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Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone /hsg/.
The Steam version launched on October 28th.

Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh

Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor for the lazy or mentally handicapped. Open wide and enjoy responsibly:

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

Discarded: >>160531260
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Vampy-chan is an anal vampire!
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>when she sees your dick

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1479453094872.webm
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I did it for you Luna
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xth for can't decide what deck to re-roll into send help
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>>160555640
>English dub

KYS
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I want to fuck ____
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>>160555820
up the designer who made Dance of Death
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>>160555662
great work anon, Luna got to go on plenty of adventures thanks to you
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Proposed earth rune cards/changes

bronze 0/2 follower / 1 pp

earth rite 1 : +0/+1 and gains ward

earth rite 2 (consume 2 earth sigils, effect stacks with earth rite 1) : +0/+2 and gains last word : summon an earth essence

silver earth sigil amulet / 3 pp

countdown 2

fanfare : allied follower gains : during and until the end of the opponent's next turn, subtract 1 from any damage dealt to this follower.

last word : summon a random earth sigil amulet from your deck. its fanfare effect is activated;


gold spell / 5pp

target enemy follower cannot attack next turn

earth rite 2 : enemy followers in play with x or less attack cannot attack next turn

spellboost : increase x by 1

legendary amulet / 7pp

countdown 2

At the end of a player's turn transform a random follower/amulet of that player into an earth essence.

earth rite 3 : transform all enemy followers and amulets into earth essences.

Make earth rite effect optional.

There, earth rune fixed.
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>>160555697
midrange forest because it's fun, strong, and very rare at lower ranks so nobody can call you cancer.
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>>160555820
My daughterwife Luna
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>>160555820
Beast Dominator
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>opened over 200 packs
>not a single animated bellringer angel
>tfw
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>Forest player floods the board with fairies
>Drop Aurelia
>Forest player drops Tia on a board with 4 fairies to kill her
>Eve gets banished
>Concedes at 18 HP
Holy shit my sides have left orbit
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help
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>>160556210
>tfw it happened to me once

I didn't quit tho, I just spammed with "EEEHHH ?" emote and still won the match cause elf op LMAO
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>>160555820
Either of them. How come there's s little fanart of them, holy shit.
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Huh so you can't reroll on Steam? how fucked are you if you get shit packs on the beginning of the game?
My phone is from aztec civilization so no rerolling then linking with phone
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>>160556270
RUNE
U
N
E
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>>160556270
Blood desu
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>>160556351
>How fucked are you if you get shit packs on the beginning of the game
You're really not. It's just a little boost, you can't get fucked over no matter how unlucky you are. It just means you have to spend some extra time grinding before you can make expensive decks. There are some very strong budget options available so you could open no legendaries and still be completely fine.
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>>160556270
You bought Vampy for a reason
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>>160556351
Download Nox or w/e and reroll on there, then link to steam once you have a nice start.
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Can anyone help me make a meme deck for forest and blood that could help me win a quick unranked match for my dailies? These are my leggos
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>>160555554
>off-by-one kenobi
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>>160556351
Install an emulator such as LeapDroid, Nox, Andyroid, or Bluestacks Bluestacks is shit

Reroll on the emulator

Link the new rerolled account to your Steam (this removes your previous account)
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>>160556538
>blood

Just make lolibats, no legos required.
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Should I liquify pluto?
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>>160555820
Vampy-chan!
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>>160556538
Aggro bats is a cheap blood deck and also the strongest blood deck available.
For Forest...you better at least have some roaches, friend, or you're completely fucked
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>>160556613
I only have 2 vanias and i dont want to craft a third

>>160556640
pluto is very very situational, so unless you main shadow, you can dust her
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My exactly 200th game as Shadow was a midrange mirror match that also happened to put me into A1.

Wonderful!
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FFS. Rose Queen viable when?
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>>160556706
You don't need the whole package, just the basic framework. 2 vanias is fine.
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>>160556661
>that hint of pubic hair
That's pretty hot if he didn't look insane.
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A0 rank and up players.

Do you regret not sandbagging. Pros/whales do not apply.
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>>160556709
AND I FINALLY PULLED A LORD OF THE FLIES FROM MY 100 RUPIE REWARD! I HAD TO CRAFT THE OTHER TWO. HAHAHAH.
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>>160556706
You don't even need vanias and vampire fortresses to run a bat facerush deck.
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>>160556964
If you let it live for 10 turns you get another lord of the flies in your collection
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>>160556946
No, sandbagging is for degenerates
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What was the chain of cards that the art featured in Mentor's Teachings was originally part of in RoB?
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>>160556989
Why play that deck if you can't hear "Gooo bloodkin!"?
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>>160556946
No.
I'm not a retard so I can climb/do dailies just fine at A1
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>>160557140
>Using english voices
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>>160557140
>Dub
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>>160557212

>t. 1-5 wr
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>>160556270
kill me
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>>160555884

>>Legendary Amulet : Make your opponent unable to play followers.

You are fucking stupid.
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>>160557304
>1-5 wr

but those are sandbagger win rates
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>>160556783
Rose Queen has done some work in tournaments recently I believe. Basically you play PtP and stick two in there instead of fairy beasts for an extra win condition.
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>>160556946
i just do dailies in t2 honestly
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>>160557335
>thinking right is a bad choice in any way

You don't deserve to go higher than 2-3 with Vampy.
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>>160557304
I'll have you know that /svg/ is home to masters and above players exclusively with multiple MTG hof-ers, WSOG legends and world champion weightlifters
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>>160557304
>I'm a retard and I have to sandbang to achieve a 51% winrate
t. (You)
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>>160557417
Source?
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>>160557092
http://wiki.rageofbahamut.com/Trainee_Amelia
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>>160555554
Whoa, whoa, whoa, chill out
I just wanted my T2 ticket
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>>160557481
muh
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>>160557335
Beast Dominator is 100% fine in take two. Hell, I'd even call her strong. She's a big pile of stats above the curve and big threat when evolved. Your opponent will have to answer her or she'll get out of control. And obviously Bloody Mary is fantastic; even if you just play her as a vanilla minion with no synergy in hand your opponent will freak and try to kill her asap.
This "Beast Dominator is unplayable trash" thing has really gone too far. She's perfectly fine, she's just a little weak as a legendary.
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>>160557468
*wsop

Kill me.
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>>160557490
MEMED
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>>160556946

Well I have 3 decks (bats, banner and face dragon) so doing dailies is not that bad. If I get shadow I try to do arena and the rest is replaced.
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>>160557490
pixie mischief
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What do I sub in for Cerberus in aggro shadow if I'm missing 2 of them?
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>>160557716
You sub in banner of command
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Is the sound or animation when you tap on the buy-card-box any different depending on the rarity of your drawn cards? Like Granblue's rainbow-colored crystal showing that you have at least one SSR drawn.
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The saga continues
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>>160556527
>>160556580
Okay I will try to reroll on Nox
But as a heads up what are some signs of a good roll?
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>>160556946
I just don't get bothered by the dailies I can't complete. I have the deck I want and a few budget decks on the side, losing out on some progression is fine, I just want to get to Masters sooner.
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>>160557767
8-10 legendaries with animated legends and golds. High ratio of usable in-meta legendaries
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>>160557481
rune bros ww@
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>>160557767
6 or more legendaries, but less is fine if you have many in crafts you're interested in playing

Not too spread out into too many crafts, so you're closer to building 1 good deck

Go to https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/rerolling-guide
Reference it for good cards based on the crafts you're interested in

>>160557860
this advice is fine too if you have many hours to dedicate to rerolling or you're a very lucky person
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>>160557716
More Playfuls or Unleashers if you haven't maxed out on them in your build, and if you have, whatever you've got between Soulhungry Wraith, Charon, Cursed Soldiers, Demonic Strikes, Dance of Death.
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>>160556946
Does it count as whaling if I haven't bought crystals but have been playing since release?

I'm having fun with meme decks in A2, but at this point card limitations are not an issue for me either.
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Wait, what? Those aren't take two wins either.
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did she get possessed by the reflection in the mirror or what?
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>>160557981
It's really quick with a phone

And opening packs is really therapeutic
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>>160557487
Wasn't there some series of cards this belonged to that ended in her being corrupted? I remember there being an image of such, but searching "Amelia" on the DB doesn't give me the final stage I remembered seeing in whatever image it was.

And no, I'm not talking about Luciella; there was the image of her, yes, but there was also one with Amelia.
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>>160558165
The final image in that series is from an unrelated card, the actual follow up to Amelia being captured is a shot of her walking free triumphantly.

Final image is actually the last form of pic related.
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>>160558165
It was a bait image.

Amelia ends up becoming a holy sword saint.
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>>160558417
Who wears a leotard everywhere

Just sword saint things
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amelia a cute
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>>160555261
You can lift that Burden by joining us down the path of salvation.

On that note Xth for Haven, the second most fun craft.

>>160558417
Disappointing really.
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Never give up bros. wooo

heart of the cards the quickblader
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>>160558361
And what card is the art in your pic from?
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>>160555820
you like an animal
I want to feel you from the inside
I want to fuck you like an animal
My whole existance is flawed
You get me closer to GOD
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>>160558598
Gonna lift Eris' skirt and just slide it in.
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>>160557981
>>160557860
Would it be better if i try playing blind and find myself a comfortable craft to play first?
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How do I play midrange sword? I dump minions on curve but I'm not winning wtf. I'm going back to hearthstone.
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>>160558676
Get out of your basement Trent and give us another album.
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>tfw you will never adopt Luna and say you'll be her big brother
>tfw she won't trust you at first and slowly begin to warm up to you
>tfw you will never take her to fun places that she never was able to go to
>tfw you will never fix her doll when it gets torn and see her ecstatic face as she tells you she loves you
>tfw you will never tuck her into bed and give her a hug
>tfw she will never come into your room at night and ask to sleep with you because she's scared of her nightmares
>tfw you will never hear her labored breathing and feel her squirming against you
>tfw you will never ask her what's wrong and have her answer that she feels funny down there
>tfw you will never tell her about what's happening to her body and how to make it stop
>tfw you will never help her through the process of relieving herself because she's scared
>tfw you will never try to fight your masculine instincts to ravage her until you remember your role as her family
>tfw she will never have her first orgasm in your arms
>tfw you will never drift off to sleep together, cuddling together
I don't think I can keep going lads, she's waiting for me on the other side
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>>160558821
You have to set up some expectations for yourself first and foremost though

If you have any inclination to climb to let's say Masters/AA you'll definitely have an easier time with a in-meta deck like midrange sword, storm haven or tempo elf

If you're just looking to mess around you may regret it in the long term because aside from Haven decks the popular and powerful in-meta decks are often 5-6 legendaries minimum
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>>160558417
Altleader Amelia when?
I can't believe Latham got in over her. What the fuck.
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>>160558974
but she would kill you.
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>>160558974
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Does Liza counter Siegfried?
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>>160558598

while the amelia image is fake, there are at least 2 more other cards in RoB whose whole point is that they turn into demons

http://wiki.rageofbahamut.com/Dark_Knight_Luciella
http://wiki.rageofbahamut.com/Fallen_Ivurishia
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>>160558974
https://a.pomf.cat/fuwcef.mp3
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>>160558974
Lunafags are the worst
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>>160558821
Yes that's entirely reasonable, even playing the default decks can give you some idea of how each class works

It's not a perfect picture but it can help

Reading up about the current meta decks on gamepress can be useful as well
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/tier-list

Do note that some meta decks are cheap while others are very expensive, decks that are 27k or more vials can take 1-2 weeks+ to build depending on your reroll, cheaper decks you can get up and running even as soon as you start.
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I've got 10k vials burning a hole in my pocket, is aggro Dragon any fun? I only have one Forte but she is love and I want to play a deck that includes her
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>>160559060
I'll become strong enough to not get killed by her
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>>160559138

no but it stop the opponent from doing something like flame lizard + siegfried

it also doesn't stop YOUR EVIL DEEDS END HERE
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>>160558974
>you will never use her womb as an onahole

Why even live.
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>>160559138
Liza only prevents damage from spells and effects, which means stuff like Siegfried will still work.
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>>160559209
>is aggro Dragon any fun
Do you like playing aggro? If yes, then you'll find it fun. If no, then you won't.
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>>160559227
How the fuck do people still not get the quote right? it's YOUR EVIL DEEDS STOP NOW
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Okay everyone! Darkness Evolved was a dinging success!

Let's design our next expansion. What's the theme? And what broken piece of shit are we going to print?
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>>160559186
Not worse than vampedos.
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We should have gotten Amelia instead of mouthbreather Latham for the RoB leader.

Or if it had to be male, Gelt (the guy in every Amelia card).
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>Run up against a Shadowcraft deck that bursts me for 11 damage by running some Cerberus+Phantom Howl combo

Heh. Cute. Too bad Havencraft can heal for a truckload
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>>160559337
You're both wrong.
It's YOUR EVIL DEEDS END NOW
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>>160559209
No. It just abuses two weaknesses to the game's design

>the lack of viable neutral removal that deals with 2 health followers
>being able to evolve storm cards

It's literally just spamming unattackable followers until you can do three Forte in a row and hope you win.
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>>160558974
Where's the Lunafag that wanted to ERP (in private, off the board)
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>>160559227
>>160559337
It's "your evil deeds end now" senpaitachi
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>>160559320
I'm not really sure, my only experience with aggro is poor man's bannersword here and modern RDW in MTG, both of which were somewhat enjoyable but did not feature my wife. Guide me kind anon
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>Dragoncraft story stage 3
>Dragoncraft excels at mid-later game when it gets overflow
>Urias starts at 10 HP so his vengeance is active from the start
I'm getting my ass kicked by a chapter 3 mission, what the hell.
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About to craft 2 more Forte to have 3. Is aggro dragon good for a first deck?
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>>160559479
Well personally I find aggro insanely boring to play so it's really up to you
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>>160559414
Latham was a literal who; he's not even cool like the skeleton cuck or the old wizard. At least Amelia had a small fanbase.
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>>160556946
No, A0 is actually the best place to be if you want to run meme decks. The competition is enough such that you can actually see if your dumb deck is any good, but there are enough players doing the same thing as you so that winning is actually not that difficult.

I've been able to get at least 3 game win streaks in A0 with a bunch of different meme decks:
>Ambush sword
>Discard control dragon
>Laelia Haven
>Snowman Conjurer (without DS)
>Atomy
>Satan Elf

As long as you have some basic cards for each deck, you should not have too much problem getting dailies done in ranked with every class in A0. Of course, climbing gets much more difficult once you get to the upper reaches of A0 and lower A1 so expect no better than 50% win rates with bad decks, which is why I am still in A0 after like 200 games here.
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>>160559618
>Generic Knight of Blandness
Nigga, what the fuck do you want them to do with that design? This isn't Final Fantasy here.
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>>160558046
It takes time for the stats to update sometimes. You would think the total win counter would just add up the class wins but I guess they don't.
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>>160559351
Card draw and searching

Spell name here
4 cost
Draw cards until you've drawn 3 followers, then shuffle the non-followers you drew back into your deck.
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>>160559351
I hope they take bigger risks this time. Push some crazier deck archetypes.
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>>160559618
What the hell is right
He might have his bonus up but you both start at 1PP anyway
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>>160559861
Go the Urias route and remove part of his armor to show his abs. At least he'd be edgy that way.
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>>160558974
No wonder you fucks get the Deviant Heart flair
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>>160559414
Shame we couldn't have at least gotten Alexander or something if they just picked a random male Sword card that actually has a name out of a hat.
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>>160559351
I'm new to the game and haven't done any non-Arena multiplayer yet; what's the meme with this card? Do people always post it because it's just too powerful, because it's too weak, or just for the sake of it?
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Should I just craft triple elves? I'll prolly get the vials back when the next expac hits
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>>160560021
She's cute and her soundbyte is infectious, and she used to be played in quite a few decks so people heard her a lot.
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>>160557453
T-Thanks

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/6?hash=2.6.5zWmC.61Ldw.5_pF2.5_pFC.63dOg.67RX2.5_pzw.67SGY.5_pFM.63dPc.63dPc.63dQ4.63dQ4.63fqI.63fqc.63frO.63frO.63iGi.63e7E.5_rhS.63dP8.63iH0.659nE.63kj6.67Yro.63gZK.5_pFW.65922.5_rhI.67TzS
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>>160560008
Latham's design isn't even very good.
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>>160560291
You can just buy packs from the store and save 50 gold, friend
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>>160559861
He has the most boring art of all the playable characters by far, possibly the most boring art in the entire game, and of course he's the one they decide to showcase as the phone app's icon. He would have been better with a full helmet at the very least.
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>>160560008
I really hope the next expansion gives us some classic knight in shining armour guy.
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>>160560337
It was a ticket
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>>160560008
Literally anyone would have been better than Latham.
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>>160560291
That wasn't even that terrible of a deck. What were the other options besides Devil and Laura?
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>Don't draw the card I need to deal with my opponents win condition
>He emotespams
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>>160560291
His confidence in your mediocrity was misplaced.
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>>160560372
Gotta appeal to the western mobile market!
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>>160560372
I actually like his art a lot...
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I don't think that's RP speak.
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>>160557579
Weak and /boring/, I think is the more important factor. She's just a vanilla body with drawback. That's, like, silver-rarity tier in terms of mechanics. I know that's not how they should balance rarity (it should always be balanced around strength in draft modes but good luck getting card game devs to understand this) but it's seriously as plain as it could get.
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I like Rowen, I think he's cool
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>>160559479
Aggro dragon is typically red with a pile of low-cost flyers and 3x ball lightning, along with 3 tutors for exclusively digging out ball lightning, except it has flying on overflow and it slams for 1/3rd of your opponent's health evolved which is pretty retarded and unavoidable even if you expect it

It's heavily reliant on chipping in substantial pokes early and trying to get off a kill by a chain of ball lightnings ASAP

It's a very good ladder deck since games go quick

I'm going to call your dork waifu ball lightning from now on, sue me
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>>160560431
For what it's worth, I prefer Latham to Leonidas.
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>>160560395
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>>160558974
That sounds like a lot of work for some fucking

>>160559984
You Sword fucks should get Degenerate Dykes as your flair.
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>feeling bored
>meh i'm gonna just buy 2 packs from darkness
>tfw get levi,simulacrum and my second odin
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>>160560598
It's representative of how the soldier is losing his grip on reality as he grows unconscious. It's just too deep for you.
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>>160560506
I turned opponents emotes off a long time ago and sometimes push the "hello" emote turn 1 on the off chance that they're the type to do that
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>>160560021
she also does 0 damage and in shadowverse you can attack with 0 attack followers, it's adorable
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>>160560598
God I want to fuck Labyrinth Devil. Her curly hair just adds to the appeal
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>Climbing in ranked
>Playing Shadowcraft
>Have to play against 6 haven decks in a row

Jesus.
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>>160560693
I love Luna, I don't want to do anything that would hurt her
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>>160560690
She looks like a coal stove
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>>160560615
>She's just a vanilla body
She's twice above curve.

>>160560617
He's fine. It's just weebs here only like cute girls.
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>>160560657
>pile of low-cost flyers
It has 3
Also it's not exactly flying, they can't go through ward.

But none of you shitters ever consider running wards.
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>>160560736
>Put Medusa's Gaze on Bellringer
>She destroys anything and lives to tell the tale
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>>160560479
Vampiric fortress and Diabolic drain
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>>160560663
Okay, maybe not literally. They're both mouthbreathers though.

>>160560395
GBF leaders next xpac?
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>>160560690
I'd rather Vira or Naru for Sword. Maybe even Kat but she's boring as fuck so I guess not.
My waifu is Rosamia but I doubt we'll ever see her, let alone as a leader for Sword. I fully expect Cog to take that role from Rune, where I'd expect her to fit in.
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>>160559351
Please give dragon actual card draw and stop pushing the discard meme
I want a dragon deck to enter T1 or 2 that's not a face deck.
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>>160559351
Ding dong a cutie!
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And on we go...
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>>160559351
A neutral legendary version of Ding Dong
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>>160560817
>She's twice above curve
How does that take away from what I said? I wasn't calling her bad for T2. I was saying it's boring. There's no excitement factor from pulling a legend and seeing it's just a hunk of stats. That's something you'd expect from a silver- or bronze-rarity card.
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>turn 3 Ancient Elf

BALANCED
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>>160560657
Ah, that makes the deck much more clear, thank you. Actually, I'd forgotten that I crafted up a Ball Lightning meme deck years ago when I still played kitchen table, and it was almost exactly like Drag Race (or so it seems).

Is there a good list for the deck anywhere? I've seen a few on some tier sites but I don't know if they're trustworthy
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>>160560836
They're the stars of that deck at least in the masters meta since it's a bunch of midrange elves/royals and it outraces dshift and storm

I don't even know what to describe ward as other than taunt in HS to the masses anyway. But yeah they're usually the stars of that deck because they force the game into a race which dragon inevitably wins with ball lightning
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>>160561069
Otohime is just a hunk of stats and everyone is either rock hard or furious over her
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>>160561089
>2/3 with taunt
Doesn't sound that good senpai
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>>160561000
Nice Trips!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlr_zBGzi_Y
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>tfw your wincon is at the bottom of the deck
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>>160559351
We feel like Forest hasn't been winning as much as we'd like. Arisa, after all, is the main girl, and we need to treat her as such.

We feel that Forest lacks identity aside from "play a bunch of stupid bullshit and then return it to your hand and do it again", and after much deliberation, we decided to make randomness a key element in Forest's playstyle. This move takes inspiration from another popular card game in the West that is sure to win over many overseas fans.

Now, we present to you a preview of some of the upcoming cards. We hope you look forward to the next patch!

>5/1/1 "Fanfare: Banish a random enemy follower or amulet." > 5/1/1 "Evolve: Banish a random enemy follower or amulet."
>6/6/6 "Can't Attack. At the end of your turn, deal 6 damage to a random enemy."
>1/2/1 "Last Words: Deal 2 damage to a random enemy leader."
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I just got memed on by a Deathly Tyrant deck...
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>>160561176
>2/3
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>>160561169
>Otohime is just a hunk of stats
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>>160561069
Rarity is weird in this game.
Like Alucard is an interesting control card. And it's silver. Meanwhile Stratagem with is just basic card draw, which sucks mind you, is gold.
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>>160561176
That's a fucking great turn 3 minion what are you talking about? 2/3 is the best baseline 3pp stats and ward is a very relevant ability
This is why ancient elf is fucking broken, she's already fine just playing vanilla and the degeneracy she allows is nuts
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>>160561176

It bounces back whatever he had on board and gains +1/+1
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>>160561279
>Go first
>Keep Angelic barrage
>Watch 2/3 Elf come out on turn 3
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>>160561234
its not a joke against control decks. That deck WILL kill you if you give it time.

Flops to aggro though unless they get the god draw.
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>>160561069
She's not a vanilla body.
A vanilla body is something like maid fencer.
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>>160561226
I feel that a card with Rag's effect would be pretty bad in Shadowverse for not being able to evolve-trade
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>>160560751
https://a.pomf.cat/gbpifc.mp3
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>>160560948
Rosamia is actually pretty likely (haven?) since she already got a RoB illustration.
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>>160561169
It's a hunk of stats divided into 5 bodies in a faction that benefits from strong board states.

I'll concede it's not interesting, though, no. I agree on those terms but I'll also suggest people like her because she's /good/ moreso than because she's mechanically fun. Also because she's cute. Then everyone talks non-stop about Beast Dominator despite her rarely seeing play because she's lewd as hell. If she was a common card in Blood decks then you better believe we'd see a lot more talk about her.
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>forest is op meme
>kills rosetta with odin
>next turn kills tia with fafnir
I would have lost if I didn't topdeck a roach. if forest is so good how come I'm almost losing to some trash ramp dragon deck that didn't even have siegfried?
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>>160561368
>How does that take away from what I said?
I beat it all the time as Haven, actually. Between my heals and wards, they can never actually kill me and when they do pop their meme combo, they go flaccid while I'm still stabilized.
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>>160561460
>Rose Queen
found your problem
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>>160559351
>>160561000
>>160561193
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goiVNxeX624
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>Erika's so fucking adorable when she's with the Princess but we never get to see that side of her ingame because she's always full stoic mode during matches.
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>>160561515
but according to shadowverse general ancient elf and roach are op so I should be winning ez against some tard who thought he could retrigger fafnir's fanfare with urd.
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>>160561450
Oh man what happened to her face?
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Those are some hot memes.
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>>160561508
True shit. Just watch them if they drop 2 cerberus, they can get the OTK
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>>160557468
>taking a bath with that one in the center
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>>160561069
All the weird johnny cards are in silver and gold, legendaries are usually just solid cards with a flavor to them. That way people won't be as likely to regret pulling one.
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>>160561630
It's just a mask
R > SSR >>>> SR so I'm not even particularly happy to see that she has her own card
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>>160561631
>fill entire board with useless amulets
>can't play anything

Why would someone do this?
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>>160561618
Just because elf and roach are good doesn't mean you can stick RQ and pretend it's a top tier deck.
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>>160561618
Nah that's just stupid, you shouldn't listen to people whining like that. Ancient Elf is ridiculously good at making your early game rock solid, and roach is an awesome finisher. They very rarely carry games on their own. Tempo just works because it's a complete package - amazing early game, amazing mid-game, and different ways to finish. PtP's in a similar boat. Rose Queen's not in either of those packages.
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>>160561631
have you ever heard of cropping an image, anon?
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>>160561723
Hell, 1 Cerberus and then that janky Ethereal Form kills through wards.
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>>160561723
I usually kill them by then since 2x Cerb + Tyrant is slow.
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>>160561803
It's a trap right? Right?
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>>160561803
It's fine, she has TWO illustrations!
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>>160561631
>turn 7
>only one used evolve the whole game
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>in D1
>there is a shitload of people with meta decks with a bunch of gold & legendary

Fuxing bullshit m8

Cant a nigga play with someone with a normal deck
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>>160561920
Don't let the ugly boyshorts fool you

>>160561952
BASED
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>Draw shit against Dshift
>They don't draw Dshift or Merlin in the first 20~ cards
Goddamn. It must suck going to turn 10 and not hitting the combo.
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>>160561881
>going out of my way to crop a steam screenshot just to shitpost on 4chan
What's even the point?
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>>160562036
Oh that's a breastplate alright

Nice jakigan tho, nerd
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Is there a full Liquify guide somewhere? Something that talks about bronze and silver cards too.

I just started playing this from HS and opened a LOT of cards...
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>win 4 in arena
>final match is against a sword
>you go first
How does this consistently happen? Fuck sword.
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>>160561998
>shitty
>normal

Just banner meme like everyone else
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>>160561864
>>160561872
but everyone says elf and roach need to be nerfed because they're so op. I have all the cards that make forest good so how come my deck isn't top tier?
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>>160562141
read the OP
ard rarites/values:
Basic: Common
Bronze: Uncommon
Silver: Rare
Gold: Epic
Legendary: Legendary (appears rainbow-colored)
Animated: Golden (animated illustration, minus HS's gold foil)
Vials: Arcane Dust
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>>160562084
>armor

This is why healsluts are a thing
She can't wait to worship some cock
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>>160562146
My last 5-0 was sword mirror going 1st. None of us drew floral cancer turn 4 tho. Latham did all the work, hidden by 2/1 assassin gurl and then shielded by mirage defender
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>>160561460
>>160562218
>win because of roach
>if roach is so good how come my deck is so shit?
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>>160562227
I think you missed his question
He wants to know which cards are crap
>>160562141

Don't liquefy any bronze/silver anon, there's no point.
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>>160562084
my dick just ejected
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Make Ancient Elf a 4 mana 3/4 with ward and the same effect.

Is she fixed?
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>Forced to win every arena match by turn 9 because everbody is offered Olivia

fun game tbqh
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>>160560008
god alexander just shouting everythign would have been great, Leonidas would have been cool too
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>>160562218
Rose Queen is super heavy and you should just ditch her. Two Cynthias would go much farther. I don't like Will of the Forest in a pure tempo deck, and I also don't play Glimmering Wings or Pixie Mischief. Elf Girl Liza is great for protecting your board against certain crafts to finish with cards like Blessed Fairy Dancer/Wind God/Cynthia. Or you could switch out a few for Altered Fate and PtP.
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>>160562457
No, according to >>160561618 She's shit because she doesn't instawin games for him.
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>>160562208
Who are you quoting?
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>>160562146
My last 2 5-0s were carried by turn 4 banneret in preparation for their turn 4 behind a lancer usually

I've not been able to draft a fencer in a million fucking runs
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>>160562218
Your deck is a bit lopsided here.
Will of the Forest and Rose Queen point more towards control; meanwhile Dance of Death and Pixie Mischief point towards aggro/combo forest.
Honestly i'd just ditch DoD all together, Forest isn't really the home for it, and then decide whether or not you want to Rose Queen people or tempo people out.
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Are there any high level dragon players here?
When do you muligan for/ play ivory?

I started to toss them away in the muligan and not play the until overflow unless going against elf/sword/blood.

Does it depend on your deck curve and how fast you run out of steam?
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>>160562146
I just went 1st 4/5 games in my last arena.
I won 4-1 because I got really unlucky one game and my opponent had the turn 5 Olivia.
Also, my last 5-0 I fought 4 Swords in a row.
In summary, get good.
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I have 1490 gold after clearing elite AIs, fuck the Erika AI, cunt pulling all the perfect cards, and I want to buy Forte.

Y/N?
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>>160562740
Call your dick
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>>160562740
Yes
Always go with the dork
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no because dragoncraft is shit
better use them to draw instead,that's like 14 packs right there
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>>160562728
>Turn 5 Olivia
Whoops.
Turn 9 Olivia obviously.
Imagine what a shitshow this game would be if Olivia cost 5.
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>>160562740
Buy a good taste in waifus instead.
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Reminder that Game AI team cup stream starts in 3 hours.
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Is 2x Ancient Elf and 2x Tia enough for Forest?
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>>160558974
>ill never be this autistic
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>>160562667
Don't play ramp
Face dragon is can be bullshit with draws
Mid range is one of my highest win rate decks
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>>160562864
>she will never crush your balls as you ejaculate for the last time in your life.
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>>160562987
get help
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>>160562084
>long hair
>dat expression
>mouthpussy
>perfect cleavage for reverse paizuri
>dat navel
>dem fucking legs for sumata
>dem fucking hips
>bodystocking
I could cut diamond katanas with my boner right now, holy fucking shit.
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>>160562415
if I have all the tier 1 cards I should be crushing some tier 4 junk deck, not barely winning because of a lucky topdeck. it's almost like forest is actually only strong because of the win conditions and replacing them instantly drops the craft into meme tier even when 90% of the rest of the deck is identical.

>>160562526
right now my plan is to cut glimmering wings for 2 cynthias and try some kind of hybrid game plan. this is like the 3rd revision I've gone through trying to make the deck not shit.

>>160562616
I just put the dance of deaths in because I was having a problem with people evolving something big and having no way to deal with it.
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>>160562956
I play midrange.
But I have a very tight curve because dragon card draw is bullshit.
So I don't know if the 2-3 face damage the ivory will do is worth the card cycle he can give you later.

My deck is this
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/4?hash=1.4.62sZ2.62sZ2.62sZ2.62sac.62sac.62sac.5_38w.5_38w.5_38w.61O4K.61O4K.62sZM.62sZM.62v0O.62v0O.62v0O.5_4sI.5_4sI.5_4sI.62u_S.62u_S.62u_m.62u_m.66j8S.66j8S.66hRE.66hRE.62sZ-.62sZ-.62sZ-.5_2QW.5_2QW.62zty.62zty.5_4sS.62v0E.62zu6.62zu6.65GMo.62xRi
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>>160562740
packs or a short chuuni waifu who always tries her best

I think the choice is obvious
>>
>against rune in TT
>he gets pascal, calamitous curse, erasmus, 2 gauntlet healers and 2 alchemists
Just fuck me, jesus
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>>160562146
Word I was playing Haven with Odin and Seraph just straight dumpstered 3 shadows in a row even won 2/4 games with Seraph then the last match was Sword who had 2 Floral's in their first 8/9 cards and played everything on curve
>>
Why is losing so fucking frustrating in this game ? I feel like every lost I have is not my fault. I feel like I played optimally everytimes, but there was just no plays that would have let me win. The whole game just feel like a coin flip. It's stupid. I'm thinking about dropping it. Thanks for listening to my blog.
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>>160563103
>>160562956

Except I replaced Shenlong with a second dread and the grim reapers with transmogrified drakes
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>>160563061
>if I have all the tier 1 cards I should be crushing some tier 4 junk deck
Having a top tier deck doesn't mean you're going to automatically 20-0 everything below tier 2.
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>>160563052
Only Vampy can help me by stomping on my dick
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>>160563205
Wrong thread /hsg/ is that way
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Shadowverse more like Elanaverse.
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>>160563205
Maybe your deck is simply shit.
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>>160562987
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>>160563205
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>>160563205
git gud or are you actually talking about a comeback with a rng card like ragnaros,sylvanas or yogg?
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>>160563118
>STANDING BLOWJOBS
>BLOWJOB HANDLES
DORK
O
R
K
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>>160563205
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3x Ancient elf, 1x Tia or 2x Ancient elf, 2x Tia?

Can't afford 3 of each just yet
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>>160563359
https://u.nya.is/qroixa.mp3
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>>160563692
Kill yourself, dubfag.
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>New Expansion
>all classes gets multiple ways to deal with Amulets
>Elana's cards don't get nerfed per se and haven shitters don't get to vial their now shit deck for full price
I can only dream
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>>160563659
3 elf is way more gamebreaking than tia

Could try fairy-changg > canopy > tia combo instead. That was the big thing during the start of the expansion
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>Click on card to drag to field
>Even holding down the card you want all the way, if your mouse moves too far to the left (possibly right?) it will grab that card instead
>Accidentally play wrong card
>Gets even worse with more cards in your hand
When will they fix the steam UI?
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>Create new dragon deck
>Didn't buy Forte with gold when I had extra gold
>Now forced to play as Mr. Generic McDragon Guy for about a week while I save my gold.
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>>160563793
>not playing on your phone bundled up in bed
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>>160563205
Nut up faggot my winrate is probably around 30% because I don't have a single proper deck and I still play
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>>160563692
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>>160562464
>Go first
>Only play Olivia on turn 11 for something to do
Sure has its moments.

>>160562740
When you're starting out and have a big front-load is always the best time to buy heroes, yes. 100-150 is easier to hit every day or two where 500 will take a little restraint, later on.
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>>160563659
Tia is value, but Ancient Elf is what wins game. You should have a playset of them before building anything else.
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>>160563815
You deserve it for not worshiping the dork
I hope you learned your lesson.
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>>160563732
>New Expansion
>Banish is now available to every class except Shadow
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>>160563815
>Mis-using the word generic
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>>160563825
How will you be able to simultaneously check on your tabs while waiting for Havencraft to end their turn if you do that?
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I've been playing since the Steam release and am almost to Rank C0. Should I keep on going into that bracket that I hear permanently adjusts your matchmaking, sandbag to stay in D while still accumulating score, or just switch to Unranked?

I was hoping to go for the exclusive cosmetic score rewards, but perhaps it's not worth it....
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>>160563815
But he's so nice, Sugita just makes it better.
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>>160564104
C is still trash ranks.
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>>160563103
Dragonewt scholars x3
Angelic sniper x3 combo with Siegfried. Even it's dead card later on. It's still valuable since you can recycle through discard.
Dragonewt fist x3
Neptune x3 shit it's crazy with musharu
Wyvern x3
Dragon counsel x3
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>People play their shitty aggro decks for free wins and fast games.
>Purposefully take the max turn length every turn.
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Is Bloody Mary a meme card?
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>>160564253
Its a good card. Control blood has some issue now though.
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>>160564214
>Being this anal-pained that you can't beat aggro
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>>160564253
I got really fucked one time with a Bloody Mary -> Dire Bond once. Didn't kill me outright but that was a game winning combo. Doesn't hurt that the body itself is well statted
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>>160564253
No she's ridiculously strong. She's just trapped in an underpowered deck/class.
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>>160563970
Y-YAMEROOO!
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>>160564192
That's interesting.
I don't have the vials to make that.

I run fire lizard instead of snipes and dragonewt fist seems like a good way to run out of cards.

I do want Wyverns though but I'm going to wait for them.
Do you not run ivory at all then?
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So the decent cheap decks out there are Banned Swordcraft and Aggro Bloodcraft, correct?
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>switch to japanese audio
>mordecai doesn't sound like a sarcastic asshole anymore
>forte isn't infected with forver-on-her-period syndrome
>that necromancer kid doesn't have that lunatic vibe
>the dragon dude actually seems like an experienced troop leader rather than some emo teen

why the fuck wasn't this the default setting?
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>>160564603
>that necromancer kid doesn't have that lunatic vibe
Playful necromancer is cute as fuck.
I wonder who her Obaa-san is
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>>160564603
>Mordecai not being a sarcastic asshole
>Good
????
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Whats PtP and why does the snowman say, "I feel so slutty" when it dies?
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>>160564603
but at what cost
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>>160564603
>Liking Japanese Morde over Eng Morde

Your shit taste is phenomenal.
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>>160564770
This is the reason I will never switch to Japanese
I find the goofy voices overall endearing and think people who prefer Japanese are no fun
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>>160564591

Yes, after them there is face dragon and the haven decks
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>>160564192
Also what do you run for 5 drops?
Queen serpents? Or Transmorgified Wyrms?
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I was clenching tight the entire time.
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>>160564253
It's alright.
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>>160564863
I'm probably leaving my mobile version on English the next time a big patch that undoes the Jap patch comes around so I can experience both on a regular enough basis.
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>play against dragon in arena
>telegraphed that siegfred from miles away
>keep my evolved followers unharmed as I made bad trade to keep his board empty
>he dropped mr fred killing nothing when I was about to lethal him

Is there any better feel?
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>>160564971
Why is Killer Devil so smug?
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Who else here has the advanced animations turned off? I had a problem with not being able to take my full turn because the timer ran out, and the animations kept me from doing everything I wanted
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>>160564971
>phoenix roost
I don't think that counts anon
He was clearly seeking death
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>When you run into a perfectly constructed Elana deck in fucking Take Two

Nowhere is safe.
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>>160564168
I'm in c0 now because I only play ranked when I get a mission for it and it's like 40% bats and 40% haven.
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>>160564863
>>160564770
Honestly, aside from Arisa's voice which I find annoying, the english dub is perfectly fine. People who say the japanese dub is "better" are just weebs being weebs.

>inb4 asshurt weeb responses
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>>160564559
You don't necessarily have to use dragonewt at all, but the option is
>you lose the board against zoo deck and you need to contest board
>4-6 turn whereas the evolution war takes place. Implying you don't want use evo orb point for favorable trade.

I use to run goblin plus ivory idk goblin is too underwhelming desu
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>>160564735
he says "I feel slushy", you pervert
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I'm about to deck out as Shadow against Elana, send help.
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Which control deck is the most fun?
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>>160563732
Pretty much how it'll go. I get they wanted to make Haven stronger and more relevant but they may have overshot budget and options for interacting with the amulets are awful, so that's going to be how things swing back.

>>160564104
It's silly how score progress doesn't scale at all with rank, yet it's very easy to rank up with shit decks until you're stuck on a new tier of people with much fuller decks. If you're not confident or interested in ranking, you won't gain anything from it, but you're not going to get monthly score progress from unranked, either.
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>>160565247
ptp rune and forest
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I hate how hard it is to play proactively in this game. It makes a lot of control decks completely unrewarding. If I see they are aggro, what can I do? I just eat storm damage every turn while trying to keep their board clear, which doesn't matter because their followers do instant damage.

If I try to proactively play with wards, they immediately get destroyed by Dance of Death AND I take damage, ten percent of my max health. Elana can make anti-aggro control work because the amulet enables all the terrible healing cards to actually have value.

Only non Elana control deck that works are all cycle OTK decks. Even the modern Elana decks are pushing more toward Seraph because classes like Rune instant win against control.

When the only two things that are viable are token aggro and OTK control, you know you have a shitty meta. I used to defend the meta in this game because I thought it was reasonably balanced. I still think that's the case, but the problem is that what is viable is all extremely uninteresting and allows for little variety in play.
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>>160565229
LEAVE DIS TUH MAE
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>>160565242
What about PtP? Does it stand for prime time pussy?
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jp forte va >
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>>160565230
I find that 1 drops just don't matter vs midrange or control.
You're not really racing face damage for either player, you're building the board to kill him later.
I keep the ivory's in my deck because I can cycle them.

I think I might try fists though.
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>>160564735
S O U R C E
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>>160565032
bouncing beastcall 3 turns in a row
petrifying elana twice
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>>160564890
I don't run 5 drops t2b since I run double Dragon warrior and Siegfried.
Remember you can trade DW into two bodies.
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>>160565434
Exception, not the norm.

I want whoever let that voice into the game to choke on 50 dicks though.
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>>160565229
Normalfag detected.
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>>160565473
Penis to Pussy
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>>160565473
Pussy to Pussy
It's a yuri themed card
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Setting up the beacon to let them know they're dead next turn if they dont have a destroy amulet or ward
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>>160565473
I'll give you a hint: it's a 4-mana card
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Show me another more epic entry quote.

https://a.pomf.cat/cpcbkg.mp3

Protip: You can't
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>>160564603
Forte sounds way too mild in the Japanese version
How am I supposed to be motivated without the dork yelling at me?
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>>160565781
I love andras so much
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>>160565634
Dumbass Weeb detected.
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>>160565473
do NOT lewd the zetsubou girls!
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>>160565348
you mean you can't play reactively. all of these games are like that because you can't do anything when it's not your turn.
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>>160565348
You play proactively with designing your deck and mulligans.
Also how you play the cards you have can change.
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>>160565829
Check the site you're currently on.
Check the thread you're in.
Check the game you're playing.
Back to >>>/r/eddit
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>>160565848
The longer I stare at this
The more it creeps me out.
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>>160565569
Yeah I run all three dragon warriors.
Hitting them on turn 4/5 is super important and they can help later as well.
The olivia helps keep them relevant. I'm even thinking of putting a second one if I ever get one.
zirnitra i also an amazing evolve board flood.
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>>160565348
Play Shadow.

Also the game isn't even a year old yet, the biggest mystery is how the meta hasn't been funneled entirely into two optimized decks made from the tiny card pool at this point.

I mean there's gotta be like, at least three of them.
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>>160565501
No, it's synergize with Dragonewt Scholars. For instance, you actually discard the useless cards at late game and draws you a something like forte.
Not to mention, Dragonewt Scholars actually a bait which is open up for Forte, like removal spell and dance of dead.
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>>160565691
>havenshitters running wards
They don't know what that is
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i've literally had 9 heavencraft opponents in a row, is this the only class people play?
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>>160566136
They run dog.
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>>160566136
>>160566173
some run that stupid amulet that gives ward to 4-defense followers, too

and temple defender, fuck that card
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>>160565961
It's a good manga.
>>160566169
It's one of the cheaper and easier decks.
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>>160566075
But do you play them then? If you want to discard them you have to keep them in hand.
At which point they might as well be anything else.
So do you actually play 1 drops on turn 1 against midrange/control who do not run tokens?
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>>160566169
just run dshift and get free wins
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>>160566075
So basically midrange face forte hybrid?
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>>160565953
>He thinks everyone on here is much of a mindless weebshit he is
Unless you speak Japanese then your claiming that any version sounds better than the other is laughable, and I stand by my previous assertion that you're a dumbass.
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>>160566169

It's killing the game for me
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Does anyone have that Rhinoceroach damage chart?
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Which of these two steaming piles of shit should I go for?
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>>160566169
Cheap and top tier. Elves are better but you need at least 5 leggos and 5+ golds compare to haven's only several gold mandatory decks
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>>160565348
and before people just say I'm whining, yes no shit I'm angry at the state of the game, but I don't think it has to be this way.

I hate how just like in Hearthstone all you can do is try to play catchup against aggro or sit there and be able to do nothing as control otks cycle through their deck and remove your cards efficiently.

No hand destruction, no trap cards, not enough neutral followers that negate spells or cant be traded with, etc...

And just like in HS the aggressive cards are valued higher. They have better stats for what they are trying to do. Something like Otohime has such retarded value bloat compared to defensive cards. The storm cards do too. How is a 3 mana 2/2 with storm or a 2 mana 2/1 with storm at all reasonable? If a 1 mana 1/1 can have storm then where is the 1 mana ward?

Why isn't there a 5 mana neutral removal that heals you for two or even four afterward? There's no armor in this game and the few neutral healers there are are mediocre so what are they so afraid of? The reason why Elana works even if you have full health is because waiting to heal is even shittier than just healing.

Look at the storm cards. Seriously.

>alvida's command
>6 mana summon a 3/2 and a 2/3
>one with ward and one with storm

This has SO much value to it. Earth Rune can do similar things with wards, but they require earth sigils to do and still don't have the immediate storm/rush value that comes from it.

It's insane trying to play a non OTK control and dealing with Blood, Sword, and Dragon sending high damage storm turn after turn, using Dance of Death anytime you try to put a ward down.

What do you do? What can you do against Forte running down to your face with 5 or 7 damage? You have 20 max health.

It's why a complete bullshit card like Saber exists. That card to me just shows we are going down Hearthstone's path where defensive cards will have to constantly get power creeped to try to compensate for how strong aggro is.
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>>160566483
Probably the one with a very good card in it
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>>160566420
>Unless you speak Japanese
I do.
What now? The English version is pretty much a rewrite, completely fucking up the characters.
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>>160566331
>switch to rune
>blood
>sword
>blood
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>>160566169
I'd take Haven any day over Sword or Rune.

All I come across in ranked right now is Rune, which means I"m not allowed to play Control because they all instant lose to Rune with no hope of winning.

At least Haven runs three different styles of deck all with their own weaknesses. You can queue into Haven and have a chance (unless your Shadow), but an entire playstyle is eradicated by the presence of Rune.

My favorite part is that whenever I switch to aggro to try to deal with them, all I see are Sword.
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>>160566505
>If a 1 mana 1/1 can have storm then where is the 1 mana ward?
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>>160566597
in rune's defense, their entire playstyle is eradicated by aggro

rune needs a real tempo deck and actual good followers
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>>160566597
its literally an auto loss for shadow like actually borderline impossible to win, heaven needs some re-balancing I think
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>>160566273
Drops it like vanilla token on turn1. Also Dragonewt Scholars only discards the lowest mana card.
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>>160566691
I legit had no idea this card existed. A card like this should just be a neutral. Hell, I'd love to see a 0/2 ward neutral for 1 mana.
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>>160566550
>Caring about the story
>Caring about the characters

Also, that's not a dub issue, that's a writing issue. It also depends on how fluent you are in Japanese. A lot of Asians think Nicolas Cage is an amazing actor, even though he's shit. That's because they have no bearing on things like inflections and accents
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>>160566743
dingdong isn't enough?
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>>160560372
Why does he remind me of that JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP meme?
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>>160566746
While I agree with you that what he brought up is a problem with the script more than the voicing, if you don't care about the characters, what the fuck is the point of discussing which dub is better to begin with?
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>>160566712
Doesn't Earth Rite destroy aggro?
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>>160566597
This is one of the reasons I absolutely hate the ranked ladder system for card games like this. It's just fundamentally flawed.
Batch match-ups are so hard to overcome to the point where it's essentially just luck; without sideboards, queueing into a particularly bad match is just an auto-loss unless your opponent bricks. The DShift v Control thing is a huge example of this, Control basically has no hope. But at the same time, DShift v Aggro is awful in DShift's favor. And aggro is super popular because it's fast and can steal wins from every deck since the other deck has to draw their anti-aggro cards in the first few turns or they just get run over.
In MTG tournaments, games are 2 out of 3 with sideboards, meaning you can actually fight back against bad match-ups and you also don't automatically lose a game just because you got unlucky, you still have another chance. I wish HS didn't set such a shitty precedent and card games had 2 out of 3s with sideboards for ladder instead of just the single match. It's just a much better system for competitive games in general, and especially for card games.
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>>160566824
His shit is all fucked.
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>>160566743
Only one class has a 1 cost 1/1 storm and one class has a 1 cost 1/1 ward. They aren't going to make neutral cards that tech against every class in the game.
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>>160566824
That's also pretty much his storyline if you replace alimony with dragons.
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>sick of playing against aggro haven/sword/blood
>go full control haven to punish them
>match UP against dshift runecraft

EVERY. GODAMN. TIME.
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>>160566714
Rune does the same thing, except it does it to Control and Shadow. Rune has access to more banishes than Haven. Dshift runs three and Earth runs 9. Your combo pieces and key cards just get banished against Rune for free and their removal doesn't take an evolution point to do.

The problem is more with how the game treats turn four. Turn four and five are valued too much. Cudgel is too strong, but so is Dragon Warrior and Floral Fencer. On the flip side, Shadow's version instant loses in trades (I have no idea why they made it a 5/4) and the ghosts are only useful against aggro.

But seriously it's so infuriating queueing up against Rune when I'm playing control. I know they will just instant remove any early game follower I put down, all while spellboosting off of it. On the flip side, I know if I wait to play something like Seraph it will just get petrified for two fucking mana.

>>160566778
Too slow. This is Hearthstone-lite. It will also just die to all the cheap removal spells aggro runs.
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>>160566904
The 1/1 ward is pure shit though. It could easily be a 1/2 ward. Storm is way more powerful than ward is; storm is one of the most broken mechanics in the game
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>>160566860
>>160566925
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>>160566563
Stop acting like aggro matchups are autolose
Dshift has tools to deal with Aggro
You can't expect to win consistently but you should be able to take a win here and there anyway.
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>>160566839
I thought we were discussing the quality of the voice acting within the game, which I think is fine. I'm not claiming the Japanese dub is bad, I just don't think the English voice actors did a bad job either save for a few examples of shittiness.
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>>160566967
Petrification costs 3 :^)
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>>160566925
>Fight Alimony
>get cursed into becoming Alimony
I don't get it
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>>160567026
Yeah, and aggro players should stop complaining that elana is autolose.
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>>160566858
I wish games like this could force people to run two or three decks at least as an alternative to regular climbing. People would just whine because it would be even more expensive, but like you said it's a terrible system since hard counters are so prominent in games like this and without enemy turn interaction or a sidedeck you're just fucked.

If I had the funds I would craft three Otohime and Alvidas and just play mindless midrange Sword since nothing else is worth it.

>>160566935
Yep. Happens to me every time too.

>>160566904
>>160566968
This. I was being too generous toward aggro. Storm is far more valuable in this game than even Hearthstone because you can evolve storm cards. That means doing two additional damage.

I think I would be fine with how things were if you couldn't evolve Storm cards.
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>Cygames will probably nerf Haven because all the shitters complain about them
>Forest will be left untouched again

I can't wait for another 3 months of treehuggers
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We did it reddit, perfectly even ranked wins with 7 budget but functional decks

post ur cards
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>>160567220
100 each you filthy casual
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>>160567220
Reasonably patrician, but you need to go further
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>>160563757
>>160563935
Holy fuck, the Elf legendaries are broken. I ended up playing Tia 3 times in a single game with one copy in my deck because of bouncing her back to hand.

The amount of value Forest can get from their cards is insane
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>>160567107
You're right thanks for the correction. Slightly slower, but still a huge threat.

>>160567026
Yeah Dshift vs Aggro is a little overrated. Whenever I queue up against them as aggro I barely win in time (if I do at all) because they can just remove every card you play. The only thing that makes the matchup a little weak is that now all aggro decks run 1 mana 1/2s and there's no real easy way to remove those. There's also special cases like Sword because cards like Otohime are unstoppable for Rune.

A 4 mana angelic barrage that did 2 damage to all followers (but didn't hit face) would be nice.

>>160567217
>Sword will continue to get more broken cards
>Midrange Sword will continue to be T1
>no one will say a thing
>Sword will still be top three most picked class in tournaments and on ladder
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>>160566136
>mfw running full ward satan haven
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IM@S Leaders and Cards when?
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>>160567465
SWORDCRAFT LEADER
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>>160567026
evolved wolf x2
razor claw x2
evolved imp lancer
now you're at 1 and there was absolutely nothing you could do to stop it
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>>160567465
Your waifu is going to be vial fodder.
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>>160567465
that shit has no place here, fuck off
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>>160566824
There was an edit for that. Anyone have it?
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SOON.
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>>160566968
Storm is strong but it's not like every aggro deck wins all the time. Control Sword revolves around wards and has a favorable matchup against every aggro deck. It's just Earthrite that sucks because it's inconsistent and can't put out amulets and followers at the same time early.
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>>160567574
What is wrong with you
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>>160567512
>ice golems
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>>160567512
play a ward xD
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>>160567654
>Dance of Death
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Lost my first ranked match in Beginner 2, shit sucked. I actually managed to take back the board around turn 12 and depleted his hand with undying skeleman, but then I got killed by a Dance of Death shave.
>Had Odin/3x LotF/3x Cerb/3x Execution
>Didn't see one all game
T-Thanks
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>>160567583
It has a favorable matchup against every aggro deck, assuming it goes second. Control sword literally has the lowest winrate of any deck going first, and the highest of any deck going second.

The grindy positive-trading playstyle does naturally stomp out aggro, but the next set needs to bring in something to even out the turn disparity for it to be consistent enough of a counter to aggro.
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>>160567703
You can drop more than just one you know
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>>160566478
Anyone? It was great
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>>160567381
That would make Rune too strong against just about every midrange and control deck because there's nothing you could do. Even Homecoming was 5 cost before the nerf.
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>>160567220
can you show me your forestcraft deck bto
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>>160567747
Draw your entire deck out with Spirit Cycle. I dug to my final card for a Tyrant win today.
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>>160567804
Why does every lewd image of the elfslut feature her in this exact pose?
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>>160567747
WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE ELANAS IN BEGINNER 2 JESUS CHRIST NIPPON GET YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER
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>>160567039
You just claimed to be a non-weeb, so I doubt you understand Japanese enough to realize the JP's version's superiority, mr. plebbitor.
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>Drune complained about fun and interactive
Oh the irony
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i fucking did it
after drafting the dirtiest deck in existence, i have finally broken the 4 win curse
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>>160567903
?
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>>160567583
Yes but aggro isn't the only deck to make use of storm.
Storm in general is fucking broken as hell. It just allows so much burst damage in a game with 20 max health, and add the fact you can evolve storm cards and it's just absurd. It can also be sued as removal and let you swing tempo back in your favor without any other resources. And yes Control Sword stops aggro, but that decks is stuffed to the brim with wards. It's an extreme answer to an extreme problem.
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>>160567910
You can make it just with the cards you got when you started the game. Plus, the concept is easy to understand and it is satisfying to win with. The lower in rank you are, the more aggro there is so it's even stronger there.

They'll be scrambling to liquify all their Haven cards once they reach A and realize Rune and Forest are all you see.
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>>160566478
>>160567804
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>>160567703
>DoD is 5 mana
>icegolems is 3 mana
Hmmmm
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>>160567943
Congrats, here's your prize.
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>>160568026
His point is that dshift plays almost no creatures and dance of death is almost a dead card in their hand until you play an ice golem.
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>>160568030
why is elfcraft good at everything?
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>>160567753
Even going first it does fine against Aggro Shadow, bats, and banner. It probably has the disparity against Storm Haven because of Cudgel, although I feel like it's more because people don't run any 4 drops besides Floral Fencer. So they either play two small followers on turn 4 that get fucked by Cudgel, White Paladin that does nothing, or sometimes even putting down nothing because they want to save Floral Fencer for evolving.
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>>160568023
I threw up in mouth a little
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>>160568009
I still see a pile of havens at master really

I wanted to see cute stuff like fighters and goliaths and shit. With a raging etting and a big timmy lucifer, not fucking double elana's at beginners

I mean that just implied that they netdecked and bought a top-tier deck right off the bat before event attempting to play the game

Fucking nips I swear
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>>160567903
I want Arisa to punish me with fairies!
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>>160568023
Thanks a lot
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>>160568023
>20 damage combo with evolve
>but forte is the broken card

Jesus chirst
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>>160568123
It's sandbaggers
They stay in B to get winstreaks
They need to add W/R already and match people by it instead of rank
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>>160568095
part two
so what does everybody else's five win decks look like? i wanna put things into perspective
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>>160568000
Totally right. Softlipsblader, blood dog and freedom eagle all die to barrage anyway, and no early storm follower can trade through healing angel sekrit tech

But when the game reaches later stages, ~6+, rhino pushing through 13 damage out of nowhere or double storm at once + evolve for "oops I win" even if the other player played to conserve life and board the entire game is when that shit gets insane.

I feel like a lot of these problems would be fixed if we had more starting/maximum health but hey
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>>160568023
>>160568108
>>160568156
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>>160567849
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/1?hash=1.1.5zvAY.5zvAY.5zvAY.61jJY.61jJY.61k2Q.61k2Q.65BUS.65BUS.5zvAi.5zvAi.5zvAi.5zxcy.5zxcy.5zxcy.61oCC.65cLM.5zvvQ.5zvvQ.65YC2.65YC2.61O4K.61O4K.5zvBK.5zvBK.5zvBK.61lm6.61lm6.61lm6.61lmu.65Zuo.65Zuo.61Pni.659nE.65XTK.65XTK.65XTK.65enI.65enI.65enI

I didnt craft any of the legendaries/golds, I swear RNG just wanted me to play forest
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>>160564863
>>160564770
>KOKO DE SAMUI NA
>not just as silly and based as GOLLY
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>>160568221
Yeah with the perfect fucking hand for it and an evolve on turn 10. How often do you have 3x circles and 3x roaches by turn 10? Not very fucking often considering circles aren't usually kept and are a common early play.
Meanwhile you just need one Forte and one evolve and bam, 7 damage.
Not saying Roach isn't problematic but Dragon's storm bullshit is bullshit too.
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>>160568284
>>160568023
The worst thing about it is that those incredibly high combos don't require any effort or even exceptional hands.
It's literally just "vomit hands on table, shit roaches"
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>>160568123
Or they aren't retarded like you and try to build a strong deck from the beginning because they are aware such things exist. You don't have to craft a single card to start making an Elana deck, and at the most you'd need to craft Elana if you don't have three.

>I want people to use cards literally no one uses because they are complete trash
>I want people to play and build like idiots so I can get easy wins
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>>160567930
Yeah, just like how Asia understands enough to realize how superior Nicolas Cage's acting is to all the others :)
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>>160564863
I actually wish it were easier to switch between the two, like an in-game option, because I like both for different reasons.

I get rock hard when I hear half of the japanese lines, but there are some English clips like Mordecai and Odin that I fucking adore and wish I could hear.
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>>160568270
>when the game reaches later stages, ~6+, rhino pushing through 13 damage out of nowhere
You read opponents' card and hand and what's he going to play. I hope it's meta shitpost
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>Second Beginner 2 loss in a row
You guys told me beginner ranked matches wouldn't be hard ;_;
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>>160568484
Pretty sure everyone knows that Oscar winning actor Nicholas cage is a good actor.
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Why the fuck is this played turn 2 every single time
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>>160568513
does reading your opponents hand really matter when you don't get a chance to react anyway?
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>>160568221
>run three Forte
>5 unstoppable damage can't even trade with her
>7 if they have evolve
>requires no special circumstances
>can come down even earlier if you've been ramping

That is not comparable to the Roaches requiring many of the combo pieces you would have been using with cards like Tia or Forest Beast (depending on what deck you're using).

>>160568513
>go up against aggro blood
>I know he's holding onto the wolves
>I play goblinmounts
>he dance of deaths them both
>it's turn eight
>he only has a few cards so maybe I stand a chance
>evolve wolf + demon fire to do 7 unavoidable burst damage because it clears all my wards at the same time

Wow I really got outplayed there! I'm so glad that deck runs mostly burn cards that can't even be stopped with wards. I love how you spend all your resources clearing his shitty followers while he just sends burn spells to your face over and over again, dance of deathing your followers and then sending storms to your face as a finisher.
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>>160568587
Because if you hard mulligan for it, the chances you'll have it by turn two are actually pretty high
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>>160568587
Because mom knows better.
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>>160567943
What is in the 5 chest?
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>>160568123
You do realize that lifegain deck is one of the biggest noob magnets in every CCG ever right after tribal aggro, (sword in SV).
>>160568440
This, I wonder why these people don't play against bots or something.
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>>160568587
Same reason why Floral Fencer, Cudel, Dragon Warrior/Siegfried, etc... are played turn four every time.
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>>160568557
The fact that he's won an oscar speaks nothing of his talent. He overacts and chews up the scenery in every take, yet Asians love him because they can't gauge the correct method of speech for english. That same effect applies to weebs who complain about dubs and only watch subs. It's their mind playing tricks on them, thinking the actors in the Japanese dub are better than they actually are.
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>>160568546
They either got lucky, never played ranked for whatever reason or vialed a bunch of stuff to make those cards.

Don't let it get to you, you're not losing anything but time playing ranked and you gain score reward. You'd meet the same stuff in unranked and get nothing in score progress out of a win anyway.
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>tfw you have enough vials to make seraph havens and you kinda wanna try seraph havens but at the same time you wanna save up for midrange sword, which would probably take another 2-3 weeks of saving up for.

KILL
ME
NOW
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>>160568424
>Even exceptional hands
Uhhh.
Yeah they do.
All the really high damage combos require a combination of multiple roaches, circles, fairies, or bounces. You usually have enough fairies but having multiple boucnes or roaches or circles is a different matter. Really the most common is the 6 to 10 damage combos, which granted is still a lot, but the higher damage ones are pretty rare.
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>>160568856
As someone who plays both decks, Mid Sword is honestly more fun and consistent than Elana/Seraph despite all you doing is drop shit on curve.
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>>160568728
Why do people suck Floral Fencer's futa dick so hard? Evolve effects that let you clear the board harder are way more useful than two tokens that don't even have rush.
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>>160568918
Board space is a factor in perfect combos too
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>>160568808
Or people like expressive performances. It's part of why Jackie Chan is one of my favorite actors. I might not understand what he's saying without subtitles, but he's able to make me smile from his body language, facial expressions, and the tone of his voice.

It's powerful and always nice to see. Compared to English voice acting, Japanese voice acting is in general more theatrical. It's less about a realistic performance and more about following cliches and creating personas. It's how with someone like Pompous Princess you immediately can identify her as the smug stuckup hime character just based off one line and a laugh.

People prefer Japanese voices in fighting games for similar reasons. They are more interesting. The yells are more ridiculous, the lines for attacks are catchier. It has a better rhythm.

I remember in a voice acting class I took how the guy even said that in America they highly value realistic voice actors right now, who can create these down to Earth relatable voiceovers. That's the exact opposite of a Japanese voice over.

As much as I love English Cudgel, just compare the two portrayals. The Japanese one sounds way too ridiculous to be real, but the English one actually does sound like what I'd expect from that kind of character in real life.
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>>160568965
>what's so good about 7/8 stats split over three bodies in a class full of synergy to buff large boards on turn 4
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>>160568384
You don't need an exact hand.
You just need 4 cards worth 4 combined mana that take up at max 2 board slots and 3 roaches.
So 3 fairies+ nature's guidance
2 fairies+ 2 nature's circle
And then you have discounted fairies
2(2 at 0) fairies + 2 glimmering wings/sylvan justice
3(1 at 0) fairies + pixie mischief

And that's to get the full 18 damage. You can have even more combinations and lose a damage or two.
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>on a losing streak in C rank
>with Tempo Forest
Doesn't help that I am seeing a lot of teched in Angel Barrages when I don't have Liza in my hand to be fair, but it still feels shitty.
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>>160568965
When I first started the game, I read fencer and thought it would be by far the strongest card in the game.

To be honest, I think it is one of the best of the 4-drop evolves, but holy shit if it doesn't get slaughtered on by the removal based ones.
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Man people are just bad
Here a couple break down on forest
>if forest played and evolved princesses mage
A tempo Wind god into Cynthia
>if forest holds ZERO POINT fairy
T5 Tia into Cynthia
>if forest doesn't play Tia T5
Something something coaches and bounce

Bottom line git gud
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>Hear people meme about bouncing Tia up and down
>Craft and play her
>She says nothing regarding it
>Realise they were just talking about bouncing her back into hand
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>>160568856
Those are the two decks I run. Seraph is actually rewarding and fun to pilot, but you instantly lose to Rune and struggle to survive against aggro. Even if you make it to turn eight and have Seraph in hand, if you're up against aggro you basically just put down a KILL ME NOW indicator.

Midrange Sword has virtually no weaknesses thanks to Otohime, Sage Commander, and Alvida's Command. Like all Sword decks it's really mindless and you could probably program a bot to pilot it just as well as you. But also like most Sword decks it is very efficient and effective.

There's not much your opponent can do when anytime they wipe your board you can follow it up with Otohime, and then do Sage Commander the turn after. You out value aggro and burst down control too quickly for them to do anything.

So yeah as much as it sucks just wait it out and craft Midrange Sword. Though by then it will probably be the only thing people use on ladder.
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Man Dshift just feels awful to play. Even when I win I feel like I just ended up wasting both my and my opponents time.
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>>160568632
You can remove forte.
You can play wards against forte.
If you have a board and they don't contest it and just run forte into your face you can ward up and remove the forte.
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cums etc
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>>160569116
>You just need 3 roaches in hand
>In a deck with almost no card draw
Wow, so easy to get
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>>160569148
People don't want to actually have to think and read the opponent and just play and have cards that have an answer to every other card in the game.
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>>160569275
erika gives me boners
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>>160569116
You still need a lot of shit to go right anon. I play the deck, you don't get more than 12 damage very often, and even 12 is pushing it. You have to draw very well to set up a perfect roach combo.
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>>160569150

You are supposed to bounce her up and down and get her off a bunch
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Imagine that Forest gets cards that add 0 cost ping spells to your hand in the next expansion.

How much more broken does it become?
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>>160569275
DO IT
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>>160569202
Post your decklist for midrange sword? Im seeing a lot of differing opinions regarding the deck and some high elo players who are trying out 2 Otohime 2 Aurelia and 3 Alwida's. Also, how effective is the deck without Aurelia so I know if I can play the deck before being able to afford her?
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>>160568965
In a vacuum she's weaker than the others, but in actual execution you usually get more value out of her. Tokens are extremely powerful in this game when the only viable mass removal is Angelic Barrage, which does shit against Sword.

When going second she trades into the other Turn 4 drops effectively (since they usually traded with something) and leaves a lasting board. If they banish her and then trade into another token, you can just summon another one and keep going.

Of course for a class like Dragon, Floral Fencer wouldn't be good. But with Sword you can buff the tokens to survive and you're goal is just to race them anyway. Even if all that lives is the 1/1. that one extra damage is a big deal when the deck runs three Alvida's commands and 3 of the 2/2s with storm.

It also scales better late game. It's the only one of the Turn 4 drops that can be evolved onto an empty board. With Sage Commander and Wind God being so common in Midrange Sword (as well as Banner), the opponent has to worry about her.

It's hard to say if she's stronger or weaker than ones like Dragon Warrior, but she is most definitely a top tier card that you have to have three of in every Sword deck ever.
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>>160569360
But all you're doing is bouncing her back into hand?
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>>160569337
>ptp
>no card draw

???
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>>160569363
Irredeemably.
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>>160564603
Alright, /svg/, what are your favorite voices of each language?

>Cute: ENG RamiRemi, JP Otohime's bodyguards
>Cool: ENG Urias, JP Andras
>Fun: ENG GOLLY, JP FAIRY-CHAN
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>>160569408
Aurelia and Angelic Barrage are there to keep the Elf match up at 50%. That and aggro match ups too
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>>160569437
I mean you can use your hand sure.
She'll get bored of that eventually though.
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>>160569150
>>160569437
Bounce her up and down on your lap, anon.
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>>160569441
>PTP Elf
L M A O

The more dominant and more powerful deck is Tempo now
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>>160568095
>Darkness guy

I may have lost to you as Sword. I drew pretty poorly and lost to fairy spam into that apocalypse spell that sets health to 1.
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>>160569148
Accurate af but that's only tempo forest tho
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>>160569408
You kinda need Aurelia now to have a chance against Face Dragon. It helps against bats and fairies too. Although I guess if you wanted you could make an aggro leaning midrange deck that doesn't use her.
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>>160569345
>>160569389
are there any pictures of erika in pantyhose.....
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>>160569507
>Cute: ENG Vampy, JP Otohime's bodyguards
>Cool: ENG Cudgel, JP N/A
>Fun: ENG FEAST UPON ME, JP Cudgel

To be honest I don't care for the JP voices. They sound like the exact things I've heard a million times in games and anime already. When a card gets played and I hear the voice, it doesn't surprise me at all.

When I first heard FEAST UPON ME, I went insane. To make things even better, the Lich has an amazing voice too

>LIFE IS TOO DEAR
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>>160569437
Getting her off also means activating her effect, it's a pun

You might be a little slow, anon
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Why does every other class get god tier evolve cards for free while Forest has to shell out vials for Princess Mage/Yuel?
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>>160569507
I personally think ENG Water Fairy sounds super qt
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>>160568440
That's just dishonest and scummy
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>>160569641
holy shit i bmed so hard, im sorry
and all the answers i had were fucking dirty, i drew that "reduce your opponent's health to one" card after dis's too
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>>160569746
Is Hibike Euphonium worth watching? I see a lot of reaction images of it.
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>>160569624
PtP can better utilize the combos thanks to better card draw and cycling.
Tempo Elf is more about bursting damage on the board with Wind Gods and Cynthia using the Roach as reach.
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>>160569359
Even 12 is a disgusting amount.
And not that hard to get either.
4 faries and roach+nature+roach is 12 isn't it?
Just need a single roach and nature + faries.
With just 2 roaches and nothing but faries you can do 9.
2 roaches and nature + faries is 16.

It's pretty ridiculous. And that's with no evolves.
Forte only needs urd to do 10.
But she also ONLY combos with urd. You can't even play other storm followers. Roaches are so much more flexible.
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>>160569791
It's alright.
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>>160569775
no wait fuck that wasnt me
but i did beat a swordcraft after the 4 win marm
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>>160569746
Oh
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Novice Trooper is a girl with a boobplate, not a shota.
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>sacred plea into
>beastcall aria into
>elana's prayer into
>priest of cudgel
Tell me how are you suppose to beat bullshit like this?
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>>160569713
I wish more fanart would notice how massive Erika's thighs are in the official art. It's quite outstanding.

>>160569691
>>160569408
I don't recommend running more than two Saber. She's nice against other aggressive decks, but you usually destroy them as Sword anyway. Also, she can be a surprisingly dead card in certain situations and you really don't want her to be what your Maid Leader grabs on Turn 5 instead of Otohime.

>>160569750
Yuel isn't a basic card? I thought this game made sure every class had a basic Turn 4 evolve card
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I want better friend system.
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>>160569657
Ptp forest would be
>fairy circle into slyan justice then alter fate
Tempo forest
>brb vomiting on board

This isn't rocket science
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>>160569691
Well ok let me make this question a bit easier for you.

I currently have 15350 vials. I may or may not be spending some of the money from a playerauctions disbursement Im getting tonight on packs. I currently have 1 Otohime, no Tsubakis, no Aurelias, no Alwidas, no Maid Leaders and 1 Whole-Souled Swing. What should I focus my vials on right now?
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Whoever you are out there, I want you to know you deserved this win. God bless
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>>160569905
It kind of feels like if you cut out the section of her leg behind the garter belts she'd look normal.

As it is her thighs are thicker than her fixing waist. Christ.
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>>160569750
If they could redo the class they'd probably make Yuel a prize card for the 4 drop. Rose Gardener is kinda decent but playing it on turn 4 pretty much does nothing.
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>>160569847
It's a stupid comparison.
Forte works on her own, that's her strength. You don't need combos, you don't need a big hand. You can topdeck Forte and win that way. Forte is an entirely different beast.
Roach is a combo piece, Forte is just a solo threat with some Urd synergy late game.
>>160569904
Themis' Decree
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>>160569750
Demonflame is garbage outside of Arena.
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>>160569901
Or they gave him boobplate armor as a joke
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>>160569904
If they literally didn't play a follower until Turn 4 then you should have been establishing a boardstate. Theoretically you'll have three to four followers by then and any damage you did to face will be important later on.

If you're control then you had all that time to cycle and do whatever you wanted.
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>>160569507
>erika gets hit in english
>OH COME ON
>erika gets hit in japanese
>small dog yelps in agony
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>>160569943
Make this

https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/45023
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>>160570039
you mean Arisa?
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Could you please take hearthstone out of the OP?

Also what's the most hated deck in the game?
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>>160570008
Yeah I get that.
But roaches are still bullshit.
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>>160569882
>29 shadows
STUPID BITCH

>>160569943
2 Otohimes, 2 Aurelias, 1 Alwidas. I'm sure you can find the extra vials for more Alwidas/Maid/Swing. Then get your first Tsubaki, then your third Aurelia
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>>160570083
yeah sure
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>>160570039
>Luna gets hit in Jap
>gigantic boners
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>>160569904
I dont know you just have to believe in the heart of the cards. I beat an Elana's Haven today with Shadow when he got to use 3 Blackened Scriptures, 3 Cudgels (2 evolved), 3 Themis's, 3 sacred pleas. The deck is pure cancer but you just have to adapt since havens are literally fucking everywhere in ranked.
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>>160570123
Aggro bat
t. Rune
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>>160569775
>>160569863
Still finished 4-1 either way so it's all good. Sadly the game I lost could have been saved by Otohime to deal with fairy spam but shit happens.
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>>160569943
You can make due without Saber and Tsubaki. Tsubaki can be replaced with Dance of Death. Saber can be replaced maybe with Avant Blader though that won't help you against aggro.

You HAVE to have three Otohime and Alwida. No exceptions. At the very least, you could run two Otohime. There are very few decks in this game that have an answer to Otohime. It's insanely powerful and even if they do something like Themis on it, all this power came from a single follower so your hand is still in good shape.

Alwida is just an instant win card. I hope they nerf it and Otohime eventually, but you have to have it. It's immediate three damage to the face or you can trade and still have left a 2/3 ward for tempo. Amazing against aggro for stabilizing and against control as a finisher.
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>>160569507
I love pretty much every English voice for Shadow and it keeps me on the dub. I tried the original voices for a bit but I missed the quirky English set too much.

>It's the pits for you!
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>>160570081
>has 15k vials
>make something costing 30k vials
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>>160562841
Some PTP will run just one Tia, but all elf decks use 3 Ancient Elf.
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>>160569905
Where the fuck is her crotch located? You can't wear a skirt that short and not have at least a sliver of your panties out in plain view.
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>*gasps*
I HATE HER
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>>160570223
God I fucking hate Sword.
Sword doesn't get the ire it really deserves. It's just as bullshit as Haven and Forest but gets like a tenth of the complaints.
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Why is this card in Haven instead of Shadow?

It would be an amazing card for Control Shadow and fit the theme of Shadow much more than Haven
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>>160570123
>Also what's the most hated deck in the game?
Elana because healing is anti-fun
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>>160570248
He's buying packs
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>>160570238
CONSUME ME
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>playing tyrant against rune
>his turn 7, he went first
>at 16 shadows, one generic chump on my board, burial grounds as well. No evos left.
>he throws iceform that turn
>didn't have the one for turn 8 and dies
explain this to me. What throught process would have you do that? What 1 mana card would I pull that would allow it that turn. Soul conversion only gets me to 18. I am confused.
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>>160569905
Every noble probably has a free pass to those thighs since she's a maid
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I just slap every card i have to complete that damn dailies mission.
He disconnected after this. Top fucking kek
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>>160569904
>No Rabbit and Radiance Angel snowball yet
Value, pressure and murder.

Maybe Execute.
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>>160570305
It's strong, but not "bullshit". It's very possible to play around most of sword's cards besides maybe Saber which will pretty much always bait out an evolution or Otohime
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>>160570305
Because everyone in this general complaining about Haven and Forest are running poorfag Bannermeme decks.
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>>160570223
I saw a few Master/AA sword players discussing running 2 copies of otohime, and I can see it working because of the triple maid leader. I think Im going to purchase a 2nd Otohime, 3 Alwidas and 2 Sabers. After that, my vials will be saved towards 1-2 Tsubakis, maybe a 3rd Otohime if I find the need for 3. Thank you very much for your guys' input Im very excited to run this deck. Midrange shadow has given me a love and appreciation for midrange decks ^^
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>>160570305
Its not as frustrating to play against because you can see them coming. Their gameplan is transparent in action as they drop shit on the board and give you a turn to respond.

Compare that to the rage at Dshift (despite not being particularly good) and Forest who can kill you "unexpectedly" from hand. Or Elana/Seraph which is all about denying you shit with remove which is generally annoying and not fun.

Basically it doesn't make you go "THAT WAS BULLSHIT"
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>>160570402
>it's possible to give sword free time to set up board and kill you
ftfy
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>>160570402
Explain to me how you play around Otohime and Floral Fencer without being in a position where you're already ahead
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>>160570305
It's definitely more bullshit than Haven, but overall not as strong as Forest. I hate losing to Sword more though because it achieves high levels of bullshit by doing the most simple shit. It requires virtually no coordination of cards. They all help each other with ease.

And playing control and going up against multiple Alwidas is such a shitty feeling.

>evolved 5/4 straight to my face
>there's a ward blocking it
>if I don't remove both cards immediately, they'll get buffed and just go to my face
>even if I somehow manage to remove them both, he'll just use another Alwida the next turn

Fuck the way Sword is designed. Extremely high value cards every single turn.
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>>160570305
That's because it's straightforward.
No aria bullshit preventing trades
No bullshit board clear
No ridiculous combo damage from hand

Just playing followers and getting value trades from synergy.
Very honerbru
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i can use storm followers im good at this game right xd
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>>160570436
I dunno, my opponent dropping an Otohime after I've used most of my resources dealing with their early game into turn 4 and 5 floral fencers and then playing Sage Commander makes me go THAT WAS BULLSHIT
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>>160570515
lmao you can't even use storm as good as me
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>Sword deck going first in Arena kills me in 6 turns
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>160570460
I gave you Otohime. Fencer can be countered with any good 4drop evolve (dragon warrior, cudgel, playful necromancer) if you're willing to use one to gain back the board. Sure they'll be left with a 1/1 and maybe the 2/2 as well but you can definitely stabilize vs Fencer

>>160570456
Run wards
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>>160570349
DELETE THIS! SHE IS PURE AND UNTOUCHED

>>160570402
That's why they've been T1 since the game came out right? Of course it's bullshit. And there's no real way to play around Otohime that's efficient. Most of the clears that deal with her also remove your own board too, which is bad because the next turn they are going to slam down Alwida.
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>>160570478
Sword's bullshit value is what drives me to play Haven in the first place, just like how it drove me to PtP when Homecoming was still great.
If you don't have a board clear ready by turn 6 or the ability to completely out-tempo them you're just done. Such a frustrating class. At least PtP takes some effort.
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>>160570535
As opposed to something like Roach combo, uninteractive Dshift lethal after removing everything you play, top deck Themis's Degree into another Themis's Degree, endlessly bouncing Tias and turn 9 Seraph kills?
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HOW GOOD IS RUNECRAFT DECKS?

Also how is this game compared to HS and other online card games? Would any of you argue that it actually takes more braincells to play?

HS has a nice appeal and some of Shadowverse's UI bothers me but I care far more for gameplay and HS bores me to death
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>>160570425
I forgot to mention you have to have three Maid Leaders in all Sword decks. There's no exceptions. What makes Sword so consistent is mainly that Maid Leader provides reliable cycle.

>>160570436
Good thing Sword runs so many Storm cards or you might actually have a way to see it coming.
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>>160570607
All they have to do is drag her somewhere and she won't be able to say no
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what are some fun meme decks I could use in lower tiers before insta-removal/board clear becomes too popular by folks who actually know what to play/draft
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>>160570663
All of those are as bullshit as Sword, yes. That's why Midrange Sword shares similar winrates with all those decks you mentioned and has been Tier 1 since the game came out.
Except DShift of course because DShift is a terrible ladder deck until the high ranks.
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I don't really have a problem playing vs sword

At least the deck I mainly play (control blood) shits on sword pretty hard, I mean sure it's possible to lose but most of the time the cards are straightforward enough to take care of. Shit like diabolic drain / revelation / erinyes seems to take care of the token spam pretty well and later on high tempo plays with tons of wards from vengeance to turn the game around
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>>160570740
Try spellboost snowcraft without DS
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>>160570680
Runecraft is like Freeze Mage. It's awful for ladder because it takes forever to win and suffers from the most polarizing matchups.
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>>160570663
I'm actually slightly mad even at the mention of some of that shit
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>>160570487
>No ridiculous combo damage from hand
>roach maxes out at 7 damage unevolved t5 from hand
>bannermemes maxes out at 9 damage unevolved t5 from hand
>has a 3 cost storm + bane card
Yeah sure whatever you say senpai.
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>>160570778
Every bullshit deck has at least one bad match-up. Doesn't make Sword less broken.
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>>160570607
>pure and untouched
>implying every male and female shes been defeated by hasn't had their way with her
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What rank do I need to be considered good at the game?
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Alright well this is what I have right now. I put in a 3rd DoD, an Avant Blader and a Unica to make up for the lack of 2 Tsubakis and a final card slot that Im unsure of right now. How does it look? And how well will it do in my shitter B tier ranked games?
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>>160570680
Definitely takes more braincells to play in general, but depends on the deck.
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>play seraph against seraph
>none of us has the cards to cycle
>none of us draws seraph
>we just dump our cards and wait for 20 turns until someone finally gets the fucking seraph and ends the game
This is the dumbest fucking game i've ever played and it's still going.
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>>160570778
Control Vampire has pretty much always done pretty well against Midrange Royal. If only it wasn't slow as shit and lose to other control decks then people would play it.
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>>160570864
I want to see Erika become Urias' onahole meido.
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>>160570872
9k MMR
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>>160570778
I dont have problems against Sword either, I play Shadow (aggro-midrange-control) and none of them have problems against Sword.
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>>160570680
Better faerie and duelyst for sure especially there's no 20$ bundles for 50 cards.
And what you see in /svg/ is just sore loser nitpicking on decks they don't like.
Fucking read the op and reroll shitstain
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>>160570872

when you get the snowman flair with cool and casual
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>>160570926
What rank are you at? This can probably steamroll you up the ranks really hard
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How can we save these three?
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>>160570813
Except it's actually fun to play because you have to do actual sequencing.
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>>160570305
Finally someone said it. Fuck Sword.
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>Waah Sword
Aggroshitters
>Waah Haven
Sword shitters
>Waah Rune
Haven shitters
>Waah Forest
Bit of everyone really

Hand those (you)s over
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Considering you can't craft animated cards, I wish they were worth more. I can't believe an animated legendary can't be dusted for the price of a legendary.
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>>160570841
>9 damage unevolved t5

???
What are you talking about?
Like banner from 4 +3 quickbladers + novice?
Are you seriously going to call that a t5 combo?

Are you trying to be stupid on purpose?
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>>160571062
Im in my "trial games" from C3 to B0 right now.
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>>160570954
I currently use pic related, I'm not at super high ranks yet or anything and maybe opponents don't know what they are doing but I think I've beat dshift rune and elana haven more than I've lost to them, especially Elana. Purgatory forest has fucked me up a few times but it's not completely unwinnable at least so far
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>Erika's VA makes pig noises on Shadowverse Channel
So it's only a matter of time before the nips edit this into an "Erika the Breeding Sow" video?
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>>160570991

She will deliver an offspring of dapper dhampires soon, anon
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>>160570872
First stop playing Haven if u want to be considered good.
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>>160571162
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>>160571228
>Erika confirmed starring role in next victim girls
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>>160571192
Don't stop till you're AA0
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>>160571218
You're just low in ranks. That deck looks terrible. It also helps that people probably think you're Aggro Blood early on.
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Midnight Haunt is only for that +13/+13 skelleton deck?
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>>160569641
>That sword deck

I'm amazed you don't lose to everyone with that deck.
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>>160571162
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>>160571363
>>160569641
Oh wait, didn't see the T2.

Yeah, you're okay. Nice draft.
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>>160571430
Right. Looks like you have a slow curve anyway and both of those are excellent finishers in Arena.
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>>160571430
Right.
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>>160571081
Make Ramp Dragon better and add more support for Discard Dragon.
Make Control Blood better and change Vengeance.
Fix a chunk of their cards so they aren't easy prey to I SEE YOUR WEAKNESS.
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>>160571430
Left, it's a gamble to last long enough to play right
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How can I quickly change to a specific deck featured on the home screen?
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>>160571332
Is B2 still considered low? I think the deck is actually a lot better than it looks if you just see the cards, it gets some pretty great comebacks from lower life and some of the more unorthodox card choices are because of that, you should give it a try
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I'm really convinced this game would just be so much better if storm didn't exist or was heavily toned down
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>>160571081
>>160571502
Class based CCGs was a mistake.
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>>160571647
Tell me how it would be better
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Need a concede.

54045
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>>160571745
Thanks, Vampy.
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>>160571647
>dshitter's wet dream
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Does storm haven has any bad match up at all?
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>>160571851
D-shift, ptp forest
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>>160571851
Yes.
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>>160571851
Tempo forest
Ptp forest
Aggro bat
Healslut hybrids
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>>160571851
Loses to Tempo Elf, Midrange Sword, Aggro Bat, Elana/Seraph and Bannermeme

http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/45/0/72
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>>160571851
Bats can fuck em up
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>>160571947
go home
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>>160571851
Tempo forest
Aggro bats
Every Sword archetype
Eleana/Seraph
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>>160571947
>dshift

D rank?
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>>160555884
You're bad at card design.
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>>160571962
>stormhaven loses to every t1 and t2 deck except dshift

Why is it tier 1 again?
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>>160572086
It's a bad match up for storm haven.
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>>160572086
Kaleidoscopic glow can fuck storm haven over pretty bad.
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Are they really going to tone down the qt girls in the next expansion?
Is it over?
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>>160572149
Doesn't seem Tier 1 to me anymore.

I haven't seen an actual Storm Haven deck in like 2 weeks. Every Havenfag seems to have switched to Elana/Seraph
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>>160572178
Where did you even get that idea
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>>160572035
So every deck that people actually play other than storm haven?
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>>160570282
>Where the fuck is her crotch located?
In Hime-sama's mouth
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Putting Deathmist Dragon in my Face Dragon deck is the best thing I've ever done. Forest and Sword are much more managable now. Thank you to whoever posted this deck list earlier.

>>160572154
Explain your reasoning
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>>160572154
>35% win rate against storm
>bad matchup for storm
>>160572161
1 card that fucks them up doesn't matter when everything else is stacked against the dshift deck
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>>160572267
I really love that artist's style on all the cards he drew.
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>>160572232
Hime's pretty hot.
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>>160572267
Me too! Save it, It's all yours, friend.
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>>160572232
>yfw we get muh hime-sama, muh Balthazar, muh Losaria, muh Kyle, muh parents, and muh family as alt leaders in the next expansion
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Which class gives the most returns for investment anyway?

As in, which class is the strongest given time, vials and effort investment
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>>160572267
>>160572323
Based Onineko.
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I fucking hate storm haven.
Fuck Garuda.
Fuck Aria.
Fuck Cudgel.
Fuck this stupid deck.
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A semi-netdeck I made that has a very good win rate. r8 m8s
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>>160572365
>bananaposting

S-STOP!
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>>160571613
I recommend at least adding in Some Righteous Devils if you can. Vania too
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So that's how it's done!
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>>160572451
Sword imo. Banner is extremely good for it's low cost and Control Sword is very strong once you get the vials together.
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>>160572451
Probably banner sword, since it's dirt cheap the ratio of cost to performance is way off. It's also pretty easy to play (low effort?) You can probably ride it at least to AA, I would think. Maybe also aggro bat?
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>>160572474
took an outdated net deck and added enraged general/10
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>>160572459
I want the girl on Death's Breath to verbally taunt and abuse me.
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>>160562831
In 20 minutes

https://www.openrec.tv/live/fU6us1XDgJU
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>>160572451
Forest has been the best class for the longest.

Arisa is an expensive waifu though
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>>160572451
Every single decks in heaven, forest and sword is pretty much viable in this current meta. So it doesn't matter, if you play one of these I mentioned above.
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I shadow bad because it hasn't been "discovered" yet or is it just bad because it's bad?
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>>160572628
I BET WE SEE DEATH TYRANT TODAY.
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>>160572695
Doesn't look like there are any Shadow players.
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>>160572632
What I don't understand is how they can KEEP on nerfing Forest cards yet the class keeps on trucking as the strongest.
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>>160572675
Shadow's bad because it beats four crafts convincingly, but the two it loses to represent about half of the meta.
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>>160572675
Its actually alright.

But "alright" doesn't cut it against Forest, Sword and Haven
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>>160572767
Because they have a stupid amount of over-tuned cards. Harvest and Homecoming are only the beginning, there's gonna be more nerfs I bet.
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since it seems people are most butt hurt and try the disconnect trick when they lose to my dshift rune, i just want to remind you that had 10 TURNS to kill me, this is not some miracle bullshit deck that wins effortlessly, it actually need a big setup and even then the win isn't guaranteed like enstatued seraph because I don't have a card that pulls it out of the deck and have to draw it and need couple big minions beside it. I hope you don't "feel bad" losing to it because before it becomes a combo deck it's heavily focused on control which is infinitely more interesting than aggro
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>>160572474
I don't think enraged general is very good. There are many other cards I'd rather play that have more impact than him.
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>>160572628
>5 non-repeat classes across 4 teams
>No Dragon
>No Shadow

Why is this allowed?
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>>160572675
Before darkness evolved, it was holy trinity of aggro shadow, ptp forest, and midrange sword. I guess shadow was the victim of unfortune heavencunt
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>DShift has 2 flame destroyers ready on turn 7 after I fight a Sprint Haven that curves perfectly and hits me with 2 cudgels into a garuda on an aria.
It's really starting to feel like nothing I do matters and I'm just flipping coins every game
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>>160559351
MORE DISCARD MEMES
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>>160572675
Just this: >>160572675

The fact that Haven is the counter of Shadow and its OP atm being the most played class doesnt help his situation.

I dont think is that bad versus Forest tho. Its just Haven pushing Shadow down
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>>160560372
What if he was a cute girl?
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You have 10 seconds to come up with the theme of the next expansion.
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>>160572628
Hype!
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>>160572675

I mean this:>>160572769
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>>160573053
Cute girls
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>>160573053
Slutness Evolved. All Evolved card art gets replaced by lewder stuff
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>>160573035
>What if he was a completely different character
Maybe?
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>>160572149
I feel like people are just specifically playing or making decks that tech against it because it's so popular. When you look at it it's just as strong as any other tier 1 deck and has just as much quick firepower. If you go off weekly statistics then I guess Midrange Sword, Tempo Elf, and Elana/Seraph are the only tier 1 decks.
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>>160572913
Can you not change decks?
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THE COCKS ARE DANCING
>I fuck Otohime!
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>>160573086
>new legendaries have special animations that depict them raping Erika when they go for lethal
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>>160573154
From looking at the description, it looks like each player already has a class assigned.
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>>160573175
But her guards are all women!
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Just had a guy who accidentally played Siegfried when I didn't have any damaged minions. He conceded immediately afterwards. I almost feel bad.
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>>160573268
thats better
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>>160573053
ORCS
I
NEED
ORCS
GIVE ME A FUCKING ORC EXPANSION ALREADY
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>Can't play multiple accounts on the same PC
What the fuck
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>>160573053
Forest Evolved
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>>160572628
anyone going to do english cast on re-stream or something?
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>>160573350
Still waiting
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>>160572596
I want to Necroelementalist to be my daughteru so I can give her headpats all day, along with her phantom animals.
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>>160573328
I once cast Foul Tempest one shadow short. I planned the turn out ahead and didn't bother counting shadows as I used it, but forgot to use the Mimi before the Tempest.

I can't remember if I still came back that game but it was like, half a minute before I continued my turn when I realized what I did.
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>>160573175
>>160573086
What fresh hell is this?
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>>160573328
I once accidentally used Themis Degree on an empty board. Sometimes clicking cards is bugged and it selects the card next to it
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>>160573175
I want this art so I can insert it into the game as Otohime's evolution.
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>>160573509
I've lost games because of this. I had Seraph and played a follower instead. Completely ruined my game. I've lost twice in the last week because the game selected the card next to what I picked.
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>>160573432
Underrated card.
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>>160573509
I double clicked and it healed a minion instead of myself and then I lost to exact lethal because of it.
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>Roach now has Rush

Forest is balanced now
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>>160573350
Who's the male and female leader of Orccraft?
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>>160573578
Roach is now not played in any deck.
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So
>Erika: THIGHS
>Isabelle: TITS
>Luna-chan: 黒タイツ
What's Arisa and Eris's appeal supposed to be?
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>>160573623
Good.
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>>160573658
Arisa has vagina bones
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>>160573509
Just fucking happened to me. Don't play cards fast guys
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>>160573658
Arisa: Elf
Eris: Age
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>>160573350
what a cute orc!
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>there was gayposting
>I missed it

no... fuck

I just want him to be real.
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>>160573658
Armpits
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>>160573509
I have never in months of playing played the wrong card by accident, how does this happen?
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>>160572628
Let the tournament begin.
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>fight a Shadow deck in Arena
>it's pretty much a constructed aggro shadow deck
Sugoi desu
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WE ARE LIVE
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>>160573658
Arisa is the teen ZR and elf

Eris doesnt have appeal, she is the old hag for people with horrible taste
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>>160572865
Merlin can pull Dshift from your deck and there several cards to disable seraph
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>>160573864
Hai.
Hai.
Hai.
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>>160573623
Good. Cards played archetype already has too many good cards.
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>>160573867
>Eris doesnt have appeal, she is the old hag for people with horrible taste

Well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

;_;
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>>160573509
this is a huge problem with the default control. i switched to the sticky style because the mouseover will tell you which card the game thinks you are pointing at
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>>160573801
You click on a card and it just selects the one next to it. It just happens randomly for some reason.
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>>160573801
There was a webm of it like a month(?) ago.

Basically if you click and hold on a card in this area (or on the right hand side), you'll select the card next to it instead despite your mouse still being on your chosen card
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>>160573931
Just switch to Arisa, better blonde and because elf slut
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I just managed to grind out an Elana Haven with my Face Dragon. It tense as fuck. I'm lucky that they could do much for the first 3-4 turns. Towards the end, I was able to pressure them into clearing my board instead of hitting face because I was able to keep getting them back in lethal range. I thought it was over when they pulled Olivia and I was out of Evos, but then I top-decked my Emissary from an empty hand and finished them with Forte since they were at 2 hp.

Face Dragon is tense as fuck sometimes, but it feels amazing when things come together just right and you pull victory from the jaws of defeat.
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>>160573801
It's Johns who misclick and get butthurt.
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>>160573956
Huh, that explains it. I've never had this problem on either version but I always click dead center.
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>>160573942
What do you mean by switched to the sticky style?
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>>160573913
Sou desu ne.
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>>160573115
No, just a cute girl.
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>>160573956
This is why I use the card lockon/right click to play card mouse options on Steam. You always know what you are targeting due to the circle and misfiring a right click is much harder than the click and drag stuff.
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>>160574042
Hai

>Hai
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>>160573864
all i see is a splash screen, where is the vid
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Who are /ourguys/?
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>>160573867
>Hating old hags.
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>>160574017
Couldn't do much*
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>>160574090
U.M.R
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>>160574090
UMaRu?
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>>160574023
that's what it's called under options
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>>160574090
/d2g/ pls
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Any elana or tempo forest fags online? I want to practice my matchup against them.


Room ID 64681
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Remove Sword from Arena (ignore the fact that I am playing Sword).
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>>160574146
DELET THIS IMAGE RIGHT NOW
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>>160574090
>UMR
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>>160574186
Pure Elana or are you fine with the Hybrid version?
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>>160574257
Umaru on the first place!
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>>160574090
>S.V.G
I didn't know we had a team.
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>>160573432
A CUTE
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>>160574242
>losing in t2 sword mirror with turn 2

top kek
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>>160574289
whichever, idc. I need more work with hybrid probably
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is this the highest value card in the game?

>6/6 rush that gives you 2 evolve points
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>>160574354
Ganbarimasu!
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>>160573864
>1,289ish viewers

Also, first game is ON.
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>>160574389
Bouncing Tia up and down and getting her off a bunch is the most value considering her mana cost
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H A R E
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WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?
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>>160574431
>>160574446
Fucking /svg/ memers
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>>160574446
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>160574389

Why you need those petty evolve points if you can just win a game
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>>160574446
Bunny Shenanigans.
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>>160574475
This
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>>160574469
PTP HAVEN
T
P
H
A
V
E
N
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I'll make a new thread.
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>>160574560
Make it cute Elf related
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>>160574446
I'm rooting for SVG.
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>>160574576
Too late
>>160574592
>>160574592
>>160574592
>>160574592
>>
2(TWO) BUNNIES
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B A L D Y
A
L
D
Y
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>>160574560
Take out the fucking Hearthstone stuff so they don't end up here.
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>>160573658
Who's the ass leader?
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>>160555770
>having shit taste
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>>160574653
faggot
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