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this bitch clearly converted 3 of my cities to catholic why cant i use holy war CB?
i have the civic to unlock holy war.

>I have 52 colonized worlds.
>I have a dozen protectorate/vassal empires.
>I have a fleet power in the hundred-thousands.
>I still get absolutely WRECKED by an Awakened Ascendancy.

Raising the fleet cap to 9999 was a mistaaake.

Post your Endless Legend/Space/Space 2 memes.

>>160635961
How large is their fleet? Do awakened FE's constantly build ships to the max fleet capacity?

>>160636027
Yes.

He had at least three 100k+ fleets that I know of.

>>160635425
i figured it out
need a 5 turn denouncement like formal war on top of the holy war conditions, to declare holy war

>>160636087
Damn lol probably has several more then as I've seen people post multiple 100k/200k fleets from FE with regular fleet capacity

>civ6 multiplayer
>one dude focusing on me, war turn 100+
>giving another person cities and resources while wearing me down with war penalties
>penalties on amnesty/production/science/culture

What can I do? I am superior in everything but one guy commits on pulling me down to his garbage level.
The worst part is that my defending units are being pulled in because of minus income.
Peace talk is out of the question, the match is surely rigged.

>>160635961
I dont know how but i was able to Beat xenophile awakened fe with 70k , fleet 900limit (around 2340, war took 20 years). I declared prevention war and they sended two fleets 50k and 90k which i dispached with 20k loseses. I took 9 of their planets (those stations man) and i plan to take remaining ones in next war, but firstly i need to build my new infrastructure and build up my fleet.
Im a little afraid because the reaserch projects gave me psi jump drive and im worried to use it. I didnt had any crisis yet so i dont know what to expect. I think ive got Nice fleet comp (without energy torp thou) but i think i cant war anyone when those guys can be summoned in my systems without a warning. Any way to know when theyre coming (few years after reaserch, using drives to much/on large fleet?) And tips on unbidden fighting?

>>160636598
Uninstall and play a game not designed by chimps that cant understand how removing unit selling while keeping unit loss based on insufficient income is fucking retarded

>>160637212
You delete units to save maintenance you know. The game doesn't have to compensate you for it.

>>160637212
If you want be realist disbanding armies should actually cost cash or cause unrest.

What you guys think about Aurora 4x?

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>>160638812
Autism simulator 4x?

>>160638812
dude data entry the game lmao

>sectors have 10k excess minerals
>still won't upgrade their power plants

Wasn't 1.3.2 supposed to fix this? Really glad I still haven't paid for this game yet.

>>160635425

Speaking of religion in 6, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE the lack of natural religious pressure really fucking bugs me. I swear, even with trade routes religions just flat out don't grow unless you're spitroasting the city with religious units.

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>>160635976
All i have

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Reminder: Civ VI is trash

>>160640430
Thanks for the reminder
I'm still enjoying it

Hey i have a question. If i built an industrial zone and once it's finished i build a mine next to it. Does it still het the adjacency bonus or not?

>>160640430
They just fixed it bro.

>>160640692
yes

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Hey so I've been trying to play multiplayer with my friend and every time either him or I try to join eachother's games it brings up something like,

"The host has a different version"

even though we both have the same version and no mods enabled. I also have no servers showing up in the list, what the hell is going on?

>build a campus because I'm a tech whore
>put a couple of scientists into it
>conquer another campus because "lol other people having science"
>some kind of renaissance singularity happens
>totally unable to build a military unit before it becomes obsolete despite focusing on gears
>boosts like "build 3 biplanes" become so farcical that I am almost ashamed to systematically conquer the entire world

>>160640430
better than V

>>160642394
yeah, focusing production isn't going to help you keep up, you need to max out your encampments, or airports in your example, for the production boosts.

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>tfw you try the Aztecs for the first time and do an early game blitz
Oh my god why didn't I try this sooner

>>160642394
theres little reason to get science stuff, most games you can be fine not making a campus until late in the game. theres probably no reason to aim for eurekas either, ive stopped doing it. all you ever need is production and gold, and maybe some faith if you want, since it can also become land units, and some other sick shit if you get Valetta or jesuit education. and you can contest AI religious victories.

science doesnt seem to mean much for warfare because that shiny new unit has barely more strength but much higher cost. in civ 6 it makes more sense to spam cheap units particularly when the AI flat out sucks at making any kind of army either in quantity or quality and easily gets swarmed.

>>160636087
My last game was regular every setting, no mods, and the xenophobe AE had like 800k fleet power in the early 300's. It felt like my game had just ended but at his second thrall offer I was like 'Okay maybe an endgame crises will provide an opportunity some day and I wanted to see what a game as a subservient was like anyhow.'

Then he liberated a planet in my name then declared war on the protectorate he just made who I couldn't revoke my protection from because I was a thrall so I was forced to war him and then I started a new game.

>>160635425
You shouldn't be allowed to fight against the best religion anon.

Civ VI needs more and better looking female leaders.

>Beat the game on Immortal
>Bored
Did the patch do anything to make the game more enjoyable?

>>160635961
awakened empires are broken to the point of being undefeatable unless you cheese them out

>>160635095
What's the game in bottom center of OP's pic?

>>160650841
How do you cheese them?

>>160646905
I consider having infantry while the AI is still on muskets or having nukes when they just discovered uranium is a thing is pretty fun.

And it's not really hard to do in VI, just either settle several cities and build the science buildings in each one or conquer the cities that already have them.

>>160651823
Split your fleet up into several parts and simultaneously be bombarding all their worlds at once, even if for just a few seconds until you can pause the game and you'll have a decent amount of warscore.

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>civ6 4p multiplayer
>one faggot is about to win
>everyone gang up on him
>sequential turns GO!
>get to play 5 mins every 15 mins
>online-speed makes sure armies are outdated before they reach his borders
>he can also spam/buy/fate units faster than they can be killed
>war lasts about 3 turns because no one can tolerate all that faggotry
>alt-f4

and that is why mp-civs usually go hugfests

>>160653023
So, attack them in too many places to deal with and bleed them to death?

... kind of like bees attacking a bear, but successfully.

All right, I'll give it a shot.

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alphamod is one hell of a ride

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>>160654920
I mean look at this shit

>>160653810
Yeah but it's cheesey because you aren't using some real world strategy of death by 1,000 cuts it's more abusing stellaris's incompetent AI and dumb warscore system.

Realistically an awakened FE would swat away all the bees like it was nothing but for a few minutes while you cover their worlds the warscore system tells them they are screwed

>>160655446
Well I guess I'm just going to start playing with them turned off until they fix this.

How can they fix this?

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>>160655117
I really just can't do this

>>160655609
I mean you can beat them if they don't awaken early. Focus on teching up quickly, hope they don't awaken early and hope that when they do the war in heaven triggers and/or a crisis happens.

Unbidden are a great balancing force against them especially if they spawn inside one of their empires.

Build lots of cruisers also

>>160654920
>>160655117
>>160656230
what the literal fuck is all that shit.

>>160656230
>>160655117
>>160654920
>people wasted time doing this
>no one made a decent star trek mod
why god

uhg, is there a mod for civ 6 yet where you can bring the camera back further?

>no sped up map showing your growth over time

how is this not standard

>>160658803
No. We are going to use the facebook game view from now on

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>>160635095
Anybody esle had problems with crashes in Civ VI after the Fall-update? Maybe it's because I'm playing on a save from a pre-update? I'm not a computer whiz or anything like that, so I dunno. Pls halp?

>>160659992
Start a new game, silly.

>>160659992
I have a bug where some of the improvement like Camps or lumber mills show up as big red "!" symbols

>>160658307
>>no one made a decent star trek mod
Saw some that seemed pretty promising.

>>160654920
Damn that map reminds me a lot of some of the eve alliance maps. I should check out that game.

>>160660596
stellaris mods featuring eve alliances where

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Reminder that Bannon did nothing wrong

>>160660865
>Reminder that Bannon did nothing wrong
Where is this from? Warhammer?

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>>160661258
World in Conflict
a pretty damn good Cold War RTS

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>>160661359
>no longer on steam

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>going to attack with bomber
>click-drag to see available targets
>bomber attacks the mountain I clicked on for the click-drag

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>be chilling out in my empire just researching and chill
>suddenly fanatical purifiers declare war on me
>defend myself and protect my galaxy by wiping them out
>somehow I'M the bad guy

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>>160635976
We have the memes, if you have the Dust for it.

>>160661535
>he didn't get it for free from GOG during the giveaway

Think i'll aim for a Religious Victory next playthough - But what's a good balance between difficulty and non cheating AI
Emperor?

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>>160635976

>>160663097
Saladin was fun, religious+science, makes for fantastic jihads when needed, and money everywhere

>>160651574
Looks like Call to Power maybe?
New Call to Power when

>>160663324
Call to Power 2 I think. The UI is different in Call To Power 1.

>>160663239
I tend to random leaders now since i've already beaten the game 4+ times, most recent being Emperor (though i memed a Diety)

>>160659992
Yes, my almost finished pre-patch game also crashes. Feels bad man. Hope new games don't crash.

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Ebin :-DDD

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>still playing civ 6

>>160663734

You can aqueduct those mountains for fresh water, although you'll be two housing behind player civs (AI is too retarded to plan aqueducts so no worries there)

>>160663820

>Being this dedicated at trying to shoot down the new and cool thing

I bet you're going to tell us Civ 4 was better back in the days

>>160663734
enjoying destroying those gems for memedistricts

>>160663871
you keep the resource you retard

>>160663913
really? kek, 3 games under my belt and I never knew.

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Why is Isabella's theme in Civ5 a Republican war song?

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>>160665484
wtf

>>160663820
Will play my first civ6 game today or tomorrow and you can't stop me!

>>160665674

Did the update make things better?

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https://youtu.be/3lpYalNVQ0w
>Trump who doesn't minmax, doesn't plan any fucking thing ahead, just clicks on whatever unit upgrade he feels like without even looking what it does, doesn't build military until like 1700AD, chooses retarded civic cards because he obviously doesn't know what half of them does and randoms his civ effortlessly stomps the deity AI
>I don't even feel comfortable on immortal
I know quick is much easier than any other speed, but come the fuck on. I don't even understand what's happening most of the time. Where the fuck did he get all this mad dosh? Why didn't Germany declare war on him, shit all over his cities and rapes all of his women when he didn't have any troops and they were mad at him?

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>>160667049
>playing against my sister
>doing well enough as Japan
>she rushes 8 different wonders in a row with workers within like 5 turns of each other
>rolls into Tokyo with two dozen crossbows she bought with gold
And thus Japan never got to rape Nanjing-chan.

>>160667063

The AI right now is catastrophically retarded and can't pursue victory conditions outside of Religion if you fuck up and Culture if you REALLY fuck up

Science is already a nightmare for the player and is impossible for the AI. Domination isn't even remotely possible, although the AI can kill you if you fuck it up on higher difficulties

>>160667910
Gold purchasing is really overpowered
Selling Great Works via Oracle+Theatre District or resources for loadsemone then buying everything is more effective than it has any right to be.

>>160668047
You can sell great works??!?!?

>>160668135
To the AI, who get literally unlimited wealth to buy shit from you
Scythia offered me 45gpt + lump 1000 to joint war...65 turns in. On marathon.

>>160668256
Oh duh I knew that.

>>160665674

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>>160639927
It's been so long since I last did the Drakens, what the fuck was their deal?

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>>160670318
>what the fuck was their deal?
They are the faction of peace... and surprise backstabs and blitzkriegs.

>>160670451
wtf is this game?

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>when you've got 2 slingers ready to fuck a nigga up for that sweet research but nothing spawns

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>>160670513
The superior 4X to Civ6.

>>160669415
■■■■?

>>160667997
>The AI right now is catastrophically retarded
Has there ever been a civ game where this wasn't the case?

>>160670513
looks like endless legends to me

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>>160670513
Endless Legend.

>>160670936
It wasn't as catastrophically retarded in IV. And any mild retardation was masked by not having the stupidity of 1upt.

>>160670640
>>160670942
>>160671075
Just bought it. It better be good or else...⸎⸎⸎⸎⸎⸎⸎⸎⸎⸎

Any good 1.3.2 repack for Stellaris? Civ6 got old quicked than BE

>>160671835
>⸎⸎⸎⸎⸎⸎⸎⸎⸎⸎
What he mean by this?

And by that I mean what the hell was he trying to post?

>>160672019
Try xatabs repack

>>160672224
I mean that if the game isn't good, then I will

>>160672493
>>160672224
ᶠᶣᶜᶜᶶ®ᶳᶤᶳᶵᵋ

>>160663849
>>160663734
look on the minimap, long rivers don't show up properly.

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Does placing a district on a strategic or luxury resource net me the resource?

>>160673121
No, it gets genocided, much like armenians.

>>160673121
You can't build on top of a strategic resource, but if one happens to spawn underneath on you already did build then you get it for free. You can build on a lux but it gets removed iirc

>>160655117
>Equality of living standards and lack of competition is leading to low productivity and slowed expansion.

This triggers my leftism

>>160673279
>>160673398
well, so much for strategically placing my German cities for maximum Hansa. There should be an option to destroy/harvest strategic resources.

>>160673279
I see what you did there.

>>160655117
>Ayn Rand intensifies

>>160674260
Who's Ayn Rand and why do everyone hate her?

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>>160675361
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>>160675485
■■■■ ■■ ■■■■■ ■■■■. ■■■ ■■■■ ■■ ■■■■ ■■■ ■■■■?

>>160675758
⍩⍩⍩⍩ ⍩⍩ ⍩⍩⍩⍩⍩ ⍩⍩⍩⍩. ⍩⍩⍩ ⍩⍩⍩⍩ ⍩⍩ ⍩⍩⍩⍩ ⍩⍩⍩ ⍩⍩⍩⍩‽

I wish Sectors would construct happiness buildings.

What was the general consensus on Endless Spehss 2?

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Nuclear warfare is intense, I love it. Fully promoted tanks are a necessity to capture irradiated cities and withdraw out of them before taking radiation damage. Before my units were fully promoted, I only used nukes to take out enemy units, and I had to avoid hitting the cities themselves. Later in the game, I went thermonuclear on Brazil, which was a mistake because all my tanks died before they even reached Pedro's cities.

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Anyone got an updated version of the restart mod?

>>160675325
She is a filthy commie who didn't like living in a commie Russia and thus moved to capitalist US of A in order to preach communism.

>>160676382
>doesn't like communism
>moves to Capitalist Land
>preach Communism
????

>>160676279
dude wtf thats evil

>>160676537
She was a libertarian. Don't listen to that stupid

>>160676640
She was a hypocrite.

She died draining Social Services.

>>160676902

>>160676640
>>160676902
I'm lost.

Regardless of her opinions, why exactly is she hated? I don't think she was a politician, I would remember her.

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>>160676640
>libertarian
>considers working class as a scum
She is a typical USSR commie, the one who would kiss Stalin icons.

>>160677084
She was

>>160677084
https://www.google.com/search?q=atlas+shrugged
She wrote a book that was against gibs and regulation, which makes people furious.

>>160676139
Incomplete as it is still EA.

The soundtrack is still pretty good even if it is supposedly unfinished.

https://soundcloud.com/flybyno/sets/endless-space-2-ost-demo-early-access

>>160677294
>there are ubermensch that are treated like shit
>once they remove, the brainless masses can't do shit
What the fuck. It's got to be the most contemptuous description of the workers that I ever saw in a fiction book. Even SMAC and its drones was less disrespectful.
Is that for real? Do people really believe that crap?

>>160677084
She espoused a toxic ideology centered around the borderline worship of corporate power, greed, and the virtues of self-sufficiency, then surrounded herself with cronies and hangers-on and died while receiving social services.

I'm all for self-sufficiency, but she was a whacko.

She was the inspiration behind Andrew Ryan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f18NWnxRmjI

>>160678042
>We need to give the rich tax-cuts!
>They're JOB CREATORS.

>>160678048
>She was the inspiration behind Andrew Ryan
Sure, but isn't Bioschock a complete discontruction of why it doesn't work to let people run free?
Didn't Ryan went apeshit when Fontaine took Rapture away from him, despite all of it being a respect of his "survival of the bestest" logic?

Rand a shit.

Nietzsche was better.

>>160678240
Andrew Ryan was inspired by Ayn Rand, right down to his hypocritical refusal to live by his own philosophy.

>>160678140
Caution, your reddit/theguardian is showing.

>>160678368
I'm a warm-blooded American capitalist, friend.

>>160678339
That makes sense. I was really shocked by that in the book, but he let a man kill another in the name of free market, but becomes a dictator the moment Rapture slips away from him.

Does DX12 do much for Civ 6?

>>160678042
>Is that for real? Do people really believe that crap?
Leave no threat to gibs unaffected. It's one of those unwritten laws.

>>160678780
It justifies your win10 purchase.

>>160678896
Excuse me?

>>160678780
It wastes valuable engineer time which should have been spent on vulcan or whatever the other cross platform one is.

As a conservative Democrat, this thread took a depressing turn for me.

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WTF I love Stellaris now.

Still has some weird interface bugs though.

>>160679570
As a liberal Republican I can say the same.

>>160679902
>mfw got CKII, EU4, and Stellaris on a sale
>expected Stellaris to be the one I'd have more fun with
>turned out it's EU4
How can Paradox make a fun game and yet fuck up Stellaris that bad?

>>160680169
Lack of precedent to draw scenarios from. Also, normally their games are unbalanced because real world isn't, but they couldn't do the same here.

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>jungle diamonds
>build a mine there
>it keeps the jungle & 2 food but also gets a mine improvement

>>160679907
Times are weird, neh?

>>160680169
Their designers had literally no idea how to make a 4X.

>>160680969
Aren't the grand strategy games 4X?

Well, kinda?

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>>160673279
>genocided, much like armenians.
What are you talking about?

>>160660647
look up EVE Horizons on the workshop

It's got over a dozen factions plus ships

>>160682297
Is that what caused a ship looking like Ferox to appear in one of the videos on the community site on steam? Or are they eve-looking by default?

>>160681985
:P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qurVjKs4LE

>>160682427
Yeah probably. The mammalian ships do kinda look caldari-ish but not it was probably someone who had the mod.

The ships are also separate mods so you don't have to install all the junk that comes with the main mod.

I refuse to download it since he used the Cyclone instead of the best ship in the game the Hurricane for Minmitar.

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Anyone seen this before? Is there a reason behind this happening or is Firaxis just shit?

>>160682610
Looks like spyware to me, delete that shit nigga

>>160673121
I want to repopulate the armenian race with ana kasparian

>>160681185
Sure and turn based strategy are kinda real time strategy games.

Grand Strategy games don't have to follow the four x'es. In a game like ck or hoi there's no eXploration and eXpansion afaik. eu4 has some exploration I guess, but the expansion is only really if you're a colonizer and even then it is extremely shallow even compared to the expansion of civ1.

>>160683930
At least, they play similarly.
Grand Strategy Games are just 4X watered down, with a greater emphasis on diplomacy and warfare.

How Paradox managed to fuck up Stellaris is still beyond me. It's like they never even played a 4X before and made their game based on rumours of how 4X are like.

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I want a fantasy/sci-fi 4X, with space elves and undead manning ships!

>>160676106
Not worth it in most cases.

>>160685769
That happiness bonus makes your citizens as productive as slaves on all tiles.

>>160687067
How stupid do you have to be to believe that mankind only works because of a few chosen ones?

What's next, indigo childrens?

>>160687286
How stupid do you even have to be to take ayn rand seriously? She was one of the few American writers that made her nation a worse place to live. There is a reason why posting rand on /lit/ was bannable. Want your freduns? There are plenty of better writers without smelly rancid clams between their legs that write better than her .

>>160687067
>>160687286
You faggots should probably take it to pol.

>>160687504
>There is a reason why posting rand on /lit/ was bannable
It's THAT bad? I'm amazed and a little scared.
>smelly rancid clams between their legs
Gross.

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OH NO SHE'S CUTE

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>>160682297
oh my god
they actually did it
the absolute madman

>>160687113
>That happiness bonus makes your citizens as productive as slaves on all tiles.
No.

10% gives you a 4% increase in yield.
Even on 20+ size worlds I've calculated that another mine gave me a higher yield than a happiness building.

It depends heavily on your other modifiers.
With more +% modifiers, like you already have some happiness, industrious, % from tech, then the extra % like happiness become less valueable and the hard yield from a mine become more valueable.

>>160688209
Oh.

Oh, wow.

I need to rethink my life.

Did the recent patch change Civ VI's tier list?

Who are the best leaders?

>>160688659
Elizabeth is still the lewdest one.

>>160688687
Most powerful, then, instead of 'best.'

>>160688818
Shaka Zoulou.

are there patch notes out?

No matter the difficulty or where are we settled, every game at least half of the leaders declare war and hate Saladin, why is him so hateable?

Does Greece's Acropolis not count towards the district limit?

>>160690449
>Saladin's unique agenda is called Ayyubid Dynasty. He likes civilizations with his Worship Building, and dislikes civilizations following other Religions, or civilizations waging war on followers of his Religion.
>and dislikes civilizations following other religions

>>160690827
What's a Worship Building?

Something like a Pagoda or a Cathedral?

>>160690749
none of the unique districts do

>>160690950
yep. it basically means that he will never like anyone unless they're under the thumb of his religion. and because he won't establish good relations with people, they won't like him either.

Can any kind anon upload the Bread Baskets Updated to the mega?

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Halp

I just changed a policy and then used adam smith to get a new economic slot.

Now the game won't let me get an economic policy because they are locked and this shit is keeping me from ending my turn.

I know I can change governments, but there better be a better way of fixing this than that.

>>160692370
Press your quicksave key, wait a bit, then kill the game and reload

Or just reload your that turn save.

>And when the hourglass has run out, the hourglass of temporality, when the noise of secular life has grown silent and its restless or ineffectual activism has come to an end, when everything around you is still, as it is in eternity, then eternity asks you and every individual in these millions and millions about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not.

well, have you, civ4x?

>>160693470
no mate, you?

>>160693209
Didn't work.
I'll just change governments. I'm like 20 turns away from winning anyway.

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>>160693209
>>160693748

Also, a bit of an oddity, as soon as I changed governments to theocracy I got the tech boost for computers.

So medieval governernt + 3 card slots? = computer boost

>>160694646
>How do you want your update f@m?

>>160694646
well the eureka does say just 8 policy slots, so it might be working as intended. more likly its just an oversight like everything else in the game though

>>160696039
Yeah, but the weird thing is it doesn't count diplomatic policies afaik.

>slums are unusable because they are full of poor people
>you can clean up the tile at great cost
>you can't use the people afterward because they didn't count as real people
>they're just gone

Is this really the future that Gene Roddenberry envisioned?

>>160681985
That's one sweaty ass sandnigger.

>>160697958
>>160682510
Meant for the clip.

>BTS
Best civ for a really wide empire on Marathon and a map with big continents? What traits are the best?

>>160698237
what size map

>>160698443
Standard or Large. Huge is too much.

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>Meet India for very first time
>Next turn, see "Unfriendly" icon next to his portrait
>What the fuck
>Check reputation
>-4 for "First Impressions"
>Literally said hello and acted friendly right out of the gate

You really can't fucking win with diplomacy in this game

Playing civ V, and I can't cross the map to the other side (as in the earth is flat, can't circumnavigate)
Is this a bug? I've done it before

Eureka moments are just a shit idea that I want to remove from the game. I bet if you just keep the science rate as it is while removing eurekas you would hit eras somewhat more historically.

>>160698784
Some maps are like that

>>160690827
That explains why we used to be brothers before I started spreading my religion.

>>160698532
best probably aztec for the amenities and you can overcome the scaling of district cost.

probably anything can go wide but england, brazil, germany unique districts are all great. japan is good for spamming a bunch of small cities, lining up factory bonus, and farming faith which is a great currency for wide empires to supplement production, while also spamming religious buildings which scale linearly. rome can build a city almost anywhere easily including dry mountain areas, and supplement amenities with the bath, but the AI in the game is generally so bad at expanding that you can always find places to settle even without it, but theyre a strong choice. russia has natural wide bonuses, egypt and spain have spammable tile improvements.

>>160700872
>districts
Anon, BTS. >>160698237

>>160701021
sorry didnt recognize that acronym

>American warrior corps in modern era
>3 pop cities with 70 defence
>privateers cant capture cities
>everyone mad
what the fuck.

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>>160702265

>Warrior Corps in the modern era

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>>160702403
ok, i lold

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>hillary clinton dlc
>background is a jail cell

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>Patch notes: Increased AI priority for upgrading units
>Scythian horsemen in the industrial era

>>160635095
How do I take screenshots in Civ 6? When I Print Screen + Ctrl and copy paste into an image editor it's just black... :(

>>160703867

I just use the Steam screenshot tool. Don't know what it's mapped to by default

>>160703867
what about microsoft snipping tool?

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>>160703867
>Print Screen + Ctrl and copy paste into an image editor
Nigga, you crazy.

F12

>>160702669
Does the AI still get massive discounts for upgrading units?

And how cheaty is the AI in general?

>>160704937

I don't know about what discounts they get, but they do NOT care about upgrading units. I've seen spearmen and chariots around china's capital while they beat me to Ruhr Valley.

why are unique improvements always so fucking bad

when will firaxis realize that literally no one can afford to be placing and working some shitty +Culture or +Faith improvement instead of Food/Production

>>160705935
>when will firaxis realize that literally no one can afford to be placing and working some shitty +Culture or +Faith improvement instead of Food/Production

When firaxis starts to understand the game they make. Why are UD half of and don't count toward the district limit, but UB full price?

>>160705935
When Firaxis will step out of their hugbox and see how much they fucked up.

Game has started crashing for me after the update.

Anyone else experiencing this?
>drivers up to date
>rx480lol

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>be me
>playing Civ VI for the first time
>Get a nice cozy spot
>very secluded from the rest of the civs it would seem
>meet Kongo and Gorgon whatever
>they declare war on me almost instantly
>time goes on
>see one Kongolese warrior
>kill it
>Next turn they both sue for peace in exchange for their luxury resources

Am I playing Civ V? I thought I'm playing Civ VI.

>>160705935
When Firaxis stops being shit, I'm still bitching about xcom 2 and civ v

>>160707254
People have been saying saves started before the patch are crashing.

Is Thea any good? I remember people talking about it a lot a while ago and I don't remember the consensus.

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How the fuck do I get my cities back, religiously, once another civ rushes me with Apostles? Back in Civ V you would get a great prophet now and then to help take back your cities, but now I can't see a way to bring back my religion.

>>160705935
i only play single player but i think sphinxes are great. they work well with flood plain or things with natural 3 yield.
i think food and growth in 6 are almost meaningless. theres so many ways to get a big army with production cards like press gangs and chivalry, professional army, theocracy. your shittier small cities with low hammer actually make the best harbor/encampment due to cards. the only reason youd want to stack food is to chase premium wonders.

>>160709719
If it's a dire situation, start a war and kill them. This happened to me on my last game. Germany was REALLY fucking close to a religious victory because I wasn't paying attention to them.

>>160709719
what i do when getting usually the final religion is prioritize having an inquisition and get 1 inquisitor to hide in a city until im ready to have a holy war. then eventually i have a holy war and clean up all their religious units with a horse, then remove heresy in my holy city and start climbing back out of the religion hole.

>>160709719
The holy city of your religion will slowly, over time return to that religion if it isn't influenced any more.

Are any promising mods for Civ VI forthcoming?

How about World of Master of Orion?

Is Civ VI worth getting if I have Civ V?

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Do people not play as the Ardent Mages? I never see anyone talk about them.

Do you guys dabble with World Builder?

>a race about mages
awesome
>they draw power through s&m
no thanks

>Group of sentient armor
>they can draw power by going /fullvampire/
yes please

>>160715453
>Beetle Jews
I'm In!

>>160715539
>Mongolian Beetle Jews
GIVE ME 20

Okay so I have discovered Sanctuary in my current game. I'm playing a 2 arm galaxy and I'm at the end of the arm as close to the center of the galaxy as possible, Sanctuary is only like 3 hyperlane jumps away from my home system. My ethics are Individualist, Materialist, Militarist and I'm a military republic. I'm essentially playing as high tech space elves since I also downloaded a mod that allows a ringworld for your homeworld. I am playing "tall" for as much as that is possible in Stellaris.

The question is what do I do with the primitives living on Sanctuary?

1. Invade each ring section, giving them culture shock but then taking control and getting my own pops to also move over so Sanctuary is a mix of different species and a galactic hub of commerce and inter-species relations (fitting since it's as close to the center of the galaxy as possible)
2. I can't purge them because of my ethics but I could bombard them out of existence and then colonize the world for my own.
3. Enlighten them peacefully and then the system becomes a rainbow of 4 different civilizations with their own sections of the Ringworld and then I vassalize them all.

What should I do guys? What would militaristic space elves that value individual choice/freedom but see no inherent spiritual value in life do?

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>>160717937
should have gone xenophobic, then you could have enjoyed personally owning 2 1/4 ring worlds

>>160670640
>>160670942
>>160671075
>>160671835
Okay, it's good. You guys are saved.

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Just finished my first post patch game, and I'm still really disappointed.

>Still seeing Inspiration text errors
>AI is still retarded when it comes to upgrading units
>AI is still retarded when it comes to agendas
>Most units still feel useless and the tech tree moves so quickly you usually won't need things like observation balloons or medics
>Combat still takes forever with units having goofy amount of health; A destroyer should not take two hits to destroy an embarked knight
>Counterspying still sucks. Just let me leave my dude in my city. I don't need to reassign him every 12 turns. I'll reassign him when I want to reassign him.
>Barbarian encampments still spawn way too much. I'd rather not keep a soldier every 5 tiles in the north and south pole because a fucking AT crew will show up in the single tile of fog of war

I'm not going to give up on this game like I did with Beyond Earth. I can feel it really has some good shit under the surface. I love the districts system, the new culture victory, and even the art style. They just REALLY have to tweak some shit.

>>160701021
What does BTS stand for?

>>160706550
Same for UD and UB.

>>160707298
Kongo is shit, they declared war on me and my 20 Jaguars with their pitiful 5 warriors army.

>>160720754
On what difficulty are you playing?

Guys.

What's the new meta for ship loadout in Stellaris?

I've been using a mixture of Kinetic weapons of various types and swarm missiles, but I'm willing to branch out.

Seriously, what am I doing wrong?

>>160721208

King.

>>160721263
6 M plasma cruisers, traded almost 2:1 in favor of me against the fallen empire i fought

you ever get the feeling that some civs were designed for the AI?
like, their bonuses are too situational or are low priority for a regular player but not for an AI who can shit out as many things as they want?

>>160721503
Plasma? Really?

Why?

>>160721263
You can't really go entirely wrong as long as you are a thinking person in how you design your ships.

For example fighters/bombers can be useful if you also load your ships with missiles and torpedoes, this way you overwhelm point defense and flak.

Go pure kinetics, mostly kinetic artillery + mass drivers with a few autocannons and flak and you really don't have to pay attention to whether or not you are facing an enemy with shields or armor.

Because they made tachyon lances an XL slot and didn't add any L only laser weapon lasers overall are kind of a weaker tree to go down. However, plasma + disruptors is a very effective weapon combo.

>>160721656
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/stellaris-paradox-grand-strategy-in-space.21143/page-144#post-7174008
it just works

>>160721702
>Go pure kinetics, mostly kinetic artillery + mass drivers with a few autocannons and flak and you really don't have to pay attention to whether or not you are facing an enemy with shields or armor.

This is what I do, but I'm really only putting Kinetic Artillery on my Battleships.

Should I make it more common?

I feel like having two medium Mass Drivers or Autocannons will do more damage than one large Kinetic Artillery -- unless we're talking about the range advantage?

>>160721263
Kinetics are the best starting weapon now and in general, the kinetic weapon lines will continue to serve you well as decent all-rounders.

If you don't plan on using Autocannons, at least research the Autocannon line anyway so that you can unlock Flak Cannons. Ditch Point-Defense for Flak Cannons as soon as you get them.

Lasers have been nerfed. Plasma Cannons and Energy Torps are your best friends in the energy weapons department. Disruptos are also probably not a bad idea, might want to stick one or two of them on a few ships to take down shields quicker.

Don't use regular Torps, they're only good against Spaceports.

>>160709858

Production > Science > Food > Culture > Faith > Gold

the only UI worth building are stepwell and ziggurat

>>160721864
Whoa, okay, Plasma Cruisers it is, then.

>>160721702
>>160721864
>>160721945
My current loudout tends to be, Autocannons on Corvettes, Mass Drivers on Destroyers, Autocannons on Cruisers, and Kinetic Artillery on Battleships, with at least one Swarm Missiles and one Flak Batteries on Destroyers, Cruisers, and Battleships.

>>160721912
Adding mass drivers or autocannons to a battleship isn't effective because the range difference between them and a kinetic artillery is so large.

Load battleships with Kinetic Artillery and use the other weapons for cruisers and smaller.

Since I'm autistic I like to stick to one weapon type so I'll only use kinetics or lasers or missiles so I like Kinetics the best because they have greater variance in weapons (mass drivers/autocannons/flak/artillery/XL giga cannon). Assuages my OCD having uniform weapon types.

>>160722272
Oh, that makes sense.

Thanks!

For fuck's sake, why do I have to RESEARCH automated exploration?

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>>160639887
>tfw trade routes dont provide any incoming religion
I LOST MY ENTIRE RELIGION TO THE ARABS AND THE ONLY CITY TO HAVE MY RELIGION IS JERUSALEM, AND THEY ARENT EMITTING ENOUGH RELIGIOUS PRESSURE TO HELP ME GET MY RELIGION BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AMITUOFO HELP ME!!!!!

>>160723016
>automating things

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What pantheon should I get? Very mixed bag here.

>>160723235
Look, I just need my ships to find the green worlds so that I can put up an observation post and colonize them. Expansion is key!

What's the best-looking ship type in Stellaris?

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>>160723306
The one that paves the way for the one true religion

What do your fleet compositions look like?

Corvette/Destroyer/Cruiser/Battleship?

For me, it's 4/3/2/1.

>>160720754
Observation balloons are great because you don't need an aerodrome to build them and they make your arty better.

>>160723785
2/1/3/1

Torp corvettes and destroyers are 1 kinetic artillery and 1 flak

>>160723306
Divine Spark or Lady of the Reeds and Marshes

>>160724197
Why 2/1/3/1?

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>Playing Spain
>Spawn next to Aztecs, China, and Greece
>Declared Friendship with both Montezuma and Pericles
>China declares surprise war
>Wipe out his army
>Montezuma and Pericles immediately declare war on China
>Pericles takes Xi'an
Feels good to have friends.

>>160721208
>What does BTS stand for?
https://www.google.com/search?q=civilization+bts

How do you get by without not knowing how to search the Web? I really want to know.

>>160724197
3/1/3/1.

Points-wise, that's 3/2/12/8, or 25 points.

I just queue it up whenever I've got a spare 25 fleet points and the Energy to afford it.

>>160724197
>mostly cruisers
literally worse ship

>>160725254
They aren't your friends. He gets the city after you did all the work, and now Pericles is one step closer to winning the game.

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>>160725420
Pericles can have it. It's already Catholic. My work is done.

>>160723785
I dunno exactly but something like 5/4/2/2
I have a ton of vettes and they are usually the only ones to die so it's easy to resupply fleets

Do I have to rebuild my entire fleet to make use of a Fleet Academy?

>>160725775
fleet academy and other modules only affect ships that are built by that spaceport, so yes

>>160726080
Fuck.

I can't just upgrade them there?

Taking bets on how long 4xg will live this time around before it goes the way of rtsg.

>>160726182
nope, unless it's changed in the latest patch but I doubt it.

>>160726275
What do you mean? Before straight-up dying?

The biggest franchise just got a new game and will get at least 2-3 years of support.

They haven't cut production on Stellaris.

Endless Space 2 will be out within a year.

That's plenty of material to keep the general going.

>>160726275
6 weeks

>>160690959
That's actually pretty rad to be honest. I was planning my districts around it now I don't have to worry.

>>160698613
Never go diplomacy its utter shite in civ games. The only hope you have is meeting a nation that likes war, spawns halfway across the world from you hates a civ that hates you, and you shower them with gifts. even then theres a chance they just wont ally with you.

>No Harbor district city-states

>=^(

>>160724291
Destroyers are shitty, more cost effective and better to build more cruisers. Cruisers wreck everything right now and corvettes are overrated

>>160725306
why would you lie on the internet anon?

>>160728951
Should my cruisers be long-ranged, with kinetic artillery, or short-ranged, with autocannons?

>>160729640
autocannons kick ass

>>160729871
fuck, I mean artillery

>>160729994
So, destroyers, cruisers, and battleships all employ artillery, while my corvettes rush in with autocannons?

JUST AS IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN

WHEN OUR MEMORIES OF THE ANCIENT WORLD FADE INTO TWILIGHT

>>160726967
What's more, when you plan a district's location, that instantly locks the number of hammers needed to finish it. You can plot down your acropolis immediately, then switch off and build the districts you need to get your city online first. When you get back to it, the cost will not have adjusted with all the advancements your civ made in the meantime.

>>160732527
So district cost is based on your research level?

>>160732917
It can depend:

http://civ6.gamepedia.com/District#District_Production_Cost
All districts, except for the Aqueduct and Spaceport, have a base cost of 60 Icon main production.png Production (scaled to your game speed). However, District construction costs are affected by other variables.

Specialty Districts
>The Specialty Districts are Holy Site, Campus, Harbor, Commercial Hub, Entertainment Complex, Theater Square, Industrial Zone, and Aerodrome. The Spaceport is also counted as a Specialty District for certain bonuses, but is not subject to these production cost mechanics.
>The cost of a district increases as you progress along the Technology and Civics tree. Cost increases linearly to +900% when all Techs or Civics are researched, whichever fraction is larger.
>District production cost is also affected through a comparison of how many of that type of district you have total in comparison to other players. If you have fewer of a given district than the average among all players, the cost of that district is reduced by 25% for you. Districts have the same cost between all of your cities at a given time. The cost of a district is set when you first begin production, even if you switch production and return to it later.

Neighborhood and Aqueduct
>The Neighborhood and Aqueduct (and their corresponding unique replacements) have a fixed cost based on game progression (2% increase per turn over base on Standard speed?). They are not affected by the number of identical districts built by you or by other players.

Unique Replacement Districts
>Unique Replacement Districts cost half as much as the districts they replace and do not require population to be built.

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Does anyone here like Sean Bean as Civ6's narrator?

Personally, I'm not that fond of him narrating.

Who would you want to narrate instead?
I was thinking Sir Michael Caine or Sir Ian McKellen

>>160733585
I love him as a narrator, I just wish he was given better material to work with.

>>160733585
he's okay, but mainly there for the normie factor. he would be better if he had some good quotes, though.

>>160733585
He phones in some of the quotes but that's because so many of them are absolute fucking trash. The two mountain quotes truly highlight the disparity in them. Compare Mount Everest's versus Kilimanjaro

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>>160733652
>>160733662
>>160733753
>better material
>better if he had good quotes
>quotes...are absolute trash
WHy is this so fucking true? I feel like more than half of the quotes in the game are made just recent pop culture quotes from celebrities and I dont feel like they even tried to get any quotes that are older than 1960

The leader descriptions are so fucking short and uninteresting, the built wonders and natural wonders are pure trash. What went fucking wrong???

>>160734014
>What went fucking wrong???
Firaxis pandering to feminism, even though no female would play any of their game willingly.

persia in civ 6 when

who the fuck adds scythia but not persia

it's like carthage without rome

What about Wonder Units?

Like Multi-tile Carriers and Panzer 8

is it ever worth it to say fuck it to early game productions and rush the fuck out of your closest neighbor's capital?
im talking like right from the very start

>>160725507
I want to fuck that smug bastard

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>>160734014
just compare the faction intros when loading in to most of the quotes

>>160734335
depends on difficulty and map type, some civs you have to rush unless you enjoy the bullshit they like to pull off later on

Space > Culture = Diplomatic > Domination >>> shit > Time

>>160735710
>Space above anything

>>160735710
>diplomatic

>>160730729
Yes essentially

On the medium slots on cruisers and destroyers that you can't put artillery put flak

corvettes can also have torps but 3 autocannons works as well.

>>160730729
sounds like a win to me. It'd get some PD in there though

>>160730729
>>160736703
I might have the cruisers have arty + the medium mass drivers too because the L only arty isn't accurage against corvettes and destroyers

>>160735710
domination>shit>you>everything else>OP

>>160727216
But diplomacy is hilarious because you get to pretend you are everything Hillary Clinton wants to be and win through bribery, favors, coups, and rigging.

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modding tools when
poland when
byzantium when

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Well I'm not the one getting eaten by bugs.

>>160737714
I miss Theodora

>>160734014
We need to make Civilization great again.

I miss Montezuma's introduction from Civ V and having an advisor for every different game mechanic.

>>160737845
Get your liberation engines revving, anon. Liberate the fuck out of them! Liberate them back to the stone age!

>>160738126
Nah I'm just going to build a wall around my empire and let the Swarm eat the galaxy then kill them.

>>160738395
>Sentinels finally spawn
>In the middle of the Swarm's space
>Die almost immediately
Great job guys.

>>160738395
>a wall
>in space

>>160739610
a 3d wall

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>>160739610
>You can't build a wall in space
>Laughing_federation.jpg

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>>160739919
Why didn't Dukat just blow it up right away?

Not that it fucking matters the prophets being faggots they are

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>>160739809
>>160739919
It wouldn't work.

>>160740170
that is a 2d wall

>>160740170
why dont they just build a wall around their planet?

>>160740280
Lack of oxygen is usually deadly.

>>160740337
>oxygen comes from outside the planet

>>160740480
Oxygen needs sun.
The sun cannot go through a wall.