/rlg/ - Roguelike General

Make Crawl great again!

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xth for money in roguelikes!

Point-based stat distribution or standard roller

>>160351686
>pic
Depends, how useful are you as a meat-shield for zombies while I shoot them with my bow from a safe distance?

>be CeHu of Okawaru
>go to Orc 4
>run out of arrows

Why did that faggot not gift me any for all of Lair REEEEEEEEE

>>160352034
dnd? roll that shit
single player videogames? point buy

>>160352416
But Angband has both

Which one do I choose

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>>160352034
Point. All roller does is result in startscumming

>>160352232
I will hold the street survivor-chan!

>evolve into death scythe
>lose 50 ac
>go from 5.something blows to 3
>lose access to most of my brands, including vampiric
I did manage to read a scroll of enchant weapon on myself, which is cute.

>>160352607
What you're saying is that if I use the roller I could get better stats than with point-based?

>>160352704
Roller just results in you achieving what you'd make if you had point buy or rerolling until you do unless it's like PCB and stats don't matter outside of an easier start

>>160352475
angband is a single player videogames
so point buy

>>160352016
Zorkmids are pretty valueless in nethack, ADoM has gold exploits and other than the fact that getting money without exploiting the game is really really simple it's nigh-useless

DCSS can have runs where you never buy a single thing

Money in roguelikes is pretty meaningless.

>>160352034
Real life.

>>160352898
Ah, ok.

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>>160352684
>death scythe
The absolute masochist.

>>160352684
>masochists still playing death swords

when will this madness end

>Oh Nikola, sweet time for some #freexp

And then I received a grim reminder that I haven't actually fought him as a non-Gargoyle in a very long time.

>>160353226
>>160353229
It was actually pretty strong once you get rBase and some slays. I think randarts only helped, since I got some early speed off of them.

This death scythe form seems worthless compared to the previous one, though.

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>new DCSS randart names
>the True Pharaoh
>the Pharaoh's Fist

well they haven't removed THOSE but the other names were fun too so that's bad

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>>160255518

Well I did it online this time, how about this? It took me 10 hours as estimated webtiles is just too slow to be fun for me

>>160355852
use a server that's nearer

CeHu, cleared Lair and Orc and Dungeon but got neither rPois or MR. Where now? I don't want to go to Snake without rPois, don't want to go to Shoals or Slime and I can't really do Elf without MR.

>>160355852
>chei worshipper
>too slow to be fun
We know it's you, back into the forest spriggan scum

>>160355852
Shame we can't just use the crawl-tiles client and have it shown as webtiles.

Forced to use console if you want to play locally and online at the sametime. Sucks.

>>160352284
>>160353009

fixed this shit in pseudo:

https://github.com/GenericPseudonym/pseudoelliposchengband/commit/fcd5ca430a29f7b8d534cec4afb5963ac77a4613

>>160356973

I only play real roguelikes

>>160356973
>rougelite
Wrong thread. Only roguelikes here. Abominations go.

>>160356973
how about something turnbased on a square grid with permadeath

>>160356409
If you got defenses you can do snake and shaols fine. You dakkastorm. Otherwise you go to the abyss and hell

>>160356973
What part of Roguelike general wasn't clear? all the ideas you need are right here. https://archive.org/details/msdos_Rogue_1983

>>160353408
Okay, ?Sil /Hw to the rescue. Glad I took the time to relax, think it through, and evaluate my options instead of just panicking and dying.

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>>160356973
you may have trouble getting non-shitpost answers because this thread is pretty hostile to roguelikes (even some here play them, they're not discussed here)

But if you want some ideas for roguelike elements to bring into a roguelite dev idea, try playing a few hours with a spread of existing very-different-from-one-another roguelikes. You don't have to try to win these (that would take a new player like...as long as it would take to make a new game), but get a sense of what they do and how to inform your design choices.

I suggest trying:
Sil - the shortest and most elegant Angband variant. Consider giving the short manual a read too (it's kindof like a short dnd rulebook)

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup - the most highly played roguelike out there because it has pretty tiles and most players have difficulty jumping right into ascii games

Nethack - The roguelike closest to the original Rogue in gameplay, with "the devs think of everything" design, great humor in its text lines, and interesting in-game ways of punishing and rewarding the player as they learn

Demon - A party-management roguelike, probably the least-roguelikey game allowed in this thread imo, but it also does some neat things the others do not.

Brogue - A clean, elegant roguelike with neat environment/item interactions and some good lessons for interface design

Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - An open-ended zombie survival roguelike, heavy on crafting.

Infra Arcana - A lovecraftian 1920s (I think) roguelike, short and sweet, great atmosphere

Ancient Domains of Mystery - Nah just kidding fuck that game.


Also, lurk more. This thread discusses gameplay and concepts a lot. If you frame things from a purely roguelike perspective you'll be more likely to get constructive replies. This thread really is not for roguelite discussion after all.

>>160352684
remember to post your inevitable splat so you we can laugh at-I mean with you

God I hate Entropy Weavers so much.

>>160357772
Would you reccomend dynahack over nethack as the *hack representative?

>DECj
>5 starting strength
Do I put points into strength or do I just dump it all into dexterity?

>>160357772
To add on to this I'd also suggest playing The Slimy Lichmummy.

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First level of rDisenchant. Still missing confusion, even though you only need two essences to gain it.

>>160358028
oh I guess dyna would be quite fine too. I wouldn't do *BOTH* because the point was to suggest a spread, but dyna can certainly serve instead just fine.

>>160358137
oh good point, TSL is another one that's very different from that list

What music do you listen to when playing roguelikes?

>>160358124
depends whether or not you want to worship Trog

>>160358179
Confusion resist on weapons is crazy uncommon, I guess. I think hell lances can have a random high resist on them (?), so EVENTUALLY you'll be able to get it
or maybe they always have rdisench, not sure

>>160358124

>dex or str
>as a caster

Uhhh, why would you do that again?

>>160358589
>>160358464
>muh EV
>muh stat drain deaths

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Anyone have any good RCFiles for console mode?
Thanks in advance lads.

>>160355852
I'm happy to see you responding to my post and showing your great achievement, congratulations!

>>160358735
Not mine but angbandrc is incredible
https://gist.github.com/MichaelDiBernardo/1e782f8644b217d1f0e4

(also elliptic's and/or marvinpa's at least, they both play console)
(and some other peoples' who may not want name mention)

>>160358443
somafm.com

>>160358443
Usually I play with no music or sound, or sometimes with a stream/video in the background. If I am playing music, it could be from a wide variety of sources, but recently-ish I've listened to electroswing (caravan palace, parov stelar, etc) or Amon Tobin (e.g. I really like the Bricolage album)

But usually silence.

Is there a way to see which webtiles server is closest to you

>>160359472
open up a console and ping each one

Undickery.

>>160359472
>>160359529
did this help you? Did you figure out how to do it?

>>160359801
now to figure out rc file garbage in .19

>>160359874
copy it from rlgrobin and adjust parts of it

>>160359980
does rlgrobin still bind tab to controlq when you pick mibe

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No fun allowed.

>>160360080
10/10

>>160360080
I never tried desu

>>160360094
READ MUNDANITY!

>>160360080
okay i checked and it doesnt

somebody (trigger warning) removed it

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Finally beat Crawl as Offline MiBe

Which autism simulator should I spend my time with next?

The minimalism of Sil?
That Lovecraft RL? (though I know nothing about it but the nice setting)
Do I download PCB and spend three days recognizing the interface?

Regular vidya is dull and DCSS is too vanilla, I need more roguelikes

>>160360768
DDA

>>160360768
pseudoellimpaposchengband

>>160360768
Nethack4

>>160360768
Infra Arcana

>>160360741
Note that I removed it because it didn't work.
If anyone played mibe on the account, it set up a macro then called that macro when you press tab.
The problem with using a macro to do this is that when Johnny GoodMuCK wants to not bother with ctrl+dir for 7 rats and presses tab, he would then quit the game because the macro was saved by someone else (maybe).
The other issue is that it gives the save macros prompt when the mibe quits.

Bad execution of a mediocre joke imo. Blnt.

>>160360768
ADOM, it's the best roguelike

>>160360768
the number of my post decides
0-1 DynaHack
2-3 Sil
4-5 Infra Arcana
6-7 Brogue
8-9 crawl lmao

>get Marilith form
>it's actually worse than the death imp form

Why are shields so fucking shit?

>>160361423
Elbereth Archer confirmed

;_;7

Where can I find a build guide for DoomRL? The only guides I've found where for ealier versions like 0.9.9.3

>>160361423
Based postcount guiding anon to the light.

>>160361563
>elbereth
don't you mean edain?
>>160361623
>3
also yeah I'm glad I rolled him a three (3)

>>160361568
build guide:
pick one of the master traits that you like, probably one of the weapon-specific ones for your favorite weapon type
take all the prerequisite traits
don't take any of the blocked traits

contrats now u have a build

>>160361423
To Middle-Earth it is

>>160361568
Literally just grab an ultimate and Whizkid and that'll probably take you until the end of the game.

>>160361683
Anon you don't understand, I can't decide by myself, I need someone to tell me what to do

For example, let's say I want to make a shotgun build

Tell me the exact traits I need to pick for a good one

>>160361830
>For example, let's say I want to make a shotgun build
>Tell me the exact traits I need to pick for a good one
The shotgun traits.

>>160361568
The game makes building pretty easy because all the high-tier traits have a set of requirements and things you can't take with them. Just build around those.

>>160361678
No, An archer that uses elbereth rope-a-dope. Have you not meme'd with the most meme build???

>>160361830
pick marine
aim for the army of the dead master trait

get shottyman ASAP then do whatever the fuck you want cause it doesn't matter

>>160361909
But there are several of those, you have to tell me which ones I need to choose

>>160361568
>>160361683
>>160361794
>>160361919
This, but don't try to make a dodge build because everything in the endgame ignores dodge anyway.

>>160361983
>army of the dead
>not shottyhead scout with nano shrapnel

>>160362190
>reliably getting nano anything
some people play normal modes instead of Ao100 anon

also gunrunner instead of shottyhead on shotgun scout is neat too

>You can read your library to your NPC to make them a real bro now

>>160358443
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE52V6vwSfU

The OST is nice

>start playing webtiles
>open inventory
>cant scroll down to view items
how

>>160363723
Are you using the arrow keys?

>>160358735
Here are mine, if you want to look:
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-0.19/nikheizen.rc
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-0.19/neizenel.rc

>>160363723
j
pgdn
2
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end

>>160363723
wat gaem

>>160356767
Doing god's jerb, anon.

>>160359562
Undickery ++ ungood.

How's Ironman PCB? Is it as bad as it looks?
Is it as boring as it looks?

>>160364027
Looks good my man, thanks.

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>15 casts later
Guess magic dart isn't good enough

>>160365421
Wyvern zombie is kind of rough for an ossuary, but you should have left through the portal. It can't follow.

And yeah, magic dart is pretty awful for anything other than battlesphere procs and d1-d2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoHGW7YnGSI

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Here I am, yet again.

>>160365252
It's slightly less boring than Angband, which still means it's super boring.

>>160365873
>only angband is viable
Well fuck that. I'm gonna play with all other * birth options on except ironman mode and nightmare mode.

>>160365252
i don't know if there have actually been any ironman pcb wins

but it doesn't look like the ladder on oook.cz can be sorted by ironman status

>>160366087
It looks like a zerker-only thing anyway, PCB wise.

hard mode: play a quylthulg or a high-mage of trump with allow_pet turned to off

>>160366234
There are more humane ways of torture.

>>160365421
>xl:7
>wyvern zombie
>magic dart
Where's your IMB/Conjure flame senpai?

>>160351686
>IA 19.0 beta (98192ab) Windows
http://www103.zippyshare.com/v/IMCnCQWR/file.html

>VirusTotal result
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/f3af9568724af28eb06379a60a6ee3544a366d150b51bca83c1cded50566f22e/analysis/1479333066/

>>160366569
this is not a spicy meme
the spicerack would disapprove

>>160358443
Either something like the Transistor or Endless Space/Legends soundtracks through the kind of awful Steam music library. NEO Scavenger is obviously perfect for CDDA.

Or my "basic bitch" youtube playlist featuring mainly Taylor Swift and Katy Perry. Upbeat pop running in the background is great when you keep splatting bec. u bad.

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>>160367293
>youtube playlist featuring mainly Taylor Swift and Katy Perry

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>>160367186
http://www32.zippyshare.com/v/ROSAmcxn/file.html

>>160367186
What is it?

>>160368052
Hey, sausage is gross but I love it too.

>>160367293
>Or my "basic bitch" youtube playlist featuring mainly Taylor Swift and Katy Perry. Upbeat pop running in the background is great when you keep splatting bec. u bad.

this better be a jape

>>160358443
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4f0ocneHVs
It fits so well. Some podcasts from Roosterteeth and achievement hunter are nice too.

>>160367293
What's some upbeat pop? I could use some depression meds

>>160368527
>sausage is gross
Fuck you

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>>160368669

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Wew lad

>>160368669
found the sausage-loving dickuposter

>>160368643
>>160368669

Fuck off with this non-roguelike crywank.

>>160368954
no

This talk about sausages reminded me that I'm circumcised

Thanks guys

>>160369138
bec ur bad LOL

>>160358443
podcasts n shit usually

http://www.roguelikeradio.com/
http://www.thisamericanlife.org
http://thefpl.us
http://www.sirlin.net/podcast/

>>160369138
look on the bright side anon

the state of your dick doesn't matter because no female will ever willingly see it anyways

>>160369589
You're forgetting about the loss of sensitivity and masturbation

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Interesting tactical rooms

>>160369908
but if u do that u'll go to h*ck

>>160369998
post your chr and dex getting swapped

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>>160370226

>>160370410
thing of all the free expees if you kill it tho
just hope it doesnt ever actually melee you or cast any spells

>>160367293
It's one thing to like pop, it's another to like those nasty sloots. Get better shit taste or go full weeb.

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Charcoal tanks when. When!!!

So, is Cata popular in Japan?

>>160365647
>>160358443

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>>160371545
Hai hai, onii-san.

>>160372791
>those scissors
I'm 80% sure the guy who made that uses a tileset

>>160370938
>caring about the personal character of musicians
>caring about ANYTHING other than the way the music sounds
this is the thread for being autistic about shitty retro computer games, not being autistic about music

>>160373132
Their music sounds shit too.

>>160373132
but their music sounds like shit too

>>160358443
Obscure dungeon/minimal synth tapes.

>>160373132
their music is bad, also.

not liking the music is fine
(i don't either)

but the second you have an opinion on the personality of random artist #235 you are being autistic as fuck and probably spend way too much time reading gossip magazines

>>160373217
>>160373242
Not him, but the same can be said of J-Pop as well. In fact, japanese and korean pop relies less on the actual music and more on marketing the "artists" themselves as artificial celebrities

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the dragon has his own little hoard :3

>>160374117
That dragon has achieved comfy, please don't hurt him or disturb his home!

>>160374117
What game?

Need a bit of direction for CDDA and the wiki is even worse and more out-of-date than Crawl's

After I've secured food, some medicine, some reading material, and a place to hole up at, usually all within the first day, what should I be doing then?

Not asking for a walkthrough but just generally some sense of direction. Explore bunkers / laboratories? Keep on traveling the world using working cars I can find?

I don't want to explore too much as it seems the game doesn't dynamically unload far-away areas so it eventually bogs down in processing

>>160358179
Weird, rConf was first resistance I got.

>>160374495
well a pack of like 5 zephyr lords drowned me in gravity and nexus hounds so i left the level

>>160374554
pcb

>>160374647
do whatever you want lmao

>>160374647
the problem with cdda is that there's nothing you SHOULD do. the game has no long-term goals except the ones you set for yourself

I wish we'd get some more japanese roguelikes.

>>160375418
I don't know about any japanese roguelikes aside from Hengband, elona, MaiDenSnow Eve and Shiren the wanderer

>>160375658
Japan really likes Mystery Dungeons. Which are related, but lack permadeath so don't technically count. They fill the niche for them, though, so not a lot of traditional roguelikes.

>>160375658
do mystery dungeon games count as separate form shiren

what about zangband vs hengband

>>160375658
One Way Heroics

>>160374647
http://www.wiki.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?title=Beyond_the_first_day

That guide is decent.

You can explore ancient ruins and mines, delving for artifacts.

Make the most secure and self sustaining base possible.

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>>160374647
>tfw we used to have an actually good dda that covered this including progression and risk levels
Craft chain survival for good foraging rates and yields. craft chain fabrication for a wood cart, spears, and funnels. Craft chain tailoring for storage and protective gear. This breaks you from the loot cycle, provides loot storage so you can focus on armor, and allows you to go at your pace

From there it's up to you. Remember you can read +4 morale books and play/listen to music/stereo to keep focus up so you get somewhere after the first fight/craft of the day. note trucks with cargo spaces to salvage. Get a vehicle running. Find books for welders or drive and find real welders. Add more storage. Skill up archery to train marksmanship. use plentiful low calibers and morale books to train gun skills beyond 3 after you find their books. make sure to have a couple grenades to kill NPC's before they force talk you. Hit towns hard and fast to find gun basements, tools, better armor, and cherry pick shops. You can lockpick a lot of safes. Others use a stethoscope from ambulances and medshit. Others the electrohack. Read up speech and computers in the downtime. At labs once you find a science bodies map extra for a sci id card, armor up for taking burst fires of 9mm. high protection and coverage. Find one where the layout allows for the turret to be far from the back of the hall and sit at max range while it exhausts itself or just shoot a bunch until the computer finally survives. Then go hack the computer and download the surface map. From there you can cherrypick map features and head to other labs to download more maps. when you're on foot, pack a trowel or digging stick so you can harvest dandelions and dahlia roots for dandelion tea and flour. Drink a dandelion tea in the morning and at night whenever you're not getting healthy living messages on wakeup.

>>160376707
Keep expanding or build a new vehicle once yo uhave a vehicular welding rig. Outfit it with all the vehicle modules and cargo spaces to live out of. With the vehicle powered bullet thingy you can rip apart your crapass ammo and shift it up calibers. Basically, your goal is gaining more drugs, explosives, guns and ammo than it cost to get them and not die to random shit.

Alternately, instead of roaming for shit, craft chain frabrication and chain constructions to skill up for a rock kiln, a smoking rack and a rock forge. Burn 12 logs and 4 heavy sticks every 6 hours in the kiln. Craft a hoe. Plant food. Funnel water. Preserve food with craft chain'd vinegar, salt water from swamps, or charcoal if it's not already shelf stable and grind flour.. Craft tools, electronics, armor, weapons, loot wagon, etc you need while reading and bonking zombies you left unpulped for combat training.

Lategame you're hunting a full set of books, cbm's, crafting mutagen serums and purifier to mut roulette, purify and repeat until you get what you like, and hunting artifact clothing weapons and doodads which are absolutely terribad 95% of the time so you can be the meme artificer.

It grows your file size which can cause some save/load chug but that's years down the road. it's only like the 3x3/5x5 around you that's loading and it saves/loads chunks as you go.

>>160376707
>tfw we used to have an actually good dda that covered this including progression and risk levels

What do you mean by this?

>>160377054
Had a whole actually sensible thing on what gave you what agaisnt what risk instead of lolol just go out there kid!

>hobgoblin wearing gold dragon scales on d:1
what the fuck

>vampire in D:5
>confused
>2 shot
never seen that before

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i can't go tab with a vampire, so it's useless

>>160376426
>>160376707
>>160376812

Really good stuff, thanks! This is exactly what I need to give myself some sort of goal to work towards instead of just stumbling around looting blindly.

What's the best way to ensure a consistent water supply? I'm struggling between getting drunk and vomiting up all my food / trying to find rivers / trying to find bottles of clean water. I guess I need to set up a fire and some sort of container for water so I can boil stuff?

>>160378123
Fill bottles with waters, leave one empty, start a fire and then you can craft clean water

Pools have practically infinite waters, mansions have them and you can find them in cities

>>160378335
>waters
I'm smarts

Why an empty one?

>>160378514
Well you need something to put the water in

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Now playtesting the alchemist for real, for once.

Evaporating water potions produces mist, but maybe in later game it could produce water? Or maybe it would be bit too cheap?

>>160378514
because the crafting system is dumb and doesn't consider the fact that you can put clean water back in the container that the water CAME from

>>160378619
acid*, not mist specifically.

>>160378123
>What's the best way to ensure a consistent water supply?
Get a funnel (you can craft some, if necessary) and a 3L jar or bigger container. Apply funnel, place container under it, never need water again until winter.

>>160378632
If you need to boil and only have one bottle, you can wield your pot and fill that with dirty water.

>>160378619
water damage would be super OP early on but low-damage water attacks don't stay relevant later in the game; the stun chance is a function of both monster level and damage done, so it will be nigh-useless against high enough level enemies

(compare to ice or rock which can cause stun regardless of damage done)

acid is cool but i would change the messages to make the damage type more clear -- trying to blast an rAcid monster with "mist" and having it resist would be confusing

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>>160374647
>it seems the game doesn't dynamically unload far-away areas
It really should do that, unless something has gone horribly wrong in the past few weeks. The bubble of game world that's actually loaded is quite small. If you leave a fire burning, leave, and come back a few days later, it's usually still lit because burning isn't processed when you're away.

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>>160379193
Probably I should.

There are some ideas that I have for the class, like having fire-ball attack that consumes flask/lantern fuel.

I have to figure out how to keep the evaporations relevant even in later game. You can get detonations ( rocket ), ruinations ( time ) or death ( death ray ), but those are rather expensive to throw around. Thankfully class can do combat, isn't inept with devices and gets acid/poison brands when leveling.

>>160376621
Poschengband is the most masochistic Monk experience I've never played.
>you wan

>>160379782
You could do some funky stuff with evaporations that scale with the player's weapon damage, sort of like the samurai's spells. Maybe evaporating heroism lets you make a heroic shout (sound is a good element though, might be OP if the damage isn't bad), or evaporating speed causes you to go temporarily super-speed and attack everything in the cloud.

oh yeah berserk strength too, that would be a good thematic one for "cloud of fist"

CDDA takes a *long* time to process when I start sleeping. Any particular reason for this? Reading seems to go fine, so I don't think it's the progress of time.

>>160379769
Oh, good to know! I was noticing it slowing down a little bit a couple hours into a playthrough and was wondering whether it was because of expanded map exploration.

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>>160380129
Cool ideas. At moment all evaporations are offensive and mostly use bad potions.
Class details at the moment, actually:

Core:
>+2 Dex +2 Int
>-1 Wis, -2 Chr
>Exp: 125
>Good at melee, shooting, stealth
Bonuses:
>To-hit / to-dmg bonus: 1 + level/10
>Regen bonus: level*2
>Poison brand at level 25. Acid at 40.
Abilities:
>Create Infusion: places a potion into list similar to magic eater's.
>Break Down Potion: Destroys potion, adds 1/3 chem-cost to chem-counter.
>Reproduce Infusion: Recreates number of selected infusions. Costs chem, has certain level+int requirement per potion type.
>Evaporate: Evaporates a potion/infusion, usually creating rad 2 fireball with element depending on the potion destroyed.
>Alchemy: as per spell

I think it could be powerful in late game when you can keep chem high by buying out store pots / breaking them and reproducing potions of detonations/invulnerability/life etc.

>>160378123
Grab a pot/pan from a house and cook clean water. The stone pot is survival 2/cooking 1 so you can craft junk and cook meat for cooking 1, bindles/makeshift sling for survival 1, digging sticks for survival 2, then craft seeds for survival 3 for a >90% success rate. Even deep water is still a 25% chance to poison you when drank straight. Back in the old days it was less of a problem cause meat never actually rotted and animals kept spawning so you'd just sit on your hoad of 200 wolf corpses puking until you finally won the rnd lotto. Craft improvised fishing hook from nails for fab 1. smash furniture for nails. Wooden needle or knitting needle for fab 2. Apply a cutting item to a 2x4 or log for skewers. Distaff and spindle to fab 3. carding paddle or clogs to fab 4. Craft banded wooden cart wheels for fab 5. If you run out of nails, disassemble and recraft them. then craft 4 plastic bowls, a plastic mold, and a funnel. You can get plastic from repairing clothing with a cloth/leather, plastic component like extra rain coats and hiking boots then cutting it up for extra chunks. Deconstructing broken consoles gives ~10-12 plastic chunks. Go outside. Apply the funnel then pick a direction to place it. Drop a container on it and it'll fill. If you have larger containers like a 3L glass jar, large sealed stomach, jerrycans or better a makeshift funnel will make do in the meantime. If you're really pinched, A fuckton of leather funnels and containers will keep you from dying though you may wish you did.

>>160381247
As for the containers part of it. Examine damaged vehicles. Very rarely will they have an intact metal tank over a broken frame. You can beat on it for a low chance of actually hitting the broken frame causing it to break off and eject the tank from the vehicle. Gather pine boughs for sealed stomachs. You'll get 20+ stomachs from a spider basement. Ant hills have unlimited. Generally just using a sling/slingshot while you gather dandelion dahlia root, poppy buds, and rocks on the way to whatever you'll be able to bag a couple stomachs a week from wild game. At tailoring 4 you can craft 30 rags into short rope then deconstruct it for string and thread. Beds have a fuckton of rags if you just smash it. Ditto for closing house curtains, ripping them down with e, then cutting up the sheets. Once you have a hammer and screwdriver you can deconstruct broken consoles for plastic for jugs and canteens. Once you have 5-6 or so mechanics skill and presumably good electronics skill you can remove car batteries, repair them, then disassemble them for acid to make batteries to repair more and get a hefty 20 plastic a car batt. Once you have a wrench and hacksaw you can remove 60L metal tanks for steel jerrycans and 60L metal tanks. Later on a vehicle welding rig lets you craft metal tanks of varying sizes and big kegs. For storing absurd amounts of liquids, You can construct wooden kegs and standing tanks. For faucets, you can smash sinks, tubs, and empty toilets in houses. It's like 1/7 you get a faucet. For nails, smash furniture with a 2x4 or something you don't care about. It's about 150-200 nails per house or basement. It's real comf once you can start throwing all your water and clean water in kegs to free up your containers.

>>160379769
>tfw reading 3 +4 morale books then having 3 hallucinogenic mushrooms, 3 special brownies, a joint, 2 hits of wild apple, some hot soup and turn on my mp3 player to start the day of senseless slaughter

>>160381392
Oh and waterskins! Repair cloth,leather clothing and just cut up solely leather clothing since repairs cost as many if not more patches than you'd gain from repairs these days. When you get tools you can remove vehicle seats and deconstruct them for 12 leather patches for waterskins and turn the springs into bear traps. Craft all the small waterskins/waterskins/large waterskins your autism horde would ever need cause holy shit you get a lot of leather.

>>160381034
it might be nice also to replace the passive bonuses to-hit etc with improved potion effects or something

e.g. instead of +6 to-hit and to-dmg you can give a larger bonus but only when !heroism is active

the regen bonus sounds too small/late to be impactful
half-trolls get +100 at level 5 or 10 or something i think
past the early game regen isn't amazing for hp, but it can be helpful for mana (do alchemists use mana?)

the brands sound cool + thematically relevant

oh yes and if you haven't already, give them the same autodestroy functionality as weaponsmiths where they automatically extract essences from anything they destroy

the ability to craft !*healing* and !life out of giant enough piles of !cmw sounds like it would lead to awful awful grinding lategame -- i might put those + stat potions in a list of uncraftable stuff
potionmasters get around the problem in a different way: to craft a a potion they need to use up other potions of equal or greater level, so no scumming angband:1 for 1000 hours to get max stats but they can turn 2 !wis into 1 !con

>>160382117
Alchemist do use mana, but not majorly. It is mostly for evaporation/alchemy now.

Hm, yeah. Good ideas.
Particularly boosting effects could be nice.

And yeah, I'll do that. I just have to make proper autopickup profile for alchemists so they don't destroy potions of ruination/death, etc.

And regarding lategame grinding, one option would be making 3 tiers of chemicals, common, uncommon ( generally shop rares / things you find from drops only ) and rare ( stat+, life, invulnerabilities... )

>>160380687
I think I've read somewhere that the longer you play the more RAM the game uses

Saving and exiting seems to fix it

>>160382627
don't just make an autopickup profile

make a custom race "destroy_object" function like jelly monsters or weaponsmiths have which extracts the potion instead of just destroying it

you can also mark those malpots as "special" class items here:
https://github.com/poschengband/poschengband/blob/master/src/autopick.c#L1392

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>mfw I just realized I can hold down tab for super speed tablording

>>160382985
Alrighty. Thanks for the headsup.

>>160383126
>he didn't edit his rc to to turn off key repeating

>Want to start a new run in ADOM but keep playing Azure Dreams instead

What the fuck

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edgy/10

I can't believe you can't use your frying pan as a drying pan in DDA

>>160383419
Azure Dreams is the superior game so I don't see why that's a problem

>>160383635
I didn't say it's a problem, just that I've been playing it off and on since the late 90's and I've yet to grow tired of it, despite how "small" it is compared to most other games in the genre. I guess that's just a testament to good design?

>>160383506
Shut up Brock.

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>>160383506
>HAHA YOU WANTED DRYING RACKS?
>SALT PANS!
GIT REKT KIDDO, SMELL YA LATER!

Is there any game where I can watch my wife being fucked by a yeek?

>>160384376
You can be the NTR'er in Elona, but I don't think you could get NTR'ed beyond suggesting that your wife is being stolen.

>>160384376
I don't know of any hentai NTR games where you play as the husband

>>160383506
Add

>"flags": [ "RAIN_PROTECT" ]

to \data\json\items tools.json at the bottom of the "pan" entry.

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>>160384870
>rC+, rF++, MR+, rPois, wild magic, clarity
>You are extremely robust

>>160384578
>suggesting that your wife is being stolen.
whar

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>>160382985
But yeah. I gotta head back to sleep now.
Thanks for your input.

I wish to pat the awoo

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CDDA

Exploring and clearing out mansion of its servants while trying to set up a more long-term base there (right next to a river and swamp, and about a couple miles from a mall and a town) and I keep getting teleported to different parts of the mansion.

There's not some magic fuckery going on here? (I have the arcana mod enabled.) Nothing shows up in the message logs.

>splat because of poison thanks to walking a little too much
I think I should find something else to do now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDwYpJ92kfk

>>160387795
Sounds like modshit. Enjoy ADVENTURE and engage your deductive reasoning.

>>160387795

>killing the last zed in the mansion
>suddenly ectoplasm'd
>huddle in a corner until it wears off. nothing to be seen
>8:15 PM in a haunted mansion in the middle of a swampy forest
>You hear a distant rumble of thunder.

i-it's going to be okay...

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Asking again what are the best roguelikes on android?
I've already gotten angband,Unnethack, and shattered pixel dungeon

what's boosting my speed in Elona?

I took off all my gear, checked mutations and corruptions. I have a base of 72 and a current speed of 84.

not that i'm complaining.

>Playing cata
>Get myself kitted up with a motorcycle
>Become a traveller clearing out towns
>End up crashing into a doctors office and dying
this fucking game

>>160390084

From quaffing a blessed restore body. It raises your physical attributes while a blessed restore spirit raises your mental attributes.

How the fuck do i Walk or Run in the most recent Cataclysm client. Did they remove it or am i missing something i dont see the fucking keybind anywhere in the Commands.

>>160390450
I haven't updated mine in a few days but have you tried " ? They might have taken it out for whatever fucking reason

Hey I haven't played Cata in a bit do NPCs work yet? Do the shimmering portals do anything?

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>>160390239

Steer better, anon.

>>160390982
Nah they're working on hair and beard growth i think

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YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>160390015
hoplite maybe?

>>160390982
npcs work portals dont

>>160385228
you can give your pets custom speech files, so when you talk to them they could subtly mention how they're fucking your wife and there's nothing you could do about it

not that anyone would actually be weird enough to do that

>>160392691

Wasn't there a Chad in Port Kapul that literally asks for your wife in exchange for some shit reward? I remember giving him a Meshera Gamma waifu

>>160391818
Holy shit you actually did it.
How many did it take.

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>>160393587
202 attempts.

>>160393774
I admire your dedication.

>>160393929
It's all thanks to the powers of autism.

>>160393774
literally just slow down and pay attention

Any recs class/race wise for my first actual PCB run?

I went up to the bottom of the first dungeon as a Barbarian Zerker just to get a feel for it. I'm looking for something similarly noob friendly but with more depth than "NO READING JUST SMASHING"

What's the current value of Deep Elves for the tournament?

snotling rage-mage

snotlings have low xp penalty so they level up faster, and they can use Devour Flesh to solve any hunger problems easily

>>160395201
http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.19/species-backgrounds.html

>>160395086
mauler is a fun class

any race is really good, but plain ol' Human is nice because you level up fast and still get one of the demigod perks

>play a caster
>make a single mistake
>die in one hit

>play a melee
>press tab
>press tab again
>win the game

>play a caster
>sif muna is not on D:1-6 or temple
>t-thanks developers for removing all my fun

Is /rlg/ relegated to last place in the tournament again

>>160395689
We're going to get a perfect 27th place finish just like last time.

>>160395606

>Sif

SiFault

>>160395086
Balrog warrior's pretty good and straightforward.

>>160395689
which is our team?

In Cataclysm DDA, whats the best way to raise your first aid skill? I somehow managed to escape the labs, but I only put 2 into first aid. I need 3 skill to craft first aid kits, because improvised first aid kits apparently don't work with removing bionics.

>>160399134
>whats the best way to raise [skill]
find + eat a library

>>160399398
closest i found was a small bookstore with no first aid books. Guess i have to Explore.

>>160395086
Warrior is straightforward, half-titan is buff and has innate probing so you know what monsters do, though they have a huge exp penalty.

Rogue if you want some spells, I guess.

>>160399134
Find books is pretty much it.

I've gotten first aid 1 by shoving all the bandages and disinfectant in my body (needed 1 to make a splint), but I don't know how practical this is for higher levels.

>>160399871
if you want something with big xp penatly demigod is GOAT

Tell me about the tummies.

>>160395381

>Humans that high

I could understand Tengu, Kobolds and Nagas but Humans? wth literally free points

>>160400101
a lot of loyalty for a hired tum

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>tfw there will never be an MMO with the complexity of a roguelike

>>160400212
Hu is a pretty unpopular race.
Not because they're hard.
Just because people incorrectly think they are going to be boring to play and never actually try them.

That said, my least favourite combo ever is probably HuAE.

>>160401632
tomeNET?

>>160399871
Reminder that anyone who plays PCB without easy lore and easy ID enabled is literally autistic.

>>160402981
he only added those features because of mpa-pcb
praise be unto marvin, saviour of rlg

>>160401971
Yeah, I'm sure nobody bothers playing Hu despite all the memeing by faggots about you about them being a great and fun and versatile race. The fact that your claims aren't backed by any gameplay statistics whatsoever is just a misconception on a macro scale.

>>160405078

What else would you describe a race full of 0 apts? Not versatile? Unflexible? Maybe if you're retarded

>>160405453
Protip: The phrase "Jack of all trades, master of none" does not carry positive connotations.

Being bad at everything =/= being good at anything.

>>160390015
DCSS online

>>160391818
I knew you can do this, congratulations!

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>>160395381
>Tr is a challenge race!
>Chei is a challenge god!
>FE is the worst elemental start!

I love how tournament scoring always cuts right through all the bullshit people spew in this thread.

>>160405615

>master of none

100k turncount 3 rune shitter detected

>>160405798
Go rack up Hu points in the tournament if you're so right.

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>>160405078
Some possibly interesting points of comparison bolded.

Notably: among greaterplayers, they are actually quite popular and have a decent win-rate.
Overall though, they seem to be much *less* underplayed than Halflings, which have an astonishingly high overall win-rate for their low games count.

Don't accuse people of pulling shit out of their ass while you are doing it yourself.

>>160402981
>taking away half of the adventure and mystery

Why do you hate fun anon?

>>160405756
>Tr is a challenge race!
>FE is the worst elemental start!
Said literally (figuratively, hyperbolic) no one ever.

>>160405756
>worst elemental start
i don't think anyone in rlg has said that
FE is better than AE and EVERYTHING is better than VM

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Who needs fire resistance anyway? Not the Amy, that's for sure. :)

>>160405848

I don't like eating low hanging fruits

>>160405881
>comparitively low winrate even among underplayed species, let alone popular ones
>"decent"

Oh boy it's another Hufags making vague and arbitrary to the point of worthlessness statements of opinion episode. Nobody tried claiming Hu was Op/Fe/Mu tier.

By the way, those same statistics indicate that they're not particularly unpopular at all. Oops.

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>>160405756

That HOMo^Beogh is simply ebin

>>160406335
So you're saying you don't like playing Hu either.

>>160406560

Same to Minotaurs, Gargoyles and Centaurs. But maybe you do like them since those are all you can play.

>>160406682
I play all the species actually, and I'm beginning to question whether you play Crawl at all.

>>160406835
>playing Crawl

Seriously?

>>160406503
I don't understand your issue.
I think you're just making up stuff to be upset about.

>>160406835

>waaaaiii I played all the species waaaiii!
>3/5112 games 0.059% winrate

>>160406952
My issue is that people keep trying to claim Hu is a good, strong race (compared to others) in these threads when they're not. They're easily winnable like nearly everything sure, this is a game where multiple people have completed the fucking MuMo challenge after all, but statistically and practically they are simply worse than more specialized species and gameplay statistics reflect that.

Basically, the "muh strong versatility" shit is just a forced meme.

>>160407165
dswn is only one species

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I like JRPGs. Give me a roguelike.

pls

>>160407415

HuHu has only one tummy

>>160407638
Elona if you want grind that puts MMOs to shame. OWH if you want a good roguelike with some JRPG storytelling. Demon if you want SMT as a roguelike. Maidensnow and Dungeon and Prisoner if you want HJRPG Roguelikes.

>>160407638
One Way Heroics + all the way my dude.

>>160407745
>Dungeon and Prisoner
Stop trying to lure anons into playing something that's in NEVER EVER status.

>>160407745
>>160408030
Yeah it's best just to pretend D&P doesn't exist.
Maidensnow is pretty solid though.

i've literally never heard of dungeon and prisoner
what is it, and how many beeg anime tiddies does it contain

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time to play Uskayaw worshipper!

>>160408995
I would worship that tummy senpai

>>160408561
A game that's in dev hell forever. Wait a decade or so for it to be complete.

how bad would it be to go bows instead of crossbows as a formicid?
surely the lessened skill requirement makes up for the -2 apt

>>160410834
bows and xbows have power that is balanced with their xp cost

so yeah bows cost less than xbows but they also are weaker. as a formicid you are paying more xp for a worse weapon

the best part is that i -TO'd scylla so i'll get to fight her pack of friends again later

why is rlg so slow this morning?

>really good NaTm score
>go for a streak
>get FoMo of chei running
>fucking tank, nothing can hurt him as a statue ant of chei
>kill kill kill
>kill kill kill kill kill kill
>kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill
>more killing
>get bored and zone out
>tab to death on a non-unique panlord

fucking hell what a shitter

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>>160411393
forgot img

>shadowlords' big damage spell is nether instead of darkness storm
for what fucking purpose
they are LORDS of SHADOW

>>160411654

ur a Titty LOL! streak? more like ant steak!

>>160412124
I'm too good to probe/be familiar with every conceivable enemy attack at any given moment

you won't be killing any serpents with that attitude

>>160412186
that doesn't make any fucking sense
nor does it come anywhere close to rhyming

>>160412234
i didn't splat or anything, just looked it up in spoilers

but i'm not going near the entrance to Dark Cave for a while since i have no nether resist

>>160412186
yeah, got turned to ant crisps and put on a fabled Pandemonium Pizza

and now i'm thinking of water hounds and earth elementals both doing fucking acid damage
and how yellow hounds are elec but gold dragons are sound

and air hounds breathe poison gas but air elementals use lightning spells

FUCK angband elemental mostners

FUCK angband elemental monsters

how do I effectively build piety with Uska? 1v1 in corridor melee just doesn't fucking work at all and getting surrounded literally just kills you

>>160412657
axe

OTR used to be neat but usk no longer cares about poison damage

>>160390015
I wanna rape Cirno

>>160407745
>Dungeon and Prisoner will never work on my PC
Damn

>>160412657

>and getting surrounded literally just kills you

But I can do that with a SpEn surrounded by 4 or 6 death yaks/deep trolls and I'm just fine. If you get unlucky rolls, just walk away. If you're too mentally challenged to walk away or assess threats, try a MiFi/HOFi on long blades while training stealth to 27.

>>160413108
>Sp
boring

Is there a WW2 themed roguelike?

>>160413406
Armored Commander, although it's about tanks rather than infantry like you presumably want

>>160407412
Humans are superior, not "average". All slots and human xp growths make them one of the most durable race, and with 0 spell school apt they can pick up any book off the dungeon floor and use it. That's not adaptability, that's a guaranteed advantage.

>>160413564
>Armored Commander
Nah thats fine too, nothing wrong with tanks.

>>160414357
there's also an armcom 2 which IIRC is more roguelikey than the first one

>distortion obsidian axe
>randart (((dismissal))) amulet

While it's real fun, do I also deal irresistible damage to make this a viable endgame weapon? Can I banish even unique panlords/hell lords with this weapon?

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>>160412754

>>160414994
>obsidian axe
>distort
what
was it changed

Firestorm is fucking garbage.

>>160418101

what game?

>>160418486
Sil.

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Git rekt.
I went there a bit early and had some trouble with him cause he kept outhealing my damage, so in frustration I started hitting him in melee and got off a lucky confuse.
1/5 damage (due to his resists) magic darts were somehow enough until he woke up from confusion.

>>160418539
Are you playing on Inferno

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>>160418589
Fuck no
Fuck you

>>160418621
Get out

>>160418539

>Bloated

pottery

>>160418743
is ok bb

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>go to elf with no MR
>30 sorcerers and demonologists later
>still not banished
Niggas you have a ~50% chance of succeeding, I gotta do everything myself.

>>160418834
I swear if I ever see a new roguelike being developed that does not use a solid block as a symbol for wall I'm killing myself and the developer

just saying bc ur dcss looks really aesthetic

>>160418941
IMO It's fine as long as you can remap glyphs.
Letting players easily remap glyphs is one of the best things about ascii/unicode display.

And I do kind of like # walls in Sil.

>>160390239
Did you ever screwdriver a short rope on for a seatbelt?

>>160390982
NPC's have increased behavioral orders incl your allies not looting all your shit. You can roughly equip them. You can use meds on them to heal them up. They will path to an open seat with a seatbelt when you're on a vehicle so yes, you can drive a school bus turned APC with 20 NPC's equipped like http://is.4chan.org/vg/1479321953539.png . Better yet, you're an imam focused on speech, barter, tailoring, first aid, and fabrication for equipping your parish and supporting them by throwing pipe bombs and grenades in a fight. When you read, they'll listen in and gain skill allowing you to turn them from a zero to a hero without any risk. They watch your crafts and gain the relevant skill. When you batch craft or construct they assist you to speed it up.There's a ui for pushing them away or swapping positions if they're in the way and most importantly you can toggle them to close doors they pass. You can bulletin board more NPC's once you're stable and can support them. there's a also a rudimentary autopickup rules syste you can set for them.

Portals are still just for fucking yourself up and getting ganked by a flying polyp or flaming eye.

>>160391523
>Hair trimmer costs 10 batt and does fuckall morale
>Soap is more rare than the vehicle jacks you're obligated to have in every single fucking vehicle
They're madmen

>>160399638
Mansion or school is basically a guaranteed first aid guide. Otherwise, you should get about 2 per town between zombie and house drops.

>>160412657
Play a Mi or HO and ride axes and defense apts off into the sunset. You know it's working when you're taking 8 attacks a turn and you don't care.

>>160419535
I should have mentioned that I wanted to efficiently gain Uska piety without playing meme races with axes
I mean, MiFi^Usk is literally more brainless than MiBe
which means boring af tbqh senpai

>>160419689
But have you done it as the meme races to experience unlimited power? Don't let your dreams be dreams and smash dat MF tab

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>>160419841
you know what you're right I haven't touched gargoyles in months it's time for some GrFi^TUMMY
imma meme the fuck out of this gameme

>>160419841
>fight acidic zombie
>forget that I'm standing on acid
>break my legs
>search around the city for a first aid book so I can get the skill needed to craft splints
>shocker brute
>manage to defeat it
>zombie bio-operators
>try to hide in cathedral basement
>zombie brute there
>manage to kill it but my head has almost no health
It seems I'm staying here until I heal up

Atleast there are some blank bodies and I can make fires that don't spread

>>160420268
It's weird but once the pain wears off you're mostly fine. Any reason you're not using spears with reach attacks?

Turn your booze and string into improvised first aid kits? They removed its healing value but maybe you're still able to spam cotton balls from deconstructed pillows on a damaged limb for first aid 1?

>>160420593
Reach attack with spears?

Never heard of that, I'm using a knife spear and it's very damaged.

I don't have booze and there are no pillows in the cathedral

>>160420782
A bunch of spears have a reach attack. Use f when it says your item can be used to make reach attacks in the item description.

>>160420782
Just tried on my dumbo npc. Looks like you probably can't cotton ball your way up so you'll be stuck with improvised medkits.

>>160420880
Oh, I didn't know that

Seems useful, I'll use that

There's an evac shelter near so when I heal up I'll go check it out

>>160421001
Yeah, use shrubs, windows, or dig shallow pits to abuse. In a pinch, yo ucan use sprint with " for a short duration to move faster so you can get that initial damage in to slow an npc or zombie.