch doesn't have 30 shadows so why did purgatory activate?
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>>160959815
Against rune, just keep skipping turns and farming orbs until this >>160958728 shows up.
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>>160959686
Yes.
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>>160959725
If you come to A1 you might play against my countdown deck. No Seraph, no Elana, Skullfane sighting possible.
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>>160959686
yes
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>play against a Shadow player in T2 who curves Mordecai into Andras and smartly plays so that he doesn't die to Temptress on turn 9
>drop him to 1 hp while playing defensively anyway but basically give up all hope since I thought I used up all my Storm and Burn cards already
>topdeck Blood Wolf with no other cards in my hand and 3 HP left
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>>160959984
Click on their deck.
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>tfw forever 4-1
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>>160956564
Are you gay? She's been upgraded.
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>>160959682
There is no playing around
You drop your amulets when they come into your hand
Then you reduce countdown on them if you have that.
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>>160960124
are you retarded forest doesn't have shadows
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What rank is the lowest you can sandbag to?
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>>160959671
Post deck, I'm a shitter who has no idea what he's doing with forest, can't even get out of C0.
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>>160960210
3/10 bait
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>>160959710
If you think you need a tier 1 deck to make it into AA you are the casual scrub I was talking about
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>>160959686
Yes, he's registered as dead
>>160959529
Here you go
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Only shadowcraft should be able to gain shadows.
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>>160959109
And embarrass elves
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>Strength and beauty together!

I don't get why the English dub gets a lot of hate. Yes, sometime it sounds cheesy but that is charming in its own way.
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>>160960358
Thanks a lot! That's fucking rad.
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>>160960112
>mfw similar situation where I topdecked Dark General
>still leaves opponent at 1 hp
>mfw my fucking Lilith ends up saving the day after throwing herself at the mordecai.

I fucking love Bloodcraft
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>>160960401
The dub is great
Some lines suck but they are on shitty guys anyways so nobody cares
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>PTP now consumes 4 shadow with every proc (still need to be 30 to trigger)

There, I fixed the card. No way such a powerful effect doesn't need to deplete your Shadow when a class can run dry of it.
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>>160960384
>not allowing satanistic rituals
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>>160959716
anytime the client fucks up, it's the opponent's fault
babby logic
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Man elf is crazy. I have a shit deck full of cycling and almost none of the legendaries. Yet, with 3 Roach, I can just OTK anyone no problemo by bouncing like a retard. This shti is dope. I made it for questing but hot damn its great.
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>>160960401
otohime's body guards annoy me in japanese
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>>160960401
>weebs are autistic

surprise
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>>160960401
>Implying the jap dub ins't cheesy as fuck as well
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>>160960487
The original voices are also great and none of the lines suck
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>>160960494
Great job you just made a card that is barely used to win a game except in some matchups even worse. Luckily you idiots don't balance this game.
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Instant right?
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>>160960247
I wouldn't recommend copying this if you want the regular forest experience because this is "aggro" forest, yeah, putting 3 Goblins into a regular tempo shell makes it a aggro deck, just remember to not play like a idiot. It's a list from game-AI.
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>>160960552
yeah but I don't speak moon
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>>160960290
I never said what you think I said.But yes you don't need a tier 1 deck to make it into Rank AA but you do need a tier 1 to not get assfucked in AA.
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8k - 10k cost deck versus 30k -35k cost deck

I laugh every time they fall for the meme
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>>160960401

Asuka > Random english VA

At least for me.

>>160960556

>barely used

Explain the tourney and how it went on a rampage there
>>
>dragon vs dragon
>opponent plays roost
Madman
>>
Is it worth buying Standard Packs? Seems like we get a fair amount just from quests/score rewards and (usually) Take Two is better value anyways.
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>>160960401
BROTHERS IN ARMS
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>get a board
>themis
>get another board
>themis
Nice.
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is there any class that can't play ptp?
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>>160960604
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>>160960627
>mfw bloody mary shennanigans

Bloodcraft is probably the most fun in terms of memedecking
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>>160960556
>btw I use PtP
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>>160952767
I played against some heavenshitter and he played some legendary that replaces his deck with something else and suddenly he gives me a 19 damage burst into my leaders face and right afterwards a 7 damage burst.

What the fucking hell was that? How do I counter that?
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>>160960574
Dragonrider straight up clogs your hand against haven and you have to wait for them to have no amulets in play to play it, it's horrible.
Easy right, dragonewt's effect is very strong if you can proc it
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>>160960917
Dragon
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>>160960556
Cry more, tournament shitter. How are you going to spend your check, coward?
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>>160960878
>plays sword
>complains
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>>160960940
You should try ambush+ward sword
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>>160960604
>I'm an EoP
>that means the original voices are bad
I see I see
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Find the lethal
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How do we "fix" stormhaven and eld?
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>>160960401
>Turn 1 Quickblader
>Turn 4 Floral Fencer
>Haven't played against a sword that didn't draw that in over 30 hours
Is that cheating? Are there aimbots (choose what card to draw) for this game?
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>>160960948
In the same turn? First kill yourself for losing to a Phoenix Roost deck, then when you come back as a skeleton, kill him faster.
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No idea why I logged and tried to do some ranked after the maintenance.
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>>160961035
who are you quoting
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>I'm so bad at this game that I need to play ptp
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Y-you like the cold?
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>>160961046
roach into roach into roach. Wow that was hard.
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>>160960992
>a card that wipes the enemy board while allied followers are safe under a countdown is good design
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>>160961143
Yes in the same turn, I'm new to this game and it didn't even list the source of that damage in the match history.

So please explain.
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Almost got toasted if he drop another Garuda on me.
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>>160960592
>just remember to not play like a idiot
If I knew how to do that I wouldn't be asking for a deck
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>>160961046
There's at least 3 solutions to this.
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>>160960992
this is why midrange is dead
Because faggots like you think this shit is fine.
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>>160961372
b-but two of the top decks are midrange decks, senpai!
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9/11 is for plebs
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>>160961098
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>>160961460
I give that a 5/7
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>>160961017
I prefer ambush+ward Haven with a well of destiny.

Holy Mage just sitting there getting disgustingly swole while the opponent watches helplessley as you spew amulets onto the field is hilarious.
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>>160961035
I don't remember saying either of those things
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>>160960878
>all the way to turn 6
Not our fault you've missed you chance to win.
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>>160961046
i dont play forest yet
can someone give me a solution
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I HATE pushing Haven shitters down to sub 3 health, only for them to drop Lucifer. And leaving me unable to outpace him.
I have lost so many games because of Lucifer.
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Beastcall Aria was a fucking mistake.
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>>160961510
He still lose because only 11 damage on board.
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Exact lethal is a good feel.
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>>160960213
X0 where X is your current letter rank.
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>>160961649
I once believed. . .
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>>160960604
An anime degree of Japanese language is enough for grasping most of the voice lines.
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>>160961694
you only have 8 there dumbass
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>>160961803
evo + sage
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>>160961803
Did you miss the evolve point and call of the wild?
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>>160961046
>that fairy that gets you 2 cards > roach > nature > roach > nature > roach
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>>160961803
Evo+either sage or alwida is game.
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>>160961675
Most of DE Haven cards are.
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>>160961689
yes I can count
>>160961571
>160961571
fairy whisperer + bounce + fairy whisperer + fairy + roach + bounce roach + roach, it will kill him with PTP
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>>160961935
Does bouncing give shadows or something?
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what is happening? i never have a winning streak like this
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I can't wait for Dragon to get overbuffed in the next expansion and become FotM
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>>160961046
It's not even a hard one, I don't play Forest and it took me 5 seconds.
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>>160961859
isnt that 29 shadows?
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>>160961909
Sage is the only option. Alwida is the nigger option.
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>>160961439
Yeah, sword and elana haven.
And beyond that there are no midrange in any of the tiers.
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>>160962038
>Storm Haven
>Pegasus on the field

I don't think you know what storm haven is.
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I just want to open packs. I'm tried of the grind.
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>>160962079
nature draws you cards which you burn
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>>160962030

the bounce makes you draw a card as well, if your hand is maxed the drawn card becomes a shadow
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>>160962197
oooh
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>>160962038
>C0
Enjoy it now
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Thanks tits
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>>160961694

how in the FUCK do you have so much shit in your hand? what do you use to draw?
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>>160962276
moooooooooom
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>>160962276
>>160961694
>"Control Sword"
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>>160961935
That's 11 mana
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>>160962081
I saged.
>>160960020
Did I just play vs you, anon? Pic related. If so I respect the Skullfane.
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>>160962347
Avant+Leader is a lot of cards.
>>160962368
This one is mid:
>>160961694
This one is control:
>>160962276

Control doesn't run sages, 1 drops and 3 PP commanders that are not White Pally.
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Can I get a concede please?
54330
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>>160962347
I had the shittiest early game and thus had a lot of shit sitting on my hand.
>>160962368
It was midrange though.
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>>160962416
Exactly.
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>>160962107
its a placeholder 2 amulets that cost 1 and i don't vials
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>>160962276
https://u.nya.is/qroixa.mp3
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>>160962508
>>160962546
>Midrange sword
>Control sword
>Both play exactly the same
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34479
Please condescending
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>powering through the opponent's Olivia in Take Two and winning anyway
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>>160953969
My brother of African descent
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>>160962535
Thank you fellow shadowbro!
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>Want to play MId-range dragon because i love the shit out of making value trades
>Midrange is not only hot garbage in this game but also Dragon is almost worthless outside of face with Forte.
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>My hand
I almost feel bad for this maid.
>>
>I had more dead first hands today than I had on the entire two weeks I've been playing
I want to punch something
As I typed this, I got another shit hand, while starting first.
>>
Why are people mad about a 40% win deck again?
>>
>>160962652
Not really, control is mostly dicking around with unicas, veteran lancers, maid leaders, any random sub 4 PP shit they opened with until like turn 5 when they can start doing things or they got lucky and drew into a Floral Fencer, their gameplan is also mostly focused on trading forever and extending the game, mid will just punch you in the dick from the word go, aim to build a field and then buff it with sage for lethal.
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>>160962868
because the people who play it take 5 minutes a turn to play 1 card
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>>160962728
Much appreciated
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>>160962759
np
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>Lose to fucking Satan Dragon
This nigger had 10 mana on turn 5 and killed me from full health with Astaroth's Reckoning.

>>160962868
People always hate combo decks.
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>>160962868
Because it's slow as shit.

We need better stated time limits.
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>>160962974
Satan Dragon sounds like fun but I have no vials to make Satan in the first place.
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Would you believe me if I said I drew Olivia only ONCE?
It was on the 5th match and won me it too.
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Can vampires feel love or will they always see humans only as a food source?
>>
Do I have to remind you faggots avatarfagging is a bannable offense?
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>>160963095
Yeah, and what are you going to do about it?
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>>160963071
In the Shadowverse-verse, vampires can do whatever the fuck they want
As evidenced by your image
>>
So who won that Japanese tournament that was going yesterday? What were the decks that they were mostly using?
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>>160963172
They still can't be in sunlight very long, the flavor text is literally her saying the party's over because it's dawn. Running water clearly isn't a problem for them though.
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>>160963260
every person had sword and haven
the last spot was forest or rune.
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>>160959686
Yes. Or just play Urd and do the same thing while saving yourself an evo and being able to combo her into other last words early instead of being a dead card.
>>
>Changed my name to random hiragana and my flag to Japanese.
>All of a sudden Japanese players are not disconnecting every other game they lose.

Do they really hate us Gaijins?
>>
Makes me sad that Dragoncraft sucks. They're fun to play in T2.
>>
>just fought a control dragon
>he couldn't win with 6 evos
I kinda feel bad for every non-face dragonbro that I meet, there's not a single deck that's actually good aside from Forte.
>>
>someone gets a perfect atomy turn 4 curve
>dance of death it on turn 5
>has ceridwen turn 5
Well fuck you too
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Private please. 65947
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>tfw he plays seraph before you in mirror match but it's ok because you had 3 balance calls
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>>160963384
which random characters man
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>>160962772
Just wait next expansion all the low tier decks will be good this game is fresh and need more cards.
At least we have a lot of playable decks unlike others Card Games.
Dragon in Arena is superb if you want play something like mid range give it a try
>>
After 67 games I got my first Checking Match Results screen.
I've gotten plenty of opponents who have simply disconnected before. But I have never gotten a Checking Match Results screen before.
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IM LATE ON MEMES
>>
I regret ranking out of D, 90% of my opponents are Elana/Seraph/Storm haven now. I want to puke.
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>>160963505
でぶまらすき
>>
>>160963543

Where can I subscribe to your blog senpai?
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>>160963172
In Twilight some vampires can walk under sunlight
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>>160963580
Sounds like Dshift time to me
>>
anyone have a recommended deck for climbing the ladder B3+?
>>
>>160963397
Forte is not a deck anon
Every single dragon deck runs forte
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>>160963519
What could they even do to make decks like non-forte Dragon and Blood good?
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Thanks rat bro.
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>When you're playing an aggro deck and they drop that turn 6-7 ward blocking you from lethal next turn but you topdeck Dance of Death
>>
>>160963772
give dragon non-shit board clear and card draw
fix vengeance
>>
>>160963569
Cute!
>>
>>160963772
There is no non-Forte dragon.
>>
>>160963705
I mean, the only reason face dragon exists is because of Forte.
>>
>>160963772
Exploring more the ability of these classes with good cards with more gimmicks like elana and powerful lowdrops
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>>160963580
I'm in A rank and all im getting is Blod, Dshift and Midrange sword kinda miss fighting haven honestly
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Lol
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>>160963875
Anon the only reason dragon is not bottom of the garbage dumpster tier is forte.
If forte was gone you would see nothing but C rank meme decks from dragon
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>tfw you win with a default deck because your opponent was blood and just did like 14 points of self damage by turn 5
>>
>>160963930
Right no contest (^:
>>
>>160963825
Huh, that might actually work.
Non-face dragon might be kinda decent if they had good card draw outside of Discard.
Maybe something like DING DONG on steroids?
>>
>>160963569

>Cygames trying to ride on the rine gone popularity

Well, there dies a meme.
>>
>>160963930
right and only pick ambush cards

left and steamroller against any decent player
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>>160963917
>Blood
Literally free wins nowadays
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>>160963970
I'm aware. I'm not bashing Forte. Just using her to identify face dragons.
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>enemy plays Otohime on an empty board while I only have one follower
>go face and conflagration everything
>Immediately plays Otohime next turn

ebin
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>open 3 free packs from dailies and login bonus arena ticket
>forte and bloody mary
Today was a good day
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>>160963998
Sometimes blood players confuse me
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>>160963780
np
>>
>draft shitty sword deck
>win 5 matches anyway
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>>160964153
I wanna slap her bread down to the ground
>>
WTF why am I get Darkness Evolved packs from Arena all of a sudden? I fucking need original packs to get Forte. This is bullshit. Do I need to switch a toggle somewhere?
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>>160964047
I like dragon's whole "make a card better by X where X is the your largest damage on the board"
I suggested something like this,
7 mana draw 3 cards, reduce the cost of this card by x where x is the your largest damage on the board

Can't be abused by aggro, but gives dragon cheap draw in the lategame.
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>>160964153
I'm quite envious.
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Is homecoming useful for anything more than 800 vials ?
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>>160964279
it's an event active until the end of the month
you can't toggle it
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>>160964298
That's busted, but i like it.
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>>160964279
Toggle your time machine to go a week into the future
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>>160964138
And I'm telling you ramp, storm, ramp-storm, control and midrange dragon ALL run 2-3 copies of forte.
Forte is the only win condition dragon has.

The only decks that might not run her are satan and discard decks and they are firmly meme tier right now
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>>160964434
>>160964413
What a load of shit. I guess I should expect this sort of money grabbing tactics from Japanese mobile game developers. Fuck them though I'm not gonna cave to buy normal packs.
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>>160964298

I can get behind this

it's an understandable topdeck as well, you can still get salty about it, but there's still room to blame yourself if your opponent is able to win off it.
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>>160964153
i buy the forte pack because she is cute but i don't any of her cards i failed her
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>>160964505
>buying packs
Dummy.
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>>160964298
>evolve forte
>Draw 3 cards and get 7 damage to face.
I really like this, might make Control dragon a thing.
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>>160964298
It's weak without a body.

Should be 7 mana. Draw 3 cards. Reduce mana by X where X is the largest damage on the board. 7/7. Reduce attack and defense by X where X is the largest damage on the board. So if you have a 5 attack creature on the board it's 2/2/2 draw 3 card. If you have no creatures on the board it's 7/7/7 draw 3 cards.
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>>160964486
Wild hunt and siegfield is super good though. :")
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>Pascale calls you a creep when you have her attack

This broke my heart. All I wanted to do was hug her fat dirty covered tits with my two inch micro-penis. Is that so much to ask?
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Im surprised about how similar the urias dub is to the original.
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>>160964486
>9/11 isn't a wincon
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>>160964695
She's the main reason why I changed to dub and liquefied her for 2.5k
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>>160964415
>>160964646
Dragon needs something busted right now.
Their most busted thing is forte, which is 5 damage from hand with 6 mana.
That's pretty shit when you think about it.
Sure it can get up to 12 but that's with urd and an evolve point.

Forest can get up to 20 damage from hand.
Rune can get 4 turns in a row.
Haven has a boardwipe as well tempo amulets.
Sword can fill the board with 2-3 cards and has amazing card draw and board buffing abilities.

Dragon's seabrand drake is a better finisher than forte. Only one damage less and one less mana so you can play 2 in a turn.
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>>160964695
Shut the fuck up. Loot at her feet
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>>160964695
>Not wanting her to verbally abuse you
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>>160964695
>It's just like real-life!
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>>160964664
It's pretty good but not against this meta of tokens, aggro and combo

The best targets are ironically other dragon decks, and midrange/control sword.
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>>160964486
>polyphonic roar
>genesis dragon
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>>160964802
sub*
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recommend me a deck, face dragon just isnt cutting it B+
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hi can i get concede pls 25269
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>>160964919
is she part bird?
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corruption cards when?
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>>160965076
Dust your rose and Gandalf and make a control shadow deck.

Or make a cheap Midrange sword.
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>>160965076
dshift is boring as hell but can deal with all the haven players
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>>160964893
Yeah i agree
We might need even more since all it does it let you keep up in advantage and maybe use your removal to out-pace them, but we might need something like a strong boardclear, maybe something like deal 2-3 damage to enemy minions if overflow is active for you on a Minion, maybe cut it down to 1 and put it on an amulet that triggers at the start of every turn for both players.
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>>160965116
That's my fetish
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>>160965023
>polyphonic roar
>being run

Genesis is okay too, but you can play other stuff with forte like removal to past taunt.
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>>160965116
Does lucifer count?
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>>160965098

ty friendly luna player
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>>160964505

>he doesn't want to profit from stocking all those arias and garudas

What a tool.
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wew lad
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>>160965182
>telling someone to go rune
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>no playable cards at turns 4 and 5
>the other guy has perfect curve
I really am going to punch something today.
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>>160964279
>implying you'd pull a Forte

Just enjoy your vials Anon.
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Got a Merlin last night out of a pack, crafted a second to finish up my DShift deck.

Felt good.

First pack I open today is a third Merlin.

I have the most conflicted feels right now.
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whatre the JP sites for the meta decks?
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> play the classes I like
> haven elana/seraph storm
> I'm sick of this shit time for dshift
> get matched against aggro blood every time

STOP IT STOP IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>160965182
>D-shift with only one Merlin
>Play solitaire with a terrible chance of grabbing and setting up your wincon.

Anon pls.
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>>160965389
Some decks run 3 Merlin
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>play polyphonic roar in arena
>it gets executed
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>>160965389
But three merlins is good in Dshift
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Leonidas VA is best Jap VA, right? I can't be the only one who thinks so. That's why I run 2
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C-can i get a concede.
36770
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I only feel alive during wins like this
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>>160965076
Face dragon carried me all the way to A in under 120 wins. Git gud.

You also only have 2 Forte which is more than likely the issue.
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>Finally feel like I should build a deck
>Look up some decks
>Look at my vials
>45 hours into the game I still have like 600
I guess I just insta-concede in T2 if I want some new cards? Jesus christ pay2notgrind is real.
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>>160965545
I can't even understand what he's saying when he attacks but it gets me so pumped
I wish he wasn't so slow
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>>160965617
probably, might just dust for it, but i think i'll be better off with something else?
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>>160965116
holy shit, my dick
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>>160965552
T-thanks shadowfriend.
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>>160965714
no problemo
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>>160965617

Face dragon carried me to AA and you can make it to Masters with T2 decks. It will just take longer.
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>>160965116
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>>160965521
>play wyrm spire in arena
>many turns later, evolve a lizardman
>after two turns, both lizardmen get turned into dragons, letting enemy hit face and win
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>>160965461
This is how I feel, except with Seraph Haven. I love that deck, but whenever I play it I go up against Rune guaranteed. Once I switch to Aggro Blood, I just get wrecked by its counters.
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>>160965630
You did some wrong choices like not re rolling.
Banner deck, Aggro blood and elana haven are cheap to make and effective
But why you don't just play t2?
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>>160965116
Forced magic corruption is the worst corruption
Willing and/or unnoticing corruption are the only kinds worth worrying about
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>>160965756
>>160965116
>wanted to try this game
>It's actually worse than facebook shit
I'm glad we're getitng some of the great card art in SV at least.
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>>160965663
Well obviously you can work on a midrange sword or tempo forest deck and have a better time overall but Face dragon is just a cheaper alternative if you don't want to make those decks and it can take you all the way to AA if you're decent with it.

When I hit A I spent all my dust on forest because forest is fun
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>>160965756
Is that what happens when a dingdong loses their bells?
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>>160965116
Speaking of corruption does anyone have that one picture about the total slut turning into a "normal" girl, going from dark skin wearing jackshit and piercings to regular cutie.
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>>160965854
It's a old model mobage so yeah.
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Oh boy
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>>160965778
It's too random, not fun at all for me. With my own deck I can at least know how it all interacts with each other.
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>>160965630
45 hours in I had 2 full aggro decks and like 10k vials. You messed up somehow mate.
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Rev up those Dork Dragoons!
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>>160965964
NO BULLYING ALLOWED
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>>160965756
Corrupting angels is okay
>>160965116
Corrupting cute innocent mortals is not
They actually have dreams and aspirations
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>enemy evolves
>trades into mordecai
>concedes
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>>160965545

But that's not Andras.
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>>160956272
T2 have the own charm don't know how someone can enjoy playing woth rge same meta deck all the time.
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>>160965181
>>160965483
>>160965617
>>160965749
Thanks for the input, I'll dust for my last forte and get gud at dragon.

Then save up for forest.
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What are the most common decks in B rank? I had to slog through a bunch of Elenas for the rank test so I'm not optimistic.
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>>160966060
where are my luna's ear buns????
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>>160966060
I love banishing all of Luna's last word minions!
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>>160965964
>>160966060
it keeps happening
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>>160965934
i think that i have part of that but no sauce
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Guys, dirtrune is dangerously fun to play.
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>>160966150
>I'll dust for my last forte and get gud at dragon.

You mean you'll CRAFT it right?
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>>160966164
i've noticed a lot of elana haven
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>>160966060
My daughterwife Luna is so cute
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>>160965756
Corrupted Bellringer when?
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>>160966139
>T2 have the own charm don't know how someone can enjoy playing with the same meta deck all the time.
for this>>160965974
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>>160965964
>use all your ramp
>only thing you top deck afterwards is 2 and 3 drops

Dragon needs card draw that isn't shit
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>>160966313
Why is she so suprised?
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>>160966313
i'll dust thorn queen to create my last forte
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>>160966375
Seeing dicks for the first time
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>>160966343
Counsel
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>>160966321
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I got two dimension shifts in my starting hand as Rune Dshift and couldn't pull off the combo before turn 8.

How the hell do these fuckers do it at turn 6-7?
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>>160966343

>Dragon needs card draw that isn't shit

Blood too, the only thing it has is that shit "damage yourself for 2 cards lol"
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>>160966471
> that isn't shit
4 mana get +1 card is really shit
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>>160959873
Before they implemented drawing two cards for the second player (when it was one), the statistics had shown that players who went first had a significantly higher win rate percentage.
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>Fight a Rune in t2 who goes second with Levis turn 4 and turn 5.
Guess I'm not winning this game.
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>>160966506
Delete this
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>>160966471
>Discard shit

No thanks.
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>>160966506
Delete this right now
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>>160966520
Get your dshift early and spellboost it fast
Caches and fate's hands are a must.
Getting it turn 6 is pretty much impossible. You need the absolute nuts.
Turn 7 is possible with really good draws though.
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>>160966528
Honestly, Blood Pact would be a lot better at 1 mana instead of two.
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>>160966528
It has that gold card which is never used too.
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>Want to save up gold for Forte Avatar
>Also want to buy packs so i can get my third Forte.
What do?
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>>160966667
Blood pact would be absolutely absurd at 1 mana.
2 mana draw 2 is already underpriced
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>>160966334
If I can't win with regular decks, why would I have fun not winning with stupid decks?
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https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.7.640Ho.640Ho.640Ho.640Hy.640Hy.640Hy.63_po.63_po.63_po.67pxY.67pxY.60COQ.60COQ.60COa.60COa.645AS.645AS.67st2.67st2.67st2.642Ey.642Ey.640IQ.640IQ.640IQ.60E5y.60E5y.60E5y.61PnY.61PnY.61Pni.61Pni.61SDo.61NLc.61NLc.659nE.659nE.67uqM.67uqM.67uqM

Should I make this deck?
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>>160966667
Blood pact is not that bad.
It gets you same card advantage as counsel at half the mana cost.

It's really forest and sword who have stupid broken card draw.
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>>160966735
And 2 damage though.
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>>160966735
>Says this in a world where Plea exists
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>>160966735
what is sacred plea
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Mordecai?
More like Mordecuck
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>Game is slowly but steadily pushing me towards Sword Shittery
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>>160966735
The problem is that 2 health cost is rather serious, It's shit in aggro bats because you want to be dropping wolves or Vania so it's only good(?) in control/midrange blood. I dunno if they run it or not.
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>>160966815

>It's really forest and sword who have stupid broken card draw.

And Haven with plea and all the heal + whynotdrawtoo cards
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>>160966834
Yes, that's the drawback for getting to draw 2 for 2.
>>160966848
>>160966841
Plea has the countdown, which is its drawback.
Is this your first card game guys?
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>>160966890
There's an aggrobat variant that has it for Darkgenerals
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Ran into a weird glitch where I finished my mulligan, but it showed the opponent deciding his mulligan forever. I thought he was going to disconnect, but then he suddenly spammed "what am I going to do?" emotes. Looked like the problem was on my end so I just decided to quit out rather than play forfeit chicken with him for 15 minutes. Good thing I can regain that win streak back fast with bannermeme.
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>>160966725
Buy the dork

What happens if they remove the option to buy with gold?
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>>160966841
>>160966848
A card that doesn't draw you cards until three turns later, or until you've done other cards to it to do the draw? It's more comparable to Dire Bond in that it's more of an investment

If you have no turn two or three play as Haven, Sacred Plea isn't going to help you at all.
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>>160966851
>game pushing me nowhere because i've gotten nearly no gold or legends

should have rerolled. all i do now is farm t2
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>>160966946
>2 face damage is not a drawback
ok
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>>160966890
CBlood has Dire Bond, you only run a copy of Pact at most.
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>>160966890
It works in aggro too. No more than 2 though obviously.
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>>160967003
It is the drawback. That's the point.
Were you just not listening or something?
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>>160966946
1 mana draw 2 against 3 mana draw 3
>>
This game sucks fat fucking assholes
What is the most braindead 0 input required deck so I can be like those people I play against?
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>>160966773
>gilgamesh
>wind god
>gabriel

No
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>>160966974
Those thigh's have convinced me.
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>>160966868
Just enjoy the Otomemes.
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>>160967003
>blood
>the class where controlled face damage to yourself is actually good
???
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>>160967106
>brain
>card game
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>>160967081
But you don't immediately draw the cards, which is actually a pretty big deal.
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>>160967064
It works in an alternate aggro blood which isn't as strong as the SANIC SPEED one. Using it in said super fast one is bad.
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>>160967003
>literally says that outright that 2 face damage is the drawback of the card
>are you saying 2 face damage isn't a drawback???

So this is the average intelligence of someone who complains about Haven constantly.
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>I have to wait 3 turns for my 2 card draw that costs 1 pp, that's sooooo much worse than the 2 card card that costs 2 HP and 2 pp
>But I can also instantly get three cards for 2 pp :^)
>Havenfag logic
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>>160965974

Compared to hurtstone, T2 is at least more consistent since everyone will get the same amount of silvers, gold/legendaries (Lumped together) and bronzes. While in hurtstone you can get bullshit like 2 Dr 7 etc.
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>>160967143
Can you not read? Brainless, I want no brain.
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>Rank doesn't matter until A0
>Get to B0
>immediately nothing but meta
Granted I don't see forest much, but there is plenty of Haven and Rune.
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>>160963930
LOL
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>>160967137
>controlled face damage to yourself is actually good

Vengeance is and always has been a shit mechanic considering how easy it is to get bursted down.
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>>160966975
>3 mana draw 3 cards
>1 mana draw 2 cards

Yeah if you draw it past turn 4 or so it's not great.

But it's just broken if you play it in the first three turns.
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>>160967265
weird, it's nothing but forest and haven in rank C for me
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>>160966974
>Want to buy Dork
>I never play Dragon so there's no point
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>>160967137
It's actually not pretty good, it's fucking shit. Burning yourself to do everything sucks when pretty much every other craft can get a decent enough burst going to kill you.

Vengeance needs to be fixed.
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>>160967314
It doesn't even matter if you draw it later with the amount of countdown reduction effects that Haven has. You might not get the draw IMMEDIATELY but unless you're literally topdecking for some reason, that shouldn't matter.
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>>160967132
I would play Sword if Erika was replaced with Heles
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>>160967417
Except if you need to use other cards to trigger it early, that balances out the 1-cost to begin with.
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>>160967287

This better be a 5-0 or you suck.
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>>160967462
Except no, because those cards also have effects of their own, whether it be Holy Water for Elana or Dogma drawing a card itself.
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>>160967446
>Heles
>sword
Oh boy Helesfags.
>>
Plea+the reduce 2 cowdown=draw 3 and 3 mana in the same turn
Dire bond=put blood in lethal range
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>>160967446
>SWORDcraft
>spear user
>>
>Beat an aggro sword draft who just goes face the whole game in t2
>He ragequits
Why is it always the face players?
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>>160967536
>Called Royal in Japanese
>Heles is literally a royal
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A card this sexy shouldn't be allowed to be so shitty
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>>160967536
>>160967594
It's a sword on a stick. Besides not all Swordcraft cards use Swords and the class is called ROYAL. It's a generic soldier/army/fighter themed class.

I don't play Granblue, I tried but it runs like crap and I don't want to deal with it. I just have an armpit/bare back fetish.
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>>160967639
>Is called royal when it should be called maid
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>>160967537

>2 cards is better than 1 card

Gee, how terrible.
>>
>>160967639
>>160967685
Not even JeAnus is Sword, dumbfuckers.
>>
If you are interested in playing in a tournament with /svg/ players, please register below.

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If there is enough interest in /svg/ hosted tournaments, I will offer steam cards to winners in the future.
>>
>>160967027
That tummy is delicious
>>
Why does banish exist?
This is a stupid fucking mechanic especially since you give it only one class.
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>>160967729
Sounds fun, I'll register later when I'm at my computer
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>>160961157
Site?
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>>160967751
>The only card game I've ever played is Hearthstone and I don't think deathrattle should have a proper counter
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>>160967660
Hey she's decent
in arena
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>>160967751
It's a fine mechanic.
The problem is banish cards are costed way too aggressively for the benefit they allow.
Blackened scripture should cost 3 mana, cudgel nigga should read banish a follower with 2 or less health.
>>
>subtitles don't match what is being said
Don't know why I expected anything different
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>>160967751
Haven tears
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>>160967751
Did little baby luna banish your super cool legendary again darling?
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gg dragon dude
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>>160967840
>proper counter
>available to only one class
>has no drawback to its advantage

sounds cool
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>>160967983
That happened to me once due to lake of attetion. Thankfully, the guy conceded first.
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>>160967952
>>160967976
why do these comments make no sense?
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>>160968124
>autocorrect lack but not attention
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>>160968067
>available to only one class
You mean easily available to 2 classes and available to every single class in the late game?
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>>160967948
The problem is they chose to make Haven's main means of removal banish to make it unique.

It sucks because look at Rune. Rune has a bunch of regular removal as well as banish which makes it even more obnoxious. People love complaining about Haven in regards to banish, but Rune is a lot worse.

Haven's banish is specifically really bad for Shadow because it focuses on low health followers. Other matchups don't really care beyond having their cards removed, with the exception of a single card from Dragon.

Rune on the other hand can banish your card no matter how much health it is. A single earth rite for a full enemy screen banish is ridiculous. It's a little harder to setup than Themis, but also doesn't clear your side of the board or trigger Last Word.

Petrification is absolutely insane. 3 mana turn any card in the game into a 2/2 is arguably the single best removal card in the game value wise. Being able to flatout banish a card is even stronger.
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>>160967983
I've seen someone accidentally deck out after playing Spellbook Decryption in arena. Most hilarious thing I've seen in Shadowverse.
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>>160968283
Let's be real, Odin sucks and comes down too late most of the time. He's played because there are literally no better options, not because he's good.
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>>160968352
And yet earth rite rune is tier 3.
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>>160968402
>comes down too late most of the time
>perfectly on curve versus Seraph which is basically the only thing in the game you absolutely need to banish 1 turn after it shows up

???
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>>160968283
Odin is a perfectly good example of proper banish.
Scripture and cudgel are not.
Haven loses nothing to get this stronger effect.

Rune is a meme.
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>>160968449

MOOOOOOOOM
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74960

Plz concede. I'll concede for you if you need it.
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>>160968442
Surprise, cards that don't do anything unless you've played other cards beforehand don't do so well. Elana gets away with it because even if Prayer is useless without healing spells the healing spells help you to both not die and typically draw you a card or are attached to a follower.
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>>160968352
>single card from dragon
>implying my turn 3 aeila does not get banished 90% of the time I play versus heaven

It's the most infuriating thing in this game.
Especially since there is no rhyme or reason to it. It's just another in a set of coincidences that makes haven fuck dragon in the ass for no good reason.
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>>160968628
And thus Rune's banish removal is perfectly balanced?
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>>160968449
https://u.nya.is/skptcy.mp3
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What if you had 30 life
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>>160968745
You could at least have the decency to use japanese voices.
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>>160968352
Petrify is absolutely balanced because you can't use it versus early game guys.
If you do you leave a 2/2 behind or use up a earth sigil.
Scripture has absolutely no drawback to use early game and can also fuck over shit late game as well.
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>>160968564
>>160968745

t. havenfags
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>>160968729
Rune's banish removal is balance because the set-up required to actually start banishing things fucking sucks. Earth Rite sucks. Having to have both halves of a combo just to banish things and neither side doing anything decent without the other sucks. Unless some Beastcall Aria-tier nonsense gets released for Earth Rite it's going to stay t3 shit where nobody cares about it because it's so rare that it's irrelevant.
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>>160968625
Thanks!
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>>160968813
Put some clothes on Elana.
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Speaking of Earth Rite, I think it's pretty baffling that its effects are A. not optional and B. unable to choose which Earth Essence to use since, unlike something such as Shadowcraft shadows, it actually makes a difference which Essence you use when you can interact with them with stuff like Kaleidoscope.
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>>160968745

kek'd
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>>160968843
I can't wait for the earth sigil that reads
>banish an enemy follower, add 2 guardian golems to your hand.
>it costs 3
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>>160968442
Yeah it's bad right now though it has plenty of potential. It just needs more early game strong cards that use earth rites.

>>160968538
Odin is a good example of a proper banish. He's also the example of a card that only works in control matchups. Scripture and Cudgel can be used against early game last words.

It would be stupid if Banish as a whole was reserved for late game. If people hate banish so much then add a silence mechanic, but it's fucking stupid to get angry that Last Word cards don't get a free pass.
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I can't win with forest. Call me bad, but I just don't know what I'm doing wrong. It just seems like I lose control of the board eventually.
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I ranked up to B0. Is it possible to rank down If I lose at 1100?
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another roasted as fuck garudafag
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>>160967265
B is where people start running meta decks, but it's not where they learn to play them.

It's the land of Storm Haven decks that grind until they run out of cards and Forest decks that miss PtP because they have 5 fairies dead on board. Aggro Bats that razor claw face when your ward is stopping 4 followers, and Swords that can't decide if they're banner or midrange.
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Need a concede please

36833
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>>160969080
>Forest nigga trying to get on the high horse
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>>160969080
>ptp forest

here's your reply
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>>160969080
>Beating_cancer_with_aids.jpg
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>>160969080
ファエリーちゃんのために!
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>No packs
>No balance
>No new feature
What was the maintenance for
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>>160969024
There needs to be a penalty to banish effects that don't make them just better versions of removal.

They should be for 2 health creatures, like price of magic is btw.
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>>160967302
>>160967361
>not playing and winning consistently with control blood

vampy fags
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Got 9 people to try out the game this week. Feels good famalam.
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>>160969369
Give me a control blood deck with 3 vampy
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Tough decision which should i pick?
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>>160969518
Right. Flute is legit in T2.
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>there are actually, literally people in this thread RIGHT NOW who don't vape while playing
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>>160969462
vampy is like forte
every decks runs 3 copies
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>>160969320
The majority of banish effects DO have restrictions and penalties though. Blackened Scripture is a glaring exception, there's really no reason why it should be a 2-cost for its target range. Other than that, Cudgel is just a Dragon Warrior that can't deal with fatties on its own in exchange for dealing with Last Words instead and people have already gone over how situational Earth's bigger banishes are.
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>All these butthurt Shadowfags and Dragonfags whining about banish
Oh to be so naive about the ways of the world.
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71065

PLEASE CONCEDE
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>>160969462
My control deck runs 2 vampy.
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>>160969518
Always bet on flute
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>>160969568
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>>160969623
different games have different mechanics
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Feels good getting that perfect game off on a havennigger.
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>>160969320
Banish itself is the upside, it's not any better than Destroy in the vast vast majority of situations which is why Cudgel and the 5pp Haven spell are more or less weaker Dragon Warrior and Dance of Death.

The exception is the 2pp spell which clears 1 defense higher than most 2pp removals, but those all come with some other upside.

Haven's relationship with Shadow is another issue completely, but banish effects are as it stands generally worse than destroy effects. Odin's great because of the meta but otherwise, the only thing making banish so good is that Haven is so good.
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>>160969623

But sword never gets back to standard, dummy.
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>>160969750
There is only one format that matters and it's not standard.
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>>160969610
that is a tiny drawback to a huge advantage
You never want to use dragon warrior for single target removal.
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>>160969563
>>160969695

How about this?

even with these good cards i still probably wont win 4 ;_;
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>>160969654
please concede for me too
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>>160969826
Are you fucking kidding me, homo? Right, and I better see a 4-1 MINIMUM results screen.
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>>160969853
okay concede-bro
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>>160969719
This is literally the same mechanic.
Except in Magic there are multiple ridiculously cheap hard removal banish cards.
>>160969750
To be fair there's also Path and Declaration, so you can cheaply exile things in modern and standard too!
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>>160969623
>lose before turn 10 because you only drew two mana
cool game you got there
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>>160969826
O L I V I A
L
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>>160969320
But why does there need to be? Every class is going to have access to different removal to compensate. Dragon gets a 1 mana 2 damage removal for example. Haven has banish at a low cost.

Isn't the problem more that certain classes heavily rely on low HP last word cards? That isn't Haven's fault.

Why is it okay that Dance of Death removes the use of pretty much every single non Fanfare late game card? Why can't Haven have their removal be banish to compensate for the fact that for a long time they had a really bad early game?

>>160969731
This. It's just Haven's removal spell at 2pp and Haven is strong right now so everyone immediately assumes every Haven card is broken.

In a lot of situations you'd have more use out of Dragon's 1pp 2 damage as you can clear early game cards earlier and still have additional pp. Scripture usually means you can't establish anything on the same turn early on. Cudgel is indeed worse than Dragon Warrior is almost every situation.

Shadow vs Haven is a very special circumstance that doesn't really speak to bad balancing in general, but just a really extreme matchup. It's bound to happen in the same way that anything vs Shaman or 90% of the decks vs Warrior is an instant extreme matchup guaranteed loss too.
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First legendary in weeks and it's the one I'll actually enjoy playing.

Gonna build the wall and it's gonna be great.
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>>160969731
Cudgel is not a weaker version of dragon warrior
You never use dragon warrior on something that's going to survive.
You never use it one the same target a his rush unless you are really desperate.
And you not being able to use it in desperate situations is not rally a drawback, you're probably fucked anyways.

Both cudgel and scripture need to be on defense 2 targets.
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Punishing greedy fucks is the best thing ever
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>>160969805
But it's not in Modern either!
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>>160960462
Lilith truly is bestgirl
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>>160969819
Except it makes Dragon Warrior far more useful in later turns. If you ran Olivia, he could actually have merit as late as turn ten or further because he's essentially a seven damage nuke. On turn five and six, he still has immense value because of this. He can trade and clear nearly every follower in the entire game.

On the flip side anytime your opponent doesn't have a follower with 3 or less HP, Cudgel is a mediocre 4 drop.

People think Dragon Warrior is worse because Dragon isn't as strong as Haven and therefore it's more rare to lose in a match against Dragon (or even play them) so of course Dragon Warrior won't seem as strong.

But the reality is that outside of Shadow, you'd rather have Dragon Warrior. He's far better in Arena too.
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Should I switch to the Japanese voices?
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>>160970191
only if you play sword
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>>160969952
>haven ruins the design space of all the other classes
>It's all the other classes fault

Haven is single handedly fucking dragon and shadow back into tier 4
Do you not see how that might be a problem?

>Why can't Haven have their removal be banish to compensate for the fact that for a long time they had a really bad early game?

They have an amazing early game. They get a 1/3 ward for 2. They get a 2/2 ward that reduces damage taken. They have a 2/2 for 2 that's immune to removal.
Haven's problem is that they are too greedy because they have broken shit like aria they want to play instead. Their early game does not suck, they just don't use it.
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I-I did it!
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I'm tempted by two mana but win condition (even if it's as weak as polyphonic) and neptune (already have one and odin) are nice to have.
Deathmist might also help me clear out elves and swords.
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>>160970256
Don't forget the 2/4 ward for 2 if you just play it after your evolved cudgel.
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>>160970256
>Single handedly fucking dragon and shadow back into tier 4
>Aggro dragon and Aggro Shadow are both tier 1, with Aggro Dragon arguably being tier 1 on ladder.
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How do we balance Haven and Elf?
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>>160969986
Cudgel literally has a single target in the meta that Dragon Warrior doesn't deal with, and it's fucking Water Fairy.

Dragon itself is shit but Dragon Warrior can kill a max stat Ancient Elf on curve, he can set up Siegfried or Warded Dragon plays, and in an extended game state he can trade upwards.

Hell, a lot of tournament winning lists run Sledgehammer instead of Cudgel. Cudgel only gets so much love and hate because playing him on the same turn you get a 2/1 bird and a 4/4 tiger out is ridiculous.
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>respectable tier
dragon blood shadow

>pushing it tier
rune sword

>degeneracy tier
forest haven
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>>160970431
Whoops, meant tier 2 obviously.
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>>160970164
If you need to use him as a 7 damage nuke it means he probably wont survive it.
Only versus goblinmount.
In the vast amount of time I played dragon I almost never used him this way.
There are better options if you need to remove a single target. And there are not better options when you need to remove multiple so you need to save him.
Same with cudgel. If he's a mediocre 4 drop then that's that. You should play something else.

Haven having a better midrange game than dragon in general is something else entirely but it has everything to do with dragon warrior and cudgel as well.
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I have 3 5-0's 1 with each of them so what do
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>>160970441
how do we balance sword?
it has a ridiculous winrate going second and you know why
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>>160970431
>>Aggro dragon and Aggro Shadow are both tier 1

You don't actually think this, right?
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>>160970431
>tier 1

Barely tier 2.
And it plays nothing like dragon should play.
Having the ramp class's only viable deck being an aggro deck that runs no ramp is retarded.
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>>160970441
Haven is easy. Gut Aria and Garuda.
Forest is trickier. Looking at Roach and Ancient Elf is probably a good start, but there's no one card that pushes Forest over the top. It's the combination of everything they can do that does it.
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>>160970597
Why do we need to balance cute girls when we can balance bald old men instead?
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>>160970164
I think you're underestimating how useful banish is versus Last Word
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>>160970597
We really need to have going second be less advantageous.
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>>160970473
>Cudgel literally has a single target in the meta that Dragon Warrior doesn't deal with
>because it forced all the other good targets out of the meta by being broken against them

What a fucking wonderful thing that is
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>>160970597
Every craft gets a reactive anti-evo card in the expansion with a powerful fanfare that activates if the opponent has an evo out.
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>>160970561
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>>160970679
And how many decks have last word minions running around that are too early for Odin to be a good answer to? 2? 3?
Everyone whining about banish is clearly just a Shadowcraft player. So your graveyard themed deck gets fucked by exile, big whoop. Welcome to life guys.
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my nigga verdant steward couldn't save me from this one
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>>160970658
Maybe remove the draw on that one card that puts a card back in your hand aswell, I agree with nerfing Elf and Roach though. Not too show HOW you could do it.
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>>160970784
And powerful 5pp evolve effects.
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>>160970679
And you're vastly overestimating the prevalence of Last Words in every class but Shadow and maybe Aiela unless you're using Cudgel's banish on a Water Fairy or something.
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Alright here is my deck. I just hit B0, and its gotten pretty tough to win lately. I know I need a third Ancient Elf, but besides that is anything else wrong? I do alright when I play Aggro Blood, but feels like I only win with Forest if my opponent opens bad, or is just straight up worse than me. I think its more so me just not knowing what the fuck I'm doing.
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>>160970775
Cudgel was around before DE anon. It didn't mean shit then, he's a symptom of Haven cancer, not a cause. He didn't push Shadow out and he didn't push Ramp Dragon out.
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>>160970775
Do you think Cudgel was introduced in DE or something?
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I feel like I'll die before sv get any new content.
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>>160970653
this also applies to shadow lol.
Aggro shadow is dull as fuck, you have all these neat combos based around last words and sacrificial plays and then aggro is basically just grind up enough low cost pawns to start spamming the fucking ghost voice line so many times your opponent concedes even if you don't have lethal.
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>>160971126
Aggro shadow is fun because it plays 3 of best dog
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>>160966528
That seems about right. Blood is kinda like black in mtg and black card draw is generally damage for cards.

How about an amulet that costs 2 or 3. Once per turn you can use it and pay 1 life to draw 1 card. Or just make it a start of turn draw 1 pay 1 life effect?
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>>160970918
It's definitely just you. Forest is tricky to play, the class definitely has a learning curve to it. PtP is harder than Tempo but Tempo isn't as straightforward as other midrange decks, despite what some people would have you believe
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>>160971193
As does every Shadow deck that ever existed and will ever exist until the game dies because Cerb is fucking absurd?
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i slowly came to the conclusion that everyone in /svg/ is a sword main
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>>160970918
How many Cynthias are you running? It's cut off. Personally I wouldn't run Angelic Barrage in B rank, I didn't run into very many Forest decks at all, and you should be more than fine against Aggro Bats without it, though maybe missing one Ancient Elf for it kinda sucks.
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>>160971126
I do think Aggro Shadow is way less interesting than the other Shadow variants but it's really exactly how you'd imagine Aggro Shadow to be. All the Shadow builds run a similar core and grind to take game state until they have their respective 1-2 play set up. Aggro Shadow just happens to go face.
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>>160971360
I am not!
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>>160971228
>asking for a worse version of Dire Bond

for what purpose
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>>160971360
>Not Haven
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>>160971360
I main Swordcraft - Royal Banner and Havencraft - Storm.
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>>160971327
>seven mana for 4 damage and 3/3 in stats legendary
>meanwhile haven gets 3 damage, 4/4 in stats and cd reduction which is usually used to trigger amulets that do 2-3 more face damage
>for 6 mana
>it's not even legendary
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>>160971487

No, you are a Braindead - Faggot.
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>>160971472
>haven discussion
>everyone shitting on haven
>sword discussion
>everyone defending sword

huh
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>>160971360
>maining

Why do people do this? How can you have fun playing mostly only one class?
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>Have the game-winning combo for 3 turns but I need vengeance to activate it and the opponent waits until he can kill me in one turn before attacking my face
Fuck
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>>160971361
I run 2. I had it at three, but I felt like I was drawing it at the worse times. What would you suggest I run over barrage? I have two slots open until I get my third Ancient Elf.
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left seems more consistent, but otomeme can carry games so fuck
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>>160971360
Sword and Shadow are the most popular classes here. That's why everyone whines about Elana Haven specifically more than the turbo-cancer that is Storm Haven.
It's also why there's not much hating on Sword despite Sword being just as cancerous as Haven and Forest
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>switch to jp voice acting
>dork no longer sounds like a dork

I feel like I made a mistake
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>>160971449
>You'll never be a cute loli with a sexy dom mistress
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>>160971487
>2 most braindead decks next to PtP
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>>160971601
pick feet queen.
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>>160971601
I'd go right, but you could flip a coin and not be wrong here.
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>>160971540
Being mad won't stop me from picking up that free win off of you.

>>160971629
>that assfang
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>>160971514
They're different beasts, comparing them is stupid. They do different things and play different roles. A better comparison would be Garuda and Cursed Soldier, which is hilarious.
Also Cerb is the better card in the long run.
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>>160971601
Both are really good, so just go with whichever one you like more really.
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>>160971558
Because I enjoy becoming better and better at playing my deck
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>>160971629
I just want to feel her body on top of me
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>>160971614
I think Blood is more common than Shadow here. That said as a Shadow player I think the severity of the Haven matchup is pretty overstated, it's quite winnable. You just can't play your Hell's Unleasher on curve. Elana is a worse matchup than Storm is.
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>>160971629
I want this Dork to sexually assault me.
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>>160971710
>>160971713
>>160971792
tails never fails
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>>160971702
>PtP
>Braindead
Here's your (You) anon, a pretty old bait but I'm sure you'll still get some people.
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>>160971360
Who /rune/ here
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>>160971581
It depends on what you're losing against. My list is the same as yours except -2 Angelic Barrage, -1 DoD, +1 Ancient Elf, Cynthia, and Blessed Fairy Dancer. If you run into a lot of Batcraft or Banner Sword, Angelic Barrage probably works well there especially since you're missing the Elf. If you find yourself against Runecraft and Havencraft a bit more, I would look at Cynthia again or Blessed Fairy Dancer, usually in those matchups I feel like I win if I get a decent board to stick and get one good round of buffed damage in before looking for a roach finish or something. I think if what you feel like you lose to is just not being able to maintain a board, part of that just comes with practice in learning what to anticipate from each deck and playing around it.
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Give me a good deck and I will liquefy every single card in my entire inventory to make that deck. If it fails then I will no longer have viable options to play this game with and will finally stop playing this shit game and finally play better games.
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>Altered Fate into Altered Fate
End this fucking meme already. I've been enduring this bullshit since fucking June.
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>>160971829
Shadow is the most commonly played class here. We had a poll and Shadow was decisively in the lead.
Also yeah it's a ridiculous exaggeration. Yes Banish hurts Shadow but it's not like they get completely shut down. It's just bad players blaming everything but themselves for losing or tilting for getting countered.
Fucking degenerates.
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>>160971360
I main Blood though.
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>>160971949
Banner.
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holy shit I just noticed every good deck in the tier 1 tier 2 lists have cards that are 90% from the darkness evolved packs

should I just wait for the next expansion before burning all my gold?
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>>160971829
I main Storm and Elana is one of the worst matchups for me too

unless I go balls in and kill her by turn ~8 it's pretty much over
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>>160971449
Are you implying phyrexian arena is shit?

Sure that card refunds your damage over 3 turns but you need to not die after playing it which is why it is only really played it bloody Mary decks.

Phyrexian arena draws you 1 card every turn. Will it eventually kill you? Probably but if you have it out for 6+ turns and still didn't win you were fucked to begin with.

Greatness at any cost.

They should give blood a dark confidant while they are at it.
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>>160972025
Too many damn lolicons in this thread
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>>160972009

>they will never give runecraft the power to run a mill deck
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>>160971949
Default decks are the best.
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>>160971558
I only have the cards/vials for one decent deck
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>>160971924
I was once Rune but laddering with DShift is a nightmare when half your matches are aggro decks. So I've made the leap into Forest cancer.
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> turn 8
> forte hits my face for 5, urd her, hits me again for 5
> clear both cards
> turn 9
> forte hits my face for 5, urd her, hits me again for 5

FUCK YOU FORTE
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>>160971898
>craft shit and return it to your hand
>blow up the whole hand
>again again and again
>>
>As you cum inside otohime she turns to look at you, places her hand over her belly, and says "the fishies are swimming"
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>>160972025
>Shadow is the most commonly played class here. We had a poll and Shadow was decisively in the lead.
Is that so? Interesting, I would have assumed it Sword.

>>160972091
Yeah Haven is my secondary class and I just use Storm. C2-3 was a nonstop Elana shitfest, it was horrible.

>>160972096
I am not a lolicon.
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>>160972092
a bob would be pretty sick
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>>160972060
gross but okay
>>160972141
i already gave up on my ability to make decks so I was just doing that already
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>>160972096
I'd be using Mordecai as my leader if I didn't need packs.
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>>160972247
Bob would be complete suicide in this game
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>>160972079
>90% from DE
PtP Elf is still fucking identical to pre DE other than Tia and Glimmering Wings. D.Shift still identical to pre DE other than Levi and Ice Form. Every Royal deck other than control plays only 2 cards from DE, Advent and the wide-hips assassin.

Only Bishop got pushed hard with DE.
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>>160972196
>plays 10 mana on turn 8
>does nothing for 10 mana
Have you tried building a board and threatening lethal?
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>>160971949
The only deck you will ever need in your lifetime
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>>160972326
You can change it so his damage is based on power instead of cmc. That way drawing an amulet or spell is like drawing a land in mtg.
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>>160972025
I dunno, the shadow-haven stats look pretty bad. Sure, people will use that to remove any sort of blame for themselves, but it's still pretty rough for the class.

And before you accuse me of being a Luna sympathizer, I'll have you know my father was a proud snowman
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storm haven can eat shit, leave aggressive deck play format forever please
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>>160972651
Storm haven is nothing to the cancer of elana haven

"Oh you have lethal? I'll just play curate into curate into curate into eat my giant overstated dick"

Haven is filled with too many bullshit cards.
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>>160972092
I prefer the Duel Deck art.
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>>160972815
>Too many bullshit cards
Aria
Garuda
So 2?
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>>160972606
Haven shitting on Shadow is fine, classes need counters. Just like D.Shift makes it impossible for any control deck to win. Prior to DE, every faggot who played Shadow built the deck entirely around the 11 damage from hand at 6 combo, into Cursed Soldier if you survived. Their early game is too fucking sticky to stabilize against if you're not Haven, and they can cycle and not run out of cards thanks to the 1 PP draw. Absolutely none of the faggots played "muh midrange, muh Mordecai" and that's in an environment where Haven was unplayable, and Odin didn't exist.

They're just whining now that they're not Forest tier cancer anymore.
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>play bannermemes
>never draw banner
>never draw maid leader

really makes you think
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I've noticed if I have four cards in play (including at least one Forst Bat) and play Vampiric Fortress, it won't activate at the end of the turn. But from the card's description it should activate (Try to summon a bat then destroy itself and hit face). What's going on? This has happened multiple times.
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>>160973009
The bat from the fortress will not activate the fortress.
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>>160972092
Making arena a 3-cost in this game would make it a strictly worse Bond, especially since it'd still be useless for aggressive Blood decks. I could see it being useful for aggro at 2-cost since they can better afford to drop it, but it'd still be taking up valuable boardspace. It could theoretically see use in Control, but Dire Bond will still outclass it there due to Mary combo potential.

tl;dr It's a good card but I really don't know what decks it would work with in SV.
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>>160973009
Fortress + 3 followers/amulets with at least one being a bat. You need to have the requirement BEFORE the fortress summons its own bat.
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>bouncing fairy beast
Just stop!!!! Yamero!!! Let me concede not like this
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>>160973009

You need at least one free board slot for it to work
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>>160972965
>classes need counters

I don't think it's good for classes to counter to such an unreasonable extent. DShift is equally unhealthy. It really kills fun and variety when you feel like you've lost before you even draw your opening hand
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>>160972917
elana is complete fucking bullshit
If you look at every healing card and a "give your board +1/+1" those cards will seem completely broken.
Seraph is also fucking broken, if you are in the late game you need to have lethal next turn every turn because he can just throw down seraph and if you can't kill him he wins.
Which brings up the next bullshit card, themis. Which can wipe that board you have to keep building because of seraph. So if you try to play it slow they can seraph and win. and if you flood they can themis and run you out of cards.

The whole class is retardedly bullshit.
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>>160973167
Nothing gets me hard like playing a fairy beast 3 times against aggro bat.
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>>160973234
YOU MUSTN'T BULLY
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>>160973185
Or you put Odin in your deck and suddenly Seraph isn't an issue?
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>>160973064
>>160973147
>>160973170
I don't understand why tough, the text of the card doesn't imply that at all.
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>Keep going first in Take 2
>Get bullshit like Incandescent Dragon with no removal, Forbidden Ritual on my Ambush Unica and Dance of Death ping lethal
>Fourth Bloody Mary from packs
>So pissed off I didn't even notice she was animated
Fuck, okay Mary, I'm already using your emblem. Please buff blood soon.

You sure feel it when you're really trying in Take 2 and don't always have the ideal kit of alternate tools to get around the evo orb shit, though.
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5-0 dragon dream with a top quality final game and a top quality finish for final game.

I droped dragonewt, ironscale and glint in a single turn wiping out the entire enemy board in the process.
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>>160973304
>have to tech a shitty card to combat the brokenness of one class
Wow, amazing
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Buff Shadowcraft's tits
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>>160973350
> If there were four cards in your area when the turn ended,
Your turn ENDS and then the fortress summons a bat.
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Can someone concede?
10858
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>>160973185
>If you look at every healing card and a "give your board +1/+1" those cards will seem completely broken
Yes, if you ignore the requirement of needing a card that can't be tutored, and the cost, any card will "seen completely broken".

>Seraph is also fucking broken, if you are in the late game you need to have lethal next turn every turn because he can just throw down seraph and if you can't kill him he wins.
We have 2 fucking decks dedicated to doing this a turn earlier, and they're more consistent, and unlike Seraph, they can't be Odined.

>Which brings up the next bullshit card, themis. Which can wipe that board you have to keep building because of seraph. So if you try to play it slow they can seraph and win. and if you flood they can themis and run you out of cards.
Will of the Forest, and Fire Chain clear your board 90% of the time, 100% in your case, because you're playing a shitty weenie face designed to do 20 damage as fast as possible, and then completely runs out of steam. Forest and Sword don't need a 3 PP brick to play overstatted followers, they play them on curve at no additional cost.
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>>160973364
Play a Mary deck
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>>160967287
silver bolt and ancient elf is the same character?
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>>160973445
Odin is far from a shitty card. Unlike other tech choices he's good against pretty much every deck that isn't face or DShift.
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>>160973458
But it didn't even summon a bat, it just did nothing
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>>160973541
It's evolved Ancient Elf, yes.
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>>160973596
It needs to be ONLY 4 cards in play. If you have 5, nothing happens.
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>>160973452
this desu senpai
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>Get enemy down to 1hp
>He wins next turn because he pulls better cards than me even though I was at 20
Are card games always this dumb?
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>>160973596
You can't summon a forest bat with 5 cards on the field.
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>Mission
>Evolve followers 3 times
>Essentially just "Play 3 or less matches"
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>>160973596
>summoning a bat when there is no space for it
Why would you expect anything to happen seriously
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>>160973690
>couldn't finish
You are a cuck now.
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>>160973452
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>>160973738
You don't need to win the match, unlike the other missions.
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>>160973468
g-guys? Anyone?
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>>160973846
Exactly. Just play the game.
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>>160973185
Just remember, Elana is easy to bully. <:^)
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>hard life choices
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>>160973102
Honestly bond seems more of a 6+ cmc card due to you only wanting to play it with Mary. That or when you are already ahead so it is win more. If you are behind you can't afford to pay 6 life for no gain that turn along with 3 mana.

How about a modified yowgmaw's bargain? There must be someway to make it work in shadowverse.
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>>160973491
>Yes, if you ignore the requirement of needing a card that can't be tutored, and the cost, any card will "seen completely broken".
Like what?

>We have 2 fucking decks dedicated to doing this a turn earlier
And the decks are made specially around that, not just throw a copy or two of this card and play it if you need to.
You don't seem to understand, you don't even need seraph in your deck. The opponent has to play around it the entire time. It's a card that's extremely limiting in what your opponent can do.

>because you're playing a shitty weenie face designed to do 20 damage as fast as possible, and then completely runs out of steam

This shows how much of a fucking idiot you are. Aggro decks don't give a shit about themis. The game is over before it matters. Themis fucks every deck that plans to do board control through followers. So every single midrange deck.
Only midrange Sword which has insane board flood has managed to live past this haven bullshit to remain higher than tier 3.
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>>160973964
lol
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>>160973816
Do you speak English or are you one of those neat bots that collects most-used words and outputs them?
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>>160973874
Thanks
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>>160973672
Including Vampiric Fortress? And the timing is to have 4 cards when I press End Turn? So it can activate if I have 5 cards while it resolves it after I press End Turn?

>>160973697
>>160973756
In other situations it would summon a bat but then banish it because there's no space. For exemple if I have 2 bats and 2 fortress at the end of the turn.
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>>160973496
Have something like that, yeah. Wardrobe Raider is a really nice flexible evo 4 drop and rest has good reach. Dire Bond's what I'm really missing but hell, I can make at least one now. Seems fitting.
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>>160973564
He sucks versus all tier 1/2 rune, forest, blood, and shadow decks.
He's kinda bad versus all tier 1/2 dragon sword and haven

He's not good versus any top tier deck
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>>160974109
I imagine this would blow your mind away.
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Never picking Blood again
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>>160974109
If you have 5 cards in play, nothing will happen.
If you have 4 cards in play and a bat on the field, it will spawn a bat then break and deal damage.
If you have less than 4 cards and a bat, it will just spawn a new bat, even if the newly spawned bat is the fourth card on the field.
If you have less than 4 cards and no bats, nothing will happen.
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>>160974231
You suck!
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>When they play Dimension shift again when they already have lethal
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>>160973496
>no Righteous Devil
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>>160974231
Looks like someone doesn't know how to draft Urias
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>>160974358

>>160974358

>>160974358

new thread
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>>160973001
>try adding a couple of Avant Bladers instead of conscriptions
>6 games straight and not a single banner off my maids

On another note. I hope the next couple of sets give us enough viable cards to run maid tribal
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>>160974331
I like it when they do, I want to know exactly how fucked I was when I lose.
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>>160974331
>Some fucker uses three when it only took one Dshift to win
This is why I have no shame playing bat vs Dshift
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>>160974410
I have no idea how this shit is coded.
But it seems like 90% of the time maid pulls bladers over banners for me. Even if I have more banners in my deck
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>>160974109
>For exemple if I have 2 bats and 2 fortress at the end of the turn.
But that's wrong. Fortress 1 activates, summons bat, then does 3 damage. Then Fortress 2 activates, summons the 4th bat, does 4 damage.
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>>160974175
Dire Bond is the MVP of Mary combos, having 3 of it will help you a ton. And yes, Raider is a blessing for dealing with aggro decks, she's criminally underrated.

>>160974005
Not gonna lie, I have no idea how that card would work in SV since it's so reliant on being activated, but I agree it'd be interesting if they somehow did it right.
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>>160973964
>Two decent golds vs Fucking Olivia and Otohime
No contest
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>>160974774
>decent
you spelled "complete garbage" wrong
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>>160973964
Dude Latham is the alt leader, he's gotta be good
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>>160974017
>And the decks are made specially around that, not just throw a copy or two of this card and play it if you need to.
>PtP Elf is made specifically around PtP
>It can't just fairy rush you, make huge Ancient Elfs, or Roach combo you with their infinite resources.

>It's a card that's extremely limiting in what your opponent can do.
What is PtP? What is every wincon?

>Aggro decks don't give a shit about themis.
Only Blood can afford not to care about board state, because they have over 12 damage in reach not including storm. You're a retard with no concept of how things work if you think Shadow, Dragon, and Sword aggro (the entire population of whining retards here) don't need a board to do function. They don't have the reach of Blood, a single ward will ruin them, and the very balanced DoD won't win them the game on the spot, because Haven can actually heal. Most of them rely entirely on storm for their reach.
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>>160972423
What does that word even mean though
>>
Pental Fencer looks like the most disgusting thing in SV.
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>Crazy and exciting back-and-forth match against a AA sword player in T2, barely edge out victory to go 4-0.
>Next battle against Taker of Two and couldn't draw any faerie generators. Lose steam quickly because I have two archers in hand but no faeries.
I-I bet that guy thought I was shit ;_;
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>>160974889
Latham on curve can be pretty hard to deal with properly in T2 without losing a lot of tempo for it even if he pales in comparison to any of the legos or Frontguard etc. Stratagem is winmore as fuck as always though.
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>>160974986
PtP is blatantly telegraphed by the deck.
Seraph is not.
You could be playing what you thought was storm haven and suddenly seraph out of nowhere.
Which is why you need to have a giant board against haven at all times and that gets abused as fuck by themis.

>They don't have the reach of Blood
>forte, seabrand
>Cerberus, cursed soldier, mummy
>demonic strike

Shadow and dragon aggro has plenty of reach to finish off a low haven player who just used all of turn 6 to clear the board.
Sword aggro can re-flood the board easily.

No it's midrange blood/shadow/dragon who got fucked.
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>no cards in hand to discard
>dragonewt scholar still draws you a card

I see the value.
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>>160957024
The class I love to play against the most is runecraft, they usually just die by turn 5 or 6 with bannersword.
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>>160976798
Same goes for Golden Dragon, Dragon's Descent and Shen Ron, That's why they're good on dragonflute decks.
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