/brg/ - Battlerite General

Thorn when

>>160278137
never

>>160277192
3th for Teldo the croak god

Why is this game so dead? Like, what's the actual reason? Because it's not f2p yet?

>>160279926
Enjoy your meme e-celeb.

EU finals starting now.
Croak/Jade vs Lucie/Ruh Kaan or bakko.

teldo and velrosk are gods but the lucie ruh kaan destroyed the number one shifu player earlier in the tourney.

>>160279963
BLC was a failure of a game and stunlock has succeeded in appeasing neither BLCfags who won't shut up that the game is different, nor in grabbing new players with the redesign.

>>160279963
actual reasons from most significant to least
>No marketing
>no twitch or youtuber big name playing it, forcing it(yes this matters largely nowadays, sad but true)
>not f2p
>requires time investment to git gud

a lot of the same shit that made Bloodline die regardless of the game quality

>>160280361
While it's true that the marketing is practically non-existent right now (and probably is a mistake not to go hard with it, even in EA), they did get sodapoppin to start doing sponsored streams.

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>literally who's stomping the best duo
GET IN HERE

>>160279963
There was some hype at the start/end of the closed beta, problem in my opinion is the 3-4 months of EA after it. Not enough advertisement, I think.

ded gaem

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>>160280918
Match 1 goes to Teldo/verosk after all!

>>160280918
RIP the dream.

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>>160281415
Does this mean Ruh Kaan is tier 1 now?

Ruh Kaan confirmed for best waifu.

>>160280506
it doesn't matter dude. big twitch streamers, lol pros, dota pros, wow pros, hs "pros", even smash bros melee pros have streamed it and got huge numbers. not one of them stuck with the game, and the worst part is that all of them ENJOY the game. none of them had any gripes or complaints and they genuinely had fun, but they can't afford to break away from their main audience for obvious reasons, or they just don't want to stream it.

i'm honestly giving it til next champion before calling it, regardless of ranked MM changes. it's obvious that no matter how many people are bitching about MM being awful and non-fun, that's clearly not the reason aren't playing. they added in unranked 2 patches ago and the average numbers haven't changed. you might want to retort that the team building in unranked is even worse but that shouldn't matter when it's unranked right? which points to there being a problem in the gameplay instead, which is centered around the boring champion kits.

but it's probably fucked anyway, idk. whether the next champion is fun or not, it doesn't make up for all the other ones being lame and similar, and they don't have the time or desire to rework everyone.

>>160284015
I hope they add a ton of fake progression and leveling to the game before they release F2P. Then maybe battlerite has hope to attain a larger player base.

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AND THE 200 (TWO HUNDRED) DOLLARS GOES TO TELROSK

>>160284818
that bakko was crazy to watch tho

>eu tourney had 1k viewers
we're gonna make it boys

>>160284970
Yeah he had good flicks and outplayed the croak many times

At what point do you guys think ping starts being a problem? Checking to see on which servers I should play.

Does Battlerite have an official league yet? Is that what Battlerekt is or no? I feel like this contributes to the lack of growth in a small way at least stream numbers wise.

>>160285754
if you're over 50 it's a slight problem
if you're over 80 it's a real problem
if you're over 100 why even play

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the feeling of poloma

>>160277192

Do you guys like the new hero?

>>160294212
Is there another one?

this game is fun

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>>160284015
People forget about the game because it gets really stale, really fast.
Don't hit counters. Use i frames to dodge. Just really boring, similar champion kits.

Of course, the remedy to this is 3v3 with a working MM mode. It won't completely save the game, but if people have a reason to grind (ranked games feel more meaningful) and they play the mode where the champions are more varied with better balance, it will help.

But SLS is pushing 2v2 for some reason, maybe because it's accessible

>>160302419
Progression is important too. It takes 60 games to get one gold chest, a silver chest for every day you get on.
Assuming you play an hour a day, for a week you get 7 silver chests 350 gold.
People go apeshit over cosmetics. Just look at all the opportunists who got 50 razer mounts to sell back to people. Stuff like the razer mounts help the game I think.

If they can do remodels of some of the garbage hero models and then market it as skins, I guarantee you it will help. And once you reach level 20, you get the "master skin" for that champion. That could really help people put in time. That and a working MM system.

>whoever buys EA gets a free key for a friend

Y/N?

>>160303828
It could work before right before the game goes f2p, they wouldn't lose sales and it would pique interest

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pearl is mad at her teammate

is bakko the best bully?
I thought it was going to be varesh but I cant land shatters as consistently as I want to

>>160306304
>best bully
what the fuck that even mean you sperg

>>160306428
best bully for pushshove meaners into deathkill while they scream for mummers
:^)

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>>160306578

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>>160306818
>even shitposts can't keep the general alive

people like 2v2 because they feel empowered. You don't have to cooperate as much, you can just outplay the enemy by yourself. Feels like you're in control.

I think they should do another CB in december, they have to find a way to make some sort of hype.

>>160309543
What's "CB"?

>>160309879
Closed beta, don't know why I put CB instead of writing those words.

>1v2 """clutch""" play
>it's against literal retards

Why do people praise this shit? "Oh a 20 health ashka used molten fist and searing flight into me, despite his teammate being over a 100 sirius"

So is Bakko unga bunga?

>>160312176
That would be Rook

>>160308096
pls don't die

I didn't even get to see the meme 2s tournament, was at work all day

>>160314293
Can't you just watch the past broadcast on twitch?

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>>160314293
>>160314443
clips.twitch.tv

/battlerekt/

BeautifulGerbilTooSpicy

>>160314293
It's on right now

>tfw finlev got fucked by a jumong combo again
Fuck meme arrow man.

>>160315910
Maybe if he played a real mode like 3's then he would be taken seriously

>>160316925
He pretty much always talks about how he likes 3s tourneys more. Can people stop saltposting MUH 3s for 80% of the threads?

>>160317140
MUH BLC

Why 9 rounds?

>>160317474
why not

>>160280361
Heroes of the storm has the opposite of all of those, and it's also dead

>>160317598
>>160280361
as someone who tried to play HotS a lot, this anon is right. Marketing, f2p, and forcing it doesn't make it stick.

If the game is fun and the players have fun doing it, the game will do well. That's the problem though

>garbage MM
>garbage ranking system
>garbage progression
>garbage balance

there

>>160318116
>>160317598
>comparing a mobile game to BR
why would you do that

>>160318191
>having no idea what is being talked about and still posting
why would you do that

>>160318191
for better or worse, BR is seen as comparable to HotS, dota, league, HoN

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>>160318337
>>160318623
>not getting the joke
get the fuck out of here

>>160317598
It's a lot more alive than BR and will still be there long after its death.

>>160318191
>admitting a mobile game has more depth than BR
why would you do that?

>>160319346
where did i say that? don't be silly faggot

>>160280060
>eldo and velrosk are gods
Makes me sick reading shit like this when it fact they are doing nothing but exploit a broken stun into 60% health comb. Its not hard to exploit this sort of synergy especially considering how retarded and dumb the buffs to Croak were.

>>160279963
It gets boring because no variety
Matchmaking is cancer
At higher tiers you just get stomped by parties so single queuers pretty much die off and the playerbase cannibalizes itself

http://www.strawpoll.me/11663417

ded

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>>160315006

>>160316925
Battlerekt 3s are on friday

>>160330362
3 teams registered right now. I know of a bunch of people who are busy friday, so I doubt it will go past 10-15 tops.

>>160330362
why is everyone excited about Battlerekt? There were a lot of tourneys before?
Is this newfagging?

>>160331471
Shilling.

>>160331471
Nobody talks about other tourneys and battlerekt just happened

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>>160335779
>nobody talks
because 2s are boring as fuck

the 2s final was really really good, im guessing thats why battlerekt is getting more attention.

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don't forget to fill out this survey

>>160337097
Nobody talked about the 3s tourney that happened a couple days ago either, people only like to complain in this general

Post your champion ideas.

Illusionist like champion:
Can create copies of allies.
Ultimate turns your team invisible for a couple of second.

Ex makes the enemy team see you as one of them for a short while, as in if they have a rook, they will see two rook allies instead of one.

Mobity ability just summons a bunch of clones of you that move randomly.

another option is a necromancer so it can revive this ded thread

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>>160338515
> spamming about 3s and MM remake in surveys
I hope that's all not for nothing

>>160341431
Well at least they realized that the MM leaves something to be desired.

>>160345234
man, there are no "matchmaking" in the list
so no, the didn't

>>160345323
it's not in the list because they already plan on "tweaking" it

>>160345762
That's bullshit improvements and you know it

>>160345859
the mm is fine there just aren't enough players and people at the top are sitting on their ranking now that everyone else is

the only way they can actually solve this is to cut a ranked queue and focus on one, which will cause some people to drop the game and isn't something they will do

they're going to implement season based mmr and rating decay to try to get the top players to play more, but the real problem is how shallow the game is in 2v2 and that isn't going to be addressed

casuals are going to complain about any system that doesn't constantly tell them that they're amazing, they'll just grade stretch and inflate points and maybe prevent rating loss below a certain rating

all of it is pointless when they won't address the game's real issues, and they don't get that the casuals are mostly only interested in watching the pros play and don't care about actually playing the game much

>>160347090
this is fairly accurate, TrueSkill wouldn't be as terrible as it is now if there were enough people around your rank playing

If you're G13 and so is everyone else in the match, the point gain/loss is fine. it only breaks down when that is rarely the case or if the playerbase psychologically feels like gains are too slow, i.e. winning for an entire day and only gaining 50 rating, or 10% of what you'd need to have it reflect that you achieved something

As it stands it's just terrible because the playerbase can't support trueskill and the gaps between grades are fucking miles apart given what the point rewards are

>>160338515
please don't waste your surveys talking about matchmaking and 3v3 or 2v2 focus or whatever

use it to tell them how bored you are with champion kits. tell them how every character having a counter or consume is hurting the game and ruining the individuality of characters. tell them how the blandness of ability designs means that the outplay potential doesn't exist at higher levels when it should, and that all they have done is lower the skill ceiling by far far too much.

>>160350362
people are bargaining for what they can get at this point

lol if you think they'll add a full additional ability and/or rework all the existing abilities this late in development and this close to f2p

>>160277192
>grade 12 playing against grade 8's and 9's

wow. i thought the game being dead was a meme

>>160351159
if you try 2s or 3s as a full party of g13s you flat out break matchmaking

i haven't seen placement players in a long time, but i have seen G10s pretty regularly after the game says fuck it and gives up

>>160350693
i don't think they will at all, but if a significant amount of people ask for it (and people in the secret club already have before) then they'll have to consider it.

even a slightly reworked champion every patch is worth it in the long run (ashka loses Pure Fire in exchange for Fire Beam back on ex M2, varesh shield moves to R and regains old Waji/Woje spells on space, rook counter replaced with Stone Shield)

you know, changes to 1 or 2 abilities that give them more uniqueness and variety in playstyle

>>160352040
>rook counter replaced with Stone Shield

Yes please, I miss that glorious shield.

I've been wondering, is there a reason why they decided to avoid continuous área damage suck as the old glutton E?

Those are not Hard to use and are fun too.

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honestly just want to queue dodge every game i get a ruh kaan against a healer and a good melee dps

really glad you're allowed to get queued without one while i get no cc worthless fucks every game

>>160359367
there are multiple moves that do that?

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Let's say that matchmaking and samey characters get dealt with.

Make one change to the gameplay to improve it.

>>160361228
That are not ultimates? I can only think of the igniter's R.

>>160359367
because when hit boxes are so large and when movement speed is so slow that you can only dodge with movement abilities, sustained aoe damage becomes OP

see: jumong r

also it probably doesn't fall into the design philosophy of making every char the same

>As soon as this game goles f2p it will be filled with Brs

Better ded than hued

>>160361648
official game mode is bombing run from ut2k4

>tfw stuck at 2930-2990 for 2 days now
GIVE ME GRADE 11 REEEE

>>160361648
female champions lose their clothing as their health starts falling down until only their underwear is on.

>>160361648
5 battlerites per round
more than one worthwhile battlerite per tier

Why do certain abilities/auto attacks have weird vortex's (you get sucked further into the enemy/ability then away)

Gunner lady's ultimate sometimes sucks you further into the aoe blasts each shot. Lightning mace chicks auto attack(smash I think?) also has vortex's on it that just sucks you in each hit. I think I saw it happen with an Iva rocket once. And rarely with Ashka's right click.

Is this intentional?

>>160387642
it's toxic behavior to dodge attacks

man I hope reddit doesnt flood the survey with make movespeed slower pls, more jumongs XD

>>160391105
If anything faster movespeed would be great.

what works good with rook in 3s?

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>Mfw I discovered that ashka has a petrify

I think the most satisfying thing about this whole game is hitting Rook's R+E+M2 combo.

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>>160401310
I think the most satisfying thing is punishing Astronomer's awful counter.

>>160402321
>that anal rape
Well, at least it was so fast that he probably didn't even feel it.

>>160403007
his own damn fault for not knowing c exists

>>160401310
>hitting a guaranteed combo

yeah insanely satisfying (???)

>>160401310
>Few will know the joy of EX M2=>Shatter=>EX M2=>Shatter=>Judgement
>Getting stuck in Lucie's/Poloma's/Ezmo's ult and getting pulled out because people hit your counter.
>Cucking the spear nigger out of his ult with shield stun

nice thread faggots

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hotshot is streaming BR

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>>160418416

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Anyone else autistically saving up all of their chests and gold for the December patch?

Legendary outfits when

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>>160422660
I'm saving gold and shit, but for "future services"

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>>160423972
are you that rooskie anon that bought 45 gold chests for the US equivalent of $7

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>>160424376
yes

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>>160424631
>Furry Poloma
Now you've done it.

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>on your knees

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I listed more detailed lore as a top priority for me. I feel that a game becomes inherently more interesting if there's more flavor, interactions and overall purpose behind that which is presented. It works for Overwatch.

>>160322891

The sad thing is, Teldoo thinks this makes him good, and he has an army of retards watching his stream agreeing with him.

>>160363976
It's almost like they shouldn't have made the game with these retard sized hitboxes, super slow movement speed, and projectiles as wide as the aforementioned retard sized hitboxes.

>>160426460
Only when your feet can touch the ground.

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After hearing that "separate ranks per player" thing i ditched 2s completely and started spamming normal 3s to practice.
Holy shit this is much more fun than 2s

>>160428908
>"separate ranks per player" thing
Huh?

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>>160429215

>>160428908
3s with voice com (in a premade) really is the god tier of fun you can have with this game. If only the devs realized this too and maybe there would be hope for this game after all

>>160429215
it's "multiple and separate ranks per player"

Meaning that you'll have a rank for 2v2, a rank for 3v3 and a rank for solo. I hope they implement it like in BLC where each team you are part of will have a different rank. Of course this led to people just reforming their team over and over until they won all their placement games.

GLAVONA has got to be the worst player I have ever seen. Thats one of you people, isnt it?

>>160430954
>"GLAVONA"
>not "HiltersBlackCock"
probably not from here

It's weird that it takes a survey to find out what players want. If anyone is producing a game, they can just play the game to see what the issue is.
Or they could have just listened to the top players to get feedback, a survey was redundant.

We can encompass all the issues of the gameplay really into "it needs to be faster", and there are a lot of solutions for that

>higher damage/lower health for everyone
>sudden death happens in 1:30 instead of 2 minutes
>make max health +30 instead of +40

I want to talk about the last one. If you really fuck somebody up, they can get away and get healed, it's kind of annoying. You have to do more than 40 damage to get any real effects, but I think it should be more like 30. Healthbars will go down way quicker this way and make it seem more satisfiying to execute combos.

Also, sudden death should start at 1:30. Too many games are dragged on because a squirrely support or croak is just running away, and you have to wait at the orbs for the map to just kill him. When combined with the +30 max health, the game will end a lot faster anyway

>>160431132
>Or they could have just listened to the top players to get feedback, a survey was redundant.
here the thing - they are making the game for 400k people (for now), not for top30

>>160431729
>not for top30

The game needs to be interesting enough to keep the top players engaged otherwise the competitive scene will die and the casuals will lose interest even faster than they do now.

>>160432120
Balancing a game strictly for competitive can leave casuals disenfranchised. Just because YOU know how to beat something intricate doesn't mean Joe Pubber knows how to.

>>160431729
>>160432120
The top players are a precursor to the casuals. The people who know the game the best are usually the first ones to complain and the first ones to come across these issues.

The game is boring and it isn't engaging. This isn't the gameplay's fault, but healing's fault. Being able to heal forty hp back is just absurd and negates anything you do.

"Oh you did 40 and dodged all of my damage? Well I'll just run away and heal all of it back by right clicking"

Instead of just outplaying your opponent, you have to grind out a win, which is not fun in a game that's supposed to fast paced and high action

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>swecucks don't have the balls to make a move

>>160432448
The game is boring and isn't engaging because they dumbed it down compared to BLC.

BLC was better balanced, champions were more unique, and there was a lot more outplay potential than there is in Battlerite.

Oddly enough, healing was far more effective in BLC than it is in Battlerite, yet somehow the games were even faster paced and you didn't see sudden death nearly as often.

Healing isn't what is causing the slow paced games in Battlerite, it's the fact that when they redesigned characters for Battlerite, they plugged up all the holes in their kits and made everyone too survivable even without healing. For example, there's no reason Ashka should get a shield after his space, no reason he should have an AoE petrify.

TL;DR - The ridiculous amount of iframes, escapes and mitigation that champions have in Battlerite are the reasons for the slow pace of Battlerite, not healing.

>>160432254
Balancing a game strictly for the casuals makes the game boring for the pros (this is the current state of Battlerite). Balancing strictly for casuals also leads to things that are incredibly broken in the hands of good players.

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>>160433717

>>160434013
call of duty is a dumb, simple, skilless game yet it does fantastic because it's engaging. You're constantly in the action and people die when you shoot at them. Shoot enough brown people and you can call in some godlike killstreak.

I GUARANTEE you that healing is the issue. Having all of your efforts wasted because they could just back up from the orb and heal both slows the game down a lot, and makes it feel like you don't have an impact on the game.

>>160434771

I've never been engaged by a Call of Duty game. Well I enjoyed the campaings in the first CoD game, but the multiplayer has always been shallow to me. That's entirely subjective. What I'm pointing out is the -fact- that healing was far more effective in BLC yet the games never slowed down like they do in Battlerite.

So, if healing was more effective, shouldn't the games have been even slower? Hmm that's weird. Let's think about how the gameplay changes when healing is far more effective. Right off the top of my head, I can say that it was possible to heal through pressure; there was often no need to retreat. That combined with the fact that people were more "punishable" in BLC meant that more damage was going out and every mistake had bigger consequences. If you make a mistake in Battlerite, you often have several other ways to mitigate that mistake; that is what slows the game down.

>>160435724
Battlerite is a massively different game from blc. Different map layout, damage numbers , the whole battlerite system, different abilities

Big combos should have an effect, and they don't with +40 hp.

>>160434771
it's 100% not because of healing. it's because characters have no good combos or outplay potential because of the designs of their kits, not because the enemy can heal.

>>160436707
The damage numbers are pretty similar. They just got multiplied by 100 in BLC so they could have a finer gradient of balance.(i.e. changing something from 110 to 105 instead of from 11 to 10.5). Proportionate to HP, the damage was roughly the same.

>>160436819
Thank you, finally someone here with a brain.

The issue was giving characters panic buttons for when they fuck up. Just look at Elmo, he has a long range, high damage pull, a root, a lot of mobility. And then they gave him a shield lol

>>160432448
healers can't even outheal 2 people attacking 1 person, let alone 3, you have 0 idea what you're saying lol

>>160438853
This. It's difficult to stall for time so you can heal when enemies are bearing down on you. Any time you spend stopping to heal is free time the enemy has to close the gap on you/heal themselves up.

>something like Jade Croak really takes a lot to make it work
-Teldo 2016

The more I hear this fat piece of shit talk the more I ask myself how delusional he is. Literally the perfect partner for Verosk who pulls this shit on a daily basis as well.

>>160445008
Seeing all the terrible 2v2 players get BTFO early in Masters of Bacon was ok at least.

You should watch the games with the "top ranked" 2v2 Shifu players in particular, they look like complete idiots and throw multiple games for their team.

>>160445008
lol

He acts like it's so hard to stunlock one opponent so gunner gets a free snipe on it.

>>160445008
You have to realize that at this point the only people "seriously" playing it competitively are the ones who have deluded themselves into thinking the game requires more skill than it does.

>yfw SLS literally said today that the negative attitude of a lot of the testers on the discord group demotivates them because all they do all day is insult them

>>160447449
Yup, the Overwatch effect

>>160447819
The Discord testers are an abusive husband: they beat the devs because they love them.

>>160448163
Literally what one of them responded. They only insult them because they are emotionally attached to the game.

>>160448274
link to this discord?

>>160448549
>this new
A link wont give you shit. Its tripple and quadrupple locked by SLS. Inviite only and you had to literally provide game keys to get access to the channels because they double and tripple checked you identity.

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>>160448750
It's triple, anon.

>>160448950
Fuck Anglos

>>160447819
>>160448163
>>160448274
Screenshot that shit.

>>160449078
Please do not say rude things

>>160447819
that's fine because battlerite is so dumbed down its insulting

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>>160447819
top fucking jej

maybe if they stopped releasing terrible and halfbaked ideas along with not understanding what makes the game survive at the top level past a month they'd stop getting laughed at

no wonder teldo gets along with them so well, they're all overly sensitive fucks

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>>160447819
I sincerely hope some of them watched Daniel's stream today, he pointed out a ton of obviously broken shit

Some dev probably watched that and then broke down emotionally

>>160450457
what's Daniel's stream? What shit did he point out?

>>160450761
https://www.twitch dot tv/danielfromblc

>>160451278
He was mediocre at best in BLC

>>160451392
>talking shit without a name

>>160451445
welcome to 4chan

>>160451843
welcome to /vg/

>>160451915
thanks where do i register for my account

oh yea

>>160447449
>>160448009
you're shitters, and you don't get to talk

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>>160450761
Things like how certain champion's abilities have zero counterplay and do a ton of things for how easy they are to land. Stuff like Sirius charged M1, Bakko E, the un-fun nature of playing as or against Oldur, Jumong's unrivaled superiority specifically against other ranged, battlerites being worthless, and how it affects the high end scene and the long term viability of the game

Stuff you'll see posted here with more detail and nuance and autism. Can watch the most recent video on his page to see it.

>>160452523
And you're a delusional shitter.

>>160454480
you're like a fat guy who says dieting doesn't matter. You have no credibility because you're 400 pounds.

The people who don't win aren't taken seriously when it comes to statements about skill, because they are demonstrably the ones with the least success

>>160447819
the vast majority of it is KlernY just endlessly talking shit about 2s, ruh kaan, and reddit. literally nonstop.

>>160454771
you're like someone practicing competitive anorexia and trying to belittle people who don't want to get physiological damage with you

>>160418521
I ran into him like 3 days ago and said some dumb shit 'cause I didn't think it was actually him. I guess I was wrong.

>>160455749
Hes a child anyways.

>>160454771
There's no point in taking the game seriously when the devs don't.

You're putting all this time and effort in just to reach the extremely low skill ceiling. Then you think you're hot shit because you won a 2v2 twitch tourney with 4 total team entries.

>>160455840
Literally not an argument

>>160456123

I'm waiting for the December patch to really decide anything. That video onin put out at least stirred some conversations up and SLS had their survey.

I'm not gonna throw it away just yet

>>160454226
>Stuff like Sirius charged M1

He makes some good points, but he's also heavily skewing things towards his own main(Shifu).

For example, he compares the amount of damage Sirius can burst saying "that's the amount of damage in 1 second that shifu does in like 3". He's glossing over the fact that Sirius' M1,R,M1 burst combo is extremely telegraphed, he has to use his only out to get in on you, and after that burst there's nothing. Meanwhile Shifu's kit allows him to stay on you for much much much longer and apply more damage over time than Sirius can and doesn't have to expend energy to do so aaaaand with his immaterial you're totally safe while doing it.

He's so biased it's not even funny.

>>160460085
All the 2v2 players only think about the game in terms of everyone hurring at eachother with no team involvement.

>>160428908
Why doesn't shifu wear his hat?

>>160463884
so you can buy it with real life money

>>160454226
i need a hug

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>>160447819
what the fuck is wrong with this devs

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>>160476423
>what the fuck is wrong with this devs

they're all SWEDEN YES
abdul is probably fucking their wives while telling them not to nerf his favorite spear chucker

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>>160479903
>literally garners less interest than what pose your character makes when you win

why is everything terrible

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is he mental or smth?

>>160480051
see: >>160455749

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>>160478012
just hire some finnish folks

>>160479975
uh if you dont think ashka fryin up a pound of bacon with his fire powers is not epic as hell then get out of my face

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>>160484134
>SLS will probably incorporate this style of pose in the future

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>>160479975
DOWNVOTED

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>>160479903
>top post in this thread is this fucking retard
why i'm even bothering with this shit place jesus
sorry for bringing ledit again

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>>160487327
>players that weren't around for BLC or know anything about it trying to explain why BLC is dead

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>There are people literally saying that this game shouldn't be BLC2 even though what made BLC good is why it got a "spiritual successor" in the fucking first place

They remove what was fun in BLC from BR and whenever someone complains, I get this stupid excuse

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>>160489428
>"this game shouldn't be BLC2"
>devs literally say in every trailer "The next chapter of BLC"
yeah i see a a little bit of conflict here

>>160487327
What I dont get is why people who havent played enough matches to be out of placement think that they are in a position to judge the games qualities or issues. People really consider their own opinions to be way too important.

>>160489848
that's easy
because they are dumb and entitled casuals living in a hugbox

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>>160489848
If you really want to get mad, start looking at the Masterbattlerite of the people who get highly upvoted on balance concepts or "game is fine guys" posts. The vast, vast majority don't break 3k, and most are sporting a negative win percentage.

They're all laughably bad and are still convinced they know best despite never playing in the ranks they claim to know how to balance.

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>standard still matches you with brand new players against G13s

So I get a guaranteed loss, my opponents get a brainless game that provides absolutely nothing, and the new player gets his shit pushed in without even understanding why because the matchmaking has no semblance of balance

well fucking done SLS

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I've seen this behavior before. It's league of legends behavior. Blind praise, idiot noobs saying how to balance the game, complete lack of understanding

Fuck, we even have a retard here who says "competitiveness" is bad and is what's killing games. I cannot overstate how cancerous league babies are, they infect and destroy anything they touch.

>>160490735
>standard still matches
it's always have been like that
they fucked up ranked and then added fucked up unranked

>>160487327
how is someones head so far up their own ass that they think they can even have a valid opinion on game balance and mechanics BEFORE FINISHING THE FUCKING PLACEMENT MATCHES

its like learning your times tables and going, "yeah math is pretty fucking easy in my opinion, I dont know why anyone would even get paid to learn any more, let alone teach it"

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>>160492692
he played LoL for 7 years so according to him, he's opinion is valid for every other game he plays
:^(

>>160492947
how is it even possible to play that game for that long

>>160493323
hes probably lying and he didn't even mention his rank in any of his shitposts

>>160492947
did he play 1 game a month?

thats the only way I can see someone stomaching LoL for 7 years

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i wonder what kind of feedback they'll get from survey

>>160494335
i wrote 5 paragraphs that theyll ignore

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>>160494335
The game is almost perfect as it is, please don't try to speed up anything, it would ruin the flow of the game. I really like how you've been creatively reusing abilities to form new champions, keep doing that! Even if the abilities are the same, the combination of all of them together can make the character play uniquely with them! I am a grade 6 player and really love playing 2s. To me it is the best game mode and the most competitive. I think you should focus on making that the main game mode for battlerite. That said, even though you've done such a good job with the game (a REALLY good job, you guys are so underappreciated!) I think one or two characters stand out as imbalanced. Varesh and Iva need to be nerfed, they are unhealthy for the game in their current state. Everyone I meet is playing these broken characters and it is really frustrating for me to give it my all only to feel robbed of a win by these two.

>>160494335
>We've received a lot of feedback from players saying that the current pace of the game and how easy it is to pick up each champion are great! With that in mind we're going to keep doing what were doing!

>>160494335
>>160494646
I also wrote a short essay that will probably be droned out by all of the 1 sentence "I'm still in placement matches but from what I can tell the games perfect as is, don't change a thing!" responses

also probably this
>>160494673

>>160487327
check our all his other posts there just as cancer

change varesh R to inhibitor space

ded

>>160500963
as it should be
(saged to stay dead)

pls no die

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>no blood or gibs
>tumblr art design

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>shifu uses 3 charges impale against countering rook

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So I'm reading all this drama from last night, and it's funny how some of the crowd who've never played BLC are mad that we want basically a second BLC
At some point they need to just slow and listen, instead of acting on their honeymoon phase emotions.

A good game isn't just impressive at the start. It has to be continuously high quality, even as your playtime reaches the thousands of hours.
Initially the game is fun for people! It's like hotline miami but with characters and spells! It feels good using iframes and counters, or to outplay someone else.

But as time goes on and they get better, they'll start seeing the serious flaws. They'll see in time. Just give it time.

>>160505176
That's generally how it goes. Once the honeymoon is over, the game will get very annoying.

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>>160505176
>as time goes on

The thing is, a large portion of them will never hit a grade where the problems become apparent. At G8 I'm sure the game looks like roses all the way down because if that's your cap on mechanical ability, you're not going to be able to see any of the issues the game has.

There's too much of a disconnect. The guy in his placements getting positive feedback on his thoughts on pacing is a perfect example - most of reddit is around that skill level, so of course the current speed feels fine to them. Some of them probably even mentioned in the survey they'd like it slowed down.

The biggest threat to the game is if the game breaks down so hard at a high level that whatever you want to call "pros" stop playing the game, leading to zero interesting competition going on. Most casual players are more interested in watching games than playing them, and if there's no high end to watch, they'll stop playing even faster.

You know how little people actually care at this point when you have an entire Google doc for buffs, nerfs and overall character changes that all muh secret club players have access to, neatly organized by characters and type of change yet there only like 5-10 people who participate and type stuff. Literally fucking dead game.

>>160514337
Maybe everyone else discusses the doc, and those few edit it.

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They're going to get tons of negative survey feedback and just get too "depressed" to continue developing the game and then take their money and run

>>160515052
No one is discussing shit. SLS even claimed that there are some people who refuse to give feedback because they are tired of being accused of pushing their own agenda or something. Thats BRITE balancing right now. The people whose feedback SLS would like to hear are people who are too weak to defend their suggestions. Pathetic if you ask me.

>>160515231
Hence the public survey on at least the overarching themes of the game.

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>>160515215
holy shit what if they actually read this general

we might actually kill a SLS developer with stress

>>160514337
>>160515231
>>160515324
maybe they should let people into the secret tester group that aren't idiots who only played 2v2 in BLC, the game that was completely balanced around 3v3

>>160515423
Some devs are known to lurk the /vg/ general for their game. Most all devs never openly admit that they trawl 4chan, but they do show up. It's uncertain if SLS reads /brg/, and if they do, they haven't acknowledged it.

>>160515423
This general isnt even remotely as bad as the Discord group. Some people are pretty extreme on it. One guy literally said multiple times that the server doesnt exist to tell them that they are doing a good job. It exclusively exists to point out what they are doing wrong. You will have a hard time finding compliments or positive feedback on that server. There is a small group of real fucking SLS bullies, and then you have a shit ton who just bullies a bit and some who dont even care anymore. Its pretty sad to watch.

>>160515596
They're swedes, I highly doubt it.

>>160515624
>not kicking annoying faggots
What the fuck are they doing? Are they emotionally attached to bullies or something

>>160517494
>kicking bullies
Based on the shit I have read on that Discord I'd rather kick everybody else. At least the bullies point out issues. The others are just sucking dick. How is that going to help anyone?

>>160517494
>Invite foreign invaders to steal all your money and rape all your women and murder all your children
>Spend all your time complaining about how evil your own men are and trying to jail anyone who criticizes invading men

What do you think?

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>>160517676
there are things that battlerite does better than blc though
like have players

>>160517676
new patch didn't hit yet?

>>160517776
I bet you do lots of things better too, like being such a sarcastic and friendless fuck that he drives everyone away from anything he associates with.

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The devs were unhappy that the testers were constantly berating them huh?
Well that's bound to happen when you consistently ignore the people who are putting in so much more time and effort to make your game actually good for you.
Making video games is hard, and it's a competitive market for people's money.
So when you just ignore the fuckers who play this garbage day in and day out, trying to show you how to fix it, you better believe it that they're angry.

It's the annoyance of putting in so much into a bad game, and trying to show the devs the broken shit.
They don't play their own game. I'm certain of this. Shit like bakko's shield bash hitbox being huge should have been fixed months ago. Anyone who plays this game a lot knows how unbearable it is. Yet, it takes a fucking survey to st least bring it up to the devs.

DO YOU REALLY NEED A GODDAM SURVEY? CANT YOU JUST PLAY THE GAME AND SEE IT FOR YOURSELF?
IS IT FUN TO HAVE TWO GRADE 10 RETARDS ON YOUR TEAM WITH NO SUPPORTS, AGAINST GRADE 11 AND 12 BAKKO AND TWO HEALER CHEESE, PROBABLY USING VOIP?

And then you lose points from it, which is actually a good thing according the devs!
They've been ignoring these issues for months, and then they wonder why we're dipleased?

Finally, the cherry on top is how they said it demotivated them. Ya, wasn't like you were doing all that much in the first place you Swedish cucks

>>160520514
>implying anyone is using shield bash
it's garbage m8

>>160520514
>CANT YOU JUST PLAY THE GAME AND SEE IT FOR YOURSELF?
Some things can be lost on you if you don't have an outside opinion to give you perspective. "Play your own game and find the problems" is a flawed argument to an extent. That's why they have the testers and the survey.

>>160521045
You know I meant shield dash, the bullshit that stuns you and allows him to combo you

>>160521271
Ok, what's wrong with it?
Did you get you ass raped by Bakko? It's fine, just play RK

>>160521271
So your solution to the ridiculously large hitboxes is play another champion? Off yourself you apologist

>>160521230
>That's why they have the testers
Who they dont listen to

>and the survey
Which is practically worthless.

>>160521672
all hitboxes needs to be fixed, not only Bakko's
i just tested it, it's only a little bit off the pointer

>>160521892
>Which is practically worthless.
How do you figure?

>>160521439
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd5sApb4DB4

>bakko players think this is fine

>>160524337
Are you stupid or smth? This wall edges were always retarded.
Can't believe someone can be buttblasted this much because of that

>>160522525
They can only get feedback we've already been giving them and they ignore it, or stupid bullshit feedback like 'slow down the gameplay, not enough lore'

>>160524740
Go play Minecraft you apologist shitter

>>160525679
>apologist
i literally said that all hitboxes need to be fixed, not just Bakko's
fucking clown, it's not even funny anymore

>>160525679
>>160525826
git gud

>>160528884
Sorry I got out of class. Look, your first response was to just play another champion. That's an awful solution to his hitbox problems, you were so condescending while being so wrong, I felt like I was talking to a liberal

>>160528884
Also you replied to yourself because you weren't confident enough to just let your post stand on its own, which shows even you don't think it's right

prepare for more klerny rage after this game

>>160530003
>>160530124
not me but git gud

http://www.strawpoll.me/11681014

http://www.strawpoll.me/11681014

tfw no br bf

>>160532171
The game is only $20, and you're guaranteed all champs for life, regardless of what SLS decides later.

-4 points 2 days ago
That's our chance!! A 1v1 mode, ranked and normal! Is someone with me? Anyone..? D: Lets VOTE for 1v1 guys comone :D!!
Maybe increasing the level cap. You're max level in no time ._. More stuff which is increasing the motivation, if you currently not in game. Things to collect, archievments perhabs. More customization for the champions.

does anyone else really fucking hate the 'pull' mechanic that ruh kaan and elmo have, it was already on shifu but it was an EX that nobody used. shit's so fucking obnoxious, and on top of it, elmo's stuns if he takes the t1 br which everyone does, i don't think it's overpowered but holy fuck does it tilt me

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>>160524337
hey, that's my video!!

>>160524337
he needs it

>>160541725
no, what they NEED to do is fix that, and give him something that actually isn't glitchy to make him better

>>160539936
no because it was a core part of harbinger's kit and it's one of the few reasons he's an okay melee character. it's stupid on ezmo though, a short ranged character should have to focus on getting themselves into range of an enemy, not pulling the enemy into m1 range

>shifu EX nobody used
t. grade 8 PRO

is jade's e by far the strongest core ability in the game or is it just me

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>>160542785
It's pretty good in a vacuum, but that's because her only realistic battlerite in 99% of situations is tagging a root onto a .2s cast long ranged projectile

Clarity potion is probably the strongest single ability that isn't an ult

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>playing against the same 6 people all night on a Friday night

Daniel going on another rant again

>>160543059
>Clarity potion is probably the strongest single ability that isn't an ult
this. the fact that they removed EMP from engineer makes this super strong too

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>>160549383
>I'm not in the super secret testing group where I have the developer's ear

I should have known he came here

>PEAK TODAY
>3,186

It was 5K last week.
This shit is dead before it even fully releases.

>>160541375
kill yourself reddit shitbird

>>160550118
I think 4 months of EA is killing it. The CB should have been right before release IMO.

God I miss dawngate

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>>160543059
You are good in a vacuum.

>>160552191
Sounds like a meem game.

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>>160552227
t-thanks anon

I think we should be able to enter normal and ranked que at the same time.

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>not even shit posting closeted neckbeard can keep this general alive

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>>160556968
I can't even be bothered to save it from page 10 anymore. The matchmaking is shit. The dynamics of 2v2 are shit. The playerbase is shit. Hitboxes are huge and full of shit. Devs are full of shit.

I hope it burns.

>>160557202
Dont say that anon! you can do it!
Save us all from ded.

I thought that playing with high ping was going to be horrible, but playing in a 170 ping servers seems fine to me. What gives?

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>>160559267
This chan is afraid of me...I have seen its true face. The threads are extended gutters and the gutters are full of shitposts and when the drains finally scab over, all the newfags will drown.
The accumulated filth of all their faggotry and avatar-fagging will foam up about their waists and all the attention whores and sekrit club members will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll look down and whisper "No."

>>160562891
;_;

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>>160528884
i don't know what the fuck is going on anymore

I just started playing, thinking of ranked. At what point do I qualify as gud?

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3v3 NA tournament streaming on battlerekt
note how much more entertaining to watch this is than Euro players

>>160566185
>same fucking characters
>more entertaining
explain

>>160566395
More characters probably.

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>tfw too intelligent to enjoy Brite

e-sports was a mistake.

>>160568419
Bye.

what's worse, "BattleRekt" or "Masters of Bacon"?
I vote for first

>>160568583
are you talking about the names or the players?
masters of bacon is worse in both categories

>>160568716
names

any varesh players in battlerekt?

>>160568992
>Varesh

One of these days I'll not suck with him.

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>>160568510

Game is advertised as ''super-skilled hardcore esport arena brawler''
>giant hitboxes
>all characters have slow as fuck move speed
>can't even dodge basic ranged m1's without blowing a 9+ second movement CD
>practically zero ways to truly outplay your opponents
>very few heroes can do combos
>if they can combo its extremely telegraphed and easy to dodge
>cookie-cutter battlerite builds
>2's favored over 3's
>matches are either long poke wars or a race to see which team can zerg someone down fastest. boring either way
>no character feels inherently unique or special compared to the rest
>TrueSkill
what did i miss?

>>160570440
>what did i miss?
git gud

Why is Ruh Kaan so fun holy shit!
>huge ammounts of sustain
>raged burst damage
>3 mobility spells
>ultimate turns you into a sexy beast

If only he had CC.

>>160571624
You can get the silence/root battlerites for him. I like the silence battlerite for his charge attack, but I'm not a fan of the root on his pull.

>>160572489
I sometimes go for the silence, but missing the extra fucks me over from time to time, specially later in the game when it applies curse.

M1+Q+M1 with the silence is great though, makes people panic like crazy.

>>160572489
Don't get the silence. You are a bad player if you get anything but double space.

>paloma is still allowed to have her bullshit wolf which does a million damage, heals, androots on a 6 second cd

>>160572939
I think they either need to nerf the jump battlerite or buff the other two.

Making M2 Ruh Kaan viable would be fun.

>>160573310
Isn't the ghost wolf super telegraphed?

>>160574031
does it matter when you can bounce it off shit and it has a lower cooldown than every defensive cooldown in the game?

>>160574443
that pisses me off when she hits the orb on purpose and it bounces

>>160571624
because he's OP right now and they gonna nerf him next patch
Enjoy while you can

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>>160575863
Enjoy him with me.

If the devs keep nerfing lucie's EX moves what will she spend her meter on?

>>160576776

>>160576776
If only there was this move that used all your energy.

http://steamspy.com/app/504370
>400,000 owners
>3,000 players online

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>>160577879

>>160577165
>lucie
>ulting

>>160578254
>If the devs keep nerfing lucie's EX moves

>>160578697
its probably not possible to nerf her EXs to the point where her ult would be a viable choice

>>160578864
>Deadly Injection: Increases movement speed by 35% for 2s. Heals nearby enemies for 24 health when the effect ends.
>Petrify Bolt: Petrify yourself for 3s.

Am I being memed on or are you shitters seriously saying that Lucies Ult is bad? Its not even bad in 2s while in 3s is probably one of the stronger ones.

>>160579247
it's a waste of meter in both, her ex moves will give you way more mileage

there's not a single character that has an ult that's worth it out of a random situation where you just got the meter for it and the perfect setup just happened, and unless you picked up the meter from a dead teammate you would have done better to that point burning it on ex moves

>>160579461
I seriously hope that this is a bait post at this point. I cant believe that people call a situational ult worthless just because its not exceptional in every situation they could possibly imagine. No idea what grade youre sitting on, or what level you play on, but saying that EX abilities always give you more mileage than Goo is probably the most delusional shit I have read in this thread for a while. Especially with shit like RuhKhan being top tier right now.

>>160579726
he's incredibly easy to petrify and petrifying him makes him worthless, only retards will get caught in ult and if you get an ult you could have gained more control earlier with meter use

So, the main observation about patch date is this announcement about demonic steed being available at Dec 4th but it didn't work with warhound

>>160580890
They havent told us anything related to an upcoming patch so I wouldnt get my hopes up.

>>160580949
well, next patch gonna be 1.0
so it's gonna be huge in content

>>160581106
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT

>>160581106
>next patch gonna be 1.0
I highly doubt that. 1.0 is the shit that companies call the release patch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3556MCFv1nU

Thorn when?
Bloodpriest when?

Hoping Harridean returns so i can beat him again when?

>>160581246
>>160581256
Every big patch had +0.1 number, so go figure

>>160581418
>caring about new heroes when the whole game is a mess
that's how to spot a newfag

>>160581472
Seemed good in the close beta desu

>>160581472
f2p is in 2017 and the next patch will be MM changes