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so was there even a newsletter today

>>160575481

I think it was literally just the NTTR video.

Glad to see all that manpower going into a map 90% of the community doesn't have/want

What the fuck is worng with the engine?
My fps instantly drops to 20-30 as soon as i turn my head in the direction of 10 or more ground targets. Are they going to fix this performance issue in the near future or should i just end myself because i cant stand this much stutter

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good morning guys

>>160576817
OH HAI YO :3

>>160576509
>nttr video
link pls

>>160576509
The only people who dont want it are the ones who dont understand how real world flight ops work, have a complete lack of aviation historical knowledge of the area and how its contributed to the advancements in aerospace, and of course never served in the air force in real life.

>>160577204

The only people who want are are complete utter autists, like you.

Enjoy role playing as chuck yeager you faggot.

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Ignoring the whole wasted resources argument, the updated NTTR map is pretty good. It's practically the whole state of Nevada at this point.

>>160577301
>admitting I've never even been to Nellis in real life and am jealous other people here are there on the reg

>>160577420
God that looks like shit

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>>160577483
Not him, but I know how real world flight ops work, been in the area, know a lot about aviation history, I know how important the air bases in the area are in terms of amazing secret shit that gets flown out there, and I still think NTTR is a waste of time.

At least from a consumer standpoint.

From the military point of view, as in selling DCS to the people that actually make ED money, having an admittedly amazing representation of NTTR nets them a shit ton of brownie points in the eyes of the people who buy these things for training. I bet you that at IITSEC in a couple weeks, ED will be there showing off the latest version of NTTR in The Battle Simulator.

I'm confident that marketing TBS for professional training was a factor in ED committing to NTTR.

>>160577420

I have no doubts its a good terrain. It looks amazing. The actual ground is meh, but the city looks great.

My issue with it is that its such a restrictive and limited theater in terms of scenarios.

>>160577483

>I got randomly stationed at Nellis so that is why NTTR is a good DCS map

Good argument man.

>>160577681
I think NTTR is neat, don't get me wrong. It's really cool to fly over areas I actually recognize. However, it still bothers me that this is the first terrain ED has done, and the first terrain added to DCS after flying over Georgia for 10 years.

If this was the second or third terrain I wouldn't mind at all, and in fact I'd probably be pretty for it, but I would much rather have had something more than a terrain for pretend fighter pilots to have a good wank over how cool Red Flag and the US are.

Hormunz would have been a much more interesting first terrain.

>>160577681
>still think NTTR is a waste of time.
>goes on to state how it was brilliantly designed and marketed

Not only is Nevada great for the practical purpose of milsim training for the USAF/ANG, there's also another reason it was modeled, along with the A-10C, and the emphasis on WW2 fighter modules, and the upcoming F-18, former Jane's dev Matt Wagner is slowly using DCS to revive every Jane's sim he can under the DCS umbrella, unfortunately younglings like the idiot above cant appreciate that. Those of us who have been flying and simming for over 20 years know the new golden age is nearing, and it's all thanks to a guy who saw an A-10 sim die along with an entire game development studio before most of the posters here were old enough to talk

>>160578013
Oh god are you the one autist from 2 threads ago who got baited and bodied so hard he sperged out?

>>160578013
I've been flying and simming for over 20 years. You are delusional.

>>160578082
>delusional
>literal Jane's F-18, A-10, WW2 Fighters, and USAF are being modeled right now

>>160578184

DCS WW2 only exists because another company tried to make it, failed, and ED took it on because they figured they could crank some cash out of it

besides IL-2 is better for WW2 stuff anyway lmao

>>160578341
>IL2
>literally no where near accurate flight models
>DCS WW2 has the same planned flyable planeset of Janes WW2 Fighters with the most accurate fm's technology can produce

>>160578657
at this point I can't tell if you're shitposting or just bluepilled as fuck

>>160578718
>you're shit posting
>in other words Im just mad everything you've said is right

>>160578657
>literally no where near accurate flight models
>DCS which has many broken flight models and year old bugs is accurate
you need better bait

>>160579072
>literally said IL2 is the best WW2 sim
>literal on rails flight modeling

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>le on rails flight modeling meme

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>>160577681
>tfw won't have a functional CF-18 variant with its Tu-95 troll light

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>>160580069
>Tu-95 troll light
Please tell me more

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>>160579878
I would just count him as jealous for missing the golden age of flight sims.

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>>160580632
I dunno about the golden age having already passed. Even though sims always lag behind by half a decade they benefit the most from advancing tech & available hardware. I'm waiting for home-VR to come out of it's teething period and it seems like the population of people playing proper sims is growing more than it has in the last 10 years.

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>>160581526
I can see some good times ahead at least for il-2 considering they are going back to their old style of expac pacs done by theatres/battles. Along with them pumping them out at an effective rate.

I couldn't say the same for DCS sadly. The fact its been on the same map for a decade plus shows the state its in.

I don't think any other flight sim has done multiplayer parasite planes

>>160539515
I know, but the OS is still a big factor in performance, especially for older games

>>160581820
I just hope they fix the performance that BoS has currently, it's kinda shit.

And that they finally add that DCG that they had for RoF. I suppose at least PWDCG works with it though.

That said, old IL2 is still the most comfy if you have a well modelled cockpit and plane. The 4.13 Liberator is nice.

>>160577870
>My issue with it is that its such a restrictive and limited theater in terms of scenarios.
Just as restrictive as Georgia, you're not bound to playing events that actually happened you know?

Just like not every mission over Georgia is a recreation of the 2008 war, not every mission over the NTTR has to be a recreation of a Red Flag meet.

>>160582632
>I just hope they fix the performance that BoS has currently, it's kinda shit.
DX11 is slated for sometime December, they usually hit their targets so I'm optimistic.

>>160583325
Yeah Georgia can easily double as Vietnam theatre or really anything you would like!
You just gotta believe!

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haha kiddo, looks like I just insinuated that the game you're playing has 'on-rails flight models'.

heheheheh, what are you going do about that huh? there's no way you can defend yourself against such a vague assertion.

Looks like I win again.

Checkmate,
baited,
bodied.

>>160583473
But with NTTR it can easily double as a some sandy shithole.

>>160583789
Yeah with all the american style towns and airfields it could totally be iraq or afghanistan!
You DCSfags are desperate and cling to anything that might make your shit game look less shit.

People who chastise NTTR and then defend Georgia in the same sentence are a bit strange desu.

>>160583847
>Yes all the Russian style towns and airfields are totally like vietnam.

I mean anon

>You DCSfags are desperate and cling to anything that might make your shit game look less shit.

>OH NO i'm playing a shitty games, all the cool kids will point and laugh at me

Stop being so pathetic.

>>160584056
i am pretty sure the comment about georgie/vietnam was irony anon, do you perhaps have autism if you can't pick up on things like this?

>>160584215
>I am pretty sure the comment about georgie/vietnam was irony anon

irony ≠ sarcasm, you dumb fuck

>I was only pretending to be retarded

>>160584215
>Irony

Truly american.

Assetto Corsa worth getting if I just got a wheel?

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>>160585748
what else you gonna use that wheel for?

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>>160586397
Dirt Rally and a bit of rFactor as is. Just looking at what else is good, given that I usually play flight sims.

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>Viggen
>AV-8B
>F/A-18C
>F-14A/A+/B

2018 YEAR OF DCS

>>160587687
try 2020 at the earliest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO_Rz2mOgo
>On 4 June 2015, a Su-34 had an accident in Russia's Voronezh region while conducting a routine training mission. The airplane's parachute failed to open after landing and the Su-34 slid off the runway and flipped over. Nobody was killed.

rip planefu ;_;

I need a new monitor and not sure If I should get an Ultra wide or 3 monitors. Anyone here uses an ultrawide? Mostly for euro/murricanTruck sim and farming sim. Sometimes IL-2 stalingrad.

Do fighter jets have checklists?

Like, a paper one that'd just be lying around, or are you expected to be genius enough to always know what to do without needing a reference sheet?

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>>160596043
I use an ultrawide, it's very nice. I feel the benefit more when doing work than playing games though.

Pic related.

>>160596393
What did he mean by this?

>>160596737
Paper checklists (or I guess iPad ones) that say for example
LANDING CHECKLIST:
FLAPS: 30
LANDING GEAR: DOWN
LANDING LIGHTS: ON

and so on.

Though I'd assume use would be far less rigid in fighters than airliners, I wonder if it's present at all just to refresh your own memory or make sure you don't forget anything on start-up.

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>>160596403
what monitor and specs on pc? Any notable differences in performance? I got pic related. Had no problems running anything yet.

>>160596892
Yes, they have checklists, especially given potential damage that can occur during combat.

>>160596892
I imagine at some point you have it memorized, but I do have some checklists like that for Spitfires lying around.

What would be interesting is the emergency and abnormal procedures though.

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>>160596945
are you me?

>>160597676
>>160596945
>Any notable differences in performance?
Obviously, I don't have any trouble but I naturally lose fps, how much depends on game. Not too much though, 10 or so?

>join server that includes a pve zone
>bunch of FC3 niggers shooting people down in that particular zone over and over

Delete FC3

>>160597826
Allright. Well not much then. My current monitor has a lot of screentearing and don't like using the the tv for sims, only games I can play with a 360 controller.

>>160598119
I turn off VSync for the sake of performance, so I guess I get some tear but I really don't notice it.

I could just be used to it I guess. I've an ASUS PB298, I'm very happy with it.

>>160597676
Stupid question here but since you got pretty much the same setup, do you get screenlag/tearing a lot? Scrolling up and down in this thread already makes a lot of lines and tearing. Its not as bad in games but sometimes it gets annoying. I blame my monitor and really hope it gets better with a new one.

>>160598370
I don't think so? But like I said, I could just be really used to it. If it's happening to me I'm certainly not noticing it.

>>160598370
>Scrolling up and down in this thread already makes a lot of lines and tearing
enable Vsync on your browser

>>160584215
Ironic misuse of the word irony there friend

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>>160584215
>irony

>"a situation in which something which was intended to have a particular result has the opposite or a very different result"

I knew burgers were dumb but this is another level.

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>>160599387
Source? Please tell me there is some comfy seaplane Animu out there that isn't Porco Rosso.

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>>160592017
>that bylat at the end

>>160597836
>Pve zones

nigger, just join a coop server.

Where do I get the best sex mods for Sims 4?

>>160598498
he could enable vsync through his cards driver settings as well so its always on couldnt he?

>>160585748

Eh, I don't really like Assetto Corsa much, 2bh. Every single fucking car in it understeers way too fucking much, and oversteers way too fucking little. I've driven some of the cars (namely, some of the ones in the Jap Pack) IRL on a little motorsports track, they don't plow nearly as easily IRL as they do in that game.

>>160603994
Any suggestions then?

>>160605379
I dunno, Sim Racing is pretty dead unless you're willing to pay ridiculous subscription fees or be nickel and dimed with car packs and shit. Dirt Rally is good, but I don't know of any really good asphalt racing games.

My wheel has been getting used for My Summer Car now mostly.

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Would you buy this piece of shit in DCS?

>>160605516
I just mean for singleplayer. No point in trying online when even the /o/ threads are kinda dead.

Guess I'll just stick to rFactor and mods then.

>>160606436
I mean you can give Assetto Corsa a try if you want, it's good for F1 racing and shit (I feel like the tire model is probably built first and foremost for that), but if you enjoy technical driving where inducing oversteer is important it's a bit more difficult to get into.

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>>160574816
hey u dead ass my dood
dood

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>>160605827
Depends, does it explode if it detects a German account?

>>160605827
Depends on what variant it is

I'd definitely buy a G variant or S

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>>160605827
>>160606620
CF-104 best 104

>>160605827
100% Yes.

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>>160606718

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>>160606814
>he doesn't want the version that saw most widespread service

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>>160606913
>butthurt leaf

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>ded general filled with shitposting
>no ops ever
face it at this point we might as well merge since the shitposters have long won

>>160608416
>no ops ever
lol, we just don't invite you, nerd

>tfw just bought an arduino leonardo with intent to make buttonboxes and shit for DCS

how much FUN am I in for, lads? I've never programmed anything in my life.

>>160608416
How the fuck does she get that smug?

>>160609006
First you'll need to learn how to solder and programming that thing with buttons and shit, and maybe basic machining of whatever material you plan to use if you intend on making more complex parts.

I suggest you learn how to use a CAD program like Solidworks or Solidedge to design your shit if it gets too complex.

>>160612845
A N A M E

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Post your hi-res yet grainy cold war era aviation photos.

This, is my aesthetic.

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>>160613417
No, post more animeplanes.

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>>160609006
>arduino
>hard
I slapped some thin membrane switches, psp analog stick and slider right on my hotas throttle and wired them up to pro micro board. Programming is very simple, just use the HID library for leonardo. There are examples and tutorials.

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>>160613575

No, find your own thread.

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>>160613575

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>>160614772
>Allison Mustang fuselage
>Merlin cowling
>Worst paintjob so far
What am I even looking at?

CH flightstick and throttle or just get the newegg $400 TM Warthog+pedals bundle. Help

>>160581526
>coming home from the bar and logging into Flying Circus with my squadron bro's and dogfighting with 60+ till dawn
>Comfy Sundays on Warbrids flying against/with actual old ww2 pilots.

Yeah that was the golden age to me. At least the 1st. VR is bringing a 2nd.

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Can anyone recommend the VKB Gladiator?

I like having everything on my sick and it looks like something I'd like. Anybody have any info on it?

>>160617103
Its really just a better made X52 with a KG12 grip, so if your into the KG12 or need a small size all-round pick one up.

>>160617962

I'm lit, buying it now. Been watching some reviews and it looks exactly like something I want.

>tfw the trigger can be flipped upwards, so you can lower it before firing like a real soviet pilto

fuck god its lit

>>160618261
Can you flip it over the upper trigger and pretend to fly a 190 or 109?

>>160614772
What plen is this???

>>160618261
>VKB have been "developing" the KG12 for the lineup of VKB and Warthog joysticks
>It was meant to come out in the summer and with all Gladiator sticks no longer in stock for the EU modding it for the Warthog is looking grim
JUST

>>160618664
considering it's based on a 109 stick... maybe?

>>160618904
I just checked some ruski video, it's possible yeah. That makes this thing worth considering.

What would be a throttle to go with it? Not sure what to replace my current X52 setup with when that eventually happens.

>>160618782
It's a Mustang.

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>>160617103
I hear it'd good if you strictly like WW2 plens, not really enough hats for a jet though.

>>160620817
is it stiff?

or floppy like of tranny cock

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>>160615508

>>160620817

I fly every thing imaginable using a logitech 3d pro and keyboard, I'll be alright.

>>160621195

Check this out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7L_AmneTuU

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So, which do you prefer, /simg/? A Merlin-equipped Mustang and/or Spitfire, or a Pratt and Whitney R-2800-equipped Thunderbolt?

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>>160623693
Rolls Royce R equipped Supermarine S.6

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>>160624662
Whoops, that wasn't meant to spoiler.

>>160613620
Haven't you heard about MMJoy?

>>160632303
F-5s are so good looking.

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effects like this in DCS when?

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>>160633308

I'm praying some day we see this in DCS.

The effects we have currently are not only terrible, but also look nothing like what its supposed to.

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>>160633676
fucking Italian turbo-cucks

>>160633308
>>160633676
Knowing DCS and basically any simulation engine we /could/ have particle effects like that, but they would chug like all fuck and drop your frames into decimals.

Although we do have much prettier if not entirely realistic missiles & vapor trails, hopefully they have the same 12 hour per week intern working on explosions somewhere, so that we'll have good looking explosions just in time for the heat death of the universe.

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>>160632984

>>160637129
>but they would chug like all fuck and drop your frames into decimals
No they wouldn't. You're over-estimating how many particles are needed to get something that looks decently close, especially if you have somebody who knows what they're doing.

Y'all remember DCS ops?
I remember.

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>>160638936
https://youtu.be/dY6kZYXyh64
https://youtu.be/JF3nDBMU8Dw
https://youtu.be/kKwrTghrWN8

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So, turn and burn or zoom and boom?

>>160624662
>>160624956
I do appreciate a Merlin

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>>160639169
OLD OPS WHEN
I WANT THE OLD DAYS BACK
CUSTARD START MAKING MISSIONS YOU LAZY POSH FAGGOT AND THE SAME GOES FOR BOTH OF THOSE DISGUSTING LEAFS
OPS WHEN
OPS WHEN
OPS WHEN
MAKE /SIMG/ GREAT AGAIN
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>160623693

Rolls Royce Merlin Spitfire

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>>160615664
You should kill yourself.

>>160639169
>>160639626
come to think of it being in canpaign for the god emperor detracted me from ops in any sim game. ive not been here for months now and before that i was intermittent for a year. im sorry guys. been playin il2 46 because nostaligia.

>fly the M2KC for the first time in like six months

holy shit this thing is just easymodo the fucking magics get lock on high aspect targets from like 3nm out

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>>160615664
The B/C model. They had Packard-Merlin engines before bubble canopies were adopted.

>>160615664
>>Allison Mustang fuselage
>>Merlin cowling

>literally caught not knowing anything about the P-51

>>160615959
Get the CH, cheaper and more reliable. There are people who have been using the CH Fighterstick for over 10 years and it's still perfectly calibrated since day one

>>160639626
The BR hosts his missions and some of Custard's and Tyrannik's missions on the pastebin I think

>>160640835
All sims are equally accepted. This general doesn't revolve around DCS

>>160615664
worst plane and anime girl in history

what are some good release parameters for CBU's on the F-5, /simg/?

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>>160639169
>that last vid

Jesus christ, when did /simg/ go so AESTHETIC?

I want the old ops back. It's been like forever since we last had ops, recently it seems like the thread revolves around posting old content and newer types of shitposting. What happened? Did switching the TS cause a split or something? Did the shitposting get so wild people started leaving? Are planefags just busy? I miss you guys ;_;

>>160643150
>Did the shitposting get so wild people started leaving?

I don't check here nearly as often as I used to because of how slow the thread is and how often the only activity is blatant shitposting, so that might be it.

>>160641537
Goddamn that's a pretty plane

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>>160643921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z1Z-WEZZGM
>tfw deja vu during startup because of DCS' TF-51

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We're never going to see anything quite like this again, are we?

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>>160644180
Flying boats make little logistical sense when everything except the micky-mousiest private airports can operate a wide-body.

>tfw all of the Boeing 314s were scrapped
>tfw there's one barely airworthy Short Sunderland in the world, the other 5 or so are all static exhibits
>tfw there's two Martin Mars, one is already a static and the other one is at the end of it's financial rope

Maybe if there was a surge of public interest in the novelty of golden era aviation, but the practice of traveling by flight is so far removed from it's prestigious origins that the only things people see in planes are cramped seats, crying babies and the smell of re-circulated air.

fighters jets are so cool damn I want one

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>when it's 1983 and these are rolling through your lines but all you have are m113s

>>160648496
Yeah but the gavin is a comfier vehicle so it wins

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)))

dislike and subscribe plz
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when

Ok, I've a problem with the MiG-21. I got into a head-on merge(with me a few thousand meters below him) with a F-15 after I popped out of the mountains, and shot 2 R-3Rs from around 2 to 3 km away. And they both missed after swerving around.

The other guy didn't even move that much too. I switched to my R-60Ms and tried to kill him after I turned around but the fucker noticed me and killed me with an AIM-9.

What I'm trying to ask here is that are the R-3s supposed to be unable to hit anything?

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>>160643176
Normie, non-autistic leaf here.

I've just been busy with school and working on my car recently to be honest.

Once the Viggen is out I'll probably make some dank ops for it.

>>160649330
>the one dude who literally runs right past you

I N C R E D I B L E

>>160651605
Did you maintain lock? Do you have the replay and checked TACVIEW? Was it spoofed?

>>160651605
>What I'm trying to ask here is that are the R-3s supposed to be unable to hit anything?

Anything maneuvering, yes. And you say he didn't move much, but the fact that it was a head on approach amplifies the speed, and the angle change that the missiles would have to compensate for

>>160640823
>>160641537
>>160642123
Calm down guys I noticed.

>>160644180
It's a real shame, but the age of seaplanes ended somewhen during the interwar. Mostly because bigger airports and more powerful engines became a thing. So what >>160644180 said.

>>160653746
Does the R3-R use proportional intercept?

wtf USA is op nerf when

https://youtu.be/aBG_G678Trg

This entire channel is absolutely lit by the way.

What weapons does the F-5 get?

I've seen some early list by Belsimtek and it was mostly bombs with only the Aim-9s for air to air combat. Does it really get nothing else for that role? That makes it sound like it wouldn't feel all that different from the Sabre to fight with.

Should I just stick with the Mig for the weapon variety?

>>160656081
Go back to warthunder, you dont have the mentality for DCS

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>>160655620
Generation gaps in military equipment are pretty important. That was like if an F-5 had to fight an F-16.

>>160656190
>wasting slots on your team becuz muh sim
lol gramps

>>160656190
I know this thread has some serious autism at times but what was the issue with that question?

I'm just liking the A2A part of these games more than AG stuff so I'm curious what the Tiger gets.

>>160656616
It gets 4 variants of the AIM-9, along with some admittedly dank guns. That's all.

GAR-8: Same as Sabre's
AIM-9P: Trash desu
AIM-9P-5: Actually pretty gud.
CAP-9: Training missile.

>>160656616
>I only buy planes based on how good they are at helpinh me score points and win badged

warthunder plz go

>>160656938
>not playing to win
lmao this is for you http://www.sirlin.net/ptw/

>>160656765
Thanks. Will probably hold off until a sale or so then.

>>160656938
I have no clue where you got that impression from. But here's a (you) for your efforts.

>>160656616
>>160657087

Look kid, DCS is for people with real interest in aviation. You don't spend money here because you care about your online score. If you're going to buy the F-5 you do so because you want to learn about the F-5. Same reason you buy the UH-1, or FW-190, or any other module.

Stick to your shit thunder general. This place isn't for you.

>>160655620
>slavshit is shit

what's new

>>160657198
It's literally on sale right now you piece of shit

>>160657306
>he doesn't wait until modules are cheap
At this point I'm not gonna spend over 40 on a module that I may end up not liking.

>>160657246
Does such a simple question really trigger you? That I was curious about how the F-5 plays and what it would be primarily used for? That I wanted to learn about it before spending 40 or 50 dollars on it?

>>160657592
>admits he's only interested in planes based purely on their a2a performance
>gets mad when people call him out on it

>>160657686
>playing a2a is bad
What does it matter how I play my SP shit?

>>160657960
>this weak defense

If you really played sp you'd have never asked in the first place

>>160658168
Whatever makes you sleep at night.

>>160658271
>caught red handed
>"n-n-n-noo you"

>>160643176
It's just that ops don't get posted in the thread anymore, we still fly DCS & IL-2.

>>160656081
AIM-9s, dumb bombs, dumb rockets, LGBs but no self designation.

So aren't my activations supposed to refill over time? I'm in the process of reinstalling all my modules, and I checked my activations, but they don't seem to have restocked at all despite the fact that my last activation was half a year or so ago.

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826280021&ignorebbr=1

22% off Warthog, comes with free ball-crushers.

>>160659670
They restock after you use them all.

>>160659906
Alright, thanks.

shit thunder is bad

I have no clue what I'm doing wrong, but when pointing my MiG 21 radar at stuff it just refuses to show up on radar at all. Sometimes I'll get things that are really close for a moment. Is the radar just that bad or am I missing something?

Pointing it at things with icons on at the moment in the tutorials.

>>160663739
What altitude? MiG-21 radar gets fucked by ground clutter. If it's any consolation, I always found the tutorials ass too.

Try putting it on ground clutter filter mode and flying just below the target's altitude.

>>160663908
Put the ground filter and low speed filters on for most of the mission given that you're trailing stuff.

Even went behind some of the antonovs in the mission because they're bigger targets, but it only seems to work with the lock beam thing on a somewhat consistent basis.

Just odd that it wouldn't show anything when below and behind some targets 10NM out, even at low alt.

>>160664142
I wouldn't bother with the low speed filter, it's mainly for helicopters and genuinely low stuff afaik.

As much as I hate to say this... try flying upside down.

>>160659843
don't bring this shill shit here
thank you

>>160664245
>he isn't a fully paid member of the F-35IDF

>>160664193
Thanks.

If anything it's easier than I remember to use it, just a shame it's not that great and time limited.

On the topic of the MiG though, can you tell me what the three charges on the gun are for? I remember only that I have to press them to make it ready to fire, but after one charge is through I seem to not have any ammo anymore, is there a switch or is it just backup charges in case one fails?

>>160664328
The gun can jam, in which case it needs to be cleared & reloaded.

Jamming is rare but can sometimes happen when firing the gun in weird situations like negative G.

It's only happened to me once.

Hey /simg/ what's the fastest way to start shooting people down in DCS?
Just bought the game on steam and want to do some top gun shit xD

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Who here appreciates a good old fashioned gun kill?

>>160664694
Get FC3 and go onto the 104th servers, they're all shitters there

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>>160644940
Seaplanes are huge around here, general aviation-wise at least, but as airliners I agree, they're a bit useless.

The thing about it is, flying for me is all about the experience, and that's something that gets lost in those big metal tubes run by greedy corporate types. I'm wondering if something like a giant seaplane might get more love if it were less an airliner and more a cruise ship experience, like the Do-X was

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>>160609513
Some things never change

>>160665695
Does it even do anything?

>>160665178
>AI

>>160665724
It'll stop HEAT IIRC

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Can't wait to eat these.
What are you having for lunch /simg/?

>>160665695
Is that CONCRETE?

>>160667317
>Not toasting them.

>>160667317
It's no pizza rolls on a Dale Earnhardt Jr. plate but okay

>>160664142
The radar only shows 1.5 degrees down. No shit it wouldn't display barely anything below it.

>>160668625
What makes you think I was flying above targets?

>>160668982
he lacks reading comprehension

>>160667317
>butterdogs

>>160667526
Yes. that might be captured because Americans did that

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>>160659843

>>160665724
As armor, it'll stop HEAT
But it's purpose is mostly in engineering, ie. getting the vehicle out of a mud pit, or building a bridge across a wide ditch/creek, etc.

>>160680926
>>160681145

https://imgur.com/gallery/SIvFP

Imagine.
Imagine a cold war RTS with this art style.

>>160682118
Didn't the first Wargame look kinda like that?

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>>160682152

Still too realistic looking.

>>160682118
>Imagine a cold war RTS with this art style.

You mean with actual color?

>>160668982
Because Im retarded.

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>see this
what do

>>160686996
Rifle

(Key Mike)

(Key Mike)

>>160686996
Wait for overcast.

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>>160688136

>implying I'm not under the overcast

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I give DCS a lot of shit, but I am grateful that somehow this sexy mother fucker is a full fidelity module.

>>160689507
>A helo so shit not even the Russian army wanted it but they had to keep it in certain numbers because they wasted money on it

>>160690753
It's better than literally anything the americans made.

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>>160690753

This is 100% bait but I'm going to bite.

What is shit about the Ka-50?

It evolved into the Ka-52, which is a much more effective platform, so they decided to build more of those.

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>>160689507
>tfw intimidated by the complexity so I just meme around in my F-5

>tfw want to purchase the TM Warthog
>tfw poor

>>160691591

Don't be. The training missions are super hand holding, like the A-10 and MiG-21 (high lights switches, voice over, etc.)

To be honest,its not overly complicated.

If you can learn to fly and chuck vikhr's, you'll be ok.

The rest of the systems are pretty complex though, like the Abris and navigation shit. Data link isn't even too hard either and is super fucking neato to use with a wingman.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLLL1KxpYMA

When?

>>160692076
Not him but I never learned how to even fly that thing properly, I still feel like I'm always wobbling all around. I'm also sure I never managed to get autohover to do it's thing.

>>160692651

I fly on the flight director mode.

I don't understand how people fly without it. The auto pilot is so restrictive and fights you so hard. Only time I take it off is before auto hover, and when I'm following a course.

>>160692115
soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss2FyPoSmRY

>>160692871
Where's that goddamn Wellington at TF? Where's the He-100?

I'm not a sub sim guy, but have you guys seen this shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RxL7AcKsCQ

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>>160691005
Different guy, but the big complaint I've heard about the original Ka-50 is that it over-tasked its single pilot with both operating the weapons and flying the aircraft. There's also the problem with the coaxial rotor being such a nightmare to maintain that it relegates most of them to the status of hangar queen, and the Russkies now use the old Mi-24s and their fancy, new-fangled cousins the Mi-28s, in lieu of the Kamovs

>>160693051
Oh right that was that multiplayer thing. Looked like fun. Multicrew ships is an idea that I always liked.

There seems to be a bunch of these kind of games around these days, not all sims.

>>160691591
That's my personal biggest ding against the Mi-8: It's complexity. I get that there's two engines to turn on, an APU, an autopilot and various radios, and that the names of the equipment are different to what I'm used to, but do the weapons really need to be that in-depth to activate?

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>>160695665
I keep looking at BoS and thinking, "Yeah, I'll get that", then I see that BoM is another $50, they're asking $20 a plane for aircraft that don't have interactive cockpits, and there's currently only two maps available.

Eh, maybe if there's a Steam sale.

In the meantime, it's 1946.

If only the MP wasn't dead.

>>160696108
1946 is still a lot of fun. The DCG especially. Just wish there was an easy way to enable it for all nations and planes.

BoS will hopefully get a performance fix and graphics settings soon. That said there is something offputting about the visual style it has to me. RoF didn't have that issue for some reason so that might jist be me.

>>160665724
It was supposed to have worked well against anti tank rifles.

>>160696542
>AT rifles
Weren't they borderline useless at that point against even regular tank armour?

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>>160695620
>in lieu of the Kamovs
>140 Ka-52 and 32 Ka-52K ordered by defence ministry
They use both Kamovs and upgraded Mils.

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>>160696108
I think the cost of BOS and BOM are worth for having alive multiplayer and rather good models

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>>160696108
There's a bunch of smaller maps in addition to Stalingrad & Moscow + soon Kuban, you don't need the DLC to play the maps in multiplayer and BoM is 100% optional.

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>>160696108
Wait for BoK if you like, it's arriving slowly bit by bit over 2017, starting this December.

Will work as a standalone expansion and introduce flashy much needed features such as:

>Proper career mode
>DX11
>Easier way to host your own Coop missions
>Tacview support
etc etc

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/25072-announcing-battle-kuban-and-development-plan/

For now only the Jew supporter edition is available for preorder, regular version will appear eventually.
Though I cucked out and bought it anyway.

>>160694896
Holy shit I never saw the video of this, just the still of the F-18

>>160699938

Its a trailer for a joint German-Swiss airshow

>>160657246
>playing a flight combat sim
>don't wanting to do your best in combat to fulfill your autism dream of being a ace removing slavs.

I mean i see the problem with how he asked it, but i am pretty sure if you like military aviation in general you must be really interested in the combat aspect and how good the plane is in that regard since at the end it is normal for people wanting to win, more if you go full autismo/roleplay mode.

>>160698870
>Hs-129B2 as a collector pack aircraft
god damn, how the fuck they always manage to make an aircraft that i really love as collector exclusive. first the FW then the spagetti Folgore and now the flying Duck

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>>160703648
So that you jew out for it like I did ))))))

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>>160703648
Why havnt you got it yet goy? you want to fly a meme plane dont you?

>>160696338
never

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>>160703936

Okay this thread has gone to complete shit, I'm quitting!

>>160706140
Okay see you tomorrow.~

>>160703936
>ju52/3m
What? as collector plane? of what edition?

so the hornet manual is gonna be over 1000 pages, right?

>>160709225
Shouldn't be.

https://info.publicintelligence.net/F18-ABCD-000.pdf

>>160707307
Of nothing it was just made to fund Kubans dev team a bit more

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>>160709914

>>160709914
>>160710021

Okay but like for real the manuals are usually full of unnecessary fluff and shit you never need. Chuck's guides are innumerably better, the manuals are just there for if you really need something to read to kill some time.

>>160710183
Where the fuck do you think chuck gets his information from, huh?

>>160710261

From the manuals, I'm sure.

There's no reason to read the manual on any aircraft with a Chuck guide available for it, though. You'll just be reading twice as long for half the information.

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>>160704124

Question for discussion: fighters of the 1960s were alike in that their designers had unrealistic expectations for missiles and the power of their radars, leading to the deletion of guns. Do you think the heavy reliance on stealth and low-observable technology is the same?

>>160710827
It's certainly possible

>>160696108
They had a sale for BoS where you got everything for $40 or less, cant remember the exact price. They'll probably do it again around Christmas or when BoK gets released

>>160696108
Oh, and even if you only get BoS and not BoM you still play online the same, you still connect and fly with BoM content

>>160710827
No, as in the 60's there was no game changer called AWACS, JSTARS, RIVET JOINT that could detect aircraft/SAM from long ranges at any altitude.

>>160710827
I'd say no because it already kinda proved itself in the Gulf war, (at least in the air to ground realm) and there's not really any decisive capability that 4th gen fighters have that 5th gen fighters lack or had to sacrifice. The F-15 wouldn't even be a better fighter than a stealth-less F-22.

>>160710827
Reminder that that lack of guns wasn't the issue, it was poor training resulting in pilots releasing missiles out of parameters.

Once more advanced training filtered in gun-less Navy F-4s were scoring the same kill rates as gun-pod armed Air Force F-4s.

>>160711826
That was because the Naval F4s were firing AIM9s. Not sparrows. The failing AIM7 was the crux of the missile problem in Vietnam.

>>160712518
True, but my point was that AIM-9s alone were just as effective as AIM-9s + Guns.

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>>160712616
AIM-9's and guns, when possible, were used in conjuction together obviously, and were counted as one and the same kill in such circumstances. Of course considering they're both short range weapons who coincide with the same firing distances this shouldn't come as a shock. It was the sparrow that was the odd man out, and was the least reliable A2A weapon for the US

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How many levels of simulation are you on?

Like, flaming cliffs my dude.

You are a like a baby.

Watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOXFGnkYX5Y

>>160689507
would be the best module if we didn't get a version without an MWS.

>>160718536

If it had MWS and also could carry some sort of A-A missile, I'd cum.

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Could have bought any HOTAS on the market, and decided on this out of sheer respect. I'm coming off a long and painful Saitek binge. The last good stick I had was a TM PFCS, in 1996.

I play BMS and DCS, mainly... and some WWII sims.

Thoughts?

>>160720753
Stick and throttle are great, but I prefer saiteks pedals, ch's are quite narrow

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>>160720753
>Thoughts

It may look ugly but it's one of the best HOTASes on the market because of it's TANKlike durability and the support CH is willing to provide for it's costumers. Lots of buttons which don't have much travel in their actuation except for the analog microstick on the throttle, no two stage trigger, it's possible to use each device independently or to use the software to map them out in a way that it's recognized as one controller (very useful for BMS). The sensors they use don't have as high of a resolution as other devices I've used, but that doesn't affect anything.

The stick spring is not adjustable and, has a very wide throw, and might be a little on the floppy side but that hasn't been much of a bother to me. The pedals are rather narrow but it hasn't been a problem for me.

The fiberglass resin or whatever they use while injection molding their shit is actually a lot denser and harder than one would imagine and the stick doesn't have a light plasticky feel to it, but a tough, rugged one.

All in all, it's a fucking great HOTAS. One thing you should be aware of is clearly indicated on the pastebin:
>Beware that a few products could have been assembled in Mexico with poor quality and slipped through quality control resulting in shit quality (http://www.ch-hangar.com/forum/index.php/topic/8064-mexican-assembled-ch-beware/)

If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.

>>160721693
>>160722198

Thanks for the feedback.

I like how ugly they are... after having 3 Saitek setups (X45, Cyborg EVO, X52) fail in numerous ways, I've gotten sick of the form-over-function meme. I just want something sensible that works. Not to bash Saitek... their controllers have been great, and I haven't tried any of their high end stuff.

Was really leaning toward the Warthog at first, but seeing that old CH stuff looking exactly like it did in PC Gamer when I was a kid, I dunno... it's like it's been waiting for me all these years.

Think I'll be adding some weight to the bases, though. I hear they are a bit light. Either of you two find that to be true?

>>160723060
The base is definitely lighter than the stick but it doesn't move around in the slightest during use given the springs aren't stiff. I wouldn't add any weights to it, personally.

>>160719210
I would consign my countrymen to the abyssal depths if I could get it to shoot R-73s.

>tfw Thrustmaster Cougar is ded

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Will you use the Viggen's cruise missile to destroy carriers containing newbie F-18 pilots when the day arrives?

>>160728091
no because it will get easily shot down by sm-2s

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>>160728351
What about a swarm?

>>160728386
will get easily shot down by sm-2s

>>160728465
>>160728351
according to dangerous waters, it's absolute piece of shit

>>160729402
dangerous waters is wrong

the aegis system is literally unbeatable

>>160729445
AEGIS is 200% more betterer than Russia.

>>160656340

Also,

>training

ded

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>The only reason I ever tried the free version of DCS was because I heard it was going to have a Hornet in it in the near future
>Got FC3 a while ago for more plens
>Got the F-5E recently because fidelity without having to take a month off to learn all the systems
My balls are so blue they go to cocktail lounges on Thursday nights and play saxophone solos.

>>160665821
Actually, back during WW2 the US army conducted testing which found that the use of logs actually increased the penetration chance as HEAT technology back then wasn't optimized. The logs were a softer impact zone which allowed the molten jet of metal to form into its designed penetrating shape prior to contact with the main armour and would therefore be more efficient. The fuses on early HEAT rounds would cause the molten jet of metal to not fully form if it impacted directly onto the armour.

The source is somewhere in this series of videos if you don't believe me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oLY4FOrnjc

>>160742051
>>160742201
>World In Conflict
I like you

>>160742201

Fusbal T-72 cup when?

>>160741096
>My balls are so blue they go to cocktail lounges on Thursday nights and play saxophone solos.

My sides have been launched by catapult but stalled and crashed into the sea to be run over by the carrier from whence they came

>>160742051
>>160742201
WiC was such a good game
RIP

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Why is the MIG 21 so much fun to fly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKLRctxPY6k

Only 7 days until livestream boys!

>>160742501
I remember Modern Warfare mod for this game. Never played it but it looked fucking cool at the time.

>>160743545
>muh hands on
>muh real pilots plane

>>160743545
Is the radar still bugged in MP?