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Kokonoe! I need to keep practicing with her, I haven't even played with you guys in what feels like forever so I feel out of touch with netplay.

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tsubaki is the cutest!
someday i'll marry tsubaki!

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Izanami. I should've bought her System Voice

>>160322923
I'm gonna fuck this, and make Nine AND Platinum watch.

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>>160323246
same.

also, hurry up catdad

>>160323084
Where did the gay Azreal thing come from? Is there a meme I'm not aware of?

>>160323141
I just finished her arcade mode, I am not good with her at alllll. Still not happy with her time stops, they're cool but near useless.

How do you use her drive? I'm guessing you're supposed to use it at key points to be hyper aggressive in the middle of a combo and then withdraw it as soon as you can? Too bad I'm too shit to test it out though...

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>>160323551
Giant shirtless muscle man who "devours" people. It's not hard to see why fujos like him.

Anyone else get signed out of PSN?

>>160325950
I don't think so, but is that why no one is online right now?

>Izanami's 2B can low profile Nu's 5D
Now that's just dumb.

>>160323551
Not even a meme, it's a Japanese stereotype. In their minds muscley macho types are more likely degenerates than little twinks like Amane.

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>>160323551
Azrael looks like the Japanese gay stereotype. So does Drei, another character who shows no interest in women and who when shown pictures of girls in bikinis says that he has absolutely no interest in that.

>>160323810
>>160327440
>>160327707
>Being manly is gay

Is this why Japan thinks liking traps doesn't make you gay? Because a super girly boy is somehow straight compared to a macho guy?

>>160328458
Well whats gayer
A guy that drips masculinity, or a guy who doesn't

>>160328578
A guy that doesn't, that's why the stereotypical gay guy is a total campy fruitcake.

>>160329224
Its both anon.
People like all sorts of things. I like girly girls and tomboys. Gays have those choices as well.

>>160323613
Her Drive can be used easily on offense, but I also see JP players use it at range as if standard projectiles just to open the opponents up since it works well with her mobility.

>>160328458
Traps are a niche fetish. The idea that men obsessed with muscles who spend all their free time at a gym surrounded by other muscled men being gay isn't unique to Japan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08

BIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRDDSSS FLLLLYYYYY

Are Nu and Lambda difficult characters to learn/execute with? Which is easier? I love to zone but have very little time for labbing.

will naoto ever be easier to play?

>>160335807
lambda is 5 mins to learn every combo. shes not a zoner though.

>>160335868
Is Naoto like Makoto in that their drives only add an arbitrary execution barrier instead of a useful ability? Maybe that's why they were together and Makoto fell in love with him.

>>160335807
lambda is waaay easier to learn, simple gameplan and easy execution

her zoning isn't the greatest but much better now compared to CPEX

>>160335946
What combos are most useful/practical to learn for Lambda?

>>160336242
you can do whatever you want into 236b~6b. she corners really easy and builds meter fast, so you can either continue with corner combo or rc and chase after. all her shit is the same though. 6a 5c 6c 236d 236c 6c 5d 2d oki of your chice (well or wheel or spikes). throw goes into bunch of swords the murakumos have done forever. her overhead goes into the same 236b shit as above.

>>160336576
Is that 6A route for corner or midscreen? And is 6A or 2C the better AA?

>>160337228
if you are midscreen youll rc and dash up into 6a. if its corner, you dont have to rc. 6a is antiair. 2c is shit.

>>160337463
Thanks. Is her 22D good for much of anything besides running up and baiting reversals?

ded

>>160337815
Dont take my word on it but i think it works with 236a as a combo finisher
Not the same Anon btw

How do I fight Jin as Hibiki?

>>160341450
By pulling your cable off.

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Rachel best girl.

>>160341450
The same way you fight Ragna with Hibiki, but with more jump ins.

>10
Did everyone die

>>160345725
Must be the work of Susanoo

>>160346560
So must we die?

>>160345725
yep.

>>160346702
You must die

>>160346941
Only when you die

>>160347015
Wish you'll die

>>160347121
I'll give all this shit up

>>160347554
When you die

Does anyone know the full lyrics to MUST DIE yet? This is important.

>>160347635
Nope.
>>160335868
Get used to it. I've been rewatching Kamikaze play Naoto and the level of how fast he can just convert stray hits into enhanced moves is boggling my head.

Especially his anti-air 6D from midscreen into a fully enhanced combo into the corner.

susanoo is cute

>>160347863
I like how his shoulder-mouths actually attack.
The Triple Snake(?) theme is fully united through him.

I want Linhua to be playable.

Since like half the cast can dab, can they teach me how to dougie?

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>>160348001
I want Kajun to be playable desu no.

>>160348176
Her and Shiori getting mad at each other over Mai makes me wonder just how important that girl is to them. It reminded me of that dumb scene in Central Fiction where Tsubaki accuses Makoto of wanting to kill Noel for her dream and they end up fighting because of it.

>>160348687
Mai defines their entire existence.

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>>160348001
I want cat DILF already

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>>160348687
What are you talking about?

>>160348842
Mai is extremely important for Shiori, because she enabled Shiori to break free from her family and start living as a human being instead of a tool used for assassinations.

Kajun sees Mai as a dear friend, but she probably prioritizes Kokonoe and Sector Seven, seeing as how she always put her mission first while at the academy and only revealed the truth about being Kokonoe's agent to Mai only when it became absolutely necessary.

>>160349208
Yeah I know
Why are you telling me this again?

Did everyone get sucked into the embryo? Earlier it seemed to imply that only Rags, Noel and Rachel did

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>>160349208
>What are you talking about?
In the latest chapter Kajun and Shiori are panicing and arguing over what happened to Mai and snap at each other until Taro calms them both down and comes up with a plan to locate Mai, All they have to do is wait for Mai to summon Outseal and they can detect that signal. However if Mai's bringing it out it means she's in danger but it's the only method they have right now to find her. The chapter ends with a possible fight about to break out between her, Fuzzy and Ragna the bloodedge.

>>160336048
>Is Naoto like Makoto in that their drives only add an arbitrary execution barrier instead of a useful ability?
Not even close

>>160349330
Mai does not by any means define Kajun's existence. She has other things in her life. That applies much more to Shiori, but it's justified by her past since she had nothing before meeting Mai.

>>160349401
That argument can be justified by the fact Kajun screwed up by losing Mai, so Shiori has a reason to be angry at her.

Izzy's voices gets me going.
Nine's animations too.

>>160349392
Yup. Rags just got there first.

https://twitter.com/sonicfox5000/status/797922540312231937
>that blaz blue medal
CAN HE BE STOPPED?

>>160351929
Fuck. Incoming Jubei posters.

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>>160352142
You called?

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>>160351929
Not so fast, furfags

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ZEA

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a hero arrives to save the day! Leave the jubeifags to me

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>>160352790

>>160352790
How can you post Neos when a good portion of the Neo-Spacians are furries

>>160351929
>beat the 4 other weebs that entered trash tournament

still more wins than me i guess.

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>new Rachel doujin
>yuri
I already knew it the moment I saw what artist it was but I'm still frustrated

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Leave everyone to me.

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>>160354019
try me....

>>160354427
Don't do it,anon. Do you not know who that is?

>>160355862
Can she beat the cock?

>>160356845
She wouldn't be able to resist the barb.

>>160354427
なんかキモイ。

Okay faggots. I need advice. I have like 5% win rate in CF at the moment and I've been playing BB since CT.

I think I'm doing offense "wrong". Because all my opponents can keep up their offense, seemingly without any gaps in their attacks. How? Whenever I get a chance to be on the offense, I do my blockstring, finish it and then the opponent is again free to do whatever. What am I doing wrong?

>>160358530
You're either ending your blockstrings with a move that's really minus and lets them press a button to get out, doing the exact same blockstring every time you get them to block so they know what's coming and what to do, or they're using barrier to push you back so you can't keep making them block / using Instant Block to make your moves worse on block so they have more frames to escape.

Who do you play, Anon?

>>160358785
Literally any character. Lambda, Es, Kokonoe, Ragna and many others.

>or they're using barrier to push you back
I always hear this but this literally makes no difference to me. I try to barrier block my opponent attacks and it does jack shit. They can STILL keep pressuring me. I guess it pushed them back further but I don't see the benefit. Hell, sometimes NOT using barrier block seems better because the opponent is in range for somehting like 5A or 2A.

>>160359060
Barrier does increase pushback, but it also increases how long you're in blockstun, so using it poorly can just lead to you being in a longer blockstring against people who know how to press their frame advantage.

If you're on right now, I'll get off UNIEL and come play you to see what you're doing. I'm not very good either, so you don't have to worry about that.

>>160359342
I'm done for the night but thanks anyway. I need to get to sleep soon. I'd just like to know if there is some general rule I should follow.

This isn't nearly as much of a problem for me in Melty for example. This is leading to many boring matches. Either I just try whatever and get counter hit every time OR I just keep blocking untill the end of the round. And whenever I get a chance to be on the offense, I just get one chance, then it's off to being attacked.

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>>160359675
Melty has Reverse Beat or whatever like UNIEL, doesn't it? You can always cancel your blockstrings back into a fast normal in those games so you're not horribly minus, which can even let you extend blockstrings. You can't do that here, so you have to choose how you want to end it based on the situation, whether you want to be safe and go back to neutral or trying to bait them into pressing a button so you can get a counterhit with something faster / has invuln against that button. It certainly has more risk involved and a lot of higher level players incorporate stagger pressure and delaying their strings. Which you can do in those other games as well, but it feels more important here.

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>tfw I land a hit

>>160360459
When are they announcing Yu Narukami and Byakuya tho

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>>160360887
>Wanting Byakuya in Blazblue before they add my waifu

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>>160360887
>Not SHO Minazuki and Nanase

>>160361337
>waifufags
>better than pupwa

>>160361551
they have a drive to get good (their waifu)
pupwa has none and has stayed at a consistently low level of skill

>>160361238
>nanase
>NOT SHIT
Boy. Besides, if I really could pick any persona character it'd be Labrys.

>>160362049
let me see those wafiufags beat him.

>>160362934
You can't.
He litterally does not appear outside of /blaz/ lobbies.
Believe me I looked.

>>160361337
Jubeifags will be at the top of this list next month.

>>160361337
>skd>fenrich
SKD made this didn't he

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>>160362049
>pupwa
>not a waifufag

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Come on,/blaz/. I'll show you the power of a GOD

Noon here looking to play tsubaki. Not gonna let tiers dissuade me but is she good? Bad?

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>>160363654

>>160363823
Tsubaki is pretty good in this game. No real negatives outside of not really having any specialties. Not as good as Izayoi, but she's up there.

>>160363692
dont post my fursona

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>>160363823
She's good.

She's unga.

>>160364482
hammer is the only unga thing about her

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>>160364427
Commencing Termination of target.

>>160363823
S tier

>>160361337
>EU PC
???? Is this true or something you just put on there since nobody outside the EU can really disprove it.

So with Carl's new personality and lack of depth perception, how long do you think it'll take for Ada/Nirvana to flip her lid?
If things keep going the way they're headed, she'll end up another Ignis or worse, which raises some odd questions about their relationship.

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>>160366632
There's no backstory given for Ignis, but being his wife I always felt she was a willing participant in Relius' awesomeness. But Ada does seem to have a conscience. I'm guessing around the time Carl starts trying to make his own kumos she'll walk away.

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Hey Anon, we're going to go take down Relius Clover

>>160366632
If only Ragna had met them again. He'd say something like "Are you really okay with letting your brother carry on like this? When the younger sibling loses his way, it's the job of the older sibling to set them straight."

And then Ada would take his advice to heart and smack Carl whenever he does something stupid.

>>160367939
sorry bud you missed /v/
this is /vg/

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Do you think Hibiki actually cooks regularly in this outfit?

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>mfw I can finally link my float 5C combos instead of always relying on float 5B for Izzy

I don't know the combo routes after the 2nd float 3C but fuck man does it feel good being able to do this shit. Time to lab it out

>>160368049
>taking advice from Ragna on how to handle siblings

>>160369074
On that note, who in Blazblue actually played the sibling role right? Makoto? She technically has a bunch of little siblings and she joined the NOL to help support her family, but none of them appear or seem unhealthily dependent on her.

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>floor 100 in abyss
>yolo astral with susanoo cause about to die to izanami
>see she did something, know I'm gonna win cause my astral will beat it
>she fucking did her super command throw and beat my astral
>game over

there is no blazblue that can give me a boner
prove me wrong

>>160369321
Ragna played the older brother role so well that his sister wants to fuck him.

>>160370414
>that his sister wants to fuck him
This isn't playing the older brother role right, anon.

So is Hibiki high tier or low tier

>>160370497
All's I'm saying is if your sister loves you so much that you're literally all she ever thinks about, you must have done SOMETHING right.

>>160371067
high or high mid

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>>160371103
This, bro/sis love is the best.

>>160371127
He feels kinda super gimmicky though, like once people realize what he's doing his mxiup will be a lot weaker

>>160371103
>Like fostering serious dependence and non-familial boundaries.
Endearing to Ragna maybe, but he may well have crippled her independence and mental stability more by coddling her than if he had straight-up been abusive. Best dad was the only one who did parenting right.

>>160371582
Nah, it's not Ragna's fault, it's just the Origin's fault for making her other selves so damn crazy. Ragna doesn't coddle Saya much in the flashbacks.

>>160371801
Why was the Origin so fucked up in the first place? Wasn't it because she liked Ragna?

>>160371582
You're an idiot. If everyone started abusing their kids and siblings just on the off-chance that being affectionate would them would end up having an adverse effect on them, the human race would probably go extinct.

Also, remember that the only reason the first Prime Fields recreated the world at all was out of love for her brother. Without him, she would have left it a wasteland.

>>160372090
Does anyone have that pic of her being stabbed by humans? I need that to fap

>>160372090
She was tortured, executed and forced to absorb the despair of all Prime Fields. Ragna was her only source of hope.

>>160372090
It's not clear what happened in the past with the Origin and Ragna. She's a prime field, so by all rights Ragna shouldn't be her brother. The girl she was probably based on, though, could have a brother.

>>160372359
>he thinks pdfs can't have brothers
I'll have you know they're born

HOW DO I BEAT JIN

>>160369321
Older sibling in BlazBlue
>Ragna: ........
>Nine: Unhealthy obsession over Celica.
>Ada: Carl is in the process of turning into arch villain.

There's also the tangential question who played the role of parent right.
>Jubei: Bigger priorities than Kokonoe.
>Nine: “Kokonoe? What's that? Sure as fuck not Celica.”
>Relius/Ignis: Traumatized Carl, then cut him loose to fend for himself. Lets not mention Ada.
>Clavis: Gives daughter an immortal body that can't age past 11.
>Celica: Raises Ragna to be the man she falls in love with.

It's kinda hard to judge off-screen families like the Nanayas and Vermillions.

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>>160372582
Thanks my man
>>160372552
Man Nine is literally me

>>160371305
Can somebody shoop this into Izanami please.

>>160372552
Didn't Ragna raise himself tho

>>160372359
>calling Relius a liar
Bet you think Terumi and Mori lie too.

>>160372512
They're cooked up out of a lab and are crystallized pieces of seithr, not born. The only siblings they can have are other prime fields, and those are all girls.

>>160372942
>this nigga doesn't know

>>160372740
Relius doesn't say anything about the Origin and Ragna being her brother or not.

Mori is a max liar though, he even called himself that.

>>160372721
Preadolescent Ragna was raised in a lab. Adolescent/teenage Ragna raised in church by Celica. Teenage/adult Ragna raised by Jubei.
With Jubei he had a lot of independence, but I wouldn't quite say he raised himself.

>>160372974
I have no clue what you're being coy about. What Relius says about making prime fields? They're still artificial humans created from either a preexisting base, a doll, and Black Beast jizz genes. They aren't born the same way a human is, they're artificial. Ragna, Jin, and Saya are only siblings because they're all "children" of a previous prime field.

>>160372170
>Taking post that says best dad did parenting right at face value
Autism

>>160373228
I mean, wasn't Celica so incompetent Ragna had to do everything himself?

>>160372942
>>160372974
>>160373072
>>160373319
Here's their whole conversation about pfds and what No5 was taken from.
pt1
>Relius:
>The creation process of prime field devices isn't set in stone, and it differs between creators.
>Concerning materials... For the “female” side, a human can be used as the base, or built completely artificially. For example, the “dolls” in which I specialize are affixed with a soul.
>There are several other types, but... For the “male” side, in other words the “father” of the artificial body... The catalyst is the “Black Beast”.

>Izanami:
>How ironic... In other words, I too am indirectly a child of the “Black Beast”.

>Relius:
>A “child” you say... It's a little different, but that doesn't matter.
>While production methods differ, it involves breeding the female with the Black Beast. Your body is no exception. Other prime field devices were based off of it as either backups or research materials.

>Izanami:
>...Does that include “them”?

>Relius:
>Do you mean Ragna the Bloodedge and Jin Kisaragi? ...Yes, you could call them “children” of “No. 5”.

>Izanami:
>...You mentioned “No. 5” again. You said before that it was an “irregularity among irregularities”... What do you mean by that?

>Relius:
>...”That” was not my creation. Another person created it, based off my research.

>Izanami:
>Hm... I see. If that's the case, I understand. There wouldn't be irregularities among the things you create, after all.

>>160374079
pt2
>Relius:
>The man who taught me how to create a body that could contain even a “god” was my late friend... “Shuichiro”.

>Izanami:
>“Friend”? That's an unusual word to hear from you...

>Relius:
>I'm simply mocking myself for my own ignorance. Regardless there are far too many unknown factors regarding “No. 5”.
>This was decades ago... No, considering the current time, hundreds of years ago would be more accurate. Back then, there was a girl who took the same form as your vessel.
>She could amplify seither indefinitely, devouring the souls of humans, and taking the power for her own... It would truly be appropriate to call her a “monster”.

>Izanami:
>...What happened to such a “monster”?

>Relius:
>She was defeated, by her own brother... Or more accurately, I should say that she was “consumed”.
>I can still recall the sight. It was truly beautiful.
>“No. 5” is a duplicate of that “monster,” so perfect that you could call it the real thing. I was most curious how it was created... But learning that would be impossible now.

>Izanami:
>...Interesting.

>>160373790
That's probably true in some ways, but she was a mother figure. She helped him get over his over protectiveness and probably some other things that weren't shown.

>>160373790
Celica is incompetent at finding her way out of a paper bag, but she did take care of the kids pretty well as far as we saw -- cooking, cleaning, etc. She took care of Ragna when he fell ill, so there was that.

>>160374920
That's what 80 years of living in the middle of nowhere will do for you. She's just a really fucking slow learner.

>>160348176
She probably will be if CF isn't the last game in the franchise

I'm praying to Izzy for a second BB anime, focused around the RH/VH character. Some awkward yuri between Mai and Kajun would be hot

How exactly do Ada, Ignis and Minerva communicate without talking?

>>160375937
Wifi

>>160375937
They talk, but some people can hear them. Celica and Valkenhayn can understand Nirvana just fine. Celica can hear Minerva even before Kokonoe is finished tuning them. Despite everything, Ragna can never hear Minerva lel.

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>>160375926
I'd love such an anime, but the odds of it happening is pretty much zero. The first anime was made to promote CP and its sales bombed.

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>>160369321
Well Tao seems to be pretty nice to the little ones. I wouldn't mind her as an older sister desu.

someone post cute tsubakis

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Arakune

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>>160376809

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>>160376809

>>160377159
How would Tsubaki react to someone other than Jin impregnating her? Would she abort?

>>160377416
She would accept it after some more sex she is really prone to mindbreaking

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>>160376809

>>160377502
I think you're right, she's a weak girl

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>>160377416
Jin-nii-san's the love of her life. If it's not his it gets the rusty coathanger and is never spoken of again.

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>>160377416
Abort, retry or fail.

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>>160376809

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Wut

>>160378621
The black beast marked it's territory.

>>160378621
That's not Ragna's emblem, that's the BlazBlue emblem. Behold, Makoto's left tit has the power of the Azure.

Reminder that the world's foundation is literally the excessive love a girl has for her older brother. If it weren't for that, the world wouldn't exist.

>>160379138
More like if it wasn't for that, we could've just had the old world instead where humans would've won against the dolls

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>>160376809

>>160379458
I think the original black beast destroyed that world.

>>160379740
Takamagahara was going to revert things back, it just didn't get the oppritunity to because The Origin created a new world using the Black Beast instead

Stop posting that cunt Tsubaki

>>160374208
>Saya was named after her own mother
>Izanami is basically a replica of that woman as well
>All of the Sayas had some sort of weird hatelust relationship with their brothers
>Izanami's personality is a fusion of No. 5 (based off of Saya) and Blazblue's Saya
>Both of Ragna's mothers and sisters are attracted to him, as well as his brother and all of the clones of his sister
Fucking hell, Mori, the incest subtext in these games is ridiculous.

>>160380378
And yet he never scored. You now see the genius of it. Praise be to Mori, the ultimate blueballer.

>>160380378
We're talking about Japan here, it's the subtext for the whole culture

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>>160374208
>>She was defeated, by her own brother... Or more accurately, I should say that she was “consumed”.
>>I can still recall the sight. It was truly beautiful.
Do you think Naoto literally ate Saya or he got soul eater suddenly?

>>160380614
t. Japanese culture expert

>>160380680
Please tell me Naoto wasn't the orgin's or no5's brother.

>>160380680
Maybe Bloodedge has some hidden power to consume others, or drive them crazy. Raquel did get sad upon finding out that was his drive.

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i want him to wreck me with a jump in

>>160380680
nah the ragna in his head that gives him sugar daddy power ups consumed her.

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what's a good idea for a "help me professor kokonoe"-style visual novel game?

>>160381097
No.5 was based on Saya

>>160380591
>BlazBlueballer

>>160379840
Even if they did, they couldn't that was the problem with Takamagahara, no matter how many times they could rewind things back they could not make a single change, Es had this same problem in Xblaze lost memories she wanted to save Touya and crew from Freaks yet he killed them all every single time that Es's hear broke and she threw her memories away to try and cope with the pain of not being able to protect her loved ones, if Celica had never wondered into the Phantom Field by accident, Es never would of been saved.

>>160382301
>no matter how many times they could rewind things back they could not make a single change
Except that Relius specifically stated that they had a plan in mind using Takamagahara to prevent it all from happening. He didn't specify what, but since it was after his explanation that Takamagahara's use previous to that was basically that of a "toy", it clearly could serve some other purpose.

Also I don't see why you're bringing up Es incident when Es failure was due to the lack of an X-factor to change things. She and Takamagahara operates differently in that Takamagahara is designed, meaning it can be influenced from the outside to have other types of features. Like they outright stated that Takamagahara was their plan to stop it all, not because of it just making the events repeat itself, but because of The Origin herself making its functions cooperate with her own when reconstructing the world.

>>160365090
Where do you people find these images? Is there a mass rip of story mode character CG's somewhere?

>walk up to cab
>opponent selects the music
>BGM select: MUST DIE
How do you react?

>>160382834
WHEN YOU DIE

>>160382641
Have you tried the wiki?

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>>160380378
>>160380591
I can only imagine what madman Mori would have done if asw didn't have him on a rated-teen leash.

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>>160382641
Sorry anon, if you want that information, you'll have to get it after you've defeated me!

>>160383031
Is Mai dumb? That is a really dumb fighting pose. Like dumber than most dumb fighting poses in this game


If she was dumb I would like her more, dumb girls are hot

>>160383143
I'm glad that Mai isn't dumb. I find retard moe annoying rather than endearing.

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>>160383031

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It has been decided.

>>160383339
I didn't meant in retard moe I meant it like those hot girls that are really dumb and only have their looks going for them. That's kinda good for some faps

>>160383143
You're dumber than you want mai to be if you can't recognize that it isn't a "fighting pose" but jumping overhead swing.

>>160383427
I kinda wish those things had a sharper point or something. They don't look like they would hurt that much if I don't get the idea that they can pierce through you

>>160383437
I prefer girls that can take care of themselves and that you could have a conversation with, so I'm happy that Mai does have a brain.

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>>160383513
Jumping overhead swings are not practical too, pretty dumb thing to do

>>160383608
I wanna touch Susanoo's cute little belly button.

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>>160380193
no! post more tsubakis!

>>160383656
Good thing this thread is scientific combat simulator 2016, deadliest warrior edition, presented by spike tv general. Could you imagine if this was an anime game thread?

>>160383901
You called me dumb I had to go full autismo after that

>>160383549
Not him, but do you fucking role play when you fap or some shit? I can understand wanting brains on a real girl, but having that kind of preference when it comes to fapping to fictional girls seems borderline autistic.

>>160384074
that's because you are dumb

>>160384161
You don't know that, you can't accuse me of that and it's very rude to do so. At least I don't go out looking for a fight against Relius

>>160384106
No, but I find a dumb character to be less likeable in general. And when it comes to waifus instead of just fapping then other traits matter.

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>>160383543
Magic son

>>160383803
I want to rub his tail

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>>160383543
Oh,really?

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>>160383851
I'd rather post some of that boy sitting next to her.

>>160384368
that's a pretty cute tsubaki.

tfw you will never be able to touch her boobs.

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>>160384410

>>160384391
Those are the spooky skeleton heads they bite that hurts, those doritos don't look that dangerous.
It's probably my autism that makes me think that they should look like they could pierce you though

>>160384391
>Izzy summoning boners.png

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>Shanty homemade hitbox finally cracked open
>Can't play anymore CF
I never should have trusted Acrylic, but then again it was cheap.
Anyone got any suggestions for stick cases?

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>>160384410
I'm not a boy!

>>160384357
Right, well, you do you boo. Long as you're not being an ass about it I have no right to complain about your tastes.

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>>160384884
I heard otherwise.

>>160384884
So why is Noel considered flat again

>>160384884
What's she shooting at?

Someone explain Tsubaki and Jin's relationship to me? Why does Tsubaki call Jin brother? As far as I'm aware, they're not related? Then again from what I understand this series has so many "Surprise X is really a clone from another universe of your sister from the past (future)" shit I have no idea what's going on half the time.

What the heck? I thought fighting games just had excuse plots most of the time but this has some of the deepest lore I've ever seen.

>>160372552
Jubei had two younger brothers and only one of them died. Pretty good record.

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>>160383031
If you say so

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>>160385038
Just look at who she's being compared to.

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>>160385038
Because she's surrounded by titty monsters.

>>160385172
Tsubaki literally met Jin once a year when they were kids. During one of these meetings she asked Jin if she can call him brother and Jin was just "OK I guess". They're not related in any way.

The fact that Tsubaki's life-long obsession over Jin stemmed from almost nothing is rather funny. Then again the same applies to Litchi and Trinity as well.

>>160385073
Susanoo after he bodies everyone else. Her excuse for such an act was that she didn't want Ragna and anyone else to get hurt, Susanoo gets angry and just chokes her out while she cries for Ragna..err Nii-sama as she passes out.

>>160385172
She calls him Jin-nii-sama to mark their closeness, because he was like a brother to her and the closest person in age to her when the Duodecim families would meet every month. It's not uncommon in anime for two people that aren't actually related to refer to each other by nii-san/nee-san.

>>160385361
Well he probably was the first boy her age she ever met and only one she could talk to. I'm sure if she had interacted with more boys before she would have chosen someone who is not a cunt like Ragna

>>160385589
The duodecim met once a year. Tsubaki dedicated her life to a boy she saw once a year.

>>160385652
Technically there was also Mai who was her age.

>>160385038
Because Mori's standards for flat average and big is fucked. Normal breasts are small. large ones are medium. and gross head sized breasts are just ''big''.

>>160385742
They met once a month.

"Each time we left the house, it was to visit one of the other twelve families and the
hierarchical city they governed. January was the Usuki family. February, the
Kisaragis. March was our family...and so on. Each month, Father and I would visit a
different house."

>>160385742
Yeah that's right, but they didn't seem to have met, or when Tsubaki/Jin's relationship was thought of Mai wasn't a thing. Anyway she did get more time with him in the academy so it's not that absurd

>>160385361
>>160385589
Thanks for that. I got some more questions if you don't mind.

The world of BlazBlue keeps like... repeating itself or something right? Like it's caught in some time loop? Why is that? There's a lot of emphasis on observing things, which I think is something like "I can remember shit that happened in another timeline" or something?

Also, what's up with Hakumen? I know he's like... Jin, in the future or something? But he's also one of the 6 Heroes who fights the Black Beast, which happens in the past. So how does that work out? How do you get Future Jin (Past) going?

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>>160385172
Tsubaki's in love with him because he's a hot aloof dick, and calls him brother because it gets her off.

>I thought fighting games just had excuse plots most of the time but this has some of the deepest lore I've ever seen.
It's called Mori Magic.

>>160385994
Where does the idea that Jin is from the future come from?

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>>160385924
Fair enough. I forgot that all the duodecim gathered and thought it was a meeting solely between the two families.

>>160386140
The idea that Hakumen is Jin from the future, I mean.

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>>160385924
Still pretty funny Tsubaki was utterly obsessed with a kid that clearly didn't give a shit about her.

>>160385994
Oh boy, I'm guessing you started with CP or CF?

Yes, the world was caught in a timeloop for many years. The start of this timeloop is the Dark War, where the Black Beast emerged in Japan in 2100 and laid waste to the world. The end is 2200, where Ragna goes to Kagutsuchi's Cauldron to destroy Nu, but they end up helping to complete the loop because they form the Black Beast. Observers like Rachel, and special cases Terumi, are the only ones who carry their memories over.

Hakumen is from a cycle where there was no Noel. Every Hakumen is from this cycle, don't question it too much, the Boundary did it. Jin jumped into the Cauldron after Ragna and Nu, and it spat him out on the eve of the Dark War.

>>160386176
>>160386278
How lonely was this chick. Like damn. I legit think she might try to stab her friend if she ever hears her blurt out "Jin-nii-sama" now which she probably will since she's Saya reborn and Saya loved Jin,too.

>>160386509
Tsubaki did go off and try to murder Noel because she had become Jin's secretary instead of herself.

>>160386264
Dunno. I just asked my friend about it and she's like "These four girls are clones of his guy's sister, who is this person" and "this guy is this guy in the future, who is the brother of the first guy"

She refused to elaborate further because she thought my confusion was funny.

>>160386331
Started with Central Fiction after playing it at a friend's house, yeah. The in game glossary gives me twice as many questions as it answers I swear. Questions like "Why the hell is there an entry about Bullet's hotpants in here?" I also started watching the anime in case it helps.

So like... if the time loop starts with the Black Beast appearing and ends with the Black Beast appearing... it's not like it cycles together right? It's not like the Black Beast at the start of a time loop only appears because a Black Beast is spawned at the end of the time loop right?

>>160386645
Stop that! Hazama fucked with her head with his snake. Don't make it out like Tsubaki would do that of her own will!

>>160386509
>Tsubaki
>hurting her precious friends
Saya wasn't hyper in love with Jin, they had a strained relationship

>>160385994
So briefly, there's a girl in a machine that has many god-like powers because of reasons. One of her powers is to rewind time, which she does every time she observes her brother, Ragna, getting killed. Or if something else she really doesn't like happens. Since there was always one particular incident that caused Ragna to more or less die, which was merging with Nu into the black beast, she kept rewinding time from that point. And since rewinding time didn't get rid of the black beast it was sent back in time and a loop was formed.

Jin was always right there when the black beast formed so got to go back in time too, at which point he became Hakumen.

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>>160386702
She wasn't hyper in love with Jin, but they didn't have a strained relationship. They have a pretty normal sibling relationship.

>>160386942
They were sent back in time because they fell into a cauldron

>>160387087
Just falling into a cauldron doesn't send you back in time. Otherwise Hazama would be back in time right now. Also that would be a way for Relius to go back in time and see how No.5 was made.

The master unit and Nine are the ones that manipulate time.

>>160386942
Oh god so the black beast only formed because it got sent back in time?

...But wait, the Black Beast created seipthr or whatever after it died right? And that's what made all the magic and ars magus stuff? Including shit like the cauldrons? So.... to me it sounds like a condition for the black beast being formed is that it already must of existed so how the fuck does THAT work?

>>160387059
Did the story explain how the hell that sword got there? CS's stinger at the end about Saya giving to Jin seems to have been reconned,it looked like things happened

>Ragna goes with Saya to pick berries
>Seithr monster attacks Saya
>Saya gets scared and unleashes her power that destroys the monster but knocks her out
>This is when her being sickly started
>Sometime later Ragna goes to get water
>Jin finds the Yukianesa in the chapel
>Jin becomes detranged by the sword aplifying his jealousy towards Saya and twisting his love of Ragna to hatred
>In that daze he cuts down the barrier surrounding the church and starts convulsing on the floor until Celica finds him and tries to take the sword from him
>Terumi kills Celica from behind with his nox, she dies instantly
>Jin comes too, still under the swords influence and cuts off Ragna's arm when he enters the church
>Terumi taunts Ragna inflicts Mind Eater on Saya and takes her away.

So how exactly did the sword get there? Celica would never have such a dangerous weapon in her church, she was a pacifistic living in an area with a massive spell field designed to keep them isolated from the outside world where only Juebi,Rachel and Valkenhyne would be able to pin point their position.

>>160387652
Seithr has always existed
Cauldrons have always existed

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Would you like your bloodline to be as pure as Tsubaki's?

>>160387754
Did you play the game? Saya gives it to Jin in that flashback. She's super insistent he take it.

>>160388135
Where'd she get it?

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>>160387652
A Black Beast existed in the very distant past too. In one ending of CT, the Black Beast is formed out of the Cauldron. Hazama tried to become a Black Beast with Mu too.

Seithr has always existed, it leaks out from the Cauldrons. The Black Beast just made it zoom to record numbers.

>>160388286
Hazama probably lured her to the edge of Celica's barrier and broke her mind then gave it to her. Dunno for sure, it's probably covered in one of the CT light novels.

>>160388372
Excuse me, I mean outside of the Cauldron. Referring to the ending you get by Distortion/Astral Finishing everything with Ragna.

>>160387652
>Oh god so the black beast only formed because it got sent back in time?
Not quite. This black beast was formed in the cauldron during the 'present', but since it was formed from Ragna, the master unit didn't like it so intervened and rewound time. I might be misremembering, but in one of the earlier games it explained that the black beast is immune to that type of intervention so stayed the same while the rest of the world reset to the past, effectively sending it back in time.

You're right about it overfilling the world with seither, but it was always available through cauldrons and such. And yeah, BlazBlue and time paradox.

>>160388463
That is what happened in the novel and you can tell something is wrong with Saya during the scene she gives the sword to Jin, she's not all talking like herself.

>>160388081
Only if its for the sake of preserving her attractiveness and redness.

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>>160388081
>tfw Tsubaki can't fuck her brothers because they're all dead

>>160388879
That's why she had to resort to calling Jin brother.

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>>160385994
Once upon there was a bunch of asshole scientists who found a Cauldron, the Gate of Sheol. It led to the Boundary, and in the deepest part of the Boundary was the Azure, so they created prime field devices to explore the Boundary in the hopes of obtaining that power. They found the Susanoo Unit, and then the Master Unit Amaterasu. They wanted to create a perfect world with no conflict, so they made a prime field to send to the Azure and gain the power of a god to fulfill this dream. The prime field gained the power of the Eye, the power to observe anything and make it real. And it had gained a soul, and a will of its own. Suddenly fearing what they had created, the scientists killed it and sent it back into the Boundary. Once it contacted the Master Unit however, it was revived.

The prime field, the Origin, saw the suffering of other prime fields as they were turned into weapons. She wanted them to be accepted as humans. A war broke out between the prime fields and humanity. Weapons like Sealed Armament Izayoi were created during this time. Eventually, humanity created the Black Beast with the hope of destroying everything then using Takamagahara to start things over. Unfortunately, Takamagahara made a fatal mistake: the Origin started rebuilding the world first. And what she wanted was to live a normal life with her brother. Again and again she rewound time, hoping to create a world where her brother would come and save her, to no avail until CF.

>>160388081
That's a very nice way of saying 'downsie retard mutant babies'

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>>160389136
Wow, this explanation actually makes some sense and I can understand it. Seriously, thanks for that. So... who was the original Prime Field? Who is her brother? It's not going to be Ragna is it? He's fucking everyone's brother

>>160389443
Yep, it's Ragna. His soul served as the foundation of the original Black Beast that destroyed the world.

The nice thing about most of the NOL girls is that they just want love

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>>160389634
That's true. Good thing they provide that to each other.

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>>160389443
When Ragna finally talks to the Origin, she calls him brother. So yeah, it's Ragna, or whoever Ragna was during that time period. She also accuses him of him abandoning her and trying to kill her when he became the Black Beast.

One moral of the BlazBlue is that humanity constantly tampers with things beyond its understanding, that humans are greedy and do things only to suit themselves. The other moral is not give up, and to have hope.

>>160379458
We wouldn't. The Black Beast destroyed both sides. Humanity didn't win.

>>160382570
Humanity's plan hinged entirely on beating the Origin and taking the Azure for its own. They didn't count on the Origin "winning" instead.

What's the deal with Naoto being a existential threat to Ragna?

>>160390048
I was telling them the Black Beast was no good, but they called me racist. Now look at them, their civilization was destroyed.

>>160390341
Naoto and Ragna are possibilities of each other, or something like that. Their existences are close enough that it makes Ragna's less stable, and may even overwrite his. Fighting him also makes Ragna feel terrible and weak.

Might be something like reincarnation, or reoccurring existences. Naoto finds Makoto similar to his aunt Yuki, and Makoto says that Es's name feels nostalgic. Yuki was a character in XBlaze too, and knew Es.

>>160382570
There were two problems with Takamagahara:
1) It could only perform Interventions on a large scale. So basically, it could reverse time, but couldn't introduce smaller variations. As a result, if Takamagahara could only repeat the same events over and over. However, if it obtained the Azure, that flaw would be resolved.
2) As an observation unit, it had less authority than the Master Unit. Thus, the Master Unit would be able to supercede it no matter what.

So in order for Takamagahara to function the way humanity wanted it to, they needed to destroy the Master Unit. That's why they created the Black Beast. It didn't matter how huge the casualties were, as long as they destroyed the Master Unit, they could achieve their goal.

They failed.

>>160390530
Naoto didn't weaken Ragna. It just creeper him the fuck out.

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What the fuck is even going on in the BB story? I stopped playing in BBCSIIE

>>160390917
A very well written and executed story. You missed out.

>>160390530
And one is from Japan, the other in some fantasy world?

Why wouldn't Ragna overwrite Naoto's existence?

>>160391121
We don't know what was going on. For all we know, Naoto could have been in just as much if a threat. The point is Naoto was an unstable element and just by being there, he had the potential to fuck everything out. He was a foreign body who didn't belong.

Fighting Naoto really creeps Ragna out, as if he's fighting a mirror. This despite the fact that he was kicking Naoto's ass.

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Blazblue is...

>>160391002
You say the silliest things at times, anon

>>160391307
but they barely look alike

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>>160391319

>>160391319
game has so many characters, game is too anime, girls dont wear enough clothing, wait for next version, story is too confusing, skd is overrated

>>160389906
That's exactly what Rachel says, Humans are greedy,selfish and stupid creatures..but they're also capable of great kindness,valor and selfless actions for others. It extends to Raquel as well, she was disgusted at humanity and viewed Naoto to be a dirty coward and just another useless human until he proved her wrong when he came back and tried to help her fight off spinner's bug despite being a normal high school boy at that point and no match for the bug, it cost him his arm for that action. All the protagonists have demonstrated humanity's good points. Touya,Ragna,Celica,Mai

>>160391121
The blazblue world is earth btw

>>160391769
>Celica
I thought Nine was the protagonist of Lost Memories.

>>160391720
These are the complaints you see so many times that they warrant them being memes btw

So I've been watching the anime in the hopes that it will help explain the story and...

What the fuck is up with Jin being the glasses wearing senpai in a highschool setting? What the fuck? You mean he isn't ALWAYS a douchey edgelord?

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>>160391319
>>160391717
How do we manipulate these results?

>>160392034
Jin's an edgelord even then, but he wears a mask during that time. He just stops giving a fuck after the Ikaruga Civil War.

>>160391987
Protagonists:
Ragna: CT, CS, CP, CF, Phase 0
Kazuma: Phase Shift 1
Celica: Phase Shift 2-4
Jin: Spiral Shift
Touya: Code Embryo
Nine/Es: Lost Memories
Mai: Remix Heart, Remix Heart Gaiden, Variable Heart
Naoto: Bloodedge Experience

>>160392034
>I've been watching the anime in the hopes that it will help explain the story
Think I've found your problem.

>>160392120
That's... somehow reassuring

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>>160392034
Jin was always a dick.

>>160392157
What, is it inaccurate or something? I can't really tell but from what I do know it seems more or less accurate for thea job events?

>>160392034
Okay so the thing about Jin is that he's an antibody, with an emotion amplifying night-night-thing
He's fucked in the head by default

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>>160391405
This is the only time they look kind of alike to me

>>160391821
kek next you're going to tell me guilty gear's world is earth too

>>160392336
Naoto's probably younger than Ragna when they meet.
What the fuck is up with all of those belts? Are they seals?

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>>160391002

>>160391987
If you want to put it that way, the protagonists of the franchise are Ragna,Celica,Touya,Mai,Es and Naoto, Nine never takes a main roll, she's more of device so that the actual protagonists can get to where they need to be.

>>160392228
Jin's straight boy fantasies are not happening, and he's taking it out on Noel because she's cute and what straight boys like

>>160392437
>Are they seals?
Yeah

>>160392238
I suppose it's mostly right but changes a lot around, like Ragna and Noel's first meeting and such. I'll be honest I wasn't sober much after that so can't give better examples.

>>160392459
To be fair, we see the first half of Lost Memories from Nine's perspective

Celica barely felt like a protagonist; she was mainly there to offer a point of view to other, more interesting characters who actually did things.

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>>160392542
Too true.

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A reminder that Kagura Mutsuki believes in you.

Is there any chance of Mai going into sale?

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>>160394419

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Reminder that this is what a perfect ass looks like

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>>160394518
There's something wrong with that picture.

>>160394912
Good call.

Tell me about Kajun, why does she look like a date rapist?

>>160394912
Noel's ass isn't that nice

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>>160395410
She likes to toy with people.

>>160395410
She doesn't just look like one, anon.

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>Game just came out
>Was playing in the woods for a whole week due to job
>Have to pay 10 buckaroos for Es and another for any other extra character

Fucking jews I guess they won't be making an Extend CF huh?

>>160395818
Reminder that these are what perfect tits look like

>>160396005
>reads furry shit

Throw yourself into the boundary

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>>160395536
It's pretty nice.

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>>160396084
Mai's tits are amazing.