World of Warcraft General - /wowg/

What is stat priority for ass rogue?
I see people talk about ither Mastery>crit>versa or Crit=versa>mastery...

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How are you enjoying Legion so far lads?

who 870+ but still one leggo here?

>>160912049
Wow that sword is ugly as shit, what a terrible OP picture

>>160912137
mastery crit for AP/poison build, crit/vers is bleed build, poison does more but you want a good amount of mastery before switching, it's also easier to play, not that bleed build is hard. just less buttons for AP.

>>160912118
to 10

How is legion compared to wod? Just finished exams and thinking about resubbing while I look for holiday work.

>>160912168
885(888 in bag) cuz i have 4 leggos but can only wear two

>>160912208
It's pretty great so far, a little bit of a grind but that's what mmos are made for, right?

>>160912149
I was enjoying it because I thought that blizzard would be fixing some of the classes and it would be a temporary period of wonkiness while they worked everything out.

Right now I'm just letting my sub run out because every blue post I see just reinforces that they have no clue what they're doing.

That and the fact they're making sweeping, massive changes (which they promised not to ever do) on an expac that they made as alt-unfriendly as humanly possible.

So fuck them. I think I'm done.

>>160912221
did you spam m+?

>>160912193
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=144395/artifact-research-synopsis

>>160912208
I finished my exams a fortnight ago and I've been playing since. Expansion is fun and better than WoD but it's kind of frustrating starting late, you can't help but feel hugely behind compared to those playing since the expac launched because of the big time gates. I just got my second legendary but I can't equip it for another 29 days because of arbitrary time gating bullshit.

>>160912149
it was going fine until they started gutting classes for no reason

>Realize belves actually look kinda cool
>Remember I made an oath to never play them

>>160912186
Thanks...What do you mean by poison build though? I thought bleeds do all the damage...Do i just use deadly as my main poison for it and agonising for bleed build?

Or do you mean mastery+crit is for using Agonising poison and Elaborate planning and crit\vers for hemo+Exsanguinate? This is all the diffirence in builds and i never use Deadly poison when building mastery+crit?

>>160912281
one from heroic hov, one from first boss in violet hold mythic, one from box, one from normal cenarius helping alt run

>>160912305
Patchnotes said to 10 and top comment says he can't use it after getting 10...

>>160912305
they originally said the catchup was to AK 10, and that is all the PTR allows for at the moment. I know on PTR is says up to 15 but unless theyre changing it then it only goes to 10, probably 15 in 7.2 or something.

>>160912076
because I wanted to play the new content for pandaria, and mages are cool.

Is there a reason not to have one?

>>160912306
I know pretty much nothing about this xpac but that sounds absurd. I guess I'd better start soon otherwise people will be even further ahead.

>>160912404
Source on patch notes and if you don't got one I assume it's supposed to be to 15 as the tooltip says

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>>160912049


>tfw your grand challengers bounty gives you a hot steaming pile of shit once again.

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>Want to swap one of my alliance over to horde to play with my lads since they all re-subbed
>50 dollary-doo's

WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZARD IT'S 2016

I CAN GET A SERVER TRANSFER AND A RACE CHANGE FOR LIKE 15 BONES ON FFXIV

THAT'S AN ENTIRE FUCKING GAME

>>160912149
Burned out trying to beat rng and unsubbed.

>>160912363
you use deadly for aoe situations, and yeah that's what i meant.

>>160912469
They're adding in all that stuff for tokens (aka gold) in 7.2 (or earlier?)

>>160912535
It's still fucking ridiculous.

>did my first m+ over 9 yesterday
>I was the one fucking up the most
>We didn't finish in time so I don't have the achievement

Fuck

>>160912535
I hope it's 7.1.5 I wanna name change but I'm not dropping $11 dollerydoos I could spend on goon instead

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>>160912149
I'm having fun on like 4 classes and look forward to 7.1.5 for the AK catch up

>>160912490
Thanks again, i guess im using poison build right now since guides that mentioned bleed build had 400% Exsanguinate...

While we're at it: what should i do on bosses with lots of adds? Switching poison mid battle 2 times seems a lot of hassle but so is doing no damage to adds. Do i just say "im assassin" and ignore big packs (still killing big adds)?

>>160911407

still looking for recommendations on classes to play

>>160912730
Also a cool name

>>160912730
All of the cloth casters have massive issues right now

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>3 guilds banned for helya exploit
How pathetic isn't that. It wasn't even for a world first, or 2nd for that matter, it meant fuck all lmao, now they're bent

>>160912730
just be yourself & follow your heart

>>160912606
well its still one of if not the easiest affix combos this week so you still have plenty of time to get it

>>160912810
How so?

>>160912816
Which 'exploit' is this?

>>160912854
Not revealed but it is assumed to be the breath related one.
If a tank died when helya was casting breath, she would stop casting breath for the rest of the fight, so they made the tank die during this period.

>>160912850
fire mage and shadow priest are getting a slight balance tuning, therefore the world is ending for all cloth casters.

>>160912843
Yeah, sanguine is not much of a problem if the tank is not retarded and overflowing is a non-issue

>>160912460
im scared of logging in

i know ill get garbage

>>160912908
Lmao 'slight'.

Fuck off, kid.

>>160912952
t. butthurt fire mage mop babby screamer

>>160912929
wait what, is it sanguin and overflowing this week?

that's easy as fuck

>>160912952
>Fire mages and shadow priests are top of the charts on 100 percentile in ToV
>people think they somehow do not deserve nerfs
??????? If you don't top charts with these classes you fucking suck ass

>>160912981
Bet you thought fire was overpowered too, lol

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>Level a rogue
>Boring as fuck and gets nerfed constantly
>Level a DH
>Fun, middle of the pack dps, gets gutted for no reason and enforces the unfun nemesis build
>Level a priest
Gets gutted next patch
wow.... Im having so much fun levelling and gearing all these characters. Thank you blizzard

>>160912330
Good. First you kinda like the way they look and next thing you know you're erping with people from here and posting images of your toon getting fucked by a wolf

>>160913052
What? Where are you getting that fire mage is even in top 10 on ToV?

>>160913052
>Top of the charts
>FIRE

hahahahahha, oh man. Feel free to link it moron.

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>that guy who ambushes you in a FFA PvP area and dies without even taking 10% of your health off

>>160912908
Yeah, fire mage is getting changed, but I'll still wait and see before switching spec. Speaking off which, based off what we've seen, will frost or arcane be better for pve in 7.1.5?

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got my third leggo (1st on this toon)
not bad granted he's got only 1d /played

>>160913114
>>160913115
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statistics/12#dataset=100&difficulty=4
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statistics/10#dataset=100
people look at their shitty non-top percentile and think fire mages aren't broken, but they fucking are and if you can play they are retarded, same with shadow priests.

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>>160913163
>Heroic

>>160913061
i don't think anything, blizzard knows best :^)

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>>160913151
>tfw 1 leggo and its sephuz


at least it's getting buffed

>>160913094
play druid
play bear
bear get nerfed?
play bear

>>160913163
You realise that
A) that's heroic
B) that's the bracers being OP, not the class, fuckboy. They're nerfing both the bracers AND the spec.

I'm already at ak17, I really didn't expect to get here so fast. At this rate I'll be at cap before 7.1.5 even comes out. What will there be then? Will they increase the cap? Will 7.2 or 7.3 increase the number of traits in artifacts? Will there be no more progressing my artifact other than relics?

>>160913197
>>160913250
There's too small of a pool on ToV Mythic, if you seriously think it matters you're retarded.

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>>160913151
>only got this shitty leggo.
Why am I still playing this game?

>>160913252
at 35 you unlock like another trait that you keep putting points into for some stat or w/e

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>resub just to get the HAA for my frost DK because we won't see soultakers for another 11 weeks
>didn't drop

>>160913265
>It doesn't matter that I'm taking the very cream of the top of fire mages, when someone pointed out an extremely rare it is OP for them, rather than the spec

Learn to read, champ.

>>160912149
not any more waiting for nost at this point.

>>160913291
because you're depressed and hate your life?

>>160913303
That only goes up to 20 and its just a flat damage/healing increase.

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>>160913094
I fucking hate what they've done with the rogue class in Legion

>lets take poisons away from all but 1 spec

>>160913352
it takes over 60 million ap to max out that trait

>>160913241
I was thinking about feral. How is it doing?

>>160913143
>that guy that fights people in the FFA arenas

>>160913094
>play enh
>fun as fuck in both pve and pvp
>my item drop uncluckyness gets compensated by the fact that enh legendaries suck ass and provide no serious dps boost
>pvp shit gets nerfed to the ground, now enh is just some useless shit that gets globalled by anyone at any time
>pve shit is about to get fucked by the next "tuning" patch
>at the same time, level a hunter
>like the MM style
>about to get fucked aswell
>don't even get me started on the whole artfact """"""catchup"""""" thing

WoD was the first expac ever to make me leave the game.

It was easier than I thought, I might aswell quit again if they keep shitting on my favorite shit.

>>160913321
>Aoe spec with highest mobility of all casters is topping charts everywhere except on an underrepresented difficulty in a side raid
>Yet complains that the nerfs are unjustified somehow
???? You realize what fire mage does right

>>160912149
I gave up on Legion, just riding out the last 10 or so days left on my sub then I'm done with the game.

Legion showed promise, but I was a fool to think that the horrid RNG / legendary system was good or that Blizzard wouldn't start gutting classes months after release.

I wish I did something else with my time and money than play Legion, it's such a clusterfuck.

What's gonna be fotm in 7.1.5? I only play fotm so I need to know what to reroll/gear up

>>160913143
>that guy who enters a FFA PvP in non-tank spec

if it doesn't need to be nerfed, why would blizzard nerf it?

#logic

>>160913390
feral is doing top tier

but it requires a phd in snapshotting to play

>>160913318
do you have 4 AK? if yes you needed to loot the boss and if you didn't it's probably in your mail
if you don't lmao @ ur life see you in 11 weeks good goy

>>160913435
even if we assume that you're right (and you're not), the proposed nerfs would literally kill the spec and that's just not justifiable

>>160913435
It doesn't top the charts other than mages that have the bracers, dumb fuck. Get that through your skull this time.

It also doesn't top shit anywhere else. It is not the top of the charts in ANYTHING. It's single target was trash, unless you had the broken legendary, and now it's even worse, along with its AoE.

Your the trade chat screamer that saw a rop+combust+living bomb pull and served the fuck out, despite fire averaging out to below average across an entire raid or dungeon. Boils my piss that blizz listens to you cretins.

>WW
>no cape, no boots
>both rings
fuck this expansion honestly

>>160913541
ah the epic "it will kill the spec" meme.
It won't, it has been changed to be in line with what it is supposed to do.
>>160913567
Bracers are getting nerfed, which is good, but even then, you can filter the logs to those without bracers, and they still perform really well.

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>guldie got his 4th (fourth) legendary
>i still only have one shitty one

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>>160913537
>it was an alt
>AK3
>could have had it in 3 days
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>160913506
what is snapshotting

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>>160913351
You're right.

>>160913628
It's below average to near the bottom without the bracers. Only thing it actually does decently at is big M+ pulls, which isn't something good or functional to specialise in when other classes do well at that AND other shit.

>>160913496

if its not broken, fix it until it is

like always with blizzard

>>160913697
>big M+ pulls
>An aoe spec doing well at what is supposed to do well in
nice.

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I see the Blizzard interns are still hard at work

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>>160913673
you have to snapshot all your bleeds with buffs before applying them

you have to do that for every single round of bleeds, and if you fuck up your dps will tank

>>160913753
>Reading comprehension

>FFA PvP world quest
>There's a retadin in the arena
Well time to kill myself

>>160913784
Only Rake snapshots btw, Rip doesn't snapshot afaik, and neither does Moonfire.

>they nerfed survival again

Fucking why?

Post yfw prot warrior ptr.

>>160912149
Started Mythics this week.
Fun so far. Still loads to do.

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>>160913831
>ffa pvp area
>2 DK's with 4mil+ health

Has PvP ever been in a worse state than it is in Legion? It blows my mind how badly balanced everything is and yet how dumbed down all the classes are

does Holinka feel no shame?

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>LFR ToV
>90% of the melee die to the first horn of valor
how

>>160913851
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=155672/bloodtalons

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=5217/tigers-fury

rip does snapshot, moonfire is not a bleed

>>160913905
That's totally my fault, I unlocked the artifact over the weekend and Blizz shits all over everything I play.

>>160913978
Bloodtalons is not a snapshot, it's a buff in another sense, meaning it will buff the damage no matter what.
Last time I asked on discord Tiger's fury only works on rake.

>>160913784
I feel really tempted because right now, but I feel like spriest is more useful in raids right now, also ranged dps and everyone and their mom has a druid now (most popular class probably)

>>160913946
>Rogue
>DK hits me once
>Vanish
>Cloak
>"No that doesnt work KEK"
>Get unstealthed
>Combat drops
>Hit stealth
>"No, retard that doesn't work get the fuck back here."
>Fucking diseases me across the arena
>Just sit down and bitch loudly in /say because my "utility" doesn't do anything while he fucks me in the asshole with his BIG DICK DEE PEE ESS buttons

>>160913946
what's scary about two scrubs with no damage/vuln buff in the ffa pvp arena? that means they've freshly died or killed no one at all

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>>160914061
>battlegrounds
>pvp ***templates***
>get global'd by a retadin

>>160912460
how did rich evans get so old so quick

>>160913606
Sephuz is honestly better than half of the possibly legendaries you could get once 7.1.5 comes. Shame both have shit stats but it could be worse.

>tfw prydaz and march of the legion

>>160914136
>Vanish
>Hunter pets STILL follow me biting my ass until I de-stealth
>This has happened for SIX EXPANSION PACKS

POST SPEC THEMES
MISTWEAVER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTKsHwqaIr4&feature=youtu.be&t=57

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>pvp templates
>crit-reliant classes with like 16% crit
>haste-reliant classes with like 14% haste
>every spec feels worse to play because of this
>can't do anything about it because hehe no gear everythings better now

>>160914303
rogue, all three specs

https://youtu.be/QhJ6bE4z5vs

>>160914347
wew that is some shit edgy music. my friends listened to papa roach in high school and i never actually heard a track until now.

good god that is awful

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>>160914136
>move into that arena pvp wq area because im a tank and tanks are overpowered
>arms warrior with berserk oneshots me with a 4M mortal strike crit

New full PTR Patch when?
i want to see the new stuff for arcane

>>160914241
Pryd is tank bis except for pally and warr

>>160912168
Literally me
At 871 now, haven't had a legendary for a month of emissaries, mythics and whatever. Any day now! right? ;-;

>>160914303
Every single class in the game right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxnokRvrcvI

>try out different servers
>some servers have 50ms more latency than others for me
>even if they're both low-mid population
>best servers in terms of latency that's also not a pvp realm is Moon Guard or Proudmoore

Help.

>>160914426
oh I know how good it is for tanks but I was talking Windwalker. If I wanted utility or helpfulness over damage I would play a tank or healer.

>>160914462
Seriously, they just nerfed a class that no one plays because it's so bad.

What the hell is Blizzard even doing?

Whose bright idea was it to put archeology dig sites in middle of elite mobs?
They need to get fired

>>160914501
LGBTrannies or futas.

We are doing mythic ursoc for the first time tonight and our RL thinks that we will not have enough dps.
Our average ilevel is 875~, is he just retarded or is it really that tight?

>>160914501
Did you seriously go through every single fucking server?

Also man up you stupid fucking faggot, play on a pvp realm or you deserve to suffer like the stupid fucking faggot cunt you are.

>>160914573
I'm not up to date on PTR stuff.

Which one?

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OFFICIAL DPS DIFFICULTY LIST:
1. Spriest
2. Feral druid
3. Sub rogue
4. WW monk
5. Frost mage/arcane
6. havoc DH with momentum build
All other specs and classes are equally easy and dont need to be numbered in terms of difficulty, although ret and BM are at the very bottom of the list

>>160913628
>No combustion
>Nerfing fireblast
It will kill the spec. These two spells are lynchpins of the spec.

>>160914738
Survival, nerfed all traps from 30s to 40s and made explosive ground target.

All because Waylay which allows traps to do bonus damage if they hit something out of combat.

>get a 5 ilv lower item with same stats but a gem socket
>cant sim because im a healer

>>160914642
I found an out. Lightbringer seems to be good latency for me too. Even if the wow realm site says it has a lot of characters, I'm pretty sure this server is pretty dead though.

>LGBTrannies
>futas
>dead server

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>>160914740
>Frost mage

>>160914740

I love my WW but it really isnt that hard. It definitely has a lot of tools to utilize but thats really it. I find Havoc harder to be played at a high level for ST.

>>160914740
>Mage
>"hard"

clunky is not that same as difficult

>WW monk on that list


>Feral not #1

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>>160914798
>My alt is a Survival Hunter

>>160914740
>Sub
>Hard
???

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>>160914740
>any class or spec in WoW
>hard to play

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>>160914740
>frost mage
>WW Monk
>feral
>any of those are remotely hard

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Gentlemen, would this work?
>have two accounts, same region, same bnet account
>one is an active legion account, other is an inactive WoD account which has an unused 90 boost (bought WoD for it when it was piss cheap around the end of WoD)
>create character on inactive account, boost it to 90
>transfer it to an active account
>level 90 character at the cost of a discounted WoD+paid character transfer

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Oh look, another week of getting absolute DOGSHIT in your weekly chest

I'm leveling my first DPS character and holy fuck how do you guys deal with queue times.

>TOKEN_REDEEM_BALANCE_CONFIRMATION_DESCRIPTION
>Add %s to your Battle.net Balance?
it's habbening, hyped to be able to trade my useless gold for Hearthstone packs
How much do you think tokens will trade in for? I'm wondering if they're going to go full jew mode or actually give a fair price considering they cost $20 originally.

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>>160914945
Just stay subbed, I'm sure it'll be better next week.

>>160914891
>>160914889
>>160914884
>>160914882
>>160914837
>>160914819
Easiest bait of my life

>>160915027
You can do quests/exploration meanwhile.

>>160915046
Reverse baited. Thanks for the (You).

>>160914945
>Complaining that free bonus gear isn't good

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>>160915046
>only pretending to be retarded

ebin trolle m8

>tfw about to drop survival for arms or ww
>it just keeps getting worse

It's my favorite class fantasy and is fun to play, but it's not fun to be bottom.

>>160915102
>>160915090
baited.. not once... but TWICE...

>>160914945
I only did two dungeons last week (my +4 key and the +7 it turned into), got an 870 with the best possible stats.
Pretty happy, even if it was actually only a 5 ilvl upgrade.

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>>160915046
>thinkung I took the obvious bait
>baited a (You) from your bait

>walk into town
>see my class is the majority
>overwhelming urge to reroll

>>160915248
>walk into my class hall
>nothing but rogues
>overwhelming urge to reroll

>>160915248
>Go outside
>See majority is breathing
>Overwhelming urge to stop breathing
This is you

>>160915120
Well done, very well done.

HOWEVER...

>>160915248
what do you play

shouldnt rogue have ability that resets their sprint cd if certain criteria are met? I swear I saw it somewhere

>>160915287
>walk in Hall of Shadows
>see troll rogue

they exist.

>>160912690
What should i as assssin do on bosses with lots of adds? Switching poison mid battle 2 times seems a lot of hassle but so is doing no damage to adds. Do i just say "im assassin" and ignore big packs (still killing big adds)?

All this talk about things being bad makes me depressed and I'm daf enough as it is

If only there were some cuties to brighten up the day...

>>160915384
Paladin. I absolutely loathe being the popular class, but it's the only plate armor healing class.

>>160915576
Maybe you should go look at some softcore porn rather than forcing your shitty avatarfagging preferences on the rest of us who actually want to play the game.

We're not /wpsg/ or /nostg/, where the only actual thread discussion is about literal whos and people rather than the game.

>>160915576
>attention whoring

here is your (You) spend it on bleach and drink it.

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>>160915287
>walk into class hall
>all these neato dk transmogs

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>>160915562
if there's gonna be a lot of cleave just stick to deadly

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>first legendary
How did I do?
Did I get it a lot faster than other players?

>>160913784
Sounds like Balance Druid.
It can get rather stressful in fights where you have to pay a lot of attention to other things.

>>160914740
>drakeposter
>not a retarded post
Pick one.

>>160915650
>>160915657
okay i'll just stop posting then if it makes it easier for you to complain about rng

>>160915248
>>160915638
I know you pain bro.
I played druid back in vanilla because it was the least played class on my sever.
Now I picked druid again and it's like the 2nd most played class. I wish they were less popular.

>>160915663
>tfw blood elf slut doesn't respond to your email

>everyone discussing R A R E classes
>suddenly aware that nobody plays male pandaren
>suddenly aware that nobody plays pandaren mages

does anyone know any Tauren Priests?

>TANK TIER LIST
BEAR
WARRIOR
BEAR
PALADIN

>SHIT TIER
BLOOD DK
VENGEANCE

>MEME KING VIABLE TIER
BREWMASTER

DISCUSS

>>160915732
Balance is literally a 4 button spec

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>>160915669
this was 4 hours played

>>160916041
troll monk
tauren monk
male dreanei

>>160916080
Why is blood bad? I was gonna tank with him

>>160912149
8 days til sub ends

fell for the meme, i was enjoying 1st until this entire class fuckup started, Main DK frost/blood being Gutted on the next patch on EVERYTHING, is Ret going to the shitter too

RNG sucks and timegating is retarded, it feels that is something made by nostfags and d3fags...

>get a 880 Glaivemasters Studded Grips from weekly chest last week
>get THE EXACT SAME 880 ITEM from weekly chest this week

That's what, 1 in a 100? Nice fucking loot system blizzard...

>>160916128
>Tauren Monk

100 crack hoof sounds p. fun, but aren't monks cancer FOTM?

>>160915957
i responded :x i think.

>>160912460
>do a +5 on my hunter just to get it before reset
>log in the day after
>get legendary and a titanforged upgrade of 25%

Never gotten that lucky again.

>>160916140
No defence(damage mitigation) cooldowns outside of bubble, going to be better after 7.5

>>160916093
Nah.

>>160916189
>7.5
>after the blood mirror nerf

>>160916176
monks are shit this xpac
brewmaster is the worst thank spec
windwalker scales awfully its okay in minigames though
mistweaver is pretty garbo for pve but its good in minigames due to mobility.

>>160916140

Hey, Blood DK here. I tank Mythic 4-5 Dungeons regularly. While the class struggled at the start of the expansion, it's improved a lot. I have no problem with the content I run. I imagine it's not the best tank for cutting edge content, but it's a solid choice for 99% of the players.

>>160916304
>after the blood mirror nerf
Shit i guess i missed that...

>>160916181
Yeah you did!

>>160916368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sCi_8wTa9U&feature=youtu.be

>>160916223
You have two dots which you don't need to maintain, then you have two fillers and then one spender and another filler from artifact.

It's incredibly simple

>>160916140
AFTER LOOKING IT OVER BLOOD DK ARE NOW
>OKAY TIER
BLOOD DK
>SHIT TIER
MEMEMON HUNTERS

>HS to dalaran
>after the one minute loading screen I'm dead
>look at combat log
>kirin tor guardians killed me
What the fuck?

>>160916304
How are druids? I liked playing my brother's Resto druid in BC.

>>160916413
That wouldn't be a nerf, unless you consider that ap exloit to be a "nerf" too.

>>160915663
How many people have emailed you so far?

>>160916545
4

>>160916530
I don't understand how you could compare people taking advantage of a bug where a quest would respawn indefinitely through logining and logging out.

To a bunch of guys that figured out blood mirror reflects over kill damage.

>>160916440
Actually 3 dots and 2 spenders.
Of course you are only talking about the simplified rotation.

The real nightmare is PvP. Literally running out of keybinds.

>>160915663
I guessed so...but i guess since im not doing mythics i can just leave AP talent as is and not bother with ex...exsaguinate?

>>160914740
>DH not second after spriest

retarded list

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>join worldboss group on 1% hp
>hit it
>get artifact appearance
sweet

>>160916617
Due to spaghetti code blood mirror acted not the way devs wanted so they will fix it, basically patching a bug, fixing an exploit.

>>160916510
Druids are great tanks, great healers
their dps specs are both pretty meh though.
feral has great single target but poor aoe
and boomkin.... not really sure why people hate it i hear if you get the legendary helm its viable though.

>>160916626
If you're running out of keybinds on fucking boomkin you shouldn't even attempt feral

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we finally get the frost hidden artifact appearance.

>>160916627
yup, with enough mastery it should outperform

>>160916694
there's spaghetti code and there's and oversight.
Blood mirror reflects overkill damage, its not a mistake it does that, it's part of its design.

Blizzard just didn't anticipate this fact could be taken advantage of, and in all fairness its a very rare thing to have that many blood dks in one raid so you can't really blame them for not thinking it'd ever happen.

>>160916737
I don't plan to PvP(Arena) with my Druid. Too much effort when other classes can do just as well by literally facerolling.

>>160916712
I think I'll play a tauren resto druid. Thanks desu lads.

>>160916779
It's just bad design

>>160912850
If you want to play ranged, go Mage or don't bother.
Non-Mages range from Bad to "How did this make it from Brain to Computer, let alone past the drawing board? Dear goodness, this is awful".

This is almost exclusively from a mechanical standpoint, not even touching on numbers.
The only exception to how bad the emchanics and class gutting is, is Boomkin. But even it is not anywhere near as good as where Mage is right now.

And when you see Mages complaining, it's not necessarily unwarranted, but it should also give you an idea on how bad a place the REST of the ranged classes are in.

>>160916910
legions full of that

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>step into the tunnel in monk wandering isle and get ported to orgrimmar and get hearth changed
>2 weeks later forget and hearth here with res sickness

o no

>>160916932
Warlocks are outperforming mages though.

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>>160912149

it would be okay if i didn't only get fucking hov keys

>7 hov into 9 maw into 12 hov

thanks blizz

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I hope Nomi likes eggs because that's all he's going to get for the next month

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Name 1 (one) reason why I should stay unholy
The ptr "buffs" didn't solve the specs problems

>>160912149
Util 2nd week of EN i was really enjoying.
After that the "same thing" effect started to weight on my shoulders.
The char development is too fast and it's not alt friendly.
Since BC every exp is the same shit. Very fun on the honey moon period, but it get old fast. After all, it's the whole server in a small area, 7-8 maps. Doesn't even come close to the amount of things (maps) you had to do in vanilla.

Waiting on nost launch.

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>>160917084
you shouldn't

How do I resist the urge to level another class even though I despise the leveling experience entirely and don't want to do suramar a 3rd time? I started with what is now an 830 rogue and moved onto an 841 paladin because I wanted variety. Priests and Death Knights look cool aesthetics wise but I'll probably quit the game if I have to start Legion shit over again.

>>160916756
What shoulders are those?

>>160917171
oh and, at july i bought 6 months so, we'll be around util it expires

If i merge two B.net accounts, will the newer WoW account have all the toys/mounts/pets of the old one? Or will it still count them as different accounts entirely?

>>160917002
On dummies.
Also, pre-7.1.5
They're also unfun, clunky and have effectively no utility or QoL.

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>>160917074

How do i make a macro to let my pet attack my current target after i've summoned it?

>>160917321
WoW accounts share achievements, toys, heirlooms and other collectible shit under the same bnet account.

>tfw you're really enjoying legion but everyone around you hates it and all friends are quitting

B-back to LoL and DotA we go I guess

>>160917430
I knew that, but if i merge two Bnet accounts, do WoW accounts get merged too, alias i can have all those toys/cheevos etc on both accounts?

>>160917084
Artifact power feels good and popping feels nice

>>160917208
midnight heralds pauldrons, From Xavius, LFR for that colourway

>>160917342
The ignorance is astounding.

>>160917342
No, on logs.
>Brez, raid portal, and health stones aren't utility

K

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Should I switch my loot spec to Arcane if I already have fire head + bracers?

>>160917598
Go play hots instead. It's a better version of lol for casual games. If you want competition then go for dota

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now i just gotta farm 100 dungeons

i would kill myself but im already dead hehe xd

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>>160917685
Healthstones are just shitty health potions.
You forgot felguards, an aoe stun, self portal, tankiest dps in the game by far, and summon stone.
>there are people who play warlock that don't keep threatening presence active at all times

>>160917681
>>160917685
Perhaps I am wrong on damage.

They're still a clunky mess mechanically.
And no, Soulstones aren't utility as they're a sucky health potion that shares the same cooldown.
Portal isn't a full utility, since you need other people to do it and we have Meeting Stones.
Brez is useful, I'll admit. I had forgotten about that. Though not forgotten through lack of use

>>160917598
>muh friends

Ever thought that you should play what YOU enjoy and not what your faggot ``````````````friends´´´´´´´´ do?

Jesus Christ people, were you afraid to go to the toilet alone too?

>>160917829
Raid portal, I.e demonic portal. Full raid movement utility that was extremely helpful in fights like spider.

It's alright though, everyone knows you're talking out your ass

>>160917829
They also have that portal anyone can use to jump like 30 yards

>>160917827
why do people keep posting this ruskie cat

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>>160917948
it's a cute kot

>>160917829
They are only a clunky mess if you played them at ilvl 706 then complained about how that was how the spec was supposed to feel the whole expansion like a fucking retard when haste is above int for both the real warlock specs.

>>160917897
>>160917895
On a long cooldown and doesn't place well on lumpy terrain.


Although, I'll admit itwas stupid to mix up summon portal and jumping portal.


They're still worse mages, and a mess.

>>160917993
Really [Demonic Empowerment]? [Demonic Empowerment] Does [Demonic Empowerment] Haste [Demonic Empowerment] really [Demonic Empowerment] fix [Demonic Empowerment] the [Demonic Empowerment] issues [Demonic Empowerment] that [Demonic Empowerment] make [Demonic Empowerment] it [Demonic Empowerment] a [Demonic Empowerment] chore [Demonic Empowerment] to [Demonic Empowerment] play [Demonic Empowerment] ?

>>160916932
I'm not the most knowledgeable on this matter, but hasn't Spriest been pretty high up lately?

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>>160918006
>invaluable on helya, illganoth, renferal
>it's shit because sometimes you have to work a little to cast it
Why do you work so hard to defend your wrong opinion.

>>160918138
Ayup.
Although you're stuck with S2M for those numbers.

>>160918142
Reduce the time when you are unable to use it, and I'll be happy. Even if it's a Talent and only a reduced time for the Warlock using it.

2minutes is far too long for a one way trip on a class with no other mobility.

>>160918138
Spriest is garbage in dungeons and solo.
I wouldn't really recommend leveling one.

>all this shitposting about dps

What's the build for healer priests? Holy or Disc?

>>160918276
>what is demonic circle

>Nobody taking Ancestral Swiftness
>Everybody taking Frostbrand
>Blizzard nerfs Ancestral and buffs Frostbrand

Is this the most inept company ever?

>>160918138
>>160918207here, I'm seconding
Absolutely horrendous for levelling and all solo play.
Not fun in dungeons either.

>>160918348
>A Talent

>>160918281
Feral or spriest?

>>160918478
Feral can at least go invisible and has a speed boost.

>>160918276
And dk should fight on his mount.

>>160918006
>O-okay they have utility I forgot about
>A-alright and they so more damage
>But they're still 'shitty mages'!!!

Oh no you poor thing, a little clunky? Cry me a river

>>160918350
>fire mages sorta good
>not braindead ones can do some damage and place top 20% probably
>ice not really comparable to fire in more than most scenarios
>arcane literally ???
>blizzard nerfs entire class by making them fucking awful in movement fights

it might be.

>>160917978
it is not

>>160918551
They can.
Albeit in a very limited capacity.
And I would love that.

>>160918553
I mucked up on soulstones and got the portals mixed up.
Affliction is very very niche and there's no excuse for how bad Demonic Empowerment is.
I wil admit I'm biased against Destro; I hate the RNG on RNG on RNG on RNG.

>>160918350
>only buffs to survival have been focused on mok'nathal tactics in a desperate attampt to make raptor strike useful
>they are both still garbage

>>160918753
empowerment is fine and you're a faggot

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>>160918108
>BOO HOO HOO I HAVE TO CAST FIREBALL MORE THAN ONCE PER FIGHT AS A FIRE MAGE
>BOO HOO HOO I HAVE TO CAST FOCUSED RAGE MORE THAN ONCE PER FIGHT AS AN ARMS WARRIOR
>BOO HOO HOO I HAVE TO CAST DEMONIC EMPOWERMENT MORE THAN ONCE PER FIGHT AS A DEMO WARLOCK

>>160918753
Affliction is top 10 / 5 dps in almost every fight released so far.

>>160918857
>>160918991
Aaannnnnd we're done.

We will not come to an agreement on this.

Enjoy Warlock, I've given up on it.

Which is a pity as I can't find anything that compares to the fun I had with my Warlock pre-Legion.

>join AOTC only 860+ EN H Xavius group
>healer dies on pull
>someone lusts on pull (healer dies with lust up)
>multiple DPS die from horror AOE
>a couple more healers die
>someone asks why more people aren't DPSing the add when Xavius is at 70% HP
>we wipe
>compare achieves, at least 5 people don't have AOTC
>lead relists group 'AOTC ONLY!!!'
>leave

That's my blog for the day.

Honestly pugging this shit boss gets harder every week because retards think that because they overgear it they can ignore mechanics.

there is no class that is complete garbage so just play what you want.

Except outlaw, fucking retarded rng fiesta.

>>160919189
>complains outlaw is rng clownfest
>ignoring unholy

>>160919065
affliction is really good at doing damage to things that don't matter

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How do I loot this without my guild bullying me?

>>160919430
do it when no one is online

>>160916367

Complete a +10 or higher mythic within the timer at the appropriate gear level ~880 and then report back to us, champ..

Hell even fucking vengeance is better at +10s and they are terrible

>>160919401
If we're comparing to mages, fire does that regardless of if you want to or not, and has aoe baked into its core single target rotation

>>160919264
What rng unholy has? Spores? They didn't feel to as disgusting as dice procs, saber procs and pistol procs.

>would like to have an alt, prot paladin or something
>realize i'd have to do all the class hall staff and suramar shit again
>ak research
>stick to just afking in dalaran in between mythics

What is the appropriate stat priority for blood death knight?

Also, what are the best trinkets? Right now I use ravaged seed pod and unbridled fury off ursoc. Is this okay? I prioritize haste/crit

Also, is blood worms talent shit even with 30 percent haste and 30 percent critical? 40 percent haste with bone shield.

Also, what is considered high for tank dps? I usually float around 160k dps.

>>160919624
Runic corruption. Scourge of the world. Army pet debuff. Festering stacks

>>160919430
>Bullying someone for one of the best leggos in 7.1.5

>>160919835
And shambling horror i guess

I just made a tauren pally, what's the best spec?

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>>160916367
>I tank Mythic 4-5 Dungeons regularly

you dumb shitter, a fucking frost DK can tank mythic 4-5's

try doing high level ones and then come back and tell us blood dks are fine

>>160920050
They're all great

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>>160912149
>three chars 880 and i like them all
>solid guild that cleared mythic before the next content comes out i mean i'm sure we can take out helya in two months
>some friends quit already but made some new friends at the same time
>that one torrent that's stalled for 3 months finally gets seeded
it's a pretty nice meme

>>160912149
im really liking it but my class is getting assblasted

was thinking about levelling a healer when I get this little panda to 110. Maybe a tauren priest or druid depending on which is the better healer, though I'm almost sure it's how it used to be, druids are better raid healers and priests are better main healers

>>160920369
Priests are actually pretty weak this expac.

>>160920438
>2/5 of the healer specs in game are weak
WTF

>>160920369
Holy sucks, disc is extremely fun but it sucks. Shadow is about to be returned to the gutter. Do yourself a favor and don't roll priest

>>160920464
They're viable, its just the other healers bring more to the table

Has any MAJOR lore character died of old age instead of being killed?

>>160919835
Those never felt to me as a necessity.
Scouge procs? Spam SC.
RC procs? Get yourself extra runes.
Army is 10 fucking minutes cd, i don't count it as "uh didn't get proc gg might as well afk untill next pull" its not that important
Shambler? well outlaws have such proc too, but forgot the name.

WHile playing unholy i had moments of doing nothing but mostly i was busy stacking spores and popping them and doing stuff, with outlaw though...
Roll dice, got 1? or 2 low tier ones? Hah, loser, reroll.
Got the same one? hahaha reroll. You can't do anything untill you get at least 2 with at least one of them being good.
Trying to stack CP to reroll? Too bad saber doesn't prock and you didn't rolled x2 CP buff.
It's been 30+ seconds? Well i guess you can waste your adrenalin+artifact for easy CP stacking and finally roll something good.
I heard you like procs, so i put a pistol proc into your saber prock so you can try to proc when you proc.
Artifact only procs on single target and rarely because lol fu.

You think im exaggerating and this rarely happens? Only if im unluckiest outlaw in this fucking game.

>>160920646
Alonsus Faol

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Hey lets put all the archaeology dig-sites in the elite invested zones with high spawn rates.

Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?

>>160920757
I think the significance of procs should be nerfed
Instead of "oh wow I got a shit proc, I keep getting shit procs, rip dps" as it is a with a few specs
Just make it so getting a proc is like a minor increase, like 5% more dps, instead of such a huge variance.

>>160920757
literally reason why I dont want to play outlaw.

I hope buffed SnD will BTFO roll the memes and I wont have to use them anymore

>>160920929
The new system is fucking garbage anyway.
I stopped bothering with checking what rare I was allowed to get that 14 days a long time ago.

>>160912149
I'm just realizing now that there is shit all to do in this game now.
Pvp is staler than ever and the classes are more pruned and conformed than ever.

Its just barely better than WoD.

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>>160920973
>your spells do up to 44% more damage

>>160914241
so if i just got prydaz (first lego, hooray for emissaries) should i just switch to blood dk?

>>160920994
>my rng so fucked that taking SND even before buff gives me 40k dps increase.

>>160921062
>log in
>do emissaries on my main and my one alt
>pug raid on my main, still dont have aotc because most of the pug raids suck
>don't get invited to ranked bgs on either of my chars ever
>solo q is miserable
>need to spend at least 30 minutes getting declined over and over again to join a m+ run
>end up logging off
Why am I still playing

>>160921131
I worded that wrong. Instead of you casting a spell and it does 100k damage, it does 105k damage, or something like that. Rather then you cast a spell and you do 200k damage instead of 600k damage.

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so what's the purpose of arcane barrage? Is it just to dump arcane charges 'cause you're running out of mana?

pls respond

>>160921238
No I mean that's literally what my mastery does.

>>160921269
it's for confusing dumb trannies

about to log in and get my chest
wish me luck guys

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>he doesn't play a Ret
>he plays another pleb classes that is getting nerfed in 7.1.5

>>160920505
>Priest and mage back in the gutter
>MM to follow
>Warlocks terrible
Why does blizzard hate ranged dps

>>160921210
Same thoughts for me man...
I have played constantly throughout wotlk until now, and even thru draenor I never have felt so out of place and not having fun.
Why did they have to fuck up the classes so bad?

Should I really just stop and play FFXIV instead? I really like the cross class stuff they have....

>>160921468
But what if fight lasts more than 1 minute?

>>160921468
why are paladin players always mean to priests

aren't they supposed to be basically the same except paladins are less focussed on being all worshippy and more on bashing stuff

>>160921546
start over

>>160921561
Priests=beta
Paladins=alpha

>have a question about druids
>pizzacat isn't in this itt right now

-_-

>>160921561
Priest peasants merely use the light.
PaLADins embody the light, they ARE the light

>>160921468
>Shaman at the bottom

yea right

>>160921783
join the steamgroup buddy

>>160921794
gey

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>only 880 item i have is wrists
>mythic 10 item from chest is 880 wrists

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Just got 110, lets fucking do this, niggers.

My 15th 110, I'm so drained.

Got my first leggo from World Boss today lads, Call of the Wild. Pretty fucking happy that it's my best legendary and not something shitty like Voodoo mask or Magnum Opus.

>>160921832
Link it lad.

>>160921924
holy fuck get laid

>>160921990

I've got a wife and 2 kids + a home run business, I stopped getting laid years ago mate, kids = no sex cause those wee cunts are everywhere.

>>160921924
>15
but y tho

Where can I find a reliable list of 7.1.5 changes without sitting thru some 14 minute video from autistic-wow-player #47,590?

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>Feral gets cool transformations
>Guardian gets cool transformations
>Balance gets nothing

Why the fuck can't my chicken get a cooler transformation?!

>join dungeon as a tank at last boss
>the 4 people there are arguing, one guy says the healer is shit
>healer says he doesn't heal Japanese and starts insulting them in Chinese

Oh my word I couldn't stop laughing