/cfog/ - Classic Fallout (& New Vegas) General

1st for arcade a shit

>>159970329
What happened?

>>159971107
Thread didn't get bumped in time and went into the archives.

>>159971107
>>159971252
WE'RE DEAD
IT'S OVER

>>159970708
Raul > Cass > Arcade > Boone > Lily > Veronica

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>your car ran out of power

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If you pussys would have stopped the Enclave from getting wiped out then the thread wouldn`t have died.

You know remember Project Brazil

They didn't even release the second part and now no one would play it anyway even if they did

>>159972482
Now*, but you also know about it too if you didn't before

>>159972482
Plenty of people will still play it.
You're forgetting that most people have shit taste.

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Holy shit guys, I think I've played through New Vegas forever, so far (this month) I've played
>minmax faggot stealth sniper siding with house
>energy weapons and tech female siding with legion (lmao)
>grunt siding with NCR
>a living meme siding with yes man, allways choosing what I felt like would be the most fun, blue hair, constantly high on every drug avaiable, explosives and unarmed
>melee only siding with ncr, roleplayed as a guy that got so braindamaged he imagined himself some "tales of chivary"/"Grognak the barbarian" character, so far the hardest run I've done holy fuck, had to stay as chivalrious and honorable as possible
>tech wizard, roleplaying as THE mastermind, 10 int, making House my bitch
>AND last but not least, Jew Rogue, siding with House, doing whatever it takes to get the most caps possible out of every situation while sneaking around with max sneak, barter and lockpick

...what is there left to do even? Please give me build/run suggestions...

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>>159972270
Enclave a shit, Roboscorpions is where it's at!

>>159971750
Because of my extreme prejudice and unjustified racism towards lations, I cannot bring myself to ever have Raul on my team.

Why do you faggots like Raul so much? And what's with Cass > Veronica, Cass is a dirty, alcoholic whore, Veronica is pure ubermensch bred for powerarmors and powerfucking <3

Veronica > ArcGAYde > Cass > Lily > Raul > Boone

>>159973215
Mobius could honestly roll over every army in the mojave with these

If they had better weapons they would be the enclave patrols of new vegas

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>>159973426
Raul is atleast relatable. He tells supermutants to shoot you and not him since they are "on the same team" and then awkwardly talks it off as nothing happened. Meanwhile Veronica wants a dress and is a lesbian. Unless you secretly wish to be a woman and dress in your moms cloths she has nothing relatable to her. Arcade is atleast more relatable with his family issues and his past.

>>159974672
The worst part is he did it half-assed and for the fuck of it, imagine if he WANTED to take over the Mojave, retards like House, the Enclave and The Master wouldn't stand a fucking chance...

>>159975017
Why do you need to relate to your companions? If you want to self insert, do it as the courier, like what the fuck? Do you want your friends to be you in real life aswell?

>>159975178
It`s known that friends often share the same interests, languages, skin colour. So yeah your friends are you to some extent. I doubt the friends you have are all vegetarians communist homosexuals who hate videogames and love talking about Cricket, while you are a capitalist muslim who thinks cricket is boring and uninteresting to talk about. Bet you are the kind of person wich prefers companions wich only got 1 line and then just shoot people for you and nothing else.

>>159977192
I'm a white, conservative christian, but my friends include:
>a black, nerdy girl
>a bunch of vietnamese wannabe gangsters
>a thai gayboy
>some white powerlifters
>some emo's and skaters
>a few scandinavians aswell

I hang out with people I find interesting and amusing, I don't need to "see myself" in my friends, I need my friends to be entertaining.
How can you entertain yourself through "yourself"?

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Well it looks like /cfog/ might be actually coming to an end if we can't reach the bump limit.

I for one will not be partaking in the inevitable /fog/ merge, even if by some miracle Obsidian announces plans for a new Fallout game. Too many arguments and waifu faggotry on /fog/s part would drive actual discussion into the ground.

I might go back to NMA, even if they bitch and moan all the time and write horrible fanfics

I am playing NV with an ENB for my first time, im using Ruby enb alongside nevada skies, but shit is too dark all the fucking time.
nexus is currently down so I cant look up if theres a solution from the modder himself.

Anyone here knows how to make day and night skies brighter with that ENB? I just really love the color setup it has

How likely is it that Obsidian does another? Seems like Beth want to keep this for themselves

>>159979694
Not very, but don't lose hope.

>>159970708
>t. jealous legion manlet

>The Legion is the best long-term solution to peace and order in the Wasteland.

Defend this.

>>159973426
>Cass is a dirty, alcoholic whore
and thats why I like her

>>159979330
>>159979694

they literally cant make a new game even if bethesda contracted them out

they dont have the manpower or the finances and urqueheart has said this multiple times.

>>159979479
install realistic wasteland lighting over top of Nevada Skies, and also make sure to check if theres an ENB version

overrwite when asked and load RWL after the nevada skies plugin

>>159975178
>The worst part is he did it half-assed and for the fuck of it
did you play OWB?
mobius is the good guy

>>159983283
>they dont have the manpower
Uh what, they have more people now after PoE was a massive success and all.
>finances
You do realize they didn't make New Vegas with their money? That's not how publisher-developer relationships generally work.

>>159983407
They didn't exactly get paid the amount they were expected what with the meta critic score fiasco.

>>159979330
This place is roughly as busy as /sg/, though.

Coincidentally, they also had a thread die like a week or two ago, and most of their posts are just "kys" anyway.

>>159982908
impossible

>MGS Alert
>Responsive Kill Reactions
>Big Boss character preset
I know what I'm doing.

>>159972859
Isolationist Terminator. Energy weapons, make your base the Big MT Sink, leave your body parts behind, high END, INT, PER, crash your karma with no survivors as you attack camps and stations. Attack NCR and Legion on sight, work for independence. Side with House or Yes Man, use the most direct and violent solutions for everything.

That's what I'm doing on my newest playthrough.

>>159972859
Have you read the pastbin? There are plenty of unique run types.

>>159984994
That is not my point. They got paid enough to get the game made, they didn't get enough afterwards but that's another story. If, hypothetically, they were contracted to make a game, they would be given a budget to go with.

>>159988140
I know what you getting at don't worry.
What we have though is a double edged sword.

Obsidian alone does not have the finances to fuel a big AAA title like this, hence why they had to crowd fund PoE. Let's also be realistic, an isometric Fallout is not going to make enough for Bethesda/Zenimax to invest as a publisher.

But if the former does decide to become a publisher, how much do you bet the same bullshit restrictions are going to be applied? I know obviously Obsidian had to agree to the production timeframe (otherwise they would have sued) but still, a gimped engine and a timeframe is not going to produce the same quality of game that people are expecting them to churn out.

>>159988703
>Obsidian alone does not have the finances to fuel a big AAA title like this
Eh, the original claim is "they wouldn't be able to make an AAA game even if Beth contracted them", which isn't really true. Obviously they can't do AAA on their own.
>the same quality of game that people are expecting them to churn out
At this point people expect Obs to release broken games, desu. Dunno about their latest game, Tranny. Didn't see people complaining about bugs, mostly about writing.

>>159988910
>Eh, the original claim is "they wouldn't be able to make an AAA game even if Beth contracted them", which isn't really true
That was the other guy, not me.
>At this point people expect Obs to release broken games, desu.
True, but I'd want an Obsidian Fallout to be something special; something so special everyone realizes Bethesda have been taking the IP for a ride, and not a good one. One can dream.
>Didn't see people complaining about bugs, mostly about writing.
Didn't a bunch of their core writing staff leave? Also that's bound to happen with a new IP, especially with one as, dare I say, uninspired as Tyranny.

>>159989247
>Didn't a bunch of their core writing staff leave?
Well, sort of. Avellone left with a bang, Fenstermaker left to raise a baby, Ziets left long ago, before Vegas. Gonzales was fired after Vegas, he's writing for that robot dinosaur playstation game.

Anyway, Tranny was a B-team side project, so I didn't expect it to be great. But, again, no signs of it being a buggy mess, which is a good thing... for PoE 2, at least.

So, who's the best non-faction NPC (other than The King who is goat)?

>>159992886
No-bark

>>159992886
>The King
>non-faction NPC
I don't think you know what you're talking about.

>>159995081
He's technically in the "NOVAC" faction.

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Well, it was fun while it lasted /cfog/

>>159973426
I honestly chose Veronica only because she's a route into being a Paladin and to a truce between them and the NCR.

>>159979694
Also keep in mind many of the people who worked on New Vegas are no longer at Obsidian. The chances seem unfortunately slim.

>>159997273
You just KNOW

>>160006691
What else is there to do in Goodsprings?

>>160006710
Trudy.

>>159983283
>did you play OWB? (He's the good guy)

I know, I'm just saying, if he WAS a bad guy, mojave would be fucked beyond measure.
Even Ulysses would've stopped with the BEAR'N'BULL and start going SCORPIONS'N'SHIT

>>159997273
>no ending where you settle with her in Goodsprings right after the tutorial

>>160007749
Too bad vidya won't have anywhere near the diversity in choice that PnP games have for another few decades, if ever.

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What was her fucking problem?

>>160008248
She left her containment board.

>>160008248
she was "stronk womyn" and had to prove herself

>>160007715
Moe-bius was the best OWB desu

>>160001761
>A general saluting indoors

>>160008248
Got kicked upstairs after an injury left her unfit for field work.
Tried to overcome this by murdering her enemies through giving orders rather than doing it personally.

Hi cfog.
I want to replay and remod New Vegas to make it beautifull, and tought of following this guide:

http://wiki.step-project.com/User:EssArrBee/FalloutNewVegas

Any of you used it?
Is it good?
If not, could you recommend another one?
I'd rather a guide detailled like this one because I'm tired of mod compatibility and all this shenanigans, so something that could work out of the box, maybe if I could add some quest mods later it would be great.
Thanks

>>160016305
Pretty sure it's outdated as fuck. Check out our pastebin.
Also, you really shouldn't worry about compatibility if you aren't installing literal hundreds of mods.

>>160020482
Thank for your reply.
Last update was the 16 june, so it doesn't seem so outdated.
The pastebin is nice, but it don't state load order and the like, I was planning to use the STEP guide as a base and add some other mods suggested from the pastebin.

>>159977192
I have a vegan friend who doesn't drink or play videogames, loves classic cars and is emotional as fuck
I eat meat and play videogames daily, drink almost as often, can hardly change my oil and never care enough about anything except animals to get upset.

I have friends who support Shillary and friends who are glad Trump won, I have one friend who is so damn politically clueless and obviously gets his information off a single, biased subreddit

Gotta be a narrow minded narcissist to hang out with a carbon copies of yourself imo

Raul is also facing the very real dilemma of aging and his role in society, whereas a lot of other companions have quests that focus on their standing or opinion of their factions

>>159977192
I have a vegan friend who doesn't drink or play videogames, loves classic cars and is emotional as fuck
I eat meat and play videogames daily, drink almost as often, can hardly change my oil and never care enough about anything except animals to get upset.

I have friends who support Shillary and friends who are glad Trump won, I have one friend who is so damn politically clueless and obviously gets his information off a single, biased subreddit

Gotta be a narrow minded narcissist to hang out with a carbon copies of yourself imo

Raul is also facing the very real dilemma of aging and his role in society, whereas a lot of other companions have quests that focus on their standing with, or opinion of their factions, or some larger than life, deliberately grey dilemma.

>>160026678
Not him but if you have absolutely nothing in common, as you've described, how are you friends? Is it by association with another person e.g a friend of a friend. Is it because you've known them for so long?

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>>160026393
>>160026678
Nice double post fag

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>>160030987
My shitpost didn't even help the thread

Howdy

>>160033929
NCR, LEGION, HOUSE, BOS , ENCLAVE OR INDEPENDENCE

>>160034194
Primm has a new sheriff, that should keep the Powder Gangers away

>>160034315
You eyeballin' me?

>>160034194
Wut? Isn't there a mod where you can create your own damn faction?

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>>160034194
OUTTA MY WAY MUTIE FUCKING SHITS!

Why the fuck I cant pickpocket maria off benny when he is in caesars tend?I fail everytime even with a stealthboy

>>160034452
Ave

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>>160035818
about time

>>160033929
I want to unite ncr, followers and bos under a single new government.

>>160037286
Fuck outta here, Bismarck

>>160037286
Don't forget the Great Khans.

Does anyone have any Legion saves just before the end?
I've finished the game with Independent, NCR and House and I want to finish it once with the Legion just for the achievements.

Anyone watching Josh playing New Vegas on Obsidian twitch?

>>160039797
link?

>>160039993
How hard is it to find OFFICIAL OBSIDIAN TWITCH CHANNEL, m8?

Anyway, I tried to post the link but it's prohibited apparently. I guess you knew it and wanted to bait me? Clever.

>>160040104
Found it, I just searched it in new vegas streams category.

Kek, he's saving even more often than me.

Sleep tight, dogger.

thoughts on new vegas redesigned?

>>160039797
>subscriber /follower popups in the middle of the screen every few seconds
Wow, dropped. Sorry, Josh, should've balanced that cancer better.

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>>160039797
>livestreams

AHAHAHAHA

a car literally crushed into Obsidian QA dept once

the LAPD Riot Gear is so good

BIG IRON
I
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I
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THANKS OBSIDIAN

>>160044584
>Josh is a Big Iron guy
Johnny Guitar fags btfo

>>159970329
MYRON INVENTED JET
MYRON INVENTED JET
MYRON INVENTED JET

BETHKEKS ON LITERAL SUICIDE WATCH

>Josh just casually destroyed Bethesda
Damn, son.

>Why would jet be in any pre-war pharamcies?
>Myron invented Jet

Love you josh

>>160045069
fuck, spaced out and missed him say that

>>160045053
>>160045059
>>160045069
not interested in discussing how realistic drugs are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1478991434884.webm

>>160039797
Link? Can't seem to find it.

>>160045336
the one dude keeps repeating troll questions regarding it and the BoS acting differently from 4

>>160045560
twitch dot tv slash obsidian

>>160045640
Thanks

>josh forgetting that the majority of primm's convicts were removed in a patch

He ded

>>160045896
They were? Why? Performance?

>>160046080
yeah. I think it was the OWB DLC that removed a lot of stuff in the base game for performance and memory reasons

He just confirmed that Lanius WAS supposed to be deformed as fuck. Interesting, because there was a theory that it was just one of myths surrounding him.

>>160046164
>OWB DLC that removed a lot of stuff in the base gam
I don't think DLCs can do that, maybe it was a patch that released in that time, though.

>>160046243
Lanius is like Lord Humungus from Road Warrior

>>160046164
Good thing. OWB was overkill in terms of overall spawns.

>>160046395
>OWB was overkill in terms of overall spawns.
Only while you're playing through it.

I just love murder - Josh Sawyer

>isn't playing with his own mod

looks like I'm not using it either

>>160047261
>>isn't playing with his own mod
He does, though?

>>160047261
He does though.

>>160047261
>>160047323
He's mentioned that he's using it several times. It's the only mod he's using.

>I don't want to speculate on the other areas because it may harm future use of locations

That's exactly what happened to a lot of areas mentioned in NV though

So some reason marias slide is very low res anyone knwo what gives?I dont use any weapon retextures.

>>160047967
Abnormally so? Vanilla textures are pretty low-res.

>surprised by seeing lots of drawings of Arcade and Vulpes having sex

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>>160048605
Yeah the slide is blurry as fuck

http://sugarbombed.com/forums/threads/chris-avellone-interview-part-1.21018/

>SB: One last Fallout 4 related question. Bethesda, specifically the lead BGS writer Emil Pagularo, have taken some heat for multiple lore inconsistencies found in Fallout 4. For example, according to Fallout 4, jet was available pre-war and not created by Myron in Fallout 2.

>CA: Do I take issue with them? No. (And considering what jet was originally made from, that lore point should make a lot of players happy.)

>Avellone
>The guy who actually wrote Fallout 2
>Saying jet being pre-war is ok for obvious reasons
>Sawyer
>guy who had no hand in Fallout 2
>Implying his word matters

>>160047687
According to Avellone, Bethesda gave Obsidian free reign to do whatever they wanted with the west coast.

They made stuff up because Bethesda had no interest in it.

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>"I don't want to set the world on fire" starts playing

good job Groening

>>160047967
vanilla textures are low res as fuck

I didn't realize until I was on PC, theyre like 512x512

>>160048918
Avellone is a cuck.

>>160049812
>Avellone is a cuck for pointing out that jet being prewar makes sense because its just cow shit

>>160048675
>tfw I don't have any of those drawings saved outside of ones that suggest it

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>you can obtain fresh potatoes in Nevada, Arizona and California
>a couple of years later the potato goes extinct

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>sunset saspies

>>160050242
>Implying the people on the east coast have any knowledge of shit being farmed on the west coast.

>>160049654
nigga see
>>160048786
The upper part the "slide"is low res compared to the rest to the gun

>>160050383
>he doesn't build mass with sass

Enjoy that irradiated mess

>>160050445
>Implying the people on the east coast have any knowledge of shit
FTFY
The East Coast is literally a scavenger hunt for Pre-War shit and needing specialized workbenches for crafting basic shit.

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>>160051292
>If you have a vague idea of what crop rotation is you have more knowledge about farming than Fallout 3 and 4's character do

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>>160051451
>If you've heard the word "hydroponics" you know more about farming than Fo3 and 4's characters

>>160049895
Avellone get out this thread and go back to shilling for Bethesda.

>>160049434
This isn't real is it?

>>160051273
>reminder ceasar doesn't really give a shit about the chip past destroying the "whatever it is" under the fort

>>160048918
>even on something so random and insignificant as this, Sawyer's and Avellone's opinions differ
Fucking hell.

>>160051716
Except they have a hydroponics bay in Rivet city in Fallout 3

House + BoS fags BTFO

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>>160054086
>House + BoS

Lol, Sawyer dissing OWB. And holy shit, my captcha was bicycles, how topical.

>>160055232
what did Sawyer say about OWB?

>>160055317
He said that humor wasn't "his cup of tea".

Holy crap, ED-E just killed the SHIT out of that Metal Armour guy.

>>160056210
Is he /ourguy/?

Starting up modding NV for the xth time, been away for about a year. Any hidden gem recommendations that aren't in the pastebin?

>>160056938
Two Bears High-Fiving.

>>160057534
Not bad, installed.
Any more.

>>160057746
Removable Pip-Boy Glove.

>>160058040
Already have it.

>>160058173
Improved Terrifying Presence.

>>160058173
Courier's Stash in Goodsprings.

Voids the "Here's all the DLC!" and instead stuffs it into a few corpses strewn about Goodsprings.

>>160058173
What are you after anon mod wise? I know a bunch of hidden gems.

>>160058387
JSawyer already does that.

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>>160058387
>>160058451
Yeah, I use Jsawyer, which does something similar.

>>160058439
Mostly looking for a 'vanilla plus' experience - lore-friendly shit that expands upon the base game, adds/changes things that should have been there in the first place. Pic related is my folder of such little mods before coming in this thread. I usually merge them all into one .esp, if there's no conflicts.

>>160058724
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45303/?

For whatever reason, in my game, I was getting them between every 24 hours and 6 hours, right from the moment I ticked Caesar off, apparently. I was still killing them fine, but it was getting a bit disruptive.

The seven day version worked quite well for me, as did the 3 day version when I tested it.

>>160059114
Neat idea, but I kind of like getting ambushed often. It makes sense that (especially towards end-game) Casesar would see you as a massive threat to his grab for power. And given that we're repeatedly told that Caesar has spies everywhere, coupled with the Legion's guerilla tactics, it makes more sense to me.

>>160058724
Neutral Power Armor

Uncut Wasteland (big, but good)

Improved Gecko Leather Armor

Talkative Cass

The Law Won (and also: NCRCF Alarm Fix)

OWB Full Hazmat

Well, really quick intervals is a bug, they'd intended them to be seven days. If you're enjoying it, more power to you, I just like having the scripting actually working properly (whatever the interval) rather than messing up.

>>160059429
On second thought, think I'll use the 1-day option. Given the game's fast timescale, that seems plenty often.

>>160059612
>Neutral Power Armor
Downloading now, looks good.
>Uncut Wasteland (big, but good)
Already got it, great mod.
>Improved Gecko Leather Armor
Also looks good, downloading.
>Talkative Cass
Got a link? Can't see it on nexus,
>The Law Won (and also: NCRCF Alarm Fix)
>seems okay.
>OWB Full Hazmat
There's a few hazmat mods on the nexus, not sure which one you're referring to.

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>>160058724
I really only play vanilla plus, so all of these mods, give or take, are perfect.

A lot of these are uncut restoration mods; NVUncut is an essential imo. The rest are armor mods and general game fixes.

>>160060000
>Uncut Wasteland
Shit, that's good!

>>160060106
Thanks, there's a few mods in there I'll definitely be getting.

>>160060000
The OWB one was either:

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/54702/?

or:

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/44263/?
, but I think it was the former.

It seems the Cass mod is gone, it was intended to restore her pre-patch dialogue frequency when passing through various towns and locales, but I could never quite get it to work right, myself. Might be why it's gone now.

I reccomend mods that restore NPCs that were removed in patches, like 188 NPCs and Primm Convicts

>>160061539
I believe New Vegas Uncut - Outside Bets does that, plus much more. Same with Uncut Wasteland. UW also has a version compatible with NVU.

>>160061530
Yes, looks like the first one is better. Downloading.

>>160061530
>As a bonus, I have integrated the Hazmat Darklight Tweak mod into both versions of the Hazmat masks so you can delete that mod if you use it.

Any idea what this is?

>>160061952
Looking at it in FNVEdit, I think it enables cateye vision at night time, rather than 24/7.

>>160061952
>Hazmat Darklight Tweak
Pretty sure that turns off the NV filter during the day (while outside), so it isn't constantly bright blinding green, and removes the darklight cowl as a headgear, which makes the 'cowl' part of the mod I linked earlier possible.

>>160040104
>How hard is it to find OFFICIAL OBSIDIAN TWITCH CHANNEL, m8?
That's assuming people use Twitch.
I've only tried to use the damn thing three times in my life and finding a link was ridiculous because of the god-awful design of the site.

>>160062665
Same. The only time I've used twitch is during the E3 streams, and links are posted everywhere to go directly to them.

>>160062819
>>160062665
Who said anything about using twitch?

https://www.google.com/#q=twitch+obisidan

First link for me.

Alright, who told /v/?
>>>/v/357530496

>>160062938
The same faggot who posted the link here, me.

>>160062883
Should have mentioned this was years ago and this twitch thing never properly turned up in Google.
It was awful then, so fuck it.
I'll just watch anything important on Youtube later.

>>160062819
I've only used it for the official Pokemon tournaments a while back and was only watching it live because I had placed a bet on how far a few contenders were getting.

>>160062938
I can guarantee at least 90% of /vg/ are /v/ cross-posters. It's really no surprise.

>>160063098
Considering most people browse more than one board, especially when there's multiple related to vidya, it really isn't.
I'm sure quite a few people here spend some time on /vr/

>>160063098
/cfog/ was born from /v/ though; show some respect to your elders.

>>160063483
>/cfog/ was born from /v/ though
Half /v/, half /fog/ refugees, I'd say.

>>160063483
What's wrong with you? I never said anything bad about /v/. I've been in those NV /v/ threads, in fact I started a few of them.

I wish more games had lever action rifles.

>>160069220
Lever-actions aren't real guns, they're toys for people who like to play cowboy and people in slave states.

>>160069391
They look and act life real guns to me.

Does anyone here play Underrail?
It's the only non-Fallout, non-Wasteland game that can scratch my niche itch of post-apoc CRPG.

Sure, there's tons of CRPGs, but 90% of them are high/low fantasy or medieval and they're fun and all, but they can't fill the void.

>>160069540
i've heard about it, but I've never looked into it.

>>160071273
If you get the same itch I do that Fallout can't always fulfill usually when you're burnt out by playing them too much then it's something that does the job.

More than that, it's a really solid game, mostly made by one guy who just really likes videogames as a seven year labor of love.
It's really one of the best games to come out in the past decade.
Plus, it's only $15 because his fanbase convinced him to sell it for more than $8.

post couriers

>>160071992
You first.

Howdy.

>>160075979
one can only howdy so many times anon

>>160076078
I must Howdy, to save you all from the brink.

>>160076078
Howdy.

>>160076078
Toodle-doo

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Are we Tactical enough /fog/?

>>160079638
>setting where powered armour exists
>wearing silly EOD gear

>>160079638
That helmet looks pretty sick, but the rest just doesn't fit at all.

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how smell

>>160079638
Right is operator/10
left is tacticool retard/10

NMA is better than /cfog/

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>always wonder what the load screen about prospectors and the safe in an irradiated mineshaft is about
>climbing a hill i don't think im supposed to
>actually fucking find irradiaated mineshaft
>[spoiler/ its just shitty old vault 34[/spoilers]

>>160079638
what mods are those armors?

>>160084420
Think of all the guns in it tho. The ghouls and radiation are just an extended lockpick minigame with Rad-Away instead of bobby pins.

>>160084420
Nice spoilers, nerd.
Ctrl-s

>>160084471
I mean seriously, that thing is absolutely incredible to bust as a Guns character - you get All-American, assault carbine, sniper rifle, riot shotgun (broken to the point where it's completely unfun to use with And Stay Down) and a goddamn minigun! Not to shabby for an explosives char either, missile launchers are great.

>>160042250
>new vegas redesigned
pretty much my biggest gripe about it was that the modder changed the characters too much at times to,suit the appearance of the VOs, changing their races etc. which completely misses the point of having voice actors

Decker from Fallout's VO wasn't even white to begin with and it was totally fine

>>160042250
any version after 2 is cancer and you have shit taste for using them

any tips for running NV in a graphics media accelerator hd tier toaster?

>>160086109
Turn everything down to low
Go to the nexus, search 'performance' and download everything.

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>>160027763
I don't know, we just get along. Similar temperaments, senses of humour, and moral values underpin most of my friendships over specific stances on things. Strangely, sometimes it's the smaller interests (my vegan friend and I both love birds, for example, although I'm okay with eating them) or solid discussion that generates between two people who don't always see eye to eye.

>>160030987
>implying
Pic related faggot. Don't know how this happened desu

>>160087709
>Don't know how this happened desu
Not that guy, but you're saying you don't know how you posted almost exactly the same thing as someone who posted over 4 minutes before you did?

>>160059612
>Uncut Wasteland

Anybody know how resource intensive this one is?

Why doesn't drunk animations work in my game? I have drunks but their walking animations are not triggered.

I'm thinking it has to be either The Strip Open or Freeside Open that does it, but I don't know for sure.

>>160088693
Not particularly.

>>160088894
Does it work with The Strip Open? I know it has a separate version for Freeside Open and Uncut Bets but I'm not seeing anything about The Strip Open

>>160081150
shit

>>160084420
What? I have never seen this screen.

So wich of the Honest Hearts endings do you guys prefer?

I liked Daniels ending more [/spoiler/]

>>160091481
Joshua ending with sparing that savage.

>>160076078
howdy is eternal

>>160091481
go after the white legs
joshua spares Salty
tell Waking Cloud about her husband
I don't like either of Swallows-Cock endings so I switch off every time.

>>160091396
It's one of those hint texts on the loading screens. It says something like... "Prospector is a polite word for scavenger, most places are picked dry but people still scavenge because they hope to find something big", and that safe is an example.

>>160091396
>>160093601
Easy Pete tells you that too.

>>160093601
>>160096646
Why are you so sure about this referring to vault 34 exactly?

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>>159973215
Wasteland was great.

>>160052047
https://youtu.be/e43LDIpsKp8

>Sunny Smiles said Easy Pete tried to blow the safe in the school house
>Everything is still perfectly intact and there's no scorch marks

NV really is the worst game.

>>160091481
Joshua's ending is the only one that makes sense in the long run.
>but Daniel/muh Sorrows innocence
It'll be lost eventually, and what will happen now is that their protectors, the Dead Horses, will slowly become pacified, reversing everything Joshua has taught them.

The other big fault with Daniel's ending is that it indirectly will strengthen the Legion. The White Legs lose hope and retreat, but the 80s tribe still exist, and with all competition gone from Zion and beyond, they'll become the next big power, and one of which Caesar will surely take notice of. By siding with Joshua, regardless if you spare/kill Salt Upon Wounds, the 80s, as well as the White Legs, are defeated.

>>160100503
I didn't expect anything less from zombie Simpsons.

>>160084457
There's from Drag's Armor Megapack on the Gunnetwork.

>>160097640
He wasn't, he just said it reminded him of that phrase.

>>160102232
She lied

>Best for the Courier
Yesman
>Best for New Vegas
House
>Best for the Mojave
NCR
>Best for the wasteland
Caesar's Legion

Discuss.

>>160111285
>>Best for the wasteland
>Caesar's Legion
nah

>>160111285
i guess House is best for the wasteland because he is focusing on technology to make america great again.

>>160111285
>Best for the Courier
>Yesman

Are you forgetting the part of that ending where Yesman tells you he's updated his firmware to be more affirmative and less reliant on taking orders from others?

I think it's safe to say that The Courier didn't have much say in what happened with The Strip after that.

>>160113932
>I think it's safe to say that The Courier didn't have much say in what happened with The Strip after that
Someone once asked Josh about this, and he basically called it complete bullshit.
I think it's safe to say that he knows better.

>>160113932
>>160116385
It basically just means some random chucklefuck can't just stroll into the Lucky 38 and tell Yesman to blow up Vegas for the lulz.

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>>160113932
>>160116385
>>160117398
jfc

>>160117398
I don't know I found that line of dialogue to be foreboding

>"That's where I'll be... off making a few changes and I... I guess I'll see you around."

>>160113932
I actually think it's a toss up between House and the NCR for the best outcome for the Courier. I had to throw in a Yesman positive even though it's the worst ending imo

The who affirmative thing just means Yesman is more inclined to listen to you rather than anyone else. It's to avoid you becoming Benny and having an underling convince Yesman to turn against you.

What's the best Stealth Archer AP gun?

>>160124286
A dumner.

>>160124286
hunting rifle

>>160125339
>dunner
>best stealth archers
I think you mean imga

>>160124286
Paciencia.

>>160125717
>>160125915
But those don't have suppressors, I want stealth archer, not loud archer.

>>160126092
Stealth is for pussies.

>>160126268
I am a pussy.

>>160124286
Christine's rifle or Modded AMR.

>>160126397
Do some kegels.

>>160126092
>But those don't have suppressors
then christines COS rifle

have fun getting assraped by sentrybots and roboscorpions

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why is life such a joke

>>160126902
Because Fantastic got elected President.

>>160127170
"Got the whole middle class suckling my teets and if feels ~so good~"

>>160126902
>California threatens secession
>Trump calls their bluff and war is declared
>All the Mexican gardeners and maids flee
>Northern California defects to the states
>liberals are nuked
>California turned into a huge prison complex to cope with jail overcrowding
>state of Jefferson is created out of Northern California

One can dream.

>>160126902
Wait do they want to call themselves NCR? The meme power of this election is off the charts.

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>>160127375
>>California turned into a huge prison complex to cope with jail overcrowding
>mfw it becomes Escape From LA instead of Fallout

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So if supermutants got into a war with the nightkin, which would win?

>>160127669
Supermutants; they have behemoths :^)
Depends who has the numbers. Nightkin may have the edge with stealthboys, but it makes them too volatile to be effective soldiers

>>160127669
>Insane invisible ones
>Below average intelligence visible ones

Nightkins.

>>160127669
There are far more normal super mutants then nightkin

>>160126902
>why is life such a joke
meme
magic

>>160126902
Where's real life Legion and House?

>>160127669
It depends if Marcus could get them some miniguns or missile launchers.

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how do i look /fog/?

>>160130824
like someone who is going to die in the mojave desert of a heatstroke

>>160130824
>gun
Nice
>armor
Bit too much going on; it was reduced, it'd be great. I love those boots.
>helmet
intothetrashitgoes

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>>160130934
>Not having a couple hundred ice cold nuka colas in your inventory to prevent that

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>>160131056
how about now?

>>160132540
>the lobotomite returns!

>>160132540
The outfit is top notch. Still not keen on the helmet though. I think that's just me though.
It would like pretty nice if you nifscope a cowboy hat or something onto it for that space western look

What are these items from by the way?

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>>160133568
see
>>160104748

>>160128146
It's becoming more legit every day desu.

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>>160138084
>started by Shervin Pishevar
>a poo in loo
>aradesh was a poo in loo

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>>160128570
>Legion
Muslims
>Mr house
The big D himself!

>>160140981
But then the NCR would be allied with the Legion.
You're analogy doesn't work.

>>160141132
Well they're the only group that I can think of that actually act like the legion so I don't know

>>160141656
Legion are neo nazis

>>160141870
Eh that doesn't fit as well as Muslims

Please tell me settlements won't be in 5. Please.

>>160142041
>160142041
>please tell me the feature where you help rebuild humanity wont be in the next game, despite the fact Fallout has always been about humanity rebuilding, and even people like Avellone have said its a good idea

>>160140981
Donald is, at best, House's brother.

You know, the crazy useless failure that inherited (stole) their rich dad's money from his smarter sibling(s).

>>160128570
>>160141656
>believes the democratic institutions have become too bloated and self-serving to survive
>insists he is the only man that can fix it
>plans to seize control by cultivating a legion of loyal followers, destroying all those in his path
>ultimate goal is something in-between the two extremes, but only after dismantling the existing powers
>really just woke up one day and said "i could do that" without actually understanding the work, and succeeded almost entirely through force of charisma and the incompetence of rivals

I think we know who Caesar is, at least.

>>160142208
>thinking Avellone has any real authority over what Fallout should be
Fuck him. If Avellone had his way every female would Felicia Day and the entire worldspace would be more dead that Fallout 3.

>>160144348
> If Avellone had his way every female would Felicia Day
You are confusing Avellone with SJW champion Josh Sawyer

> and the entire worldspace would be more dead that Fallout 3.
Not really. Avellone said his intent in nuking both the NCr and Legion wasn't to destroy them entire, but shake them up, and he wanted to see stuff like wandering groups of NCR soldiers basically become like Ronin Samurai wandering the land helping people and shit.

>>160145485
>SJW champion Josh Sawyer
Wasn't this a tweet or something concerning a feature in one of the games being "offensive"? I will say that Josh has gone on record defending some of the more controversial choices in FNV, like Cook Cook, so maybe he has to say shit like that to safe face.

>Not really.
Yes really. He generally believes the direction the series made with 2 was a mistake. I'm not taking anything he says seriously anymore, especially now that he is in cahoots with Bethesda.

>>160146548
>He generally believes the direction the series made with 2 was a mistake.
Most Fallout 1 fans consider Fallout 2 a mistake, and think its insane amount of pop-culture references, dumb shit like canon ghosts, talking spore plants, and intelligent radscorpions, and most of New Reno, are a bad direction.

>especially now that he is in cahoots with Bethesda.
Except hes not, hes a freelance writer working on Prey, Divinity 2, and the new Planescape: Torment game, all at the same time.

>>160148535
>Most Fallout 1 fans consider Fallout 2 a mistake, and think its insane amount of pop-culture references, dumb shit like canon ghosts, talking spore plants, and intelligent radscorpions, and most of New Reno, are a bad direction.
That's not was I was referring to, because I agree, all of those items you mentioned are retarded. What Avellone hated was the how much civilization had grown e.g diverted from the post apocalyptic formula. I for one think this is what makes Fallout so great; it's not just another generic apocalyptic world, and 2 and NV demonstrated this. This is why Avellone implemented all the doomsday shit in NV to impede the growth of civilization.

>Except hes not, hes a freelance writer working on Prey, Divinity 2, and the new Planescape: Torment game, all at the same time.
Except he is; he just isn't part of the pay roll yet. Watch this space because if Prey 2 is a success in terms of sales (which, given it's attachment to Betheda's brand, it probably will be), he'll end up joining, or at the very least, write for them a lot more, but remain freelance.

>>160149102
>What Avellone hated was the how much civilization had grown e.g diverted from the post apocalyptic formula.
Except Avellone has no problem with 2, in that regard, because Fallout 2 still had most of the world being largely independent city states.

>Except he is; he just isn't part of the pay roll yet
>HE ASSOCIATED WITH PEOPLE I DONT LIKE AS PART OF HIS JOB SO FUCK HIM!
Literally the most petty fucking thing.

>>160149102
>This is why Avellone implemented all the doomsday shit in NV to impede the growth of civilization.
Actually, the only things Avellone wrote for NV were the companions, and the DLC sans Honest Hearts.

99% of the doomsday shit actually came from Sawyer, and the other writers.

>>160149458
>Except Avellone has no problem with 2, in that regard, because Fallout 2 still had most of the world being largely independent city states.
Except clearly he does otherwise why would he try to nuke the NCR to stop them growing? He went on record saying he doesn't like how big they are now.

And petty fights petty desu. Avellone has been slagging off Obsidian after all.

>>160149458
Lonesome Road has all the doomsday shit in it, but if you can find evidence of the others influencing the nukes and/or tunnelers, or indeed ANYTHING ELSE outside of LR which equates to a doomsday devise, I'll drop this point.

FO3 or NV?

>>160149918
nv baby

>>160149918
3 for exploring
NV for roleplaying

>>160149918
Tale of Two Wastelands, how is this even a question?

>>160149803
> but if you can find evidence of the others influencing the nukes and/or tunnelers, or indeed ANYTHING ELSE outside of LR which equates to a doomsday devise
Have you played vanilla NV?

>People talk about the NCR's water shortages
>People talk about how the NCR is running out of food, and will face mass starvation in a decade
>People talk about how the NCr's govnemnt is corrupt to the point nothing gets done
>People talk about how the NCR's habit of rolling over people and taking their land is causing civil unrest
>People like House and Marcus talk about how Caesar's legion is doomed to fail because people follow Caesar, not his ideals and how Caesar's attempts to try to change mankind can't work
>Sawyer himself has said Caesar has made some of the same mistakes as the real Julis Caesar, such as not establishing a clear line of succession, and how that almost destroyed the empire Caesar built.
>the entire ending argument one uses against Lanius to get him to stand out is pointing out how The Legion can't hold the west, and how attempting to take the NCR will be its downfall.

NPCs all over the game talk about how both sides are fundamentally fucked.

The whole point of "War, war never changes", and the whole point of Fallout, is that civilization CANNOT work, because mankind keeps falling into the same petty struggles over resources which destroy everything.

>>160150394
>People talk about the NCR's water shortages
Water restrictions; it's not running out, they just limit it's distribution.
>People talk about how the NCR is running out of food
Source
>People talk about how the NCr's govnemnt is corrupt to the point nothing gets done
People talks does not equate to reality. You're just speculating.
>People talk about how the NCR's habit of rolling over people and taking their land is causing civil unrest
This is happened before and it's working for them. Same with the Legion. It's not a doomsday device because even if either faction has a mass takeover, all the infrastructure is in place.
>People like House and Marcus talk about how Caesar's legion is doomed to fail
As above.
>Sawyer himself has said Caesar has made some of the same mistakes as the real Julis Caesar
Ditto, and indeed in more relevant what with the Rome analogy.
>the entire ending argument one uses against Lanius to get him to stand out is pointing out how The Legion can't hold the west
Ditto again.

You seem to confusing complete post apocalyptic death as depicted in Fallout 3 with "people shoot each other". There is a clear distinction and you surely must see this.

It's nothing to do with civilization not working, it's that regardless of the situation, civilization will never reach a lasting peace because men and women will keep finding reasons to destroy each other, be it as depicted by old world ideas (NCR) or new ones(Legion).

>>160149918
NV, there isn't even a contest.

>>160151556
Basically your entire argument is
>everything the devs had people say in-game is wrong because!

You have to see the mental gymnastics you are doing.

>Can't continue because every time I try to enter Freeside I get an infinite loading screen

Welp, time for a fresh install.

>>160151763
That's a funny way of providing me with a source for the NCR food thing. I was giving you some leverage there.

>>160152000
This is why you don't download Freeside open.

>>160152279
http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Thomas_Hildern%27s_dialogue

Courier: NCR has a food shortage?

Hildern: Not yet. But our government understands the value of proactive thought. Our studies project an imbalance between production and consumption. Or, for a layman such as yourself - not enough food, too many mouths to feed. Mass starvation. In a decade or so.

>>160152426
Well shit, I've even done this mission before.
But still, it's speculation on the governments part. It's possible that it could happen, but again, the NCR could stumble upon an oasis in the middle of Baja that provides an abundance of food; we just have no idea.

Dropping nukes and the tunnelers are more definitive, that is of course you believe Ulysses. Regardless, you can get the writers intent from it.

>>160152665
>Regardless, you can get the writers intent from it.
Yes, the game's writer made sure there was a lot of doomsaying for both sides.

Which was the point, both the NCR and Legion are faulty pieces of shit, and are going to collapse one way or another.

>>160152851
Which, going back to right at the start of this debate, was Avellone's idea, because he wrote Lonesome Road. Everything you've noted is speculation. Giving the player direct access to dropping nukes is not speculation.

Although, to be fair, it could all be bullshit as we have no idea what the canon ending for FNV is.

Also glad to see we are keeping the general alive.

>>160153039
Except it wasn't his idea becuase, again, he didn't write shit in the base game besides the companions, and the base game was written before the DLC.

Avellone just expanded on those ideas.

>>160153109
Again if you can provide proof that Sawyer, Gonzales or anyone else wrote specifically the tunnelers and/or nuking the NCR/Legion, I'll believe you.

>>160149918
totw senpai

>>160153364
Are you intentionally being disingenuous about what i said, or are you just stupid?

>>160153765
I wasn't referring to the base game.
I only said "anything else outside of LR" because I was confident that there wasn't anything on par with nukes and tunnelers, and evidently, I was right because you've provided speculation.
The only times I did refer to the base game was because you brought it up here. >>160150394
I was specifically referring to two points mentioned in the DLC Lonesome Road, of which Chris Avellone served as it's main writer. I know full well he wrote for DM and OWB, but I was never referring to them either. You've moved the goal posts so many times you've constructed your own narrative.

Now if you'd humor me because clearly to you I'm talking out of my ass here, provide evidence in specifically Lonesome Road (or better yet, the two points in question) of which writers other that Avellone were affiliated with the two doomsday devices I alluded to.

Incidentally the captcha was a sign saying "ave" which made me smile.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11647880

>>160155530
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11647880
None. My fucking courier named Gordon fucking Freeman you fuck face mcgee.

>>160102232
>can't use explosives to get through doors and locks anyway
why even tease that

>>160145485
>Ron
>implying Fenstermaker didn't wrote her

No if Avellone had his way, they're all psychotic to a degree. Be it Ravel, Kreia or fucking Kaelyn

>>160143423
Trump is what Caesar would have been if he'd worked within the NCR's systems to build his Legion, instead of fucking off across the country.

>>160150394
>>Sawyer himself has said Caesar has made some of the same mistakes as the real Julis Caesar, such as not establishing a clear line of succession, and how that almost destroyed the empire Caesar built.
I never understood this - surely the Son of Mars would have a fucking child as soon as possible.

I kind of like how the War Never Changes motto has been adapted in different ways as the factions has built up over time - in Fallout 1 people were paying for the largest act of war in human history; in Fallout 2 elements like xenophobia and the "us vs them" mentality had re-emerged in the greater social conscious; in New Vegas the two civilised nations had reverted to war again.

If Obsidian ever got the chance to end the Fallout franchise, I honestly think it would be totally thematically appropriate to re-nuke everything. Doing it halfway through the series is just maintaining the status quo, though

>>160088350
They were both me; I cancelled the post to edit it a bit and then resubmitted but obviously they both went through.

Somehow it's only (You)'d me for one

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Fucking Howdy I guess

>>160166801
It's slow at these times.
Here is hoping it's not slow enough to kill the general.

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>>160047967
Same guy here are some pics

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>>160170029

>>160170147
>>160170029
ave maria

>>160170029
>>160170147
I can't remember it ever looking this bad. Have I been spoiled by graphics mods?

>>160170446
>>160170147
>>160170029
this is definitely a bug, they aren't THIS low res in vanilla

>>160149918
NV.

I will say there is a certain magic to the exploration of the desolate wasteland in 3 that I hold in high regard. I think ultimately the Mojave Desert ends up being the more interesting setting as a result of great writing. I also think that Freeside/The Strip/North/South Vegas is a great epicenter, I haven't played 3 in 6 years but I don't remember there being a focal area of that map that was as dense and interesting as that one.

Outside of that epicenter NV falls short in certain areas, sadly. I think if Obsidian had more resources and time to create their own unique locations instead of reusing assets from 3 it would have easily been the better map. Then again NV isn't really built around these setpiece story keypoints, whereas with 3, the quest take you on this ride through big important locations, NV is more subtle and the focus is less about dragging you through and more about demanding your participation in a setting to learn about it and get involved that way rather than going "wooah, a city on a big ship, alright lets talk to the guy that sends me on my way to the next point of interest"

I like the Wasteland a lot though.

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>>160170495
>I don't remember there being a focal area of that map that was as dense and interesting as that one.
The DC city itself, but it's more dense yes, but no where near as interesting. Too many metro stations and bullshit, conveniently placed bits of rubble.

>mfw The Pitt will never be the Fallout spinoff it was destined to be and instead it was a lackluster DLC

>>160170876
>NCRfags are literal neckbeards

not surprising

>>160161706
>Legion member
>interested in women

>>160170928
Legionfags are both neckbeards and furfags so could be worse off.

>>160171294
>>160170928
>>160170876
>implying not all hardcore NV fans aren't at least a little neckbeard

>>160171440
>he's not a part of the clean shaven master race

>>160171440
All hardcore Fallout fans in general to be fair.

And no, obviously F4 normies don't count as hardcore.

>>160171530
>being a girl

>>160172678
>Fallout will never get level action repeater rifles right again
>no more sci fi western aesthetics

Unless Westworld gets a game adaption, I think that whole genre might be dead in the water.

>>160173026
What a rotten way to die.

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>mfw watching the video of Sawyer streaming New Vegas yesterday
So chill, so informative, so fun.