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AAfags Mad As Fuck Edition

Last thread: >>160225324

>Weapon and stats:
http://symthic.com/bf1-stats
Symthic's already started their metacrafting autism

>Emblem stealing website for uncreative babbies: http://emblemsbf.com/

FAQ:
Q: Is BF4 dead?
A: Yes, BF1 now.

Q: Where are the BF1 Platoons?
A: The platoon feature (tm) isn't in yet for bf1, we'll post the info when its out.

Q: Which VOIP Do I join?
A: Yuropoors will be more likely to find people on the Discord. Mumble seems to attract NA players. Use whichever you like.

DICE is looking to add quitting between matches, loadout editing in the main menus and other features that should have been in at launch, soon®

Mumble server (VOIP and Text)
wevidyanow.com
port: 64738

Mumble download (Snapshot version is more stable and has more features)
https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Main_Page

>Discord
https://discord.gg/TK8snEj
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they should let gunners in attack planes spot or something
give the backgunner something to do when there is no enemy plane to shoo away
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>>160278578
Can they not?
Why wouldn't they be able to?
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Any tips for the SMLE Infantry? Coming from the Gwehr 95; which handled beautifully but I can't hit shit with the SMLE.

I can't decide if the the ADS accuracy is shit or if the iron sights are misleading. I literally cannot hit a guy stood still out in the open at 50m range.
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>>160278649
They got shit spotting range
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>if you lack a primary for the K bullets you get a sawn off Russian 95

neat
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where the frick do i find hardcore servers!!!!
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>>160278776
They put a fair amount of effort into making the K bullets always work. There's a complicated and well-done animation for switching the entire pedersen device out of the M1903 Experimental and back in again for switching to K bullets.

It's just a shame K bullets are shit.

Also how do you not have the K bullets for that?
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monte grappa SUCKS
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>>160278776

>the sawn off 95 doesnt need to reload after every shot with K bullets

Neat
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Who the fuck thought that it was a good idea to make tail gunners do 3 times as much damage as fighter front guns?
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>>160278806
Just type hardcore in the search, dude
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>>160278704
Iron sights are a bit misleading.

Really though, there's no reason to use any rifle but the Gewehr 95 when rocking infantry rifle. SMLE Carbine isn't bad though.
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>>160278776
how exactly can you lack a primary?
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>>160279064
sorry im retarded but are they planning to release official hardcore servers
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>>160279113
>>160278962

Custom servers that ban certain weapons, in this server all primaries are banned
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>>160278776
>>160278962
seriously, is there a use for K bullets? (besides maybe resetting the repairing?
I personally think you should be able to do some damage to the driver if you hit the tank right
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>>160279054
They can't hit you if you move a bit or come from above or below
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>>160278776
Wait how do you lack a primary that can use K-bullets?
There's no all-kit weapons, and even the 1903 with the Pederson device swaps the bolt to use them. And the idea of armour piercing .577 Martini rounds is laughable, but I imagine it still works that way.
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>>160279202
Soon(tm)
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>>160279281
They're an alright way to destroy tracks on vehicles, at least when you factor in that you can either keep mobile while doing it, or be five miles away on a hill, and not really give away your position.

Oh, except everyone has an instant repair that removes the track disable. Enjoy.
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>>160279281
They're supposedly better against aircraft now? Don't know by how much. K bullets need a buff. One shot to an engine should disable the engine, and shooting into a viewing should kill the gunner/driver. Now you have a reason to aim them.
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>plane still spazzes the fuck out when it gets hit by the AA
nice one dice
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>Operations is fun and reminds me of Red orchestra
>Because DICE are worse with bugs and technical issues than fucking BETHESDA it is the sole gameplay type that has a direct-x crash incessantly for a shit load of players

That's nice.

Don't know whether to be pissed at Dice or Nvidia being a bunch of inept chucklefucks that they pull this off with a AAA game with a year plus of time to balance and test.

I half think it's planned obsolescence since the performance outside of the crashing is otherwise perfect.
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>>160279872
Good.
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>>160279054
boom and zoom baby
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>>160279281
as far as I know the K bullets are pretty much useless.
>tfw still have it equipped since all the other gadgets (besides spotting flare) are even more useless
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>>160279885
speaking of drivers, you made me look to see if there are new ones and there are. released today
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>>160280471
i frequently destroy tanks with k bullets
the periscope spots enemies for your team, outlining them and vehicles in red, even through terrain.
idk why u think thats useless
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favourite weapon(s)?
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>>160278704
Biggest difference is muzzle velocity, but the sights are a good bit busier than they need to be

>>160279097
The sweet spot is a rather large advantage though
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Oh, want me to stop killing you from my plane? Why don't you make me?

Oh wait...
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>they nerfed the bar
but why
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>>160281326
>needing vehicles and giant bullets to get people
1v1 me infantry kid see what happens
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>>160281390
too many memers

sadly they'll now fall for my huot meme and bring it down
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Defenders now lose all operations
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>enter operations
>put on attacking team
>alt+f4
yeah no im not ruining my kdr
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>>160281775

>Hey guys should we fix how fundamentally broken some of the operations are?
>nah just throw tickets at it

Brought to you by DICE
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>>160281775
No more gg ez from defender shitters now
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A+ update except

"Squad XP boost has been added, you may receive this item when opening battlepacks" REEEEEEE I DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT BOOSTS GIVE ME SKINS FUCK YOU DICE
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>>160281976

But anon, dont you want even MORE warbonds that you wont spend because you already purchased everything worth buying?
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>>160281976
can you sell them?
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>>160281775
Monte Grappa is still bunker camping shitfest, Noble Gas Forest continues being chokepoint nade party
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What happened to the servers? There was like 6 when I check 10 mins ago.
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>>160281976
It's a bonus, you may get it with a skin, not instead
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>>160282609
But you might also get that instead of a puzzle piece
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>>160282968
IIRC it rolls separately from the puzzle piece, so you can get both a boost and a puzzle piece
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>>160283080

This better be the case, I'm sick of getting gay club pieces and not the meme knife
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>>160280639
huh, I thought the periscope was just for peeping over cover. I'm trying that shit now
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According to my assertions camo wasnt used in ww1 so thinking that some retard decided to paint his normal gun mettalic gold isn't too unrealistic, since only retards will use the skin
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>>160283260

That's where youre wrong kiddo

Now you see me...now you dont
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>>160283414
I dont give a shit, I want dazzle camo for all vehicles
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>suez is still the exact same broken piece of shit

Who's bright idea was it to push the spawn back a little? It's literally the same exact fucking shit

They need to remove the sandbar or move C, period
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>>160283527
soon
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>>160282293
>Monte Grappa is still bunker camping shitfest
Use the mobile fucking sun flares
They absolutely blind the enemy team but don't effect the friendly team at all.
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Friendly reminder that airchavs are not human and must be shot down and insulted at all times
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If this isnt in the Russian DLC, we riot
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>>160283414
>posts a picture of a wall
yeah, nice try kiddo
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>>160281028
MP 18 Optical
unlocked Hellriegel last night and it's bretty good
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>>160283895
Also hill shiggies
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>>160284162
Fieldguns are by far the most underrated weapon in the game
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>>160283921
holy shit, this needs to be a behemoth in at least one map
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Holy shit cavalry is so much fucking fun, on and off horse but mostly off. I just wish there was some unlockables to work towards.
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>operations still not acessible through the server browser

????
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>>160284572
I'm assuming they want the players to spawn at the start of the Operation
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Goddamn, they really gutted the mortar hard. Is there even any point to using this thing? I used to love spotting then picking snipers off buildings and catwalks with it but with the abysmally long deploy time I can't do that anymore.
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>>160284716
that literally never happens for me when i join operations
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>>160284847
saywhat? I have to admit I don't play them very frequently but I've always started at the beginning of the operation
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>Try leaving castle in Ballroom Blitz
>Killed in Action

This happened 5 times in a row now, what the fuck?
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>>160285016
Not that guy, but same for me.
I have literally never gotten in at the start of one, always partway in
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>>160284303
I know dude, there's one on Argonne Forest by the bridge that has almost 100% coverage of it while being concealed enough to be safe, easy kills.
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>>160283895
v nice
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why are the menu texts trying to give me a siezure
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>>160285652
git gud?
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>>160285652
>horse touches one of those decorative big guns at B in ballroom blitz
>insta death killed in action
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>>160280171
>still posting this shit
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>5-15 on long conquest map
>just run between points before getting killed by a plane or from long range over and over again
>still top ten
>best squad contributor

I did manage to lure a light tank to drive over a mine on the road by jumping in a hole near it, though. That was neat.
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>>160286225
How do I git gud against ghosts?
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>>160286913
Always run in a serpentine fashion!
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>>160283921
>>160284353
>that animation where you run up the slope on the back to enter it
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>>160286913
haha is that some glitch connected to the hovering airship wreckage or does that happen frequently?
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they still didn't do anything with the fucking automatico? come the fuck on DICE
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>>160287409
what about it
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>>160287409
oh and the 10 A hunter is still fine too. Great fucking "patch" dice

>>160287602
it's way too powerfull.
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>>160287409
They nerfed SMG accuracy across the board.
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>>160286103
Glad it's not just me. I have no idea.
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I heard hardcore was supposed to be out with this new update they put out today but im not seeing it. was i lied to?
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>>160287409
>Automatico and Shotguns were untouched during the nerfwave
>tfw Assault main

Weirdly I had better luck capping people with the Automatico today than I did prior, thanks DICE.
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>>160287602

>face-melting DPS and long engagement range
>only weakness is its magazine size which barely counts in actual gameplay

It's like a villar perosa jr. and every assault can carry one
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>>160287814
>bragging about doing the easiest things in the game
what?
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Official infantry Class Power Rankings

Always got your back tier
Support
Medics that Revive

Pretty cool tier
Iron Sight Scouts
Assault

POWER GAP

Shitter tier
BAR babbys
Model 10 Assaults
Mortar Whores

Kill yourself tier
Automatico Assaults
Medics that don't revive
Hill niggers
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>>160287814

Saw somebody say that they tweaked buckshot multipliers to 1.1 on head and 0.9 on body to 1.0 on both head and body, if that's true then the A10 got buffed if anything
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>operation
>forced to eject near capture point
>frommer stop auto and flares
>kill people with prefire before they can react
>replenish flares
Pilot with Frommer Auto is really OP in CQC
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>>160287908
p. good
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>>160287814
But the shotguns that aren't te Model 10 suck, anon.
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>>160288046
I'm pretty sure the only shotguns anyone uses by this point is the model 10.
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>>160287908
These charts are always bullshit. I supply, heal, revive, and use good, bad, "respected" and "meme" weapons. There's no power ranking, only your ability to do your fucking job or not.
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>>160288152
that degenerate image says enough about you anon.
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>>160288131
I use the M97 Trench, but that's because I'm a faggot contrarian and hate myself.
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>>160288272
And your retard response says enough about you. At least I always play the objective.
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>>160288386
are you saying I don't? I do play the objective, without using any of those nigger noob weapons listed in that list. Yeah, it's possible.
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if you're one of those people that complains about a certain weapoin in /all or here you need to get out more
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>>160288526
>noob weapons
Are you as stupid as you sound?

If we're gonna compare e-peen here, I used the Lewis gun before it was buffed. The weapon this whole general hated. These lists are just shitty ways of trying to legitimize your choices in guns, even in the face of facts showing they're suboptimal.

Use what you fucking want, no one gives a fuck.
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>>160288526
>nigger noob weapons
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Holy shit the charleroi skin for the 1906 is so fucking aesthetic
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>>160288873
>skins
noone sees them
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>>160288757
what is this image trying to convey?
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>>160288938
Other players can't see your skin? Not that it matters really because it looks beautiful on my screen
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>>160288948
I'm not going to spoonfeed you /v/ memes
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>>160288152
DON'T EVER LEWD MIDNA AGAIN SHE'S A SAINT YOU FAGGOT
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>>160289060
the ONLY people that see them is the enemy you kill. you have mud on in 24/7 why care
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>>160288732
>Use what you fucking want, no one gives a fuck.
except getting hip fired by an automatico from 20 meters away is annoying as fuck.

So yeah I do care what people use,
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>>160289248
Because it's really pretty
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>>160289341
get out more
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>>160289204
Fine, here, have comfy.

>>160289341
Sounds like its time to get down off the cross, use the wood to build a bridge and get over it.
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>>160289547
>>160289478
not really an argument though :/
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>>160289547
Comfy is good anon, thank you
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>pulled a squad boost from a box
>legendary item

Is it? Did I get lucky?
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>>160289659
>wanting an argument
youre upset what weapon people use in an fps

???
need i say more
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>>160289742
0(zero) arguments as to why the automatico shouldn't be nerfed
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>>160288948
>>160289137
Assuming the character and context a sense of superiority or disdain

Then again I don't know shit about /v/ so what the fuck ever
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>>160289813
are you fucking dense ? im not saying certain weapons shouldnt be nerfed but im saying you complaining about people using them is fucking assberger as fuck you little shit
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So this is probably a dumbass question to ask here, but have any boners found rented servers with HC presets or nah?
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>>160289970
Because the game is perfect? I can't complain about people using weapons? Where do you think you are right now?

This isn't a reddit hugbox where we talk about how amazing the game is. I can complain about weapons whatever I fucking want.
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>>160289813
Except it did get nerfed.
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>>160289970
Dont be to hard on him anon. It his own fault for his faults at the game. Enjoy it for your own reasons.
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>>160290046
Are rented servers finally up for consoles?
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>>160279281
To ensure that every class has at least one tool to tackle vehicles. The 5 damage isn't a lot, but any competent sniper can put 25 on a vehicle which is pretty significant.
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>>160290060
>Where do you think you are right now?
That sounds like something what reddit would say.
Never mind that, you can complain all you want but then other people can call you retard all they want.
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>>160289675
How much does it scrap for m8?
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>>160290060
Well don't get butthurt when people call you a fucking idiot for whining.
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>>160290396
>That sounds like something what reddit would say
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>>160290236
I'm not entirely sure
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>They buffed the time it takes to capture flags in operations
>raised the ticket amount by 100
>played one operations game on all four conquests but the Attackers still never made it past the first map.

So is there no fix for a bad team? Or is 64 players operations just an inherent clusterfuck no matter how many Scouts they throw to the grinder.
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>>160290501
Not entirely sure, cant remember. Took a picture earlier but forgot to post it.
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>>160290560
So I'm an idiot for complaining about this game?

You must not have any problems with this game then, it's perfect right?
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>>160291161
Bad team, really bad team. Played keshierschlect and conquer hell and easily made it through both maps as attackers.

Keisher especially.
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It's already begun

The hardcore elitists are coming out
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I tried using the automatico but it kicked up like a bitch, maybe I'm just shit but it felt way worse than the default Assault weapon.

Do the other variants not launch the gun into the sky when you pull the trigger? Or do people just hipfire with it?
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>>160291347
I don't bitch on a Mongolian moving pictures symposium about it. I just talk about my problems with the game with my friends that play the game. Mostly though, I deal with it and learn how to play against or around problems.
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>>160291406
>Softcore babies

But Hardcore is babby mode
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>>160291347
Not him but not really. Game was actually (and still is) pretty fair. Maybe so with mortars nerf.

Only faggots complain excessively when there isn't truly a problem.
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>>160291517
nah bruh takes skill harcore takes skill you gotta be tactikul bro
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>>160291161
now when its a horribly unbalanced game, it takes 300 more tickets to end the misery
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>>160291581
>only played hardcore back in bfbc2
>before scope glint
>one hit kills and hiding in bushes as bush wookies

Only time when playing as a sniper really felt like one.
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>>160291517
only people that never use their map or tools to spot in regular mode say this, i.e.shitters
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>>160281028
Dynamite
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As Artillery Truck superior master race I love the ticket increase in operations.
Instead of going 60/70-0 I can now safely cross 100 mark.
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>>160292141
But I do use the minimap and spot flares.

Hardcore is still babby mode.
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>>160292141
>I rely on low health overall so I don't have to worry about landing multiple shots on an enemy
lmaoo
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>>160292345
you'r eprojecting.
you play hardcore for the same reason there's 1st person only servers for dayz for example
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>>160291810
Don't ever say that again or I'll fucking cry really hard, I miss it so much
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>>160291492
>do people just hipfire with it?

this has been my experience with automatico shitters
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>>160281028
Here you are friendo
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>>160292461
Nah you're deluding yourself into thinking you're superior over normal players but you're really not because hardcore is way easier.
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>>160292685
>thinking one is superior over other player
>thinking one gamemode is superior

difference
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>>160292685
Explain to me how is hardcore easier?
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>>160287908
but what if I am in all those tiers
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>>160292685
Not him but I never thought I was better then normal mode players. I genuinely liked playing hardcore mode in bfbc2 because

>no killcam
>one shot kill snipers
>playing sneaky recon on rush was exhilarating

Nothing to do with being better. Plus it reminded me of medal of honor multiplayer at the time.
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>>160292685
Wait what? I just said I miss bc2 hardcore
Are you kidding me that was some of the most fun I've ever had
I've never thought myself to be superior to anybody simply because I played hardcore, don't be fucking
As soon as somebody says he likes hardcore you throw him into a barrel of people you hate simply because it's not your playstyle
You're pretty dumb anon
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>>160292964
Fucking stupid*
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>>160292964
misquoted sorry
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>>160293083
O
Well that was quite some mess
You are forgiven :^)
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>>160293083
>APOLOGIZED
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do you have any green stats on battlefield tracker?
>top 8% score per minute
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>>160292792
The greatly reduced ttk is the main contributor. It fucks with how firefights function. Some fights become "the man lying in a hill a hundred odd meters away killed me" and others become a matter of reflex - who shot first.

Being accurate with your first and sometimes second shot is not difficult because it has next to no factors that impact it other than if you are ADS and your stance. Your FSM might have a major effect too if the gun has a high enough one, along with FSSIM.

Hardcore requires changes to health and damage values, tweaks to fall off, adjustments made with encounter ranges in mind, a whole bunch of shit really. Instead, we have a mode that basically rewards static play with high damage/dps, low risk weapons.
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>>160293413
Lemme check :^)
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>>160279000
Shut your dirty whore mouth
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>>160293413
Whats that site or extention that everyone is using?
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>>160293570
My other greens
>>160293658
Battlefield tracker
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>>160293413
A few
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>>160293570
>>160293727
dank stats senpai, I'm trying to up my kdr but it's a chore, took me some pains to get to 1.70, good thing I play on ps4, it's much easier
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>>160293762
>tank whore
dude nice
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>get five headshots in a round
>get three headshots in a life

Fuck the recon medals. Seriously.
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>>160293905
Thanks dude, just keep working on it
Mine use to be 1.70
What makes it easier on ps4?
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>>160293413
This shit doesn't work for me for some reason, it says it found my account but there are no stats associated with it.
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>>160294042
This might be crazy, but just hear me.
What about
Listen
What about you don't do them
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>>160294062
the game is much slower paced on consoles, not as twitchy, and the snipers aren't nearly as bad an issue as on pc. plus for the shit that aiming with an analog stick is, I manage just fine with it, and the game is filled with new people to the genre or just not very good, the hype train was real afterall
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>>160293413
Nothing to special sadly
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>>160294042
How is that difficult?
If you can't get those you should never touch scout
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>>160294318
Teach me your ways. I never get headshots, but I still end up at the top on the scoreboard whenever I play Recon. Maybe I'd always have the top spot if I could learn it. The only time I go for headshots is if they're prone or standing completely still, which not even snipers do. They constantly wiggle their ass, making the head an annoying target but the body an easy one.
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>>160294302
Yeah I'll admit there are a ton of new people
I almost feel bad wiping them out
As for the faggots who suck, they always seem to be the medics running over my body
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>>160293413

a few
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>>160294553
I don't understand, just earlier today I was at B in argonne inside the bunker, shitloads of teammates dead, and the stupid medic just ran down the stairs and got fragged
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>>160294551
Gewehr M 95 Marksman
10/10 midrange
Counter snipe hillniggers for headshots. Easiest in Operations.
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>>160294761
Lmao yeah they either completely ignore you or refuse to clear out the area before reviving you it seems
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How do the guys at the top of the leaderboards manage to do it?
4 kills per minute in conquest playing only infantry, really?
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>>160294553
I purposely start medic if it gets that bad. As much as I want to get level 10 in support I cant pass up pockets of dead reammates.

Sometimes you get lucky and notice teammates following suit and start rezing mkre frequently.
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>>160295071
Literal autism
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>>160295071

The secret is playing the game all fucking day every day and pursuing one stat in particular and not really doing anything else
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24 Damage
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>>160295114
Medic is my most played class, 90% of the time I switch to assault or something I end up switching back to medic specifically because of that
Just a ton of dead teammates
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Boat exploit is gone
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The little ones are 23 damage (huot vs mp18)
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>>160295365
Should've reset the exploiters' stats to be honest
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I feel like the only one that likes to use the trench periscope.

I can't be right? So many free points.
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>>160295260
60+ damage
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>>160295457

Or maybe they should have done the smart thing and sped up progression
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>>160295753
Or maybe you should calm down your ADHD, and learn that you can't get everything instantly.
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>>160294614
>vehicle whore literally post in these threads

absolutely disgusting
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>>160295990

You're right, let's quadruple the amount of time it takes to get to level 10 and put all unlocks at level 10. That way everybody has something to look forward to.
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>>160296126
every rank 10 weapon is garbage
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>>160296126
If you think it take a a long time to get Rank 10, you really should learn what long grinding actually is.
Easy as fuck to level classes.
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>>160296154
Except the
hellriegel
1906
Martini
kolibri
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>95% of weapons are unlocked by rank 3
>last weapon unlocks at 10
>both to unlock in the middle 7
Nice "progression"
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>>160296154
>every rank 10 weapon is garbage
>Hellreigel, garbage.
>a smg with a 60 round drum mag that literally outdamages ALL of the LGMs.
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>>160296270
This, if you think it takes a long time to get to rank 10, try playing War Thunder.
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>>160296403
I don't remember reading it in the notes but I can swear to god they buffed it in the patch
I've been killing people so much faster with it and at farther range as well
It has been phenomenal today
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>>160296449
>try playing War Thunder.

Why the fuck would anyone do that
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mortars feel like pure shit now
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>>160296631
I think you're the one that's feeling like pure shit right now. As you should.
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>>160296606
To put things in perspective, I've never had an issue with game balance in any game since I've stopped playing WT, everything is fine.
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>>160296757
I only use them when I feel like I'm under-performing though
felt good getting free kills
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>>160296351
Both to unlock in the middle 7?
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>tank lads running the map because no one wants to kill vehicles
>get one to chase me
>I can feel his smugness as he casually turns the corner to get a free kill
>is greeted by a line of AT mines
>victory tbag hop dance 10 feet in front of the wreckage for his kill cam

:^)
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>Airship Buster attack plane
>1 salvo of rockets does 800 damage
>literally down in 5 passes
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>>160296118

>entire point of the series, its only stand-out gimmick, is combined arms warfare
>people STILL get butthurt about vehicles
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>>160296913
It just means you've lost all standards. I had a similar experience after dropping World of Tanks, but I didn't turn into a drone. A "progression" system doesn't add anything to a retail game at all, it just arbitrarily locks you out of content and prevents new players from learning the game faster by not letting them experiment.
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>>160296154
>Schofield
>C93

>Garbage
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What's a good non-scope scout rifle to use? I would love to try them all out myself but you need to spend bonds to unlock weapons for some strange reason.
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> defenders win every time
> "balance" patch
> now the attackers win every time

Goddamnit dice...
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>>160293413
A few green ones here and there.
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>>160297614

Buy away. You'll earn warbonds faster than you'll earn XP to unlock things to spend it on.

SMLE infantry is probably the best unscoped rifle anyways, seeing as it has the closest sweet spot
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>>160297614
Gewehr 95 infantry has the best fire rate but doesn't kill in one shot
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>>160296553
>buffed it in the patch

Why for the love of all that is would they buff that already obscene ahistorical class-breaking piece of napkinwaffen? There arn't even any fucking physical examples of them, just a set of testing pictures!

Meanwhile Lewis Guns are out-damaged by most PISTOLS despite firing the same bullets as british bolt-actions!

>>160296606
>Why the fuck would anyone do that
It used to be fun... a long, long time ago.
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>get tank hunter kit for the first time ever
>chamber a round, excited to see just how good the t-gewehr really is
>turk stabs me in the face with a sharpened entrenching tool before i'm even done reloading

y-you too
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>Kaiserschlacht post patch

Shit wasn't easy as defense
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>tank on G on fao
>no one does anything
>just try to take F and E and lose all the other objectives

I don't know anymore
I think i should stop playing for today
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Or you can just type hardcore in the filter and join some custom servers right now
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>>160298193
I don't know if it's truly buffed anon it just really felt like it was doing alot more damage than usual
Try it out for yourself
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>>160298273
>pre-patch
>switch to defender team like a proper scumbag
>post-patch
>switch to attacker, mo' wins mo' dolla
I'm the scummiest and nobody can stop me
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>>160298552
>No xp
fuck off, retarded fuckface
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>>160298614
>He's not already max level in everything

What a fucking loser you are
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>>160292181
this gif is pretty much how I feel when trying to use dynamite, if the tank doesn't kill me before I detonate it I'll end up killing myself just to be sure he doesn't kill me before I detonate it.
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Are mines weaker now?
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>>160298791

You don't use dynamite on tanks. If you're close enough to get it with dynamite's babby throw range, then you

>put down 3 mines right next to it
>shoot the mines
>kill the tank with the splash

Every assault should have mines in a gadget slot, TNT is fine but it's better suited to clearing buildings of infantry and such
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>>160298791
This basically sums up my experience in every Battlefield since what, BF:BC1?

I was never lucky enough to get away from the tank and survive to detonate so I always spammed as much C4 as I could and allahu'd
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>>160298193

I don't recall them buffing the hellrieger in the patch notes but I might be wrong. I really really hope they give salt 1 or 2 new weapons that aren't a shotgun because boy howdy 2 fucking SMGs is a lot of fun alright.

>watch them give the fedorov avtomat to LMG, the ribbeyrollywollypolly to medic, the chauchat mini-me version to pilots.
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>>160299101

the hellriegel overheats slower, but it also has more horizontal spread
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>>160299167

Yeesh they really do not like LMGs do they.
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>>160299101
>>160299167
The spread was unnoticeable to me
Anons I'm telling you I was decimating people left and right with it, may just be one long stroke of luck
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>tfw the enemy team has a hacker but the team is so bad they still lose
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>>160299060
too bad at mines are clowny as fuck to place now
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>suddenly everyone and their mother is support
>but there still isn't any ammo being given out
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>monte grappa operations on the 3rd sector with the tunnel and bunker objectives
>A is on lockdown by us (attackers) thanks to our tank
>team consists out of hillniggers and retards that don't understand that if we get on TOP of the bunker we still capture the objective and win the sector
>instead everyone just keeps storming inside of the bunker and fucking dies, wasting all of our tickets on this stupid shit
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>>160281775
>defender
>lose
They still haven't fix the cancer bunker, literally free win every Operation in Monte Grappa
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>>160299060
interesting, are three mines enough to destroy a tank with full health?
>>160299065
well in BF4 the C4 would stick and two were enough to destroy a tank with full health (I'm also sure you could throw it farther)
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>>160299435
>1918
>needing ammo
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>All those cool weapons locked behind level 10 pilot and tank classes
For what purpose
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>>160299435
It boggles my mind.

>literally one key strock
>or one slight movement of the thumb to hit right on the d-pad

Its not hard.
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>>160299627
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>'cpu optimizations'
>'fixed damaged buildings making a massive hit on cpu performance'
>new nvidia drivers

so how much better does the game run now? in the process of installing the update

will i get more than 40fps on st quentins star conquest when it starts raining now (this is on a i5 + 1070 lol)
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>>160299627
>not maiming pilot for the sweet m1911 extended
That gun literally 3 shot ppl close range and 4 shot med to long range
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>>160281028
Experimentals<3
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>the companion is back to resetting my loadout every time I open it
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>do fairly okay to good most games
>game "balances" me into a team full of shitters
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>>160288131
When I play assault I use the 1897 and Auto 5, both in Hunter versions.
I pretty much never use the 10-A because it's for shitters, but moreover I prefer using the other two regardless
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>>160300948
>be a no-score shitter
>lose
>get put into the other team
>win most of my games because every time I lose I get put in the other team
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>look down any scope
>the entire map knows where you are because of the retarded massive flash that is apparently 360 degrees in any direction and not just in the direction of where you are facing
fuck dice jesus christ this is retarded
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>>160299627
>Just want the C-93
>Will never reach level 10 support
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>>160301460
>scopeshitters
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>>160300948
>not rage-quitting when auto balance to shitter
Teh game won't count your quit game
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>>160301534
It's sadly a bit shit
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>>160300361
>MP-18 experimental

How?
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what's causing my health to recharge never sometimes?
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>>160301860
friendly gas prevents health regen
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>>160301460
>mfw I headshot prone scouts with medic rifles cause the scope glint gives them away
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>>160300948
some days i get swapped every round if im top 3 winning team, even if ticket difference wasnt high
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>>160301460
You get what you deserve hillnigger
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>No option to take out your pistol while flying to take pot shots at the enemy planes, even though it's pretty much futile to do so outside of landing a lucky headshot.

Of all the things those crazy pilots did a hundred years ago, this is one of things that should have been kept in.
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Newish player here, how do you get a one hit kill with melee? It always seems as if everyone can do it to me but when I try to melee kill people I have to press melee multiple times. Please help?
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>>160301902
jesus fucking christ why even use that useless shit
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>>160302385
More like very new player.
Melee weapons do set amount of damage.
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Should I buy 2 normal battlepacks or 1 450 battlepack
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>>160302385
You have to hit them from behind or shoot them first to kill with one melee hit.
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>>160302767
1 450, white skins are shit.
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>>160299627

>artillery luger and C96 with stock were literally the premiere shocktrooper weapons for the Germans prior to the Mp18
>Don't get them on assault
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>>160303101
GAH!
HOLY SHIT
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>>160291161
They need to increase the spawn times for defense. It's the only good way of balancing their map superiority.
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>>160302713
more like didnt give the new player any help other than saying "it does set amount of damage."

That didnt help them kill with melee like everyone else did it
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>>160301557
just trying to get 5 headshots in a round
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>>160303423
In the melee selection screen it lists how much damage it does and this shit in can do against wood and armour.
I don't want to type a paragraph just because someone can't be bothered to look.
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>>160295071
I watched the 9th player twitch recording just to get an idea of how "top players" play.
It's a 7 hours footage of him playing 10vs10 capture points with automatico. Since games last 5 minutes and map are smalls, it's easy to get 1000 SPM.
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Am I retarded, or can you still not customize the tanker and plane classes outside of the game? I could only find the infantry ones. Please tell me they didn't think everybody wanted a way to customize the classes you always have access to.
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>>160303578
Already did. With Lawrence's SMLE.

EZ
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>>160299921
I went from 100+ fps to 60 with dips to 30
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How dead is BF3? I just realized I don't like 1 that much but now I need a battlefield fix and I was thinking about reinstalling it.
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>>160303578
>finally get 5 headshots in a round
>second step is to get 3 headshots in a life

That's where I hit a snag. I'm way too willing to throw my life away, and sitting back in "safety" takes way too long and is way too boring.
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>Read mortar nerfs
>Sounds fair enough
>That HE buff though
>Place Mortar
>Mortar isn't immedietly accurate for the first charge
>takes like 8 seconds to get perfect accuracy

Haha, gutted.

What were they thinking? I could understand the accuracy thing, but the downtime now between an accurate shot is absolutely retarded.

I think I'd rather take my chances running head first and throwing a limpet.
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at mines are clowny as fuck to lay down now. shit sucks
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>>160304986
Airburst mortars are suppression/area weapons instead of infantry killers now. They fill a different role - not as effective but they make for pretty good harassing tools.
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>>160304986
>tfw carrying ammo bag and packs now instead of Mortar
>top leaderboards of Resupplies every round
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>>160304986
>try to set up HE mortar to kill tank
>by the time the shot is accurate the tank is halfway across the map

thx dice
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>playing Rush, on attack
>last two points
>12 lives left
>B down, 8 tickets left
>rush to A and set the charge
>0 tickets left
>we win
What a RUSH am I right?
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Is there even a point playing support?
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>>160306226
Grenade Spam.
Also, I like shoot boolet.
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>>160251391
>LevelCuck

Who is this guy, why is he so prolific in the BF community, and why does DICE listen to anything he says if he's just some guy on youtube? Is he even any good? How can he be if he doesn't bother killing medics
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do any of you NOT use the Selbstlader M1916 Marksman on medic? I'm fucking unstoppable with this gun
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>>160306226
>ammo
>mortar
>repair tool

Its worth it more in a group thats communicating but not totally gimped playing by yourself. Everyone needs ammo, anon. Give them all the ammo and you will be loved.
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>>160306226
>infinite suppression
>infinite ammo
>infinite grenades
>infinite ammo for anyone nearby
>infinite mortar spam

man your'e fuckin STUPIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>Snipers still not nerfed
>don't even need to aim above the head going from the fortress on fao to C
explain
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>>160306346
Memedragon
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>>160306449
?
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>>160306481
He asked if anyone doesn't use the selb. I use the mondragon.
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>>160306481
!
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>>160306226
you're a queer if you don't like the dakka
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>>160306321
I mean, it only takes 1 medic to completely undo an amazing flank.
Wish it was just an internal CD instead, like pouches.
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>>160306445
because it's only like 300 or 400 meters

the bullet drop and junk in previous games were exaggerated
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>>160306346
Stats say it has a faster ROF than the Mondragon and Cei, yet it feels slower and not as responsive.
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>>160306714
What the fuck stats are you reading?
They all fire at different rates.
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>5 revolver headshots
>5 revolver kills in a life

I hate the weapon the medals
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>>160306714
no, it it the slowest ROF of the semi autos
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>>160306678
If that one medic can undo all your work it wasn't nearly as good of a flank as you're saying it is.
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>>160306795
The problem is 5 hs is easy, but fuck, 5 kill with hs only. The fucking revolver need 2 hit hs for a kill, even in close range.
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>>160306692
almost as if *le gasp* snipers needed the nerfs they got between BC2 and BF3 and BF4
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>>160281028
>Model 10-A Factory - 190 kills
>Bayonet Charge - 135 kills
>Gewehr M.95 Infantry - 103 kills

Rate me.
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Whats up with all the high levels? Like 2 days ago highest you'd see is 60/70 and now there's 80/90s in every server
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>>160293413

Only SPM really. A few greens elsewhere.
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>>160279245
How do you find a server like that? It sounds like hella fun. I literally haven't touched the server browser the entire time I've been playing, only quickmatch/operations.
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>>160307538
just sneak up on hillniggers.
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>>160293413
I guess I do. Didn't think I was going to.
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>buy the trench periscope because people say it's good
>start spotting everything, X-Ray vision oh lawd
>NOBODY tries to kill the people I spotted
>literally 3/4 of the team just fucking around in the fortress on Fao

I didn't think it was possible to lose every point on that map as the ottomans
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Literally how do people get their SPM above 1000?
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>>160304305
Anyone?
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why the fuck do they insist on putting me in a 18 vs 31 game, this is bullshit.
three times now.
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>>160301534
I'm rank 10 and I haven't touched that thing
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>>160309173
it's probably the best pistol, its just ugly as sin
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>>160309080
Play attackers in operations. Get in the Heavy tank and constantly push them in and take the objectives.

also

>tfw you kick fags who request orders
Mutiny will not be tolerated
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>>160309095
Do you really need to ask that question?
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>>160306226
dakka

I wish they would scrap the overheat mechanic though
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>>160305412
this

new support gadgets when?

we literally have ammo and limpets, meanwhile scout has like 10 gadgets
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>>160304009
is it worth using dx12 now?
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>mfw I saw the Pancho Villa skin for the Russian 1895
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>>160309261
>it's probably the best pistol, its just ugly as sin
How?
It's pretty below average.
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>>160306678
>>160307290
don't headshots stop medics from being able to revive people? that seems fair
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What BAR variant is best? Been trying out support and it's the last set of weapons I haven't tried yet
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>>160309557
it fires fast enough and does more damage than the 1911
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>press escape while in a tank
>screen blackens, nothing appears, can't shoot, can't go back to normal, only option is to alt+f4
thanks dice
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>>160309764
>BAR

Old meme, son. We've moved on to the new hotness.
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>>160310023
What LMG is gud
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>>160310094
Lewis
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>first hit accuracy circle in crosshair

fucking hell, fuck off
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https://youtu.be/bBhCqImEGwI

>tfw the old /bfg/ is gone
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>>160309838
Only past 10 metres does it do more damage.
Other pistols fire much faster that also do very comparable damage.
If you care about slight pistol damage beyond 10 metres then go for it.
It's beaten by most other pistols within 10 metres though.
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>>160307957
I think I have like 5 kills from bayonet charging: every time I try to use it, I fucking glance off enemies somehow, or go just past them because apparently running makes you turn like a semi pulling two trailers.
Meanwhile I get killed regularly by bayonet charges that turn 90 degrees on the spot or sometimes go through a fucking wall
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>>160310223
this video gave me cancer

>nostalgiaing over literal autism
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>>160310938
>Friendship is autism

Really...makes...you think
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>leave match
>game just sits on blurry loading screen indefinitely
>this happens literally every time
Man, I sure am glad they added that persistent quit button and I don't have to alt-F4 every time I want to change gamemodes....oh, wait.
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>>160310223
>no marc_at_war

Old /bfg/ ah?
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>>160310223

>BF4 /bfg/
>the cancerous memespewing faggotry that died within a year and a half
>old

FREE says hi ;)
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>>160311008
>those cringe jokes about gensokyo and waifus by 2 nasally voiced autists
>le memes xd

the rest of the vid with the stuttering foreign guy talking about aftershaving his balls is fine but the first part is just embarrassing. How did you guys seriously put up with the voice on the guy who says "youll never be with your 2d waifu", fuck me
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>>160292597
The Selbstlader I swear is the best weapon in the game.

Three hit kills, plenty of ammo, works decently in CQC environments (Not to the extent of a shotgun but there are worse options)
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>>160310023
>bar was a meme
What the fuck
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>win an hour and a half long game of operations by your fingernails as the defenders, having the shit kicked out of you and pushed back to the final sector, having lost 2/3 points and only winning due to a bayonet-charge into enemy forces capping the final point

Holy fuck, this game has its moments.

Trench periscope and infantry bolt-action rifles are my waifu
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>>160311991
periscope is gfucking awesome. noone uses it tho
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>>160311991
>an hour and a half long game

this is why they need to increase the number of battlepacks per operation
I'm pretty sure you could do any other mode and get more battlepacks
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>>160312138
also I really don't have time to play a game for two hours in one sitting. increasing the attacker tickets was a horrible idea.
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>>160293413
Ain't so bad. :^)
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>>160312210
that too

>decide to try a quick match of operations today to see how the patch is
>end up taking an hour
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>>160278776
>>160279050

That's actually just a bug. The server you're on is fucked. That sawn-off Russian 95 behaves like a regular 1895 Trench and doesn't fire K-bullets. Also, your level is shown as 0, mortars have no ammo and nothing you do will actually count for your unlocks or levels.
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>youre able to see scope glare THROUGH terrain

that needs to go, its just irritating
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>>160312343

It's been there in the beta, so it must be a feature if they haven't patched it out.
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>3 games in a row
>3 battlepacks in a row
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>>160312539
>2 battlepacks in a row
>2 squad exp boosts in a row
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>>160312539
>6 distinguished skins and 3 legendaries out of 9 packs
>scrap it all
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>>160281028
>Model 10-A Hunter
>Autoloading 8 .25 Extended
>Hatchet
>Hellriegel
>Madsen Trench
>Frag Grenade
>BAR Trench
>Incendiary Grenade
>Bayonet Charge
>Gewehr M.95 Carbine
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>BAR
hate this meme gun
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>>160312539
you are easily pleased
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>join a game
>DEFEAT
Honestly my winning rate in games I play 0-1000 must be 80%
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>>160313901
>Join a game
>Victory
>Get battlepack
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i kinda dont like how setting the bipod up doesnt have an animation or something. when you set it up over rubble or something and youre not sure if it got deployed sucks
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>>160313645
why
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>>160314337
it's just an AR
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>>160309059
Whatever team holds the fortress tends to lose because all the dumbasses just spawn there and get obsessed with keeping it, so the other team has free reign to take the rest of the map.
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>>160292321
Lol
>needs wall hacks(flares), manual spotting, self regenerating health, ammo regain, and a hud to show him when it's safe to go back and fight again

And hardcore is for the babies. Tell me anon, just how many crutches do you need to walk?
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>>160314595
No, it's a BAR, there's a B.
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>>160314924
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>>160314717
ive never even seen the fortress except in campaign
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>>160314717
I've done this

reminds me of planetside 2 where one faction would hold the crown even though literally every other base on the map got captured too
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>at rank 10 it has empty bar leading to rank 11
are they planning more ranks, or just fucking incompetent?
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>>160315341
Why not both?
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>>160314857
Lol
>cannot use all the tools at his disposal effectively, so he wants to prevent everyone else from using them

Hardcore. Babbies.
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>>160295260
>>160295535
one of them mushrooms and the other doesn't this ain't rocket science son
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Official hardcore servers go up in 6 hours
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FUCKING SERVER DISCONNECTS
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>>160316505
Though I was the only one that happened to me.

>15 minutes left of a squad boost
>mfw
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Good god damn if there's one thing dice did right with this patch was the facelift to lightweight lmg variants

I honestly haven't had this much fun with bipod Lmgs since bf3
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>>160316942
I've still been using MG15 Suppressive.
What's so great about them?
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>>160316942
How did you have fun with bipods in BF3? they never ever worked
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>team balance is 13-32
>stays that way for entire match
Sugoi, DICE-chan!
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>>160317040
just play better
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>>160309502
>mfw
I really don't know if I could drop the medicine since it matches legionnaire perfectly, but goddam the pancho is so fuckin classy
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>>160317040
ive had the end of a conquest match be 6-32 once
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>>160306346
Nah. I see the draw to it, and completely understand why people would prefer it, but the MD just feels so much better

The storm variant works for me a lot better than any other medic battle rifle has and I don't see that changing anytime soon
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>join server
>pick a 4/5 squad
>request order
>...
>you are now squad leader
Thanks for the free points
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>>160296631
Honestly I really like how they handled it

>hillniggers en masse
>too risky to try and approach directly
>deploy mortar
>hang and fire
>observe impact
>by the time you see that you need to adjust or stay on target the AOE reticle has almost pinpointed for max accuracy

I know that the bf1 mortars are the most brain dead of the series but now they don't feel quite so lazy and I like that
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>>160318134
it had to be done because of the absurd amount of mortar spam but part of me wishes there was a better way
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>trying to use mortars in hardcore

that's one reason why the spam isn't there
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WIR WAREN SOLDATEN UND SCHEIĂźE
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>>160310918
this shit happens to me too. bayonet being much more reliable on other players and I have to be really careful when to use it...
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>Playing Argonne Forest in Operations
>Squad on the other team dominating, running around with 10-A Hunters
>Using my trusty Gewehr M95 Infantry rifle
>Repeatedly picking them off as they try to flank my team
>They start hunting me the entire match
>Hiding in the bushes using gas grenades and tripwire bombs to escape, like it's fucking Vietnam
>Win, go 49-9

Most fun I've had playing this game
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>>160317040
I just finished a 1v6 match of war pigeons
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Who plays here hudless?

Jesus, it improved my K/D
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>>160319769
That sounds like it would be fun.
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I am superior to all the other plebs
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>>160319769
I've been considering turning some things off, there's so much shit blocking your sight sometimes.
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>>160314265
You should be able to immediately tell by the much smaller crosshair though.
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>>160319769
i will try, do you still see the revive thing for teammates tho ? i guess not, thatd be the only hard thing about it.
also the dragdown ordermenu is bugged like 90% of the time, its annoying.

so often the objectives and names of it obstruct my view when going towards an objective itd make the disadvantages og no HUD worth
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Hello, just being the best map in history over here
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>>160309273
why is Pepe wearing a tie?
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>>160320249
Oops, wrong pic
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>customization is now available in menu screen
>no tanker, pilot, elite

how halfassed can you do your work?
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>she's not playing hardcore
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>>160320245
Playing conquest hudless is pretty self torture.

Operations in the other hand is easy since the flow is linear.

> do you still see the revive thing for teammates tho

sadly no, however for some reason they're highlighted
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>>160320249
>>160320414
fuck out of here
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>>160320662
yeah ill try it on operations. i wish you could just scale down or remove the objective symbols and names, because thats the only thing pissing me off really
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>>160319367
Tripwire incendiary is lowkey better than the explosive version, and then DICE goes and buffs it with more ammo.
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>Bipods on "low weight" LMGs
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>250 tickets and a behemoth
>team still can't take the third sector of ballroom blitz

this is fucking sad
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>>160320998
That's one of the worst map in bc2 though
>muh confy snow level
That is not one of them.
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>>160321540
also dice hasn't fixed the blimp bugs
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>>160321540
The enemy spawns two feet away from C and can flank around to A really easily.

You need a smart tank driver to sit on A while the majority of the team goes for C, unfortunately people just run to whatever objective is being capped because they're brain dead.
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>>160321540
>defense on kaiser
>enemy team gets 250 tickets for each attempt
>plus a hacker 2 shotting people
>plus behemoths
>and they still couldn't get past the second sector on Amiens
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>>160321601
My bad. I put the wrong image
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>grab my support kit again to mow down some fuckers in the streets
>adjust playstyle away from assault, set up with bipod anticipating incoming attacks
>noone caps when i dont do it
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Post memeblem collections.

>>160321703
Ma nigga
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>>160281390
Really? Ever since the update I have been getting way the hell more kills. It seems like TTK for the BAR has gone down, for me at least. It's my new favorite since the update.
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>>160321056
Yes, we all do wish for that.
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How bad is the gas spam in HC?
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>>160322375
not too bad from the games I've played so far
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>>160292485
Yeah. A lot use the automagico trench, has glorious hipfire accuracy
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>>160320249
You know, you are probably right.
That shit was so fucking good, just goes to show how actual care and effort can make maps memorable in a good way.
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>>160296323
1906 is trash. Selbstlader has the same stats, but a much larger magazine.
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How do I scout properly? I shoot flare guns at flag points but no enemies were spotted. Do I need to aim it in the air or something? Also the trench binoculars thing, do I just look through it and spam Q? Are there different ways to use it?
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>>160323391
The flare spots enemies in a radius around the physical flare projectile, so firing it into a building or onto the ground is fine, if you fire it in an arc it spots enemies that it passes, but only very briefly.
It's best to use the flares in a contested area where you KNOW there are enemies so you can get spot assist points.

Yes that is exactly what you do with the periscope.
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>tfw finally Tanker 10

You need 600k points if you want the Double Barrel

Artillery Truck is best tankfu
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>>160324191
What's that website
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So I had been under the impression that welfare behemoths were only awarded if a team was doing really shitty, but it seems like it spawns one every fucking game no matter how close it is.
Is that the idea? Does it actually do this shit every game?
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>>160323872
So basically it's just a pair of binoculars? There's no way to use if to look over cover or something? Like if I'm prone behind some sandbags can I use it to look over the sandbags while staying prone?
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>>160324312
That's what it does by default.
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>>160324312
It's a periscope so it does jut out like a foot, you can use it from a trench or crater without exposing yourself.
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>>160324365
Oh. Guess I didn't really notice it. Thanks.
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>>160324301
Could be glitched, a behemoth spawned at the start of the match on the enemy side last night.
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>>160324301
In Operations, it always spawns for the attackers after they fail an attack.

In conquest it spawns when there's a big enough point gap.
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>>160323391
go iron sights and balls deep on the objective to scout properly
all hillcucks in HC are to be executed
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>nerf mortars to require sitting still for 10 seconds to have the right to accurately shoot your shot
>in a game with <1 second TTK
>mortars need 2 shots to kill a healthy player

lmao
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>>160324760
I'm doing perfectly fine using it to flank and shit
Maybe you just stink
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Haven't played HC yet, are all scout weapons except 1903 Experimental or m95 a ohko without taking bullet drop dmg into account?
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>>160300361
>>160301828
the MP 18 experimental at least has some damage. having this many kills with M1903 is amazing though, it's literally worse than a pistol
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>>160306226
I'm always near the top of the scoreboard when I play support
infinite ammo is also nice
once you get used to the guns they're really good
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I just want to play argonne forest all day

custom servers pls
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>>160324760
You use it to punish people who stay still and weaken groups
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>>160325401
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>>160325401
shotgun shitter leave
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When does dice LA take over so they can unfuck the game?
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>>160325705
I play medic actually
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>Enemy team is down 200 points on Sinai
>At least 4 guys spend the whole game sitting on the big cliff taking potshots with sniper rifles
How do scopeshitters justify doing literally nothing to support their team? Do they think that in some twisted way sitting on a hill miles from any objective trying to score sweet headshots helps anybody?
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>>160300361
me too!!!

>>160325039
the M1903 experiment is fucking great, man

you just have to get good at clicking fast while aiming through poor ironsights that obscure lots of your vision

once you get over that hump it is a ton of fun

>fuck 80% of their health with a K bullet shot
>animation cancel back to normal
>pop pop
>ded
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>Get Tank Hunter
>Use it to wreck an A7V
>No other enemy vehicles around
>Use Tankgewehr to one-shot snipe a ton of faraway enemies from a hill
I-I-I'm not being a hillnigger, I swear! I only ran out of vehicles to shoot at!
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>>160326683
DICE LA patch notes:

- Decreased velocity and increased drop of AT Rockets
- Reduced damage of AT Nades to armor by 20%
- Reduced throwing range and damage to armor of Dynamite by 30%
- Only 2 AT mines can be placed at a time, and only inflict 30% damage to all tanks
- Field Gun damage reduced by 30%
- These changes should promote healthier tank play in games, which are destroyed far too often

- Nerfed stationary AA range and damage by 30%
- Stationary AAs that are destroyed no longer respawn for the rest of the match
- Tank shells no longer OHKO planes, instead only dealing 30-45% damage depending on the type of shell used
- Planes should have an easier time supporting their team without being disturbed too frequently

- Increased BAR vertical and horizontal recoil by 25%. We feel that this LMG was being used too much as an Assault Rifle and was outgunning Assaults, Medics, and Scouts too often
- An active 30 second cooldown starts as soon as a Support class spawns in before their gadgets become useable. We feel this should tone down the complaints of the oppressive nature of Support gadgets in maps like Suez and Argonne

- Automatico dropoff increased by 20%, horizontal recoil decreased by 25%
- The Automatico is still the least popular primary for Assault classes according to our real-time game statistics, and these buffs should increase their usage a bit more
- M97 Trench and Automatic 12g choke decreased by 20%, range increased by 20%, damage increased by 10%
- 10-A vertical recoil increased by 30%
- These changes should see more variety in shotguns on CQC maps now
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>>160324271
battlefieldtracker
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>>160327351
>Increased BAR vertical and horizontal recoil by 25%. We feel that this LMG was being used too much as an Assault Rifle and was outgunning Assaults, Medics, and Scouts too often

The gun has like 20 bullets, I'm not sure what they expected the poor bastards using it to do with the thing.
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>>160320414
my nigga
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>>160281028
MG15 <3
mostly operations mode
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>>160328997
Would love to play more Operations that Conquest. But it takes 10-15 minutes to fill a game at Asian servers.
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>>160320414
>tfw no Karkand1918
it's already set it up for all 3 behemoths, just make them spawn randomly
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>>160330125
i feel ya bruh
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>>160327351
I know you just made those up but
>buff planes and tanks so much that they're effectively invincible
>but plane vs tank combat is heavily one sided in the favor of the pilot with no bomb damage nerf against tanks but a massive shell damage nerf against planes
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Warhammer 40k Battlefield when? Will it ever work with all the op classes & balancing issues? Then again Dice's good at balancing shit.
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>>160330446
>Dice's good at balancing shit
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>>160330446
they could go the Imperial Guard vs Traitor Guard route
>>
educate me on the latest meta
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>>160331454
Kill the other team
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>>160278484
Does anyone else's frames go to shit on pc when watching a youtube video or something? It's so annoying.
>>
Does anyone else find it completely impossible to get into an Operation? Every fucking time I try and find a match, it puts me into an empty server.
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>>160330446
Could be nice. Imperial Guard-centric is the only way, though.
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>Still playing the SW:Battlefront reskin over the balanced game
Shame on you bfg
>>
Can you play Operations in hardcore? :)
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>>160332553
Im EU and have never difficulty to get a war over europe
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>>160333358
I thikn
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>>160333413
How?
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>Elite Classes aren't only available to the top players on the team
why is this game pandering to bads?
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>>160333448
>Implying a shitter can even take advantage of an elite class before they get stuffed with a bayonet blade down their throats.
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>>160333576
my point exactly, friend
>>
apart from being a snipers paradise its crazy how different the game plays on this harcore mode everyones much more cautious
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>>160333448
Why stop there
Why are bads even allowed to respawn
Buy the game
Live in society?
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>>160315475
>heavily implying

So what's it like having the situational awareness of Terry Schiavo? It's cute that you want dice to hold your hand, but I didn't think you needed them to feed, change, and wipe your ass for you as well
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>>160333358
You can't. And by the way, has DICE given a fucking explanation as to why you can not? I was looking forward to operations in HC but they literally added every other cancer CoD gamemode in Hardcore but not operations.
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>supposed to play the game hours ago
>stuck on this board doing nothing
what's going on
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>>160317000
I hate optics on anything other than the 6x and up on snipers. Having the choice for irons and a bipod is muoy fuckin Bueno. That and the tweaks are actually noticeable in a good way

>>160317001
They worked fine in 3 up until a certain patch if I remember correctly. They never unfucked them at all in 4 though
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>>160333854
Wow
I wonder if the two things are related idiot
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>>160334558
You're stupid
>>
Is scope glint for every magnofication or only higher ones?
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>>160336126
5x and higher
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>>160334335
>implying HC isnt cod on its own
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>>160327351

Nailed it.

DICE LA fucked up BF4 so much.
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I haven't received a battlepack in like 10 games I'm going to cry
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>>160336178
Thanks also nice to know i dont have to worry about everybody going for me while ads
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>>160330446
>Dice's good at balancing shit
>M16A3
>AEK in TWO whole games
>Shotguns being trash in BF4 before DICE LA fixed them
>supr skill tap tap mouse klikkity klik meta in BF4
>automatico
>A7V

I bet you my ass that if DICE LA would takeover post-DLC treatment of BF1, all of the current and future imbalances would be fixed because of DICE SW being a bunch of bumbling dumbasses.
>>
>>160327351
desu though aside from the objectively cancer C4 nerfs, DICE LA actually did a good job unfucking BF4.

Before they took over, the only weapons ever used were
>MG4
>AWS
>SRR-61
>M98B
>ACR
>ACE 23
>AEK as always

Whereas afterwards, I find people using other shit like the SCAR and AUG a LOT more often.
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*teleports behind u*
**unsheathes saber**
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>bomber comes from behind me and miss my tank
>just does a u-turn right in front of me and comes at me straight veeery low
>shell his ass
>happens 2 more times in the same round
You'd think after it happened once or twice he would change his approach
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>They didn't buff the 1906
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>>160337165
>see a bomber free on Sinai, hop in
>he flies very low and twitching non-stop left and right, making it impossible to use the gunner seats correctly
>get us killed going for an artillery truck head on
This dumb fuck only play bomber and he only managed to get 20 kills in the entire game. If you're not going to fly so that your front gunner racks up kills you might aswell learn to fly a fucking attack plane.
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>>160337342
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>change suez
>it still sucks

lmao
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>>160336653
Honestly I've noticed that the greater majority of people either don't notice/respect the glint and end up dead, or they stop to take aim at me and that saves me the time having to lead them for an easy headshot

I will say though I noticed last night that they weren't joking at all about increasing the suppressive effects of Lmgs and SLRs. I had this one cunt I was grudge matching against for a few maps using the slibslab optical. 1 round at medium range suppressed me enough to ruin my accuracy
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>>160336982

Other way around, before LA took over most of the guns were usable, they buffed DMRs too much, then nerfed them, then buffed shotguns way too much, then brought back suppression. What was nice is that all the guns were all around the same usability level, only symautists stuck to the ACE23 or AEK, you could do just as well with any gun before LA fucked it up.

The worst thing they did was fuck over grenades, mines, rockets, and c4. They destroyed any and all forms of anti vehicle tech and made grenades so bad they were a waste on most maps and modes.
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>>160337208
The only buff it actually needs is a larger magazine. The only way they could do it though without shitting any more on history is by giving it 1 round in the chamber + the 5 from the stripper clip
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>>160337208
>>160337818
You fucking stupids
If they gave it more ammo it would make the dragon completely useless
Why don't you understand this, the 1906 is fun as fuck to use
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>>160337818
Make it always reload with a clip, M.95 style, and make the reload super quick (like, a second), and you've got a really interesting gun on your hand
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>>160337430
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>>160337818
>>160337934
Make it 2-hit bodyshot 1-hit HS kill and give it to scouts desu ngl
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>>160337934

It's garbage, there is no point to use it.

>5 rounds
>Low damage
>Long reload

It's going to take you 3 bullets to kill a single target in most circumstances, then what do you do? If they want to fix it they need to make it do more damage, high risk with a very high reward.
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>Truck on Operations offensive
>A
>FUCKING
>TRUCK
Jesus fuck it just keeps happening.
They NEVER leave their designated shitting spot.
Meanwhile entire team gets raped since there's no tank support... END THIS NIGHTMARE PLS
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>>160338017
>2 hit body shot at 300rpm
No

>>160338020
Anon I think you just need some time to warm up to it
I hated it too but it's the most fun medic weapon for me, I don't use it in every situation of course
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>>160338327

I've warmed up to it and found that it's just not that good.

2 shot body shot would be great at it's RPM, you only get FIVE shots and that means you have to either be very good at aiming or learn to pace yourself. As it stands now you can only realistically get 1 kill before having to reload and that isn't going to cut it, the other medic guns can easily get 3 and some 4 kills before having to reload and that isn't even counting pure headshot only kills.

If they buffed the damage it would give highly skilled medics a weapon that could let them stand on a little bit more even ground with the infestation of shotgun and automatico assaults.
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Soldier skins when. I wont play as a fucking nigger.
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>>160338520
Then you'd be able to btfo automaticofags up close
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>>160337934
>give it 1ONE1 extra round in a very feasible and realistic manner
>REEEEEE STUPID FUCKS

Christ calm the fuck down you raging autistic mongoloid. Do you have any reading comprehension or the capability to understand context? Or do you just run around in life screaming like a fucking child when anyone says anything just a shade off of what you think?

I said literally nothing you implied except to give it a round in the chamber for a grand total of 6 rounds. Fucks sake with some of you people
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What is best tank? Light, A7V, Landship, or Artillery Truck? And what load out is best for solo tanking/squad tanking?
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>>160324596
>In Operations, it always spawns for the attackers after they fail an attack.
they spawn for defenders if the attackers win an entire map without losing an attack too
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>>160339797
Artillery Truck
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>>160339183
>reading comprehension
No not entirely I am a bit busy
That does sound reasonable although I don't understand why you're so mad lol, a bit ridiculous
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>>160339797
>solo
If you don't like being a big target, then FT-17
If you do like heavier armor and more firepower, then A7V, best if it's a flame tank
>squad tanking
imo, Landship is the best
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>>160340304
Exasperated yes, because interacting with people like you is unfortunately part of my job and it is mentally exhausting. Mad not so much. I honestly never have the energy for it anymore. I just don't have the freedom to tell clients and or people that are possible business opportunities what I want to so I lay it on thick when I can.

It's therapeutic
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I wonder what they are gonna do for the battlefest. Also, Domination is really good to level up classes I think, at least assault, the matches are like 10 minutes and if you keep getting or assigning orders and capping objectives you can get 6/8 k points a match
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if your gonna spwn an armorair slot at least buy the fucking shit for it
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>30 hours play time
>have less than 5 minutes in any vehicle

How do you guys even get a vehicle slot? Every time I try to spawn in one there are no slots available.
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my keyboard is missing the ESC key, i fix it by changing ESC to END key in windows registry. This works with every program and game, except BF1, BF1 somehow overides the windows registry.

Anyone have a suggestion for a fix?
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WHY THE FUCK IS THE PLANE YAW REVERSED
AND WHY CAN'T I FIX IT
JESUS FUCK WHY
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>go on reddit
>some retard suggests that assaults should get limpet mines

Is support the least popular class or something? I seems like people only suggest things to make support worse while making their class better
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>>160327351
they actually buff the automatico
WHAT THE FUCK
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>lets take the only decent support weapon, which was shit anyway compared to the other classes, and nerf it
makes sense to me
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>>160343153
Support has always been the least popular class, anon.

Support is a high iq class, and rewards smart play. Retards just can't into the strategic mindset.

There's a reason why support players are always the fuckers at the top of the scoreboard.
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>>160343491
>be support
>grenades for days
>top kills
>top resupplies
feels good
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>play hardcore
>start shooting someone hoping they're an enemy while being shot at from behind by someone that's most likely a friendly player
>now have to worry about both friendly and enemy shotgunner assaults whenever I turn a corner
>gas and incendiary grenades everywhere
>scouts are even more useless because the only slightly team-supporting thing they could do is now made void by spotting being completely gone

It's legitimately danger close: the gamemode, so much fucking shit going on.
>tfw Argonne Forest
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Did they do something with LMGs this patch? I keep hearing things about the Lewis gun not being as shit anymore.
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>>160343591
>mfw we're back to the good times
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>>160343656
then fucking read the patchnotes. kid
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>>160342679
Every once in a while I get lucky and am at the spawn screen when a tank becomes available, so I have some time in the FT.
I've never really played cavalry, and I haven't gotten the hang of flying so I leave available planes to players who will be better with them.
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>>160343439
>Bar
>20 rounds
>only decent support weapon

Shitter, please. The Madsen has always been superior, and the MG15, Benet Mercie, all have a respectable niche. Even the Lewis gun has it's uses.

The only true shit LMG was the Huot. And it's better now.
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>>160343669
next patch they are gonna increase the time it takes to get new grenades, just watch, fucking dice pieces of shit
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>>160343957
>AT weapons already suck except for mines
>Nerf the shit out of all of them and make mines useless
Fucking bravo DICE.
Oh and good thing they didn't forget to nerf the shit out of AA, the only thing to counter fucking plane shitters
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>>160343957
They always do.
Doesn't stop us
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>>160344076
moines are so fucking clowny to place now
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>>160343957

Eventually they'll just give it the BF4 treatment.

>Already have super nerfed rockets
>C4 (dynamite) is already at the post nerf BF4 status where you can't throw it more than 2 feet

Grenades were perfectly fine in 4 in all modes except metro/locker, their solution was to nerf damage, radius, and reload times so that grenades were 100% useless in every single mode, you barely wanted to waste time throwing them. Right now nades are only an issue in specific areas like operations, what they need to do is nerf incendiaries and only slightly increase reload time.

What they will do is nerf damage across the board, lower throwing distance, cut damage radius in half, increase smoke and gas numbers to 4, and then cut the damage on the AT grenade assault gets by35%.
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>>160327351
>Automatico
>Least popular assault primary
There is absolutely no fucking way.
90% of assault players I see are either using that shit or the 10-A, the MP-18 is only used by people new until they buy something else, and I am literally the only person I've seen that uses the Auto-5.
Automatico is unpopular my fucking ass
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>>160343957
Seems about right. Incendiary grenades last abouts long as a grenade resupply. Constant choke hold on corridors.
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>>160344365
read the post again
do you feel stupid now
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>>160344353
theres literally no argument to be made against increasing restock times on grenades

also random bullet deviation needs to go, optic sway is fine but that random shit ? fuck off
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>hardcore added
>hardcore fags already crying it is too hardcore
keked
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>>160343439
>Lmgs get buffs all around except the bar
>LW variants get bipods in a game where bipods deploy on damn near anything if you're in the proper proximity
>tfw actual Lmgs are fucking laser beams off bipods now and absolutely decimate

I think the bar is cool as hell but fuck what it is in bf1 with the present state of things. I want an MG goddamit. I want to hustle through a house to a vantage point, break out the windows, prop my bipod on the sill, and sling lead down range until everything's dead or I'm out of ammo. More dakka, not less

Shame I couldn't find a good picture of a soldier with the mg15
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>>160344512

If you drastically increase reload times on grenades then you might as well remove it entirely, the average player is never going to live long enough to get a reload on them. All you have to do is pinpoint where the issues are (Operations) and which grenades are the issue (Incendiary) and you can target your changes accordingly. What we don't need is a heavy handed blanket nerf that ruins the weapon class forever.

Conquest and other modes have no issues with grenades, the only real problem is the spam on Operations because you have 64 players and the fact that on some maps you get stuck on tiny chokes like Monte Grappa bunkers where people can keep up an infinite wall of Incendiary grenades at the stairwells and make entrance impossible.
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>>160344660
between the madsen and the mg15 which one is better now?
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>>160344660
To be fair, it didn't get a bipod until the 30's. In WWI, it was only used as an automatic rifle intended for (retarded) shit like walking fire
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>>160344764
>c point on three flag portion of argonne forest
>attackers have two small corridors to run through to get to it
>constant incendiary and gas
>its core so friendly teammates can run right though it still

Thats probably one of the little pet pevees I have. I dont know, make all incendiary do some sort of damage including friendly?
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>>160344951
Not that guy, but I had almost exclusively used the Madsen before.
I never liked the MG15 before, but now that it has a bipod and can be used like a proper MG it's great IMO (the Madsen's 30-round magazine limits its utility in that role even with the bipod)
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>>160344951
Mg15 IN MY OPINION is the best, always has been
I love the suppressive variation
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>>160344984
>because of the fastly increasing changes to warfare, suppression was a big thing in squad dynamics
>heavy gunners or supports main role was to literally walk and shot to help movement of the squad

Dead men walking
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>>160345049
i think they should but i dont think thatll ever happen.
my personal feeling is anyway that actual explosives are the issue not gas and incindiery.

the best servers will be noexplsoives hardcore operations with only incindiery and gas.
were the best rush servers in bf4
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>destroy 3 vehicles with k bullets

if I had seen this sooner I would not have started this medal
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>>160345232
Pretty much
If you look around you can find the US Army's estimates on how long individual machinegunners would survive in combat. They literally expected like 10 minutes or some shit because they'd immediately be targeted by everyone
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>>160345363
>some assault tthrows 2 at grenades
>you throw your frag/incindiery and k bullet

>some bomber thinks he is a fighter and flies low
>k bullet

that eadsy
and i havent even mentioned bikes and cars
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>>160334009
>all the implying
So what's it like having less situational awareness than a particularily dumb amoeba? It's cute that you want Dice to bring others down to your level, though I didn't quite expect that level to be so abysmally low.
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>>160345363
Git gud
https://youtu.be/c-BRZZEFzHM
just kidding that medal is bullshit and should be reduced to one vehicle, this kill was absolute luck
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why are there so many anime emblems?
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>>160345831
because only homos and nerds like videogames
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How can I have asuka with a maga hat as my emblem, not really a weeb or trump supporter but that combo seems to make people pretty butthurt
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>>160345831

Its to show you're Battlefield Elite
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>>160345831
Weebs are like poneyfags, cant have a day where they dont try to shove their irrelevant shitty cartoons in your face.
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>>160344951
I am not the person to ask. The vertical mag placement ruins the gun for me. Fucks with my peripherals too much.

I fell for the bar meme until I got tired of reloading after every engagement. Moved to the mg15 Storm and loved it, but the mg15 LW stole my heart the first time I used it after patch.

Bipod, irons, and 100 rounds of git fucked can't be beat for me personally
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>campaign airplane movement
>multiplayer airplane movement
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>>160346584
if only you did not have such a shit taste in girls
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So is no one spotting just a console thing? I've been playing battlefield on console since BC2 and even now years later, no one ever spots.

Do people on PC spot often? Or is it the same shit?
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>>160347079

that was a quick way to invalidate all your opinions
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>>160346973
Yeah I know, what the fuck was that shit
Was annoying as fuck, made the platinum much more tedious
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>>160347308
>do people on pc spot often
ha
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>>160343237
Those are fake...
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>>160347308
I feel like they do, it's just harder to spot in this game than in any other
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>>160347308
>Do people on PC spot often?
not really
pretty sure they reduced the time you're being spotted and reduced the cone and distance you're able to spot people
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>>160343237
>believing anything besides the actual patch notes
GG anon
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>>160347308
Im constantly trying to spot but sometimes I find myself mashing r1 and getting no where.
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>>160347308
Then you've never been in a game with me
It's been a muscle for me since bc2
Even if somebody pops up close range to me, I shoot and spot at the same time
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>>160345634
>bring down to my level
Lol, in what world do you live in where a hud that spoon feeds you real time combat information make a player more skilled than one who has literally nothing but sight and sound to go off of?

Not only that, but while you're picking your ass waiting for someone to spot an enemy so that you can get a kill, you can get shot 5 times, and just run away so that you can sit in a corner while you magically heal yourself

Face it. All you have to do is follow the pretty colors with your cross hair and run away the instant you take damage because there's literally nothing they could do about unless they're already close enough to finish you off
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>>160348152
Autism.
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>Tank Hunter kit now has 7 fucking grenades

Not that I'm complaining, but why
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>>160346584
Where can you get some good ones, anyway?

My current one did manage to get a couple people go nuclear in chat while playing US servers, but I guess a smug anime girl emblem is going to get even more people mad.
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>>160348152
>>160348250
Can both you fags shut the fuck up and just play what you want
Jesus Christ you guys are dumb
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>>160348152
>hardcore_babby.txt

It's okay, we know you're mentally incapable of comprehending a larger amount of information in real time. No need to be upset about your shortcomings.
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>>160348325
http://emblemsbf.com/

Literally in the OP
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>>160348325
Found a link through reddit. Dont know if they are from different sites or not.
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>>160348527
Forgot pic
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Planes are utterly fucking stupid.

You literally need good pilots too or the enemy pilots end up at 80/0x.

AAs can be destroyed and is like in 1 location 500 miles from the Battlefield.
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>>160348692
>>160348527
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>>160348428
>implying I've been the one replying to him
I just called him autistic man, only post of the day so far.
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>tfw NOBODY (0) recognizes your emblem
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>>160347308
I did a medal that required x amount of spot assists. Now I do it reflexively on any enemy I know I can't guaranteed kill.

It's weird though. The system seems a little buggy because half the spots I try while ads don't actually work, and sometimes I'll get the point and vocal indicator that I spotted an enemy but it won't actually spot them

Xbone for reference and I really don't see people spotting often
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>>160348813
Whatever you say bud
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>>160348813
dude i also love madcatz
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>>160348985
ARE YOU IMPLYING SOMETHING
>>160349057
I had to google what madcatz was
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>20 rifle grenade kills

Is this some kind of joke? I've been playing for two days and have three.
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>>160349120
how can you not know fucking madcatz
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>>160348446
Lol I do just fine in core. I don't claim to be anything I'm not and all of this is coming from a lot of experience in both presets. Could work on my SPM but I don't really know what would be considered good for mostly just playing pigeon
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>>160348152
Jesus christ the false sense of superiority really fucking shows with you hardcore babbies huh
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>>160349214
Because not everyone lived in a dirt hut in Rio.
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>>160349204
Play Monte Grapa as an attacker on 64 Operations.
Use them into the bunker and make sure to have a support around for ammo.
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>>160349238

>Core

what is this term?
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>>160349238
Cool story, babby.
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>>160349540
Core gameplay. The default setting for mp

>>160349416
>>160349580
Let's see em then

Like I said I never claim to be anything I'm not so show me how vastly superior you are and that'll be the end of it
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>>160345831
DELETE THIS
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I just love the level action rifle
Lever action just looks so fucking COOL
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>>160350298
I really hate that you have to break ads to cycle the lever. Wild West movies lied to me
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>>160350891
That is because you are not using the trench version moron
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>>160293413
Top 8% for revives, top 4% for Rush score.

I really like Rush
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>Wahhhhh hardcore is too hardcore in BF1!!!!!!!
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Holy fucking shit I always liked tanks in every other BF and never bitched about them but not only in BF1 they look like turds, just like the rest of WWI tech, but they are also retardedly broken. Splash is fucking stupid, they can take shitloads of damage and considering servers are populated by retards they wont get focused down. I hated jets and helis in previous BFs but even the bomber here isnt half as annoying. The myriad of other retarded ideas and problems doesnt help either.
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>>160351813
literally nobody says this. hardcore is just for snipers who want to one shot kill and hipfire shitters who want hipfire to be even more effective.
hardcore is basically the call of duty version of BF
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>magdump armoured train explosive autocannon shells into someones face

>its just a flesh wound
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>>160348258
holy shit haha
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>Pre patch LMGs
>Get outgunned by SLRs at mid range due to spread, ttk, and damage
>Post Patch LMGs
>Get outgunned by SLRs at mid range due to ttk and damage

t-thanks dice.
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They should back a Ace Squad award desu

guaranteed battlepacks for anyone in it
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>>160355215
>Resupplies
>5
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>>160352293
>jump in tank
>roll up on cap point to support team
>get hit by literally six anti-tank grenades from every direction
>get instantly assfucked and there's nothing I can do
>"they won't get focused down"
kek okay
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>tfw there is always a random shotgun assault behind every corner ready to one shot you in an instant
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>>160355215
Why aren't you part of the ace squid Battefield Gen?
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>>160355541
Damn right I am
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>>160355567
post that broutemolle picture
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>>160355215
>RESUPPLIES: 5

I fucking hate all support players.
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>mortar placement timer doesn't reset if you die

wow they really fucked this thing up
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>>160355567
Aren't you fucking EU?
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am i seriously missing something with the scout guns? im using the gehwer 95 carbine and i swear to fucking god that either the gun has some awful psuedo rng accuracy like cs:go or the gun sights are not accurate AT all

i literally cannot hit people standing still or strafing 50% of the time what the fuck
>>
What's the point in ADS on the Medic rifles when only the first shot actually fucking goes where your iron sight is pointed?
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>>160356930

lmao i just had a moment where i decided to stand still and fire off 5 shots at a prone support about 50m away, none of the shots hit him

using the dot sight on the gehwer 95 carbine WHAT THE FUCK i am convinced that the accuracy on these guns is completely random
>>
I fucking hate randoms. Just lost my 10th game in a row because of these fucking idiots.
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>>160353258
While I disagree with what you say on a personal level I can't say that hip fire might not be really strong in HC. I'm also confused as to why HC would be comparitive to any cod game. It's been a long time since I played a cod title so I'm guessing it's changed a shit ton

At the same time though if someone shoots me multiple times I full expect to die, but I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get there. Time will tell
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>>160356293
>Aren't you EU?

This is offensive desu
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>>160357126
Learn the rhythm champ. Don't pull the trigger as fast as you can unless you're in close quarters. Learn to tap at the instant your sights reset and you'll get perfect triple taps or doubles if you get some head in there
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>>160278484
That's a sexy Bell & Ross tho
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>>160345831
anime a shit
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>>160355529
>being a retard
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>>160358085
ayy lmao
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>the airship is actually lethal in hardcore
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>>160345831

Shit taste is ubiquitous, what's new in the world?
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>medic weapon that has great accuracy, huge clip, fast reload, good hipfire and can kill in 3 shots at ANY range oh and it has a red dot sight
vs
>scout carbines which are unable to hit things if you are moving and you will die if you miss the first short and dogshit accuracy at longer range and bolt action and tiny clips

>dice
>what is balance
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>>160355885
support got fucking destroyed in this patch
I hope people like getting even less ammo since all the shitters will be hoping to other classes
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>>160360154
Aim for the head. The scout carbines are meant to be used against unaware or otherwise ill-equipped enemies at closer distances while retaining the benefits of one shot head shots and access to the Scouts gadgetry.

They're a tad weaker than they maybe should be bit they're not unusable, just very specialized.
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So have they even done ANYTHING about the model 10-A?
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>it's a "team captures a point in operations and then abandons it entirelly acting all surprised when the enemy retakes it" episode
THIS MUST STOP AND IT MUST STOP NOW
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>>160360974
Yeah, it just got a hit mang. Hipfire spread is worse even when stationary and has been generally adjusted to do consistent damage across all ranges.
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>>160360974
I think I read somewhere that they increased the damage dropoff. only thing I saw in the patch notes was "Changed damage multipliers for buckshot to be more consistent. This will eliminate some unintentionally high and unintentionally low damage hits." but I don't really know what that means
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what is the best game mode and map for leveling up scout?

operations and spamming objectives and spot flare?
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>this battlefest

I was to assume that the xp boost days included bf1. This is dumb.
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What are the conditions for the "Get 5 kills as XYZ in one life" medals? Does it have to be with the class equipment, or can I just sit on a field gun?
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>>160355885
>>160360949
Literally no reason for these mortar nerfs, you can thank meme maps and modes like Suez/Argonne and Operations for everyone crying about this shit

And ofc, half of Symthic is already trying to justify the nerfs by pointing to other gadgets like the Wrench and Limpet and say, "Support isn't totally worthless, you can be a tank rep cuck!"

More DICE LA style changes coming soon!! I'm anticipating massive grenade, dynamite, and limpet resupply nerfs next
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>>160361182
It means DICE are a bunch of mongoloids that hope that obfuscation will provide variety and balance, instead of people just datamining which guns are clearly numerically superior and using those, as they've done with every BF.
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>>160361523

i've done order of the sniper (headshot things) as support and assault, except counter sniping as scout - dont like sniping really

afaik you can switch kits while alive as long as you dont die
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I would be lying if I said I wasn't going to play hardcore every now and then specifically for moments like this
https://youtu.be/EgHenxqX7y0
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>>160361541
I refuse to be some tankers repair bitch, and make the best of what we got and still get outperformed by anything at any range
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>>160361541
>>Literally no reason for these mortar nerfs, you can thank meme maps and modes like Suez/Argonne and Operations for everyone crying about this shit

it's true, I almost never get killed by mortars in modes like conquest or even war pigeons
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>>160360970

>Aim for the head

i would if the scout carbines didnt have this fucking retarded penalty to moving accuracy and my game dropping to 50fps on some maps on a 1070

im pretty sure dice intend scouts to be utter shitters that do nothing but prone 300m away and get 2 kills per map because all their guns completely penalize you for moving and good luck trying to use their close range weapons at .. close range when you try strafing and shooting and missing that first shot will get you killed

getting this awful class to level 3 and dumpstering it forever unless they remove the moving penalty on ads for scout carbines, they are complete dogshit compared to the medics mondragon + sebslatder which you can just ads and spam and reliably get kills out to medium range with
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>>160360974

considering im still getting 1 hit killed 20-30m away by it, nope
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>>160361857
You couldn't even be a repair bitch if you wanted to, because Casualfield 1 now allows vehiclefags to self-repair from inside the vehicle. So they never stop for reps, they just keep rolling until they stop getting pegged and then hold the Repair key.

I want to like BF1, but between those kinds of changes, lolgas actively encouraging hip-spraying, and Battlefront-style crutchkits and welfare dreadnaughts, it's clear that the series is no longer *for* me. It's now for ultra-casuals that can't be fucked to do anything other than hold left mouse and W, not giving a shit whether their team wins or loses because there's always a personal killstreak crutch waiting for them around the corner.
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>>160362516

i got the tank hunter kit yesterday on st quentins scar, shot down 2 planes and destroyed 3 tanks and got about 9 kills with the shotgun

holy shit dice are actually fucking retarded, what the fuck were they thinking with these dumbass powerups
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>>160361541
LAs balancing did a great job though. Some nitpicks but it was heavily math focused.

>>160362331
I don't have much issue with scout at all. Then again, I play scout as a mobile unit near and on objectives and move after every two kills or so. Carbines are good on St. Quentin and parts of Sinai and Ballroom, as well as some parts of Grappa, but they demand you take care with your shots. They have the ads penalty for that reason. I'd like to see it reduced, but you only have to be still for about a half second to fire an accurate shot. Then you can duck behind cover or prone or whatever and work the bolt.
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>>160361082
>try to defend a point in conquest
>entire team leaves me
>kill two guys rushing in to cap but then get killed by a hillnigger prone in the slit of rock from 800m away

reee
>>
>People actually ADS with shotguns

is this a twitch meme or what? You've never been supposed to ADS with them in BF4 or 1.
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>>160361541

Mortar was pure ebola and needed a huge nerf.
Symthic is terrible in all regards.
DICE LA only fucked up BF4, they did no good.

those are my hot opinions
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>>160362815
>watching people play video game
>>
>mortarcucks mad as fuck that they need to kill with their primary now

Good riddance. You faggots couldn't drop ammo if it was the only thing you could carry.
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>>160362815
I do it with my 10-A hunter because it still does 10-30 damage at medium range
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>>160362669
They were thinking they want the CoD audience. EA Brass has said as much.

Just look at how much Standard Battlefield Shit was missing at launch and needed to be added in. Battlefield is no longer for people that want to play Battlefield. It's for people that need something in between their yearly CoD purchases and oh hey, you can drive tanks in this one breh.
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>start playing close-range scout
>loving the Gewehr M.95
>mfw I realize the carbine version has one of the pseudo-red dot sights
FUCK. Why doesn't the description say anything about that?! I just thought it was slightly different stats.
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>haha what if i just like started no scoping at the blimp gunner
>you know just for laughs haha
>dTHUNK
>Enemy Hit +100
>Headshot Bonus +50
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>>160363643
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>There are people that don't think Monte Grappa Operations is literally the best thing to come out of this series in a decade

Are you even trying conquestfags?
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>>160363205
>killing competent players with, even after their buff, still the worst class of weapons in the game

Haha.
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>>160364358
maybe you should get good, scrublord
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>>160347958
Yeah it's pretty frustrating
>See some scopeshitter on a hill a couple hundred metres away
>Spot him
>Lasts for less than one second
>Literally just crouches behind a small rock and it disappears
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>>160349924
I was legitimately just staring at the proof mark for a minute thinking it was the emblem
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>>160364404
Whatever you say, hillnigger.
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>>160364651
I think that's you. I can kill just fine with any of the support primaries. Even the supposed worst gun in the game the Huot.

You're nowhere on my level, kid.
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>>160364431
Just pop some smoke grenades, then run up there and ram your bayonet right up his asshole.

Bushwookies are still the same inattentive fucks they've always been, and now smoke actually does its job and properly obscures approaches. None of them have any fucking clue what to do when the grey wall goes up, and they all just sit there picking their nose hoping you'll still be there when it clears.
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>Been using the Sweeper for awhile
>Try out the 8.25 extended
>It literally shoots as fast as you can click
>Can dump all 15 rounds in the span of a second from hip fire, making it better than a lot of assault weapons

Try this shit out medic bros, it's hilarious
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Can anyone recommend a good keyboard layout for planes? I had an alright setup in the beta which was similar to war thunder, but even that felt a bit off.

What do the pilots itt use?
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>>160364838
I prefer Factory over Extended due to more damage
Magdumping the autoloader is the shit tho
I have been able to outdo shotgun assaults with hitting that trigger before they could
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>>160364739
First I'm a mortar shitter, now I'm a hill nigger.

Keep projecting, autist.
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>>160365031
Reading comprehension. You're done.
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>>160304009
fucking this, a 980ti and a [email protected] is apparently not good enough to run BF1 with the most recent driver

gone back to 368.81 but shadowplay won't work when you bypass the driver check with a bat file, and dxtory is more or less a no go with its performance impact when my cpu is already being run into the ground by something I feel should run as well as bf4

FUCK
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>>160362748

well the thing is, medics have better version of scout carbines and they have 1) the best gadget in the entire game syringes and 2) can heal themselves any time

scouts have what? a bunch of awful shit and claymores, the ONLY thing they have that is remotely useful is the flare gun and even then the minimap + spotting has been nerfed quite a bit in comparison to previous bf games

so why bother playing carbine scout? i just end up getting frustrated by dice's decision that you have to stand still and wait for people to stop moving in order to actually hit them instead of every other game ever (included previous battlefield games) where you can easily move around and track people and hit them fine with sniper guns
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>>160364961
whats wrong with using control pad to fly
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>>160357170
I have the infantry rifle versions not the carbines, but I have had no issues. They definitely go where I am aiming.
>Tfw you get really lucky
>Run into a cap zone with Gewehr 95, immediately hipfire at some assault a few metres away, headshot
>Spin to another guy to the right, bring up rifle and immediately fire without actually lining it up, headshot
>Spin around 180 to another enemy just poking his head over sandbags behind me, instantly headshot him too
>Bayonet charge a 4th guy right as he walks in
>Squad wiped
>Tfw people start accusing me of hacking in chat
Guys I swear it's legit, a man can get lucky sometimes...
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>>160365105
>scouts have what? a bunch of awful shit and claymores
you're awful
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>>160364431
>want to enjoy some comfy bunker shenanigans on monte grappa
>insufferable spaghetti negroes on literally every cliff making my life a living hell

I'm genuinely starting to believe that this series would be significantly improved if they removed the scout class.
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>>160365416

please englighten me as to what scout gadgets are good

spoiler: none of them
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>>160365583
cant teach a shitter
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>>160365583

Trench periscope
Flare spotter
Decoys for getting hillniggers killed
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>>160365105
If you need people to stop moving to hit them you're doing something wrong with your aim. You should take advantage of them loving to get free shots in. Assuming they're not running at you, you have enough time to fire at center mass, cycle bolt and fire again. If they are running directly at you but not firing, just aim at their head or chest and squeeze off two shots. The Gewehr 95 is excellent for this, as it has the fastest bolt in the game.
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>>160365461
If it were me, the scout class would be separated into rifleman and sniper classes. Riflemen would use ironsights and different gadgets, and her more anmo. The number of snipers per team would be fucking capped at like 5.
Snipers in battlefield truly are the fucking worst. At least now they can't steal a helicopter just to taxi themselves to a 50-storey skyscraper and stay there the whole game
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>>160365690

damn, nice argument, you completely changed my view on scouts shitty gadgets
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What were they thinking making the white skins so sexy
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>>160365828
I think they look kinda stupid desu, minus some on pistols
I got one for the Steyr-Hahn and it looks pretty handsome
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>>160365798
i cant change ur view with arguments, ur mind is made up. and since ur a shitter you won't see why your wrong
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>>160365828
>that squad

kill me
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>>160364586
you sure you weren't looking at the emblem?
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>>160366451
It's hardcore what did you expect? Hardcore is literally 99% snipers playing it for the 1 hit bodyshot kill.
>>
Is it worth the $53 that it's going for on G2A?
>>
>>160367565
Depends entirely on what you want out of the game.

For the campaign? Of course not, it's Battlefield. Though it *is* a pretty great campaign by BF standards.

For the multiplayer? Dunno. Do you prefer actual Battlefield gameplay, or are you comfortable with it being Battlefront: WW1 Edition. Because that's what it is.
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>>160368410
people with stupid opinions used to just lurk, what happen ?
>>
>>160368410
For multiplayer ofc
I liked BF4 well enough, I didn't play enough BC2 to get a proper BF experience and was too young for the previous ones
It's this or Titanfall 2, and I think this'll last longer in terms of multiplayer population
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>>160368843
I dunno, you tell me. You're the one with the stupid opinion here.
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>>160365583
Flares are you fucking nitwit. Its literally a free uav for a section of map.

With that said people who play scouts are usually dumb as stumps.
>get killed by scout
>find him in the same corner, building, hill
>generally always end up getting him

Do they realize there is killcams in core?
>>
>>160368410
I'd expect BF1 to get a lot more attention than fucking Battlefront though.

I haven't seen or heard anything about that game since the week it came out and I fucking love Star Wars.

That's what put me off originally, I felt like BF1 was going to go the way of the BF:Hardline and Battlefront but I needed something to play.
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>>160369426
BF1's numbers have taken a pretty drastic hit after the first week or so. It remains to be seen whether DICE will continue to support or whether EA will tell them to cut their losses, but at the very least Premium is pre-selling four expansions. Make of that what you will.

Given that BF is DICE's flagship, I would not be surprised to see them follow through. But that won't change that it's got self-repairing vehicles, hero kits, dreadnoughts, and other things in it that are directly lifted from or inspired by their hackjob of a Battlefront reboot, and which have no place in a Battlefield game. The game is NuBattlefront 2, but they called it Battlefield in hopes that it would sell more this time around.
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>>160362815
you never used slugs did you
>>
>>160369804
>PC: 59,985 (24h peak: 86,927)

Compare that to little over 10k for BF4.
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>>160369804
>BF1's numbers have taken a pretty drastic hit after the first week or so.

wew, what's with the sudden obsession of 2nd week numbers in video games? Still trying to be taken seriously as an industry so now people are copying box office analysts with their 2nd week box office dropoff reportings?
>>
>>160370321
Holy shit, you mean a game that came out last week is currently doing better than the two-iterations-old version that came out like two years ago, and wasn't particularly well received when it launched due to all the bugs and netcode problems?
>>
>>160370548
I'm not trying to pick a side here, anon. I'm literally just posting the numbers so people don't have to look them up. Why so aggressive?

This board really is shit.
>>
>>160356930
It's random af if you're being suppressed. Otherwise, scout guns have been great to me.
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>>160367565
nope, I'd pay 40 to 45 bucks and not more.

also his >>160368410 remark with Battlefront WW1 Edition is spot on.
>>
>>160365798
The flare gun is the one of the strongest team gadgets in the game, git gud phaggot
>>
Pre-patch
>1.2 KPM
>600 SPM

After patch
>1.7 KPM
>850 SPM

What happen

Also
>Oil of Empires now takes an Hour and Twenty American Minutes
>>
So then what are the best weapons for each class? I need to git gud but I don't want to waste my time with shitty guns
>>
>>160372217
Selbstlader
Hellriegel
???? Mg15 suppressive??
Whatever infantry rifle looks prettier to you
>>
>>160367285
>1 hit body shot

They happen a good deal in regular presets as well
>>
>>160372005
Same thing happened to me.
As well at 30 of my hours being erased.
Guess it's nice to have a raised spm though.
>>
>>160372005
>What happen

Your total play time was lowered
Apparently if you joined a game half way though you were credited with the full game time. This has been fixed.
>>
>>160372774
only if you're a hillnigger and they deserver death of the highest order anyway. Hardcore is at all ranges.
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>Finally add the ability to quit while loading a new match
>It doesn't work
How fucking hard can this be to implement? Trying to quit a match or exit the game takes fucking ages and almost always forces me to use task manager just to make it stop, this is fucking retarded
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>>160373283
>add a quit button between rounds and the ability to customize classes from the main menu
>both things that should have been in from the beginning
>both require a loading screen
Fucking nonsense.
>>
>>160373283

How fucking hard is it to simply disconnect from a server, holy shit Dice
>>
>>160370702
>This board really is shit
fuck off then
>>
>>160373283
>>160373479
>>160373761

Neo-DICE doesn't give a shit about anything but money, and they've already got yours. BF has had a very noticeable decline in quality over the years.

EA was always the publisher, but at some point they got their claws fully into the studio itself. Remember around the BC2 era, when DICE said they would never charge for Battlefield maps? That shit went out the door pretty fuckin' quick, and all of the quality went with it.
>>
>>160372217
FUCKING LOOK AT THE STATS YOU SPOONFED CHILD
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>>160372217
prove you aren't a scrub and use the worst ones for each class
>>
>>160373980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR6-u8OIJTE
>>
>>160374216
prove to who ? noones watching you

>i cripple myself with subpar weapons in videogames

sad
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>they buffed the trench fighter plane
what the fuck are you doing DICE, it was already the best one
>>
why the fuck did they nerf the anti tank mines? It's not like it was way too easy to fucking take tanks out with them. Bullshit cunt dice, making tanks more and more powerful than they need to be.
>>
>>160374617
I agree, that was a rather strange buff. it was already a perfectly rounded plane that could easily take out infantry and other planes
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>>160372217
Automatico, Madsen, Sweeper
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>>160374216
Prove you aren't a scrub and use only Kolibri.
>>
>>160374936
Just part of the Standard Battlefield Cycle.

Launch
Nerf AA into the ground and buff Air into orbit
Watch as the game's population slowly peters out
Repeat next year
>>
>customize screen needs a loading screen and is missing some customization options for some weapons
shit man how hard can this be?
>>
>>160374706
I literally just got out of a game of operations and some dude had 120 kills in the frenchie cannon tonk

they are stupidly good right now in the right hands
>>
>>160363960
>what was conquest assault
>>
>tfw no Leon you are small time emblem
why live
>>
How the fuck are you supposed to kill planes in the final push of Ballroom if you broke all the anti airs to protect the blimp? Jesus christ, 2 pilots had went like 120-20 by the end of the match. K-bullets?
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tfw 2 intelligint to play scout
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>>160375669
spawn an AA truck
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>>160375834
brb grinding artillery trucks. I wish there was better anti-air for infantry. Like a special lmg ammo for supports. They even have AA sights.
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>>160375669

Concentrated fire of scouts and supports.

Was in a similar situation on the Monte Grappa operation, some airchav with 65 service stars on the attack plane were annoying us at the beginning sectors, having destroyed the stationary AA.

What killed him, several times, was me and other supports magdumping our LMGs at him as he started a strafing run. Shot him down like three times before he quit.
>>
>>160375834
>sorry i already used our armour slot for a landship which i didnt buy anything for

t. average battlefield player
>>
>>160376189
>>160376189
>>160376189
>>160376189
>>160376189
NEXT BREAD
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>>160373090
>hill nigger
>lee enfield starts at 40
>Russian starts at 60
>head shots can happen anytime

40'and 60 meters aren't far away at all
>>
>>160356930
I think the M.95 Carbine is unique amongst Scout rifles in that the recoil does not settle quite entirely in the time it takes to cycle that straight-pull. Feels like you need to wait for like a tenth of a second after cycle for it to fully settle.
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>>160365105
>flare gun
>"remotely useful"

HOLY SHIT YOU FUCKING NIGGER! IT'S MORE POWERFUL THAN THE SENSOR BALLS OF OLD HAVE EVER BEEN! YOU GET TO SHOW ALL ENEMIES INA HUGE RADIUS TO YOUR WHOLE PRESENT TEAM NO MATTER ANY OBSTRUCTIONS OR WETHER THEY'RE MOVING, AND YOU GET TO PLACE A SHORT-LIVED FLAME TRAP WHILE DOING IT! IT'S THE FUCKING MOST POWERFUL GADGET IN THE GAME! "REMOTELY USEFUL", MY ASS!
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