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Classic OP pic edition.

(Looted) thread: >>159810701

READ THE PASTEBIN BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS.

LATEST BANNERLORD INFO/VIDEOS:

Gamescom Siege video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv2qb66PbUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rq-fEc1N0I

Interviews with Armagan at Gamescom '16:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZcBAGtXvpk

Last blog:
https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/16

OLDER BANNERLORD INFO/VIDEOS: See Pastebin

PASTEBIN: http://pastebin.com/HPJiGhg0

M&B Wiki: http://mountandblade.wikia.com/wiki/Mount_and_Blade_Wiki

NOOB GUIDE: http://imgur.com/a/FMAqV

M&B VERSION ARCHIVES
>ftp://ftp.taleworlds.com/

>Anon's mods and upstab guide:
http://pastebin.com/agwZu9Df
>/mbg/ Steamgroup
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/mountandbladevg

Module recommendations:
>Undead Calradia
http://www.moddb.com/mods/undead-calradia
>Gekonewer
https://mega.nz/#F!itxViDAT!PhBfJWsjATkdqN28V2kZ5g
>Dickplomacy 4.3.0.7b
https://mega.nz/#!o5g3nAiY!Mv1fVljpCfCWykQW-fTqycWvq4zQ-5aRuTxUpMsN_F8

>"I made a mod recently or updated it. Wat do?"
Link to the OP in your post so that it might be easier to find for the one making the next OP (also for regular people).
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>>160024960
The fuck was that? How do I am become death too?
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>>160025089
think it's some modded item in Blood&Gold

also 2nd
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>>160023970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iQLNR9btr4
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Doggolord when?
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>>160025615
I don't know what the acceptable way of expressing amusement is these days.
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Is England good in 1257, I have a thing for longbows.
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>>160025240
nth for daily remember that the crusades are ultimately just a ebin meme that failed big time
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does anyone still have that strawpoll link that shows /mbg/ age demographics?
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>>160027954
never forget
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>>160027849
its probably the stronkest
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>>160028097
how about we make a new one
http://www.strawpoll.me/11635698
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Anyone playing Nova Aetas v4? It crashed on me when I tried to enter battle. I guess I better stick with 3.02
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>>160028825
>Anyone playing Nova Aetas
No
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HEY GINGE WILL BANNERLORD HAVE WAIFUS?
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>>160028237
Don't lie /mbg/, i know we have atleast 4-5 underages posting in this thread
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>>160027954
the 4th one didn't :^)
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>>160029039
Maybe they're intimidated by having to call themselves fgts if they pick that option
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>>160028237
those retarded ass ranges
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>>160029039
We don't even have 4-5 humans posting in this thread
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>>160027849
england's just a generic euro faction in 1257 unfortunately (which i guess is kind of accurate for the period)
wales is the longbow power but their infantry is garbage
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>swords in PloP aren't going to look like they're from 2002 anymore
thank god
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>>160030069
w-what are they then?
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>>160030259
Where are the swords that don't look like they're from 2002?
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>>160030259
I kind of liked it though, they looked like Halloween costume props.
Hell, 90% of equipment in that mod looked like Halloween costumes
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>>160030369
the ones below the shit ones that actually look good?
not even a fan of PooP but if there's good shit to rip then great
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>>160030490
You mean the ones that look like they're from 2002?
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>>160030528
epin
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>>160027954
Northern Crusades were fun, kinda cold though.
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>>160024583
>sand niggers and mongols in every game
Why? Can't we just have a game with several tribes of Germanic barbarians wrecking each others' shit?
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>>160030687
>not wanting variety
Just go play Brytenwalda or something, faggot
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>>160030858
Which mod pleases Tengri the most?
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>>160030687
harder to have obvious troop differences for unimaginative plebs like >>160030858
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PoP 3.8 when
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Improved age poll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/11636169
http://www.strawpoll.me/11636169
http://www.strawpoll.me/11636169
http://www.strawpoll.me/11636169
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>>160030981
Maybe 1257, not sure. There isn't really a good one.

Hyper war mod when
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>>160030303
you dont want to know
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>>160030687
>in every game

explain
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>>160027954
delete this
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>>160031259
I'd like 1257 more for being a Mongol if instead of making a manor you made a Mongol/steppe camp instead.
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>>160032895
>you will never witness the mass extermination of Christians, Jews and Muslims in your lifetime
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>>160033074
at least you can order those to defend your fiefs
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Any of you guys being playing Tiger Knight? It's pretty fun and a good Three Kingdoms mod
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>>160033378
Yes my fellow chink shill, I'm also playing Empire War: Tiger Knight™ ! :)
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>>160033378
Don't forget to also buy Skyrim: Special Edition™
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>>160033479
>>160033563
>Ask a question
>Get sarcastic answers
Wew
))))
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>>160033647
why would i play a ripoff of mountain blade when i can play the original mountain blade baka desu senpai
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>>160033836
Seems like an interesting amalgamation of Dynasty Warriors and M&B.
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>>160033563
TES mountain blade mod when?
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>>160033950
but i'm also not interested in chink dynasty history
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>>160033836
>why would i play an upgraded version of mountain blade with better graphics and interesting new gameplay mechanics when i can play the original shitty ps2 tier mountain blade baka desu senpai

ftfy poor toasterfag
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>>160034085
>upgraded version

lol

>interesting new gameplay mechanics

LOL
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What the fuck happened to this general
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>>160034303
Bannerlord
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>>160034303
No Bannerlord.
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>>160034207
>i can't refute any of his point so let's just reply with memes, that'll show him!
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>>160034085
>interesting new gameplay mechanics

only interesting thing is being able to charge into your own teammates trying to execute enemies, kek
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>>160034519
>i'll just say it's an upgraded version but won't list any upgrades, so he'll believe that it's actually a good game!
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I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the original Cao Cao poster until we get a good Romance of the three kingdoms mod.
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>>160034303
>LATEST BANNERLORD INFO/VIDEOS
>still nearly 4 months old
That's what happened.
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D E A D
E
A
D
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>>160037692
>bumping on page 8
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>>160034303
We're just back to our usual shape.
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>>160038146
I'm still surprised to see people asking that over and over again. Thread's been dead every time there's no new content/shitposters
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out of vanilla scenes desert ones are some of the best
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Imagine waking up in the morning and finding out that there's no mountain blade general in /vg/ catalog
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>>160038843
Might have to do with the fact that the desert region was added in Warband

Bandit lairs weren't in M&B but still could be the assets or whatever
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>>160038965
I'll just make a new thread then
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>>160038843
too bad battle scenes are randomly generated in native
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>>160038965
I'd thank G*d that it's finally over and I don't have to read your shitty posts any longer.
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>>160039165
But that's great though..
Having to fight in a same terrain again and again would get boring real fast
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>you will never have a pure steppe waifu

Why even live?
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>>160038243
I think they just weren't around, aka newfruits, or a bunch of people with amnesia, don't know.
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>>160039297
no? native battle scenes are garbage because they're randomly generated, the hill shit is a great example
and even then the random generation doesn't add anything interesting at all since it's just land and trees
rather have unique battle scenes with bridges and buildings
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I want to go full WALL mode, what mods have tower shields? Not board shields, a metal shield as tall as the player and as wide as Isolla's ass?
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>>160041140
Any mod with big shields will become that if you have shield 7+
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>>160030675
Not as much fun as the Dark Crusade
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>>160030981
There's like 0 good Rome mods so 1257 might be your best bet with the ILL Khanate
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>>160034948
I'm posting Liu Bei in honour of the poster who was posting in honor of the original Liu Bei poster until we get a new and improved Dynasty Warriors mod.
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>>160041140
I think Lannister troops in ACOK and TLF Gondorians get tower shields.

TLD is the better mod by far.
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>trying to overhaul warsword conquest and replace all overly bulky/heavy items with thin sleek ones
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>>160039358
You and I know damn well your 'pure' steppe waifu knows what horse semen tastes like.
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>>160030687
Why don't you just play go play Attila ?
I think part of the appeal in Mount & Blade is to be able to wreck not-mongols with not-swiss
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>>160039358
My goal in life is to meet a nice Hmong or Alanian (now Ossetian) girl.
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>>160046014
LTD? Gondorians? This some LoTR mod? If so, ACoK is better
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>>160049182
>ACoK is better
no
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>>160046094
Why are you playing the warhammer mod if you don't like bulky armor
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>>160050403
It is though, no gay shit like elves, dwarves, and hobbits.
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Friendly reminder that Vaegir metal is best metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2WDjWmJKhY
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>>160041140
D-Does Isolla have a wide ass?
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>>160051067
instead it's filled with gay sex
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>tfw cant stop savescumming
>tfw keep deleting my saves and starting over because I savescum
help
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>>160053806
just select realistic saving
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>>160053806
start new save
do 10 pushups if you savescum once
do another 20 pushups if you savescum a second time
...
do another n x 10 pushups if you savescum an nth time
...

then git gud
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>>160052153
Well she is Swadian, so all that BUTTer has to go somewhere.
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>>160052153
Isolla is for sticking my dirty unwashed sarranid BBC into her mouth
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What mods let you play with some Warcaft-tier gigantic armours other than Warsword?

Also, is there some sort of way to exclude specific items/textures from mods? (For example, a Bardiche, or an elephant mount and such)
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>>160053969
Did that.

Ended up with copying the actual save folder..

Not him btw.
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>>160039358
>steppe waifu
>pure
You do understand the implications of a nomadic society?
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>>160059397

Reminds me of something I saw on /h/ the other day...
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>>160058310
I think War in the world of Magic has that kind of item.
I you want a weapon to not show in the game anymore just remove it, using Morgh's editor from all the soldier's equipment in wich it is. And if it has the tag that makes it show up in merchants untag it
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>>160059397
that's the point dingus, it makes finding one that's PURE all the more valuable

just like finding any PURE gril irl who hasn't gotten blacked already
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>>160059840
Does Morgh's editor work with mods and such as well?
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>>160059726
Oh, you can't just say that without telling us what you've found anon..
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>want to ride armored horses
>have to waste a bunch of points on agl to get one the one point I need for it.
fugging fug
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>>160063993
it's worth it m8

unarmored horses are literally pleb-tier
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>>160051067
>forced settings is better
>muh empowered wymyn is better
>totally not gay despite having openly gay characters

whatever you say dawg
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>>160064325
>tfw have taken to min-maxing character creation to make sure I dont have to put any points in worst stat (AGL) rather than just doing it the RP way.
I have become a pleb.

The only good non-armored horse is a spriated courser
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1257 has the most atmospheric battles
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>>160066610
>The only good non-armored horse is a spriated courser

Enjoy getting unmounted

t. 30 AGI with 10 Riding
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>>160061820

>>>/h/4433521
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>>160067384
d-delete this
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>Yaroglek gives me Dhimir
>three days later getting sieged by nords
>a week later getting sieged by swadians
>a week later by the horsefuckers
at least the money is good
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>>160066736
>butyric acid
this is a good meme
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>9
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wots da difference between Gekonewer and Gekokujo 3.1?
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>>160024583
Is it just me or is this new map extremely similar to the Pendor world map?
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>tfw got renown 666

satan pls
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>>160072383
or....you know....the warband map
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>>160072383
Not really, although I think I know why you are thinking this: Flip the map vertically the Ravenstern / Yellow Kingdom are pretty similar geographically.
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>>160028237
>>160029789
an underage made that retard poll
jesus christ
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>>160076751
This looks like a flipped Westeros minus Riverlands.
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real, final poll

http://www.strawpoll.me/11640137
http://www.strawpoll.me/11640137
http://www.strawpoll.me/11640137
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>>160077280
As long as i want underages to be banned, i still think we should put an actual number/range on the poll (<18 or 15-18 or whatevs) instead of something like
"lol underage fgt b&"
We can't get an accurate number if they got discouraged
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So whatever happened to the prima nocta poster? I'm pretty sure they've not posted for a couple of threads.
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>>160078616

Too busy fucking, or fucked to death, most likely
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>>160066706
Has upstab anon updated his ad 1257 already?
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>>160079659
maybe once i can figure out how to rebind the formation keys
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>>160077879
>being this obvious
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>>160079737
why, they're perfect?
all above WASD
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>>160081138
the advanced formation keys, because they overlap with the WFAS ones
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>>160079659
that's one wide-ass helmet
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>>160081525
BotN overpad their gear for obvious reasons
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>be faction lord NPC
>finally get chosen to be marshall in election
>this is it
>oh_boy_we_gunna_siege_sum_shit.avi
>no lords come to your aid
>not even that new foreigner lord that's miles more competent in combat than anyone else
>you cancel the marshall
>your shitty castle (whose village was taken by that new foreigner lord on their vassalage) gets raided
>nobody even rescues your daughter from bandits

sometimes I feel bad for not showing up, but fuck it I'm not going across the map to watch some faggot lord sit in waiting mode until he gets bored and cancel again anyways
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>>160077280
stupid poll

obviously it's going to concentrate around the 18-25 range, why keep it so spaced out?

Add more increments of two, something like this:

<18
18-20
21-22
23-24
25-26
27-28
29-30
30+

These are the most accurate and representation selection pool for our demographic: young adult virgin male
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>mfw capture Constantinople, unify roman empire
>mfw my fucking cunt of a an emperor decides to gift it so some other cunt
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>>160082379
cry no more for me.

i figured i could just put 9 of my 15 available skill points into persuasion and sway the other lords to support me.
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>>160083037
Isn't Constantinople defended with 1200+ troops? Good job anon.
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>>160071941
>her
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>>160082263
no need
there's teenagers
then there's college kids who think they're not teenagers but are
then the college grads or workforce who at this point probably pay their own bills or have some degree of responsibility
then the old people

neets do not apply; no reason to get any more specific with the age groups
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>>160079659
the delegates, dahnald
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>>160083198
Troop numbers were in the low 900's.
Many brave men were lost in the retaking of the city but their names will forever be remembered.


Baltic Mercenary Spearman #1
Baltic Mercenary Spearman #2....
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>co-op, when its confirmed to not exist
>no butter, when we know butter will exist

Dotards?
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>>160079659
>>160083385
now czar dahnald, my delegates if you please
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>>160083693
I appreciate your work. Thank you for taking the time.
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>>160083693
>>160079659
>I'm the Juggernaut bitch.jpg
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troop rebalancing in 1257; on or off?
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>>160084264
off if you're playing upstab anon's submod
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>>160083693
>>160079659
>I'm the Juggernaut bitch.jpg
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>>160084286
i think im using it.. not entirely sure.
folder is called "1257_modded" and the readme in it says to disable the troop rebalancing but it doesn't say why it is to be disabled.
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>>160083503
>when its confirmed to not exist
didn't they say it was still up in the air the last time they mentioned it, or has there been other news?
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>>160063190
the day when looters must win
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>>160066706
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>>160084586
They said no co-op and people got mad.
Six months later they said no co-op, and people got mad again.
Some time later they said they don't know how to introduce co-op properly, that each player will wait 20 minute battles to play out for someone else, its a bad idea, no co-op. and people got mad.
Then at some games con they said no co-op and people got very upset.
So the last time they were asked they said "we don't know, we are considering things" and people got HYPED AS FUCK CO-OP CONFIRMED.

Also each time it was denied it was the devs denying it, and when it was "confirmed" it was the irish guy who posts on social media.
I think its self to assume they won't actually have co-op.
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>>160085138
The way I see it is that the game would have to be built around the concept.

Currently in mb, armies can engage each other on the world map. Unless one of those armies includes the player character, time will keep passing. They could do a bunch of stuff to make the times more manageable like spawning each force closer to each other (most of the time is probably spent traversing the battle map), or increasing the combat speed (would have to be sanic fast).

It's far easier just to stick with the system as is. Maybe they could do a party system where the lead is commander and the members assume control of the troops. Maybe fighting like this could send funds or loot to your characters, to be picked up next time you log in.

It's possible, and I like playing with the idea, but I don't fault them for not developing it. Not every game needs co-op.
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>>160086267
The only way co-op would work without breaking the game is if the host is in control of the strategic map, and all the other players are his companions, and only get to act on the tactical maps (battlefields, cities, etc).
They should also be able to draw on the map, like arrows, circles, and there should obviously be text and voice chat and pings.
And I would prefer if the army is divided into troops, so that each player controls some guys. The host would give each player 10 archers, 10 spearmen for example. and that player would be in charge of them via the commands system.

I think this will not require any systems to be changed, other than the fight ending in a retreat when the player dies, since now there would be many players. I guess when one dies he'd get his camera free and be able to look around the battlefield as a ghost, fly up and enjoy a bird's eye view for example.

Of course this means that all players except the hose will not be able to enjoy systems like marriage, being the leader of a faction, building stuff in their fiefs, etc. They would just be advisers to the king, and his lieutenants in battle. This makes the idea very bad for "matchmaking" with random online people, but very good for prepade groups of friends. A long, dedicated game like M&B works best with people you already know anyways.
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>>160087679
/mbg/ Bannerlord session when
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>>160087953
>one guy fighting naked with just a spear, shield and helmet, roleplaying a holywood spartan
>one bearded viking in a dress called Kutiepie
>one stronk woman need no man aryan godess with a deep voice in the call
>the incompetent overthinking loud angry child as the commander
>gregor as the pro who keeps being last man standing and winning our fights
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How is Swedish Mayo? Is it worth downloading and playing?
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>>160088249
It would be fun tbqhwyf
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>>160088249
>/v/irgin rides straight at the enemy with no shield, die and complains that ranged is overpowered
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>>160088762
It's good m8. And yes, by all means try it.
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I'm bored.
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WHO /PEASANT/ HERE?

BLUE BLOODS AND BOURGEOIS GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY GENERAL
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>>160090263
>mfw peasants
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Somehow I keep thinking a cthulhu mythos kind of mod would be cool, even though the whole fun of the cm is that you can never win
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>>160088249
>guy with controller who complains when he gets chambered by random bandit

>finnish horse archer playing steppe throat singing down the mic
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>>160088762
its very fun but a lot of the assets are ugly as sin
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>play swedish mayo
>get this
pls help
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>>160090662
You've probably downloaded the incomplete version. Get
>Suvarnabhumi Mahayuth 1_16 PC
from the moddb page
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>>160090982
>average vaegir soldier
If that's the average vaegir soldier they must be rich as fuck because that armour is sexy
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>>160090982
>average vaegir soldier
>has a shield

Doesn't check out.
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>>160091405
stop propagating this shitty meme
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>>160091820
There's other, shittier memes though
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>>160092885
yeah, like swadians

pic not related
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dead general
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>>160094448
ur fecking ded
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>>160094462
come at me bro
me on the right
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reminder that graveth > other kings
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>>160094812
delet this
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I HAVE BEEN WAKEN
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Which faction is /mbg/ approved in Geko
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>>160094994
they're all the same famalamadingdong
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>>160094994
The European one
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>>160093006
Rhocuck memes are the worst
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>>160094994
There's little to no difference between factions troops wise, so I'd suggest to pick whichever sounds the coolest.
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>>160094994
UESUGI
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>>160072383
isn't it more similar to the original M&B one ?
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>>160094994
Oda
Shimazu
Takeda
Uesgei
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>>160094994
I like to base it off who I want my elites to be. Twohand sword = Date, polearms = Iggo Ikki, etc.
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daily reminder that acok is only good if you sucked a thousand dwarf cocks
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Fresh news fucking when?
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>>160102864
Summon The Ginge
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when can someone set up that Bannerlord mbg server?
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>>160104824
when bannerlord comes out
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Glorious nippon feasts
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What does /mbg/ think about drifters? I'm bored

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bWLYnLNfuw

i like how it could be surprisingly accurate at times despite how over the top it is. Like the part where that guy who murders the soldiers left and right in single combats got instantly shrekt the moment he decided to charge a proper pike formation
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>>160066706
>that atmosphere
__THICC__
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>>160107325
>Cutting off heads like nothing
>While they are charging on horse
>Multiple times
Yeah jumping onto spearmen is fucking stupid but the fact they aren't already running away is kinda silly
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>>160107325
What is it with animus and overpowered main characters?
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>>160094994
Oda and Uesugi for history. Ryuzoji Clan for best elite troop types.
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>>160108230
>Ryuzoji Clan for best elite troop types.
Which one is that?
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>>160107325
>Sympathetic to knife ear sub-humans scum
>Max edge
I wanted to like it but I just couldn't get into it
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when everyone dyin and your 80 armor chillin
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>>160094994
This is what really matters

>>160108230
This is me >>160108230 and I actually take that back. I thought that Ryuzoji clan had what would theoretically be my favorite elite troop combo: Ashigaru spearmen, Samurai Guard/Archer but I was wrong.

In fact NONE of the factions have this combo, WHAT THE FUCK.

Not fond of Ashigaru skirmishers as they can spawn with either bow or firearm, making their usage unpredictable (especially if you hold fire for archers). You are better off with non-faction troops (promoted peasants for example) if you want a firing squad.

Spearmen are actually surprisingly good in Gekokujo and you can Pike swarm Samurai with Ashigaru pretty well.

At high levels Bows > Guns, thus why Samurai archers.

I suppose Spearmen - Cavalry - Archer works well and covers all of my bases tactically as well. Which means Takeda, Hojo, and Otomo. Its a bit irritating that Gekokujo lacks mounted archery.
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>>160107982
It's not just an anime thing anon. it's just plot armor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsFeIVJfKsA

>>160108621
But anon, the elves here are just humble dirt poor farmers, they're not cunts like the other elves
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How the FUCK do you use lances in an arena during the tournament? There's hardly any room so you're forced to run in circles trying to get to the other guy. The only hope you have is cheating of getting them stuck on the walls (which always happens in tournaments).
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>>160109974
The shit in (some) animes is much more than the plot armor shown in that clip.

But yeah obviously it's not JUST animes.
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>>160110587
Lances are a joke in tournaments.
I just charge them with a cavalry axe and get them in 1 hit within the first seconds of the match.
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>>160110587
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>>160110587
If it is a horse scum FFA
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>>160109974
>...the elves here are just humble dirt poor farmers, they're not cunts
So they are useless

>>160110990
There is plot armor and then there is the absurdity of a sword cutting through metal armor. The latter is unforgivable.
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>>160111704
I'm fairly certain that has very little to do with plot armor and anyone in the GoT universe who wants to can cut through metal armor with a sword if they want to due to a lack of realism.
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>>160094794
>graveth
>rh*dock
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>>160109256
>skirmish spawning with bows or muskets
play Gekonewer lad, they did away with that.

Though IIRC ashigaru skirmishers are only armed with a bow.
Easy fix to re/add muskets through morgh's.
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More frequent updates my ass
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>>160112674
>ashigaru skirmishers are only armed with a bow
I would rather deal with some RNG than this heresy. Different factions have different ratios and in the end if I want firearm Ashigaru I can typically do alright with factions like Oda.
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>>160113212
Lad, what heresy and why deal with RNG? The script that phlpp added was to reflect how daimyos added/implemented teppou usage to their armies. Why rely on RNG then if you can specify yourself the actual number?
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>>160113212
rather have troops that have a 100% chance to spawn with a type of ranged weapon rather than randomized, that's fucking awful
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>>160112751
God, that lamellar armor is spiffy.
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>>160114174
They do have 100% chance of spawning with a ranged weapon. Its just a chance between Firearm or bow. This is not uncommon either -- Native has this for all troop types.

>>160114095
>what heresy
>ashigaru skirmishers are only armed with a bow
"Just use Morgh's" isn't really a valid argument when criticizing a mod.
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>>160114674
>Its just a chance between Firearm or bow.
that's the problem
>Native has this for all troop types.
for t2's maybe, but even then it's not like native is a good module to cite on troop balance
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>>160114674
Lad, what the bloody hell are you on about? Are you complaining about using a tool to change something you don't like or complaining about?

Or are you referring to changing something in a mod that you can change yourself if you don't like how they did it?
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>>160114790
http://mountandblade.wikia.com/wiki/Nord_Recruit

Even T1 has random weapon spread. You are the first one to mention anything of balance in this discussion. Native is a good reflection of what M&B's engine was designed for and is a good basis module for everything. Noobs that skip out on Native are the worst.
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>>160114854
>Lad, what the bloody hell are you on about?
>ashigaru skirmishers are only armed with a bow
The lack of reading comprehension is really startling. Do the letters need to glow with the words read aloud too?
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>>160115249
melee weapons are a whole different kettle of fish from ranged weapons
>Native is a good reflection of what M&B's engine was designed for and is a good basis module for everything.
babbies' first RTS isn't good
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>>160115414
http://mountandblade.wikia.com/wiki/Vaegir_Marksman
http://mountandblade.wikia.com/wiki/Sarranid_Master_Archer
http://mountandblade.wikia.com/wiki/Swadian_Sharpshooter

Melee is actually worst since it makes shield usage unreliable and can lead to troops prioritizing their sidearm over their primary.

>babbies' first RTS isn't good
>Native is a good reflection of what M&B's engine was designed
First "balance" and now "good." I never said either. Are you stupid?
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>>160115389
Hence the comment about changing that yourself with morgh's ya dolt.
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>>160115692
Well alright, I literally said "good" but the point is that I am talking about the game engine and not an analysis on the module as a whole.

That said on reflection -- I don't really know why "Native is good" is a negative statement either. Native is pretty snazzy and fuck you if you if you claim otherwise.
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>>160115692
>and can lead to troops prioritizing their sidearm over their primary.
not like this is a bad thing depending on situation, but i'm not saying troops should have the randomized gear selection nord recruits have, just that it's different than ranged
>Are you stupid?
are you? you're saying it's how M&B is designed to play
but it isn't because native is awful
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W-why is everyone so rude to each other
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>>160115859
>"Just use Morgh's" isn't really a valid argument when criticizing a mod.
This level of stupidity is uncharacteristic in /mbg/.
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>>160115976
>native is awful
now that's just crazy talk
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>>160116206
native is like playing age of empires with only unique units
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>>160115976
>not like this is a bad thing depending on situation, but i'm not saying troops should have the randomized gear selection nord recruits have, just that it's different than ranged
I gave multiple examples of randomized ranged weapons and further reinforced why randomized melee is actually worse, and the only comment you have is an irrelevant one that is actually false?

>are you? you're saying it's how M&B is designed to play. but it isn't because native is awful
You are literally stating that M&B was not designed around Native? Seriously?

>>160115990
Despite the head banging idiocy at least its discussion on M&B
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people are now starting to request dickplomacy be integrated in other mods. we did it /mbg/.
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>>160116417
>and further reinforced why randomized melee is actually worse
i said there's situations where it's better, ie sieges if you really need an example
>You are literally stating that M&B was not designed around Native? Seriously?
i'm saying native's shit
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>>160115990
S-Sorry
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>>160116653
>SD and MM refuse to do this
>other people patch adult content to PoP
>everyone witnesses their meltdown on reddit

/mbg/ ruins yet another autist, more at 11.
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>>160116959
>i'm saying native's the shit
Corrected the clear typo and agreed
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>>160117215
art's mint, module's shit
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>>160117314
art's mint, module's the shit
Doubly agreed
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>>160117549
>not even WFAS ranks
disgusting
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>>160117753
>WFaS
Nah

Formation mods are cute but they have their own share of problems. Especially evident for players that engage in jolly good melees.
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>>160118035
>metacritic
>i don't know what WFAS ranks are
can you go back to /v/ now
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>>160118184
I quickly looked for the rating on Steam and didn't actually appreciate that it was from Metacritic until now. Bit surprised that user ratings have increased so much since release.
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>>160118396
probably because WFAS isn't actually bad, it just shouldn't have been paid for what you get and people got assmad they couldn't steamroll the game anymore due to guns
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i save scum and im proud
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>>160118630
>I'm missing the main point of the game and I'm proud
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>>160118572
WFaS has many problems but I never considered that one of them. Native armor isn't that good against high tier troop projectiles and crossbows/archers are more accurate. If I can go melee in S.Mayo I don't see why others wouldn't be able to in WFaS.
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>>160118630
>I'm more casul than console plebs
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>>160114174
I am pretty sure that in gekonewer this isn't random but fixed, ottomo always have guns, while mori or some other red clan always have bows and etc
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>>160118630
Not like you even need to save scum once you've gained mass
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Should I give my lords castles, villages or cities?

Which should I keep for myself?
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>>160119560
It has less to do with Lords/You and more what type of Lords and what 3-5 fiefs do you want to keep for yourself.
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>>160119095
those were just the general problems
yeah the melee balance is pretty dumb i agree in vanilla
no idea why it's on its own client either, should've just been a warband module
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>>160119095
does smayo actually have upstab? I looted a pike and it didn't actually have that attack
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>>160118630
i save scum and i hate that i do it.

been doing 10 push-ups after every save-scum like that one anon suggested so at least i have some kind of punishment...
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>>160120356
I implemented it myself over a year ago. Its a real shame that upstab wasn't in original M&B from the get go.
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>>160120503
I need to start doing this again in all my games. You need to slowly amp up the push-ups. Move up to 20 already, then go 30 and so forth.
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>>160120539
>I implemented it myself over a year ago
is it hard to implement? I've never done any modding
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>>160121352
So long as you follow the upstab instructions it should work out fine. You will want to make a copy of the modified files; perhaps just make a temporary copy of the entire module even, as a precaution before making any modifications though.

I recommend modding a single weapon with upstab and then immediately testing it after making the necessary modifications. After you have proof of concept then apply it to all other spear weapons via Morghs.
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>>160119939
ok, thanks!
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>>160121982
Well, these are the two significant elements to keep in mind:

1) If the player owns too many fiefs you will start losing money due to tax inefficiency (especially if you have multiple garrisons)

2) If a castle/town lord betrays you, you lose all villages connected to that castle/town

So basically be picky about the fiefs you want for yourself before tax inefficiency becomes a thing (this varies based on mod and difficulty setting) and give loyal lords (honorable/good natured in particular) castle and town priority.

I find that castle income never matches the garrison upkeep cost and only ever bother with towns and villages for my own character. Note also that quality of Lord armies depends on their renown and income primarily -- And therefore if you want strong Lords you will give them fiefs.
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is it a good idea to capture a castle just for me to store all of my top-tier troops in it so i can train more top-tier troops?

my plan is to take this weak castle, use it as a kind of unit bank, and then once i have enough I will carve a path to an enemy town and take it over without worrying about losing too many troops
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>>160124275
I don't see the point unless you are creating different specialized armies -- Which shouldn't really be necessary for Native anyways. Having an anti-raiding Cavalry army and a siege infantry army example theoretically makes sense but with high path-finding you can just use your infantry army for everything.

In mods like PoP however I will have different elite armies ready for different specialized elite armies.

Otherwise elite troops tend to mediocre for passive garrison duty simply because you can typically give your garrison more auto-calc advantage by using lower tier troops. Aside from acting as a deterrent having a few more hundred mid-tier troops also means that you will not have a helpless tactical disadvantage if you do attempt to defend your castle/town in siege.
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>>160124275
Some mods let you create a secret base. Troops garrisoned there don't even get paid wages, so you can use it to abuse that strategy.
With castles it can work, but I find it somewhat harder to be able to keep hoarding top tiers while at war, and the numbers you'd need to take over and reasonably garrison a bunch of castles and a city are stupidly high.
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>>160025240
Deus vult!
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>>160124275
If its going to be your first castle in that save, by all means yes. I frequently do it myself to save on troop wages
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the one thing I really like about dickplomacy is the greatly enhanced command options in the menu that opens with backspace button, normally there is only a handful of orders but dickplomacy has them all there, which makes commanding troops much more convenient than any other mod
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So uh.. Dickplomacy or Native Improvements? Or can you merge both?
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>>160125767
you can just open those normally with the function keys though
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>>160115990

>why are people rude to each other on 4chan

Because 99% of the idiots who post here are contrarian, narcissistic sociopaths.
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How do I merge Dismemberment and Decapitation with Dickplomacy? I'm new to MB modding. Pls anons i must deus vult properly then take my wife after a long day of battle.
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>>160126240
There is nothing "contrarian" about stating the truth.
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>>160126509
l2use python
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>>160126082
its a pain in the ass though, going through all those menus, you can give orders much faster with the mouse
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>>160127081
once you get used to it it really doesn't take any time at all
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>>160109974
Jon was basically favored by the gods so I don't mind as much, in addition to his probably undead attributes.
I think a major takeaway is the movements of the anime (highly fluid and emphasized), vs jon who is off balance for like 90% of the fight. I dunno, he definitely has plot armor in a sense, but the fight was far closer to the chaos of an actual battle.
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>>160128917
reminder that we've actually seen jon train swordsmanship and i can't remember the last time i've seen an animu train a main character
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How can I remove this tree growing in the tent? in edit mode it can't be selected and it isn't in the object list.
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What does the icons in the score menu mean?

Red skull seems to be units lost/killed.

?Yellow broken shield?

Yellow flag would is probably routed enemies.

Green man are units currently alive in the field.

?Blue sword?

?Triangles?


Now if we look at the bottom we see "Play, Fast Forward and Skip" buttons.
Not sure what they will do.

There is also a white flag which presumably means retreat as well as a "X" button(or maybe they are crossed swords)
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>>160131861
>?Yellow broken shield?
Knocked unconscious
>?Blue sword?
Ennemies killed by that unit ?
>?Triangles?
Ready to upgrade
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>>160131861
>Yellow broken shield
Wounded?
>Triangles
Ready to upgrade?

Maybe skull/shield/flag are units of that type killed/wounded/routed and the sword is enemy units units of that type killed/wounded?
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>>160055754
I thought Kebabs weren't black tho.
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>>160131861
god, that screen looks like shit

it has the aesthetics of an xbox game, what the fuck
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>>160090314
YOU FOCKIN WOT M8? I'll BASH YE NOBLEMAN BASCINETS WITH ME FLAIL. YOU AIN'T NEVA SEEN HARVESTIN' LIKE DIS BE FO!
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>>160132496
Welcome to modern game UI design.
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>>160090319
Just make a depressing M&B mod with some strong maddening eldritch knowledge vibes...

And hide the actual mythos stuff away. Far away. In really tricky 'do, die of flee' situations.

>enter a crypt to steal gold from the dead
>find a crypt where some undead thing lives
>either you steal some golden chains that will buy you an army and run with a two week charisma debuff
>or you steal an alchemical tome from a lost golden age and run with a two week charisma debuff
>or you just run and dont get the debuff
>or you fight the monster... "fight" as in you are already dead
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>>160107325
I fucking love it. But I have been a Kouta Hirano fan since Hellsing came out so yeah.

>hitler get transported to the drifters world after killing himself in our world
>tries to recreate the third reich
>makes the same mistakes
>kills himself for the second time

Hahahahah.
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>>160107325
Haven't watched the anime yet but the manga is pure fun
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kek, I spotted Ymira on some hungergames thread
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>>160136047
unsurprisingly she won
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>>160136047
>Ymira strangles a plane after engaging in a fist fight
Sounds about right
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>>160136216
why do you use that ugly barbute? and alongside chink armour no less
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>>160136303
Ymira chose it for herself. As far as I am concerned a lady that can fist fight and strangle planes can wear whatever she damn well pleases.
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>>160136303
plebs that pick stats over aesthetics
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>playing ACOK
>lannister sellsword, army of about 120 longbowmen and subpar militia
>take the banefort
>rest easy, knowing that i can make a beautiful investment by spamming money into the iron bank and raiding northern caravans
>out of no where an entire battle armada of ironborn land three feet from the castle
>now have to defend against 2300 ironborn with like only 75 battle ready troops, most of which are just mid-tier militia
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>>160131414
in case anyone else ever has a similar problem, the solution is to modify the terrain code for the scene and remove some foliage/change the seed. I would say that I have finally merged PL and dickplomacy successfully but I haven't checked out the brothel scenes yet.
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>>160024583
KEEK, RAT

Oh wait wrong general. Is warsword good yet
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>>160142171
10
more
days
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>>160072361

pls respond
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>>160142171
>>>/vg/twg
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So in my Gekonewer all the lords have the same white guy face. All I did was take the download and plop it into modules, am I supposed to do something else? Is this normal?
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>>160143984
sounds like the save bug that happens if you save and exit then start a new game
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>>160072361
>Gekonewer
Shitty dumbed down easy mode version full of reddit-tier le random ebin memes
>Gekokujo
The true experience. Only for men of taste looking for a challenge
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>>160143371
>twg

No, /vtg/ ;_;7
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Any way to narrow down the location of an enemy king? I need to make peace, but this is my first time playing as a king myself and I'm not sure if I can ask people.
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africans are sinking into the ground
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what are the best drag & drop submods? stuff like
>upstab
>iboltax faces
>lolimod
>polished landscapes
>improved metal sounds
etc
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>>160144760
What's easier about it?
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>>160132347
But even then it's still BBC big brown cock
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>>160114095
this would be fine if they SPAWNED WITH THE PROPER SKILLS TO USE THAT WEAPON
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How good is the level 10 power draw companion composition?

I tried making them heavy cavalry but I got a bit bored of having to march them around and found it wasn't as helpful as I wanted.
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Is there any mod that lets me use my archers as some sort of area denial weapon? Like, using them as some sort of artillery, blindfiring, launching shots beyond the walls/hills, that sort of thing. Native archer AI seems to only shoot when they got a direct line of sight
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>>160148267
Melee companions as a whole are overrated as they will spawn at <100% HP. Furthermore they won't serve any unique utility compared to troops you can just hire. Even in Native Huscarls serve are more than sufficient as elite infantry and Swadian/Mamluks sufficient as heavy Cavalry. Especially since speed bonuses for cavalry marginalizes 10 power strike advantages anyways.

No weapon type scales as dramatically as bows with power draw. The difference is especially pronounced in Native where the strongest power draw is 5 among troops. (In contrast Huscarls have power strike 7...). You can give your power draw 10 companions strong two-handers/polearms to protect your archer line from flanking cavalry (by OHKOing both horse and rider). You can place them in unique positions that archer AI sometimes can't handle (especially notable in sieges).

And of course spawning at <100% health in a tough battle isn't really a big deal for an archer companion.
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>>160149160
One last thing: Companions have double the ammo capacity of troops since they can stack two-quivers.
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>>160148927
not really, AI only shoots when they can shoot
most you can do is command them to hold fire and volley with WFAS commands
>>160149265
or triple if you feel confident they won't get into melee
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how the FUCK are you supposed to siege Jelbegi Castle?

the one fucking ladder is angled in a way in such that you can't field archers in front of it while you're basically cornered in

am i just supposed to rush it with mass Huscarls/Sergeants or something?

fuck's sake
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What is it about the command system that makes it so unwieldy?
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>>160150504
not being able to select specific troops is a big issue i think
you can do nearby soldiers but it's only ones within a certain radius of you and it's easy to get men you don't want
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>>160149160
>>160149265
Thanks anon that was very informative
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>>160150504
I would love it if it operated like this:

Pressing a button puts you into command mode. Can't move in command mode but can look around.
You select units by clicking on them.
Shift-clicking a unit will select all units in the category or division.
Right-clicking directs them to move, similar to an RTS.
Clicking on a unit will list clickable options at the bottom of the screen, like how Total War does it. Each option also has hotkeys.
In difficulty options, you can choose to show the above buttons/past orders, or not (for advanced/realistic users).
Selecting stuff is based on your field of view, so if your troops go over a hill or go into heavy tree cover, you can't select them or give them orders.
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>>160150915
>Can't move in command mode but can look around

How are you supposed to fight in the front lines with your lads for maximum morale and glory then?
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>>160151086
maybe this can be an interesting mechanic
cha/str build characters get a morale boosting ability when leading the charge after levelling a certain points of CHA or STR, int bitches can access this command mode after leveling up a cetain point of INT, and so on..
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>>160151086
Give orders fast and exit out of the menu?
Back up, give order, close menu, go back in?
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>>160152332
>as opposed to just pressing a few keys while smashing skulls instead of flipping between interfaces

yeah nah
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>>160151470
This actually sounds intriguing.
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if my brothel is in Jelkala would it be a bad idea to join Swadia?
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>>160152783
>joining Swadia
Never a good idea
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>>160152419
Could keep some of the quick commands for autists like you
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>>160153778
>I'm the autist for preferring a fluid battle system of a pseudo-RTS

here's your reply
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>>160151470
some of this stuff is sort of in VC, since cha characters get a cheer thing that buffs morale, str ones get a berserk ability, can't remember the others
there's also a tactical mode view where the camera zooms out really far so you can see far away
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>>160153920
instead of a*

fuck
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>>160153920
>memorizing function key combinations isn't autistic

It's not like giving commands lets you move around while the function menu is open. Unless you're on a horse, you stop.
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>>160154723
>not being on a horse

okay you lost me

I thought this was MOUNT & Blade: Warband not Blade: Warband
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>>160154864
>Being on a horse
Being able to do basic function commands isn't a question of kit but competence.
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>>160154952
you win this time, Rhodok

because I too am a vassal of the glorious Rhodok Republic but charge with my horse and companion cavalry as the hammer to the sergeant/sharpshooter anvil
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>>160150915
It would be fine if the minimap had these options.
It would be great if the minimap didn't need a fucking mod to SHOW TOPOGRAPHY.
If I have to ride around and use an undocumented command to tell my archers to "stand on that hill", why can I tell them to attack the enemy army I can't even see?
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>>160155080
After the initial recon there is only one way to properly utilize horses
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>>160144832
I, too, remember /vtg/, anon.

RIP ;_;
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>>160159016
>rhodocked.com
>rhodok isn't the one doing the cucking
>lady doesn't look like isolla
>cucked man doesn't look like king harlaus
>BBC not just a rhodok sharpshooter wearing armor complete with the crossbow/board shield but no pants

doesn't even make sense desu
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>>160159016
>Sword sheathe
Clearly he had it coming
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- . -
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>>160162213
>you'll never be that knight
why even live
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>>160162213
what does your beds looks like /mbg/?
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>>160162557
Its on the floor and I push it up against the wall to give myself more room during the day.
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>>160162213
>>160162557
;_;
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>>160162557
a bed, what do you think you mong
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I hope Bannerlord is easier to mod than Warband.

I want to make a story based mod in an original setting
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>>160164885
>Original setting
Do you intend to create unique assets?
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>>160165586
no_
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I am eager to play an M&B with proper blood effects
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>too tired to continue playing m&b
>not tired enough to fall asleep
wat do
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anyone tried this mod?

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,296240.480.html

vikings n shit
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>>160167467
Lay in bed absently jerking off
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My Pussy is waiting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SayTCWttywU
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Night battles are pretty.
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friendly reminder
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>>160170274
>top tier
>blandia
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>>160169985
Man I don't even hate niggers but ghettotalk is just holy fucking shit kill yourselves tier
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>>160170479
>not wanting to serve OG Butterboi
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If I mark a troop as "mounted" but without a horse in Morghs Editor does the troop still contribute positively to the Party Speed?
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>>160172559
yes
supposedly this is the advantage of using hired blades and sarranid troops
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>>160137001
When you do can you upload your module?
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why doesn't dickplomacy have the better post-death battle camera system of Suvarnabhumi Mahayuth and the freelance enlist-in-your-army?
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>>160167467
Jerk it 3 times in quick succession and then think about clouds
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I stopped coming here four months ago. What has changed in Dickplomacy since then? Brothels were just being introduced before I left.
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>>160176074
It has a moddb page now, you can check it there
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>>160175646
becuz the guy who made it didnt include it
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>>160176576
why cant /mbg/ have its own HPM guy
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>>160176576
>becuz
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>that cavalry-man that dismounts at the beginning of every battle
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lads will we get the last day of the third age on bannerlord?
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Yes
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>>160180828
meant to tag you buddy
>>160180670
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>>160180828
>>160180897
fuck me I'm a gondorfag and that is sexy as shit

so much better than the black tabard in the current one
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>>160180941
Yep, they are
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>>160181116
how many units on screen can you get in bannerlord?
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>>160181164
I'm guessing 150, but i think we can edit the battle size, same with Warband.
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>>160025240
I'd deus her vult.
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>>160030303
Furries.
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Are cloaks still going to a stiff as rest of armour in bannerlord?
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>>160033984
I think I saw one a while back, but it got abandoned before release.
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What's the 1257 equivalent of looters?

That is to say; what are the trash parties I can bump up in size so I can hunt fifty in one fight instead of having to search for ten different parties of five?
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>>160162213

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Full-Size-European-Great-Helmet/dp/B01132LALG/

Is this a good price /mbg/?
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>>160181760
How does one bump up the size of looter parties?
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>>160182218
TweakMB. While a lot of tweaks aren't compatible, I've yet to find a mod which doesn't let you fuck with party max size.

If you have the right starting build it saves a lot of time to just find one group of fifty looters.
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>>160181760
Oh, they have looters too.

Nevermind.
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>>160182329
It also lets you adjust ammo without fail, so if you want battles to have 100 reinforcement waves archers don't become useless after a short while.
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>tfw can't help but save scum every time
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Lads how do I win in last days of third age as gondor?

The Swan knight guy keeps asking me to go on suicidal campaigns with him and gandalf tells me to go see denethor but he just give me shit errands

I have like a dozen watchmen and axeman and some squires and I can't Fucking beat a few hundred orcs, especially when trolls 1 shots a few of my men and sends me flying
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>>160183318
Get Rangers, and try to survive. Help Rohan and other factions defeating their enemies so they can establish camps at South and help you out.


Cavalry and infantry are literal meme in TLD, seriously you can get only Ithilien Rangers.
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>>160183230
>tfw know this feel
>tfw get so proud of myself when I dont savescum
Only time I think savescuming is acceptable is when raiding villages since the AI can just piss off when someone gets close but you get stuck
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>>160183424
Shame about goblins being immune to arrows
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>>160184962
>goblins being immune to arrows

I was doing a Mirkwood Elves run and i single-handedly crushed Mt. Gundabad, Rhun, and Dol Guldur with only Mirkwood Archers, don't know what you are talking about.
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>minas tirith battle is literally just in front of the city

Why is it because the size of the battle?
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>>160185921
Are you talking about the Minas Tirith siege, or having a battle near Minas Tirith
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>>160186110
Siege
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>>160186286
Don't know, I never had Minis Tirith sieged lad.
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>>160185265
I am talking about archers ignoring the actual size of enemy when aiming for headshots
Unless there is enough of them that they can hit enemies further back archer NPCs are fucking worthless ad you have to shoot them yourself
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>>160186367
Wot I was 6 days in when 2 warhost walked past osgiliath and just besieged minas tirith
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>>160186367
I seen it being sieged by 2k+ army when playing as elves
Funfact: Battles under Minas Tirith are on literally flat ground
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>>160186490
>Unless there is enough of them

That's why I said you should only play with Archers, goyim :)
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>>160186616
I was talking about goblins
I seen 40+ archers missing a single goblin charging at them
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Why is it when I get attacked by like 500 orcs I only bring like 5 men to the battle with me instead of a few dozen of my Knights like when I'm attacking?
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>>160186841
It's a battle size feature, you can edit battle size to be, for example, 1000 to avoid this. Also your men at the top of your party will spawn.
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>>160186841
Do you have your highest priority men at the top of your party? It's not guaranteed to yield good results but it certainly helps.
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>>160186907
>>160186964
I have my battle size set at 150 and my 20 gondor swordsmen are always at the top with my gondor veteran squires

They show up like that when I'm attacking an enemy but when I'm being attacked I only get 5 gondor swordsman to spawn on my side
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>>160186841
Increase battlesize or get better tactics
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>>160180119
first thing you should order your cavalry when the battle starts is to "mount horses"
Seriously, that prevents them from dismounting.
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>mfw vlandia is both the swadian and rhodok's common ancestor, the 2 memest kingdoms
>mfw vlandia will have an absolute meme monopoly
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>>160190349
you're starting to make meme sound like it isn't a word anymore.
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>>160190740
>post a nsfw picture in a blue board
>get banned

wow really makes you think
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>>160190740
>>160190740
nothing personnel kid
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>>160190740
>/v/eddit shit getting banned
thank god
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Page 9
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>>160193165
jesus christ spoiler that heretical shit
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>>160181164
>>160181292
>I'm guessing 150
nigga what

have you even seen the videos

there's like 500+ in every battle
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>>160193374
No
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Page 9
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get ready page 10 chan
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>>160025240
Deus Vult
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How long are we gonna last, /mbg/? Food supplies and morale are both running dangerously low.
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>>160195907
Well that's pretty.
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>>160198838
What is ded may never die, but rises again harder and stronger.
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>>160198838
dickplomacy update
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>>160199514
yo ho ho, I wanna be rapin' on the high seas.
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>>160199514
boats in native are a bad idea. NPCs won't sail in the actual ocean but they'll use their boats to cross rivers which completely nullifies the chokepoint bridges that give rivers a reason to exist.
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>>160200117
is there a way to change that?
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>>160201198
doubt it, I think NPCs will always use the shortest path to the destination which would never include crossing the ocean on the Native map.
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>keep waiting years for bannerlord
>barely meet minimum specs
>tfw poor


Can wait for 20 unit battles
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>>160202190
>work hard to buy a gaming computer
>end up with a high end computer
>campaign map fps drops to 3 in fucking gekokujo
>never managed to fix this problem
Even on my low end 8 years old 2gb ram rock looking ass computer l managed to get like 24 fps on the campaign map while fast travelling and l can't find a fix to this so l'm just gonna cry
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About when is it a good point to conquer some town and form up your own kingdom? I have an 70-unit army of mostly high-tier troops. I can probably conquer a town myself but not sure I can hold on my own at everyday.
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>>160204171
some battles you win, some battles you lose

A good time to start your own kingdom would be when you have around 700 renown and enough int stats in your group (have your companions at around 7-8 in each int skill)

70 troops is enough, you get 100 party size for being a marshal and 20 if you have your own castle (castle and not town)

20 rtr should be enough
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>>160204171
It does also depend on the mod. A mod with a lot of factions will usually have a couple places where you can just conquer what is effectively a city state, put your troops in it, then run around buying up as many mercenaries and trash troops as you can as quickly as you can. Then you want to go back, put the trash troops in the city, take out your high level troops, and take whatever castle or city is remaining. If there aren't small factions, become good friends with a king, and wait for him to go to war with someone, and then try to rush the other faction. Swadia in native is a good thing to attack with this; they're usually getting their shit pushed in due to their central location, and if you take a city when they're defending on multiple fronts they won't have the manpower to pose a serious threat to you.
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>>160205576
This, if you can manage to attack someone at the right time they won't pose any threat, but keep in mind that at some time all of their lords will regroup to retake the fief you conquered, so make sure that you can defend against them (500 troops would be enough to defend, if you can make all of them into tier 3 foot soldiers you'll be gucci)
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>>160204171
right to rule above 20, high honour, and at least a 100 elite troops will ensure a good, safe start, anything less than this is doable but risky
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so i ve been reading vinland saga and it sucks, should i keep going?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/mountandblade/comments/5cwe62/rhodok_rambo/
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>>160208826
is it impossible for those faggots to be original

does everyone on reddit leech off of 4chan?

it wasn't even that funny
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>>160208826
Kingdom of Roddits
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>If you look at the art, it looks like the artist literally just mirrored half the art onto the other side. It's pretty cool actually
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>>160208826
>literally linking r*ddit
>this is acceptable now
jesus /mbg/ just how deep you've fallen?
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>>160208442
keep reading you fucking fag
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>>160209457
but it's terrible, Otoyomegatari is miles ahead
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>>160209667
>it's terrible
that might be because you're at the shit parts of the manga huh
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>>160210020
I don't remember vinland having a particularly shitty part though, even the farming arc is pretty comfy..
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>>160208442
I quit the moment I realised the main character was an overpowered edgelord kid
So probably like 5 pages in
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>>160208442
>anime crap
why did you start in the first place
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>>160210367
>overpowered
Not for long

Also, keep reading anon. He'll get better eventually
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>>160210314
The early stages were pretty shit, there was nothing but "hehe im the best nothing personnel uh l hate everyone"


>>160210367
>l know nothing about the manga but lets bash it
why
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>>160202190
>my processor is literally the minimum spec one
>no money to buy a new one
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>>160210367
"hello im manga character killing 50 ppl by myself but im a viking so history nerds think that dump writing is not usual mango shit"
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>>160211092
>samefagging in a mountain blade thread
Not like it's something we don't see in every thread but why did you even bother when you haven't even gotten to the farming arc ?
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>>160211014
Sorry more accurately it was probably like 50 pages
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>>160211014
But it got some cool fights, also Askeladd is pretty based. I'd just ignore Thorfinn and focus on Askeladd's shenanigans instead desu. He's pretty much the MC in the early arcs anyway, Thorfinn is just like a sidekick
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>>160211580
askelad is boring af m8
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>>160211580
Askeladd was a cunt but he still took care of thorfinn so that's pretty nice of him, but l wouldn't say he's based he's just your average mercenary, except he's not retarded like all the other vikings
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>you will never go back to those early days of VC
>playing multiplayer against AI
>organised cavalry charges at the sound of a horn
>tight, banner wielding shield walls, spears over the top
>all that fun, never to return
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>>160212701
Yeah, RIP.
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>>160212701
maybe if all the cunts here owned VC we could do viking invasion
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Time to undress page 10 chan
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>>160214291
but it's still page 7 you flaming faggot
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>>160215015
>responds 10 minutes later telling me that it's page 7
l'm one step ahead of you
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>>160076175
>Obama is moving to canada LOL!
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How to git gud at mortar in Napoleon?

I can never see where my damn shots go
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>>160024583
Should I get the first mount and blade for the single player mods, or just get warband and get this over with?
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>>160215773
read the goddamn pastebin
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>>160215773
warband is superior anon-kun
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Are either ACOK or AWOIAF worth playing yet?
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What are some OP as fuck builds?

I'm using my lance (which breaks pretty often) a sword and a shield. Should I get a throwing weapon or something too? Or maybe a big ass weapon like a 2 handed axe for when niggers porcupine my horse.
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WAKE UP THREAD
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>>160218675
hi
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Is there like a translated plain english list of what warwolf does? Right now im just playing with dickplomacy but later I want something more but I cant seem to find a list of features of Warwolf that makes sense.
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>>160218803
hi im anime


>>160218839
warwolf is pretty shit desu
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>>160219005
Alrighty. Any major content adding mod out there merged with dickplomacy?
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>>160219005
stupid normie
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>>160219005
Nice to meet you, anime-kun!
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>>160219156
l made some changes to dickplomacy a while ago, did it for one anon but l think he died or something.The changes mostly affect troop trees and add in new bandit types, it's not much but have fun (just drag and drop the stuff in your dickplomacy module folder, back it up first if you want to, you can use the female bandits for your brothels btw)
https://mega.nz/#F!b5tQlSKY!V_W_KTmeaVdDmloNd-RMDg

>>160219314
can you like stop being such a rudie

>>160219476
Hi
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>>160216815
I don't think there really are any sorta OP builds in M&B.
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>Playing Hispania 1200
>Actually surprised how awsoeme of a mod it is
>Incredibly immersive, historically and geographically accurate, medieval iberian music... you can see they put a lot of detail there
>Becoming the lord of the town i live IRL

It's an awsoeme feel to be honest
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>>160219575
>I don't think there really are any sorta OP builds in M&B.
stop
>>160219581
hispania's pretty nice but i got bored of it quick because it's like geko
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>fucking retard ally charges his 40ish troops into a stack of 140 HRE knights
>go with him because I was just called a bitch by the marshall because I lost a battle earlier
>we lose of course because it's 110 against 140
>horse dies too

Give me one good reason to keep playing.
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>>160219789
>hispania's pretty nice but i got bored of it quick because it's like geko

I can understand.
I think that the fact i love hispania so much is because i'm an iberian myself and since i know the locations IRL it triggers the immersion.

I think the Hispania 1200 mod was without a doubt targeted at the Spanish and Portuguese audience
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>>160219824
stop being fucking retarded and listening to the AI
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>>160220180
The ai is really fucking stupid. it actually has made sieges impossible because they just crowd the doors.

Would changing the AI in the settings fix this or just make the game harder?

Pls be gentle I know I'm bad
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>>160220119
i can see the appeal if you're from there definitely
though i'd still say the troop balance could be a lot better, considering the 5 christian kingdoms are completely identical and the emirate is only slightly different from them, not to mention the troops between the 5 christian kingdoms all have identical names, at least they could've named them differently and given them some gear that signifies they're from those kingdoms or something
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>>160220313
just fuck everyone in the ass by using cheap tactics :^)
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>>160220434
Such as?
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>>160203265

might depend on how many cores it uses with your cpu. Granted, warband isn't as old as, say, morrowind (which suffers from this) but one never knows.
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>>160220526
you have to find the cheap tactics yourself bc l don't know which mod you're using
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>>160220314
Yeah, i agree.
Historically wise there wasn't much difference among the christian military. I liked how they focused on light cavalry and archers with the almoravids.
Also, you can notice the difference in combat styles in the tournaments.
In the northern regions it's more focused on heavy cavalry and reckless charges while in the southern regions it's more horse-archer oriented.

Of course it's not brytenwalda but it's still a great mod
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>>160220720
ad 1257

I'm going to read a guide or something. I think I need to get better at making money.
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>>160220817
i'm not even saying the troop trees have to be vastly different, just maybe some of the lower kingdoms get longer jinete trees and shorter knight trees, vice versa for the higher kingdoms, maybe have exclusive units, make mercenaries in taverns from different regions in europe like VC does, and of course revised names for trees
i've considered looking into it but i just lost interest, from what i remember its main issues were what i've mentioned, it didn't have any sort of formations mod/AI that i can remember, and just minor english errors
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>>160221094
money is #1 in the game
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>>160221365
How do I get mad dosh? The best thing I seem to be able to do is deliver wine and beer and escort caravans.
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>>160219564

female bandits, you say? Well now, this certainly bears looking at.
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So uh... Any chance of anyone merging the decapitation and dismemberment mod with dickplomacy?
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>>160222738
pretty please?
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>>160222918
I uh.. I can be eternally grateful, a-and I-I could be your f-friend anon...
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>>160223052
I have a two way barn door.
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>>160223132
what do you mean by this
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>>160223189
It swings both ways.
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>>160223268
oh

well than no im not gonna merge the mods, repent sinner.
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>>160223317
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>>160222478
why would you even want that
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>>160223907
I like sex and I like violence?
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>Prophecy of Pendantics
>scrape together a kit and party
>merc for the Empire
>theyve been winning a war with DShar
>they peace as soon as I join them
>faff about rallying the support of the local villages
>war with Sarleon declared
>the marshal is an idiot
>the Sarleonese congeal into a deathstack and rip apart the border
>lose two castles
>the Empire marshal is replaced no less than six times
>each is less authoritative and competent than the last
>in an act of desperation, lead some noldor into Sarleon
>after kicking around some peasants, the noldor army follows a trade caravan directly to the Empire capital
>my prospective husband and the Imperator both get captured and dragged away by the enemy King
>two successive Snake Cult armies land
Is this how the Empire dies?
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>>160223317
What in Ragnar’s name did you just fucking say about me, you little Swadian? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Sargoth Axe Throwing Academy. I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Swadian land and I have over 300 confirmed rapes. I am trained in pillaging and I am the top axe thrower in the king’s shieldwall. You are nothing to me but just another peasant. I will murder you with savagery the likes of which has never been seen before on Calradia, mark my fucking runes. You think you can get away with saying shit like that to me over the internet? Think again, Swadian. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of Huscarls across Calradia and your fiefs are being scouted right now so you’d better prepare for the storm, peasant. The storm that wipes out your pathetic little thing your call your kingdom. You’re fucking dead, horse-user. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over 700 hundred ways and that’s just with my beard. Not only am I extensively trained in facial combat, but I have access to the entire Nord armory and I will use it to it’s full extent to wipe your miserable arse off of Calradia, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you. Maybe you would have held your fucking tongue, but you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot! I will shit throwing weapons all over you and you will drown in them. You are fucking dead, kiddo. I will drink from your skull!
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>>160223948
>Prophecy

IT'S PROPHESY, YOU CUNT. CREATION! VERB! PROPHESY!
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>>160222918
What is it you are seeking anon?
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>>160225025
Constantinople.
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>>160224902
Shut the fuck up, SD. Kill yourself and stream it already, you autistic faggot.
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>>160223948
>convince the remaining lords with intact armies to follow me
>ride hard for one of our border castles
>bleed hard in attempting to take it, because an occupying lord brought a company of Knight Order Brand Knights with him, of the archer variety
>troops get mulched, then cant press through the halberds on the wall because SINGLE LADDER PRO
>on attempt number three
>Marius is released from prison, declares peace shortly after
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>mfw it's the current year and bannerlord is STILL not out
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>>160226241
it's simple anon, raid peasants and caravans to incite a war, you're a merc after all, who cares about chivalry. you get good pay as long as you keep existing
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>>160228647
I'm less inclined to return to a constant (rather than near-constant) state of fearing for my safety, as the siege battle illustrated to me the crushing reality of how ineffectual non-Elite armies are.
I think I'm going to try and go back to the tournament grind, build up my dyeworks company, so I have adequate incomes to support such an army.
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>>160228948
fair enough, but will you go back to being a merc with an elite army or perhaps strike out on your own?
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How do you attack camps in last days of third age?

when i approach i only get option to sneak in
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>>160229046
I need a faction behind me: if I go independent, I'll need a faction's worth of friendly lords. There's not a lot I can do against the spawn armies solo, not without having noldor troops or the benefits of an ample supply of qualis gems.
The only ones I feel comfortable fighting are the peasant revolts, and even then, I need to bring at least one friendly lord to the fight to make sure I spawn with more than 10 troops (even at 5+2 tactics)

I'll merc it up until I befriend enough lords, by both ends of the sword, to survive independently. Once the ball gets rolling, there are a lot of landable companions that bring special army comps with them, so there's that to look forward to.

>>160229491
Has the war started yet?
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>>160229631
im sure since its a mordor camp and i've been killing mordor war hosts and prisoner trains for a bit now as gondor
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>>160227145
still angry about these turk fucks
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>>160229631
i guess

have you tried marrying into power
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>>160230742
I will as soon as I may
It's the next priority after establishing all of my investment properties.
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>>160230862
cool beans dude, good luck on your conquest of the dye market.
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To Upstab Anon:

I've gotten started with your modded Tocan's, and I noticed that the cheatmenu only lists items up to #659, while in Morgh's it goes to #1010. I take it this is a problem with adding new items to an already-compiled module? Is there no way to fix it without the source files?
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>>160231941
Thanks mango

>final round of Janos tournament
>me versus the elven assassin
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>>160232032
>I take it this is a problem with adding new items to an already-compiled module?
yep
>Is there no way to fix it without the source files?
not as far as i'm aware
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>>160232335
believe in urself buddy
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>the noble titles in 1257 ad

Did they really have to go full autismo with them? did they really have to use something like "Jan KZWIOSOF CK FGIU HAGATGHJS" instead of "Jan lord of X", I cant distinguish any lord from each other. God bless tweakbro for changing unit and faction names to english.
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You have a choice /mbg/. Bannerlord can be released, but SaxonDragon takes over as TaleWorlds CEO and makes PoP the base game. The modding tools and original Native source are leaked, but SD and co throw a bitch fit if anybody makes mods and they're banned from the mainstream sites. Same goes for Warband and original M&B; mods are pulled from mainstream sites and PoP becomes Native. Or Bannerlord is cancelled and SD fades into obscurity. What do you choose?
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>>160233760
I choose nothing because you're retarded and your post is retarded, SD .
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Fringe benefit of PoP's inflated madness:
Many prisoners fetch a damn good bit of money.

I will buy my dyeworks with the blood of heretic magnates.
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I'm really concerned that they aren't even able to release a rough EA version of the game this year. I mean, how much of what they've shown so far is actually working in the game and not some heavily scripted scenario where nothing else works?

You'd think if that what has been shown so far is actually somewhat working in the game itself it wouldn't be so impossible for them to release the EA version or smth
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>>160234998
>he missed ginge confirming that something coming out this year isn't gonna happen anymore
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>>160234998
But some form of alpha/early access DO exists anon. For some reason TW only allows russian testers to play it though..
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reminder that MP will be first
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>raiding a caravan reduces honor AND right to rule
>twice
Saxon Dragon, your autism is showing.
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Why are the formations in PoP such shit?

I would appreciate two things. Two easy, simple things.
>archers stand where I tell them to
>infantry attack people that come into range
These should not be difficult or strange concepts in a game like this.

If I put archers on the back of a rise, and infantry on the front of it, I should not look back a minute later to find the archers scattered across the whole damn hill, and the infantry blithely staring at the cavalry trying to push through their ranks.
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>>160237309
why are formations in general just shit?

>attempt to form shieldwall
>get a fucking mess of people who do and who don't have shields, nothing about it looks like a wall

and besides, you never get enough time to actually create formations, which is kinda shitty especially in later stages when heavy shock cavalry is literally like bringing a gun to a butterknife fight
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>>160235840
I literally said that the game won't release in any shape or form this year. Which is concerning because if you look at the recent videos, it seems that most of the mechanis are in place, but they won't release an EA version which means they don't seem to be working at all.

The videos were probably just a part of a heavily scripted scenario and aren't in a state where they can happen when you play the game.

If they want to release the MP version first this further reassures my conclusion.
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>>160237752
>If they want to release the MP version first this further reassures my conclusion.
well obviously MP is easier to get working than SP in a game like m&b, it's easy to see why they would have that ready to play first
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>>160237309
i don't use formations for archers since it's pointless
>I should not look back a minute later to find the archers scattered across the whole damn hill
this is why i like WFAS ranks, since formations don't do anything for archers i can put them in ranks and it works effectively
>>160237707
what mod are you playing where that happens
in 1257 as long as i have enough spearmen they'll always make a shieldwall, if i don't they go all spread out but that's just because there isn't enough men with shields to take the front line, so i just form square instead since it's functionally similar
>and besides, you never get enough time to actually create formations
blame that on native's shitty tiny map generation
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>only a fraction of legionaires get pilae
Is this some kind of fucking joke
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>>160239124
engine limitations
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>>160223948
>my prospective husband
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>>160243495
at least we colonized the caribbean
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>>160241724
>M&B pulls from the top of the list rather than providing balanced troop deployments
>this means PoP's massive armies always shit out hundreds of DOUBLE ELITE HEAVY CAVALRY SO HARDLORE MY MAN
>formations of halbrediers get assfucked by lances and bad combat AI
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>marry lord dinkleburg of the Baccus dinkleburgs
>instigate against DShar by taking tolls and peasant bread
>dodge their sovereign, siege a castle with a carefully assembled team of top men
>take it
>am awarded it
>rinse-repeat with the castle next door
>establish knighthood orders in each
>consolidate power
And so I faffed about gathering recruits and continuing to try and make money, until
>get awarded marshal
And so it was time.

I'm currently leading the combined military of the New Empire against the four snake cult armies that are marauding around.
Cez has been sacked for the last time.

It's a shame that trying to clear cult bandit lairs are fucking suicide missions because of infinite head-seeking crossbow soldiers
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D E A D
E
A
D
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>>160206647
>Right to rule
What is that stat and where do you see it?
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>>160249075
in the reports menu, character info
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Post the stupidest looking faces you got /mbg/
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>>160244531
Dealing with DOUBLE ELITE HEAVY CAVALRY is as simple as going 100% elite infantry. Trying to beat a specialized elite army with a "balanced" army won't work.

Now you know how the AI feels when you cheesed them with mass heavy cavalry in Native.
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>>160237309
As much as I love formations for AI I tend to hate it for my actual troops. If I tell my troops to hold position at FLAG they better center at the fucking FLAG.
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>>160245192
Bandit lairs suck in most mods due to Native's assumption that bandits are such weaklings that a level ~30-40 character can basically take down a small army of them solo. They tend to be either cheesy, save scum fests, or only really practical early game. Barclay mercs can win them for you early game.
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page 9 is the new hotness
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>>160250152
I would be satisfied if they consistently would attack when I click on the enemy instead of mulling around and dying to archers.
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E
A
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>>160249505
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>>160253369
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The exploitation of the peasant class ends NOW
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how does the female characters look in bannerlord?
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>>160256565
They have beautiful teeth
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>>160256565
Like a Britbong
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>>160219581
Did that with Medieval and Conquests, made myt hometown into a powerhouse.
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Ok I've finished the farm arc. In which mod can I create an utopia where no one has to suffer ;____________________;
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>>160257547
>be lord of a small village
>protect it at all costs
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>>160247370
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>>160210367
>he missed the redemption through farming and quasi-conversion to Christianity arc
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>>160258375
What when they come in high numbers? Is there even a mod that allows for tall gameplay? Can I mix Persistent Troop Identities and Dickplomacy to meet the themes?
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>>160255049
>The exploitation of the peasant class
>ever ending
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>>160257547
>I've finished the farm arc
Oh so you finally got to the beginning of the mango. Good for you.
>In which mod can I create an utopia where no one has to suffer
That's just not possible
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>>160258767
The interests of all passes through the interests of each. As education spreads with new technologies the inevitable democratic march towards equality will come to an end with the establishment of a ethical communist society before we become a single-consciousness transhumanist entity.
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>>160259049
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>>160258843
dood, I literally just strated it yesterday and the whole beginning is such an hassle to read through. also, i want a videogame where i can free people of the pain
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>>160259156
You made it through the two long ass prologues. Now you get to read the couple of actual chapters and then wait a month for 18 nice pages of nothing.
>i want a videogame where i can free people of the pain
No such thing
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>>160259353
so thats what he meant by "death is love". what happened to him anyway?
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>>160250031
How is the performance of Empire crossbowmen compared to Ravenstern rangers?
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What faction in Swed Mayo has the sword-that-is-a-shield thing? How do I get it?
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>waiting for Bannerlord
>waiting for PoP 3.8
>waiting for Battle Brothers
>waiting for Factorio
>waiting for exam results
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What is the best mountain blade meme and why is it strength ?
>slow ass early game due to the fact that your companions suck dick at fighting early on
>you could get 6(+2) path finding and any other int skill you want in an hour or two and become the king of the map
>you decide to hit harder instead
>have to wait till you're in the late game for your companions to have around 8 in int skills
>"b-but muh companions and l hit harder :(((("

please go you apes
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>>160262043
>he doesn't have 10 in power draw
>he doesn't even have max proficiency in Archery
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>>160262043
>wasting your own skill points on getting more than 10(+1) path-finding
Surgery is what really makes int worth it
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>>160262302
>>160262421
let's be honest here, if you plan on playing your character for more than 3 hours you'll get to 30 int easily, and after that you can invest on at least 18 strength and get to 6 ps/pd/pt and 6ironflesh easily, it makes the early game much much smoother and you don't have to wait 4 years for your soldiers to gain their health
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>>160262710
>ironflesh
Should have invested in int IRL
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>>160262795
>this is the guy who complains about random javelins killing him in battles
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>>160262710
>talks about biggest memes
>invests into ironflesh


oh wow the irony
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>>160262874
>projecting
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>>160262917
>>160262930
>investing into strength only for the bonus damage when you can kill anything in one hit just with proficiencies

should have invested in int IRL l guess
>>160262795
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>>160263089
>you can kill anything in one hit just with proficiencies
How high proficiency are we talking here
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>>160262710
>>160263089
>>160262874
>ironflesh
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>>160263196
699
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>>160263196
l manage to one shot most bandits and early game shit tier units with a 2h axe and 60~ proficiencies

also a crouched lance will most likely kill anything in one hit if your horse has over 40 speed and you have over 150 polearms proficiency, isn't that hard

>b-but y-you get e-extra d-damage l-l can tank one more hit h-haha
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In every mod that includes the landlords&moneylenders feature, I keep getting free money from seemingly random towns despite never having bought any land anywhere.

In the financial report screen I'll have a balance in town's I've never visited and own no land in, and it KEEPS GROWING.

Why do I get free money? This is bugging the shit out of me.
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>>160263513
>shit tier troops and couched lance
Wow it's fucking nothing
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>>160263513
That's because Two-Handed Axe has 38c, dumbass.
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>>160263637

>wow it's fucking nothing
you can one shot huscarls with a couched lance and no power strike or strength, is that fucking nothing too ?
>>160263643
>oh you can one shot units but thats because 2 handed weapons are TOO POWERFUL

Next you'll tell me that proficiencies make my character too strong
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>>160263884
I don't care what you can do with a couched lance. It's really inefficient in terms of time per kill and it does absolutely nothing for you in sieges.
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>>160263884
>you can one shot huscarls with a couched lance and no power strike

Except Huscarls will usuallt lift their shields when you charge at them, you'll destroy their shields and they will swarm you down.


>Next you'll tell me that proficiencies make my character too strong

>>160263089
>when you can kill anything in one hit just with proficiencies


I know you are shitposting at this point, but whatever.
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>>160264012
It might be inefficient in terms of time per kill but you ensure the kill, it's also the best against mounted units, for sieges you can just shield until you get up the walls and the switch to 2h
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>>160264169
>for sieges you can just shield until you get up the walls and the switch to 2h
And then, in your own words, you can only one shot -most- bandits and shit tier troops.
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>>160262710
Proficiency doesn't increase damage
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>>160250152
They literally do that what are you even talking about
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>>160264662
Proficiency does increase damage.

You'd be a retarded memer not to invest in both power strike and weapon skill if you intend to engage in combat though
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>>160264821
No it's just speed
Power-skills do significantly and STR does marginally but proficiency doesn't
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>>160264561
>not having a 55 damage 2h by the time you get to sieges
That's just you not investing in INT irl my good dude

>>160264662
>>160264913
http://mountandblade.wikia.com/wiki/Weapon_Proficiencies

Make a new save, fight looters with 40 proficiencies, cheat and then fight them again with 250 proficiencies using the very same weapon and tell me if it changes nothing, l dare you
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>>160264913
I hate to be supporting that other obtuse retard's argument but max WP is actually better for your damage than max PS, though obviously it's much easier to get max PS.
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killing enemies in one hit isn't fun
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>>160265296
>30 points into strength for 11 damage
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>>160265481
20 damage with a two-hander

I've never invested 30 points in str for anything other than bowfaggotry myself though
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your mission: play this mod and tell me if it's good
http://www.moddb.com/mods/borgerkrigen-1157-the-danish-civil-war-1157
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>>160265597
just invest 30 str in your companions and have them be monsters in the field instead baka
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>>160265679
How about no
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>>160265679
>mod is named burger king
>not set in the US
What
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>>160263513
honestly, is there even any possible build that doesn't one-shot things with a couched lance charge, assuming the charge isnt blocked?
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>>160265110
I don't take the wiki seriously
>>160265296
Wonder why raz's calculator doesn't account for it then
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>>160266434
You can try it out for yourself as l said, and there's still this chart

>>160265296
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>>160266936
I will when I get home
I actually assumed it did before, but when I started using that calculator it didn't so I was unsure
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Santa claus doesn't even visit nord kids because ragnar is a fucking selfish cunt
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>>160267369
After consulting with the peers of the realm, King Ragnar has decided to confer Random Nord Kid's Christmas Gift on King Ragnar.
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>>160267608
RAGNAR IS FUCKING RUDE
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These battles were fucking disgusting.

Now I'm slightly upset that I can't choose to engage Noldor forces since we're somewhat friendly. The most racist Noldor lord army keeps sacking Ethos, and I'm not allowed to participate in the siege defenses, and the Empire's army is currently exhausted from dicking snakes.

Well, we're at peace, so I'll let the lords go mend their wounds and celebrate the victories over the cults.
In fact, I think I'll have a feast.
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>just accepted a quest to liberate a village from bandits

>about 2500 bandits there

wew lad
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>>160269676
kek, what mod?
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>>160269676
how
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>>160270187
>>160270474

He probably used a level cheat. Same thing happened to me during a test run.
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>>160270530
yeah, if your character is above max lvl (which is 63 l think) it automatically puts you on lvl 20000+ and you have to fight a shitton of enemies in those village quests
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>>160271164
>>160270530
confirmed

also

>it seems to have spawned all 2500 at once, frame rates dropped like mad

I deserve this
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>>160271408
it happened to me back when l found out about cheats
>make your character max level
>"oh wow everything is nice"
>game crashes as soon as l help village
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>>160025240
DEUS VULT
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>>160271408
>2500 mountain bandits at once
Mah nigga
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This game's purpose is to be rude to other people, how could l play such a barbaric game ;_;
archers are so good
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>>160272452
30 agility > 30 strength desu
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>>160276469
fuck didn't mean to quote
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Current warsword or old warsword, which is better?
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>>160276559
Current Warsword is getting a patch in 10 days. Be patient.
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>>160278258
>10 days
Oh no you don't, I'm not falling for that trick again.
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>>160274671
would be better in dickplomacy
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>>160278795
Anon, just be patient, okay? 10 days is just a little over a week.
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>>160279108
That's what they said last time, and those 10 days quickly turned into 5 (or was it more?) months!
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>>160279193
If you're not going to be patient, maybe you don't deserve Warsword at all.
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Which is the proper version of Geko and is there anywhere but MEGA to download it? They keep saying I'm over the bandwidth limit even though I'm not so I'm guessing it's an IP problem but either way I just want mass firearm ashigaru and regret doing so because I'm pretty sure M&B always favors elite troops rather than the unwashed masses
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>>160237931
I play ACOK mostly. What I get is just a tight group of people, shields tend to be at front, but since there are very few spear units besides the Unsullied and Reach Pikemen who are garbage,
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>>160274671
What mod? Also what's the best fantasy mod?
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>>160281867
grim age
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>>160281849
i'd probably blame that on ACOK being shitty then
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>Tell Hakim and some other lord we can take a city easy
>go to lead the siege myself
>cunts stand outside while I do the fighting and dont even help me.
How do I get them to help me in a siege?
I want a town.
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Playing Nova Aetas, my village is supposedly harvesting resources - but where do I get those?
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>>160284637
you can only use them to build things for the village, the nova aetas colonies and village management are not optimized at all, don't even bother looking into it, just build a farm near your hometown to get lotsa grain if your army is big and that's all
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>>160284462
You gotta get them to follow you (Will you follow me, i have a plan) or they wont join in the siege.
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>>160285000
>that would hardly be proper,why dont you follow me instead?
everytime, what do I need to get them to follow me? I have around 299 reown good relations(20 with most, 50 with highest) with most of these lords.
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>>160285523
You need to be a noble of some standing for most of those stuck-up assholes to bother.
At least landed.
The only guarantee is being the marshal.
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>>160285523
>299 reown
this is the problem
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>>160285523
>299 renown
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>>160285523
You need more renown.
The persuasion skill might come into play as well, but don't take my word for it.

Persuasion is a good skill anyway since it helps you get fiefs by persuading lords to vote for you when its time to decide who gets the fief.

But yeah, get more renown.
Do this by completing tournaments or getting a small amount of high level troops and fight sea raiders.
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>>160284842
Colonies look like a lot of trouble to manage indeed, I don't think I'll bother. What do you mean by building a farm? Also, I'm guessing buying property to rent out is a somewhat decent investment, some 90k to get 6k a week will take some time to pay off but I don't think there's anything else to invest in without going into the guilds which are apparently about MMO style grinding which is just stupid
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>>160280763
Get the 3.1 beta off the Mount & Blade forums (it's actually very stable; it's only "less stable" than 3.0, which is like saying a rock is less hard than concrete). The major thing added is breakable gates; if you don't like that you can get 3.0 vanilla; most of the submod content just adds equipment or gimmicky troop trees.

Not sure if any development's happened with it, but the GekoNew mod here just inflates troop sizes to a ridiculous degree and Suguroku mostly just adds equipment options that look sort of out of place since they're sourced from all over.

Honestly Gekokujo is one of several mods that I think is made worse by lots of submods; the default balance and variety is fairly good, if somewhat subtle.
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>>160285873
>>160285916
what renown should be good enough then? 500? 1k+?

do I also need to have them like me? i.e. I need to suck their dicks and do their stupid "i lent money to this one faggot but he won't give it back" quests?
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>>160280763
>>160286963
>I just want mass firearm ashigaru and regret doing so
You're definitely not going to regret it. Firearm troops en masse are hideously good if you manage the volley fire manually (assuming semi-favourable terrain), although you might have some issues in sieges (close quarters combat is inevitable) or certain terrain types, but this is helpfully corrected by lots of pike ashigaru.
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>>160287242
Is there ever a reason to use ashigaru instead of samurai, though? I only played Geko a long time ago, and money was a complete non-issue
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>>160286628
in the camp menu you have the option to build a farm and a castle, they're both worth building

Colonies are not worth building at all they're a huge meme, anything overseas is pretty much useless anyways, just make sure to buy lots of properties everywhere and get rich as shit

Investing in guilds is the only way to build entreprises but properties give much more money, especially in nova aetas, so you don't really have to, but it doesn't take much time to do so
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>>160287024
get around 500 renown and they'll listen to you, friendship doesn't mater
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>start new mod
>enjoying it
>faction no longer at war
>weeks with nothing to do

Why does this happen so often? This game has shit peacetime gameplay, just give me reasons to be permanently at war with someone you fucks
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>>160288450
thanks. will keep that in mind

is it also relative to that particular lord's own renown btw?

say I can boss around a shitty lord with 200 renown, but I can't do anything with a 1-2k+ renown lord
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>>160287415
Not the one you're replying to but I usually get pikemen to hold the enemy ranks in place while my hard hitting Samurai slowly get through the pikemen ranks to maim the paralysed enemy.
I loose less samurais that way. Even though money isn't a problem. Time is
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>>160288585
Go around winning tournaments, wooing the ladies, running errands and amassing troops, just like in the good ol' days before you decided to settle down with a faction.
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>>160289421
I know, but that's hella boring.

Plus, last time I did that was in 1257 and it took me literal WEEKS of ingame time before I gave up and asked my king for leave so I could fight in the holy land. There's plenty of action in there, but it's kind of annoying because I was hoping for a game of infantry fighting in Scotland since I was trying out the pikemen. It has been literal months now and Scotland has never been at war with anyone again, so clearly I made the right choice, but still.
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I wanna be an amazon and kill da men
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>>160288585
kek this isn't a problem with the mod though, what you can do is either garrison more troops in your towns/castles or get higher rep with villages, maybe you could also get married or build more entreprises
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>>160289698
That's mostly nothing though.
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>>160289839
lords are pretty dumb, they don't really care about waging war or taking revenge, they're just like "oh yeah lets go to war with X lol"

Make your own kingdom nigga
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>>160289658
Instigate wars.
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>>160290456
The only thing more boring than downtime as a vassal is managing a kingdom.
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>>160290617
>managing a kingdom is boring
nigga just garrison 500 troops in every one of your fiefs and don't invite anyone in your faction
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>>160288450
>>160285916
>>160286038
>>160285873
Im on day 535, should I have gotten more reown by now? I never have gotten past 310 reown in native because lord drain gets so bad the game becomes boring.
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>>160290736
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK NIGGER
WHAT
THE
FUCK
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>160290706
Was getting everyone to go to war with you part of you plan?
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>>160290736
310 renown is like day 30.
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>>160290736
>not being 1k+ renown in under 100 days*

you got some splaining to do

*sounds like a sales pitch book
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>>160290873
>>160290986
>>160290990
How do you get so much reown so quick? Im bad at this game.
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>>160291283
how do you get so little renown in so much time ?
Do you masturbate to your char or something
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>>160291283
Win tournaments.

Fight enemy stacks with more troops than your own.
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>>160291371
>Im bad at this game.
fuck if I know
>>160291373
I just stop winning tournaments when I get to 200 reown and.

And every stack of enemys with more troops than mine is usually a doomstack with high level troops that I cant even fight.
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>>160291485
nope, but you can fuck them everyday for the rest of your life
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>>160291531
isn't that marriage anyways, only that you're the one forced to fuck some broad to keep her happy?
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>>160269607
Sarleon is back for round two, and this time I'm directing the war effort.

Time to get fucked, frenchfags.
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>>160291682
fuck her senseless you mean
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When is VC going to add a longboat carrying mechanic?
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>>160291485
Are you this anon
>>160190740


Stop posting nsfw pictures dumbass, you'll get banned again.
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page 10
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>sieging Laria
>have the entire host of the Empire to bear
>two ladders, so the assaults are much more contested than a straight bloodbath
>have been wearing down their defenses over the course of a week
>Surgery 10+4 sustains the army despite heavy casualties
>suddenly Aeldarian the Noldor Cocksleeve appears with a host of five hundred
>starts playing wreckingball with my allied lords
I SWEAR TO GOD
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>>160295801
Remove elf
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Just starting Swedish Mayo.
Which faction should I start off as?
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>>160291485
Why is he having sex with boots on?
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>>160297506
Portugal for guns, steel, and memes.
Manipur for FAST and a strong defensive position.
La Na for the best.
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>>160297606
His feet are cold
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>>160297660
So Manipur are basically Rhodoks?
And what faction has that cool 2 swords thing?
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archers are so fucking op in offensive sieges lads
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>>160298452
>Rhodoks
If Rhodoks were the smallest faction and rode the most fastest horses. Manipur is thrown-weapon heavy, but they can really hurl their war darts far.

>cool 2 swords thing
No idea? I think Le dynasty are weeaboo sword fags.
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>>160297660
>Portugal for guns, steel, and memes
what memes?
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>>160297606
proto-american
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So, how does one actually get INTO this game? I can't for the life of me figure out what I'm supposed to do next.

I do the initial quests of saving dudes cousin/brother or whatever, but then what?

I really want to get into this game, but I always quit after the first few missions because I have no clue what I'm supposed to be doing, or ever what direction to go to start doing things I want to do.

I want to be a Petyr Baelish-esque character, where I manipulate the various lords to do my bidding, but I have no idea how to go about any of that.

what do you anons do?
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>>160298952
you amass an army
then you kill people
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>>160298649
Grand European Conquest, hohoho
They also only have one town and one castle, and about 12 villages, making them a force that tends not to expand. It's a de facto player faction.

They also are short on cavalry and heavy on pikes, and completely forgo some of the more powerful native kit, like elephants and bombs.
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>>160298952
If you want to be Petyr Baelish, play CK2 and edit the MTTH of intrigue events down. M&B's politics are not robust enough.

Generally, people go into each savegame with a specific goal.
>create an elite crew of murderhobos out of the companions
>establish a Rhodok Hegemony
>claim X territories for the Player Faction and hold them against all comers
etc.
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>>160298952
It's best to set goals and practice active plan management.

Short-term goals:
1. Get Companion Set X, Y, and Z
2. Capture Town A and B
3. Win Tournament at Town C

Long-term goals:
1. Defeat All of Faction X
2. Establish Dyeworks at Town Y and Z
3. Feast

Even general planning like that gets you thinking of more planning like

>what is the best possible stat allocation growth for companion X?
>what strategy works best against faction X?
>what troop type and battlefield tactics work best against faction X?

and so on and so on

all you need is i m a g i n a t i o n and a whole lot of autism
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>>160299837
self insert, if you're gonna be this autistic go all the way desu, + the game is more fun once you accept the fact that you're an autist
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>>160301094
>tfw so autistic you make mods you don't even play
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>>160302596
We appreciate it.
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>>160299095
>Elephants

Honestly worst part of the mod (which is overall fucking amazing).

They're a horse with very high HP and fucked up hitboxes. If they can't get them to work well they should just remove them entirely desu
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>>160303192
I don't think the mod has been worked on in quite a while.
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>>160303192
Elephants make rather effective tanks precisely because of their extreme HP, armor, and fucked up hitboxes.

It would be ideal if they hit boxes were fixed but in a strange way it helps their niche.
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>>160260268
They are both great in different ways -- Much like Vaegir Marksmen vs Rhodok Sharpshooters with one notable exception: Ravenstern Rangers have two-handers and 6 power strike. This means that they can defend themselves against Cavalry rather competently, whereas the Empire Armored Crossbowmen excel more at sieges due to shields and shorter reach swords (in a way they are weaker than Rhodok Sharpshooters due to sword usage actually).

Going full archer army (both mounted and infantry) with Ravenstern works remarkably well. namely as the mounted archers complement the archers by delaying the enemy advance and getting shield units to turn their backs. The Ravenstern Rangers are strong enough to handle smaller forces of Cavalry that penetrate their lines. They can competently even defend themselves against most infantry.

In (un-modded) PoP a full army of mounted and archer rangers is great. The only real problem with this type of army is upkeep. In the past people complained that Ravenstern Kierguard were weak but they actually were the best garrison troops in older versions of PoP due to their great stats for their cost along with assured shields.

I am looking at PoP unit stats now though and my info is pretty outdated it seems -- The developers caved in and buffed Ravenstern Kierguard and also upped their troop level, which is a shame IMO. I actually preferred the original design much more and thought it was retarded that the Falconian mod buffed the Ravenstern Kierguard for that reason.
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>>160287415
Ashigaru tend to take a lot less time to level up, and some specific clans get a very high ratio of gunners to bowmen (Oda and Tokugawa, for example). You don't need elite units for a gunline either, just bulk - even Tsushima and Hired Gunners barely have better than 80 firearms skill, but that doesn't matter when you're shooting a solid wall of lead.

3.1 introduces an optional balancing option which causes samurai to take up 2 party slots which also incentivizes mixed ashigaru/samurai parties.
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>>160025240
D E U S V U L T
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>>160024583
Available: To Be Announced

Is this game ever coming out? Jesus Christ it was slated for November during the spring of this year.
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>>160312035
>it was slated for November during the spring of this year
no it wasn't

they've never given anything more than "maybe beta this year who knows"
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>>160312092
I'll check back in 2018 ;;
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>>160312253
now why would you check that early?
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>>160314652
>Rebelling over a castle
Based Marius is doing you a favor
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>mfw getting defeated in dickplomacy
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>>160315186
I have been merely waiting for an excuse, you butter slut.
I hold a town for myself already, and two other castles in holding for landing companions.
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>>160316009
>Rebelling with only a city and two castles

Get a load of this bandit lord
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>>160316196
>implying I dont have a cadre of other landed lords ready to defect to me the moment I hit the button
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>>160316302
Do it, but if you savescum don't talk to me or my son ever again
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>when finns violate the NAP so you fund the pope to form a crusade
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>trying to Marry Lakhem
>help him get a castle
>get relationship to 66
>My lady, there are other maidens who have captured my heart
>He has never visited a maiden ever.
I feel cucked
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>>160317778
d e u s v u l t
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>>160306167
>You don't need elite units for a gunline either
let me know how that works out for you when massed cavalry charges your skirmish line
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>>160290736
>day 535
>310 renown
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>>160319995
Its 510 now.

I dont like doing tournaments t.b.h
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>>160320179
>doing tournaments when you can beat lords for big dick renown
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>>160320227
Thats what im doing.
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>>160297506
Mrauk-U for asian mureens and massed handcannons for maximum friendly fire.

>>160298452
Ayutthaya top-tier infantry(Jatulangkabart) has the double swords IIRC.
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>>160318006
>Refuse to marry until I hit 100 relations with significant other
Is this a bit mucH? I can't tolerate that I am unable to increase relations with female spouses after marriage and the concept of my character have a legion of 100 relationship bros with a cunt wife breaks my immersion.
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