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STRONGEST SWORD edition

>[Knights of the Round Table bait gacha]
11/9 to 11/16

>[Around a Week with Santa Alter Lite]
11/16 to 11/22
4* Santa Alter Available again
Christmas gacha limited to 7 resets

-Event CE
5* Holy Night Sign -Quick up 8%, Crit Damage 15%, Stocking drops +20%
5* Present for My Master -Crit Weight 100%, HP recovered 40%, Star drop+1
4* March of Saints -200 HP each turn, 3% NP each turn, Silver bell drop +1
3* Lightning Reindeer -Buster 15% (3 turns) Ribbon Drop + 1

[Christmas Rerun Gatcha]
5* Jack
4* Nursery Rhyme
4* Marie
3* Jing Ke
3* Robin Hood

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php
- New vers - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones&androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game
- Mashu's voice actress has been replaced with Rie Takahashi as Risa Taneda remains on hiatus to recover from illness. Her other roles remain unchanged
>New bond CEs:
http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/d2nmp3/
-Rare Prisms have been added to Da Vinci's Shop (Gained from using 4* or 5* servants as Reinforcement materials or burning, Welfare servants excluded)
-Rare Prisms are used to purchase previous event items
-Next stream 12/6
-Babylon coming in December
-New Christmas event coming in December
-FGO Anime announced

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/cJ9J0t45

>FL Spreadsheet
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org

>Alternate servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html

>CMs
http://www.mediafire.com/download/960gn6g6w2p0l8q/FGO+Material+I.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wj405jjjc9ly94e/FGO+Material+II.zip
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Soon.
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>>160142362
Gram is equal how can it be the strongest?
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Guan Yu 5* when lads
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Tamamo!
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Good night /fgog/
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>160142362
>not even galaxy buster
Ea is still GG
>>160142632
Is that guy like the chink bootleg nobu?
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>>160142632
Fuck off, RoTKfag.
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>>160142684
Night.
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Pharaoh!
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xth for best archer.
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>>160142717
Ea is a staff.
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>>160142684
>saber has the same fashion sense for sleepwear as you
Neat
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>>160142758
I hate this overwanked Gil ripoff so much.
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>>160142794
It's clearly a sword just look at it. Trust me in a sword, I know when I see a sword friend
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>>160142717
Ea isn't a sword
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>Gilgamesh wins Seiba
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>>160142684
I love wearing this when I go to sleep. It is so damn comfy but too bad sometimes I wake up with nip slips but I am glad no one is living with me.
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>>160142939
It clearly works like one
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remember to treat your 3* servants kindly
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>>160142976
CAMELOT
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>>160142717
Galaxy Buster meme is just shitposting, but Ea is still stronger than Excalibur.

Even after seeing anti-world mode during Ataraxia and CCC, its noted in FSF that the sword was still stronger during life. Excalibur is the strongest sword that the planet created, but Ea is the sword from before the planet. Its potentially an alien weapon. Its the only weapon we know outside of the natural system.

They're both wanked to hell though. Although with how things are going, maybe Babylon will either wank or de-wank Ea again, to confirm it to be stronger than we thought, or entirely weaker than Excalibur somehow.
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>>160143023
Swords don't work by spinning.
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>>160143073
>its noted in FSF that the sword was still stronger during life
You're fucking retarded because Gilgamesh goes beyond what his power in life in CCC, if you played it you would know he has no limitations. That's why EMIYA is also more powerful. As is Nero.
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>>160143079
I wonder is Caladbolg can actually spin around like drill
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>>160143079
Of course they do
>>160143073
I know galaxy buster is just a meme, I haven't seen it lately so I decided to mention it. Babylon can't come soon enough
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>>160143079
Tell that to Fergus.
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>redditskander doing his meme noises in Extella
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>>160143073
Spears are cooler weapons anyway. Post spears.
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>>160143073
>comparing Ataraxia to CCC
>thinking Enkidu is even talking about CCC which happens in the future

What the fuck anon. Gilgamesh in CCC isn't even constrained by a Class and unlocks Zero Model which makes him far greater than he was in life.
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>>160142717

>Galaxy buster

Fuck off Gilfag
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So it's safe to say if Bryn ever comes back she will probably do it in the same gacha as Sigurd. But when the fuck is the faggot going to appear? I don't think he would have much to do with Babylon and I'm sure a newcomer male wouldn't get an special gacha just for him. Are there other servants that would make sense for him to share a gacha with?
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Gil confirmed he can't do anything against the ayyliens. So EXcalibur > Ea.
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>>160142972

>In his dreams
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>american hour threads
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>>160143389
Why would an aaaaaylien sword work against ayyyyyliens?
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>>160143263
My boy
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>>160143389
Well of course he can't.
Aliens come from far away so they already know that spinning is a good trick and are thus immune to Ea.
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>Tsukumo finally rolled Arturia
Can't wait for his next comic

>Nasu still hasn't picked him up as a artist.
His Saber watching UBW was perfect.
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>need gold cards to level servants
>also badly need 100~ mana prisms a day if I want to finish lunctime
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>>160143463
Everyone knows that a nice spear or polearm is a much better weapon than a sword.
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>odin can't be summoned
>we will never see gungnir in fate
>I will never see how it compares to gay bulge so redman's remark about it could finally stop triggering me
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>>160143572
t. filthy peasant
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Tamamo Amaterasu >>>> Excalibur and EA
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>>160143073

EA isn't a sword. Shirou proves this.
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>>160143521
>Fate/Grand Order公式アンソロなど色々参加しております
He's in a official anthology. I don't remember which one.
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>>160143498
Gave me a good kek m8
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>>160143353
Could be a New Year's thing, like Karna and Arjuna. I kinda doubt that will happen, though. He'll probably show up either in an event or in an order scheduled next year.
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>>160143353
>>160143353
>I'm sure a newcomer male wouldn't get an special gacha just for him
>What is Dantes
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>>160143626
Mashu with unbreakable determination>>>>>>>>>>>>Everything

Lord Camelot
GG
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>>160142362
>Shot from behind
>she considers the god of war to be the only challenge she had and the strongest opponent

World saving mode Excalibur Not that impressive honestly
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>>160143773
Too bad she died.
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Post tfw you realize your great grandsons might be able to finally see a Gandalf servant when Tolkien's stuff becomes public domain
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>>160143572
>he can't afford a sword
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>>160143596
He and other Divine Spirits can be summoned if they want to be, same as any regular Heroic Spirit.
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>>160143791
>King Arthur was revered as a god of war on the battlefield
Nasu playing 4d chess
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>>160143746
Oh yeah forgot about him, but he had some foreshadowing and was the first avenger so he had that going for him. But I admit it's not impossible, but still highly unlikely
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Do you have work tomorrow /fgog/ or are you a neet
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>>160143819
>We will never hear LOORDOO CAMELOTOO!! again

Fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5aFt8GtlDA
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>>160143626
>Tamamo Amaterasu
couldn't do shit against ayyliens
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>>160143934
I study only
>>160143924
Don't get my hopes up
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>>160143972
She is comfirmed to have superior powerlevel to Sefar.

Nipwank >>>> Aliens
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>>160143791
Artoria is literally called the god of war in FSN.

Really makes you think.
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>>160143623
>>160143854
Enjoy not being able to touch me while you get impaled.
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>>160144074
We already know its not her
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>>160144058
Sefar is weaker than Vebner 02. She couldn't do shit 14k years ago and she was around.
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>>160142632

Chen Gong when? Already has a fate design.
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Why is assassin the only class that doesn't end with ER? Is it because they were originally not really heroic spirits or is it because Nasu thought murderer or killer would be too much even for his standards?
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>>160144075
Enjoy getting trampled by my war horse, serf.
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>>160144179
According to who? Anyway, being one shot so easily isn't a battle, it's a one sided slaughter.
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>>160144202
Chen Gong? More like Chen Whong am I right?
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>>160142775

Sorry, wrong picture.
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>>160144075
>he can't shoot swords from a bow.
seriously though, I prefer archery.
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Is there anyone in Chaldea that can outwaifu EMIYA?
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>>160144058
Why she got her ass kicked 14,000 years ago, huh?
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>>160144243
You know how words have different origins and sometimes you don't need a word for something if you borrow it from another language
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>>160143791
>shot from behind

nigga are you blind?
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>>160143931
Kintoki also have his own gacha
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Saberfaces are confirmed as the most beautiful of all women as Nero embodies love and beauty by appearance which dazzles Altera. How can non Saberfaces compete?
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>>160144364
Can Shirou shoot himself from a bow since he is a sword?
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>>160143596
Thor is a confirmed Berserker servant, so seeing Odin as a servant doesn't seem implausible.
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We lads
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>>160144262
Knights used polearms as well. They're the weapon of choice for footsoldiers and lances were great for horsemen.
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>>160144625
And to think that Nero is the ugliest saberface of all. Just imagine if Altera had met the prettiest
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>>160143934
I'm at work right now.
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>>160144625
umu

>>160144745
I wish my work didn't monitor our screens 24/7 and have a no phones out policy, I can only shitpost on break or lunch
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>>160144654
>prisma shit
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>>160144364
>Archer
>fights with swords
This is why we need Arash.
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>>160142362
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>>160144743
Saber Lily?
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>>160144743
Bedivere?
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>>160142362
I've noticed people spouting bullshit about Extella/Zero's "canon" in the past day or so and just want to point out something from Nasu's blog

※基本的にすべてショート版にしているので、必要な要素だけを取り上げるように。贅肉部分は残念ながらカット。
※とはいえ、これはあくまで「ネロルートだった場合」の再構成。「玉藻の前ルートだった場合」と「無銘ルートだった場合」は細部が異なる。たとえば玉藻ルートの場合、「中枢への路」でのイベントがまったく逆になる。

He only wrote out the Nero version, but there are multiple routes in Extella/Zero, of course with different versions of events. There's a Tamamo route where Tamamo knocks Nero to the dark side of Mooncell instead.
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Who is the most loyal servant?
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>>160145003
You got it my man
>>160145006
He is the prettiest saberface(male)
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>>160145009

What about Altera's?
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>>160145009
Doesn't matter because Extella follows Nero's version.
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>>160145063
Gawain
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>>160145063
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So now that we know what happens in Extella, post-Solomon F/GO's plot is basically confirmed right
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>>160144723
While its nice you rolled 2 5*s, don't fucking roll the bait gacha
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>>160145123
There's presumably a Hakunon version where the roles are reversed, hence Hakunon getting Nero and Tamamo in Extella when you choose her. So hurrr hakunon not canon faggots can fuck off.
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>>160145241
It's not bait if you get something good
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>>160145063
Loyal to dick
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>>160145009
that sounds like damage control from tamamofag raging to be honest
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>>160145063

Arturia. She can even fuck you if you are as autistic as she is and if you have an obsession for swords.
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>>160143823
>my great grandsons

My lineage will die with me, I'm to ugly and fat to find a female that will reproduce with me
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>>160144302
She beat the god of war who was a real God and took their sword and shoting someone from behind with a attack designed to kill them isn't very amazing
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>>160145324
I believe in you! You can do it anon. Assuming you would want to have sex with disgusting 3d pigs
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>>160145307
>Arturia
Did you forget the end where she thought about the Grail for a split second resulting in Shirou's death?
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>>160142362
Who is the blue guy?
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>>160145370
>behind
what did he mean by this?
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>>160144302
According to how she KILLED THE GOD OF WAR AND TOOK HIS SWORD YOU FUCKING RETARD
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>>160144625
>Saberfaces are confirmed as the most beautiful of all women
This has been canon for years not even shitposting
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>>160145063
S U M A N A I
U
M
A
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A
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>>160145425
The ending where they tell you that it's OOC shit
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>>160145425

You have to be actively trying to get that bad ending.
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>>160145473
Maybe I'm wrong looks like behind to me
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>>160145063
SLEEP IN EMPTINESS, CROOKED CLOWN!
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>>160145568
>mfw got it on accident
>illya and taiga kept talking about how I tried to get that ending
Does that make me really dumb or a secret genius?
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>>160145568
>>160145534
it's still a potential outcome
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>Babylon is actually going to be a challenge

Are you guys excited?
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>farm for void dust in Charlotte twenty times
>no dust
>go to the Secret Path in Camelot and farm 5 times
>dust every time
Why is Charlotte supposed to be dust central again? I've gotten better luck in Camelot than America.
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>>160145695
Yes
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>>160145712
I really don't want it to be that hard since it would force me to use good ces and party formations when I just want to use my bond team since new story quests give so much bond
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>>160145702

Yes, in a world where Shirou was being actively more autistic than usual

>>160145695

Really dumb
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>>160145712
>Babylon is actually going to be a challenge
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What servant would like ASMR?
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>>160144641
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>>160145732
People here are dumb. The bond farming spot the Japanese use is different from the one people here recommend too.
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>>160146025
Is UBW actually full of Shirous since he is a sword? Can those Shirous trace more Shirous to shoot at the enemies? Can those traced Shirous use UBW to shoot more Shirous that trace more Shirous?
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Weren't we supposed to get a servant reveal in a magazine sometime around now? Whatever happened to that?
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>>160145712
no
because there will be some nice servant stuck behind it that I will never roll for because
>rolling story gacha

fuck story unlocks
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>>160146119
The article was about Extra Vlad and Cleo so nobody gave a fuck.
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post yfw this plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cS4XmeriYg
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Is this okay?
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>>160146065
do the nips farm the 2 battle node
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>>160137883
Muchas gracias

>>160126525
I'd consider that to be more for a Rider Washington, this one's an Archer.
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>>160145009
>Extella/Zero
? someone explain me pls.
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>>160146321
Yeah.
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>>160146226
No.
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>>160143934
I do work, but I'm not scheduled to come in tomorrow.
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>>160146327
Will there be H scenes in your fanfic, fanficfag?
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>>160146396
nasu's blog
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>>160146226
>Yuri
Yes

>Boudica not trying to murder Nero
No
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Why haven't the scottish gotten any servants yet?
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>>160146226
not sure if boudica or li shunwen
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>>160146601
Scathach technically since the Land of Shadows is in Scotland.
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>>160146459
No explicit H because I don't think I would be very good at it.

But yes, there are going to be adult things. Sex, drugs, rock and roll and depending on your definition, one case of NTR
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>>160146601
scat is scottish iirc
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>>160146670
No self-respecting martial artist would wear dangly earrings, which ought to tell you something.
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>>160146601
Scathach
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>>160146708
Oh boy, you are great m8 great, best of luck
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>>160142573
>Gram is equal
Merodach > Gram and Merodach is confirmed weaker than Excalibur
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>>160146601
William Wallace with a zweihander when? I know he didn't have one but fuck off rule of cool.
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I dreamt of Cu fucking Scat in front of me and laughing while I was powerless in the corner like a cuck
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>>160146692
It was a little bit funny when the tropical island in the swimsuit event turned out to just be a piece of the island of Skye.
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>>160147008
Should have fought him m8. Even if you'd lose, the attempt of trying would make them both respect you.
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>>160147008
Anon if you can't even not be a cuck in your dreams what the fuck are you doing
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Fate Civilization game when?
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Are there golden apples from clearing christmas 2015 quests? I see there's only 2 in each gacha box
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>>160147274
Yes, there are a couple from clearing quests.
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>>160147221
Soon since Nasu is pretty much a sjw already
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>>160142362
What's going on in this scene?
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>>160147274
10. 2 per roulette for the first five clears.
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>>160147008
I dreamt of Hans being some weird super warrior who looked nothing like Hans who was my buddy and we conquered half the world but he died, then flash forward as I'm looking at Hans while playing fgo and say welcome back buddy.

I think my dream is better than your dream, even if it made no sense.
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>it's been months since FGO gave relevant powerlevel information
>months of consecutive bait gachas
>no good events
>still no Sigurd for information about Gram and if it can match Photon Ray/Excalibur/Arondight or if it falls in the cuck rank among Galatine/Caliburn/Balmung
>still no CMs at all to know what the fuck Beowulf swords do
>fucking Extella is more relevant than FGO at this point
No wonder I haven't logged in weeks. At least we got Teardrop from Extella and confirmation that Gilgamesh is a weakling again (Saber > gods and Gilgamesh can't even match Amatetasu).
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>>160147342
Selfar being one-shotted by Arturia
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>>160147334
Why do the animations look so bad in Civi VI
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>>160147334
The pic is kinda retarded since there was powerful queens too back then but holy shit the producer does look like a fucking sjw hardcore feminist
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>>160145262
It's already said Hakunon's Servant is EMIYA and he comes from a dimension they won the Grail War.

Nero and Tamamo with Hakuno and EMIYA with Hakunon has been canon since Blossom Sensei special.
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>>160142362
In your rush to make a new meme edition xDD thread you forgot to link to the old one.

>>160111458
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>>160147578
They don't. The animations in VI are very well done.
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Would you rather?
Wear Li Shuwen's outfit or wear Maeve's fluffy coat?
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/icons/servant_card/0991.jpg
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>>160147425
We already know that mary sue artoria is the strongest. If you had to wait til now for this then you are way behind everyone
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>>160145370
>and shoting someone from behind with a attack designed to kill them isn't very amazing
It wasn't behind their back. I'm sorry Altera is shit and inferior to Saberfaces.
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>>160147764
I'd rather not have him at all.
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Why do all these nobodies from the Far East keep showing up in all the Western orders?
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>>160147680
And if you choose Hakunon in Extella then it's Hakunon with Nero and Tamamo and Hakuno who got nameless shitter.
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I didn't dream of anything because my nights are always void of any dreams much like my life
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I want to hold pinkies with my waifu!
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So is artoria back to being the op saber again?
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>retards actually thinking the holy sword user is Artoria

It's a new saberface who turns out to be artoria's previous life you silly niggers
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>>160147954
No. Of the ones we've seen so far, Saber Venus > Saber Mars > all other Sabers.
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>>160147852
>preffering shitty cunts like Nero and Tamamo to a Servant who is willing to die and fight for you even if his body is degrading.

Anon what?
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>>160143791
>she considers the god of war to be the only challenge she had and the strongest opponent
That's because she hasn't fought Lancelot yet. And Altera got BTFO by Saber Alter in FGO.
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>>160147954
Yes. Excalibur is single handily the best weapon in Type Moon.

>>160148040
top kek

Keep telling yourself that. You know Grand Saber > all, right?
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Remove one servant from Fate/GO and add another. They don't have to be the same class. Who are your choices?
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what if EMIYA Alter is the degraded version from the Extella Zero shit
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>>160148148
Remove EMIYA add Saber Lion
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>>160145009
>There's a Tamamo route where Tamamo knocks Nero to the dark side of Mooncell
what?

explain that shit asap
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>>160147771
>We already know that mary sue artoria is the strongest
But she could not win. Facing that man, that sword, there was no way to obtain victory.
'Arondight • The Indestructible Light of the Lake’—the counterpart to King Arthur’s ‘Sword of Promised Victory’, the most precious of swords that had been obtained by men from the fairy lands.
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>>160148151
Those aren't Altered Servants. It's when the Servants get those pixels before they die, that's what they meant.
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>>160148148
Remove Arturia pendragon
Add Roland
All Saberfaces now have original designs
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>>160148148
Remove DaVinci add Medb Lily
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I can't wait for extella
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You know that FGO is going to BTFO Extella wank with new powerlevels, right? Nasu said FGO was going to be the craziest most world building in Type Moon universe entry of anything he wrote.

>>160148040
And this is for you. Saber Venus is going to be some gacha addition which is much weaker than Grand Saber (Artoria, who else).
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>>160148215
All Nasu says on the blog is "this is the events in the Nero route, there are other routes with different events, for example this" and that's it.
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>>160148215
In the backstory from Extella Tamamo is another master's servant who is an asshole

Hakuno beats them and some shit happens that allows Hakuno to get her as his servant as well

Then on the way too the moon cell core Tamamo pretends to be fake dying to get pity love from Hakuno so Nero kicks her off the bridge

The reverse happens in an alternate route, at least t.Nasu but since that wasn't on his blog originally it might just be damage control to appease Tamamofags
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I wonder if Lev knew about Sefar and the Velber threat when he summoned Altera. He did say she was the strongest servant he could think of, which would seem ridiculous if he only thought she was just Attila the Hun as history remembers the guy. But if he knew about Giant God Altera, Sefar, and Velber-02, it makes a lot of sense. But then there's the question of how he could have known about any of this.
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>>160147954
Still weaker than Lancelot who can Excaliblast x Teardrop with KoH.
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>>160148389
>but since that wasn't on his blog originally it might just be damage control to appease Tamamofags
It was probably this. They really fucked up because Nero is currently hotly bashed in 2ch. Whatever Extella did, it did the opposite to her popularity.
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>>160148389
>The reverse happens in an alternate route, at least t.Nasu but since that wasn't on his blog originally it might just be damage control to appease Tamamofags
It was there all along, you can see posts on 2chan referencing it way before the whole "Nasu spoiled the anime" thing even happened.

The shitters doing "translations" just ignored it.
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>>160148384
We already know that Solomon is weaker than Sefar so I doubt it
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CCC fox tail is canon in the extraverse?
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>>160148351
> spoiler
We're summoning an egg cell?
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>>160148248
>Facing that man, that sword, there was no way to obtain victory.
>because Jobber Arturia knows Kekacock is so shit Kekacock will kill himself unlike TRISTAN & thus Jobber Arturia won't obtain victory because opponent will sudoku before she can win
>'A Round Dick • The Bent Black Cock’—the counterpart to Jobber Arthur’s ‘Cock of Merlin’, the most shit of swords can't beat Mashu's D shield when Overload
>Mashu's D > Kekacock's bentness
WEW
E

Maybe your meme servant should have chosed a bow that can't fail like someone BEYOND SOLOMON LEVEL ;)
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>>160148143
>>160148384
Take a guess at what "Of the ones we've seen so far" was supposed to mean.
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>>160148389
The bit about Tamamo route being different from Nero route was on the blog originally. However it doesn't just say that the only difference is this one thing. It just basically said that there are different stories, but this is Nero's story.

>>160148497
They didn't learn shit from Rome. Wank has the opposite effect. At least you can root for Tamamo since she was shit on a lot.
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>>160148497
It was there all along, and people were using it as fuel to complain about Nero even.
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>>160148568
He's already been blown the fuck out. There's no meaning in kicking him while he writhes in pain on the ground like this.
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>>160148148
Remove Artoria Lily add Richard I
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>>160148410
>has a grail
>still beaten by underleveled np1 Mashu

BASED.

Remember enemies and Servants get stronger and stronger in the Order progress. The Lion King isn't cowed by the giant and realistic illusion cooked by Nitocris. So it means that she's pretty behind power levels in FGO giant powerlevel wankfest.
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>>160148597
>Wank has the opposite effect
They love Arturia don't give me that dogshit

Let's be fucking honest if anything the reason 2ch hates Nero so much is because their idealized Japanese waifubait is taking backseat to the Western waifubait
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>Saber Lancelot is so ugly that Shimadrill saw fit to defend himself on Twitter saying "I wanted to give him long hair, he's ugly because Nasu told me to give him this ugly hairstyle"
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>>160148148
Remove Gilgamesh and add Prelati.
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>>160148568
>Maybe your meme servant should have chosed a bow that can't fail
Fail Not couldn't beat Mashu's D shield and got killed by Hassan, the same Hassan that got wrecked by Memedusa :^)
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>>160148715

Will Shima drill do my waifu justice?
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>>160148710
Nero is western waifubait?
Nero is fucking shit don't give me that speech
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>>160148518
>We already know that Solomon is weaker than Sefar so I doubt it
According to who? You? Sefar hasn't done shit aside of jobbing badly and being defeated like the savant idiot she is. Solomon is a legitimate threat who actually destroyed shit and has had everyone in every timeline arms up against him.

Lion King isn't afraid of "Sefar" earth equivalent in Camelot, by the way, which indicates she's weaker in the big leagues introduced in FGO.
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>>160148715
Has Jormundgur's mangaka spoken about the harlequin baby that is Florence?
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>>160148559
Learn how routes work. Multiverse and shit

Nasu helped write it, and they released this chart for how it works. But really its nothing we didn't know.
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>>160148869
Divine Spirits were weaker than Sefar. The only one that was considered strong was the God of War and she shit on them.

Solomon gets his fucking power and reputation from a Divine Spirit so by association there's no way he's fucking stronger than Sefar
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>>160148568
Lancelot didn't use Overload against Mashu. He wasn't even trying according to Sanzou.
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>>160148410
>He did say she was the strongest servant he could think of
Specifically to use against Roman Servants which Altera has some kind of conceptual advantage as Attila.
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>>160148869
Solomon is weaker than God who is weaker than Sefar
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>>160149039
Any servant in Extella > Sefar
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>>160148936
>Divine Spirits were weaker than Sefar.
The shit ones maybe. Saver rules a fucking Solar System, what has Sefar done? Failed to destroy Earth?
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>>160148102
>hadn't fought Kekacock yet
>>160148412
>weaker than Kekacock who can't even kill King of Jobbers
WEW
E
W

Even Gilgameme killed Hassan, Kekacock only killed himself ;)
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>>160148710
Arturia never had her flaws negated by wank and, when she's wanked, they don't do it at expense of shitting on other characters/heroines, or to hijack everyone's stories by praising her when she was a corrupted fat neckbeard in life. There's a limit of suspension of belief you'll reach. King Arthur being praised isn't the same as fucking Emperor Nero, least noteworthy of his dynasty, getting praised. If it had been Augustus, it would have been different.

Nero was a mistake overall.
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>>160148801
He's already been blown the fuck out. There's no meaning in kicking him while he writhes in pain on the ground like this.
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>>160149168
>Arturia never had her flaws negated by wank
>She was so perfect she couldn't understand anyone but she was still great because it was everyone else's fault she was literally too perfect to even relate to the people she ruled over
>Also everyone agreed with her retarded decisions
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>>160149039
>God
>weaker than Shitfar

Alterafag Please. She's pathetic.

>>160148936
That was 14,000 years ago. Lion King doesn't see her as a big deal and she knows who she is in Camelot.

Feats > hearsay

Solomon has actually ended the world and timelines. Sefar jobbed against Nero and didn't do anything. Same Nero who lost badly against Alter Cu with just one of Solomon's Grails.
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>>160149138
Sefar shit on the oldest Divine Spirits who are the strongest ones

We already know from Nasu that Divine Spirits >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Servants so there's no way Solomon is even a minuscule threat compared to Sefar
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>>160148801
>Fail Not cannot fail
>Tristan personality switchd
>normal man wants to win
>Tristan switched wants to lose
>Tristan wanted to lose
WEW
E
W

Now you know Tristan is so BEYOND SOLOMON LEVEL that he wants to lose yet wins Kekacock sucker ;)
>>160148938
>Kekacock wasn't trying meme
>Gilgameme wasn't trying against Shirou
KEK
E
K

We only know Tristan isn't trying because personality swap makes him not try when others try.
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Could IanceIot even survive a Gae Bolg?
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>>160149157
>can't even kill King of Jobbers
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Crest of the Wandering Star

Exclusive skill of Attilaight Cell.

The ability to turn into a giant god in order to destroy civilization. The fundamental design of Titan Altera.

With this passive skill, the lives, structures, and concepts she destroys are absorbed as spiritron information and she increases in size. Altera cannot by her own will remove this skill.

By absorbing an amount of mana equal to her current HP amount, her maximum HP doubles.

Further, due to her modifier as the Titan, whenever her structure reaches a size double to the previous (16M, 32M, 64M, 128M, 256M, 512M, 1024M) she will advance to the next stage, and all of her parameters are increased by 1 digit.

For example, if STR A is equal to a value of 150, and a + doubles that to 300, then with the Titan modifier, what is 300 at first stage, becomes 3,000 at second stage; 30,000 at third stage; and so on, becoming 300,000,000 at her seventh stage.

This approaches the Gold-Fur White-Face in her nine-tailed form (387,420,489) - an amount of energy on the level of a star.

Give her time and enough stuff to consume, Giant Altera can reach and surpass Amaterasu levels of power, but if you catch her when she's in one of her earlier forms it's possible to defeat her.
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>>160149250
>Also everyone agreed with her retarded decisions
>Gilgamesh and Iskander spend an entire night shitting on all of her decisons
>Half the Round Table rebel and give her shit for her retarded decisions
>FSN opens with the idea that she wants to wipe herself out of existence for her retarded decisions and this plan of action is, in and of itself, also treated as a retarded decision.
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>>160149392
>Sefar can reach Amaterasu levels of Power
>Solomonfags will try and say he's on that level
LMAO
M
A
O

Sefar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solomon
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>>160148838

Most westerners love Nero, anon.

>>160149356

A Grand Servant killed Sefar
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>>160149436
She's perfect and all her choices are perfect

So you're wrong
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Why am I coming to this shithole again?
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>>160148936
Tamamo says her true self (Amaterasu) is on par to the threat they are fighting (Solomon). And Sefar is weaker than Amaterasu.

Grand Servants > ayy aliens.

Didn't she eat a Excaliblast pathetically already Fuck yeah, humanity!
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>>160148559
Gozen when
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I need images. Images of best girl.
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>>160149495
>>160149514
>A grand servant killed Sefar
It goes without saying that Arturia is above Solomon

Don't try and equate the only powerful Grand Serant with the shitty Caster or Assassin one.

Saber is the strongest and Caster and Assassin are shit just like in an actual Grail War
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>>160149250

The thing is that what happened to her kingdom was partly her fault but not only her fault.
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>>160149359
>Fail Not cannot fail
>failed against a D shield
>failed against a Hassan
>Tristan was such a shit the Lion King had to switch his personality because he wanted to lose and die
>still failed anyways
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>actually thinking Sefar is a big deal when Artoria laughed it off in Camelot while Solomon is a big deal

It's like you don't know Nasu, he'll introduced to a great threat that existed 100k years ago which Grand Servants are fighting or something.
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>>160149569
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>>160149569
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>>160149614
If Sefar isn't a big deal then all divine spirts are by association not a big deal at all because they got their asses whooped by it

Which means Gilgamesh is fucking meme joke character tier since he has 0 chance against Amaterasu and everyone beneath him basically doesn't exist
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>>160149597
Nope, she was perfect, so it can't be her fault.
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>>160149646
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So has Nasu remembered that Notes existed? I stopped playing GO a long time ago
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>>160149495
No only a few.
Most don't care or don't like
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>>160149502

>It is as I say because I'm saying
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>>160149584
Nah. All Grand Servants > Ayy liens

You still don't get it. Tamamo compared her true Strength as Amaterasu as being Solomon level. Sefar is weaker than Amaterasu. Grand Servants are going to be hilariously wanked, you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you think Sefar is a big deal.

Nasu stated FGO will have the core of the multiverse writing. Extella is just a sidestory in the franchise, not even the main Extra-CCC continuation. He'll powercreep the creatures that appear here.
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>>160149356
>who are the strongest ones
None of those are stronger than YHVH.

>We already know from Nasu that Divine Spirits >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Servants
Yet Saber, a Servant, beat Sefar who beat the weak old gods. And Saber at the peak of her power was scared of Solomon.
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Nasu really fucked up by making Sefar >>>>>> Gods

Why couldn't just have said something like Sefar causes Gaia to summon shit to help the Gods and arturia got the kill shot or something

instead we get Sefar shitting on the Gods so now we have to deal with shitposters saying Arturia is above Gods
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>>160149436
You forgot the part where Gilgamesh shits on Iskander with his own argument.
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>>160149718

People outside the angry neckbeards of 4chan love Nero, anon.
She is a waifu.
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>>160149646
>>160149689
Astolfo doujin when?
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>>160149379
>Alcohol Poisoning is Kekacock
WEW
E
W

I bet King of Jobbers killed Herakek because Herakek was drunk ;)
>>160149436
>King of Jobbers, Iskeker and Jobber Arturia
>Mattering
>>160149606
>Tristan wanted to fail
>Tristan success = Arrows missing
>BEYOND SOLOMON LEVEL Tristan is so strong Jobber Arturia wanted to swap personality so Tristan stops winning took much
KEK
E
K

Enjoy sucking Kekacock :)
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>>160149815
at least we can push arturia > keksalot now.
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>>160149685

Read the VN and see this >>160149721
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>>160149714
The Velber are an ancient alien species that come every 14,000 years and try to wipe out sentient life everywhere. They take the form of a comet, and they spawn their seeds on planets.

14,000 years ago a Velber seed managed to wipe out 80% of Earth, but was stopped by a holy sword user. They're an alien species that border on being hopeless for Earth to stop. However they were still stopped once so far.

Its not the same as NOTES aliens, but close.
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Rock, scissors, paper, you stupid fucks. Grand Servants beat Ayyliens who beat Gods who beat Grand Servants.
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>>160149815
>Why couldn't just have said something like Sefar causes Gaia to summon shit to help the Gods and arturia got the kill shot or something
He did. The holy sword user just stuck out to Altera. She probably found it utsukushi
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Why is Melvin replying to himself again?
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>>160149827
No sorry, this may be true when the anime comes out but otherwise people don't like nero since to know her well you have to not be a secondary therefore you know how shit she is.
Saberfacefags like artoria not nero
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>>160149823

Gilgamesh is a retarded piece of crap

Fuck him for killing my bro
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>>160149940
>14,000 years ago a Velber seed managed to wipe out 80% of Earth
This is wrong. They wiped out 80% of Mooncell according to the material, not Earth. In Earth, they were stopped earlier.
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>>160149761
>Grand Servants are going to be hilariously wanked
Grand Servants can't hurt Sefar, she is immune to combat and death. Unless your name is Arturia you lose.

>>160149775
>YHVH
Has never even appeared in Fate and never will, and even if he did he's already confirmed as weaker than the God of War Altera shit on because she doesn't even remember them as being notable

>>160149941
If Nasu didn't say it then it's just your headcanon.

Right now we only have Arturia > Sefar >>>> Everything

Gods aren't > anything at this point because they have lost against the only enemy they've ever been presented with spectacularly.

>>160149973
The Gods did not do anything against Altera aside from get shit on. She was literally immune to anything they could do and just got killed by her until Arturia stopped it.
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>>160149392
>an amount of energy on the level of a star
So star busting is enough to defeat Amaterasu? Lancelot got this.
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>>160149646
>>160149689
I want to fuck his la boypucelle
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>>160149940
Also a Velber looks something like this
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>>160149569
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>>160149940
>They take the form of a comet, and they spawn their seeds on planets.
Sounds a bit like type Venus. Fucking sweet
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>>160150038
No, there were others with the holy sword user. You know like there are 7 normal classes in total.
>>
This Alien shit was a mistake. It was bad enough in Notes. Now it feels that TYPES have been retooled to have shitty bosses that Servants can dick around and fuck.
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>>160149985
One shitposter is easily ignored, Melvin gets around this by pretending to be several shitposters in the hopes of getting more people to join in.

Or other people are mimicking Melvin's way of shitposting right back at him so that they can annoy people too. I don't fucking know.
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>>160150030

Try getting out of /fgog/ sometimes alright?

She isn't even hated in Japan as you're pushing
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>>160150036
Okay, good thing we cleared that up.
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>>160150038
>he's already confirmed as weaker than the God of War Altera shit on
Cite it. YHVH is one of the gods that gained power with the Age of Man.
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>>160149941
And then there's a guy who bring a gun to RPS.
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>>160150123
If they weren't memorable to Altera they probably didn't do shit. We already have it on record that Selfar is immune to combat damage and death, other Grand servants aren't going to do shit

>>160150162
Name one person YHVH ever beat in Fate, oh right you can't. The only thing on his resume is getting ass whooped by Selfar
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Is Fate turning into DBZ?
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>>160149569
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>>160150038
>Grand Servants can't hurt Sefar, she is immune to combat and death
If he wanted to, Solomon can travel back in time before the seed is formed and toss it to the sun, destroying the existence of Sefar in any dimension because he can affect all timelines.

You're selling short a character who also cannot be killed. And did you forget he can drain all the mana of the world? Leaving Sefar with nothing to feed on and grow.

We don't know how she'll fare against Assassin either.
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>>160150046
>Kekacock not even enough to bust Mashu D
>Cannot beat the D
>Mashu's Big, Hard D > Kekacock
WEW
E
W

Kekacock can't even bust Mashu's D. How can he bust anything?
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>>160150147
>try getting out of 4ch and going to reddit like me alright?
Kek'd

Also never said that she is hated but unpure slut are not liked much more than waifubait mary sue like saber
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>>160150038

Altera says she was stopped by a group of people, among those there was a holy sword user

You're also being retarded about power levels for the purpose of shitposting
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>>160150229
But he can't do shit to servants.
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>>160150273
Gotta get in as much shitposting as possible while full details are unavailable.
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>>160150285
Impeccable taste.
>>
Solomon was a mistake.
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>>160150065
That's just on mooncell.
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>>160150038
>Unless your name is Arturia you lose.
>Right now we only have Arturia > Sefar >>>> Everything
Lancelot can KoH Excalibur and use it combined with any other NP he wants. EXcalibur + Excalibur? Lancelot can do it. Therefore Lancelot >>>>>>>> Arturia > Sefar.
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>>160150146
Suddenly I wonder how the Jetsfags, original, Jr, lawyer, etc would react to them spawning Melvin. I'd be ashamed if I were them.
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>>160150293
>We don't know how she'll fare against Assassin either.
We already know that she's immune to death and that he can't finish anything he starts anyway, what the fuck is he going to be good for you autist?

>>160150321
>Stopped by a group of people
Yeah like how if I get into a fight with 6 toddlers and a Heavyweight Boxer the only person worth remembering is the Boxer and not the other 6 shitters who would contribute nothing to the effort
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>>160150038
Most of what you said is false or not comfirmed.

Fuck off.
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How strong is God of War when Fionn defeated a God of War himself?Not to mention another Divine Spirit,Aillen?
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>>160150461
dude cuck
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>>160150445
Cite what I said was false or unconfirmed, one single thing retard

All the shit about Sefar being immune to death and combat and shitting on every God is straight out of Tamamo's dialogue with Hakuno
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>>160150307

>Bringing reddit in the conversation

That's how I know you're shitposting

>Purity matters

Explain Tamamo's popularity then
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>>160150242
>Name one person YHVH ever beat in Fate
Heracles.
>getting ass whooped by Selfar
Cite it.
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>>160150321
>Altera says she was stopped by a group of people, among those there was a holy sword user

Yeah, probably Grand Servants. Solomon said they were originally formed to stop a monster created by civilization to destroy civilization. Artoria one shot her and called it a day. Grands > GODS confirmed. KEK.

Anyway, whichever threat they are fighting now, it's worse than shitty Sefar.
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>>160150323
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>>160150273
Given how hard they fucked up the last Super EP, maybe.
>>160150294
>Mashu's Big, Hard D
Why do I have an image of my head of Mashu with a penis?
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>>160150580
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>>160150437

We don't know if they didn't help
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>>160150580
>fanmade doujin
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>>160150580
>posting literal fan fiction
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>>160150547
The only God that Altera remembers was the God of War because they were the only strong one

Tamamo says that all the other Gods got their asses handed to them and didn't do fuck all

>>160150547
>Heracles
Wow I guess YHVH is on Caliburn level way to fucking go
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>>160150608
>le reddit servant
Cringe.
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>>160150513
Fuck off Diarmuid
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>>160150608
>>160150653
>>160150664
>d-doesn't count
Now this is epic.
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>>160150676
>le reddit user

cringe
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Arturia never kicked Rin out of a bridge to her certain death because she was jealous. Thinking purity is the factor that is making Nero unpopular right now is retarded. She was popular in the original Extra when she was a slut but a likable one.
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>>160150648
They literally can't help because Sefar is immune to combat and death. The only thing that Sefar loses to is Arturia, her power level is above everything else.

What part of the other Grand Servants literally wouldn't contribute fuck all is hard for you to understand
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>>160150416
>Kekacock failed to KoH Jobber Arturia's Invisible Air fast enough
>can KoH anything else
JUST
U
S
T

Maybe he can KoH himself ;)
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>>160150425
>Suddenly I wonder how the Jetsfags, original, Jr, lawyer, etc would react to them spawning Melvin
Here is the trick, "those" are all me, the same person. You just kept deluding yourself just like you are right now talking about "derp he reply to himself XD".

You have given me so many different names over time, it's pathetic really.
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>>160150542
>shitposting
I'm just responding to a delusional who thinks that is waifu is loved by the western fanbase when she isnt

>tamamo
Waifubait, nipwank, fox girl
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>>160150774
what if it took all of them to sing a lullaby to make sefar sleepy so the holy sword could seal her away
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>>160150745
Tamamo was an enemy and was literally trying to cuck Hakuno from her by pretending to die, it's perfectly reasonable to assume she was doing something malicious and Tamamo would do the exact same shit back to Nero because she's even more petty.
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>>160150774
>What part of the other Grand Servants literally wouldn't contribute fuck all is hard for you to understand
Well, Solomon needed to get Artoria there, he's the one with time travel powers, anon kun.
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>>160150674
>Tamamo says that all the other Gods got their asses handed to them
That would include Amaterasu who ia confirmed stronger than Sefar. YHVH was not there to face the Sefar.
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>>160150745

The kicking out of a bridge thing was a comical moment, Tamamo was being the nosy slut she usually is and prompted Nero to do that to her.

They also were never friends to begin with so
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>>160150783
Are you the boogeyman?
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>>160150774
You don't even know who the others Grand Servants are and what they can do.

Fuck off with your headcanon,
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>>160150891
>Tamamo was an enemy
So was Rin and Ilya.

>and was literally trying to cuck Hakuno from her by pretending to die

Ilya tried to steal Shirou in Fate route and while Saber was displeased, she didn't cut her down.
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>>160150745

Tamamo would have done the same shit too

Stop trying to push the Nero hate so much
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>>160150906
Amaterasu wasn't there because she was the sun

YHVH would've been there

>>160150903
Gaia doesn't give a fuck and could do that shit on her own

>>160150967
Altera didn't remember them so they clearly aren't fucking important. The only one who did shit was Arturia, it's inherent in the fucking account that she was the only one worth remembering out of the lot of them.
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>>160150607
>Why do I have an image of my head of Mashu with a penis?
I can help with that image
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>>160151019
Altera is autistic and her autism just happens to resonate with Artorias so she's memorable.
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>>160150927
See >>160151002

Artoria is class act while Nero isn't. Tamamo doesn't have her face to measure up to her. Now tits aren't going to get her special treatment when Lancer Artoria and Jeanne exist.
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>>160150774

The war god was able to put up a good fight which implies combat damage
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>>160150783
JETS here, I've been keeping a low profile & abstaining from posting as JETS in any /fgog/ thread for a while, that's some serious bullshit right there.

At least this confirms that you've been replying to yourself both as a cancerous fake jet but also as that Tristanfaggot. It's not normal that both the fake jet melvin & the tristanfag coincidentally show up both at the same time.
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>>160149379
Not canon because Accel Zero gave a Grail :::^^^^))))
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>>160150967
If the other Grand Servants were at all fucking relevant to the fight then they would have been mentioned.

The only important one was Arturia, everyone else did fuck all or else we would've heard about them from Altera

>>160151137
Sefar is confirmed immune to combat damage and death, he probably just died slower than the rest that's all
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>t-the grand servants gang up to fight prime murderfags are getting more and more btfo

Can we agree they fought ayyliens and tell them to fuck off?
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>>160149886
>Tristan received the Gift of "Inversion," for she saw his fingers were completely frozen from despair.
Even when he was forced to want to win, he failed like the trash he is :^)

>Tristan is so strong Jobber Arturia wanted to swap personality so Tristan stops winning took much
>being frozen in despair is winning
WEW
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>>160151019
>other Grands also summoned to fight Sefar with Arthuria

What?
I thought only Arthuria attended the fight?
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>>160150860

>He thinks the western fanbase is only /fgog/
>inb4 reddit

It's not just that either

>Nero

waifu bait, saberface, hot body
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>>160151228
>Can we agree the

no
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what's the difference between sefar and giant altera?
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>>160150783
>>160151169
What is this conspiracy
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>>160149940
>Extella spoiler anon translate the entire plot

>shitposters still post retarded fanfiction
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>>160151115
Artoria's the opposite of autistic. You're mistaking reserved and aloof with autism.
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>>160150964
He's bullshitting you. I've been here, just not posting as JETS. Not everyday is JETS day.
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>>160151280
a group with the holy sword user sticking out to Altera
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>>160151280
Arturia was the only one Altera remembers because she's the only one who did anything
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>>160150376
thanks anon
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Hell, We don't even know if the Holy Sword user 14000 years ago was Arturia.

You guys always jumping to conclusions.
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>>160151284

Fuck off, Nguyen.
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>>160151002

>Rin
>An enemy

Read the VN

Btw Saber wanted to kill Illya at first but she respected Shirou's wishes

Tamamo was actively trying to cuck Nero and was her rival, Nero's Hakuno obviously didn't care very much for her
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>>160151357
Is there any mention of "Sefar fought with Grand Servant" because so far all I heard is "Sefar fought Divine Spirits and later get killed by a holy sword user"
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>>160151440
You could say it's a mysterious hero. An X if you will.
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>>160151280
A group was with the holy sword user. The Holy Sword User one shot Sefar and they all went for some beers or to exchange mana afterwards. It ties in with London backstory about why Grand Servants were originally summoned. This means whatever threat Solomon has seen is worse than Sefar who just needed Artoria while the rest were cheerleading and making bets.
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>>160151412
>ushi
that reminds me, is her 3rd skill worth leveling at all?
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>>160150783
>Assume it must be multiple people because no single person could possibly be this stupid
>"No, it was me all along! You're pathetic!"
I mean, I guess I feel a little pathetic that I'm the same species as somebody as grotesquely unsuccessful as you, yeah.
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>>160151497
>People still shilling the "S-Solomon definitely is doing this because there's a bigger threat" meme
kek
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>>160151318

>Arturia
>Not autistic

Read the VN
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>>160151412
> tfw my friend gave me his account after I got hit by emuban but he burned his silvers and I haven't been able to get an Ushi
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>>160151018
they're both garbage.
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>>160148710
Because King Arthur is supposed to be a grand heroic character, so the only people who constantly complain about King Arthur being portrayed as a very important figure are the usual gaggle who just do it as a knee-jerk reaction since they think it makes them fit in.

Nero was originally portrayed as a well-intentioned fuckup and that was okay. But since then, Sakurai and others have tried to swerve into making her a central heroine whose rule is supposed to be seen as glorious and beautiful. Sakurai REALLY didn't pull that off in Septem and nobody's managed that since then, because at the end of the day Nero is still a bubbly dumbass whose main virtues are being bubbly and cute. The only thing anybody's ever managed to do is have other characters say that her beauty and the splendor around her are overwhelming. Unfortunately, her design is just a copypaste of another character's, who although repeatedly treated as very beautiful, never single-handedly toppled anybody's enmity just by being pretty.

The best example of how clumsy the Nero wanking gets is that scene in Septem where Nero declares fake Roma to be wrong because "nobody's laughing." You never actually talk to the citizens, there's absolutely no exploration of the city involved nor any scene where you see how they live or why they aren't smiling. You just jump in the city, Nero tells you that "nobody is smiling" and that's the end of it. Every time the story tries to build up Nero is through the same trick: they tell but not show some virtue of her she's never demonstrated on page. Deploying theater and shocking Altera into submission is more "tell, not show."

So now they just make her a central character in a space epic while she hogs screentime from the characters she was originally equal to. It worked in EXTRA and CCC because you could just do the other routes, but here they only adapted her story as the main one so she feels just as shoved down your throat as in Septem.
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>>160151514
That's my husbando.
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>>160151169
I doubt anyone was talking about you anyways, you were barely ever relevant. All you provided was the first few posts that said Lancelot was UNRIVALLED.

>At least this confirms that you've been replying to yourself both as a cancerous fake jet but also as that Tristanfaggot.
Except that's you.

>It's not normal that both the fake jet melvin & the tristanfag coincidentally show up both at the same time.
Too bad it's the other way around. Everytime you appear, he does too. Many times I have been here and the Tristan failure (you) is not here. But you don't know thay because you are seeing it from your perspective, the perspective of the culprit itself.

Pic related.
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>>160151494
!?
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>>160151284

>Muh Nnguyen boogeyman

Ebin

>>160151196

>Probably

Nice assumption but it's just an assumption.
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>>160151238
>Kekacock suckers too dumb to think
>Tristan is so brave that Inversion swapped and make him scared

>Tristan wants to lose because he normally wants to win but inversion changed that
>wants to lose
>Victory = Defeat
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>>160151549

This, Nero being the worst doesn't make Tamamo good, it's like saying Nero isn't a whore because Medb is worse.
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>>160151663
You're the one who pulled the headcanon out of his ass that because Altera recognized the God of War as stronger than the other shitters that it means he was able to damage her autismo
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>>160151512
It's not great, but lower cooldown on your defensive skills is always nice.
None of her skills are really great to be honest though, but you should still level them because she's the cutest.
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>>160151446

>Muh Nnguyen boogeyman

Ebin
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>>160151512
only to reduce its cooldown
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I miss the old days when Lancelot was the peak of powerlevels in Nasuverse.

Fuck the Aliens and Grand servants.
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>>160151284
Fuck off /MaL/.
Western fanbase don't give a shit or don't like nero stop shilling your waifu so hard nobody cares.

>waifubait
No
>saberface
This is not a good thing since saber just steal the spotlights
>hot body
Like every female in the nasuverse
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>>160151576
I bet you wouldn't be complaining if it was Tamamo being wanked
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>>160151748
Please do all this is so nostalgic
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>>160151663
>>160151787

Kill yourself, brain damage.
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>>160151816
From which timeline do you come from?
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>>160151898
Fuck off he's cute and always welcomed here. You should leave
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>>160151938

Kill yourself too, retard lover.
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>>160151742

If she recognized he put up a good fight then it means she suffered some kind of blow

The no combat damage shit comes from Tamamo, who overhypes things a lot
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>>160151663
>can't quote right
Ho you're braindamaged retard.
I wasted my time responding to you since you are a dumbass in denial.
Thanks for proving my point then.
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>>160151576
This, but also the fact that Nero is really not good to be a wank target in the first place. Maybe King Arthur, but fucking Nero Augustus beating every hero and being better than people and being a god is stupid. Nero was a decent character in Extra because she was a fuck up but she tried at least, not they ruined the only quality she had. This is not a character who deserves the bump they give her in the first place.

Maybe you already said that, probably better than I could, but I still can't get over it.
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>>160151816
>I miss the old days when Lancelot was the peak of powerlevels in Nasuverse.

He never was. He was only the peak of powerlevel shitposting.
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>>160151280
A group of humans, one of whom used a holy sword, defeated Altera.

Altera does refer to other servants as humans, though (as opposed to space aliens), so it's possible that they were servants.

There is no mention of grand servants or Artoria in Extella's main story at all.
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>>160152031
Tamamo has no reason to overhype shit

And if you're going to use that card then I guess Tamamo saying Solomon is Amaterasu level is also just her bullshitting via overhype
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>>160151628
>Except that's you
So I have a slight agreement with someone, that somebody who's had multiple kids & had sex with multiple men, varying degrees of consensuality, isn't a pure virgin flower & that means I'm the same person? I'm assuming you think I'm the same person as you too.
>Too bad it's the other way around. Everytime you appear, he does too
I've been in these threads for a long time, recently having not as much free time, & this is the first time I've JETSposted in a while. I can't speak for the other guy, who knows what he's like when he's not Tristanfagging, but clearly my filters aren't always filtering.

Besides, why do you have that saved? Do you also have that conversation JETS had with Gawain a while ago on Older women vs younger women?
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>>160151938
You're not welcome though.
Fuck off to discord and reddit.
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>>160151514
>y-you don't agree with me u stupiiiid lmao ;_;
Sorry, but I won't get tired of BTFOing retards like you that confirm time and time again that they don't know shit about Nasuverse. Your headcanon means fucking shit, and I enjoy showing you that every single time while backing it up with citations. Meanwhile here you are, with your best "argument" being "u stupid". Hilarious.

What was that? Achilles is not equal in fame to Heracles? Avalon can't deflect? Arondight has no swordbeam? Caliburn taking 7 lives was a miracle? EA is much stronger than Excalibur? It's so funny how every single time you get obliterated by facts yet you still pretend I'm the one who is wrong.
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>>160151706

Not the point

>>160151836

>Western fanbase don't give a shit
>/fgog/ is the only place that matters!

Autismo
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>>160152106
Does she even know who the sword user is?
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>>160151303
Velber-02 is just the dropship, or shard of Velber, which has both material and cyber manifestations, and Sefar is the cyber life form inside it.

Sefar has the ability to make a physical avatar, with which it attacked Earth before being defeated by the holy sword. The shock from it being destroyed caused the main (cyber) body to freeze a bit allowing Mooncell to seal it away.

Earth Sefar's body turned to dirt. 13000 years later the Huns, following legends of Sefar, found the remnants of the body (now just dirt) and dug up its backup brain, and named it Attila. She didn't like the name, and called herself Altera. She lived and died as a human. She'd also lost most of her memories as Sefar, though not all (she still vaguely remembered the war god, and named her sword after what the Huns told her his name was).

Altera's experiences as a human were also sent back to the cyber (moon) Sefar which saw them as a dream, and influenced it enough to turn it into Altera (Moon Altera/Giant God Altera).
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>>160151576
Pretty much this. When Arturia is 'wanked', they actually show us the world building. They show us being sleepless, working hard for her people before she became a ruler. They show us how she interacts with people and her fears and her insecurities. And her hubris of thinking she could change fate, and be crushed by that tragic decision. They show us Merlin telling her about Excalibur and Rhon, and her thoughts about it, how overwhelming that is.

It's not just "nigga she got a power up". Nasu actually cares to give us her pros and cons of her power. Look at the Lion King as con of going full Rhon. He's not afraid to make her an antagonist either while when was Nero one? She was always perfect and beloved, and good. People are hating on her character because she's a badly written Mary Sue. Calling Arturia one is a joke.
>>
More C91 doujins

https://twitter.com/mcb_9630/status/798002155604975616
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>>160152206

Fuck off to reddit, brain damaged retard.
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>>160148389
She fails the moon cell bug check according to Nasu's blog since she was originally supposed to have been gone and defeated. That's what bars her from the final battle.

Not sure where this "kicked off a bridge" thing comes from.
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>>160151860
At the very least being a "comparatively small time fuckup" is not an inherent part of Tamamo's first appearance. On the contrary, it's shown she is being massively depowered from how she ought to be.

When you have a character who has "really not a grand hero" as a central characteristic and whose feats are the result of being so fucking deluded it warps reality, trying to take a massive narrative swerve to make her Grand Emperor, Savior of the Earth is going to need some mighty fucking delicate maneuvering. They couldn't pull it off.

The revelation that her route was just one of three will logically not help at all with people who liked the other two characters. Even if she's empowered by someone else, having Nero of all people take the role of the savior just doesn't fit her.
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>>160152234
>He's not afraid to make her an antagonist either while when was Nero one?
Babylon
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>>160151628
>Kekacock sucker thinks I suck Kekacock
JUST
U
S
T
>>160152136
>other Kekacock sucker continuing to reply
KEK
E
K
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>>160152246
>lewd saint
If it goes up for sale on Tora or Melon I'll definitely buy and scan it if no one else does.
>>
So with doing EXP 40AP, hunting 40, hunting 30, how many times do I have to run EXP 30 to get 100~ prisms a day? Not burning golds
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>>160152234
>while when was Nero one?
We have all of Romulus' dialogue with her and her second interlude being basically nothing but dialogue of some extreme evil shit living inside of her

>>160152282
Some other anon says that even though she fails the bug check she sticks around, but uses it to get pity love from Hakuno by pretending that she's still going to die.

Then nero kicks her off the bridge to the moon core which puts her on the far side of the moon
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>>160152213
If she does, she doesn't say it.

Either way the only entity Sefar ever acknowledged as a rival was the war god she defeated (she says he's the first, last, and strongest enemy she ever fought), not the holy sword user.

She also does point out how weird it is that she got defeated by a tiny human when all the gods together couldn't stop her.
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>>160152063
>He was only the peak of powerlevel shitposting.
Spotted the Gilfag
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>>160151748
Someone post the XPjirou screencap.
>>
Reminder that Nerowank is not over yet.
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>>160152393
Arturia confirmed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GODS
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>>160152206
>implying I'm talking about /fgog/ only
As expected of a retard with no reading comprehension.
Why don't you just fuck off to reddit and discord, places that you go?
The simple fact of you being the braindamaged retard makes me autowin the argument
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>>160152185
You do know nobody on this general hates Lancelot, they just hate you, right?
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>>160152393
Yeah that's about what I thought
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I'm ready to get my santa alter /fgog/
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>>160152364

I'll be forever grateful if you do.
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>>160152282
モラトリアム終了~中枢へ
ムーンセル中枢へ。中枢への路でムーンセルのバグチェッカーにひっかかってしまう。
原因は主人公ではなくキャス狐。敗れた筈のサーヴァントが残っている事にムーンセルげきおこ。
→キャス狐との別れ。CCCのCCCルートにおけるキャス狐との別れをイメージ。CCCでは本当に消されるレベルのチェッカーだが、こちらのチェックは甘いのでキャス狐消滅にはいたらない。
キャス狐、いいシーンで終わらせ、(ホントは死なないけど)命を賭して別れる事で主人公の好感度と心をバッチリゲットたぜ!と企む。ネロ、それを見抜く。「いいから出直すがよい!」「アイルビーーーバーーーーーック!」
酷い事件だったね、と白野とセイバーはムーンセル中枢にたどり着き、トワイスと対面。

>こちらのチェックは甘いのでキャス狐消滅にはいたらない。
>キャス狐、いいシーンで終わらせ、(ホントは死なないけど)命を賭して別れる事で主人公の好感度と心をバッチリゲットたぜ!と企む。ネロ、それを見抜く

The bug check is too weak to destroy her but she decides to pretend that it is to get Hakuno love, and Nero figures it out.
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>>160148497
>Whatever Extella did, it did the opposite to her popularity.
It pushed Nero as literally perfect too hard.

The elections are the perfect example of this. The extreme left pushed too hard and it flung the country right.
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Why is Mother Harlot going to be Nero again?
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>>160152504
Nobody is talking about Lancelot. I'm talking about you being wrong every single time and pretending otherwise. You have been wrong in far more than just Lancelot arguments.
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>>160152167
I will if you join me cutie
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>>160152282
>Not sure where this "kicked off a bridge" thing comes from.
From Extella. Tamamo says Nero pushed her off, knocking her to the dark side.
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>>160152393
>she says he's the first, last, and strongest enemy she ever fought

Didn't Karna also do the same in his route?
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>>160152106
Altera's a bit stupid and slow, so omissions are understandable. Besides, Nasu will likely explore this shit in FGO. It's obvious reference to Grand Servants. It's almost an echo of what was spoken in London, you know why they were summoned.
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Can Manaka defeat Aliens and Grand Servants?
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>>160152585
Whore of Babylon

Nero's head hurts when she thinks about the Grail or the Grail is even mentioned in both her existing versions, the Grail is heavily associated with not only Christ but also the Whore of Babylon
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Welp, this thread has seen better times.

So what's /fgog/'s favorite original myth version of a servant? Kinda curious which stories to read next after Greek ones. Norse?
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>>160152585
Same artist
Same voice
Foreshadowing about the beast
Straight out said Nero the whore riding the beast if she's summoned as a rider?
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>>160152307
You're spouting a whole lot of bull from something you haven't even played.
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>>160152713
David
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>Arturia doesn't just save Earth but also Mooncell

STRONK
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>>160152713
sumanai's story and those related to it are pretty great. Celtic mythology is also fun as hell.
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Who would win in a fight, God-Emperor Nero Venus of Mooncell or God-Emperor of Mankind?
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>>160152713
Testament
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>>160152107
Yes, I'd say that. Tamamo always overhypes shit
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>>160152585
>>160152774
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>>160152713
Journey to the West is a classic for a reason. Hook yourself up with some old school Chinese storytelling.
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post yfw Nero is also Grand Rider
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>>160152704
>>160152774
So more Nerowank in the conceivable future? That sucks.
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>>160152713
The other minor non-Tain stories Cu appears in are fun.
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>>160152925
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Alexander the Great is part dragon?
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>>160152781
I'm not seeing any counterarguments.
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>>160152943
Didn't Extella anon post foreshadowing of more Nero-related characters like Simon Magus, and a possible Nero Caster this morning?
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>>160152816
>tfw you've read multiple translations of the Bible
It's shocking how many claim to have read it yet never did so. David's a pretty decent guy when he's not thinking with his penis.
>>160152839
>>160152947
Celtic? Sure. I'll consider that. I've read some bits about Cu, his Warp Spasms, the women he slept with but I'll check out more.
>>160152901
Definitely. I've seen some play versions but I should definitely pick it up some time.
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>>160152502
>>160152257
>No argument left. Oh let me proceed to boogeyman the shit out of this discussion so I don't look bad
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>>160152992

IS THAT A NIPPLE?
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>>160152671
Yeah it does seem to be that although if so they appeared grand saber one shot her and they all went out partying the rest of the night how anticlimactic
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>>160153016

Why the fuck would a roman emperor qualify for the caster class?
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>>160153171
wank
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>>160153171
Nero is an artist
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>>160153171

You know King Arthur is going to be in the Caster class eventually. Even if it is as a gag.
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>>160153127

Fuck off to reddit, brain damaged retard.
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>>160153171
Don't think. - Nasu
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>>160152585
>Whatever the case, her infamy is such that some theorize that the Book of Revelations found in the Vulgate Bible was written as commentary on and reaction to her supposed repression of the Christian faith, and have gone so far as to make the case that Hebrew pronunciation of her imperial name (Caesar) -NRVN QSR- is the same as the phrase "Number of the Beast."
>However, this has been proven to be patently false, as that term commonly referred to Rome itself, and not to any one individual, royal or otherwise.

Basically; Whore of Babylon was not Nero in the Bible, but some early Christians interpreted it that way anyway. It was something of a meme, that to this day people still associate them despite this.

In-universe explanation is that Rome area in FGO hints that she's got some evil in her or something. Who knows, its kept vague. Also Mother Harlot has Nero's voice actor.
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>>160152943
We've know about this for years pretty much her only wank till Rome chapter besides seems more like the beast is inside Nero which is why she's anything special in the first place
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>>160152574
How can one man be so wrong in one single post? What pushed people to Trump was the fact that Hilary was just another one centrist that would maintain status quo.

Extella didn't also pushed Nero as perfect, she fucked up and was Archimedes puppet in two routes
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>>160153094
Old Testament was about fallible people, yet strong people. Stronger than life, loved god, yet they still made their mistakes at times.
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>>160153171
>caster class?
You mean the class anyone can pretty much get into beside I'm pretty sure it's just said she as talent for magic which she never leaned

It probably because she as good mana levels or something
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Shitposters aside, it would be a thing Nasu would do to hype up FGO and Grand Servants, building up the suspense for a 'greater' crisis. Also Fate has a HUMANITY FUCK YEAHH narrative in general. Humans will come ontop of aliens and gods.
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>>160153171
Simon Magus taught her
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>>160153391
>Fate has a humanity fuck yeah narrative
Primate Murder and ORT would destroy anything humanity throw at them
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>>160153241
Imasine.
- A Homo
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>>160153352
>she fucked up and was Archimedes puppet in two routes
That's not a fuck up, he seemed pretty legit. Who wouldn't trust Kotomine? He's got such a trust worthy face.
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I just want to know if Gram is actually good (A++) or a meme sword (A+)
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>>160153127
I already said arguments and you couldn't deny any. So yeah I won what's the matter?
You're so in denial that your brain cannot read the sentences giving arguments?
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>>160153391
For >>160153161
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>>160153239
>Repeating himself
Looks like he is broken, are you sure you aren't the brain damaged retard here, parrot?

>inb4 he repeats himself again
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>>160153352
>she fucked up and was Archimedes puppet in two routes

Ultimately irrelevant when the only route with an actual resolution shoves in the center role.
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>>160153443
Zel implies humans will find a way to beat ORT in Strange Fake.
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>>160153496
Nice irony
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>>160153610
Every post I make is satire
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>>160153496
She also respects him because he's the famous Archimedes, whom the great Caesar she respects also respected. AND he has Mooncell admin powers which shows that Mooncell did summon him as an admin.
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>>160153443
>ORT
Just find Black Barrel
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>>160153505

Your argument was basically

>fuck you everybody hates her because I say so

It isn't very compelling
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>>160153517

>oh shit, they found me out again, time to pretend it isn't me

All you're missing is your Nero avatar and to start blogging about your pathetic life and how the game is too hard for you.
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>>160153658
>>160153496
Archimedes isn't Kotomine. He's not evil, he was corrupted by the void and mind controlled in a way. Liz has the same issue.
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>>160153275
Well Apocalyps was written by John anyway. He was the weirdest of the 4 evangelist and also the only one who disliked Rome.
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I still don't get it. According to >>160149392 Amaterasu is stronger than Altera, yet we know that she got her ass kicked. It makes less sense when you know that more Gods were involved in the fight.

Maybe Altera can growth beyond a seventh stage?
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>>160153582

She is the main heroine, what dos you expect?

Her original ending was also the most fucked up one, by far.
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>>160153798
Of course she can, that was just a comparison.
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>>160153658
Too bad he's been turned evil

>>160153698
That will just turn it into a hot girl
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>>160153708

Yours is

>waah only 4chan hates her, everyone elses loves muh emperor

How is it any different from his?
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>>160153735
They're not mind controlled at all. Liz isn't even on Velber's side, she's trying to steal power for her own gain and that's why she fucks up Archimedes' plans in the end (she wants to suck giant Altera's blood and take Sefar's powers, but accidentally sets her free allowing her to escape and punch Velber-02 out of its crash course to the Mooncell core), and the Material says that Archimedes chose to join Velber of his own accord.
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>>160153801
>main heroine

The material book says Altera is the main heroine of Extella. Which is why nips are mad with Nero.
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>>160153735

He willingly let himself be corrupted

>>160153732

The brain retard is pretty open about himself so he wouldn't deny his indentity. I'm not him however, no matter how much you shirltpost about it
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>>160153798
>Maybe Altera can growth beyond a seventh stage?
Definitely the only problem is she gets slower might be why she can't dodge a beam for crap
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>>160153708
Nice projecting
Your argument was
>fuck you everybody loves her because I do so everybody must too
Then I told you why it isn't true and all you could say was
>hurr y-you o-only go to /fgog/ !!

It isn't very compelling
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>>160153957
>Not expecting Nero to cuck

Looks like Japanese fans are the ones who messed up here.
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>>160153857
>That will just turn it into a hot girl

Exactly, the next step is to get the smoothest guy in the Nasuverse to woo her.
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>>160153957

Did it say that? Can you show it to me?

In any case, Altera had a pretty large role herself
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>>160154027
She didn't cuck in Extra or Extella.
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>>160153857
>That will just turn it into a hot girl

Thats a good thing then
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>>160153857
>That will just turn it into a hot girl
I'm failing to see a problem.
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>>160154079
She cucked the heroine spot away from Atilla
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>>160154080

>ORT

What did he mean by this?
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>>160153910

Mine is

>wake up and look at Twitter, other social shit and how much art and merchandising she gets

Things like that wouldn't be there If she wasn't popular. It's different from your baseless claim
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>>160154125
Fuck, I meant CCC.
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>>160154080
>tfw swimsuit marie and no kiyo or moedred
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>>160153798
She can. She evolved so much she shat on every god but for some unexplained plot reason the holy sword user was able to beat her.

Nero and co were able to beat Sefar on the moon because it was recently born and its powerlevel wasn't that high yet.
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>>160154080
What is the basis of this joke between Marie and ORT ?
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>Gilgamesh realizes Saber is not special
Based Nasu fixing his only flaw.
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Give it to me straight, /fgog/. I have exactly 2,344 prisms. Can I even get the shop CE or should I not even bother at this point?
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>>160154136
>>160154208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW0Y1ERzQyE
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>>160154012

>Implying

I never said I loved Nero and my argument was this one
>>160154143

It has a basis, unlike yours.
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>>160154136
>>160154208
Probably because her NP design is sort of reminiscent of ORT's design and that one ancient fan art pic of mahou shoujou ORT-tan.
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>>160153352
>was just another one centrist that would maintain status quo.
you seem to forget the whole trump is literally hitler and you are sexist racist tinfoil hat wearing pig if you question anything at all.

You don't understand that everything has a cause and things don't happen for no reason. The wave of SJW's, the BLM, the white privilege, the patriarchy, "feminism", the retarded kids that want communism that protest against free speech, the entire shitshow around the refugees. All of this was far left bullshit that steadily caused more and more people to swing right, it's how brexit managed to pass and it's how trump got elected, people looked at him and saw a wrench, they chose to chuck that wrench into the works.
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>>160154217
>forcing this meme
They're a tsundere couple now.
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>>160154217
Nowhere in Extella happens. Why are you pushing your fanfiction?
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>this thread
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>160154125

Atilla was the heroine of her own route, nothing was cucked.
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>>160154208
Crystals, same reason why Seath is there.
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>>160154303
>>160154302
Yeah sure Saberfags.
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>>160154225
You can easily get more than enough prisms if you diligently grind them out for the next month.
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>>160154303
>Nowhere in Extella happens. Why are you pushing your fanfiction?
Could apply that to the majority of the thread.
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>>160154270
Sure retard.
You brain is damaged so I guess you already forgot that the discussion started when you said
>nero is the western fanbase waifu
That is what the argument is about, not if nero is popular or not


You are indeed a fucking retard
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>>160154225
might as well kill yourself, no one will ever use your supports.
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>>160152246
left or right?
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>>160154302

>forcing this meme
Arturia hates his guts like Jeanne but respects his kingship
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>>160154225

You can get 500 prisms with 12-13 apples even without half ap, wait to see how many prisms you can get from the christmas event and hope for half ap or just burn apples like crazy.
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>>160154473
I want to see Jeanne and Artoria team up on Gil and bust his balls. For self insertion purposes.
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>>160154428
Should I use apples or are 8ish runs of 30APa day enough?
>>160154510
Won't the event get here once it's too late though?
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>>160154391
>Saberfags
>Liking Gil
???
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>>160154472
left
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>>160154391
I'm not a Saberfag. We saw the ending video and it's the opposite. Gilgamesh still wants her, tries to stop her from fighting Altera and others of his faction, just wants her to give up and join them, typical Arturia "I can still FIGHT" bravado and ready for round 2 when Gil is starting to get pixelated and realizing something went wrong with Sefar. So he's looking into that before continuing with Arturia.

With the bonus now Saber is worried about Gilgamesh's well-being. Worst than wanking Gil's power levels is that Arturia dropped her hard attitude to softly ask him if he's fine.
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>>160154472
Gimme that thug saint.
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>>160153369
There's some great contrast between David & the previous king Saul.

Both were chosen by the same prophet, both had humble roots yet their reactions & situations were very different. When Saul messed up, he was all about how he still wanted to be honored in front of the elders. When David messed up he didn't have any of that. Saul's kids were usually loyal to him yet he struck out against one of them for defending David. David had some rebellious ones who David had to reluctantly face on the battlefield.

It's a pretty nice contrast. It's a great example of two people in similar situations & circumstances yet how their different attitudes & actions make the two different.More of today's writers need to read this.
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>>160154472
right, no contest.
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>>160154568
>implying Saberfags don't like seeing her getting wanked
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>>160154447

Are you stupid?

saying this:
> nero is the western fanbase waifu

is basically saying she is popular, which you denied and I argued against.
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>>160154473
>but respects his kingship
This is what is OOC, Arturia HATED his way of kingship, she only respected Iskandar and saw Gil as nothing but a shitstain. This is all Gilwank. Arturia used to find him the worst piece of shit in existence and now she's worried.
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>>160154183
Wait how tall was she again?
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>>160154680
She respects that he's a king, but disagrees with his methods.
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>>160154519

It's more likely that they'd tear them off
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>>160154680
>Arturia used to find him the worst piece of shit in existence and now she's worried.
It helps that Gil doesn't actively want to rape her until she begs to be his wife anymore.
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>>160154560
>Won't the event get here once it's too late though?

The CE only goes away at the end of the year, i really doubt they'll wait until the new year's to release a christmas event, just keep farming 30ap for now and burn apples on the last week.
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>>160154629
Story of David is one of the best chapters for sure. Probably one of the greatest tales in history as a whole as well. Its like one of the oldest action stories in creation.

Still holds up very well. Characters are fallible but likable, interesting plot points, interesting character developments, interesting strategies implemented, some sad moments, some proud moments all in all solid.
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>>160154631

Not by Gil.
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>>160154560
Simple math. You have 47 days. Even assuming no event prisms and impossibly bad RNG on the 30AP drops (every single run only giving 8 silver/gold cards and never 9), and also ignoring the 7 prisms per day from the dailies resetting (doing a single run of the 40AP each day), you would get all the prisms you need (2656) in 35 days. You'd have almost two weeks of extra time even ignoring a significant chunk of prisms.
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>>160154680
Read Fate route

She hates him, she doesn't agree with him, but she did respect him in her own way. She recognizes that while his methods weren't agreeable, he was worthy to be called a king for sure. She understood his pride and strength more than almost anyone.

After hearing he was dipped into the mud she realized he had mental strength more than anyone. As he was dying and he gave one last speech about the most beautiful things in the world, she listened closely and gave him some small respect.

They couldn't agree in the least, but they were both kings that recognized each other.
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>>160154183
>but for some unexplained plot reason the holy sword user was able to beat her.
Because Excalibur is more powerful than the Gods? Excalibur is the ultimate weapon the planet forged to protect itself from threats. Gods are just extensions of Gaia, inferior ones that gain sentience. Excalibur, all seals off, is far more powerful.

Basically she fought the whole planet telling her to fuck off with a beam on the face.
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>>160154590

>She asks him what was wrong after she notices a chance in his behavior
>Just like how she did in the Fate route
>shipperfags blow out of proporcionar

You're cancer.
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>>160154472
punch saint for sure
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>>160154680

Read the Fate Route, imbecile.

She hates his guts and behavior but recognizes his kingship
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>>160155003
It's the little moments that build up.

Soon.
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>>160154995
There's no reason that Excalibur should be stronger than YHVH who represents the concept of Absolute
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>>160154664
You must actually be baiting me.
There's no way someone can actually be this dumb.
You're saying that nero is the favorite of the western fanbase which isnt true.
Also you are dumb enough to tell me that the merchandises and art which mostly comes from japan are related to how much the western fanbase like her?
This is what you are implying.

You could have just said that you forgot about the main topic but you are so fucking hard in denial that you can't accept the fact that you're bullshitting way too hard.
Just stop already, nero isnt the western waifu
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Cutest king.
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>>160154830
>>160154879
alright this seems a bit better now, thanks.
>1 run of 40AP
was I supposed to be doing that? Well then.
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Reminder this will happen on Babylon.
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>>160155114
YHWH isn't featured in Fate.
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>>160154435
Why can't this thread be more like the flustered saber fag >>160146327

And push literal fanfiction?
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>>160155171
is that a fucking corpse
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>>160155105

>Wanting Arturia to go full OOC
>Confusing interest on a sudden change of behavior from a rival into romantic interest

Kill yourself
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>>160155207
He's brought up in Apocrypha and Okeanos
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>>160153801
>She is the main heroine, what dos you expect?

The fact that she is the main heroine IS the problem, in case you can't follow the discussion at all. See >>160151576
>>160151860
>>160152307

Of all people in this franchise, Nero Claudius probably oughtn't be the fucking savior of the earth above everyone else. The whole thing is that they're wanking and spotlighting character that is a really poor fit for the role they're shoving on her, and this is exacerbated by the fact that Extra has always let you see the story from multiple characters' perspectives and completely ignore Nero if you wanted to, whereas this one eventually collapses the whole thing into Nero being the big hero.
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>>160154995
Extella defines the gods Altera fought as embodiments of nature/the world (furigana world over nature)
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>>160155171
Would be nice if we teamed up with Proto Gil and Enkidu to defeat evil normal Gil.
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>>160155171
looks like he's making D'Eon play pretend
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>>160155207
I don't remember specifically where, but I vaguely recall YHWH coming up a couple of times and being referred to as so absurdly powerful nothing we've seen in Type-Moon comes anywhere close
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>>160155315
>War is nature
Huh?
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>>160154968
>and gave him some small respect.

That last part is from the DEEN anime. In the VN she just walks off.
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>implying it won't be this
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>>160155171
that saber looks broken, he should demand a replacement.
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>>160154269
I keep forgetting that I rolled her twice. Is she worth leveling?
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>>160155370
Well yeah?
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>>160155318
It's going to be Caster Gil fighting a war against Ishtar and her allies while Enkidu and our party gather allies to aid him.
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>>160155137

> You're saying that nero is the favorite of the western fanbase which isnt true.

You're free to dispute this Idea however you did say she wasn't popular at all which is what I argued against
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>>160154995
We don't know if it was Arturia.

Anyway, what's important about this is that what materials say justify what we were told ingame. The reason why Sefar was able to beat the gods and why the Sefar you fought was a jobber were explained.

All that's left is to explain in a future game who was the holy sword user and how he managed to beat the Sefar on Earth to tie everything nicely. Until then there is no point in discussing it or call it bullshit.
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>>160154472
Martha.
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>>160155171

Looks like he killed her which makes sense since she'd rather die than give in into him. Only reason Gil likes her is because he can never reach her
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>>160155370
The war god is to be precise a god of conflict and battle.

The wording makes it sound like they're avatars of concepts. Tamamo mentions death jobbing to Sefar.
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>>160155370
Didn't you know that animal groups go to war with other animal groups?
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>>160155309

Nero was always Extra's main heroine, this isn't new. Look who is the star of the anime adaptation
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>>160155437
Use her with Sad Vlad pretty often,she is pretty good and extremely tanky suitable for supportive-type servant.
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>>160155574
>death jobbing to Sefar.
You could say he was doing his job
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>>160155574
Isn't Death supposed to be a high level concept in the Nasuverse? I guess if that anon who was speculating that King Hassan had MEoDP was right then he's no help against Sefar, let alone VOID
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>>160155625
Altera is the main heroine of Extella. Like Arcueid is the main heroine of Tsukhime and Saber is the main heroin of Fate/stay night. So Altera getting sidelined at the end is just following the established pattern.
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>>160155539
She nearly got mind broken by Medea although she did hold out for a long time so I'm sure Gil could find the right combination of magic items in his storage to thoroughly fuck her mind up as long as he has enough time.
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>>160155574
Sefar confirmed stronger than Archetype Earth
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OTP
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>>160155625
>Nero was always Extra's main heroine, this isn't new.
No, she wasn't. In Extra, the heroines were Rin and Rani. In CCC, the main heroine was Sakura.
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>>160155718
>Like Arcueid is the main heroine of Tsukhime
You mean the heroine who only appears in two out of five routes.
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>>160155315
The Ancient Gods are the embodiments of natural phenomena, not the world itself. They are still just part of one of the "sheets" overlaid on the planet depending on the era. If Excalibur was forged by the planet and its functions ar invariable from era to era, then it is hierarchically superior since it comes from the "real" earth, underneath the different sets of rules overlaid by whichever species dominated the planet at the time.
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can someone link me the album with the extella pages?
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has anyone streamed Artoria's side story yet fuck
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>>160155748

But then he'd get bored of her and discard her

Gil likes her because she doesn't gives herself up to him, she is unreachable
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>>160155815
Yes that was the point he was making
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>>160155793
Arturia > Sefar > Arc/Gods
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>>160155798
Sorry wrong picture.
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>>160155718
>Saber is the main heroin of Fate/stay night
Can't argue with that. Especially for Takeuchi.
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>>160155860
Its different from Saber since she has a role to play even when its not her route. From the looks of it Altera is the same.
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>>160155847
>Gil likes her because she doesn't gives herself up to him, she is unreachable

I've heard something like this before.

>Nasu And what about you? Probably Saber, right?

>Takeuchi It's because she's a glimmering star just out of reach that she's beautiful.

>tfw Gil was Takeuchi's self insert all along
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>>160155718

> Altera is the main heroine of Extella

Citation?

In any case, I don't ser how you can say Altera wqs shafted? Have you played the game, she was important in ALL of the routes.
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>>160155909
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Nasu is pretty funny
>M-MEoDP are totally strong and not a shitty ability guys
>Oh by the way they aren't good for anything aside from killing weakshit that servants would easily throw into the dumpster

fucking kek no wonder Tsukhime failed to take off compared to Fate
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「fgoアルテラはEXTELLAアルテラの劣化」「ネロが玉藻を二つの意味で蹴落とす」「キャス孤はサブサーヴァント」全体的にアタリ強いな?????

nips be mad
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>>160155472
>We don't know if it was Arturia.
Oh, god you're totally retarded or in denial. It's a subtle reference to grand Servants which bridges to London Order information about why they were first called forth. Do you fucking believe Arturia isn't going to be Grand Saber instead some random who will take her place when it's established she's the Wielder of Gaia's planetary saving holy sword?
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>>160155994
We don't know if it was Arturia.
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>>160155951

Difference between the two is that Takeuchi knows his place
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>>160155847
Gil would only discard her if she was thoroughly broken. He doesn't want that. He wants to obtain her while she is herself.

I'm certain if he ever manages that, he would be happy.
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>>160155909

I keep doing it somehow, sorry.
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>>160155971
It's not illegal if it's yourself.
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>>160155625
>Nero was always Extra's main heroine, this isn't new

Neither Extra nor CCC railroaded the player into picking her or made her a central figure. In fact, even when you chose her as your Servant, she's really never the central character in the plot nor does anything build her up to that role. Nero, Emiya and Tamamo were always the three equally-valid choices as your Servants and always had the same degree of protagonism, which is to say, not really that much since neither story was truly about them.
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>>160155978
Who gives a shit, they get more mad at DW and they don't change.

Sounds like the nips are fucking raging over some promotional phrases hype meme as if the entire story should bend to it
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>>160155838
Can't stream what nobody knows how to unlock.
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>>160156042
That's like saying we don't know that Mysterious Heroine X is Artoria.
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>Saber's story still isn't unlocked

What the fuck, Japan?
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>>160156096
We know MHX is Arturia. Her FGO profile says so.

We don't know if the holy user was Arturia and this is a fact you like it or not.
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>>160156079
F/SN railroads you into ending up with Sakura as the final, ultimate choice and nobody complained even though Arturia is the main heroine. She is an afterthought in the final route's ending while Sakura is the winner.

This is nothing new for Nasu let alone Type-Moon, stop acting like the raging of some fucking nips on 2ch and Twitter means anything
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>>160156117
The unlock conditions must be bullshit of the highest order
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>>160156053

Yeah, that's the thing. An Arturia who gives in to Gil isn't herself which means that he'd get bored and discard her

Raed his last line of dialogue in the Fate route again.
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>>160156096
>MHX is Artoria

M-MASAKA.
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>>160156086
EOP
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>>160156185
>nobody complained
oh you sweet child
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>>160156079
CCC railroaded you into picking Sakura as the true end, what's the difference.

You had the servant endings and the true ending, and Sakura was put on a higher level than any of the servant endings. It's no different.
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>>160156053
No, his whole speech is about unattainable things being beautiful.
Once he gets her she is useless.
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>>160155453
No that's not what you were arguing against since I never said that in the first place.
>nero is the western fanbase waifu
>nero is popular
Those are two things unrelated, you're in full damage control right now.
Now that you're seeing how dumb you're first claim sounded and how hard you lost the argument you try to turn this around? No way, just admit you went full headcanon with nero is the waifu of the western fanbase and it's done.

>he thinks that the amount of merchandise and art is related to how much the western fanbase like a character
I won't forget this kek
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>>160156089

Seems like that Nip who said that you had to defeat Arturia and Mumei as Gilgamesh in the Extra Hard was fucking lying
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>>160156209
You're misunderstanding a bit. In CCC, he likes her before he knows her. It's her ideal woman type of thing: the one he would marry and be with above anyone else. The issue is that his fetish is 'break what is beautiful and perfect'. He's contradictory, he'll do something he'll hate because he can't help but love that and, in that process, break what he considered beautiful.

It's more complicated than "giving up." Being out of his reach meant he wouldn't get a chance to ruin her.
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>>160156318

Okay then, let's clear this up

>nero is the western fanbase waifu
This can be disputed

>nero is popular
This can't

Is this satisfactory?
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>>160156401
As expected of the person who both loves and hates himself
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>>160156185
>She is an afterthought in the final route's ending while Sakura is the winner.
Last Episode unlocks after you finish all the endings. And it's about Arturia.

Saber is certainly no afterthought in HF, she's one of the most important characters. She symbolizes Shirou's older self's ideals, now corrupted, trying to kill him for his mistakes and such. He has to erase her memories to be able to function.
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>>160156185
>F/SN railroads you into ending up with Sakura as the final, ultimate choice

No it does not. The meaningful story is resolved in all routes in different ways. Extella drops you a bad end whichever way you go and then only resolves the story for real in a final route that shoves Nero in the lead, shafts Tamamo as a secondary and drops Emiya altogether.

Just fucking stop trying to wank Nero into being more than she ever was by comparing her to stuff that is not the same at all. It's embarrassing and you're the only
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>>160156401
You're misunderstanding.
His ideal type was petite and blond.
That says nothing of personality.
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>>160156198
How else would they be able to sell DLC to let you unlock Saber right away if it wasn't?
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>>160156482
>Last Episode unlocks after you finish all the endings
You mean the thing added years later
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>>160156401

I can't ser how you are disagreeing with me.

She is her ideal woman because he can't and will never reach her and therefore he will never be able to ruin her as he desires and subsequently get bored of her.
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>>160156401

In short, Gil is the old faceless man who tries really hard to fuck the heroine, then breaks and discards her.
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>>160156482
Last Episode wasn't included in the original story. It's an appeasement to the assblasted Arturiafags who were mad that she didn't get a true happy end, nothing more.

Nasu wouldn't have written it if he wasn't so weak that he needed to cave to angry waifufags

>Saber is certainly no afterthought in HF
She is an afterthought as a heroine. She is important as a character, but not as a heroine. Just like Altera is not important as a heroine in the final route of Extella but Nero is. Now fuck off if you can't understand that
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>>160156209
You can think of it both ways.

Arturia could give herself to him
or
Gil could obtain Arturia himself.

Giving herself to him could come to pass in a lot of ways, some not of her own will, and it could even happen with no input on his part. There is no reward in something like that.

Obtaining her himself however is a grand achievement, it would mean he worked hard enough to slowly inch step by step towards his goal, through his own actions Arturia would come to like him, and one time, accept his feelings. This wouldn't be giving herself to him, this would be him reaching for the stars and grabbing them through his own power.
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>>160156494
Tamamo has flawless victory happy end where Velber will never find earth and immortal soul Hakunon and Tamamo rule over their eternal mooncell empire fucking in bed all day
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>>160156440
It can and I explained why it's wrong

And obviously nero is popular unless you only know the vn and anime
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>>160156494

Tamanho has a top tier happy ending in her route, what are you talking about?
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>>160156513
"Intense petite blonde maiden with green eyes." It says about the personality, intense. Also in his Secret Garden, he likes noble battle maidens the best.

Gil wants to ruin what he thinks is perfect, that's the perfect woman. In general, he empathized with BB's plea to take Hakuno away from her, 'from her reach' in true ending because he does a similar shit. As the anon says >>160156470

His concept of warped love is fucked up.
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>>160156571
And yet both end with her being discarded.
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>>160156591
>and immortal soul Hakunon

Souls have expiration dates in TM, just like the body. Look at Zouken.

Entire reason Heavens Feel sorcery exists is to create an immortal soul. I think even a theme in Tamamo's route is knowing that they'll have to part one day since he's mortal.
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>>160156561

Last Episode was created because Nasu felt he needed to end Shirou's journey properly, but nice try secondary.
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>>160156291
>CCC railroaded you into picking Sakura as the true end, what's the difference.

The difference is, there is a great deal of buildup for it and she's a central character in the story. The three Servants were treated as equals too.

As had been stated a hundred times already, there is basically is no competent buildup to make Nero shaft two other characters she's been equal to fro two entire games.

This is fucking ridiculous. Nasu himself states clearly that Nero being the oly one to hog the main route is a result of the other two alternatives being cut for time, and yet you are here trying to wank some stupid claim that this was all a deliberate choice to make her the true heroine? Are you saying Nasu is lying and that Nero was chosen as the heroine as part of the game's design?
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>>160156542
>>160156561
It doesn't matter. Nasu still write it and loved every second of it. You're still ignoring Arturia plays the most important role in Shirou's life: the ideals embodiment. It doesn't matter she's not fucking him, she's always a super important figure and she's never missing.

Sakura is the missing heroine in most routes.
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>>160156643
He's capable of pure love.
Just look at his relationship with Enkidu.
He doesn't have that towards her. Just fuck off shipperfag.
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>>160156678
No, that was about Velber coming back and killing everyone in the Moon Cell before Hakuno decides they're going to fight and they end up winning against Sefar.

It was just Tamamo being pessimistic about their chances of winning. While Hakuno would just be fucked forever she'd just go back to the throne and keep existing if she dies as a servant

>>160156732
>Needed to end Shirou's journey properly
Heaven's Feel True does end his journey properly. He saves someone in the way Kiritsugu saved him and gets to live happily with them without being saddled with seigi no mikata bullshit
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whoa guys
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>>160156678
Not in the mooncell
>I think even a theme in Tamamo's route is knowing that they'll have to part one day since he's mortal.

Oh never mind you have no clue what your talking about
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>>160156571

Both would end with him getting bored of her and discarding her

It is OOC for Arturia to give in to him, which is why he likes her. It isn't that difficult to understand.
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>>160156659
FINALLY. I hope it's not some shipping bullshit.
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>>160156678
Read Extella spoiler anon's posts. That only applies in the material world, the soul and no the body is the core in SE.RA.PH. so soul Hakuno is immortal.
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>>160156823
>Oh never mind you have no clue what your talking about
That's what summaryfag told us when talking about her ending.
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>i'm almost out of hearts again

This keeps happening no matter how many i farm.
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>>160156659

how did he unlocked it?

>>160156596

Let's leave it at that, anon.
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>>160156785
He took immense pleasure from watching Enkidu be destroyed.
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>>160156741
>Nasu himself states clearly that Nero being the oly one to hog the main route is a result of the other two alternatives being cut for time

If you're going to take that stance then stop fucking whining about Nero wank and start whining about missing their deadlines instead you stupid fuck

If that is true if has nothing to do with "Wanking" Nero and everything to do with them fucking up and not having time to wank the other two properly
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>>160156741
Not only have you not played the game your now making shit up
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>>160156796
>Heaven's Feel True does end his journey properly.
Not according to Nasu. He told Takeuchi to fuck of when he wanted an expansion of Saber's ending just because, but decided to use it to show Shirou's end game journey of the Tin Hearted Hero. This is why Tin Man was the original name of the ending.
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>>160156796
>Heaven's Feel True does end his journey properly. He saves someone in the way Kiritsugu saved him and gets to live happily with them without being saddled with seigi no mikata bullshit

The final Taiga Dojo included IN THE GAME ITSELF refers to HF as being a flipside to the other two stories, showing a different answer to Shirou's life. Even before any interviews came out, the game itself was placing it as an alternative route Shirou could take rather than the conclusion of the other two.
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>>160156796
>Heaven's Feel True does end his journey properly.
He meant Fate Shirou, anon
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>>160156920
He was crying the whole time.
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>>160156919
http://fatede-go.com/fate_extella-altria-appearance-condition-52043.html

Pulled it from Twitter which got it from here.
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>>160156796

but the seigi no mikata thing needed to be resolved as well. Last Episode did that
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>>160156678
Souls are immortal in Mooncell.

>I think even a theme in Tamamo's route is knowing that they'll have to part one day since he's mortal.

That's because she's Amaterasu and knows that it's time for Velber to come back, and she's an idiot and thinks it'll kill everyone on Earth including him.

Archimedes later reveals that
1) Sefar is a beacon
2) Mooncell is using jamming shit to make the solar system invisible to Velber

They kill Sefar so as long as Mooncell exists Velber can't find Earth. Archimedes fucks off to another parallel universe too. PLUS Nero and Altera's routes' world lines are cut off halfway through in the credits but Tamamo's continues on forever so it's not pruned.

Literally best ending.
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>>160156920
CCC flashback made him bawl and cry like a whiny bitch.
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Top Tier Swords
>EXcalibur
>EA
>Excalibur
>Arondight
>Teardrop Photon Ray
>Merodach

Shit Tier Swords
>Caladbolg
>Galatine
>Caliburn
>Photon Ray
>Clarent
>Balmung
>Sword of Boudicca

Notice how all the Top tiers are Divine Constructs and the Shit tiers aren't.
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>>160156646
>>160156827
Maybe, but with how Gil has changed over the series to a tamer version, I doubt it'd happen. He may toy with the idea but I believe he would be able to restrain.
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>>160156876
Read his later posts. Later routes reveal retrospectively that in Tamamo route Velber can't come back to Earth and Hakumind won't die.
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>>160157019
>They kill Sefar so as long as Mooncell exists Velber can't find Earth. Archimedes fucks off to another parallel universe too. PLUS Nero and Altera's routes' world lines are cut off halfway through in the credits but Tamamo's continues on forever so it's not pruned.
>Literally best ending.
As expected of Nasu's waifu.
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>>160157174
But muh Nero wank and everyone but her gets shafted
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>>160157241
Sakurai.
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>>160157125
>maybe
No, it's definite. His "love" for her is tainted and always has been, when he's capable of being able to love purely without wanting to break them.

Fuck off shipperfag.
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>>160157019
what happens to other servants in that ending?
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I was just thinking, I don't think I've ever actually named my fanfic yet. Any ideas?
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>>160157125
He didn't change, his fetish is still there. Enkidu is still the only person he considers worthy enough to be by his side and he likes Arturia because she constantly rejects him and will be forever unreachable to him
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>>160157396

Fate/fuck off
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>>160157382
ded aside from the ones in Tamamo's faction
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>>160154629
>Kekacock sucker doesn't read materials
>>160157098
>A Round Dick
>Gilgameme Ea
>Ex-cretion-Calibur
KEK
E
L
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>>160157478
>>reddit
buddy
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>>160157382
Tamamo lets Nero go but her Hakuno will die eventually since that's mind.

Altera and body Hakuno die.

heil tamamo
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>>160157595
I thought both mind and soul die unless they fuse when body dies
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>>160157283
His interactions with her in extella definitely seemed to say opposite.

>>160157418
He broke that with Hakuno though. Not love, but he's definitely attached to Hakuno in a way.
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>>160157641
No, Soul is immortal. Mind can't exist without the body.
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>>160157595
>Tamamo lets Nero go and lets her Hakuno die
what a bitch, you'd think she'd at least save the other Hakuno since it's part of her beloved
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>>160157641
That's what Archimedes told Nero to manipulate her. It turns out in the true route that soul is probably fine because the soul is the core in SeRaPh.
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>>160157726
She outright tries to kill red and green Hakuno saying that blue is enough.
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>>160157668
No, they don't. You're seeing too much into things. Again, he's capable of a pure love, which he does not have towards Saber.
You also just rebutted yourself. He doesn't love Hakuno, just like how he doesn't love Iskandar but still respects and likes him.

Fuck off shiperfag.
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>>160157818
what the fuck Tamamo

It makes it sound like this is just playing with action figures to her rather than dealing with pieces of the person she's supposedly in love with
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>>160157818
What was Altera ending like? She dies?
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>>160157972
Altera dies and Body Hakuno sends his memories back in time which wind up in Mind Hakuno (I think?) to stop all this bullshit from happening which kills him because time travel is costly
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>>160157932
Tamamo is evil.
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>>160157932
She IS an evil fox.
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>>160157932
She is evil and a bitch to most people you know
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>>160157818
Kicking her off the bridge wasn't enough
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>>160157890
>butthurt Emiyafag not accepting the cuckening

Kek
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>>160157932
All Extra girls are insane petty catty bitches

Definitely not the waifu sues they are in FGO though.
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>>160157668

> His interactions with her in extella definitely seemed to say opposite.

How the fuck? He was being his cocky arrogant self until shit happened and he post poned their battle. That's it

> He broke that with Hakuno though. Not love, but he's definitely attached to Hakuno in a way.

Hakuno is not on Enkidu's level and you're stupid if you ever thought they were

Like Iskandar, Hakuno is someone Gil respects
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>Evil fox
>>
>Altera didn't get a romantic ending because she got turned into a kid
>Nero didn't get a romantic ending because she has to share Hakuno with Tamamo

And then Tamamofags cry she got the short end of stick.
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>>160158152

>Lost the argument
>Begin le ebin meme cuckposting based on absolutely nothing

Fuck off, cancer
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>>160158027
Gilgamesh is the only one who survives or he dies there too?
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>>160158185
The Hakuno that forms the base of the True End Hakuno is Nero's
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>>160158027
Wait does that kill past body too?
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>>160158164
>Like Iskandar, Hakuno is someone Gil respects
It's a significantly deeper bond than with Iskandar. The parallel with Enkidu is so fucking blatant it's even implied the Berserker you had in Gilgamesh's route WAS Enkidu
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>>160156643
I can sympathize with that self-defeating fetish.
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>>160158152
>Emiyafag not accepting the cuckening
If I were an Emiyafag I would want him all to myself.
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>>160158268
He's still chummy with the two girls.
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>>160158287
>Unknown Berserker = Enkidu
>shipperfags at it with their fanfic again
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>>160158341
Every harem anime has a #1 girl
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>>160158287

> It's a significantly deeper bond than with Iskandar.
Yes

> The parallel with Enkidu is so fucking blatant

Nevertheless, Enkidu is unique in Gil's eyes.

> it's even implied the Berserker you had in Gilgamesh's route WAS Enkidu

First time I'm reading this
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>>160156920
>>160156995
>>160157067
Maybe he was like this.
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>>160158375
I understand shipping your self-insert with Gil. He's quite desirable.
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>>160158287
There is no parallel with Enkidu. Stop writing fanfic. He's sometimes projecting the Enkidu situation to the Sakura one with the MC. Because the AIs are similar to what Enkidu is.
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>>160158268
He's the least important one honestly
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>>160158268
Its Atilla's Hakuno fused with Nero's, sort of.

Which is odd come to think of it. Why didn't his memories transfer into Atilla's Hakuno instead? They specifically chose Nero's Hakuno. Well its probably explained at the time.
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>>160158497
Maybe because Nero being tricked by Archimedes is the biggest divergence point they could start from
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>>160157972
Giant God is turned into Sefar by Archimedes, Heroic Spirit Altera breaks out because muh master and kills Sefar, then dies because she's a part of Sefar.

Body Hakuno sends his memories back in time to Mind Hakuno which kills him because time travel.

>>160158274
No, but Body Hakuno still dies at the same point in time that he did in the previous timeline because time paradoxes because Nasu doesn't know how time paradoxes work.

>>160158185
Altera's Hakuno is dead in the true end, and they're both dead in Altera's end.

Nero route's end has Nero crying on conscious vegetable Hakuno's lap for eternity.
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>>160158491

Body's also pretty boy important
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The only conclusion i've drawn from all these posts is that Extra, CCC and Extella were a fucking mistake.
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>>160158497
It's only memories and records, they're limited and not real feelings or experiences. This is stressed a lot.

Body Hakuno's story is body Hakuno's story, not Mind's.

Mind Hakuno also shares the memories/records with Nero and Tamamo.
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>>160157890
The difference between Hakuno and Arturia is Gil never proclaimed to love or want Hakuno, while Gil's first appearance was him wanting to make Saber his wife. There's a very different progression here. Hakuno had to work to obtain Gil's respect while Gil started off wanting Arturia.

I may be looking too much into things, but he seems to have warmed up to Saber more than in FSN. Even if it's not a true love right now, I believe it can progress to that point with how Gil has been changing.
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>>160158557
>No, but Body Hakuno still dies at the same point in time that he did in the previous timeline because time paradoxes because Nasu doesn't know how time paradoxes work.
Attractor fields, how do they work?
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>>160158557
>Altera's Hakuno is dead in the true end,
Technically, Altera's route's Body Hakuno merged-gave his memories to Mind one, so he was preserved.
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The more of Extella is actually explained the less wanton nero wank sounds like it actually happened
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>>160158661
The memories are only records and body Hakuno dies on-screen without merging.

He CANNOT merge to save himself because that would cause a paradox that would mean mind never got the memories in the first place because he has to die because Nasu doesn't know how time works.
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>>160158612
duh
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>>160158723
Sefar being weak because it had just awoken so had no time to grow make the defeat less of an asspull.
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how was mordred created
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>>160158723
Wow shitposters overreact like every other time since the universe began
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>>160158808
by mistake
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Where the fuck is Saber story? I thought nips managed to unlock it.
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>>160158808
I forgot to use a condom.
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>>160158808
magic futa semen
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>>160158636
He wanted her so he can break her.
He genuinely likes Hakuno. He genuinely likes Iskandar. He genuinely loves Enkidu. He does not feel anything genuinely positive towards Saber.
Believing "it can happen eventually" is the same as shipping Rider x Tokiomi because it could happen in some random timeline. It's stupid and doesn't make sense, and with Babylon and Strange Fake that will just get put even further into the ground, because they'll both extensively go into Enkidu. Which means his relationship with Gil. All other relationships he's had look like shit compared to theirs.
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>>160158824
It's reminding me of when Cu Alter was revealed and everyone lost their shit over how he was absurdly overpowered.

And then once everyone else realized he was only that strong because of a Grail boost and stopped wanking him, Melvin decided to START
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>Altera got shit on

It's BB all over again.
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>>160158723
This DOES happen

>Two routes while everyone else has only one
>Ends up at bond level 15 or something while everyone else is 7-9 at the end of their route
>Is featured in the true ending
>The default form of Hakuno (even before being split) is red
>On Altera's route is the big cool rival with fancy faceoff while Tamamo is unceremoniously killed off as a midboss
>Is Hakuno's MAIN servant, Tamamo is a beta sub
>Kicked Tamamo off the bridge
>In the true route, the regalia and Hakuno are combined, and Nero takes the combined ones
>Nero runs off to fight Welber while Tamamo stays home babysitting
>Nero has two upgraded forms, Tamamo has one, Altera only has base form
>Nero has two DLC constumes from pre-orders or LE shit, Altera only has one if you order from Amazon, Tamamo has none
>Nero deus ex machina saves the day channeling the power of Venus to OHK Velber-02
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>>160158898
they lied
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>>160158808
Merlin gave Arturia a magic futa dick for a laugh. Morgan capitalized on this and took her semen and made a homonculus out of it.
Yes, the fall of the kingdom can be considered a direct consequence of a wizard making a magical penis joke.
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>>160158636

> I may be looking too much into things
You are

> but he seems to have warmed up to Saber more than in FSN.

How did you get this impression from their awfully minor interaction?

> Even if it's not a true love right now

Never was

>I believe it can progress to that point with how Gil has been changing.

Wishful and OOC thinking
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>>160158996
Merlin seems like a huge cunt for telling Arturia the fall of Camelot was inevitable in the future he saw when by all accounts he was completely responsible for it by giving Arturia a dick despite knowing what such an action would entail.
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>>160158636
>I may be looking too much into things

Yes, yes you have, as idiot shippers always do.
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How's bonding going?
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>>160158976
>Nero deus ex machina saves the day channeling the power of Venus to OHK Velber-02
Wasn't it weakened because it just awoke?
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i really miss cheatapk
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>>160158976
Half of that isn't wank and completely forgets stuff like tamamo version is the only one who survives in their own route
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>>160159098
Merlin seems like a huge cunt for creating a little girl who's purpose in life was to suffer and die alone and betrayed without achieving her dream.
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>>160158976
But Tamamo has the only happy solo end whereas Nero has an objectively bad dead end.

Also out of the three standard routes Altera's is most important because it sets up for the true end.
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>>160158976
>Nero deus ex machina saves the day channeling the power of Venus to OHK Velber-02
Was it explained why does this shit even worked when gods couldn't do shit?
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Is ISIS man worth for lvl100?
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>>160159129
She kills Velber-02, the ship itself, not Sefar.
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>>160159098
>>160159183
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>>160159113
What's the fastest route?
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>>160159219
He's not even worth getting to level 2, but please go ahead, you're an attentionwhore.
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>>160159217
The gods fought Sefar, not Velber-02.

Also Nero has to fly inside Velber and destroy its two cores to defeat it, and can only do so because Sefar punched Velber so hard it cracked open.
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>>160159183
Merlin wanted her to not pick the sword. But she did it. He tried to stop her.
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>>160159292
Was it weaker then if Sefar could punch it open?
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>>160159113
Pretty good
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So what I'm getting here is that Extella is like the unholy lovechild of Evangelion and Steins;Gate.
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>>160159297
He tried to stop her. By showing her the happiness her sacrifice would bring. He did not show her the future that Britian's destruction was unavoidable and would leave the country completely ruined. He realizes his mistake when she leaves for the mainland to fight the Romans. Merlin fucked up big time, he never prepared her properly.
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>>160159373
You aren't Kiyohime kool.
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>>160159113
>only just got Gil to 8
Not good.
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>>160159378
You forgot mass effect and blazblue
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>>160159401
It's because he was too much in love with her.
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>>160159378
Sounds like it. Altera reminds me vaguely to Kaworu, only brown and "female."
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>Official wife: Nero
>Cuckubine: Tamamo
>Daughteru: Altera
>Suffering: EMIYA
Sounds about right?
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>>160159373
KIYOHIME KOOL is that you
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>>160159373
kiyohime kool pls
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Post F2P teams
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>>160159436
Insects can't love machines.
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>>160159372
It's a ship.

Archimedes was trying to crash it into the Mooncell core to destroy it, and when it crashed into the lightless zone after Sefar punched it its thrusters were strong enough that it could push the entire zone towards the core and try to ram the whole mass into it, but on its own it's just a ship.
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>>160159401
>He did not show her the future that Britian's destruction was unavoidable and would leave the country completely ruined.
But he did show her the ending, though. Arturia stubbornly thought she could change it. Merlin was sure she was going to turn away. Anyway, in the end, she learned she did her best and was proud of it, which was what mattered and he was happy she was finally at peace.

Merlin was autistic with human feelings. He never cared about anyone before. He himself said so, he always made kings and discarded them. This was the first time he was attached.
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>>160159440
>Official Wife: Nero
>Official cockblocker: Tamamo
>Daughteru: Altera
>Did nothing wrong: EMIYA
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>>160159562
>>Did nothing at all in the whole game: EMIYA
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>>160159507
That's the lie he told himself, you know that. That's why he got trapped in that dumb as fuck trap.
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>>160158930
It's easier for someone to start having positive feelings towards someone you feel strongly about.

I don't believe it can happen eventually because it's already started, the only question is when which is why I said progress rather than develop.

>>160159005
With someone like Gil you have to look for the minor changes.

>>160159105
Something I think is mistaken is I don't think they will end up together, Arturia already loves another. So while it would be nice to see, all I am arguing is Gil's side.
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>>160159516
>People have been bitching for days about Nero with a power she won't normally have with help from one of the strongest being around for beating a ship
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>>160159516
So Sefar saved the day. Why did people pretend Nero did a lot?
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>>160159704
angry tamamofags
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>>160159617
fuck off reddit
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>>160159219
He is good enough on 90
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>>160159541
He showed her her own ruin. Camelot would be destroyed but the people would be happy.

>Uther and I raised an ideal king,

>I think that was good.

>However, what happened next did not happened as planned.

>We sought the ideal king and while you sought for the people happiness.

>From the start, what we saw was different.

>It would have been better If I could have perceived that difference faster.

Near the end of Fate route she smiles happily and is relieved that she was able to save Shirou, as a girl who couldn't save anyone before.
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>>160159682
>Meanwhile totally Mysterious holy Sword Wielder X One shot Sefar in one of its strongest forms that beat all gods

Kek
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>>160159682
Nero and Tamamo do defeat Sefar on their own routes using one third of the Regalia (one third of Mooncell's power)
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>>160159704
She got a new form and is a saberface that crime can never be forgiven
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When are we getting Saber Venus in GO

I want all the nero clones
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>>160159749
I think reddit would want something like EMIYA/Arturia rather than Gil. But I wouldn't know because I never go there to assess how they feel about things, that's just the most normal non-shirou pairing I can think of.
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Why are fags insisting Altera got shit on? Her wish wasn't that she wanted to fuck Hakuno, but she wanted to be reborn and shit. She got it now.
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>>160159862
>he doesn't get it
Because alterafags wanted an end where Hakuno fucked her so they could self insert and get what they wanted
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>>160159794
Yeah but it just woke up and their using the mooncell power beside the whole bitching was just Nero beat it in the true route
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>>160159794
Yet it's Sefar who just awakes and isn't yet grow to be powerful enough. So it's understandable. It's not the one who fought Gods.
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>>160159853
fuck off reddit
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>>160159783
You know no matter how much they wank her it just feels like she gets instant win items without really being strong at all
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>>160159617
It is easier, but she will never, ever be someone he likes in any positive or genuine manner. He already has someone he values above all else.
>With someone like Gil you have to look for the minor changes
Except not really. Even just from the FSN routes he's different, and even more so from FSN to HA, where he's childish, playful, and has a soft side to children. His character has never been subtle because he's not a subtle person.

Fuck off shipperfag.
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>>160159918
Altera's pussy belongs to Gudako.
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>>160159918
I want to fuck Altera and lovingly raise loli Altera and then fuck loli Altera.
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>>160160363
I want to do all those same things, but lesbianly
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How do I make Li Shuwen good
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Post other soon to be canon pairings.
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>>160159941
Crest of the Wandering Star

Exclusive skill of Attilaight Cell.

The ability to turn into a giant god in order to destroy civilization. The fundamental design of Titan Altera.

With this passive skill, the lives, structures, and concepts she destroys are absorbed as spiritron information and she increases in size. Altera cannot by her own will remove this skill.

By absorbing an amount of mana equal to her current HP amount, her maximum HP doubles.

Further, due to her modifier as the Titan, whenever her structure reaches a size double to the previous (16M, 32M, 64M, 128M, 256M, 512M, 1024M) she will advance to the next stage, and all of her parameters are increased by 1 digit.

For example, if STR A is equal to a value of 150, and a + doubles that to 300, then with the Titan modifier, what is 300 at first stage, becomes 3,000 at second stage; 30,000 at third stage; and so on, becoming 300,000,000 at her seventh stage.

This approaches the Gold-Fur White-Face in her nine-tailed form (387,420,489) - an amount of energy on the level of a star.

The mooncell version is 64m so stage 3 30000 STR if her starting value is A+
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>>160160556
pic not related?
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>>160160295
He'll have to win over her father and his two wives first.
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>>160160049
I don't think you get it. A shitter with Excalibur (say EMIYA) will not be able to operate it at full. Artoria's dragon core shits mana when she's not nerfed as Servant for plot reasons, which is what pumps Excalibur's power.
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>>160160494
Burn him.
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>>160160597
BL ESL shit translation
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>>160160642
You mean the thing they shoved in her before she's was born
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>>160160167
It's less that he's subtle, more that he is very difficult to deal with if you are doing anything but praising him. The children look up to him so he responds well to them.

He already has positive feelings towards Saber with how he's changed since FSN.
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>>160160494
Burn him.
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Do you think they'll ever have an event where you can try and get every single limited servant in the game?
I really want another shot at getting this chocolate goddess one more time
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>- Altera, the White Titan was one of 3 ships that fell to the Solar System 14000 years ago
So the other 2 also fell in the Solar System? You think Artoria was on a roll and blasted them too?
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>>160160775
shit BL ESLOP translation
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>>160160720
>more that he is very difficult to deal with if you are doing anything but praising him.

He hates kiss asses like Tokiomi, and likes Hakuno because they challenge him at times and are determined enough to stare him on without cowering, while also knowing their limits and not pushing too far.

As Gil himself puts it, he's selfish and whimsical about these things. If a king decides it then its correct.
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>>160160715
Yes, so? She was a fetus. You're again missing the point she was conceived to be powerful. She was the transition king between the ages, after all. Both Gaia and Alaya blessed her.

You're also retarded to deny she didn't work her ass training in every sense. She didn't even sleep or dream because her life was commitment to her ruler. It wasn't like Nero who spent her life scratching her bum and actually got powers because of her delusion. Arturia trained and sacrificed herself for her role.
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>>160160612

As related as this one.
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>>160160761
Not for event servants no.

For Limited gacha servants new years is a decent bet aside from the collab event ones like VOID and Ilya
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>>160160720
>he is very difficult to deal with if you are doing anything but praising him
Wrong. Kirei and him get along, as well as Iskandar and Enkidu. None of them constantly praised him, and they are some of the few he gets along best with.

I don't have the time or patience to keep saying the same shit to you. Enjoy being wrong about every aspect of Gil's character.
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>>160160912

Or this one.
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What would've happened if Kerry did not adopt this child.
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>>160160994
Spooky Hassan x Himself is a very cute pairing
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>>160160932
How about setting up old events with new ones like what they did this october?
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>>160160892
Nero probably had a pretty fucked up upbringing too, her mother was a power hungry and manipulative cunt.
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>>160161020
that was a seasonal re-run, doubtful that they do sequels to collab events
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>>160161010
Fate wouldn't exist. Majin Saber's ultimate goal is to kill Shirou before Kerry adopts him.
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>>160161014

Hiro stole my file.
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>>160161020
Only applies to seasonal for now. They could rerun old collabs, if they find themselves with nothing else or there is a Part 2 in the works.
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>>160161086
>>160161187
I'll even take false hope
At least give me that, anon ;_;
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is someone gonna bake
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>>160160692
Where's the translation you promised?
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>>160160865
With Tokiomi, Gil knew he was only playing along because he was Tokiomi's servant. The status between Gil and someone else influences the relationship drastically. The kids have no reason to fake praise for him, nor are they likely to know they should, so their praise can be seen as genuine, unlike if the one who summoned praises him. They have a reason to try to get on his good side through praise.

>>160160979
Those had other dynamics. What he expects from someone depends on who they are.
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>>160161282
Extella anon already shared the real spoilers ESL retard
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Where can I see Ataraxia's sex scenes with the dialogue?
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>>160161321
>Extella anon shared the real spoilers
>the real spoilers that read the same as this supposed ESL shit translation

Looks like an elementary lack of English comprehension is required to be not-ESL.
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>>160161386
in Ataraxia
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>>160161078
I'm not saying she had a sad upbringing, plenty servants have a sob backstory. I'm saying Arturia has monstrous work ethics which Iskandar feels is sad and tragic and Gilgamesh loves and faps to. She's not monstrous because she has a dragon core or a lot of magical items. Lancelot, Kay, etc admired (and were scared) of how selfless and absolute she was in giving herself to others. Lancelot called her a monster who knows no happiness but she loves human's happiness. Kay winced and shivered in thinking about how she pushed herself into an existence toward others. She wasn't just chosen because Merlin liked her, but because Arturia herself pushed all limits and tried her best without thinking ever about her own happiness. She wanted to reinvent herself as an ideal, something conceptual. That's why the holy sword bonds with her. In FSN and GoA, both have emphasis how Excalibur and Artoria have some kind of soul-bond. Shirou says so: "the sword and the girl are one." You're trying to make it think they are apart when the connection is deeper than the shit Gil collected and put in his gate.

While in case of Bedivere, just bearing a bit of it burdens him, burns him, body and soul. Because he's well, human.
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>>160161386
Hallow Ataraxia, dumb secondary.
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>>160161394
>one dropship and three dropships are the same

nice try ESL retard
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>>160161449
>>160161426
Too lazy to play senpai :(
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>>160161517
Return to reddit please.
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>>160161394
Except that they're completely different? Are you literally retarded?
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>>160161464
>>160161615
Point out where in >>160160597 you can find any mention of dropships, retards. How is English your mother language if you have literally retarded reading comprehension?
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>>160161517
just hold control until you stumble upon them
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>>160161817
nice try melvin but same source as >>160160775
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>>160161817
Retard got confused because of
>>160160848
>>160160692
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>>160161817
I never mentioned dropships, dumbfuck.

>Wandering star
>lives and structures
>spiritron information
>goldilocks blackface
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>>160161893
That's not what I quoted. Now show me where in the translation I quoted are these supposed contradictions or mistranslated parts.
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>>160159682
Are you illiterate or something? The discussions regarding Nero wasn't about power levels, but her shoved into the central role. Nobody mentioned they thought she was doing those things only with her own power.
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Haven't played for months, surprised that Achah has a new sprite which is really cool. And the stamina overflows now like sif. Has Kouhai's voice been change to her now?
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>>160161971
>same shit source
>but it's not what i quoted so its valid :^)

no
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>>160161967
>they use a different translation for terminology
>ESL SHIT LELELELEL

That the best you can do?
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>>160162083
That isn't terminology you ESL retard, what the fuck kind of shitty niggerhole do you come from where comet can be called "wandering planet"?
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>>160162162
>游星 is comet

What type of fucking retard do you have to be to translate 游星 as comet?
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>>160162304
go away melvin
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How did Nero channeled the power of Venus again?
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>>160162381
No, really. Show me a Japanese source that uses 游星 to refer to a comet instead of a planet. I'm waiting.
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>>160162403
Roman emperor, Roman god.
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>>160162403
With the Sword of Mars.
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>>160162403
Ceasar is descendant of Venus.
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>>160162431
>what is contexts
遊星 just means planet/star with no further definition
Velber is further defined as a 箒星/comet in the game
Wandering planet is retarded EOP shit made up by an idiot who put the individual kanji into an online dictionary

retard
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>one ring for the true king

Heroic spirit bilbo ballbags when?

Also did takeuchi made what her name draw artoria in atiila's cloth because he need all the saber to be saber face?
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>>160162773
>Tolkien trash
He's a bigger hack than Nasu.
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>>160162765
>Planet = comet

Yeah, go take an astronomy class.
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>>160162773
Caster HP Lovecraft when
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Has Extella mats been scanned yet
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>>160162732
>Venus is the embodiment of beauty
>she turns out to be a Saberface
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>>160159497
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>>160161090
What really?
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>>160162898
He's aready there, but is called Gilles de Rais for some reason
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>>160162931
>>160162864
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>>160162765
http://www.bibleandscience.com/bible/books/genesis/genesis1_wanderingstars.htm

Read up, EOP.
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>>160162854
>>160162765
In Japanese, there is no distinction between planet and star. That's why Earth is constantly referred to as a star in Japanese media. In Type Moon context you can look at Excalibur's description - 星の内海で鍛えられた神造兵装

遊星 is probably just a reference to The Thing though, the Japanese title of that is 遊星からの物体X.
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>>160163004
Oh and of course in The Thing this 遊星 is actually an alien spacecraft so there's that.
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>>160163004
Fuck off JOP
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>>160163004
They should've just named it after Hellstar Remina.
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>>160163004
So when >>160149392 says "an amount of energy on the level of a star," are we certain it actually MEANS "star"?
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>>160162992
>Wahhhh my shitty online dictionary gave me nonsensical archaic words, they must be correct

ESL dumbfuck, learn English before trying to argue about the language.
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>>160163153
Well, Amaterasu is a sun goddess, so that would make sense contextually. What we don't really know is the precise meaning of "energy on the level of the star", which could be in reference to any number of things.
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>>160163153
Should mean sun right?
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>>160163153
Yeah, they use 恒星, which refers to an actual star.
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Baking
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>>160157098
Funnily enough all the top tier swords look worse than the shit-tier ones minus Galatine and Boudica.
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>>160163276
Wouldn't that be something like 400 trillion watts?
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>>160163176
>EOP trying to argue translations

kek
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>>160163153
Depends on what you mean by star.

In Japanese, all planets are stars. Comets are stars. Suns are stars. Satellites like the moon are stars.

That being said the Sefar thing is clear from the context, it's referring to Amaterasu = the sun.

Can't comment on the accuracy of the translation as I don't have the book with me, but I could've sworn that it said that Sefar's power could be COMPARABLE to the sun's (匹敵する), not that it could "reach and surpass". I vaguely remember seeing that and thinking "but Amaterasu is nearly 25% more though".

Also someone higher up said something about Sefar being able to grow exponentially but IIRC the Material says 1024 is her limit.
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>>160163372
Voila:

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>>160163441
The last part about reach and surpass isn't in the actual text, just the translator's commentary.

The text itself doesn't compare Sefar's power to the sun, it just mentions her power level, and then gives Konjiki's power for reference.
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>>160163652
I do recall seeing text somewhere saying that her power's comparable to that of a star (星, not 恒星) but can't recall where it was. Maybe it was in the game.
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>>160163652
>The last part about reach and surpass isn't in the actual text, just the translator's commentary.
This is how big misunderstandings happen
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