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Out of beta (?) edition

>What's new?
Two new heroes, Varian and Ragnaros announced at Blizzcon, along with a new brawl map and a couple of new skins.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20327398/new-things-announced-at-blizzcon-2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4900jOY8cCM

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked. It's not worth it.

>Where do I find you Vikings-as-first-pick-drafting faggots?
/join /vg/

>Current weekly brawl:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20374411/blackhearts-revenge

>Latest patch notes:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20352063/balance-patch-november-10-2016

>Official site, general news:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en
http://www.heroesnexus.com

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPk004vsjuE

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips

Drafted correctly: >>160638704
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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do her feet smell like flowers?

i think they do
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We need more healsluts desu.
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I'm ready.
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>>160789669
Anooooon, stop licking them!
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>>160789843
they're too perfect
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>>160789917
And the perfect way to start off a thread.
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havent played in 8 months

what are the meme heroes to stomp with? you may only reply if you have a high mmr/rank
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>>160790175
I'd recommend Mura for the job.
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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Whats up with all these lvl 15-35 shitters popping up in my quickmeme?
It's because im bad isn't it?
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someone add me and play 15 games with me so i can get genjis oni skin for overwatch
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>>160790369
>It's because im bad isn't it?
that and the storm of new players who want their genji skin
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>>160790401
ill add u if you agree to suck my dick
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>>160790513
whatever it takes daddy
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>>160790175
whats high rank
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>>160790369
not really. QM is super inflated mmr-wise for new players. Someone with decent MOBA experience could climb to diamond level mmr with 70-100 games with a pinch of luck. Even though they would know fuck all about mechanics or heroes.
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>>160789691
The game ended before the laning phase did.
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Nth for dropping the game due to Varian being hilariously broken in QP and making trying to learn the game impossible.

Really considering it. The game isn't fun anymore...
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Has anybody else been having loads of connection issues? I've seen 3 people go drop in and out of games almost all match.
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>>160793284
Yeah whenever I die it's because I have lag
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>>160793284
I had one game earlier today like that. It wasn't my internet, either. Had to have been a server issue.
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>>160792708
>qm
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>hotslogs forcing you to turn off adblock
oy vey
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>>160794153

>Can't do unranked due to not owning enough heroes

>Any assassin I pick that isn't Zeratul does 0 damage

>Healers are awful
>Tanks are pretty un-fun.

I'm just sad.
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>>160794989
>I'm just bad

fixd
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>>160794989
duo q is somewhere to start
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More like heroes of the Azeroth.
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Is it normal for Abathur players to AFK?
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>>160795791
i wonder if this game would've been marketed better if it was just warcraft like hearthstone
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>>160795838
literally every fucking game these shitters think it's some sort of joke to afk behind tower it's annoying af

clearly some meme that i don't understand. probably some cancerous youtuber "le ebin trole" encouraged them
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>>160795880
I'd love it. All WC3 heroes just brawling about. Would've done great even with just 20 heroes on launch. And Reddit could've convinced them to announced a whole blown Diablo expansion pack. And then Starcraft.

I really think they fucked it up.
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>>160789452
>new OP
Neat. Should've added stuff for the Nexus Challenge, however.
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Does he say it, does he yell ''BY FIRE BY PURGED?''
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>>160795881
What?
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Give me more Zul'jin info blizzard, I need to know if i can play my shapeshifting trollfu or if it will be generic ranged assassin axethrower man
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>>160797070
6 more weeks, this is pain.
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>>160797345

Please god let it be WoW Zul'jin with a decent kit. Generic Troll will be such a let down
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>>160797578
Why not both?
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>>160797070
Why the fuck would zuljin shapeshift? Hes not a druid.
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>>160797652

I highly doubt they could pull it off

>>160797949

Because the entire fight against him in WoW was centered around him shifting into 4 different animal phases?
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>>160798338
I feel they wont have that aspect for him.
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>>160798578

Yeah probably not. I just find it far more interesting a concept for this game rather than Ranged assassin: Axes edition
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>>160798738
All the models of him we've seen are his Warcraft II version

We'll be lucky if his WoW incarnation gets a reference as an ultimate
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well FUCK now i want a multiclass druid that can shapeshift into 3 different animals at 10

can they do that in warcraft lore
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>>160795058

Never said I wasn't.

Any tips?
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>>160792708
>Varian being hilariously broken in QP

He really isn't
Stop trying to duel him as melee if you don't have any burst.
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>>160799163
>not wanting diablo 2 druid
Enough from warcraft already REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>160800387
I hope he doesn't have too much shapeshifting bullshit. I want to cast shit too.
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>>160800387
>wanting worst D2 class
m8
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>>160801786
That's not the assassin, anon.
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looking for diamond and up players for team league - senjinn#1478
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>>160802651
Looking for someone to carry you, you little bitch? How about get out of silver and do it yourself you fat fuck.
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>>160801924
>implying
assassin can finish hell naked with them corpse explosions
druid needs tons of +skills to have a viable elemental build
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Okay, so what the fuck is this "You were dropped" shit? I didn't use to get this.

I had disconnects, but I didn't have to fucking exit HOTS before.
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>>160802774
i'm literally the best player on /hotsg/ lol
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>>160803186
wtf i hate both now. what about wizard?
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Is Diablo still shit, because I always loved playing that big lumbering retard
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>>160803662
You sure?
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I am trying to find a tank that I want to play; I like playing characters like brightwing, abathur, and the lost vikings. Which tank should I try?
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>>160805023
Muradin because he's good
Stitches because he's fun
Arthas because he's both
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>>160805023
Dehaka for global presence like abathur and BW, rexxar if you want to control more things at the same time like vikings
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Should I play or should I just fap?
The result will probably be the same regardelss
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>>160805937
both
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I really enjoy Dehaka, but his ultimates are godawful, especially with their lack of synergy with his kit.
Isolation is cool, but literally worse than Alarak's Q, a basic ability
Buffing the healing from adaption won't make it not shit, it still provides no utility or damage, and you can still be bursted down before the healing triggers
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>>160806452
Both at the same time to be specific. Got a mouse with side keys for this purpose.
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>>160805937

Fap to HotS rule 34 stuff while playing ranked.
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Oh my god, playing in a party is fucking heaven. I got friended by a random fucking peruvian and played with him and it was still INFINITELY better than solo queue. What the fuck was I thinking.

I loved it.
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how do i get thicker skin i'm so insecure, i love this game a lot but 50% of the time i do straight horrible or i do good and then lag makes me do horrible

and at first i'm not too hurt about it and try to make the best of what i've got then people say "Lol this X" as if i'm not on their fucking team and call me bad and then at that point i lose all motivation to play

i could mute but at that point the damage has been done
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>>160809040
Maybe you could try maining a character for a while, just playing what you love playing or what you're simply best at. That way you could improve your basic mechanics and knowledge, and less people would be whining about it.
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>You died 0 times while the average player dies 2.8 times
>Raynor HL

what? Is that why he is not picked anymore?
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is overwatch blizzards new ded game?
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>>160810171
>HOTS has nearly as many viewers as Dota 2

wtf when was it going as strongly as Dota

that's because of the stupid Genji skin promo thing right?
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>>160810275
yeah, it usually has like 5k or something
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>>160806898
>and you can still be bursted down before the healing triggers

If only you had a stasis like ability that allows you to still get your heals off

Isolation is still pretty good versus casters in general because of the vision component alone, it's just hard to pull off a nice one in a classic teamfight

Look up astral authority games : they have a pretty decent dehaka that played some at blizzcon recently
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This is why I love Xul on Tomb
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>>160810171
People stopped watching IW after they realized it was shit when they got to play it this weekend
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how do I git gud with Leroic?
I normally play Malfruion,Guldank,Greymane that this is so weird too me but I just bought him and I think I'm in love.
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baby murlocs......... quaint.......... but useful.......................
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>>160809040
You just gotta learn to relax and take things as they come. It's a lot harder to do than it sounds, but every time you find yourself getting anxious or angry, just take a deep breath and refocus. Take a break for a few minutes if you go through a particularly rough game or a few losses in a row.
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I stopped playing WoW after Burning Crusade, who is this Varian cucklord and why does he have mega-weaboo hair?
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>being this dedicated to your hots waifu
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>queue up with random guy from friends list
>yells at team for no good reason all match
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>>160813404
hot damn
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>>160813320
Gladiators, man.
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>>160813553
>is the worst player of the bunch and the reason we're losing
>turns out he's hotslogs silver
always happens to me
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>>160797070
If Undercoveranon is to be believed...

He will be based on the WC2 Axe Thrower unit, as he originally was. He won't be based on his WoW self.

He will be able to throw a net on people for CC, will have the ability to inflict Vulnerable upon himself in exchange for significant damage increase, and he will have very exceptional health regen (Troll Regeneration) to help offset the fact that he's essentially a berserker who harms himself to be more aggressive. (Vulnerability and whatnot.)
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>>160796607
Yes he does.
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>>160814962
I think that info leaked prior to Blizzcon so it might be outdated already, and we wont know for sure until like next year. It's tearing me apart.
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>>160810171
overwatch is literally shit LITERALLY

Its literally spam hallways, charge ult repeat
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Who has a bigger dick?
Tychus, Raynor or varian?
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>>160818990
Tychus, but they're all ungodly huge.
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>>160819130
but raynor was cucked by literal slugs
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I thought the time that it would force a match on TL was past 1100 seconds.

We just had one up to 1134 before someone reset the queue
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>lose games while consistenly doing the dps and not dying
>wonder what i have to do to counter the consistent theme of my varian being outvarianed by their varian, my chromie not being able to land a single r > w combo, my team having 0 map awareness at all times
>decide to pick muradin because maybe i can abuse op heroes to win
>sure enough it logs me a win
>nerf regen chen build but make muradin get a full hp bar in 30 seconds

I'll abuse it, but it is in no way balanced.
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Friendly reminder

Upcoming stuff:

Zul'jin
Valeera
Kel'thuzad

Icethrower Zul'jin
Mechalord Gazlowe
Lil' Deathwing Brightwing

Amani War Bear
Gyrocopter
Giant Toad

Reworked Haunted Mines
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>>160821948
>[Deleted]
the goyim know
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>>160821828
>all Warcraft

Sounds about right
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>>160822267
What was it?

I hope it was Jaina helping Anduin again.
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>>160822449
It was Lich Jaina being confirmed.
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>>160822538
Was she still helping Anduin?
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>>160822575
I hope so
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>>160821828
>Zul'jin
Nice.
>Valeera
Are you serious - where is Maiev
>Kel
Dope
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>>160789669
i like to think li li's bf will be that water dragon
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Anybody else excited for New Year's?

Even when it turns out the whole Superman thing is bullshit, I won't give up.
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>>160822918
This actually sounds good
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why can't i find deets on the upcoming weekly sale? usually they update it over the weekend.
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>>160823482
>deets
wow
kys yourself
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>>160822818
>Maiev
who?

Valeera is who people want. She's one of the main characters of Blizzard's most popular game ever and she still isn't in their hall-of-fame MOBA!
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>>160823482
-50% on
Tychus
Infested Tychus
Azmodan
Azmodunk
360-day stimpack
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>>160823482
there also should be the black friday sale later this week
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>>160823526

i don't need deets on that toxic 'tude of yours.
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>>160823647
Why do you think there are two legendary skinns on sale this week?
THIS >>160823595 is the only black friday sale we're getting this year.
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>>160823705
nah, hots had quite an influx of players lately, it would be REALLY stoopid to not going full goyim with the sales, imho
guess we will see
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>>160823897
there's also two new bundles
One of them is like 5 old heroes and 5 skins for them for $9.99
That sounds like something designed to take money from new players
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Just finished 10 placements. Got Plat 2 - how decent is that? Been away from HotS for a long long time.

I mostly spammed Lunara and Leoric - am I cancer?
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Azmodan insane on braxis yet no one picks him on it.
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>>160825230
>The exp contribution on that Kharazim
Ouch
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>>160825139
same here minus the heroes played
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>>160823537
>Valeera is who people want. She's one of the main characters of Blizzard's most popular game ever and she still isn't in their hall-of-fame MOBA!
This hurts me even through the sarcasm.
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>>160826267
uh it's their most important franchise's most important game...
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>>160825139
Silver and Gold is apparently the majority of players, so you're okay. Diamond 3-1 is the best you can place though, so taking that into consideration, you didn't do too bad.
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>>160826546
Went 7-3 so was unsure if there was a cap - makes sense though. Nice.
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Chillwind Yeti when?
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>>160826716
I'll put him on the iconic characters to-do list. Be patient!
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>>160827201

river crocolisk never EVER
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>>160825139
>Got Plat 2
Technically you're above average, I guess. Still have a long way to go, though.

>am I cancer?
imo the only time someone can be considered cancer is when they spam cheese strats like xul + hammer on bhb. Just specific heroes, no matter what they are, are fine 99% of the time.
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>>160827324
What's the cheese strat with those two?
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>>160827579
xul double soaks mid top while everyone else 4mans bot lane with hammer.
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>>160812203
Never fail to connect your handy hand and wait for buffs.
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>>160812203
>how do I git gud with Leroic?
Dont miss your Spooky Hand
Build full tank or full lifesteal
Pick Entomb 90% of the time
Dont miss your Spooky Hand
Be greedy with lifesteal
Use escape liberally
Dont miss your Spooky Hand
Entomb Assassins/high prior targets
Feel free to die if its worth it, your timer is short
Don't fucking miss your spooky hand.
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>>160818990
Sonya, Kerrigan tongue's close second.
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>>160812203

Because it's so important you don't miss your W, try to get in range and Q for the slow first. If 2 people are around you, try to position yourself in such a way that if you miss W on one person it might hit the other. It's so important W lands.

Entomb can be used in more ways than "This squishy needs to be trapped." It can block off entrances and stop tanks from getting to your teammates.
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Submitting for our next Never Ever edition.
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>>160828297
what is Nova
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>>160828297
>next
The previous one is enough never.
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>>160828434
could at least play the game
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>>160828527
I do.

Why would we need another sniper character except with an even more bland skillset?
I'm sorry your precious waifu isn't in the game, but it's for the best.
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>>160825139
dam shes hot
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Is rag fun?
I wanna play as my favorite boss
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>>160828716
Nobody's even been able to play him yet unless they went to blizzcon. And even then Blizzard admitted he was too strong at the event and that they were going to tone him down before he reached live.
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>>160828768
>too strong
>against bots
The only thing remotely OP about him is taking over an enemy inner fort and sieging the core, but after it expires he has no escapes.
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>>160812203
USE YOUR FUCKING B DON'T REVIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ENEMY TEAM!
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>>160828849
Blizzcon was people v people at the stations there. Maybe they had bots if there was an odd number of people in a game.

>The only thing remotely OP about him is

There is LITERALLY no way for us to tell how strong or weak he's going to be until we can play him in something resembling a real environment. A hero could have the most boring kit in the world and still be OP if the ranges, cooldowns, talents, and numbers were right. Blizzard's opinion was probably based heavily on their own internal testing and the blizzcon build was slightly outdated compared to their internal build.

We just gotta wait and see.
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>>160829070
Maybe I'm not well informed, but I remember watching some faggot's stream and the blizzcon client was literally a single button which starts a 1+4 bots v 5 bots game with Rag.
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>>160829302
I seem to remember some people talking about playing with other players at blizzcon, but both definitely could have been an option.

Now that I think about it, I think it's almost certain that the blizzcon build was just a couple weeks behind their internal build, and their internal build already had rag nerfed. Even if players were playing against other players at blizzcon, I find it hard to believe blizzard would take such a small sample size in such a small stretch of time with that much seriousness, and NOT have picked up on that same general data in their own internal testing.
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>>160810587
Thanks, this actually did help me
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How do I Xul?
In what comp can I take him?
What should he be doing?

Feels like he shits on waves but sucks cocks in team fights.
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>team???
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>>160831562
Just play QM until you get used to him, my first games were tragic as well.
He's pretty good, generally, has the richest kit in the game.
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>>160831562
>How do I Xul?
With how flexible he is, builds depend on the enemy team. You can effectively spec him to handle whatever is thrown at you.

>In what comp can I take him?
Again, with how flexible he is, you can build him around any comp

>What should he be doing?
Pushing his massive boner as deep into the enemy keeps as he can until teamfights come around, then it depends on the enemy. Generally speaking, it's best to play him as ranged poke until someone dives into your team. The slow on his scythe is great, and the attack speed debuff on his melee ability is fantastic against shit like Illidan and the Butcher. Always take Vulnerability for his bone prison and mana restoration from raising skeletons. Both his ults are good, but again depends on team comps. At level 20, either take Bone Spear unless they have a good healer, in which case you want Mortal Wounds.
Skeleton Mages are great to plop down in the middle of a bunch of ranged dudes, or as an escape from melee dudes. Poison Nova also does some fairly decent damage, but should only be taken when you have some of your own melee dudes on your team to back you up.
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>>160828297
and why would i want her?
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>>160831949
>>160832640

thanks guys.
will play him a few more times in quick match to get a feeling for him before trying to fit him into drafts.
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>>160828634
where'd her gigantic ass go?
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>>160821828
I'm hype for Deathwing Brightwing.

That shit needed to happen like a year ago.
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>>160831562
>how
You run up to the wave and w it while throwing a q in.
In teamfights you try to e a backline and then q it or alternatively you w their divers.
>comp
More map than comp-dependant. You want him when your team needs waveclear/the enemy team doesn't have good waveclear.
>what
You pick him on Tomb or BhB/Infernal Shrines to soak multiple lanes quickly and apply more pressure with skellingtons.
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When are they going to add Fenix?
Either as a more damage oriented artanis or as Fenix Dragoon, I NEED MORE STARCRAFT.
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>>160834458
i'd love a high dmg, slow attacking dragoon hero
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>>160834458
Fuck identical protoss.
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>>160834887
Then add a Terran science vessel
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>>160828849
His one heroic that sends lava down a lane does like 1k dps at low levels. But apparently it's easy to dodge.
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>>160789669
I really dislike most of the skins in the game, that being said I have the lunar Hearthstone card back mount, and I really like Li-Li's dress skin. Someone talk me out of i before I make a bad decision.
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>>160835056
Better
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>>160835296
Skins are fun. I'd wait for Friday though, who knows?

It is a great skin. The paper dragons are sick.
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>>160835248
to minions
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>>160821828

Original sauce? Missed the last few threads.
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>>160821828
>all warcraft
Yeah fuck you too
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>>160835685
Some guy predicted blizzcon reveals a bit before the reveal and this lines up with them.
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>>160821828
>Lil' Deathwing
I'd fuckin buy it.
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>people complaining when you play bruiser/assassin Kharazim until level 16
>because they think there is literally any other way to play him with how they gutted his healing path in this patch
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>>160835802
I wouldn't spread that bullshit. This particular post should be taken with a grain of salt. I could be wrong, but I'm in denial about Valeera.
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>play Zagara on qm
>varian tries to duel me
>gets completely shit on
Zag is fun.
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>>160835802
this was all that was leaked though, why you making shit up?
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>>160836423
Varian gets shit on by Zagara? What?

That's kind of lewd.
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>>160836503
Why can't you read?
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>>160836423
was it arms or prot?
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>>160836663
When the fuck were the following leaked?
>Lil' Deathwing Brightwing
>Icethrower Zul'jin
>Giant Toad
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>>160836830
Never said I believed the leak, but the Zul'jin and Valeera parts do match, and the guy asked for source.
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I'm so fucking done with this game this week. Samuro on free2play is just going to be fucking painful with everyone thinking they're gonna be cheeky sneaky fucks, only to fuck their team in team fights because they don't want to actually stick in an engagement that would've been won if this faggot would actually just not run away every single time he takes one hit from anything.
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Is the murlock meant to be a joke character? Played against one and the only thing he accomplished was getting 1 shot 20+ times
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Anybody know if playing with low-mmr people (bronze-plat, while you're diamond+) in Team League affects your placements in terms of mmr gains and losses?
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>>160805295
>>160806898
Can dehaka main tank? I hear people say he is more of a specialist who off tanks.
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>log in into hots
>quest is "win 3 games"
>yesterday couldn't win one single fucking game in QM
>even lost my win streak on tomb of the spider
Oh boy I'm in for a good day
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>>160837250

His entire role is to be an annoying little shit. His character trait is that he can put down eggs and respawn a lot faster than anybody else, while placing his puff-fish explosives on walls and such that do seriously heavy damage. Along with one of the best ults in the game, if used well with teamwork. Stunning someone for 3 full seconds is a lot of punishment to happen, or a lot of work that an Illidan/Tracer could be doing but is entirely nullified.
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How do you get gud at Jaina? She seems so much harder to play than li-ming, kt or gul'dan who you can just blow up everyone with. Jaina just seems bad with her long cds and way easy to kill
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>>160838389

And by Gul'dan you mean Chromie, right? Chromie blows people up like KT and Li-Ming, Gul'dan is sustained damage over time.
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>>160838389
1. Hit your goddamn rings, be patient.
2. Use cds wisely, don't overvalue frostbolt, but don't undervalue blizzard.
3. Positioning.
4. Map awareness.
5. Don't die.
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>>160838389
jaina's value is is pretty much dependent solely on hitting her ring of frost outside of that she is pretty bad
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>people defending abathurs on qm with a 13% heal
>meanwhile I as zagara did 45% of siege damage and contributed the most exp out of everyone and spent most of my time in lane doing 1v3 because everyone was busy dicking around the map
Fucking niggers
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>>160839260
Btw, which part of the ring needs to land? the center or the edge of the circle?
Never played jaina so i have no idea how it works
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>>160839525
The... ring.
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Hearthstone map when?
>haunted mines type map
>15 or so mana crystals spawn
>at the end of collection a minion of the mana cost your team collected spawns
>excess mana causes a spell to cast, 1 - holy smite, 2 - frostbolt and so on
>cores bm emote at each other

>>160838369
You forgot the part where he only gives a quarter of normal xp, so killing him is pretty much an inefficient waste of time
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>>160837816
He can't. The only viable solo tanks are muradin, etc and johanna at the moment
Among tanks he's also one of the most difficult to play well imho, hitting the q can be hard if enemies know how to position/counter and his survivability kit requires precise timing
>>
Had a Gazlowe duel last match. The other one joined in on my little dance while waiting for shrine to spawn. Love it when things like that happen in games.
>>
>tfw Tracer main
Will I ever swing a team battle?
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>>160837250
He was better before. He is a joke character, but he was intended to be worth playing.

He's still very good at annoying people and making them chase, but a lot of heroes destroy his puffer and burst him, so. And now Octograb is useless outside of 1v1.
>>
Just finished placements, ended up in gold 2. B-but it's matchmaking fault matching me with unskilled players, f-fuck you Blizzard
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>>160843557
If you've got a pocket tassadar sure
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>>160837250
He's only viable if a team is built around him. A good Murky can be fucking insane to deal with though. He requires premades. Killing him also accomplishes basically nothing as he respawns quickly and provides a quarter of the normal XP.
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>>160844072
Is that because of Tassadar's waveclear and AoE + his ability to escape? I'll try to get a buddy to pick him later and see if that helps her out. I feel like the only thing I can do as Tracer is just blink in and pick off wounded heroes that might normally escape, which I suppose is more than some heroes bring to the table in team fights.
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>>160844405
It's because he puts a big dick shield on you and you get heals when you do damage with the shield on you
Your survivability sky rockets and you can dive the backline a lot more comfortably
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>all warriors getting baseline damage reduction
>all heals getting nerfed
so we're gonna have triple warrior meta soon, right?
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>>160789452

FRIENDLY REMINDER:

Valeera will soon join the Nexus, there are some FACTS about her:

- she is a WOMAN.
- she is an elf.
- she mainly come because of HEARTHSTONE (RNG XD.)
- she is taking the rogue slot, THERE WONT BE ANOTHER ROGUE ON YEARS.
- she is easily the last of the 5 warcraft heroes on a row we'll have.
- She came (yeshh) before Maiev (never EVER.)
- she is fun and cute.

- YOU'll deal with all of this.

So yeah. In case your boipussy cannot deal with all these FACTS, there is an exercise that can help you. 3D print the model of WoW Ragnaros (because the hots one isn't super epikk) and slowly, but steadily, insert him in your boipuccy. Everytime you feel like not dealing with it, go 1cm further, sooner or later, daddy Ragnaros will make you cum like the little bitch you are and finally you'll deal with it. I promise.
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>>160844682
>So we're gonna have leoric meta soon, right?
I hope so
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>>160844731
Blood elves were made for sexing.
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>>160844682
I think they're only talking about the light warriors, not the tanks.
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This is nice and all but where are Stukov, Cyadea and Maiev?!
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>>160845049
Here I cooome

Brrupprrrtttrrbbrrrrttt
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>>160845049
>Cyadea
right after andariel please
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>>160844731
Should have been Ravenhold, or Garona as the rogue.
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>win a few games in a row
>get placed into a terrible stomp where the game ends in 10 minutes
>lose another game after that
>get placed with level 30s and stomp the enemy team

So, is this what forced 50 looks like?
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CHRIS SAUL
FUCK
ARAN
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>>160845856
Shit, I've always thought it was "Crystal, fuck ARAM"
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>>160844731

>implying they won't change it to Moroes to shill WoW's return to Karazhan
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>no naga
>no spider lady
>no maiev
how could they fuck up this game so badly?
>>
Do people in /vg/ actually first pick vikings? Or is that just a meme?
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>>160846597
I love the lack of Maiev myself.
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>play more zagara
>team losses their lane in less than 2 minutes
>Im pushing a valla and a hammer out of lane
>all of their team comes down to kill me
>my teammates don't push
>they go and contest the punisher
>get gangbanged by 3 ults
>samuro blocks himself from escaping
It was pretty hillarious honestly
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>>160836961
You're sitll not answering the question,

who leaked the skins?

The picture posted was the leak posted before Blizzcon that revealed the 4 heroes and some skins (that were announced)

But where are you getting those 2 skins and mount?
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>>160848243
Some other anon is adding them there.

Probably. Stop talking about them and lets see.
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Which team should win? Map is tomb of the spider queen.
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>>160848907
neither should win because both drafts are fucking horrible
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Why is tracer allowed?
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>>160848907
Who will win the silver trophy? Who will walk away... with bronze.
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How do I get better with deer friend?

I'm not used to playing squishies and I always feel like I will die if I even use leap ult, however it seems like most of her damage.

And when should I pick her in draft?
>>
I am looking through my winrates, and found that in unranked draft, my winrate with support is 75% but is sub 50% with every other class. Why is that?
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>>160849364
Cuz malf is op.
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>>160849540
Malf isn't my most played hero though.
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>>160849072
Whats wrong with both teams?
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>>160849591
That doesn't matter, Malf is usually pick or ban and leaves the other unlucky side a worse pick for a healer.
>>
Reminder to not answer questions like "Who leaked or said X" because that anon is probably the redditfag snitching this general
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>>160849749
As in, I almost never play malf compared to other healers because he is usually banned. He shouldn't be inflating my winrate that much
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>>160849752
Good tip desu. But stop giving the redditors attention.
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>play zagara and get paired with a deadbrain zarya
>did nothing of value during the whole match
>gets mvp but doesn't says why
??????????
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>>160849884
Not the point.
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>>160844731
I love me some great blood elf fapbait, but Valeera's design is just so fucking ridiculous.
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>>160849364
Well you're probably a good support
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>>160834458
Pure Dragoon, pls
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>>160850906
But, its not like I play bad assassins, tanks, or specialists, so I am not sure if its due to the characters.
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>>160850906
>>160851635
Oh, misread what you said.
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>>160847970

How do you actually fight people? Whenever I play her, I feel like if anyone even remotely sneers at me, I'm dead. Especially now during Samuro free-week.
>>
So no black Friday sale this year?
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>>160854542
You learn to keep your distance and bait them into your hydralist and worms range, also if you are up to the task you can use the vile drop quest and the serrated spine quest to increase your damage, but its mostly about positioning.
Also abuse your creep soil, it gives extra attack range and movement speed for you and everything your spaw.
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>>160854731
There is, but for some reason it hasn't taken yet today.
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>>160832640
i disagree with your build. sometimes vulnerability is useless because your team would kill that target anyways imo corpse explosion and skeleton mastery can be way better if you are allowed to soak the lanes and arent under a lot of pressure
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>>160857738
Corpse Explosion and Skeleton Mastery is also pretty good if you ARE under a lot of pressure.
When you're loosing heavily and you cant even soak safely, not even dare to actually push, you can pretty decently clear lanes by just sitting in lane on mount ready to escape and letting your skeletons do their job.
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>zeratul is fine
>he gets fucked with inside and out
>now a completely different playstyle
>"we wanted to change him without changing his playstyle"
Fucking blizzard.
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>>160821828
we just got samuro u expect me to believe we gona get another hero with stealth? or you expect me to believe we gona get a rogue without stealth
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>>160858813
What is illidan, the swift rapist
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>>160821828

>sap
>cheap shot
>garrote
>kidney shot
>gouge
>blind
>vanish

can't wait for more exciting warcraft characters
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>>160860651
Are you implying that isn't exciting?
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What's the best Tank build for Varian? I only intend to play tank if there's no other warrior on the team.
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>>160861151
Anything that isn't tank, manage your health recovery hits
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>>160861151
Fury is better at tanking that prot currently.
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>>160861058
I'm implying so much anon you don't even know
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>that one master skin you've had your eye on since the hero came out

What's her name lads?
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>>160862759
The one you posted.
I'm still about 2 million exp short, dunno why it takes me so long to lvl Xul.

>>160858787
His playstyle didn't change, it got accentuated more. Of course only if you used his proper playstyle, which is Follow through/vorpal/wormhole dance. But from your post I assume you're one of those shitters that just took every AA talent + Shadow Assault for the sick burst every 60 seconds, amshing all your active talents and an ult just to 1v1 trade
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Waifus WHEN
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When does the store update?
Wasn't the black friday sale supposed to have started today?
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>>160862759
looks like shit
the scythe isnt even sharp
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>>160848907
>misha solo frontline vs nova zeratul
uhhhh
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>>160864560
Best part is, he picked rexxar after our team picked both nova and zeratul. They also let us last pick malfurion. Needless to say, they lost pretty badly.
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>>160858787
Zera's exactly the same, if not insanely better. He gets his full build at 7 instead of 13 now.
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>>160802774
If you're not diamond/masters there's no need to respond dude.
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>>160802651
I'm sorry I keep missing your messages senjinpai. I really do want you to carry me out of my shit tl rank.
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>>160825230
>splitpushing on braxis

Unless you mean clearing the zerg and there are plenty of good options for that.
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Time for more bugposting :^)
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>>160862759
looks quite fuckin neato
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>>160847970
>play zagara
>sit in my cozy creep lane and never leave
>every few minutes the enemy laner leaves for some reason and I'm able to push their towers.
>my stupid team dies somewhere else on the map
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>>160850054
>Doesn't say why
The mvp formula is the same every time
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>>160857738
>Not going full scythe build except mayb big bone at lv20
Do you even 1second qs?
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>>160862759
lemming's, aleady got it on day 1
>>
bamp
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Need more warriors, how is the Crusader? Looks pretty fun but I'm the gold jew.
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>>160869153
JoJo's one of the best tanks in the game.
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>>160862759
Thrall. Yeah, yeah, but still. Uther has a fuckin' crazy one too. Nova's gets some points for creativity, not just 'let's add some spikes for no reason,' aka every diablo baddie.
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>>160869153
everytime i play her i feel fucking invincible, so great
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>>160869153

She's invincible, but don't expect to actually do damage.
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>>160869972
>>160869301
Bought, let's go lads
>>160870067
sounds like back when I tanked in WoW ayyy lmao
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>>160869153
God tier for tanking and being a fucking nuisance.
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>>160870267
You must've played wow a long time ago because tanks did solid amounts of damage in recent expansions.
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>>160869153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3kaYEceqGM
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>>160870580
Not the other guy, but I remember when Paladins were only good for being heal sluts or bubble hearthing.
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>>160870649
Christ that game was incredible. One of the few games I bought day one at a retailer back for my PS3.
>>
How good is Tyrael if you're not an Even in Death shitter who understands to pick him with other divers?
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>>160870815
I remember rumors back then. They said that if a Paladin equipped a grey weapon at a high level, they actually healed the mobs with their auto-attacks.
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>>160870913
You must be a stupid person
>>
>>160789452
What are the current limitations of hero league team ups?

I got into gold 1? or something like that and a friend is doing his placements. How far down/up can he be to allow us to team up together.
>>
What rank did you end up in after you finished placements /hotsg/ ?
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>>160874305
Imaginary
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when will Memeslug be great again?
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>minute 16
>our leoric has 12 deaths
>diamond 4
>this player is diamond 4 and has a lvl 12 Leoric
>game ends
>Leoric MVP
>COMBAT MEDIC, 26% of team fight damage healed
>we had a malfurion on the team
what
the
fuck
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>>160876050
There's a reason he's Diamond 4 and not Diamond 1 or Master.
>>
>>160876050
Are you dumb? A good Leoric knows he should die a lot so he can get the most value out of his trait
>>
I've finally solved my framerate problems by turning on the option that closes battle.net launcher when games start.

Why didn't you fags tell me about this fix.
>>
>>160878681
What kind of framerate problems were you having?
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>>160878681
because there are 1000 things that can affect your framerate in this game, so everyone has a different problem
>>
Hey guys, I'm new to this game and MOBAs altogether.

How do I get good?
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>>160878942
~30 fps with stuttering at lowest settings.

Now I can run ultra on above 100 fps.
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>>160880170
Play to learn and improve, and do it a lot.

Enable quickcast and adapt stutterstepping.
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>>160862759
by not picking gazlowe
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>>160880578
LOL
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>>160862759
tlv is the only master skin I'd get

So the enemy team knows just how fucked they are.
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>>160882135
Master TLV is actually really fucking good though. Coincidentally, I'd like to buy and git gud at TLV, what are your thoughts on him? Pros/cons, how to play etc?

I'd think you just want to soak and push mega hard all game. Hold down your 'camera on hero' button while cycling 1>2>3 every second or so--to constantly move and look at each Viking.
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>>160882135
tfw only played vs ai
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>>160798865

It's likely, the model they had for him was basic as fuck. They have had two years to felsh it out, and if other heroes are anything to judge off of, they like to mix universes to get some kind of happy-medium between the games, like Gul'dan.
>>
>>160883563
But why? Honestly.
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>>160884339
Not him but there's no pressure at all and you can just enjoy playing the characters.
I've had very bad experiences in other mobas and I just can't take it.
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Serious question:

Why does Hero League queue take so long?
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So I haven't really played in a couple months and I want to group up with some friends for the Overwatch Genji skin.
Anyone up to do some A.I. matches?
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>>160884505
T H I C C

>>160862759
Probably gunna get Varians next
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>>160884478
That's messed up, bro. And kind of sad.
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>>160884505
I want to impregnate those tits just like I want to impregnate auriel
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>>160886497
You too have a living armor fetish?
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>>160886580
I want a scarfjob and a hopejob as well
>>
>play valla
>win

at last i truly see
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the person with the slowest bars at the loading screen is the making it take forever for everyone right?
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>>160888271
Yup. Pretty noticeable difference.
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Who should i buy (who is the funnest):
Alarak
Zeratul
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>>160889373
Alarak. Zeratul will be nerfed like hell, Alarak will only receive buffs. Also he DESTROYS while Zeratul just tickles and runs.
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>It's another "Friendly Cho'gall feed the entire game and blames the team" episode
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>>160889802
Ragnaros PTR when?
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>>160889635
How do you Alarak?
I tried but felt useless, like a less effective kerrigan.
Not blaming the character, I'm sure it was because I'm bad at the game so I want to learn
>>
OK I absolutely suck at supporting... took me 11 losses to get that one
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>>160890982
I have no idea how you could ever do worse with Alarak compared to Kerrigan, he can basically single handedly demolish a ranged dps. Keep practising.
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>>160890982
Mostly try to combo the telekenisis to pull them to you and use his Q.

Also if you get rid of any Sadism you're dumb. Sadism makes the DPS go round.
>>
Trying Tassadar out in the shop led me to go "wtf this dude is lame as shit jesus this is boring how can anyone play him"

played him later, having way too much fun giving people stupidly fat shields, eating health with bzzzt fields and cockblocking people with trumpwalls

How does he fare competitively? Any tips?
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>>160893805
Unviable
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I'm trying sam now that he is free
is there a specific build? everything seemed pretty meh talent wise
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Which draft should win this match? The map is garden of terror.
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>>160895037

>healer and tanks vs no healer no tanks

hmmm
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>>160895037
>literal blizzcon lineup
vs
>below average qm
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>>160894838
pls respond
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>>160893235
Spending Sadism for the level 1 push distance is good though.
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>>160893235
>not taking applied force
>not taking the 13 slow on w if your team doesnt have a slow
>not taking the 13 talent which makes your silence longer from time to time
>not taking quick mind on 16
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>>160894838
>>160897410
Just check hotdogs, man.
>>
Someone play on my account for that Genji skin and I'll suck your dick. No homo though.
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>>160897410
use your brain tbqh. take what you feel like you need each game then adjust for synergy over time if you find something you think is better together after some experience.
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>>160898871
Only if you let me suck your dick in return.

No homo.
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>Play fist of the meme star monk
>Enemy has murky

It was like fishing with dynamite
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>Senjinn never never master ever
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>we will get W2's Zul'jin, not the WoW one
>not the one that got a trailer that gives me chills even to this day
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>Play QM
>Win
>Play HL
>Lose

Now I know why they call it quick meme
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>tfw the best skin is on a hero that is detrimental to the team on a majority of maps

the pain
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>>160904027
You only say that because her default look is that of an insect.
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>>160902898
>dis.. was our land
>troll land
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>>160904187

No, man.
The abs.
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>>160904360
Yeah, just like Sonya's non-existent abs
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>>160904027

>playing Zagara with Samuro on free week and Illidan being as popular as he is

why
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>>160904027
I love this 'Zagara is bad' meme. Just love it. Just one of a handful underrated heroes.
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>>160904957

No, she's not bad. She can be amazing. It's just that she is incredibly easily countered by putting one consistent DPS on her, since she has zero escapes. Unless she has Nydus, but even then, in most cases she's not going to have a chance to get away.
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>>160905290
Haven't seen a zag in my last 20 HL games, FeelsCancerMan.
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>>160905290
1. You can stay with teammates (!)
2. You don't always take Nydus.
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>>160905380

I know, but if they have someone like an Illidan or a Tracer, even using Devour isn't going to stop them. Hell, being in the middle of a team isn't going to stop them half the time.
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>>160821828
There will probably be heroes from other games between all those warcraft ones, just like in the last leak we got heroes no one was expecting
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Speaking of Zagara.

How does her Infest work? I never see the number increase on it, despite having something like 100k siege damage, I never see the percentage actually go up.
Do you need to disable it first for it to start racking up? Or what? I don't get it.
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Rehgar buffs fucking WHEN?

Don't be scared blizz, there's no way you can fuck up as bad as last time.
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I N S E C T
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Fuckin hell I want to stop buying some of these bundles, but as a new player they're just too enticing, the discounts are huge
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>>160908153
Does the bundle reduce its cost if you already have some of the heroes/skins?
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>>160908153

I know what you feel. I've bought all but the 35 dollaridoo bundle that's been on sale. Getting 5 or something heroes for less than the price of one, along with skins that cost just as much normally is insane.

>>160908210

Yes.
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>>160908210
Nope, which is partly what makes it a good deal for me. Heroes that otherwise cost 7k gold cost only a buck or two in bundles.
I have 15k gold right now but I'm unsure of when I'll actually have to spend it since these great bundles keep pouring in
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>>160908551

Well, you could always abuse Varian while the Fury bug is around for free elo.
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>>160908724
>Fury bug
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>>160908767

When hitting people, sometimes instead of getting his heroic strike gradually lowered in CD, it applies it to his charge instead. So sometimes you see Varians just chain charge people to death.
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>>160909349
time to play tonight
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>have a match full of cancer
>report buttons are all mysteriously gone
blizz is testing me
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does anyone know where lightknight69 is atm? in the few days that he streamed in late summer i became his fan. too bad he is banned everywhere and is inactive on youtube
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>want that Zerg portrait
>have to get Zagara and Memeslug to fucking 10

I'm sorry everyone that's like silver on the EU server.
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How the fuck do you effectively Tracer? It feels like you're so squishy prior to level 20 when you can actually use Recall like it's supposed to be used.
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https://twitter.com/proxywolf/status/801377630654054400
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>>160911242
who is this cock jock?
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>>160909556
what would you even report the other team for? stomping your shit?
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How the fuck do you deal with these invis heroes when you're someone who lacks AoE, or something like it? Because I'm getting tired of getting fucked in QM by Nova/Zeratul/Samuro, or all three at once.
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>>160911821
you git gud also pay attention in teamfights to spot the shimmer
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>>160911821
Ping danger on the position they will be in when your slow teammates finally react, then stay the fuck away from them?
There's few heroes who have neither skillshot nor reveal talent. If you play one of them in drafted modes, it's your fault.
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>>160911320
Soembie
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>>160904027
she really needs some changes. in the last 30 games i played with friends in QM and unranked for the challenge, i haven't seen a single zagara. 300 random heroes picked, 0 zagaras.
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>>160904027
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>>160913504
>shift her focus from being a solid AA hero to muh swamp
>introduce heroes who simply hard counter swamp
almost as bad as the li li change from cleanse on every potion to one time cleanse.
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>>160861675
>stunlocks you
notin personell kid
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i just had the biggest and best idea about a new hero

>THE DOCTOR IS IN

KRATINOV FUCKING WHEN?
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>>160914197
hahaha
no
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>>160914197
First we need more female elves.
Also more demonhunters.
I know the perfect candidate, this angry one from the superb highbudget blizzard cinematic, Harbingers!
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How about hogger?! I think he would be an awesome hero :p Blizz we need this right now
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who was the dude standing beside Sylvanas in UC in vanilla WoW? Get that guy.
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>>160915173
>: p
Jesus christ, get the fuck out of here.
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>>160915173
I want hogger just because we would get to see an HD model for a gnoll
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>>160906376
Bugged.
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THE NIGHT BECKONS

W H E N
H
E
N
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>>160911476
I've had 2 matches where it was obvious one enemy player was intentionally feeding, he was just walking up to the towers and dying.
Everyone on my team reported him
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So what's the point of reghar again ?
No damage no heals no mana can't even ancestral self
I don't get it
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>>160917090
How noble of you.
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>>160917135

If you pick Bloodlust, watch your Valla/Samuro go.
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>>160917135
he's still okay, people are talking as if he is some ultra garbage, but its just that the other 3 are better. he is quite ok. definitely better than the monks healing after rework.
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>>160908153
I can't get over the color tints on this skin. What's the purpose of the pink one? Why it couldnt've been actual purple with pale grey Arthas' face and white hair. As in, how he looks during his betrayal.
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>promotion game
>demotion game
>promotion game
>demotion game
I'm never going back to diamond, am I?
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>>160917415
>better than the monks healing after rework
>he literally got a buff to his healing
>he now also has earth ally which is game changing
how retarded can one /hotsg/ poster be?
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>>160917684
At least you've been there
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>level 10 zagara
fucking finally.
never have to touch this turd ever again.
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>>160917738
>all healing talents moved to endgame tiers
>no cleanse until 16
>even with cleanse at 16 he must put himself in harms way to cleanse, getting rooted in order to cleanse malfs root for instance

i can use earth ally while building for bruiser as well, its unimportant.
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>>160917874
>picking cleanse on kharazim
if you're in dire need of cleanse and picked kharazim, you're shit
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>>160917936
exactly, which brings you to my point :^)
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>game after game of feeding shitters
>9-13 to start the season
>already demoted to d4

Should I just uninstall now? No idea why I even came back.
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>>160918040
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Samuro op as fuck!

Atleast Illidan takes skill to play properly.
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>>160918358
its a cloaked hero.
watch as he gets nerfed until he is as shit as nova.
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>>160918519
Woah stop, there's limits to my errection as a KT/Jaina/Guldank player.
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>>160917962
>auriel is bad because she has no cleanse
>tyrande is bad because she has no cleanse
>kharazim is bad because his cleanse sucks
>tassadar is bad because he has no cleanse
no one has won a game without having cleanse, ever
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>>160919285
>mfw I don't pick cleanse because I can't use it
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Where can I learn about team comps?
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>>160919398
nobody can use it but its a get out of jail card on paper.
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>>160919441
http://www.hotslogs.com/Sitewide/TeamCompositions
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>>160919462
maybe if you could use it on you'reself
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>>160919285
in my league stunlocking is a big problem
especially since varian came out, considering he can stunlock a target for several seconds

im sure that in gold, for instance, muradins just throw their Q out randomly and recieve no followup. in my games, people generally wait for tanks to cc before they unload. cleanse wins games.

also
>auriel has crystal
>you dont pick tyrande to heal
>kharazim IS a worse healbot than rehgar, which was my original statement
>tassadar isnt a solo support

ftfy
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I feel like the nerf hammer will hit monk soon.

Wouldn't put it past them to have it so you can't palm yourself
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>>160920042
>hero is all about baiting and escaping death
>they make him unable to palm himself
sounds like blizzard balancing all right
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why do 4-stacks always blame the solo queue player when something goes South?

>kill Zagara
>take a fort
>ping retreat to def our keep because shaman is approaching it
>ping several times
>even post in chat "im gonna def keep be careful"
>they spend 3 minutes at keep gate and get killed
>"HUURRRRRR XUL SO BAD DURR"
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Hey guys, remember when everyone was screaming Illusion Master was gonna be OP as fuck and everyone would always go full illusion build with Samuro? Good times.
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>>160921239
They were right thou
Until it was nerfed
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>>160919652
They changed that because of shitters like you.
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>literally no reason whatsoever to play arms Varian

Red-pill me here. Why would anyone ever play that.
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>>160922494
iwtfkm
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>>160907173
No way, he was picked all the time in the tournaments and qualifiers going on. Especially the chinks love him.
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>Hey Guys, let's put the Blademaster from Warcraft 3 into HotS
>Awesome idea, we can easily transfer his abilities from WC3 into the game without making a lot of changes
>Great, let's design him after the most famous BM out of Warcraft, whom everyone should recognize from the campaign.
>???????

What the fuck Blizzard. Pic very much related.
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>>160922494
To have fun instagibbing squishies in unranked ofc. He can solokill pretty much any not-tank at 20
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>>160923898
bait post
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>>160923898

NOBODY FUCKING CARES ABOUT YOUR DORKY LORE.

ffs, warcraft fags are the WORST. We need more Starcraft/Diablo on this goddamn game.
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Is there a map specific absolutely must pick/ban list?
I got fucked by the xul+hammer combo on BB today and i'd like to avoid such blunders in the future
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>>160923898
>Grom
>baldennaster
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>>160924047

>THESE LOREFAGS SUCK
>MY LOREFAGGOTRY IS FINE

All lorefags need to die from literally every fucking vidya
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>>160923898
They didn't even do Jubeithos. Like what the fuck.
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holy shit is the thread alive for once?
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>>160924431
It's because of b8
Every time there is an obvious bait posted, the thread moves fast
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>>160924606
>>160924431
>no replies for half an hour

no
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>>160926441
>american concept of time
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>>160923898
they might aswell add a female goblin hero. that would be my instant main on whatever role shes assigned to
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>>160926772
Go play Chromie with le greenie skin?
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>>160926772
No need for one, your typical Gazlowe player is enough of a pussy to fill the femgob quota.
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Would you recommend an Altered bundle for a new player? I only have Tyrande from it, but already love her.
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Newfag here

I spent 4k gold on Tyrael, was that a good call or is he a waste of a spot? So far I've been starting off with the regen quest then getting the increased regen skill and overall just tried to play really persistently with that and his invincibility field. Should I be going that route?
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>play placements
>win 7 out of 10
>get placed gold
fucking gay, at least give me low plat
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>>160928243

Tyrael is a solid warrior, so, sure.
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>>160928243
Tyrael is not META ALWAYS PICK, but he's a pretty good pick for diving comps. Try to adjust your talents to the situation.
Follow Through if you feel your team is lacking damage, Angel's Grace for more diving power, Imposing Will to fuck with AA dependent heroes like Butcher, Varian etc., ALWAYS Holy Ground that shit is an ultimate for other heroes, learn to use it because holy fuck it's good unless you desperately need more damage and so on.

He's a pretty fun hero, just don't go nuts on your abilities since he's mana hungry, don't smite and shield nilly willy unless it's actually useful.
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>>160928229
All the heroes in it are mega-fun to play, but not really recomended for a new player. Then again, you might not be a shitter and the bundle is ridiculously cheap, so go for it.
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>>160928672
>follow through on tyrael
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How long does15 A.I. games take? I wanna unlock the skin for Genji in overwatch
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>>160929060
>diving comps
I've only played with genji groups thus far and just dove mid against bots, so that makes sense

should I be using judgement instead of sanctification?
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>>160929060
Not very long, like an hour and a half
If you're playing with a 5 stack and one of them knows what he's doing and has sylvanas then it'll take even less time, about an hour
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>>160929369
whoops, meant to quote >>160928672
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Who's a fun tank that is also a viable solo tank?
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>>160930191
all 3 of them
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>>160930191
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>>160928672
>follow through
>angel's grace

There is only one build, that being smite, reforging, reciprocate, imposing, holy ground.
Double judgment in quickmeme and sanct/shield everywhere else.
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>>160929369
Diving comp means you have a suicidal butcher and Illidan on your team that do NOT give a fuck whether you're ready to engage or not. Tyrael's good because he might just save them from being blown up, shielding them and increasing their speed with smite so their self-sustain kicks in more.

>>160930507
Sure, that's the best build. But when all you have is a scaredy cat Samuro that just split-"pushes" all day, a Prot Varian, Auriel as your support and a Tychus against a no Warrior all nuke team, you have to be fucking flexible, and that includes picking normally sub-optimal talents.

Though only in quickplay, if you have to pick this shit in draft, you've drafted very fucking wrong and deserve that loss.
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>>160930191

best one is WHO CARES GET LEORIC
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>>160930979
>Prot Varian
>with tyrael
>you have to be fucking flexible
no, you have to get fucking good and get out of silver
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>>160931326
Sorry, still doing placement matches, but I'll get back to this once I've landed D5 :)
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>>160931039
>viable solo tank
>viable
I'd get dehaka if I wanted an unviable solo tank.
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>>160931601

i said

WHO

CARES

GET

LEORIC

fucking dumbfuck
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>>160930979
mate follow through is a bad talent in basically every scenario
I'm pretty sure it doesn't even provide more single target damage compared to reciprocate
Not to mention that with the latter you'll gain a wave clear component and more team fight damage overall

I like the idea of
>every talent is a valid choice based on the situation
but that's just naive thinking
Half of Tyr talents just suck
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My brain hurts.

I stopped playing this game pratically daily right when Tracer came out and only recently started playing again. I made a comment in the chat after noticing that KERRIGAN of all heroes got a legendary and I got laughed at for saying how from what I remember, Kerrigan is an aging relic from an ancient meta and is outclassed by over half the roster.

I was also told that GAZLOWE, the laughing stock of heroes, is now....good? Did I enter bizzaro world?
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>>160932065
No. Gazlowe genuinely is good at bronze rank.
Kerrigan's also fantastic on the right maps, and a very fucking solid diver in the right hands.
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>>160932065
Meta changes, balance patches happen, why does this surprise you?
Kerrigan has been incredibly broken for a couple of weeks back in summer, now she's just good. Same could be said about zagara. Tychus used to be shit, now he's a decent pick because of the meta. Rehgar used to be the best healer and now he's shit, and I could go on.
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>>160932934
>Rehgar is shit
No, that's Uther.
Rehgar is just subpar.
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>>160933284
It's pretty hard to tell the difference when there are 8 healers and only one of them happens to be worse than him, and the gap between him and the good ones is still large
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Shitter here, tell me how to deal with Samuro and Tank Girl pls
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>>160931682
I care, Leoric is fucking dumb, shitters ruining my quickmeme.
>lol it doesnt really matter if I die cuz of my trait haha stop raging man its just a game :p
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>>160934031
What's tank girl? Johanna?
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>>160934031
>Samuro
AoE, then hit the one that took the most damage
Also blinds to cuck him hard

>Hammer
Dive the cunt. Or counterpick her with Chromie/Li Ming, she'll collect every skillshot.
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>>160934503
>ruining my quickmeme
Sorry, but that's what quickmeme is for. Learning and goofing off.
Go unranked if it bothers you that much.
Also, stop raging man it IS just a game. A free-to-play deader-than-dead game. Just be grateful Overwatch players are gracing us with their presence, you're gonna miss them when the promotion ends :)
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>>160934576
>most damage
???
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>>160934741
Ooops, the other way around. The least amount of damage.

His clones have less health. The same attack will deal "more" damage to a clone's healthbar. Pay attention and get on the one that's not made of paper.
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>>160934713
>you're gonna miss them when the promotion ends
you are probably the only person that ever said this, and i doubt even you mean it unironically.
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>>160934856
I assure you I am most serious. You'll never get that fast queues in vs AI and QM. It is a blessing like no other, except for the 1 year stimpack sale. I would rank that above it, you just get so much value out of it AND you can support blizz. Two in one, sooo good.
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>>160932845
>Gazlowe genuinely is good at bronze rank.

So he's still dumpster-tier then?

>>160932934
It doesn't surprise me. I'm well aware of the shift in meta. What surprises me is that Kerrigan and Gazlowe, both of whom have uderwhelming kits can become decent with anything less than an entire kit re-work.
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>placed gold after 7 wins
>guess i will have to climb for anything worthwhile
>check rewards
>literally nothing worth anything below plat
thanks blizz for giving me rock on a stick
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>>160932065

Times change
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>>160935034
>vs AI and QM
>I am most serious
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>>160934713
fuck off back to OW shitter
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>>160935653
No need to be jealous, once you get a job you can afford the game too. It's even on sale! With a free HotS Tracer on top of it!
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>>160935831
i have ow since launch and i didn't get Tracer, what kind of jewishness is it
>>
>>160935831
(You)
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>>160936024
Preorder or special edition only.
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>>160936024
Did you buy the Overwatch: Originsâ„¢ Edition?
That's the bundle you need.
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>>160935368
>tfw no Garrosh
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>>160938496
>wanting a literal hitler/drumpf/putin mixture in your cute hero brawler

Why?
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>>160938698
'drumpf' is overdoing it

try 'trump' next time and you might get more replies
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>>160938496
And thank god for that. The only Hellscream that should be added to this game is Grom, but only after we get Mal'Ganis/Tichondrius and Magtheridon/Mannoroth.
And those only after we get Valeera/Vanessa/Edwin.
And that only after we get our already confirmed Zul'jin.

And maybe after all that, they'll release the big KT alongside a teaser for Maiev.
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>>160939016
>a teaser for Maiev
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>>160935035
Anybody can be good with a few numbers changed. And I don't think their kits are lacklustre. Kerris ults are bad and boring but her combo is the strongest in the game if you can pull it off.
>>
>samuro doesn't have long queue times
>enemy team only picking him half the time

did people forget how ridiculous this guy is or they just bored of abusing him?
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>>160940747
he's really not broken any more, just completely fun sucking
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>>160934713
>you're gonna miss them
Are you memeing me?
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>>160940747
Samuro isn't as bullshit as before but when hes on any team the game just stops being fun.
I partially blame his shadows, they shouldn't do damage without a talent, kinda like nova decoy.
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>>160920587
because they can't openly blame eachother. When you're all friends, it's easy to push blame on to the one person you don't know, also friends can fall out and no one wants to push eachother and risk not being friends over a game.

tl:dr soloq guy is an easy target.
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>>160940747
I see him every game. Free week and all that.
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i wonder if any of these bundles are decent. get a small pack of heroes for 5 bucks or two more for 20 bucks. big price difference
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>>160942127
I'm about to buy them all, and I don't usually spend a lot of money for shit like this.
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>>160942127

Difference is legendary skins.
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God I love Zarya more in hots than I do overwatch, also her two skins in hots are better than all her overwatch ones combined. I hope they put thunderguard into overwatch for christmas, but I doubt that'll happen cos of summer games. Also how viable is zarya generally? I only really play quickmeme and vs ai cos newb shitter.
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>>160789725
Where's the Lucio healing fuccboi?
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>>160942127
Definitely get the $5 bundle and the $10 bundle. There's also the $20 bundle with only heroes, which makes each hero cost from $7,49 to $2 each, if you just want to go all in.
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>>160849353
Only take Leap if you're in a match where you feel you will be hunting/ganking/fighting 1v1's.

Take Vines in every other situation. They help to keep your poison up + proc your 'W' so you can get your increased attack range (almost always take that talent)

Teamfights bounce around in the back - go in and out due to your speed. Git Gud at stutter-stepping.

Pick her when the other team has no rushdown (Butcher is your fucking Nemesis. Counters you in almost every single way)
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WE NEED MORE SLUT HEROES
FUCKING BLIZZARD DOESN'T REALIZE THAT WAIFUS BRING SALES
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>>160945639
I doubt they make much money from heroes, it's so fucking easy to get gold now.
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>>160945639
Where my animal/beast babes at? Or hunks.

>>160946090
I don't think gold gain has gotten any easier over the past year for the general player. Daily +15 gold aside.
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Why would you even play this game compared to smite?
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>play QM with /vg/
>leoric on our team
>someone jokes about him being murky leoric
>turns out, he actually thought he was a murky, doing nothing all game but attack forts/keeps all game and die over and over, leaving us in 4v5s all game
>we some how manage to win despite this

Is /vg/ on average even worse than the average quick match player?
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>>160946090
slutty skins are probably the best sellers
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>>160946375
Smite has shit gameplay. Really, really clunky. I like(d) the "all heroes for this one price" promo, but it was just like buying a partial game. Better than selling them separate I guess.
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guise i got placed in gold 3, should i kill myself?
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>>160945639
It's what I've been saying
Release a bikini/lingerie skins bundle, gets whiny people mad and start posting articles about it everywhere.
/pol/ and people like them find out and start buying those bundles to
>piss off SJW
the game stays alive and gets publicity
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>>160947514
Hells yeah!
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>>160947401
how did they placements go?
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EMBRACE THE COLD
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>>160948313
COLD ISN'T IT HEHEE HAHAARR
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>>160946375
genji skin
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>>160948313
EMBRACE THE END
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>>160947401
>>160935226
>>160928326
>>160825139
theres a GAMERGURL streamer currently streaming dia2 hero league. how does that make you feel?
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how about that diablo rework? i just want to be a luchador again
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>>160949729
Give it two weeks.
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>>160950402
thanks trykslyr i love you
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>>160948065
7 wins out of 10 so i was hoping for plat...
i didn't play in the previous season so that might be a thing too...
>>160947401
bad and retarded
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>>160809040
grow thicker skin, I mean you use 4chan, I'm sure you've been called a faggot way more than once, we all have.

In all seriousness I know it can be hurtful to be called out, but are you gonna let some stranger on the internet ruin your day?

No you aren't you are a strong independent neckbeard who don't need no support
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>>160951495
>bad and retarded
was meant for
>>160949238
>theres a GAMERGURL streamer currently streaming dia2 hero league. how does that make you feel?
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>>160951495
I think it wont let you into plat if this is your first season playing, or even the second season.
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>>160948313
>>160949043
EMBRACE THE KITTY!
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>>160951710
last one i played was pre-season and i skipped 1st season...
god damn blizz, now i am stuck in shitgold.
I don't want to play with mentally challenged people...
what do
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>>160951984
You should be able to carry yourself out with strong picks. Platinum 2 in no time, 30 or so games.
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I have come for the Genji skin, and I don't know jack about these games. How do I not suck shit at ASSFAGGOTS?

I've already played a few games against bots.
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>>160952714
What parts do you suck at?

>>160880270
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>>160952714
Now you fuck off
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>>160920042
The most likely nerf I can see is a nerf to the health of the block ward. That shit's too hard to kill for how much value it gives.
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>>160953084

The whole staying alive part is kind of eluding me.

At what point should I run from a fight, and in what scenarios should I Hearthstone?
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>played dota since warcraft 3 version or about 12 years
>Decide to play HoTS for the genji skin a week ago
>no last hits
>no items
>zeratul exists
I am level 25 and diamond 2 a week and a half after starting do I win anything?
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>>160953845
Nope
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>>160953651
You can't really die if you don't get overwhelmed or caught off guard. Keep your eyes on the enemy position on the minimap and try to keep vision during a fight. You run from a fight if it's a losing fight but you should always stay with your team. You should give up an objective if they're a level ahead and while they're busy, keep soaking xp from all the lanes. Yes, even on maps like Dragon Shire, where only 3 need to defend while the rest keep the xp coming. Never fight a 4v5, always force a 5v4.

People like you make me want to pick up coaching. It's really difficult to help through text like this. With a couple of key changes even YOU could prevent forest fires.
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>>160953845
Pretty impressive to be honest, that you adapted so fast to the new mechanics and the lack of some of the old ones. Keep working on it.
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>people that draft for a theme vs random shit.
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>>160955256
what did he mean by this?
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>>160955256
If you're going to follow a theme, at least make sure you can fill out basic rolls. Like Gang Green Gang did here.
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this event is the worst shit ever, partying with randoms is waaaay worse than playing alone
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>>160956659
fuck off mokkla
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>>160850645
its an old design from ye olden times with the comic explaining varians return for LK. AKA bc era fanservice trying to learn its place in the LK clothing line.

newfags think she is a hearthstone creation.
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>>160953845
>level 25
>dia2
i doubt unless you post ss
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>>160958048
Doesn't mean her design is not ridiculous. She needs some fucking pants and remove all that red shit on her back.
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>win 3 games
>8 game loss streak in qm

fucking party event i will never get out of mmr hell now
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>>160953845
How did you even get 14 heroes to level 5 before hitting 25?
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>>160960081
To be honest level 5 is only 3 matches.
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>>160959639
Are you the leoric who grouped with us earlier who kept attacking the forts/keeps and kept dying to them all game while you left us 4v5?
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Auriel is a broken piece of shit, its like a morales but she does more damage and never runs out of mana + more reliable cc.
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>>160961575
Well, no. Two things,

1. She requires a competent team. Whereas other supports can still heal. The "no-mana" thing is a double-edged sword.

2. She's more-or-less the only non-shit support. She highlights how support as a whole needs more heroes and some tweaks/buffs/talent reworks as a whole.

>inb4 hurrr aurielfag waifufag etc
No. I actually don't care to play her at all.
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Hey, /hotsg/
Kerrigan or Hammer?
Already have zagara for specialist/siege
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>>160961795
Then why are you asking?
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>>160961795
Kerrigan is overall better.
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>>160961928
Because maybe hammer can be usefull for something else that isn't siege and I'm a massive shitter?
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>>160962001
I think you might be better off playing Raynor, and if you're a shitter I don't think Kerrigan is for you yet. Besides, her stun combo is bugged.
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>>160962591
:^)
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>>160963113
~20 games each isn't that impressive.

Tried Valla yet?
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>>160961728
Aurielfag here, I completely agree
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Why is Li-ming so FUN and SHIT
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>>160961728
>She's more-or-less the only non-shit support
malf and brightwing are better
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>>160965113
Her farts smell really, really old.
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>all these new players
>all they're here for is the Nexus Challenge
>after it's over they'll be gone again and the game will go back to dying

sad
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>>160965796
>wanting OW playerbase to stay
I don't want league 2.0
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>>160965295
Debateable. Each are different (really?) But Malf and BW have had buffs and what-not recently. The concept still stands that supports as a whole are weak and need work.
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>>160966078
they're actually planning to nerf all supports and buff all warriors.
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>>160965890
you don't want an alive game and general? you don't want to feel superior? you don't want jealous dotards shitposting here? sad
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>>160966601
Not even surprised considering reddit and how incompetent Blizzard can be about thinking for itself versus taking feedback.
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Is chen a viable solo tank?
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>>160968040
only muradin, etc and johanna are viable solo tanks
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>>160966710
No, I want the game to follow the "dead" path that has been following up to now, I don't want balances made around retards, I don't want muh special snowflake youtubers to do videos about the game, I don't want their shitty playerbase on a game that I started playing to get away from them.
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>>160965796
I came for the skin, but have found myself enjoying it. Even tempted to buy a bundle. I've played dota/dota 2 the latter for years, it's quite relaxing in comparison and at this entry level, it's been like lambs to the slaughter. I don't expect that to last once I get into other modes, but I'll probably stick around and play after the event.
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>>160945639
we already have the biggest slut right here
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>>160972459
Deathwing skin!
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>>160972873
Didn't they say that the artists can't work with her model meaning no new skins?
I want lewd lingerie Brightwing
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New starcraft character should have this intro song
https://youtu.be/S41XFYRX6Bs
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>>160974262
Guess so, but I can hope.

>>160975007
Isn't that already in the game?
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>when your diablo and do more dmg then your li ming
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>>160976258
Yeah so? We already have a shitton of crappy warcraft characters, when are we getting a Dragoon or a Terran Science Vessel?
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>>160976608
I don't mind them turning this game into Heroes of Hearthstone with a Diablo expansion. Fuck scifi faggots.
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>>160968040
No, but if the trio isn't available he's the closest thing to a solo tank you can get
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Butcher skin sale when? I want to suicide in style.
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>>160976520
Pic very related
Seriously, I love his Burning Rage after W. It's pretty much bermanent and with Dibbles being so much in the face of people, it deals megaton of dmg over the entire match. Can't wait for this promised baseline resistance on warriors without reliable disengage; maybe he'll get it too.

>>160974262
The did. But they also did show the planned new model which is pretty much done, they just didn't implement it because of fear of crybabies rage over change. But then, whehn they showed it and explained the situation, the overall reaction was positive, so maybe they'll after all put the new model for BWing and Arthas
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>>160978662
>suicide in style
Just play Illidong, doesn't get more stylish than flipping all over the place.
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>>160978662
Iron Butcher lately got some polish in his model. I wanted to buy him during 50% off everything sale, but oh well, I guess Blizz doesn't want my money. and then I bought Nova Co-Op commander in SC yesterday
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Should i get Titanfall 2 guys? looks cool
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>>160981140
Ask the titanfall general. Why the fuck are you asking hots general?
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vikings buffs when
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Samuro nerf when? I understand you can deal with him pretty easily. But he's just straight up fucking annoying to fight because Mirror Image is on the shortest cooldown, and it makes him so ridiculously safe to play. Hell, those mirror images even do a fairly high amount of damage considering.
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>>160965595
DELET THIS RIGHT NOW
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>>160965113

>shit

But she's one of the most versatile characters in the game with pretty much every single build of hers being viable.
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>people who scream at me for playing Tassadar
>they scream at me for not healing them
>mfw

KNOW THE CHARACTERS YOU FUCKS
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>>160987405
>playing support in bronze
Only ass/warrior teams win there
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>>160987405
Pole dance the healing totem
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>>160923024
>tournaments
>play incredibly defensive
>never take damage
>cleanse
>ancestral

You could buff his heal to absurd level and they would still play him the same
Rehgar himself is still utter shit in every other level of play
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>>160987405
>free Samuro week
>not playing Auriel in quickmeme
It's actually fun, because it's retarded.
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>feeling azmodan
>going back to your waifu/husbando pair
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Ragnaros when?
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>>160988669
too soon
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Is there a website to look at what builds the pro's use? Not hotslog, since that's a bunch of folks. I want just the GM/Pro people.
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>>160989167
>pro's
Fucking americans kys yourselves
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>>160989167

Their builds change depending on their own comp and their opponent's comp so they don't have preset "builds" you fucking mongo fuckhead.
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>>160989263

Never claimed that they did. I want to see what they use against certain comps, obviously. Dummy.
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>>160989296

Then look up the vods yourself you fucking cunt
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>>160989167
use the hero leaderboard feature on hotslog

http://www.hotslogs.com/HeroRankings

just remember pro player names and spot them on the leaderboard.
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>>160989167
Mercy when?
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>>160974262
>Didn't they say that the artists can't work with her model
what kind of shit artists are those? They don't fucking pay them for excuses
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>>160990293
it's due to "technical limitations"
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>>160947514
>Release a bikini/lingerie skins
i want bikini female worgen, now
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>>160990357
>it's due to "technical limitations"
sure thing, multi-million company like Blizz has problems... damn hacks, at least show what you CAN do with your fucking "limitations"
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>>160989167
I've been using this, posted by some guy on reddit that apparently is good at HotS; he hit diamond 1 multiple times before masters was added.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UHCxA5ITmhhufV41O1QsFvFDm61abFqsa1TfR5SePNM/edit
keep in mind that his list assumes a high-level comp of people who actually know how to play the game, which you're probably never going to get.
And, for good measure, the post I got it from. Normally I wouldn't link reddit but stuff talking about hots' game mechanics is rare. Please forgive me https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/5ea1zh/the_definitive_guide_to_why_you_probably_shouldnt/
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jesus christ tyrael is squishier than fucking assassins
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>>160984119
TASTUH MUH BRADE
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>>160984119
You've got 2 options:
1. Wait a considerable amount of time for said nerf.
2. Get out of bronze.
I would recommend doing the latter.
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Jesus, leveling in this game coming from previous mobas is a nightmare

You'd think players on my team never played a moba before, none stop feeding, charging down lands literally into tower fire
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>>160991662

Getting out of any tier changes nothing about his kit, you know. That's just a stupid thing to say. His kit is ridiculously safe, hence my point. And even post-nerf, he's still the most picked hero in the game, with the highest ban-rate as well. So, I can't be too wrong.
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>>160992096
Getting out of bronze won't change his kit indeed, but it may perhaps help your realize how trash he is?
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>>160984119
TIL shortest cooldown means a 20 second cooldown

thanks reddit
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>>160992346

Clearly, the most picked hero and most banned hero must be trash. He's normal now, compared to his broken self. But he's still strong and claiming otherwise is just stupid, ignorant and proves that you're just trying to look better than your knowledge extends.

>>160992391

It's short for what it is. Considering you can use it to dodge attacks, get out of CC coming your way, slink away. Not to mention, 20 seconds is piss when you're dealing with a guy who can safely keep getting away unless you lock him down. Which you can't in most cases because of the reasons mentioned above.
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>>160992346
t. bronze
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>>160992527
how about the fact that he can barely do any damage in those 20 seconds while he is not safe anymore because his main ability is on cd?

dont you feel like you overreacting?
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>>160990643

>his Valla build

Absolutely discarded.
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>>160992019
Yeah, because we have an OW crosspromotion. Most of them have never played a moba, because they can afford to play good stuff instead of your ftp shit.
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>tfw 80k hero damage in 15 minutes as valla
she will be nerfed, won't she
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>>160993080
What tier lets you shoot them that much?
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>>160993309
yesterday i dealt 50k hero as zagara in gold so anon's claim is not that unbelievable
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>>160993441
I've dealt 160k with KT in a 60 minute game but that's as far as I go.
80k in 15 shouldn't be allowed by the enemy team..
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>>160993482
>60 minute game
Are you sure it wasn't just a regular LoL game?
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>>160993538
What a terrible time to have a curse.
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>>160993309
diamond 3
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Every one! GET IN HERE!
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>>160993948
>Every_one
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why are we so dead
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>>160997341
cause i want to get as close to sylvanas as possible
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>placed in diamond
ree
i wanted masters
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>>160997562
Did you squeeze maggots down your uthrera yet? Can't skip out on that, it's not proper undead sex if you don't have maggot sperm to go with her maggot eggs.
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>>160997648
isn't diamond the highest you can get out of placements?
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>>160997648
>playing as Samuro
Be glad they didn't put you into the bronze league you belong into.
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>>160997648
That's actually really good, anon.
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>>160997703
anime sylvanas is immune to maggots
here comes the rhyme, you are a faggot
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>>160789452
What the fuck is this bitch good for?

Whenever I play with her, no matter how well I do, I have 1/3 of the hero and siege damage and heal that everyone other hero does. She have one fucking completely unreliable stun and that's it, no wonder noone plays her at all.

How the hell does she even have a close to 50% win rate?
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>>160998089
And then you realize she not only has a D but is also interested in you.
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>>160998089
You stun off other people, usually your tank.
She's for early game killcomps. Her heal is garbo but she has it and her dmg output is on assassin levels, especially if you take her d into consideration.
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>>160998089
>completely unreliable stun
bronze etc etc, it's a good stun
>I have 1/3 of the hero and siege damage and heal that everyone other hero does
she also provides vision and vulnerability that are not shown in stats
Also 1/3 is pretty low, regardless of the build you should be doing more personal dps and the d should make up for the rest
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>>160998286
even when I've non stop kited and poked people through the whole game I still did only almost a bit more than half the damage of a proper assasin. I mean I could have come with janna and literally wreck everyone when playing like that.

Is she really only good if someone can set up her stuns? I mean should I even play her without a friend?
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>>160998490
jaina*
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>>160998490
Ever checked your Hotslogs?
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>>160998923
>using hotslogs
>when it requires you to turn off adblock
no
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>>160999230
>being stupid
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>>160999230
Thought so.
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>>160997723
not sure havent placed since pre-season 1 when there were ranks 50-1
>>160997758
i like winning
>>160997768
ty

if anyone wants to do qms on EU add
iillliillill#2854
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>>160999230
It doesn't though
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>>160999829
then whats this
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>>160999523
>putting inferior feelings like wanting to win ahead of not being cancer when playing a competitive mode
You would literally rabbit punch if you could get away with it.
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>>160999914
You sucking at using computers.
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>>160999914
Did you try pushing buttons? I'm blcking adds and scripts and it still works.
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whew those mmr soft resets fucked me
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>>160998089
You just suck
Go owl build with lunar momentum and overflowing light every single game, blow shit up and burst heal with a mix of lunar and sentinel procs
Play aggressive
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>>161000409
Yeah, it was much easier to gain rank early on. Especially with friends to carry you.
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>>161000616
i have no friends, just played lots of League of Leggos for a few years before Hots release
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>>161000540
Not him but I'll give this a shot. I always liked Tyrande but also always sucked at playing her.
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>>161000764
You should have no problems re-climbing.
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>>160997648
diamond 3 is the highest you can get, gud job anon
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> playing tychus
> kill ETC
> "Heh, for the most wanted man in the sector, you ain't that hard to kill"

What did he mean by this?
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>>161004512
Everyone wants the mega dick.
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Trueshot Aura worth it on Tyrande?
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>>161005151
If you have 3 other autoattackers
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Now this is a dead thread
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>>161008502
he's a faggot and op meme character
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>play quick meme with kerrigan
>we have an auriel
>doesn't heal and keeps pushing people away with her whip
>bitch at me for not "instagibbing" people
I want the nexus event to fucking end already
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>>160992794
it works well but it's depressingly low skill, low fun. when pro builds aren't things unforgiving like arrow or cocktail something is fucked up.

>>160998089
mostly you right click on the nearest hero a lot so hero damage should be better. she can be rough in QM due to matchups but between the mark on boss-types and the channel canceling she has good value once you get used to her. not really a beginner character.
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>>161008502
>op

You are going to be really mad when they buff him.
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>>161008757
Just duo with a Varian and go around ganking everyone.
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>all new heroes are fucking terrible

What did Blizzard mean by this?
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>>161008569
ur mom's a meme
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>>161009514
>Zarya buffed a day after she came out to be one of the best heroes to ever be in the game.
>Samuro banned nonstop for almost a month.
>Ragnaraos is looking to be incredibly op judging by how people reacted to him at blizzcon.

Go be retarded somewhere else.
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>>161009514
>Zarya
>bad
>Samuro
>not a complete anti-fun cancer character
try again
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>Zamuro in all qm
Just fucking neuter that character holy shit
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>>161013147
He's free this week.
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>No Tychus tint that has him look like Doomguy.

Wasted opportunity.
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Living the meme on qm
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>>161016107
>Not having Raynor, Tychus and Kerrigan to 10 and getting that stupid portrait.

What are you even doing with your life?
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>mfw accidentally blew 7000 on Murky because trying him in the shop he seemed pretty fun to meme around with but turns out I don't enjoy him at all
ugh
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>>161017306
>accidentally
No, you're just a moron. It would've been an "accident" if you were dumb enough to repeatedly confirm you want to buy him without actually intending to.
But you made a conscious decision. And a moronic one at that.
Lmaoing at your life
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Anyone in the UK want to be "friends" and do the genji easy AI games?
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>>161018602
>UK
No thanks.
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>>161016426
>not leveling 3 core alliance characters to and getting cucked with a horde portrait
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>>161018602
LONDNO
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>>161018668
>>161019032
The hospitality is overflowing in here.

So why do you guys play this game and not dota or lol? because its easier to click a box from the launcher than install another companies product?
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>>161019279
same reason you play overwatch, it's casual
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>>161019279
Sorry, as an American, I only feel disdain for eurocucks.
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>>161018724
>There isn't a portrait with Dalaran, Stormwind and Ironforge flags for leveling Jaina, Muradin and Varian to 10.
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>>161018602
Not in the UK otherwise I would just for the added XP.
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>>161018602
why does it have to be UK? im not a muslim but we can play together senpai
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>>161019279
The games are short and rather fast-paced. Doing League and Dota's whole "sit in lane and farm for 20 minutes, then group and hope the rest of your team did well" is exhaustive for my limited time these days and my short attention span. Heroes is very objective and teamfight-based long before 20 minutes and not super snowbally (at least from what I've experienced) so I rarely ever feel those periods of time in a match where I'm just not invested at all.
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>>161019279
Because it's fun eurocuck
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>I can get the Altered War Bundle for 5 bucks.

Druid Illidan, Ranger General Sylvanas and Crown Prince make it tempting.
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>>161020916
based lelo
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>be on qm
>enemy team is getting near the boss
>their barracks are down and two temples are up and their core was already at 52%
>"go to the temples, let them have their boss, we will have won by then"
>they start contesting 2v5 boss because medivh was half bar and just being bird mode
>they get killed
>they get boss
>I was already on one of the temples and tried to contest against a gazlo and a samuro
>get curbstomped
>teammates blame me
FUCKING OVERWATCH AND LEAGUE SHITTERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>161009514
Varian IS OP as fuck in certain situations, and can solo every boss (even towers of doom) because why not.
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>>161021958
The only time Varian is OP is in blow up comps with Tank or Colossal Smash and even then it's because of point and click stun and chain stuns.
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>>161022115
pretty much this
fury is OP only in quickmeme mostly because people have no clue on what they're doing
arms is the way to go
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>>161023593
>arms
>literally need a team built around you because you're a melee glass cannon without the cannon part
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How do I build Lunara?
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Is the warcraft movie as bad as the normies claim?
Or is it because they are normies?
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>>161025748
it's no citizen kane
>>
>>161025748
Some people complain that the plot is hard to follow since they don't know who these people are/why they did this. It's alright just don't expect it to change your life.
>>
>>161025748
Do you understand what normie means?
It was made for normies, they like it.
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>>161024012
>higher burst than kerrigan
>same stun duration and you can't fuck it up
>vulnerability buff
>banner

What the fuck are you talking about
>>
>>161025748
not bad but very forgettable
orcs 9/10
humans 4/10
>>
>LFM AI rush

any of you nigs /down/?

scubasteve#1426
>>
>>161027220
>scubasteve
Thanks, but no.

>>161027124
It's a fanservice movie for people that played WoW featuring the Warcraft 1 story movified for people that didn't play Warcraft 1.

6/10 it's pretty ok for a video game adaption
>>
>>161022115
>picking taunt
No.
>>
>>161025748
Even for an adaptation, they changed so much of the story and it is just terrible.
>>
>>161027459
I know it's pretty okay, but this movie was hyped for like 10 years and they could have make it a lot better, either by splitting it in two movies (one for the orcs and one for the humans) or by making it in full cgi. I liked it but in the end it could have been much more.
>>
>>161027494
Taunt with Overpower is good for chain stuns and he does decent burst if you can parry correctly.

Though you shouldn't be picking Varian right now no matter the build. He's Butcher. He only works in QM.
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>>161027776
>tfw most wins in HL with Butcher

pls tell more people not to pick him, I wanna be the only one.
>>
>>161027921
Let me rephrase. He doesn't work against people that actually know how to play the game.
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>>161028014
so the vast majority of players then.
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>>161028014
I don't play in top 20 Grandmasters and never will, so I have no chance of running into those. Butcher will always be bae for me.
>>
>>161028348
A decent amount yes. It's more about drafting and most people don't draft to beat the other team they draft who they want to play. Which is fine, but they are also the first to start complaining when a Butcher is running wild because you don't have CC for him.

He's easy to counter, hell he's even easier to play around. Vast majority of people just don't care enough to.
>>
>>161028610
this is why I don't pick him as an early pick, because a random bronzie on /hotsg/ would get pissed if I did
>>
>>161028835
He's like Illidan. Very strong if used right, but most people are fucking idiots. Just because charge is off cool down doesn't mean you have to use it you fucking moron.

The only pick I legit get angry at is Nazeebo and that's because every Nazeebo I run across is the same. They miss every Zombie Wall, do nothing the entire game and when we lose they say wasn't their fault and to look at how much damage they did.

Fuck you Nazeebo.
>>
>>161029284
I regularly pick Nazeebo too and win. nobody knows what to do when they're inside the walls. literally nobody because they only encounter bad Nazeebos with shit aim. I'm terrible with the meta heroes though.
>>
Hey guys is this game actually good?
I've never played it before.
>>
>>161030285
try it out, you might like it
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>>161030409
That's a better answer than like 99% of generals on /vg/ would give, so I will.
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>>160795881
>>160795838
I know you're trolling but uh..

Just in case you aren't..

Abathur spawns minions from a wave out of his body, but all of his abilities are pretty much global range. He can shield and repair towers, spawn explosions and spikes and buff allies similar to the Mage-head out of the Ettin dude, two players one body style.

So yeah, it's normal, he isn't AFK.
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What's the new Brawl?
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>>161032540
Everyone is Morales and the map is BoE.
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varian is really fun hero, feels like an extreme barbarian badass. didn't have such fun since kaelthas and later leoric release.

what are some fun builds? im lvl 7 on him currently, been playing the arms build because its such a cool ult he just leaps and screams AAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!! fucking erasing any shitty squishy out of existence esp. with banner of dalaran
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does the repeat brawl give 1k gold? or its just visual bug?
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>>161034159
>asking for builds
wew kid, he has 2 or 3 choices per tier, and most are crap.
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>decided to finish nexus challenge today
>picked up buddy and played 5 remaining matches
>always pick Abathur since I have not played my favorite nigga in a while
>get 3 MVP and got rewarded in other games
>people commend and upvote me
>at my final match I get this

What a wonderful day, I dont remember when I had so much fun with MOBA in a while.
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>>161037371
was that from someone on the enemy team?

either way gj
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>>161038442
Yeah, enemy team Anubarak got buttblasted.
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>>161038492

I will never understand trash talking someone who bested you. Serious cognitive dissonance there.
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Why people never focuses hammer, its like a free kill but noooo, lets focus the fucking leoric that has a malfurion ulting at his side
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>>161040276
B r z
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My team lost by chasing Samuro and fighting under enemy towers AND in a Raynor ultimate.
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>the varian was calling other players morons
>he tried to solo boss
>we told him he can't solo it
>he died trying to solo it
how is it even possible to have such shit dmg as varian?
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>>161037371
report him for death threats against your family, he'll get b& :^)
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>>161040564
varian can solo boss if he takes third wind and fury
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>>161040417
The rest of my team, to clarify. I never died after hitting level 12, you can probably guess why.
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>>161040564
Third Wind and Fury Varian can solo boss by just attacking and then walking away from the keyboard.
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does anyone have the uther image where he's doin the jack black stop pose
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I started playing for the Genji skin but the game seems depressingly boring. I feel like I must be missing something. When does it get fun? I generally like Blizzard games and loved the Warcraft 3 custom game community back in the day, so HOTS should be right up my alley.
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>>161042279
Have you tried playing with friends?
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>>161042604
My online friends hate it and my rl friends only play console games.
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>>161041469
This. I've tested it even with bosses that stun. Can just right click and AFK/alt-tab for a bit.

What about the Braxis boss? Probably still can tbqh.
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>>161042048
Sadly I don't got a few others such as the newspaper, book cover and festive if you'd like
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>>161042279
Its actually the opposite for me. Im quite enjoying it. Then again its the first time i play this genre.
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>>161043781
Was there any hero in particular that made the game more fun for you?
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>>161044106
Leoric. No idea why but im really having much fun with him.
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>>161044106
What heroes have you been playing and what modes?
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>>161044106
Zagara, makes people ragequit when you beat the shit out of them with your worms
>>
New thread when
>>
Someone make new thread
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>>161045392
>>161044734
>>161044727

Here >>161045430
Thread posts: 764
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